By Kumar David –
Prof. Kumar David
The JVP is a Sinhalese party; that is its composition and the makeup of its leading committees. There is no denying that it is also leftist and strives as best as it dare to take a progressive attitude to minority (Ceylon Tamil and Muslim) issues. Historically though this is not true, especially during Wijeweera’s period in the late 1960s and early 1970s. Rohana was not progressive in his thinking on the national question and hostile to plantation Tamils. The passage of time, the stark example of JR-UNP racism and internal influences such as Lionel Bopage mellowed this roughness and today’s JVP is by no means a chauvinist or racist party. I feel confident and comfortable in saying this both as an assessment of its current ideology and public stance, and from some familiarity with individuals.
But there’s still a problem. What’s that? This is what I want to try and get across today. My first point is that the JVP is afraid of the Sinhala voter. No that doesn’t sound quite correct. Let me try again: The JVP sees the Sinhala petty-bourgeois and the Sinhala working-class as its target voters and fears alienating this constituency. That’s better but still incomplete. There’s more to say. Taking a fair/principled/progressive (choose what adjective you like) stance on the national question would be electoral suicide the JVP thinks. Is this valid? Well yes and no as I will explain but before that let me say that every Sinhalese party and leader (UNP, SLPP, SLFP and the in-the-GR-MR pocket dead-left LSSP, CP and DLF) is of the same opinion and functions in the same way. I don’t think Ranil, Sajith, DEW, Tissa and Vasudeva are racists, but they are without integrity on the national question for fear of the Sinhala electorate. When Gota says he can’t accede to devolution because the majority oppose it, does he mean that he himself is not opposed? If so he could set himself a one year target to educate the people and overcome the problem. If he is sincere, why not? I am not sure whether GR and MR are racists in character, but it is certain that they have placed themselves at the service of Sinhala-Buddhist chauvinism as an election winning strategy.
And the strategy has paid off! There was a Sinhala-Buddhist (SB) landslide in the November election and it went to Gota exclusively. I have estimated that 72% of SB and two-thirds of the non-Buddhist Sinhala vote plunged to Gota. Broadly we can say that only a quarter Sinhalese opted to take an anti-chauvinist stand in the Presidential election. Sad but true; we must face facts otherwise we will not be able to deal with the challenges the facts pose.
Since there was an SB landslide was the JVP right in avoiding an anti-chauvinist stance? Had it confronted chauvinism would it have failed to poll even the miserable 3.5% that it did? No! The JVP would have got not one vote less if it took a firm position and spoke against chauvinism. Not one SB voter who supported the JVP would have run away. The JVP pulled not one vote from the chauvinist camp by ducking! And the same is true for Sajith. He would have done equally well (badly sic!) even if he did not play the “national security state” sham sponsored by GR and even if he supported devolution of power in the N &E. This then is my bottom line: Chauvinists will never support the JVP because it is identified with leftism, socialism, Marxism, a radical programme etc. The future for the JVP lies in defeating bigotry and raising the consciousness of the masses; never in shielding its eyes from the real world. (Or it can give up trying to be a Left party, but it cannot combine the two).
The country is going through a SB backlash and the worst response is to shrivel up and cringe in the face of bigotry. If the JVP (and the UNP) refuse to capitulate to chauvinism, the stronger they will become as time goes by. The LSSP and CP gained in moral stature so long as they resisted racism; their fall belongs to a later era after they capitulated. Had they not yielded, they and the country would have been better off today. The JVP must denounce narrow-mindedness and campaign for devolution and the rights of national minorities. It will emerge stronger. It will not gain one chauvinist vote by playing peek-a-boo with the national question; it will only sully its integrity and loose its radical and revolutionary base. “One crowded hour of glorious fame is worth an age without a name”.
HL Seneviratne / January 15, 2020
Thank you for this lucid understanding of the JVP and others who, while not being racists themselves, are still acting like racists out of a false fear of the Sinhala Buddhist vote. If the JVP are to achieve the status of a major social force, they must heed exactly what you say. It wouldn’t hurt to come out and apologize for their party’s heinous crimes, and the racism of their early days.
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Don Stanley / January 15, 2020
Dear HL Seniviratne: as we saw during the Easter Sunday carnage staged by the US owned ISIL in Sri Lanka, religion (Buddhism, Christianity, Islam and Hindusim) is being weaponized by external parties who have geopolitical interests in the Indian Ocean – in order to divide the communities it and set up military lily pad bases.
Saudi Arabia has been funding Islamists in Eastern Province and Mannar on CIA instructions while US, India and Nroway funded setting up of BBS, Ravana Balaya, Ravana Senai and various new Chruches in post-LTTE Sri Lanka. Also, USAID has been funding civil society groups to ferment narratives to divide the islands diverse ethnic and religious communities and Weaponize religion. Playing Identity politics to divide and rule is an old colonial strategy.
As Iran has said the US must be driven out of the Middle East and Indian Ocean regions where it is weaponizing identity conflicts – this is the backdrop of the SB fundamentalism in Lanka at this time..
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Dinuk / January 16, 2020
Seems that TNA and SLMC leadership, as well as, JVP have been bought and are the Cat’s paw of the US project to use IDENTITY POLITICS (ethno-religious, gender, LGBTQ etc), to divide, Distract the general public and set up their military logistics hubs in the Eastern Province that US Special Operations Forces (SOF) have designated as the Islamic Caliphate in Sri Lanka so that Trinco port is in easy reach! Identity politics and human rights tall tales from America and its funded NGOs to Divide, Distract and rule is the name of the US game in South Asia these days. The American deep state morphed into a Rogue State is out of control at this time! Check out Tulsi Gabard this..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxWxDaAVm5E
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JD / January 18, 2020
I think Dinuk is right. Even Chinese and Russian socialism were not Tribalist, Ethnicity sensitive. Now, there are socialists and even Trotskys who are Tribalists. So, this TRIBALIST – SOCIALISM or TROTSkism must be west made.
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Native Vedda / January 16, 2020
Don Stanley
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“As Iran has said the US must be driven out of the Middle East and Indian Ocean regions where it is weaponizing identity conflicts – this is the backdrop of the SB fundamentalism in Lanka at this time”
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Were you born yesterday?
The Sinhala/Buddhists racists are very capable of weaponizing every little thing, Citizenship Act, Language, Constitutions, democracy, library, blood of Sinha, education, Buddhism, Buddha sasana, Buddhist monks, history, archaeology, police and armed forces, medical practices, cafes, temples being converted into special crematoriums for dead members of saffron brigade, judiciary, …. presidential general amnesty/pardon, …. …
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Vishvajith / January 17, 2020
HL S, always good reading you.
THE JVP apologized to the Nation in Parliament for their heinous crimes.
As for their racist past, it is time to apologize and follow Kumar’s advise.
Btw, The Rajapakse’s are also victims of the SB mindset. However politically powerful they are, they are impotent in dealing with the National Question.
Listening to Hirunika, taking the sword to the LTTE wasn’t a Rajapakse Idea, it was egged on by Champika Ranawaka. Champika awaits in the wings to displace the Rajapakse’s when the time comes.
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Native Vedda / January 17, 2020
Vishvajith
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“THE JVP apologized to the Nation in Parliament for their heinous crimes.”
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Could you cite the source for your information.
Three or four years ago Anura Kumara Dissanayaka in an interview to BBC Sinhala service not only he owned up crimes generally but also apologised for it on a Thursday. On the following saturday a JVP old guard (sorry cannot remember his name) refuted Anura.
