18 October, 2017

The Perceptions Of The Sinhalese Should Also Be Understood

By C.V. Wigneswaran

Justice C.V. Wigneswaran

The perceptions of the Sinhalese too should be understood.

Many Sinhalese identify the Tamils of North and East with the recent Tamil immigrants from South India during British times during the past 200 years or so. They forget that the Tamils of the North and East occupied our Island even before the birth of Buddha. There had been waves of immigrants from India who added to the indigenous Tamil populations.

The Sinhalese are allergic to the term federalism since the politicians of both communities have created the belief that federalism is separation or federalism leads to separation. Both ideas are incorrect. Federalism joins together disparate entities of people. This perception of the Sinhalese that Federalism is separation and/ or leads to separation has stood in the way of reconciliation.

The Sinhalese have another wrong perception that Sri Lanka is the land of the Sinhalese. Long before the Sinhalese language was born out of Pali, Tamil and indigenous dialects, the Tamil Dravidians have been occupying this land for centuries. Lots of our Tamil leaders would shudder to say these truths for fear they would hurt the feelings of the Sinhalese. By not informing the truth we are consolidating the wrong perceptions fed into the Sinhalese mind.

Chief Minister Wigneswarn’s address on 6th August at 12.30 pm at the District Secretariat, Jaffna:

Hon’Co – Chairman Mavai Senathirajah, Hon’ Members of Parliament from Great Britain, Members of Westminster Foundation for Democracy, Hon’Members of Parliament, Hon’ Members of the Northern Provincial Council, Mr. Vethanayahan, District Secretary, Jaffna, High officials of the Centre and the Periphery, my dear brothers and sisters,

While welcoming the Hon’Members of Parliament from Britain heartily let me register our appreciation of the Westminster Foundation for Democracy for arranging this important meeting.

We need to share the experiences of others when we are ourselves involved in Reconciliation and Reconstruction. Reconciliation is mind oriented while Reconstruction is physical.

Hence it is necessary for those who are earnest in bringing about Reconciliation in Sri Lanka to appreciate the part that “perceptions” play in our activities. Even our friends from Great Britain may not be quite aware of our perceptions. The majority community and others have their own perceptions with regard to themselves and others. We have ours.

Let me state them for clarity.

Firstly let me state the perceptions of the Tamils of North and East in Sri Lanka. The Tamils of North and East of Sri Lanka do not consider themselves as minorities. They consider themselves as the majority in the North Eastern Province for more than 2000 years. It is in the last 100 years that intrusions and incursions have been made into  the terrain of the Tamil speaking by people from elsewhere.

The people of the North and East were Hindus from pre Buddhist times but some of them took to Buddhism a few centuries after Christ but rejected Buddhism and went back to Hinduism later. Though Buddhism was rejected by the Hindu Tamils, Buddhist places of worship were left in tact unharmed. Those who were Buddhists in the North and East were Tamil Buddhists. There were no Sinhala Buddhists at that time. In fact the Sinhala Language came into being only in the 6th century A.D.

Next the Tamils of the North and East opt for a Federal Constitution to preserve their language, religions as well as their culture, tradition and terrain. They seek internal right of self -determination on the basis of their individuality preserved for centuries.

They seek the merger of North and East since the Tamil speaking people must preserve their identity and individuality .

The perceptions of the Sinhalese too should be understood.

Many Sinhalese identify the Tamils of North and East with the recent Tamil immigrants from South India during British times during the past 200 years or so. They forget that the Tamils of the North and East occupied our Island even before the birth of Buddha. There had been waves of immigrants from India who added to the indigenous Tamil populations.

The Sinhalese are allergic to the term federalism since the politicians of both communities have created the belief that federalism is separation or federalism leads to separation. Both ideas are incorrect. Federalism joins together disparate entities of people. This perception of the Sinhalese that Federalism is separation and/ or leads to separation has stood in the way of reconciliation.

The Sinhalese have another wrong perception that Sri Lanka is the land of the Sinhalese. Long before the Sinhalese language was born out of Pali, Tamil and indigenous dialects, the Tamil Dravidians have been occupying this land for centuries. Lots of our Tamil leaders would shudder to say these truths for fear they would hurt the feelings of the Sinhalese. By not informing the truth we are consolidating the wrong perceptions fed into the Sinhalese mind.

Therefore I would say proper understanding of who we, viz. the Sinhalese and the Tamils, are and our history and reference to our roots and appreciation of same would go a long way in creating the ideal ambience for reconciliation.

It is not with a sense of egoistic pride that we speak about the Tamils. We refer to the actual history of the Tamils so that the Sinhalese would shed their wrong perceptions and begin to appreciate the Tamils.

Let me conclude by saying that while we delve deep into the Reconciliatory process, we should be conscious of the role played by our perceptions.

