22 April, 2024

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Rise & Fall Of Nationalism In North & South

By Jehan Perera

Jehan Perera

The election of Sivagnanam Shritharan as president of the ITAK has the potential to bring Tamil nationalism to the fore again. The ITAK is the largest Tamil political party and the mainstay of the now fragmented TNA which was an alliance of political parties that came into existence during the latter phase of the LTTE period at their instance, and continued thereafter. However, the ITAK’s new president did not win his election overwhelmingly. His rival who had played a much bigger role in mainstream national politics obtained close to 43 percent of the vote. This reflects the realization within the Tamil community that the path of dialogue and accommodation is not to be ruled out. The total military defeat of the LTTE, which followed their path of intransigence and a rigid adherence to the goal of a separate Tamil state, proved to be very costly and not a course that many would wish to follow again.

The newly elected ITAK leader’s initial pronouncements suggest a hardline stand based on Tamil nationalism. Tamil nationalism, which precedes the LTTE and continues after its demise, does not necessarily entail a separate state, but is compatible with federalism and other variants of power sharing also. Mr Shritharan’s first visit after winning the leadership contest was to an LTTE cemetery where he paid his respects to the fallen fighters. In an interview soon thereafter, he recognized that “There may be some of us who have views or misunderstandings against the LTTE. However, most of our General Assembly members, more or less 184 people have voted for me. This means they support my ideology. In other words, the major strength of the party is Tamil nationalism. They have clearly stated that it must begin from the graves of the late Eelam national liberation fighters.”

During the course of his post-election speeches, Mr Shritharan has framed his vision of the future in terms of federalism and the merger of the Northern and Eastern provinces and taken the position that the 13th Amendment is not adequate to meet the Tamil aspirations. Despite the potential that these sentiments have for provoking confrontation with the Sinhalese majority, the ITAK leader’s vision would have traction within the Tamil polity. There is a strong sense of being oppressed and neglected by the Sri Lankan state and by its political leaders, including the present leadership. President Ranil Wickremesinghe’s unexpected ascension to power in the aftermath of the Aragalaya protest movement gave rise to the hope of change. As a political leader who had never espoused racialism in politics, the president’s bold promise to settle the ethnic conflict through a political solution in Sri Lanka’s 75th year of Independence (which comes to a close this week) was viewed positively. At a minimum, the president’s proposal that the 13th Amendment could be implemented in full measure seemed sincere.

Governance Stakeholders 

The 13th Amendment represents the furthest that the Sri Lankan state has gone in devolving powers to the provinces. It came into being, less because the Sri Lankan government leaders believed in it, than due to severe Indian pressure on the government at that time. The provincial council system has never reached its full potential unlike in India, where this same system albeit on a much larger scale has blossomed to make India one of the great economic powers in the world in which there is unity in diversity. There is a common misunderstanding that the 13th Amendment needs to be justified on the basis of economic efficiency. Therefore, it is advocated that power should be decentralized to front line government officials within the central government, or that it should be decentralized to only small local government authorities, such as the pradeshiya sabhas, urban councils and municipalities. However, the bid to get rid of the provincial council system on the grounds of economic inefficiency is invalid.

Retired government official and former secretary to the president and defense secretary, Austin Fernando, has written, “In 2023, the total recurrent expenditure requirement for all PCs (provincial councils) was Rs. 485.25 billion and Rs. 391.75 billion was provided. The total capital expenditure requirement was Rs. 167 billion and Rs. 37 billion was provided. It is nonsensical to think that a supply of 22.1% of the total capital expenditure requirements of provincial councils would make LAs (local authorities) developmentally efficient and effective, even after conversion, as proposed.” This highlights the basic reason why power needs to be devolved in Sri Lanka. Without the devolution of power, the ethnic and religious minorities are at the mercy of the ethnic majority in all parts of the country. If there is devolution of power which includes financial devolution, the Tamil and Muslim minorities will have power in decision making in the areas in which they are a majority. They too will become stakeholders in the governance of the country.

An unfortunate feature of the present time is that the entire provincial council system has been put on hold for the past five or more years. Quite apart from full implementation of the 13th Amendment, which has never been done in violation of the constitution, the 13th Amendment is not being implemented at all today except in form. The 13th Amendment has not been operational through provincial councils as provincial elections have been postponed. This has been for narrow and partisan political interests that have nothing to do with the devolution of power to the ethnic and religious minorities. In 2018, when the then government felt itself to be electorally vulnerable, they simply decided not hold any election at all that would have exposed their weakness in terms of retaining a democratic mandate from the people. A similar situation continues to exist even at the present time and the government has gone a step further in also cancelling the local government elections indefinitely.

Hopeful Signs

It is not surprising that under these circumstances that newly elected ITAK leader would not wish to continue with the 13th Amendment but has instead called for a federal solution. However, the rise of Tamil nationalism is not only due to the failure of the present government to hold the provincial council elections. It is also due to the failure of the government to address the highly emotive issues of missing persons, persons arrested under the anti-human rights Prevention of Terrorism Act (PTA) and take away as well as non-return of land belonging to the Tamil people. There is also the failure of the state to protect the rights of the Tamil people to the land they have traditionally cultivated in the east. Despite the president having made public and private assurances regarding the cattle farmers at Mylathamadu-Mathavanai and return of land to their rightful owners, nothing has happened. Nothing happens even when the judiciary, including Magistrates Court and Court of Appeal makes rulings that the Sinhala farmers should return to their original places.

It is in this bleak situation that the challenges to peace and reconciliation emerge that requires experienced and wise political leaderships to deal with them. There are indeed signs of hope. One is the greater awareness among politically active sections of the population in the Sinhalese polity that nationalism is used to win votes and thereby elections regardless of the cost to the country and to its people. It was not a coincidence that Sri Lanka’s international economic bankruptcy occurred during the period of rule of one of the country’s most nationalistic set of government leaders. The university students and youth who participated in the Aragalaya protest movement seemed to understand this, as their slogans made it clear that they would not be fooled once again. There are encouraging signs that narrow ethnic based nationalism is on the decline in the Sinhalese majority parts of the country over the past two years since the economic decline commenced.

Today the country needs a movement espousing a system change as articulated by the Aragalaya protest movement. People are increasingly able to see the inter connection between ethnic conflict, militarization, impunity, corruption and economic and social collapse. This growing sentiment has given rise to support for the peace movement within the influential Buddhist clergy. The initiative taken by a group of leading Buddhist monks with a section of the Tamil Diaspora has given rise to the Himalaya Declaration that they have co-authored together. Two of the monks involved in this initiative, Ven Prof Pallekanda Ratanasara and Ven Dr Madampagama Assaji were recently felicitated on obtaining leadership positions in the International Buddhist Confederation in New Delhi. In their speeches they affirmed that the Buddhist Mahanayakes were supportive of their initiative. The openings to peace and reconciliation that have emerged would be need to be observed by non-racist political leaders who will unite the country to abolish corruption and abuse of power that only benefits a few and take the country in the direction of the wellbeing of all.

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    … a rigid adherence to the goal.
    Jehan, The rigidity you are pointing out has timelines. It is unfair to mention the rigidity of LTTE without even mention of the rigidity of succeeding Government(s)., – a of being oppressed and neglected by the Sri Lankan state.
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    ‘The 13th Amendment represents the furthest that the Sri Lankan state has gone in devolving powers to the provinces’.
    You must be joking.
    Tell me, oh, tell me, when did the Sri Lankan state devolve powers to the provinces?
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    You say that the entire provincial council system has been put on hold for the past five or more years. Incorrect. Shelved, not put on hold!
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    (T)he inter connection between ethnic conflict, militarization, impunity, corruption and economic and social collapse is yet to strike a chord with the ruling class. Will it ever ..?

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    TAMIL NATIONALISM IS DEAD AND BURIED IN MULLIVAIKAL ON 17TH MAY 2019.THIS MAN SRITHARAN(CARDBOARD PRABAKARN)HIM SELF KNOWS VERY WELL ABOUT THE REAL SITUATION IN NORTH-EAST.ALMOST ALL TAMIL POLITICAL LEADERS USE THE WORD TAMIL NATIONALISM AS A VOTE CATCHING TOOL.THERE IS ALWAYS A BIG NUMBER OF TAMILS GATHER AT MAAVEERAR DAY BUT CAN ANY LEADER WILL BE ABLE BRING TOGETHER AT LEAST TEN THOUSAND PEOPLE FOR A PROTEST RALLY AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT.ALL LEADERS HAVE A BUNCH OF CANDLE HOLDERS WHO ARE BEHIND THEM IN ORDER TO GET CHANCE FOR NOMINATIONS AT THE FUTURE LOCAL AND PROVINCIAL ELECTIONS.THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 2019 AND 2023.CURRENT YOU TUBE WHATS-UP AND OTHER SOCIAL MEDIAS HAVE COMPLETELY HAVE CHANGED THE LIFE STYLE AND THINKING OF TAMIL YOUTHS.UNTIL WE HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT SRITHARAN IS GOING TO OFFER TO MEET THE GOAL OF SO CALLED TAMIL NATIONALISM ?

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      If world war breaks out India will occupy Srilanka. At present India has to go along with US and will not act against Srilanka, who are ready to concede some parts of the country to India. At a recent meeting with TNA members, Indian High commissioner told them, we can only advise Srilanka to implement 13th amendment in full, but we cannot force them. This is the reality Tamils should accept, and wait patiently for new world order to emerge after the war.

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        “If world war breaks out India will occupy Srilanka.”

        India cannot even take Kashmir from Pakistan.

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          Lester – stuff that some people’s wet dreams are made! But we must agree patience is a good virtue to practice, especially for a doctor. ;)

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          Once the order is broken, even the survival of Pakistan will be a very big question.

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            Fairmindedone – Is there any order to be broken? All I see is disorder in every sense of the word! All around the world.

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          Lester

          “India cannot even take Kashmir from Pakistan.”

          Does Hindia want to rule Pakistan Occupied Kashmir?
          Please listen to “We want to join India’: PoK residents clamour after FIR against Shia cleric”.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSOYk5WYX9o

          ““Residents of PoK ready to join India”, says PoK activist after economic crisis worsens in Pakistan”
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfL9lyyOENo

          You lankies didn’t have the b***s to fight Hindia or LTTE. It was Hindia which helped Vellupillai to win the war for Rajapaksas.
          You can only talk about Hindia only when you are independent of Hindians, who fed you, bank rolled you, provided medicine oil, …….. .

          Go beg Hindia and other countries …… then …. send your brave nationalists, Weerawansa, Weerasekera …. to Hambantota harbour and ask them to beg every Chinese ships for food, …. etc

          Hindians don’t have to occupy this island. As far as they are concerned Sri Lanka is the Sinhala State of Hindia, North East is part of Tamil Nadu. Keep this in mind.

          Until the state, saffronistas and crooked politicians start treating the people well every Tom, Dick and Harry will continue to grope your women folks.
          Forget Hindia make sure you get the state and crooks to treat people well.

          Hindia’s problems/enimies are Hindia’s neither Dr. Gnana Sankaralingam’s nor yours.

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            Native,

            “You lankies didn’t have the b***s to fight Hindia or LTTE.”

            So you admit Sinhala-Buddhists didn’t commit genocide. Since Hindians were the ones doing the fighting. Kindly inform your friend Sooka and the rest of the HR champions at the UN. After Israel kills another 150 of their workers, I have no doubt they will start an investigation of 2009 Sri Lanka, 1983 Sri Lanka, 1956 Sri Lanka, 1856 Sri Lanka, 1656, etc.

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        –“If world war breaks out India will occupy Srilanka.”–
        Before that, America will balkanize India. India knows that. The reason why India is still in one piece is because of Britain. Britain “created” India. India was Britain’s Jewel in the Crown.
        /
        Instead stealing Sinhala County, why don’t you Tamils return to your Tamil Nadu, separate the state from the rest of India and form Tamil Nadu sovereign state???????? Are you scared of North India rulers?

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          tony

          the north was not sinhala country.The jaffna kingdom was there before the portueguese colinized it.So the tamils need not go back to tamilnadu.They have to come to some compromise wth the sinhalese.Instead of asking for the tamil country back they can ask the sinhalese to join the eastern tamil majority areas to the north and give a quasi federal state like tamilnadu just like the way the the north indian aryans gave the south indian dravidians so that india will be one country,not two.

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          Tony

          “Before that, America will balkanize India.”

          It can only be done by Hindians not by Americans.
          Remember on 26 March 1971, Pakistan paid the price for American misadventure in South Asia.

          ” Britain “created” India.”

          Hindutva is resolved to create – Akhand Bharat.

          Amit Shah’s call for expansion of Hindi as “the only language that can unite the whole country”, …. he meant including the island Sri Lanka.

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          You are right. Britain created India and Pakistan.
          And Britain created Sri Lanka as well.
          It is good to learn the history of Sri Lanka as well on top of that of India. It will be a surprise to learn that a Tamil kingdom existed and competed with other kingdoms and Kotte kingdom was established by a Tamil from Kanchipuram in Tamilnadu and Tamil was one the court language there and Tamil kings fought against Chinese ( Zheng He) and Portuguese invaders.

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        Starts with if war breaks ????????? and ends by stating , wait patient. For what, war to begin or end ??????. Is 30 years of ours not enough ????, Even if that happens what is the chance of a new world order, and how that order may look like ????

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          “Is 30 years of ours not enough ???”
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          Probabbly not – for some blood thirsty psychopathic war mongers.

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            Ruchira

            “Probabbly not – for some blood thirsty psychopathic war mongers.”

            Probably true, they are still alive and kicking either retired from police/armed forces or politics or still serving in the armed forces, they have had wide experience in 1971 and between 1987 and 1991.

            Two of them were bestowed Honorary Doctorates.

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              Native – I’m sure you are right. There are everywhere.

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                *They are everywhere.

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        This Dr is sick

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          Glad that atleast some people realise…

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          Correct term should be D!CK not sick. His name itself says it. Sankara – lingam. In Sinhalese sankara means uncultured or uncivilized. Lingam I suppose means genitals being a man it I suppose refers to his d!ck. So in essence these are the thoughts of a person with an uncivilized d!ck.

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            R,
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            How dare you attack some because you cannot digest their names? How primitive do you have to be?
            If you can’t respect their thoughts, leave it alone. People are different. They must have their own logic for that.
            You’re dragging us into a kindergarten here. why ?
            Kamal Gunaratne (guna means good traits, ratna means gem) is not a good man, but he is called like that… why should we worry about his naming?
            Mahinda Rajapaksa (actually he is Mahendra Percy Rajapaksa) is the mastermind of recent mega-crimes but why does no one criticize the misuse of his name?
            :
            No one, including you, can oppose your name. It was left by your own parents. So, one should not attack anyone by name. Time

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            SA
            WW3 has been on as an undeclared war in the name of the Cold War and other proxy wars of the US for a long time.
            Declaration has its risks and the US is not yet ready even to directly confront Iran. (It has lost much of its military initiative somehow.)
            What goes on now in Palestine and what happened in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya etc. are no less grave than the horrors of WWII.

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              SJ
              I entirely agree with you.
              The relentless efforts to create military conflicts around the world are to promote the continuation of the Western hegemony.

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                With the IT revolution, the animal nature of human beings has worsend and they prefer wars over a peaceful environment.

                Countries’ economies were affected more by the Russia-Ukraine war than by the COVID pandemic.
                However, it has affected Sri Lanka more because our predestined-corrupted leaders like Mahendra Rajapaksa and his politics are draining the nation’s funds to the core.
                Now the demos are increasing and the divisions are widening day by day. Media fraudsters (HIRU AND DERANA PVT TV channels) make their money from dead bodies and scandals.

                This is why some leaders take pro-war principles rather than peaceful solutions. In srilanken context, I dont see any leader in sight be capable of handling issues for the benefit of all races. We are very much confused at this stage.
                .
                The IT revolution is good for advanced people, but it is like giving barber knives to uncivilized leaders.
                With the war of of Russia-Ukraine, the economic relations between the countries of Europe were completely affected. Daily necessities (food items and beverages) in European countries today are 30-300% higher than they were before the war.

