By Latheef Farook –
Latheef Farook
Dramatic political developments are taking place in the Middle East. Few months ago even diplomatic ties between Saudi Arabia and Israel was unthinkable. However the so called enemies have become best of allies today.
Imagine Saudi Arabia, the land of Islam and the rulers claiming to be custodian of two Holy Mosques in Makkah and Madina, joining hands with United States and Israel, the two countries which turned Middle East into a killing field to create Greater Israel, to wage war against Iran.
Now there is only one country which could threaten Israel .That is Iran. Therefore Israel wanted to destroy Iran, in the way it destroyed Iraq, Syria, Libya, Somalia and now Yemen, to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapon.
Saudi ruling family also consider Iran a threat and Israel an ally.
Contrary to the false image, ruling Ibn Saud family, one of the most corrupted and oppressive regimes in this planet, is a tribal family –a system which was abolished by Islam. Their top priority is to ensure the survival of their family, their power and wealth. To ensure this they would join hands with even devil, as they had shown during the past several decades. Islam was ruthlessly exploited to entrench this family rule and loot the country’s wealth.
Thus the Ibn Saud family’s dependence on US and Israel for their survival is not something unexpected. Oil wealth was lavishly invested to ensure this.
The US. Israel and Saudi war mongers are aware that a war with Iran will drag in Iranian supported Lebanon’s Hezbollah. Thus the need to trigger a political crisis in Lebanon involving Hezbollah to weaken Iran as a prelude to war.
During the past few weeks drum beat of war in the Middle East has risen to a fever-pitch. Saudi Arabia has provoked both an internal domestic and a foreign crisis to permit Salman to realize his grandiose vision to dominate the Middle East.
As part of this conspiracy Saudi summoned Lebanese Prime Minister Saad Hariri, the day after he hosted Ali Akbar Velayati, senior foreign policy advisor to Ayatollah Khamenei. In Saudi Arabia Hariri told a Saudi TV audience that he was quitting his job due to “death threats” against him.
Coverage of Hariri’s statement noted that he spoke haltingly into the camera and looked off-camera several times, indicating that the statement may have been written for him and that he may have delivered it under duress.
Lebanese media reported that on November that Hariri had been summoned to Saudi Arabia, against all expectations. He was placed under house arrest upon his arrival with limited and controlled access to his cell phone, and he was separated from his wife and children. Some sources claim that Hariri’s wife and children are currently banned from leaving Saudi Arabia until further notice to prevent any “change of heart” from the “former” prime minister after he returns to Beirut. The resignation speech was delivered in hand by Thamer al-Sabhane himself, a Saudi diplomat known for his anti-Shia tweets.
However, things are already backfiring in Lebanon with both Sunnis and Shiite openly declaring their desire to avoid any clash. Hariri’s party even praised Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah, calling him a “responsible man” who placed above all the country’s “national interest,” a first in more than 10 years.
Internally, Salman suddenly created an anti-corruption commission and arrested some of the highest level royal princes in the kingdom, including at least four sitting ministers and the son of former king Fahd. The most well-known name on the list, and one of the world’s richest men, was Saudi Prince Al waleed bin Talal who opposed Salman becoming crown prince.
Ibn Saud has been such a bankrupt family they openly support Israel despite all its war crimes against Palestinians. For example Al Waleed told in April last year that ” I will side with the Jewish nation and its democratic aspirations…and I shall exert all my influence to break any ominous Arab initiatives set to condemn Tel Aviv, because I deem the Arab-Israeli entente and future friendship necessary to impede the dangerous Iranian encroachment
Meanwhile some senior figures detained in the purge in Saudi Arabia were beaten and tortured so badly during their arrest or subsequent interrogations that they required hospital treatment. The scale of the crackdown, which has brought new arrests each day, is much bigger than Saudi authorities have admitted, with more than 500 people detained and double that number questioned.
Members of the royal family, government ministers and business tycoons were caught up in the sudden wave of arrests orchestrated by Salman, under the banner of an anti-corruption drive.
Some, but not all, of the top figures arrested were singled out for the most brutal treatment, suffering wounds to the body sustained by classic torture methods. There are no wounds to their faces, so they will show no physical signs of their ordeal when they next appear in public.
The purge, which follows an earlier roundup of Muslim clerics, writers, economists and public figures, has created panic in Riyadh, the Saudi capital, particularly among those associated with the old regime of King Abdullah, who died in 2015, with power then passing to his half-brother, King Salman.
Many fear the primary purpose of the crackdown is a move by Salman to knock out all rivals inside. Meanwhile Saudi media reported that Saudi Prince Mansour Bin Muqrin, best friend and business partner of resigned Lebanese prime minister Saad Hariri, and seven other people, including senior government officials and a mayor, were killed in a helicopter crash. The helicopter was deliberately targeted by state forces and attacked by a jet fighter because it is believed Bin Muqrin opposed Salman’s succession to the throne.
According to the sources, Bin Muqrin had recently sent a letter to some 1,000 princes urging them to step away from support for Bin Salman’s succession to the throne, pointing out that the youth must take action.The sources claim the attack sends a clear message to others within the royal family that Salman will stop at nothing to silence his critics and those who oppose him.
The New York Times reported that only days before the crackdown, Donald Trump’s senior advisor and son-in-law Jared Kushner, close friend of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, was in Saudi Arabia where he met with the rulers till early hours in the morning. There seems little doubt therefore that Trump gave a nod of approval. What this points to is that the Trump administration is indulging the Saudi power grab as a quid quo pro in firming up the anti-Iran axis of Washington-Riyadh-Tel Aviv.
Although the Saudi purge has captured the headlines, the danger of a regional war, domestic upheavals and regime change is more likely than at any time in recent memory. As Salman consolidates his power domestically against influential members of the Al Saud ruling family, he is using anti-Shia sectarianism to whip up war hysteria against Iran and the Iran nuclear deal.
It is just one more illustration of how destructive and nihilistic US foreign policy is in the Middle East. Wars, deaths, violence, sectarian hatred never seem to satisfy Washington’s bloodlust. But in taking on Iran, American intrigue may meet its final downfall. Especially because the people of the region are increasingly becoming aware of how malicious American power operates.
Some believe that Salman is moving faster and farther along this trajectory of regional destabilization. The prime exhibit is the disastrous war in Yemen, with the Saudi and Emirati offensive turning an internal conflict about tribal disaffection from the Yemeni government into an international humanitarian catastrophe. The emboldened prince will make the situation even more catastrophic. Shortly after his purge in Riyadh he announced that he was making the partial blockade of Yemen a total blockade of all ground, air, and sea ports, thereby further extending collective punishment of the Yemeni people in a vain effort to salvage some kind of win.
No more successful has been the attempt to bring Qatar to heel. All that this effort has accomplished so far is an increase in tensions and animosity in the Persian Gulf region.
In the Bedouin culture, the attack on his cousins will not be forgotten or forgiven. Their public humiliation, as well as freezing of their assets, is seen as a blow to their honor, which surviving members of their family are duty bound to avenge.
