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Scots Have Voted! When Will Eelam Tamils Vote!!

By Rajasingham Jayadevan

Rajasingham Jayadevan

Rajasingham Jayadevan

The conduct and the outcome of the Scottish referendum for a separate state of Scotland has taught us many lessons. Beyond the outcome, peaceful campaign and management of the referendum are far reaching and is a lesson to be learnt by the pseudo democracies world over.

It is the will of the British parliament to accommodate a peaceful referendum for secession that must praised. The process was handled with mature sense throughout which is praiseworthy. There was no anti-Scot hate feelings let lose in the media or in the campaign. There was no police baton beating, not a bullet or tear gas being fired, there was no white vans or kidnaps or any form of physical violence. Instead all these were translated into responsible political debates and campaigns, paving the way for free and fair voting.

It was a very respectable campaign for a country that manages its affairs with an unwritten constitution. Respect for the views of the aggrieved, common-sense, mutual trust and to face the outcome with the broader shoulder were evident in the entire process of the referendum.

For the Scots, two issues were fundamental. Their Gaelic identity as a nation of people and their desire to govern themselves with their own fiscal strengths, as the heavily centralised financial control by the Westminster was an issue that were elementary to the campaign of the Scottish National Party (SNP).

The British media played a laudatory role to invoke mature debates on the Scottish separation. From the politicians and political pundits to ordinary civilians, all argued their views sensibly. When the first opinion poll gave a point lead to the ‘Yes’ vote, there was a sense of sadness amongst people in the South and it did not any way turn into highhanded anti-Scott/SNP tirades or animosities anywhere.

There was general fear that a ‘Yes’ vote will have serious consequences in political and economic sense for both the divide. The opinion poll in favour of the ‘Yes’ camp sent the initial shock wave through the financial market. If the ‘Yes’ vote had prevailed in the referendum, there would have been serious financial turmoil for the UK economy that could have led to unimaginable consequences.

Whilst I am writing this piece, one thought that overshadowed my thinking was why didn’t the tin-pot leaders of absurd democracies like Sri Lanka did not engage as spectators in the referendum process to understand the way a democracy should function on a very sensitive issue that involved parting of territorial sovereignty of a region.

A referendum of this nature is diabolical  for Sri Lanka and if there is a remote chance of this happening, the nation of Sri Lanka will be soaked in blood and the rabid crusaders will spearhead a campaign of vituperation of unimaginable scale. Without the guarantee of international security, a referendum of this kind cannot happen in Sri Lanka. The very entrenched government machinery would have undermined the effort to make it free and fair.

In the Scottish referendum campaign pro ‘Yes’ campaigners argued their case very well. They made use of the length of time since the announcement of the referendum to undertake a very interactive campaign. Whereas the ‘No’ camp pitched their campaign only lately. SNP leader Alex Salmond said the Scottish referendum is a “once in a generation opportunity” and results showed the demand for separation had grown from 10% thirty years ago to 45% a week ago in the referendum.

Though the Westminster was accused of spreading a fear campaign about the separation, the campaign on the whole was a mature process of claims and counter claims by both the parties.

Scots were promised wide raging devolution to the scale of a federal governance by the Westminster leadership in the campaign. The Labour Party that has major say in Scotland would have been the victim if Scotland had separated as they would have lost sizeable chunk of parliamentarians in the House of Commons. The composition of elected MP’s from Scotland in the 2010 election will confirm the scale of damage for the Labour Party.

Stat UKThe former Prime Minister Gordon Brown was praised for his mature campaign to influence the voters. Even Prime Minister David Cameron’s emotional appeal to the Scots went very well despite the Tories accounting for one parliamentarian from Scotland.

There is also need to consider a comparative analysis between the demand for referendum by the Scots and their counterparts Tamils in Sri Lanka.

The charter of the UN under article 1 states that: UN is ‘To develop friendly relations among nations based on respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples, and to take other appropriate measures to strengthen universal peace’. The Scots wanted this right to be exercised, though they did not suffer physical or mental persecution under Westminster rule. Their right to self determination was progressively recognised to the extent of some decision making powers being devolved to the Holyrood and though symbolic they successively gained recognition to use the Scottish currency notes in par with the British sterling pounds.

Though there is historical parallels between the Scots and the Tamils in Sri Lanka, the Tamils faced heavy handedness of the state of Sri Lanka to exercise their right of self determination. The British, handsomely handed over the exclusive territorial control to Colombo at independence without any regard to the separate sovereignties that existed when it took control of the island. It thought, the adequate safeguards in the Soulbury constitution will progressively transform Sri Lanka into a mature democracy. But all what happened in the post era was the hegemonic crusade of the majority exerting its overall control over all the minorities and Tamils became the primary persecuted race in the country.

If Scots were given the opportunity to exercise their right to self determination, its counterparts – the Tamils in Sri Lanka, have  much greater claim under the same right as there are a systematically persecuted race. The right exercised by the Scots will never materialise  for the Tamils due to the stubborn internal and regional constraints. However, if Tamil politics take a mitigating path to gain federal arrangement within Sri Lanka or to join India, there will be some hope of a referendum with international engagements.

The outcome of the Scottish referendum was a right one and was in the best interest Scots themselves. Business is normal in the United Kingdom following the referendum and the promises of wider devolution to the extent of federal states for the union regions and even to the English towns and villages will be a process from now onwards in the UK, whilst Tamils in the north will be struggling to manage the Northern Provincial government with the excessive outmanoeuvring and skulduggery of the state.

Persecution of the Tamils will continue until they are brought to the subservient standard to a manageable minority.

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    I have subscribed many a time to say that the Tamils of North and East in Sri Lanka should have a referendum to say Yes or NO and the Sri Lankan Government have to abide by the results and it should be conducted under the auspicious of the UN. The TNA and the Tamils will have to agitate towards this goal. I am sorry to state that the TNA is in a sad state.

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      Rajasingham Jayadevan –

      Scots Have Voted! When Will Eelam Tamils Vote!!

      They will not be given a chance to vote, because the outcome is clear.

      It will be similar to South Sudan ans East Timor.

      Most Tamils will vote for separation. Sinhala and Muslims will not. India would not like it either. Best Bet, join the UNP-JVP-DP alliance and defeat the family Hegemony.

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        Amare, tell me the difference between Mara’s family business and UNP when comes to ruling Tamils ? Which one is better. If one is a monster, the second one is a devil. Both these groups killed and maimed Tamils. Both these groups systematically descriminated Tamils from 1950s. From DSS, SWRD , Srimavo, JRJ, RP, Wijetunga,Chandrika, Ranil…to Mara, they all the same. No one wanted to give Tamils anything. That is the whole reason why Tamils knowingly supported a group like LTTE. They did not have a choice.
        Please tell me, what Tamils going to get by supporting the opposition ? nothing at all. What is the opposition going to do differently to Mara when comes to solving ethnic issue? Nothing. They still going to say there is no ethnic issue.
        Don’t worry about the referendum yet. What is the opinion of Sinhalese on combined North-East provinces ? They look at it as the first step towards a seperate country. Then, how it is even possible to think about holding a referendum ? Srilankans are not matured, not civilised enough to accept the freedom of a community to decide their own fate. We still live in a master – slave system, where we can dominate and annihilate a minority community.

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          Ranjith ,

          What you say is true and history.

          However, the immediate problem now is MaRa and the Family Hegemony?
          They may bribe others.

          There is no VP or LTTE to bribe by MaRa anymore.

          Britain did not want to give Independence to India. even after WW 2. Churchill was opposed to that.

          The Dutch went back to Indonesia after WW 2 and Japanese occupation. They had to fight for it.

          The French went back to Indo-China after WW 2. The Vietnamese had to fight for it.

          The French also went back to Algeria, The Algerians had to fight for it.

