The UN Working Group on Arbitrary Detention has identified significant challenges to the enjoyment of the right to personal liberty in Sri Lanka, resulting in arbitrary detention across the country.
The three-member delegation from the UN Working Group on Arbitrary Detention, José Antonio Guevara Bermúdez, Leigh Toomey and Elina Steinerte
The experts recognize positive initiatives, including engagement with UN human rights mechanisms, as well as the recent accession to the Optional Protocol to the Convention against Torture.
However, they say further urgent action is required to give effect to Sri Lanka’s obligations under international human rights law, as well as the commitments made by the Government in its Human Rights National Action Plan 2017-2021.
“The right to personal liberty has yet to be respected by law enforcement, security forces, judicial and other authorities,” the experts said in a statement, after a three- member delegation carried out an official visit to the country.
They said that current powers to deprive individuals of their liberty extended across a range of facilities, including police stations, prisons, open work camps, centres for juveniles and the elderly, mental health institutions and rehabilitation camps for former combatants, as well as those for drug addicts and people in vulnerable situations.
The experts called for urgent reforms to address problems including the excessive use of remand, a lack of effective alternatives to detention, an outdated legal framework and reliance on confessions, often extracted under torture or duress.
Court proceedings were affected by excessive and unjustified delays, while suspects remained in detention indefinitely, they said, adding that the rights to the presumption of innocence and due process were yet to be fully recognized.
The experts called for the abolition of the special laws and powers enacted during the state of emergency. In particular, the Working Group urged the Government of Sri Lanka to repeal the Prevention of Terrorism Act of 1979, as one of the key enablers of arbitrary detention for over four decades. Any new legislation must be in accordance with international human rights law and best practices.
The delegation highlighted that detainees in general did not enjoy some of the most fundamental guarantees of due process, such as immediate access to legal assistance from the moment of the arrest and before their initial statement was recorded.
“The fact that the detainees are interrogated by the authorities without a lawyer, in particular at police stations, is of great concern,” the experts said.
The Working Group also paid particular attention to the deprivation of liberty of those in situations of vulnerability, such as children, women, elderly people, those with psychosocial disabilities, and those living in poverty.
“Despite identifying positive practices in this regard, it is concerning that the legal basis and procedures for depriving people of their liberty are not clearly established,” the experts said.
“There are no effective safeguards against arbitrariness in this context and there is an urgent need to strengthen mechanisms for independent monitoring and oversight.”
During the visit, from 4-15 December 2017, the delegation met Government officials, judges, lawyers, civil society organizations and other relevant groups and officials. They travelled to Colombo, Negombo, Anuradhapura, Vavuniya, Trincomalee and Polonnaruwa, visiting more than 30 different settings of detention and interviewing more than 100 people deprived of their liberty.
The delegation was composed of Working Group members José Antonio Guevara Bermúdez, Leigh Toomey and Elina Steinerte, supported by staff from the UN Human Rights Office.
The Working Group will present the final report of its visit to the United Nations Human Rights Council in September 2018. (UN Communication)
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justice / December 15, 2017
Presence of a lawyer during interrogation of an arrested person is a right in many democracies. The arrested person is allowed to phone for a lawyer. If he cannot get one, the state provides one for him.
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Jim softy / December 15, 2017
But, it should not be for terrorists.
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Pandi Kutti / December 16, 2017
Especially to Sinhalese Buddhist state fascists like you
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Real Revolutionist / December 16, 2017
Who started terrorism in SL. the feeling; terrorism must be dealt with terrorism becomes a reality with people like you.
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Native Vedda / December 16, 2017
Real Fake Revolutionist
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You must be one of the failed JVP supporters are you?
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Are you indeed the Graying Revolutionary Dayan?
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Tamil from the north / December 16, 2017
Real revolutionist, idiot terrorism was unleashed on minorities by the state, so the minorities retaliated with terrorism. So I understand your explanation.
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Real Revolutionist / December 17, 2017
Tamil from the North
That’s not the truth, LTTE terrorism had started long before the so called state terrorism in 83, where the then govt. failed to protect innocent Tamil civilians.
It’s sad to mention that one of the reasons for majority to look @ Tamil people in less humane manner might have been that.
Instead of resorting to terrorism Tamil parties could have held then govt. responsible in democratic way, with helping hand extended to JVP without blaming whole Sinhala population for that.
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Dr. Gnana Sankaralingam / December 17, 2017
Real revolutionist, you are the one who is wrong. State terrorism was first unleashed on Tamils way back in 1956, when Prabakaran was two years old. In 1956 Tamil satyagrahis were set upon by state sponsored thugs with police remaining as spectators, and when Tamil MPS went to parliament with their wounds bandaged, SWRD sarcastically remarked “wounds of war”. Also a mini riot followed in Amparai where Tamils in Kondavattuvan were beaten and driven off. There were several acts of state terrorism unleashed on Tamils in 1958, 1977 and 1981, before LTTE started to attack Sinhalese. Even in 1979, government unleashed terror when several suspects were arrested, tortured, killed and their dead bodies were displayed in Jaffna to warn Tamils. Tamil youths did not take to weapon at the first instant, but only after failed negotiations with intransigent Sinhala led governments. Even now, Sinhalese are refusing to move forward to grant justice to Tamils despite being told to so by international community. So please get your facts straight, as either you are ignorant or suffering from selective amnesia.
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Shenal / December 18, 2017
Dr. Gnana,
If the language issue was a darn problem for Tamils they should have discuss the matter with relevant authorities and sorted it out without any trouble. Instead the Tamil leadership chose the path of provocation. SWRD was prudent enough to know that what Tamil leaders did in the so called Satyagraha.
Sinhalese should not grant anything to Tamils. We are being too generous to Tamils more than any community so far. Besides we are not bound to the International Community to do their bidding.
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K.Anaga / December 19, 2017
Shenal!
Language was not the only problem. Colonization was the biggest problem. Banda initially din’t want to talk. Only after the move for the stiyagraha agitation he talked which included land problem too. It was popularly termed Banda/Chelva Pact(BC pact). But this pact was unilaterally abrogated by ‘B’ even before the ink was dry. So was the Dudly/Chelva pact. Unfortunately Sinhalese never had a proper Leader. The so called leaders were led by the masses. They come to power with various promises but no sooner they come to power they think of the NEXT ELECTIONS. So politics goes on with the support of people like. You are not bound by the international community, true, unless it suits you.Don’t forget the fact that if not for the international community you would not have won the so called war.
