Tamil National Alliance’s spokesperson, M. A. Sumanthiran has contradicted a statement made by Prime Minister Ranil Wickremesinghe who recently claimed that all parties in Parliament had agreed to recognize Buddhism as the foremost religion in the country under the new Constitution.
Sumanthiran
Sumanthiran said that, “A steering committee has been appointed, but we have not discussed this matter. Our stand is that there should be a secular constitution where there is no special identification for a single religion, and instead all religions should be given equal status in the country.”
Addressing a religious event over the weekend, held at the Sedawatta Weheragoda Temple in Kolonnawa, Wickremesinghe said, “everyone in Parliament, including the TNA has agreed to give the foremost position to Buddhism in the new Constitution.” He added that not only political parties but also Cardinal Malcolm Ranjith, as well as Hindu and Muslim religious leaders are in agreement to continue to recognize Buddhism as the foremost religion in the new Constitution and therefore this clause will continue even in the new constitution. “No one should make this an issue,” Wickremesinghe said.
It is not clear how Wickremesinge came to such a decision. Even the Public Representations Committee on Constitutional Reform submitted several recommendations in May this year under the Religion Chapter.
The recommendations were;
i. Retain Article 9 (Chapter II) of the current Constitution with no change
ii. Heading of Chapter II of the current Constitution should state ‘Religions’ and not Buddhism and retain Article 9 as it is with no change
iii. Reformulate Article 9 of the current Constitution as follows:
“The Republic of Sri Lanka shall give all religions equal status. The State shall protect and foster Buddhism and the Buddha Sāsana while assuring to all religions the rights granted by Articles 10 and 14(1) e of the current Constitution.
iv. Sri Lanka shall be a secular State
v. Sri Lanka shall be a secular State while recognizing the role of religion in the spiritual development of people
vi. Heading of Chapter II of the current Constitution should State ‘Religions’. The clause should be revised as follows:
“The Republic of Sri Lanka will give all religions equal status”
Read the chapter 4 in the Public Representations Committee on Constitutional Reform here
Sunil / October 11, 2016
Plenty of Sri Lankans don’t want Buddhism or any Religion to have a Foremost Place In New Constitution!!! No Religion should be given any special treatment. Seperate religion from state. It is a vital step towards moving to a developed nation..
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Nuwan / October 11, 2016
What is a secular state?
In so called secular states, like in US, Chaplain is a position in the Congress and delivers opening prayer. Although it is open to any religion, all appointed chaplain thus far are Christian.
Similarly the Australian Senate starts its day with the following prayer, “Almighty God, we humbly beseech Thee to vouchsafe Thy special blessing upon this Parliament, …….. Amen.” This Almighty god is not particularly a Hindu God or Allah.
So much so for secularism. So, I don’t understand what this secular state we are talking about.
In the constitution I read,
” The Republic of Sri Lanka shall give to Buddhism the foremost place and accordingly it shall be the duty of the State to protect and foster the Buddha Sasana, while assuring to all religions the rights granted by Articles 10 and 14(1)(e).”
What has any government from 1976 (or before) done to protect and foster Buddha Sasana? What do protecting and fostering mean in reality? What if the paragraph wasn’t there? Does it make any difference?
As long as the government is not banning any religion, not forcefully imposing any religion on its citizens, and making laws based on religious beliefs and principles, that to me is enough.
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No Foremost place / October 11, 2016
The new constitution should guarantee equal status for all ethnic groups that live in Sri Lanka as its citizens, and equal status for all religions that are practiced by the Sri Lankan citizen. There shouldn’t be any foremost place for majority religion or majority race. All religions should be equal and should be independent of politics. This is the most fundamental thing that a constitution in a country with a multi-society should have. If this basic concept is not adopted in the new constitution, then what is the point in changing it?
With regards to Cardinal Malcolm Ranjith, firstly, he represents only the Catholic Church and not the entire Christian community in Sri Lanka. Secondly, this can be his personal opinion and not the opinion of the entire catholic church/community of Sri Lanka. Thirdly, we all know that Cardinal Malcolm Ranjith is a shameless Rajapakshe stooge who obtained personal favours from the Rajapakshe government and therefore it is obvious that the Cardinal will be obliged to preach a political sermon for favours granted to him. He is a disgrace to the Catholics of Sri Lanka and the majority of Catholics are not happy with the way their Cardinal has been supporting the racist ideology of the Rajapakshes and the joint opposition.
Let me remind the readers,
Ruwani Cooray, niece of Cardinal Malcolm Ranjith has not passed the Foreign Service examination nor been recruited to the foreign service through any accepted procedure. However she was appointed by the Rajapakshe government as the second secretary to the Sri Lanka Embassy in France.
Suppose if the Catholics accept what he says, then what about others. The Non-Catholic Christians, Muslims and the Hindus? The foremost place for Buddhism (given only in 1972 in the republican constitution) should be removed and all religions in Sri Lanka should be given equal status as a first step in making Sri Lanka a secular state. This is not just the demand of the Tamils but the demand from all Sri Lankans.
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jim softy / October 11, 2016
NO FOREMOST PLACE
Sri Lanka should be given equal status as a first step in making Sri Lanka a secular state. This is not just the demand of the Tamils
Why in Tamilnadu, christians and Muslims are Dalits ?
USA is not secular. UK is not secular. that is how most other western countries are.
Only two places which are secular on earth are Jerusalem and India.
Sumanthiran is fighting for the Christian church.
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Native Vedda / October 11, 2016
jim softy the Dimwit
“Sumanthiran is fighting for the Christian church.”
Your fellow Sinhala/Buddhists have been trying to destroy Buddhism for almost 100 years since the public racist Aryan lion Anagarika Dharmapala first roared.
USA, Russia, UK, and France have Christian Bombs.
Israel has Zionist Bomb
Pakistan ha Islamic bomb
China has Mao Bomb.
Would you like to develop a Sinhala/Buddhist Bomb?
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Amarasiri / October 14, 2016
Native Vedda
“Would you like to develop a Sinhala/Buddhist Bomb?”
Do they have the necessary IQ to develop one?
Sinhala Buddhists go berserk, when they they see a tourist with a Buddha Tattoo, whereas the Indians or Nepalese, where Buddha was Born do not go berserk.
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frankistine / October 14, 2016
“whereas the Indians or Nepalese, where Buddha was Born do not go berserk.
Nana thoppi!
neither UNESCO or Japanese agree that Buddha was born there- just tree huggers Try China because Xi is interested.
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Ron / October 12, 2016
No Foremost place, what about Atheists do they get treated equally too or do all the religions gang up and try to suppress them as usual!?
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Native Vedda / October 11, 2016
Nuwan
“So much so for secularism. So, I don’t understand what this secular state we are talking about.”
USA sent men to the moon and returned them safely. USA nuked Japan not just ones but twice why doesn’t this island develop Nuclear weapons and bomb the hell out of countries threatening us? If you want this island to follow USA or Australia, why couldn’t you take the best achievements of these countries and replicate them here?
“I don’t understand what this secular state we are talking about.”
It is about separation of faith and state.
Already we have seen crooks, murderers and corrupt politicians hiding behind, Sinhala/Buddhism, Sinha Le, majoritarianism, smart ass patriotism, ……
Do you want to facilitate them to hide behind constitution as they have done since 1972?
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jim softy / October 11, 2016
IS the United Kingdom a secular state ?
In the UNited kingdom even a book which says there is no god is not published because that humiliate the queen.
Where is this secular state ?
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timbuttu / October 11, 2016
“”jim softy”2
Sri Lanka Sinhala Buddhist is a Lynching State. from the days Sink_A_lam Gauud Budd took over the missionary schools.
That is why you are a blood terrorist Jim.
HMS role is mostly symbolic: she represents Britain on state visits and on ceremonial occasions.
your education at USA was more from a secular state where Christianity is the majority faith.
From the Founding Fathers on the Separation of Church and State that Will Make Conservative Christians’ Lose Their Minds!
As we approach the celebrations of our country’s birth(240 years ago in 1776 on July 4), thoughts turn to our Founding Fathers and their courage. These men risked it all to forge a new nation. This had never been done before. What those men did was unprecedented and their very lives were on the line because of it.
