In an alarming submission made to several parliamentarians and other conservative groups with regard to proposed amendments to the Muslim Marriage and Divorce Act (MMDA), the All Ceylon Jamiyathul Ulama (ACJU) has said that they agree with the Hadith “No people will ever prosper who appoint a woman in charge of their affairs” and therefore a woman isn’t worthy of being appointed a Qazi (judge).
Rizvi Mufthi
The ACJU is the main body of theologians of Muslims in Sri Lanka.
In a brief document dated March 2017 of which the Colombo Telegraph possesses a copy, the clerics have said that therefore they oppose the appointing of female judges (Qazis).
The Hadiths, which was compiled at least 230 years after the death of the Prophet quotes Muhammad the Prophet of Islam as making the statement, the veracity of which has been questioned throughout the Islamic intellectual tradition.
The submission also includes the fact of the marriage of the Prophet to Aisha, of which the contract of marriage was said to have taken place when she was 6 years of age.
It uses the story as a justification for the marriage of girls who have not attained puberty.
Again quoting a Hadith the document says “A father giving in marriage his daughter before attaining puberty is possible and this is the evidence that Abu Bakr (RA) gave Aisha (RA) on marriage to the Prophet (PBUH) when she was 6”.
However, the narration is also a construct of later day scholars although documented in Bukhari, one of the most voluminous of the compilers and considered to be a Sahih (truthful) Hadith.
There has been no other evidence to the effect that Aisha was in fact 6 and that the marriage was consummated when she was 9 except for Hadith, which according to academics was compilation though hearsay. Muhammad is said to have been 53 years at the time.
The ACJU accordingly has made a sweeping conclusion saying they are against any female judge sitting in as a Qazi and that her edicts will be not binding as per the Sharia and will therefore be null and void. Instead the ACJU has sought to confine the female in a consultative capacity.
Adding insult to injury, the ACJU has justified its view using the same justification of Saudi Arabia- saying “It is to protect the rights, honour and modesty of women”.
The head cleric of the ACJU Mufthi Rizwe was yesterday on record saying that the MMDA is “perfect in the present state”.
Several organizations including Muslim led civil society groups and the media have highlighted and documented many issues of rural Muslim women suffering as a result of the MMDA, including many instances of child marriage.
Click here to read the full submission
Mohamed / March 22, 2017
Is Rizwi Mufti the right guy to head ACJU? And is ACJU the right body to represent Muslims of Sri Lanka?
No wonder why Muslims can’t still figure out a solution to messy footwear seeking queues after Jumma prayers since decades..LOL
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Ben Hurling / March 22, 2017
Given the utter primitiveness on naked display on his statement, Rizwi Mufti is not even fit to represent himself. Let alone Muslims of Sri Lanka.
Please appoint his Mom, a woman BTW to be that guy’s sole guardian.
Cheers!
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fazli Falal / March 22, 2017
Ben, this bugger has three wives, two in Sri Lanka and one in South India. In addition, he is a sex manic and he doesn’t do it with boys. So, it looks like women will continue to be under him until one of the three will catch him by his three. May Allah forgive thsi Bas… d for his insults of his own mother
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Banda / March 22, 2017
Falal, Why should Allah punish Mufthi marrying three wives when the almighty has approved his ‘last prophet’ screwing so many whores and marrying many wives including his son-in-law’s wife.
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Mediator / March 23, 2017
Banda,
Can we come to below settlement?
Mohammad, Buddha and Christ all had swords. Mohammad over used it, and Buddha never used it and discouraged followers also to do the same with below words:
“If one, longing for sexual pleasure, achieves it, yes, he’s enraptured at heart. The mortal gets what he wants. But if for that person — longing, desiring — the pleasures diminish, he’s shattered, as if shot with an arrow”
Mohammed did the mistake to encourage followers to over use the sword, and Buddha did the mistake in opposite. As results, we have Muslim guys marrying too many, and monks & Buddhists having illicit sexual relations and intercourses and using pansal-going kids also to satisfy themselves.
We can blame the guys or monks
Agree?
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Banda / March 23, 2017
Siddhartha (prior to being Buddha) a prince was married and had a son but never a pervert like Muhammad Nabi. Muhammad also waged many a war and set an example for his followers. After reaching Buddhahood, motto of Buddha’s teaching has being loving kindness and compassion. Buddha never even touched a sword. So, I honestly do not know what you mean when you say; “[they] all had swords”. Both being religious founders, one could compare the character of Muhammad and Buddha but not with an odd monk who commit crime or engage in unacceptable behavior. In my opinion these two ‘religions’ have nothing in common and are miles apart.
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MuslimMan / March 23, 2017
Bandooo,
Were you good at holding lamps for others? Can you call meeee?
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Subra / March 25, 2017
Did you forget Aiesha who was just 6 when he married her?
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Real Siva Sankaran Sarma / March 23, 2017
Therefore his Sri Lankan progeny will be Tamil hating Arab loving Moors( sic) and his Children in South India will be Tamils who are Muslims proud of their actual Tamil/Dravidian heritage.