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            Fear mongering always work.

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              Ruchira

              Not only did it splendidly work in the past but also would work in the future, look how many elections had been won by just fear mongering, the last one was on 18 November 2019.

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                Native – I do agree. Trying to do the same by curtailing people’s freedoms isn’t any better either.

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                  R,
                  .
                  Some sort of ethical guidelines deem necessary to control cyber 🤔 crimes, medi crimes and the like in today s srilanka.
                  .Media House owners are the wealthiest in this hell- like country as of today. Look at Derana TV channel owner and the other, Hiru TV, that earn millions by spreading but lies. All because they are both partial to Medamulana beasts. Don’t u think so? 🤔

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                    LM – Professional ethics are self imposed not state imposed.
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                    And when do you think criminals were deterred by ethics!?
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                    Do you even understand what you speak about?
                    .
                    Here’s some material that may educational to you.
                    .
                    How it affects freedom of expression in many disciplines by way of giving the state the authority to arbitrarily determine what is truth and criminalizing what is false as deemed by the state!
                    .
                    https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/southasia/2023/11/13/true-or-false-history-under-threat-in-sri-lanka/
                    .

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                      Ruchira,
                      “Do you even understand what you speak about?”
                      Thanks for your message above.
                      The truth is that you don’t always have the slightest idea what you’re trying to say. Thanks again for belittling me and my thoughts.

                      It’s becoming clear to most of us that your ideas are like “frogs in a well” minded.
                      . This is true. I’ll let all the other commenters decide that. Even if your information is lacking, your head is swollen. I know it practically among the Sinhalese people. My brother has been locked up in Sri Lanka for all his life, and he won’t let him see the facts. This is a real big issue in Sri Lankan society which needs to change with a paradigm shift.
                      .
                      Many commenters do not like the way you represent the Sinhalese nation to be completely opposed to federalism. I have supported the Feds for the last 30 years knowing its pragmatic nature.

                      I compare the media portrayals of developed countries and our hell again and again.
                      An old codger once compared it to “VOX news” from the US.
                      But what is important is the percentage wise, what is happening in Sri Lankan media is very much dominated by their hearsays-like news. They make breaking news headlines for unsubstantiated news, which again blurs the level of mainstream media news and social media. As you know, there are no borders and boundaries on YOUTUBERs by its very nature.

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                  Ruchira,
                  Do we actually have freedom of expression anyway? Are there not many things we cannot discuss publicly , even without this OSA?

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                    OC,
                    There is no point in wasting time with Ruchira.
                    :
                    Please see what many commenters have said about his responses. I think he lacks focus on what is being questioned.

                    Btw, I feel our SINHALA MAN has tremendously developed his thoughts lately. This is a fantastic news for me.
                    We should celebrate it soon. My chocolate didn’t work, but someone must have given him better chocolate. I’m happy for him, though, because he earns “thumbs up.” The poor (poor in the sense, he is honestly sacrificing but more naive) man has made sacrifices for a better Sri Lanka, but knowing the situation in Sri Lanka the kitten is trying to survive but is thrown into a pond full of poisonous reptiles.
                    .
                    Bravooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

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                    Old codger – So your suggestion is since we do not have full freedom in anycase, we should give up all freedoms?

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                  Ruchira

                  “Trying to do the same by curtailing people’s freedoms isn’t any better either.”

                  Here is something that you may find fitting to what we have experienced:

                  “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” – known as Einstein Insanity.

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        India can do lots of things other than advise. Just like the way the helped the Chingkalla Sri Lankan State to commit genocide and war crimes on the Thamizh in May 2009 and then shielded them, Lots of anti Thamizh. in Delhi making decision with regards to Sri Lanka and this is reflected in what is happening. Especially the Malayali Nairs who have always been anti Thamizh. India lost a golden opportunity to influence Sri Lankan policy due to this inbuilt anti Thmizh bias and China and others have now crept in. The cunning Chingkalla leader have, especially the Rajapuusies and even the current protégée have taken India for a ride and it serves them right. You must be really high in something to post such rubbish. I am part Menon myself. This is from a Malayali about the Nairs and the anti Thamizh agenda.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzcK_xNrJyk

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        “If world war breaks out India will occupy Srilanka.”
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        And some still asks why we have a big military and why they are still occupying the north and east?

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          Mr. RUCHIRA,
          So you are thinking that military is there to protect from India? It is worth spend 1/3 of budget on 300,000 idle sinhalabuddhists instead of education and health? You think this army without proper armor and no aircover is protect us from India? Which planet you live dear?
          You guys already forgot who gave u free food and fuel when your brave gota fuk up the country? Nobody more ungrateful than sinhalabuddists.

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            notohypocrisy –
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            “So you are thinking that military is there to protect from India?” – I didn’t say anything like that.
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            I have always paid for my food and fuel and paid my taxes with moneys earned decently and legitimately.
            .
            Got nothing to be ashamed of or anyone to be grateful for.
            .
            If India gave anyone free food and fuel they better sort it out with the person/s they gave it for.
            .
            As far as I know they offered a credit line with conditions, cashing in on the situation.
            .
            Gota is not mine. Better blame those who thought he could be a President and lead a country and erected him as one.

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              mr. Ruchire,
              “As far as I know they offered a credit line with conditions, cashing in on the situation.”
              That was After they sent rice free from tamilnadu. Maybe you forget things you don’t like to know, dear?
              Even you paid with your money, there is nothing to buy, you can’t pay for it.
              India gave you when nobody else gave.At least learn to say thank you for helping.

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                Mr ruchire,
                If you don’t believe tamilnadu sent food relief, read this:
                https://frontline.thehindu.com/the-nation/tamil-nadu-sends-the-first-consignment-of-food-medicine-and-other-relief-aid-to-sri-lanka/article65444959.ece
                Did srilanka sent food aid to tamilnadu when tamilnadu was having famine??

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                  nth
                  “when tamilnadu was having famine”
                  I have heard of the Bengal famine but when was Tamilnadu famine?

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                    Mr.SJ,
                    I am sorry .I mean India.
                    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Starved_child.jpg

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                      Sorry,
                      I think he means India

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                      OC
                      Even then, it was all under British rule. the last one after a long gap was the Bengal famine of 1943.
                      There were famine threats in the 1980-90s.

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                    nth
                    I found this eventually:
                    “The Great Famine of 1876–78, also known as the Southern India Famine of 1876–78 and the Madras Famines of 1877, resulted from the dearth of monsoons in 1876–78. “
                    I doubt if that is what you had in mind.
                    Even if it is, there was no Sri Lanka government at the time and it was British rule in both regions

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                    There was a famine in TN

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_Nadu_famine_(1891)#:~:text=The%20Tamil%20Nadu%20famine%20of,entire%20region%20during%20this%20period.

                    What was the famine of Tamil Nadu?
                    The excess mortality in the famine has been estimated in a range whose low end is 5.6 million human fatalities, high end 9.6 million fatalities, and a careful modern demographic estimate 8.2 million fatalities. The famine is also known as the Southern India famine of 1876–1878 and the Madras famine of 1877.

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                Notohypocrisy – I am very familiar with marketing tactics. Buy 2 and get 1 for free. A free kid’s toy with every Happy Meal at McDonald’s etc etc. As I said I paid for my food and fuel. Period. I don’t owe anyone anything. Not even thanks.

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                  “don’t owe anyone anything. Not even thanks.”
                  Good, you have no answer and avoiding the point.

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                    NTH – What point am I trying to avoid? I don’t owe anything, least of all any gratitude, to India – that’s the point.

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              mr. Ruchira,
              ““If world war breaks out India will occupy Srilanka.”
              .And some still asks why we have a big military and why they are still occupying the north and east?”
              YOU tell what the above means, if not that the army is in NE to defend against Indian invasions?

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                NTH –
                .
                (1) Army is a part of a country’s security apparatus maintained to counter any threat that may occur to the state and its people.
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                (2) The statement that alludes India may occupy Sri Lanka indicates there are threats that warrant maintaining a heightened level of security and a military to match.
                .

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                  MR. ruchire,
                  I told before that the SL army has no aircover n no armour. What is the point of keeping it in North? You think Indian planners are stupid to invade thru Jafna when they can parachute in Colombo. Get real, man, the army is there to give job to sinhalabuddhist kollas.

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                    NH,
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                    I recently spoke to a few Sri Lankan Tamil friends who no longer refer to the military forces in the war-torn north as their disadvantage. Their families are in Sri Lanka, the people I spoke to are in Europe. Many of them confessed that the LTTE was doing more harm to their people than the Sinhalese and the government of the day.
                    I think this should be reliable information. North, East and Uva are currently the poorest states in the country. Only if people come together can their youth be allowed to dawn in a progressive era.
                    .
                    I am always for a federal solution, but if some fierce forces are hiding something else behind it, I must say, it is better for us peaceful people to have a unitary state than to let any of us divide the little island. Devolution of power should mean nothing but for the benefit of all communities to develop their regions properly. If federalism can work for Germany, Switzerland and many countries of the world in the last 5-6 decades, why can’t it be a solution for Sri Lanka?
                    .
                    . Whether the Sri Lankan diaspora is Sinhalese, Tamil or Muslim, everyone should equally help the motherland.

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                      Dear leelagemalli,
                      ‘Many of them confessed that the LTTE was doing more harm to their people than the Sinhalese and the government of the day’.
                      This is what your friends said. You think that that should be reliable information.
                      .
                      If you truly believed ‘your friends’, I credit them for being so convincing!

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                      N,
                      I hope you are moderate, please let us know what you think. The basic foundation of LTTE worked well but later it turned into a TOTALLY a barbaric organization and did much more harm to their own community. This is what I am forced to think as of today. I am a thoughtful person and i dont allow others to manipulate me easily.
                      :
                      I knew that many Tamil comrades in Europe (Germany and Switzerland) were against the Tigers. In the mid-90s, local fundraisers came to their doorsteps for their cash contributions, and many of them hid. They were not facing those money collectors happily. It was a headache to them.

                      They were not my friends but friendly Sri Lankan Tamils. Some of them and their second generation are better today. Among them I know some engineers and medical doctors who know my clients (German and English).

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                      Dear leelagemalli,
                      Further comments is closed under your, ‘I hope you are moderate’, hence I opt to respond here, because you deserve a response.
                      I'[ll be brief:
                      As you had observed, ‘The basic foundation of LTTE worked well but later … ‘.
                      Yes, It was infiltrated deep. VP lost his moral compass!

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                  Do you even understand what I am saying?
                  .
                  The notion that India may occupy Sri Lanka comes from Sri Lankan Tamils that have waged war with the government of Sri Lanka for thirty years for a seperate state in the NORTH and East in the country where they are the majority. It has got nothing to do with anyone parachuting anywhere.

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                    Mr ruchire,
                    I think u are the one not understanding, or avoid the point.
                    You think that India will attack SL, simply because Dr. GS says.
                    Even if it does, you think the army can fight wit no proper weapon??
                    So, why is it there in NP for?? To comit suicide??

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                      NTH,
                      .
                      Unfortunately; Some sections of our SL society tends to fall for any convenient tricks.
                      Don’t you know how a former gas station worker became the President of Sri Lanka and dragged the nation into the abyss?
                      Mlechcha’s profile was inflated by the media to make him the “Führer” of the nation. However, now JVP-NPP itself is holding the same stupid people. Sri Lanka is full of media criminals

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                      NTH – I think you need to re-read what I have already mentioned.
                      .
                      Committing suicide was what LTTE prescribed for their cadres to do upon getting captured. SL Army has got nothing to do with it.
                      .
                      What is it that I avoid and don’t understand?

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                    R
                    They did not wage war simply on India’s prompting.
                    What induced them was oppression. Whether they took the right line is a separate matter.
                    In fact, the LTTE defied India to wage its war from 1987 to its very end in 2009.

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                      SJ – I never claimed the LTTE was solely prompted by India. But Indian intelligence have accepted they fuelled the separatist agenda in Sri Lanka.

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          Ruchira

          “And some still asks why we have a big military and why they are still occupying the north and east?”

          Why is the Military occupying rest of the island?

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            Native – Probabbly because you could not hang in mid air!?

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            NV,
            .
            even after 75 years since WW2 is over, why foreign troops are stationed in Germany and Okinawa ?
            Is that not the same reason that lanken millitary has to be stationed in the north.?

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        Dr. G.S.
        I think less than 10% of Tamil speaking people scattered across the island desire any form of autonomy..

        Soma

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          soma

          “I think less than 10% of Tamil speaking people scattered across the island desire any form of autonomy..”

          We know you lot are experts on ballot rigging, creative accounting, ….. auditing, …. money laundering, Jury/Judges nobbling, …… To tell you the truth I have no idea how you rig opinion/opinion polls or manufacture consent.

          Therefore we would like to see how you arrived at 10% Tamil Speaking people.

          Just forget the Tamil Speaking people for a minute (they are numerically minority anyway) have you worked out what % of Sinhala Speaking people desire one country, one region, one language, one religion, one law, One People, One State, One Leader, ……

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            NV
            Naturally you wish to know how I arrived at this 10%.
            .
            Some time back on this column I proposed holding a referendum among the Tamil speaking people on the question of autonomy. I couldn’t believe the response I received – I can’t for my life! WITHOUT EXCEPTION every Tamil comenter vehemently protested calling me all kinds of names. I could virtually feel their heart beat. That collective fear made me conclude that these guys KNOW in their heart of hearts that my Tamil speaking brothers would choose to say NO in one voice. Then I calculated the percentage of upper caste political elite in Jaffna which led me to this number.
            .
            Cheers
            .
            Soma

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          Soma,

          ” 10% of Tamil speaking people scattered across the island” You are saying Tamil genocide is going on. Why the percentage went down? What happened to their land?

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        dr.gnana

        world war 3 will not happen.The economies of the world are too interconnected now than during the advent of world war 2.leaders willthink twice before starting that.

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          “world war 3 will not happen”
          Then, what is happening now?

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            sj
            russia vs ukraine and israel vs hamas is not world war 3.

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        DrGS, your thoughts sound to be paranoic so as that of Wiggies.
        .
        why should India occupy srilanka ? To balance Tamil Nadu ? Is that not a big headache to them ?
        India is a powerful country to poor srilanka but over 70% or more of india are under poverty levels. That is more than the double the size of entire europe (like 800 millionss of people).
        .
        SRILANKA (just 22 millions) is overly robbed out by Rajapakshes and it stays like its airline not being able to sell out.

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      “CURRENT YOU TUBE WHATS-UP AND OTHER SOCIAL MEDIAS HAVE COMPLETELY HAVE CHANGED THE LIFE STYLE AND THINKING OF TAMIL YOUTHS.”

      Very good point. Who is going to wear a suicide belt after enjoying Taylor Swift? People are much more materialistic and have a broader global sense than in the 1980’s and 1990’s.

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        Ha ha another gem! Yups its time for the Tamil boys to become men. Chase few girls. Get laid. Have some fun. Live life. And finally realise there’s more to life than guns, bombs and separate states. Girls not guns. Bimbos not bombs.

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        “CURRENT YOU TUBE WHATS-UP AND OTHER SOCIAL MEDIAS HAVE COMPLETELY HAVE CHANGED THE LIFE STYLE AND THINKING OF TAMIL YOUTHS.”
        Only them?
        What about the patriotic lot?

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          “Only them?
          What about the patriotic lot?”
          .
          Sri Lankan Taylor Swift aka Iraj is working on them.
          😏

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            R
            Youth attitudes began to change a lot earlier than we like to believe.

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              SJ – have they changed for the better?

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                Better and worse are subjective matters.
                For the older generation, probably for worse.

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                  Don’t lose hope. There will always be exceptions to the norm.

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                    I am not talking of hope.
                    Exceptions will not change reality.

