4 October, 2022

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Tamil Diaspora Group Calls On Sri Lanka To Establish A ‘Ministry For Overseas Sri Lankan Affairs’

A Tamil diaspora group urged the Sri Lankan Government to establish a ‘Ministry for Overseas Sri Lankan affairs’.

The Non Resident Tamils of Sri Lanka (NRTSL) a group lobbying to promote the interests of Non-Resident Tamils of Sri Lankan origin in the UK organised a event to launch their cause on the 31st of May 2015. This event took place at the Barn Hill Community Centre, Hayes, Middlesex. 

The meeting was chaired by the interim Chairman of the association V. Sivalingam. Barry Gardiner MP was also present.

Following is the text of the speech by one of its founder members, Shanthan Thamba, outlining the objectives of the organisation.

NRTSL Panel

Good Evening!

Our guest of honour Right honourable Barry Gardener MP

Friends, Ladies and gentlemen

First of all I would like to welcome you all once again on behalf of the NRTSL for making this effort to be here this evening. I know how precious Sunday evening is, and I appreciate that extra effort that you made to be here today. We will try our best not to disappoint you.

I must also thank my colleagues and the founder members of the NRTSL for giving me this opportunity to outline the objectives and the vision of the NRTSL.

I will try to do this as best as I can; within the time I was given.

I am aware that all of you have a fairly wide ranging understanding and experience of the Tamil expatriate social and political scene here in the UK.

The objective of this meeting today is to share with you the origins of the idea of the NRTSL and also to listen to your valuable opinions and contributions to further develop this concept.

Those who are here today are all invited by the founder members of the NRTSL. In our opinion…. you are all active in the community in different spheres and also have a desire to move our community forward.

I must also say that the NRTSL is still in its formative stage and the direction and the effectiveness of it will be influenced and shaped by your inputs and positive contributions.

In other words this is an opportunity for us to tell you what we are trying to achieve.

More importantly we would like to listen to your views about this idea and also your suggestions about how to move forward.

Friends Ladies and gentlemen

Let me begin with defining the context in which we thought of working together as Non Resident Tamils of Sri Lanka.

You will all agree that the Tamil diaspora in the UK is a robust, dynamic and an upwardly mobile community. It is estimated that there are more than 300 thousand Tamils live here. They make significant contributions to the UK economy.

They are respected for their hard work and professionalism. They are well integrated within their local communities. I am sure this will continue for generations to come.

As much as we are proud of our British identity we are equally proud of our identity as Tamils… Sri Lankan Tamils.

We in Britain are living in a multicultural society. We know each and every community maintain their socio, political and economic links with their country of origin.

The degree of involvement may vary but still everyone maintain their links with their country of origin.

The host countries also recognise and encourage these links. These links are also seen as one of the important part of building bilateral relationship between countries.

The fact that the Rt. hon. British Prime Minister summoned members of the Tamil community to number 10 to hear their point of view before he visited Sri Lanka; is a manifestation of this understanding.

The main opposition Labour Party’s public pronouncements expressing concerns about Sri Lanka is also another indicator of this trend.

The frequent meetings the Foreign and Commonwealth Office have with representatives of Sri Lankan Tamils including with us NRTSL; also illustrates how keen they are to engage with the diaspora.

What I am trying to say here is; that the present day diaspora activism in reality has new dimensions. The host countries’ attitude and enthusiasm to engage with the diaspora communities is seen as an integral part of international relations.

These changing perceptions are not confined to Tamil or Sri Lankan diaspora. This is a general trend.

The globalisation along with the larger movement of population from country to country and continent to continent all contributes to the growth and enrichment of the diaspora communities in the west.

This trend is most likely to continue in the coming decades.

It is important for the community and social leaders like you; like us all… to understand the new context in which we are operating.

It is important for us to find ways to manage these new realities in order to benefit our communities. This is the wider context in which we are thinking of working.

Ladies and gentlemen

Now let me move on to the origin and how the idea of NRTSL was born:

The word Tamil diaspora is to some extent stigmatised by the attitudes of Tamil and Sinhala extremists. I am only talking about perceptions.

At present ‘Tamil diaspora’ can sometimes be projected as a hostile entity to the national interests in the mainstream Sri Lankan media and also by some influential Sri Lankan political leaders.

We think that the ‘Sri Lankan Government versus the Tamil diaspora’ approach is fundamentally flawed. This perception in our view is one of the main causes that prevent positive engagement for progress.

There is a need to recalibrate the relationship between communities in order to break out of this stagnant mind set.

The phrase Non Resident Tamils of Sri Lanka is an attempt to articulate our identity as well as break out of the present perceptions of diaspora mind set.

We are also inspired by the constructive role played by the Non Resident Indian Organisations and the institutional mechanisms and arrangements created by the Indian state to harness the expatriate resources.

In short this is the beginning of the idea and the name of the organisation.

Our motto ‘Engagement for Progress’

We as an organisation intend to engage with all the stake holders to explore the ways in which we could work together to achieve our objectives and make progress for our community.

When we say all the stake holders we mean different organisations working in the UK, all political parties in the UK and in Sri Lanka.

We also intend to further strengthen our work with the international community and institutions that are engaged in Sri Lanka to bring peace, stability and reconciliation.

Ladies and gentlemen

Let me finally explain our objectives and targets that we would like to achieve. These are specific, measurable and achievable goals. We do not think that these are easily achievable; we do not underestimate the enormity of the targets we set for ourselves.

The only way these goals can be realised is that many people understand and join hands with us to strengthen the work we set out to do.

Our targets are:

Lobbying for the establishment of a ‘Ministry of overseas Sri Lankans’ or to start with a ‘Department for Overseas Sri Lankans’ to engage with the non-resident Sri Lankans

Continue to campaign for equitable, transparent and efficient institutional arrangements for granting of Dual citizenship for anyone who desires.

Campaign for the recognition of the special status of second, third, fourth generation children similar to that granted for overseas Indians in India.

Campaign for:

Clear policies and encouragement to invite non-resident investors and professionals to participate in the task of Nation building

Attractive and efficient banking procedure and facilities to increase foreign currency flow through state banking institutions

Legal right to purchase land, houses, retirement homes, holiday homes and also to inherit properties

It is needless to say that these objectives can only be realised by the collective will and effort of all of us. This also requires commitment and hard work over a long period of time.

In our view this is a gathering of well -meaning and resourceful people who can make a change.

Today we call upon you all to give your candid opinion on our approach and become part of the NRTSL to work towards achieving these goals.

Thank you

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    These people are lunatics! They want the Sri Lanka Government (t o whom they give no help or support) to establish a separate Ministry, dual citizenship (with eelam also, if you please), rights to buy land (very easy, with the larger holdings they have abroad, but the locals can sell and go where?)

    I know there will be many “red” thumbs down but does this idea help, in the long term for reconciliation?

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      India has similar ministry and here is its objective. I guess at east 8% of Sri Lankan origin people living in West who have migrated as economic or political refugees in the last 30 years, as a percentage this is huge, so following objectives matches to SL too.
      Ministry of Overseas Indian Affairs
      In this increasingly inter-dependent and inter-connected world, Overseas Indians are becoming ‘Global Citizens’. Even so, our shared culture and shared values bond all of us together.
      The Indian Diaspora is a pluralistic community just as India is. It holds within its fold, people of different languages, faiths and regions. The spirit of India transcends the narrow barriers of religion, language, caste or class, both within and outside the Indian nation.

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        Does the Indian Diaspora subscribe to a Transnational Govt?
        Is the Indian Diaspora attempting to split up India?

        These are two questions that needs an answer if India is to be compared with Sri Lanka as suggested by Alahakoon.

        Foreigners can own property in Sri Lanka but they have to pay a 100% tax to do so.

        The above is only a one time tax but does not ensure the development of the property after the purchase. Hence SL should look at the case of absentee foreign Landlords who do not contribute to the SL economy on a continuous basis and impose an annual tax that will discourage such absentee foreign Landlords.

        It is reported that only a handful of families have resettled in 6258 acres of land released in Palaly alone, out of a total 19,159 acres released by the govt since 2012 in the North. The major part of that land is lying dormant in the hands of absentee landlords (ref report in page A3, Daily Mirror 11 June 2015, today).

        Citizenship provides access to welfare services provided by govt to her citizens. Those who reside in Lanka and those who carry SL passports, continuously contribute to the economy by way of taxes both direct and indirect and remittances. Hence they are the people who pay for the welfare services such as free Education, free Health etc. They are also the people who pay for all the Development that the govt undertakes. What is the justification for extending those services and facilities to a foreigner by making that foreigner a citizen?

        Other than this attempt to get a waiver of the 100% tax on foreign property ownership, is there anything else the SL Embassies cannot service?

        That said it is an eye opener to see the very people who claim instant death and torture if deported to SL, seeking govt facilitation to purchase Properties in SL for investment and retirement.

        Kind regards,
        OTC

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          You are a Sinhala racist, and therefore unable to understand.
          Absence of war does not mean peace.
          There cannot be peace without Justice.
          In countries which had similar problems like Bangalsesh, East Timor, South Sudan or Bosnia, peace arrived only after justice was meted out.
          In South Africa reconciliation started only after justice was done.
          In Srilanka justice has not reached Tamils though token gestures are being made and vacant promises are being given to hoodwink the world.
          Tolerance by Tamils does not mean acceptance.
          In the case of Tamils it is an uneasy peace, being enforced on them.
          Tamils will never invest in Srilanka till peace is restored.
          Tamils will never be allowed to prosper under any Sinhala rule.
          Grant the rights for Tamils to rule themselves without interference.
          This is what the international community is asking to do.
          It is Sinhala racism that is preventing any fair settlement.
          Visit foreign countries and see how Tamils are prospering.

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            Another Tamil racist howling for the moon.

            Sri Lanka should never throw good money after bad trying to placate a group of people who hate Sri Lankans, Sinhala, Muslim and Tamil. Those who want to help the Sri Lankan kith and kin will do so of their own free will.

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              Ramuuuu

              “Sri Lanka should never throw good money after bad trying to placate a group of people who hate Sri Lankans,”

              You are right Sri Lanka shouldn’t throw good money after who hate Sri lanka.

              These people only love themselves and enrich their own clan. The money invested in promoting Sinhala/Buddhism (Ghetto Building)and the trust placed on the clan are two examples of good money being wasted by this country.

              Sinhalese, Muslims and Tamils will help this country only when the state stop building a Sinhala/Buddhist ghetto (the best place to hide corrupt, thieves, drug smugglers, war criminals, murderers, rapists, …..).

              Why would Sinhalese, Muslims and Tamils waste their hard earned money when the politicians and bureaucrats of institutions are bent on swindling half of the state’s coffer?

              Why would anyone in their right mind invest in this island when they are expected to part with 10 to 30% of the capital outlay in commissions to the siblings and hangers on?

              As another bigot patriot, you should first address rampant corruption, favoritism, nepotism, racism … in the state structure.

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              Dear Ram,

              The Tamil racist masquerading as a Vedda wants to draw a Red Herring to divert attention with his wisecracks,

              He too is looking for tax incentives and Dual C’s from Lanka (read his comments June 10, 2015 at 3:22 am, June 9, 2015 at 1:21 pm)

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            Dear Raja,

            You have failed to address ANY of the points I have raised in my comment. Please take some time to read it before your next response.

            I note that you are trying to indulge in Racist propaganda by spreading lies.
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            You wrote “Tamils will never invest in Srilanka till peace is restored. Tamils will never be allowed to prosper under any Sinhala rule”
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            That is a FOOLISH statement in the light of the NRTSL’s stated objectives here. It is also a LIE that will get exposed when anyone researches SL’s Business Community.

            Sri Lanka is near 75% Sinhalese and that is a Fact.
            If the Sinhalese are Nationalistic or Racist all democratically elected Southern politicians would have been exclusively Sinhalese. We would then be having even Bhumiputra laws as in Malaysia but we don’t.

            Tamils are elected from Sinhala majority electorates. The Late Minister Jayaraj Fernadopulle who was a Tamil Catholic is a case in point. Can you name a Sinhalese elected from a Tamil majority electorate in the North?

            Why don’t you have multi ethnic political parties in the NORTH? Why are Northern Political Parties Race centric?

            Any elected govt in Sri Lanka will definitely have a Sinhala majority. It is a fact of demography.

            The UK has Indians and other Non whites in parliament. But the elected govt will definitely have an English majority. It is a fact of demography too.
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            But UK, which has a State Religion, prohibits by LAW, a Roman Catholic Prime Minister. That is a fact of Law.
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            You will not be able to find a parallel disability imposed by Law in Sri Lanka.

            The Northern and Eastern Provinces of SL has a total land area of 4,665,350 Acres. The vast majority of that is UNINHABITED PUBLIC LAND. It is 30% of the area of SL. It also embraces over 60% of Lanka’s coast.

            The Tamils living within the above area is 7.85% of Lanka’s Total population.

            The Tamil United Liberation Front, in it’s election manifesto of July 1977 claimed the Northern and Eastern Provinces as EXCLUSIVE TAMIL LAND (long before Black July).
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            That Raja is RACISM.
            It underlines the Tamil Greed for Land.
            It has been and Still is, the Real Reason that prevents Reconciliation, nothing else.

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            PUBLIC LAND is the property of ALL Sri Lankans.
            It must be used for the benefit of ALL. Not just HALF the Tamil population when the other half resides outside it in the South amongst the Sinhalese.

            It is the GREATEST POLITICAL Land Grab since Independence.
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            The day the Northern Tamils drop that Racist greedy claim, RECONCILIATION will happen painlessly.
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            Kind Regards,
            OTC

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              Dear OTC,
              Demanding ones right is not racism, but denying the right of another is racism. By advocating the denial of the rights of Tamils, giving lies and half truths you have proved to be a racist. There is enough land for Sinhala need but not enough land for Sinhala greed. Please visit foreign countries like UK and Canada, and see for yourself how the Tamils are prospering.This is because there is peace with equality to both Tamils and Sinhalese and no violence unleashed on Tamils by Sinhalese.

              Srilanka does not belong to Sinhalese or Tamils, both are immigrants. The Aryan myth of the Sinhala propaganda has been blown to pieces by the recent genetic study conducted by Colombo Medical Faculty, that the gene pool in both Sinhalese and Tamils are mainly South Indian. therefore Tamils have the same right to claim land as much as the Sinhalese. The correct thing for Srilanka is unity in diversity. Unfortunately since independence, the successive governments tried to create a mono ethnic mono religious Srilanka which led to the conflict. Until and unless Sinhalese give up this idea, there will be no reconciliation.