What a joke. This is the story of 95% of the so called Sri Lankan Moors(sic) they are Tamil speaking but ironically Tamil hating Arabs/Moors but their close relatives in South India are all proud Tamils who are Muslim by religion
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ex Muslims / March 22, 2017
Risvi mufthy is sitting in that position for the last 21 years by bribing the ACJU membership throwing little crumbs of the millions he collects. The government should send the FCID to investigate his wealth which he has amassed as an ordinary preacher. He goes around in a super luxury vehicle and has many properties in Colombo. He had the grandest wedding ever for his daughter with 3500 guests. How did he pay for all these. Did Allah drop it on his lap because he was such a holy (shit) Man
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real muslim / March 22, 2017
Ex Muslim, how come you are ex Muslim. Are you an axed muslim. Did you manage to splice your quarter? You sound like a real ass..le
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Faleela / March 25, 2017
He is wearing a rolex watch. He had a grad wedding for his son. Where did the money come from
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ZEEREEZ / March 22, 2017
This Person Rizwie in ruining the Sri Lankan Muslims and the Co existence of Sri Lankans as well.
He is clinging onto this position as the President of ACJU for last 17 years and seems does not want to depart from his self ,made empire
he has ruined the Sri Lankan Muslim Culture by bringing in the Arab culture and growing the Thableegh movement which is a sore eye for the community
He is responsible for Making the announcement that the Niqab (Face cover ) obligatory for women from the pulpit of Kollupitiya Mosque on 23rd Sept, 2016 by a Jumma sermon where as even the Kuran does not make it obligatory as its a choice.
Such shortsighted statements by respected Body of Ulema’s makes matter worse and confuse the layman..
Government should look deep into these developments as the entire Muslim Community is put in a spotlight by these radical thinking religious leaders.
Attention should be made to all Foreign / local funds that flows into Madarassa’s which ACJU or any other organisation has no clue, extremist teaching is done here at tender age. they are cut off from the rest of the society and Madarasa’s are mushrooming in many parts of the Island with absolutely no control and no proper curriculum
Girls as young as 12 years are forced to cover their faces and Boys are encouraged to dress the Thaliban like kit by these Madarasa’s, statistics are alarming on the numbers of youth involved.
the future Muslin youth will be highly a extremist section if there is no proper regulation and the trend continues like this with lose mechanism in place.
Islam is a religion of Peace and its a beautiful religion , we need to protect this beautiful religion from these radicalized extremist groups who do not look at the moderate views and go to extremes.
The Kuran verse from Surah Baqarah Vers 143 clearly speaks about , how people are created and segregated to nations / tribes and a justly balanced nations and Kuran teaches how we should co exist in multi ethnic environment, we need to bring the true spirit of Islam and drive away all the extremist / radical groups with proper regulations in place.
Surah Al Baqarah V 143 in a nut shell reveals as follows : We have made you a Moderate Ummah (nation) and the explanation goes on, this shows the Importance Islam has given for mankind to live in harmony with different tribes / nations.
Our Beloved Prophet (pbuh) is a great example for love and compassionate, its indeed Sad how the present day Ulema’s are twisting words from the Kuran and Sunnah and ruining the true spirit of this beautiful religion.
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banda / March 22, 2017
“Islam is a religion of Peace and its a beautiful religion….” Most of the Koran verses are devoted to elevate Muslims and impugning non-Muslims. Among other things, Koran says non-Muslims are diseased (2:10), perverse (2:99), stupid (2:171) and deceitful (3:73). Is that your peace, man.
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Subra / March 25, 2017
The problem here is not Rizvi. The poor man just says what is in Islam. Stop shooting the messenger.
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Amarasiri / March 22, 2017
Rizvi Mufthi,
RE: Sri Lankan Muslim Clerics Say Women Are Not Equal To Men, Defend Marriage Before Puberty
“In an alarming submission made to several parliamentarians and other conservative groups with regard to proposed amendments to the Muslim Marriage and Divorce Act (MMDA), the All Ceylon Jamiyathul Ulama (ACJU) has said that they agree with the Hadith “No people will ever prosper who appoint a woman in charge of their affairs” and therefore a woman isn’t worthy of being appointed a Qazi (judge).”
Is hegemony so important and critical for you, so that stupidity has become a virtue for you?
According to Ibn Rushd, the 12th century Islamic Scholar, Qazi(Judge), Polymath and Philosopher, also known as Averroes, the Theologian like you are parrots, and translate the Quran and Hadith, literally, without treating as sources of knowledge. He said that only the philosophers can properly interpret the Quran and Hadith.
As such, you and your fellow All Ceylon Jamiyathul Ulama (ACJU) members are not qualified to interpret the Quran and Hadith. You are trying to maintain your ignorance and hegemony.
So believe in the Hadith’s . Just read up on the Hadith of Najad, where prophet Mohamed presciently predicted the Satan, Iblis following Wahhabies, Salafies, ISIS and their clones.
Hadith of Najd
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith_of_Najd
According to Hadith, the Sun goes around the Earth, under the Earth, the flat Earth.
The Earth is spread out like a carpet, and the Sun sets in a dark pool of water…
How many chromosomes do you have? 48? 46?
It is worth testing the chromosomes, and especially Chromosome #2.
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fazly Sameem / March 22, 2017
Iam a Muslim and this SOB does not represent me.
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Subra / March 25, 2017
I’m a human and Islam does not represent Humanity, in any way.
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Fathima Fukushima / March 25, 2017
Muslims must follow the teachings of Islam. Looks like some people have lost sight of Islamic teachings here and condemn those by targeting the ACJU. How could you?
Allah’s (peace be upon Him) curse will be upon Srilankan Muslims.
Respect the learned opinion of Rizvi, if not please quote from the Hadith where he has contradicted. If you cannot, please shut up without distorting Islam.
We are Muslim women and we need no crocodile tears and defenders. Allah (peace be upon Him) has laid down the principles for that. Follow Islam to the letter and everything will be just fine for Muslim women.
As Muslim women, we say, no thank you to all those who pretending Muslims that talk bad of ACJU.