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                      SJ – Change for the betterment have been alwats driven by exceptionals not the ordinary. Eg: MLK Jr, Mandela, Ghandi etc etc

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                      ‘Exceptionals’ achieve nothing without a social force to support.
                      But what I objected to was that exceptions to the norm cannot alter reality.
                      When an ordinary human achieves something we elevate him/her to an exceptional.
                      What creates exceptional conduct is a set of circumstances. It did not take the most brilliant of mind of all to change anything in the world.
                      *
                      I am not waiting for a messiah.

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                      SJ – commenting here the response to your last comment.
                      .
                      Yes, may be in the sphere of politics you might need the social force to change but it’s not a universal requirement.
                      .
                      From Socrates to Plato to Aristotle and to many other exceptional individuals in various fields like science, medicine, technology, economics etc etc the world history is full of exceptional people that had contributed to make the world what it is today. At times despite great adversity and going against the social forces that prevailed.
                      .
                      For example shifting our understanding of the universe from a geocentric one to a heliocentric one by Copernicus and Galileo.
                      .

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                      SJ – I don’t advocate that you wait – for a messiah.

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        Lester

        “People are much more materialistic and have a broader global sense than in the 1980’s and 1990’s.”

        Yet people are aware of the time bomb which is ticking, might go off anytime under their a***s. Isn’t it the reason why unprecedented number of people leaving the island? I think you should pull your head from wherever it is now.

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      paragon

      “TAMIL NATIONALISM IS DEAD AND BURIED IN MULLIVAIKAL ON 17TH MAY 2019.”

      In fact Tamil Nationalism was dead on 14 May 1976 in Pannakam and buried that evening.

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      PARAGON
      “CURRENT YOU TUBE WHATS-UP AND OTHER SOCIAL MEDIAS HAVE COMPLETELY HAVE CHANGED THE LIFE STYLE AND THINKING OF TAMIL YOUTHS.”

      If Sinhalese (not all) practiced Buddhism we would not have had this suffering. We would have been model to Singapore and other countries. Instead we are in the bottom.

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    “During the course of his post-election speeches, Mr Shritharan has framed his vision of the future in terms of federalism and the merger of the Northern and Eastern provinces and taken the position that the 13th Amendment is not adequate to meet the Tamil aspirations.”
    .
    What is the difference?
    .
    Even Sumanthiran wants a Tamil Federal State. He made it clear during the recent efforts made by Ranil to implement the 13th Amendment stating that he won’t support anything short of a Tamil Federal State and President’s initiatives are just a ploy to win elections.
    .
    It looks like both Shritharan and Sumanthiran want the same dish. Only the dressing is different. One comes clad in coat and tie, the other the sarong and shirt.
    .
    “This reflects the realization within the Tamil community that the path of dialogue and accommodation is not to be ruled out.” –
    .
    Does it mean Shritharan is not in favour of the path of dialogue and accommodation?

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      R
      The TNA/FP vote has been declining in the North ad East. So much so that the combined rivals (ACTC, CVW, SLFP, UNP, Douglas, Pillayan and others) holds more seats than the TNA/FP.
      The new line is a desperate bid to recapture votes lost to ACTC & CVW’s outfit.
      The FP had lost its sense of direction by the mid-1960s. The quality of leadership had sunk to rock bottom by 1977.

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        SJ – Which party has bicycle as the party symbol?

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          ACTC

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            SJ – “The new line is a desperate bid to recapture votes lost to ACTC & CVW’s outfit.”
            .
            Hence the title I presume.

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              Titles can be misleading.

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                True. It looks like Dr. Perera has slightly changed his tune. He has abondoned the critical approach with which he wrote his earlier pieces and slowly slowly ;) taking a pro-Ranil attitude.

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      “Even Sumanthiran wants a Tamil Federal State.” Oh dear, Sumanthiran wasn’t even born when Federalism was brought it.

      Unless there is a strong Charter of Rights and Freedom, and a totally independent Suprement Court is there to ensure fairness, federalism is the best form of peaceful governance for people to be free from majoritarian tyranny.

      All civilised nations in the world are federal states.

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        Fairmindedone – “Oh dear, Sumanthiran wasn’t even born when Federalism was brought it.” – Did I say he was? I was referring to the rivalry between him and Shritharan and has got nothing to do with when Federalism was first brought in. Tamils it appears could have easily had their separate Tamil Federate State at the time of independance if they wanted to, but they never did. Instead they wanted a 50% representation that was rejected. Now they sing a federal song. The attitude has been that of Shylock’s – somehow wanting a pound of flesh. With a federal state they may be ‘free’ of the majority but are you sure if they’d be free of tyranny? Especially when the central power is still with the majority. Plus what’s going to happen to the minorities outside? Those in the South. They will still continue to subjected to majority’s tyranny, noh?

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          Ruchira,
          “Tamils it appears could have EASILY HAD THEIR SEPARATE TAMIL FEDERATE STATE AT THE TIME OF INDEPENDENCE IF THEY WANTED TO, BUT THEY NEVER DID. Instead they wanted a 50% representation that was rejected. NOW THEY SING A FEDERAL SONG – 1950!!??”
          One needs to study critical events, in the interregnum of Colebrook-Cameron Recommendations and Donoughmore recommendations. Thereafter critically, what eventuated POST Donoughmore constitutional arrangement Governance, (that was time the TRUE “FANGS OF MONSTER” WAS REVEALED) the period just prior to SOULBURY INDEPENDENCE COMMISSION’S arrival in Colombo, when submissions (your advertence 50:50 representation) and outcomes thereof!!!??? History is important, because it reveals to the extreme, why and how certain events/outcomes occurred!!??
          The treacherous advent of discrimination, amply demonstrated!!?? Person whom Sinhalese, Portrayed as “SAVIOUR” showing their gratitude, taking – in “Hand-Drawn Chariot” on his return from England AFTER OBTAINING THE RELEASE OF IMPRISONED SINHALA LEADERS – aftermath of Muslim/Sinhala Riots – Harbour to ‘Sukhastan’, Ward Place, then Deny SAFE ELECTORAL SEAT (NC Pact) – WP overwhelmingly Sinhala Majority, speaks Loudly, ‘MOUNDS OF PLATITUDES’, EMBELLISHED character! “SHYLOCK WHO”?????
          The 1948, citizenship denial – Recent Origin Tamils – simply PALES INTO INSIGNIFICANCE, Comparatively, CHICKEN FEED!!?? Thereafter it was CASCADE after another!!! TSUNAMI!!??
          Does FEDERALISM SOUND WELL – CIRCUMSTANTIALLY!!!???????

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            “One needs to study critical events, in the interregnum of Colebrook-Cameron Recommendations and Donoughmore recommendations.”
            .
            Okay I will refer the ANCL archives, which may take a long time to never, as hair splitting of historical events between Tamils and Sinhalese is not one of my favourite past times.
            .
            “Thereafter critically, what eventuated POST Donoughmore constitutional arrangement Governance,..”
            .
            Dramatised narration that follows the above I presume refers to the politics of SWRDB.
            .
            But in my understanding GGP’s 50:50 demand predates any antics of the former or any events that cascaded thereafter as a result.
            .
            You conclude by highlighting the denial of citizenship to Indian Tamils and goes on to say Federalism perhaps offers a solution. That is if I understand your verbiage that is more rhetorical than having any substantive arguments.
            .
            How is the only question that comes to my mind when Indian Tamils are mostly comfined to the South?

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          Ruchira,
          “Those in the South. They will still continue to subjected to majority’s tyranny?”
          The ‘so-called’ Tyranny is NOT by the People!!! Sinhala, Muslim, Tamil, or Burgher!!??
          Tyranny is perpetrated by the “POLLIS” (Politicians, who aren’t educated beyond JPUM – Junior Pass Unable, Pass Matriculation) or as they say in MODERN DAY CV’s, seen “APPEARED A-LEVEL”, in MP’s Parliamentary records – Reason, remember well A Past SPEAKER ruled cannot be “DIVULGED to the Public” when sought under ‘FoI’ regulations – and their SIDE-KICKS in Administration, Police and Security Agencies! People of all ethnicities and religions are peace loving and show no discrimination! The problem is governance, probably, these guys who have been under the YOKE of Kings in the 2600+ years of Civilisation and latter part being under stringent British and Western Colonial Rule for 500 years do not know what Governance is!!??? Federation/Confederation – choose between the 2 – and respective people GOVERNED by people of equal, CHOICE equitable Intellect, than unequitable qualities, attributes!!!??? That’s the only way the problem would ever be solved!!!?? Hard fact!!??
          PROOF – 75 YEARS POST INDEPENDENCE GOVERNANCE!!! QED!
          Whilst on it, NOT condoning, Pity the speaker’s quandary, fearing that, ‘FoI’ RELEASE SPARK, Converting “SUSPICION” becoming FACTUAL REALITY!!!

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            “The ‘so-called’ Tyranny is NOT by the People!!! Sinhala, Muslim, Tamil, or Burgher!!??
            Tyranny is perpetrated by the “POLLIS” (Politicians, who aren’t educated beyond…”
            .
            “People of all ethnicities and religions are peace loving and show no discrimination!”
            .
            Wow!
            .
            That’s an interesting development! Since when is this? Last night?
            .
            All this time I thought it was the Chauvnist Sinhala Buddhist Racists! Now this is quite interesting…. please go on – I am all ears!
            .
            “The problem is governance, …”
            .
            I see….! Now I am getting curioser and curiouser… please go on… like I said b4, I am all ears…!
            .
            But in conclysion, you are implying that this won’t be a problem under a federal model?
            .
            Please do explain how that is going to happen? Like I said I am all ears….!

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          Ruchira,
          In a Federated/Confederated state, the Powers of the Centre would be somewhat TRAMMELLED, than in a Country with Unitary constitution or even with 13th Amendment or Indian Model!!?? Even when fully implemented!!?? Even the untrammelled Power of the center in this process, the Sinhalese are being tormented, that there are tigers hiding under every bed and even a “Rattan” Chair in the Lounge!!! They are working hard every Yard and Inch to Thwart, giving away “Devolved Power”, or devolution they initiated/invented, in response to the Federal call!!! The problem, seems lack of Intellect in current day Pollis, with due respect ARAGALAYA call to dispense with present OLD politicians and infuse, younger tribe!!???? May be new ideas, Innovation!!! Not maturity of Thought!!!??? Merit there may be but have reservations!!?? Especially, Current tribe POLLIS no DEEP understanding aspects of – Governance, of country!!!
          When 1986/87 talks – Parthasarathy (Gandhi’s’ NSA) – Mangalore/Bangalore, was on, FOXY JRJ, Machiavellian, Brother Legal/Eagle invented story ALL SL people must enjoy devolution, PC’s!?? Though, None wanted it!!! Reason, by Foxy, it is better to have 9 PC’s instead of 2 PC’s or (+ 1 Muslim PC)
          In EVENT OF SECCESSION, 9 COUNCILS MUST AGREE INSTEAD ONLY 2!!!???

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            “Sinhalese are being tormented, that there are tigers hiding under every bed and even a “Rattan” Chair in the Lounge!!!”
            .
            Don’t worry. We are not tormented. But we have clear objectives and are concerned when those are threatened by the utterances of the likes of your Dr. Uncivilzed D*ck and Wigneswaran. I am not sure why they shouldn’t be charged with treason when they invite india to invade Sri Lanka, with no provocation whatsoever, perhaps breaking all the international norms and conventions. An invasion of a sovereign nation far more grave act than simple meddling of its internal affairs.

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        Fmo
        There is a phrase in Malayalam, “Naayar pudiccha pulivaalu” (the tail of the tiger that Naayar grabbed).
        The FP clutched at federalism in 1949 and (like Naayar) could not let go.
        They had the SWRDB precedent to make use of, but their understanding of the national question was poorer than their understanding of federalism.
        The CP had spoken of regional autonomy much earlier. But its understanding of the national question too was rather confined to the language divide. Clarity among the leftists emerged gradually in the 1970s.
        *
        Politically, Sumanthiran’s heart I guess is in the old UNP. I doubt his popular appeal to the Jaffna electorate.
        But he besides Sampanthan is the only FP leader who can draft a document that can make sense. So he will continue to play a role in the FP.

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    “Fall Of Nationalism In North & South”
    Shocking news!
    How dare they?

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      “Rise and Fall…” not just fall… ;)

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        R
        Rise there was.
        But did it ever fall?

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          SJ – Dr. Perera seems to think so. See under hopeful signs. His sentiments surrounding Aragalya and post-Aragalaya psyche of Sinhalese polity, and the decleration that is Himalayan!

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            R
            Aragalaya was a dream for the naive and an opportunity for the crafty.
            It was an urban public resentment mobilized and guided by vested interests including NGOs.
            When it showed signs of a serious turn it was given rather abrupt jerks and brought to a grinding halt.
            The next Aragalaya if ever will not be a seaside carnival.

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              SJ – who are the other vested interests apart from the NGOs behind Aragalaya?.
              .
              Aragalaya to me looks like what some may call a “lot of farts but no sh!t” situation. It is in vain. A waste of time, money and effort. To think that all what was Aragalaya only resulted in erecting RW as the President is to say the least disappointing. He and his party seem to be the only beneficiaries. And Rajapakses still got off scot-free! Nothing much has been achieved except sacking Gota.

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                Have you not observed how certain embassies conducted themselves.
                There was also a sizeable slice of the well to do classes of Colombo.

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                  SJ – Ah those! Yeah yeah. That’s what I said it was lot of farts but no shit. Took us back to square one and niw stuck with this dude. I wonder if that’s what the wested ;) interests wanted? It looks like they can’t get a job done properly and we have to suffer the consequences.

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      “How dare they?”

      Perhaps they are sold out to China, begun believing in Mao’s red book and/or Deng’s advice, ” It doesn’t matter if a cat is black or white, as long as it catches mice”.

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    It if for the Sinhala people to solve this. They have to give up on the stances the Mahanayakes have taken that even the 13th Amendment is too much to grant to the Tamils. They must give up on the triumphalism that they won the war. such wars are never won. As long as the underlying problem remains unresolved, the embers smoulder until they burn again. This is what is happening when a more nationalist leader than the able Sumanthiran is chosen. The Sinhalese have suffered the consequences of their Mahavamsa madness. Their young want to pass the English standard exams so that they can migrate but keep failing because their leaders wanted the glory of the Sinhalese for them while their own idiot children went to Europe (and failed their exams, like Anura, Chandrika etc including the son of the Borulugoda Lion, the loudmouth father of the PM). Will they awaken? No chance. Anura KD was seen going to the Mahanayakes with flower trays. So much for the great socialist Sinhala leader.

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      Winners of wars never give anything to the losers. And don’t blame “Sinhala-Buddhist” extremists. It was the LTTE that rejected federalism & assassinated most of the intellectuals in their community when people like Neelan T were working on constitutional reform.

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        Yups! Winner takes all and that includes the North and the East too. If anyone wanna hate, hate the game not the players!

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          Personally I am not against a future federal state for Tamils. What I’m against is a separatist state that the Tamil Diaspora will hijack for their own gains. A lot of Tamils in the North & East receive remittances from relatives abroad, so the Diaspora has big influence. Remember, it was the Diaspora that financed the LTTE and facilitated various lies about Sri Lanka on websites like Tamilnet. So right now federalism is not a good idea, since it will be turned into a separatist movement by the Diaspora. That’s why they want “police powers.” Perhaps in a few decades.

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            Yes – the Tamil Diaspora is a menace.

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              Ruchira

              “Yes – the Tamil Diaspora is a menace.”

              No, LTTE was the creation of the Sinhala/Buddhist state and the racist thugs including the politicians so is Tamil Diaspora.

              Soon you will see Sinhala Diaspora menacing Sinhala/Buddhist rulers for their abuses, destruction of their future and the ….

              Hope you still live on this earth.