              Of the ancient people, those in northern, north-western and north-eastern areas have been assimilated into the Tamil race, while those in western, southern and central areas have been assimilated into the Sinhalese race. Of the Veddhas, while some are still continuing to maintain their tradition, those in the central areas have become Sinhalese while those in the eastern coast have become Tamils.

              These Tamilised descendants of Veddhas living in east from Sampoor to Kumana are the legitimate owners of eastern province and not Sinhalese, Muslims or even the other Tamils like Mukkuwars. Veddhas worshipped God Murugan with a temple in Kataragama. It is well known that only people in the world who worship God Murugan are Tamils, demonstrating that there was an association between these Veddhas and Tamils.

              The oldest religious place of worship in eastern province is Koneswaram Temple, which has been sung in praise by a saint in Tamilnadu who lived in the 07th century who had never visited but heard of its glory. This is one of the five pre-Buddhist Shiva temples in Srilanka. There have unearthed stone inscriptions in Trincomalee, showing Tamil presence.

              Eastern province was demarcated by British for their administrative convenience. There are ancient Sinhala villages such as Gomarankadawela in Trincomalee district and Lahugala in Amparai district which had been incorporated into it. However the current boundaries of eastern province is the result of Srilanka government taking Mahaoya and Padiyatalawa DRO divisions out of Uva and linking to eastern province in order to create a Sinhala Majority Amparai district.

              It is the Sinhala racists who have created problem in eastern province. They wanted to take away the Tamil majority by planned large state aided colonization of Sinhalese. The census of past years is a proof, where Sinhalese who were only 2% in Trincomalee district and 5% in eastern province at the turn of the century, became 30% in Trincomalee district and 25% in eastern province by 1981. Tamils who were 65% in Trincomalee district and 55% in eastern province reduced to 35% & 42% respectively.

              Now due to murder and ethnic cleansing carried out by the Srilanka government under the guise of the war with LTTE, Tamils have become a minority. Deliberate change of demography is an act of racism. If the Tamils had lived along 60% of the coast of Srilanka for centuries, it is not their fault and to deny them their land is racism. Tamil demand for north-east merger (minus Amparai electorate) is absolutely fair. If any Sinhalese object to this they are standing in the way of justice. Your statement that TULF wanted it as an exclusive Tamil Land is a blatant lie. Even Prabaharan had stated that his future Ealam will be secular.

              You are conveniently hiding the ancient civilsation in Puttalam area, where urn burial sites have been discovered at Kudiraimalai. The oldest religious place of worship in Puttalam district is Munneswaram, one of the five pre-Buddhist Shiva temples. Also names of places in Puttalam electorate are in Tamil showing ancient Tamil presence. Thus the rant of Sinhala racists that one third of the island and two thirds of the coast are being claimed by Tamils does not hold water.

              The oft repeated statement that 50% of Tamils are living in the south with Sinhalese is only half truth. 90% of Tamils living in the south are of recent Indian origin. Also Tamils in south are living under Sinhala rule, while in the North Sinhalese are not living under Tamil rule. Tamils in the south never murdered Sinhalese or burnt their properties or planting Hindu statues at junctions, changing Sinhala names of places to Tamil, like what Sinhalese living in Tamil area have done. Remove Sinhala rule from Tamil areas and restore Tamil rule, and then there will be no objection to Sinhalese settling there.

              I would like to bring to your notice about an inscription in Koneswaram temple which had forecast the fate of the temple. According to it we are in the last stage of atrocity occupied by Senkannan (? Sinkalavan), from whom it will be liberated and restored to Vadugar (? Tamils / ? North Indians). It can happen peacefully by the Sinhalese agreeing to share territory and power with the Tamils or by force from outside if they refuse. Let us wait and see.

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                Dear Raja and the Tamil masquerading as a Vedda,
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                The reason that I have included the Masked man is to give him an opportunity to refute what I write. In the past, his nudity was exposed whenever he directly challenged my comments. The reason he is afraid to do so now.
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                Re “Demanding ones right is not racism, but denying the right of another is racism”
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                Agreed.
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                Re “By advocating the denial of the rights of Tamils, giving lies and half truths you have proved to be a racist”
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                I am sorry but you are putting the Cart before the Horse. You have to prove your contention BEFORE you can arrive at a conclusion.
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                I can very easily say that you are an escaped LTTE Terrorist but without proof, that would be idiotic. Likewise until you prove that I lied or have written half truths and have advocated the denial of Tamil Rights, it would be IDIOTIC to call me a racist.
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                So far you have not proved ANYTHING, hence it would be wise not to be rash and rush in. Fools rush in where angels fear to tread said Alexander Pope.
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                You said “Srilanka does not belong to Sinhalese or Tamils, both are immigrants”
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                That is a PRIMARY mistake that most Tamils make.
                Both are not immigrants.
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                There is no Indigenous Sinhala population in India hence they could not have come from India. There is no Indigenous Sinhala Population ANYWHERE else in the WORLD. Hence they could not have come from anywhere else either. They are Children of Lanka.
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                The OLDEST skeletal remains of homo sapiens in South Asia was discovered in Lanka (37,000 YBP). The Sinhalese have a history of only a fraction of that. Hence the Sinhalese cannot lay exclusive claim to Lanka as her original inhabitants. Nevertheless they are Children of Lanka and NOT that of India or anywhere else.
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                The Parents of the Sinhalese are migrants from the Indian subcontinent and ancient Lankans. The Sinhalese EVOLVED in Lanka from these parents just as the Burghers EVOLVED in Lanka from European colonists and Lankan parents.
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                According to a recent genetic study “Mitochondrial DNA history of Sri Lankan ethnic people: their relations within the island and with the Indian subcontinental populations” November 2013,
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                All the Sinhalese and Tamil subgroups intermingle well with the majority of the Indian subcontinental populations, forming a large genetic matrix. However, Indian Tamils were separated from the rest of the Sri Lankan subgroups,……. on the first PC axis. This is further strengthening of the hypothesis that Indian Tamils are genetically distinct from the rest of the Sri Lankan ethnic groups.
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                Thus genetics indicate that Sinhalese and Lanka Tamils had Indian subcontinental ancestors. Surprisingly Lanka Tamils do not have any CLOSE genetic connection to Dravidian Tamils from SOUTH India (plantation Tamils). Are the Lanka Tamils Dravidian?
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                No definite association of the Sinhalese with any specific ethnic or linguistic groups of India was, however, detected in this study; thus, their exact immediate origin on the mainland remains yet to be confirmed. (ibid)
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                The closer association of the Up-country Sinhalese with the Sri Lankan Tamils than with the Indian Tamils is not in agreement with the geographic distances among them. (ibid)
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                Up country Sinhalese are geographically very remote from Lanka Tamils. Hence marriage between the two would be rare. Yet there is a close genetic link with the Sinhalese. Thus that connection should have come from ancestry.
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                If Lanka Tamils are Dravidian, they should have had a close Genetic link to the South Indian Tamils, who are Dravidian, but they do not have such a link.
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                Thus the Lanka Tamils have an IDENTITY crisis.
                Are they really Dravidian or are they Tamil speaking Sinhalese?

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                In India the faith of more than 80% of the people is Hinduism, considered the world’s oldest religious and philosophical system. Islam is practiced by around 13% of all Indians. (http://www.crystalinks.com/indiareligion.html)
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                The Hindu Religion therefore, is not a Tamil monopoly or a Regional monopoly
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                Sinhalese have Indian ancestors. Early Indian migrant parental population of the Sinhalese brought their religion and household/industrial paraphernalia to Lanka. Thus NATURALLY Hindu religious places would be built by them in Lanka.
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                Buddhism was introduced during the reign of King Devanampiya Tissa in the 3rd century BC by Indian Emperor Ashoka’s son. It arrived in Lanka after Hinduism did.
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                Thus finding OLD Hindu Kovils or ancient Hindu artifacts does not prove a Dravidian presence of that antiquity in Lanka.

                If you have any counter arguments to what I have stated already, please present them.

                I will be continuing from here in my next post.

                Kind Regards,
                OTC

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              OTC,

              Was’nt Tony Blair a catholic?

              Dr.RN

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                He wasn’t but he converted in order to marry his Catholic to marry his wife. Whether he exhibits any ‘Catholic’ characteristics of is another matter.

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                Dear Dr. RN,

                Not while he was the PM.
                Blair’s wife was a Catholic.
                After Blair gave up the PM ship he also became a Catholic.

                A Catholic cannot be a PM in the UK.
                The Law prohibits it.

                The prohibition extends beyond the PM to ANYONE that is required by duties of office to advise the Sovereign or Guardians of the UK or the Regent on matters concerning the Church.

                It’s similar to the prohibition on a Catholic becoming the Sovereign.

                Perhaps this may dispel your doubts.

                Roman Catholic Relief Act 1829 c. 7 (Regnal. 10_Geo_4)Section 18:

                It shall not be lawful for any person professing the Roman Catholic religion directly or indirectly to advise his Majesty, or any person or persons holding or exercising the office of guardians of the United Kingdom, or of regent of the United Kingdom, under whatever name, style, or title such office may be constituted, [F1or the lord lieutenant of Ireland], touching or concerning the appointment to or disposal of any office or preferment in the [F2Church of England], or in the Church of Scotland; and if any such person shall offend in the premises he shall, being thereof convicted by due course of law, be deemed guilty of a high misdemeanor, and disabled for ever from holding any office, civil or military, under the Crown.

                Note the Severe and Drastic Punishment prescribed.
                It is a Lifelong Prohibition from ANY employment in or under govt. Hence no one will dare to infringe it.

                Why? Simply for being a Catholic!
                That is Democracy in the UK!
                And it is being held up as a Model to be emulated!!!

                Kind Regards,
                OTC

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                  Dear OTC,
                  Thank you.

                  Dr.RN

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                    Dear Raja and the Tamil masquerading as a Vedda,

                    This is the second part of my response to your long comment of June 13, 2015 at 4:01 am. the third part would follow.

                    In my previous post of June 14, 2015 at 1:44 am, I argued the following,

                    1. The Sinhalese have EVOLVED in Lanka and hence are not imigrants.
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                    2. The Early parental population of the Sinhalese are from the Predominantly Hindu Indian Subcontinant (essentially Hindu) and the Indigenes of Lanka who were not Buddhists and may or may not have been Hindu.
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                    3. Thus during the evolution of the Sinhalese, their early religion would also be prdominantly Hindu (born to at least ONE Hindu parent).
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                    4. Thus during their evolution the major religion in Lanka for over half a millennium was Hinduism.
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                    5. Hence the presence of Hindu Temples or Kovils or Idols or any other artifact in ANY PART of Lanka is not proof of a Tamil presence but is proof of the original religion of the early Sinhalese.
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                    6. The conversion to Buddhism commenced during Indian Emperor Asoka’s time in the 3rd Century BC when the Sinhala King Devanampiyatissa ruled Lanka. This event took place about 550 years into the evolutionary process.
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                    Tamils
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                    Who are the Tamils of Lanka?

                    1. Ancient migrants from India (a comparatively very small population)
                    2. Those brought by Sinhala Kings for work and military service
                    3. Invaders from Kalinga in 1215 AD and subsequent invasions
                    4. Those who were brought by the Portuguese
                    5. Those who were brought by the Dutch
                    6. Those who were brought by the British
                    7. Illegal immigrants

                    The numbers in group 6 exceeded The sum total of 1,2,3,4,5 & 7.

                    Group 1 gas the same antiquity as the Sinhalese and are natives of Lanka.
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                    Group 2 were here by invitation of the Native ruler to serve the Natives.
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                    Thus looking from a Historical stand point, the Sinhalese and Group 1 Tamils are natives and have the same rights. Tamils in Group 2 should be considered naturalised and should have parity of status with the natives. The other groups were unwelcome intruders at the TIME of their arrival.

                    But looking from a humanitarian viewpoint groups 4, 5 and 6 should be accomodated within the SL polity without trampling on the rights of the Natives. The following example will explain what is meant.

                    The Hill country of Lanka was the hinterland of the Sinhalese of the Kandyan kingdom. The British dispossesed the Sinhalese of their Lands by enacting Draconian Laws such as the Waste Lands Act, Crown Land Enforcement Ordinance, Land Settlement Ordinance etc.

                    In 1931 the Lanka Tamil population was 610,272 but the Indian Tamil population was 711,028. Almost all of them resided in the Sinhala hinterland and still does.

                    “According to the 1946 census on population in the agricultural sector of the island, 40% of the agricultural peasant families found in the former Kandyan Kingdom were landless while there were 26% landless agricultural families recorded in the wet zone” (Herath 1995: 79).

                    Thus FIRST PRIORITY is the aliviation of the long standing problems caused by the draconian laws to the Sinhalese. At least a million of them are Landless, Homeless and without a means of permanant livelihood, living as paupers in lands that they once proudly farmed.

                    If not for the Massive Demographic change FORCED on them by the govt of the day, the subsequent Universal Franchise would have made them the masters of their own land. This should be addressed and corrected.

                    Once that is done the problems of the people in group 6 should be solved. Doing so in the reverse order is to trample on the rights of the Native.

                    I will be continuing from here in my third post

                    Kind Regards,
                    OTC

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            RAJA

            “You are a Sinhala racist”

            And he/she/it is proud about it. By now you should have known that this racist is also a noted liar, plagiarist and unbelievably stupid.

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              This person OTC has claimed in another site that his name is MNIN Perera, which appears to be not true, and therefore your assessment that he is a liar is correct.

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                Dear RAJA,

                I have responded to several points raised in your long post of June 13, 2015 at 4:01 am. Unfortunately you have been silent. Even that Masked Tamil has withdrawn into his rat hole.

                I have demolished your cunning attempts at using Old Hindu Temples as proof of ancient Tamil habitation and the attempt made to classify the Sinhalese as Immigrants.

                Then you have made another cunning attempt at laying a claim to the EAST (which was NEVER under Tamil control) by a devious but foolish route using the Veddas as a smoke screen.

                You wrote “Veddhas worshipped God Murugan with a temple in Kataragama. It is well known that only people in the world who worship God Murugan are Tamils,..”

                Oh what a Tangled web we weave when we first start to deceive!!!