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Native Vedda / March 22, 2017
Rizwi Mufti
This is what wise people called the Arabisation of the entire world through back door.
There is nothing more one could rationally add to the discussion when men claim to possess the divine right to publicly scrutinize and privately admire children’s private parts.
This has nothing to do with their primitive nature however this is an indication of too much irresponsible freedom the perverts enjoy and too little care for women and children.
Practicing or potential Pedophiles should be dealt with seriousness, put them in boot camps.
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bitter-truth / March 22, 2017
hat is off for your comment NV
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Leonard / March 22, 2017
Now don’t upset the Muslim community according to some western experts they very hard working peaceful and don’t believe in hard line doctoring’s of Islam. Hand full of radicals is giving a bad name to 99% of the people Religion of peace. Ah! Just a small issue regarding Apostasy may be punishable by death and so on so on.
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Marina / March 22, 2017
It is time the government appointed a more forward thinking group to consult, when deciding the rights of Muslim women, including educated women, who have been successful in their careers, and have experienced the discrimination from men, whose mind is still in the stone age. The ACJU should be dismantled and they should feel welcome to live in Afghanistan or Pakistan where the Taliban thrives. This is Sri Lanka, a multi-religious country, and Muslim women’s rights must be decided by educated, knowledgeable, Muslim men and women, who are open minded enough to consider the fact that Muslim women have suffered by the present laws, that do not give them opportunities, be totally dependent on their men folk, who may be oppressive and abusive, and if abused, the women must be entitled to financial support, to take care of children and herself if she decides to leave her husband. No decent man will want his daughter or sister, go through abuse, and be helpless, because she cannot leave this abusive relationship. The present laws are primitive, and needs to be changed urgently.
The members of this rather primitive group the ACJU has shown extremist thinking and obviously wants the women controlled and helpless. The marriageable age for all women, irrespective of religion, must be the same in this country. That is how the civilized world works.
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banda / March 22, 2017
Marina, Whether you like it or not Koran put men on charge of women. Does not Koran 2:223 say: “Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will.” Is not that says it all; Wives are to be sexually available to their husbands in all ways at all times. Younger the wife is bought easier to train her.
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බන්ඩා / March 22, 2017
I forgot; whether I agree with Rizvi Mufthi or not, he is no doubt in the right interpretation of the Koran. And Koran is the word of Allah
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Fahim / March 22, 2017
I am a muslim in Sri Lanka, and I tell you, these filthy dogs deserve to be crucified. They will never understand their faults. They should just be killed off. Dogs, worthless dogs.
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Patriot / March 22, 2017
Declare a fatwa and stone this baberic mufti in the public square.
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Ben Hurling / March 22, 2017
Patriot,
Given what this guy has said, such a punishment is tempting.
However, I would opt for a severe spanking of their primitive butts on Galle Face Green, in public. Line up Fazl as well along with Rizvi.
Spanking should be administered on these primitive men by Sri Lanka’s progressive, modern Muslim women. There are many such women in SL, Rizvi’s Clan is totally scared of. Many among my freinds as well. May God bless those talented Sri Lankan Msulim women.
Such a public spanking by educated Muslim women will teach both Rizvi and Fazl a lesson,
Cheers!
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Fahim / March 22, 2017
Spanking? Brother, hang them.
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Native Vedda / March 22, 2017
Ben Hurling
“Spanking should be administered on these primitive men by Sri Lanka’s progressive, modern Muslim women.”
What if the old perverts loved it and demanded more.
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J.muthu / March 23, 2017
Bro Vedda,
You tickling me man ..good laugh man…
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Uthungan / March 22, 2017
Well said Ben.
If we were to take the cue on this from Patriot there would be no difference between us and Rizwi Mufti. Let the Lankan Muslim women deal with him.
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fahim jameel / March 22, 2017
I roger that
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Aslam Moahamed / March 22, 2017
I will throw the first stone as a true patriotic Muslim
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Naushad / March 22, 2017
I am here to say one thing to all those non Muslims,who are shedding crocodile tears for our girls and women’s, pls clean your backyards first,child rape by Monks,Fathers(Church) etc,then fathers and brothers sexually abusing young children(it’s daily news in Sri Lanka)everyone should understand that majority Muslims are guided and led by ACJU.(ACJU is the sole representative of Sri Lankan Muslims,and other NGO’s fed by western and anti-Muslim campaigners are null).
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Fathima / March 22, 2017
Naushad,
“ACJU is the sole representative of Sri Lankan Muslims”? My A$$
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Naushad / March 22, 2017
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Nizreen / March 22, 2017
Nashad u dumb ass. ACJU is not always right. Moreover MMDA was ok for people in olden days cos they were genuine and truly god fearing but with the current situation it is not a very good solution. Parents are using it to get rid off their burden of marrying their daughters off and grooms who marry these girls r purely doing to satisfy their sexual desires not in the path of Islam. I wouldn’t say all are doing it for this reason but most. Also we are not living in a Muslim country so we must respect the thoughts of our fellow non muslim brothers and sisters as well.
What u’ve commented is against Islam as u cannot blame a community or religion for the mistake of individuals belonging to that community or religion.
Individualistic people like u should first be punished with severe punishments.
