30 October, 2020

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Tamil Extremists Undermining Geneva Resolution

By Kumar David

Prof. Kumar David

Prof. Kumar David

Some things are incredible but true. Two crazy possibilities have come into the limelight recently. There is a lobby that argues that the Malaysian Boeing 777 was abducted by aliens. The lobbyist’s case is that not even a remotely credible conventional explanation has been offered by Malaysian, Chinese or US authorities. If nothing turns by the time you read these lines, it is not too silly to engage in unconventional speculation, especially if you are young at heart! Unconventional I said, not unscientific. Science can accept that life exists elsewhere in the universe; the poser is how devil aliens got here, given the restriction imposed by Special Relativity.

What the lunatic fringe of the Tamil diaspora is up to is no less harebrained. Recently I ran into Tamil “intellectuals” buggering up Wigneswaran from the radical side, but convinced they were being helpful. “Why don’t you set up a parallel administration (dual power) instead of asking for 13A” they exclaim. Dual power just at the moment when it would lead to shipwreck! Standing Lenin on his head is the Tamil extremist’s upside-down perception of his thesis of getting the ‘next step’ right all along the way. If it was only theoretical ignorance of Lenin and the dual power concept, it can be put down to immaturity and ignorance, but it dovetails with the harm Tamil extremism is doing to the impending UNHRC vote.

Tamil nationalists in London and Toronto are still fighting the civil war for Eelam that others thought had been was lost in the Vannie. I recognise the right of Tamils to self-determination and if secession be their choice, so be it. The issue at this time, however, is less momentous. The immediate issue is should Tamils help get the US resolution in Geneva adopted, or should they undermine it because it does not go far enough. Far enough for ultra nationalists means it is not useful to the Eelam project. Actually the latest draft is good. Clause 8d puts GoSL on the spot and in effect says: “You set in motion an independent investigation or the Human Rights Commissioner will intervene”. Real-politik and the importance of winning Council votes dictate that Tamils accept it as it stands. The next step is if Rajapakse rejects it and unleashes mayhem, or says ‘yes’ but undermines it in practice, thus inviting an international backlash. In this cut-throat game Lanka’s democrats must watch and move one step at a time; Tamil extremism must be kept in check.

Two other strong points in the resolution are the demand that the regime stops grinding down the Northern PC and that it ceases attacks on peace activists, journalists and NGO types. That is to say the resolution explicitly takes devolution (something outside the UNHRC’s strict remit) and human rights in general (in the South and beside the 2009 period) on board. In total, this is a good resolution; quite good enough for me.

Tamil nationalists are drawing inspiration from Jayalalitha-talk of a referendum in the North or hallucinating after the Russian annexation of Crimea. Jayalalithaa is playing politics for elections; she will not let down the Ceylon Tamils, but neither will she transgress constitutional limits; she is no Putin. Crimea has been a part of Russia since 1783, though lost and won in battles off and on. It was ceded by Khrushchev, in a bout of drunken bonhomie, to the Ukrainian Republic of the Soviet Union in 1954. It is flaming nonsense to imagine that there are parallels to the North Lanka–Tamil Nadu/ India case. The better parallel is Indira’s gift of Kachchaitivu to Sirima because of friendship between the ladies. (The transfer has not been ratified by the Lok Saba and has been struck down by the Indian Supreme Court as unconstitutional).

Russia was in a position to take military control of Crimea instantly; Sevastopol is home to the Black Sea Fleet. Over 95% voted in favour of joining Russia in the referendum and the result was so overwhelming that it embarrassed even Putin. (The result must be taken with a pinch of salt for two reasons; irrational populist effusion and a boycott by Tartars and Ukrainians in living in Crimea). Tamil extremists in the diaspora with their heads in the clouds have their feet twisted in the mud when they see parallels between heaven and earth. The real task now is to get the resolution adopted by a large majority, and to anticipate and prepare to deal with the countermeasures the Rajapakses will respond with.

One possibility, especially if the Lankan government is prone to suicide, is to unleash a frenzy of xenophobia against Western embassies and businesses and to confront the minorities. Add to this instability within the government and chauvinists on the streets and the situation becomes chaotic. This will destabilise the regime, but unfortunately it will also harm the country. If the SLMC (at least the few who are not up to their necks in graft) quits and if the CWC is alienated within the government, then the Rajapakse siblings’ grip on power will weaken. The government of Sri Lanka must refrain from any such a course of action whatever its extremist support base urges. It is pathetic to for a government to inflict regime change upon itself and then blame others.

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    Many diaspora Tamils who like to see the TNA gain strength and who resent the vociferous diaspora LTTE-supporters would and should be grateful to you.

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      .
      This again shows that Wigneswaren and Sumanthiran are the only hope for Sinhalese Leaders.

      Once, JRJ had a chance to work with Amir and Co., but he betrayed them and we Lankans have to face LTTE for 30 years.

      Now, Rajapakse’s have a choice…. strengthen Wignes and Sumanthiran to keep Lanka united and in peace.

      OR, play politics with Wignes and Sumanthiran, let them lose their grip on Tamils, and face hardline Tamils.

      :-)

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        “we Lankans have to face LTTE for 30 years.”

        oh what happened to you? what happened to the LTTE worshipping arata

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          “LTTE worshipping arata ” – have become the Sinhalese, worshiping MR – their sole Representative.

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            Hay arata,
            You’re forgetting that LTTE is beaten and our forces are firmly established in the North now.

            We know the kind of jingoism Wiggie spread among his electorate at the PC election for him to get the highest number of votes. The fact that Tamils of the North have elected the wife of terrorist Elilan with second highest majority says what’s in their mind.

            So, it doesn’t matter whether Wiggie and Summa are ‘moderates’ as David says or not. We’re ready to face the separatists.

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          Hey be not that idiotic..

          those tamils too had to face Ltters and in the same time the lanken millitary. Even today, some have still been facing it.

          We the sinhalayas should finally see it correctly. I hate you guys only focus on divisions.

          We now see the light at the end of the tunnel – MR regime to be kept away and nation be free from MR clutches. Then they can decide for their future leaders. Until then, we have to suffer… all kind of fears are tremoring in this country.. so long srilanken HITLER is there. The day people will have to see the man be punished – will be the day of HAPPINESS for entire srilankens.