          Some problems take longer to solve than others. Unfortunately, the Problem is still festering. The curse of the Paras from South and East India on the Land of native Veddah Aethho.

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    Scotts made a union some times ago andnow they are tired in that and they want to go ?

    When did Tamils signed for a union.

    If British did not bring south Indian coolies, if Dutch did not establish thesavalami so that Tobacco farmers and migrating South Indian fishermen would stay in Yapanaya, there would not be a tamil population the north.

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      Jim softy, You are no softy. Call yourself Damn hardy.

      I know that you truly believe in what you say, when you say, ‘If British did not bring south Indian coolies, if Dutch did not establish thesavalami so that Tobacco farmers and migrating South Indian fishermen would stay in Yapanaya, there would not be a tamil population the north’.

      It is not your fault. It is the fault of those who spun those textbook stories you were rammed with when you were young.

      Today, you are in no mood to unlearn the lies you were taught, because you being a Sinhalese, such beliefs suits you.

      You ask, ‘When did Tamils signed for a union’. You are right. There is no signed Union, except for the Soulbury constitution, the British left you and us with.

      Tamil voice was suppressed in formulating the new Constitution of 1972.

      1972 Constitution took a monstrous departure from the old constitution. It removed even Section 29 of the Soulbury constitution, which provided protection to minorities by barring discrimination on grounds of status.

      Yes, there is no union between you and us. Let us exercise our right to go free.

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        when I was young it Lanka and Sinhale.

        Now, IT is Sri Lanka and I can not use the word Sinhale.

        that is how constitution screwed up us natives.

        Tamils got something.

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        Tamil voice was suppressed in formulating the new Constitution of 1972.

        This constitution was done up by people like Colvin R de Silva who were not racial bigots. So what happened?

        The Tamil voice had always asked for the impossible and by 1972 Colvin et al hasd abandoned them.

        In 1931 the Tamil leaders like Ramanathan rejected universal franchise etc., and asked for the incorporation of the caste system into the constitution, limiting the vote to upper caste people with wealth criteria.

        That was asking for the impossible from the Fabian government in White Hall.

        In the early 1940s, in dealing with Soulbury the Tamil congress leader GGP accused the British of discrimination against the tamils, and again reject universal franchize and suggested that the 10-25% (depending on how you count) Tamils be treated equal to the remaining mostly Sinhla 90-75%, with 50 seats for the first group, and 50 seats for the second group.

        Asking for the impossible!!!! Putting democracy on head -according to Soulbury.

        In 1949 the ITAK was formed by Chelvanayagam, V. Navaranam and others who felt that only a separate tamil kingdom would satisfy the needs the Tamils. The leadership was Christian. Most tamils did not go along with this Arasu program and it was rejected at the polls in 1952. Then SWDR was a god-send to the ITAK. Banda was really not a racist bigot although he was ready to exploit it. If the ITAK had acted like the Muslims and disarmingly embraced Banda’s language policy even partially, Banda would have had the political capital to recognize Tamil. But unfortunately the ITAK was, even in 1949, a determined Arasu group, with people like V. navaratnam who was the chief architect of the attack on the Banad-Chelva pact, organizing Sathyagrahas in Jaffna against it, even doing better than the KMPRajaratna crowd in the south. Basically, BC pact was not enough, we need arasu.

        Asking for the impossible.

        Although N. P. Perera, Colvin and others had consistently spoken for Tamil rights, never once did the ITAK (or the TC) attempt to come to an alliance with them. They were always let down by the ITAK which covertly even supported the caste system. There was no dialogue with the constitution makers of 1972 who would have accepted Tamil linguistic and cultural rights, but NOT ethnic-Tamil homeland arguments.

        At that time too it was asking for the impossible.

        Then came Vaddukoddai in 1976. By now political tempers were very hot. Yet, Amirthalaingam could have negotiated a deal with JR, and JR would have granted it, but Vaddukkoddai had pushed the balance too far. The TULF “boys” were too much for the Colombo visitors to the North. The “boys” hijacked the Legitimate Tamil nationalist movement. assassinated Amirthalaingam and also killed the last hopes for a reasonable settlement.

        Any good will that existed was burned down in the pogrom of 1983. Even the moderate Tamils (and even some sinhalese) who could have mediated left the country in pain fear and anger.

        The Indians came to impose what they thought was a reasonable solution. But the Tamil leader (and his henchmen) rejected it and fought a war hoping to achieve the impossible.

        Indians left. Prabhakaran killed 600 policemen negating the hand of friendship offered by Premadasa to drive out the ITAK. Both sides began a program of Terror, without counting the fact that the Tamils are numerically outnumbered by 10 to one.

        But the poor Vanni people were asked to do the impossible by Prabhakaran and his funding masters living abroad, sacrificing their children and women to the war ensuring genocide if carried on for a sufficiently long time.

        From then on, through Thimpu, through Thiruchelvan, CFA etc, the Tamil leadership, now personified by Prabhakaran and the TNA (as mere yes men),
        just asked for what had become impossible, even at to the very end in Nandikadal.

        Have the Tamil leaders found a creditable modus operandai even now? Their efforts to use India and apply the big stick on the present rulers have crashed, with Moodi in power and Jayalalitha in jail. The west is in disarray under the Islamic threat. The Tamil leaders have so-far failed to see how to muster strength within Lanka by taking the high moral path that it should have followed from the beginning. That is the only path available to a minority. But proud, hubris filled people like V. Navaratnam, SJV Chelva, and EMVNaganathan were sure of themselves, even if the odds were 10 to 1, as it seemed to them that, at that time, the Tamils controlled trade, Banking, shipping, the public service etc., well represented in the army, and were leaders in commerce etc.

        So why not Arasu? They thought it was possible and rolled the dice in 1949. But the gamble failed.

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          There are so many flaws in your post! You have painted JRJ as a reasonable man; the reality was far from it when it came to the Tamils anyway!

          You will need to read the chronicles of T. Sabaretnam in order to learn what really went on during the JRJ era; you will be shell-shocked to know the brutality of the regime. The thuggry he introduced is still be felt in manifold!

          Jayalaitha has rightly been convicted. If anyone cannot account for their astronomical wealth, should be held to account. The same scenario will one day fall on the Rajapaksas. Modi means business, he will ensure SL will abide by the 13A plus scenario come what may. TNA have no option but to seek help from Modi as no Sinhala can be trusted when it comes to the Tamils! What a reputation to have!

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      Jim,

      Why do you play your Brocken record over and over?

      Most of the Indian migrants have been assimilated into which society? Sinhala or Tamil? Please do dome research before blasting out garbage!

      The Dutch simply codified the existing custom by way of Thesawalami. It is mainly about resolving family disputes and there is no evidence what so ever that it is in anyway inimical to the none Jaffna Tamils. So, unless you provide evidences to the contrary, you need stop writing such unsubstantiated nonsense.

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        “The Dutch simply codified the existing custom by way of Thesawalami.

        ????

        No sir, Thesawalami did not exist as a custom or as a codified law during Sankili/AryaChakravarthi times or when the Poruguese came to the North.
        Thesawalami practices existed in Malabar coast.

        The Thesavalami customs came when the malabaras were brought to Ceylon by the colonial powers.

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          Mister,

          I have debated this extensively on Groundviews. Before I start, can you substantiate your statement below:

          “The Thesavalami customs came when the malabaras were brought to Ceylon by the colonial powers.”

          I want you to show this in deeds not by mere sentences.

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      Jim Stupidity,

      If the Portuguese and Dutch did not bring south Indian coolies and settle them in the Southern parts of Sri Lanka from Puttalam up to Matara for Cinnamon farming, fishing, coconut farming, toddy tapping, etc who later changed their names to Portuguese/Sinhala to hide their South Indian identity and became Sinhala-Buddhists/Catholics, there would not be a Low country Sinhala population the South and there will not be any Jim Softy to comment here. Thank those Parangis for bringing those coolies (your forefathers) from South India to the cinnamon farms in the South.