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Naushad / March 22, 2017
It’s better,if you are name sake token Muslim.embrace suitable religion as to please the non-Muslims.there is no compulsion in religion as well as compromise.if u like it follow it,other-wise it’s your choice.but don’t bend while representing as Muslims.(The divine LAW’s can’t be changed as some one wished).Pls check the Tafseer of Al-Kafirun.لَكُمْ دِينُكُمْ وَلِيَ دِينِ
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Banda / March 22, 2017
I agree with you that Allah’s LAW cannot be changed. You’re wrong: there is compulsion in Islam. Sahih Bukhari (52:260) says: “…The Prophet said, ‘If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.’ “
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banda / March 22, 2017
Naushad, If a monk buggers a younger monk or a father rape his daughter and etc. police can and would promptly put the culprit behind bars and charge him for there is no verse in any Buddhist scripture that approve such antisocial acts. And everyone including you guys come to know such crimes. Whereas Muhammad Nabi had set a precedent to his followers like this man Rizvi and countless old men by marrying a SIX year old child. Good that at least some Muslims reject Nabi’s immoral act.
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Subra / March 25, 2017
The sole representative of Muslims proposes barbaric treatment of women. What does that say about Muslims?
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Zaid / March 22, 2017
The attached document does not have a header nor it has a signature to confirm that it is indeed from ACJU. A valuable media site like colombo telegraph acting in this type of stupidity is unbelievable…
There are many teams with vested interest deployed by those who have a grudge on ACJU and this too, makes feel, is part of their game.
In addition to All that Islam has given more priority to females than males as far as equality is concerned. Below are some quotes out of 100’s of Quran Verses and Hadees.
1. The Prophet Muhammad said, may Allah’s peace and blessings be upon him: Your Heaven lies under the feet of your mother (Ahmad, Nasai).39
2. A man came to the Prophet and said, ‘O Messenger of God! Who among the people is the most worthy of my good companionship? The Prophet said: Your mother. The man said, ‘Then who?’ The Prophet said: Then your mother. The man further asked, ‘Then who?’ The Prophet said: Then your mother. The man asked again, ‘Then who?’ The Prophet said: Then your father. (Bukhari, Muslim).
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Banda / March 22, 2017
What more proof for equality of men and women in Islam than Koran verse 4:11 on inheritance “The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females” Read 4:176 to learn how women are mathematically established as inferior to men.
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Isharath / March 23, 2017
Banda,
Whatever you talk, once Saudi offers you a good contract with high pay, you will be the 1st person to jump on to the flight to forget the smell of public buses and trains.
Then you will act as a good cat obeying all their rules and accepting how they discriminate you for earning. Perhaps, you will also fast during Ramadan with breaking your fasting with other Muslims (often seen scenes in the Middle-East with Sinhalese)
You also have a genetic guts that gets activated when your numbers are more, else you’re only a ‘Pusa Lee’
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Niluka / March 23, 2017
Banda has been brainwashed, maybe in Tel Aviv, instead of learning how to do agriculture in those barren lands, he has been processed to spew gibberish and anti Muslim propaganda. Note that he has nothing of substance to say, just the regurgitating of made up verses.
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Banda / March 23, 2017
All I tried to point out is that Islam put man not just a degree but far above women. And no learned Muslim would deny it.
Now about a job for me in Saudi: Though I was offered a job in Saudi a long time back when I completed my research in the UK, my wife objected it for obvious reasons. And that’s the end of it.
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Native Vedda / March 23, 2017
Banda
” I was offered a job in Saudi a long time back when I completed my research in the UK, my wife objected it for obvious reasons. And that’s the end of it.”
And instead of you, she took a menial job and went to the medieval middle east kingdom to eke out a living while you stayed back and live off her income. Enjoy your good life.
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ekelbroom / March 22, 2017
Gender equality is alluded to in the Quran in one or more of the following verses, 3:195, 4:124, 16:97, 33:35, 40:40 and 49:13. For instance, verse 3:195 very clearly and unambiguously states “I do not allow the labour of any worker from among you, male or female, to go to waste. You are equal to one another”
The ACJU has chosen to quote a specific hadith [Bukhari 4425] which states ‘When Allah’s Apostle was informed that the Persians had crowned the daughter of Khosrau as their ruler, he said, “Such people as ruled by a lady will never be successful” ‘ to justify their rejection of the proposal to appoint female Quazis.
So we have a situation where the decision of the ACJU could be perceived as resulting in the words of Allah SWT in the Holy Quran being abrogated by the words of the Holy Prophet (SAL).
Can the highly qualified Scholars of the ACJU please enlighten us humble members of the Ummah as to how we should resolve this contentious issue ?
Does this also mean that the day will never dawn when we will witness the admittance of Sri Lanka’s first Alima (female Islamic Scholar) to the hallowed ranks of the ACJU ?
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Rodny / March 22, 2017
For them there is nothing else,but religion……
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Adrian / March 22, 2017
“Adding insult to injury, the ACJU has justified its view using the same justification of Saudi Arabia- saying ” It is to protect the rights, honour and modesty of women”.
The head cleric of the ACJU Rizwi Mufti was yesterday on record saying that the MMDA is “perfect in the present state”.
Religious teachings cannot be accepted as law. Just because somebody married 6 year old girl while he was above 50, that cannot become law. In Nigeria four wives virtually raped the husband to death There is more sense in common sense than some crazy things what religions teach. If RM does not have common sense, then how can he declare his stupid judgments as law? just because beliefs were used to train the minds of uneducated of ancient period?
Saudi Arabia does not use common sense. They don’t know the meaning of women’s’ rights. There are many other ways to keep the honor of women rather than stoning them to death.
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Adrian / March 22, 2017
Further, let women be the judges for themselves. Men need not judge women.
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Mohamed / March 22, 2017
In Sri Lanka over 99.99999% of so called Islamic Preachers in Sri Lanka never studied how terms such as Islam, Muslim, Mumin, Kafir and Mushriq in Quran does not contradict with Higher objectives of the same Quran such as Justice, Freedom, Dignity. So this kind of cultural backwardness comes out in the name of Islam by these preachers is obvious. Shame on us.