It is a pity that either you do’t know the recent past or you pretend not to know it. Either way you are lost.
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Elango / December 22, 2017
Language was the problem but when you attempted to solve it through violence against democratic protests (1956 to 1977) that the Tamils realised you understood only the language of violence and replied in kind.
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Dr. Gnana Sankaralingam / December 23, 2017
Shenali you are confirming that your n outright racist, when you say that Sinhalese should not grant anything to Tamils. You are idiotic when you say that we are not bound to the international community. Then why are the Sinhala leaders even MR the modern day Dutugemunu, assure to the world that they are prepared to settle Tamil grievances in a fair manner, even going beyond the 13th amendment. Why cannot these leaders tell the international community to get off and that they are not going to give anything to Tamils. MR obtained support from India/USA/European countries on the promise that LTTE is defeated, he will settle Tamil problem according to international norms. Now when LTTE is gone, Sinhalese are being exposed as the real cause of the problem in Srilanka.
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Tamil from the north / December 18, 2017
Hey Real Revolutionist, that is not the truth? Really man?
What happened in 1957/58/77? Can you enlighten me on those dark times of this beautiful nation? Please educate me since I am so dumb and you are brilliant. Instead of resorting to terrorism Tamil parties should have held then governments………………..really? What do you think happened before that maniac started the LTTE which saw to the destruction of this country with the help of the racist elements of the Sinhala modayas? Wonderful Tamil modays and Sinhala modays joined hands with one thing in their mind………………we hate each other so we will go out and kill each other. How smart and intelligent? Today you are sitting here defending the actions of the racist elements among the Sinhala modayas.
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Champa / December 16, 2017
Stop torturing the tail will you, the “UN Working Group on Arbitrary Detention”!! Stop beating around the bush. Let’s straight up about your sh… I dare say you don’t give a damn to the liberty or human rights of Sri Lankan citizens. Like other “mass arrivals of UN officials”, your Group is here solely for the purpose of getting LTTE terrorists out of prisons.
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UN is completely and unconditionally supportive of Terrorism. Since its inception (1945) upto now, UN has failed to give a clear definition to ‘Terrorism” or “Counter-terrorism.”
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Sri Lanka was under UN’s human rights watchful eye ONLY AFTER the elimination of LTTE in 2009. UN’s human right mantra only started to protect the “human rights of detained hardcore LTTE terrorists”. Prior to that when Sri Lanka was in a bloodbath and destruction for 30 years in the hands of the barbarian Terrorist Leader Prabhakaran and his merciless cadre, UN WAS NOWHERE. LTTE detailed Police/Army/civilians in their secret camps, tortured and killed. Over 600 “unarmed” Police Officers were “instantly” killed in LTTE’s 1990 massacre . They destroyed camps, villages, economic resources and intentionally massacred civilians through senseless bombing, shelling and suicidal attacks. “Sri Lankan citizens were deprived of their liberty and the right to live for 30 long years prior to 2009.” Not a single UN Working Group visited Sri Lanka during that period. Not a single statement was issued by the UN requesting LTTE to stop its widespread senseless killings of civilians.
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UN should learn TO RESPECT THE RIGHTS OF SOVEREIGN COUNTRIES TO COMBAT TERRORISM. They should understand Sri Lanka’s acute ongoing vulnerability to LTTE terrorism. There are LTTE remnants in the diaspora presumably bribing UN officials; otherwise UN’s insanely absurd request to repeal/amend the PTA which is in place to protect citizens, has no rationale.
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Raj / December 16, 2017
how about the terrorism of the state who has to protect but directly and indirectly killed raped destroyed property of Tamils in 1956, 1958,1977 1981, 1983 and in the guise of fighting killed and raped innocent Tamils.
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Shrikharan / December 16, 2017
Jim Softy
So We have you arrested and accuse you a terrorist and deny a lawyer and shoot you dead.
I have followed your comments for a long time now and that shows your dirty mind set. Actually you are fit to be a Parliamentarian.
You need psychiatric treatment. Certainly something in the past most likely during your childhood has happened.
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Saro / December 16, 2017
Jim softy knows well that he, being a Sinhala Buddhist, won’t be arrested or tortured, such is the state of affairs in Sri Lanka.
Tamil being an official language in Tamil areas N-E still letters of demand and police statements are done in Sinhalese only. Sri Lanka won’t obey the law if it does justice to minorities. 13A is part of the constitution – law of the land but it is not implemented even after 30 years. What can you do about it?
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Shenal / December 16, 2017
Saro,
Tamil is a official language through out the entire island, not just N-E. Besides, is language issue the problem which requires the implementation of Federal solution? Can’t Tamils discuss this over with their Sinhala counter parts?
13A was forced upon our country. It is not the concession of the people. Therefore technically it cannot be regarded as part of the constitution. It needs to be abolished and replaced with more practical and agreeable solution.
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Native Vedda / December 16, 2017
Shenal
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“Tamil is a official language through out the entire island, not just N-E. Besides, is language issue the problem which requires the implementation of Federal solution?”
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Tamil was not the official language until the Hindians in 1987 caught JR by his clanking b***s. Anyhow when are you planning to implement Tamil as the official language through out the island? Never?
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Are you awaiting for Hindians to catch Sirisena, Ranil, Wimal, Dayan, Dinesh, Dr Gota DSc, Dr Mahinda LLD, …………….. by their b***s in order to enforce other democratic systems in this island?
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Saro / December 16, 2017
Shenal,
No one is happy about 13A yet that is the only law that stands to safeguard the Tamil speaking minorities in N-E. When it comes to law no one asks how it was brought about. Sinhala elitists object any concession that is granted in many developed countries such as Switzerland given to minority communities because there is nothing else to fight the election and win. Look at the post independence history always it was minority issues that dominated the election propaganda. There are some honest Sinhalese leaders like Lal Wijenayake who genuinely resolve the language issue once and for all and move on to develop the country. But extremists at both ends of the political spectrum knows no better. Can you identify any political leader during the last 70 years who put the country first and his family and friends second?
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Shenal / December 17, 2017
Saro,
How on earth that 13A would safeguard the Tamils in N-E? Are you implying that before 13A Tamils were living in perilous condition and now after 1987 they were safe? I find it utterly misleading.