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    Scots Have Voted! When Will Eelam Tamils Vote!!

    Yes Eelam Tamils must vote. But to go to their local polling station they must first find Eelam on the map.

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      Rattan you IDIOT:

      The only map in which you don’t find Elam is the Sinhala Map but that is to be expected. Every other Nation that matters recognises Eelam and if you wont proof here it is.

      1) The mightiest Nation on Earth has already stated that in Sri Lanka there is North & South divide .
      2) Did you see the Northern “CM” with the British “PM” on the balcony. Recognition of the Former Colonial Master of the existence of Eelam.
      3) The Current Colonial Power India has a Consul General Office in Eelam which again is a Recognition. Why do you think India doesn’t have one in ” Anuradhapura”.

      WAKE UP MAN

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        kali banistani

        When are you going to send your Tamil Eelam Army to liberate Jail Lalitha from Modi’s penitentiary?

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          Foreign:

          You are back to your old tricks Ignorant & Idiot . Jeyalalitha has been here before and has come back. It is a bit complicated for your brain and just like AR Rehmans story. I don’t have time to waste explaining to you and the rest of the 20 Million Idiots.
          Jeyalalitha being temporarily out has created a vacuum and that has presented BJP with an opportunity to strengthen their power base and they haven’t wasted any time. This couldn’t have come at a worst time for your boss MR the Headless THUG.
          Modi has already shown his affection for Jeyalalitha by saying that the Law must be applied to the highest standard.
          It was a stitch up Job by DMK when they were in Power and the action was initiated by the Department on the orders of DMK.

          18 June 1996 – The then DMK led government registeres First Investigation Report (FIR) against Jayalalithaa
          21 June 1996 – On the directions of Principal Sessions Court, Latika Saran, the then DSP of Tamil Nadu investigates the complaint.
          4 June 1997 – Chargesheet filed in the case against four of the accused Jayalalithaa, Sasikala, Ilavarasi and Sudhakaran
          21 October 1997 – The special court frames charges against all the accused
          14 May 2001 – Jayalalithaa led ADMK comes back to power in Tamil Nadu
          28 February 2003 – K. Anbazhagan, the secretary of DMK, files appeal in Supreme Court to transfer proceedings outside Tamil Nadu quoting fair trial
          18 November 2003 – Supreme Court orders the trial to be moved Bangalore, Karnataka
          March 2005 – Trial commences in special court in Bangalore
          December 2010 to February 2011 – Re-examination of witnesses by prosecution
          20, 21 October and 22, 23 November 2011 – Jayalalithaa appears in person in court and answers questions
          13 August 2012 – Special Public Prosecutor, B.V. Acharya resigns quoting efforts transferring him
          2 February 2013 – G. Bhawani Singh appointed as the special public prosecutor
          26 August 2013 – Karnataka government removes G. Bhawani Singh as prosecutor
          7 September 2013 – Supreme court reinstates G. Bhawani Singh as the special public prosecutor [19]
          28 August 2014 – Trial concludes and court decides 20 September as the date of sentence
          16 September 2014 – Court allows appeal of Jayalalithaa to move proceedings to different court and sentence to 27 September on the grounds of security.[12]
          27 September 2014 – Court pronounces verdict – all four convicted were sentenced.[20] Jayalalithaa is presently lodged in the Parappana Agrahara central jail in Bangalore, as also three others.
          29 September 2014 – Jayalalithaa files bail plea in Karnataka HC.[21]

          So stop Gloating over the temporary difficulty.

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      They probably just didn’t check the right places. There must be shops selling maps of places like Middle Earth, Thamizh Eezham, Atlantis etc :D

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        Siva Sankaran Sarma Menon

        Brilliant

        May I add few other places such as Kumari Kandam (Gondawana Land),peacefully rising Middle Kingdom, Sinhala/Buddhist kingdom, Malaya Desam, Sinhala/Buddhist ghetto, ….. Harappa, Mohanja Daro, …. first to third Changam, ……

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    Jaydevan,

    These “pie-in-the-sky” concerns and discussions serves very little purpose. They appear to be just your desperate attempt to claw back some credibility among the populace (both communities), now that the puckering up to the regime has obviously misfired.

    Can I thus turn to a current event and ask two very simple questions – actually I extend this to both Rajasinghams, Jeyadevan and Narendran.

    First, are you pro or against an “independent international investigation on the war crime allegations against both the Government and LTTE?”

    Please no long-drawn diatribe about irrelevant issues – be upright in your response, basically, either “Yes, I am pro investigation as stated” or “no, I am against such investigation”.

    Second, on a related issue, and in line with your recent tuk-tuk revelations, what do you think is the “majority” view in the North, an area where you both have repeatedly claimed to have a grip on ground realities? What is your impression as to whether the majority of Tamils in the North provinces favour such an investigation or not?

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      Kumar R

      You appear to harp at both the brothers (us) for reasons unknown. We have no reasons to come to forums like this to prove ourselves-who we are. It is your ostrich thinking that has to change, without harping at us nonsensically. You know who Dr Rajasingham Narendran and his brother Rajasingham Jayadevan are. But we or anyone contributing to this forum do not know who you are still and you appear to take too much comfort in that to go on your prejudicial/hate hypes. From your attitude, we know who you are and these have been revealed elsewhere by others.

      You are entitled to agree or disagree on what we say but do not expect us or anyone to bow down to your disparaging crusade.

      With regard to the“independent international investigation on the war crime allegations against both the Government and LTTE?” in view of the life threatening circumstances involved, UN is inviting submissions anonymously. For your information, my experience though lived in the UK for 35 years is very intricate and extensive and I fall within the criteria set for UN investigation. I have submitted my own experience to the UN and wish to maintain confidentiality as far as the contents are concerned to ensure that I do not hinder the UNHRC process in any way.

      Further, I have assisted others in the Tamil Diaspora to submit their own statements. When there are compelling and circumstantial evidence I am there to help. This is even available to the families of the dead soldiers dumped in the sea in body bags.

      With regard to your mindless slander of my ‘Tuk Tuk’ assessment, Uva results must have thought you the lesson. if my Tuk Tuk findings progress from where I left, my assessment will be reflected in the forthcoming Presidential election.

      Stop playing Goni Billa games. Tare your mask and be a honest man to confront us honestly.

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        Jayadevan,

        Take a deep breath – your fear of “gonibilla” and reference to “harping… for unknown reasons” are all symptoms of that phenomenon “arandavanukku irundathelam pei!”

        Let me be a little elaborate in this response with two aims, first to put your mind at ease with regard to your unwarranted fears about a personal avenge or stalking, and second, in the light of the comments below to let you re-visit some of the recent discussions to get some clarity about my critical view of your write-ups.

        Be assured that you and I do not know each other from Adam, at personal level. All I know about you and the impressions I have of you are entirely based on your profuse writings in these blog-spaces. I am also absolutely certain you don’t know me personally, except thorough the sporadic comments I make in these same spaces. Please go back and read any of my comments or responses to your or RN’s write-ups, and see if you can find even one instance of my critique that would suggest otherwise – that I have some personal information or connection or even interest in you at a personal level.

        However, if you still would prefer to go with “we know who you are and these have been revealed elsewhere by others,” just because that gives you some comfort somehow, please be my guest – it matters not one whit to me.

        You are mistaken – I frequently take issue with not just RN and you, but more so frequently, and for a longer period of time, with Dayan, Rajiva and a few others who have established some academic and professional standing and still act very selfishly and irresponsibly, as I see it. That was the reason behind my lambasting.

        Frankly, I don’t recollect commenting or being critical on any of your earlier postings, except after your piece on tuk-tuk – perhaps I may have commented before, but do not recall any.