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        Once, JRJ had a chance to work with Amir and Co., but he betrayed them and we Lankans have to face LTTE for 30 years.

        No Sir, he did not betray them. Cnagaratnam and a number of others even crossed over to help JR, and an understanding was in the offing. But Prabhakaran and his gang assassinated them all – the TULF had go their “boys” too radicalized. Even SJV had encouraged Sivakumaran and others.
        If SJV had lived, he too would have faced the same fate. Once the “genie” is let out of the bottle, you have to face its full wrath. Don’t blame JR for this one – he did enough bad things that you don’t need this one on him.

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      AK David,

      You are a true academic even in your retirement: You come with pet predictions and theories in politics, which has now become your hobby.

      From time to time you take your AK47 and fire: Mahinda-Gota theory, when most people with commonsense see that they are all in it together – the whole clan of Rajapakses fleecing the country and its peoples.

      Now your AK47 is pointed at the “extremist Tamils” and there are some pupils saying aye aye sir to this guru.

      When did you become a guardian of Tamils from your comfortable arm chair in Colombo, or elsewhere?

      David, it is befitting of your brilliant mind to go back and analyze some modern sophisticated power systems and publish in a journal of record rather than wasting your time hanging around the CT.

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        David, isn’t it highly predictable that [Edited out] will come out with some desperate nonsense like these.

        His hymie AK47 is directed at the government and he must be firing blanks because things are going on smoothly in the counry!

        Bugger him!

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        Mr T;
        Good Idea, for the GTE and Parathurai clan.
        So you are proposing to Diaspora Tamizar to come to Sri lanka and Fight for EElaam and Commit Hara-kiri.
        They your Diasporas are not present day Samuirais or Ninjas.
        See Example;
        Pathmanabahan Thambi, Pillyan Machan, Karuna Amman.
        Every where Full of these and Jarapassa Shit eating Pigs type.

        We can see You are are leading One of the EELAAM Battalions.?????????????.

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          Let me know your email address, I shall send you some shit for you pig to eat it and join the EELAAM Battalions.

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            Wathie [jara shit ]”.
            In Sinhalese language it is called “Jarawata Kahinawa”.
            You do it for LTTE Jarapassa Shit eating Pigs and Die arse pora Eeelamists.
            Are you one of those EELam shit Eaters????????.

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    SLMC and CWC is not needed.

    UPFA won almost 2/3 at the election without them. They joined later.

    They are a burden to govt. than a benefit.

    If they leave govt. can pass any law they wish disregarding them.

    SLMC and CWC leaders cannot survive without being part of the govt.

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    Can our inhabitants do a deal through Ms Pillai to give Katchathive to PM Rudra for his Eelaam?.

    But on the strict condition that we have the automatic right to “export” the hardcore Vellalas who want a “Parallel in the North” to the new Eelaam.

    And Miss JJ will be an instant hero too among the world Tamil nation.

    Dr Kumar seems to have ability in bucket loads to grasp the real politics in Srialanka unlike our other able Intelligentsia.

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      Its ideal for the 40k yellow robes in a glass dome to hibernate under a large Boo tree that’s what Gautama did – not kappan karayo. Teach them dont do this pansal dansal crime.Gautama=Guantanamo= Katchi

      The island would be a friendlier place.

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      Thank you for not classifying Kumar David along with the able Intelligentsia, you have in mind. You sound as if though you too are not part of that Intelligentsia, except that your frequent comments in this Forum easily betray that!

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      K.A Sumanasekera

      As a member of first nation, by powers vested in me I now pronounce you a Vellala. You may now kiss Sampanthan’s bottom.

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        Dear Native ,

        Kissing bottoms and licking asses are the forte of your lot…

        That is why your Mates in the West keep firing those, “We will get You and Wreck You ” Resolutions at our great majority of the inhabitant population year after year for nearly five years since Nanthikadal…

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          K.A Sumanasekera

          Aren’t you happy being a Vellala since I pronounced you as one? This is not what my people usually do but an exception.

          What an ungrateful Sinhala/Buddhist Vellala you have become in a short space of time.

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            Dear Native,

            It was only a couple of days ago that I read in one of the columns here that a vellala Kovila on Ms Jayalalitha’s turf disinfected the premises after our Sinhala Buddhist Prez paid a visit to offer a pooja to Lord Siva.

            All I can say to your kind offer is thanks but no thanks….

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              Your Sinhala Buddhist Prez is infected with corruption, racism, genocidal tendencies etc. etc. He needs to be disinfected not the place he goes to. In any event, he goes to Hindu Temples for the wrong reasons. He knows that Buddha, not being a God, cannot given him favours. So, his astrologers tell him to go to India and to Hindu Temples. Poor sod.

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              “kind offer is thanks but no thanks….”
              Mr Romeo so you want to become a Govigame baduva??
              Ae kale edela line ake dala hitiya nede?? (^‿◕)
              so you want kandy lamissce under the nutmeg tree?

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              K.A Sumanasekera

              “All I can say to your kind offer is thanks but no thanks…”

              Once a honour has been bestowed on you I can’t take it back. Henceforth you will be known as Vellala K.A Sumanasekera or
              K.A Sumanasekera Vellala. The choice is yours.

              Sorry you may have to live with it.

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              what a shame of a so called synthetic Sinhala Buddhist president to go after a unforeseen, beggeing help from Hindu gods [ in Tamizar Nadu, malbari Kerala] ??????.

              Is it a suitable and excusable act of a sri Lankan president to kiss hindquarters of a women provincial chief minister?????.

              OH!.

              it is ok as Jarapassas, the shit eating pigs are having Malbari linage.

              Definitely they will wash their Hindu Kovils after shit eating pigs with full of Sins set foot on them.

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              K.A Sumanasekera (Vellala)

              “a vellala Kovila on Ms Jayalalitha’s turf disinfected the premises after our Sinhala Buddhist Prez paid a visit to offer a pooja to Lord Siva.”

              Perhaps Lord Siva ordered the poosari to cleanse the kovil.

              Is there any Vellalas in Tamilnadu?

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          Sumanasekera you Idiot.

          At least the lot you are referring to have a Bottom to Kiss and an asses to lick. But after the election in India you lot including MR & Gotha will be castrated and you wont have anything to Kiss or Lick you animal.