The crown prince’s attack on leading business figures is equally risky. One of those rounded up on Saturday was Bakr bin Laden, the head of Saudi Arabia’s biggest construction company.
By hitting the foundations of the unity of the family, as well as the oligarchs, and targeting independent Islamic scholars and public figures, Salman is turning his guns on the traditional pillars of the Saudi state, one analyst said.
Indications are that Ibn Saud family installed in power by British imperial power and Zionist Jews, and run with remote control by US, have gone far too long in playing politics with Islam, destroying Muslim countries and killing millions of Muslims by participating in all US, UK, French, Russian and Israeli wars against Islam and Muslims.
Jim softy / November 16, 2017
Latheef: Just take it. It is Allah’s wish what ever happens.
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Feroz / November 17, 2017
Dear brother Latheef,
If you read the signs of Quiyama, what is happening in the Middle East is exactly said there..This is one of the Major signs of the Quiyama as the division among the Muslim brothers, the falsehood prevailing over the truth and opressive rulers conquest over the helpless and killing spree of Muslims is all happening today.
So there is nothing we could do as this is destined to happen and this is one of the horrendous signs before the Dooms day…May Allah SWT protect us from his opressors.
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Amarasiri / November 16, 2017
Lateef,
The Great Satan has joined with the two Minor Satans.
Have you looked into the Hadith of Najd?
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Singhalese pundit / November 16, 2017
Amaeasiri..
You love Hadith of Najd.what is your proof that this saying is an authentic?.why do you pick up some isolated Hadith.
Islam is not all about this and that Hadith.
In the name of Hadith they are so many myths ..
But wahabism is now dead .
I hope no more wahabism in Saudi..
Now salafi groups in Sri Lanka many be weeping and sending crocodile tears .
Even some may try to say what happening is in accordance with will of God…to destroy wahabism for good .
Salafi people need to learn more and more about politics now .
They want to kill all other Muslim groups to promote wahabims.
Allah make them to have their own enemy in Saudi.
That enemy is none but Muamahed ibn Salman .
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Amarasiri / November 16, 2017
Sinhalese pundit,
Wahhabism is still live and well.
Look at all the Goni Billas in the Muddle East, Sri lanka and India.
The Wahhabi Satan has joined forces with the other Satans to attack the Shia and the Sufis.
All prescient predicted by Prophet Mohamed (PBUH) 1,400 years ago per Shiah Buhari, Authentic Hadith, which Muslims accept.
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Ralli Ameen / November 16, 2017
Wahabi, Hadith of Naj, Mitochondria, Paras and now Goni Billas, this idiot Amarasiri has nothing else to write. 3/4 th of his brain filled these and website’s other anti-sunni topics. Suddenly he may turn lunatic and end up in the lunatic asylum.
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Amarasiri / November 16, 2017
Rali Ameen,
The Satan, Devil, Iblis is stirring up again the Saudi-Wahhabis-Salafis, ISIS, Taliban and its clones, and has recruited the Great Satan and minor Satans, and the True Muslims who obey Allah (swt) are again subjected to abuse, as per Hadith of Najd.
All those Wahhabi-Salafis and their clones when they realize that they have been following the Satan, Devil, Iblis all these years, and will end up in Hell-Fire along with Satan, on the day of Judgement, per Islamic Theology, will certainly turn lunatic.
It is not too late now for the Wahhabi-Salafies and their clones to give up the Satanic ideology and discard the Goni Billa dress, only if they want to be saved from Hell-Fire.
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Ralli Ameen / November 17, 2017
Amarasiri so why are you making so much fuss about it? You are not following Wahabism, are you? Are your women wearing like Goni Billa or western attire, shorts showing almost their front and back holes? Worry only about what is happening within your family and community.
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Rohan / November 16, 2017
Why are these South Asian origin Sri Lankan Tamil Muslims so interested in Saudi, Israel Iran and not your own backyard? Who cares what happens in Saudi Arabia Iran or Israel. Why is it because these Wahhabi from Saudi fund the pretend Arab Salafists in Sri Lanka , who are now trying to steal the east, from its rightful Tamil owners and use it as a springboard to take over the rest of the island for Wahhabi Islam? Always crying about the Arabs and western Asia and all the happenings there, as if your ancestry is from there. It is not. Your ancestry is from South India. These Arab Wahhabi/Salafists are the biggest racists and hypocrites. They treat you Sri Lankan and other South Asian Muslims like dirt and use you as cannon fodder, for their Wahhabi/Salafist cause. Whilst preaching about Wahhabi purity, they are the biggest drug addicts and sexual perverts and indulge in all forms of perverted sex and drugs. This is why they were importing young children from many impoverished Muslim non Arab families in South Asia , including Sri Lanka , Africa and parts of Eastern Europe to be used as sex slaves for their perverted sexual pleasures. This does not bother you ? Why don’t you take pride in your own rich ancient Tamil origin and Tamil Islamic culture, instead of constantly worshipping and crying about Arab Poo. Never met a people who are so twisted and confused. Hate their own origin and culture which is one of the oldest in the world and worship and claim everything Arab as theirs. Shameless and nasty. You hardly look Arab to me but of Dravidian South India
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Ralli Ameen / November 16, 2017
Rohan the Australoid crow cawing here again. The subject here is “Saudis joined US and Israel to attack Iran. This crow cawing about Ceylon Moors. Even if you caw for another 100 years (if you live) Moors will never accept they belong to you shit crows. We are a separate entity called Moors, we can look after our affairs by ourselves. Within another 100 years time Moors language will be Sinhala and English only. We all know how much you all and some racist Sinhalese hate us and jealous over our prosperity. One Jaffna Tamil who was a functioning judge in the court of LTTE before he migrated to UK had told a Muslim friend ( a journalist) that the real truth behind chasing Moors from Jaffna is out of jealousy and those racist to take over Moors business. The racist Sinhala minorities too have such feelings and at random they burn Moor’s shops. All these are out of hatred and hatred toward Muslim but majorities are good people. Who is worshiping Arabs you donkey. You and your kind only worshiping Arabs and licking their backs.
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Rohan / November 16, 2017
Short and sweet you and 99% of the Sri Lankan Muslims are no Moors or of Arab descent. Pathetically and shamelessly trying to cling to an incorrect name that the Portuguese colonials to all South Asian Muslims , as the only Muslims they had come into contact before their journey, were the Moors from North Africa who ruled the Iberia Peninsular for almost a 1000 years and were finally chased off from southern Cordoba around 1492. All other South Asian Muslims quickly discarded this incorrect classification, as they were proud of their own ethnicity culture and language, even the Tamil Muslims from Tamil Nadu and Kerala. from whom these so called Sri Lankan Moors are descended from. Only these shameless Sri Lankan Muslims keep on calling themselves Moors, to hide their actual largely low caste immigrant Hindu Indian Tamil converted origin and to find favour with the Sinhalese. Strange the parent population from whom they originated in South India a few centuries ago are Tamil and proudly call themselves Tamil and their descendants in Sri Lanka are Moors. Even the Arabs have classified the Sri Lankan Muslims as South Asian converts to Islam, with hardly any Arab/Moor blood, yet these brainwashed shameless wankers keep on calling them selves Moors and deny they are Tamils for political and economic gain. Go and look at yourself in the mirror before posting garbage here. You must be some Bipolar who forgot to take his Prozac.