        Here is what pushed me to insert my two-cent’s worth in your tuk-tuk story. One commenter (perhaps two) tried to inform you of the failings of your survey methodology completely in justifying the inference you drew – and your flippant, if not arrogant, and almost “shut-your-mouth-up” response was entirely uncalled for, and that is what attracted my attention, and my decision to respond. I am truly flabbergasted that you continue to have confidence in that piece of silliness (I will explain that in a minute) you managed to pass off as worthy of publication, authored by a respectable, educated scientist! I am flabbergasted, not just by your writing, but by the fact that it managed to pass the CT filter!

        At the risk of boringly repeating what I have already written let me explain why the tuk-tuk story holds absolutely no water, despite your delusion.

        The original Mervyn truism was based on the role of paddy farming in the country at that time – expressed in a light-hearted rhyme as “Paddy cultivation is the primary occupation of our population!” If you just said that you did a quick informal survey of tuk-tuk drivers and was able to identify some dominant pattern to draw some seemingly useful inference, then that would have been perfectly fine. The first blunder was likening your back-of-the-napkin type effort to the profound wisdom of Mervyn – that was nothing but a desperate attempt at establishing credibility that wasn’t there. The second blunder was the ill-founded assertion “the tuk-tuk-drivers may have come from rural areas and so their interests and aspirations would reflect that of the paddy farmers.”

        Just think clearly for a moment. It is a very heroic assumption that they, to a larger extent, must have came from paddy villages. With no rhyme or reason, you are blindly ruling out a multitude of other possibilities – fisher folk, tea, rubber, coconut or other plantation villages, or perhaps even second generation slum-dwellers from urban areas.

        And, even if, as you want to assume for your convenience, these tuk-tuk drivers actually originated from rural paddy farming villages, then isn’t it the case that these are guys who have voluntarily opted to give-up paddy farming? Why would they then have preference for political leadership that favours paddy production concerns rather than other sectors of the economy that would be of direct benefit to them, such as tourism, transportation issues etc. Why would their focus be on the sector they have chosen to abandon rather than be concerned about their current livelihood?

        Your comment boasting of tuk-tuk divining of Uva outcome reflects a rather acute sense of naiveté.

        Every segment of the economy, to a large degree, is displeased with the regime, particularly those in the mid- and low- income groups. So, as I said, whether you interview tuk-tuk drivers, bus drivers, factory workers, clerical staff, Middle-east maid-dependent families or any other non-capitalist segment of the population, any and all of that would have quite readily unearthed the growing disgruntlement against the regime that was reflected in the Uva results. The Uva results does not uniquely testify to tuk-tuk driver sentiments, and tuk-tuk drivers are in no way a unique indicator of Paddy-farming sentiments of Mervyn’s truism.

        Now, that raises an interesting, but unfortunate question – what could have motivated your undue “deep stretch” in linking your work to the credible and respected view of Mervyn? Wasn’t that ego driven – just so as to get some credibility and glory that wasn’t really there?

        It was immensely humerous that you would choose to respond “Mervyn and my dad got along well, in the media”! Less said the better on that!!

        So let me ask you again, what was your motive in linking your tuk-tuk to Mervyn’s wisdom though such a flimsy thread (“they may have come from paddy farming”)? Wasn’t that ego driven, to gain some credibility that wasn’t there to start with?

        Similarly, can you explain this latest faked concern “When Will Eelam Tamils Vote!” – Many, aside from me, have pointed out the silliness of the concept you want to highlight, headline. Hopefully, some of those comments help you see light, even if my attempts fail. Isn’t it a pie-in-the-sky nonsense? What is your motive or objective, if not an opportunistic attempt at clawing back some credibility and sympathy among a segment of Tamil population – an effort to repair some burned bridges perhaps? If that is not the case, can you clarify your objective?

        My view is that educated, professionals and intellects have a much greater responsibility in what they say to unsuspecting audience. The responsibility of the politicians is much less – after all one could even say that it is their ability to hoodwink that often gets them the votes. People take what politicians say with a pinch, or perhaps a handful, of salt. They are prepared and conditioned to filter-out trash. But, when they listen to academics, intellects and educated professionals, the trust is much, much greater – and so they are substantially more vulnerable. It is on that basis that Dayan, Rajiva, RN and lately you after the tuk-tuk story came to my attention.

        As for why some chose to by anonymous, I am sure you have heard of the wisdom “it is easier to wake up someone who is asleep than to wake up someone pretending to sleep!” However, in case you truly cannot figure the need, usefulness or wisdom of anonymity, as I have advised RN, Dayan and a few other bloggers of similar seemingly faked bewilderment, my suggestion is please ask CT editorial their decision to permit anonymity – and I am certain they will enlighten you appropriately.

        This is already much longer than I had planned. So I will stop here, except to say that my criticism of RN’s writings was similarly in view of disingenuous and sanctimony-of-convenience in his discussions, leading up to RN confessing his delusion about the unique clairvoyance gained via veterinary training. It was not personal. If you like, I will be happy to explain further in a separate comment.

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          Kumar R.

          I regret, I never asked you to be my Guru. Your paranoiac blurs on my findings and assessment during my brief visit to Sri Lanka lately that I correlated with my previous findings was vulgarised with your limited knowledge of the ground realities.

          I do not object to someone disagreeing with me but to behave like an idiotic Guru to pontificate me or anyone else is exceeding the limits. Whatever hypes you may promote about others, they speak volume of your blinkered image and rationale.

          I have come across many such rabid harpers and my response to you specifically is not to side-track, concoct and extend prejudices so absurdly.

          Please read this couple of times in front of the mirror. Then you will get the wisdom to understand that you cannot be the Guru unnanse any more.

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            It does not surprise me that you would get your knickers in a twist, having witnessed your tuk-tuk wisdom, or “my dad and Mervyn got along well in the media, so what I say must be right” rationalization along with the seemingly hereditary susceptibility to delusion of mystical powers.

            Truth hurts – and so your running-off-the-rail was not unexpected – who wouldn’t when exposed of the stupidity and the stealth of nefarious motives behind such amateurish attempt that blows up in ones face.

            Go ahead, write another diatribe of matching silliness based on deluded intellect.

            Your guruwanse.

            (Thank you for the recognition!)

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            Incidentally Jaydevan,

            Your response exemplifies the ancient wisdom “kutram ulla manne me krukurukkum!” If your motives in penning the articles had any honour what so ever, and were not nefarious as I seemingly correctly surmised, you would have had the decency to try answer directly rather than try to heap unfounded accusations.

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              Kumar R.

              Self made Guru Unnanse! please stop pontificating. Clearly, you are struggling to extricate your twisted knickers. Please unravel it patiently without your blood getting over boiled.

              Why don’t you join one the monasteries of a religion of your choice and become a titled Guru Unnanse. Your service is very much needed for Rajapakse & Co., at this critical time. Like you they too are struggling with their twisted knickers and your expertise to loosen them will be a useful process.

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                The best you could do – ha?!

                Well, on second thoughts, this piece may be relatively more intelligent than the land-mark tuk-tuk divinity or the sucking-up desperate attempt to revive some Tamil sympathy.

                You have a rather long way to go to think clearly. Contact your guruwanse any time you need guidance – would be prudent before rather than after churning-up your next piece of rubbish!

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                And one other thing.

                Thanks but no thanks for declaring your intimacy with knowing how to handle soiled knickers! Wonder if gained at professional or recreationl endevours.

                Your guruwanse.

                Note: You truly don’t know when or how to stop digging deeper. I believe I mentioned this in an earlier incident as well!

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                  Kumar R

                  Having eaten the humble pie. belly aching is it?

                  Your rants are endless. Continue with your ignoramus crusade.

                  Have you found any disciples to call you the Guru unnanse.