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            kali,

            KAS Valla’s (KA Sumanasekaraya’s) peanut sac will be confiscated by Jayalalitha! Jarapassa’s have already lost em hence they would text “mada-puka-misa-thuna-naa” when they contact the laundry man!

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    An excellent piece! Tamil extremists should keep their gab shut AT LEAST FOR THE PRESENT. It will be silly for them to take Jeyalalitha’s words too seriously!

    Sengodan. M

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      Perfect because they think India is just TN and Modi is having difficulty now at Varanasi after he said Benares- this is india generally only night before we would know how it goes and now with the mango boy playing ball. ha ha may have a hung parliament.

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    The last paragraph is puzzling because it seems to suggest that Prof. David does not want the Rajapakse siblings’ grip on power to weaken. I do not think that is his position. Would he clarify please because this reads like something written in a great hurry?

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      Apoligies for a badly written sentence.
      I wish to say the Rajapakses must not resort to chauvinism against minorities and xenophobia against minorities. (As a side effect such restraint may also stabilise their regime).

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    Jeyalalitha is playing election politics for sure hoping that Modi will surely come to power and she can bargain with him to do something about the court proceedings that is underway for about a decade or so now about her ill gotten wealth much to his embarassment.
    She is not really concerned about the welfare of Lankan Tamils but exploiting the concern of the people of Tamil Nadu who have an emotional sympathy for the travails suffered by their cousins across the Palk Straits in SL.Her only quest is to hold power.

    As for the Tamil diaspora extremists,they have their heads in the clouds hallucinating about Crimea as KD has correctly observed,because they do not understand, know or remember how the West hailed the far right’s Neo Nazi group’s involvement in the overthrow of a democratically elected government in Ukraine not long ago.

    If Kosovo can separate from Serbia, or the people of Gibralter and the Falklands can stay British,South Sudan break away from Sudan why cannot Crimea with it’s geographical proximity,ethnically and historically more Russian cannot part company with Ukraine on the results of a legally conducted referendum?

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    I agree. The LTTE lost everything for the Tamils because of its diehard attitudes. It was not flexible in seeking negotiated solutions. It knew only how to kill. Tamils make a mistake if they continue with this attitude. Those who seek to help must be embraced. The United States is doing good. The only thing that the Tamils have to clutch onto is the Indo-Sri Lanka Pact and the 13th Amendment as it originally was combining the NorthEast. It is what is feasible in the present times. The Tamils who were left with nothing after the LTTE fiasco, with virtually all the young wiped out, should be happy to get the 13th Amendment for it is progress for them now. India is committed to it. The Tamils have the knack for frittering away all that they have in their all or nothing attitude which history shows has never worked for them. The diaspora, in the comfort of their Western homes, should not muddy things up by outdoing each other in their zealotry. Sambanthan is more likely to be listened to than the hotheads both in the North and the diaspora. The UNHCR realises that there is a general human rights problem which afflicts the Sinhalese as well. Before long, Rajapox will start on his Sinhalese opponents. One can only hope that the UNHCR will act to the benefit of all Sri Lankans and prevent a looming tragedy.

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      You are on the spot, Kabaragoya. Tamils out of their greed to possess a ‘pattu verti’ should not lose even the loin cloth that they wear now! They should be realistic in their immediate aspirations and persevere to achieve what is practically feasible instead of crying for the moon like an innocent baby!

      Sengodan. M

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        Agreed,

        Sinhalese are bad and that is globally now known. But the Tamils are worse. It is just that Chanel 4 did not feature them. They kept mum and many cheered when Tamil Kids were systematically murdered by LTTE – all in the name of the Tamil Cause, not much different from the Sinhalese Gonnas supporting MR for the Sinhalese cause.

        We need to keep out of this Gonna vs Gonna conflict.

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        Sengodan you Sinkalam:

        You should be grateful for having something to eat at the moment. Because when sanctions bite you will be eating MRs and Gothas ba..s you idiot. Aanda Paramparai Meentrum Oru Murai Ala Ninaipathil Enna Kurai you Panka Wala .

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    When I saw the throng with LTTE flags in Geneva my heart sank. These morons are giving a reason for the Rajapaksa regime to continue to cite the LTTE threat to suppress and oppress the Tamils in Sri Lanka. These idiots need to grow up and act sensibly for the sake of their brethren in Sr Lanka.

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      No truer words have been said.

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        Has anybody seen pictures of a diaspora protest without LTTE flags? I haven’t.

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      “LTTE flags in Geneva my heart sank.”

      Piranha,

      It only shows the small mindedness of spice colony folk.
      Everybody has been talking about it except the west.

      Why So??
      “These idiots need to grow up and act sensibly”

      Just put a banana on a red and yellow flag for the monkey to wave. that is how it is done in the west- how could you expect a man to write without a pencil?

      Hanuman ki Jai (^‿◕)

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    “Over 95% voted in favour of joining Russia in the referendum and the result was so overwhelming that it embarrassed even Putin.”

    Even Chinese TV crews did not see the so called international observers but said they may be somewhere. Did you somewhere??

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    “The better parallel is Indira’s gift of Kachchaitivu to Sirima because of friendship between the ladies. (The transfer has not been ratified by the Lok Saba and has been struck down by the Indian Supreme Court as unconstitutional).”

    Diego Garcia came with it and was sold to UK- was it to run her thambili plantation 3month non stop???

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      No, the gift of Kachchativu has NOT been struck down by the Supreme Court as yet. It is still pending. It may get struck down when Modi assumes power.

      Sengodan. M

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        Before the Indian Supreme Court taking a stand on the question of Indira’s gift of Katchativu the point is did
        the Indian House of Parliament have a debate and take a vote about the ceding of Indian territory to Srimavo?

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          No it was not ratified by any house of the parliament

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        This is classic. Gibraltar was a gift from the king of Spain to the English for the assistance they provided in the invasion-for the present and the future- [The first of four US Navy destroyers, the USS Donald Cook, set to be a cornerstone of NATO’s European missile defense shield has arrived at the Spanish naval port of Rota, its new home. Russia says the system is a direct threat to its security.- First US missile shield destroyer arrives in Europe- : February 12, 2014]

        Hong Kong was due to the “Opium Wars (Fasi idea) and it was agreement for 99 years so it was returned like the gentlemen.

        Now the Spanish king does not want Gibraltar but it’s the politicians making promises that they know they can never keep to the poor folk who vote for them.

