8 March, 2021

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Sinhala People Have No Other Land: What And Which Zone Of Agreement?

By C. Wijeyawickrema

“If the Tamils’ cry for separatism is given up, the two communities could solve their problems and continue to live in amity and dignity.” – M.C. Sansoni, CJ—(Sessional Paper No. 7 of 1980)

“Sinhala people have no other land [place to go].” – Wigenswaran-CM, NP

Vessantara-traitor dilemma

Between getting branded as a Tamil traitor (even GG Ponnambalam was once called a Tamil traitor) or a Sinhala Vessantara/Siri Sangabo, Wigneswaran and MahindaR, respectively, could find the zone of agreement that Dayan Jayatilleka is talking about, if both of them act honestly and reasonably. Beyond the picture-taking oath ceremony, and the prohibited word “unitary” (Dayan talks of a united not unitary), there are serious but simple questions one could ask. When Wigneswaran (W) says that Sinhala people have no other land [except this island], then he accepts the history and geography of the country. But is this because the visiting Indian foreign minister told him to say so? If it was his own genuine realization, then is he ready to forget the Tamil homeland myth of SJV Chelvanayagma? Since nobody calls Tamils buying land in Colombo as Tamilisation would he stop using the word Sinhalisation when Colombo government does anything in NP or EP? Then only one can think of W or one his granddaughters one day becoming a Tamil Obama in Sri Lanka or at least a reincarnation of Lakshman Kadiragamar or even a Jeyaraj Fernandopullai. More Tamils live outside NP like a scrambled egg.

Where Tamils live (Source map: Tamilnation.org website 1/25/2010 

But if the day after the photo-taking if W says that it was because of India that he could become CM-NP what could one expect? Before the election he said Prabakaran was the greatest Tamil hero. He did not realize that by telling so to get Tamil votes the cheaper way he was slapping on the face of Sinhala Buddhists who had the Sri Maha Bodhi and the Dalada Maligawa attacked, and busloads of Buddhist monks massacred. Prabakaran cannot be a Tamil Kappettipola maha dissava, objectively speaking. One can understand W now has a difficult boat to row in balancing how to satisfy promoting the Prabakaran game versus how to promote a peace-loving Tamil culture without harming the Sinhala heritage. But, if his plan is to blackmail Mahinda Rajapakse (MR) using the Indian card or the Michele Sisson face, he will destroy his politics, larger Tamil dream of peace and the politics of MR. This is why all those former “this war was not winnable” agents are preaching to W to apply breaks and be diplomatic.

Wigneswaran

On the other side of the picture-taking opportunity, when MahindaR (MR) says he has Sinhala extremists and religious extremists in his government, which words must be honey in the ears of the TNA, Vasudeva, Dew, TissaV, Bahu, Rajitha and Mano Ganeshan, as well as the Indian RAW, can he elaborate what Sinhala extremists and what religious extremists he has (Yes, there were Sinhala extremists in the past (1957) by the names of KMP and Kusuma Rajaratne)? After his recent twin conversion to multiculturalism and the Interfaith Sect, both modern instruments of remote-controlled colonialism, embraced by the black-white crowds in the former colonies (but England and France now accept multiculturalism experiment has failed), it is possible that he could now see Sinhala extremists, but in the case of religion, a reasonable and impartial person could see only one religious extremist in his cabinet: Rauff Hakeem who fabricates stories that Buddhists are destroying mosques, his hurriedly erected make-shift tin sheds. The Rajiv-JRJ 1987 agreement accepts a Tamil homeland in Sri Lanka and 13-A added this to the JRJ bahubootha thing. As long as 13-A is there Sri Lanka cannot be a unitary state. Hence, either unitary must go or 13-A should go. This is not a matter that MR can try to escape from the loop by passing the buck to a parliament so well known as a shop full of crooks. JRJ kept them in a hotel and forced them to vote for 13-A.

Reasonable solution 

The reasonable thing is to erase the bahubootha thing and develop a constitution by the people. Such acts require selfless dedication to save one’s motherland. The reasonable thing is to accept that both UNP and SLFP Colombo politicians have failed to solve the Tamil issue with justifiable solutions. A real Buddhist leader can find these solutions within the Buddhist Jathaka stories and the Middle Path. Poor Christians and the Sinhala Buddhist villagers (not the Colombo black-white Sinhalese and the Christian establishment) would not object to doing justice to Tamils. The history has been that boru Vessantaras or Madri Devis messed up the issue because it was always their private benefit that was in their hidden agenda. For example, both RPremadas as well as Mrs. Chandrika thought NP as their private property and wanted to offer it secretly to Prabakaran on long-term lease! RanilW in 2002 offered NP and EP as well as the whole country (tiger cats were roaming all over the island, but army could not go to NP/EP) on a platter to Erick Solheim and Prabakaran.

Rajiv Gandhi did not want nine PCs in Sri Lanka. He wanted one PC for N-E provinces. It was JRJ’s plan thinking it will prevent the Rajiv plan. Now the biggest problem Sri Lanka has is not Tamils but the exploitation of the country by a horde of parasites known as PC members, their relatives and officers who thrive under the PC system. It has become a lucrative gold mine. Those who want 13-A are these Sinhala sharks. The perception is that MR also thrives under the 13-A system. MR is using the King Walagambahu method to use this PC system to keep the presidency maintained (isolate PCs and hold elections exerting full governmental force). So much so that Michele Sisson says elections does not [necessarily] mean democracy. She knows it is not true in USA, because every day there is elections in so many locations in USA.

Death of democracy

Since the 1960s one could see how democracy was dying in Sri Lanka. What are some indications? The (1) structural democracy was dying due to tampering with the rule of law, independence of the judiciary, impartial civil service etc. UNP and SLFP political black-whites did this by gradual politicization of everything they touched. The 1947 constitution became the scapegoat. Except for the removal of appeals to the Privy Council nothing was wrong with that system. Even the Clause 29 could have been handled if the concept of discrimination with reason was used (India, USA and Malaysia used it). For example, when GG Ponnambalam complained that allocating money for the preservation of the ancient city of Anuradhapura was discrimination, the Soulbury Commission flatly rejected such madness. The destruction of structural democracy was completed with the JRJ bahubootha thing in 1978.

Appointing active politicians (Jaya Pathirana) as SC judges began with Felix Dias. May Day rallies became so funny. In Colombo, blue and red rally participants throw stones at shops. In mid night when these people travel back to their remote villages green rally workers throw stones at their busses hiding behind rubber trees! The worst was in the 1970s when false answers were given for questions asked in the parliament. Seetha Molamure who lost Ratnapura by-election sat in the Senate before the man who won took oath in the House. These are just a few examples of how structural democracy began to fall sick.

The death of (2) territorial democracy was the next. Whatever one could salvage from the capitalist representative democracy that the American president George Bush was talking so highly about, who stole it from Al Gore in the first place, ended in Sri Lanka with JRJ-RPremadas election laws. Now MPs, PC members and Pradesheeyas are mostly thugs selected by party bosses in Colombo after an interview. The whole system is a disgrace to democracy, whatever is meant by the word democracy. The election boss cannot even implement the law on declaration of assets on the candidates or the ones got elected!

After 1978, During RPremadas time, another (3) attack on civil administration took place by increasing the number GSN units from 4,000 to 14,004. There was no rationale behind this decision except providing jobs to UNP catchers. Each GSN unit now has at least 3-5 full-time government officers. If local school teachers are added to this list 50-100 government servants per GSN unit. No country can develop if these people are allowed to idle because they have political party connections.

Spatial inequity

With the governance system in such a mess for the past 50 years or more, it was not possible to expect anything better on the socio-economic side other than patch work here and there. Structural changes to a colonial open economy, reducing the gap between the rich and the poor, taking development work away from Colombo, all operated under the Colombo paradigm, which JVP described as “milk to Colombo and fodder to villages.” Some work was done but it was always government officers running the show fooling the politician. DS Senanayaka’s dry Zone land development schemes gave lots of jobs to Tamil technical officers, but were run very inefficiently. Dudley Senanayaka, Mrs. B and RPremadas had at least one major project always directed from Colombo. Now Basil Rajapakse has begun several projects also run by officers. He decided not to copy the very successful Gami Diriya people-based project, and instead created a monster department to run his Divi Neguma plan. These can bring some results but unless people are deciding what they need to do, any officer-imposed plan cannot succeed. That is the history of such projects all over the world. The problem in Sri Lanka today is a problem of spatial inequality in not having equality of opportunity and equal access to opportunity. This is so all over the country worst affected being the border regions in the NP, NCP, EP and UP.