                  Why don’t you become the sole Guru for Sajin Vass Gunawardene. He seriously needs some bashing of your type to un-entangle his twisted knickers.

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                    Oh Jayadevan dear,

                    While there is some delight in seeing you squirm, being agitated, unable to write anything even semi-coherent, it is still somewhat difficult not to feel a degree of sympathy at your deepening discomfort – But what can I do? Digging deeper seems you specialty!

                    Three quick points:

                    First, it seems I have sent you on an unending fetish-fantasy with a common, innocent idiom I used. Here is the definition of “get your knickers in a twist” from the Cambridge Advanced Learners Dictionary & Thesaurus © Cambridge University Press: “get your knickers in a twist” (UK informal humorous)- › to become confused, worried, or annoyed about something. – (Note: Nothing vulgar or anything close to that)

                    You are welcome to dwell on that garment as much as you like, but hanging onto that for three responses in a row, particularly having described your visuals of a soiled one, is quite nauseating – please keep your private fantasies to yourself- no one else needs to know about that.

                    Second, sure Sagin Vass is an equal imbecile, IQ-wise, and could do with some productive guidance that you are smart enough to recognize. However, how he differs from you is that he is not roaming around with the delusion that he is an intellect: proof – have you seen him contribute anything close to the “tuk-tuk wisdom” or “Tamil’s opportunity to vote” type of silliness, and do that with pride.

                    Third, I will reserve my Guruwanse-attributes just for your sole needs – on account of the fact that you need it more than anyone I know. So, feel free to get back to me anytime you have some inkling that it would be good to get your thinking checked out. Incidentally, the Guruwanse-responsibility was not self appointed/claimed – rather, if you go back and read your own writing three or four responses back, you will realize who actually made that nomination – and I did humbly thank you for that.

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    Dear Jeyadevan,
    No referendum, all down to India…u like it or not, Sinhala knows very well.

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    Greater devolution to the periphery is the only way to preserve democracy and social cohesion. It will help to suppress or minimise demands for separation. On the other hand if majoritarianism and subjugation of the smaller nations continue to prevail it will only push the smaller nations either towards separation or other ways and means of resisting subjugation even to the extent of becoming part of an adjoining country! This is not a threat but an inevitable natural process!

    Sengodan. M

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    Wasn’t the Scottish referendum about restoring the sovereignty to the rightful owners of the country of Scotland which existed for over 2000 years, until the Poms conquered ?.

    Should this referendum which the Diaspora dudes are demanding be to ask Yes or No from Vellalas whether they want to go back to Tamil Nadu?.

    Unless they had a nation of their own before, like the Atlantis….

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    The second part of the caption sounds like a question but no question mark/s.

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    From what I have read “Eelam” is an Indian Tamil name for the whole of Sri Lanka. The Sri Lankan Tamil name for Sri Lanka is (Sri) Ilankai.

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    When will tamils vote?…….NEVVVVVEEER !

    Ennada …Thambi… ! Get over it ! its done and dusted !

    now’s the time to get on with life !

    This is the POST-ELAAM period. Stop dreaming wake-up

    Act together as true Sri Lankans….lets develop this country….for the betterment of all. If you can’t stomach it.. emigrate to Tamil Naadu.

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    It never happen.
    Sri Lanka has uneducated MPs. They do not understand what is drug, corruption, and Bribery.
    Can they understand human Rights or Self Determination?
    All the presidents would like to have the power, so they corrupt the country.
    We need to have President like Singapore to have the self determination.

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    Jayadevan must be living in the seventh cloud of Cuckooland. Scots had all the right to go for a referendum for separation because Scotland was an independent country, before it was annexed by the English to form the Great Britain. But the Tamils have no right to go for a referendum, because the North & East of Sri Lanka were never a separate state and was a part of independent Sri Lanka from the time immemorial, Just because they migrated to Sri Lanka from Tamil Nadu in India over the years (mainly illegally), it does not give any right for them to ask for separation. Sri Lanka belongs to Sinhalese and it is Tamil Nadu in South India that belongs to Tamils . They can fight for a separate state there for which the all Sri Lankans will give their fullest support.

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      Don and others,

      Scotland is a federal state of Great Britain. If Scots had all the rights to go for a referendum for separation because Scotland was an independent country before it was annexed by the English to form the Great Britain, then the Sri Lankan Tamils have even more rights than the Scots to go for a referendum for separation because the Tamil speaking North & East of Sri Lanka was an independent State (Kingdom) before it was annexed by the British to form the unitary Sri Lanka.

      The East Bengal or East Pakistan was not known as Bangladesh, a separate nation or even a nationality by anybody in this world until India intervened and made them a country. No state (country) on this planet has designated South Sudanese as a nation until UN intervened and made them a separate country. The same story continues with several others who have become a nation. All nations (separate countries) that have come into being in recent years following the United Nations intervention and referendums such as ‘Kosovo’, ‘East Timor’, ‘Montenegro’ and so on were NEVER recognized by any state/country or international organization in this world as a separate nation or nationality until they were established as separate countries.

      The North & East of Sri Lanka was known to the Tamils as ‘Tamil Eelam’ (Tamil part of Sri Lanka, Eelam is another word for Sri Lanka). The North & East of Sri Lanka (Tamil Eelam) has all the necessary criteria to become a separate nation/country (Tamil Kingdom/homeland was grabbed by the Portuguese and later given to the Sinhalese on a platter by the British). It is time for Britain (who created this mess) and the International Organizations such as UN and other states/countries (where Sri Lankan Tamil diaspora lives) to call for a referendum for the North & East Tamils of Sri Lanka.

      Remember what Dr. Colvin R. De Silva said in 1956,

      “if you mistreat them (Tamils), if you ill treat them…. if you oppress and harass them, in the process you may cause to emerge in Ceylon, from that particular racial stock with its own language and tradition, a new nationality to which we will have to concede more claims than it puts forward now… If we come to the stage where instead of parity, we through needless insularity, get into the position of suppressing the Tamil … federal demand… there may emerge separatism.” (Dr. Colvin R. De Silva, Opposition Member of Parliament, Hansard, June 1956).

      Whoever Dr. Colvin R. De Silva was, but what he predicted in 1956 may become a reality in 2056 or even before.

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    Eelam vs Ilankai

    Ilankai இலங்கை = Sri Lanka in Tamil. My suggestion to “Eelam Tamils” – they could just add the honorific “Sri” and get used to calling themselves Sri Ilankan (or Lankan) Tamils rather than Ceylon Tamils or Eelam Tamils. They can have the whole island, sharing it with other citizens and residents.

    The respected archaeologist Paul E Pieris, who did excavations at Nallur and Vallipuram in Jaffna, said in 1917 that there were Tamil settlements and Shiva kovils (the five ishwarams) in coastal Sri Lanka even before the legendary arrival of Vijaya in 543 BC. There have been Tamil settlements in the north, east, south and west since then, but the Tamil land was not contiguous. The idea that the North and East were a single kingdom ruled by Tamils is a fiction. Though the Koneswaram Temple in Trincomalee is very ancient, the port of Gokarna (Trincomalee) was ruled by the Kandyan kingdom when the Portuguese took control of it.

    The history of the Jaffna Kingdom of the Arya Chakravartis is found in the Yalpana Vaipava Malai, which was written by a Tamil poet for the Dutch Governor Jan Maccara in 1736. It was translated to English by C Brito in 1879 titled in English ‘The History of the Kingdom of Jaffna’. The Yalpana Vaipava Malai begins the account with the Sinhalese legends of Vibhishana and Ravana followed by a slightly different version of the story of Vijaya, who it claims was a staunch worshipper of Shiva. According to the Yalpana Vaipava Malai:

    “About two thousand four hundred years ago, Sinhabahu a Kshatriya of Banga was king of Lada. His eldest son, Vijaya-kumara, a lawless youth, rendered himself extremely hateful to his countrymen, and was in consequence expelled [from] the kingdom. The exile wandered from place to place in search of asylum, but he found none. When at last he reached Kashi he was informed in a dream that Langka was assigned to him for a heritage and that he should go thither and establish himself at Kathirai-malai in the centre of the country…

    “In those days Langka was a great wilderness, inhabited only by the Vedar and wild animals. There were no human beings in it.” (p.1-2)

    So who were the Vedar? It sounds like this influential book of Tamil history is saying that the truly indigenous people of Sri Lanka – the Veddas – are not “human beings”.

