The All Ceylon Jamiyathul Ulama today reverted its said position and admitted that the Muslim Marriage and Divorce Act needs reforms, however with no reference to the need for reform of Child Marriage and the consent required from females when entering a contract of marriage among other key issues.
Rizvi Mufthi
Responding to the assertion of the head of the ACJU Mufthi Rizwi, that the MMDA is “perfect in its present state ” the ACJU said the statement had been misinterpreted.
The ACJU did not deny the contents of an alarming submission it made to several parliamentarians in which it defended thee right to marry girls before attaining puberty.
Issuing a statement today the ACJU said the main area of reform needs to be on the Qazi court system instead. The statement made no mention of the initial submission in which the main theological arm of the Muslims insisted that a “No people will ever prosper who appoint a woman in charge of their affairs” and “therefore a woman isn’t worthy of being appointed a Qazi” quoting Hadith ( narration of the Prophet ).
The statement which quotes the Quran and Hadith insists however in justice and equality to all genders.
“Finally, the correct understanding of the statement, “Islam is a religion of equality”, is that, “Islam is a religion of justice”. This means being ‘just’ in treating equally those who are equal and, being ‘just’ when differentiating between those who are different. The ACJU invites all to join hands in this noble work to reform the MMDA and to protect the rights of oppressed women and the rights of every individual” the statement says, without no mention of the agreement to appoint females as Qazis.
The statement insists that the ACJU had worked for reform with the committee “Unitedly” in stark contrast to reports and the statement made by the Chairman of the committee Justice Saleem Marsoof who said that the Ulamas were using all possible means to hamper the process.
The MMDA in its current form allows for child marriage and requires no consent from the bride. It also doesn’t permit females to sit as judges in the Qazi court.
The Colombo Telegraph is in possession of evidence in which the Ulamas and other conservative groups have been sending out forms to obtain signatures and add names of women against the MMDA reforms at the mosque during Friday sermon, attended by only men.
We publish below the abatement in full:
The All Ceylon Jamiyyathul Ulama (ACJU) ever since its establishment has always taken a very flexible and moderate approach, within the framework of Shari’ah and the greater public interest, when consulting on any issue.
Such facilitation is based on the Quranic verse where it says:
“Allah intends (to provide) ease for you and does not intend (to create) hardships for you.“ (Chapter 2 Verse 185).
In addition, Prophet Muhammed (May Peace and blessings be on him) has said :
“Make things easy and do not make them difficult, cheer the people up by conveying glad tidings to them and do not repulse (them).”
In another instance the Messenger of Allah said: “Indeed, this religion is easy”.
It becomes the duty of the Ulama (religious scholars) to ensure that matters pertaining to the religion are not made difficult to the people. Especially, because it has been mentioned that Ulama are the inheritors of the prophets.
Yet another instance by which the ACJU and Ulama are limited by the Quran is where it mentions :
“Oh you who believe do not hold as unlawful the good things Allah has made lawful for you” (Chapter 5, Verse 87).
It is clear from the above verse that the ACJU neither has the power to make what is unlawful lawful nor the power to make what is lawful unlawful.
Unfortunately, the statement made by the President of the ACJU that the “Muslim Marriage and Divorce Act (MMDA) is perfect in its present state”, has been subjected to misinterpretation.
In fact, what he wanted to express was that our predecessors who were involved in formulating the MMDA had taken great efforts to make it near perfect. Of course, given the circumstances of that period. This does not imply that there need not be any reforms today to the Act, mainly in the administration of Quazi court system.
There has also been an unfair allegation against ACJU that it is not ready to listen to the grievances of the women. There is no truth at all in this allegation. ACJU wishes to highlight that it will be a gross violation of Islamic religious teachings to ignore the women or not to give them the honour and respect that Islam has bestowed on them. ACJU is therefore, bound by these religious teachings.
See the examples elucidated below, where the Almighty Allah, the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and the Righteous Caliphs were ready to listen to the women.
The Quran states:
“Allah has heard the talk of the woman who was debating with you about her husband” (Chapter 58 Verse 1).
During the incident of Hudaibiya, it is recorded that Prophet (PBUH) listened to his wife Umme Salma’s advice.
Also, it has been recorded that the Caliph, Umar bin Kattab while he was in the pulpit, a woman questioned him and he was listening to her and willing to accept her clarification.
When Quran and the Prophetic teachings guide us so clearly, how can one conclude that ACJU is acting contrary to such teachings. As has always been the case, ACJU is willing and ready to listen to the grievances of women. Our doors are always open not only for the women but, for anybody who is willing to have a dialogue.
These misconceptions and the communication gap that is dominating events today need to be removed. We strongly believe that it is through dialogue that we can sort out all our problems. The Muslim Marriage and Divorce Act, is a topic which has been spoken widely in many circles and forums these days. In this regard, ACJU believes without doubt, the MMDA as it stands today definitely needs reforms.
ACJU as a responsible institution has to look into various aspects, inter alia :
(1) matters of relevance to the religious teachings;
(2) finding solutions to the grievances of the women;
(3) ensuring the acceptance and acknowledgement of the larger Muslim community;
(4) establishing justice to each and everyone to the best possible extent.
In doing so, we as Religious Scholars are willing to be flexible and accommodative to the fullest extent. In the same vein, it is the bounden religious duty of the Scholars to alert the Committee in the area of Shariah principles, as relevant.
From its inception, the ACJU has been very careful in handling the MMDA matter and it has always given its fullest support to the committee. In this long journey, the committee has moved forward unitedly and as a team. We believe that InshaAllah we can conclude the committee proceedings in a manner that is satisfactory to all.