        Will India get it back? Does it have any self-respect is the question?

        Will Modi who is a follower of Swami Vivekananda take it back then – because it was a gift from the heart though Sirima the kussi amma squandered.??

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      Sirima did a great thing by taking the land back from [Edited out], all the hymies who came here from Belgium, Holland, and England, used cowardly shooting and poisoning to kill the males,raped our women, destroyed our temples, burnt our manuscripts and robbed our land.

      Hymies cheated Diego Garcia out of Mauritus (funnily now co-sponsoring the hymie resolution against Sri Lanka at the UNHRC), and gave it to the US wing. It is coming up now, we will get it back.

      This cancer of the earth going around as “God chosen” pioneers of the human race is the curse of the earth.

      WE WILL GET ALL OUR LAND ABOVE 3000 Feet ASL and chase the arrogant mongrels to their “promised lands” whereever they are – not in Sri Lanka.

      TO HELL WITH YOU SICK [Edited out]

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    I think whats missing here is the definition of an “Tamil Extremist”.

    Surely a Tamil extremist is one who harps on Tamil mono-ethnisism n a pluralistic Sri Lanka!

    Tamil mono-ethnisism will talk of “Tamil Self-determination”, when moderation demands multi-ethnic “Regional Self-determination”.

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    Prof Kumar David is talking nonsense when he says that Tamils are hallucinating about the annexation of Crimea by Russia. Tamils in Sri Lanka are prevented by the Singhalese government and armed forces from freely expressing their oinion, which will be known if a free plebiscite is held in Eelam. Tamils have been subjected to genocidal attacks from 1948 by Singhalese mobs and armed forces. It is high time Sri Lankan Tamils ally with our kith and kin in Tamil Nadu and drive our the Singhalese army and colonisers from Tamil Elam. Please note that India ruled by a non Congress government will not tolerate the arrogance of the Singhalese. What is there to prevent India walking into Eelam and annexing it if its secrity is thretened.

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    Dear good Professor:”””Recently I ran into Tamil “intellectuals” buggering up Wigneswaran from the radical side””” Could you please refrain from using such colourfully descriptive language as it brought tears to my eyes. I hope dear Wiggy is OK and healing well.

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      Gracias Hombre!

      The bridge needs the strength for the good of all in the island.

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    David Ayyah,

    You are the eternal optimist.

    David Cameron gave an ultimatum – “have an independent inquiry by March 2014 or else”. Cameron suddenly is deafeningly quiet on the Tamil issues. The ultimatum is about to pass into the confines of history.

    And again you are oh so over the moon about the UNHRC ultimatum, “You set in motion an independent investigation or the Human Rights Commissioner will intervene”. MR and his Mafia Clan are probably rolling in laughter about this latest ultimatum. To make his point even clearer MR only this week arrested Ruki and Father Praveen and also Jayakumari and her 13 year old daughter.

    Wake up Kumar David, MR and Co are impervious to ultimatums.

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      BBS rapper:

      Which planet are you living on. Dark clouds are gathering and a Tornado is about to hit Sinhala Lanka and you are right MR is impervious to the impending disaster . He is living in a HUT but he thinks that the Hut will withstand the onslaught. Lord Buddha help the Sinhala Nation.

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    Dr. David,

    You are absolutely right. The Tamil elements you refer, have been pouring fuel to both set alight glowing embers soon after the war ended and are now doing so to make multiple, but small fires, infernos. They and the Sri Lankan government are playing games unmindful of the consequences to the Tamils, other communities and this country. The Geneva process has at this point reached a stage where Sri Lanka is in for a major peer review in all aspects of it past , present and unfolding future. A welcome exercise. The Tamil elements you refer, both here and the Diaspora, seem to have an agenda beyond what we think is needed and this is providing the grounds for this government to continue on its dishonourable path. This is probably what these Tamil elements and this government, complementing each other in their objectives, want! The a Human Rights Council, cannot be a tool of a section of the Tamils or the government to achieve their ends, is not accepted by both. It has to be a body that listens to all sides and examines the evidence to make its own judgements.

    The news that Angajan Ramanathan, the UPFA front man in the peninsula, has been appointed an Advisor to the CM, NPC, is interesting, though yet clarified and the objective not discernible!

    Dr.Rajasingham Narendran

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      Dr RN

      In the absence of a credible solution for the Tamil Question even after 5 years elapsed since the end of the war and duplicitous attempts to trap the TNA in quandary by MR Regime shed no hope for the Tamils. It is this hopeless situation that is giving strength to the Tamil separatist groups. Nevertheless, I can say with confident that Separatism as a solution for the Tamils is not one that is being harboured by vast majority of the Tamils both inside and outside of Sri Lanka. If no solution is forthcoming and north and east remain militarised zones for years to come, this situation may change with disastrous consequences for all communities.

      As far as I can see, MR regime cannot survive longterm without the presence of Tamil Nationalism. It is a catch 22 situation for the Tamils, if we do not agitate and stand up for our rights allowing complete subjugation, we will loose what we are about as an identity. If we were to continue to agitate, the MR regime will continue for longer! Basically, the Sinhala people are weak and they are incapable of making changes to the political landscape.

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        You said; “… if we do not agitate and stand up for our rights allowing complete subjugation, we will loose what we are about as an identity.”

        I see, Tamils in upcountry do not proceed with the kind of agitation you’re talking about, but they neither face subjugation nor have lost their identity to date. Indeed they are progressing without confrontation with Sinhalas. So, look in the mirror and check whether you’re all miniature LTTErs who want Eelam.

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    Kumar is spot on. These jokers get carried away so much so that they tend to turn the positives into negatives and the negatives into counter productive positives. Some of them believe that some sections of the international community and the well meaning members of the Sinhalese people should think on the same lines as their lunatic fringe.Bensen

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    Prof:

    The argument in the first paragraph is a heartless argument although you might think it is funny. If one of your loved ones was on that ill fated plane would you find what you have written funny.

    The following has a bearing on the Topic of your argument as we need a strong UN Mandate to Stop the Rot.

    ” GOSL argues that the arrest of Jeyakuamri is connected to her harbouring two LTTE activists but that is a lie and truth is as follows.