                You seem to be suffering from a selective blindness. Was that RACISM which made you BLIND to the Tens of Thousands of Sinhalese devotees who flock to Kataragama to pay homage to God Murugan who the Sinhalese call the “Kataragama deiyo” (deiyo means God in Sinhala)

                On a festival day the Sinhalese devotees OUTNUMBER the Tamils. A visit to Kataragama will be sufficient to see through that smoke screen of yours.

                Hopefully, you, with the help of that masked Tamil, will be able to counter what I have written.

                BTW, you claim to be RAJA but you can be something else. You may be Lying and you may be not. No one cares as it is immaterial to the discussions. But I am intrigued by your “God Given” ability to judge a person by looking at a name. God Murugan has endowed you with a special gift.

                By looking at the “Name” how do you see the person who writes as “Native Vedda”

                Is he a Vedda?
                Is he a Native?
                Is he lying about his Ethnicity?
                Is he a Coward?
                Is he an IDIOT?
                What is he? (please give reasons)

                Note, this is the Guy you are engaging with in your comment of June 13, 2015 at 2:58 pm

                Kind Regards,
                OTC

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                  You are the racist who is blind to the truth. please do not distort truth to support your racist agenda. Very soon advanced technology will be available to unearth ancient civilization which like the Aryan myth will blow to pieces other Sinhala racist propaganda like yours.

                  Can American whites after 2000 years say that they have evolved into a new culture different from their ancestors who arrived from Europe and therefore they are natives and not immigrants, and that there had been only few natives at the time their ancestors arrived in America.

                  Ancient Shiva temples have been built in Tamil architecture and not in North Indian style. Hinduism practiced in North India and by Tamils are different where Tamils are Saivaites and North Indians are Vaishnavites.
                  This is similar to Mahayana and Theravada divisions in Buddhism.

                  Until 60 years ago there were hardly any Sinhalese visiting Kataragama. In Malaysia, Chinese and Malays also worship God Murugan at Batu cave.
                  None of them have claimed that God Murugan belongs to them. Kataragama is an ancient Veddha Temple and Sinhalese cannot make any claim.

                  Tamils have been virtually shut off from Kataragama. Tamil name at the top of the Temple has been removed, and replaced with Sinhala one. A new Vihare has been built only 40 years ago at the front next to Pillayar temple. Ramakrishna Madam was closed in 1976 citing vague reason.

                  The elusive 5th pre-Buddhist Shiva temple Thondeeswaram is lying buried in Dondra. It was accidentally discovered when digging a foundation to construct a Vihare. Unfortunately this temple will never be resurrected because a Buddhist Vihare was constructed on the demolished site.

                  These are hard facts which you are conveniently hiding. Please state the truth. Will you and other Sinhala racists agree for an international archaeological survey into the past in Srilanka to find out the truth. Only superficial archaeology lies in favour of Sinhala propaganda.

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                    Dear RAJA,

                    TRUTH can be proven.
                    Fables fail that test.
                    A Hypothesis has a Logical Base.

                    You are neither relating the Truth nor advancing a Hypothesis.

                    You think that Name calling and Old women’s gossip replaces both. It doesn’t. Instead of indulging in Idiotic and vituperative harangues provide a LOGICAL counter to what I have written. At the moment you are screeching and running around like a Headless Chicken.

                    There is no Sinhalese race anywhere else in the world. That is a Fact. Disprove it if you can.

                    Hence they cannot immigrate to Lanka from anywhere else in the World.

                    You ask “Can American whites after 2000 years say that they have evolved into a new culture different from their ancestors who arrived from Europe and therefore they are natives and not immigrants, and that there had been only few natives at the time their ancestors arrived in America”

                    Your intelligence has been dulled by your ingrained hatred. Hence that question is Idiotic and shows that you have failed to understand what I wrote.

                    The Ababco, the Apaches, the Cherokee, the Sioux, the Inuit, the Poosepatuck etc (list is too long to list here) are the Natives of America.

                    Any children of those Natives are also Natives of America.

                    Even if ONE parent is a Native American and the other is a Black skinned African or a White skinned European or a Yellow Skinned Chinese or a Brown skinned Asian or a Tamil from Tamil Nadu their children are still Natives of America.

                    Is there such a race evolving in America?
                    It happened in Sri Lanka and the Sinhalese race is the result.

                    You say “Ancient Shiva temples have been built in Tamil architecture and not in North Indian style”

                    Again your dulled intelligence is letting you down.

                    Go back and re-read the FIRST comment I addressed to you and that Tamil Idiot, masquerading as a Vedda (June 14, 2015 at 1:44 am). I quoted from the genetic study “Mitochondrial DNA history of Sri Lankan ethnic people: their relations within the island and with the Indian subcontinental populations” November 2013.

                    extract
                    No definite association of the Sinhalese with any specific ethnic or linguistic groups of India was, however, detected in this study; thus, their exact immediate origin on the mainland remains yet to be confirmed
                    end extract

                    Mainland India includes South India.
                    I hope you understand that.

                    Hence the existence of Kovils of Indian Tamil architecture ANYWHERE in Sri Lanka indicates only the possibility that Tamil Hindus may have been a parental population of the Sinhalese. It DOES NOT PROVE that the current day Tamils settled all over the Island and remained as Tamils to this day.

                    You think you are a Dravidian but are you?
                    If you are a Dravidian please explain the following scientific finding.

                    quote
                    All the Sinhalese and Tamil subgroups intermingle well with the majority of the Indian subcontinental populations, forming a large genetic matrix. However, Indian Tamils were separated from the rest of the Sri Lankan subgroups …. This is further strengthening of the hypothesis that Indian Tamils are genetically distinct from the rest of the Sri Lankan ethnic groups. (genetic study referred to above)
                    unquote

                    Sri Lankan Tamils are genetically DIFFERENT to Indian Tamils (Up country Tamils) who are unquestionably Dravidian!

                    It simply means that you are not DRAVIDIAN.

                    Here is some more Science for you to cut your teeth on.

                    Quote
                    The closer association of the Up-country Sinhalese with the Sri Lankan Tamils than with the Indian Tamils is not in agreement with the geographic distances among them. (ibid)
                    Unquote

                    Upcountry Sinhalese are genetically close to Lanka Tamils even though they are physically separated by a great distance (less chance of intermarriage). Please explain how that genetic connection can happen when marriage is extremely rare.

                    As I said before, you are Tamil speaking Sinhalese.

                    Who are the Tamils of Lanka?

                    1. Ancient migrants from India (comparatively small number)
                    2. Those brought by Sinhala Kings for work & military service
                    3. Invaders from Kalinga, 1215 AD and later
                    4. Those who were brought by the Portuguese
                    5. Those who were brought by the Dutch
                    6. Those who were brought by the British
                    7. Illegal immigrants

                    The numbers in group 6 exceeds The sum total of 1,2,3,4,5 & 7.

                    Group 1 has the same antiquity as the Sinhalese.
                    .
                    Group 2 was invited by the Native ruler to serve the Natives.
                    .
                    Thus looking from a Historical stand point, the Sinhalese are natives. Group 1 Tamils are immigrants but since they are a parent of native children they will have the same rights. Tamils in Group 2 should be considered naturalised and should have parity of status with the natives. The other groups were unwelcome intruders at the TIME of their arrival.
                    .
                    Eastern Lanka
                    Is the Tamil claim to it, Historically correct?

                    The information provided below proves that it is Fraudulent.

                    The Map below is dated 1726 AD and is owned by a Dutch Museum.
                    .
                    http://www.atlasofmutualheritage.nl/en/Map-Ceylon.5852
                    ,
                    It establishes beyond question the Land of the Wanniyars, the Land of the Vedda’s (Weddas or Bedas) and the territory of Jaffna Patnam (please see map).

                    Jaffna Patnam is the Jaffna peninsular and it ends near Calierauw (Dutch spelling).

                    The map is corroborated by a Dutch record that describes a Dutch fort located at Elephant Pass to protect the Dutch held Jaffna Tamil Kingdom from cross border attacks of the marauding armies of the Sinhala Kandyan Kingdom. (http://www.atlasofmutualheritage.nl/en/Elephant-Pass.813p#Details).
                    .
                    There is a central mountain range (gebergte van coeragahing) with an inverted L shape (long limb runs South to North then the Short limb runs Eastwards) called Coeragahing (Dutch spelling). The territory to the East of Coeragahing range, up to the Eastern Sea is occupied by the Veddas.

                    The Wanniya territory is bounded by a line running South West from a point near Elephant Pass keeping to the Northern side of Coeragahing range down towards Aripo excluding Matotte (near Manar Island) and the North West Sea. (please see map)
                    .
                    “In the kadaim books, Tri Simhale, which denotes the entire island, is divided into three principalities or kingdoms, namely Maya, Pihiti and Ruhunu. The oldest kadaim book, Sri Lamkadvipaye Kadaim, divides the entire island into 114 ratas or countries; Maya has 28 ratas, Pihiti has 43 ratas and Ruhunu has 43 ratas. Boundary pillars mark off the limits of particular ratas.” (quoted from Dr Sujit Sivasunderam)

                    Thus the ENTIRE Island was Sinhalese (the Sinhala word “Tri” means three)

                    “The Kandians had control over five ports at the time the Dutch succeeded the Portuguese on the coastal belt in the seventeenth century: these were Kalpitiya and Puttalam on the west coast and Trincomalee, Kottiyar, and Batticaloa on the east coast Each of these ports was linked to a particular segment of the Kandyan kingdom” (in Dr Sujit Sivasunderam’s book Islanded quoting Sinnappah Arasaratnam’s book “The Kingdom of Kandy: Aspects of its External Relations and Commerce, 1658-1710,” p110)

                    When the British arrived Lanka had 85% Forrest cover which was uninhabited. Thus Habitation in the WHOLE Island was limited to 15%. The collective area within the British made Northern and Eastern provinces is 30% of Lanka’s Land area. Which is DOUBLE the Inhabited area of the WHOLE Island at THAT TIME.

                    There is overwhelming evidence available to prove that the Tamil claim to the East is a Fraud. In fact the map above proves that PART of the present Northern Province was also under the Sinhala Kandyan Kingdom.

                    Kind Regards,
                    OTC

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          Foreigners can own property in Sri Lanka but they have to pay a 100% tax to do so.
          Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ………
          Pakistani imported free drug is at its high. This is not hallucination. But this is the Sinhala Intellectual disease when it then goes out with beggar bawl to put their budget. Did you read What the SLFP foreign Mangala said? He has declared that the Lankave’s Janathipathi Mahata is full aware of the worthiness of the diaspora. It is not your fault off case. It is the backups keeping you in the dark. This shameless naked bitch’s face is barking, but the tail who took money to pay their taxes to Pirapaharan, the Foreign Minister of Lankave is in the diaspora world is wagging the tail.

          Off Case you again on this because your people are one paying for these Kaumaalies(comedians) to release the report. If not, can you say method how to get these guys to release another additional report saying that they do not have a secret pact with SLFP.

          Idiot Off Tragic Case, India is a federal state. It does not have just one TGTE, it has 29 TGTE’s. They all are ruling their races’ mother lands. You never did know that India is Federal State. In India there is no standardization. They do not put laws that restaurants should not supply rice on Fridays, the day Hindus fast. What kind of political knowledge you have if the backups does not give something to paste?

          China does not pay tax. In the old Royal beggar government, China hack the defense ministry computers and take over the Nooraichoolai, Port city…. The Chinese contracts are one hundred percent of the loan supplied as materials and Labor. That is how the all 100% of the loan gets back to China. 12% interest. Port city land is owned by China with full sovereignty. Tell me much China paid for that. Can you ask from China even a penny for the Port City Land without you losing even your Amudaya to China? Chinese official sign their contracts for the Lankave goons and China too. These bitches were not even allowed to bark or wag their tails in front of Chinese officials when China has been inserting its plans into Lankave. It is not simply hallucination, you have a bad amnesia too.

          The brave Ranil Mahata, who declared he was one defeated LTTE, could not get back the Port City land. It is that much deeply pawned (Actually sold). Fool you have signed the contract that Lankan will be paying rate tax to China when you are using Colombo Port. The only profit making venture that China built is paying only for China. Further, as the Port City is owned with sovereignty, any Lankave’s lion race stepping in to Port City will be paying regular tax for China. Who is going to pay 100% tax for you my dear sweetheart? Call you and tell the people you hired to stop sending your shame on the merchant ships.

          Brother Prince going to lose all the property he is holding in America and the west. Old King going lose anything he has in Middle East too. These all the earned by murdering the Tamil property owners. In Start of May 2012 Anthonypillai Mahendrarasa was murdered by white van goons in Kilinochchi and his property is added to Royal wealth. That is the case with EDDP’s theater office story. The owner has been threatened with his life by SLFP’s northern branch EPDP.

          “It is reported that only a handful of families have resettled in 6258 acres of land released in Palaly alone, out of a total 19,159 acres released by the govt since 2012 in the North. “ You call this is resettlement? You think by writing like this you can make all other to return to Lankave and then kill them with white and capture their property? Idiot tells me if the army finished the operation what the business it has but to hand over the land to owner? “Why you are counting the teeth of the cow that is donated” fool! First, get the hell out of Palaly. The truth is no land has been fully release. The owners are used by the occupying army as slave workers to sell Pot, Kudu….

          “It is reported”. Where is that reported? Who reported? Your backups? Could you let the NGOs to rehabilitate and you get lost from our ancestral land? The owners have to enjoy their property.

          “That said it is an eye opener to see the very people who claim instant death and torture if deported to SL, seeking govt facilitation to purchase Properties in SL for investment and retirement.”

          Khuram Shaikh is not a deported UK citizen. To call one as LTTE and murder, all what a diaspora has to have is woman next him and a few sterling pounds in his pocket. That much cheap goons are Off Tragic Cases of Lankave.

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            Dear Mallaiyuran,

            I feel sorry for you.

            You asked “It is reported”. Where is that reported? Who reported?

            The above question PROVES ONCE AGAIN that your English literacy is insufficient to engage in a fruitful discussion.
            Unfortunately you don’t even Read, before asking questions. That is a Hallmark of an IDIOT.

            As I said before, Foreigners can own property in Sri Lanka but they have to pay a 100% tax to do so. Any SANE person would have checked what I wrote before challenging it. But INSANITY made you rush to punch your keyboard. However I am glad that it tickled your funny bone!!!

            I also know that you are hallucinating perpetually and hence you lose focus and stray and run around like a Salivating Rabid Dog. Even your comment above rambles on aimlessly about Kings and queens, princes and Chinese, port cities etc everything under the Sun except the points raised in my comment.