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“Btw, The Rajapakse’s are also victims of the SB mindset. “
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The Rajapakse clan is part of the problem at least since 1950s however in the past 15 years they have become the problem and they are the problem. The greedy clan not only creates or passively consents to new problems but also benefits politically and financially. Therefore their Sinhala/Buddhist mindset and racism help them to hide their corruption, brutality, illegal activities, ………….. It continues to work very well for the clan and their cronies and b***s carriers.
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Champika Ranawaka is loud mouth, selfish, void of any gray matter, … and he is not loyal to one ideology, one party or to himself.
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JD / January 15, 2020
Joseph Goebbeles is living and kicking in the Sri Lankan civil society/Open society/democratic movement to subjugate, oppress and to suppress the Sinhala-Buddhist (Sinhala Catholic as well) culture and civilization. Racism, Tribalism and extremism has infiltrated into the socialist movement. West living aristocrats are preaching as per goebble vision. Sri Lankan socialist political parties no longer can stand alone without the help of either UNP or SLFP. Bahu and Jayampathi say we are there primarily to earn a buck. It is the same with Pohottuwa too. National Candidate project even with the help of Neo liberal trade practices are not adoptable to the farming poor. What Kumar David says is JVP is providing strength to the UNP – an anti-sinhala Buddhist party which tried to come to power by dividing the sinhala buddhist vote and failed miserably. Now, minority extremist and religions fanatics are looking for other ways. AKD and his gang
will become one seat party, they also won’t be able to come to power next time (not the on coming election) with another majority party, most probably UNP. One reason is they think that Listeners would believe them. JVP is just like the rest of the 225.
Anyway, Sri Lankan paliament can not be reformed via democratic means. They all want status quo protected. If a non career politician can say the right words to the Rural voter, the story will be a different one. Sri Lanka needs a to do it, but none from the corrupt parliament. Ranil and his gang is obsolete long long ago.
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Jayasuriya / January 15, 2020
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Native Vedda / January 16, 2020
Jayasuriya
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Brilliant.
Thanks for keeping it brief.
Please keep up your good work.
I am right behind you.
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Old codger / January 15, 2020
Dr. David, it seems, has finally realized the underlying truth if Lankan politics.
All politicians want to win. So they have to pander to the unwashed peasants and their hang-ups about being driven into the sea, etc etc.
It is political suicide (as Ranil did) not to kiss the bottoms of the Hamuduruwo class /bash whatever minority it is currently fashionable to bash. Even the currently canonised Mrs. B had her evil Borahs, Sindhis, and “registered citizens” , who still control what she called the “commanding heights” of the economy. (That alone proves the economic incompetence of the Sinhalese.). Let us not forget that the UNP had creatures like Cyril Mathew in it.
Still, as KD says, the SB electorate needs to be re-educated. How did the Left become a major political force pre-independence and even for a few years after? Because , whatever else they may have done, the Brits did not allow Buddhist monks to Talibanize education. The education system must be secular. Gathas must not be chanted nor the Anagarika sainted with state money.
This will take a couple of generations, and is not likely to start given present politics. So what to do? Simply wait until Sinhala Buddhist anarchy invites the attention of a new colonizer. That’s how the Portuguese got in, wasn’t it?
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S. C. Pasqual / January 15, 2020
JVP will get less than 2.5% in coming general election.
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Maharage, / January 15, 2020
Pasquuuuaal ….dumbo..!!
.. What a stupid comment ???? Do you at least understand the article?
… You must be either Namal baby or someone closer to MaRa family under a fake name ….displaying your vulgarity and low IQ
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Simon De Silva / January 16, 2020
That shows that the nation is filled with idiots. Or not ß
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If they would get more than 5% , this country would have moved towards an another singapore. Believe or not that truth is that.
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S. C. Pasqual / January 16, 2020
Mr. Simon De Silva,
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Yes. Of course………
They tried to make a Singapore out of us on 1970.
And again in 1989/90.
People who send overseas for training by JVP (Premakirthi, Thevis Guruge, Vijaya) are still there.
And communist countries are the most developed and most advanced and most successful countries in the world.
Trying to find out how Singapore become a communist country…
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Good Sense / January 15, 2020
Again and yet again Prof. Kum is dragging ethno-religious chauvinism and chides various parties for not taking the bull by the horn, so to say. Bluntly, what does he want the JVP to do now? If what Prof. Kum wants is done by the JVP, would that mean that for instance it can earn the regard and respect of the voters in the Northern and/or Eastern Province to vote for it in, say at a Parliamentary election to the extent of returning some members ? The answer lies in is whatever JVP does, people of the likes of Prof Kum has already branded JVP as a Sinhalese party. What sin has the JVP done to deserve such branding now? Then where does the chauvinism come from? Yes! All politicians do not want to commit electoral suicide and that includes even the TNA. Prof Kum goes to the extent of expecting Prez GR to do some campaigning or educating the Sinhala voter, say for a period of one year and then make him to say Aye to what Prof. Kum has in mind? Anybody reading Prof Kum’s article tends to understand or misunderstand that a stance for security is a stance for chauvinism. One needs to suffer some injuries from a terrorist bomb blast or see people near and dear in sealed coffins to understand what security is first hand. The reality in life is that you won’t get everything you want. So Prof. Kum and the likes must not try to bend political parties to their points of view in various matters but engage upon themselves the noble task of promoting the necessity of One Sri Lanka devoid of any ethno-religious divide and hate, promote meritocracy and the need o respect each other.
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K.A. Sumanasekera / January 15, 2020
Is talking against Vellala Politiccas in the TNA Alliance getting a Federal Homeland with all Lands and Police under them to run it, while living in Colombo .. Racism?.
If it is , so be it.
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I have never seen or heard any Sinhalese in Wellala Gardens talking bad about about the Tamil brethren there, lat alone the Tamil brethren in Udu Pussellawa, whom Wijeweera Sahodaraya didn’t like ,if Dr Kumar is right..
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I haven’t seen Sinhala People talking bad about Tamils even any other parts .
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Tamil kids can learn in their Mother tongue , They have Universities where they can do higher Studies in Tamil.
Do the Sinhala People complain ?. No Not at all.
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So where does Dr Kumar get these bad thoughts about Sinhalese. been Racists?.
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I wish people like Dr Kumar tell his Bros it is not fair for the Vellalas to have total control of the North and the East, when the Indian Tamil brethren couldn’t get even 1000 Ruppia a day until Nandasena got in..
And ask them to join Thondaman and help Nandasena to make it a Level Playing Field for Vellala , Elite , Anglicans as well as the Dalits among both Tamil and Sinhalese.
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On a side issue what was the so called JVP Mr clean Handun talking to Justice Fixing ex UNP Minister Ranjan on his Gonja APP. ?…
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Native Vedda / January 16, 2020
KASmaalam K.A. Sumanasekera
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Well done.
While you been watching Sampanthan’s bum an American living in this island has been elected to the top office of this island, sanitised as a single handed hero, forgotten all his part in war crimes, blessed by Aryan Hitler loving Assgiria, …. secretly selling this land and pride of its people to America, China, Pakistan, Hindia, ….and inviting every Tom, Dick and Harry to grope your women folks.
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Has the president appointed Gota as the national building inspector for he has been visiting buildings, today the Katunayake Airport?
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K.A. Sumanasekera / January 17, 2020
Dear Native,-
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Why do you use rude words when talking about Mr Sampathar?..
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Poor fella spent his whole life warming the seat on the Opposition Bench, dreaming and talking about that beautiful Homeland in. the North East , which Mr Chelvanayakam promised to his Vellala People .