    Young widows in Killinochi and many areas in the North are living in fear as they are regularly targeted by Sinhalese Amy and Police and taken in at night and racially abused. In one such incident two Sinhalese Police officers were killed by locals which the GOSL have swept under the carpet and have branded the killers as LTTE. The residents need protection immediately and that is why the so called
    Tamil Extremists are pressing for action. So get your argument into perspective and before you pass judgement on an emotive issue.

    Although I agree with the trust of your argument I disagree with it in its entirety.

    You are probably speaking from the comfort of not being the victim of the Sinhalese atrocities. Human beings are driven by emotions and there are two kinds of people and you have to distinguish the two before you pass judgement .

    1) Tamils who have suffered at the hands of the Brutal Sinhalese and have lost loved ones who are either missing or dead.
    a)In the case of those searching for the missing every day that passes is a torture.
    b) In the case of those who have lost loved ones confirmed dead can FORGET but cant FORGIVE .

    2) Tamils who are onlookers just paying a lip service and I am not sure where you fit in but I suspect the latter.

    If you fall into the latter category you are not fit to say that the Tamil Extremists Undermining Geneva Resolution.

    I accept that it is better to have a resolution that will have he best chance of being passed than to have a strong one which might fail to get the majority.

    Let me ask you a question?

    If you the father of ” Isaipriya” or thousands of others like her would you be rational and wait or would you be driven by emotions and want to see justice done.

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      Young widows in Killinochi and many areas in the North are living in fear as they are regularly targeted by Sinhalese Amy and Police and taken in at night and racially abused

      The above should have read SEXUALLY ABUSED.

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    Dear Kumar David,

    The Activists among the Tamil diaspora is a diminishing circle of influence. Most often perceptions drive political debate. The competition among this declining activist among the diaspora is very intense visa vie the western countries. All you have to do is visit Geneva and you will discover their desperate attempts to get some media exposure. However the western nations are fully aware of their strengths and weaknesses and are willing to use them, to pursue the agenda in the geo-political game they are engaged to control an important maritime highway.

    David Kumar does not seem to realize that it was Louise Arbour now the director of the ICG, then the commissioner for human rights along with Ambassador Blake who led the charge to initiate independent investigations into Human Rights Violations at the end of the war on Sri Lanka. The real size and influence of the Tamil diaspora will come to light only when the geostrategic game to control the Indian Ocean Maritime highway is played to the full and that is a in reality in an ongoing game.

    The Author need to recognize that the TNA consist of a leadership that took orders from the LTTE and are still in that frame of mind. The manifesto is a good example of it. Unfortunately Mr. Sampanthan a seasoned politician has trapped Mr. Sumanthiran and Justice Vigneswarran into the TNA to provide some fin’er to a disorderly outfit.

    This is something Kumar David need not worry about it. It took many of us a long time to figure it out and to shed the nationalistic lunatic garb that we adorned after the riots of July 1983. After a long long time in a awful pit of irrational wilderness, political rationality seem to have dawned on us! As for Justice Wigneswarran all we can do is pray for his salvation to get out of this trap.

    The Tamils want the recognition of the north & east as their homelands and want control over this Land in spite of nearly Forty Eight percent (48%) of them living in the South, in almost every district. The vast majority of the Sinhalese people irrespective of cast or creed, would never concede to this.

    The problem the Tamils have to contend is a never-ending struggle. By the way if Jeyalalitha were to succeed the Tamils of Eeelam will reinvent their Right Of Self Determination and soon learn Sinhalese and seek separation from Tamil Nadu to rejoin the Sinhalese. Is this not a lesson learnt.

    The Tamils Nationalist have to get used to Anandhi Sasitharan as their future Leader after all she is the wife of a leader as far as established traditions go in South Asia.

    As for Sri Lankans we are the closest to the west in the whole of South East Asia in outlook and lifestyle. We need to mend fences and discard our fear of the west and seek understanding. As for the west they are making a colossal blunder as they usually do. They are powerful, free and cultured in democratic values. Sri Lankans have gone through a period of aberration, they need help and resources, the west should engage proactively than critically.

    Dr. N. Satchi UK.

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      as a Buddhist, I must agree to your ideas,

      as per my thinking, and experiences with Thamil speaking people of north and east,
      most of them do not want a division from sri lanka and what they want is to live in peace, minding their own businesses like pre 1983s, giving a good education to their heard working kids to succeed in lives. without any hindrances from security forces and politicians.

      it is a very unfortunate that, we have got some heard of Buffalos in parliament to rule us,
      thanks to your Thambi Pirpaharan! and our indian controlled politicians.

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        Ja ja Ah ah, pyar me sangam,

        “The Tamils Nationalist have to get used to Anandhi Sasitharan as their future Leader after all she is the wife of a leader as far as established traditions go in South Asia.”

        As a sailor you fell for the Genève trap`go tell it to the marines`(^‿◕)

        Suma in his wisdom asked her not to speak yet she read her golden words eeeelam (speech written by a die_arse_mora_pora) which the Bihari Ravinatta has objected- will she too go in for rehabilitation on return because the government still has unstinting American support??

        Colaba Choppe ◕‿◕

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    We should not undermine the important role played by Tamil Diaspora in exposing the Truth about human rights violation, war crimes and genocide of Tamils by Buddhist Sinhala state to the international attention.

    The international attention did not come voluntarily. Tamil Diaspora played a significant role in pursuing the West towards bringing the UNHRC resolution to seek justice to the Tamils. Tamil Diaspora is not against to US sponsored resolution but they are asking more from international community.

    Human Rights council members do not always listen and act according to their conscience. They take sides irrespective of what is right or what is wrong. That is the reality. There are two sides. One side is Sinhala, other side Tamils. Sinhala side is represented by Sinhala Sri Lanka state whereas there is no state to represent Tamil side. Tamil Diaspora is the only group that is there for Tamils.

    It is easy to be in the middle and just throw stones in any direction that is convenient.

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      “ The international attention did not come voluntarily. Tamil Diaspora played a significant role in pursuing the West towards bringing the UNHRC resolution to seek justice to the Tamils. “

      “ Human Rights council members do not always listen and act according to their conscience. “

      The Tamil Diaspora was mainly united and functional from mid 1980s. The Liam fox and Malcolm Rifkin agreements during the Thatcher era and the visit to Vanni by Cris Patten when he was commissioner in charge of foreign policy for the European Union are all evidence of their activity.