The comprehensive report which we have submitted to the reform committee has provided detailed explanation to all the key topics of the MMDA reforms. If someone goes through this report he/she will understand the stand of ACJU and the rationale behind its suggestions.
Finally, the correct understanding of the statement, “Islam is a religion of equality”, is that, “Islam is a religion of justice”. This means being ‘just’ in treating equally those who are equal and, being ‘just’ when differentiating between those who are different. The ACJU invites all to join hands in this noble work to reform the MMDA and to protect the rights of oppressed women and the rights of every individual.
Ash-Sheikh Mufti M.I.M. Rizwe President – ACJU and Ash-Sheikh M.M.A. Mubarak General Secretary – ACJU
SEA... / April 3, 2017
Interesting how CT is pushing this agenda…Seems NGOs along with WAN n CT are hell bent on CHANGING Islamic divine rulings…Allah knows to protect his religion…those who make a mockery will face the music…let’s wait n see..
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Sheroza M / April 3, 2017
SEA..
What you’re saying is underage marriage is okay, no to female quazis, no to consent, no to equality etc? In essence all of this is a mockery to you?
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Concerned Muslim / April 3, 2017
It is time to boycott this Rizvie Mufthi and ACJU. They are not theologians. They interpret Islam to suit themselves and to control the Muslims. Without ACJU, he is a no body !
Let the educated Muslim community take a lead and get these rascals thrown out of these associations and it’s licenses cancelled.
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Amarasiri / April 3, 2017
Concerned Muslim
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1. “It is time to boycott this Rizvie Mufthi and ACJU. They are not theologians. “
Then how are you going to get NEW Revelations from Angel Gabtiel?
2. “They are not theologians. They interpret Islam to suit themselves and to control the Muslims. Without ACJU, he is a no body ! “
Do the ACJU Follow the Satan infested Wahhabi-Salafies, based on Petro Dollars from Riyadh as per Hadith of Najd? Wahhabis have Kings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith_of_Najd
So Al-Kindi was right 1,200 years ago. Ibn Rushd, Averroes, was right 900 years ago.
What did one of the greatest Islamic Scholars, Judge, Polymath and Philosopher, Ibn Rushd, aka Averroes say about the Theologians and the common people?
He Says: Only the learned can understand the “Precious Book”, The Quran, the Book of knowledge. The learned are the Philosophers.
The Theologians, Ulama are litertalists, do not understand, because they are not learned. All your narration about the deficiencies of the Ulama have been observed 1,000 years and only the philosophers can.
So what did the Ulama do? Get the authorities to burn the Philosophy books. This happened to Ibn Rushd’s books.
Unfortunately only a fraction of the Muslim men, understand the real issues and the knowledge contained in the “Precious Book”, the Quran, per Ibn Rushd. Al-Kindi, accused the Hanabalites and other traditionalists, of graft and social ambition. For they assume the posture of genuine seekers of truth, he writes, “simply defend.the positions of pre-eminence on society, as a means of gaining ascendancy or trafficking in religion:whereas they are devoid of religion altogether”
This description perfectly fits the current Ulama of ACJU, and Muslim girls and women should be included as well for protection, without being treated like chattel, as per the Ulama of ACJU.
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Muslim / April 19, 2017
We must. Throw this Rizvi mufti and the so called clerics to the dust bin.He himself earned all the money through the halal issue and made a fortune being on the good side of Gota . All are crooks we Muslim s need not follow these crooks . We have our Quran and Prophet Muhammeds hadies as our guide.This man Rizvi mufti has I am told two wives and has taken one to America for treatment through Gota the crook.
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SEA... / April 3, 2017
Do u PERSONALLY KNOW OF anyone who got married under 16? Tho this permissibility is there ….its not happening in SL? But everyone is ready to jump on the bandwagon….if by divine ruling female Quazis are acceptable…why not? But not to please govts or NGOs or activists….who better knows the laws of Islam than the Ulemas and Mufthis who have learned and understand the Quran Hadeeth..fiqh…and NOT judges who have qualified to interpret. Roman Dutch laws and not ISLAMIC laws… Mockery is when Human try to Challenge Divine laws…that’s what I meant…sometimes reading between the line helps…
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Amarasiri / April 3, 2017
SEA…
“Do u PERSONALLY KNOW OF anyone who got married under 16?:
Go to the schools in the Eastern Province, kook at the girls who dropped out, and ask the Principal as to why they dropped out.
You will likely find many.
If you did that 50 years ago, you would have found plenty.
It is the Free Education and schooling that made the difference, despite MMDA.
The results would have been similar, but to a lesser degree in the other provinces.
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Ralli Ameen / April 5, 2017
Amarasiri
Sea’s question is whether you personally know who got married under 16 meant calling for statistic. If you can provide that it is okay but it is wrong to say go to Eastern Province and ask the Principal. What about the other provinces. My view also, not just an unjustifiable utterance like go to East and see, no Muslims in Sri Lanka gives their daughter who is under 16 in marriage. There can be negligible amount due to forced or illegal affair. What will you do if your under 16 daughter found pregnant? Will you abort the pregnancy (killing) or kill the daughter? A loving and sensible parents will try to make them live together as husband and wife. If you go for statistic you will find numerous such case among Sinhalese and Tamils too. This Ulemas too must use their head and try to reform the MMDA laws where ever necessary.
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Amarasiri / April 6, 2017
Ralli Ameen
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1. “Sea’s question is whether you personally know who got married under 16 meant calling for statistic.”
Yes. Not 12 year olds, but 15 or 16 year olds.
It is hard to know, especially for men to know, but how do you get to know?
Even if one knows a few, the sample size being small, it is likely to be statistically invalid. So, only data from marriage certificates can be relied upon for accuracy.
One hears about so and so’s sister was married young, or hears that so and so’s daughter got married young, while still going to school. There have been cases reported by many especially by the women.