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I don’t know how many years he has been sitting there, but it must be a long time because Mr Pirahaparan has come and gone . And his mate Dr Rani’s Yahpalanaya also has come and gone.
And in combination that is a whopping 35 years , according to my Elders.
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Now it is getting more and more difficult for Mr Sampathar to see his dream come true.
For example no way Mr Sampathar can have the East now, to be run by the TNA after all Muslims, irrespective of their Political alliances joined together last Easter.
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Is a self ruling Tamil Homeland exclusively to be run by the Vellala Politicians even in the North practical .,feasible or fair , when more Vellala Tamil people live outside than in the ear marked Homeland?..
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Then there is Mr Thondaman who I heard recently bragging that he is the King Maker in Lankawe., although he is not even a true Lankan according to the Definition the ex CM of the North Mr Vigneswaran gave us last month.. .
But Mr Thondaman has over one million of his clan.who have no Lands of their own.
Not even the average Wage, although the latter is going to change after Prez Nandasena granted them that LKR 1000, which has been long overdue.
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May be Mr Sampathar must have realized it too , for him to get Dr Rani to gift that Retirement House in Cinnamon Gardens to him . before Mr Nandsena came in ..
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Native Vedda / January 18, 2020
KASmaalam K.A. Sumanasekera
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“Is a self ruling Tamil Homeland exclusively to be run by the Vellala Politicians even in the North practical .,feasible or fair , when more Vellala Tamil people live outside than in the ear marked Homeland?..”
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It’s simple, ask your local saffron thugs, Helass, somass, Lal Loos, …. jackass Weerawansas to start a well planned, well organised, well resourced ………… riots against the Tamil speaking people supported by the armed forces,…………….. not only the Vellalas but all the Demelas could be driven back to North East or indeed to their ancestral homeland South India.
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How many riots did you actively participate between 1958 and 2019?
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By the way what was Wimal Windbag Weerawansa doing in Odducuttan old tile factory? He wanted to reopen the old tiles factory within 3 months. Can Basil commence production within 3 months without the ownership is being legitimately transferred to him?
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Ganjapani Gorakapola / January 15, 2020
Dear Dr David,
“today’s JVP is by no means a chauvinist or racist party”.
Dr David, if they not, the JVP should intrude North and East provinces and convince youngsters to register as members and give them leadership responsibility. In the 2019 campaign, the JVP had just one meeting in Jaffna. That’s no good.
” The JVP sees the Sinhala petty-bourgeois and the Sinhala working-class as its target voters and fears alienating this constituency”.
That’s a poor philosophy; the JVP being ‘leftist’ should broad-base its policies to cover the entire population.
“let me say that every Sinhalese party and leader (UNP, SLPP, SLFP and the in-the-GR-MR pocket dead-left LSSP, CP and DLF) is of the same opinion and functions in the same way”
Dear Dr David, it is time the minorities give up on the major political parties. Unfortunately, there is a vacuum and the JVP has an unrecognised fit to fill the gap.
“I don’t think Ranil, Sajith, DEW, Tissa and Vasudeva are racists”.
Ha Ha Dr David, they may not be racists but they are opportunists!
“There was a Sinhala-Buddhist (SB) landslide in the November election and it went to Gota exclusively.”
Dr David, the SB majority went to GR because of the stupidity of Yahapalana.
In conclusion, the JVP should make an honest effort to be national devoid of racial, secular politics. They need to grow to reach that position.
PS Dr David: I was your student in the 70’s and also, I am an old Royalist (RW Follower !!).
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nalmen / January 15, 2020
the rural masses have not forgotten their dastardly acts during their 2 revolutions
they will never win an election whatever their stance
lets forget about them and move on
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Naman / January 15, 2020
JVP too may do well by forming/changing the name of their Party.
‘Justice Party’ is a suitable name.
They should campaign on bringing JUSTICE to all big time criminals in all walks of life.
They should educate SBs on how much damage the current lot of Politicians have done to the FUTURE of ALL SRI LANKAN.
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chiv / January 15, 2020
Lankans may not realize but our Sorry state is gradually declining into a gambling chip for high stake international players. Within months after elections administrative higher ups including ministers from China, India, Russia, US, Japan and Other Western countries have made visits and some of them multiple times. Also soon GR/MR will be making numerous visits to these countries , trying to keep them all happy (which is impossible). For international players now the focus is turned on Asian domination, and the easiest target is our Sorry nation. Russia says it will provide arms, China says not to allow others except them, India does not want added Chinese pressure from different directions, Pakistan is happy in picking the scrubs, US has usual is always looking for slight opening to get in . We all know , there is nothing in Lanka to exploit other than “taking up spaces for bases”(satellite). When the “price is right” the chips will change hands.
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Eagle Eye / January 15, 2020
When they draft the new Constitution, Sinhalayo should request to have National Anthem in Sinhala and the language of Vedda Eththo who lived with Sinhalayo from time immemorial and fought with Sinhalayo against ‘Para Suddas’. Demalu and Muslims were with ‘Para Suddas’ during British rule and helped Brits to kill Sinhalayo. So why National Anthem sung in Demala which is a language brought to Sinhale by slaves brought to this country by colonial parasites?
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soma / January 15, 2020
What is ‘national question’?
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Soma
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Eagle Eye / January 15, 2020
Soma,
That is the ‘million-dollar question’.
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Native Vedda / January 16, 2020
somass
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“What is ‘national question’?”
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How to liberate Buddhists from Sinhala/Buddhism while liberating Sinhalese from Sinhala/Buddhists, which also mean democratisation of the state, state institutions, polity, ……economy, nation building, ….. above all liberating the entire country from Sinhala/Buddhist fascism.
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This must be the umpteenth time you have raised this same question. If you are unable to grasp the idea of democracy, you must wait for another few more years until you are reasonably matured.
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soma / January 17, 2020
Or the acknowledgement by +50% of Tamils (all Tamil speaking people irrespective of their religion, caste or the date of arrival) that Sinhala Buddhist society is preferable to their own?
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Soma
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Native Vedda / January 18, 2020
somass
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If you are seriously worried about them, with your past experience you should be able to start yet another riots against them and drive them back to North East or preferably their ancestral homeland in South India.
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Instead you are wasting your time, energy, rage, experience, ….. in these forums, think about prospective wealth redistribution from Tamils to a handful of greedy Sinhala/Buddhist (fascists).
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Jay Chambers / January 15, 2020
The Sinhalese of Lanka are not racist. Nor are the Lankan Tamils. The only racists are those Dravidian Tamil speaking Moslems who consider all non Moslem Kaffirs should be either converted, totally outnumbered by an explosive growth of Moslems, or murdered in the most barbaric fashion (Easter Sunday style).
However, the Lankan politicians are quick to use racism to advance their parties. This is what David the writer is referring to. But current President Gotaby is not a racist, but a technocrat and a man driven by a desire to fix things. He fixed the terrible LTTE terror that engulfed Lanka, and he was well positioned to lead the country after Moslem Jihadi terrorists finally made their debut in blood and gore on Easter Sunday. The Sinhalese rallied around him, not because they are racist, but because they finally saw the danger of Islam. I have begged the Kaffir Lankans on CT to tackle head on the Moslem devil masquerading as businessmen or just another citizen who wants to live life their way, but they did not hear. In fact I was attacked by some for being so called racist!! But after Easter Sunday they knew better. And so did the vast majority of over 80% of the Sinhalese people. As for the 20% who did not, you can count them out of any worthwhile contribution to Lanka, except as a Fifth Column.