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Nikhil / November 16, 2017
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SJ / November 16, 2017
The term Moor was used by the British to refer to the Muslims of the country. (A book on the Muslims of the country written a decade ago by Prof. MA Nuhman, who was then Professor of Tamil, University of Peradeniya has valuable information.)
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Whatever one may call them or they prefer to call themselves, their leaders have since a century ago when the Tamil elite leaders turned hostile to the Muslims chosen to assert their distinct identity.
Relations were mostly warm though with the communities with whom they coexisted, until Sinhala chauvinist envy turned on them once more since the 1970s and the Tamil leaders too them for granted, especially after the notorious Vaddukkoddai Resolution.
The Tamils lost the catholic community of the west coast thanks to the Jaffna-Vellala-centred caste-ridden approach. But learned nothing in more than a century.
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Arrogance losses friends while gaining nothing.
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Rohan / November 16, 2017
The British like the Sinhalese wanted to divide and rule. The Tamils never turned against Muslims , they always stated they were part of their nation it was the Muslim politicians and elite elite, especially the southern , decided to deny their Tamil identity and emphasize on an Arab Islamic identity thinking this will be advantageous to them politically and economically , since most of them live among the Sinhalese, who are anti Tamil. Hence they latched on to the incorrect classification the Portuguese gave them and demanded the British to classify them as Moors and the British, as usual always willing to divide and rule obliged. Stop lying , Of course Prof Nuhman , whether a professor of Tamil or not is another Sri Lakan Muslim. What can you expect from him. Tamils never lost the fishing Catholic community along the west coast due to caste , again stop lying you Muslim extremist. These poor Catholic fishermen were forced to become Sinhalese. Many of them were uneducated and poor and the racist Sinhalese Catholic priests down south brainwashed them to study in Sinhalese stating it was better for them. These areas should have been part of the Tamil Catholic diocese of the north and east but were deliberately made part of the Southern Sinhalese Catholic diocese. As for caste Tamils are far less casteist than the Sinhalese. You are just another nasty backstabber who is trying to rewrite history. Typical of your community
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Ralli Ameen / November 16, 2017
If the Portuguese called you all Tamils and others Sinhalese why did they call Muslims Moors. They had seen your race as mostly 90% blackys, mostly with ugly features and the Sinhalese race were lighter coloured than you and with better features. So if Muslim belonged to either one of your race they would have said Muslim as Sinhalese or Tamils. Portuguese are educated and intelligent people and they would have classified correctly after comparing Muslims with you people and even language. Since they found Muslim had distinct culture and features they called them Moors comparing them to Moors they came across in other countries. You say Tamils never turned against Muslims but the worst rascals are you Tamils. Only a small minority of Sinhalese are racist but 90% of Tamils are racist. We know the amount of killing they did village by village and ethnic cleansing northern Muslims. I will tell frankly, among Sri Lankan Tamils it is only estate origin Tamils are good people. You northern Tamils are dirty lot.
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Rohan / November 17, 2017
The Portuguese called the Jaffna Tamils Malabars , as they spoke a similar language, as the people of Kerala and looked the same and the Sinhalese Siamese as they were Buddhists like the Siamese. However the Sinhalese and Tamils did not accept this incorrect identification, as they were not They called you Moors because of your religion and had nothing to with your ethnicity, as they only Muslims , they had even seen prior to their travels were the Moors from North Africa, who ruled the Iberian peninsular. They not only called you low caste Tamil converts Moors but all South Asian Muslims eg; Punjabi Gujarati. Sindhi, However these people did not accept this, as they were not Moors, only you low caste immigrant Indian Tamil converts jumped on this incorrect identification , as you wanted to hide your lowly origins and be something important. You are typical example of this. 95% of the island’s Sinhalese Tamils and Muslims look the same and an outsider will never be able to identify who is who( if the Muslim women stop wearing their black sack cloth) . DNA also confirms this, that all Sri Lankans are closely related to the population of South India. and this includes the Sri Lankan Muslims. You not only mad but colour blind too. Now run and take your Prozac. This is what happens when stop taking your medicines. You start to rant.
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Ralli Ameen / November 17, 2017
So the Rohan the Austroloid thinks Portuguese had caste systems and well aware of the caste of people. When you write why don’t you write something people can believe. 95% of Sinhalese and Moors do not look like Tamils. May be about 15-20%. If we go around all the Tamil villages, towns in North and East more than 70% are very dark having Australoid features and some with negroid features. Even in Tamil Nadu also same. I have been to many, many villages and I can vouch for it. Without Prozac you are blind on everything. Only idiots will say you can prove a race with DNA test. So first study what scholars in this field say. Caste system was brought by Aryan Brahmins in order to keep you Australoids outside the fence. Now you all are following it thinking it is great system.
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Rohan / November 17, 2017
Did you also visit your close Tamil Muslim cousins in Tamil Nadu and also the ancestral Dalit kuppam or cheri from where your converted Dalit Australoid ancestors originated from ? Or did they chase you away when they saw that you are not quite right in the head and a Wahhabi/Salafist extremist worshipping Arab coca? The more you post , the more you reveal your vile nature and what a racist you are. Funny notice, the Sinhalese and Muslim always talk about how caste conscious the Tamils are and how Islam and Buddhism abhor caste/class and race ethnic divisions( sic) but if you read their posts it is full of vile caste conscious racist derogatory remarks , running down certain races and people. Tamils do not do this. May be they suffer from a complex as most of them originate from low caste immigrant Indian Tamils. Therefore post how light skinned and wonderful they look, a person of good standing or breeding will never post such nonsense only some one from a poor/low background. If there is any light skin, it has come from the wrong side of the bed. Playing lots of hanky panky with the white colonials.
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Ralli Ameen / November 17, 2017
Did you take a Prozac Rohan? Now you are turning the boat in wrong direction. You are the fool who was saying (also your other Australoid clique) Moors are low caste Tamil converts from South India. You all don’t have the decency at least to say Moors are Tamil converts. Will a good Tamil write like that? So the parayas here is you and your clique. It is okay anybody saying Moors were Negroid origin, Mongol origin or Australoid from East Asia because you had to be from some race. But you dogs bringing your master Brahmin’s caste system to show the Moors origin. Do you know if you are a Tamil and of high caste still the Aryan Brahmins will kick you out from their family circles? We Moors do not have caste system, we are always saying we are of mixed origin and now ethnically established as Moor. We have thousands of differences in everything including culture, food, dress, marriage etc. Even the Tamil we speak have a big difference with Arabic and Sinhala words and pronunciation. We feel we are Moors neither Tamils nor Sinhalese. Yes I had gone to many Muslim villages and areas in cities but in all Dalit kuppam and other stinking areas only you Australoid Tamil living, eating there and shitting there. So you stinking Australoid don’t bring Moors ethnicity in your comment on articles relevant to Muslims or Islam. Just give your views on the subject like rest are doing.