In their eagerness to have the Founders on “their side,” modern Christians try to promote the idea that America is meant to be a Christian nation. But the Founding Fathers — those men who formed and nurtured this nation — were not all Christian. Most were free-thinkers, agnostics and Deists. No matter what their religious leanings, however, they fought for a secular state. They saw how Europe had fared with theocracies and state-sponsored religion and wanted none of it here.
The view that America is a Christian nation is nothing more than fantasy and revisionist history on the part of one religion. This religion has forced itself onto the state: from coinage to the Pledge of Allegiance, we see its fingerprints. This religion is shown deference in ways other religions have to fight for. But they still try to rewrite history to claim the Founding Fathers for their own religion.
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DeepCut / October 11, 2016
Head-up-ass sausage party.
You shit your pants from fright!
“IS the United Kingdom a secular state ?”
It is besides the point from colony scum off hora oru.
USA is a former colony like shit lankan where the passport has no value and GAUUD BUUUD people beg from the world, murder and live like animals pedophiles.
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Native Vedda / October 11, 2016
jim softy dimwit
“IS the United Kingdom a secular state ?”
Have you been invited to draft UK constitution?
“Where is this secular state ?”
Where is your brain? Are you sitting on it?
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srinath.gunaratne / October 11, 2016
As secular as England, where church of England crown the king/queen!
All commemorations are done with Christian clergy participation!
Ha ha. In god we trust, We bomb countries and send UAVs.
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premarathme / October 11, 2016
I think that we all should follow the civilized countries like USA Norway when it comes to tricky issues like this as we follow their advice on peace, reconciliation, environment, economics etc. Why not?
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Joseph De Vazz - Kotte / October 11, 2016
Hindus are in Majority in India but Hindu is not a state Religion. Cardinal Malcom should travel to other countries and study their religions and its only in Muslim countries Islam is a state Religion. Malcom should think before he opens his Jarawa Kata. Malcom kata wagana inna eka, hootah hondai Ratata hondai.
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Lalith Perera - Wattala / October 12, 2016
You are right whenever Cardinal Malcom open his mouth he throws Jarawa.
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Lanka Watch / October 12, 2016
Well Said Sunil,
Sri Lankans should give their religion a foremost
place in their hearts and not in the new constitution.
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Bunjappu / October 12, 2016
WHAT MATTERS IS MAJORITY OF THE PARTIES AGREED.
in a democracy too, not almost everyone would share the same view. See, among those JO men, how many of them are sheepish…. not being able to bear the views of Athigaru right at the moment, nevetheless they started eating garbage, so need to bring that behind eating all the heaps, now looking back and share their disagreements can only lead to corners for them: Latter is the case for Gonthadipila, the most abusive of all poisonous sort, but he has to… the kind of men I am lucky not to haveeven met in my life.
I once happened to listen to a TV discussion where also Sumanthiran was among the invitees, but this pivithuru dog, started attacking Sumanthiran, calling that his sinhala could be forgotten etc. If Germany s counterparts woudl have come with the kind of arguments, such politicians would have been warned. Since we should be very happy the way Sumanthiran or others are now by coming to discussion tables.
We and our politicians should be made accoutable for all what they have done not allowing tamil srilankens to learn the sinhala adequately, who governed the nation, if not the leaders elected from Majority folks.
I simply believe, Gonthadipila or the like should be kept in jail by introducing them reconcilatory courses. That is what South africa did, America and Germany do even today.
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Amarasiri / October 12, 2016
Tamil National Alliance’s spokesperson, M. A. Sumanthiran
RE: Sumanthiran Contradicts Ranil’s Claim That All Parties Agreed To Give Buddhism Foremost Place In New Constitution
When the enlightened Buddha was faced with Idiots, he kept silent.
In Sri Lanka, the Sinhala “Buddhists” show their Stupidity, in Lanka, the “Dhamma Diva”. Faith Island , as per monk Mahanama of Mahawamsa. Sri Lankan Buddhists you are idiots. Is the Pope Catholic?
Read an Interesting post on Sinhala Buddhists. Do people become stupid when they follow Sinhala “Buddhism”? The enlightened Buddhas never said that.
Friday, 25 April 2014
Idiots of the week – Sri Lankan Buddhists [Edited out]
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Amarasiri / October 12, 2016
Sunil
“Plenty of Sri Lankans don’t want Buddhism or any Religion to have a Foremost Place In New Constitution!!! “
Except the Stupid and the Idiot Sinhala “Buddhists”. Read below.
[Edited out]
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SinhalaPropaganda / October 11, 2016
Sinhala Buddhism is am embarrassment to actual Buddhism anyway. Don’t ruin the image of Buddha further by declaring it a state religion of a genocidal regime.
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Amarasiri / October 13, 2016
SinhalaPropaganda
“Sinhala Buddhism is am embarrassment to actual Buddhism anyway. Don’t ruin the image of Buddha further by declaring it a state religion of a genocidal regime.”
Yes.
Imagine, Hitler declaring Catholicism, the State Religion of Germany and Nazism?
Right now there is the ISIS, the “Islamic” State id Iraq and Syria, that claims, ISLAM, as its State Religion, in its distorted form.
Similarly the Sinhala “Buddhist” State of Sri Lanka wantS to give Sinhala “Buddhism” its prominent place.
What is the difference compared to Nazis, ISIS and the Sri Lanka State? It is in degree only.
That is why Religion and State must be kept separate.
Otherwise tourists with tatoes in their bodies of Buddha will be deported.
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jim softy / October 11, 2016
This is very good IDea for middle easterbn religeons.
Make it secular and let christians and Muslims to gfight it out because Even Catholics will be side lines and will be absorebed to christianity. Sri lankan Sunni s kill all the muslims in Sri lanka. All the Tamil HIndus will go back to Tamilnadu.
Who knows, buddhists may be outlawed saying buddhists are racists.
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justice / October 11, 2016
A secular state is best.
A large number of states in the world are secular.
Religion, is slowly being phased out of human political heritage, as it has caused more suffering than military/political conflict.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_state#List_of_secular_states_by_continent
India, our neighbour and the second most populous nation, is prospering under secularism, whereas, we, “under Buddhism”, are heading in the opposite direction.
If what Sumanthiran says is correct, Ranil Wickremasinghe is stating a blatant untruth.
This is very disappointing.
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Amarasiri / October 11, 2016
Tamil National Alliance’s spokesperson, M. A. Sumanthiran
RE: Sumanthiran Contradicts Ranil’s Claim That All Parties Agreed To Give Buddhism Foremost Place In New Constitution
“Tamil National Alliance’s spokesperson, M. A. Sumanthiran has contradicted a statement made by Prime Minister Ranil Wickremesinghe who recently claimed that all parties in Parliament had agreed to recognize Buddhism as the foremost religion in the country under the new Constitution.”
Just Tell Ranil W and the others that to give Foremost Place in the Constitution, provided that the Buddhists can come up with independent Proof that Buddhism is True, not a Myth like the myth of the Sun going around the Earth, as per the Bible, and other religious Myths, in Hinduism, Judaism, Christianity and Islam. There is a danger that little boys will be abused, including some little girls.
Does the Sun go around the earth? Still Ignorant, even though most religious people are Good People. However, the Sinhala Buddhists have not shown that they are good people, like the Wahhabies and their clones, and they are not promoting the pristine Buddhism or Islam. They all need further evolution.
The religion Itself is wrong and evil.
To Give Buddhism Foremost Place In New Constitution? This is what Ranil wants?
Re Buddhism — ATHEIST POWER!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsgcP65dDOg
Buddhism The Great Evil — Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNOfTGSADdY
Buddhism The Great Evil — Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clcs2PSze0I
Child Abuse by a Monk in Habaraduwa – Foremost Place to Child abuse?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNSC93mPs4I
Uploaded on May 29, 2010
She sent her grandson to school with the idea of providing him with proper education to make him a good person. The Buddhist monk in charge of the temple asked her to send the child to the temple and she sent him there because they were poor. There was no possibility for them to pay the money for tuition fees. That was the reason why they sent the boy to the temple school.When the child began to refuse going to the temple school so adamantly, grandmother had to look for the reason. It was then only that she discovered that the child who was sent to learn good behavior, ethics and Buddha’s Dharma from the monk had in fact been abused by the monk.