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Ansar / March 22, 2017
I really do not know what facilitated this controversy. How many of Muslim men in Sri Lanka have married under aged girls and mis used this option, if at all, allowed in Islam ? I cannot recall any. No one does it.
This was a non issue, blown out of proportion and become a national issue for no reason.
With regard to women to be judges in Quazi court, we cannot allow the so called educated men and women to mess with the dictates of the Creator. If it said by Him, so be it. If we put our two cents in it, it would become another man made revelation.
For Example, Creator says in the Quran, if you give Zakath (Charity) your wealth will multiply and if you take interest, your wealth will deplete. Mathematically, it does not add up.
Such will be the status, if we hand over the reigns of a Noble Religion in the hands of so called Educated Men and Women. I rest my case and no further responses in this regard.
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Fathima / March 22, 2017
I’m sorry. Is this a non issue? That there is a provision for such young girls to be married off under the law is a non issue? You must really have your head stuck in the mud if you think that no-one marries off their 12-13 year old daughter in this country, because it definitely happens!!! So what say you, turn a blind eye because you purposely refuse to accept that this is happening? Let those poor children suffer? Because this is a non-issue? Hahahahaha. So funny. Please don’t confuse divine decree with what people interpret. Best if you go out and actually study to find out the truth and realize what is best.
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Abdullah / March 22, 2017
“I really do not know what facilitated this controversy. How many of Muslim men in Sri Lanka have married under aged girls and mis used this option, if at all, allowed in Islam ? I cannot recall any. No one does it.”
Maybe this is not happening in your area so you are not aware of it, but it’s happening a lot in North and East.
“This was a non issue, blown out of proportion and become a national issue for no reason.”
Not really… this was a real issue facing many unfortunate women who have been at the receiving end for many years. They didn’t receive justice within the religious circle (corrupt Qazis and ignorant chauvinistic Islamic scholars) so they unfortunately sought solace from human rights activists.
We should have solved this problem within ourselves. We, the Muslim community, are collectively responsible for letting this problem get out of hand by ignoring the plight of these poor souls. They don’t want their children to face the same, what’s unfair in that?
It was never a question of God’s law, it was always about the failure to implement the attempted translation of that law, withing a legal framework, in the form of the MMDA, in fair manner. That’s all that was needed, but we did nothing to help them for all these years and now it’s gone from out of our hands and become a question of human rights first before God’s law.
I’m a Muslim myself and i accept and follow the sharia without question. To say that the MMDA doesn’t need to be amended is the most ignorant and idiotic statement one could make, if such a thing was actually said… Then the least you could do is provide a solution to the problem!!!
Nobody is asking to change God’s law, the MMDA is a gift granted to the Muslim community by the constitution of Sri Lanka! Amending the MMDA is not akin to changing Quran or hadith! If we had solved the problem we would not need to be changing anything in the first place! So because of our own folly we should at least consider a compromise rather than risk losing this gift altogether!
If the article above it true, then our scholars are really need to fire their speech writers… Learn some tact and diplomacy…
Also please note that the wording of the CT article is very biased, shame on you CT.
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Abdullah / March 22, 2017
Please note that after writing my reply earlier i took the time to read the proposed amendments and the AJCU comments on the proposals.
There is really no way to verify the authenticity of the whole thing, but even so it’s really not as bad as CT is making it out to be… CT’s article is extremely biased, twisting words, and intentionally taking things out of context just to make the ACJU look evil.
Even the heading is false! “Sri Lankan Muslim Clerics Say Women Are Not Equal To Men” They never said that! CT is putting words in their mouth. Even if they had said something like that it would not have meant that women are inferior to men, only that they are different, but CT writes it to make it look like we keep our women down…
SHAME ON CT!!!
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Banda / March 23, 2017
Abdullah, It is obvious that Islam teaches a woman is worth less than a man. Only debate is; what degree. Regardless what CT says, Koran 2:228 clearly says; “and the men are a degree above them [women]” Do you want more proof?
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SinhalaPropaganda / March 22, 2017
Islamic Jihadist states like Pakistan, Iran and Saudi Arabia defended the Sinhala regime at the UN and provided arms to fight the secular Tamils. The Sinhala nation should show gratitude by funding madrasas to be opened all over the island and spread Wahhabism. After all, they all have the preference for theocratic state in common. I read somewhere Sinhala extremist Cyril Mathew wanted a ‘Buddhist Jihad’ against Tamils. Monks in this island are no more than clean-shaven Taliban and well known for their preference for children which the Sinhala society allows. Buddhism fundamentalism and and Islamic fundamentalism go hand in hand.
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Sithy Hussein / March 22, 2017
Rizwi Mufti has been the bane of the Muslim community for too long. He and the ACJU brought disrepute to the Muslim community with the Halal fiasco. Now he arbitrarily dismisses a reform process that started more than 50 years ago with eminent educated experts in the respective commissions.
That the muslims of Sri Lanka has allowed this individual to speak in their name is symptomatic of the malaise that grips all Muslim societies all over the world. That even a self-appointed ‘religious’ ‘leader’ can hold them to ransom.
It’s time muslims reclaimed their God-given rights and live by the ideals of Truth, Justice & Equality above all else. Apathy & Silence is complicity.