Degradation of morals (King Kosol’s Sixteen Dreams)

The open economy introduced by JRJ without reasonable restriction has destroyed the physical, human and moral resource base of the country. Big fish eating the small fish, greed to make money somehow, parents encouraging children to tell lies, tuition mafia, bribery, corruption, sex selling, one can write pages of such ill effects slowly destroying the society, especially the Sinhala Buddhist society. During the 30-year war people lived smiling with the fear of death underneath and two generations suffered from this mental condition, became so un- human like, suspicious of others, extremely selfish, willing to lie or steal. Unfortunately, only a visitor from abroad can see these traits and the whole country needs mental therapy of some sort. This can be identified as the Mervyn Silva syndrome, so openly abusive of all Buddhist norms of civility. Buddhist temples are failing in their traditional role as the whole country is in a rat race. This situation is not limited to Colombo areas alone. Yes, there is a section of the people who make money and rich but the masses are bankrupt, materially and morally. Importing luxury cars using the money sent by village women who work in Arab homes cleaning toilets, and the tourism madness have already done massive societal damage.

Zone of agreement (curse of the JRJ bahubootha thing)

So Dayan Jayatilleke talks about the zone of agreement—the fine line dividing an Eelam versus united federal state! His zone does not include a unitary Sri Lanka. He and other federalists want Wigneswarn to be cautious, not to be a case of pudana kotama kaapi yakaa (the devil swallowed it as if the offer was completed fully?) as if to give MR sometime to digest the rope. Dayan is so sure about a Bangladesh/Kosovo type R2P solution if W be patient. Hasty acts will be a reverse of what Prabakaran did, who refused all the good offers bestowed at his feet. This is all when MR is caught between the Canadian boycott of CHOGM and the British PM coming with “tough messages.” May be another lucky UNP MP can become a new minister just to implement CHOMG decisions

The short descriptions in paragraphs above show that Wigneswaran, TNA, Indian RAW and Michele Sisson are just small disappointments that MR has to worry about. Dayan’s zone is a mental zone limited to a merged N-E zone; MR’s zone on the other hand is the whole country replete with mismanagement by black-whites. Just forget about the university mess, tuition mess, hospital mess, transportation mess; even the Sugala Devi’s tomb is dynamited and the archaeology boss says he will have an inquiry! There is a Ph.D. minister whose only allocated function is to protect such historical sites!

JRJ thought he was an Aristotle but ended like an Andare, the court jester. He preached for a system of government better than anywhere in the world, and with the help of A.J. Wilson erected a method which is now known as the bahubootha thing. With its other death trap, the new election method, this JRJ thing has become a curse for those who come to power under it. For example, we know from Mrs. B’s private secretary that she thought that “Chandrika [is] pissu kelinava.” We know from RPremadas’ press secretary that “RP was suffering from severe mental (psychiatric) disease.” Fortunately, MR is free from all such problems but the curse affected him

in a different way. In order to overcome the most severe defect in the bahubootha thing (planted by AJ Wilson?) MR started using minister’s jobs as a bribe which is a politically wise thing to do. But in so doing he has violated a cardinal rule in management systems. It created a system of disintegration of functions that has become a malfunctioning of the whole system of governmental management. The divisions were such that no one can be identified as the party responsible for bad things. For example the function of agriculture which should under one minister is so divided that there is even a sugar minister. While this is happening on one end three or four ministers have all the key governmental functions taken out of other namesake ministries so that when things go wrong namesake ministers become the scapegoats. In a situation like this it is human nature to make hay when the sun is shining. The evil triangle operating for several decades is now at its zenith under this bribing method along with the PC white elephant. There is no Middle Path but extremism.

River for Jaffna

Despite all these problems from A-Z, there is no alternative for the Sinhala Buddhists and the poor Christians in Sri Lanka other than MR. People have not forgotten what JRJ, RPremadas, RanilW, Ravi Karunanayaka and Mrs. Chandrika did to the country. The new movement Bodu Bala Sena is really the challenge that MR faces because it is exposing how Sinhala politicians have been playing a game of cheating Sinhala Buddhists for half a century. Therefore, if Wigneswaran and TNA becomes an albatross on MR’s neck, the country will again be in a total mess. War capital will be over. Golden brains (GLP, CBK-based federalist), copper brains (Sarath Amunugama, legalize kassippu) and sand brains (Vasu, two language national anthem) will be the first to jump ship when the right time comes.

Therefore, if TNA is not for an Eelam, if they want to follow the law, if they learned anything from the good advice given by CJ Sansoni in 1980, then the first task before them on behalf of Tamils in Jaffna is to ask Colombo’s help to implement the river for Jaffna project, first presented by K Balasingham, member of the State Council in the 1930s and refined by S Arumugam in the 1950s and keeping it alive to date by DLO. Mendis. Since, Colombo itself should have undertaken this plan as part of the Mahaveli Project, a request from TNA, will be an eye opening cry of TNA. It would be the most beneficial, most reasonable Colombo-Jaffna joint project with least cost. In fact, this was something Douglas Devananda should have discussed with Basil Rajapakse and Bathirudeen if he was a wise man.

Colonial administrative divisions

Whether or not Wigneswaran is honest MR has a duty to make sure that incentives promoting separatism are removed. One cannot depend on Supreme Court or goodwill of Ms. Sission. America is the only country in the world where one part of a target country is bombed while parcels of food and medicine air dropped in another part of the same target country! Not only friendships are temporary but friendships can be different depending on the location—

Jaffna, Trinco or Hambantota. There are forces that W or MR cannot control. Tamils all over the world are dreaming for a Tamil state with a UN seat. USA is joining with 300-million Indian middle class to control China and Trinco harbor is so valuable in this regard (it is already under Indian control). Christianization of Asia is easier if the Sinhala Buddhist society is in chaos with interfaith junk evangelical-Taliban intrusions. Steps taken to remove germs of separatism must be such that they could not be sabotaged using the R2P trick. This is why some actions suggested by Susantha Goonetilleke to introduce what Germany did to de-Nazify German minds after the end of Hitler cannot be implemented in the case of Prabakaranism in NP. Instead there are rational, reasonable, scientific Buddhist methods that can be justifiably applied in Sri Lanka.

  1. Making sure that children in NP are taught Sinhala as part of the national plan to teach Tamil and Sinhala to all school children in the island;
  2. Taking steps to demarcate GSN boundaries on the basis of natural-ecology (hydrology) and geography-based criteria;
  3. Surface or underground water resource based GSN units will fit within the 103 river basins running radially from a central mountain mass, making it possible to agglomerate GSN units as electorates, districts and provinces as needed;
  4. If provinces are needed so that Tamil in the north wants a larger area all GSN units can be divided as seven river basins;
  5. River basin approach is the scientific method used in a world of global warming, environmental degradation, soil erosion, deforestation, flooding, drought, landslides, waste management, and land and air pollution.
Seven River Basins
  1. Yalpanam
  2. Raja Rata
  3. Dambadeni
  4. Mahaveli
  5. Deegavaapi
  6. Kelani
  7. Ruhunu

(Compare this map with the nine-province map which cuts all major rivers into artificial pieces).

With this simple change it will become obvious that the nine-province division of the island done by the British for colonial reasons has no reason to exist other than the inability of the Eurocentric black-white thinking of the UNP, LSSP, CP and SLFP politicians. With the realization that NP is depending on the Mahaveli water and that there will not be an EP, the thinking that a Tamil country could be carved out of Sri Lanka instead of from India will face a natural death. With GSN units based on natural boundaries there will be hundreds of 100% Tamil, Muslim units but there basis is not language or ethnicity but hydrology-ecology. Divisions based on river basins will not be perceived as a Tamil separatist threat by the Sinhala villagers.

Evil triangle

Tamil separatism is only a small problem compared to the wholesale destruction taking place in the island due partisan politics. An evil triangle (politician-officer-NGO) has enveloped the villages, towns, urban areas and the whole island making people’s lives so miserable which does not appear on surface but deep within. This why the administrative boundary modification proposed above becomes more relevant in salvaging the country from the present mess.
LLRC recommended devolution of power to the lowest possible unit of government as opposed to Tissa Vitharana’s APRC idea of having a Tamil police station in Sinhala villages. If Sri Lanka is to be protected from inevitable destruction it is necessary to create GSN-level people’s civic administrative units where 10 members are selected on non-political party basis. This is how empowerment of people can take place. This is what India is trying to do under the Panchayathi Raj law. Our situation is not as complex as India’s. All local civil administrative functions need to be handed over to these committees. They will take the decisions with the advice of officer experts and the implementation of these policy decisions to be handled by local officers responsible to the GSN committee. At present local knowledge is ignored or erased by some officer answerable to party politicians. Issues people face on a daily basis, drinking water, garbage disposal, elementary education, floods, landslides, religious harmony, agriculture, water and air pollution, basic health, NGO exploitation must be tackled by local people at local level. The Divi Neguma law needs modification and used as an instrument to create this kind of GSN level civil administrative units. It is true that politicians at all levels who created a mess in the first place will not willingly give up their power and perks. But this is a war for the politician MR, unlike the military war won by the soldier GR. Imagine a situation that the Bodu Bala Sena taking a booklet developed on the basis of this essay and distributing it to villagers!
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    BULL SHIT…

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      That is what you people put on foreheads!!

      Vibuthi is made out of bull sh*t.

      (Forehead and brain are adjacent so when BS is put on the forehead expect its effects in the brain).