      Interestingly the western Governments and Japan funded the entire war expenditure incurred by the Sri Lankan state through the Paris consortium almost until the cease-fire agreement. This was also a time of human Rights violations and disappearances in Sri Lanka was only second to President Augusto Pinochet of Chile.

      I may be wrong but I do feel strongly that while the communities do have genuine disagreements, it is the international geo-political players, particularly India which intensified these disagreements to the existing pitch.

      This not a middle position neither am I throwing stones at anybody. War is cruel in many ways and affects us all in different ways.

      Dr. N. Satchi UK

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        Dr. N. Satchi UK,

        “particularly India which intensified these disagreements”

        This is the classic JT who thinks he is even better than the Jewish.You bite and kill the hand that feeds becuse you think you are from outer
        space
        Do you have a world no 1?? India has many a world no 1 when it comes to mooole/deemag; there are several at Pentagon. ham kisi se kam nehi!

        Where did the so called fathers of independence hide rather than fight??

        It’s never mentioned that corporal Silva paved the way for India’s dear PM to be assassinated by Pong on the orders of Premadasa.

        Tamil Nadu alone is not India and has never held sway so tell me why India should help you at all??

        Neither UK nor US would attend to the conflict without India explicit attendance.

        Heard of Sholay the movie; Iyengar Hema Malani is still the golden girl who can win anywhere anytime and dances hubby Dharmendra; bharatha natyam has made your amma thokkai why so??

        Un Salud,

        Javi

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          Dear Javi,

          You seem to know a lot about JT. Your guess that I am a Jaffna Tamil is right. Like
          any community groupings they have their strengths and weaknesses. I have always been very comfortable with the ethos that existed within our community. We are an industrious brave people who can persist through hardships. We care for our Kith and Kin, value meritocracy and are not tied to feudal values and can go on struggling in-spite of obstacles on our way. I am not sure if the Tamils of Jaffna or I are cleverer than the others.

          We love the land of our birth as most people do. I love my village, the District of Jaffna, and the Tamil language and culture. I love the country of my birth and the people who inhabit this country.

          If you did not understand the central theme of what was written, I will repeat – The inhabitants of Sri Lanka need to solve their differences without allowing other geopolitical players. We Sri Lankans are closer to Western values of political equality and the cultural heritage that we imbibed from the English language. This is my opinion, and I am sure that you may have yours.

          I cannot understand your language. Perhaps I am not clever as you. Have a nice day.

          Regards

          Dr. N. Satchi UK

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            DR N. Satchi,

            “I are cleverer than the others.”

            Fools paradise! There are no mutts in this and that was proved time and again by the missionary brothers at Colombo using chetty refugees vs JT’s at Maths- all they did was gave the boy a good spanking and there he was a shining star no one could touch

            The smartest of Jaffna tamils were born and bred in Colombo 7 and that’s where the R Vellala castle is ask Usha she knows it better than you know.
            JT when a high cast man got into the yal devi on a weekend a low cast women took the sleeper right next to him and when they arrived at Colombo the man was threatned to marry – that is your dowry system. Your attitude is like the burraka system.

            The young Sinhala couples used to sit under the umbrella at galle face because they knew how to find a lover but you folk despised that act you were so secretive under the Palmyra tree.

            Don’t tell me your story- keep on dreaming “SODDI” ;)

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            Hola! Dr. N. Satchi UK

            “We Sri Lankans are closer to Western values of political equality and the cultural heritage that we imbibed from the English language.”

            Like redoing/tinkering the A40 and getting the spares smuggled from TN??

            While the Indians purchased the patent rights (like the Japenese eg Sony) for GNAT and beat the Pakistanis who using the best of American and their pilots Today India has built the smallest and most powerful fighter in the world (4th Gen)

            Therefore the monster for a solution seems to be the only available because you are known for internecine wars but never like the English who can always get together because they are eccentric, understanding and always for the underdog.

            You are what you eat. That is why the greatest with a Tamil name is still Ananda Coomaraswamy of AngloSaxon stock and he never married a JT.

            Un gran salud

            Javi

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        “””””I may be wrong but I do feel strongly that while the communities do have genuine disagreements, it is the international geo-political players, particularly India which intensified these disagreements to the existing pitch.”””””
        Dr.N.Satchi
        It is not secret that international geo-political players including India, US, UK, Japan, Russia, Pakistan and China contributed towards the current status of the island. However, it is not simply disagreement between communities to put the blame on these geo-political players. It is not the geo-political players seeded the genocidal intent of the Buddhist Sinhala fundamentalism that lead to the current status. If there is no geo-political interference into the affairs of this island, Tamil community would have been wiped out of this island by the Buddhist Sinhala Fundamentalists long before.
        Dr.N.Ajith

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    This point by Kumar David has been made by Elilini Hoole in her article “Tamils Of The Vanni – Betrayed By All” of 23 May, 2013: https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/tamils-of-the-vanni-betrayed-by-all/

    She wrote:

    “It really bothers me that the protest depicted by photograph titles like ‘Tamils… gathered around photographs of those killed during the Sri Lankan civil war’ is being orchestrated by people carrying the LTTE flag. Anyone who protests against massacres of Tamils in 2009 should by no means do so under the flag adopted by the Tigers. In 2009, the Tigers forced innocent Tamil civilians to remain in the Vanni – under pain of death – as a shield.”

    If there is a positive vote in Geneva as I hope there will be, it will be because of the need for justice for the tens of thousands of innocents killed. At this moment as Sri Lanka argues that the Tigers are regrouping and cooks up incidents like that involving Fr. Praveen, Ruki Fernando and Mrs. Jeyakumari, these red flags with guns will ruin any chance this resolution has. For no government wants a re-emergence of the LTTE.

    I thank Kumar David for making this point which seems lost on the many Tamils waving Tiger flags.