2. “My view also, not just an unjustifiable utterance like go to East and see, no Muslims in Sri Lanka gives their daughter who is under 16 in marriage. There can be negligible amount due to forced or illegal affair. What will you do if your under 16 daughter found pregnant?”
You should ask that Question from the women’s groups who are agitating. They are likely to have factual data.
3. “This Ulemas too must use their head and try to reform the MMDA laws where ever necessary.”
The Ulama do NOT have the intelligence, and their sole concern is their hegemony, and take cover under the religion, the Quran and Hadith, and interpret it THEIR Way. Read up on the comments by Al-Kindi and Ibn Rushd, about 1,000 years ago.
Go and ask the Ulama, how many Chromosomes they have. Is it 46, or 48? Ask about their Chromosome #2. Ask them if the Earth was spread out like a carpet, and if the Sun sets in a dark water or place, and if the mountains are pegged, so that they are stable.
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Ralli Ameen / April 11, 2017
Amarasiri
Regarding statistic you say, “yes. Not 12 years old, but 15 to 16” which means even 13 to 14 years you do not know. Okay if you know 15, 16 years please give the statistic by area etc. otherwise anybody can say that. You talk about marriage certificate, it is easy to get the statistic of those who had married at 15, 16 years through NGOs or some organization like ‘woman rights group’. Then you say about gossips that is so and so married young or got married while going to school. So you can get those statistic from women who say that. I had never known a school going girl getting married. I travel to many parts of Sri Lanka and never come across brides who were over 19 years old. This is not statistic but knowledge gained from personal experience.
Your para 2: It is you who should ask from women group. If they are Muslim I am sure their answer will be, “A loving and sensible parents will try to make them live together as husband and wife”.
Para 3 says, “The Ulama do NOT have the intelligence”. If they do not have intelligence they cannot become Ulamas. They must use their head (intelligence) means without sticking to misinterpreted hadiths. You refer to Ibn Rushd, it is a huge subject to explain here. To make it short Ibn Rushd belongs to The Mālikī madhhab. The Maliki school of jurisprudence relies on the Quran and hadiths as primary sources like the Shafi madhhab. This Ulama following Shafi madhhab is no different to Ibn Rushd, so how can you say Ulema is wrong? What I say here is Ulema should not follow the misinterpretation but the truth which is open to any change.
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Ralli Ameen / April 11, 2017
I travel to many parts of Sri Lanka and never come across brides who were OVER 19 years old.
Correction: never come across brides who were UNDER 19 years old.
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Sylvia Haik / April 7, 2017
Ralli Ameen your argument is ridiculous. It is absolutely irrelevant if anyone knows or not any girl of under 16 given in marriage. As long as under-age marriage is allowed, in any religion, it is an abomination. I have never been to China, but I know for certain it exists. You are only providing ammunition to the likes of Gnanasara Thera etc.to beat the Muslims with. The Muslims should strive to abandon the cruel Shariah Laws and embrace the perfectly adequate Sri Lankan laws that had stood the test of time.
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Ralli Ameen / April 11, 2017
Sylvia Haik
Your comment is ridiculous. I never said underage is allowed or not allowed but pointed out the facts it is a misinterpreted hadith which Ulema follows. How can it add ammunition to a drunkard, womanising, rowdy monk Gnanasara Thera and the likes?
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Sabeera Cader / April 4, 2017
Do you even know what falls within shariah law and what falls within the fiqhi process? I’m garduate of shariah and civil law. And I can assure you that the matter of age and consent of women that is pushed forth for amendments is NOT GOING against divine law. It falls very much within the maqasid al shariah and anything that falls within it is not going against Islam. ACJU has failed to process it in the e proper understanding of Usual fiqh which requires the intellectual components of ijtihad and requires Ijma. Evidently they seem to be unaware of the fiqhi processes or choose to be ignorant about it and instead continue to contradict themselves in every possible manner.
Islam is for all times and which is why it allows for certain precautionary rulings to be prescribed when deemed necessary. Just the way the earlier Muslim empires did by raising the age to 17 years old..
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Amarasiri / April 4, 2017
Sabeera Cader
“Evidently they(ACJU) seem to be unaware of the fiqhi processes or choose to be ignorant about it and instead continue to contradict themselves in every possible manner.”
It is about ACLU hegemony of the Ulama,and looks like they have learned something from the Rajapaksa and cronies and the current joint opposition.
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kp / April 4, 2017
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kp / April 3, 2017
If you are this determined to be a pedophile and a rapist, maybe consider moving to Thailand.
Any god that is willing to reward pedos and rapists isn’t a god. We have no need of his ‘music’.
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Sea.. / April 3, 2017
Going nowhere…born n bred in SL yes a MUSLIM. Thailand is for pussies I ain’t one…since u want others to go…u might be one.lol @ interpretation…. Abiththos come to mind…
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kp / April 4, 2017
Yeah, I dont care what comes to your mind. All I care about is the fact that you (and every single one that liked your comments) think bedding kids is a cause for a ‘lol’ and some classic third-world projection.
I’ll say it again, if you want to hide behind a religion to hide your desire to rape a kid, your nationality isn’t going to matter when they string you up on a tree. Or worse, when they jail you. Let’s see how long that “I’m not a pussy” talk lasts when you’re getting some of your ‘divine’ intervention there.
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Amarasiri / April 3, 2017
SEA…, The Ignorant
The problems started when the Ulemas took an upper hand and controlled, just like the Sinhala-Buddhist Monks, and the Catholic popes. The people need to be freed from them. The low IQ of the people helps the Ulama, Priests and Monks.
Yes, until then the people will be slaves to the Ulama, Priests and Monks.