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Ahamed / March 22, 2017
I was surprised to see that there are so many non-Muslims friends provide the own judgement on this issue. even so many educated ones…. let me ask below questions put forward below points…
1) every religion has its own philosophy…Either non-Muslims are do not understand it or do not agree to it or mostly do not even worried to understand it …
This is a matter of one religion.. and your are trying to provide judgement with out understanding the underlying philosophy…
2) what is the effect this subject has on your own life ….how dame you all can provide your own judgement on a matter which do not have any effect on you all…. do not you all have any other work??
3) for those who say there there need to be one law needed in the country….
first of all understand what is a law…. why a law is needed …. then you will never say this ….
for your information …islamic law is made my god ..not my human … do not you see the effectiveness of man made law in sri lanka….specially in parliament….
so please mind your own business with out making trouble ….
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Mrhy / March 22, 2017
You talk about law and judgement.
Show me one verse in the Quran that says we need to get this “law” and “judgement” from a man.
In fact, all the verses address individuals directly saying things like “Oh ye who believe” or “Oh people of faith”. It doesn’t say “Oh ye who went to an Islamic university and became a mufti”. Being a mufti doesn’t mean you have faith. There are plenty of deviant and corrupt lebbes/muftis/etc.
According to the Quran, man was made solely to worship Allah (SWT) so it’s our duty to read the Quran ourselves and understand. We are not supposed to follow someone blindly just because our parents followed him. If you do that, then on the last day, when you are asked why you did something and you say “Mufti X told me it was ok to do that”, then you better hope Mufti X is next to you to help you out because that is not an excuse.
Read the Quran first. It has everything you could possibly need and more.
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Ahamed / March 22, 2017
i do not know are u muslim or not …but there are so many evidence of judicial system …if you are muslim please search history and Quran …(Surah Baqarah 282 is a example) ….
here i m not talking about the Mufti or any other organization… this is clear plot to tarnish the image of Islam and this attach the well established Islamic ruling system …
at this point i would like to bring a point…. Allah him self say that …he is the best of plotters ….. if any one wants evidence …go and study what happen after 9/11 in US….
this is problem of Muslims and should only be handled by Muslims …..
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Mrhy / March 23, 2017
If you look at how that verse begins, it’s addressing you directly. That’s the context. You don’t need a judicial system (currently we are supposed to follow shariah – look up the history of shariah during the Ottoman empire and you can see how flawed that system is) and people of authority (who are made so just because of seniority) telling you what is right and wrong when you have the Quran.
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Abdullah / March 22, 2017
errr… okay… then you want all Muslims to spend their entire lives studying Quran and hadith? cause that’s what it’s gonna take.
Or are you one of those modern liberal types who things that just reading a few English translations is more than enough?
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Mrhy / March 23, 2017
So, then are you saying Allah has given us an impossible task? You are aware that the Quran asks us to study and learn it, right? That is said in more than one place. And who says you have to study the hadith?
See:
1. It has not neglected anything (6:38)
2. It has explained every kind of example (18:54)
3. It has explained everything clearly (16:89)
4. It has explained everything in detail (41:3)
5. Its verses are perfected and expounded (11:1)
6. He who has revealed to you the Book explained in detail (6:114)
7. A confirmation of what was before it and a detailed explanation of all things and guidance and mercy for a people who believe (12:111)
8. And when Our verses are recited to them as clear evidences (10:15)
9. Alif, Lam, Ra. These are the verses of the clear Book (12:1)
According to that, you only need the Quran.
Haha I love your snarky comment. I can actually read and understand some Arabic too and I have been self-studying for more than 10 years now.
I’m not saying I know everything but I can definitely say that what I know, I have read with my own eyes and I don’t rely on someone elses interpretation.
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Ahmed L. / March 22, 2017
Why can’t state understand that it is NOT a ‘Muslim issue’ but rather human rights and child rights issue.
We as a nation should adhere to global benchmark. So, ACJU’s decision is immaterial here. Govt should interfere and act responsibly.
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Ahamed / March 22, 2017
what is so called “human rights” brother ???? can u defined it …. do not dance to the tune of the western world ….
even west is linking ending of 30 years war in sri lanka with “human rights” now… and see the damage those so called western world has done to some countries and to the world as whole …. please use u r brain and do not dance to the tune of the world ….
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Ahmed L. / March 23, 2017
Ask yourself, why does the Govt let Muslim community come up with a solution, let alone Western propaganda?
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Maghribi / March 22, 2017
O ye who believe! If an evil-liver bring you tidings, verify it, lest ye smite some folk in ignorance and afterward repent of what ye did. (The Noble Quran 49:6)
When people hate you or generally don’t like you, they will resort to one of the worst sins mentioned in the Qur’an and Sunnah: Backbiting and Slander.
And why is this the case? Why is gossiping and lying their main weapon of resort?
It is because there are so many people that are willing to listen to it without a care in the world for what is actually right and what is actually wrong. So the next time you become angered at your enemies for spreading mischief, take a second to remind yourself: Who is more to blame? One person’s tongue, or many people’s ears?
And those who malign believing men and believing women undeservedly, they bear the guilt of slander and manifest sin. (The Noble Quran 33:58)
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Mrhy / March 22, 2017
And what happens to the people who ignore the Quran when it says it is complete and detailed without need for any supporting material (such as the hadith, which did not exist until 200+ years after the prophet died – has anyone heard of “Chinese Whispers”)?