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        Fathima Fukushima
        you really need to see a doctor before your illness attack your brain sorry you don’t use your brain when you write

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          pasel:
          YOU are nuts to think that Fathima’s brain has not yet been attacked by some deadly, incurable virus. What you are seeing are the results of exactly that though there is some argument as to whether FF was BORN that way.

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        your brain is full of shit, and you insist that it hits the fan.

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          yours too…stupid tamil

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            Absolutely. Stateless pieces of junk.

            That is why they booty lick other people to win a nation from anywhere in the world.

            89,000 Tamil Mahaveer war widows and counting.

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            ela kolla

            “yours too…stupid tamil”

            We know Tamils are stupid like their Sinhala/Buddhist brethren.

            What is new?

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              Sinhala People Have No Other Land: Therefore, the implied argument is; let’s make it exclusively for the Sinhalese. Others may also live at the whims and fancies of the Sinhala Buddhists!

              Is it what the Sri Lankan Regime is doing now? Instead of beating about the bush, why not call it Sinhala Lanka then?

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          Stateless people. Just pieces of junk.

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            Fathima Fukushima

            “Stateless people. Just pieces of junk.”

            Musluts only belch and fart. Get some gasco from king kong for a change then you drop that hijab.

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          Your brains are filled with army cum! :)

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            Just out of curiosity Fuki, I’m perplexed. If it’s in their brains how’s it coming out of your mouth ?

            AS the BibLe puts it ” Out of the FULLNESS of the heart , the MOUTH speaketh !!

            A DEAD GIVE-AWAY fUKI. yOU’RE DRAGGING THIS BLOG DOWN TO THE GUTTER.tHE FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION CAN BE ABUSED IN MANY WAYS. yOURS IS ONE OF THEM. SORRY BUT I JUST HAD TO SAY THIS BECAUSE YOU MADE ME PUKE MY LATE SUNDAY BREAKFAST WITH YOUR CRUDITY. BE MORE SENSITIVE WILL YOU ?

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        Applying clean, sacred holy ash on forehead is much better than been screwed by a safforn clad, half kassipu drunk, skin head ;aka bikkhu

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        Fat” Mama ” Fuk U Shima

        No it is the Halal ( the Shit Gotha banned) Meat he is taking about.

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      The Sinhalese should deport all Tamils from the so called Tamil homeland areas who now have settled in the Sinhela areas. Problem solved.

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    This man is simply haunted by the idea so separatism! He doesn’t seem to worry about the over centralisation of the present government which has found a place in the Guiness Book of records as having the largest cabinet ever in any country! The country is slipping towards more and more authoritarianism by the day! The country is sinking in debt!

    Nobody is against the preservation of Sinhala heritage. But should that be at the expense of wiping out the Tamil heritage of the Tamils? That is the simple question the Tamils pose!

    Sengodan. M

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    C. Wijeyawickrema

    Thanks.

    I will have provinces four and five for the time being or until we repatriate all 20 Millions of you back to your ancestral home land which I am told in North/South India.

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    Now foolish Tamils come to realize who Viggi is. :)

    Slow learners.

    10 out of 30 TNA jokers have boycotted the swearing in. This will turn violent, hopefully.

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      They avoided because of the fear of getting kidnapped.

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      Fat ” Mama ” Fuk U Shima,

      He is Vasus Sahalan

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    Tamil Homeland is Tamil Nadu.

    IF Tamils want dignity, go to Tamil Nadu. But Tamils don’t have dignity. So they can live in the island nation of Sinhalese and Muslims. Don’t complain genocide and genital-o-cide thereafter. Its your choice Tamilians.

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      Muslims from where they came? Lankstan

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        Muslims are mostly SL own people who converted. Some Arabic influence was there. But Arabic traders and saints came and went.

        Indonesia is another example of how locals became Islamic.

        British didn’t bring Muslims to pluck tea leaves.
        Dutch didn’t bring Muslims to pluck tobacco leaves.

        They brought in Tamils for these purposes. :)

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          Fathima,
          I think you are talking from the period of British in Sri Lanka. Why don’t you look back more than 2000 years before. Do you know that Sri Lanka and India was one mass land. Tamils in Sri Lanka lived since time immemorial. You should also study the history of Orissa (in India) and their influence with the arrival of Prince Vijaya. Then you won’t make such comments. Think all are Sri Lankans.

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            There is an error when typing. It should be read as ‘9,000 years before’.

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            Citizen….for gods sake you are not taking Fathima’s posting seriously ?

            her idotic rhetoric posting only deserves reply in the same manner?

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          Don’t you consider malays as muslims.maybe because they were hindus converted by sufis and don’t follow islam very strictly like the arab nutters and products of inbreeding with low IQ.

          Dutch brought malays to fight for them as well as to work on tobacco plantations because indonesia was a dutch colony.They brought only men so they married sinhalese women who became muslim.Malays are not strict about islam and would become sinhalese because they are mixed ancestry as what happened to Dilshan and mahinda’s malay ancestors brought by the dutch according to Dushy ranetunge.

          malay men won’t be plucking tobacco leaves,they would have been working as labourers you idiot. Do you think tobacco farming only consists of plucking leaves.What do you think the tamil men are doing in the tea estates,plucking tea leaves?

          I’am not surprised that you are discarding the malays as muslims,because in my experience they are some of the finest people,not like those muslim troublemakers from the middle east.

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          “Muslims are mostly SL own people who converted.’

          So you agree they were low caste tamils.That is why they still speak tamil.So how come you are asking tamils to go to tamilnadu and tamils who converted to islam to stay in a bhuddhist country.If using your same principle then you should go to muslim lands in the middleeast.When their oil runs out or when cars can run on natural gas or electricity or solar the sinhalese will chase you out to Arabia.They are gritting their teeth and biding their time patiently and then you will be given an ultimatum to convert to bhuddhism or buggeroff.Unlike for the tamils, for you the western world will have no sympathy because they will remember how you behaved when you had the oil money.

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          Plucking tea leaf needs speedy inteligence.
          You need to pluck the right leasves and at a speed.

          Neither Muslims or Sinhalease can do that.

          All they can do is work as maids either in Tamils homes in Sri Lanka or in Middle east

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          Fat ” Mama” Fuk U Shima,

          Is that why you lot are going to Saudi as slave maids. That expalins

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      Sinhala homeland is all over the world where lions are in existence.

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        Ajith, Have read the story how Rome began with Remus, Romulus and the she wolf. Learn and think of it, as you look for lions.

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    C. Wijeyawickrema

    Ceylonese never fought for independence but hid under the lungi of Tamil Nadu now that you got it on a platter you feel it belongs to Biscuit-Boofer-Society. Southern Sinhala Buddhist kallathoni ravanas go live in Andaman(hanuman) island-

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      How come Tamilnadu began to exist since 11964.

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        Jim the Dim
        “How come Tamilnadu began to exist since 11964”
        Keyboard Warrior learn to travel with and open mind like a child. i did as a kid its infectious. You then understand ethnicity. Like the Muslims with independence its Sinhala Buddhist mysticism that has always been called upon to justify the irrational, one just takes it on faith.

        The region of Tamil Nadu in modern India has been under continuous human habitation since prehistoric Chennai from 15,000 BCE to 10,000 BCE.
        Million years old tools found in Chennai Acheulian stone tools which is about 1.51 million years old, have been discovered in Chennai near Attirampakkam. These stones were found by researchers from the Chennai-based Sharma Centre for Heritage Education.The discovery indicates that early humans (hominins), used these tools. The tools are much older than those found in Europe.

        You are what you eat The Bihari’s eat Kitchidi its like beribath and thats where you come from. Ariyasinha; Ariya= Mysticism proved by the west. Sinha is the common Bihari name for babuas the low caste buddhists.

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    what are those random red dots in the world map?
    did your red ink leak or did you cut your fingers.

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      They are the blood from Isaipiriya! :)

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        I was informed ..it’s your shit that hit the fan.
        Red shit becuase probably you are drinking a lot under pressure to keep posting on CT under the order of the Regime.
        But take pride that your shit is spreading all over the world

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        Fat” Mama ” Fuk U Shima,

        That is the blood from the Goat when you lot slit the throat.

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    Tamils buying land in Colombo is not the same as the government settling Sinhalese in the North and East to change the demography. The demography of the North and more extensively the East has been changed by these government sponsored colonisation s. if you don’t understand this basic distinction between the two stay away from the subject. Knowing your track record I am sure you will continue your racist propaganda until you meet your maker.

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      Why not? You madmen think you are superior?

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    There is NO “tamil separatism” – this is clear in the TNA manifesto.
    Why keep repeating this canard.
    Tamils merely wish to live without harassment and fear,as equals,and manage their affairs and pursue their lives and livelihoods.
    All children must be taught in english and also learn their mother tongue. No religion should be taught.
    As soon as funds are allocated,the NPC will embark on necessary projects.
    There will be no corruption,wastage,fraud,nepotism,favouritism and injustice.
    Appointments will be strictly on merit.