            A few days ago you even challenged the following quote.

            “Valvettithurai, VVT in brief, served as a “smuggler’s paradise” where all goods forbidden by the “socialist” state of Sri Lanka were available in plenty. (T. Sabartnam)

            That was an extract from Prabahkaran’s Biography written by T Sabaratnam and available at the Separatist Tamil Website sangam.org
            .
            https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/tgte-welcomes-fonsekas-willingness-to-face-war-crime-trials-urges-him-to-avail-to-uns-oisl/comment-page-1/#comment-1840971
            .
            Everyone knowledgeable on Sri Lanka KNOWS that VVT was a Smugglers Paradise but you being a IDIOT, blinded by separatist ideology, tried to say it was not.

            No one can debate with a Rabid Fool who claims Black is not Black and is white.

            Eleven days ago on 1 June I told you that

            “This discussion is too COMPLEX for a Lying Retarded Idiot who is intellectually DISHONEST and Lies shamelessly. Hence until I see honesty and an argument focused on the subject matter I will IGNORE YOUR IDIOTIC RAMBLING COMMENTS”

            Today I am repeating it again in the HOPE that it will go into your thick skull.

            Until you can address an issue and keep your focus on that issue and stop smoking Pot and come off your perpetual hallucination, all your comments would be IGNORED.

            However you will be reminded of this comment every time you make a FOOLISH challenge.

            Kind Regards,
            OTC

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              “As I said before, Foreigners can own property in Sri Lanka but they have to pay a 100% tax to do so. Any SANE person would have checked what I wrote before challenging it.”

              Why friend you are repeating what you wrote? You were not sure what you wrote? You just pasted what you your backups gave you? Otherwise you may not have tempted to repeat it.

              One more time you have learned from the lessons we have been giving you on the CT. You did very well on Tamil Eelam lessons. Tamils are foreigners to Lankave. TGTE’s claims only on Eelam. But you are reluctant to accept that Chinese are foreigners too to Lankave. Problem, again starting with the word “Foreigners”. It appears you are missing your “Learners Dictionary.com”.You mean Chinese are “Monkey’s Uncles’? You a nephew of Chinese? In other word Chinese are Aryans? I doubt that man. They are Mongolians. They are not the run away woman’s wild beast children. Check the Mahavamsa one more time if the Chinese are also come on the same boat of rowdy Vijeyan to capture Tamil Eelam and rape the Tamil Lady Quveni.

              Fool understand something climbing little bit above your well.

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                Dear Mallaiyuran,

                You ask “Why friend you are repeating what you wrote?”

                Because you are a Retarded IDIOT.
                I was hoping repetition would help.
                I now see the necessity of more repetition.

                Re “One more time you have learned from the lessons we have been giving you on the CT”

                I have learned that you are a Retarded Idiot and a Liar to boot.

                Even after reading T Sabaratnam’s description of VVT, you continued to claim VVT is not a Smugglers Paradise.

                It’s common knowledge that VVT is a Smuggler’s Paradise.
                Is that True or False?

                Twelve days ago, on 1 June, I told you that “This discussion is too COMPLEX for a Lying Retarded Idiot who is intellectually DISHONEST and Lies shamelessly. Hence until I see honesty and an argument focused on the subject matter I will IGNORE YOUR IDIOTIC RAMBLING COMMENTS”

                Yesterday I repeated it.

                Today I am repeating it again in the HOPE that it will penetrate that thick skull and illuminate the Retarded Brain.

                Until you can address an issue and keep your focus on that issue and stop smoking Pot and come off your perpetual hallucination, all your comments would be IGNORED.

                Kind Regards,
                OTC

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                  Man It is really hard to understand the super brain of the Sinhala Intellectuals. If say it is beyond my comprehension, I would add even Einstein, Newton like the ones would not be able to figure it out.

                  Just see how the “100% tax for foreigners” deals are made. There are jungle and barren lands in Habantota. How these unwanted lands are changed into … amazing deals? “It is only an unwanted land, why not put an unwanted mega project in that; who is going to be hurt, No headache of shooting the Welaweria Christians inside the Church.” Not just Einstein.. Newton, even enlightened Buddha would not be conceiving a creative idea like this. Then the rest of the story is most fascinating. To hand over project land to China the Land ownership law also has been amended as if one company put a project about 100 Million dollars they can buy the land. Where the Diasporas can come into these costs?

                  The Principal is there. The Interest paid on these loans can swallow the principal. Would Mallaiyuran like ordinary people can understand this math? No way!

                  Now the loan. When the loans start to inflows, it flows in as Chinese prisoners to do the construction and dismantled Chinese factory machines as materials. Which of the great one ever lived in the world can understand this kind of super deals, others than the Off Tragic Cases like OTC.

                  How the Prisoner Labor and the dismantled machines are costed? That is fabulous story. One has to have to be gifted to hear this story. A 60,000Rs computer is bought to 120,000Rs without any fallow in the sales deed to anybody to catch the corruption deal. You remember when British firm wanted to rebuild the Petroleum corporation plant for as high 1.1 billion, then without being fooled by the UK firm, we gave it to China for a very cheap price of 2.2 Billion dollars? Who can forget that?

                  If a project is put on hold, then charge of loss per day is $400,000. Wow! Sinhala Intellectuals’ kids soon going to master the math by reading alone these mega numbers!

                  When these projects are up (and not running Certainly – like Nooraiccholai), we feel sorry for having the Chinese cheated so much, so we hand over the management to the Chinese companies, so that they can have the income coming out the project they did. What a graceful deed!

                  Then the special sovereignty laws come. The Port City cannot be ruled by Colombo Municipality. It is under new Version of Ehelepola Nilame’s East Indian Company… that is “CCCCCCCCCCC”. (I do not know what is that is)

                  Then the land deals come out. The Modayas have been hallucinating that they can do what they did with the pacts they signed with Tamils, to China too. But fortunately it did not happen like that. If the project is not handed over to China, then the Defense Department’s and other 50 computers are hacked to get them.

                  What a 100% Foreigners tax on Chinese companies to own a land in Lanka!

                  Man.. Off case how do make deals like these. Wow. How can I understand these deals?

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                    Dear Mallaiyuran,

                    You wrote “If say it is beyond my comprehension, I would add even Einstein, Newton like the ones would not be able to figure it out”

                    You are trying to compare yourself to Geniuses.
                    You are a Retarded Lying Idiot light years away from their intellect.

                    Thirteen days ago, on 1 June, I told you that “This discussion is too COMPLEX for a Lying Retarded Idiot who is intellectually DISHONEST and Lies shamelessly. Hence until I see honesty and an argument focused on the subject matter I will IGNORE YOUR IDIOTIC RAMBLING COMMENTS”

                    Yesterday I repeated it. Today I am repeating it again in the HOPE that it will penetrate that thick skull and illuminate the Retarded Brain within.

                    Until you can address an issue and keep your focus on that issue and stop smoking Pot and come off your perpetual hallucination, all your comments would be IGNORED.

                    Kind Regards,
                    OTC

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                      Now I don’t wonder why you you the Sinhala Intellectual have made so many marvelous deals with China.

                      You are not just could not understand Sabaratnam, how you people can understand such a manipulating Chinese diplomats?

                      “You wrote “If say it is beyond my comprehension, I would add even Einstein, Newton like the ones would not be able to figure it out” You are trying to compare yourself to Geniuses. You are a Retarded Lying Idiot light years away from their intellect.” Read it fool.

                      It is clear why just before election you boss Old King Gave up on all you and spent 150 Million on US PR firms.

                      Suitable remedy is and good manager for you is Bother Prince’s whip. But he is threatened with arrest.

                      Amnesia Patient, I though you are one started with TGTE. Could you expalin why TGTE came here. We can talk about that. It is irreverent. Do remember where you wrote “Panchamar”? Amnesia Patient, if you remember where you wrote “Panchamar” and how it is connecting to that thread and tell me the meaning of of “Panchamar”, I give the reply to that. (remember, With out knowing the meaning of Panchamar, you wrote, so have to come to know the meaning of that. Good Luck)

                      You boss has been shown black flag in Polunaruwa. Well too late to repeat Welaweriya. He reminded that Tamils in North and East did not rebel against him but Polunaruwa Sinhala people had protested against him. You are a real racist and you are hired to write against Tamils. If you deny that can you comment on the racist sentence uttered by your former boss. Then we can talk about that.

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                      The retarded Idiot is still spewing forth gibberish and is hallucinating about kings and queens.

                      Mallaiyuran is ignored until he learns to be honest and focused.

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      To: A Tamil diaspora group or Any other urged the Sri Lankan Government to establish a ‘Ministry for Overseas Sri Lankan affairs’.

      Unless you pay, you have No Rights.

      Brazilians, don’t pay., and they have no rights in Sri Lanka.

      However, Brazilians do not Bother Lanka, the Land of Native Veddah Aeythho.

      If you want rights, you need to contribute in a positive way.

      That is what Foreign Capitalists, do, bring capital, develop the country, and its people.

      You need to do the same. Then it becomes a win-win situation. Ask the capitalists.

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        Your cart before the horse theory does not work. Why did MR cancel Dual
        Citizenship in an ad-hoc manner for 4 long years, will explain that a sinhala
        mentality must be much more broad, as we advance into the 21st Century.

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        Amarasiri

        In the first three months of this year total number of tourist arrival was about 500,000. They paid and stayed in hotels, used local transport, paid taxes for using the airport, bought goods and services, drank, had fun, paid other indirect taxes, went back to their native country, ……. after exploiting our people who are being paid pittance for serving the foreigners, ………

        Why not people who live here make few bucks out of the diaspora. Now the diaspora with foreign passport travel widely and spend extravagantly. Why shouldn’t they come and stay here as long term paying guest? Is it honorable to serve the white man than Sri Lankans?

        In these comment pages most of them got the wrong end of the stick.

        The proposed would be ‘Ministry of overseas Sri Lankans’ which would serve all people including Sinhalese, Tamils, Buddhists, Hindus, Christians, Muslims, all Sri Lankan descendants, its not as many make out to be and exclusive Tamil ministry.

        According to some unconfirmed estimates there are about 4 million people of Sri Lankan origin and their descendants live outside the island, permanently or otherwise.

        A ministry is not a bad idea.

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          Native Vedda

          Amarasiri Said:

          “If you want rights, you need to contribute in a positive way.”

          So, The Sri Lankan Diaspora can be treated as a former Sri Lankan Guest group, and Given a Discount, Former Sri Lanka discount, compared to the other “Tourists”, and encouraged to spend and contribute. May be they can given extended 6 month or 12 moth visa as opposed to the one month given to ‘Foreigners” now for $40 for 30 days.

          In addition, they can be given other “discounts” Compared to the Foreigners because of their sri lankan ancestry, from the Land of Native (Veddah) Aethho.

          Let us hope that free Gang raping is not part of the deal.

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      Unbelievable lunacy!

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    well i suggest we nominate our Vellala Hero K A Sumanasekera as Minister for Overseas Vellala Sri Lankan diasporians ;-)

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    Well well high on the heels of the news item , reported here on CT ,that GTF Suren Surendran met with TNA MP Smunthiran and Foreign Minister Mangala Samaraweera , these guys need to make an announcement as well.
    I am sure other Tamil Diaspora organisations will compete with each other to jump on the band wagon and make similar statements.

    I posted a comment whether any Sinhala Diaora organisation were invited for any of these meetings and I got 10 thumbs down.

    These are all jokers

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      Rajash

      Proliferation of stupid Tamil organisation seems unstoppable.

      Have you started your own one man club to be somebody in your community? If you have congratulations. If you haven’t you are making a mistake.

      What seems to be the main problem with these Tamils who start these clubs which don’t survive until the next day?

      What do the Tamil diaspora want from this island?

      I am told two of the founding “fathers” of Non Resident Tamils of Sri Lanka (NRTSL)have been ardent advocates of Marxism, Leninism Communism, Maoism, Socialissm, or combination of all these, yet they advocate property rights, investments, banking, ….. which my Elders tell are the tools of exploitation and oppression.

      As usual I am confused.

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        Dear Native,

        No wonder you are confused.

        Look at the people you back.

        Samare promises Vellala LTTE ,BTF Dual Passports, Special Banks, and Tax exemptions, on his way back from voting for Gay Marriages.

        His own Boss whom you back to the hilt is also confused about what Samare is doing with the LTTE.

        [Edited out] is scared , With Mahendran already sitting on his shoulder,

        Does he need Surendran also on a leash to entertain our Dalits in the South soon.

        Sooner than expected perhaps.

        Your new mates Rathne and Champika , the bouncers at the President’s house are also gone missing,

        Most probably they are also confused and depressed how soon Sira was castrated by Ponil, even after holding on to the Exec Power, despite promising it all to Ponil at the Singapore Summit.

        Join the Dalits mate, There won’t be any confusion there.

        You will then have something good to reflect on in your old age.

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          K.A Sumanasekera

          I am also confused about your ancestors’ origin.

          When your forefathers arrived here from Kerala did they also bring the science of Kalaricikitsa and the art of Kalarippayattu?

          If they did could you let me have evidence of such knowledge transfer from Kerala to this island. You might find them in Vitti poth.

          Why does your karava.org praise your brethren VP?

          Hope you would help me with my inquiry into your past and you would not do yet another crab walk (sideways).

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        Native :
        Look at the one of the objectives these jokers are putting together

        “Legal right to purchase land, houses, retirement homes, holiday homes ….”

        These guys are shooting themselves on the foot. They are openly saying the Tamil Diaspora are all economic migrants and not asylum seekers running away from the torture and imprisonment etc etc of the Sinhala Govt
        These jokers are putting at risk genuine asylum seekers.
        Unless of course they are only representing Middle class Tamil Diaspora?

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          “They are openly saying the Tamil Diaspora are all economic migrants and not asylum seekers running away from the torture and imprisonment etc etc of the Sinhala Govt”

          So finally someone’s let the cat out of the bag and it’s annoyed We Thamizh no end :D

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          ” They are openly saying the Tamil Diaspora are all economic migrants and not asylum seekers running away from the torture and imprisonment etc. etc. “

          I wonder whether the thought occurred to the LTTE-supporting MP Gardiner, the chief guest. I doubt he is that smart.

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        “Have you started your own one man club to be somebody in your community? If you have congratulations. If you haven’t you are making a mistake. “

        In my own and unassuming way togehter with a couple of close friends I do support and sponsor orphaned children in the war affected areas in Sri Lanka.I never bragg about it.I am sure there are many Tamils and Sinhalease alike out there.