Sri Lanka is not Swizterland or any other federal state. You should understand that. There is a clear cut history to this island which firmly puts Sinhalese people the sole owners of this island. But it doesn’t mean Tamils cannot live in this island. They can do it if only they are willing to integrate properly.
Mahinda put country before his family. That is why he’s been branded as a war criminal and his family members are being hunted and harassed. Mahinda could have kept clear of the war and fiddled with LTTE just to pass his time. But he took the risk and brought the war to conclusion. That is how a patriotic leaders does his work.
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Native Vedda / December 17, 2017
Shenali the stupid
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“Sri Lanka is not Swizterland or any other federal state. “
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Sri Lanka will never make it to Switzerland simply because you dump Sinhala/Buddhist fascists still believe you can import free rice from the moon and cheap loans from China. Further you lazy racists believe in Socialism by making the “haves” poor and “have nots ” even worse much poorer. You also suffer from extreme forms of superiority/inferiority complex coupled with jealousy hence the periodical destruction of wealth belonging to the hard working minorities.
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You don’t even know what exactly Federalism means which your fellow fascists pass on to the minorities as being their problem.
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Whenever people want to p**s they don’t have to wait in the queue to obtain permission from Minister responsible National Pi**ing.
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Shenal / December 18, 2017
Native,
It is sad that you know nothing about Swizterland and how it came in to existence.
If you are an expert in Federalism why don’t you lecture us on what it exactly is?
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Native Vedda / December 19, 2017
Shenal
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“It is sad that you know nothing about Swizterland and how it came in to existence.”
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True, please tell us all about Switzerland. I have all the time in this world.
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“If you are an expert in Federalism why don’t you lecture us on what it exactly is?”
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You continue to oppose Federalism however you never told us why. This is an opportunity for you to explain yourself.
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Many Sinhala/Buddhist fascists believe Federalism leads to division. As long as Hindians are ruling from Sultanate of New Delhi that will never happen unless of course you provoke them in a silly manner as JR did. Potential separation of country is not a good reason for not granting Federal powers to all nine provinces. It is all to do with Sinhala/Buddhist paranoia and has nothing to do with Federalism.
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If and when Hindians for unknown reasons decide to divide the country they could do it even with unitary state. Bangladesh is a good example.
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Dr. Gnana Sankaralingam / December 18, 2017
Shenali, you are an outright racist to claim that there is a clear cut history to this Island which firmly puts Sinhalese people the sole owners of the Island. According to anthropologists and geneticists, Veddhas are the original people in Srilanka being present for over 30,000 years. Balangoda excavation as well as discovery of ancient seat of rule of Veddhas in Kathiraveli proves this. So how come Sinhalese people be the sole owners. Moreover geological, archaeological, linguistic and genetic evidence prove that first immigrants to Srilanka are Dravidians, who spoke Tamil or some form of Tamil (Elu is proto Tamil). While there are stone inscriptions in Tamil dating back to 2000 years the earliest ones in Sinhala are only 1300 years old. Sinhala language, culture and customs developed from Tamil ethnic group similar to the development of Malayala language culture and customs from Tamil ethnic group. The fact that Sinhala script was copied from Malayalam proves that Sinhala evolved later than Malayalam. These are undeniable facts which you do not want to accept because of your bigoted mind brain washed by Sinhala false propaganda. At that time 13th amendment would have safeguarded Tamils with Indian troops physically present on land and would have transferred power to Tamils after some time so that they could look after their safety and dignity. Tamils are in this sorry plight because of Prabaharan, who went against the wish of majority of Tamils to cooperate with India to ensure the rights of Tamils. At present without any security assurance to counter Sinhala racism, 13th Amendment is of little benefit as the Srilanka government will only take measures to sabotage devolution and impose their design on Tamils.
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Rohan / December 16, 2017
Tamil is the official language through the entire island. Don’t make me laugh. Even in the Tamil north and east where the Tamil speakers are the overwhelming majority in every district , try conduction business in Tamil. Especially in a Police station of government office, leave the so called South or in areas where Tamil speakers are in large numbers like in Colombo the Central Sabragamuwa . Uva provinces or the Chilaw Puttalam area. Whom are you trying to fool you lying racist bigot?
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Shenal / December 17, 2017
Rohan,
Don’t laugh but read the 13th amendment. It is utterly laughable that not even in North and East business cannot be conducted in Tamil. You are terribly mistaken. It is not I the lying racist bigot but you.
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Native Vedda / December 17, 2017
Shenali
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FYI:
Amendment of Article 18 of the Constitution of the
Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka
2, Article 18 of the Constitution of the Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka
(hereinafter referred to as the “Constitution”) is hereby amended as follows:-
(a) by the renumbering of that Article as paragraph (1) of that Article;
(b) by the addition immediately after paragraph (1) of that Article of the following
paragraphs:
“(2) Tamil shall also be an official language.
(3) English shall be the link language.
(4) Parliament shall by law provide for the implementation of the provisions of this
Chapter.”
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I suggest for your own good you see a Veddamahathmaya, an optician, a psychiatrist, a geriatric specialist, … a Chinese head transplant specialist, a gene editor, ………………………. all at the same time.
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Mallaiyuran / December 16, 2017
Shenal,
you are not just biased or bigot, but you may be one side intelligent blind too. When you say 13 A was imposed on you, where it says Soulbury constitution, 1972, 1978 were consented by Tamils? When the entire car is imported, why are you worrying about the imported plug on that?
You says Tamil came after Ariya chakravarties came, but you have problem in accepting that you came here to peel cinnamon only after Europeans came here. That is not what said in Mahavamsa, it said in the European documents. You don’t know how the Pancha Iswarms came here, but seems to be aware how the grandson of the lion came here. You read in Mahavamsa only the arrival of Vijaya, have not read the arrival of his wife and other 700 Tamils princess. It is the culture of Tamils Royals like Wickiramarajasingan to carry tiger tooth in palaces and home to bringing luck. You say it is as Buddha’s’ tooth. When was Buddha hunting while preaching vegetarianism and equal treatment for other animals? (It may be Vijaya’s tooth, but Rajasinghan misidentified to tiger tooth)
Please know your history: Indian-Lankawe pact is similar pact like the other negotiated ones like Banda-Chelva, Dudley-Chelva pacts. 13 A was drafted only by Sinhalese. It was voted by Sinhalese Parliamentarian only, by 2/3 margin. If you claim you are minority Sinhalese objected the Sinhala elected parliamentarians action, it is because you came only after Europeans came in, and you could not get along with the natives lived there. So, you better leave the country to the other Sinhalese who elected the representatives, drafted the 13A and voted for that as binding on them.