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Ahamed Shakil / October 11, 2016
Hey Amar naana;
“Just Tell Ranil W and the others that to give Foremost Place in the Constitution, provided that the Buddhists can come up with independent Proof that Buddhism is True, not a Myth like the myth of the Sun going around the Earth, as per the Bible, and other religious Myths, in Hinduism, Judaism, Christianity and Islam”
Shut your bucket. Your ignorance is so obvious whenever you say anything. The dogs born on the street hardly have any values, they even don’t know who the father is?
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Amarasiri / October 11, 2016
Ahamed Shakil, Dimwit, Nitwit, Blockhead,
Check your chromosomes? Do you have 46 or 48? From Where did you get it?
Got it from Primates, Adam, Jashusa?
Just Google Ken Miller on Evolution or on U Tube.
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Ahmed Shakil / October 11, 2016
Hey Amar Naana;
“Check your chromosomes? Do you have 46 or 48? From Where did you get it? Got it from Primates, Adam, Jashusa? Just Google Ken Miller on Evolution or on U Tube”
It seems that is all you do trying to find out your origin or roots. you need to see a psychiatrist very soon before doing further harm to your worthless, stinking low life.
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Amarasiri / October 12, 2016
Ahmed Shakil, Greetings!
“It seems that is all you do trying to find out your origin or roots. you need to see a psychiatrist very soon before doing further harm to your worthless, stinking low life.”
If you look in your mirror, you will see a life with 46 Chromosomes, derived from Primates. May be you need to get your chromosomes tested, especially Chromosome No.2.
Stupidest Muslim Vs Neil Tyson – How ideology can ruin intellectual power
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyCxrL9-C84
Published on Nov 10, 2014
This is not a debate between some Muslim and Neil Tyson. But this video shows the thinking of some very well educated 21’st century Muslim (I don’t know he is ignorant, stupid or dishonest. But he is one for sure) and Neil Tyson speaking in a lecture about how Muslims intellectual power ruined by an ideology. However, this is not restricted to Islamic Ideology.
Ken Miller on Human Evolution
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi8FfMBYCkk
Uploaded on Feb 14, 2007
Dr. Ken Miller talks about the relationship between Homo sapiens and the other primates. He discusses a recent finding of the Human Genome Project which identifies the exact point of fusion of two primate chromosomes that resulted in human chromosome #2.
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umberto gui / October 11, 2016
WEll spoken Amarasiri.
This low life Ahamed Shakil
, who does not know which of the many muslim who visit his mother is his father, deserves what you have said of him. Well done keep going but refrain from your IQ statistics.
All be with you
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Rajash / October 11, 2016
Ranil meant “That All Parties WILL Agree To Give Buddhism Foremost Place In New Constitution”
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sekara / October 11, 2016
If that is what he meant, he should have corrected the news report promptly.
BTW, when did Ranil tell Rajash what he meant?
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Native Vedda / October 11, 2016
SJ/sekara
Irrespective of what Ranil said, what do you think?
Should the proposed new constitution provide a special status for a particular religion/faith or guarantee secularism and faith neutral?
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Rajash / October 11, 2016
obviously he didn’t tell me.
What I meant is that there will be some arm twisting.
I doubt that Ranil and/or My3have the guts to give equal status to all religion.
They will play around with the words not to upset the “Men in yellow Robes”
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De Silva / October 11, 2016
Well, the then High Commissioner to Sri Lanka, Mr J.N. Dixit writes the following in his autobiography – “Assignment Colombo”. Dixit was the co-architect of Indian cross border terrorism in 1980.
Indira Gandhi “began to give support to Sri Lankan Tamil parties and Tamil militant groups from 1980 onwards” (page 15).
Secondly, “there were media reports confirming the fact that from 1981 onwards India had provided training, weaponry and logistical support to Tamil militant groups” (page 23).
India has decided the above policy by 1980. The headline story of 1983 is that the Indian govt is actively sponsoring cross border terrorism aided by Tamils in Sri Lanka. The riots and other forms of violence has begun to escalate.
Another part of Indian and Tamil violence on Sri Lanka is vandalism of its Buddhist heritage. The Sri Lankan govt urgently requests protection of its Buddhist heritage from UNESCO in the following letter.
http://www.jaffnahistory.com/Cyril.pdf
So Buddhism will need state protection given the kind of neighborhood Sri Lanka is forced to exist.
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Native Vedda / October 11, 2016
De Silva
Are you hearing voices of Cyril Mathew today?
We were told he died in October 1989 and buried in the same year.
If Cyril Mathew has been haunting you in recent days I suggest you bring in 18 Pahatharata masked dancers to exorcise (Sanni yakuma) his ghost.
In the meantime Northern Provincial Governor Reginald Cooray needs to measures to protect the Jaffna Public Library at any cost, preventing police and armed forces getting near the building.
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state protection / October 11, 2016
Who in his/her right mind would have ever thought that there is a Backward, Primitive, narrow minded, Racist, Fanatic, Barbaric, Inhumane, Submissive insane society worse than Taliban in Sri Lanka known as Sinhala-Buddhists who will need protection from the state for their monks (rowdies in robes) to dictate terms and therefore should be given the foremost place in the whole country.
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Amarasiri / October 12, 2016
state protection
“Who in his/her right mind would have ever thought that there is a Backward, Primitive, narrow minded, Racist, Fanatic, Barbaric, Inhumane, Submissive insane society ….”
Sihala “Buddhist” Politicians and Sinhala “Buddhist” Monks of sri Lanka.
To Give Buddhism Foremost Place In New Constitution? This is what Ranil wants?
Keep State and Religion Separate.
Re Buddhism — ATHEIST POWER!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsgcP65dDOg
Buddhism The Great Evil — Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNOfTGSADdY
Buddhism The Great Evil — Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clcs2PSze0I
Child Abuse by a Monk in Habaraduwa – Foremost Place to Child abuse?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNSC93mPs4I
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?Upul Tilakaratna ? / October 12, 2016
De Silva ( giver jungle)
What did the portugese from 800 years of Islamic rule to rear
Jabalí (wildboar).
Sinha_Le mixed blood like Hitlers(DNA proof:african +arab) hurts your ego.
Greed of the village lout when he comes to city. sinhal_le speaking Demala, you have never lived or worked at India but are a Hora Oru to Australia like Antahy Peter the demala troll.
Three Humbugs of Great Gawd Budd- Fame, Wealth, Power.
“”Well, the then High Commissioner to Sri Lanka, Mr J.N. Dixit writes the following in his autobiography – “Assignment Colombo”. Dixit was the co-architect of Indian cross border terrorism in 1980. Indira Gandhi “began to give support to Sri Lankan Tamil parties and Tamil militant groups from 1980 onwards” (page 15).””
Dixit the paid employee like DJ was called dixit, bull shit cow shit at Chanakyapuri -because he was a failure unlike Delhi Walla Jaishankar the linguist (Perfect, Mandarin, Perfect English, Hindi, Punjabi Tamil) Jaishanker has taken away most of Xi doubts in his own language and also Obama’s for him to have conversational tea in the garden.
Sanjay crashed near our office engineering projects of India end of June 1980- during this period Indira had too many issues to mention on CT.Wev even watch her come pick up the bunch of keys tuck it in her sari and walk away without shedding a tear- he was out of control Gooda. Then we understood this great woman `I` for Indira- as in Ayn R.
As much as President of USA is unaware of CIA the PM of India is unaware of RAW and security doings (too big a nation and autonomy; pretty women officers just vanish)
There was cladestine trainig organised by retired security forces personel at Nadu(convenient language) who had fought WW2 and this turned to something different after black July 83. With Premadasa and bollocks degrading the Indian public.
Sorry I cannot `be` for the sinhala or tamil village louts full of disinformation and no prick.