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          Rajash

          Then why are you bragging on in these columns. Without raising bogey arguments engage in positive work.

          Even Wimal Weerawanse needs rehabilitation. Pl. help him.

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          Rajash Kumar

          ‘In my own and unassuming way togehter with a couple of close friends I do support and sponsor orphaned children in the war affected areas in Sri Lanka’. Good luck to you for showing the British compassion to help my people.

          Please tell me about yourself before asking about others. Who are you?

          You are like a (in Tamil) ‘palli’ (Tokay gecko – Gekko gecko) You have nothing else to do other than creaking all the time from hiding.

          Thakkadiya is a very serious person and is determined to come after you and reveal your real ugly British face one day. It is better to put your hands up or go to hiding by moving away from Harrow. So long as you continue with your spree, I will hunt you. If you do not change and even if you run away from Harrow you are going to have sleepless night. Once I see you, rest will be due process of your British system of justice.

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            Thakkadiya “Who are you? “

            I AM

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              Rajash Kumar- the phead….

              I am a THAKKADIYA. You borrowed and begging bowl British will not understand. Go for Sinhala classes and learn Sinhala.

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                I am very fluent in Sinhala.

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                    The Editor

                    I welcome your discretion to completely edit out my comments.

                    This busker Rajash Kumar thinks everyone reading the CT are idiots and he is world above the sky.

                    He is absolutely paranoid and suffering from progressive m…. disorder as a result of no other meaningful preoccupation.

                    My argument is how come a outright (glorifying) British can be fluent in Sinhala? Must be knowing few Sinhala filth-the first step to learn Sinhala.

                    The Sinhala fluent busker British still does not know the meaning of Yakkadaya.

                    Editor: Please give me a chance to fully expose this fake in a write up once I reach him through the due British process.

                    Many thanks

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                      Have you read the book Yakada Yaka by Carl Muller.
                      If not I strongly suggest. Unfortunately its in English so you may not comprehend, not sure if a Tamil transaltion is available. You may check it out.

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                      Busker Rajash Kumar

                      Your comment below is well said.

                      Yakkadaya will reveal the incriminating story about Yakada Yakka selling stolen Yakadas in a car boot sale.

                      This is just a gist of the taste to rub your skin.

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    I think this proposal as a concept is a timely one.The Sri Lankan diaspora ( here I mean ALL Sri Lankans)has a valuable role to play in the nation building and healing process that has been long overdue since particularly 2009.The potential of the SL diaspora is invaluable both from a collective and individual point of view and should be persued by all concerned parties.

    I think India has such a Ministry dedicated to overseas Indians.Much could be borrowed from that excercise.However this should not preclude us from been innovative as well.

    It is heartening to note the initiave of the organisers , coming as it does in the context of a ” reach out ” exercise of the Sri Lankan government, Foreign Minister Samaraweera in particular.If approached properly by all concerned , the positive results are limitless.

    Viva a harmonious Sri Lanka !!

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    So basically they want Sri Lankan tax payers to fund this ministry while they don’t pay a cent yet reap all the benefits and influence from overseas? They really have some hide!

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      Mikhail

      “So basically they want Sri Lankan tax payers to fund this ministry while they don’t pay a cent yet reap all the benefits and influence from overseas?”

      Have you thought about taxing their income from investments? If you haven’t start thinking. These could be additional Tax revenue to the coffer.

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        So one minute they are talking about how the west should boycott Sri Lanka including investment until there is ‘accountability’. Now we’re actually talking about creating tax revenue from their own investment? Jumping the gun a little bit there Native Veddha

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    Yeah. Open one to keep them out. You have abandoned your country, so go away. Need best of both worlds, you selfish lot!

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    This mob doesn’t want to be simple Tamils.They want to be Tamils of Srialnkan origin… Right.

    Why this sudden change of mind..

    Are the Indian Tamils superior?….

    After all they didn’t want the Srilankan bit at all after Nanthikdal and even , until this Yahapalanaya came.

    Is this Yahapalanaya that valuable to ditch the dear Eelaam Tamil identity and adopt this Srialnakn bit.

    Isn’t it an insult to the late Diaspora Boss Mr Pirahaparan?..

    Perhaps it is.

    Because the top priority of this gentleman seems to get Duals, Buy Property and Invest in Srilankan assets, through the share market or in direct investments.

    Most of all he wants special banking arrangements as well.. How cool..

    I know these British Tamils who seem to be loaded, get bugger all for their Term Deposits or even Bonds.

    While Singapore Mahendran who is also a non Srilankan Tamil is raking in big time , sorry is giving 13 % for his family and friends for their dosh..

    Of course not illegally, but through that mother of all Bond issues in his first assignment as the Chief.

    Now with the more juicy one which is the USD Bond issue is on it sway , Diaspora Tamils and Sinhalese and Muslims with the dosh and the know how to dabble, must be salivating about 8 % plus which Galleon Ravi is planning to pay.

    The Total is 1 Billion for the CPC and 500 Million for the CEB.

    These are gilt edged AAA investments.

    That is a total USD 1500 Mil.. Right

    If Galleon does a Mahendran, the lucky investors may get even 10 % although it is only 3 to 5 years.

    Still what the heck.

    Diaspora dudes will be lucky to get 1 % in their new Homelands.

    May I suggest our Yahapalana dudes call this Ministry for Pirhanas to go with the Ministry of Crabs.

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      K.A Sumanasekera

      Aren’t you part of Malayali (South Indian) diasporan having taken over the entire country, who have appropriated almost all ministries, state institutions, etc, yet unable to reconcile with yourself and your greed driven aspirations, driven by self deception and self loathing, …. ?

      By the way could you summarise what you have attempted say in your typing above.

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      K.A Sumanasekera

      Do you share your South Indian gene with H. L. D. Mahindapala?

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      Well articulated perspective from KA Sumana….. Thank you. In a nutshell, NRT fellows want the govt to provide them with a money laundering instituition.

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        lal loo

        “NRT fellows want the govt to provide them with a money laundering instituition.”

        Money laundering institutions have been fine tuned by the clan and they hugely benefited from wheeling and dealing from such institutions.

        Since this country doesn’t discriminate people on racial, regional, religious basis why not non resident Tamils too benefit from the same institutions which clan used not only to enrich them but also transfer humongous amounts abroad.

        You are being stupid, it will help the Sinhala speaking non resident as well.

        Don’t deny the Sinhala speaking people the right to money laundering.

        By the way where did MR get the huge sums to bribe VP? Can you check it out with MR.

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          Dear Native,

          I like your quip..” Why shouldn’t non resident Tamils too enrich themselves ? “

          You aren’t obviously up to speed with our Reserve Bank, sorry CB trading activities..Right.

          Take some time off reading those Ola scripts and learn something about Bond Trading , Dabbling in Share Markets and FX trading ..like your other expat mates Mahendren and Rajarathnam..
          .
          EPF or your Super won’t be enough for a comfortable living even in the “Northern Government” under a Vellala CM.

          Why do you think, your mate NRT mates want special deals on Retirement Homes . Holiday Homes, Bank Deposits , Money Transfer and whole host of other concessions and special deals to make money..

          I am sure you have heard Bankok Taxi Drivers say “No Money No Honey.”…

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            K.A Sumanasekera

            “I am sure you have heard Bankok Taxi Drivers say “No Money No Honey.”…”

            Was the Taxi Driver talking to Rajpal Abeynayake?

            Did you help him find his valet?

            BTW what were doing in Bangkok anyway? Looking for ladyboys of Thailand.

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    I am a British citizen of Sri Lankan Tamil origin. I categorically declare these bunch of jokers don’t speak for me.

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      Ha. Ha.. Ha…..

      ‘I am a British citizen of Sri Lankan Tamil origin’- what a shame on you to call yourself exclusively a British. So, you hold British citizenship and passport. But you birth certificate is Sri Lankan.Have you tried to change your colour. If not I can recommend a place for you. It is an igloo whitening centre.

      From the news about NRT-SL it is an organisation that could fit you better. Even they can’t help because you seems to have your interest in Sri Lanka.

      Have you got your daughter married to a proper British and likewise your dear son.

      What do you eat? Stake,kidney pie, porridge, egg and toast, chicken konkarny mologuwattanni etc.

      Why don’t you write comments in the British papers as a British. Why do you need Sri Lankan forums to lambast.

      What a bogus creature you are.

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        Ha ha Bufflao Bill.
        Yes indeed! I am proud to be British.!
        what are you going to do about it.
        The rest of your verbal diahorrea shows your frustration what ever it is.

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          Rajash

          NRTs such as the above umbrella group and buffalo bills who is naturally jealous on successful people are typical members of our sri lankan society additionally they are cerebrally challenged as well.

          This makes the reconciliation a difficult proposition.

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            Ken Robert “This makes the reconciliation a difficult proposition.”

            what make reconciliation difficult is the multitude of Diaspora organisations mushrooming all over and each one of them claiming to represent the diaspoara.

            we have been there with various militant organisations?

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    these jokers like to sell their own people in wholesale to butcher shop………

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    If these so called groups want to do something for their communities, why don’t they come down here and live? To me it seems like they form these clubs as a hobby. What good is it for the tamil community. Can they wind up their businesses and come and live here?

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    NRT-SL : Non Resident Tamils of SriLanka; watch;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_LHid2uzZI

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    Cholan.

    ….these jokers like to sell their own people in wholesale to butcher shop…..

    Well said.This is precisely what they did at Nandhikadal!

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    The Tamil Diaspora,like in Greek Mythology,are caught between Scylla and Charybdis.

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    Let NRTSL contribute towards building SriLanka or even build their community.

    All they talk about here is how they can build their assets, facilitate them to amass wealth. Why should Sri Lanka bother if it is all about how some people who want to build themselves up? Good luck to them.

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    Could Thamba, Sivalingam or any other representative of NRTSL please provide a list of the founder members mentioned in the artilcle, and perhaps add a brief of their individual political, professional, academic background and any other relevant informaton that would help legitimize the claim of representing British Tamil Diaspora, even if not global Diaspora, if indeed NRTSL is intended to be more inclusive, even while obviously excluding the many Burgher, Sinhala and Muslim Diaspora of Sri Lankn origin around the world.

    I am hoping that this is not an unreasonable request if NRTSL is to be taken seriously. If you consider it unreasonable, kindly explain why.

    Thank you.

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      Hello British Vellala Kumar Rajash

      Your demands are always too many.

      Follow the link in Sothilingam’s comment. The names and contact numbers are there. Simply give a call to any one of them.

      When are you going to change your name to British Robin Hood or Pinockio.

      By the way, you idle loony there is special offer at Sambal Express in South Harrow today on Hot Pittu and mutton or chicken curry. Run and buy before it finishes. Make sure you have enough toilet tissues to wipe your inherited British arse.

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        No Tamil needs Yakadaya as the surrogate, proxy or apologist for any legitimate Tamil political group who aspirs to rtepresent Tamil Diaspora.

        Yakadaya’s twisted-amude response reflects the nervousness, frustration and aggrevation even a simple request causes to who-ever this weak-kneed, scool-girlish Yakadaya is!

        Anyhow, hope Thamba or some legitimate representative can be forthright, rather than resorting to hide under the amude of yakadaya.

        If Yakadaya is indeed the appropriate representative of NRT-SL – that alone tells all what we want to know about NRT-SL!

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          Kumar Rajash

          ‘Yes indeed! I am proud to be British.!’ is your upbeat scream.

          Be a British and not a angry Sri Lankan. Join the British ‘Telegraph’ and be a British journalist. Very few white British call themselves British. Britishness is gone and they now call them English, Scottish, Walsh and Irish. You are a strange calibre to jump over the moon to call yourself British.

          With your illegitimate nationalism of Britishness, do not pontificate legitimacy to others. When are you going to become a Kulla man???? This will be another promotion to heaven for you.

          Don’t forget Sambal Express will close at 11.00pm today. Also buy some Andrex softy British tissues to wipe your backside chillie hurt. Do not forget to remove your amude.

          How did you become a British. Did it start from breast feeding to nursery rhymes and to baby stories.

          It is time for you to forget that you are a Sri Lankan or Tamil or Sinhalese.

          Yakkadaya is a patriotic Sri Lankan and will fight for the right of Sri Lankans.

          Don’t worry Yakkadaya is coming closer to you and very soon will bump on to you in Harrow. Please do not move out to Scotland.

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            Yakkadaya “Very few white British call themselves British. Britishness is gone and they now call them English, Scottish, Walsh and Irish.” ….
            …”You are a strange calibre to jump over the moon to call yourself British”

            You have just shown your ignorance and that you are an absolute idiot.

            why am I wasting my time with an idiot like you.
            Please Join NRTSL and give them advise.

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        Hey Man I am not going drive all the way from the Stock Brokers belt to South Harrow to buy Kottu rotti and mutton curry. Do you know whether they do home delivery.

        Howevcer I get my curry from Fortnum Mason

        “Make sure you have enough toilet tissues to wipe your inherited British arse. “….is that your experienceo of Sambal express …you had an express exit

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          Kumar Rajash

          Stock brokers belt or stocky bonkers belt.

          You only reflect yourself a real laughable stock attempting to earn credibility by portraying that you are in stock brokers belt. Near to the stock broker market is the wholesale Smithfields Butchers market. Do you have a stall there? Make sure you do not chop yourself.

          You must be chopping very early in the morning and writing nonsense in the CT rest of the valuable day.

          Those in the hard working stock brokers belt do not have any time to go on bonking in these columns.

          Harrow is a well known marriage brokers and topers belt.

          Good to know that a deceptive British knows about Kottu and mutton curry the Sri Lankan enjoy. Be warned, carry with you the softy toilet tissues and avoid munching the raw chillie chops in the Kottu.

          I have not come across a nutter like you in my life.

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            Yakkadaya
            where is Harrow?

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              This hilarious British does not know where to buy soft toilet tissue in Harrow.

              A real joker.

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                I buy my toilet tissue at Harrods.
                Now you still haven’t told me where Harrow is. I am not surprised because you just don’t know where Harrow is. You only work there and guessing from your postings perhaps cleaning toilet at Sambal express and eating their left over food and perhaps and rushing to the toilet again.

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                  We do not sell toilet tissue.