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      jUSTICE, SOUNDS VERY IDEALISTIC AND NICE AS FAR AS IT GOES. BUT, WORKABLE ?

      EVEN MARTIN LUTHER KING’S “DREAM” WAS AN INCLUSIVE ONE, ENCOMPASSING A COLLECTIVE “AMERICAN” ENTITY, A MERGED ONENESS.

      tRUE, THE lANKAN SINHALA/BUDDHIST MINDSET, ITS CONDESCENSION TOWARDS “MINORITIES”, IT’S PROVEN TRACK RECORD THROUGHT A BLOODY RACIST HISTORY IS NOT THE IDEAL HOTHOUSE IN WHICH TRUE RACIAL AMITY CAN BE NURTURED. HENCE THE NOW TONED DOWN DEMAND FOR SEPARATE LIVING QUARTERS IN THE SAME HOUSE AS IT WERE. BUT THAT TOO WILL NOT MATERIALIZE, I AM AFRAID, UNLESS THE MAJORITY SINHALESE ARE GIVEN A WRITTEN UNDERTAKING, A PACT, A SINHALA-TAMIL ACCORD IF YOU PLEASE, THAT TAMIL POLITICS WILL FOR ALL TIME DROP THE SEPARATIST OBJECTIVE.THE COUNTRY IS SIMPLY JUST TOO SMALL TO ENVISAGE ANY ALTERNATIVE . i LOOK TO SOMETHING LIKE THE YEAR2075 WHEN A BURGEONING TAMIL POPULATION OF[ HYPOTHETICALLY] MAYBE 6 MILLION AND A MAMMOTH sINHALA. MUSLIM AND OTHER POPULATION OF SAY 35 MILLION WILL BE BURSTING AT THE SEAMS. iN THAT SCENARIO WHILE AVAILABLE LAND HAS SHRUNK TO ZERO I AM AFRAID THE TAMILS WILL FIND IT TOTALLY ILLOGICAL TO EVEN THINK IT PRACTICABLE FROM A NATIONAL VIEW POINT TO SUSTAIN ANY FORM OF SEGREGATION, LET ALONE ANY FORM OF SEPARATISM.

      RI LANKA FLOUNDERS TODAY BECAUSE ITS LEADERS FIFTY EARS AGO [ WHEN THE POPULATION WAS AROUND A MERE 10 MILLION OR THEREABOUTS]HAD NO COLLECTIVE NATIONAL VISION.AS THE BIBLE HAS IT ” WITHOUT A VISION THE PEOPLE PERISH”

      FUTURE LOGISTICAL REALITIES HAVE SOMEHOW SEEMED TO HAVE ESCAPED THE RECKONINGS OF THE ENTIRE LANKAN POLITY.

      BUT IT’S NOT TOO LATE. A COLLECTIVE DREAM, AN INCLUSIVE VISION SANS THE RACISM AND RELIGIONIST EXTREMISMS OF THE PAST …STILL RAMPANT….SEEMS TO BE THE ONLY FAIR AND LOGICAL WAY OUT OF THE MORASS.

      THERE WILL BE ROADBLOCKS, THERE WILL BE PROBLEMS, EVEN BLOODSHED AGAIN…BUT WE NEED TO SIT DOWN AND DISCUSS A SHARED DREAM.

      TO EVEN FR A MOMENT THINK THAT ANYTHING ELSE WILL CREATE A UNITED NATION IN WHICH ALL THINGS ARE THE EQUAL PROPERTY OF ALL IS TO INDULGE IN A GRAND DELUSION.

      EVEN IN A MASSIVE LANDSCAPE SUCH AS THE US, CANADA, INDIA SUCH SEGREGATION OR SEPARATISM CAN ONLY WORK UNTIL POPULATIONS REACH SATURATION POINT.

      CRUSHING SEPARATISM WITH SUPERIOR FIREPOWER THAT LEAVES A GORY TRAIL OF BLOOD AND CORPSES SOLVES NOTHING.

      NO MAN’S DEATH BRINGS HONOUR TO ANYONE. KILLING IS AN ADMISSION OF A FAILURE TO APPLY THE WILL AND THE HEART TO SHARE A DREAM AND WILL IT INTO REALITY.

      oBAMA I PERHAPS A MINISCULE MANIFESTATION OF THE REALIZATIOM OF KING’S ” I HAVE A DREAM”. WHEN MANDELA IMSPIRED THE ” CRY FREEDOM” IT INCLUDED THE FREEDOM AND FULLEST REALIZATION OF THE ASPIRATIONS, HOPES AND DREAMS OF THE WHITE SOUTH AFRICANS.IT WAS AN INCLUSIVE DREAM.

      tHE uNITED sTATES COULD HAVE OPTED TO REMAIN SEPARATE STATES. BUT THEY HAD A DREAM.lOOK AT THE uk’S ANCIENT BEGINNINGS. ANOTHER DREAM, A GRAND OBSESSION IF YOU MAY?

      AS OTHER COMMENTATORS HAVE ALSO PUT IT, IT WOULD BE A COLOSSAL FOLLY TO DISSIPATE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BIRTH A COLLECTIVE DREAM.

      GOVERNMENT, TAMIL AND MUSLIM LEADERS CAN OPT TO BE SEPARATE PARTS OF THE PROBLEM, THE CRISIS PERPETRATORS…OR THEY CAN TAKE CONTROL OF THIS COUNTRY’S DESTINY WITH BOLD AND DETERMINES HANDS WHICH ARE NOT COVERED BY SLEEVES UNDER WHICH LURK HIDDEN AGENDAS.

      NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE TO THEM THAT BELIEVE.

      IN THE ULTIMATE ANALYSIS , THE PROBLEM ACTUALLY APPEARS SO SIMPLE THAT IT LOOKS EVEN SIMPLISITC.

      THE PROBLEM IS A MERE CRISIS OF SUSPICION, OF MISTRUST CAUSED BY A LACK OF POLITICAL INTEGRITY IN LEADERS WHO HAD NOT THE GUMPTION TO LEAD BUT WENT ON BENDED KNEE TO EXTREMIST RACIST AND RELIGIONIST FORCES.

      WILL SRI LANKA CONTINUE TO BLEED FOR WANT OF A DREAM ? WHERE THERE IS NO DREAM, THERE CAN ONLY BE A LACUNA THAT WILL BE FILLED WITH A NIGHTMARE.

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    Tamils buying land in Colombo ..yes dear they are buying by paying the money from their own pocket .We work our butt off and buying the land from colombo ,if you Sinhalese have the guts pay the money from your own pocket and buy the lands from NP and EP .settling Sinhalese in the NP and EP is by the government sponsored . no grey matter in your skull but only the muck.just feel uppish about your English knowledge not about your skull .

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      Tamils buying land in Colombo only until the next 1958, 1977 or 1983.

      After that they will be hiding in drain pipes in Colombo!

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        you think so?
        99% of the luxury flats in Colombo are owned by the Tamil diaspora

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          Rubbish. You are not used to anything better than palmyrah roofs and mud walls. So anything else you consider luxurious.
          Colombo Telegraph publishes all this insults and counter insults and hopes that people with basic education and above will take it seriously. Think again.

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        Fat” Mama ” Fuk U Shima

        All the Tamil Land will be up for sale as they are all coming back to Eelam and there are new arrivals from Tamil Nadu. Mass migration so get ready. We need more land.

        Very FRIGHTENING. I would move into Indian Ocean if I were you like Gemunu.

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      You don’t have to. Buy land in the Tamil areas cheaper. no one wants to live there? I THINK YOU SHULD ALL GET TOGETHER AND STAY THERE SO THAT COLOMBO DISTRICT WILL BE RID OF YOUR RUBBISH.

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    Seven River Basins is an objective, elegant, naturally flowing method for demaction of responsibilities. I don’t think it will be Tamils but the rest of the freakshow that will be a barrier to its implementation.

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      Don’t give water to Tamil Madu people. Water is a limited resource. Not worth it wasting.

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        Fat ” Mama ” Fuk U Shima

        Keep that for youself as it is contaminated and you have run out of blood from the Goat after Gotha banned it.

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    Problem solving is not merely the rearrangement or reorganisation but understanding the root causes and empathising with the victims. Housewife rearranges furture and new head of a unit, department or organisation reorganises hoping it will lead to better envirement and development. Devolution on linguistic basis is to allow the development of the languages and cultures witout inteference, an arrangement to find unity within diversity. It is done in many multi-ethnic or multi-cultural countries very successfully. It should not be prevented just because a secure majority community have fears stem from their myths. Separation has always been the last resort if co-existance is made impossible by the majoritarian community. People live their live now and not ruin everything because devolution will lead to separation which is baseless whereas only discrimination and colonisation separate communities and countries. By the way people can buy lands anywhere but if the government is behind land grabbing or systematic settlement of a particular community it is with an ulterior motive because it does not do to different community.