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                Native – you are referring to the genesis of diaspora, I am referring to its behaviour. They are two separate things. I’d be happy the day Sinhala Diaspora start doing that! I will be around for while to enjoy it. ;)

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                  Ruchira,

                  He is just writing rubbish without substance. If the LTTE was the creation of Sinhala-Buddhists, then why did the LTTE assassinate the TULF leadership? The primary influence on LTTE was DMK ideology. I read an interview of VP’s sister in Toronto. VP was a great admirer of Indian nationalists and read many books in that direction.

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                    Lester – Yes, India has openly accepted that they created ethnic rift in Sri Lanka because Sri Lanka was pro-US back then during the cold war period when India was a Russian ally. Do you have a link to the interview? Is it online?

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                      Ruchira,
                      Probably you aren’t old enough to remember 1958. Was India the cause of that? Local politicians must take most of the blame.

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                      Old Codger – May be rift wasn’t the most appropriate term to have used there. We were talking about the LTTE. I was not even born in 1958. Neither was LTTE I believe. I think if you want to put the sole responsibility on the Sinhalese leaders, thats the reason we should get rid of them. The time has come.
                      .

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                      Ruchira,

                      The original interview was with Canadian National Post, 16 December 2008. I found a copy on another website: https://www.tamilguardian.com/content/rebel-family.

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                    Lester – Thanks for the link to the interview with VPs sis. Strange how a sister of a terrorist leader is allowed live freely, a priviledge that some sisters don’t have, even if their brothers aren’t any terrorists.

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                    Ruchira,
                    “If the LTTE was the creation of Sinhala-Buddhists, then why did the LTTE assassinate the TULF leadership?”
                    Simple Mr. Watson!!
                    Because “LTTE WAS THE CREATION OF GOOD SINHALA-BUDDHISTS”, may be a Good adduceable Reason – To stop LTTE on its Track!!!???

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                      Why on earth are you putting other people’s words in my mouth and expect me to answer? I already dealt with this line of thought when someone else also tried it. May be you should find the relevant comment here and read it or direct your questions to the appropriate person.

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                  Ruchira

                  “I will be around for while to enjoy it”

                  Where were you when Sinhala Diaspora protested in many western countries (not in China) during when Gota and his clan caused unprecedented level of people agitation?

                  It is good not to sit on one’s brain.

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                    Native – what’s the point you are trying to raise?

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            Lester

            “What I’m against is a separatist state that the Tamil Diaspora will hijack for their own gains. “

            Now the scapegoat is Tamil Diaspora.
            Tamil Diaspora didn’t exist before 2005.
            Why didn’t your saffronistas campaign to encourage devolution of powers, restructuring the state and restoring the democratic rights of the people?

            Have you lot ever wanted to learn from history?

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              Native
              “restructuring the state and restoring the democratic rights of the people”
              No one has ever proposed a structure where aspirations of at least 60% of Tamil speaking people scattered across the island could be met.

              Soma

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                soma

                “No one has ever proposed a structure where aspirations of at least 60% of Tamil speaking people scattered across the island could be met.”

                Forget the 60 or 100% Tamils.

                The country needs complete overhaul.
                State must be liberated from Politicians, State functionaries, Saffronistas, Crooks, Habitual Murderers, Corrupt Racist Policemen and War Criminals, One Country, One Law, One Language, One Religious, Sinhala/Buddhist Hindutvas, One Family, One Leader, ……. ban all processions by saffronistas except when they go for begging food, ……

                Legally enforcing public disclosure of assets owned by every politician, saffronista, state functionary, every person, members of army, navy, airforce, STF, …… Every Diaspora Remittance above certain amount, …… and their mistresses, families and friends, …

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                That’s why the proposal for Federal States and devolve powers instead of Power concentrated at an epicenter Presently!!???

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            Lester

            “Personally I am not against a future federal state for Tamils.”

            Federalism is for all not just the Tamils.

            “Remember, it was the Diaspora that financed the LTTE and facilitated various lies about Sri Lanka on websites like Tamilnet.”

            Not just the Diaspora that financed LTTE but people were taxed in north east, when Prabaharan was alive LTTE wisely invested in various businesses through out the world. Gota and Basil have complete information.

            Then of course Premadasa and Mhinda/Basil too had invested lot of money in LTTE.

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        Winning and losing is transient state. Impermanence is the gold standard.

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          Amen! Oopps soryy. It should be sadu sadu sadu!

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        Lester

        ” It was the LTTE that rejected federalism & assassinated most of the intellectuals in their community when people like Neelan T were working on constitutional reform.”

        What stopped Sinhala/Buddhists to unilaterally reform the state, restore democratic rights of the people, …..
        What a nonsense Neelan, Gl, …. had already drafted new constitution, the parliament which was (and still is) full of stupid dumbasses and racists destroyed the only draft which was worth having.

        We know there had been many scapegoats in the past, GG Ponna, SJV Chelva, Amir, .. VP, Sambandan, and now the Tamil Diaspora.

        ??????

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          Vedda,

          Have you figured out why GG Ponnambalam (who visited Nazi Germany on numerous occasions) was opposed to the Donoughmore Constitution? Is it because, as DC Jane Russel writes, “”Ponnambalam Ramnathan and most of the ‘conservatives’ believed and argued that the giving of the vote to the non-vellala castes and to women was not only a grave mistake, leading to ‘mob rule’, but Ramanathan explicitly suggested that it was anathema to the Hindu way of life”.”

          The fake freedom struggle was fake from the beginning. Vellalar only wanted to protect their caste privileges. When that failed, they used the lower castes (Prabhakaran) to go after the Sinhalese. Even Velu did not trust these foxes, that’s why he eliminated them (TULF) one by one.

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            Lester

            “Have you figured out why GG Ponnambalam (who visited Nazi Germany on numerous occasions) was opposed to the Donoughmore Constitution?”

            The Public Racist Anagarika Homeless Dharmapala admired Nazi Germany and Hitler as if Hitler was his distant cousin through Aryan connection.
            I now know how/why dumb asses are being elected to the parliament or as presidents.

            “The fake freedom struggle was fake from the beginning. Vellalar only wanted to protect their caste privileges.”

            Now tell us why non Govi are not allowed to join Malwatta and Asgiria?
            Please refer to Sinhala/English print media for caste based matrimonial adverts.

            “When that failed, they used the lower castes (Prabhakaran) to go after the Sinhalese.”

            Did they?
            Are you saying one fine morning all Vellalas got up early got together and told the lower castes (alternative depressed castes or dalits) to find a lower caste leader, …… told him to go fight the Sinhalese and VP did that obediently?

            I suppose you are assuming all those who joined LTTE and other militant groups were from Dalit community and they were stupid. We know VP was very stupid however if they were that stupid how did they manage to keep your Ranavirasus at bay for 26 years?

            You should pull your head from H.L.D. Mahindapala’s (who was a major proponent of Vellala myth) back as he has passed away yesterday.

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              Native,
              “Anagarika Homeless Dharmapala admired Nazi Germany and Hitler “
              Our genius Lester has such a talent for shooting himself in the foot.

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              Vedda,

              You cannot explain why LTTE assassinated TULF, even though the enemy was supposed to be Sinhalese. Case closed.

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              Native,

              “Dharmapala admired Nazi Germany and Hitler”

              Dharmapala was born in 1864 and died in 1933. Nazis did not come to power until 1933.

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                Native is right. It was there long before Hitlor nazism broke out the wars. Lester is framed for some reasons. Why not you go to the nearest psychiatrist ?
                Please read the facts below.
                .
                https://www.britannica.com/event/Nazism
                .
                The roots of Nazism
                Nazism had peculiarly German roots. It can be partly traced to the Prussian tradition as developed under Frederick William I (1688–1740), Frederick the Great (1712–68), and Otto von Bismarck (1815–98), which regarded the militant spirit and the discipline of the Prussian army as the model for all individual and civic life. To it was added the tradition of political romanticism, with its sharp hostility to rationalism and to the principles underlying the French Revolution, its emphasis on instinct and the past, and its proclamation of the rights of Friedrich Nietzsche’s exceptional individual (the Übermensch [“Superman”]) over all universal law and rules. These two traditions were later reinforced by the 19th-century adoration of science and of the laws of nature, which seemed to operate independently of all concepts of good and evil. Further reinforcements came from such 19th-century intellectual figures as the comte de Gobineau (1816–82), Richard Wagner (1813–83), and Houston Stewart Chamberlain (1855–1927), all of whom greatly influenced early Nazism with their claims of the racial and cultural superiority of the “Nordic” (Germanic) peoples over all other Europeans and all other races.

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                Lester

                “Nazis did not come to power until 1933.”

                Yes, but Nazi party was founded in 1919 as the German Workers’ Party.
                The Nazi party’s ideology of German being superior race had its origin many decades before 1933, and the stupid Ceylon Racist admired Nazi ideology and believed Sinhalese belonged to Aryan race.

                Please read his typing.

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                  Native,

                  Dharmapala called the Nordic people as “savages.” What kind of Nazi is that?

                  “The Bhikkhu Sangha became a universal brotherhood, and the refuge of the high and the low. All Asia heard the law of compassion, the religion of wisdom was preached to all, and the Dhamma of Karuna and Pragna was accepted by men and Gods. Jehovah, Allah, Vishnu, Shiva, Kali, Durga, Jesus were names not yet heard in the civilised world. The European races with the exception of Romans and Greeks were then in a state of Barbaric paganism. The ancestors of the British were then living naked in the forest. The Nordic races were still savages.”

                  Dharmapala is pointing out that the world was better off without Christianity and European influence.

                  “and believed Sinhalese belonged to Aryan race.”

                  He is talking about the group of people who speak some derivative of Sanskrit. That language is called “Indo-Aryan” by linguists.

                  “In the words of Indologist Michael Witzel, the term ārya “does not mean a particular people or even a particular ‘racial’ group but all those who had joined the tribes speaking Vedic Sanskrit and adhering to their cultural norms (such as ritual, poetry, etc.)”

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            Lester,
            “Ponnambalam Ramanathan and most of the ‘conservatives’ believed and argued that the giving of the vote to the ‘NON-VELLALA CASTES’ and to women was not only a grave mistake, LEADING TO ‘MOB RULE’!!!
            1931 to 2024 a Long Period of (92 Years), Sri Lanka has proved the ‘SANCTITY of that claim’, beyond any and all reasonable doubt!!! Well exemplified in Sri Lanka!?

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            Lester the Jester,
            Yours,
            “Have you figured out WHY “GG PONNAMBALAM” (GGP) who visited Nazi Germany on numerous occasions was opposed to the Donoughmore Constitution?
            DC Jane Russel writes, PONNAMBALAM RAMANATHAN and most of the ‘conservatives’ believed and argued that —————- the Hindu way of life”
            G. G. PONNAMBALAM was elected to the Donoughmore Constitution, (DC) Ceylon State Council in 1934!! The Board of Ministers established after the 1936 state council election consisted entirely of Sinhalese members, EXCLUDING MINORITIES WHO TOGETHER MADE UP 35% OF CEYLON’S POPULATION!!!?? That’s why GGP was, justifiably against the DC!!?? Hope have answered your query in that respect!!!???
            What RELEVANCE has PONNAMBALAM RAMANATHAN got to do with GGP or what the former claimed in respect of voting rights to GGP??
            Seems you are confused and KNOTTED the KNICKERS based on IRRELEVANCE!!???
            They are 2 different Individuals of 2 different eras!!??

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        Lester the Jester.
        “When people like Neelan T were working on constitutional reform.”
        HOW VERY TRUE??? ………..and RW who was last December (2022) was keen to resolve the issue, by 4th February 2022 (Last Independence Day) took the opportunity ‘kindle the flame of HATRED’ amongst his Parliamentarians and helped to turn the document to Ashes in the Hallowed precincts of Parliament!?? All went up in Smoke and Blackened Paper!!!??? What a monumental disaster, who, post that event signed the Peace accord!!! What a Conjecture!!?? Either, unable to concoct a PERFECT STORY, which is a “good fit” OR FACTS do not seem to STACK UP!? CONCOCTIONS, NEED, MUCH DEEPER intellect than just REPEATING FACTS!!??
        FUNNY!

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          Sorry, I cannot understand the text. The poor sentence structure and grammar defy my comprehension.

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            Then it is ‘High-Time’ you attend School, at your convenience “NIGHT School” or better the closest Pirivena to learn something, for much needed Erudition, ESPECIALLY English, which the ardent patriot’s thought was a Waste of time in their Heyday – 1956 to date!!!??? HAPPY DAYS!!!???

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            “CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE TEXT. The POOR SENTENCE STRUCTURE AND GRAMMAR DEFY MY COMPREHENSION”
            PIRIVENA EDUCATION DOESN’T PROVIDE THOSE SPECIALIST SECTOR OFLEARNING ENGLISH!!!?? Well, very Interesting note indeed??? Meaning your ill-structured response!!??? Your futility is well exposed!! Nincompoops are never accountable and very Infectious!!?? Master to Servant!!??

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          Mahila Mahathmaya,
          .
          HLD Mahindapala who was the god father of all sinhala racists, died lately.
          :
          Lester and the like remain further. That is the reality of our hell. They woudl never consider the facts. There is a MP in current Parliement… Gewindu Kumaranathunga.. his thoughts and minds are a like that of a venemous reptile…

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            LM,
            I have addressed the question of “Structure of Sentence” to the guy unable to discern the back from front!!! He is a HMV – His Masters Voice!!!?? Looks like the tutorial answer of his vociferous Master, who himself can’t make a proper sentence in English, which is well known fact!!!???

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      Dear Cicero,
      .
      I have found hat you’re a good and decent man And when you talk about those affairs that you know something about your comments are very intelligent.
      .
      Earlier this month, I was getting lots of comments rejected because I was giving too many links, but I have to take you back here to what we discussed around last Christmas owing to an eloquent article by Dr ANI Ekanayake:
      .
      https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/is-true-system-change-in-sri-lanka-only-a-fantasy/
      .
      Many sensible things were said there, but what dominated the reactions of Professor Ekanayake was an unreasoning prejudice against everything that the NPP does and says. I emailed the good Professor, sent him my telephone number, and suggested that we discuss some of the misconceptions that I felt that he harboured. I had made the first comment on that article, and from it you will see that just before the article appeared he had written to me.
      .
      So it is respectfully that I ask you whether you find it offensive for AKD to go along with Buddhist customs in this land by carrying some flowers to the Mahanayakes, something that you and I may not do?

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        As a mark of respect, yes. But, socialists are for secularism not for hegemony of any single religion. I admire AKD. I go for his May Day meetings. But, he has not announced any policy on the ethnic issue. As for the Mahanayakes, they probably stopped the Bandaranaike-Chelvanayagam packed which would have prevented the war and settled the ethnic issue. They have a lot to answer for. The Buddhist priests have been used by the Sinhala politician to create smokescreens to hide their corruption. That is my grouse. Like in Europe, which took many years to separate Church from state, in Sri Lanka, Buddhist priests must go back to pristine ideas of renouncing wealth and power.

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          Dear Cicero,
          .
          It is a pleasant surprise to hear you say that you admire AKD, etc.
          .
          How well do you know Sinhala? I listen to him for many hours, and to me he sounds very clear on ethnic affairs. But then, what you want are specific undertakings, I guess.
          .
          I agree with you that Buddhist monks ought to stay out of politics, but, of course, they do have political rights like any of us. I know little of Buddhism, since my background is Christianity.
          .
          We talk here of what is desirable – separating Religion from State, etc, but I don’t know whether there are rules. It’s all a bit confusing, but I’m glad that many have liked your comment.
          .
          Panini Edirisinhe

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            SM ,
            “I agree with you that Buddhist monks ought to stay out of politics, but, of course, they do have political rights like any of us. “
            No, they don’t. According to the Vinaya, they are not supposed to interfere in the affairs of the State.
            Buddhist monks are not allowed to travel in vehicles, or drive them. Like Christian clergy, they have a code of conduct, which is openly flouted, just like the Christans.