The Ulama of ACJU are NOT Scholars. They are literalists, who even cannot correctly understand and interpret the Quran and Hadith. They appear as Idiots who wants to maintain their hegemony. It is about their hegemony. Just read what Al-kindi had to say in the 9th Century.
Abu Yūsuf Yaʻqūb ibn ʼIsḥāq aṣ-Ṣabbāḥ al-Kindī ( 801–873 AD), known as “the Philosopher of the Arabs”, was a Muslim Arab philosopher, polymath, mathematician, physician and musician. Al-Kindi was the first of the Muslim peripatetic philosophers, and is unanimously hailed as the “father of Islamic or Arabic philosophy” for his synthesis, adaptation and promotion of Greek and Hellenistic philosophy in the Muslim world.
Unfortunately only a fraction of the Muslim men, understand the real issues and the knowledge contained in the “Precious Book”, the Quran, per Ibn Rushd. Al-Kindi, accused the Hanabalites and other traditionalists, of graft and social ambition. For they assume the posture of genuine seekers of truth, he writes, “simply defend.the positions of pre-eminence on society, as a means of gaining ascendancy or trafficking in religion:whereas they are devoid of religion altogether”
This description perfectly fits the current Ulama of ACJU, and Muslim girls and women should be included as well for protection, without being treated like chattel, as per the Ulama of ACJU.
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Sea.. / April 3, 2017
Amare the All knowing who knows only to copy paste…stop thinking ur all that…leave out what u do not know and making a fool of yourself…BTW all what’s on Wikipedia is not authentic…FYI…
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Amarasiri / April 3, 2017
Sea..
Did the All Ceylon Jamatul Ulama ( ACJU) receive a NEW Revelation from Angel Gabriel, Abrogating the OLD Revelations they based their earlier position, or it it that, they are not knowledgeable and it is hegemony, as Ibn Rushd, and Al-Kindi stated 900 and 1,200 years ago?
Just curious.
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Razick / April 5, 2017
SEA, why can’t you put your real name. Why do you hide behind a nonsense name. As per your own logic DO YOU PERSONALLY KNOW…., how can you refute wikipedia is not authentic. Anyway, anonymous Rascals LIKE U cannot EDIT wikipedia as it comes with privilege which you have to earn. BDW HOW MANY GOLD COINS you sold to innocent victims???
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SEA... / April 5, 2017
Dumb qunt read what u typed….does it even make sense? if I’m a rascal for using an alias n it bothers…… ummmm im NOT sorry ….welcome to the world of internet….btw if i used a name are u that gullible to think its my real name? Grow up KID… U don’t have to have a privilege to edit wikipedia….wake up n smell the coffee…
Lol at as per my logic……….. Nigga pls….
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SEA... / April 5, 2017
Can Wikipedia be trusted?
And finally, the number one reason you can’t cite or rely on Wikipedia: 1. … Wikipedia says, “We do not expect you to trust us.” It adds that it is “not a primary source” and that “because some articles may contain errors,” you should “not use Wikipedia to make critical decisions.”
The Top 10 Reasons Students Cannot Cite or Rely On Wikipedia
I REST MY CASE….??
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Mallaiyuran / April 3, 2017
America has warned that there is a chance ISIS might have penetrated in Lankawe. Without understanding that don’t issue blank warning and threat like Izeth and Latheef. Prophet can’t wait too long for you to wait to get your 72 virgin women in the heaven.
Don’t be a fool to issue hidden warnings. Dump, don’t make Lankawe another Iraq idiot.
Are you an Ulama too?
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Sea.. / April 3, 2017
Idiots look at mirrors n think they seeing others… Go byvAmericas word…make another Libya Iraq in SL…
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Aku / April 4, 2017
Hey SEA… I was born into Islam but have walked away from religion cos of idiots like you and this so called mufti… Do you even know the meaning of being equal??? Maybe you and the mufti-guy and all other men like you should get a sex change done… Become women and dress like potato sacks… Muslim men are INSECURE, thats why their women have to cover from head to feet while the men??? They go out for sex… Seriously, castrate yourselves so you wont need to torture an under aged child/girl through marriage…
Are you saying that all Muslims are pedophiles???
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SEA... / April 4, 2017
Aku arent u a borah a shite… ? Who say ya Ali Ya imam u don’t believe in the caliphate……so Ud not know the principles of ISLAM…. IF u walked away from Islam u have no part in it to play…I’m not one for underage marriage…are u even for over age marriage? Stop calling others Idiots not knowing ur one and is dancing naked…exposing yourself…
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Aku / April 4, 2017
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Mallaiyuran / April 4, 2017
Are you an Ulama too? I wrote.
Idiots look at mirrors n think they seeing others You wrote!
Are you saying I talk like Ulamas or Ulamas, in your opinion, talking like me? I don’t think Ulamas have heads to act like me! Then, properly, for you, I am sounding like one the annoying thing you frequently come across over there, though on the opposite way. Is that right?
Wishing all the best for you in the “American Virgin Island”.
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kp / April 4, 2017
Yeah. Outlawing child marriages will cause a civil war in Sri Lanka.
Won’t someone please think of all the poor fellows who can’t have sex with a child! Oh boo hoo!
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Amarasiri / April 3, 2017
The All Ceylon Jamiyathul Ulama, ACJU
RE: Sri Lankan Muslim Clerics Revert Stance On MMDA Reform;
Did Angel Gabriel come up with a new Revelation?
“The All Ceylon Jamiyathul Ulama today reverted its said position and admitted that the Muslim Marriage and Divorce Act needs reforms, however with no reference to the need for reform of Child Marriage and the consent required from females when entering a contract of marriage among other key issues.”