See:
1. It has not neglected anything (6:38)
2. It has explained every kind of example (18:54)
3. It has explained everything clearly (16:89)
4. It has explained everything in detail (41:3)
5. Its verses are perfected and expounded (11:1)
6. He who has revealed to you the Book explained in detail (6:114)
7. A confirmation of what was before it and a detailed explanation of all things and guidance and mercy for a people who believe (12:111)
8. And when Our verses are recited to them as clear evidences (10:15)
9. Alif, Lam, Ra. These are the verses of the clear Book (12:1)
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Ceylonese / March 23, 2017
Mrhy
March 22, 2017 at 4:20 pm
Why do you care about the Quran? It’s a book for Mankind not for those who believe that they are the descendants of Apes.
Sacred text has to read in context. Besides the Quran verses have been explained by their Scholars for the last 14 hundred years. Nobody cares for your lack of comprehension.
Fascinating how some with so called Muslim names are no better ill informed than the non Muslims at the door step of Satan.
Haters don’t really hate you. If fact they hate themselves, because you are a reflection of what they wish to be.
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Mrhy / March 23, 2017
If you have something constructive to say, please do. Insults don’t really do much. You know that this is just the internet right? lol
Have fun, keyboard warrior.
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Ahamed / March 22, 2017
I was surprised to see that there are so many non-Muslims friends provide the own judgement on this issue. even so many educated ones…. let me ask below questions put forward below points…
1) every religion has its own philosophy…Either non-Muslims are do not understand it or do not agree to it or mostly do not even worried to understand it …
This is a matter of one religion.. and your are trying to provide judgement with out understanding the underlying philosophy…
2) what is the effect this subject has on your own life ….how dame you all can provide your own judgement on a matter which do not have any effect on you all…. do not you all have any other work??
3) for those who say there there need to be one law needed in the country….
first of all understand what is a law…. why a law is needed …. then you will never say this ….
for your information …islamic law is made my god ..not my human … do not you see the effectiveness of man made law in sri lanka….specially in parliament….
so please mind your own business with out making trouble ….
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Azmi / March 22, 2017
Who are the ACJU? Are they a body elected by the Muslims of this nation? This is a self proclaimed body of SO-CALLED Islamic scholars, who claim they propagate the Islamic values to the muslim community.
Who is the reporter of this article? Every other articles seems to have been attributed to a certain writer. However, this is the opinion of Colombo Telegraph as we understand.
Therefore, we understand that Colombo Telegraph has an ulterior motive of carrying out a smear campaign against the religion of islam.
ACJU IS NOT A PART OF ISLAM. IT IS A GROUPING THAT CLAIMS TO REPRESENT EVERY MUSLIM IN THIS COUNTRY. THEY CERTAINLY DO NOT REPRESENT ME AND THE VALUES I CHERISH AND I AM A MUSLIM WHO BELIEVES IN THE ONENESS OF GOD AND BELIEVE MUHAMMAD AS THE PROPHET OF ALLAH. I DO NOT REQUIRE AN ACJU TO SAFEGUARD MY EEMAAN.
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I / March 22, 2017
You don’t require them to safeguard your emaan but at times of a trial,they act like proper scholars and guide us out of the problem with guidance from the Qur’an and Hadeeth if rasool ulla.
So just shut up!Use that tiny brain of yours before your comment on a public page.
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Azmi / March 24, 2017
At times of trials such as the HALAL scam and the demanding of the muslims to fast on a day when the moon was sighted and this MUFTHIN (NOT Mufti) ordered the muslims to fast on the day of Eid – which is HARAM. You call this Right Guidance?
Wake up and read the Hadeeths and the Quran – It is available in every possible language and written in the simplest of words for everyone to understand.
ALIF LAAM MEEM, DHAALIKAL KITAB LA RAIBA FEEH HUDHAN LIL MUTTAQEEN. This is the very first ayah of Surah Baqarah. Learn the meaning
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Azmi / March 24, 2017
Proper scholars ??? what a joke ? “I” whatever your name is, please bring forth to the public domain a single problem that has been resolved by the ACJU.
All ACJU will do at times of trials is recite Qunoot during five daily prayers. What is classified as a trial for these ACJU people?
Dambulla mosque was attacked, what did they do ?
Recited Qunoot
Grandpass mosque was attacked, what did they do ?
Sweet nothing .
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AJ / March 22, 2017
I don’t condone some extreme Muslims’ view prohibiting emancipation of girls and women. At the same time minors are continuously abused in Sri Kanka by Muslims and non Muslims. Because Muslim clerics openly speak against emancipation of girls does NOT mean non Muslims are not abusing girls and minors.
My point is sexual perversion is highly prevalent in our society. The education system should introduce sex Ed to handle it. Because Muslims openly admit perversion doesn’t mean , only Muslims are taking advantage of vulenerables.
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Pena Kiyanna / March 22, 2017
Read my comment on that other pedophile Mohamed Fazi’s rubbish on the other column.
These animals (they can’t be humans) should be in jail, at least.
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Spring Koha / March 22, 2017
NOT a single man is born except through a good woman. Not even a ‘learned’ mufti!
With thinking like this, how did this man become a mufti?
Our Muslim brothers and sisters will live in medieval times, in hock to outdated ‘customs and traditions’ usually formulated to enable some to have power over lesser mortals. Their marriage customs must have been formulated by closet pederasts who enjoy the ritual screwing of young children in the community.
But in time, surely, the community will produce progressive thinking to free them, and bring them to practices that will ensure a better life for all.
Let us bear with them as they try to sort out their problems.
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SFCM / March 22, 2017
Muslims tout themselves as upholders of human rights but the MMDA will not hold up against the Universal Declaration of human rights nor the Convention of the Rights of the Child. That’s why they are even resisting removal of Article 16 of the constitution which the Kandyan law & Thesavalamai law are willing to dispense with.
So by what benchmark is the human rights that the Muslims are so proud about measured against ?