    In the UK the government allows Scottish people whose nationalistic politicians always complain about discrimination to exercise their right to self-determination and they will vote to remain as a part of united kingdom (Scottish National Party never got more than one third of the votes cast). French speaking Quebeckans voted twice to remain united with Canada. When people are given their democratic rights they will vote responsibly and not to just humiliate the over-powering community. In Sri Lanka it is NOT the villagers fear separation but the politicians or the elites who want to rule them by keeping them in dark. Another advantage in referendum of the ‘persecuted’ or discrimated community is that those hold power will try to woo them by being reasonable to them.

    If the politicians fear backlash from the south against Federalism or meaningful devolution let there be an impartial investigation of what happened since 1956 including May 2009 just to let the majority community and LTTE supporters know how Tamils were treated by major parties. Most Sri Lankans excluding the elites from all communities are reasonable people and therefore consent to fair treatment of all people irrespective of religion or ethnicity.

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    Wijeyawickrema,

    You are a Sinhala extremist like all the ruling elite from 1948.

    Sansoni is not God, what he said is not gospel.

    You plot a mischievous map and show where Tamils live: Except for India, Malaysia & Singapore, all the western countries where Tamils now live; how did they reach there? By the ethnic cleaning of Tamils of Sri Lanka:

    Periodic ethnic cleaning and pogroms by the Sinhalese aided by the Sri Lankan state drove Tamils overseas!

    Why don’t you include where Muslims live – all over the whole world isn’t it?

    Sinhalese are not native to Sri Lanka, they came from India, don’t you know? You can always go to your ancestral land, if Tamils can go all over the world.

    Mr Darmister, don’t fool the world like your ruling elite has been doing for 65 years now:

    The world knows how crafty genocidaires the likes of you and the ruling elite are!

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      Thiru,
      Instead of responding to that practical proposition by Wijeyawickrema, you are accusing him as a Sinhala extremist and tell the readers that Sinhalese come from India. Not true. There was never ever a race called Sinhalese in India.

      I agree with you if you say that Sinhalas are not 100% native to Sri Lanka. A fraction of sinhala blood may well be Indian. But by and large, Sinhlas are a result of an assimilation of descendants of Wijaya and some ancient races of Sri Lanka namely Yaksha, Naga, Deva and Raksha. And this assimilation had been started by a King named Pandukabhaya some 2300 years back.

      You and anti-Sinhala Buddhists may not agree, but the story is clearly written in our ancient writings. In addition, numerous monuments, rock edits and etc substantiate the validity of such writings. They also prove that we have over 2500 year old history behind us. Tamils have none of that in this Island. Only in the 13th century, a Tamil kingdom came to being in the so called Tamil homeland. And that too as extension of the invader Magha. But it ended in 1619.

      I agree there is substantial Tamil history is in India. All that Tamils have in Sri Lanka is a small book written during the time of Dutch colonials. A good question to ponder then is; how come Sinhalas have a unique written and spoken language developed well over 1500 years back within this island but not Tamils.

      Some Tamils claim that they are the descendants of Naga and and are related to Ravana and have been in this country for over 5000 years. If that is true, how come such a race have not have their own language like Sinhalas. Very much a smaller race, Maldivians have their own language. But Tamil don’t. Tamils speak and write exactly the same language as TamilNadu and they have the same culture. What is your reply?

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        You have your own version of history, which is not true history.

        Eelam Tamils traded with King Solomon that was about 3000 years ago.

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          Thiru

          “Eelam Tamils traded with King Solomon that was about 3000 years ago.”

          Isn’t this a claim gone too far?

          Where did you get this idea, from Tamil equivalent of Mahawamsa?

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            This is how far I can go
            “Hebrew Scriptures of the Jews have it that during the reign of King Solomon (970-930 BC), he sent ships which returned after three years bringing in ‘ gold from Ophir and from there they brought great cargoes of almugwood and precious stones. The king used the algumwood to make supports for the temple of the Lord and for the royal palace, and to make harps and lyres for the musicians:( 1 King ch.10,11-12-ZNIV). Algumwood is identified with sandalwood which is a native tree of south India and the duration of three years of the return of king Solomon’s ships points to distant lands, perhaps, on the west coast of south India of present Crananore (Musiri).

            The precious stones would have been of Indian and Ceylon origin. It is also stated Queen of Sheba presented to King Solomon, 120 talents of gold large quantities of spices and precious stones’.(ZNIV-2 chronicles ch:9 verse 9). The kingdom of Somalia of Queen of Sheba, is identified with the mercantile kingdom that flourished in southwest Arabia during 900-450 BC. It profited from the sea trade of India and east Africa by transporting luxury commodities north to Damascus and Gaza on caravan routes through the Arabian desert’ (see notes ZNIV, p485″

            http://tamilwritersguild.com/overseas-exploits-tamil.htm

            But I am not claiming that King Solomon had traded with Eelam Tamils.

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              Anpu

              “But I am not claiming that King Solomon had traded with Eelam Tamils.”

              For a moment I thought you were going adamantly argue that King Solomon was the First King of Eelam (970-930 BC) predating Vijaya by 400 years.

              Do you know anything about Mandayan Group?

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              Native Vedda,
              This is the first time I heard of Mandayan.

              For a moment I thought you are trying to be funny (or whatever) for this reason.
              Mandayan = Man + Dayan
              Then I searched the net and found mandaya tribe (http://www.joshuaproject.net/people-profile.php?peo3=14722&rog3=RP )
              and Mandaeans ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandaeans )

              Does it help?

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              NV most probable
              Maade ka Dugan> Gupta Group
              Bihari > Patna

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          HAHA HA HA HA HA HA! YOU ARE A COMEDIAN. A JOKE OR A COMPLETE IDIOT.

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          Thiru

          Please quote references when exaggerated claims are made.

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          And your version we must accept as being true. Is that it? Joker.

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        Patriot,

        Tamils are in constant touch with Tamil Nadu which is only 27 KM away as you can see fishermen cross into Sri Lnkan waters almost daily. Vijaya and his 700 friends exiled for their misdemeanours who landed on Sri lankan shores lost contact with his family and people as their land was some 3200 KM away and moreover not wanted by their kinsmen. It was impossible for South Indians not to have landed on nearby island at the earliest period of being able to sail and cross the Palk Strait. Even best known seafarers British borrowed the word ‘katamaran’ from Tamil. Tamils used katamaran at the earlist times for sailing and fishing.

        British settled in other countries such as US, Canada, Australia and NZ will speak English after 5,000 or even 100,000 years.

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          Saro,
          There is a historical record that the boat (may be a large boat) in which Vijaya & his 700 men were drifted because of a storm from Orissa. The eastern coastal areas of Orissa & Andhra Pradesh have always been target of depression from the Bay of Bengal.

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            Citizen
            “There is a historical record that the boat (may be a large boat) in which Vijaya & his 700 men were drifted because of a storm from Orissa.”
            Can you tell us of even a single other boat from Baharat that drifted to another location on earth like we see drifting today?
            That is all Mysticism and one takes it on faith. They are Bihari bandits who came by land.
            This boat of yours looks like the Spanish armada or the Vikings. Why is it that all Baharat conquest from east to west are inland and just to cross 23km (today)(don’t kallathonies swim) from the southern tip even today none of the countries Pakistan India have a strong navy?
            Bihar from Sanskrit Pali means Vihar and they also ruled Bengal. The origin of Saree is TN and what did they have in lanka amude.

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        Patriot

        “I agree with you if you say that Sinhalas are not 100% native to Sri Lanka. A fraction of sinhala blood may well be Indian. But by and large, Sinhlas are a result of an assimilation of descendants of Wijaya and some ancient races of Sri Lanka namely Yaksha, Naga, Deva and Raksha. And this assimilation had been started by a King named Pandukabhaya some 2300 years back.”

        You talk bulls.. all the time. Stop spinning yarns and start learning about DNA studies.

        I informed these studies last year to a stupid Tamil and the link is at
        https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/tamil-politics-needs-re-thinking/

        Native Vedda – July 9, 2012

        There are two books on this area of study and the details are as follows:

        Peopling of Sri Lanka, An Outline Based on Genetic (DNA) Studies

        By Subramaniyam Visahan
        Published by

        Tamil Information Centre
        London

        Contact Details:
        svisahan@yahoo.co.uk

        Peoples and Cultures of Early Sri Lanka
        A Study Based on Genetics and Archaeology

        By Dr Siva Thiagarajah

        Published by
        Tamil Information Centre
        Bridge End Close
        Kingston KT2 6PH

        admin.tic@sangu.org
        Tel:00442085461560

        Research on DNA:

        A Genetic Study of the Veddas and the Sinhalese
        by
        S. B. ElXEPOLA*
        Pathologist, General Hospital, Badttlk

        And

        EUGENE R . WIKRAMANAYAKE
        Department of Anatomy, University of. Peradeniya

        Blood Genetic Markers in Sri Lankan Populations-
        Reappraisal of the Legend of Prince Vijaya

        By N.SAHA
        Department of Physiology, Faculty of Medicine, National University of
        Singapore, Singapore 0511

        Blood Groups of the Sinhalese
        Author(s): D. F. Roberts, C. K. Creen, K. P. AbeyaratneReviewed

        Genetic affinities of Sri Lankan populations

        Human Biology| December 01, 1995 | Kshatriya, Gautam Kumar

        The legend of Prince Vijaya – A Study of Sinhalese Origins

        R. L. KirkDepartment of Human Biology, The John Curtin School of Medical Research, Canberra ACT 2601, Australia

        Genetic study of Dravidian castes of Tamil Nadu

        S. KANTHIMATHI, M. VIJAYA and A. RAMESH
        Department of Genetics, Dr ALM PGIBMS, University of Madras, Taramani, Chennai 600 113, India

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          Leave out Vedda mentioned conclusions based on lopsided research that may have used a few selected samples by a one track minded man or men, true or false, ‘Wijaya’ and ‘Sinhela’ has been in the vocabulary of learned Sri Lankan for more than 1500 years.