Q. Did Angel Gabriel come up with a new Revelation, abrogating the Old Revelations, you were basing your previous positions on Divine Law?
Or was it that you were litertalists, as the Philosophers ( lovers of wisdom) claim, and you are not people of knowledge?
How did you manage to contact Angel Gabriel? Many want to know.
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reviewcric / April 4, 2017
Allah must be a great god, but his followers have certainly disgraced his teachings of equality and equity. shame on the ACJU on paying lip service to reforming Muslim personal laws.
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Shehzad / April 3, 2017
What’s wrong with the agenda of getting rid of child marriage ?? Isn’t that the best kind of agenda to have ????
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Thiruvathavoorar Lakshminarayan / April 3, 2017
I agree.
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ekelbroom / April 3, 2017
Shariah consists of :
– The laws dictated in the Qur’an.
– The laws revealed to Prophet Mohammed (pbuh).
– The laws that are taken from the lifestyle (Sunnah) of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).
Shariah laws are divine and are hence immutable.
The term Fiqh means “true understanding.”
Fiqh is making rulings and judgments from evidence found in the Shariah, that is, the Qur’an and Sunnah, and from the consensus of Islamic scholars.
Fiqh laws are therefore ‘man-made’ and ‘contextual’ and are hence NOT immutable
There are three significant differences between Shariah and Fiqh laws :
Shariah cannot be changed. But Fiqh can change based on new information
Shariah is broad and general. Fiqh focuses on narrow and specific issues.
Shariah comes from the Quran and Sunnah. Fiqh comes from the Shariah.
Amending the MMDL does NOT require tampering with the Sharia laws.
It only requires making changes to the ‘man-made’ Fiqh laws to ensure that such laws reflect more accurately and fairly the prevailing social & cultural dimensions that govern the lives of the Ummah. This in turn will ensure that all members of the Ummah (regardless of gender) will continue to reap the full benefits of the divine Sharia laws.
I am too shocked to even comment on the sentence in the above article that “The ACJU did not deny the contents of an alarming submission it made to several parliamentarians in which it defended thee right to marry girls BEFORE ATTAINING PUBERTY”, (My emphasis), if this statement is true.
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sarrij / April 15, 2017
ekelbroom.
Rubbish.Where do you get your information from?
Show me a book on SHARIA. Non existant. These are all man made ideas about 250 years after the death of the prophet.
Get real,man.
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Amarasiri / April 3, 2017
All Ceylon Jamiyathul Ulama(ACJU)
Common Sense and Intelligence,
(300 Words)
“Muslims listen to your Scholars,”
Yes, Scholars. Who are the Greatest Scholars?
The Ulama of ACJU are NOT Scholars. They are literalists, who even cannot correctly understand and interpret the Quran and Hadith. They appear as Idiots who wants to maintain their hegemony. It is about their hegemony. Just read what Al-kindi had to say in the 9th Century.
1. Abd’l-Walid Ibn Rushd, stands out as a towering figure the history of Arab-Islamic thought, well as Est-European philosophy and theology. He also pointed out the many errors of Hamid Al-Ghazali, another towering figure, in his Incoherence of the Incoherence.
2. Hamid Al-Ghazali, another towering figure, in his Incoherence of the Philosophers, with 17 Errots out of his 20 points, pointed out by Abd’l-Walid Ibn Rushd
3. Avicenna or Ibn Sīnā (Arabic: c. 980 – June 1037) was a Persian polymath who is regarded as one of the most significant thinkers and writers of the Islamic Golden Age.
Besides philosophy and medicine, Avicenna’s corpus includes writings on astronomy, alchemy, geography and geology, psychology, Islamic theology, logic, mathematics, physics and poetry.
4.Al-Farabi (/ˌælfəˈrɑːbi/; Arabic: Abū Naṣr Muḥammad ibn Muḥammad Al Fārābī;, known in the West as Alpharabius (c. 872 – 951), was a renowned philosopher and jurist who wrote in the fields of political philosophy, metaphysics, ethics and logic. He was also a scientist, cosmologist, mathematician and music scholar.
5. Abu Yūsuf Yaʻqūb ibn ʼIsḥāq aṣ-Ṣabbāḥ al-Kindī ( 801–873 AD), known as “the Philosopher of the Arabs”, was a Muslim Arab philosopher, polymath, mathematician, physician and musician. Al-Kindi was the first of the Muslim peripatetic philosophers, and is unanimously hailed as the “father of Islamic or Arabic philosophy” for his synthesis, adaptation and promotion of Greek and Hellenistic philosophy in the Muslim world.
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Adrian / April 3, 2017
If justice is not done, next best thing is to oust the President and General Secretary of ACJU and amend the MMDA to the satisfaction of the Muslim community.
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Noor Nizam / April 3, 2017
This fellow acts like a CHAMELEON in the bush which changes colours to suit the environment for self protection. Religious matters cannot be tampered by “MAN”, it is DIVINE. This guy has STILL NOT ANSWERED THE QUESTION REGARDING THE ISSUE/ACCEPTANCE OF A BLOCK OF STATE LAND WHICH MAHINDA RAJAPAKSA GAVE HIM/ACJU IN COLOMBO 12 VALUED AT MILLIONS OF RUPEES DURING THE MAHINDA REGIME (http://www.asiantribune.com/node/6395 raised by “The Muslim Voice” in many web forums and Social Media. Rizvi Mufthi has also FAILED to answer questions about the large amounts of funds he and the ACJU had received from various sources to support Mahinda Rajapaksa at the UNHRC in 2012. Rizvi Mufthi’s life style is contradictory to the principles of Islam and misleads the humble Muslim community in Sri Lanka for his political benefits.
Noor Nizam – Convener “The Muslim Voice”.