We all are aware after Navy corporal De Silva of south attack (even recently as 2013 he has said he would do it again) that Premadasa arranged Rajiv murder. Nevill was informed (he only took orders from Premadasa no one else senior most guy) that it would be toot for toot. Babu did the diced meat for Werewolf. Stupid imbeciles runied goodwill of a nation for Great Gawd Budd.
“In 1979, when she visited Madurai, some hooligans attacked her. Nedumaran saved her from the attacks”
this does not mean a thing to me.We like you political correct scum but have saved a greater life from royalty (Maratha) and still holder of New York’s Record for Engineering. Folk were shocked the gang was around 500 locals because I was a Paradeshi and my friend was the future gold medalist like his dad both Indian.
SCUM OF POLITICIANS HUNT LIKE HYENAS-ALONE OR COUPLE GOO BAYEE.
Today India is controlled by Hindu Maratha not half baked Muslim Congress.
NaMo is the first nearly perfect puppet from Gujarat.
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S.R.H. Hoole / October 11, 2016
If Buddhism is given foremost place, non-Buddhists are automatically inferior citizens. As I said on an Art TV interview recently. this is no different from giving a bottle of attack to buy votes; in this case offering a privilege to Buddhists to buy their vote.
We were promised a perfect Constitution. Give us a secular Constitution making us all equal.
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jay / October 11, 2016
Isnt Sri Lanka a secular country already ?
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Mudiyanselage / October 12, 2016
srinath and jay – harping on.
move that butt to the secular sinhala threads of our newsroom.
you would find input from all communities there.
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srinath.gunaratne / October 11, 2016
We are all equal in front of Law,
Sri Lanka is a Buddhist country as England is a christian country,
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Real Siva Sankaran Sarma / October 11, 2016
99.99% of the native population in Britain are Christians . The non Christians are largely immigrants who arrived recently. Therefore England can be Christian, however only 70% of the indigenous population in the island are Buddhist the rest a Hindu, Muslim and Christian, Moreover the north and east of the island has always been Hindu not Buddhist and it was Hinduism not Buddhism that was patronised by the rulers of these regions. So if you want to make Buddhism a state religion it can be the state religion only in the south. In the North and east we want it to be secular with all people living there given equal rights.
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srinath.gunaratne / October 11, 2016
Start with the abolishing of caste system!
Good luck mate.
You talk about equal rights, when you do not give water to person belong to a so called low castes!
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Native Vedda / October 12, 2016
srinath.gunaratne
“Start with the abolishing of caste system!”
Good idea. When are you starting in the South?
“You talk about equal rights, when you do not give water to person belong to a so called low castes!”
Did you tell them that you belonged to Rodiya community?
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mahaa sudhu Johnson / October 12, 2016
srinath.gunaratne ,
atte motte atta pirikana,
you have not even read Victor Hugo’s Hunchback of Notre-Dame.
Yakko night school English rule the roost at Lankawe??
Better post in the sinhala thread you would get cleaned.
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jim softy / October 11, 2016
Real Sankara Rama:
Read below
A BBC news report in 2004-MAY revealed that about 74% of adults in England and Wales regard themselves as Christians. Another approximately 6% identify with another religion. But only about 7% of Christians in the UK actually attend church regularly. Hanne Stinson, director of the British Humanist Association, said that many adults are “cultural Christians.” They see themselves as being Christian in the same way that they are British, almost in a tribal way. She said:
“People label themselves with what they were brought up with…If they haven’t gone to church for 20 years, they still put themselves down on official forms as ‘Church of England’.”
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DeepCut / October 12, 2016
Head up ass sausage party,
Goo Baaye cant answer won’t answer like the Faith lunatics you are talking to.
BBC is a news retailer unlike Sky, APS,AP.
Religion in the United Kingdom (2011 census)[1]
Christianity (59.5%)
No religion (25.7%)
Not stated (7.2%)
Islam (4.4%)
Hinduism (1.3%)
Other religions (1.9%)
90% of Christians do not attend service and go in for baptism and death only. But they have faith in themselves because half of the 60% are free thinker atheist, pagans.
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?frankistine / October 12, 2016
Sausage party Tatte Motte, Van̆durā වඳුරා, Pimbura-පිඹුරා is your lover.
So you sing Les Misérables thinking the world is full of Tigers.
Surveys
Religious affiliations of UK citizens are recorded by regular surveys, the four major ones being the UK Census,[30] the Labour Force Survey,[31] the British Social Attitudes survey[32] and the European Social Survey.[33] The different questions asked by these surveys produced different results:
The census for England and Wales asked the question “What is your religion?”.[34] In 2001 14.81 per cent[35] and in 2011 around a quarter (25.1 per cent) of the population said they had “none” and 59.5% stated they were Christian.[36]
The census for Scotland asked the question “What religion, religious denomination or body do you belong to?”.[34] In 2001 27.55 per cent[37] and in 2011 36.7 per cent, selected ‘none’ and 53.8% stated they were Christian.[23]
The Labour Force Survey asked the question “What is your religion even if you are not currently practising?” with a response of 15.7 per cent selecting ‘no religion’ in 2004 and 22.4 per cent selecting ‘no religion’ in 2010.[38]
The British Social Attitudes survey asked the question “Do you regard yourself as belonging to any particular religion?” with 49 per cent selecting ‘no religion’ in 2014.[39]
The European Social Survey asked the question “Which religion or denomination do you belong to at present?” with 50.54 per cent of respondents selecting ‘no religion’ in 2002 and 52.68 per cent selecting ‘no religion’ in 2008.[40]
The wording of the question affects the outcome of polls as is apparent when comparing the results of the Scottish census with that of the English and Welsh census.[35][37][41][42] An ICM poll for The Guardian in 2006 asked the question “Which religion do you yourself belong to?” with a response of 64 per cent stating ‘Christian’ and 26 per cent stating ‘None’. In the same survey, 63 per cent claimed they are not religious with just 33 per cent claiming they are.[43] This suggests that the religious UK population identify themselves as having Christian beliefs, but maybe not as active ‘church-goers’.[44]
The British Social Attitudes surveys and the European Social Surveys are fielded to adult individuals.[39][40] In contrast, the United Kingdom Census and the Labour Force Surveys are household surveys; the respondent completes the questionnaire on behalf of each member of the household,[41][42][45] including children,[38] as well as for themselves. The 2010 Labour Force Survey claimed that 54 per cent of children aged from birth to four years were Christian, rising to 59 per cent for children aged between 5 and 9 and 65 per cent for children aged between 10 and 14.[38] The inclusion of children with adult-imposed religions influences the results of the polls.[44][46]
Other major polls agree with the British Social Attitudes surveys and the European Social Surveys, with a YouGov survey fielded in February 2012 indicating that 43 per cent of respondents claimed to belong to a religion and 76 per cent claimed they were not very religious or not religious at all.[47] An Ipsos MORI survey fielded in August 2003 indicated that 18 per cent of respondents claimed to be “a practising member of an organised religion” and 25 per cent claimed “I am a non-practising member of an organised religion”.[48]
Detailed 2015 BSA survey on religion in the UK[49][50]
Affiliation % of U.K. population
Christian 42
Church of England 17
Other Christian[51] 17
Roman Catholic 8
Unaffiliated 49
Non-Christian faiths 8
Muslim 5
Other Non-Christian faiths 3
Don’t know/refused answer 1
Total 100
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_United_Kingdom
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Native Vedda / October 12, 2016
srinath.gunaratne
“Sri Lanka is a Buddhist country as England is a christian country, “
What makes this island a Buddhist country?
You are not a Buddhist but a Sinhala/Buddhists racist who has no place in this island, go build your own Sinhala/Buddhists ghetto and declare it as such.
Are you into criminal actives and looking for a place to hide? There is plenty of room inside MR’s amudey, go hide there, not behind Buddhism.
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S.R.H. Hoole / October 11, 2016
And what does the PM mean no one should make an issue of this?
We live in a democracy where we have a right to protest when our rights as citizens are threatened.
Or are we not in a democracy?
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Mallaiyuran / October 11, 2016
True, but you don’t die hard to divide the Tamils on the Catholics and Hindu line by putting a secret effort to save Catholic schools like Uduvil.