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D. P / January 15, 2020
KD,
Why did it take a little over a half a century to come to this conclusion – still somewhat vague, I must add? In the world of business or sports, no consultant can ever survive this long by offering this kind of wrong advises! The gradual “devolution” of the JVP probably shows how the opposite is true in politics: The adviser survives while the receiver perils!
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Can the JVP abandon Marxism and turn into liberal politics including for minority rights? Sure it can but the adjustment will cause so much pain. In practice, however, JVP doesn’t behave like a true Marxist party. Instead it behaves more like a strong nationalist party with a “little affection” for minority rights. On the stage, this nationalism doesn’t sound very different from that of SLFP or of SLPP even though in practice, it is very obvious that, for the latter two parties, nationalism is only a deceptive addendum to the equally deceptive racism. But, Marxism, by definition, is a global movement. Marx ended his very first (published) document “The Communist Manifesto” (1848) with a plea for the workers of the world to unite. Therefore, nationalism should sound as an alien concept to the JVP. However, it may sound attractive if mixed the “anti-imperialism” jargon! Now, with your renewed advise to add minority rights as well, JVP certainly will have a handful of “misfit” parts (concepts) to make it look like a viable organism!
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What do you mean by devolution power? This is an important question for minorities, particularly to Tamils b’cos for some it means more power to 13 A while for some, it is the full enforcement of HR under equally strong democratic rule. In other words, if the JVP accept your advise with glaring ambiguity, JVP will be in troubles with minorities as well. What you are telling the JVP is very much like asking to act like “Moosila” (Guttila Kavya) who fiddled in vain all the tunes he knew to win the attention the traders.
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Eagle Eye / January 15, 2020
According to the ‘Betelvine’, AKD has sat with Ranil and Ajith at Temple Trees and decided who should be arrested.
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AKD has given a character certificate to Shani Abesekera.
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Eagle Eye / January 15, 2020
“The JVP must denounce narrow-mindedness and campaign for devolution and the rights of national minorities.”
How can JVP campaign for devolution when Daliths who are being oppressed and discriminated by Malabar Wellala Demalu do not want Land and Police powers given to NPC. They told this to the Sub-Committee on Power Sharing of the Constitution Drafting Committee.
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Regarding rights of minorities that you talk, can Kumar David tell Sinhalayo:
• What is it that the Sinhalayo are enjoying that the other communities are not enjoying because they are not Sinhala?
• What is it that the minorities do not enjoy because they are the minority which the majority enjoys because they are the majority?
• What is legally, constitutionally and legislatively given to the majority that is not given to the minorities”?
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Lester / January 16, 2020
A political party wins an election by pandering to populist sentiment. Muslims have not asked for devolution, meanwhile Tamils are only 10% or so of the population. Mathematically, it makes no sense for a politician to pitch devolution if 90% of the population are against it. What would Tamils do with devolution? Tamils don’t even have a proper leadership; the democratic leadership was assassinated by LTTE. Any leadership would be extremely corrupt, leading to various economic problems. At the end, you would have a Zimbabwe-like situation. The claims of SB “chauvism” are laughable. Every year, millions of tourists vist Sri Lanka. I have never come across a single one who mentioned “chauvinism.”
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / January 16, 2020
Lester the mean nasty racist living the good life in London and enjoying the good life and equal opportunities offered to immigrants like him but preaching genocide and racism back home . Hypocrite. Listen racist bugger. Tamils are 16% of the country’s population not 10% . They were around 28% at the time of independence , but now reduced to 16% due to calculated ethnic cleansing and genocidal activities of all Sinhalese led governments since independence. The Tamil population reduced from 28% to 16% , whilst the Sinhalese population rose from around 65% to 75% and the Muslims from around 7% to 9.8%. It does not matter if the Tamils 1% . 10% , 16% or 25% . They are indigenous native population and the north and east is their land meaningful devolution is required for their areas , with land and police powers , so that in future Sinhalese racist devils like you, mad Buddhist monks , politicians and armed forces will not steal what remains of their land. In UK , where you now reside the Scots are around 5% of the British population and the Welsh around 1% but still very meaningful devolution is granted for their lands . India is your neighbour and devolution and federal states have been granted to populations whose percentage is only 3% or less of India’s population , even the Tamils in India are around 6% of India’s population but enjoy so much power. You Sinhalese racists love to quote India with regards to singing of the national anthem in one language but are silent when it comes to devolution and federalism that India practises.
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Lester / January 16, 2020
Sankaran Sarma aka Rohan aka Rohan Johnpillai,
Keep writing the fake history on TamilNet, no one is reading it (not even you). Your homeland is Tamil Nadu/Australian Outback where your aboriginal cousins live. As far as Sri Lanka is concerned, Tamils will be 5% of the population within 20-25 years. There is no chance for Tamils now to gain devolution, as the Sinhala Buddhists will elect hardliners for the next 30 years. My advice to you is find a sturdy boat to exit and practice the coolie skills the Brits taught you so well in a Western country.
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / January 16, 2020
Sorry I am neither Rohan nor Johnpillai. Go and get lost you racist bugger . You should be deported back to your racist paradise , instead of enjoying your good life in the UK. Bloody racist hypocrite. Aboriginal cousins ! Why what is wrong in being an Aboriginal racist low life? You Sinhalese are not Aryans but largely descended from Indian Tamil low castes and untouchables. Most probably you are something dark short and ugly with delusions of being some Aryan. Mad man
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Lester / January 16, 2020
Johnpillai, you have a good imagination, but there are very few Tamil words in Sinhala. There are more Portugese words than Tamil words in Sinhala. If we follow your logic, then Sinhalese are descended from Portugese. There are thousands of Latin words in English, again if we follow your logic, British and Americans are all related to Julius Caesar. Johnpillai, as I said, there are strong links between Aboriginees and Tamils. See the Aboriginal words below, compiled by Prof.Ku.Arasendran. There are many more words I can give you if you like.
Appa (அப்பா ) – Pappa = Father
✔Arattham (அரத்தம் ) – arkuga = blood
✔Ukir (உகிர்) – yulu = nail.
✔El (எல்) சூரியன் – Walu = time,day, sun.
✔Kattai (கட்டை) – Katta = heavy stick .
✔Kalwaai (கால்வாய்) – galwaya = canoe
✔Karruppu (கருப்பு) – Kob = black colour.
✔Kanai (கணை) அம்பு – ganay = sharp stick.
✔Karru (காற்று ) – Yartu = Wind/gale .
✔ Kaalaan (காளான்) – ngalangala = mushroom.
✔Kurudhi (குருதி) – Kurrk = red coloured blood.
✔Naayiru (ஞாயிறு) – nyaui = sun.
✔Thodai (தொடை) – tharra / tyat = thigh
We know Sinhala borrowed a few Tamil words due to geographical proximity. But what the hell are Aboriginees in Australia doing using Tamil in their languages? There was no trade between Dravidians and Aboriginees during recorded history. The best explanation is that Aboriginees crossed over to South India during the Ice Age, when there was a land bridge. I don’t know why people say Tamils and Sinhalese look alike. Maybe to Westerners. I can always tell them apart. I will not comment on your caste obsession. But that is another coolie complex; caste is an Aryan concept used to separate the ruling from the ruled. Why Dravidians hold on to it baffles the mind.
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Native Vedda / January 17, 2020
Lester the Jester
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When did you qualify as a linguist?
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I take it that you have mastered Sinhala/Tamil/Sanskrit/Pali/Portuguese …. more than enough to make a conclusive end to the controversies in language debates.