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Amarasiri / April 3, 2017
Noor Nizam
“This fellow acts like a CHAMELEON in the bush which changes colours to suit the environment for self protection. Religious matters cannot be tampered by “MAN”, it is DIVINE.”
All Ceylon Jamatul Ulama (ACJU) got a NEW Revelation Abrogating the OLD Revelation, from Angel Gabriel, Gibraeel.
So he is just following the Instructions, Revelations, Literally.
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Mallaiyuran / April 3, 2017
In addition, Prophet Muhammed (May Peace and blessings be on him) has said :
“Make things easy and do not make them difficult, cheer the people up by conveying glad tidings to them and do not repulse (them).”
Where was that until now? They didn’t read that all these time but had became Ulamas?
Prophet concocted things easy for what? Prophet concocted things easy for whose benefit(to the tongue twisters?)
What kind of religion is that?
Until Don Stephen invented a way to deport Tamils, Prophet had left it hard under the British Goverment. In 1951 only with the partnership of Prophet Don Stephen, he made easy the job turning upside down. These crook might have been paid by Chinese Yuan by Muslim-Sinhala Yahapalanaya not to give it too hard time and get caught under the weight of EU.
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Salma Junaideen / April 3, 2017
“ACJU as a responsible institution has to look into various aspects, inter alia
(1) matters of relevance to the religious teachings;
(2) finding solutions to the grievances of the women;
(3) ensuring the acceptance and acknowledgement of the larger Muslim community;
(4) establishing justice to each and everyone to the best possible extent.”
ACJU thinks they are higher than the state. Finding solutions to the grievances of women is the responsibility of the state and not the duty of the ACJU. Rizwie Mufthi- Please don’t usurp the power of the state. Grievances of the women must be addressed by the State and not by you all.
ACJU doesn’t have the acceptances of the Muslim community and establishing justice is not your responsibility. This is not a theocratic state. It is a democratically elected government. This govt will look into matters of justice.
Just because you have the pulpit, you all are able to threaten the Parliamentarians to abide by your demands. Parliamentarians are blackmailed into submissions. They are scared of you, because you can shout from the pulpit that the MPs are irreligious and they are following the Shaitan etc.
Rizwie Mufthi is in his seat for a very long period and he is heading the Thabliq movement. I understand that Thabliq is controlling the ACJU. High time that we find an alternative to ACJU
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Amarasiri / April 4, 2017
Salma Junaideen
“ACJU thinks they are higher than the state. Finding solutions to the grievances of women is the responsibility of the state and not the duty of the ACJU. Rizwie Mufthi- Please don’t usurp the power of the state. Grievances of the women must be addressed by the State and not by you all.”
Yes. The Ulama want to be like Popes. Infallible. Read what Al-Kindi said in the 9th century.
Let the Ulama should from the mosques on Fridays, at men, and get the men to sign anything without reading the contents, and even on behalf of all women in the household, but this is fraud, just like their self-appointment.
Take the marriage registration out of Ulama hands, and give it to the Govt. registrar. after all births and deaths are done by the Govt., not by the Ulama.
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Salma Junaideen / April 3, 2017
ACJU is in the process of obtaining signatures at the at Jumma time in the Mosques in a very unethical manner. They have not explained to the signatories about the details of the MMDA reforms that were proposed. I understand that in the Colpetty mosque, signature campaign was done upstairs, while the sermons were going on.
In the Kiruloppane mosque men were asked to add women’s names and this is what is called ‘ACJU JUSTICE TO WOMEN’
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Amarasiri / April 3, 2017
Salma Junaideen
“ACJU doesn’t have the acceptances of the Muslim community and establishing justice is not your responsibility. This is not a theocratic state. It is a democratically elected government. This govt will look into matters of justice.”
Please refer to Amarasirl’s comments, especially as to what Ibn Rushd, aka Averroes, and Al-Kindi had to say about the Theologians,the Ulama.
Do you have a group that is getting their act together, to present your case?
Amarasiri will contribute Rs.10,000 of his hard-earned money to such as effort. This is a human rights and human development issue. Right now it is an Ulama rights and Ulama development program. You needs flyer with information printed on both sides, in English, Tamil and Sinhala with factual information, and please refer to Ibn Rushd’s and Al-Kinds conclusions and finding on the Theologians.
Also ask the question why the the Muslims have been backward over the past 900 years?
Also ask why ACJU Ulama keep getting NEW Revelations.
Stupidest Muslim Vs Neil Tyson – How ideology can ruin intellectual power
Published on Nov 10, 2014
This is not a debate between some Muslim and Neil Tyson. But this video shows the thinking of some very well educated 21’st century Muslim (I don’t know he is ignorant, stupid or dishonest. But he is one for sure) and Neil Tyson speaking in a lecture about how Muslims intellectual power ruined by an ideology.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyCxrL9-C84
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sach / April 4, 2017
you can write about this more and reveal it.
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Fathima / April 3, 2017
We expected you stand by your initial words, or leave the body, ACJU.
As a leader representing ACJU for 17 years, should have foreseen the pressure that could mount due to your reckless words than being surrendered.
This only hints that during this 17 years, how many wrong decisions you might have taken that were not challenged ultimately negatively impacted the community you represent?
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Shiranthi / April 3, 2017
It took this long for these old men to admit the MMDA needs reform? What is the reluctance to step up, and do something about it? Are they admitting to it because of pressure from outside? This is where the moderates step in and push for those reforms that will safeguard Muslim girls, and protect the women. It is time the moderate Muslim united and made a big push for this. Later on will be too late.
This is a very important and urgent matter.
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K.Pillai / April 3, 2017
From the furore following the “MMDA is perfect” Rizwi comment, the Lankan MPs have advised ACJU to tone its stand. ACJU downgraded “perfect” to “near perfect”. The insult cast on non-Muslims (specially females) still is there!