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Real Siva Sankaran Sharma / November 16, 2017
There is no distinct Muslim identity , they are not an ethnic group but a religious group who are ethnically Tamil. They are trying to use their religion and an imagined Arab origin that only a small microscopic segment of them, partially have to create a separate identity from the rest of the Tamils for their own advantage Especially their elite and politicians as they power hungry and have brainwashed the Tamil Muslim masses to hate their actual Tamil origin and heritage and consider themselves Moor or Arab. Mad Ralli’s rant that he is a Moor is a result of this brainwashing. The British and later the Sinhalese jumped on this divide and rule tactic to divide the island’s Tamils on the basis of region caste and religion and are still trying to do so. We can see from your rants too Jaffna ( region) Vellar( caste) . There was no cordialiry between the Sinhalese and Muslims. Stop lying. When the Portueuse persecuted the Muslims along the west coats the Sinhalese did not want them to settle in the Kandyan areas, on a large scale and started to attack them an d it was the Tamils in the east who took pity on them and gave them refuge and they are now repaying the eastern Tamils who gave them refuge by trying to steal their land with Sinhalese help. The Sinhalese attacked them in 1915 and have also attacked them many times the latest a few years ago. The Sinhalese know that they can never trust you fake Arabs as you are backstabbers and time servers , They only tolerated you until they had finished with the Tamils and now have turned on you. They hate you far more than the Tamils. However you are still trying your best to back stab the Tamils and curry favour with the Sinhalese thinking you can win further benefits , at the expense of the Tamils, like you have always done.
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Ralli Ameen / November 17, 2017
Real Siva Sankaran Sharma, I am not brainwashed to change my ethnicity. How can that be possible? It is the feeling and facts having for generation that we are Moors and not Tamils but of course we accept Arabs mixed with Tamil, Sinhalese and few other races. Now we are a separate entity called Moors. I need not explain to you here because already I had argued with you and put the facts. If I am a Tamil I won’t care for two hoots whether Moor say they are Arab origin, Mongoloid origin or any other origin. Why it is hurting you and putting your stinking mouth on Moors ethnicity. Is any foreign agent or your politician paying you to write like this. I don’t think your politician will do that because they had already tried to make us Tamils before and failed. When Portuguese persecuted Muslim it was Sinhalese Kings allowed them to settle in interior regions. It was Dudley Senanayake who encouraged Muslims to settle in eastern province since Sinhalese were reluctant to go. As for North it was normal migration and 100% of them were traders. The subject here is “Saudi join Us and Israel to attack Iran” so why don’t you give your view on this if you are intelligent enough to do so.
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Nikhil / November 16, 2017
The Arabs who came for trade did not settle down in Ceylon. They were in fact a floating population along the Western and Southern coasts. On seeing the Portuguese they got so scared that they left their lucrative trade, their wives/concubines and children to the mercy of the Portuguese and fled, swearing not to come back. Yes, to this day they have not come back.
From 1311 to 1330, under orders from Ala-u-din, the Sultan of Delhi, Makik Kaffoor, Ghiyathu-d-din Dhamaghani, Khusuru Khan and other generals, demolished and devastated Hindu temples in the South and carried away the loot (gold, silver etc) to Delhi. The Southern region however, did not go under Muslim rule until 1330. In 1380 a powerful Tamil King, Kumara Kampan attacked the Muslim ruler Sikander, killed him in battle and drove the Muslim army out of Tamil country. As in the North, in the South too, Muslim conquerors, at the point of the sword, compelled Hindus, Jains and Buddhists to embrace Islam.
(Ref: History of India by Elliot, History of
Tamil Nadu by Pro. N. Subramaniam).
It may be interesting to observe that while Christian missionaries converted non-Christians all over the world by persuasion, Muslim conquerors converted people of other faiths to Islam, at the point of the sword. With the fall of Muslim rule in the South in 1380, there was a renaissance among the Hindus and in the latter part of the 14th century, the converts were prosecuted until they fled the Tamil country in Marak Kalams (Wooden Boats) and landed on the coasts of Ceylon. Because they came in Marak Kalams the Sinhala people called them Marakkala Minissu. Yes, to this day, the Sinhalese call them Marakkala Minissu. Tamils in South India and Sri Lanka call them Sonahars, (Ref: Yarlpana Vaipava Malai 1736 by Mailvaganar Pulavar).
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Amarasiri / November 16, 2017
Nikhil,
Yes, they all are Paras in the Land of Native Veddah Aethho (Aetto). All the Paras should get back yo their homeland, India, Bharat, Danba-Diva, Bengal, Orissa, Bihar, Gujarat, South India etc. and leave the Land of Native Veddah Aethho.
When will they leave?
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Real Siva Sankaran Sharma / November 17, 2017
Yes we are all Paras but over 98% of these Paras be they be Sinhalese Tamil or Sri Lankan Muslim, migrated from the then Tamil country in South India( what is now modern day Tamil Nadu, Kerala, Southern Andhra and Southern Karnataka) . From prehistoric to modern times. However the Sri Lankan Muslims despite speaking Tamil and overwhelmingly looking like Dravidian Tamil and following Tamil customs , until decided to become and look alike Wahhabi/Salafist clones, stubbornly keep on denying this truth that is obvious to everyone ,especially their elite and politicians. This is an obvious effort to gain favour from the largely anti Tamil Sinhalese population for selfish political and economic gains and in they also suffer from an inferiority complex, and think they look better claiming a fake Arab/Moor origin than their actual Dravidian Tamil origin from South India. They have been brainwashed to such an extent by their elite to hate their Tamil origin and consider themselves Arabs/Moors , as you can see in this forum many become very aggressive when challenged. Even very educated ones will bring all sorts of weird/flimsy explanations to defend the Arab origin. It is very sad, as it is a form of genocide, not allowing a people to acknowledge who they are but to worship someone else. It is like a child discarding his or her parents and claiming someone else as their, as they feel it is more beneficial. Their elite, the British and the Sinhalese establishment and many western historians and journalists, who still go on printing the official untruth about their origin for petty benefits should also take the blame, as they are enforcing a lie and a myth. At least many Sinhalese are now coming to realise and acknowledge the truth that most of their ancestors indeed arrived from the Tamil country in South India.
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Jim softy / November 16, 2017
This explanation should be correct. In order to escape that forceful conversion some Tamil Jains ran away to Sri lanka. that is how Svethambrer (now called Saivites) filled Yapapatuna. Some of them were later converted to christians and that helped them get employed under colonials.
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SJ / November 17, 2017
Nikhil
Tamil King Kumara Kampan! Whom are you trying to kid?
Kumara Kampana (note the final “a”) was an officer of the Vijayanagara Kingdom in Andhra.
Can you give any credible historical reference to your narrative about Hindu renaissance and persecution of Muslims in the South.
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These Hindutva amateur historiographers are even less credible than Tamil popular movies.
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How many of these writers of history as fiction know that South Indian Muslim immigrants even used the Arabic script to write Tamil?
Assertion of a separate Muslim identity goes a long way back.