          If we do not accept that the first author of Mahawamsa had based his writing on earlier writings and ‘Attakatha’, then of course, one could assume its reference to earlier history is fiction. There wouldn’t have been Elara. We couldn’t have identified those numerous stupers.

          But accounts that Mahawamsa relates to the Indian subcontinent and the dates mentioned therein, and particularly about emperor Asoka are now confirmed as authentic. Hence, we can safely assume, only stupids and ones with ulterior motives would discard writing in Mahawamsa as mere fiction.

          Vedda has no alphabet. So how could they have rock edits. Neither they have any monuments to show their historicity or connections to any group anywhere.

          This Vedda talk big but never once mentioned about other tribes that had inhabited Sri Lanka. The mad wacko always write as if entire island belong to Vedda and Vedda alone. Fellow must be hallucinating the way the God had Adam and Eva. This Vedda must be thinking the God had also created the first Vedda not to till but to hunt in the entire island. I suspect thats why the mad bugger demands everyone leave ‘his’ country.

          I must say that the earliest writing about Vedda anywhere is in Mahawamsa. According to that Veddas originate from Wijaya and Kuweni. It also mentions that the later day Veddas had served many a king of Lanka at various instances.

          Having said all that, I agree that Vedda is dying race and we have to everything in our power to protect them. But it would be a formidable task if every Vedda follow the footsteps of this so-called ‘Native Vedda’.

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            Patriot

            “Wijaya’ and ‘Sinhela’ has been in the vocabulary of learned Sri Lankan for more than 1500 years.”

            The Catholic church also for thousands of years believed in Flat Earth gospel. Even Galileo was put in house only when he recanted his assertion by the inquisitors.

            Galileo’s conclusion was based on his scientific observation of space but the church believed in its own Mahawamsa until the pope John Paul in 1992 publicly apologised for their unscientific teaching.

            Similar apology should be welcomed from Mahawamsa theologians. Sooner the better.

            As long as the Sinhala/Buddhist believe in the one sided orthodoxy of history you are condemned to live a life of a stupid people indeed.

            You can believe in any damn rubbish, indeed you may need some myth to believe in for the very survival of your artificially created race and language, please stop converting us to your Mahawamsaism.

            You may have to decide who you are.

            Are you Sinhapurian, Aryan, Ravana’s descndants, Sakya muni’s children, Hela, Ibn Batuta’s illegitimate off springs, Portuguese, Dutch, British, Malayalee, Telungu Desi, “low caste” Demela turned Sinhala/Buddhist, ……………….?

            Our history writing is on cave walls read the following:

            [Vedda cave drawings such as those found at Hamangala provide graphic evidence of the sublime spiritual and artistic vision achieved by the ancestors of today’s Wanniyala-Aetto people. Most researchers today agree that the artistes most likely were the Wanniyala-Aetto women who spent long hours in these caves waiting for their menfolk’s return from the hunt.

            Understood from this perspective, these cave drawings depict brilliant feats of Wanniyala-Aetto culture as seen through the eyes of its womenfolk. The simple yet graceful abstract figures are portrayed engaging in feats of vision an daring that place them firmly above even the greatest beasts of their jungle habitat.

            The nimbus or halo about the human figures’ heads represents the sun’s disc and, equally, the sacred power bordering upon divinity that accrues not only to great hunters but to all those endowed with the vision to behold and apprehend the marvel of divinity in humble guise. Even up to modern times, the Wanniyala-Aetto used to swear oaths of truth by the divinity of the sun, saying ‘upon Maha Suriyo Deviyo’.

            Such cave drawings have long served as visual memory aids and as teaching tools for the transmission of ancestral wisdom traditions to succeeding generations. To this day, they provide silent testimony to the profound heights attained by Lanka’s indigenous culture expressed with elegant simplicity that people of all communities may appreciate.]
            http://vedda.org/cave_drawings.htm

            The Vijaya story is mere myth void of any evidence.

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            Patriot! Baca Loco
            “Leave out Vedda mentioned conclusions based on lopsided research that may have used a few selected samples by a one track minded man or men, true or false, ‘Wijaya’ and ‘Sinhela’ has been in the vocabulary of learned Sri Lankan for more than 1500 years.”

            Patriotism is to politics what faith is to religion:

            The unquestioned acceptance of information that is either unverified or that may actually be in conflict with factual evidence.

            Patriotism is the incubator of wars.

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              Javi

              Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrels.

              – Samuel Johnson

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        Patriot

        Go read all of the articles and both books, then come back and comment on the history of stupid Tamils and stupid Sinhalese.

        How long are you stupid people going to bulls..?

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        Almost all of the old tamil literature claim that Naga is tamil inhabiting people of Ilanka dipa”. Dont spread false historical claims of your version as truth.

        Source: Silapathikaram, and maniemkalai

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          Mani
          We still have the Red Indians of North America
          We still have Nagas of Nagaland presently a state of India

          “Naga is tamil inhibiting people…” is it because they worshiped Vishnu in that form as principal diety?

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            No. Tamils in their primitive culture used to pray natural forces, trees and animals ( Called Iyarkai vazhipadu). They prayed snakes ( In Tamil called “Nagam”). Primitive tribes of Tamils which worshiped snakes were called as Naga. You can still see some sections of Tamilnadu worship snakes in temple and sakhthi vazhipadu which is famous in south india is derivative of this. And you see all idols of south Indian deities possess snakes.

            We do have Naga tribe still in TN but very sparse due to cultural assimilation with other tribes. For more clarity

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naga_people_(Lanka)

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        “Tamils speak and write exactly the same language as TamilNadu”

        At one time srilanka and india were same land mass.When they separated does it mean that a new language will start among the nagas here?People have gone from England and settled US,canada and australia.Has English been replaced by a new language.

        Srilanka was inhabited by the coastal nagas and the forest yakshas.When vijaya arrived in 6BC in Mannar,he for some reason,maybe because he was not welcomed by the nagas,went into the forest and met the Yakshas.They too would have shunned him,but Kuveni fell for him.In 3BC arahat mahinda(not to be confused with our present monarch)brought in Bhuddhism.So some of the yakshas and nagas embraced the new religion while the rest continued with hinduism.All were tamil speaking including dutu gemunu who was tamil bhuddhist while elara was a tamil hindu.The fight between elara and dutu was not a fight between tamils and sinhalese as depicted in mahawamsa(because the sinhalese race was not formed at that time when the fight took place,but was there when the mahwamsa was written only).

        Sinhalese language gradually evolved after that in the tamil bhuddhist population and they became the sinhalese race of people as distinct from the tamils because of the new language.

        So remember,tamils became bhuddhist and then sinhalese.That is why DNA studies have shown the closest relatives of sinhalese are the tamils and second the bengalis due to vijaya admixture.

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          “That is why DNA studies have shown the closest relatives of sinhalese are the tamils and second the bengalis due to vijaya admixture.”

          You are what you eat. Is it because Bengalis eat rice and fish?

          Bihar’s naturally eat “kitichidi” which is beribath so we call them kitchidi wala! that is where the dacoits come from not bengal.

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            I suppose whether it is bihar or bengal the DNA is the same which is known scientifically as bengali DNA or alleles to be precise.Whenever i read about the scientific studies done on sinhalese bengali DNA is mentioned.Some studies show some Gujarati DNA which is in the west India while Bihar,bengal and orissa are in the east.Definitely the sinhalese have some ethnic admixture that is not dravidian,but are predominantly a dravidian race.

            The problem is to get them to admit that.They think that aryans are superior and therefore want to be known as aryans.Their perception of aryan superiority will change when they visit india more and see them working as labourers in the south.

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    Tamils buying land in Colombo the government robbing the lands and settle the Sinhalese in the North and East

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    Peace lovers can stay on here and There is enough vacant land on earth for others.

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      Like in PNG! Ahoy let them all set sail. No wsocial benefits. A whole lot of mosquito and men with basket covered penises.

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    Wijeyawikrema doesn’t realise a fundamental principle here? Yes, Tamils BUY land elsewhere in SL, including Colombo but the Sinhala regime is “GRABBING” lands from the Tamils in the North by force. Surely he can see this difference or is he blinded by his racial instincts? I would readily agree that if there are Tamils willing to sell their lands in the North on their own free will, then ANYONE can buy them. Of course, racists do not know the difference between buying and grabbing.