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                    Harrods “We do not sell toilet tissue. “
                    Except for Royal warrant holders

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            “Blah blah blah ‘Stock Brokers belt’ blah blah blah ‘Harrods’ blah blah blah”

            Rajash is trying very hard to show that he’s not sitting on a burlap sack in a corner shop in some London ethnic ghetto leeching off the free wi fi from down the road but he’s been clean bowled by Yakadaya :D
            But maybe he really does get toilet tissue from Harrods, he probably steals them while working the toilets there :D

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              Wee Thamihz Senior Journalist Siva Sankaran Sarma Menon

              is happy that his fellow Thamihz Rajash is sitting on burlap sack rather than on his brain, unlike his fellow Wee Thamihzs journalists.

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              I challenge to you to get cleaning job in Harrods

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                Dear Mr Rajash,

                We regret to inform you that your fellow diasporians have taken all the cleaning jobs. You know how it is, one gets in and the rest follow. However we will keep your application on file and if a suitable vacancy arises we will write to you.

                H

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        Yakdaya,

        Civility in communication is defined by upbringing – obviously you owe your civility and your obsession to “arse wiping” to your parents, both mom and dad. I guess they made a living, and perhaps continue to make a living, that way.

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          What civility you have you tope bellied half naked pyjama British to in these columns to attempt to only enjoy the British freedom?

          Go and enjoy your freedom in the Spitafield market you Karuppu British.

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        “Follow the link in Sothilingam’s comment”
        No thanks. but it appears you have already done that.

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      First of all if the banner that appears on the wall behind the promoters had read ” SL Diaspora”,and that the purpose for the meeting was to help in reconciliation and rehabilitation and economic progress of the island, that would have had a sense of purpose.
      In the absence of that declared objective it is not surprising that many adverse comments have been made.

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    “Non Resident Tamils Of Sri Lanka – NRT-SL”. What about “Non Resident Sinhalese”; “Non Resident Moors”; “Non Resident Burghrs”; “Non Resident Malays” etc .of Sr Lanka? You guys still cannot come to terms with the change that is going on in this country. Why don’t you have the courage to call yourself “Sri Lankans” and you have the guts to talk to “Britishers” who are of various origins. I have no doubt; you know it, but you still want to play this “Hide And Seek” game with every one. That I believe “in born” and you will never give up that self imposed “Isolation”.

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    Cropping like mushrooms, I mean these organisations overseas. Now they want a separate ministry, always want a separate thing. In the listed Targets, I havent seen any thing for Tamils living here, nor any empathy but all for them; dual citizenship, legal rights to buy lands, holiday homes and etc, banking facilities, the list goes on.

    Have they understood the plight of people, some are still in detention centres. Why cannot all these guys who lives overseas form in to a single organisation and work together as a matter of priority for the betterment of the ones who had affected most by the war and are still langushing. Cannot they work together towards achieving a peaceful solution for this vexed issues?.

    If what I sense is right, if legalised as requested, they will be going to come and exploit their own people with their upward mobility buying power, which would make them hard for the poor fellows to buy a plot of land to live on. Wish I would be proven wrong.

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      Aia,

      You are absolutely right – NRT-SL’s nrrow-focus on “dual citizenship, legal rights to buy lands, holiday homes, banking facilities” casts enormous doubt on the end-game sought by this group. Seems it is all aimed at just the betterment of the Diaspora, on the guise of helping Sri Lanka, if not the brethern left behind in Sri Lanka.

      Clarity and transprency is a must if the group is to have any credibility and if broader support is anticipated.

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    There are enough problems facing Sri Lankans residing in Sri Lanka for the government to deal with right now and, these fellows must have rocks in their heads to come up with such a stupid idea. Sri Lankans living in the UK should take their problems to the ministries in the UK, or pack their bags and come to Sri lanka. Where do they suggest they house this ministry; in the UK or Sri Lanka? Get a life!

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    There is nothing in the list of objectives to help :
    1000′ of war widows struggling to survive
    1000’s of orphaned children with lack of education facility
    1000’s of incapcitated former carders suriving on a day to day nasis
    10000’s off Tamil Tigres whom the Tamil society is now rejecting
    Farmers and fishermen who have lost their livelihood

    instead these guys want to build holday homes and retirement homes and they wnat the Sri Lankan Govt to provide and I quote “Attractive and efficient banking procedure and facilities to increase foreign currency flow through state banking institutions” unquote

    so that they can transfer black money from the undiyal and from other form sources and avoid tax both at both end.

    what a joke!

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      Rajash

      Without too much bragging in these columns go and help the needy.

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        Rocket Scientist, Rajash is on duty at the gas station in Edgware Road in two hours. No time to help the poor.

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        you dont need a Rcoket Scientist to figure out that NET SL is the one bragging here and putting hollow objectives.

        Yakaday, Siva Sankaran Sarma etc instead of hallenging me hey are resorting to verbal slang so I am reciprocating

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    This forum descends into uncivilised ,low level attacks and reprisals. In other countries they would he discussed the merits of having a ministry for Diaspora investments and how it will impact SriLankan economy. If you read this guy called Sumanasekara you will know what kind level to which our people can stoop down. This is a sad country and will never improve unless people get educated.Until then the politicians will promote racial hatred and exploit the poor Srilankan masses.

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      you know this diaspora, it is anti SL to begin with…so motive matters

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        Majority of the Tamil Diaspora are anti Srilanka because of the behaviour of the successive governments. If the institutional racism prevailing in Srilanka and state sponsored violence is stopped, there will be no antagonism. Most of the Tamil diaspora are either victims of racial discrimination or state sponsored violence and in few cases both.

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          There is no state sponsored violence in SL, if they are crying from the a** rape in 1983, well sorry, but they will have to pay for funding terrorism in SL

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            Dear Raja,

            The North was controlled by the Tamil LTTE when you left SL.

            We saw tens of thousands of LTTE flags waving in Western capitals where tens of thousands Tamils were blocking western highways. This underlined the support and love you had for the LTTE.

            Why did you leave that safe haven in the North?
            Did that institutional racism prevail there too?

            It is also noted that you did not raise a finger to save 100,000 Tamil children in the Vanni who were used as cannon fodder by the LTTE. Strangely you are totally SILENT on Adele Balasingham, now living in the UK, who was DIRECTLY responsible for the destruction of several future Tamil generations.

            Land has been the CORE issue of the ethnic problem. Everything else is camouflage.

            It surfaced when the lands opened up by the development of the Gal Oya basin (commenced 1949, opened 1953) was allocated among Sri Lankans. The Tamil politicians claimed it was their Land of Historic Habitation and thus wanted Non Tamils kept out.

            The number of persons in the Gal Oya scheme in 1981 was 316,692.
            Of that number Non Sinhalese accounted for 74.8% and Sinhalese 25.2%.

            The Sinhalese were settled in Wewagam Pattu, which is 99% Sinhalese. The data source is Prof. G.H. Peries. January 1991 ICES Report.

            The National ethnic ratio is the reverse of the above. Funding is proportional to the National Ethnic ratio. Therefore though the Sinhalese paid the major share the NON Sinhalese (Tamils, Muslims etc) reaped the Major benefit.

            Lind Regards,
            OTC

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              Dear OTC,
              Demanding ones right is not racism, but denying the right of another is racism. By advocating the denial of the rights of Tamils, giving lies and half truths you have proved to be a racist. There is enough land for Sinhala need but not enough land for Sinhala greed. Please visit foreign countries like UK and Canada, and see for yourself how the Tamils are prospering.This is because there is peace with equality to both Tamils and Sinhalese and no violence unleashed on Tamils by Sinhalese.

              Srilanka does not belong to Sinhalese or Tamils, both are immigrants. The Aryan myth of the Sinhala propaganda has been blown to pieces by the recent genetic study conducted by Colombo Medical Faculty, that the gene pool in both Sinhalese and Tamils are mainly South Indian. therefore Tamils have the same right to claim land as much as the Sinhalese. The correct thing for Srilanka is unity in diversity. Unfortunately since independence, the successive governments tried to create a mono ethnic mono religious Srilanka which led to the conflict. Until and unless Sinhalese give up this idea, there will be no reconciliation.

              Of the ancient people, those in northern, north-western and north-eastern areas have been assimilated into the Tamil race, while those in western, southern and central areas have been assimilated into the Sinhalese race. Of the Veddhas, while some are still continuing to maintain their tradition, those in the central areas have become Sinhalese while those in the eastern coast have become Tamils.

              These Tamilised descendants of Veddhas living in east from Sampoor to Kumana are the legitimate owners of eastern province and not Sinhalese, Muslims or even the other Tamils like Mukkuwars. Veddhas worshipped God Murugan with a temple in Kataragama. It is well known that only people in the world who worship God Murugan are Tamils, demonstrating that there was an association between these Veddhas and Tamils.

              The oldest religious place of worship in eastern province is Koneswaram Temple, which has been sung in praise by a saint in Tamilnadu who lived in the 07th century who had never visited but heard of its glory. This is one of the five pre-Buddhist Shiva temples in Srilanka. There have unearthed stone inscriptions in Trincomalee, showing Tamil presence.

              Eastern province was demarcated by British for their administrative convenience. There are ancient Sinhala villages such as Gomarankadawela in Trincomalee district and Lahugala in Amparai district which had been incorporated into it. However the current boundaries of eastern province is the result of Srilanka government taking Mahaoya and Padiyatalawa DRO divisions out of Uva and linking to eastern province in order to create a Sinhala Majority Amparai district.

              It is the Sinhala racists who have created problem in eastern province. They wanted to take away the Tamil majority by planned large state aided colonization of Sinhalese. The census of past years is a proof, where Sinhalese who were only 2% in Trincomalee district and 5% in eastern province at the turn of the century, became 30% in Trincomalee district and 25% in eastern province by 1981. Tamils who were 65% in Trincomalee district and 55% in eastern province reduced to 35% & 42% respectively.

              Now due to murder and ethnic cleansing carried out by the Srilanka government under the guise of the war with LTTE, Tamils have become a minority. Deliberate change of demography is an act of racism. If the Tamils had lived along 60% of the coast of Srilanka for centuries, it is not their fault and to deny them their land is racism. Tamil demand for north-east merger (minus Amparai electorate) is absolutely fair. If any Sinhalese object to this they are standing in the way of justice. Your statement that TULF wanted it as an exclusive Tamil Land is a blatant lie. Even Prabaharan had stated that his future Ealam will be secular.

              You are conveniently hiding the ancient civilsation in Puttalam area, where urn burial sites have been discovered at Kudiraimalai. The oldest religious place of worship in Puttalam district is Munneswaram, one of the five pre-Buddhist Shiva temples. Also names of places in Puttalam electorate are in Tamil showing ancient Tamil presence. Thus the rant of Sinhala racists that one third of the island and two thirds of the coast are being claimed by Tamils does not hold water.

              The oft repeated statement that 50% of Tamils are living in the south with Sinhalese is only half truth. 90% of Tamils living in the south are of recent Indian origin. Also Tamils in south are living under Sinhala rule, while in the North Sinhalese are not living under Tamil rule. Tamils in the south never murdered Sinhalese or burnt their properties or planting Hindu statues at junctions, changing Sinhala names of places to Tamil, like what Sinhalese living in Tamil area have done. Remove Sinhala rule from Tamil areas and restore Tamil rule, and then there will be no objection to Sinhalese settling there.

              I would like to bring to your notice about an inscription in Koneswaram temple which had forecast the fate of the temple. According to it we are in the last stage of atrocity occupied by Senkannan (? Sinkalavan), from whom it will be liberated and restored to Vadugar (? Tamils / ? North Indians). It can happen peacefully by the Sinhalese agreeing to share territory and power with the Tamils or by force from outside if they refuse. Let us wait and see.

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                Dear RAJA,

                The above post of yours is a repeat of the earlier post from you June 13, 2015 at 4:01 am

                My response is under the earlier post.

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              You are sadly mistaken. I lived in Colombo for 44 years before leaving. I witnessed all the riots unleashed on Tamils without getting affected. When I left Srilanka, North was controlled by Srilanka army most of the time and after the Indo-Lanka accord by Indian Army.

              I never supported LTTE, nor gave any money. Therefore I have nothing to do about Adele Balasingham. In fact I was hoping that LTTE will accept the Indo-Lanka accord of 1987. When it failed and fighting started, I left Srilanka. Therefore I became a political refugee.

              Regarding your statement about Wewegam Pattu is only half truth. In 1956 there was a mini riot in Amparai where Tamil farmers who lived for centuries around Kondavattuwan tank, were driven out of their homes by the newly settled Sinhalese, and never allowed to return.

              You cannot deny that Tamils had sovereignty over some areas in Srilanka at the time of Portuguese conquest, which was not returned to them by the British when they left.Though eastern province south of Mahaveli river was under Kandyan rule, Tamil people lived there.

              It is the racist mindset of people like you that are twisting history. The root cause of the problems in Srilanka is Sinhala racism. Tamils are a proud race and not willing to accept Sinhala supremacy. If you want reconciliation with Tamils please give up your attitude.

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                Dear Raja,

                You wrote “Regarding your statement about Wewegam Pattu is only half truth”

                I don’t write Half Truths or Untruths.
                That’s why I am able to provide references.
                I note that you don’t provide references.
                Why is that? Are you writing “Half Truths” and “unTruths”?

                My comment dealt on the CORE issue of the Ethnic problem not on atrocities.

                The core issue has always been about Land.

                It surfaced when the lands opened up by the development of the Gal Oya basin (commenced 1949, opened 1953) was allocated among Sri Lankans. The Tamil politicians claimed it was their Land of Historic Habitation and thus wanted Non Tamils kept out.

                This was of course a “JUST” demand when you consider the fact that Taxation funds Development. The direct and indirect tax paid by a 75% population would be far greater than a similar tax paid by a population a fraction of that size. Thus the Tamil politicians expected the Sinhalese to tighten their belts, grit their teeth and pay the major cost and look the other way while a 7.85% fraction has EXCLUSIVE access to the benefits (7.42% of Tamils live outside the N and E).

                That is the “Fair Play” within Tamil Racist Politics.

                Long before “Black July of 1983” another Black July occurred when The Tamil United Liberation Front, in it’s election manifesto of July 1977, claimed the Northern and Eastern Provinces as EXCLUSIVE TAMIL LAND.

                If you think that is a “Half Truth” get hold of a copy of the TULF Election Manifesto of July 1977 and read it.

                By 1981 the Gal Oya scheme had 316,692 settlers. Non Sinhalese accounted for 74.8% and Sinhalese 25.2%. Wewagam Pattu was 99% Sinhalese and that is where the new Sinhalese settlers were resettled.