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Rohan / November 17, 2017
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Rohan / November 17, 2017
Get your facts correct before trying to run down well known historians of repute , just because it does not agree with your Moor origin for Sri Lankan Muslims. So you agree the Muslims of Sri Lanka are South Indian Tamils? This means you are contradicting yourself. Arwi ( Tamil written in Arabic script) was used by the Tamil Muslims of Tamil Nadu and these South Indian immigrant Tamil Muslims brought it with them when they migrated from Tamil Nadu. They did not create it or invent it here. It was invented in Tamil Nadu. This itself is proof that the Sri Lankan Muslims are ethnic Tamil immigrants from Tamil Nadu , as they brought a form of writing that was used by the Tamil Muslims in Tamil Nadu. Although Arwi was widely used by the Tamil Muslims in Tamil Nadu and in Sri Lanka to some extent for some time it really did not take off , just like the move to make the Bengali Muslims to use the Arabic script instead of the Bengali script. Just because there was fad to use Arabic to write Tamil by the Muslims in Tamil Nadu does not mean they ever called themselves Arabs. Similarly Urdu is wriiten in the Persian/Arabic script and Punjabi and Sindhi in Pakistan is also written in this same script but none of these people call themselves Arabs or Persian. English is written in Latin Script, so are the English Roman? Your arguments are very weak.
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Ralli Ameen / November 19, 2017
Rohan, Arwi or Arabic script was widely used because at that time they did not know to write in Tamil, beside the language they spoke were with many Arabic words. It was dropped when they started learning the language. In Sri Lanka too they started learning Tamil, Sinhala and English so the Arwi was dropped. During my grand parents time they wrote letters in Arabic script and now it is not necessary to us. In Pakistan and India Urdu is written in Arabic script. In Iran Persian language is written in Arabic script. In Turkey, Indonesia, and Malaysia too their language was written in Arabic script but later they changed into English alphabet. There was no fad in using Arabic script, some countries used English Alphabet for convenient sake, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iran did not drop it because they can express their languages better with Arabic script. South India it was dropped because they learned the indigenous languages and Sri Lanka too they learned Tamil. Sinhala and English. Your argument like all your other arguments baseless, lies, untrue, distorted and fabrication based on jealousy and myths.
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Rohan / November 17, 2017
Assertion of a separate Muslim identity for the immigrant South Indian Tamil Muslims in the island from the rest of the Tamils does not go a long way back. For centuries they were content to be identified as Tamil Muslims. It is only in the very late 19TH century and early 20TH century their southern elite politicians decided that they should create a separate Islamic identity based on their religion and an Arab identity and origin that was imagined for the vast majority of the island’s Muslims and only true for a small microscopic minority and even in their case it was marginal . It really accelerated after independence in 1948. They deliberately did this for their own selfish power and economic benefit. They wanted to create a political power base exclusively for themselves and the best way to do this was to separate the Muslim Tamil from the rest of the Tamils, using their religion and origin. Deny their Tamil origin and state that they are not Tamils but Tamil speaking Arabs or Moors . The same ploy used by the Buddhist monks, when they wrote the Mahavamsa. Told the converted Tamil Buddhists they are not Tamils but Aryans. Using this power base as a bargaining chip. these Muslim elite and politicians , gained a lot of benefits for themselves and their families and few crumbs for the rest of the Muslims. They also did this, as most of them lived among the Sinhalese (72%) and they did not want to be identified as Tamils by the largely anti Tamil Sinhalese.
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Ralli Ameen / November 18, 2017
Rohan, how do you know they were content to be identified as Tamil Muslims? I think for centuries during your rebirth you kept a record of it. If Moors deliberately did this to make a political power base exclusively for themselves see how clever and advanced they are comparing to you tree climbers. Anyway I would like to ask you a question. Why you and your other clique trying so hard to make Moors Tamil Muslims. Were you paid or it is sheer jealousy? Even Sinhalese is Tamil origin for you. Mad dogs.
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Real Siva Sankaran Sharma / November 18, 2017
SJ King Kumara Kambana did exist and he defeated and chased out the North Indian Muslims rulers from the Tamil country. It is recorded history. With him started the Naicker rule and the end of native Tamil rulers in Tamil Nadu. He was the first of the Vijayanagara Telugu origin Naicker rule in what is now modern Tamil Nadu and they made Madurai their capital.
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Real Siva Sankaran Sharma / November 18, 2017
Nikhil all what you state is true, however even Christians , especially the Spanish and Portuguese also used force and converted people on the point of the sword. They did this in Latin America, in Goa India and even in Sri Lanka. They ruled the coastal areas and this is the reason most people living along the coast are Catholics. Remember they destroyed over 500 Hindu temples in Tamil North and East. Including important temples like Thirukeetheswaran and Thirukooneswaram. Etc. It was later Protestant missionaries who used persuation, by opening schools ETC but definitely not the Catholic Portuguese and Spanish.
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Ralli Ameen / November 18, 2017
Nikhil, Muslims traders came to Sri Lanka around 900 years back and Portuguese and others came around 400 years back. When Portuguese persecuted Moor traders in colombo, they were allowed to settle in the interior region by the king. Muslim monopolized the sea route from middle-east to China. Traders settled in many countries including Sri Lanka. Moghuls ruled India for 800 years and if they had converted Hindus by sword all of India will be a Muslim country, on the contrary India was civilised by Moghuls. Kumara Kampara did not attack Sikandar you idiot. Sikandar Lodu was Sultan of Delhi and Kampara form Vijayanagar empire. He attacked Madurai Muslim ruler. Where there were no direct rule by Moghul Kings other provinces paid tax in order avoid invasion. Rulers of Southern Tamil provinces paid tax. Kampara was HariHara’s brother’s son. Vijaynagar Empire was not Tamils. Even now if you go to Vijayanagar and call them Tamil you will get a kick on the face. Marak Kalam refers to Sailing ship and Tamil call boats Thoni or padaku. Arab and Persian traders came in sailing ship. Marikkar evolved from Marakkalam manithar. You are changing the history the way you want. All article about Dravidian in Wiki too were uploaded by maniac like you. When you think of warfare 1500 before in Tamilnadu and other parts of India don’t dream of what they were showing in movies like Alexandra the great. Those were clan warfare like the tribal warfare in Africa. After Moghul only they learned modern warfare according to that time and now from the westerners.
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Nikhil / November 16, 2017
Arabs came to Ceylon in the 15th century not as conquerors or missionaries but as traders. The Arabs, the Portuguese, the Dutch and the British did not bring their women folk with them. It is surprising that while the Europeans had taken Sinhala and Tamil women as wives/concubines, the Arabs had taken only Tamil women for their comfort and pleasure. That is, I believe the reason why there are no Sinhala Muslims in Sri Lanka. The reason why the Arabs were not interested in Sinhala women is not far to seek. The Arabs were keen on having as their companions only women who professed Islam.
Arabs would not have come to Ceylon in thousands. A couple of hundreds would have come with each expedition at intervals of say 12 to 24 months or so. The Arab factor would not therefore, have altered the ethnic or demographic pattern of the Tamil Muslims who had come from Tamil Nadu in the 14th century.