We don’t need PhD to explain to us the PM’s claim of how signed a peace deal with LTTE, divided, conquered and destroyed them.
What we want is not to sweep the issues under the carpet with the hope the coming new American Administration be easily manipulated than Secretary Kerry, but put the solution to Sinhalese, if they don’t agree we have to go free.
The British handed over Soulbury constitution was not having issues until Don Stephen and Solomon West Ridgeway Dias introduced the issue, the Sinhala Buddhist.
What Sumanthiran means is, it is not just PM stands for election, but even TNA has to stand for election. PM should not spread lies in the name of making a fake constitution to save the war criminal from IC.
A learned professor should know we need a life beyond protesting for 65 years.
“We live in a democracy where we have a right to protest when our rights as citizens are threatened.” How many times in the past you felt the Tamils rights are threatened by their government and you took to the street to protest to restore that right? Don’t preach a lousy philosophy.
That is the most stupid comment ever written by an ignorant man of Tamils history – or rather by a selfish man. We need to go on our path leaving this selfish man wherever he is.
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Jithan / October 14, 2016
Mallaiyuran,
Please don’t show your ignorance here. Uduvil Girls’ College is not a Catholic school. There are many Tamils in SL who are not going to support what the LTTE did. The LTTE was a fascist murderous group. Sumanthiran said in public that the LTTE’s decision to evict Muslims from the North should be called ethnic-cleansing. He said in Toronto in front of Tamil diaspora that he would even resign from his post but what the LTTE did was ethnic cleansing. He and Sambandan attended the Independence Day celebrations. Still they got elected by the people. And people who criticized them in SL and diaspora and supported Gajen Ponnambalam faced defeat. Gajen’s party did not even win a sit Some people in the Trans-national Government of Tamil Eelam are trying to give Oxygen to LTTE and its narrow ideologies. But we are not going to support it. In Sri Lanka, most Tamils have voted for TNA which called for a united, undivided Sri Lanka, not separate Tamil Eelam. Just because some poeple have some Eelam dreams in Toronto and New York and London and Sydney that is not going to make things work.Nowhere in their manifesto do they talk about Eelam. So forget about it. Even TNPF has said no Eelam, one country and two nations. Only some ignorant, racist people in Trans-national Government of Tamil Eelam want a separate country.
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Fukushima / October 11, 2016
“”And what does the PM mean no one should make an issue of this?”2
PM’s emotional breakdown like a Tao seated a fool all day watching his forces pull dung carts.
The greatest wisdom seems like stupidity and the greatest eloquence like stuttering.
Lankan Sinhala Christian/catholic church will take it lying low. The Muslim’s would love the blasphemy laws.
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De Silva / October 12, 2016
Hello Hoole,
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If Buddhism is given foremost place, non-Buddhists are automatically inferior citizens. As I said on an Art TV interview recently. this is no different from giving a bottle of attack to buy votes; in this case offering a privilege to Buddhists to buy their vote.
We were promised a perfect Constitution. Give us a secular Constitution making us all equal.
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The British takes over Ceylon (Sinhale) in 1815 with a treaty known as the “Kandyan Convention”. The clause (No. 5 of the 12 clauses) states:
The religion of Boodoo, professed by the chiefs and inhabitants of these provinces, is declared inviolable; and its rights, ministers, and places of worship, are to be maintained and protected.
– Kandyan Convention – 1815
The convention aimed at guaranteeing the protection of an institution that was considered important to the Sinhale state.
Fast forward to year 1972. The dominion status is revoked and the Sinhale (Ceylon) regain its full independence. The article 9 of constitution states the following.
9. The Republic of Sri Lanka shall give to Buddhism the foremost place and accordingly it shall be the duty of the State to protect and foster the Buddha Sasana, while assuring to all religions the rights granted by Articles 10 and 14(1)(e).]
– Republican Constitution – 1972
The clause is simply the continuation of an institution that prevailed in the island. Its an institution cherished by majority of the people – not something that’s haggled over an “arrack bottle” over an election.
The Buddhism IS NOT the state religion that makes laws accordingly. Ceylon is a custodian of Theravada Branch of Buddhism just as the Vatican is the custodian of Catholicism, England is for Anglicanism and Saudi is for Sunni Islam.
Just as Catholicism, Anglicanism and Sunni Islam is open to fellowship, there is no exclusivity that blocks anyone from becoming a follower of Buddhism. Therefore, “inferiority” is something that imposes oneself by excluding themselves. Its not imposed by the state.
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Peter Pan / October 12, 2016
Hey Hoole; You have said
“Or are we not in a democracy?”
Are you so naïve to believe in what you have stated above. SRI LANKA IS A DEMOCRACY IN THEORY. Not in reality, guys like you pander and pamper the charlatans occupying our seat of power in Sri Lanka. For you Sri Lanka is a democratic country but for millions (the majority)it is a hell-hole architected by SWRDB and JRJ.
Sri Lanka is NOT a working Democracy and it will never be a democratic country until the dubious politicians are defeated forever.
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Sinhala Banda / October 11, 2016
Both Sumanthiran and Ranil are just playing political games with words to deny our foremost birthright. It should be stated unequivocally; SRI LANKA IS A BUDDHIST country. Ranil has been plotting all of his life to deny this right of Sinhala Buddhists. We, the Sinhala Buddhists do not need any recognition by a pretentious Buddhist politician (in other words a convert of convenience to hoodwink the majority Buddhists) and non-Buddhist minority.
It is our birthright and passed on to us by our Buddhist ancestry, it does not lend itself to be desecrated by non-Buddhists for political or any other dubious purposes. The constitution of the country must state “Sri Lanka is a Buddhist Country”. It is not an item for negotiation. It is not a subject matter to be discussed by Hedonist politicians or by any other anti Buddhist bigots and racists in Sri Lanka. Therefore who cares what Ranil or Sumanthiran said on this matter.
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Spark / October 11, 2016
First and foremost the Buddhism practiced by the Sinhalese is an insult to the true preaching’s of Lord Buddha. The Sinhalese are converts to Buddhism thanks to Sangamitta Thera from India. Buddhism is not about planting Buddha Statues in every street corner, by the side of dirty drains, next to meat/fish markets and alcohol shops or close to other locations of other religious worship creating disassociation and a nuisance. Buddhism is not about planting Buddha Statues by three wheeler drivers and administration of the same by such low caste principled yakko type fellows. Buddhism is not about blasting pirith on loudspeakers desecrating the silence of the environment. The statue of Lord Buddha is not a Christmas tree for an ignorant shameless population of Sinhalese to decorate with sparkling colorful lights to gain attraction. Buddhism is not a pedestal for a group of Mahanayake theros to create divisional politics and caste based nikayas such as the Siam, Malwatte, Asgiriya that play and pander with the dirty politics and racist policies of Sinhalese political leaders such as SWRD Bandaranayake and recently Mahinda Rajapakse. Buddhism is not about these Mahanayake Theras to keep conveniently silent when thousands of Tamils were being murdered on the basis of patriotism and heroism in riots of 1915, 1956, 1958, 1977, 1983 and finally State genocide of 2009 by Sinhalese and only make an issue that Lord Buddha’s photographs need to be banned from being published in Newspapers because fish and meat or alcohol can be wrapped in the those same newspapers. Buddhism is not about banning meat and alchohol and even theatres on Poya days while Sinhalese are seen ganging up at supermarkets and shops the day before filling their larders with meat and alcohol. When Rev. Sangamitra Thera converted these uncivilized Sinhalese to Buddhism, little did he realize that these monkeys would one day abuse and use this religion as a tool for criminalizing society and manipulate the same for religious intolerance and racism. It is sad that India, being the true land of Lord Buddha and having the most exemplary Buddhists of the world fails to make a statement of the level of abuse and shameless indiscipline that is perpetrated by the Sinhalese in the name of Buddhism in Sri Lanka bringing untold shame on this great son of India Lord Buddha.