                Note

                The following description will give an insight to the development.

                The Gal Oya scheme entailed the construction of the “Senanayake Samudra” the largest man made reservoir in Lanka, to open up 98,850 acres of Uninhabited Forrest Land. The Landless resettled included the Veddhas, Moors, Tamils and some of the Sinhala people who were made destitute when the British acquired their lands by enacting Draconian Land Laws (Waste Lands Act, Crown Land Enforcement Ordinance, Land Settlement Ordinance etc). Today over a million such landless peasants exist.

                Senanayake reservoir
                Has a catchment area of 384 square miles. An earthen dam 3,600 feet long and 140 feet high (it required 2 million cubic yards of soil). Capacity of 770,000 acre feet of water. A concrete spill 1020 feet long has a spill length of 770 feet and height of 60 feet. There are 6 gates to distribute water and a sluice 13 feet in diameter. The water irrigates 120,000 cultivated lands.

                The hydro power station is equipped with 4 generators with a combined capacity of 1 Mega Watt.

                Kind Regards,
                OTC

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                  “Sinhalese have Cause to Celebrate the Golden Jubilee of Gal Oya
                  Colonization Scheme “

                  “The ‘nava pancha bala vegaya’ has been striving very hard to alter the Eastern demography. It has backing right at the top and involves sections of the Buddhist clergy, security forces, bureaucrats, businessman and politicians.”
                  Sinhalisation of East: A reply to Minister Champika Ranawaka No lands for the local Tamils and Muslims

                  by M. I. M. Mohideen

                  “The story of the Gal Oya Scheme is one such example where power was abused to benefit one favoured section of the people, as opposed to the welfare of all the people. The tragedies that occurred at Gal Oya arose from favoritism and discrimination. That is, discrimination against the Tamil people on the grounds of race, religion and language.”

                  Development: Gal Oya scheme – early example of state discrimination against Tamils

                  http://www.nakkeran.com/colonizationeast.htm

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                    Dear Anpu,

                    Since Mr M.I.M. Mohideen or any of the other authors are not present to debate the issues involved would you take the responsibility of answering question that will come up?

                    Kind Regards,
                    OTC

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                      OTC,

                      I am sharing information , I find on the net, that is related to the topic discussed on CT. I do not want to take any responsibility to answer your questions.
                      Perhaps you could put your questions to http://www.nakkeran.com/ and share the reply with us.

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                      Dear Anpu,

                      Thank you for letting us know that even you are not convinced by the info you provided. The Internet is full of such half baked info.

                      According to the Mahabaratha the Sinhalese were inhabiting Lanka long before Vijaya arrived with his 700 followers.

                      Mahabharata, Book 3, Chapter 51, Vasudeva Krishna to Yudhisthira
                      All kings, even those of the Vangas and Angas and Paundras and Odras and Cholas and Dravidas and Andhakas, and the chiefs of many islands and countries on the seaboard as also of frontier states, including the rulers of the Sinhalas, the barbarous mlecchas, the natives of Lanka (wiki)

                      Hence Sinhalese have a History in Lanka that reaches back over 2500 years.

                      Mr Mohideen and ALL the others are unable to establish that Eastern Lanka (NOT the British Eastern Province) was HISTORICALLY a Tamil domain. Thus he Short Circuits millennia of History and takes refuge in a 19th century British creation, the provinces.

                      The Sinhalese Kandyan Kingdom encompassed the whole Eastern Seaboard of Lanka up to Elephant Pass. Hence you cannot “Sinhalise” what is already a Sinhala territory.
                      .
                      Here are some reference material that confirms it.

                      The Dutch National Archives contain a record that predates even the arrival of the British, confirming the above fact. (http://www.atlasofmutualheritage.nl/en/location/?id=813).
                      .
                      “In the kadaim books, Tri Simhale, which denotes the entire island, is divided into three principalities or kingdoms, namely Maya, Pihiti and Ruhunu. The oldest kadaim book, Sri Lamkadvipaye Kadaim, divides the entire island into 114 ratas or countries; Maya has 28 ratas, Pihiti has 43 ratas and Ruhunu has 43 ratas. Boundary pillars mark off the limits of particular ratas.” (quoted from Dr Sujit Sivasunderam)

                      Thus the ENTIRE Island were Sinhalese (the Sinhala word “Tri” means three)

                      “The Kandians had control over five ports at the time the Dutch succeeded the Portuguese on the coastal belt in the seventeenth century: these were Kalpitiya and Puttalam on the west coast and Trincomalee, Kottiyar, and Batticaloa on the east coast Each of these ports was linked to a particular segment of the Kandyan kingdom” (Dr Sujit Sivasunderam’s book Islanded quoting Sinnappah Arasaratnam’s book “The Kingdom of Kandy: Aspects of its External Relations and Commerce, 1658-1710,” p110)

                      When the British arrived Lanka had 85% Forrest cover which was uninhabited. Thus Habitation in the WHOLE Island was limited to 15%. The collective area within the British made Northern and Eastern provinces is 30% of Lanka’s Land area. Which is DOUBLE the Inhabited area of the WHOLE Island.

                      In addition there are Dutch maps that clearly LIMITS the Jaffna Kingdom to Peninsular Jaffna and the territory of the Wanniars to a triangular corner at the North West of Lanka.

                      Strangely Mr Mohideen and all others are SILENT on the EXTREME state aided colonisation that was carried out by the British after robbing the Sinhala Hinterland lands in the Hill country using Draconian Laws (Waste Lands Act, Crown Land Enforcement Ordinance, Land Settlement Ordinance etc)

                      In 1931 the Lanka Tamil population was 610,272 but the Indian Tamil population was 711,028. ALL OF THEM WERE ALIENS. They were Tamils from India. Almost all of them resided in the Sinhala hinterland and still does.

                      Hence though there was no Sinhalisation, MASSIVE, UNPRECEDENTED Tamilisation of Lanka did happen. No One can deny that.

                      More can be said but it is pointless to do so because even ANPU, the information provider, is not willing to respond to questions.

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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            I am sorry that your memory is short as you are a racist. there had been three major state sponsored violence in 1958, 1977 and 1983. i was a resident in Colombo and survived all three and thereby a witness to it. There had been several minor ones such as in 1956, 1966 and 1981. Please do not try to cover up the crime.

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              RAJA

              OTC and truth don’t mix.

              He is a noted liar, plagiarist, bigot and a dimwit.

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                Dear Tamil masquerading as a Vedda,

                Can you be more explicit and give examples?

                Kind Regards,
                OTC

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              Dear RAJA,

              Hope you are well.

              The following comments addressed to you needs a response.

              June 14, 2015 at 1:44 am
              June 15, 2015 at 12:44 am
              June 15, 2015 at 2:29 pm
              June 15, 2015 at 2:58 am

              Kind Regards,
              OTC

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      Raymond

      “This forum descends into uncivilised ,low level attacks and reprisals.”

      This forum should remain as it is for several reasons:

      Men to relieve their
      frustrations including sexual,
      repressive mindset about the people and world at large,
      an ideal forum to expose individual and collective stupidity,
      how badly or ill informed the individuals are,
      an ideal forum to pour out their hatred, bigotry, racism, regionalism, tribalism, parochialism, hypocrisy, double standard, ………
      and how fast some of them want to hit the bottom.

      It will take this island another 2600 years to learn to be wise probably after Buddha’s second coming.

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    The diaspora were displaced and disconnected from their home during the civil war. This call is a show of their desire to reconnect with their home which once ceased to offer them the protection that they needed. They are an extension of the local population and deserve to have a governing body of this sort. Diasporic relations have paramount importance and this ministry would be a great starting point down that road.

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      Kimi “ministry would be a great starting point down that road. “

      Can you explain how this would work. There is already Sri Lankan Embassies all over the world providing services to the Sri Lankan daispora.

      How will the Ministry form Sri Lanka engage with the diapsora worldover?

      Will they set up alternative offices to the Embassies? Or do you expect the Ministry to set up a Diaspora unit within the embassy.? what will they do on a day to day basis to connect with the diaspora.

      isnt there a duplication and ineficiency.?

      perhaps one of the founder members of NRT SL is looking for a job in the ministry?

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      Kimi,

      You have a point there. But don’t forget that the diaspora managed to survive in the new environment, their kith and kin all settled overseas, children get decent education, and the diaspora is able to live a normal life elsewhere. They want to reconnect with their home is it? So they have all the resources in abundance and now they want to invest those monies here, etc. what have they done to reconnect with the other Sri Lankans? Have they worked out an amicable solution with other Sri Lankans living in Sri Lanka. Remember the thousands who are left behind, with no means to live a normal life, no livelihood, no education, no safety, still fighting to get their rights, safety. Has diaspora done anything about that?

      What have they done to reconcile with their oppressors? Have they contributed in anyway to rehabilitate the militants and their children? Have they decently sat down with their supposed to be oppressors and other communities about how to reconcile and live peacefully in Sri Lanka?

      Just look at the objectives of this so called NRTSL ? You don’t see a thing that says anything about others. Just about how they want this and that. To me the video was just hilarious. They are not looking at each other. The man delivering the speech is reading from the print out. No feelings, no solidarity, nothing.

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      Dear Kimi,

      You make an excellent point.

      In fact, for the very first time in either the article or in any of the responses, it is your simple and elegant paragraph that provides a concise, legitimate and logical reason for the need of a formal representation of the SL Government to liaise with the Non-Resident (involuntarily displaced) Tamils of Sri Lankan origin. I fully agree with you on that count.

      In addition, your explicit identification of specific attributes “displaced”, “desire to reconnect”, and “extension of local population” helps deflect, if not dismiss, the various comments of not being inclusive of Sinhala, Muslim, Burgher or other Malay Diaspora, and establishes the need for a SL Government initiative that is focused uniquely on Tamil Diaspora, to pursue corporation among all Sri Lankans, inside and out of the country, towards the betterment of all involved.

      I also compliment you more because you did all that without having to add the “Dr.”, London BA(Hons)”, “LLB” or any such masking-adornments used by many authors and respondents in these public columns, used only as cover of their self-realized inadequacies in either intellectual thoughts or capability in expressing thoughts! Very well done!!

      As I said above, your rationale is very persuasive. On the contrary, Thamba’s presentation of NRT-SL mandate is a far cry, a very far cry, from what you expressed – NRT-SL presentation in the article is totally devoid of any altruistic intentions, and instead seems focused on opening up Sri Lanka as a play-ground for the expansion and merriment of just the Diaspora, perhaps a select Diaspora. (Please check the many responses critically highlighting the seemingly rogue-intentions of ‘“dual citizenship, legal rights to buy lands, holiday homes, banking facilities” as expressed in the article).

      It is such seemingly self-serving objectives presented by the NRT-SL group that raises massive red-flags as can be seen from almost all of the responses except of course the puerile responses of Yakadaya, which reeks of covert, cowardice, and internally manipulated infantile sham.

      What is even more irking is the observation that at least some, if not all, founder members seem reluctant to present evidence of their credentials. Why so?! That makes absolutely no sense if indeed they want to be part of a legitimate group representing Non-Resident Tamil Diaspora!

      Additionally, it is unfortunate that the group has to resort to vulgar gutter snipes such as “Yakadaya” to defend their desire for secrecy. If NRT-SL admin also subscribes to Yakadaya’s opinion about each reader independently calling some phone numbers listed in a third-party site, then NRT-SL is truly bankrupt in intellect! Hope Thamba, Sivalingam or other “founder members” (perhaps even Right honourable Barry Gardener MP) will come to their senses, and provide some background on the group, so that the Diaspora can make an informed assessment in allowing the group to make any representation on behalf of the Tamil Diaspora’s. If not, I assure you the group and even your well intended cause is DEAD-ON-ARRIVAL!

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    Mr. Shanthan Thamba,

    In responding to your solicitation “Today we call upon you all to give your candid opinion on our approach and become part of the NRTSL to work towards achieving these goals”, and in the interest of the required transparency, may I ask you to please present the credentials of the executive menmbers and/or founder members of the group that will help us make an initial assessment as the very first step.

    Is there any reason why you cannot do so?

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      Kumar Rajash

      Now you want to know other peoples credentials.

      First of all what credentials do you have to enquire about others credentials.

      Glad to know your credentials of working as a busker at a petrol station when you boasted that you are from the British commodity market hub.

      Tel us your credentials first. As far as we know:

      1. You are a half naked British.
      2. You have not disowned your Sri Lankan birth certificate but inherited the British passport after living in this country after living as a bogus refugee.
      3. You say you live in the London commodity market hub but I know you are in Harrow.
      4. You are so British that you eat only custard pie, chips, burghers, chillie concarny, milaguwathany, sausages etc.
      5.You relentlessly comment in these columns to destabilize the Sinhalese and the Tamils.
      6. You are proud to call yourself British when the generations old British have given up calling them British.
      7. Paul in these columns has said, you are on duty at the gas station in Edgware Road in two hours. No time to help the poor. I driving past the Edgeware petrol station this afternoon before reading this news. I will meet you there soon.

      Can you expand about yourself further from what have been stated about you herein.

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        Yakkadaya
        “You are proud to call yourself British when the generations old British have given up calling them British”

        You are just showing off your stupidity in public.Let me explain.

        Those who are Born in England are English
        Those who are born in Scotland are scotish
        Those who are born in Wales are Welsh
        Those who are born in Northern Ireland are Irish
        All these 4 nations form part of Great Britain and they call themselves British and they carry a British Passport.

        A foreign national cannot selectively apply or choose to apply to become a citizen of England or Scotland or Wales etc…

        A foreign national is naturalised as citizen of Britain and he gets his British Passport. He cannot call himself English as English is a race.

        There is of course nationalistic tendency for example Scotland had a unsuccessful refrandum to leave Great Britain and become a country of its own.

        I know its all sounds too complicated for a man of low intelligence. NRT SL is the best place for you.

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          I mean Scottish

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            Rajash

            What are you alluding to?

            In this island we have monkeys, we also have donkeys, and then we have Lankies.

            All of these are commonly known as Lankies.

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              NV-trying to teach the monkies and donkeys that they cant be a English Bulldog….

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    These people are professional arm chair do-gooders – Complete waste of time. One of them ex leading LTTE guy who eventually chucked out by Balasingham. Now he is operating a temple and earning money. One is professional talker – What is stopping there to go and do their politics and talking back in Sr Lanka. They have done enough damage to the community – better close this Thosai Kaddai. Their problem is SL group has excluded them from the talks . They all want a job as all unemployed

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      Thanks Gayathri – what you say makes sense to me now. Glad I checked, and Yakadaya has proved the credibility of the group beyond any doubt. Hope the MP takes note and acts inteligently to safeguard his own reputation!