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    The chief minister has written a historical review of Sri Lankan Tamils without a hint of historical evidence. He expect us the believe what he has said without scrutiny.

    He wants us to accept just because Sinhalese language was developed later in the island itself that everything before that was Tamil. How can we accept the idea when there were humans living in this very island as far back as 30,000 years ago. What would Wiggie call these pre-historic people. Tamils?

    Are we going to discard the surmounting archaeological, anthropological, linguistic evidence that indicates Sinhalese has originated and cultured this island for more than 2500 years.

    Why do we have to discard it in order to glorify the separatist ideology of Tamils have being lived in the North and East for 1000s of years just because Tamils demand it.

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      Shenal

      “The chief minister has written a historical review of Sri Lankan Tamils without a hint of historical evidence.”
      —-
      It is similar to Mahawamsa, this is Tamil-Chuti-Wamsa.
      ——
      There have been discussion on history since Colombo Telegraph was first published. Please go back in time visit old articles.

      Come back another day under different avatar and ask the same stupid question again, again and again.

      If evidence is provided what are you going to do with it? Will you stop your reincarnation in order to type the meaningless same questions?

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        Archaeologist don’t take Mahavamsa for granted. They have only confirmed some of the reference mentioned in Mahavamsa.

        Therefore it doesn’t mean Tamils have to come up with complete bogus historical document just because Sinhalese have a chronicle.

        If evidence is provided I am happy to be stand corrected.

        Therefore, stop ranting nonsense and bring solid evidence.

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          “Sinhalese have a chronicle”

          Sinhalese have a chronicle that they cannot read or understand because it is not written in Sinhala but in Pali.

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        Dumb native Veddo:” IF you cn provide evidence. One Dr. NAthan also had written crap. FYI, Even caucasian – academics accept that Mahavamsa is the only text that provides a humn history to very ancient times. the reason, Mahavamsa Talks about “Sinhale” eistece even before Lord buddha’s time. Every where in our culture, The word Sinhale and how Sinhala people dies for the country is written. So, IF one “dr. NAthan” try to write the history or stupid Wiggy tries to cooy it as if he were living during the entire history, that will now work. We can not depend on on politicians. You know, how they do not get rid of theives becuse, they all should be theives. At least when it comes to the country, peole need to talk about it openly. Because, Tamils want a country here.————————Wiggi is saying he doe snot know his two son-in-laws and their father who is a crooked politician.

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        So you want to ridicule Mahavamsa so you equate that with the claims of this bogus historian.
        In CT, the history pundits tend to be ideological children of that racist GG Ponnambalam. In SL this is how they create history, take a name of a sinhala king add an n at the end. So you have tamil history :)

        After reading CT and those history debates in DBS Jeyaraj, there was a time I even bought what these fake pandits said. After that I actually researched and learned SL history with more effort. So I can say I am very much proficient about SL history now and can understand the fake tamil history these tamil racists try to spread.

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          In SL this is how they create history, take a name of a Tamil king and add an ‘a’ at the end. So you have Sinhala history. For example, Parakrama is the name of a Tamil king (see kings of Tamil Nadu – Parakrama Pandyan), remove Pandyan and add bahu at the end and it becomes Sinhala.

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          The issue is mate, these Tamil separatists have taken over the digital annals of Sri Lankan history. The historical evidence we find in the internet are all interpreted according to the likeness of the Eelam ideology. It is bloody shame that non of our Sinhalese scholars come up with strong response for this information gap regarding Sri Lankan history in the internet.

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            The issue is lying misinforming recently Sinhalised South Indian immigrants like you and Nalin Silva , Mutthkarrupan Weerawansa and their ilk are trying to rewrite history. Reputed Sinhalee scholars know the truth that is why they are quiet, as they know the so called Sinhalese are descended largely from indigenous Tamils and other tribes as well as Indian Tamil immigrants from ancient to fairly recent times. Just like your Karawa ancestors from Tamil Nadu then Tamil Kerala and southern Andhra. The indigenous dialect of the island was Elu which was old Tamil or a dialect of Tamil. Sinhalee vocabulary is 40% Tamil based. Its grammar syntax and lexicon as well as alphabet is purely based on Tamil. Not Pali not Sanskrit.

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      “Are we going to discard the surmounting archaeological, anthropological, linguistic evidence that indicates Sinhalese has originated and cultured this island for more than 2500 years.”

      What evidence do you have to prove that the surmounting archaeological, anthropological, linguistic evidence that indicates Sinhalese people cultured this island for more than 2500 years?

      There is a school of thought that a group of people called Sinhalese has originated and cultured this island only after the 12th century AD (Kotte & Kandy) and they became a majority after mixing with everything that landed on the Southern shores of Sri Lanka. During the Anuradapura period the people were not known as Sinhalese.