We are historically a country full of frauds, thugs, criminals, drunkards and murderers? Sri Lanka never gave birth to philosophers, poets, principled human rights activists, politicians of rare caliber and ethic such as Mahatma Ghandhi, Buddha, Dalai Lama, Confucius, Aristotle, Shakespeare, Martin Luther King, Abraham Lincoln, Nelson Mandela…that other countries can be proud. Our history is filled with Saradiel (thug), Anagarika (Sinhala supremacist), Kasyapa (patricide), Dutugemunu (racist invader), Sepala (Hijacker who was given a hero’s welcome), Wijeyamuni (Navy rating who hit Rajiv Ghandhi at a honor guard and became a hero to the Sinhalese), JR (racist politician), Mahinda (political crook) and a citizenship that considers these same scum bags as their hero’s. We hide behind a heavy veil of pseudo Buddhism involving in rituals (much of which are copied from Dravidian Hindu practices) than the true wisdom and practice that Buddha preached. This pseudo Buddhist card is used as an ace to hide the fact that this citizenry is still actually uncivilized. Therefore, even when a change of governance occurs based on a change for explicit principles to eliminate corruption, good governance, human rights, justice to victims of state criminality, eliminating impunity and utter arrogance in the rule of law, recognizing the right of minority culture language identity religion and homelands….. one cannot expect much change because historically we have been a nation of bastards.
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jim softy / October 11, 2016
The Sinhalese are converts to Buddhism thanks to Sangamitta Thera from India.
when did christians and Muslims were converted from pagens to christians and muslims ?
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DeepCut / October 11, 2016
GUUUD BUUUD all 3 of are converts just like you and him.
emotional tarts.
Reason can dream what dreams cannot reason.
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21st century Homo Sapien / October 11, 2016
Sinhala Banda, “It is our birthright and passed on to us by our Buddhist ancestry”.
Mate, if your justification is ‘ancestry’, why not consider giving the foremost place to Beastility or Incest or Rape or Necrophilia (as we have seen in recent times from Sinhala Bandas)? These are all parts of your ancestry and as you say your ‘birthright’.
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Silva / October 11, 2016
Sinhala Banda, There is no such thing as “Sinhala Buddhists” only Buddhists!
People all over the world subscribe to Buddhism what language you speaks has nothing to do with it!
Buddhism belongs to the world.
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Sinhala Banda / October 12, 2016
Silva;
You don’t understand the topic, we are not discussing the injustices inflicted on Buddhists in other countries or rest of the world. It is the plight of the Sinhala Buddhists in Sri Lanka.
Most likely you would like to twist the story or marginalize our birthright claims because of your inferior complex. Sorry fellow all started with the Portuguese colonialist. At least try to redeem yourself in this birth.
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Native Vedda / October 12, 2016
Sinhala Pandaranayakam
“At least try to redeem yourself in this birth.”
Leave it to Karma. Try and redeem yourself from stupidity and bigotry.
“I was thinking that if what distinguishes us as humans is our stupidity, what may redeem us is our grace.”
– Earl Lovelace
“It is the plight of the Sinhala Buddhists in Sri Lanka. “
Then blame your Sinhala/Buddhist rulers, corrupt politicians, judiciary, state institutions and functionaries, …..
The crooks gave prominent place to Buddhism in the constitution in 1972. Even 44 years after constitutional Buddhism being created, it couldn’t improve the lives of Sinhala/Buddhists, leave alone the next in the 100 years.
Ministry of Buddhasasana is interested only in issuing orders to clear container containing drugs from Customs Department than protecting Buddhism. Are you looking for a profitable job at the ministry? Honest, descent and Buddha’s real followers needn’t apply.
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Real Siva Sankaran Sarma / October 11, 2016
Hi Sinhala Banda or Bandra who is descended from Tamil Pandarar from south India,
Take look at all your cousins in Tamil Nadu
http://www.tamilmatrimony.com/community/pandaram-matrimonial
You may find brides and grooms from your close relatives in Tamil Nadu
Sinhala Panda
Once your ancestors migrated from Tamil Nadu to the island Pandaran Pandara became Banda Bandara. Pandara Nayakan became Bandaranayake.
Hindu Tamil Pandarar serving in the temples all changed to Sinhalese Buddhist Banda Bandara now clamouring to destroy Hinduism and force Buddhism down everyone’s throats. How people change just by migrating
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justice / October 11, 2016
Sri Lanka is not YET in the list of countries which have State Religion, as it has NOT been declared as such.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_religion
Hence, are we are still secular?
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Sinhala Banda / October 11, 2016
We have been denied the right to declare our motherland as a Buddhist Country since the untimely death of Hon. D.S.Senanayake. We the Buddhists have been kept divided by the Anglican Christian leaders and their traditions. Now we have another minority; Muslims have joined Anglican Christians to deny our birthright.
The time has come for the Buddhists to forget the dubious political leaders and elect one of their own as a true leader.
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◉ Upul Tilakaratna ? / October 12, 2016
“”We have been denied the right to declare our motherland as a Buddhist Country since the untimely death of Hon. D.S.Senanayake. “”
BUUUD GUUUD,මැර කල්ලි,(hoodlums)
Les Misérables , Head up a ass Monstrous Mouse,
He was not the only man who negotiated for independance.
Most were free-thinkers,. No matter what their religious leanings, however, they fought for a secular state.
Pimbura-පිඹුරා is your lover.
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Sunil / October 13, 2016
Sinhala Banda, there are people like you in every religion and every nation stuck in this destructive mindset where you think the Religion/Language you subscribe to must dominate everyone else and be given special preference while you put everyone else around you down!! Listen to yourself you sound like these radical ISIS Al Qaeda types who want to create an Islamic state in a world that is turning into a multicultural one inclusive of people who subscribe to various cultures and religions.
Your Religion is a personal thing you subscribe to for whatever reason the same way others subscribe to another religion or none. Sure there are going to be conflicting views and oppositions.
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jim softy / October 11, 2016
Christians have destroyed Catholics. they are fighting with muslims. They want to destroy buddhism in Sri lanka.
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Native Vedda / October 12, 2016
Sinhala Pandaranayakam
“SRI LANKA IS A BUDDHIST country.”
What is a Buddhist country?
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Uthungan / October 11, 2016
Clauses iv,v and vi, are the important clauses recommended by the Public Representations Committee and TNA’s spokesperson has merely articulated that.
If that is in contradiction with what the PM has said at the Sedawatte Weragoda Temple in Kolonawa then that is a serious matter of public concern and for debate.
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KA Sumanasekera / October 11, 2016
Batalnada Ranil is telling fibs, according to TNA Abraham…Right.
I believe Abraham because the former is very good at that..Just for example, Mattala Rice Ware House, One Million Jobs assembling Volks Wagons, Free WIFI..are the most recent.
I don’t want to wast time about the past fibs.
To more pressing issues, this Tamil national Alliance TNA which is the successor to Pirahaparan.s LTTE Tiger Party is about to get what Pira fought for three decades.
Batalanada Ranil’s fibs are part and parcel of the Yahapalana plot to give Jaffna Tamils their Eelaam under a Federal Constitution.
The Constitutional Model which the TNA supplied to Batalanda Ranil with their set of rules, specifically ask for Buddhism to be expunged.
What Abraham has done is just reiterate that pre requisite.
Batalanada Ranil can not weave his way out of it, although the Reverend Sinhala Cardinal even objected to Batalanada fiddling with Religions when writing his new Constitution.
Abraham needn’t worry Batalanada will keep his promises.
Now Btalanada even goes to Veragaoada Vihara. And offer Pirikara and pour Holy water with Marrickkar, while the Nayaka thero chants Pirith to bless both.
Batalanada didn’t promise not to expunge Buddhism, All he said was he is going to protect Theravada Buddhism by deed. And he is going to organise a Theravada Talk Feast as early as next year.
And promised to give us Theravada Buddhism like we have never seen before, along side Yahapalanaya,
That was in his address to the Gathering after the Offering .
Already the first half of next year is crammed with these watershed moments, starting with the
– Referendum for Going Federal to give Abraham the Eelaam,
– Theravada Buddhist Convocation,
– And elimination of Poverty Exhibition and the Diaspora World Expo which Samaraweeran promised to hold last year.
No wonder Batalanada Ranil can’t find time for Local Council Elections.