    Archaeologists have also found that the Jaffna peninsula had ancient Buddhist temples, as well as Hindu kovils and there was also the magnificent Tenavaram temple in Dondra in the south. All these coastal temples were razed to the ground by the Portuguese but there remains enough historical evidence to show a long Tamil presence, dating back thousands of years, in coastal areas in the south as well as the north, east and wast.

    The Jaffna Kingdom of the Arya Chakravartis with its capital at Nallur had connections with the Koneswaram temple in Trincomalee, and at times ruled over the Vanni chieftains. It had control, at times of the pearl fields at Mannar. The founder of the Jaffna Kingdom, Kalinga Magha (reigned 1215 to 1236) conquered most of Sri Lanka. Magha was a Hindu fanatic who persecuted Buddhism, and is known to history a Magha the Tyrant. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalinga_Magha

    The descendants of Kalinga Magha ruled the Jaffna peninsula from the 1200s till the last king of Jaffna, Sankili was defeated by the Portuguese in 1619. For most of Sri Lanka’s recorded history, though, the north of Sri Lanka was dominated by the ancient kingdom of Rajarata with its capital at Anuradhapura. There is now evidence of human settlements at Anuradhapura dating back to 800 BC, which is, again, earlier than Vijaya’s arrival. So who were the people who lived in Anuradhapura prior to the arrival of Vijaya? Were they Veddas, or Tamils/Dravidians or Nagas or Yakshas?

    During the long rule of Sinhalese kings in Rajarata the north of the island was the most densely populated part of Sri Lanka despite its relative aridity. This was because of the monumental irrigation systems built and maintained by these kings and the rice-based economy they enabled. The ancient tanks were abandoned for hundreds of years and the north was infested by malaria until the use of DDT during WWII enabled the north to be populated and irrigated again.

    The restoration of these ancient irrigation works has allowed new agricultural settlements to be established, which were unfortunately called “colonization schemes”. The very name is bound to bring opposition, and there has been loud opposition to “Tamil lands” being “colonized” by Sinhalese. These colonization schemes have changed the demographic of the Eastern Province in particular, since most of the colonists have been Sinhalese villagers (as was the case for hundreds of years during the Rajarata and Ruhuna kingdoms).

    Since the end of the war there has been a systematic effort by the government to restore the ancient irrigation systems in the north, east and south of the island. This is necessary and desirable for growing rice and other crops. The claim that it is “Sinhalese colonization of Tamil lands” can be countered by the government making sure that the settlers are not chosen on the basis of race and language but on need and ability to use the irrigation water wisely and effectively.

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      This dude sounds v reasonable and convincing…I gave him a “Like” too..

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      Dr Romeah,

      “The respected archaeologist Paul E Pieris, who did excavations at Nallur and Vallipuram in Jaffna, said in 1917 that there were Tamil settlements and Shiva kovils (the five ishwarams) in coastal Sri Lanka even before the legendary arrival of Vijaya in 543 BC. There have been Tamil settlements in the north, east, south and west since then, but the Tamil land was not contiguous.”

      Most Tamils know that their ancestors lived in all parts of island since time immortal. But the reality now is that, the Sinhala Buddhists are the majority and since 1948, democracy as cover, they have been busy building a Sinhala Buddhist state. They have not given even an iota for the Sri Lankan identity. 30 year war with many lives lost on both sides, still no relenting on their quest! The Tamils had to think about their identity and safety amid the Sinhala aggression; it is natural for them to think about where they predominantly inhabited.

      So, I suggest you write to your fellow Sinhala Buddhists advising them to stop promoting Sinhala Buddhism and respect diversity and languages. You need to educate them to give space for the minorities to freely practice their languages and religions. As for you, you need to stop sounding condescending and understand the unfortunate predicament of the Tamils in terms of a battered minority and fight for their rights as a decent human being. If you cannot do it, you need to shut up, as we do not need your ostensible comments!

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        BI,

        “So, I suggest you write to your fellow Sinhala Buddhists advising them to stop promoting Sinhala Buddhism and respect diversity and languages.”

        I am not a Sinhala Buddhist. I have no problem with Sinhalese Buddhists promoting their culture, language and religion, though of course everyone should respect diversity and other languages, including yourself.

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          Dr Romesh,

          “I am not a Sinhala Buddhist.”

          It is often said that actions speak louder than words! I judge by what you write on these forums; if you are not a Sinhala Buddhist and then your allegiance to it is conspicuous!

          “I have no problem with Sinhalese Buddhists promoting their culture, language and religion”

          How conveniently you have read it literally! I too am not against the Sinhala Buddhists promoting themselves without total patronage of the state. The issue is that, The Sinhala Buddhists and the state are inextricable interconnected. State sponsored Buddha projects are afoot throughout the N&E instilling discomfort and suspicions among the Tamils. The army is acquiring private land at will; Sinhala only colonisations are in progress with full backing the state and army. Do you support such Sinhala Buddhist promotions?

          You do not seem to worry about such activities but you are very keen to ask the Tamils think of them as Sri Lankans! Wow, how do I categorise you then? You are more like a Romesh Senewiratne than Alagaratnam, right? Your father certainly has understood the real nature of the Sinhala Buddhist Fundamentalism; you on the other hand manifest total naivety or a calculated insidious approach!

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      Dr.Romesh,
      through the
      Solutions to the communal problems- the Tamil and Muslim issues- have to found based on current realities. Delving into a history that is being distorted by word and letter by the day and altered on the ground in a pre-planned and furtive manner, will not get us anywhere.

      Not withstanding the above, we have to also pay serious attention to poetical evidence and legends that have reached us fog of our long existence in the land that has beome an island now.

      As legend would have it, the Kumari Kandam/ Lost Lemuria was a large land mss extending from the present Indian subcontinent to Austrlia on one side and South Africa on the other. Sangam poetry and legends identify place names, Kingdoms and rivers in this land mass. Lanka/Eelam of old was part of this landmass and the present day Sri Lanka is what is left of it. Sinhala legend too tell the story of how huge parts of the Kingdom of Kelaniya was lost to the sea. South Indian legends and poetry also record how this land mass, including the site of the first Sangam was lost.

      Further, modern genetic marker studies have identified the Sri Lankan Tamils as being a distinct people, along with of course the Veddas. Sinhalese have both a Vedda and Indian Tamil admixture. When Buddha visted the Kelaniya Kinfdom of old it was ruled by the Nagas and this would lead one to believe that they ruled over naga people. Similarly, when Buddha visited the Nagadipa in the north, he met with Naga Kings, who also probably ruled a Naga people.
      The early Kings in Anugramam (present Aunuradapura) were also Nagas. It is probale that we were all originally Nagas. The Naga (cobra) symbol ubiquitous over the whole of Sri Lanka point to thislikelihood.

      Further, genetic studies may clarify and underline our commoness in the coming years. The relationship of the Veddas, to the Veddars in South India and the Aboriginals in Australia, may validate the story of the Kumari Kandam. This legend will also explain the isolation of the Africoid Andamanese in the Andaman-Nicobat islands. Further, underwater photography is slowly revealing man made structures under the sea in and around India.

      Our history is yet an unknown, unfathomed, misunderstood and distorted story.