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      Dear S.R.H. Hoole

      It appears that you are mainly reading your family members writing only. I did not see your replies to those who wrote that it is for Tiger flag carrying Diaspora’s votes the British government and the Canadian government are acting like this. During the wartime, Diaspora cordoned and gripped the London town to make British people to take a look at 300,000 being massacred in Vanni. It did not work. You were after your VC post. Now, you are making propaganda for the government saying it LTTE stopped the Tamils(used as shield) so that they got killed by Army. Army was using chemical bombs, cluster bombs, carpet bombing and etc. These all are well known methods to kill the people in large numbers and at large area. You or your family member did not write an essay about army taking the hospital coordinates and shelling exactly to coordinates. Now as a very cheap technique you are trying to insert your unknown family member’s article into Prof: Davis Kumar’s article to gain fame; and in addition to that you do claim that your thought was ahead of David’s article. If you claim that killing took place because LTTE stopped the people, what is your answer to the question is there is a need to conduct a war crime inquiry on GOSL for having killed the Tamils in Vanni? Do you trying to say it is absolute waste or in addition to that it is biased towards GOSL to have this UNHRC proceeding? Do you think the flag carriers may not have read the clause in draft says that both party committed crime? Do you think LTTE supporters are dump and trying to have an inquiry invoked against them, but the GOSL is so smart like you so that is why it is only one trying to avoid it? Don’t be in a doubt that what kind of defense that you and GOSL are taking and how is it going to work against you. Isn’t that you are trying to say the the Army killed the Tamils well knowing after LTTE was using them as shield. Do you thing a western police man can shoot a victim that he/she was taken as a hostage by thug? Remember your defense is going to inflict any damage to LTTE, your intentions will be well established in the inquiry. This is how the army framed the Gobi’s case in Jeyalumari’s house. Many times army planted condoms in Sritharan M.P.’s office to prove sex and prostitution in his office.

      You know one Gobi was killed by army in the prison just before the UNHRC sittings started. Everybody’s speculation is that there is no second Gobi that gave any reasons to arrest Jeyakumari and her child. No lawyers allowed seeing them but the reason army gave at UNHRC to hand over the child for the correction center is that nobody wanted take care of it.

      You never wrote an essay to say how the army took precaution to protect the people before it started wage its’ war on the armed freedom fighters. Now you are defending the GOSL by giving an explanation how the Tamils they got killed in Vanni. Please do you think it is absolutely necessary that we are in need of your or your unknown relative’s judgment before the UNHRC investigation start? Is that why you inserted that article here? If the investigation comes, you can go and your witness as “ Tamil got killed because LTTE pulled Cannon shell out of the GOSL cannons and sprayed on Tamils, but the Army did not shoot the shells”.(let them to start the investigation and tell how people go killed).

      But for the time being stop your twist of David’s points that he is asking the Tamils to leave the western nations to lead in the UNHRC. His simple advice is “it is not LTTE supporters, friendlier persons have to approach the western countries to make them advance the Tamil cause. Western countries do not see LTTE as their friend.” You are taking that advice to carry out your maximum attack on the LTTE supporter’s (diaspora’s) intentions. You are trying to portray LTTE supporters (Diaspora) are as hypocrites. You are trying to tell when LTTE killed Diaspora supported, but, when Army killed, but they want inquiry on that.

      You were working for you VC job, when these diaspora, to save its brethren lives, traveled thousands of miles from Montreal and Toronto, stayed in the buses for hours on the borders and went to Washington. While your family member wrote a shameless article about the women who laid their lives for the freedom of their race, those women enduring continues torture and rape in hidden parts of the prison. You did not write one article here about Jayakumari’s arrest but almost all Sinhalese writers have condemned the arrest. Can I ask you a question, in that situation, what you think about you political analysis articles? Now you are shamelessly bring your family member’s article to compare with David’s’ article.

      I don’t agree with all the points David’ raised here. But there is no denial what kind person he is. In any standard( intelligence level, caring the human rights, being honest in writing and thinking….), we can not believe that you are not comparable at all to David; neither anyone one in your family writes who an article like that. Please do not compare ill minded writings with his political analysis with those we agree or not, we all like to read. Please don’t bring sewage pit rotten stuff to holy altar water.
      For David Kumar: The international community agrees LTTE started the armed struggle. In many times they did not deny the necessity to armed struggle. They did not get along with the techniques LTTE used.

      Much earlier than the start of the UNHRC 2012 sitting, the government sent out its messages not anyone to participate on that. There were open threats and falsified reasoning of why TNA should not participate on that. One of the reason given was TNA is being treated as the front end of the LTTE, by the western countries. But I argued that TNA has established in 2010 election as the Tamils sole representatives, so they should participate on that. I came to know that TNA booked the ticked. Then Sampanthan was given called and given a threat that there will be consequences if he participates. He without consulting the team cancelled the trip. Suresh, Mavai… came out with angry responses. Sumanthiran explained that the westerns embassies advised them that their present in Geneva is not needed. With some pre-planning to avoid last minutes debacles, in 2013, and 2014, TNA sent its representatives. TNPF’s Kumar, the more ardent supporter of the LTTE than the diaspora, participated in those two meetings. This, so far, did not affect the outcome.
      I, my self has written (somewhere else in Tamil) that it was not a good idea Ananthi led the protest in front of David Cameron in 2013 Sep. But Ananthi went to Geneva. If one noticed it, it is western NGOs took Ananthi to UNHRC. It is the NPC, CV’s office, selected her representation them in UNHRC. Isn’t Ananthi is equal to 10,000 tiger flags inside UNHRC’s meeting room? Then what is point of criticizing the tiger flag carriers, anyway who does it just by impulse only.

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      That is entirely correct.
      Another commentator elsewhere in this forum has also expressed his concern from UK having now mellowed from the harld line position he often took previously now says .”…. more often than not perceptions drive political debate”.
      It is certainly hartening to note the change in the attitude of such people.

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    There is something constructive being written in this column.
    Yes. Forget the N&E merger.
    There are better and sober ways to get around this instead of depending and waiting for this one & the other come to power.

    As said in here, whole tamil cause has been enrapped or lost in eelam flags…..
    As long as eelam flags flutter the Rajapakshes would not give in and majority will remain irritated.

    Then, what future for the new breed of your Tamils who are born?
    Think fair and act responsibly as Sri Lanka is for all with no demarkation or being his or hers.

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      You’re pouring water on duck’s back.

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    I am a Sinhalese who support a separate state for tamils. But all tamils in Colombo and south should leave. so many bombs were planted by them we cannot trust them. also Angelo Mathew should not be the captain of the Sri Lankan team.

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      Asitha,

      I agree with you. Tamils don’t trust Sinhalese, Sinhalese don’t trust Tamils. Two states, one for Sinhalese and one for Tamils. All Tamils should go to North East Tamil State and All Sinhalese should leave from North East to South west.