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Lone Wolf / October 11, 2016
Sumanthiran,
“Our stand is that there should be a secular constitution”
Thank God! I pray that this will be true on day. Let us make all government schools and other public institutions secular also. A library, for instance, is a library not a kovil.
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21st century Homo Sapien / October 11, 2016
Defining Sri Lanka as a Secular state, is like defining if one is Pregnant. Either you are Pregnant or you are Not Pregnant. You cannot be half-pregnant.
Either you are a SECULAR STATE where government and religion is completely separated, or a NON-SECULAR STATE where there is government support for religion. That is the very meaning of the term SECULAR STATE.
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Spring Koha / October 11, 2016
The Government of Sri Lanka will do well to allow ALL Religions to manage their own affairs and not be associated with the sordid business of our politics.
Buddhism, I am sure, will be able to conduct its own affairs without the sordid association with our politicians.
Whither the day when our citizens vote with their heads, and chose their representatives on merit and capability, rather than religion and/or patronage.
Any new constitution should work towards secular goals.
The Sangha should keep their hands off the testicles of any future secular government.
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old codger / October 12, 2016
The Govt. should stop interfering in Education too (apart from the syllabus). Let the religions run their own schools/universities the way they want. If Buddhists want to get into Christian schools, let them.It might be the first step in improving the quality of Sinhala-Buddhism.
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cholan / October 11, 2016
Wow beginning of ISIS style Buddhism organization next step will be building Buddhist temples everywhere even near toilets….
Buddhism offshoot of Hinduism is not a religion but a philosophy but since 1948 this Buddhism is being commercialized and prostituted in this cursed land for the benefit of Sinhala politicians .
There should be a vertical archeological excavation on all Buddhist sites in this country to find out the truth.
Allowing this religious fanatics is the reason for many blood baths in this cursed land .
Cheers
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Rajan Hoole / October 11, 2016
The question of federalism can wait. But that of a secular Lanka cannot wait if we want the new constitution to strike out towards a future free of conflict.
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Hamlet / October 11, 2016
Rajan Hoole, Agreed:
What has Religion got to do with Politics?
Because Religion has been used by Politicians to gain Votes, the whole concept of Religion has been Prostituted!
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Ajith / October 11, 2016
Hamlet,
What a chiili question is this? Buddhism is the politics of Srilanka. If No Buddhism, no politics in Srilanka. Buddhism allows our Srilankans to do do all crimes against humanity. The crime against humanity is to save Buddhism. Poor Buddha in the hands of Srilankan politicians.
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Walter Adams / October 11, 2016
Ham_let, is a marrakele underneath that skin.
Even in the UK the die hard muslims do not want the secularism and Queen removed because they lose the freedom and liberty that their sharia law nations do not offer.
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Hamlet / October 12, 2016
Walter Adams. sorry.
I am not a ‘marrakele’ but a Sinhalese and a Buddhist, who is trying to follow the Buddha’s Path!
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Walter Adams / October 12, 2016
we seen it we heard it before maraka_le like Sylvia Hayek
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Walter Adams / October 12, 2016
“who is trying to follow the Buddha’s Path!
first learn to know yourself that is true wisdom.
knowing others is intelligence.
later you can think about mastering.
“What has Religion got to do with Politics?”
Both speak about morals.
Both sandwich the truth with lies and more lies by
playing to the emotions of humans.
“whole concept of Religion has been Prostituted! “
religion is only a vehicle for humbugs of faith.
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Mallaiyuran / October 12, 2016
Don’t misunderstand the Coolies. This coolie is not talking about constitution. He is talking about saving the Uduvil Hoolie Family Convent.
It is the Hakeem, Ashar principle. Hakeem said Tamils show the beggar wound to beg and live. Ashar said Tamils should have done their Sunneth first before talk for Muslims. Then they negotiated underhand deals with Old King and brought funds from Wahabi SA to create Wahhabism in Lankawe. Same theory with Cardinals Malcolm’s Buddhist only constitution in exchange for family favours. They all are same material, same size, same style dresses, but different colors. Anti-human souls!
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Rajash / October 11, 2016
Ajith “What a chiili question is this”
you are right. This is a hot topic.
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Walter Adams / October 12, 2016
The `constipated constitution`can’t be Hot?
Sinha_le+ Demal_le+Marrkak_le
(Sh*t Different Mouths)seated on cricket balls and
don’t like the proven LKY banana treatment.
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Mallaiyuran / October 12, 2016
You comedy is after your own goals with the blood shed by Tamils. Tamils have not elected TNA on the last election only for having secured a constitution, but for “Internal Self Determination”. Once their area is demarcated, they will decide for that area whether they want a Secular Sneak in Catholic Constitution to save Uduvil Girls College or secular constitution or religious constitution. You can bark anything you want. That is freedom of speech, entire Tamil nation agree on that. Now Sumanthiran understands that going below what Tamil asked for is going against Tamils. So he has responsibly replied to the 21st Century Fox’s cunning statement. But not in the popper angle. It is another discussion. Yes you and your gang is very active in sabotaging the benefits that Tamils gained by shedding the blood by impose another Sinhala Only Constitution.
Your wording of “future free of conflict” is with your own interpretation. You are trying to say Sinhala only came because of Tamils Wanted to keep Uduvil Girls School. Your narrow minded focus has to stay out of constitution making. You are a dominant element supporting making a constitution to avoid the UN investigation on the war crime. An honest constitution making process can come into exist only after Sinhala Leadership is investigated on the a court of international law and instructed they are biased on every angle of the human life, Man-woman, Tamil-Sinhala, Kandy-low, Buddhist- not Buddhist, poor-Rich, village-town, Phd – common sense, …. You name it, these crowds are thing they are superior on one ground so all others have to obey to them and surrender to their whimsies. Secular constitution, if whole heartedly implemented, can allow funding to Catholic schools come from rich western nation, but cannot cure the problem of two countries forcefully fused into one. Superiority complex is existing in the mind of the Sinhala Leaders and the tails of them. They falsely dream that they are great.
First Important is not another Soulbury constitution and keep reverting back and forth. Tamils have to have their right to be established to practice and reject religion. You fool have to understand the right to practice religion is the value underneath the secular principle, not the sneak idea of saving Uduvil. You have not produce one single reason why the Tamils’ right to live on this land should be suspended for ever but the your eager to save Unduvil Girls College should precede.
Sumanthiran should stop answering to Ranil on the narrow focus of competing and winning for an election debate with Ranil. He should establish a long term project to redeem Tamils from their suffering using the blood shed by them. He should not be fooled by this game of constitution making to sabotage the UNHRC investigation. If he can not heed to the commonsense talk, but had bought another un-implementable (instead of 13A or 13+, 13++…… or a 13A Secular, he still will face the Tamils in the north. He will be answering of what happened to manifesto, which was drafted by him to Provincial Council Election and promised internal self-determination.
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?frankistine / October 11, 2016
“”Sumanthiran Contradicts Ranil’s Claim That All Parties Agreed To Give Buddhism Foremost Place In New Constitution””
We know better than politicians of all hues and colours with regards to the separation of faith and state.
◉When a religion is good, it will support itself.
◉When a religion is bad one it call for the help of the civil power.
Religion is an emotion, as opposed to a rational thought process.
The unquestioned acceptance of information that is either unverified or that may actually be in conflict with factual evidence.
◉Like crusaders from the same race Religion is the incubator of sri lankan wars .
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cholan / October 11, 2016
Who is the threat to this Buddhism ? from Where?
There is no limit for the greedy of these Malwattha and Asgiriya Ayotullahs
Already Ramakrishna Hall in Katargama built with the funds from Hindus is taken by Buddhist Ayotullahs once this institution provided free food to all ..today Tamils can’t even go near .
Many many Madams which gave lodgings to Katargama pilgrimages for 100 years all bulldozed .
Whats else these Buddhist Ayotullahs want more ?
Why these shameless Sinhala politicians still dance for the tunes of these Ayotulahs living in stone age ? Simply for votes.
This cursed land will always weep for generations .