      Dr.Rajasingham Narendran

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        Dr Narendran,

        Thanks for the interesting response. I don’t think the legend of Kumari Kandam and lost Lemuria are supported by science. Although the extent of the land around Sri Lanka and India was larger (by some 20 km at most) in some areas, the sea levels being lower during the last Ice Age, there has been no evidence of a large submerged continent (Lemuria). The exciting underwater archaeology along the Indian coast has revealed ruins showing that some of the coastal cities are now under water, but this does not prove the legend of Kumari Kandam or Lemuria.

        The DNA evidence is interesting, but limited. From what I have read (including Kshatriya’s famous paper) the Sinhalese and Tamils of Sri Lanka are more closely related to each other than either population to the Indians or Veddhas. What is your opinion?

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          Romesh,

          In 1995, Dr. R. Jayasekara , Human Genetics unit, Faculty Medicine, University of Colombo, Sri Lanka and his team collected blood samples in Colombo and surrounding areas from 102 Sinhalese, 100 Tamils, 103 Burghers, 100 Muslims (Moors) and 103 Muslims (Malays) who were healthy, normal and unrelated individuals. Altogether 608 blood samples were collected and transported by air to the department of Human Genetics. University of New Castle. In the final analysis, the Sinhalese and the Tamil Population of Sri Lanka appear to be the descendants of a single genetic group who had occupied this country from ancient times. DNA of Tamil Nadu Tamils is matching the Sinhalese, Tamils, and Muslims (Moors).

          None can dispute the fact that Tamil speaking Muslims (Marakkala Minissu or Sonahars) of Sri Lanka are descendants of Tamil (Malabar) who embraced Islam in the latter part of the century when South India was under Muslim rule. It is only religion that divides the Tamils and Muslims. By ethnicity Tamils and Muslims are one. Sri Lankan Muslims (Mother tongue Tamil, not Arabic or Sinhala) do not have the slightest resemblance to an Arab in stature or complexion. They bear Tamil names e.g. Periya Marikkar, Sinna Lebbe and Pitchai Thamby.

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          Dear Dr. Romesh,

          The word Lost Lemuria was coined to name the Kumari Kandam, because lemurs are found at the two ends of the lost land mass and not in what remains.

          Underwater explorations are yet in their infancy. We know very little of our oceans and what lies in their depths. The future will reveal may secrets it holds. The continental drift theory does not explain everything we see geographically today. Looking at the world map on a global scale, there is evidence of drift, erosion and deluges. The last Tsunami briefly revealed what lies under the sea around the coast of South India and was an indication of what could have happened millenia back.

          The presence of four of the five Easwarams(Historically famous Siva temples) in Sri Lanka, while the fifth in close proxity in the south coast of Tamil Nadu, further shows that the Lanka of old may have been at the heart of the Saivite world. Further, Ravana, the legendry King of Lanka as told in the Ramayana is also portrayed as a great Saivite.

          The shape of the peninsular India, its geographical proximity and the shallow seas between, point to an ancient link. The presence of the East African type colour, features and hair among many Sri Lankans, confirm the East African link and the possible long march of ancient huminoids over a contiguous land mass over millenia, in the distant past. Sri Lanka’s isolated position in the wide seas on three of its sides and its shape also point to the probability that it is what is left of a larger land mass.

          Time, beyond our own life spans, may reveal the validity of the legends, including the lost Kingdom of Kalyani, of which present day Kelaniya was a part.

          Dr.RN

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          Dear Dr.Romesh,

          Please read the following and the latest reserach paper on genetic relationships:

          Ranawana et al, on ‘Mitochondrial DNA history of Sri Lankan people: their relation within the island and with the Indian sub-continental population, Journal of Human Genetics(2014), 59,29-36

          I have also summarized this paper on two occasions in my CT comments.

          Dr.RN

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        Dr RN,
        Thanks in advance.

        What is the significance of Tamil on the plague and no Sinhala and where the plague was found – Galle?
        Penultimate paragraph of https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/sri-lankas-dynastic-politics-and-comrade-number-eleven-xi/

        “Deng Xiaoping once said that ‘economic reform would fail without political reform’. President Xi seems to be heeding those words. If “Comrade Number Eleven” pulls off his coup, the Middle Kingdom will be great again, as in the time of the Sun dynasty, when Admiral Cheng Ho visited Galle with a fleet of massive seagoing sampans and left behind a plaque in Tamil, Mandarin Chinese and Persian, which lays down rituals to be followed and donations to be made to a Buddhist temple as gratitude for a safe arrival. It also prescribes donations to Islamic and Hindu institutions.”

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      Dr RSA
      “…need and ability to use the irrigation water wisely and effectively.. “

      What do you mean?

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        Tamils brought irrigation to the island – Prof Chelvadurai Manogaran http://noolaham.net/project/36/3524/3524.pdf

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          Anpu,

          Thanks for the link. The worst damage done to the Tamils, is that they have been to a large extent made to feel insecure about their identity and belonging. The migration of the better educated and cultured Tamils, has made many Tamils living both within and outside Sri Lanka, look down on their own people. This is a tragedy of unimagnable magnitude. I hope readers of CT will read the link you have provided to understand what being a Sri Lankan- Sinhala, Tamil or Muslim- really means.

          Dr.RN

          Dr.RN

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          Anpu

          Professor R A L H Gunawardana’s an expert on Hydraulic Civilisation of this island had done extensive research on history came to the conclusion that the technology was brought from South India.

          I will let you have the links to his papers some other time.

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          Thank you NV & Dr RN

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    Wait for 300 years like the Scottish!

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    Scotland was a separate country that joined the united Kingdom. Hence a referendum was to decide whether they want to continue is acceptable. The North of Srilanka was inhabited by Tamils due to periodic invasions. How ever it was part of Srilanka. Hence these are two completely different situations. The British brought Tamils to the central province to work on estates and they are now a large population and given citizenship as srilankans. Does it mean that we should hold a referendum to ask whether they want independent status. The call for separation is from the diaspora who live comfortably in the west. Britten should be ware of these people.the solution is more autonomy within one country

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    Next, you fellows will be asking for a referendum in Wellawatte!

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    Interesting camparison. I think some other article on here, gave a more in-depth comparison of the scottish vs. tamil nation.

    I wonder how such a referendum would work. Would it only affect the Tamils in the northern province, since that’s where a majority of Tamil residents predominate? Or would it apply to all Tamils in Sri Lanka? outside of Sri Lanka?

    If the Tamils do vote for separation, would all Tamils have to move to the Northern or Northern and Eastern provinces?

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    Well, the writer of this article seems misguide the reader by trying to find similarities between Tamil Elam and Scotland. He should understand the fact that Scotland is a separate country and they voted for being/not being in the United Kingdom. I think he should first learn basics of history and geography.

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    Pooh…Do you think these things happen in third world racist regimes??
    Here (Sri Lanka) democracy means bogus elections and Military Junta terrorise the civilians.
    Ealam Referendum- Sorry it’s just a dream…..

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    Jim Softly. The only part that is functioning softly in you is your BRAIN. Have you read history? I am sure you know your Mahavamsa and that Sinhalese were born from the intercourse of lion and a woman. Is that all your education.

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    Scotland was a country annexed by England. Thus the referendum for Scots to decide.

    However Sri Lanka NEVER annexed a `country’ called Tamil Eaalam. In fact there was never country called Eaalam except for the imagination of some separatists.

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    Since Raja Jayadevan has pointed out UK is dishing out regional autonomy, there is the opportunity not to be missed for Eelamists to carve out a region for themselves. They will have to manage their claims without the help of Jayalalitha. CT readers, please be informed that Jayalalitha has been jailed for thieving from TN citizens; a fact seemed to have missed by contributors to CT.

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    The writer has got it wrong. Scotland is a different country, which is part of the United Kingdom. Sri Lanka is one country. FULL STOP.