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Shenal / December 17, 2017
Mallaiyuran,
Making a constitution is one thing but some foreign country imposing laws on the populace is another thing. Moreover, it is not possible to get consensus of everyone in the country before passing government acts. That is why there are representatives in the cabinet. Tamils are represented by their elected representatives. So, don’t trying to portrait that Tamils have no representation in the parliament. Infact it is no surprise that you cannot differentiate between the 13A and constitution making.
So what is your point on the arrival of cinnamon peelers? Those cinnamon peelers never said they owned this land and they want part of it. Tamils should learn from them how to live peacefully.
Your Pancha Iswaran is another fable just like the Vijaya story. Tell it to gullible masses of Tamilnadu if you like.
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Native Vedda / December 17, 2017
Shenal
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“Making a constitution is one thing but some foreign country imposing laws on the populace is another thing.”
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Of course! Did successive governments consult the people when it went on to sign multitude of UN protocols, and agree to abide by numerous charters?
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“Tamils are represented by their elected representatives. So, don’t trying to portrait that Tamils have no representation in the parliament.”
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When you have more Sinhala/Buddhists racists (majority) in the Parliament than the Tamils the maths does add up.
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FYI,
xy means x is greater than y
3636, 189 +36 = 225
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” Infact it is no surprise that you cannot differentiate between the 13A and constitution making.”
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Well tell us about the differences between the 13A and constitution.
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BTW I read somewhere the following:
“A new formula, inspired by the mysterious work of Srinivasa Ramanujan, could improve our understanding of black holes.”
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Whatever the geniuses of Srinivasa Ramanujan is he would still fail to discover whats wrong with a***holes in this island.
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Shenal / December 18, 2017
Native Veddha,
Successive governments are elected by the people’s consent. They do not need to ask for the approval from the masses every time through out their 5 year term except for very special cases. Moreover, the elected governments are answerable to the masses in every election.
However, bowing down to the pressure of foreign government is completely a unconstitutional and undemocratic practice. That is why 13A can be regarded as unconstitutional and undemocratic. It is rather unfortunate that not even MR could repel it for good.
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Mallaiyuran / December 17, 2017
Could pass a “Cinnamon Peelers Citizenship Act” and deport those nagging, Cicadas back their Mathru Poomi; You seems to very though in constitution making and accept that the they cannot claim this land as theirs. If 13A is not constitution can you declare the 6A too as not constitution.
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Shenal / December 18, 2017
Malla,
Why deport the cinamon peelers? Can you provide a valid reason for that?
13A is somewhat unconstiutional because it was forced on the Sri Lankan citizens by foreign country whereas the 6A was enacted by democratically elected President.
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Real Siva Sankaran Sharma / December 19, 2017
Not only Cinnamon peelers Kararwa, Durawa, Hunu, Hali , Berewa act and send them all to their Mathru Bhoomi in Tamil Nadu. Shenali to Southern Andhra as she is a Waduge
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Atticus / December 16, 2017
Sinhala Buddhists are still being arrested, tortured and killed. Haven’t you heard of the Sri Lanka Police Force? Check the Asian Human Rights Commission website.
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Native Vedda / December 16, 2017
Jim softy the dimwit
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“But, it should not be for terrorists.”
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Let us hear it from JVP.
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How about war criminals, you reward them with promotion, ambassadorship, impunity, honour them with hollow victory medals, such as Parama Weera Vibushanaya, …. Doctorates LLD, DSc, …… Vishawakeerthi Sri Threesinhaladishwara, ‘Shri Rohana Jana Ranjana, “Sthuthi Sthroththa
Pathra”, ………………..and allow them to virtually print money.
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jansee / December 16, 2017
What about state terrorists?
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Jim softy / December 16, 2017
Who blow up civilians ?
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Native Vedda / December 17, 2017
jansee
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“What about state terrorists?”
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What about them? Are you able to name all of them?
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Ajith / December 16, 2017
Jim,
Who decides terrorists or not?
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Real Revolutionist / December 16, 2017
Jim softy
That’s the issue, provisions for safeguarding human rights is cunningly used by terrorists & the irony is that so called human rights protectors appear on behalf of terrorist who are ready to release any terror to win their racial requirements.
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Real Revolutionist / December 16, 2017
Those who appear for terrorists in the guise of HR protectors must be considered terrorists & should not be welcomed to any country. UN has failed to understand reality so it’s a failed organization.
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Native Vedda / December 16, 2017
Real Fake Revolutionist
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“Those who appear for terrorists in the guise of HR protectors must be considered terrorists & should not be welcomed to any country.”
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What shall we do with Ambassador Tamara Kunanayakam and Dr Mahinda Rajapaksa (LLD) who went to UN to plea for JVP terrorists while betraying the country, government and the people?
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What shall we do with the public racist Dayan who was a close friend of Padmanabha (EPRLF Leader) and both ploting to overthrow the elected government of JR?
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What shall we do with the members of the armed forces who delivered arms, ammunition, medicine, cash ….. to LTTE under Premadasa’s government?
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What shall we do with Dr Mahinda (LLD), Basil ….. who delivered substantial amount to LTTE bribing him to withhold voting?
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“UN has failed to understand reality so it’s a failed organization.”
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Whether UN understands or not time to time our so called leaders and diplomats have had dealings with terrorists. It depends when they were terrorists when they weren’t. You can only call them terrorists when they are not useful to you.
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Are you a Hindian revolutionist?
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Mallaiyuran / December 16, 2017
Softy,
You are right but they escaped. DS, SWRD, JR, Richard. P., KMP, Cyrill,……………….
But make sure Zero Casualty Old Royals, White Flag New King, Batalanda Ranil, Navali -Chemmani Chandrika… not going to the Hospital Hotel when they are arrested.
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Eusense / December 15, 2017
Oh yes, This happens all the time in China and Russia too!
Wonder why this group did not go to China and Russia to investigate.
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Tamil from the north / December 16, 2017
Dumb fuc&r Nuisance, you always compare these atrocities against the weakest links in the world such as Russia, China, Rwanda…..etc. Why don’t you for a change compare these against a real democracy like Canada, where I live with absolute freedom? I have been here for over 30 years and until to date no cop has ever knocked on my door?