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        Sinhala man has clearly modernized his previously idiosyncratic thinking for our blessing. This is a good step as CT and its existence are like tree and bark by SM’s contribution.
        This is a very good step. I really don’t know how it happened. I am compelled to read more and more of his recent comments with admirable content. I added “thumbs up” to all of them. I think it’s easier for everyone to change than to try to change others. I also read about portuguese and afro tiny communities in srilanka as elucidated by a good doctor from colombo univerisity, whom I respect a lot.
        .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-F02wMlbrs
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojqIAj-Xv5E
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLZsQPea2Kg
        . I found your comments were very informative. In fact, those selected comments about some small step families in Baddarawela and Badula area were a good idea. I became aware of the sects of Islam in the early 90s when I started life in Europe. In our student hostel, we had different types of students representing the whole world (Africa, South Asia, Persia, Middle East, Australia, US, Eastern Europe and many more).

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    Jehan says
    “The 13th Amendment represents the furthest that the Sri Lankan state has gone in devolving powers to the provinces. “
    MCM IQBAL writes
    “What we have seen all this while are some of the main provisions that nullify the belief that the implementation of the 13th Amendment would devolve power to the Provincial Councils and pave the way for a separate state. They fall far short of the aspirations of the Tamils. The problems that led to the war will continue even after this amendment is implemented either in full or in part. Two other matters have often been highlighted in this connection, that is the question of the establishment of a Provincial Police Force and the devolution of powers over land. Even if these powers are granted in full, the other provisions relating to the Governor’s powers will nullify any devolution in these matters. Besides, the centre can always declare its national policy on any of these matters and take away with the left hand what it gives with the right.

    In short, the executive and legislative powers of the Provincial Council continues to be with the President and exercised by the Governor whom he appoints while the Governor exercises such powers with the assistance and advice of the Chief Minister, the members of the Board of Ministers and through the members of the Provincial Public Service.

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    This is in ITAK constitution-
    (online translation)
    a) Objective:
    The aim of this Party is to achieve the political, economic and cultural emancipation of the Tamil speaking people of Sri Lanka by establishing an autonomous Tamil State and an Autonomous Muslim State under the principle of self-determination as part of the United Ceylon Federal Government.

    Note: The minority nationalities living in the self-governing state in the Tamil homeland and their religious and linguistic rights will be fully guaranteed.

    (b) Basic . Policies :
    The Party will work for the following principles:
    1. Tamil speaking persons born in Sri Lanka or having Sri Lanka as their native place. Establishing full citizenship rights for all people.
    2. Social upliftment. – To unite and enlighten the Tamil speaking people of Sri Lanka by eradicating the lows, injustices and untouchability especially among a section of the people.
    3. Establishment of a socialist economic system without discrimination on the basis of race, caste, religion, gender and equal opportunities in education, employment and national interests.

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      When was this version created?
      Did not the FP breach its own constitution when it initiated the Vaddukkoddai Resolution of 1976?

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        “Did not the FP breach its own constitution when it initiated the Vaddukkoddai Resolution of 1976?”

        Vaddukkoddai Resolution of 1976 was passed by the conference, which included FP as well.

        Excerpt of Constitution of the People’s Republic of China
        (Full text after amendment on March 14, 2004):

        Article 1 The People’s Republic of China is a socialist state under the people’s democratic dictatorship led by the working class and based on the alliance of workers and peasants.

        The socialist system is the basic system of the People’s Republic of China. Disruption of the socialist system by any organization or individual is prohibited.

        Did not the Chinese Communist Party breach its own constitution when it initiated capitalist economic system? So whats the problem with FP?

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    JP, We have our nationalism. Why on earth should it rise and fall

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      What rises or falls is its mass appeal.

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      davidthegood

      “Why on earth should it rise and fall”

      Nationalism does not feed people.
      The only purpose of nationalism used to be to raise number of votes for the most abhorrent notorious candidates and party, please refer to 2019 presidential election results.
      His nasty parochial nationalism did not feed people.
      The patriotic scoundrel was chased out by people.

      Therefore people who value democracy are responsible for keeping a lid on rising nationalism.

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    again with the ethnofederalist trash, Jehan. smh. devolving power based on ethnicity at the expense of a unified Lankan identity that is based on the national Sinhala language (spoken by all with no threat to anyone celebrating their heritage) and with (Theravada) Buddhism (that gives all faiths a seat at the table) as the state religion is simply a waste of resources/time. Malaysia is such a stunning success that follows above mentioned albeit with Bahasa Malaya and Islam. No ethnofederalism whatsoever! Even the federalism it practices is simply based on respecting the royal families who themselves are against ethnofederalism and uphold the unitary Malay identity.

    ITAK/TNA might b*tch and bark, but Bharat controls Tamil Nadu/Historical Tamilakam and would prefer to deal with an island who’s people can work together and represent their (is)land with one voice. On what planet is Bharat or any of its Western allies going to deal with a situation where secession of an ethnically cleansed north and east of Raja Rata and Ruhuna for/by the tamils occurs?

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      In peninsula Malaysia, there is no territory with a Chinese or Indian majority which could be claimed on an ethnic basis. It is different in Sabah and Sarawak where there is no Malay or Islamic majority. These two states claim separation from Malaysia. So, get the facts right. Also, the Malays are still backward and there is now a return to English in the state universities, the lessons having been learnt. There are foreign campuses in Malaysia where education is in English. The economy is still controlled by the Chinese. In Singapore, once a part of Malaysia, there is economic progress which has dwarfed Malaysia. So get your facts straight Liger, born not out of buggery of a lion but of a mixture of a tiger and a lion. Try to reflect your neutral ancestry

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        so what you’re saying is that in no way shape or form should the indigenous Malays EVER go for ethnofederalism because of the constant threat of secessionism or ethnic segregation? Why dear Cicero, I agree! In fact, it is the very reason that Lanka should NEVER allow ethnic segregation. Indeed, this will allow for peace and NEUTRALITY to exist between Lanka’s peoples, whether they are indigenous Lankans or not.

        the move towards wider adoption of english and economic policies that protect the Malays is happening under the aegis of a unified Malay identity, and not any ‘backwardness’ just fyi.

        Try to not be such a pathetic segregationist would you old boy?

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    In the photograph they all look like good friends joking around ……… are they deceiving the Sinhalese and the Tamils both?

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    J’s article explains why Sinhala Buddhist Sri Lanka has gone to retarded fools. Since bogus 1948 independence, Sri Lanka has been ruled/RUINED by Christian Kalu-Suddha barstards.
    /
    Listen to Lee Kuan Yew:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x3lUD8ScQKk&pp=ygUZbGVlIGt1YW4geWV3IGNocmlzdGlhbml0eQ%3D%3D
    /
    Sinhala Buddhists are nationalistic and patriotic because Sri Lanka belongs to INDIGENOUS Sinhala Buddhists, but Tamils have no point being nationalistic in Sri Lanka because they belong to Tamil Nadu.
    /
    This writer should know that under duress 13th amendment is I

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      Correction:
      This writer should know that under duress signed 13th amendment is “ILLEGAL”.

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      Dear Tony,
      .
      You’ve given us a link
      to a wonderful excerpt from a discussion on the subject of religion by Lee Kuan Yew. Internal evidence shows that it was made at least sixty years ago. How prophetic, how intelligent, how acceptable. Only eight listenable minutes in such perfect English. I hope that all readers will listen – I won’t ask you to listen attentively, because it is enthralling.
      .
      I didn’t expect this to come from Tony of all people. Just look at the way he uses intemperate language; the unacceptable measures that he proposes. There may be many reasonable and rational people who will not want to click on anything provided by Tony. That would be a mistake.
      .
      Speaking of mistakes, I was advised by Colombo Telegraph not to give so many links. I agree that I was making that mistake. And in this instance, I have instead of re-posting that link provided enough reasons for readers to look at what Tony has given us.
      .
      And Tony, whilst thanking you for that wonderful link, may I observe that you have much to learn from it?
      .
      Panini Edirisinhe of Bandarawela

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        Sinhala_Man (Mr. Panini Edirisinghe),

        Tony raises an interesting point. Is it possible for a group of people to have two separate homelands? Take as an example, a “White” Australian. We know this person’s ancestors came from Great Britain. Does that make him/her Australian or British?

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          Lester – It makes them POMEs. The difference is they have succeeded in annihilating the indegenous people of Australia to a great extent and marginalizing who ever left, successfully. It’s the same attitude with which Tamils operate under the guise of seeking autonomy, self determination etc etc in Sri Lanka and claiming that Sinhalese are racists and engaged in genocide. To the contrary the rare comments like the one above made by someone who identifies himself as Dr. Gnana Sankaralingam reveals their true intentions to annihilate not only Sinhalases but Biddhists as well in Sri Lanka. It is the same attitude with which white christian supremacists colonized the world, making various claims that the captured land belonged to them and the superiority complex that led to the holocaust. That we are superior to you for these these reasons.
          .
          Dear Sinhala_Man,
          .
          Please have a look at the comment I refer to above to identify the real racists in the house.

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            Ruchira,

            Good points. While the LTTE was around, there was an apartheid state, yet they accuse others of genocide. Basically they want all the land in the North and East, around 33.5% of the island. A total population that was only 528K in 1911, laying claim to 33.5% of the whole island based on Mahavamsa being “false” and some TN fishermen building ishwarams. A magistrate would throw the case out, citing lack of evidence/circumstantial evidence. Of course the majority community made some mistakes, e.g. 1983, but these have mostly been acknowledged and cannot be undone anyway.

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              Lester – Agree. This nonsense must be stopped. Whose trying to grab lands is clear.

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                R
                Do you really not know what has been happening to land in Tamil and Muslim areas in the past few decades?
                We can always go back millennia in history the way the Zionists do only to destroy whatever peace we have,

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                  SJ – I agree. You speak as if I started this. It wasn’t me. It was always burning. When I found it.

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            Ruchira,
            “the rare comments like the one above made by someone who identifies himself as Dr. Gnana Sankaralingam reveals their true intentions to annihilate not only Sinhalases but Biddhists as well in Sri Lanka”
            If you think Dr. G’s comment represents the intent of ALL Tamils, would you describe this monk as representative of ALL Sinhalese?
            Are you really that simple-minded?
            https://youtu.be/1UwZzf602mY
            There are rabid racists on all sides.

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              Old codger – There’s a big difference between your Dr. Uncivilized D*ck and the joker of a monk you have referred to, and if you can’t see that, you are the simple minded one.

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                Ruchira,
                I don’t agree with Dr. G and his eccentric views, but why don’t you look up who he is and what he was doing in SL before migrating?
                The “diaspora” label , like “humanitarian ” is misused.

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                  Old codger – it doesn’t matter what he is or what he has been doing b4 migration. His comment, not just the one above, but several he has been making in previous posts, tells what he really is – as the name suggests – nothing but an uncivilized dick! I don’t mind dicks. There are quite a lot of them. Infact half the world is of them. It’s the uncivilized part that is troubling. Quite characteristic of certain groups of Tamil diaspora.

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                    R
                    For every Dr G there is a Sinhala counterpart.
                    Do they represent their communities?
                    Deal wit them if necessary at all, but do not make them repsentatives of communities.

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                      SJ – Read the newest opinion piece by Wigneswaran. They are representing the Tamils. You are not. You belong to the exceptions. Not the norm.

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                      SJ & OC – Waiting for India to occupy Sri Lanka isn’t some eccentric view expressed by an insignificant person on internet as the two of you seem to suggest. It is rooted in certain Indian Hindutva sentiments that has been taking traction since of late to create a greater India in the region of South Asia and I am not the only one who is protesting, many officials in the region from Pakistan and Bangladesh including have expressed their concern. If you don’t know, may be its time to get yourselves educated and if you don’t support yhe idea, to actively oppose it, rather than taking a position of neutrality dismissing it as an utterance of one senile eccentric individual, that has no real value or basis.

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          This comment was removed by a moderator because it didn’t abide by our Comment policy.

          For more detail see our Comment policy https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/comments-policy-2

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          It doesn’t really matter where they originally came from; if they have cut almost all links to their country of origin, then they have to belong to their new country.
          .
          However, there are many who have virtually migrated abroad, but still follow affairs in this country – for instance all those who contribute from abroad to a forum like Colombo Telegraph – they still more than half belong to us.
          .
          But their children, especially those born abroad, are not only unlikely to have much that is Sri Lankan about them, but it is best that they integrate with the new country. However, since these are human beings one shouldn’t generalise too much. There could well be pockets where marriages are arranged, and the children grow up for generations within the culture they grew up in.
          .
          Panini Edirisinhe of Bandarawela

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            Sinhala_Man,

            “It doesn’t really matter where they originally came from; if they have cut almost all links to their country of origin, then they have to belong to their new country.”

            This is a good answer. Although with Australians, Kiwis, Canadians, etc. of European descent – they do not claim to be indigenous to Australia, NZ, Canada, etc. That would be impossible. You can live in two different places but you can be (biologically) indigenous to only one of them.

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              Hello Lester,
              .
              “You can live in two different places but you can be (biologically) indigenous to only one of them.”
              .
              where did you get this definition from ? Please provide us with a link for source. Thank you.

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          I played safe with the comment submitted just before this, because the previous one was moderated out because I dealt with individuals who emigrated.
          .
          However, we have minority groups in out own country – for example Gujaratis. Actually there I think that one comes up with the fact some are Hindus, and others Muslims. And there may be other significant details that one doesn’t realise exist.
          .
          Anyway, there is a family, in Bandarawela, very sucessful in business, who are now in their fifith generation at least, who speak only Gujarati at home. And they are Shia Muslims, so they don’t attend the local mosque. They used “to bring” spouses from Gujarat, in India. A few months ago, I actually asked them how they manage, and they said that there are enough families in the country now for them to arrange marriages here. Another such business family exists in Badulla.
          .
          Rather like the Amish in Pennsylvania, Ramona. As for inbreeding, I found that extensive studies have been done – at a distance! – regarding North Sentinel island, where they have managed all right for centuries, or is it millennia. I used to check on such things, but in the case of the Sentinelese, I’m sure that there must be disagreements even among the anthropologists.
          .
          But isn’t still living Professor Triloknath Pandit an absolute treasure?
          .
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfQpXh8YICQ
          .
          An unforgettable four minutes from him.

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            SM,
            Yes, these minorities within minorities are very interesting, given the fact too that the Sindhis, Gujaratis , Memons and Bahais between them control a totally out-of-proportion chunk of the country’s trade, even after energetic efforts to oust them. Don’t forget the Parsis.
            Thanks for something different from your usual output.

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              oc
              Did you note that he did not name the ethnic identity of the Gujarati Shia Muslim family.
              That is as far as the interest went.

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                SJ
                Perhaps SM has changed for the better. No demands for real identities, etc. Let’s wait and see…

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                Dear SJ, I don’t understand!
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                Isn’t their ethnic identity defined when one says that they are Gujaratis? They are much fairer than most of us.
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                They are not really resented by those who belong to the three major communities that we have. That is to say the Muslims get accepted as a community. Most of them are trilingual. Their language used to be Tamil, but there is a steady shift to Sinhalese. As for religion, few Sinhalese know that there is any Islam other than Sunni. Some do think of it as an opportunistic trend.
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                The people who are terribly neglected are the “Up-Country Tamils”. They are the exploited and hardworking in this area. I think that there is now appreciation of that among the Sinhalese.

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              Yes, this man I spoke to said that there are Gujaratis in many countries, and they are all in business, and help one another.
              .
              I didn’t ask prying questions; but what you say about these people controlling huge chunks of the economy is matter for concern. I remember that in the 1960s and 70s the Sinhalese were very hostile towards them.
              .
              But that said, they thrive in business because they are not unfair in the way they conduct transactions with others.

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                SM,
                “but what you say about these people controlling huge chunks of the economy is matter for concern.”
                Why should it be a concern ?. They are citizens of this country. Business is not something that everyone is equally good at.. Some communities are better at it than others, given a free hand. Even in India, Gujarati and Sindi clans have cornered a lot of business.
                In SL, they run their garment and other businesses efficiently, much better than any bumbling military panjandrum could.

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              This is about AMISH
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              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRodjLbdTps

              They are originated from Germany, Switzerland several european countries .