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I do hope you have spent your lifetime learning about the above languages including the discussions published in the following papers:
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LANGUAGE CONTACT AND LINGUISTIC AREA:
SINHALA _ TAMIL CONTACT SITUATION’
“Every word has its own history and its own area”
(Quoted Masica 2003: 139)
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Sandagomi CoPerahewa
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Mixed Sinhala Language of Mediaeval Period
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Prof. Nimal Mallawa Arachchi
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The Impact of Tamil Language to Sinhala Inscriptions in Ancient Sri Lanka
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K. Chandawimala
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The Dravidian Element in Sinhalese
C. E. Godakumbura
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Sinhalese, the language brought up and nursed by the Tamil
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LANKAMITHRA
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Pandi Kutti / January 17, 2020
Lester the Joker. Lots of Thamizh origin words are found in Malay, in many European languages and so are many other words. There are many similar words between Thamizh and Korean , the Thamizh words for mother, father, yes and no are very similar with Hebrew and Arabic , What is your problem . Racist Idiot. Chingkallam has not borrowed a few words but 35-40% of Chingkalla vocabulary even after the recent move to deliberately Sanskritize is derived from Thamizh. Its grammar syntax lexicon and alphabet is purely derived from Thamizh. Basically Chingkallam evolved from Thamizh, just like Malayalam, Kannada and Telugu. Everything about the Chingkallams reflect the Thamizh people and Dravidian South Indians. Many Sinhalese historians and anthropologists have admitted to this fact. Only mad Chingkalla racist extremists like you keep on denying this obvious fact. All DNA studies and historical records prove that the Chingkallams are largely descended from Indian Thamizh invaders and immigrants and half of them from recently migrated largely low caste Indian Thamizh slave labour , who were brought into the island by the Portuguese and Dutch . You can keep on denying it but this is a fact. There is no such thing as one Aboriginal language but many and it is a fact that there are many words in these languages that are similar to Thamizh, so what about it? It is a fact when the Australian Aborigines migrated from Africa , they took a land or sea route to South India and stayed there and them moved on. There are still many ancient tribes in Thamizh Nadu , Kerala and other parts of India who have these Australian Aboriginal gene markers so what is the big deal , even the so called Veddah and many Chingkallams will have this. Every human not from sub Saharan Africa , are all evolve/descended from one lot of out immigrants who came out of Africa.
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Pandi Kutti / January 17, 2020
Lastly Siva Sankaran is not Rohan Johnpillai as I knew of a JohnPillai family in Colombo and one of their sons or their son was named Rohan. The mother was famous in the Tamil arts scene. Most probably this person is him.
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / January 17, 2020
Stupid third rate you are a waste of time. Every one know that the Australian Aborigines migration route to Australia was through South India so what big deal. It also a recorded fact ancient Indians migrated to Australia and many Australian aborigines have their DNA. You forgot to mention that in some northern aboriginal languages in Australia the word for snake is Kadi which means bite in Tamil. In Melbourne where I live now , there is a suburb called Bundoora which is an Aboriginal name. There is Keel Bundoora ( lower Bundoora ) and Mel Bundoora ( upper Bundoora) Keel means bottom or lower in Tamil and Mel means upper in Tamil . Idiotic you has only proved how ancient Tamil is. There are lots of Aboriginal place names in Australia that sound very similar to Sinhalese place names , which means Sinhalese are also descended from Aborigines. I say definite. Most Sinhalese especially the Southern variety look definitely Australoid.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-01-15/research-shows-ancient-indian-migration-to-australia/4466382
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mintamil/k1GofGgPfXY
https://www.abroadintheyard.com/indians-australian-aborigines-interbred-4200-years-ago-sharing-dna-and-dingoes/
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / January 17, 2020
You are a nasty brainwashed Sinhalese racist , evil to the core . So what ? What you have stated only proves how ancient the Tamil language is and how much its influence has spread , even to the Aborigines of Australia. Everyone know that the Australian Aborigines migrated to modern Australia through South India and many ancient tribes along the seaboard of Tamil Nadu and Kerala show this Aboriginal DNA markers. It is also proved 4300 years ago Indians did migrate to Australia and mixed with the Aborigines there. Obvious their language would have influenced aboriginal languages. You forgot to mention , that in some northern Australian Aboriginal dialects a snake is called Kaadi, which means bite in Tamil. In Melbourne where I now live , there is a suburb called Budoora . This is an Aboriginal name and there is Keel Bundoora which means lower Bundoora, and Mel Bundoora meaning upper Bundoora, Keel means lower in Tamil and Mel means upper in Tamil. Lot of Aboriginal place names in Australia sound very Sinhalese . this means Sinhalese have lots of Aboriginal blood. Well most southern Sinhalese do look very Aboriginal, may be you are one. Go and get a life racist piece of shyte,
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-01-15/research-shows-ancient-indian-migration-to-australia/4466382
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4912101/
Lastly racist I am no Christian and will never be but a Hindu Brahmin. Understood and will never use a Christian identity or any other identity
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Nimal / January 17, 2020
Lester the evil racist Jester from London , what a load of Rubbish . I cannot decide who is more evil and stupid , you or Eagle Blind , both part of the Sinhalese diaspora that have opportunistically fled the west to live the good life but still supporting evil and racism and a war criminal dictator back home. Even English has many words from Tamil, Aboriginal languages and many other languages . What is the big deal? As for Sinhalese it is not a little that is borrowed from Tamil but almost half its vocabulary and everything else from Tamil. Sinhalese have a little bit of Tamil ancestry , you really are a Jester . Most of Sinhalese ancestry is Tamil and if Tamils are closely related to Australian Aborigines , which you mean as a racist insult . so are the Sinhalese. We are all humans and all of us are closely related , as we originated from one African Eve. What is wrong in being an Aborigine? The Australian Aboriginals are one of the oldest races and civilisations in the world and if Dravidians/Tamils and Indians are closely related to them , it is a matter of pride and not an insult. It is you who is racist and casteist with delusions that you Sinhalese are Aryans , when you are not and do not like it when some one points out the truth about the real lowly origins of most these so called Aryan Sinhalese. You do not like it and start attacking the messenger of being racist and casteist , when it really you who is one. Shows what a small, mean minded , pathetic , spiteful, ugly racist you really are.
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D. P. / January 17, 2020
Lester,
There is another possibility for the relationship between Tamils & Australian Aborigines: They both belong to an off-shoot of out-of Africa migration. A L Basham who wrote the magnificent book on Indian history, “The Wonder That was India” (1954) postulated that Indus Valley civilization (Moheja-daro, Happa) might be a product of Tamils and they might have escaped to S India after Aryan decimated the the civilization. He also think that the dark-skinned lowest cast among Hindus was made up of captured Indus Valley inhabitants. It is possible that they (Tamils & Aborigines) belong to an earliest group from homosapien diverged after leaving Africa.
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Nimal / January 17, 2020
Utter rubbish and nonsense. It is Sinhalese, Malayalis , and other people who diverged from the Tamils and suffering from some sort of inferiority complex come up with all these or latch on to these stupid theories , from certain white supremacists , as they want to feel good by constantly running Tamil people down. The Sinhalese are largely descended from low caste Tamils and other low caste Hindus from India, this is a fact and not a fiction . This means the Sinhalese are also Australoids The original out of African migration was not in waves but a one off migration and all the modern non African population are all descended from this one off migration . The so called Causasoids. Mogoloids, Aboriginal and American Indians . Understood. So stop spreading rubbish Sinhalese racist. You Sinhalese are indeed a very low life despicable people , so full of hatred and venom . Largely descended from Tamils , borrow everything from Tamils , including almost half your vocabulary and the entire Tamil grammar and then want to destroy Tamils , the Tamil language and the Tamil culture.