The recent CT article “Child Brides & Female Genital Damage” By Christopher Rezel has had no effect. The MPs support pedophilia.
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K.Pillai / April 3, 2017
From the furore following the “MMDA is perfect” Rizwi comment, the Lankan MPs have advised ACJU to tone its stand. ACJU downgraded “perfect” to “near perfect”. The insult cast on non-Muslims (specially females) still is there!
The recent CT article “Child Brides & Female Genital Damage” By Christopher Rezel has had no effect. The MPs support pedophilia.
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Mohamed / April 3, 2017
Ok, now he agrees to the changes. Good guy, he learned the need of the community, and we’re all happy – Does it end there?
I guess it is high time that Muslim community should demand he is removed from the post. Call him Islamic theologian, Islamic scholar, Moulavi or whatever best describes him; his initial words should have come from his subject expertise.
If he has changed his stance now (not even a month), either he did not utter those words with deep research and understanding of the subject OR, he is now just interested in safeguarding his title giving it to pressure. There is typical politician in him
Either case his fit for the job is questionable.
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jimsofty / April 4, 2017
Read Below. ACJU wants to live in ther primitive society that existed 50, 000 years before. Modern humans living in the barberian – ages.
The ACJU did not deny the contents of an alarming submission it made to several parliamentarians in which it defended thee right to marry girls before attaining puberty.
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AJ / April 4, 2017
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Rajash / April 4, 2017
“Muslim Marriage and Divorce Act “
Muslim Marriage Act – Legalise child bride and marriage as soon as the girl attains puppetry at the age of 13!
Muslim Divorce Act – legalise divorce of the 13 year olds kids who just got married!
what the heck?
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R.Mohhamed / April 4, 2017
The Feudal and Barbarian laws of Marriages and Divorce is not that suited to 21st Century of Islam.
You have turn into modern Marriage and Divorce law any country has to be whole country law or they have be part of that country.
Why Muslims having only religion base law in Sri lanka? Or other non-Muslim countries?
We are do not want and supposed be having separate law for Muslim?
Are they Super -Human being ?
Islam has to be globalization that like other laws and norms of Global villages ?
Faith and values of Muslim culture has to respect, but they enough room for the to be maneuvering by consent of Islam majority follows ?
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Fathima / April 4, 2017
R.Mohhamed,
“Why Muslims having only religion base law in Sri lanka? Or other non-Muslim countries?”
Why only Kandyan Sinhalese may choose to be governed by the general law or Kandyan law in a country that belong to all Sinhalese, Tamils and Muslims?
Why Udarata people are ‘Super Human’ among Sinhalese? Just because Down-south Sinhalese are not as classy as they are?
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Sea.. / April 4, 2017
You maychoose a mMuslim name as ur handlebut when u refer to MMuslims as THEY ur sarong comes down n expose ur as a non Muslims..more in ur comment suggest ur nnota Muslim…either choose a neutral handle or be SMART….
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villageman / April 4, 2017
In UK and USA the minimum age for marriage is as low as 14. Why does it has to be 18 in our part of the world? In any case, marriage is a failing system just like religions. Both will vanish in few centuries.
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Sea.. / April 4, 2017
And the womenin USA got voting rights pretty recently….until then WOMEN WERE SUPPRESSED and considered 2nd class citizens…
Read about Islamand the prominence given to females….once when the Prophet was asked..who of the 2 is to be respected more…father or mother…. He dsaidmother…mother…mother…thrice sandthen father….so IF mom n dad ran a race…mom gets Gold Silver and Bronze medals….father….also ran…..such is the respect given yo females…n the prophet said…Paradise lies at tthefeet of you mmother’s….research about the security a woman has in Islam…
http://www.islamicity.com
http://www.islamonline.com/English
http://www.themodernreligion.com
Readwith open minds n not be prejudiced..
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Fathima / April 4, 2017
Very simple. UK and USA are GIVERS, and we are RECEIVER. All this issue started when GIVERS put a condition on us that we have to abide by. Or poor RECEIVER will lose GSP.
This is only a tip of the iceberg. The GIVERS will not stop there, as long as we’re RECEIVERS.
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jimsofty / April 4, 2017
Fathima the stupid Tamil. go there and don’t stay in Sinhale.
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Fathima / April 4, 2017
Jim Softy,
Call me ‘stupid’ and tell me the reason why you felt so. Is there anything wrong in what I have said? That is the truth you accept it or not.
Or did you mean to hint that staying in SL is going to be I am forever with a RECEIVER gang?
I can go, but on my way, I want to drop you in Bangladesh, agree? (Remember now it is a Muslim country)
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ekelbroom / April 4, 2017
After his pompous declaration, on behalf of the ACJU, that “the MMDL in it’s present form is perfect” created an unprecedented storm of protest against the Organization, Mufthi Rizwie and his cohorts sensing the possibility of being replaced by another rival group of Islamic Scholars, have begun backpedaling fast and furiously.
One wonders as to what thoughts are now soaring through the minds of those Muslims who agreed wholeheartedly with the Mufthi’s initial statement. They are left high and dry by the very Ulemas they blindly supported.
It was hilarious to read in the ACJU’s latest statement that the ‘ACJU as a responsible institution has to look into various aspects, inter alia : (2) finding solutions to the grievances of the women;’
Really !!
It appears that after nearly 100 years of existence, enlightenment has finally dawned on the ‘responsible’ ACJU over the last few days that Muslim Women too have their share of grievances that need to be addressed ?
Wow !! Allah SWT does indeed work in mysterious ways.
Based on their dismal performance record in this regard, does the ACJU actually think they are sufficiently competent to examine, identify and resolve the problems of Muslim Women ?