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            SM
            This is undoubtedly a very interesting topic. Thanks for opening the eyes of the commenters.
            Knowing that our burgher communities have been discarded by Sinhalese racists and their responses are already 5 decades old, I have often asked myself who are the representatives of those small communities.
            So what about smaller communities like Portuguese or African?
            .
            Some time ago I got to know a burgher Sri Lankan who lived in southern Germany. Born and brought up in the suburbs of Colombo, he was very sorry to hear all the things he was telling us because of the discrimination they faced in Sri Lanka. So what about the hidden activities of even smaller communities such as the African Sri Lankans in Halawatha or some other corner of the region?
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZcdkQdTZ_U

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            Those who are not aware of Amish community:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU7-Vnd_tsU

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          Lester the jester,
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          How primitive you should be ? How did your parents raise you ? was that in a prison ? Were you lakcing something in terms of your coginitive growth in your adolesence ? I dont see any other reasoning behind that, to draw conclusion of your racial thinking. No need talk more, are u being not treated equally in UK ? I dont have much problems where I am for my luck.
          .
          According to you INCUMBENT PM (Rishi Sunak) of UK woudl not have been elected, if they did not consider him as a UK citizen. But the reality is they recogmized him and was treated with the same rights until he became the PM of that country.
          :
          While living FURTHER in that country, Lester the joker is raising “stupid”questions similar to that of an ultra racist called ” TONY” for no good reason … either you are connected with a pathological reasoning on this or you are born as such. Let TONY or the like be sunken in hell, but dont spread further racial statements. Thank you.

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            Leela,

            Brits did not willingly choose Sunak. First choice was Liz Truss. She did a real “Sirima” with the economy and had to resign. After that the only choice was Sunak. Sri Lankans have also evolved. Rather than going through another JVP phase to remove Gota, they did some “Aragalaya.” Although Aragalaya lacked vision, as they burned down Moda Ranil’s residence (waste of kerosene). Also, these people were supposedly “starving”, but had the energy to dance in the streets at all hours. I wonder what real starving people (N Korea) would say if they saw the ali patiyas of Aragalaya. Anyway, Sunak does not represent the working class. He has more connections than the Italian Mafia. The man was bred to be an elitist. Winchester, Oxbridge, and later worked for Goldman, so he has the approval of the bankers. That’s why the first choice of Brits was LT, not Sunak.

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          Much more sad and poignant surely is the fate of the indigenous people who once inhabited what we now think of as “white countries”. The various tribes in America – I think that most would know that they get mad if they are referred to as “Red Indians”. As one of their chiefs said, “Had it been China that Colombus had gone in search of, we would have been called “Red Chinese”!
          .
          The Maoris in New Zealand, and, of course the Aborigines of Australia. I made a careful study of The Chant of Jimmie Blacksmith by Thomas Keneally, whilst in the University. And now I find that the entire film is on the Internet for free:
          .
          https://archive.org/details/the-chant-of-jimmie-blacksmith-1978
          .
          Not YouTube, therefore no advertisements, I feel. I’m most grateful to Youtube for the hours upon hours of music that they provide, but isn’t it deplorable that they punctuate the late Beethoven quartets with ads – an ominous sign of things to come. If I were rich, I’d plum for their “Premium Membership”, but it is true that in the real world one has to pay for everything.

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          Where did the Sinhalese come from? The lack of knowledge of many Sinhalese outside of the narrow confines of the Sinhala-Buddhist culture is shocking. The Sinhala script, the celebration of the ‘Sinhala’ New Year’, many of the food Sinhalese now call as their own, the traditional clothes villages wear, the practice of astrology and horoscope reading, names ending with “goda”, many many first names, on and on, all came from India! The idea that Sinhalese have more right than Tamils to the island that we today call “Sri Lanka” is ridiculous. Except the Veddhas, most Sri Lankans trace their ancestry to India.

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          Lester

          “Is it possible for a group of people to have two separate homelands? Take as an example”

          How come Arab speaking people share more than 22 countries?
          Palestinians have two homelands.

          ” Does that make him/her Australian or British?”

          How about Kallathonie converts from South India who claim to be Sinhala/Buddhists and continue to grab the entire land?

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            Native
            Before you proceed further have you sorted out the issue of which areas to be allocated for Tamil speaking people who practise Hindu as their religion and those who practise Islam as their religion?
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            Soma

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              Some mini federal states may have to be created I suppose. Oh then all those separate castes! 😱

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          Hello Lester,
          I am a nearly white Sri Lankan Resident, but not yet a Citizen. I have a British Passport that states I have the right of abode in the United Kingdom. Also as a UK citizen the state has no right to prevent me leaving the country at any time unless I am avoiding arrest for a criminal offence. Do Sri Lankans have this right? If you have a passport then your Citizenship is clear – my wife is a Citizen of the Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka. The UK does not have National ID Cards however the vast majority have a National Insurance Number given when they reach 16 or live in the UK and have the right to work. In some countries it is very difficult to ascertain their Citizenship (e.g.Myanmar). It is also quite difficult for wives of UK Citizens to obtain British Citizenship (deliberately in my opinion).
          When asked about nationality, I reply that I am British, however most Scots would reply Scottish.😉

          Best regards

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      “Sinhala Buddhists are nationalistic and patriotic because Sri Lanka belongs to INDIGENOUS Sinhala Buddhists, but Tamils have no point being nationalistic in Sri Lanka because they belong to Tamil Nadu.”

      Do you think Rajapaksa are patriots???????

      If they are so patriotic, can they steal the state/land anyway? If not the Rajapaksas, who else looted this country? 78% of the debt owed to debtors was due to total ignorant mismanagement and wasted two terms of MR.
      Do you have defensible arguments based on facts?

      Whoever you could be, we the srilankens should not wish you the kind of reptiles be bred on this land further. We should crush their heads in bud level.
      .
      All those born on this land and who later became citizens of Sri Lanka should be treated equally. It is their land, not of only Sinhalese or other racists.

      The bottom line is this, we want Tony or similar ignorant uncultured rascals out of Sri Lanka.
      We should impose and implemen harshert new laws against public racial statements as is the case in Europe.
      They have nothing but to create further divisions in this nation that has fought and conquered again and again. They should all be hanged by their balls, if not today when ?

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    Jehan
    “The newly elected ITAK leader’s initial pronouncements suggest a hardline stand based on Tamil nationalism. “

    Shritharan was asked ” There is a perception that the TNA is going to limit itself to the 13th Amendment. What is your position on this as the new leader of the party?”

    This is his reply ” I have made it very clear through many interviews and forums that the 13th Amendment is not a political solution for the Tamil people. As far as the political aspirations of our Tamil people are concerned, it is our opinion that a solution reached within the ‘Unitary State’ will not fulfill those aspirations. Our journey is towards a federal solution. Accordingly, we incorporated this aspect into our party’s policy. Therefore, the 13th Amendment has so far not been a political solution for our people. Many of the provisions of the 13th Amendment have been removed by the Government of Sri Lanka. None of us think that a major solution can be achieved by using the term 13th Amendment over and over again.

    https://www.tamilguardian.com/content/tamil-nationalism-must-begin-graves-eelam-fighters-shritharans-exclusive-interview

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      Anpu
      Before you proceed further have you sorted out the issue of which areas to be allocated for Tamil speaking people who practise Hindu as their religion and those who practise Islam as their religion?
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      Soma

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        He he – Good one.
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        Racist white Americans did this to the Blacks. It was called Red Lining. Which blacks vehemently fought against.

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        Soma,
        According to ITAK constitution (original was in Tamil. this is online translation)
        “The minority nationalities living in the self-governing state in the Tamil homeland and their religious and linguistic rights will be fully guaranteed.”

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          Anpu
          I don’t see any indication that they have agreed.

          Soma

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          How does this address issues facing the minorities living in large concentrations outside the ‘homeland’?

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            He he he …

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        You forgot all manner of Christians

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    Jehan Perera writes “It came into being, less because the Sri Lankan government leaders believed in it, than due to severe Indian pressure on the government at that time”.
Nither the Sinhalese leaders, nor the Tamil leaders believed in it. But NGO people like Jehan have supproted it.
    “The provincial council system has never reached its full potential unlike in India, where this same system albeit on a much larger scale has blossomed to make India one of the great economic powers in the world in which there is unity in diversity”.
    This is sheer nonsense, there are continual communal riots in many Indian states. Minority rights in these states, as well as low caste rights in ALL states, and also women’s rights are ignored and rapitsts are rarely punished. UNder Narendra Modi Hindu Supremist and Cast-supremist violence has thrived. The most recent violence is in Manipur state when pillage and buring of minorities continued unabashed for three months while the Center igone the clashes among Meitei, Naga and kuki people. Racism in Assam and other North-Eastern states has become endemic and every week a few people get killed, and many are injured. No body even reports them any more.

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      Yes. If anyone thinf a Tamil Federal State is a panacea for all the woes they are sadly – mistaken.

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        Ruchira

        “If anyone thinf a Tamil Federal State is a panacea for all the woes they are sadly – mistaken.”

        Okay if it is not what do you suggest a better course of action?
        Maybe Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism, Nazism, Fascism, Peronism, Capitalism, Socialism, Corporatism, Totalitarianism ……

        Sinhala/Buddhism did not deliver for the last 75 years. Therefore why not try Federalism for a change, or even Liberalism, for Sinhala and Tamil speaking people?

        Under the present system the people have to seek permission from Colombo to go to toilet, sleep with wife or partner when where how or how many times and , ……… smoke Havana or local Cigarettes, …… refined drugs from …..

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          Native – “Sinhala/Buddhism did not deliver for the last 75 years.”
          .
          With all due respect Sinhala/Buddhism couldn’t have delivered anything as they are mere identities given to groups of people based on ethnicity and religion respectively.
          .
          It is the leaders that are responsible for not delivering for the past 75 years. That’s why we need to get rid of them. Your “Sinhala/ Buddhism” refers to a non entity. One needs to hold those that had the power to deliver but didn’t accountable.

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            Ruchira,
            “Sinhala/Buddhism couldn’t have delivered anything as they are mere identities given to groups of people”
            Yes, but what happens when this very same group is proclaimed to be the only group that can rule the country? Are you pretending that the Mahanayakas have openly rejected anyone else? Can even a Sinhala Christian aspire to be President?
            Is it any wonder that there is no progress? How can there be when the pool is limited to a bunch of mediocrities requiring approval from a coterie of clerical mediocrities?
            Democracy my foot.

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              OC – and it is you who keep suggesting we protect the status quo by electing the same lot, not me.
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              I wonder how is that going to help?
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              I personally have nothing against a Christian or a hindu or a muslim becoming the president or the prime minister of the country and there are plenty of people like me.
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              You shouldn’t project the values of your generation to others, particularly the younger ones.
              .
              That said there are untold unknown stories how the Sinhalese, Buddhists especially, get discriminated or harrassed or even worse things done to, by the so called minorities of the country including the Christians. Some of which are quite appalling.
              .
              A day will come such stories will be told dispelling the myth that Sinhala Buddhist majority is tyrannical and are oppressing minorities. And when that happens I do not know what the Sinhalese Buddhists would decide to do. To say the least it would legitimize Sri Lanka being a Sinhala Buddhist nation. Bye bye secularism. Bye bye federalism.

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          Dear Native,

          They call it sinhala-buddhsm but they practise it as “Sinhala-Jainism, Sinhala-Barbarism, Sinhala-Fascistism, Sinhala-Kollaisma, Sinhala-Rastiadu and other Sinhala-Northernism, Sinhala-Swatism, so the mindset should be fed with real buddhistic thoughts, is not that so ? But shaved-head uncles wait until male and female prostitution be legalized so that their hidden games can easily be practised….. is not that not the truths about SO CALLED temple living hypocrites ?
          They are tied to amisapujawa than any-dharma as LB preached it. So how can their minds be cleaned >?

          Looking back, Madimulana’s brutes and his men are still committing Sinhalese brutality.

          Rajapaksa-Tirisannu knows very well that the majority of slaves still respect “their scarf”, “mustache”. Study carefully how uncomfortable Namal Baby felt at Sanath Nishantha’s funeral.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zab0bTw_UBs
          However, Punnaku-Bona seemed to have been ordered to do so by his brutal father, misleading the majority of voters. Fooling the slaves is their motto of the life. People emulate it like mad-dogs. So the need of the hour is to replace their thinking with facts. Can this ever be possible in that psyche ?

          To be honest, I got to know real Buddhists in Europe and California. You can talk to them, since they focus on the “DHARAMA”. I am proud of them and I respect them as Buddhists.

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    Fedaralism involves disparate groups (ethnic, religious or what ever) coming together and working together. This requires TRUST among the parties planning confederate. In Sri Lanka, the actions of the leaders have NOT been directed to building trust. The very first “shrine” that the new leader of the TNA has gone to is a Maaveer memorial, and then he has visited several Hindu Kovils. This ultra-ethnocentric, ultra-orthodox religious approach at one with the extreme Hinduthva advocates of India does not create trust even within the Tamil community. How can Tamil Christians, or Tamil speaking Moslems find any cohesion with this approach? It is narrow, frightining and back-ward looking. Where is the Olive Branch to the minority communities (Sinhalese, Moslems etc., Non-Hindu groups, lower caste groups, even women) who are expected to live in the federated part of the Tamil state? How can they trust a leader whose lieutinets are closely associated with the Indian Branch of the extreme Hinduthva movement recently set up in SriLanka? Does the new TNA leader believe that he can extract Federalism from the majority Sinhalese (or the Muslims) by poorja to Prabhakaran? These minorities were evicted from the Jaffna Peninsula at gun point by Prabhakaran’s agents.

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      Yes. Funny how people want a Tamil Federal State inside a secular Sri Lanka.

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        Ruchira

        “Funny how people want a Tamil Federal State inside a secular Sri Lanka.”

        Then laugh.

        “a secular Sri Lanka”

        Here is Secularism for you:

        “Secularism is a political principle that aims to guarantee citizens the right to freedom of ‘conscience and religion’, as spelled out in international human rights documents… [and as such] entails the existence of a political space separate from and independent of religions for the purpose of negotiating common issues and areas of concern, so that the social and political needs of all religious and irreligious members of society may be met.”
        https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/global-extremes/secularism-defined-a-tale-of-two-courts/

        You better read the constitution:
        CHAPTER II
        BUDDHISM
        9. The Republic of Sri Lanka shall give to Buddhism
        the foremost place and accordingly it shall be the duty of
        the State to protect and foster the Buddha Sasana, while
        assuring to all religions the rights granted by Articles 10
        and 14(1)(e).
        https://www.parliament.lk/files/pdf/constitution.pdf

        Hardline Sri Lanka monk calls for Buddhist Sinhalese government
        By Shihar Aneez and Aditi Shah
        July 7, 20195:39 PM GMT+1Updated 5 years ago
        https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN1U206O/

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          Native – Don’t get your knickers twisted. That’s not what I meant.

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            Ruchira

            “Native – Don’t get your knickers twisted.”

            It is because a few in this forum want to just type without understanding the issues, facts, definitions, …… history, …
            _
            “That’s not what I meant.”

            What exactly did you mean?

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              Native – ain’t gonna spoon feed you. You are a grown man. I presume. Go figure.

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                Ruchira

                “… ain’t gonna spoon feed you.”

                Please try as I am bit thick.

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                  NV – I am just pointing out the contradictory nature of the two. Not suggesting anything you think I am suggesting.

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              Dear NV,
              .
              “It is because a few in this forum want to just type without understanding the issues, facts, definitions, …… history, “

              I totally agree with you. Same goes for secularism, true-Buddhism, Sri Lankan politics, democracy, NPP or anything else. Most of them add their opinions without thinking twice.

              They don’t read properly, but jump to add their feelings.

              Sinhala-Buddhism is only on the cover, but both monks (head-shaved thugs) and lay people behave like a headless chicken.