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Nimal / January 17, 2020
NO, there is no genetically relation between native South Asians and Australian aborigines. But there was a “recent” movement from India to Southeast-Asia and to coastal regions of Australia. It was mostly by Tamil traders. As Tamils reached up to Japan and Korea, they also went down to Australia and Indonesia. Modern Genetic studies show that native South-Asians are not closely related to any group outside of the Indian subcontinent. Scientists say that native South Asians form a unique cluster or “race. Dravidian is a language family. So: a minor amount of Australians can have some relation to South Asians, because of migration. But in terms of origin: No, we are not related to Australian aborigines. The paternal markers of all South Asians 2%-10% in common with central/ western /SE Europe and SE Asia. 10-25% only in North India/Pakistan , the bulk 25-40% only in India.
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Nimal / January 17, 2020
According to a large craniometric study (Raghavan and Bulbeck et al. 2013) the native populations of South Asia and this includes Sri Lanka have distinct craniometric and anthropologic ancestry. Both southern and northern groups are most similar to each other and have generally closer affinities to various “Caucasoid” groups. The study further showed that the native South Asians (including the Vedda) form a distinct group and are not related to the “Australoid” group.
If there were an Australoid “substratum” component to Indians’ ancestry, we would expect some degree of craniometric similarity between Howells’ Southwest Pacific series and Indians. But in fact, the Southwest Pacific and Indian are craniometrically very distinct, falsifying any claim for an Australoid substratum in India. Pathmanathan Raghavan, David Bulbeck, Gayathiri Pathmanathan and Suresh Kanta Rathee, Indian Craniometric Variability and Affinities (2013). I have never commented here , or think only commented here once but am forced to comment all these Sinhalese racists and extremists lies and allegations. They seem to have become more emboldened after the election of this war criminal extremist president. Now they think they can say anything, do anything and even get away with the murder of the island’s Tamil speakers.
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Pandi Kutti / January 17, 2020
There was only one initial out of Africa migration and all modern so called non African population are all descended from this one out of Africa migration. There were no waves of different migrations from Africa. Unless we have recently married into any person of African ancestry , we all carry the same amount of the original out of Africa DNA. Please do not post rubbish .Lots of these people who wrote all these books about India , where white racist Aryan supremacists , who now have all been discredited , including the rubbish they wrote. It is now known that Thamizh is older than Samskrithum and it was not Thamizh that was borrowing from Samaskrithum but the other way around. The so called wonder that is India is not Aryan but Dravidian . The Keeladi excavation in Thamilzh Nadu is similar to the Indus valley civilisation and the Dravidian population in peninsular India has been there from ancient times and were not chased out by the so called Aryan invasion . The Aryans gradually migrated and integrated with the local population . The Dravidians were already leaving and moving from North West India due to climate changes. Aborigines carry overwhelmingly Haplogroup C and K . They also carry a small amount of Haplogroup R which is also found in India. So are they related to Thamizh ? No. There was small amount Indian(mostly Thamizh ) migration or trade to the northern shores of Australia in ancient times and some DNA and words would have been exchanged, also the Aborigines took the South Indian route when they moved to Australia , resulting in some ancient tribals in Thamizh Nadu and Kerala showing DNA markers in common with Australian Aborigines. This is negligible and the answer is still no . There are more white Australians now having Aboriginal blood and many of the modern Australian Aborigines have lots of European blood and now lots of European words in their dialects or languages. Far more than Thamizh words.
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Pandi Kutti / January 18, 2020
Most Australian Aborigines now look very European and not black or dark at all. Only a small minority in the central, far north and west have maintained their traditional way of life and to some extent their purity. The rest have more European ancestry than Abortiginal ancestry. Aboriginal languages are now written in the Latin script . As per your mad theory the Europeans and Australian Aborigines are closely related and one and the same people .
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SJ / January 18, 2020
“It is now known that Thamizh is older than Samskrithum”
Known by whom?
Read some serious history.
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Pandi Kutti / January 19, 2020
You better read serious history . Nit picking anti Thamizh.
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/pm-modi-says-tamil-is-a-beautiful-language-regrets-knowing-only-vanakkam-1170936-2018-02-16
Even the Samaskiritham mad Indian Prime Minister admits to this fact but you cannot Thamizh hating Thullukan
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Lester / January 17, 2020
D.P. , I refer you to genetic studies that also establish a connection between Dravidians and Aboriginees. For example, refer to the paper “Gene Flow from the Indian Subcontinent to Australia: Evidence from the Y Chromosome.” According to this paper, “Phylogenetic analyses of STR variation associated with a major Australian SNP lineage indicated tight clustering with southern Indian/Sri Lankan Y chromosomes. Estimates of the divergence time for these Indian and Australian chromosomes overlap with important changes in the archaeological and linguistic records in Australia. These results provide strong evidence for an influx of Y chromosomes from the Indian subcontinent to Australia that may have occurred during the Holocene.” The Holocene is a time scale used to measure the age of the Earth; it refers to the period right after the Ice Age. The paper talks about genetic similarities between South Indian groups and Aboriginal populations, and how these similarities match with certain events, such as the introduction of the dingo (a wild dog in Australia). So for example, Dravidians may have migrated to Australia to hunt the dingo. There is no doubt in my mind that Tamils and Aborigines are related. Short stature (height), round hips on women, curly hair, dark skin, etc. these are all Australoid traits. Any variations are the result of intermarriage from the Aryan gene pool; e.g. the light-skinned “Brahmins.” But even these Brahmins display some Australoid traits such as a rounder face. Of course there are Sinhalese who display some of these Australoid traits as well, but the proportion is significantly less compared to Tamils. In my estimation, they were acquired more from contact with Veddas than Tamils.
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / January 18, 2020
One Sinhalese racist supporting and posting the other. Listen you Sinhalese extremist Sinhalese racist garbage from London . We all know that your mind is full of garbage and hate towards Tamils. Most probably you are suffering from the mad cow disease , that hit the UK. Some Sinhalese look like Aborigines , don’t make laugh , most Sinhalese do, especially the ones from the deep south. May I know what these genetic studies are. Most probably they are the genetic studies based on your family. You and the rest of the Sinhalese can keep on denying but most of you are descended from South Indian( Tamil) immigrants and with some admixture from NE India.
Tamils are basically Indo-Melanids which means they are Dark skinned Caucasoid and not very closely related to Sub Saharan Africans or even to Australian Aborigines. Australian Aborigines are themselves not closely related to Africans genetically, but they are genetically closer to East Asians or Mongoloids. Tamils mostly have Karnatid or Indo-Melanid phenotype. According to Early Anthropologists, Indo-Melanids are basically Caucasoid, not Australoid or Sub Saharan Africans. However all humans originated from Africa and the what ever you state the Tamils produced a very ancient sophisticated civilisation and language , that is now the oldest spoken classical language in the world . The Tamil language gave birth to many languages, including Sinhalese and influenced many other languages in India and in SE Asia and it is the ancient Tamils who spread Indian culture and Hinduism/Buddhism to the world. Their influence is now seen in world heritage monuments like Borobudur and Angkor Wat. Even most of the ancient ruins in Sri Lanka , especially in Polonarruwa were built by Tamil origin kings, that the Sinhalese are deliberately misleading and touting to the world as ancient Sinhalese artifacts. This is why you Sinhalese racists want to destroy the Tamils and their presence in the island.