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      Gayathiri

      “better close this Thosai Kaddai.”

      You must be a public racist.

      ” Now he is operating a temple and earning money.”

      Would like a share of the temple and income stream? I suggest you start your own temple business.

      “They all want a job as all unemploye “

      Are you gainfully employed or being busy looking after your grandchildren?

      Didn’t it occur to you that these are retired old codgers who have nothing better to do in their spare time?

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        Native Vedda

        Speak for your own dad and father in law. I doing well Thanks – These guys are typical guys you can find in Thosai Kaddai discussing matters that are beyond their reach and ability – Just fantasy men – ‘Political perverts ‘

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          Gayathiri

          “These guys are typical guys you can find in Thosai Kaddai discussing matters that are beyond their reach and ability”

          They are British citizens, seems talking among themselves in a cold hall. Do they have Thosai Kaddai in the UK? How fascinating.

          Do you take your grand children out for masala vadei or isso vaddei and eavesdrop on these men discussing Thosai Kaddai style?

          Please keep us informed.

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        Veddah why can’t you write facts and figures like OTC? You just write garbage that appears to keep you amused and the readers very bored.

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    I very much appreciated that the number of comments attracted by NRT-Sl. We will carefully evaluate the comments and take necessary steps to make more clear vision and mission.
    I would like to emphasise certain values that we strongly believe and the background of this formation.
    Since January 8th of this year, there are many changes taking place in the SriLankan political arena. These are not mere changes but those are fundamental changes. Since the independence, politics articulated in terms of racism and nationalism. Specially during the Mahinda era, Sinhala Buddhist extreme nationalism become rampant and more virulent form.
    Emergence of Maithiri politics is an another phenomena to counter these fascist tendencies. Strengthening democratic institutions, anti corruption, anti militarization, anti family rule, pluralism are the main plank won the election. This is a new political culture that they called ‘ Good Governance’ through the experience of JR’s 1978 constitution.
    We believe that these changes has to be enhanced and strengthened. We waited so long to reach this point. As a diaspora community, we can play a vital constructive role to stop fascism to take root again.
    How can we play that role? we all have to contribute to build new SriLanka. Thats the only viable way to eradicate all forms of discrimination. Diaspora role is not one way, government have to play its role to accommodate all the communities to work together.
    We NRT-Sl do our best in a small way to fulfill that ambitious venture for our mother land. If someone wants to know our credentials better to join hands with us instead of throwing stones from outside.

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      Siva, you have said it well and clearly and hope positive thinking develops rather the biased approaches that we have seen for decades.

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      who gave you the right to represent the Tamil people. NRT-Sl. This is a mushroom org trying get some legitimacy. Please ignore them. This Sivalingam is a [Edited out]. Nobody gave any legit to these jokers. Another TGTE like fools

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      Sivalingam,

      Your response is at best a mere face saving, gratuitous apology for one! You are resorting to grandstanding with lip-service to ideals, totally disconnected with the article’s specific objectives/targets outlined in soliciting responses. Such reverting to smokes-and-screens reflects rather poorly on the capacity for intelligent decision making, and only further justifies the need to pre-assess credentials.

      Your suggestion “If someone wants to know our credentials better to join hands with us instead of throwing stones from outside” is laughable. I wonder which part of “as a first step, please present the credentials of the executive members and/or founder members of the group that will help us make an initial assessment” is tripping you. First, asking for credentials is not throwing stones. Second, seems your wisdom dictates putting the cart before the proverbial horse – somewhat challenged in its intellect, to put it mildly!

      Now that Speaker/author has vividly shown his shyness to respond, and the group seem quite pleased with the likes of “Yakadaya” (fair guess whether invoked or independent!) defense, may I for the third time, request in good faith “please provide credentials of the executive members of the group, or explain why you have objections to providing the credentials.” Why play hide-and-seek on this issue?!

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      Sivalingam “I very much appreciated that the number of comments attracted by NRT-Sl!”

      Do your math.
      NRT-SL say there are more than 300thousand Tamils live here.(I presume you meant UK)

      This post in CT attracted 150 comments. 99.9% of the comments are people bickering at each other.

      The other 0.1% is attributed to NRT SL monkeys praising their own tail.

      so your comment “I very much appreciate the number of cmments attracted…and you are going to analyse them.. sounds like hollow empty vessel making a noise.”

      Basically the fact is that the NRT SL hobby of yours and your yakkadays has zero support from the 300thousand Tamils in the UK.

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    So far no proper mechanism had been set-up by the Sri Lanka Govt., whichever party was in power, to engage with the diaspora (the term used to refer to all Sri Lankans resident abroad; not only the pro-LTTE Tamils). High Commissions/Missions engaged only with those whom they considered pro-Sri Lankans who supported whichever Govt. in power from a political sense. Such people were mostly individuals or small groups who have little or no following or influence from the wider expatriate Sri Lankan communities, be it the Sinhalese, Tamils or Muslims; and they suddenly appear and disappear depending on circumstances favourable or unfavourable to them. There are organised groups within these communities who are regularly engaged in political, social, charitable and general welfare matters; do not look for favours. Such groups wish to function independently without engaging with the High Commissions/Missions as they do not want to be labelled with partisan politics. The methodology of the Govt. representatives has not been consistent and clear without any policy guidelines to engage with the diaspora. Setting-up a separate Ministry would be sensible and useful in the present circumstances when the need to positively engage with the diaspora is felt and to utilize the abundance of knowledge, experience and wealth available in the diaspora for the benefit of the country. Positives would very much outweigh the negatives if the suggestion is given active consideration.

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      MOHAMED MARZOOK “High Commissions/Missions engaged only with those whom they considered pro-Sri Lankans who supported whichever Govt. in power from a political sense”

      you idiot the same will happen with any ministries.

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        The Ministry has to set-out a clear policy and guide lines according to which it can engage with the diaspora beneficially and consistently. It is ad-hoc approaches that cause problems.
        Yet, my dear friend do I become an Idiot for expressing a point of view in keeping with my democratic rights. I welcome your views too and would comment on them in a decent manner. Hope you understood me wise man.

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          Apologies for calling you an idiot.
          I was supposed to say your “idotic comment”
          Any organisation in Sri Lanka is politicised. So you cannot say the High Commissions are politically biased but the proposed Ministry wont be.

          Anyway you are in bed with Siva …despite the fact Siva and his jokers have excluded the Muslims from their latest hobby NRT SL

          So you are either a typical thoppi changing Muslim or one of Siva’s jokers Masquerading as a Muslim

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            Am I reading the comments of a ‘racist’, I wish to keep away from engaging with one.

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          MR MOHAMED MARZOOK

          This RAJASH KUMAR is a superior vellala British. All the others are idiots for him.

          He hates Muslims.

          You must catch him by the horn or by the …….

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    For what may I ask, Sri Lankan government have enough ministries to deal with these issues, tamil issue should never be put on a pedestal to give these goons a platform. Talk to the government on your own initiative, don’t ask for previlages.
    There is an article that TNA/GTF are wanting South African involvement to discuss these issues. South Africa has the lowest in good governance, the whole system from president to lower rankings are corrupted to the core, they financed LTTE in killing Tamils, Moslems, Sinhalese men women in children, these goons are looking for veneration of velupiss parabahkaran (name is wrongly spelt by choice and lack of respect), South Africa has average daily murders, burglaries over 50 and hour and these clowns want South Africa involved in Sri Lankan affairs, they must be living in different planet
    ? is it called velupiss parabahkaran land, keep on dreaming idiots.

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      The organisation NRSTL is a group of moderate political activists who stood-up against the LTTE despite threats; they are opposed to separatism and wish to work with the Sri Lanka Govt. to while seeking solutions to the issues of the Tamil people and also to help the Govt. to mobilize resources available with the diaspora Tamil community to benefit the whole of Sri Lanka. By setting-up a separate Ministry the Govt. of Sri Lanka can engage with all the diaspora communities; Sinhalese, Tamils and Muslims, to get their co-operation. Let our thinking be not narrow just because a group of Tamils are making a suggestion. It is the sense and value of the suggestion that matters.

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        MOHAMED MARZOOK,

        From your statement “The organisation NRSTL is a group of moderate political activists who stood-up against the LTTE despite threats; they are opposed to separatism and wish to work with the Sri Lanka Govt.”, it is obvious you have some reasonable familiarity, even if not direct affiliation, with the members of NRTSL.

        Could you tell us a little more about the “moderate political activities” you refer to of the specific members – that will help us get a better sense of the capability and importance of these members, and the group as a whole.

        Perhaps more importantly, how exactly are you so familiar with the group that you feel comfortable and confident in being the spokes person (voluntarily or otherwise) to make such assessment? Being transparent on that will help dismiss any speculations that your platitudes to Siva and to NRSTL may not be genuinely independent, or worse, that you may be just another internal manifestation of “Yakadaya,” now with significantly moderated nastiness, having realized the folly of invoking the uncouth “Yakadaya” personification.

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          Am I reading the comments of a ‘racist’, I wish to keep away from engaging with one.

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    Sivalingam”I very much appreciated that the number of comments attracted by NRT-Sl.”

    The opinion and contribution of other expatriate Sri Lankans doesnt matter?

    You have just demonstrated and confirmed what a [Edited out] Tamil racist you are.

    No one take you or your NRT SL seriously.

    Your hobby put other Tamils at risk

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      Mr V.Sivalingam

      This guy Rajash Kumar is a ‘British’ and behaving like a Rattish.

      Ignore this cheap beggar living on the dole of the British and busking in the West End for his puffs and rums.

      Tell all your colleagues to find this guys to provide him the just justice of the British.

      He is curse for the Tamils. A real predator.

      You are a good and a honest guy and you need all the support to take forward your mission.

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    Rajash,

    From the many comments that I have seen, I guess it is reasonable to assume you are indeed a British resident with some modest familiarity to the Group, and perhaps some access, even if only via public channels to the MP.

    I wonder if you could help bring to the notice of the “Right honourable Barry Gardener MP” the contents of this blog, especially highlighting the reluctance of the group to even identify or provide credentials of the executive members.

    That may be an eye-opener that the MP needs for his own self-preservation! Just a thought.

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      Hi Kumar R – NRT SL and their [Edited out] are having a merry time throwing verbal abuse at me for admitting that I am a British.

      The fact is that all of the so called founding members of NRT SL are British Nationals.

      One of them even bragged here on CT about how he went on canvassing for Uma Kumaran in the May 2015 General Election (poor Uma she may have won if NRT SL had kept away from her)

      As per Barry Gardiner he always had the interest of the Tamils at heart. NRT SL claims he attended the meeting. Perhaps he did the honourable thing of making a brief appearance.It is indeed a shame that NRT SL is exploiting his brief attendance.

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        Rajash,

        Any suggestions on how to bring this blog-contents (and NRT-SL’s irresponsible responses) to the attention of the MP?

        Thanks.

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          That is not a problem in this age of high tech. He has website, facebook entry, twitter a/c.

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          Rajash Kumar

          I have responded to your invitation already. Trace through above and get the satisfaction. Come with me to the House of Commons or Portcullis House to experience the real taste of Yakkadaya.

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    Busker Kumar Rajash

    You half caste British do not know the salutation for a MP. Mr Barry Gardiner is still not Rt. Hon but can be referred to as Hon.

    ‘Just a thought- what a pathetic thinking. Why not the THAKKADIYA meet you at the House of Commons with Mr Barry Gardiner MP or any other MP/s or Ministers or even the Scotland Yard.

    Busking in London is legal but not declaring the busking income to the Revenue is a criminal offence.

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      Yakadaya,

      I hate to dignify you by responding to your idiotic notions – however, thought I’d make an exception to this particular one for the humour in it!

      Perhaps you did not notice (or perhpas was challenged to comprehend) that in the article above it is Shanthan Thmba who referred to “Our guest of honour Right honourable Barry Gardener MP”! that I quoted from.

      Take up your issue with Shanthan if you truly care.

      However, I am glad you confirm that Shanthan Thmba is indeed then, in your opinion, nothing but a “”half-caste British” !! You really want such a half-caste British to lead NRT-SL and represent Tamil Diaspora?!

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        Busker Rajash Kumar

        You are a real humbug.

        Simple errors are serious issues for you.

        If Shanthan Thamba made a mistake you should have used your British intelligence to correct it. Instead of cutting and pasting the mistake idiotically. You are now trying to take cover when your stupidity is exposed. It is worse than blind following the blind. At least, Shanthan Thamba is doing some good public work. What the hall have done or doing except for busking and wasting your time in these columns?

        The problem with you is you think you are an all mighty lord.

        You are special for me for crucifixion because you call yourself an outright ‘British’ forgetting that you are even a half cast Sri Lankan. A pompous who does even know the basics is gloating on his asylum British status.

        By the way, I am making good progress to reach you. I went around South Harrow today and made some inquiries. I was told you visited Sambal Express with a lady (both are regular visitors) and bought Indiyappa, Kiri Hothi and Sambolla for £5. Hope you are not a lady boy.

        I will be going around West Harrow tomorrow to find out more about you. If I get your contact details, expect a call or letter from me.

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          yakkadaya “Simple errors are serious issues for you. “

          this man is beginning to jerk in his knees

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            Busker Rajash Kumar

            Yakkadaya never jerks. That is why he is yakkadaya.

            Have you started to wet your pants already. [Edited out]
            If Colombo Telegraph permits I will soon snap shot you both and reveal your Britishness soon.

            Time is clicking on fast to come near you. Definitely not in the Spitafield Market or your Busking petrol station. I will write a A-Z profile of you very soon once I reach your corridors.

            Please wait patiently, without desperately venturing into the Russian Roulate game.

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              “If Colombo Telegraph permits “

              dont you know that is illegal and may lead to censure of CT. This is not Mahinda land.

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                Busker Rajash Kumar

                You British must refine your knowledge and use of language.

                There is nothing illegal about publishing what I stated. It will be libellous only if proved in the Court. It does go to the extent of closure of the CT unless the media is crippled by the award of damages.[Edited out]

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          Leave our resident brown sahib alone man, I’m enjoying his tryhard “British” act, pure comedy gold :D

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    This is great development and it can work very well.
    I can see a great potential here,well done Mangala

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