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        Ajith,
        Tamils may call themselves Jaffna Tamils, Batti Tamils, Colombo Tamils or whatever name they like but inside they are all original ‘Tamil Nadu’ Tamils. And they all speak the same language and have the same culture. Besides, of 70 million or so Tamils in the world, around 90% live in Tamil Nadu. If that is so, what better place for a homeland or Tamil state or whatever for Tamils than Tamil Nadu?

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      you wanted to mean tamil speakers, right?

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    Ajith:

    You are right mate I agree 150%.But make sure you deport Minister Karuna first. He is trouble because it was him who planted the deadly bombs in Colombo and he has many more in his locker by given to him by Gotha for safe keeping. I don’t know if you believe in Reincarnation and if you do see you in next life as I may be born Sinhalese as a punishment for all the sins I have committed in this life.,

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    Asitha:

    You are right mate I agree 150%.But make sure you deport Minister Karuna first. He is trouble because it was him who planted the deadly bombs in Colombo and he has many more in his locker by given to him by Gotha for safe keeping. I don’t know if you believe in Reincarnation and if you do see you in next life as I may be born Sinhalese as a punishment for all the sins I have committed in this life.,

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    The urgency of the Tamils(in David’s words -LTTE supporters) is because of the 66 years of GOSL’s failure to recognize their situation. It may or may not an excuse for the rush. If you see a food van coming to a refuge camp which did not had any supplies for days, you know how the refugees will behave. It is going to deter the distribution, but it is the distributor who has to understand the situation. Western countries who gave the arms to GOSL, now need to understand the Tamils impatient behavior too.

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    Thanks Prof Kumar for this excellent analysis.This problem has always been the bane of Tamil politics:Even when they have a strong hand, they over-bet and over-play their hand and lose everything at great cost to the Tamil people as a whole

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      Stanislaus:

      You are a betting man are you. Have you heard of max fixing.

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        it should read Match Fixing

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    Thank you AKD for exposing the Tiger Campaign that alienating is alienating Lankan Tamils further from International campaign. It was Tamil extremism that made us to fall prey for the SL trap whether it was with CBK, Indo_Lanka accord, Oslo. Kajan Ponna cabal is destroying the reasonable position of Tamil National Alliance. Hope and pray that common sense prevail. Also hope that no Sinhala masses are affected by this except the Rajapakse and his cronies

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    You seem to have difficulty not only with your spelling but also in understanding metaphors!
    Ah well!

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      David:

      I wouldn’t even put a penny on your understanding. When did the Tamils ever have a strong hand. For your information Tamil Fortunes can only be fixed ( Match Fixing) by others Got it.

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      “understanding metaphors!”

      Shakespeare is dead but we are meeting the met a 4.

      Lankan Sporting Sam was summarising your 4 line paragraph in three words;
      Betta Danda Baha! (^‿◕)

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    Hay professori,
    We’re eager to hear the latest news on ven Sobitha front.

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    I think there are other consequences of this “UNHRC” resolution that Tamils, and Kumar David have ignored in their haste to get vengeance from the Rajapaksas. The new resolution extends the period right back to the whole war. That means, the TNA members also become open to accusations of all the crimes committed by the LTTE as they were the mouth-pieces of the Tigers. At the moment, the world has not looked seriously at the 40,000 killed figured that was put out early on by the Ban-ki-Moon panel. But now, as you saw from the articles that appeared (some in CT, some in SL guardian) by various people (e.g., Gerald Peiris, Michael Roberts, some Canadian and UK academics, the US experts who examined satellite data, the 40,000 figure of deaths is being questioned Figures as low as 4000 to 7000 have been proposed, and there is no real proof of who killed whom; and we all know that it was the Tigers who held our people as hostage, without allowing them to escape, because that was the plan. It was hoped that the west would intervene, using R2P arguments. Even the testimony of the Vanni Doctors has been questioned by a group in England and the Dr. has made statements under oath. The Channel-4 movie is not believed by Indians and there is increasing questions being asked.

    So, in my view (a) A too detailed investigation will not sustain the position that has been built up, which is advantages to the Tamils (b) too detailed an investigation will also inculpate Sampanthan and others who were in collusion with the LTTE; just as the Sinhalese leaders have to take the culpability for the HR violations on their side, the Tamil leaders will have to accept the guilt on our side as they endorsed the LTTE (c) All this will just create new, enormous political turmoil for most of us Tamils who live in the Colombo suburbs and the south. if there is another pogrom, with the army also working against us, the WEST will condemn it in no uncertaibn terms, but the WILL DO NOTHING. Just look at Crimea where their power balance itself is at stake.

    So, I think it is good to keep this threat of an international investigation on the burner all the time as a control on the Rajapaksas, but the threat should never be carried out. If it were carried out, it will expose a can of worms for both sides, and inconvenient truths for both sides, and another period of grate difficulty for the already impoverished Tamils. DONT for a moment expect the British, the US, or even India to intervene militarily (as in R2P, i.e., right to protect minorities etc) in Sri Lanka. They will ONLY TALK as if they will help us. It is ONLY talk. The IPKF was really an R2P effort, but it actually committed more HR violations in that short time that the whole SL army did in 30 years.

    The US and the WEST as a whole are fatigued, bankrupt, and beaten. The only war the US won since WWII was against Granada. The only war the UK won was against Falklands. Indians can’t even fight their own Maoists and Naxalites, leave aside helping us.

    So, don’t rush forward with glee for this UN resolution which is all hot air with no teeth. WE Tamils will regret it if a proper investigation were held, under the new terms where the period of scrutiny has now been extended from the last phase, to the whole war.

    Remember, we Tamils have to live in this country, unlike the rich guys who headed off to the west and now shout slogans and wave Tiger flags in Toronto and London, usually on pleasant summer days. The Tamil leaders, whose kith and kin are now abroad were the ones who knowingly pitted a small minority (i.e., tamils) against a HUGE majority where we had to face 10 to 1 ratio. The net effect was, we are much weaker now, numerically, and otherwise.

    We thought we could get help from Tamil Nadu, from Milbrand, from Kushner, from Ban-ki-Moon who sent Vijayar Nambia to merely give a phone call to Kohona or who ever, while hiding inside an airport toilet!!!!!

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