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Lester / January 18, 2020
Johnpillai, I already told you that there are less than 100 Tamil words in Sinhala. The complete list is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sinhala_words_of_Tamil_origin. Sinhala-Buddhist civilization is 2500 years old, yet Tamil could not contribute 100 words. Johnpillai, the fact of the matter is no Sinhala person can understand Tamil without prior study. The tonality, grammar, syntax, and vocabulary have no resemblance to Sinhala language. That is because the BASE of Sinhala is Sanskrit, not Tamil. That is why North Indians are able to understand the Sinhala national anthem and why Sinhala people can pick up words in Hindi films without difficulty. Johnpillai, the Sinhala kings expended great amounts of energy to keep the Tamil invaders away. That is why people still venerate monks, as the monks were the ones advising kings since ancient days. You will not fool anyone with your fake history.
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Johnpillai / January 18, 2020
Jasckass then I hope you understand this Hindi word. Gaandu, as this is what you are . Bugger.
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Jester / January 18, 2020
Karutha kulla Chingkalla kurangu from London shut your gap idiot and stop posting nonsense. You are brainwashed lunatic. Go and take your pills
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Native Vedda / January 18, 2020
Lester/Jester
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“I already told you that there are less than 100 Tamil words in Sinhala. The complete list is here:”
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Could you cite your credible source.
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Raj / January 19, 2020
Mad racist lunatic
http://www.worldgenweb.org/lkawgw/sinhalarace.htm
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Lester / January 19, 2020
Fake Veddah,
Are you denying there are more Tamil words than Portugese words in Sinhala? What is your credible source, sangam.org?
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / January 19, 2020
Read this bigot
https://sldna.blogspot.com/2019/02/common-ancestry-of-sinhalese-and-sri.html
This is the latest DNA analysis of the Sinhalese and Sri Lankan Tamils. The Sri Lankan Tamils closest relatives are the Kandyan Sinhalese . Now go and take a hike, especially from the ancient Purana villages.
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Native Vedda / January 19, 2020
Lester/Jester
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“I already told you that there are less than 100 Tamil words in Sinhala. The complete list is here:”
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Could you cite your credible source.
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Lester / January 19, 2020
Johnpillai, the fact is, Tamils never accomplished anything significant, other than the tiny minority of Tamil Brahmins, who are anyway partially descended from Aryans. There are no Brahmins in Sri Lanka, the so-called Vellalars are coolie imports brought over to cultivate tobacco. According to the Wikipedia, “Despite being a relatively lowly group, they were dominant communities in Tamil agrarian societies for 600 years….” That is a nice way of saying they were licking Brahmin bum in India. Some of these low-caste Vellalars were given cushy jobs by the British, in exchange for learning English and converting to Christianity. Anyway, the Sinhalese are descended from Aryans (linguistically, racially, etc.). Malabar coolie imports (Vellalars) from India cannot make a similar claim.
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JohnPillai / January 20, 2020
Gaandu return to the asylum , they should not have let you out. Bugger.
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kali / January 16, 2020
Lester what rubbish are you talking about. I dont want to waste time with your rubbish but if you insist I will take you through a history lesson. Grow up man and sharpen your ” mandai” if you have one.
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / January 17, 2020
He is one of these nasty mean low life Sinhalese racists diaspora , Living the good life in the UK and supporting war criminals , racists , dictators and genocide back home in the name of Sinhalese Buddhist Fascism. Most likely comes from one of these Sinhalese castes or communities that have a recent largely low caste South Indian immigrant origin , now trying to hide this and beat the anti Tamil , Sinhalese Aryan drum. These people suffer from a complex.
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Lester / January 20, 2020
Fake Sharma, there are is no Tamil name such as Sharma. I had a Sharma as a professor once, he was a Brahmin from Kerala. Post here with your real id. Or you are embarrassed because under caste system, all pure Dravidians such as yourself are considered sudras (slaves or untouchables). The lowest of the low castes. Is that why you pretend to be a Brahmin? Why would an Indian Brahmin care about low-caste Vellalar Tamils in Sri Lanka? FYI: Sinhalese were never slaves, unlike Dravidians. We had our own civilization, which you Cholas failed to destroy.
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / January 21, 2020
Idiotic man Sharma or Sarma is name found amongst Tamil Brahmins and also amongst Telugu and North Indian Brahmins , especially Punjabi Brahmins. If your Sharma professor was from Kerala , he definitely will be an ethnic Tamil Brahmin from the Pallakadu region in Kerala, an area bordering Tamil Nadu , full of Tamil Brahmins. Sharma or Sarma is a common family name amongst Brahmins from Jaffna
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Lester / January 21, 2020
Fake Sharma, the Tamil name is Sarma, not Sharma. There is no “Sharma” in Tamil Nadu. All of the famous Sharma’s are North Indian or Nepali: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharma. As the root of “Sharma” is Sanskrit.There are no Brahmins in Sri Lanka, , every single Tamil in Sri Lanka is a low-caste untouchable by Indian standards. Sinhalese don’t have caste in the traditional sense of a varna system. Half of them are Govigama anyway. So you see, we have no association with either you or your Aboriginal cousins.
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Alfonso of Welikada / January 16, 2020
You are beating a dead horse hm…. professor.
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The best comment on the JVP is eing made by the fruit dealers at Pettah.
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They have replaced price tags of ‘three for Rs.100′ with signs JVP (Seeyata thunai’)!
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You are still trying to revive this gang of hypocrites, probably as the best tool to divide the Sinhalese.
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You are dreaming hm… professor.
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soma / January 16, 2020
Why waste time on these hair splitting analyses and interpretations? In all democracies far left parties poll less than 5% and the word ‘communist’ has completely disappeared.
JVP fell down further from their previous score because voters could not understand how a far left party can align with the top most capitalist party against a cetrist party and how any patriot can view Rajapaksa as a greater evil than Wickramasinghe.
These ungrateful ******** have totally forgotten 1989.
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Native Vedda / January 19, 2020
somass
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Where did you get the idea JVP was/is a far left party?
It is and was another Sinhala/Buddhist far right party, which should nicely fit your worldly outlook.
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GrassRoot / January 16, 2020
David, Yiu are running out something! please double check. This is not the question of sinhala voters man! JVP is no more trustworthy party, as they changed their original face for dollars! Now there is hardly for a left movement, instead a gand of 5 6 culprits flying ref flag under Tamil Diaspora Dollars. Lets say sinhala or majority righit thinking people cannot pool any more obviously 3% (brain washed) WE strongly hope 3% will go down further at next election, as those sick guys gradually becoming alright!
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Siri Gamage / January 17, 2020
JVP’s overall problem cannot be reduced to ‘Taking a fair/principled/progressive (choose what adjective you like) stance on the national question. Kumar is focusing on this aspect and argues if the JVP took a progressive stance the jVP would have not lost a single vote. I doubt this?
JVP has a far more serious ideological, structural, organisational and communication problem. As shown in the recent election, what is good in theory or policy does not translate into votes, particularly in the Sinhala majority electorates. This reflects a far more deeper problem in political messaging, and connecting even with the very strata of society that it seeks to represent, i.e. petty bourgeoisie and working class. Even members of these layers seem to have abandoned the JVP. Q. Is this because the JVP did not adopt a progressive attitude to national question OR other reasons?
True that the JVP is different from other mainstream parties and their affiliates. They seem to adopt principled positions on various issues. They also seem to avoid populism and chauanism. But these stances have not paid in elections. Those concerned about the future of JVP ought to have a cold shower and look deeper into the problems it faces by employing social scientific research rather than continuing to proclaim that their platform is the right one.