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      That’s why Fathima (aka Lorenzo from LW) calls C Wije stupid.
      Unable to differentiate the two.

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    It is apparent that this long winded essay spouts the case for the majority Sinhala cause. It mistakenly believes that the 13th. Amendment, destroys (or is a threat) to the unitary nature of Sri Lanka. This is a deliberate or a mistaken view of what a Unitary state is.I do not intend to have a discourse on the Unitary vs Federal states, other than to state that in a Federal state some aspects of Sovereignty is shared between the center and the sates which form the Federation and in a Unitary state Sovereignty resides in the center. This is the cardinal or defining distinction between the two.
    The 13th.Amendment does not militate against this.One might cite the example of the United kingdom, which actually has ‘regional assemblies’ for Scotland and Wales, but Sovereignty resides firmly with the center at Westminster. The Policing powers in the UK are are devolved to the separate counties. There is no National Police force in the UK. Yet the form of Governance is indisputably unitary.
    The provincial councils in Sri Lanka are in a political sense similar and is aimed at giving a degree of self governance to these regional bodies.
    From the comments already made it is clear that the neither side of the ethnic devide are conciliatory. One hopes that the newly elected Northern Provincial council sets an example of co-operation with the center. If the Goose has extended a hand of friendship should not the Gander follow ?

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    Top tamil leader accepted their land is tamil Nadu , sri lanka is belongs to sinhaleses

    Thanks Wineswaran

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    Hello Piraha,

    “amils buying land in Colombo is not the same as the government settling Sinhalese in the North and East to change the demography. The demography of the North and more extensively the East has been changed by these government sponsored colonisation s.”

    Without asking Wijewickrema to stay away from proposing new boundaries, pls accept that the Eastern Province of Sri Lanka is not your homeland.
    How about re demarcating the boundaries back to Jaffna, Kotte & Kandyan Kingdoms.

    You still have not answered my previous question here they are again.

    know how confident you and your Tamil friends are in convincing the international community about EAST being part of Traditional Tamil homeland, so that it needs to be merged with the North

    2) Why has no international government officially recognised the North and East as part of the exclusive Tamil homeland which needs a merged federal province or an independent country for that matter

    3) Why did the whole world backed Sri Lanka in their war against the LTTE. This is unusual if your was a reasonable demand

    4)Do you not believe that the sinhala people were greatly disadvantaged during the colonial rule and our economy which was centered around agriculture was completely destroyed by the invaders.

    5)Do you not belive that most of the sinhala settlement schems,s took place in the former purana sinhala villages that got neglected during the colonial period

    6) Do you not believe that Sri lanka had three kingdom called Runhunu Rata, Maya Rata and Pihiti Rata(Or is it utter garbage that had been taught to us in school)

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      2. Wrong. Have you been living in a well all these years? India officially recognised the North and East as exclusive Tamil homeland and merged these provinces in the 13th amendment with JRJ’s consent. Not a single country opposed it!!
      3. Many countries supported the war against the LTTE because the LTTE was stubborn and these countries saw the LTTE as an impediment to peace. More importantly, Rajapaksa promised India, the EU, the UN and the rest of the world that once the LTTE was eliminated he would implement the 13th amendment fully and even go beyond it. How sad, the world swallowed it hook, line and sinker. Rajapaksa deceived them all.
      4. The whole country was better off under colonial rule. The infrastructure, the industries, the political system, the educational system etc. we’re developed by the colonial powers and ruined after independence by the narrow minded, racist, opportunistic and greedy Sinhala politicians. See how the sinhal people suffered by the idiotic actions of your leaders. Don’t blame the Colonialists. Blame your own leaders who are still trying to divide and rule.
      5. Blaming the colonials again, eh? Just look at the Sri Lanka department of Census and statistics report of 2007 to see how the demography of the East has changed between 1901 and 2007. It speaks volumes about the state aided colonisation s of the East. Remember Manal Aru? What is it called now – if your memory fails you it is now called Weli Oya!!
      6. Who cares about what the kingdoms were called in the ancient period. Do you believe in the mythology Mahavamsa and all the crap in it? The Sinhala and Tamil politicians have tried to divide the communities by quoting the mythical past histories of Sri Lanka and you seem to be clinging on to the past like them. I am not in favour of a separate state for Tamils in Sri Lanka but seeing how the Rajapaksa regime squandered the golden opportunity for peace after the end of the 30 year long war, a federal set up appears to me to be the only permanent solution. With people like you pushing the racist agenda sadly the conflict, including a future armed rebellion, is a distinct possibility.

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    This writer Wijewickrema obviously has a problem of confusion caused by an inadequate comprehension of the English language. He should re-read what I’ve written, carefully, and with a dictionary handy.

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      Doctor,
      Isn’t it a bit silly for you to think that WOGs and Colombians like you alone could comprehend English adequately. Online dictionary is always there for anyone to use it. Don’t be brash by degrading others by bragging your English as superlative.

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        p/s Get on with the topic and answer the charges if you can.

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        Punchi Banda,

        I dont always agree with Dayan but on the question of writing perfect English I woud say that it is essential if you want get your message accross.

        Help me please which Colombians are you talking about.
        Is is the people of Colombia ( Speaking Latin American ) OR
        Colombo( ians )people of Sinhala Lanka.

        Thanking you in anticipation

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      Quoting DJ is like quoting an unsound mind.

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        Fathima (aka Lorenzo from LW)
        Are you saying C Wije is of unsound mind?

        You stated in LW-
        Lorenzo Says:
        October 11th, 2013 at 6:08 pm

        Where are the MAPS that come with the article?

        The same article appeared in other web sites have MAPS?

        Go back to LW and nitpick with the mongrel Fran Diaz

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          And who do you think I am? Go fuck a duck choirboy chandra.

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            Banda
            ouch!- it must have hurt!

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        Fat “Mama ” Fuk U Shima,

        It is better than eating Halal and at least that is what the Sinhalese think and 20 million cant be wrong who are not as bad as Alqaeda

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    ”Since nobody calls Tamils buying land in Colombo as Tamilisation”:
    Individual Tamils buy their properties with their own means and hence it cannot be called Tamilisation.

    ”would he stop using the word Sinhalisation when Colombo government does anything in NP or EP?”:
    NO, he should not. If the govt does it for groups of Sinhalese it is Colonisation and Sinhalisation.

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    it seems that the writer can only count up to 7

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    tamils can be never satified. Minority wants to control majority…A dream…dream.which will never be fruiful….

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    Vesawalami law in Jaffna should be abolished.

    That is an outdated racist piece of law meant for African like tribal groups (Tamilians).

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      You have no clue about the Thesavalami law! Can you prove a single case where racism was at it’s base as far as this law is concerned?

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      Fat ” Mama” Fuk U Shima

      You mean like outdated barabaric Sharia Law from Arabia and Africa now we are talking

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    What Mr.Wignesvaran has said is the reality…Sinhala people have no place to go. But it does not mean that he fully accepts the History & Geography of the Country…

    Until the British take over in 1815 Sri Lanka had been continuously existed with the South Indian influence..even the Kings married Tamil princes..the influence was evident with signatures of some of the Sinhalese Adigars in Kings Council appearing in Tamil in the Kandyan Convention…which means the Sinhalese had had accepted the South Indian influence…

    The British would not have wanted to create a separate area for Tamils in Sri Lanka North at that time as it would have ensured the break up of South India…it does not mean that British did not want a separate Tamil Country either…it was the influence of Great India….today if North is separated it will give birth to a Tamil Country within 50 – 100 years…
    The Sri Lankan Tamils were and are still being accepted in many Countries..thanks to Sinhala Racists…they yet have a 60 million tamil speaking people in Tamil Nadu that they can integrate into If there is a Worldwide agitation against them…which facility is not available to the Sinhalese…the realization of this fact by Mr Wignesvaran is heartwarming… However it does not mean that the Tamils in the North should live under subjugation…

    Their political thinking structure was a creation of the Sinhala Racism cultivated by the Buddhist clergy who prevented the British Education for Sinhala majority…this was a Crime committed by them for selfish reasons…later they pointed the rising of the Tamil Dominance in the North..because the Administration was in the hands of the Tamils who had a decent English education…

    So who created the problem…it is the Buddhist clergy…who separated the Sri Lanka on Laguage basis. This hatred was originally towards the British and then the English speaking Society….

    Another important point to remember is that the 1818 rebellion by the Kandyan Chiefs and the subsequent rebellion 1835 by the Pretender was never to relieve the Country from the British Rule but due to the removal of the Power vested in the Kandyan chiefs or “Adigars..” ..it is they who instigated the peasants with the help of the Buddhist clergy for loss of power ..prestige…there was no PATRIOTISM among the Chiefs.

    So the Sinhala Buddhist claim of Sri Lanka been one Country is true…but the inability ..the pride and arrogance …to keep it as one Country is their own making….the Buddhist clergy sowed the seed of hatred against the Tamils because the Country was administered for 150 years with their assistance …WHO IS TO BE BLAMED…?