              This is true not only in Sri Lanka but also in the developed world. In America than in other developed countries. But it affects currently on srilanka hugely, as an economically bankrupted nation.
              .
              It’s also comparable to how Republicans in some states exercise their “white supremacy” over Democratic thought. However, their conditioned mindset interprets it as “democracy” and “speech feeding”.

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                leelagemalli

                Thanks

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                  NV – I see that you two bond pretty well.

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                    what is wrong with that ?
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                    NV and OC are often fact-based.
                    And they provide us with sources for their information. Anyone can add sarcasm because of freedom of speech, but we’re not here to waste our time.

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        Ruchira

        “If anyone thinf a Tamil Federal State is a panacea for all the woes they are sadly – mistaken.”

        Okay if it is not what do you suggest a better course of action?
        Maybe Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism, Nazism, Fascism, Peronism, Capitalism, Socialism, Corporatism, Totalitarianism ……

        Sinhala/Buddhism did not deliver for the last 75 years. Therefore why not try Federalism for a change, or even Liberalism, for Sinhala and Tamil speaking people?

        Under the present system the people have to seek permission from Colombo to go to toilet, sleep with wife or partner when where how or how many times and , ……… smoke Havana or local Cigarettes, …… refined drugs from …..

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          Native, were you saving all your energy for such occasions???? Aren’t we lucky to have so many Patriots and intellectuals, ready and willing to save our bankrupt, failed Lanka.

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            Just mentioning the word ” NATIONALISM ” alone is good enough to bring out those SillyLankan hypocrites and racists, crawling out of their closets.

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          Native – I thought I already responded to this. But I can’t find my comment. Did you make the same post twice?

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          “Sinhala/Buddhism did not deliver for the last 75 years.”

          Actually it has been delivering for 2500 years.

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            ““Sinhala/Buddhism did not deliver for the last 75 years.”
            Actually it has been delivering for 2500 years.

            By now ( after 2500 years of multiplying), how many cups are roaming around in the Wild Life Sanctuary, SinhalaLE Lankave? It should not be less than, by any count, below 6.9millions isn’t it. Still I guess the correct number might be (6.9M-1) because one ran out of the presidential Palace in July 2022. Under Sinhala Buddhist Agama, running cups are counted as jackals. Accordingly, I hear, the Kandy Ayatollahs de-caste him from Sinhala Buddhism and regrouped him with Afghani donkeys.

            Isn’t it, even if Junius was so great, then the Hitler has negated all of that up?
            “It is too sad man, your boss has flown 17 trips to Western capitals in 18 months with a begging bowl because guys like you did the thing to the country. It is pathetic to see you still wallowing in the Mahavamsa fibs, not being able to get out of it. Come on Man, it is the 21st century now, No longer need for you to walk around with the animal brain. If you approach Elon Musk, he will put an AI chip instead of the heavy gray clay that is keeping you handicapped .

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              Who was begging at Mullivaikkal? Your heroes came with white flags and were given full “paan” treatment. Paan for the fish in the lagoon. I am not a fan of violence, I prefer diplomacy at all costs. But we are ready to do it again if the need arises. After losing the war, your best option is to admit defeat and negotiate from there. You mention Hitler, yes, Germans were brutalized after the war. Women, men, old, young. Especially in the East, the Soviets brainwashed those people for 41 years. Gotha did not steal your land or limit your mobility, so why are you complaining.

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                Lester

                “I am not a fan of violence, …”

                You let your politico, military, and saffronista leaders to do it for you.

                “Gotha did not steal your land or limit your mobility, so why are you complaining.”

                Okay, are you sure Gota didn’t steal anything from people? Let us start with dignity of the people, effectively banning the right of farmers being farmers, people’s confidence, … MIG deal, ……

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                “Who was begging at Mullivaikkal? “
                It’s a question for you to answer, you stayed out of that part, but asking the question. The case against the LTTE is, as per the complaint submitted by Hitler King and Old Rowdy King, that leader Pirapaharan did not allow the Tamils to cross to move to non-war zone. The no fire zone where people were standing was the true fire zone, so people wanted to get out of the no fire zone. Your war crime is firing into the internationally negotiated no fire zone.
                It is Lion pup Vijaya started to rape Tamil Queen Quveni and robbing Tamils lands in Ceylon. So, as you say Hitler is not the ultimate thief of Tamils land. He stole only Mullaitivu. But there is no point in you saying that to me. You are still residing at the Mahavamsa cesspool. Tell it to the contemporary Sinhala Historians, who now have accepted the fact that it was Tamils who were the main settlers in Ceylon before 2000 years ago. When the Tamil Hindu King Kaimugan went to war with the other Tamil Buddhist King who ruled Anuradhapura for 44 years, it was his tribes’ chieftains he had to subdue before he proceeded. As I said earlier, if you have the gray matter, now you will be clear of what all this means.

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                “But we are ready to do it again if the need arises.”
                This is what people say as if it is a dog, then its mouth barks, but the tail wags. So, now what made your boss send the Rapist Navy to fight against rebels who are fighting to support the people (Palestinians) you claim as your friends? It was America and India who won the war for you and now they are ordering you to fight for Israel, so you have become more obedient than a dog. If it’s something else, explain it to me please. Leader Pirapaharan made you spend $400B. Now you are indebted to $85 B. Again, it was America who forced the Chinese banker from suing you at their court. Otherwise, if any one of your bosses go to America, the Chinese Banker can have them put in prison until the loan is fully paid, because that loan got the personal guarantee from that time Central Bank governor. It is in the middle of all these your boss went to Oxford students about colonial time wars and conduct of Europeans. First dig deep and bury Mahavamsa, and then properly study the artifacts unearthed in Tissamaharama, Kanthar Oodi…

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            If true Buddhism had guided them, the likes of Lester and Tony Ho would not have emerged from the sinhala race. These two examples are more than enough to see it clearly.

            If you compare Lester with late Sanath Nishantha, who died in a car accident but was a donkey-like slave to the MEDAMULANA beasts of prey, I see no difference in behavior.

            In a televised interview, Sanath Nishantha had added that he would kill “50 or more people” if he or his godfather of crime (Mahendra Rajaksha) were harmed on Boxing Day.
            In a civilized country the kind of statements could rabblerouse the authorities and nation, and could have locked him up and warned him. Unfortunately, our hell of the country, filled with RAJAPAKSHE-BIASED police and courts did not even utter it. .. why ? Ranil is the leader of the care taker govt. but all is being controlled by MEDAMULANISM. The day these men would be hanged, the day of the beginning of a new era…. I have no hopes, ….. NPP would not have the substance to do it, since they are far from realizing the ” average conditioned mindset”.

            It is known that Lester is a man living in the United Kingdom but his thoughts and mind are very much biased towards Rajapakseism, and every time he collects his thoughts all other doctrines are out of his mind.

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            Lester

            “Actually it has been delivering for 2500 years.”

            I am sorry it has not arrived yet.

            The phrase Sinhala/Buddhism was coined and popularised by the Public Racist Aryan Anagarika Homeless Dharmapala in the early 20th century. According to scholars it never existed before.

            If indeed it has been delivering, delivering what?

            Killing, more killing, rape, riots, destruction of homes and businesses, library, schools, temples, crooks, murderers, war criminals, Tax dodgers, ……… racists, …….

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        Ruchira,
        “people want a Tamil Federal State INSIDE a SECULAR Sri Lanka.”!!??
        When the “Kalapathara” or ‘Chronicle’ called fondly by one and all, so called ‘Erudite NATIVES’ as the CONSTITUTION/BASIC LAW of Sri Lanka, could “AFFORD Buddhism out of all 4 major religions in this DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST Republic THE FOREMOST Place”!!!??? WHY?? Secularism!!!??? MY FOOT!!! OOUCH!!??
        If so, how come it qualifies to be classified as “SECULAR SRI LANKA”???
        OR IS IT AGAIN A MISNOMER LIKE ‘THE HUMANITARIAN WAR’, WAGED TO “LIBERATE TAMILS”!? “HOODWINCK THE MASSES”, misleading the Chinese, Indians, EU, The UK, USA, UNO, et all!? NICE PATRIOTIC DISPLAY!!!???

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          Mahila – You should scroll up and see the answer I gave to Vedda above.
          .
          “….misleading the Chinese, Indians, EU, The UK, USA, UNO, et all!?”
          .
          You must be joking!
          .
          Mislead the the Chinese, Indians, EU, The UK, USA, UNO, et all!?
          .
          They got the Rajapakses to do the dirty work – which Gota, the American citizen did in style, even Solheim couldn’t do much even if it is said to have that he made a desperate last minute attempt to spare your hero’s life.
          .
          It was your hero Prabakaran that wanted to Liberate Tamils and in the process killed all the Tamil leaders – the better ones ofcourse. Leaving the likes of Sumanthiran alive.

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            I have read thoughtful comments of Mahila on this forum. I also have read stupid prevarications of Ruchira. Having studied them closely, I feel Ruchira doesn’t seem to have basic knowledge about a lot of things. The main course should be tanakola. Many people do not understand what is being said. A very refined type of people that were caught by Rajapakshe doctrine. All I can say is get well soon.
            .
            “It was your hero Prabhakaran who wanted to free the Tamil people. In the process, he killed all the Tamil leaders – indeed the better ones. Leave the likes of Sumanthiran alive.”

            What is Sumanthiran’s fault? He is one of the few good Tamil politicians we have today. As a lawyer he is very good professional. I heard former MP, SJB femal vocal, Hirunika the manner how she described Sumanthiran.
            I am not a fan of SHAN but Sumanthiran can be a good lead for entire country. THis has nothing to do with me being a supporter to KOTIYAs.
            .
            Anyone who disagrees is branded as a supporter of Prabhakaran.How narrow minded these peoples have turned out to be ?

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        Basic Understanding of Concepts is essential for constructive debate!??

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          So now you want constructive debate?
          .
          Since when is this?
          .
          After waging war for close to 30 years, disrupting and destroying our lives, livelihoods and loved ones, well supported by your cousins in India and the friends in the Western world; and then going on a rampage of accussations that Sinhala Buddhists are Chauvnists and racists. Insulting them. Name calling them. Distoring their history. Resorting to illegal measures to sabotage them and their lives, funded by moneys you have raised around the world by questionable means, if not down right illegal ones, all the while telling the world that Sinhalese are trying to annihilate you and committing genocide.
          .
          Suddenly you want constructive debate….?
          .
          You think we Sinhalese should be at your disposal to oblige whenever you want to have constructive debates? And at the recieving end of your abuse and violence at other times?
          .
          May be you guys should get your act together and first learn to behave. Treat people decently. Operate within the boundaries of law. Act and talk in a civilized manner. Then they might listen to what you have to say and even engage in some constructive debate that you now suddenly seek.

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            Remember this, you can’t fool all the people all the time. An every dog has its day. Yours’ will be judged based on what they did on those days. I can tell you that they amount to nothing good, decent, civilized or legal.
            .
            Also remember, we won’t stop. Neither your cousins in India nor the friends in the West, the Europe, the US included, ain’t going to stop us. We will hunt down to the very last of your dogs that has caused misery to us, our kith, kin and the loved ones, and this island. They will be brough to justice in every possible mean of justice! So make sure your act is clean.
            .
            Also note that you won’t be getting any federal shit anywhere on this island. You can learn to live peacefully with the rest of us within the boundaries of law in a civilized manner OR depart to any country that you could find refuge in. We won’t give a fuck. We will make sure neither anyone else either – once we reveal to the world the true nature of Thamizh, South Indian, Sri Lankan or otherwise.
            .
            Consider this a PSA.
            .
            Have a good day!

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      Best thing if one wants to destroy Tamils is to give them a separate federal state in the north and east of Sri Lanka! They will bring about their own demise with their separatist attitude.

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        Ruchira

        “They will bring about their own demise with their separatist attitude.”

        Maybe maybe not.
        However if experience is anything to go by you half right, it applies to both stupid people, ….. Even without Federal system we have seen how speedily the majoritarian system had destroyed this country.

        Now the country’s former president is in hiding, the current one going around the world with a begging bowl, ….. Bangladesh which was born only in 1971 has to help out this Sinhala/Buddhist country.

        Those who profited in the past 30 or 40 years from creative accounting, bribe giving and taking, under paid tax, …… commissions, ….. would have been laughing all the way to the banks, including foreign ones as well.

        Don’t tell me mere federalism would cause destruction, rather it is the gene that cause self destruction among both Tamil and Sinhala speaking people which work splendidly.

        In the past 75 years the island has gone through destruction. What caused it given that there is no Federal system in place in this island.

        Think about it, in fact it is your self destructive stupid gene.

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          Native – “speedily the majoritarian system had destroyed this country.”
          .
          Majoritarian system? The stupid short sighted leaders caused the downfall of the country. Nothing to with majoritarianism. Democracy is about majoritarianism.
          .
          You think federal state is going to elimiate majoritarianism? It is going to create Tamil majoritarianism within a part of the country.
          .
          There’s no escape from majoritarianism unless you want the minorities to seize power by force.

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            Ruchira,

            Talk about ironic. Native does not understand majoritarianism from a religious point of view because (as I presume) he has only lived among Sinhalese, who don’t discriminate in such a way. He doesn’t understand that caste system creates another hierarchy and therefore another form of majoritarianism. In my case, I have had Indian Hindu co-workers (IT sector). Regardless of how much they earn, or where they live, they ONLY marry within their caste. Caste is so important, they don’t waste time with “dating.” 100% of the marriages are arranged marriages. That is their belief system and we should respect it. However, I have been to India and seen how this kind of caste business plays out at the level of social welfare. It’s a dirty business if you’re at the bottom. Especially with 1 billion plus people. The only way out, other than emigration, is an exam called JEE where you compete with the same 1 billion plus to go to a small number of elite schools.

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              Lester – I agree. Native is a little disillusioned. Been to India few times but never got the chance to get exposed to much of their societal ways. What struck me in my first visit was how, when you walk few yards down a by lane from a highway in Delhi, you find little kids living in huts on the either side of the lane, defeacating on the pavements of the newly paved roads. This is not in some remote part of India but right in the middle of Delhi. Anyway Yes the caste system is pretty deep rooted and infact they have exported it to the US too. I was told by an Indian in the US how the Hindu hardliners hoodwinked the governor of California not to enact laws prohibiting cast discrimination which is prevalent among hindus in california. These are the values our Sri Lankan Tamil brethren look upto while calling Sinhala Buddhists chauvnists and racists! It’s time somebody point them out who the real racists and casteists are!

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                R
                That is not correct. Nobody here is following an ‘Indian model’ of any kind.
                There are Hindu fanatics and anti-Muslim hate mongers who look up to the BJP regime. Let not read too much meaning into that.
                *
                India has its problems and we have ours.
                Caste is a burden of Indian society. It persists because production relations in the rural sector is still caste based in many parts of India.
                Urbanization has made an impact, but not as good as one wants.
                *
                Are we free of it? Let us ask ourselves how free we are of caste considerations in not just social matters but even business and professional matters, where choices are guided by caste.
                Sinhala Buddhists had every reason to shun caste, because Buddhism is explicitly opposed to the caste system.
                *
                India as we know today a creation of the British Empire. Cultural commons are not adequate to bring people together. It was the independence struggle that brought Indian nationalities together.
                It should be much easier for this island to be united. But that has not happened.
                We always blame the other for all wrongs. There should be a better approach to national unity.

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                  SJ , 💯🙏

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                  SJ – “There should be a better approach to national unity.”
                  .
                  – Yeah.
                  .
                  I’m merely responding to the uncivilized Tamil terrorists. Somebody should put them where they belong. If you guys aren’t doing it we the Sinhalese will have to. The same way we did away with the LTTE. Their ghosts too will be dealt with. Don’t cry some bull shit human rights once we start it. See what’s going in Palastine. Nobody gives a flying f*ck!