My view is that the JVP is now a city based party rather than a grassroots one(I may be wrong here and if so please point out). It has to build its political platform from the bottom-up.It needs to get its hands dirty with grassroots politics at the local level. If they think that the JVP can win elections merely by speaking in press conferences, it is wrong. IN each district and Pradesheeya Sabha division,there are local issues. JVP needs to understand these, their causes and solutions. Be an activist party at local levels. Build up a constituency that way. This requires a door-to-door strategy.
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Hela / January 17, 2020
Can KD advise how Tamils could prop up JVP (rather than continue on SB bashing)?
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Native Vedda / January 17, 2020
Helass
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“Can KD advise how Tamils could prop up JVP (rather than continue on SB bashing)?”
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JVP was founded on Sinhala/Buddhist fascist ideology, and has been based on Sinhala/Buddhist fascist ideology, even the young members have been indoctrinated with the same poisonous ideas, …. JVP cannot and will not modernise liberalise because of its past lies and its old guards.
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Anura maybe working hard to change all those old habits but it’s difficult.
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An English teaching Sinhala professor was concerned about large numbers of non Govies infiltrating into the state structure and occupying top jobs. JVP is seen as purely a non-Govi party.
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Unless and otherwise people’s perception of JVP changes and JVP addresses its own racist ideas about “OTHERS” there is little chance of it capturing enough seats to make any impact in the parliament and outside.
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Therefore comeback in about 50 years.
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What is SB?
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Siri Gamage / January 17, 2020
JVP’s problems are far deeper than its stance on the national question. If it depends on the petty bourgeoisie and working class, even their members don’t seem to have voted en mass in the last election. So we should not try to reduce its problems merely to its stand on the national question. It failed to obtain votes from the Sinhala Buddhist majority. Why? One could say that it adopted a principled policy position rather than a populist one. My view is that there is a problem with JVP’s political strategy.It has become a city based party with a focus on parliamentary procedures rather than struggles of the people from different strata. If it is to win popular support, it has to change to become a grassroots party that involves in active issues on the ground. Elections cannot be won by press conferences and speed cues in mass meetings and seminars alone. Message is one thing. Communication of it door to door is another.
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Andare 2.0 / January 17, 2020
What is this so called national question ? Could Mr Kumar formulate it in a way we can understand ? Were Tamils the majority community in the North and East before 17th century ? How many historic Tamil inscriptions found in Sri Lanka ? How many Tamil inscriptions found in the So called Tamil homeland(north and east). How many Tamil literary works composed in Sri Lanka ? Why there are no Brahmins among Sri lankan Tamils even though there are Tamil Brahmins in India ? Vellalas are not Brahmins so what is their origin ? Are they descending from the dutch agricultural workers ? Is it racist ask these questions ? Could Mr Kumar answer these questions ?
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / January 17, 2020
There is enough and more history with regards to the antiquity of the Tamils in the island and their ancient homeland in the north and east of the island. Even your Mahavamsa comic book constantly refers to the North and East of the island as Tamil lands. The Tamil Jaffna kingdom is a fact and this consisted of entire northern province and the northern half of eastern province and the north west coast up to Chilaw or Negombo. ( this is the reason these areas were Tamil until the turn of the 20th Century) . The Portuguese , the Dutch , the British and many other travellers have constantly referred the north and east as Tamil lands and the rest of the island Sinhalese. Population statistics kept the British prove this . Tamils were the overall majority in the entire north and east until the Sinhalese started to colonise large tracts of the north east on ethnically cleansed Tamil lands. Yes Vellalars are not Brahmins but the land owning upper caste/Aristocracy and from ancient times most of the Tamil kings rulers, ministers, aristocracy ., generals , and upper echelons of the government ,village headmen are all from this caste. Not only here but in India too. They are equal to the Kshatriya caste up north. Just like the Govigamma amongst the Sinhalese. So are the Govigamma also low caste agricultural workers We all know that half the present Sinhalese population are descended from Indian Tamil immigrant low castes who were imported into the island by the Portuguese and Dutch . May be you are one of them , this is why so obsessed by caste. There are Brahmins amongst Sri Lankan Tamils. Proper Brahmins not the Vellalar Saiva Pillai Kurukal but only around 1-2% of the population . Get your facts correct.
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Native Vedda / January 19, 2020
Andare Aged 2.0
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“Were Tamils the majority community in the North and East before 17th century ?”
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Was there a Sinhala/Buddhist population existed in this island before 19th century?
Can anyone survive without a brain?
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Piyadasa Yalagala / January 17, 2020
JVP was born out that by critic of Communist Party of Ceylon led by Nagaligam Shanmugadasan General Sectary of Peaking wing.
While PDN Wjiweera was member of CPC (Moscow-wing)during his studies at USSR . Eventually that after his entry visa was refuse by Soviet Union Embassy in Colombo by recommendation of CPC (Moscow Wing). In fact PDN Wijeweera was scholarship award by USSR may be 1962?
The Wijeweera was so poor at Marxist of that theoretical and ideologically.
Even Not that sound at a very inceptions of politics of principles differences between Marxism-Leninism and Anarchism . Needless to say that Wijeweera concept of political of that “Lankan line” was an anarchism.
When that time in 1960 tees where their that historical mistake arise in at during that period of 1962 to 1966 the Reformist of political was replace by JVP was not that Marxism ,but it was anarchism of political Terrorism by PND Wijeweera and his follows .The man turn into “Rohana” was name of Politicized by symbol of new shape Chauvinism.
It was leads to 1971 April 5th insurrection of Rebellions by JVP youth cadres .
Later it has been an extended to during period of 1988/89/90 another Rebellion form of struggle by “Rohan” allies “Attnayake” as the leader of insurrectionist by JVP and its affiliated outlets
JVP and his line of politics that most of the time which was influence by vacillation between Marxism-Leninism and Modern Revision of Leninism. .
But so that JVP roots goes back to political anarchism by form of struggle was Terrorism by extremism.
The subsequently struggle of JVP was an isolated from masses of People of that majority oppressed were denied JVP form of struggle for FEW ,that was Not interest represented of largest majority classes an Island?
An Even stage of struggle of JVP which that lack of minim programmed of democratic Revolution was denied by Working class leadership >
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Siri Gamage / January 19, 2020
JVP= People’s Liberation Party
Liberation from whom? e.g. Oppressors
Q. who are the oppressors and oppressed?
Does JVP represent the oppressed?
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SJ / January 18, 2020
“…today’s JVP is by no means a chauvinist or racist party.”
You cannot be serious!
The JVP joined hands with the JHU on two occasions under CBK: to demerge the N&E and to get an interim court order against the p-TOMS (agreed by CBK after the tsunami to ensure relief to LTTE controlled areas).
Even today it is the most vigorous opponent of devolution of power.
It does not accept the idea of traditional homelands for anybody.
During the war it even praised India and the US for their anti-LTTE positions.
The JVP followed in the footsteps of the great Trotskyist Colvin R de Silva who took flowers to the Maligawa in 1970, and went a step further to present their election manifesto 2001 (?) to the Mahanayakes and did the ritual falling at the feet etc to get their blessings.
That seems a lot of progress since their gunning down Vijaya K. and other leftists.
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Native Vedda / January 19, 2020
SJ
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“The JVP joined hands with the JHU on two occasions under CBK: to demerge the N&E and to get an interim court order against the p-TOMS (agreed by CBK after the tsunami to ensure relief to LTTE controlled areas).”
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Come on, the judgement was delivered on 16 October 2006.
Chandrika occupied the office between 12 November 1994 and 19 November 2005.
Mahinda was the president between 19 November 2005 and 8 January 2015.
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Please stop saving Mahinda’s back (bum).
Champika and Somawansa were the most enthusiastic overtly racist supporters of Mahinda and his demerger of North East.
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