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Oma Yang / March 22, 2017
To this so called authority of muslim affairs, kindly wake up and smell the coffee. The world is not what it used to be 2000 years ago…lot has changed…we are progressing forward not backward like you lot. Then again you are the types who will use your own preachings to say that you are being marginalised.
Hope he doesn’t have a daughter less than 6 years old…if yes….let him marry her off to some 50 year old with a raging hard on see if she ever walks again…..what a lunatic. This is nothing but taliban and Wahabi influences on our muslim brethren. Can you muslims who live like the rest of us…kindly denounce such radicals? its only when their own kind starts calling him ignorant will they start to take notice.
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Riyas, Malwana / March 22, 2017
Islam is the only religion among worldly religions which has no separate community called religious leaders. The theologians in Sri Lanka all over a sudden recognition by the government when the government made use of them to make representations to Muslim Countries when SL faced HR issues in Geneva.
Further the ACJU still gives its tacit support to separation of education as worldly education and the religious education which is a fallacy. That is why they give their own different opinions on varied subject such as the marriage before attaining puberty.
Instead of just translating the wording they should try to interpret the wording in the context of its social and cultural background.
Views expressed by ulemas, before accepted be subject to discussions by erudite scholars.
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silva / March 22, 2017
very soon srilanka is going to become like syria !
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Asamy Mohammed / March 22, 2017
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Faris / March 22, 2017
I went through the ACJU draft attached herein.
They have proposed 15 years as minimum age (Refer 5.6). This is the most appropriate decision to be implemented as this gives the sexual right of all men and women. Better if the General law be changed according to this in order to protect the human rights. I cant understand why these so-called feminist could not understand this.
Further, the The correct understanding for the statement, “Islam is the religion of equality”, is that, “Islam is the religion of justice”.
Before the advent of Islam the women were very insignificant, refused of human rights, treated as material of desire fulfilling the lust of males and operating as machines bearing children. To the extent, that the female babies born were buried alive. They were refused of the rights of successor of property, rights on divorcing, rights on education, rights on remarriage (of widows) and no any other rights. They were afflicted by the domination of males.
It was at this situation Islam was the only religion that voiced 1400 years ago declaring the women’s rights, freedom and their limitations and treated them with great honour and justice. Up to the extent that there is a separate chapter speaking of “Women” in the Quran. In the sight of Islam males and females were given equal rights in most of the subjects. They differentiate on certain issues depending on the instincts of both (as males and females).
However, it is contradicting the teachings of Islam that some pro-feminists’ principle of equality in sex in all matters of life. Through this principle they mislead the human beings towards homosexuality, lesbianism and mixture of males and females.
Based on the differences between men and women Islam has stated different duties and responsibilities for women as well as different duties and responsibilities for men separately, where it has identified that men are most suitable and appropriate in leadership and ruling as well as women are most suitable and appropriate in many other areas. In my view this is not a disregard; but this is a respect and honour to women.
It is the height of ignorance to measure both males and females by the same yard stick, as they are definitely DIFFERENT physically, mentally, etc.
Islam Says:
01. “Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has made one of them to excel the other, and because they spend (to support them) from their means” – 4:34
02. “but men have a degree (of responsibility) over them (Women)” – 2:228
03. It was narrated that Abu Bakrah (RadhiAllahu Anhu) said: When the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) heard that the people of Persia had appointed the daughter of Chosroes as their ruler, he said: “No people will ever prosper who appoint a woman in charge of their affair” – Bukhari : 4425
The judge is required to be present among men’s gatherings and to mix with disputants and witnesses, and may need to be alone with them. Islam seeks to protect women and preserve their honour and dignity, and protect them from those who would toy with them. That is why Islam says that women are not suitable to be appointed as Quazis.
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Banda / March 22, 2017
Faris, you wrote “Before the advent of Islam the women were very insignificant, refused of human rights….” This is absolutely rubbish. I’ll give one example you cannot deny to back my opinion. Muhammad’s first wife was a wealthy woman who owned property and ran a successful business even prior to ever meeting him. She was even his boss…. Now, how can she be a boss if women were insignificant at Muhammad’s time?
Truth is it is after Fatima (Muhammad’s first wife) died, Muhammad had come out with his true colors, sex maniac and started marrying many a woman including whores (one night stands) and a six year old child (A’isha) and consumed at nine years old.
Sahih Muslim 4:1039 says: “A’isha (Muhammad’s favorite wife) said [to Muhammad]: ‘You have made us equal to the dogs and the asses'” What more proof one need to prove that it is Muhammad who started mistreating women.
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ramona therese fernando / March 23, 2017
Faris,
Men and women ARE different physically and mentally. But both complement each other. For many occupations, especially leadership roles, both need to work together to produce what is best for society.
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zeereez / March 24, 2017
Faris, how did you come to the conclusion that ” women are not suitable to be appointed as Quazi “
Is there a specific Quran quote or hadhees in this regard?
Or , Is it the conclusion drawn based on a situation which is quoted for that particular circumstances and generalized as a rule across the board that all Women cannot have leadership status?
Sharia is a Law and Sharia is the meaning of Law in Arabic, this is purely man made jurisdiction and not a the word of Allah.
these Sharia ( Law) is drawn taking into consideration the time at which the event occurred and the circumstances in which it is issued.
As for our subject matter, there should not be any issues if we follow the law of the land, Islam had never mentioned not to follow the law of the land and if we are going to rebel against the jurisdiction of Sri Lanka , we are basically putting our community in jeopardy.
why should one nation have 2 laws and complicate matters?
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