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                ” These are the values our Sri Lankan Tamil brethren look upto while calling Sinhala Buddhists chauvnists and racists! “

                Why are you flip flopping? Aren’t you and the Kandy Ayatollahs the Delhi Aryans? Those who are kept in the Delhi Taravai are lower caste Dravidian, oppressed by Aryans when they invaded Indus Valley. Why are you again “Inventing a new Indian Mahavamsa Chronicle” in that too? You are so stupidly connecting the Californian, Aryans, North Indians to Tamils?
                Is your brain networked to think anything straightforwardly or logically?
                For your information, it was only the Dravidian who invented the toilets and drainage systems to use in their multi story downtown dwelling facilities, 6000 years ago. We are proud of having used toilets as the first race until barbarians invaded us and oppressed us.

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                  to stop bold.

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              Lester,
              “as I presume) he has only lived among Sinhalese, who don’t discriminate in such a way.”
              Why then are there several Mahanayakas for one religion? Why is there an FB page called “The Karawe of SriLanka”? Why do marriage proposals specify caste and religion?
              When will you stop lying ?
              The caste system is alive and well among Sinhalese too. But they are better at hiding it, just the same way they hide paedophile monks.

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                “The caste system is alive and well among Sinhalese too. But they are better at hiding it”

                You have contradicted yourself. People who practice caste don’t hide it. In India, it is written in their last name. Low-castes cannot enter certain temples. People choose their circle of friends based on caste. At the political level, parties are all caste-based. No comparison whatsoever to politics in Southern Sri Lanka. Maybe a disproportionate number of “Govigama” entered politics, but this due to them owning land during British times. In any case, there are large numbers of Christians active in SL politics. There is no party similar to BJP.

                The caste system in India is 3000 years old, you cannot compare it to a newspaper ad by some elderly Kandyan.

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                  Lester,
                  “People who practice caste don’t hide it.”
                  Why is there an FB page about it? Why are there four Mahanayakas? Why don’t you read last Sunday’s matrimonials?
                  There may be Christians active in politics Sanath Nishantha was one. But even he wouldn’t have run for President.
                  Never heard of a Southern caste-based party? Try the JVP.
                  I live here I know my country better than someone preaching from the West.

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                    Old Codger,

                    FB is a social media platform, it exists to provide entertainment, not impart fact.

                    I don’t need to look at matrimonials. I have SB acquaintances in various countries who intermarried people of other races, nationalities, and religions. Whereas Hindus to this day are using horoscopes to match with the person of the “right” caste. Meaning they will only marry another Hindu, usually from the same region, based on the horoscope.

                    “But even he wouldn’t have run for President.”

                    Anglican Ranil is the President. Aragalaya was ready to burn the country down to make it happen.

                    “Never heard of a Southern caste-based party? Try the JVP.”

                    Rubbish. You are saying Wijeweera subscribed to some caste ideal, which is false.

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            Ruchira

            “Democracy is about majoritarianism.”

            Have you ever come across what is meant by “Tyranny of the Majority”?
            I am sure you haven’t.
            Go read, find out then type.
            I can wait.

            The majoritarian system helped elect the most abhorrent representatives and leaders.

            “There’s no escape from majoritarianism unless you want the minorities to seize power by force.”

            How could the minority seize power when Hindians have no appetite for one more state run by another set of stupid people. As far as Hindians are concerned Sri Lanka is the Sinhala state of Hindia and form part of its Akhand Bharat.

            You should relinquish all your greater Sri Lanka ambition if you want to be fed and clothed by Hindia, avoiding starvation and death.

            Be humble to Hindians, as in the Hindia will not let you down. Even Hindian External Affairs Minister has been promoting Sri Lanka tourism in Hindia. Watch:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk1LwoQBeIA&t=2907s

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          Native,

          He’s right. They will destroy themselves. Have you been to India? Caste system destroys the soul like nothing else. Of course there are Tamil Christians, but they also endure discriminate, as Hoole has eloquently written here.

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            Lester,
            When have you been to India? 1980 probably?
            Caste system or not, it is a much more livable place than here. They think onions are too expensive at 20 rupees a kg. You gan get an apartment in Bangalore for 15000 pm.
            Of course a superior European resident wouldn’t understand that.
            Stop creating fake facts to prove your prejudices.

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            Have you asked Hoole about caste among Christians?

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      Friend, where did you learn your Federalism from? UOJ Sadampi’s Mechanical Ma O Ism class? Federalism is not about minorities. It is a technique or methodology to deal with the majority community. It was Christian Solomon West Ridgeway Dias’ proposal in 1929-1930 for Ceylon and then it was the Christian Samuel John Chellanayagam who proposed it to Tamil Eelam. Federalism is only a technique proposed by Majority Sinhala Buddhists and followed by Tamil Hindus. Don’t foolishly goof about federalism.

      For Ex: If Langkang is going to be Sinhala Only then Tamil Eelam counterpart is Tamil only. If Langkang goes to Buddhism only by section 11 of the constitution, then Tamil Eelam will be Hindutva only. If Langkang brings 6A to remove Tamil MPs from parliament, Tamil brings their 6A and removes all the Sinhala Buddhist MPs from their parliament. If Langkang borrows from China and bankrupt the Sinhala Buddhists, Tamil Eelam borrows from America and bankrupt themselves. If Langkang leaders deposit their loot in the Bank of Dubai, Eelam leaders deposit it in the Bank of Israel. If Langkang kills 165,000 orphaned Tamils saying it was only a Humanitarian Rescue Mission with zero casualty, then Tamils kill 165000 Sinhala Buddhists and tell that it was a zero-casualty operation. (Your brain explains why you couldn’t stop when Old Rowdy pulled off all of your Amude and depositing in his accounts)

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      “Fedaralism involves disparate groups (ethnic, religious or what ever) coming together and working together. “
      Please look at the federal states on the world. How many have brought together the seriously disparate groups?

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      Looks like there is now a very concerted effort by the Chingkalla state and its politicians and elite using Thamizh quislings and others Chingkallams pretending to be Thamizh, to bring a rift between the Thamizh Christians and Hindu, just like the way they successfully created a rift between the Muslim Thamizh and the rest of the Thamizh. Also create caste and regional divisions amongst Thamizh so they will be all divided and ultimately be destroyed. On the other hand, they want to unite all Chingkllams irrespective of region, caste and religion. Good try and I can see through your game. Constantly now coming here and posting under various identities, as a Christian Thamizh,your anti Hindu messages, to deliberately create a rift. I can see through your game. 99% of the Christian and Hindu Thamizh are not bothered about this and most Thamizh Christians, other than die hard religious fanatics. acknowledge and respect the essentially Saivite Hindu nature of the Thamizh people and culture and that even their own ancestors were Hindus. I am a Protestant Christian myself and I represent 95% of the Thamizh Christians and not you, if you really are one. Mr. Sebastian or whoever you are, with an agenda.

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        Pandi Kutti
        Is there any way to mend the “rift between the Muslim Thamizh and the rest of the Thamizh”.? Isn’t that a prerequisite for any devolution?

        Soma

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        PK
        Look at the claim a little above these two comments that federalism is a Christian conspiracy?

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      The only two serious suggestions were by SWRDB who wanted three, one for Kandyan Sinhalese, one for Low Country Sinhalese and one for Tamils. The proposal was electoral politically driven.
      Leonard Woolf had some vision and proposed something on ethnic lines. But politics has moved on.
      What is needed is autonomy and devolution of power at several levels.
      The FP is dead duck and so is its federalism.

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        The proposals by SWRD as well as by SJV for federalism were mere unsuccessful proposals because what they proposed was not federalism. SJV proposed ITAK, “Arasu Kadchi“, a from of Eelam. Banda abandoned federalism because he saw that low-country and Udarata were ephemeral entities.
        The countries that achieved federalism started as disparate entities. For example, Canada when its parts (now provinces) federated in 1857, with New Foundland coming in much more rcently. Germany was federated under Bismark, when Bavaria, Saxony, Westphalia etc joined together to confederate. The same is true of Switzerland, when small cantons that were seperate joined together.
        In Sri Lanka we have an attempt to devolve power, rather than confederate power isolated in small states to form a large unit. When the EU was formed that to was a federation of independent European states with disparate countries that fought wars (Germany, France, UK) came together. Then with Brexit UK left the Federation due to increasing distrust of Brussels.

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          So, the first essential ingredient is TRUST AMONG THE FEDERATING ENTITIES.
          The North does not trust the south and vise versa, even for 13 A.
          So, forget about federalism.
          I myself, as a Tamil Christian, find it very difficult to trust the backward-looking mindset of the new TNA leadership which is making the same noises as in the 1970s. If Amirthalingam had lived, he and JRJ might have forged a decent solution for the Tamils. But the TULF leaders did not realize that their confrontational narrative of Vaddukkoddei will morf into violent forces that will assasinate them and hijack their program. The new TNA might not succeed in going that far, but it will move us back to the Kovils, when, in the 21st century our young people should be looking to AI, computer science, nanotechnology etc. But we all know what has happened to Jaffna University, Jaffna youth and their ultra-Hinduthva leaders.

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            Whoever you are, or whatever you call yourself, you are definitely here with one agenda. Identifying yourself as an aggrieved Christian Thamizh with lots of imagined grouses against Hindu Thamizh that no one else has heard of and have recently started to post the same story under various identities the same bullshit. not only here but on almost every column on this forum, with regards to Hindu Thamizh discriminating Christian Thamizh. Strange no other Christian Thamizh is complaining about this other than you and your various identities. You must be either some nut case which I doubt but someone diabolical with an agenda to deliberately create a rift between the Christian and Hindu Thamizh,to benefit the Chingkalla rulers.

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              Using your own words, as a Christian Thamizh I can call your bluff and your diabolical agenda and do not trust you, what you are cunningly trying to advocate is Christian Thamizh like the Muslim Thamizh should not vote for the TNA but create their own parties on the basis of religion and further divide the Thamizh. Christian Thamizh like Chelvanayagam will be turning in their graves. You are no well-wisher of any Thamizh Christian or Hindu but a want them all to be destroyed and are cunningly using religion as a tool. I doubt if you are even a Thamizh. We all know the Chingkallams and the Sri Lankan state are now trying to divide the Thamizh further on the basis of religion and our using all sorts of methods and Thamizh quislings to deliberately create a rift, so far it has not worked. As crafty racist JR who thwarted the BC pact and orchestrated so many anti Thamizh pogroms, including the burning of the Jaffna library and the 1977 and 1983 riots forging a decent solution with Amirthalingam is the biggest joke. His government that signed the Indo Sri Lankan accord and the all the Chingkalla governments that followed him, including the current one run by his nephew, do not want to implement the Indo Sri Lankan accord and Sec 13 properly itself speaks volumes.

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            “If Amirthalingam had lived, he and JRJ might have forged a decent solution for the Tamils. But the TULF leaders did not realize that their confrontational narrative of Vaddukkoddei will morf into violent forces that will assasinate them and hijack their program.”

            Yes, JRJ had vision that no politician has had since then. He had to waste his energy attending to some useless ethnic issue. Otherwise the country – entire country – was on track for large-scale economic development. And TULF were busy cavorting with terrorists, coddling and encouraging them, who knows why. TULF should share the blame for 1983, they encouraged the killing of 13 policemen.

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              Lester
              “He had to waste his energy attending to some useless ethnic issue. “ Toughest in women leaders, Mrs. Gandhi gave the Katchatheevu free for Siri Ma O.
              Lousy Juniors Richard Moda took her so cheap and meddled with her. Don Stepehn was smart like Evil, so he messed with only Indian Tamils, but Junious made a terrible mistake, messing up with Indra Gandhi. Unless the Khalistan Rebels were not there, she might have dragged Junius by his Amude to Delhi Prison and would have attacked the whole island as the 30th state of India. Thanks to Guru Nanaji, Sikh rebels saved Junius day that time!

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              Lester

              “TULF should share the blame for 1983, they encouraged the killing of 13 policemen.”

              How did they encourage the killing of 13 Policemen?
              Are you saying TULF not only encourage the killing of 13 policemen but also 13 soldiers?

              Did TULF encourage cabinet ministers to burn down entire Jaffna library along with 95,000 rare books and manuscripts, massacre 11 Tamils who were participating in a research conference in Jaffna, encourage 1915, 1958, 1961, 1977, 2013, riots, encourage the killing of 18,000 innocent people in 1971, and another estimated 130,000 (counted only about 60,000) innocent people between 1987 and 1991, …….

              TULF must be a long serving very powerful party!!!

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            SebastianSR

            “So, the first essential ingredient is TRUST AMONG THE FEDERATING ENTITIES.”

            Actually more than TRUST Sri Lankies need brain. Then the ability to see beyond their nose. Third deporting all Kallathonies who arrived here recently (500 BC) and converted to Sinhala/Buddhism and/or Tamil Saivam.

            soma gets priority booking on returning boats.

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          “SJV proposed ITAK, “Arasu Kadchi“, a from of Eelam. “
          Rather unfair.
          He used Federal in English and Tamil Arasu (state, not necessarily a separate state).
          The Tamil wording had more to do with baiting for votes than separatism.

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          “Sri Lanka, we have an attempt to devolve power, rather than confederate power isolated in small states to form a large unit.”
          You are right!!!
          The FORMER is the solution proposed by Majority SINHALESE and TAMILS proposed the LATTER!!??
          Whom are you trying to fool!???
          In the process of that attempt, you fail to realise, THAT YOUR CLOTHES HAVE DISSAPPEARED!!??
          STARK NAKED NUDITY, COURSE OF PREACHING!!!???
          Thanks for arguing the case for the adversary “FREE OF CHARGE” (FOC)!!!

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            Mahila Mahaththaya, long time no see, where had you been all these days ?
            Hope you are keeping well. .. I missed your thoughtful comments.

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        SJ
        Is there any way to find out what percentage of Tamil speaking people scattered across the island desire any form of autonomy?

        Soma

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          If there is a way to find the percentage of the Palestinian people scattered across the Middle East?
          Scattering of a population has little to do with national aspirations.
          Even now the vast majority of Jews are outside Israel.
          The case for autonomy cannot be based purely on demographic data.

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            Course of next century, Palestine would be occupied by less Palestinians/extinct, due to Migration and would you then allude that as solution to the Middle Eastern “Jew/Palestine issue”!!???

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              “Course of next century,”
              Nearly none of us will be around to see that.

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            SJ
            Is there a way to find out what are the national aspirations of Tamil speaking people scattered across the island?
            Are we to take for granted that they are the same articulated by upper caste political elite in Jaffna?
            Are they the same across the religious devide among the Tamil speaking people?

            Soma

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              No different from the national aspirations of any ethnic group that feels discriminated against.

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                S.J
                Denying that there is a problem, as some do, is not a solution.

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                  O.C
                  Expecting a solution to a problem while fighting shy to state it clearly, who and who are affected with the expected solution will not take anyone anywhere.

                  Soma

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                    Soma,
                    Short of doing a “House to House as the NPP doing now”, there is No other way to ascertain that!!?? Importantly, None could find a solution to suit each and every single person in the minority!!!
                    Any way how is this going to help!!!??? We are trying and alternative to the FAMOUS OR INFAMOUS ‘ALL PARTY CONFERENCES’, leading us up the “Garden Path”, to NOWHERE!!??? EXERCISE in FUTILITY and ENOUGH of the “STALLING PROCESS”!!??
                    Best modality, Federal state, N+E (Tamil), Ampara District (Muslim) and Rest (WP. SP, SAB, NWP, NCP, CP, Balance of UVA) AND the CAPITAL Territory in SJP (KOTTE) – MAKING 3 STATES AND 1 TERRITORY!!!???
                    Let the people live wherever they want!!! They will GRAVITATE TO THEIR Place OF CHOICE UNDOUBTEDLY, SURE AS WATER FLOWS FROM THE HILLS TO THE SEA!!??? No forced migration!!! Allow normal dynamics of personal choice decide the movement, which would be gradual, BUT DEFINITELY SENSIBLE!!!?? Like electricity finding least path of Resistance!? 10 years Stabilised!

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    Dear Janaka
    Is it Rise and Fall or Fall and Rise?

    Soma

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