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R Mohammed / April 4, 2017
Reference to Fathima’s comment
Muslim and Islam are products of Feudal and pre-civilization religion.
It has gone to backward of history by discriminated Women are the half of Human population ?
No body can reached to haven by passed women of humankind .
I too advocated of Radial Islam.
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Fathima / April 4, 2017
R Mohammed,
Please rephrase what you wanted to say. I hate to reply on my own guessing.
Thanks
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jehan / April 4, 2017
There is only one Allah and Prophet Mohamed is the messenger of Allah.
Ulema cannot change devine law, because they want power and position.
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Mama Sinhalam / April 5, 2017
Any organisation accepting marriage of under-age girl children is promoting rape. They should be charged with aiding and abetting rape. Religious belief is no defence under the Penal Code.
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Zyir Hameed / April 5, 2017
As an ex-muslim all i can tell is these ulemas are racing back to the past ! in my opinion all religions are crap but Islam is a very harmful one at least in the present times !
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AYMAN / April 6, 2017
Zyr Hameed,
There are no ex Muslims !!
There are billions who follow a religion.
So you can say anything but keep your opinion to yourself.
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AYMAN / April 8, 2017
You are racing forward to the Hellfire !!!
At least the so called Ulemas are racing back to put it in your own words !!!
The Ulema know which is the better abode !!!
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AYMAN / April 6, 2017
All comment about the marriage of Prophet Muhammad, with a view to insulting him.
How about Mahatma GHANDHI who married Kasthurbai at 12.
He is called as MAHATMA ! MAHA. ATMAH !!!
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Ralli Ameen / April 14, 2017
Mahatma Ghandi was a very popular guy but nobody speaks about girl’s age when he got married. There are thousand and thousand of such marriage (non-Muslim) formal or informal all around the world including but Muslim haters knows only about Muslim issues here. Raising the marriageable age to 16 or 18 no problem but educated Muslims should take good decision on it.
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Fathima / April 6, 2017
Estimated number of children wed in America between 2000 and 2010 was nearly 248,000.
And Georgia has one of the highest rates of child marriages in Europe. It’s a tradition that goes back to centuries and isn’t confined to one region or religion.
While forcing a child to end her childhood with unbearable, unsuitable responsibility is absolute wrong, US & EU are also hypocrites
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Back to The Qur'an / April 15, 2017
Until Muslims hug to the hadees ,not question the Scholars and The Shia Muslims continue in their Schism of canonizing their priesthood and The Sunnis continue in their Schism of orthodox judaising and return to the original Source and embrace the true spirit of Islam which is by continuously progressively interpreting Islmam by using the one and only word of God which is a direct revelation and preserved in writing, rather than hear say passed on orally. Muslim will be stuck where they are and the hear say will continue to harm them as they continue to use them though with good intention, it will only divide them further and bring animosity among them ,when who is not programmed when he or she compare notes of Qur’an, hadees and other sources will clearly realise the truth how and why the Hadees were held until mist if the trustworthy Companions were either assisinated
Or diedn battles etc ,for it to be collected orrally and then be compiled, some of the most humiliating stories of lies and degrading of The Holy Prophet is mostly not taken from the Qur’an but rather from the he hadees to humiliate him by those who hate him. Either GI through all of the hadees with critical investigation & research and correct and reform and throw out what you find as fabrication, lues and mythology ,I Confirm in writing that all of them are correct and swear it in the Name of Allah & afterwards if the same us used against you ,you alone ate responsible for it.
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Back to The Qur'an / April 15, 2017
I strongly believe like the adopting of a lot Jewish Customs mostly from Talmud which were actually brought and incorporated by the sages who came out of Babylon the most currpted cities ever was in old times,from which came also the evil indulgence of blacknagicand the blaspheming of Solaman to justify the use of Socery.
Although some are adopted rituals were not currpted and are in fact beneficial, like the ritual of Abramic Slaughter of animal for food and the circumssion of males ate both 100% Abrahamic and Jewish,though may differ in phrase due to the languages.
But The underage marriage us not Islamic at all, it us Talmudic Judaism.I am hot going to provide any hone for for anyone (Sorry) everyone has free access to Google,so please do your own verification s it us full of it,you can even get a hard copy in English on line and do a double verification. The only argument some of The Traditionabist may bring up is this verse from Talmud he Qur’an which has been totally misunderstood and misquoted.chpt.65:verse04,it talks about girls who have not mensturated ,the proscribed period of waiting for divorce is little longer.it is no way suggesting that The Qur’an us referring to child wife here. Today thanks to medical advancement, we know there is a medical disorder where some girls do not menustrate or may menustrate suddenly much later, but medically the issue is considered only if the girl has reached age 16 and not yet menustrated, it us known as primary amenorrhea, you can check it up in the medical journals online.Qur’an strongly advices to marry them off only when they are matured enough,chapter 4: Verse 6, the word is Asuda .mature ,become ladies .marriageable. Please reform the entire law ,not just marriage ,you need to really ,really go deeply and mercilessly critical on the tradition .
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Back to The Qur'an / April 16, 2017
Correctios of error of auto PC correction.
Either go through all of the hadees
2) or confirmin writing that you Scholars declare all of the hadees of saheeya are perfect and divine and it can be removed or changed and make an oath in The Name of Allah swt ,that you swear his curse upon you if you have lied or knew the hadees hunilating the Holy Prophet is indeed a fabrication
It is time you take responsibility andwe ordinary Commons Muslim are no more willing to be persecuted because of your negligence and become aninstruntetal l
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Back to The Qur'an / April 16, 2017
Peaceful Muslims can not be allowed to become scapegoats due to fabricated stories used to spread hate & excuses to be persecuted.
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