The Portuguese came to Ceylon in the 16th century as conquerors. They dubbed the Tamil Muslims `Moors’, because as in Morocco, the Muslim of Portugal and Spain were called Moors. (Ref: The Story of Lanka by E. L. Blaze).
Whereas the descendants of the Europeans (the Burghers) resemble their forefathers very closely, the Tamil-speaking Muslims who vociferously claim to be descendants of Arabs, other than an insignificant minority ,do not have the slightest resemblance to an Arab in stature or complexion. The mother tongue of the Muslim is Tamil. They still bear Muslim Tamil caste names like Marrikar Lebbai. Pitchai Kutty, Rawther, Kayalar, Etc, Unlike Arab women, local Muslim women bore their noses and put studs, use anklets and gold jewelry. Adult women wear sarees while teenagers wear Paa Vadai and Thaavani( at least a generation ago. Now dress like Wahhabi Arab clones).Brothers’ and sisters’ children marry as first choice. The bride is given dowry which is contrary to Muslim Law but very Hindu. Proving their Hindu origin. Arab men given money to the bride’s father and purchase their brides. The bride-groom puts a Thali round the neck of the bride. This custom prevails among Tamil Muslims and Tamil Christians of Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka and other Dravidians. In local Muslim houses Gingerly oil is included in the diet of girls who have attained maidenhood.
Muslim physicians of Ceylon brought their medical literature from Kayal Pattanam in Tamil Nadu. (Ref: Avicenna 1967. Journal of the Unani Medical Students Union). Tamil Nadu-type houses can still be seen in Muslim colonies of Mannar, Puttalam and Jaffna
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Ralli Ameen / November 19, 2017
Nickhil, can you tell me why the Portuguese if they called you Tamil by studying the language you speak and your features and called Sinhalese for same reasons, why they did not call us either Tamil or Sinhalese? They did not know head or tail about religions except RC. Since our culture was similar to those Muslims in some parts of Spain they called us Moors. If we had your culture they would have called us Tamils. Marikkar, Lebbai etc originated from the Sailing ship they arrived and the trading practice but not caste name or Tamil name. No Moor woman put studs on the nose. It is Haram and it is an Indian culture. Indian women even rings on the nose. Don’t compare with some Indian Muslim women. Dowry system was copied by Muslims from Tamils and Sinhalese. In fact it was the bridegroom who pays a dowry (mahar) during marriage although it was a small amount. Those days Muslim women wore long one piece dress with a Mukkatu (head cover) and later adapted to Shalwar Kameez but saree some women wore. Bridegroom don’t put thali but present a crescent shape necklace and we call it savadi. Giving necklace or the full set is practiced by all Muslims even in Middle-est. There is no holiness in it. But your thali is a piece of holy rope tied around neck with rituals. All the Hindus in India practice this. First time I am hearing about this gingerly oil practice, we never gave such thinks to our daughters. First you verify this from Moors. Unani is Arabic medicine and the origin is Greek. All over the world Muslims practice this and I don’t know what shit you are talking about Kayal Pattanam. Sri Lanka Ayurvedic medical college also teach Unani.
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Nikhil / November 16, 2017
Muslims of Northern India belong to the Aryan stock, and are by ethnicity Rajputs, Gujeratis, Maharashtras, Punjabis, Kashmiris etc.. The inhabitants of West Bengal, Bangladesh and Orissa do not claim to be Aryans. They are Mongoloid Dravidians. The indigenous Muslims of Andhra, Kerala, Karnataka, Tamil-Nadu, Maldives and Sri Lanka are Dravidians to the core. Sir P. Ramanathan, a scholar and statesman of international repute asserted in unequivocal terms that the Muslims of Ceylon were Tamils by ethnicity. Ethnicity does not change with change of faith. Ethnicity cannot be changed by Cabinet decisions or with the stroke of the pen. Can a leopard change its spots? The name `Yawanas’ first used to denote foreigners, was derived from the word Ionians (Greeks), with whom the Hindus first became acquainted. In the ancient Sanskrit and Tamil period, it denoted the Greeks but in subsequent times when the Greeks were succeeded by the Mohamedans, it was the Mohamedans who were denoted by that name. In later Sanskrit of the Vishnu Purana, we are to understand by Yavanas, not the Greeks but the Mohamadans. The word Sonahars by which the Mohamadans are known in Tamil Nadu is merely a corruption of the Sanskrit word `Yavanas’ Ref: Tamil Studies by M. Srinivasa. The words, Mohamedians, Muslims, Moors, Yonahars, (Sonahars) are synonyms for those professing Islam, irrespective of the ethnicity to which they belong. The sonahars of Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka Tamils by ethnicity. In the late 1950s, the late Gate Mudaliyar Kariapper, while addressing voters of the Eastern Province in support of the Federal Party, said “None can dispute the fact that Tamil speaking Muslims of Ceylon are descendants of Tamil Hindus who embraced Islam in the latter part of the 14th century when South India was under Muslim rule. It is only religion that divides the Tamils and Muslims. By ethnicity Tamils and Muslims are one”.
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Nikhil / November 17, 2017
SJ, the only person being arrogant and nasty here is you. Stating the obvious truth is not arrogance. May be to you and the rest of the Sri Lankan Muslims, as you do not want the truth to be told but the lies and myth to prevail, as you think it is beneficial to your agenda and in your jaundiced eyes, gives you more prestige to claim an Arab/Moor origin than your actual Dravidian Tamil origin from South India. It is you who are being racist and arrogant as you are suffering from a complex and think Arab/Moor is superior to being Tamil. No one objects if the Muslims in the island want to create a different identity from the rest of the Tamils based on their religion. However this identity should be based on truth and not lies and myths, that had resulted in all this hatred and suspicion. The only people who benefited from this lies and myth about this fake Arab/Moor origin of the Sri Lankan Muslims , are the Sinhalese and the Muslim elite and politicians and not the Muslim masses. This is why they badly want to protect this myth and will aggressively attack anyone who challenges this with the truth, as their power lies in this lies and myth of an Arab/Moor origin that in reality only a few partially have. Just like the Slavic Muslims of Bosnia, who created a separate identity from their fellow Christian Slavs, with whom they shared the same southern Slavic origin and language in the former Yugoslavia, and called themselves, Slavic Muslims not Arabs/Turks,the Muslims of Sri Lanka should have correctly called themselves Tamil Muslims and not Moor. There is definitely a little bit of Arab but definitely not Moor and even this small amount still does not make you Arab or Moor but Tamil. It is the Christian and Hindu Tamils in the island, who suffered the most from this myth and this is why they object to this lie and want the truth to be told.