    Mr Wigneswaran IF allowed to be remained in the Office for 5 years he is sure to build the path for reconcilliation….

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    Okay, Sinhalese, Tamils and Muslims came from some part of the world and settled down in Ceylon or Sri lanka or by whatever name this country will be called in future. The point is , all the people presently living legally in Sri Lanka are the citizens of this country.
    There is no point going back to these old stories like Mahawamsa or Chulawamsa and complicate, confuse the reality. Britishers settled in Canada, USA, Australia, New Zealand and a few other countries and they are now citizens of those nations. Indian Tamils, Sri Lankan Tamils,Sinhalese, Muslims went to Malaysia- Singapore and settled as citizens.Tamils, Sinhalese and Muslims went to many countries for studies, work and many more fled after the communal problem, pogroms and settled in those countries as permanent citizens. They are living in those countries with self respect, equal rights and none of these “settlers’ will be branded as ‘outsiders , invaders’ or ‘Kallathonis’. They are all living in peace with full rights and working together for the betterment of those respective land of their choice and for themselves too. They are happy living in these countries except the sadness of not being able to live in their own country of birth.None of these countries will send these new comers back to their original land because they are permanent citizens and their services are also needed
    for the prosperity of the nation. We in Sri Lanka are still talking about Vijaya, Orissa, Tamil Nadu and wasting our time without going anywhere in life. Talking rotten politics and arguing about who came first or who is superior and who should get what etc.,will not bring anything. Unless we all ‘grow up’ and work together as people of one country without any discrimination of race, religion or other little differences, we will just rot here and go nowhere in life. None of the developed and developing countries have this sickness of racial, religious discrimination which will prevent any nation from developing. Wake up people , this is 21st century and stop talking ‘ancient’ BS, be rational, throw away the hatred sown by politicians, work together for the country, yourself and get on with your life without wasting your valuable time in filthy politics.

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      I agree with you. Even the EU has a Parliament with a Constitution where human rights are enshrined. Will that happen in SAARC.

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      Bruz,

      “The point is , all the people presently living legally in Sri Lanka are the citizens of this country.”

      I totally agree with this statement which should be engraved in gold. Mahathma Gandhi also said the same thing. All the natives are the citizens and any argument about who set foot first irrelevant especially none of these pundits witnessed the landing. All your writingson this thread should be taught to not only the children but also to the trouble making politicians.

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    “Sinhala People Have No Other Land:

    What about Orissa?After all sinhalese claim that they came from there and are not dravidians,who they look down upon.

    Cyclone is nearly over.Time to pack up and go from dravidian land.

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      shankar

      “Cyclone is nearly over.Time to pack up and go from dravidian land.”

      I am sorry there is no such thing as Dravidian land.

      I want both the “Dravidians” and “Aryans” to leave.

      This island separated from sub continent India about 8,000 years ago. I wonder whether the people then spoke Tamil as you asserted in your earlier comment.

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        veddha,you are a dravidian.Either you have to be aryan or dravidian.If you are not aryan then what are you?

        As for separating 8000 years ago,good point.However we are 17 nautical miles away from India.Did you calculate how long it took to get there?Maybe 5000 years?Islands travel very slowly unlike canoes.If the separation is only a little people could wade across or even swim.I remember a guy swimming from jaffna and coming back too.I forget his name.If they could do that now why not earlier.

        people like you would have evolved into a different dravidian subset from tamilnadu dravidians once the island was formed.Darwin proved this in the caribbean island of galapagos where he found fauna and flora species that are unique to it,and also if you go to madagascar you will find some more that are not there in the african mainland that it broke off from.

        With every century the differences between srilankans and indians will only increase,not decrease.We are even now quite unique in many ways from the indians though we all came from there.This is what happens in islands that are isolated by the seas due to evolution.Some tamils who have been for many centuries on this island are right to claim that they have very little in common with the people of tamilnadu and more in common with the sinhalese.The sinhalese find it difficult to accept that because of the common language and religion that the tamils have.They always point out to their language sinhala that is not there in india,little realising that if bhuddhism was not brought here in the pali language which was not a language of communication,but one for holy scriptures only,then a language of sinhala would not have evolved.For tamils there was no need for a new language because they were continuing with hinduism which was already there in the tamil language.

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          shankar

          “I remember a guy swimming from jaffna and coming back too.”

          Navarathinam was supposed to be the first person to swam across Palk Strait and later his nephew Anandan.

          Let me come back to you later on other myths.

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    @ Shankar:
    Appreciate your very valid points and sensible arguments…
    @ Saro:
    Thank you for your appreciation of my ‘few cents’ worth…

    The main thing is we all must try and stop writing nonsense, degrading one another or the race, religion etc.,They are very sensitive subjects to play around and hurt each other. I totally agree with Shankar’s many sensible and truthful lines. After all we are the same, be Sinhalese or Tamils and have similar DNA and stuff. Our languages are more or less the same, habits, culture, religion, looks are all much the same. Why we cannot stop hatred, jealousy and live in peace, harmony, develop ourselves and the nation. I know most of the Sri Lankan Tamils, after living with Sinhalese for centuries, like their Sinhala country men than Indian Tamils. The only link between Lankan & Indian Tamils are the language, religion and culture. That’s all, but Lankan Tamils are more attached to Sinhala people in many ways. Tamils started disliking Sinhalese only after facing planned racial riots,discrimination, atrocities by successive Sinhala Governments, pogroms and finally the mass killing of Tamils under the guise of ‘eradicating terrorism’. Continuing subjugation, intimidation by armed forces are still keeping the people away from each other. What made the young Tamils to take up arms ? Surely it was not for fun or ‘time pass’. It was a desperate action by a frustrated and neglected young minority race. Why should the 76% majority Sinhala people worry about a minor minorities like Tamils or Muslims ? It’s an unbelievable and unwanted worry. The Sinhalese can sleep in peace without unnecessarily worrying about Tamil or Muslim take over of them or the country. The country is for every one to live and it’s not any one’s sole property. The best thing is to leave the language , religion and culture to the respective people and Government intervention is only bringing disaster. Until then we will not go anywhere but self destruct everything.

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    srilanka must change the name to sinhala buddist country, this is short coming, singal peole wants land in jaffna not other places, who is behind prisioners to dum is tamils ares became a singala colanies, Provincial councial introduced to NE provance not for other places,by Mr Rajve Ganthi, it cannot changed by any government.singalease c

    ame from india same like tamils.srilanka is a comunal country religions, langauge, empolyment, tamila and muslim are second class citizen, enough is enough. learn from westran countries,

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    Wijeyawickrema,

    Witout wishing to add fuel to the fire I would like to say the following to the Fat ” Mama ” Fuk U Shimas and the lot.

    Having read the first paragrah it is obvious what the message is and I havent even bothered to read the rest and would respond to the following. One can now sense that desperation has set in and the Sinhalese Die Hearts ane now like “Manduva Thavakai” about to die so making all this noise from its habitat which is slowly disappearing due to flooding.

    1) No Land
    2) No Alternative ( other than MR)
    3) No Hope.

    First of all ask yourself the question who brought this upon yourself. It was a self destruction brought on by your atrocities for the last 64 years.

    1) No Land: This is what Gemunu Said ( Sea to the South Tamils to the North) but you as a race have survived so dont worry it may be a bit cramped but you will survive. We need our Land back as we are expecting all those displaced people from all over the World to come back and New Arrivals from Tamil Nadu. Sorry folks that is the shape of things to come. Kalla Thoni is coming back to haunt you as you lot also arrived in Kalla Thoni without Pass POrts and Visas.

    FRightening isnt it.

    2) No alternative: That is your choice as we dont have a say and we dont want to get involved. You can put any one in charge MR or RM. But he is not ruling us anny more. This will be confirmed after Congress leaves office in March and there is not going to be any Reconciliation under MR.

    3) No Hope: Hope is what you make of from the debris you have created.

    Wigneswaran can say anything he wants but he knows that Prabakrans Legacy is going to be around for a very long time and the following people have learnt this to their cost when they challenged the Supremo.

    a) Sambanthan polled 7 votes when he challenged Prabakaran
    b) Sitharthan lost in earlier election and this time came behind Anathi who has LTTE blood running through her body.
    c) Anthasangari who sang the song of praise for MR lost and is now enjoying retirement.
    d) EPDP lost its heartland.

    Friends this is DEMOCRACY at work and unlike MR thugs will not be ruling Eelam.

    On the question of Tamils buying Land in the Sooth I will tell you this.
    When we develop North and expand Palaly Airport to receive International Flights, KKS harbour for ships to dock, Factories in Vanni and expand the beaches where we can have night outs and picnic we wont need the houses in the South and they will be up for sale.

    But if you come to live in the North you have to buy the Houses not take over by force and live under Tamil Jurisdiction. These are eraly days and we have long way to go.
    ENJOY WHAT IS LEFT IN THE SOUTH

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