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      Gerrycan:

      You clever fool. Let me get this one right because I am confused.

      Scotland is a Different Country.

      Scotland is part of United Kingdom.

      Are they conjoined with different organs for Malam and Salam. Can you clarify.

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    Rajasingham Jayadevan, You have to understand that the Scotland was a independent sovereign state till 1707. And they have a right become a independent nation.
    What about Jaffna, was it ever been a sovereign state.
    Please read the history prior to publish your intriguing articles.

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      Adding to the above, no wonder this news page is get banned in Sri Lanka. They spread nonsensical ideas and want to impose them on the society.

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      Ramitha,

      You are right Jaffna was never a sovereign state. But, the history states that northern region was a sovereign state; what do you say for that? If you think that I do not know history, you are very welcome to proof me wrong!

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        Burning_Issue,

        I agreed to you comment, sri lanka was divided to 3 geological regions (Ruhunu, Maya, Pihiti) and had different rulers in those areas. But it doesn’t prove any of those region were run by Tamils people. And also if consider the amount of Buddhist archaeological sites found specially in north and eastern regions (most of them are destroyed by you know who) existence of Tamil civilization on those region are proven false.

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          Ramitha,

          Certainly you are learning but still a long way to go. One golden principle when one learns history is to have an open mind and never to assume anything.

          For example, you assumed that Buddha monuments found Jaffna automatically means Sinhala comminity! This is totally wrong. I will give you a clue; many Tamils were once Buddhists too! Please see below; I have done a little research on your behalf! A simple google search will give so much information.

          http://dbsjeyaraj.com/dbsj/archives/3031:

          “Why does the Sri Lankans believe that the Buddhist sites in Sri Lanka belong only to the Sinhalese (Sinhala heritage) and not to the Tamils? Why are the Sri Lankans ignorant about the early Tamil Buddhists of Sri Lanka and Tamil Nadu? Why do the Sri Lankans think, in Sri Lanka a Buddhist should be a Sinhalese and a Hindu should be a Tamil even though the Sinhalese worship most of the Hindu/Brahmanical Gods”

          “Unfortunately, the majority of Sri Lankans are ignorant of their ancient past. They think of the ancient past in today’s context.”

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            burning issue,

            You are living up to your name, I’m sorry tell you that have some burning issues.

            Last time I check there are only handful of Tamil-Buddhist are living in Sri Lanka. If what you saying is true, then what happen to all those so call ” Tamil-Buddhist”, where they suddenly vanished from the face of the earth. Or someday you might come up with new idea saying they all have been systematically genocide by Sinhala-Buddhists.

            And also, you might have heard about book call “Mahawanshaya” which is the written document of Sri Lankan history taking back nearly 2500 years, please spare some time and read it. You will have all your questions answered.

            Man (I believe you are a man) don’t try to impose baseless ideologies. Elam, it is just a unrealistic dream.

            Speaking from my own experience being a minority (since i’m working in abroad) it is hard to digest, but you have live with it. Nothing you can do.

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              Ramitha,

              Please go and read some hitory books objectively or fly a kite! I do not have time to waste with you.

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                Burning_Issue.

                I read many history books and learn history as a subject. It seams you need some reading.

                Your elam is history. You are fighting for lost cause. You are correct, you are wasting your time.

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              Ramitha

              Here we go again, and again and again……………………

              ” If what you saying is true, then what happen to all those so call ” Tamil-Buddhist”, where they suddenly vanished from the face of the earth.”

              They have not vanished but turned into Sinhala/Buddhists.

              Census report 1881 confirms that there were 12,000 Tamil speaking Buddhists lived all over this island.

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              Ramitha,

              You were asking what happened to those Tamil Buddhists. After the 10th century AD, some of them got converted into Tamil Hindus and moved to the North while others got converted into Sinhala Buddhists and moved to the South.

              Today the Sri Lankan Buddhists are Sinhalese and Sri Lankan Hindus are Tamils but that was not the case in the ancient past. In the past, not only there were Tamil Buddhists but also Hindu Sinhalese. Many Sinhalese, whether Buddhist or Christian, are still practicing Hindu religious traditions openly. At every Buddhist temple you find Hindu Gods (according to Buddhism, a Buddhist should not pray to any god, Hindu or any other). If you go to the Hindu temples like Katharagama and Muneshwaram, you find more Sinhala devotees than Tamil. On the other hand, even today if you go to the Naga Vihara Buddhist temple in Jaffna town (not the Nagadveepa), you will be able to see some locals (Tamils) worship the Buddha/Dagoba, it is a practice among some Tamils.

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                Ramitha,

                The Buddhist archaeological sites in the Tamil North & East, or the Hindu archaeological sites in the Sinhala South, are not strange phenomena in the island. The Sri Lankan Tamils do not go and demographically claim Anuradhapura, Polonnaruwa (a capital built by the Cholas), Padaviya, Kurunegala, Kandy, Kotte (Colombo) or the Dondra Head (the southernmost point in the island), citing the presence of Saiva (Hindu) sites there like the Sinhalese claiming the North & East citing the presence of Buddhist sites.

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              Tamil-Buddhist, Muslim-Buddhist and Christian- Buddhist claim is BBS agenda. Please read Tissaranee Gunesekare’s ‘An Expressway To Disaster’ in today’s Colombo Telegraph.

              Buddhism is branch religion of Hinduism. Hinduism is full of rituals and of deep scientific reasoning, whereas Buddhism is a rhetoric religion. The modern science has still not researched into the depth of wider scientific disclosure in Hinduism.

              Tamils on the whole are part and parcel of Hinduism and the majority agenda is becoming very devious over to shadow the other minorities.

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    This debate is a non-starter, as there never was a state called Tamil Elam anywhere in South Asia. Comparing the Tamils with the scots is like comparing apples with coconuts.
    Though Sri Lanka was ruled by the British for 150 years under a treaty with the Sri Lankan monarch and various parts of Sri Lanka captured and ruled for short periods by the Dutch, Portuguese, Tamils and other South Indian invaders, none of these groups have a right to a separate state in Sri Lanka.
    For argument sake, if we imagine that they do, then what about the Afro American and Hispanics in the USA; Tamils and French in Canada; Chinese, Italian and Greeks in Australia; Africans and Pakistanis in the UK etc.
    Why start a worthless, divisive debate on something non-existent and instead devote our time and energy to economically develop Sri Lanka so that all its citizens will have a much brighter future with equalo rights.

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      Concerned Citizen,

      I am afraid you need to be rather concerned about your knowledge of history. To start with, when the British signed the Kandiyan Convention, how many administrative divisions existed in SL? What does the clause 9 of the convention say?

      If you distort the 200 year old history, can you imagine how much concoction there is in Mahavamsa? Please grow up and learn history objectively and do not twist it to suit your narrow views.

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    i think Israel is working on conducting a peaceful referendum in Palestine. when they do it will be backed by the noble
    UN and America. plus there will be a over whelming majority for Israel because all the Palestinians will be wiped out.

    how about a referendum in tamil nadu? or in australia. can the aboriginals in australia have their country back? yes or no?

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    Scots are those who live in Scotland but who are Eelam Tamils?

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    Scots Have Voted! When Will Eelam Tamils Vote?

    When they stop Squatting!!

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    The Ealam Tamils will vote in Scarborough, Ontario, Canada to secede from Toronto. That is as far as the Ealam Tamils are going to get – a piece of the frozen tundra in the North American continent. As for any referendums about secession from Sri Lanka, one try was made by a man named Paripaharan. We all know what happened to him!

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      Uly Grant

      Good try however not convincing.

      Please go back in history, Bangladesh was created by Hindia. The creation of Tamil Eelam was prevented by Hindia.

      Go beg Hindia to permanently put a full stop to Tamil Eelam.

      Hindia decides on the fate of this island. Therefore be grateful to Hindians.

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