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Shenal / December 16, 2017
Try to become a ISIS or Al Qaeda terrorist and see whether you can live peacefully in Canada. I bet no cop will knock on your door but burst it open with rocket launchers.
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Native Vedda / December 16, 2017
Shenal
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“Try to become a ISIS or Al Qaeda terrorist and see whether you can live peacefully in Canada. I bet no cop will knock on your door but burst it open with rocket launchers.”
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By the way here the torturers of the state explore the posterior of those caught with hot iron rod or pipe with barbed wire. Assuming you are caught at the wrong time at the wrong place ….. would you prefer a hot iron rod or barbed wire Zlon pipe?
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Why would anyone with bit of sanity want to become member of ISIS or Al-Qaeda unless of course she/he a Sinhala/Buddhist fascist?
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Tamil from the north / December 16, 2017
Shenal the mutt, the difference is ISIS and Al Qaeda are creations of the American hegemony and they are international terrorists who cause mutiny among innocent people all over the world. Innocent Tamils were slaughtered in SL, murdered for no reason. LTTE terrorism was a by-product of state terrorism. You reap what you sow. When Tamils were slaughtered did you complain or were you sitting on your thumb and rotating? Additionally, the Canadian government has the Charter of Rights which is in full force to protect minorities. If the English speaking Canadians even think of French speaking Canadians, there is an inquiry. You mess with the French we are done. Most of our PMs are French. That is how civilized nations operate.
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Jim softy / December 16, 2017
Dali Tamil from the North: why don’t you bring those go down the ocean ina sirusty boat to KENEda too and those 84000 looking for husbands. You coolie tamils have got what you deserve.
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Tamil from the north / December 17, 2017
Jim Shitty the global low class pariah of the state, I do not belong to your class of low lives. Ado firstly you need to write English properly. It is a very easy language to learn. What is the meaning of “inasirusty”? Is this a new word you have created just for you to understand? You cannot even spell “in a rusty” properly!!! Bloody cretin, firstly how could you even understand the plight of innocent minorities who were totally trounced in the hands of the state? Is this why your fu*&ing military clowns ran for 30 years from about 30k LTTE fellows? Cowards could not fight a war with the backing of the state, your valiant troops had to gather help from Pakistan, China, USA and India to beat the LTTE.
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Shenal / December 17, 2017
LTTE was also the creation of India and then later US and EU. Innocent people from both sides died during the conflict. It is called collateral damage. Infact it was Tamils reaped what they sow. If they sow more hatred they will reap hatred again.
Ask the Canadian government whether the charter of rights extends for terrorists in Canada?
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Real Siva Sankaran Sharma / December 17, 2017
Yes the LTTE was the creation of everyone else but not the by product of State sponsored Sinhalese racism and Sinhalese racists and bigots like you. Another fairly tale for the simpletons at Lanka Lies. Blame everyone else who were sidekicks but not the racist Sinhalese state and Sinhalese like you who are the main reason for the birth of the LTTE,. If there was no state sponsored large scale Pogrom against the island’s Tamils in 1983 , the LTTE would have been something marginal with hardly any support. Many senior Sinhalese and a Muslim minister gleefully participated and then to add to this the island’s President coming on state TV and stating that he only cried to see Sinhalese standing in queues to purchase bread but did not share a tear for the thousands of Tamils killed their homes and businesses burnt looter and their women raped by Sinhalese and Muslim thugs and hooligans. He did not cry as he and his ministers organised this. He then adds insult to injury by openly stating that if he starves and kills the Tamils the Sinhalese will be happy. Openly stated the truth and you Ji,mmy Shitty Nuisance, Somass, Taraki the dimwit and the rest are good examples of what Sinhalese think.
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Taraki / December 17, 2017
Real SSS have you noticed that Jim, Eusense, Soma etc never use abusive language like ass, dimwit, shitty, pariah. You people are a disgrace to all Tamils. VP would have had you shot.
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Native Vedda / December 17, 2017
Taraki
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Oh please.
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Pandi Kutti / December 18, 2017
We all know that you are Chingkala racist and admire other racist Chingkalams like you. They do not use abusive language! which planet are you from? They use abusive language post lies support and encourage the discrimination and killing of Tamils. Please read Shanal/Shenali’s comments . She once posted Tamils are low class Pariahs. Funny coming from her, as we all know her actual origin
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Shenal / December 18, 2017
Real Siva,
I didn’t said it wasn’t the fault of the Sinhalese. Moreover, what happened back in 1983 was a mistake and one of the prominent minister of the then government is the current Prime Minister now. It is rather ironic that you people have to go after him for the so called “justice” for Tamils. You should better ask him why couldn’t he stop the violence back then.
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Dr Dolittle / December 17, 2017
Shenal,
So, people like you want Sri Lanka to be a poor begging third world pariah nation/country forever with continuous Tamil uprising (peaceful, violent, non-violent, etc.) which means political instability, economic shrinkage/crisis and international interference (India, UK, US, EU, UN, etc.) forever. Don’t worry, if the Tamils are going down the pallam, they will take the Sinhalese also along with them. When there is no peace for Tamils, there won’t be any peace for the Sinhalese either. If you Sinhalese deprive the Tamil rights, they also will continue to suffer along with the Tamils. If the Sinhalese do not solve the Tamil issue, do not expect the Tamils to keep quite. That is the destiny. The Sinhalese must understand this basic law. It did not start now, it started in 1948 when the British gave the Tamil country (North & East) to the Sinhalese.
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Shenal / December 18, 2017
Dr. Dolittle,
Tamils won’t rise up if they were able to live happily and prosperously. It is the duty of the Central government to ensure that North and East are interlinked with the Southern areas and educational opportunities are amply provided.
It doesn’t matter if Tamils want our destruction alongside with them. It is better to go down the pallam rather than giving up the Sinhalese heritage over false claims.
Why didn’t British said anything about this Tamil country back in 1815? Why suddenly this Tamil country had sprung up in 1948?
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Native Vedda / December 18, 2017
Shenal
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“LTTE was also the creation of India and then later US and EU.”
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The father was S W RD Pandaranayagam and the mother was Siri Mao Pandaranayagam. LTTE’s great grand father was Anagarika Homeless Dharmapala.
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“Innocent people from both sides died during the conflict.”