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        He He He
        Kathiraveli in Batticaloa district still has got proof for the existence of Tamils 2000+ ago.
        your culture?
        Even Sinhala new year and Kandy Perahara all copied from Tamils ..there was no Sinhala new year 80 years ago.
        cheers

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      Shenal

      “Are we going to discard the surmounting archaeological, anthropological, linguistic evidence that indicates Sinhalese has originated and cultured this island for more than 2500 years.”

      Are you saying that if there is a convincing “archaeological” evidence of Tamils’ presence in this island before the Sinhalese the latter would willingly let the former enjoy equality in power sharing or allow a peaceful co-existence.

      Have “Americans” tolerated “Red Indians” or Australians Aborigines or allowed power sharing with the original inhabitants of the respective countries.

      It’s the power of the ruling community that determines who is controlling whom or how the country is ruined or destroyed.

      You cannot argue that until Newton observed the fall of an apple there was no gravity. Not all the archaeological evidences are unearthed or completed and moreover the fact that Tamils in India lived only 18 miles away from this island and the existence of Adam Bridge cannot be denied.

      It’s the willingness of the majority to accommodate the minorities and peacefully co-exist will bring peace and prosperity and elevate all of us to the reality of prosperous Singaporeans.

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    The Sinhalese have another wrong perception that Sri Lanka is the land of the Sinhalese. Long before the Sinhalese language was born out of Pali, Tamil and indigenous dialects, the Tamil Dravidians have been occupying this land for centuries. //////

    Can this judge turned historian please mention any evidence to tamil settlements in SL? Because I have been asking this question from many but every tamil runs with tail behind.

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      sach

      Can you please mention any evidence to Sinhala settlements in SL? Because I have been asking this question from many but every Sinhalese runs with tail between the legs and reappear after some time under another article.

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        Somapala Appuhamy

        “reappear after some time under another article.”


        Under different name, different avatar, same stupid questions, …………………..

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        First off there are tons of inscriptions and epigraphs found through out the island suggesting that there was wide spread Sinhalese presence in the island. To amount to the we have never found any Tamil inscriptions and epigraphs confirming direct presence of Tamil settlements. AFAIK the only Tamil inscription found in the Jaffna peninsula was of the reign of king Parakramabhau in the 12th century. That also about his Vellakara troops.

        Are you disputing the time tested interpretations of those inscriptions and epigraphs?

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          “First off there are tons of inscriptions and epigraphs found through out the island suggesting that there was wide spread Sinhalese presence in the island.”

          Not even a single one of those tons of inscriptions and epigraphs found through out the island talk about any presence of Sinhalese people in the island. If you find at least one of them talking about the Sinhalese people, please let us know exactly what is written on it.

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          Shenali

          “That also about his Vellakara troops.”

          Aren’t you proud of your ancestors who arrived here to protect Dalada Maligawa and Buddha’s relics, Kings, Nobles, Nanadesi, Manigramam, Ayyavole-500 ….. and fight wars for Sinhala/Tamil kings? . You could trace your ancestors to EriviraPattinam in various parts of South India.

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          What tons of indsriptions in Sinhalese? Sinhalese only originated around the 8Th century . All the so called ancient inscriptions are in Tamil Brahmi. Most Sinhalese like your Karawa ancestors are recent low caste south Indian imports to the island. Now jumping up and down about ancient Sinhalese civilisations and Sinhalese Aryan culture. Non of the ancient kings in the island ever called themselves Sinhalese or Aryan as they were neither. They were from Dravidian Tamil speaking Naga origin or from Indian Tamil dyansties, The father of the king who converted to Buddhism was King Mutta Sivan or Mootha Sivan. This is a pure Tamil name meaning the great Siva. Even your so called Sinhalese hero Duttugemunu ( Sinhalese when no Sinhalese existed 2300 year ago) had a Tamil Naga father called Kakkai Vanna Theesan , meaning the king the colour of the crow or Kaavan Theesan meaning the protector. Your Mahavamsa fable by trying to portray Tamils were outsiders did the opposite it gives a constant history of Tamil lands kings and Tamils living in the island from 2300 years ago. Go and tell your lies and fairy tales to you Lanka web audience. Tamil origin Karawa Aunty

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        Somapala Appuhamy is a shameless Tamil who doe snot want to be identified as a Tamil even in his usr-ID. that is how Tamils are.———-Wigneswaran is a bankrupt politician. He is scam now as he shames even the judges. His area is full of crimes because of former LTTE caders have got into crimes. Dalit- Wiggi in order ot make happy stateless-Tamils living in western countries just try to spread basless propaganda and he is not thinking of keeping the reputation of his former profession. Now wiggi is just a gutter rat who spread baseless propaganda in ordr to live.