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Ralli Ameen / November 16, 2017
It is you lunatic crow Rohan who needs Prozac because your brain is filled with hatred and jealousy toward Moors and Arabs you cannot think straight. It was Moors who made the ladder for you to come down from the trees in Sri Lanka and India. We know Portuguese called every one Moors if they had cultural and religious similarities. You donkey do not know the Moors did not come from North Africa, and Cordoba is in Spain. It was a Roman territory conquered by Arabs and mixed people there later called Moors by Portuguese and others. North African countries like Egypt, Morocco, and Libya etc. are Arabs. The Portuguese very much later wherever they went called the Muslims there Moors because of the similarities in culture. Show me the Arabs classification, give details. You think Arabs don’t have any other works. The point is however much you cry since the Moor’s ethnicity was already established, they will never say they belongs to your Australoid race neither they will say they are Arabs. Go to any village in Sri Lanka and ask whether their race is Tamil, you will get only ‘no’ answer. You go to predominantly Muslim towns in India and ask the same questions, the answer will be ‘no’. I have been to many towns in South India and Kerala and I personally know this. Of course if we ask a Tamil convert recently (within 100 years) they will say they are Tamils.
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Rohan / November 17, 2017
Mad man stop ranting you are no Moors or Arabs but ethnic Tamils from South India who converted to Islam and started to migrate to the island in the late 14TH century onwards , as the Hindus in the Tamil country started to persecute you low caste converts. You travelled to the island in wooden boats called Marrakklam ( meaning wooden vessel in Tamil) . This is why the Sinhalese still call you people” Marrakalayo or Marrakala minnisu ” basically meaning the people from the wooden boats. You landed on the western coast and Mannar area , which were al l part of the Tamil Jaffna kingdom then and Tamil by ethnicity. It was the Eelam Tamils who gave refuge when you people fled from South Indian and again when you fled the Portuguese in the eastern parts of the island. As you were fellow Tamils. Now you ungrateful low caste Hindu converts from South India joined the Sinhalese and backstabbed us at every instance and are now trying to steal the east from us. We took pity on you and gave you refuge from Portuguese and then Sinhalese persecution and you repay us by joining the very same Sinhalese who persecuted you to steal our lands. There is very little or Arab and definitely no Moor in the Sri Lankan Muslims. Stop ranting and take your medicine.
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Ralli Ameen / November 19, 2017
You Austoloid idiot we don’t say we are Arabs and neither we say we are Tamils or Sinhalese. We are a separate ethnic group and established as Ceylon Moors. You cannot change that idiot however much you cry. The people in your shit Eelam in the olden consist of only tree climbers and slaves. Who need permission from such slaves to settle anywhere. You slaves were taken by British to do the coolie works in other countries, even now sucking the Arabs and talking shit here. Marakkalam is ship (Sailing wooden ship) you idiot. Boat is thoni or padaku in Tamil. You tree climbers knew only boats those days. The Arab and Persian traders came long before Moghuls to India. They landed in Gujarat, Cochin (Kerala) and Colombo. So stop ranting you maniac.
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Nikhil / November 16, 2017
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Pandi Kutti / November 16, 2017
Yes. In 100 years the immigrant low caste Indian Tamil converts to Islam now calling themselves “Moors” as they feel good to claim some imagined Arab/Moorish origin instead of their actual miserable low caste origin from South India, may be speaking Sinhalese and may call themselves Sinhalese Muslims instead of Moors as they now speak Sinhalese and just like other Tamil low caste imports from South India to the island did change ethnicity, Sinhalese Karawa, Sinhalese Salagama , Sinhalese Durawe No need to hide your actual Indian Tamil ethnicity and call yourself Moor, as you speak Sinhalese. Who cares it is 100 years in the future and you and I will not be living. They may be still speaking Tamil or Urdu or Arabic or split into two linguistic communities Tamil speaking in the north and east and Sinhalese speaking in the south. These are all what you think and wish for and it may or may not happen. However at present 99% of them speak Tamil and they all of immigrant Tamil origin from South India. Got it. Now go and take a hike. Would you like a roll in the mud in my pigsty Ralli? It is good for your health and beauty and will make your Australoid skin glow.
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Mallaiyuran / November 17, 2017
Piglet,
Don’t be pushed around by SJ. He has been quipping because he lacks subject knowledge. He stayed away. But he came back. No enthusiastic welcome. So he is struggling to get out of quipping and write comments to get attention. All what he can do is to bring from Jaffnahistory.com. When Sir.P Spoke in British parliament, Lord Salisbury declared the Most Accomplished Speaker in the Entire British Empire”. “Katarai Katrare Kamuruvar” (only an educated honors another educated” ) One should have gone to a place called school to talk about Sir.P. It is not SJ, who goes only to UOJ. Is that recently rated as 12000 th in the world?
SJ is playing a game worse than Muslim Leadership. He could not be friendlier to his race, do you believe he worried about Muslims? He can write anything but Muslim will not allow him even in their backyard. Anyway what he did for Muslim-Tamil relationship that SJV didn’t do? Nothing other than once in while pulling Sir.P name to wedge!
“Eithvan Irrukka Ammpai Novaaneen”. (Why cursing the arrow when the shooter is standing in front of you?) It’s all SJ; nothing to do with Muslims’ origin.
Say, the Tamil Muslims are really Moor or Arab as they claim. Are we going to tell them we are not going to speak Tamil with or live with them? No! We are not going to change. But say Hakeem or Rishard accepts that they Dravidian Tamil; Then will you accept them to do politics for us? No! If you will, then why didn’t Tamils accept Deva or Karuna?
It is taking time. Modayas Buddhist have not found out UNP is selling country’s land to China but preaching sovereignty and refusing to investigate criminals. But Muslims already started to suspect Hakeem-Rishard gang. They will throw away these gangs soon so the Muslims Tamils relationship will improve
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Ralli Ameen / November 19, 2017
Pandi Kutti (the pig) I am not a pig to roll with you in your pigsty, that belongs to you pigs. You don’t have wait for 100 years to see all Moors speaking Sinhala, you can observe it now and in 100 years time it will be complete. We are not going to call ourselves Sinhalese Muslims but only Moors because that refers to our ethnicity. Like Tamil is an adapted language now Sinhala too will be an adapted language. All over the world minorities do speak adapted languages, one example American African. Definitely we all wish to get rid of this Tamil language, of course who love this language can keep it. No issues. Who told you present 99% speaks Tamil. May be around 20% speaks good Tamil (those living in Tamil area) and the rest speak Moorish Tamil mixed with Arabic and Sinhala words (70% of pronunciation different from pure Tamil). About 10% in the interior speaks Sinhala. Why don’t you go around Moor villages in Central and south province, speak with them and see whether I am telling the truth. May be you can’t because you are living in a pigsti abroad.
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Native Vedda / November 19, 2017
Ralli Ameen
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Please note Pandi Kutti is not the pig, it is piglet.
I don’t think you can just pop into a Muslim village. Do you think strangers are allowed to pass through the Islamic Republic of Kattankudy? I doubt it.
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Ralli Ameen / November 20, 2017
Why not? I assure nothing will happen. Just pop in see.
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Rishard / November 16, 2017
Rohan might be true, looking at the way how these cheap SL Muslims behave and their attitudes…damn pieces of ….
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Ralli Ameen / November 23, 2017
What is your attitude, sucking people like Roahn, Siva etc.?