You too care about the victims. It is interesting.
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“It is called collateral damage.”
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“Infact it was Tamils reaped what they sow. If they sow more hatred they will reap hatred again.”
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So why did innocent Sinhalese die from 5th April 1971 to 8th Jan 2015? It appears the Sinhalese people had sown more hatred to die in tsunami as well.
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“Ask the Canadian government whether the charter of rights extends for terrorists in Canada?”
Why don’t you do it and let us know about it, with reference of course?
By the way who created the racist JVP (Janatha Vikmuthi Peramuna—the People’s Liberation Front) and its armed wing? Who were the father and mother of this terrorist organisation?
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Shenal / December 18, 2017
Native Veddha,
Maybe because it was the Karma that caused the deaths of innocent Sinhalese. We can do anything about them.
I haven’t seen you provide any valuable references to the discussions. So why should I provide them for you instead?
JVP was the creation of some knuckleheads led by Rohana Wijeweera. Why do you want to know about JVP suddenly?
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Native Vedda / December 19, 2017
Shenal
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“Maybe because it was the Karma that caused the deaths of innocent Sinhalese. We can do anything about them.”
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How did they accumulate Karma? Does Karma work for the Sinhalese and not others?
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“I haven’t seen you provide any valuable references to the discussions. So why should I provide them for you instead?”
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I have been giving more than enough references in this forum. Unlike you I don’t hide.
“JVP was the creation of some knuckleheads led by Rohana Wijeweera. Why do you want to know about JVP suddenly?”
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I don’t want to know about the JVP if I have a choice. When I asked you a question about JVP it is a follow up to your stupid typing. If I need to know about JVP or any of the rotten parties all I have to do is speak to my Elders.
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Jim softy / December 16, 2017
You shiver when you see a COP there. In sinhale, you were making bombs, blowing up civilians, robbing banks. Talk about human rights.
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Eusense / December 16, 2017
Tfn
How foolish to come up with a stupid response?
Did Canada have suicide murdering terrorism??
To test your point why don’t you do a suicide murder of Innocent Canadian civilians. After that let me check what absolute freedom Tamils will have.
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Tamil from the north / December 19, 2017
Idiot nuisance, why does the Canadian Government discriminate and murder its own citizens? I live a free man in this beautiful country of mine. I have every right as native Canadians. Also did we have state sponsored terrorism in this country? Did we ever have riots where the minorities were dragged out onto the streets by sakiliyas called Buddhist monks and burnt alive? When I arrived I lived in an all white neighborhood, never have I ever experienced any type of racism or hatred towards me. I love this country for what it has done for me. So, do us all a favor, you go ahead and strap something to yourself pull the plug, then come and tell me all about your wonderful experience………………provided you are still alive………………….hahahahahahaha.
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Amarasiri / December 16, 2017
UN Working Group on Arbitrary Detention.
This is the LAND OF NATIVE VEDDA AETHHO, ARBITRARILY, occupied by the Paras, at various times, arriving by illegal boats, hora-orus and , kalla-thonis.
The Arbitrary Paras are only exercising their Arbitrary traditions.
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Shenal / December 16, 2017
Oh really? Where was the lawyer for Osama Bin Laden? The same is true for Sri Lanka.
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Buddhi Perera / December 15, 2017
These people come and say various things and I have never seen our government (past and present) say anything against what they say.
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Amarasiri / December 16, 2017
Buddhi Perera,
When a dog barks at the Moon, do all the other dogs bark at the Moon as well.
Yes, the barking dog points to the real danger, the Moon, that comes out regularly, like the arbitrary detentions, and nothing happens. So, the dog keeps barking.
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Estate Labourer / December 15, 2017
What is the Prez doing? The problem is he cannot read and understand any of this stuff. The result is, all this is like water off the duck’s back.
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Eusense / December 15, 2017
Laughable!
Who pays for these UN groups? Soon this type of wastage will be drained out when Trump cuts the US funding for the UN. Did this group go to Mynamar, China and Russia too and investigated about “enjoyment of personal liberty” ??? Or only to a poor country which stupidly involves in UN activity. The time has come for Sri Lanka to get out of the UN unless all countries are subjected to this kind of scrutiny.
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Upali Wickramasinghe / December 16, 2017
Eusense: Let us rename this article: UN Working Group on arbitrary Detention Rags Maithree and Ranil. The current duo to entertaining us.
What choice has the electorate got? Will we ever produce STATESMEN? Men like President Park of Korea – economy, Gen Ramos of Philippines- handled the catholic church or Gen Ne Win of Burma ( Myanmar)- handled the politicised Buddhist monks. They delivered. I see nobody in the horizon from any of the political parties.The only untested are the leading Tamil politicians.
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Ajith / December 16, 2017
Eusense,
Ha! Ha!
Who is Trump? Your uncle Mahinda’s follower?
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K.Pillai / December 15, 2017
When the language/religion-divide was created and exploited, did we expect to be in the UN radar? Should we remain there or get out?
There is bound to be a flurry of comments which will say that this country and that one must be investigated so why us? There is some logic here but this must not be used to stonewall our infamous issue.
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Richard / December 15, 2017
It is unfortunate the UN has to just do some monitoring only and not able to make Sri Lanka work responsibly. Even though they are fully aware the Politicians have their own agenda from their experience and the UN is unable to get them set a good example. What more proof do they need and for how long will they allow the bad egg to spoil other good eggs? They should have at least learnt from the recent history how they split the people using the majority antagonize the minority and using the racist platform to capture power. With little support from some minority politicians enjoying perks ans hi-fi life the Government need not worry about the promises made to the International community.
The UN will have to ultimately say sorry to the International community for not stopping Sri Lanka from committing genocide just as they said sorry they din’t stop Sri Lanka from bombing and shelling the civilians ans Hospitals during the war!
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Douglas / December 16, 2017
Now a question has arisen in the minds of the PEOPLE of the “Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka”; viz: WHO RULES THIS COUNTRY? Is it by a “VICEROY” of the UN and CONTROLLED through a brigade of “VICE SQUADS”, such as IMF; WORLD BANK; UNHRC; EU; etc……etc….etc.
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Native Vedda / December 16, 2017
Douglas
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“WHO RULES THIS COUNTRY?”
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Good question.
The answer is no one seems to democratically govern this country.