Cheers
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Kettikaran / October 11, 2016
The marriage of State and Religion in secular societies is followed by blood and mayhem. It is up to the Buddhist hierarchy to inform the government they are agreeable for the treatment of all religions equally. After all, the fact that there are more Buddhists in the country (75%?)cannot be and is not challenged. Why rub it in?
Kettikaran
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Plato. / October 11, 2016
…..The question of federalism can wait.But that of a secular lanka cannot wait
if we want the new constitution to strike out towards a future free of conflict….Says Rajan Hoole-a committed Christian.
My question is,if the foremost place given to Buddhism,as per Chapter2 para 9 is removed will Srilanka be free of [ethnic] conflict?
Should not Federalism[or whatever terminology is used] be the priority?
My take on this issue is that Buddhists will rather gladly agree for FULL FEDERALISM rather than to part with the foremost place given to Buddhism!
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Backlash / October 11, 2016
The Clause giving Buddhism the foremost place was arrogantly incorporated into Colvin’s 1972 Constitution that was ratified with the Tamils – the largest minority – boycotting the proceedings. It is believed Colvin was forced to do this by Mrs. B and her inside coterie with the only desire of winning the larger Buddhist votes in a country where both the two major parties usually share votes around 30/35% each. Besides, that was a period in our political history when Mrs.B’s government was patently anti-Tamil. Contemporary historians apportion blame entirely on Mrs.B’s rule for exacerbating the ethnic divide.It was not done for the love of Buddhism.
The device has since been an object of division among the secular population. The new Constitution is an opportunity to make good amends.
If a Survey is taken among Catholics they will almost all vote for the equality of religions exposing Cardinal Malcolm Ranjith is a political animal working against the interest of local Catholics.
Backlash
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jim softy / October 12, 2016
Church is a joke.
Almighty uses devotees. Dumb devotees get caught. In case of the christian Church, church pastor exploites devotees to collect the cash pot for his income.
It is not almighty that provides your needs. YOu need to know how to live in the society.
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Mahesan / October 11, 2016
This Sumo Kathigama says different things to different audiences. To Geneva, to US, to Parliament, to the Diaspora and to the people in the North East. A Snake.
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cholan / October 11, 2016
Even Indonesia the largest Muslim country in the world also Egypt…Turkey another 2 big Muslim nations are secular states …the founders and currents rulers of these nations never bend for the crazy mullahs.
But in this cursed SL Sinhala politicians are kowtow to Asgiriya and Malwatha Ayathullahs what a shame.?
This country is going to bleed for ever…
Cheers
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jim softy / October 11, 2016
I wrote a comment to this article. Tamil-christian Editors of CT did not publish it.
Sumanthiran is promoting Thiestic religions here.
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frankistine / October 11, 2016
Cannibal,
Perhaps its to do with Bali thovil and going back to the world of Brutes.
Get off your PC head up ass PC is invented by America/UK land of humans.
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Sellam / October 11, 2016
Mr.Sumanthiran! You are pathetic.
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Saman Adikari / October 12, 2016
TNA IS AN OLD AGENDA AND ROAD MAP OF TAMIL EEALM OF SEPERATISM STATE OF NORTH FOR TAMILS & EAST FOR MUSLIM REGIME BY INSTALLED PUPPET REGIME IN THE PART OF ISLAND.
THEY SEEK DISSOLUATION SRI LANKA STATE BY CHANGING PROPOSED “NEW CONSTITUTION” BACK BY TNA, LTTE, DIASPORE OF TMAILS, JVP AND LED BY UNP-RANIL W… MS AND THE FEDRRALIST CBK OF TAMIL DECEDENT.
WHAT EVER SAID AND DONE TNA IS FOR GREATER TAMIL RIGIONAL REGIME IN SOUTH ASAIN REGION.
The majority Sinhalese-Buddhist for the Democratic are an opposed that move by Tamil terrorism and separatism.
But Tamils are for Terrorism not only Sri Lanka and World wide and Sinhalese are opposed world terrorism by that Tamil of Tamil Nadu Indian denied Democracy by support of TNA.
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bandito / October 12, 2016
Saman Adikari ,
SriMao legacy: The first form of terror was from south JVP – backed by North Korea
But sinha _le is working in asia via Kim Jong-un for Xi.
Buddhist Boa constrictors.
Yakoo, What id Dr Daya upto? cheek to cheek cheap piece of shit.
Why are the americans and UN pushing the Royingas to Burma and why did BBS get banned soon while it took LTTE 30 years.
you are doomed to disaster to live a Marakk_le since you have Royinga/Bengali genes.
Enjoy the harami Harem.
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Real Siva Sankaran Sarma / October 13, 2016
How can the east be for the Muslims when the largest community in the east still are the Tamils, despite large scale killing and ethnic cleansing. If the Tamil refugees from India return the east will have a Tamil majority again, as the vast majority of them are from the Trincomalee region. Also if you take the Sinhalese majority Amparai electorate and the Gomarankadawela division from the Trincocallee out of the east and join them with the neighbouring Sinhalese districts, thereby taking 95% of the Sinhalese from the eastern heartland, the Tamils and not the Muslims will be the majority in the east again. The Muslims are only able to rule the east because of the support obtained from the Sinhalese settlers, if this support is not there, it will be the Tamils who are the rightful owners of the east who will be ruling. The Sinhalese jus to spite the Tamils are denying them their historical right to the east and nurturing a basically fundamentalist future Wahhabi Muslim land in the east, that is has no right to be there and is now busy marginalising and displacing the indigenous Tamils and Tamilised veddah of the east. The Muslims only came to the east as refugees and now thanks to illegal Sinhalese settlement and support are trying to take over the east from the Tamils. The east from ancient prehistoric times has been Tamil and Hindu. All the ancient historic sites in the east are Tamil Saivite or Tamil Buddhist. Nothing Muslim or Sinhalese.
The Sinhalese can never take over the east or north despite all their colonisation schemes. All they are trying to do is deny the indigenous Tamils of the north and east justice and right to their land, thereby allowing another more dangerous religious immigrant group from South India that only arrived in the east a few centuries ago as immigrants, to take over and create a future nightmare for the entire region. A very short sighted move that will ultimately backfire
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Siva Sankaran Sarma- 3 / October 12, 2016
“”Sumanthiran Contradicts Ranil’s Claim That All Parties Agreed To Give Buddhism Foremost Place In New Constitution””
According to the royal website, her primary role is as a “focus of national unity”. Chief of all forces who advices the nation of stupid politicians to refrain from waging war.
The Sinhale Buddhist All party SriMao republic got rid of alliance thereby the citizen lost all rights. The Authority became the truth not truth itself.
No wonder an admirer of Vasu the Vampire family.
Working class boy has taken the political opportunity for yet another `one night stand` to capture the limelight knowing fully well he would not be heard. When he saw K. N. Choksy, PC, alongside Basil speak against 43rd Chief Justice he knew too well he had lost the debate. Even Asoka H (Let Her Cry- 2016 film) knows the game Choksy plays unlike Nani P.
Sinha Le Dr Daya W is already a crusader for Buddha weekly a clandestine Tibetan website run by CPC boasting that Buddhism is the second largest faith at 1.6 billion when it is less than ½ billion and a little over 50 % of world Buddhist lives at China. The idea is to fight both crusaders of Asia Christian and Muslim kill the half-baked Hindus-
`One people One Asia` where you are given a weekly dose of what and how to think. Maoism on the rise outside of China and carried out by petty minded Naxalite’s of village roots Lankan’s.
The closer you get the more you like to run away because you are human.
Only Ebola can stop the rot and robots take over.
The tech is available in the west.
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nimal / October 12, 2016
Religion is a private affair and if this country ever to be at peace with itself then the state should not support any religion over the others.
Why do our politicians keep visiting the prelates when they should on their job and in fact they must visit the people and get their blessings.
Get on with your jobs we say to the politicians and don’t fool your selves and us with the religious mambo jumbo.We are not at all impressed to say the least.
I could donate my suit to the President if he hasn’t got a proper dress for this time and age.
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cholan / October 12, 2016
Why these jokers first try to convert Sinhala Catholics to Buddhism ….? What prevent them ?
May be these clowns are afraid that VATICAN will shout .
Cheers
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