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Rishard / November 16, 2017
“Change is constant”. It has to start at some point anyway. Notably, prince Al-Walid bin Talal is one of the arrested
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Richard Kaz / November 16, 2017
Saudi Arabia as the most pro-US country in the Arab world was always close to Israel, the closest US ally in the ME, except it was all done covertly in the past. But with the new Crown Prince in charge, the secret alliance (which wasn’t very secretive to those who understand how geopolitics works in the ME) is coming out more and more in public. The western media ignorantly or intentionally go on about the differences between Saudi Arabia and Iran are due to Sunni-Shia split which goes down well with the ignorant western public. But in reality, the differences are pro-US and Independent (or anti-US as some might prefer to call it).
Iran does not accept the US political dominance and the Israeli military dominance of the ME, the Saudis do because it allows them to act as America’s deputy. The question is, how will the Arab street, in particular the Saudi public react to the now public alliance between SA and Israel. Interesting times ahead.
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Jim softy / November 16, 2017
LAtheef: YOu have written something very interesting. Islam, that means your prophet, has banned tribalism. So, he went against the system that existed in the region that he lived. Your prophet banned drawing his picture or building statues about him for the same reason. Because, other tribes would obey his teachings. ——- Read and see how Lord Buddha united greater India upto Greece. Remember those muslims who know it go to Sripada and kneel there. Because Buddha is Allah.
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Burt / November 16, 2017
Why should this surprise you when Muslim Pakistan joined hands with bigoted Buddhists to attack Tamils.
Thankfully Muslims are paying the price without delay.
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Native Vedda / November 16, 2017
Burt
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Which Muslims are you talking about? The Muslims are not standardised, homogenous …………………………. people. However that is what the fascist fundamentalist elements within Muslim communities would love to build through out the world, uniformity.
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Soon you will see the saffron clad thug Gnasara not only campaigning for a homogenous Sri Lanka but also enforcing it on everyone.
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Thanks to VP the psychopath the Tamil version of his own aspiring fascist state was destroyed by himself.
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loku malli / November 16, 2017
Naughty Vedda
Why do you pick on anti-Muslim Sinhalese fascists and Muslim fascists while ignoring Tamil fascists who are persistently nasty and insulting towards all Muslims on these pages.
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Native Vedda / November 16, 2017
loku malli
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Read my last sentence.
You need to do some growing up.
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loku malli / November 17, 2017
Naughty V
Everybody knows that you have an ax to grind with the “great leader”.
But you seldom take notice of the horde of anti-Muslim commentators driven by Tamil nationalism while you respond strongly to Sinhala and Muslim critics of Tamil extremism.
As for growing up, your rude responses to people is rather characteristic of primary school kids calling each other nick names: Physician heal thyself.
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Native Vedda / November 18, 2017
loku malli
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“Everybody knows that you have an ax to grind with the “great leader”.
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No man is good enough to govern another man without that other’s consent – Abraham Lincoln.
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You don’t expect me to guess when you suddenly pop up here? When appropriate I have dealt with Anti Muslims commentators adequately. I cannot send my comment exclusively to you whenever you crave to read mine.
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Those who type here in this forum must earn respect from others if they so desired.
See Periathamby, when you throw stones aiming at others you also must prepare to receive some.
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Mohomad / November 16, 2017
Idiot Jim softy, how can Buddha a human being born in India, left his wife and family because he became jittery about death and suffering be a god?. So he joined the ascetics to search for the truth. Do you know the truth he conveyed to his people? Who created him and the people before him and after him? The world and universe? No Muslim go to Sri Pada and kneel there. No Muslims says the foot print or whatever it is that of Buddha. Prophet Muhammad banned drawing his picture or making idols of him because later the rogues will make pictures and idols and make people to worship him as god, god’s cousin or partner. Remember we Muslims don’t worship the dead Arab prophet Muhammad as god.
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SJ / November 16, 2017
Mohamad
But, did He not have a special relation with the Boss like JC before him and Moses even earlier?
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Ralli Ameen / November 24, 2017
He did not have any relation with JC or Mosses. He said they were prophets like him and a human being.
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Jim softy / November 16, 2017
So according to you, Allah is a Universe. I mean dust in the universe.
Believe me there are ten different Allahs.
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Mohomad / November 24, 2017
Universe is material, dust is material and Allah does not belongs to material world. I don’t think you have good brain to understand.
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Mallaiyuran / November 17, 2017
“Who created him and the people before him and after him?”
If you didn’t know, it was two monkeys did that job. They created the man before Buddha. Not Afghani or Arabian Donkeys!
Pretty bad job uh?
No so man, It is not that bad; Us, we the Lankaweyans were created by a lion! Nothing new in that, you see:Just a parallel story of how Kuran explaining how the god is creating men with the mass produced Chinese Political prisoners body parts to assemble men.
“Prophet Muhammad banned drawing his picture or making idols of him because later the rogues will make pictures and idols and make people to worship him as god, god’s cousin or partner.” If I were at his time, I would have advised him to ban his Kuran along with his statue, for once for all. Don’t you accept his statue could not have been misinterpreted as much as the his Kuran? Came on man tell me your true heart!
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Fathima / November 16, 2017
Be thankful that prophet banned building statues of him, otherwise, more than 8 million Sri Lankan Buddhist men and women would have either worshiped/kneeled the statue or made to worship by their Saudi bosses :-(
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Jim softy / November 16, 2017
Fathima: Prophet Banned building statues of him because that would affect other tribes believing him because he is not from their tribe. —-Tribal things happens in Saudi arabia even now. See how Saudi arabia arrested a ruler and their ministers from another mother but from the same king. Those days, they would have killed the prices instead of arresting. What you are following is not the Islam, it is Arabic culture. You cover up in order to escape severe heat from the sun.
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Fathima / November 17, 2017
Jim softy,
You’re a stupid person to think that statues would expose someone’s tribe, and then to think tribes influenced by anyways spreading of Islam.
Arabs had a reason to cover up their faces, and I have reason too. If you think all who cover up are following Arabic culture, it is your supidy. Why do you wear pants, shirts and suits for special occasions? I am not going to criticize that you’re folllowing English culture because I got a brain to think
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K.Pillai / November 16, 2017
Slave auction is now a thriving business in Libya. Remember who created the conditions for this to start?
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Muhandiram / November 17, 2017
The article is about the current developments in Saudi in particular and the Middle East in general but the vast majority of the comments are about Muslims in Sri Lanka, albeit prejudiced and communal. A sad reflection on our petty, narrow and bigoted mind-set. We have learnt nothing from the 30 year war that caused so much death, destruction, pain and pain to all of us.
Now, to the article itself. My short observation is that the Saudi Crown Prince, MbS, seems to on mission Self Destruct. Lets wait and see.
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Nikhil / November 17, 2017
The comments are because these Sri Lankan Muslims are very obsessed about what is happening in the Arabian Gulf and western Asia or middle east than the injustice in their own land. Unless it concerns them. May be because they think they are also Arabs and rightfully should belong to that part of the world , than to South Asia and are silent about the injustice and human rights abuses in the island, as they were also were in cohorts with every single ruling government and greatly contributed to it
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Rishard / November 17, 2017
Muhandram, don’t worry SL Muslims will never go for a war, not because they are peace-loving, but they are self-loving. They are brothers and sisters when there is a benefit, but when one in trouble, they don’t know each other.
Indians…
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