The answer is simple, if you don’t treat your family well strangers are ever ready to grope your women folks. When they grope please don’t ask why, what, when how, …… this happened to your family. The only solution is make sure you will not only have to treat your family well but also neighbours’s one as well.
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Jim softy / December 16, 2017
The best answer for UNHCR people is just neglect them or do not allow them in Sri lanka.
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Native Vedda / December 16, 2017
Jim softy the dimwit
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“The best answer for UNHCR people is just neglect them or do not allow them in Sri lanka.”
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Neglect – fail to care for properly or the state of being uncared for.
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Its a very good idea to refuse permission to enter this island. However UN too can press embargo on President, prime-minister and ministers,…………………
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Shenal / December 16, 2017
NV,
So, let them be. Either we will survive or die. Why live a boring life? Oh I guess before UN put embargoes on us they have to burrow some money from China.
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Native Vedda / December 16, 2017
Shenal
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“So, let them be. Either we will survive or die. Why live a boring life? Oh I guess before UN put embargoes on us they have to burrow some money from China.”
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Being a member of the Sinhala/Buddhist fascist parasite I don’t believe death will approach you soon however before you die you would have killed most innocent inhabitants.
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Will you prevent the Chinese from lending/donating some money to the UN? If so you must be the most powerful friend of China.
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Pandi Kutti / December 16, 2017
Shenal./Shenali , your brainwashed simple childish fans are eagerly awaiting their next lot of gothic bedtime stories about the evil wicked Tamils on their favourite web site Lanka Lies. Please do not waste any time here as you have very few fans or following here. Please hurry, the children are crying ” Ammi where is aunty Shenali with her next lot of tales regarding the evil Tamils? We cannot go to sleep until you read them to us” Hurry Shanl Hurry Shenali. Even Pandi Kutti reads your Lanka Lies fairy tales to the little animals in the barn.
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Amarasiri / December 16, 2017
Native Veddah Aethho should have done that to the Paras.
Is it too late? Can send the Pars back to their homelands.
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rbh / December 16, 2017
Don’t borrow money from them
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Dr Dolittle / December 18, 2017
Your suggestion is good if we have a terrorist problem in the country but what we have right now is a fully internationalized civil issue and the present day TNA is considered by the world as a very moderate political party willing to compromise (come down) from their previous separate state stand to the present federal state. If there is no terrorism (LTTE), the Tamils are always at an advantage because the UN, US and the Western world always supports the underdog. Today, the entire world knows that there is a Tamil issue in Sri Lanka. They will continue to haunt SL and will not let SL live in peace unless the solve the problem is solved.
The Rajapakshe regime tried all what you said above and failed, the entire western world not only isolated Sri Lanka but gave them a very hard time at Geneva, finally making sure that they lose the election. We cannot purely depend on China because they have a different hidden agenda.
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Jim softy / December 16, 2017
I herd One Bandula Gunarathne wants to develop Mulativu area. His plan to is to build a port in there and use the Asevana Prathya, one boat waiting proper use. Kapila says, Bandula wants to keep it in the port for some time. Another destination for the boat is Trincomalee.
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Jim softy / December 16, 2017
Bandula gunarathne with the help of one jayawardane wants to import KErala Ganja via that port.
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somithin / December 16, 2017
Mr. Kodithuwakku: is it true, that if some one goes to insure a car, they say is you are lawyer, we decrease insurance payment. If you are politician, there is no tax.
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K.Anaga / December 16, 2017
People may come and people may go but we don’t care for what ever they say. We are a nation with over two thousand five hundred years of civilization. Therefore we have the right to do what we do, especially with the minorities. We can put them behind bars without charges and forget about them, kill them, maim them. All what we want is Rice and Coconuts and some Loan from World Bank, Asian Development Bank and various assistance from the UN without question..
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Douglas / December 16, 2017
Native Vedda: Thank you. You are the “Only ONE” who UNDERSTOOD my “Sarcasm” directed at both the past and the present Administrators of our country. What does that indicate? Mind you, our “Literacy Rate” is 98.5%.
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Native Vedda / December 17, 2017
Douglas
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The important question is what are we going to do about it. Well with Hindian and American help we can have another regime change, back to square one. We do pride ourselves being more literate than say our neighbours. Did higher level of literacy help us to produce intelligent voters/leaders?
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Those who benefit from either of the “big” parties pray and hope for things to continue. They for at least now don’t want to rock the boat. However on the other hand though nothing will happen to the crooks, murderers and war criminals, …………………it is their greed for power and wealth makes the JO (whatever that means) restless, definitely not the law. At present they are safe with Siri/Ranil duo than if they are governing themselves.
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Mallaiyuran / December 17, 2017
Who is ruling the Country? In general, it just a good question. But it is nothing much different than “how to make a super computer?” or even “How to make an atomic bomb”. The questions’ sole interesting part is resting on the complexity of the expected answer. On the other side, who is ruling a democratic country gets answered simply,” we the people”. Douglas understands but not willing to accept the world order. Again, what is world order is difficult to answer, but it is only of who makes the things happen (It is unimportant that Wiki or any dictionary may not accepts our way of thinking).
In a democratic ruling, the government has to be of the people of the land. So nobody can step into another land and have it voted and rule. There was a democratic government in South Africa in Pretoria time. But it was not accepted as democratic government in world order. The reason was people of the land were not the rulers, though the government was Democratic. Australia is difficult question, because the rulers are not the people of the land but the world order recognize it. Crimea voted for Russian over authority. World Order is not able to recognize it. Russia may end up paying for the consequences or may leave, Crimea even though Crimean wanted that. Catalonians and Kurtis are not able to exercise their rights under World Order. Somebody wrote a question that Chinese and Russian are doing a lot like what is happening in Ceylon, but did these UN official(Arbitrary detention) visited there? Probably, the answer might be that is not the world Order.
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Mallaiyuran / December 17, 2017
For example, Lankawe was told to take care of the women rights by EU. They specifically pointed their finger on MMDA too. Yahapalanaya dodge it. It made as law that women should recruited in political parties. In Lankawe’s current situation, it is well acceptable, but not necessarily a democratic action. Then it passed the law for consensual sex between husband and wife. Practically this is not heard in Lankawe. Yahapalanaya is only beating around the bush. It doesn’t not want to lose the advantage it is having by maintaining Muslims women as a separate element in the citizenship. If EU has managed some or how to get the MMDA reviewed, then they are part of the world order. Otherwise, if Lankawe only cheat with Spouses consensual sex, but MMDA the major violator remains, then that response will be only a friendly gesture to EU request, not recognizing the world order.
It is here the Sinhalese are targeting their question of who is ruling them, on the eve of UN’s Arbitrary Detention officials’ visit. Chinese loans are expensive, Chinese forcefully taking away Lankawe’s land as flesh for pound. IMF or World Bank don’t impose loans and don’t bribe officials to force it too, but give the loans cheaper, provided the governments displays humanitarian norms and real interest in developments with the loan (That is rectifying the defect that caused to obtain a loan). So why the Sinhalese, when the UN WGAD visited they point their finger at IMF? It is because their fear of UN passing future judgements on their citizens.
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Mallaiyuran / December 17, 2017
UN is not the everything in World Order, but a good portion of it. UN is not a court, but has managed to pass or deliver judgements to private citizens mainly by ICC. A citizen has his/her sovereignty. He/she pledges it and creates the state and the government with its sovereignty. For a citizen, it is the only one can administer the judgments. Two private, sovereign citizens may not make a contract by passing the government for pass judgments between them. The sovereign state over rule their contract and take the authority into its hand. A citizen’s understanding is only his/her government has the authority to pass judgement on him/her, no other private party. Further, the pledged sovereignty of the individual may not be delivered to a third party, even with or without the consent of the citizen. Lankawe cannot deport a citizen to be investigated in India or China or America for his/her crime. The pledged sovereignty cannot be sublet by the state. In that case, UN is not a legitimate court of country; a citizen did not vote direct to UN; so, it is reasonable that Sinhalese wondering how UN is attempting to pass judgements on their brethren.
The Individual and states sovereignty may be perceived as emancipating from the UN declarations, Lankawe may sign as many conventions as it wants with UN, but at the end of the day, it is only the people government, which got the pledge from people to administer them. UN is, still only a gentlemen club, not a governing body.
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Mallaiyuran / December 17, 2017
But these all are now in uncertainties. What is going around there is an atomic bomb assembling question. In few years, if ICC sends its own police force to arrest a criminal he, who committed it during his normal life in his Land, would not be a surprise, because administering that part would be only UN’s part, not the government elected under election process. This police force is not the Peace Keepers stationed in the country already or not the Multinational army charging on that country to remove an unacceptable government for World Order. This arises only by the shared governmental responsibility of the State with the UN.
It will have its advantages and disadvantages to the people. It will be similar confusion effect of the ever changing models of the cell phones. Before we accustoms to something and starts to get along with it, the new thing comes in. But it will have some special advantages to some troubling countries. Many Lankawe like developing countries that are shaken by the globalization, world order, Cosmopolitan culture, are slipping behind from their current state, instead of advancing and catching up with developed nations. Sharing governmental responsibility with UN will be Catalyst for them stand up back again and travel on the progressive path. Of cause the developed nation will have higher resistance than the developing nations to share it with UN. For example, Lankawe has pledged to sign the anti-landmine treaty, but there is no sign of India, China, Russia America… bending for that. Same with ICC or Universal Jurisdiction.
So, in future, to the question of “who is ruling? “ , the answer is not going to be one entity. But for the question of “Who should be ruling” the answer is “Whoever should be ruling that part, is the one should rule it, not Appe Aanduwa” is the answer.
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Douglas / December 17, 2017
Native Vedda: Thanks. That “Quote” re. “Literacy Rate” is , yet another “Sarcasm”. That “Rate” doesn’t matter or mean anything to me. My “Rating” is only based on “GANA” or “WISDOM”. So far over decades our voters, who are “SELFISH”, have been MADE to “RELY” on the crafty politicians who in turn are the “SUCKERS”. Look at the latest decision to “Appoint” a “Foreign Adviser” to ADVISE on how to combat corruption. Another “Senior Minister” of “Donkey’s Years” of experience in the
Legislature at a PUBLIC EVENT, stating: “The Government is ours and the Police is ours. We will beat and chase away anyone”. Then another “Junior Minister” from Kaluthara, when questioned at a TV debate as to what his “Election Slogan” for the forthcoming Local Govt. election, saying to the public: “We are the Government. If you want to get anything done at Local Level, VOTE for the candidate of the Governing party”. Mind you “HE” is a “Legal Luminary”. The people keep listening to these CRAP & BS and still “PRAY” for for HELP from the very politicians who continue to “PREY” on them. The SOLUTION is to start at “BASE” with only a “COMMON SENSE AWARENESS REVOLUTION” with a view to “INCARCERATE” all these vagabonds and start FRESH with a BRAND NEW brigade who would not PREY upon the people for their survival. This is TOUGH; but WORTH undertaking it. Have HOPES!?
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Jim Softy / December 17, 2017
Technically speaking arbitrary detention of Tamils and Muslims are not illegal because they are illegal immigrants anyway.
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Native Vedda / December 18, 2017
Jim Softy
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“Technically speaking arbitrary detention of Tamils and Muslims are not illegal because they are illegal immigrants anyway.”
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I don’t mind as long as the detention leads to deportation of the whole lot back to their ancestral home land. Don’t be stupid, you cannot have double standards here. Therefore you make sure for every Tamil/Muslim you will have to deport at least 5 Sinhala speaking person.
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When do you want me to round up, detain and deport you?
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Tamil from the north / December 20, 2017
Native Vedda, I have said this before and I will say it again. The Tamils and the Sinhalese invaded this beautiful country which once belonged to your folks. Robbed the natives of everything they owned. Now these idiots are busy fighting to see who came first. What a dance these racist monkeys are dancing. While other nations look for ways to move forward by cooperating with each other, these idiots are sitting here Tamils did this and the Sinhalese did that……………the blaming drama has been going on for too long. You elect a government and the f&*king arseholes cannot rule the damn country without the buddhist clergy interfering in local politics. Why can’t we live and let other live as well. At least be thankful that we all have a country to enjoy and honor the real owners of this country………you and your folks.
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Tamil from the north / December 20, 2017
Jimbo Shitty the dumbo, that means the Sinhalese are illegals too. Remember you left Orissa and we came from the South. So go figure you uneducated gamaya fool!!!
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Manicka Vasagar / December 20, 2017
Just ask the UN HRC High Commissioner to refer Sri Lanka to the ICC and to the UN Security Council, and for a UN conducted referendum for the Tamils.
Peace be upon all of us.
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