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          Jim softy is a shameless Sinhalese who does not want to be identified as a Sinhalese even in his user-ID. that is how Sinhalese are.———-

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        do you see any Sinhala civilisation in any part of SL other than SL? Sinhala is the product of SL. And these Sinhalese still exist today.
        Asking evidence for sinhala settlements in SL is like asking evidence for tamil settlements in TN….

        Get a history book and read, and Somapala at least start with the recent book by S.Pathmanadan

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          “Asking evidence for sinhala settlements in SL is like asking evidence for tamil settlements in TN….”

          Tamil Nadu is Tamil is obvious but Sri Lanka is Sinhalese is not so. When did Sinhala appear in Sri Lanka? It was a creation of the authors of the Pali chronicle. They picked up the word ‘Sinhala’ from the Indian mythology Mahabaratha and added it to the Mahavamsa.

          The problem with the Sinhalese is, they foolishly believe that the term “Sri Lanka” is equivalent to the term “Sinhala” forgetting the fact that one-third of Sri Lanka (known to Tamils as Eelam) belongs to the Tamils.

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          Sinhalese were produced in today Kerala then Tamil Sera kingdom and brought here as laborers.

          It was the Manawatu Hindu Clan from today’s South India first colonized in Kandy area later converted to Buddhism .

          Can any one deny this ‘?

          When Kandy, Polanaruwa, and Anuradhapura were thick jungles there was a shipping service between Trincomalee and Thirukovil in the East these places were big towns once.

          Still, believe Mahavamsa crap?
          This is why Mr.Wigneswaran says the history of this country should be re written.and a vertical excavation is a must by an international team.

          Cheers

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        Lets start :)

        1. Chronicles ( Wansha history)
        2. Pali literature that do not belong to wansha stories
        3. Sinhala literture
        4. Sinhala inscriptions that date back to 3 BC and showing evolution from 3 BC
        5. Archeological ruins

        And of course foreign sources.

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    Due to ignorance, confusion and lack of knowledge about different ethnic groups in Sri Lanka, most of the Sinhalese believe that the Tamils in Sri Lanka were brought by the British in the 19th century. The Tamils brought by the British in the 19th century were settled in the upcountry (Tea & rubber estates), their leader was Thondaman (Senior & Junior) for a long time, these poor people were the backbone to Sri Lanka’s economy, they NEVER asked for any separate state, self-determination/autonomy or federalism. It is the native indigenous Sri Lankan Tamils known as Eela Tamils of North & East Sri Lanka who is asking for federalism. —————

    The native indigenous Sri Lankan Tamils of North and East had and still have a clearly defined (Tamil speaking) territory, their historic habitat as their traditional homeland where they lived as a majority for several centuries as a separate nation with their own language, religion and culture. The North & East of Sri Lanka was Tamil, is Tamil and will be Tamil forever. The Tamils of N&E Sri Lanka are not just a minority, they are a territorial minority, a minority with a separate territory (N&E) and they are the majority in their territory. ——————-

    Having federal states in a country does not mean dividing the country into many separate countries. It is very unfortunate that the Sinhalese have never understood the meaning of federalism. One of the tragedies of Sri Lanka is that the Sinhalese have never understood the meaning of federalism or they pretend not to understand. If the Sinhalese continue to deny the rights of Tamils and insist that the whole of Sri Lanka belongs to them, it will only push the Tamil leaders to seek alternative measures like mobilizing large masses, if not all of the Tamil people, for a Non-violent campaign with Direct Action or even go further by calling for a UN sponsored referendum to be held for the North & East Tamils in Sri Lanka to decide their fate.

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      Cholas invaded Sri Lanka back in 12th century. They never mentioned the presence of any indigenous Tamil kingdom in the North and East of the island.?

      Do you think they were mistaken?

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        Shenali

        ” They never mentioned the presence of any indigenous Tamil kingdom in the North and East of the island.?”

        They were invaders just like the Sinhala/Buddhists, why would they recognize and legitimize another king as the ruler of concurred land? How stupid you can be? There have been Tamil kings if you care to find them, Ilangaiyarkku Iraivan, Ilangeswaren , Sri Sangapanmar,

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          Because just before an invasion. The invading army do some recce on the land they are about to conquer. This is the standard practice from the ancient times. If, there was an independent Tamil kingdom in the North and East; didn’t they care to mention about them. Wouldn’t they have to fight them also to win the island for themselves. Did any kind of such things happened?

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        Tamils were already present in substantial proportions the NE of the island. This fact has been mentioned in the historic serialised novel ‘Ponniyin Selvan’ by Kali Krishnamoorthy in his popular weekly Tamil periodical called ‘Kalki’.

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        @Shenal

        Yes, Mahavamsa comic book never mentioned about the people during Chola invasion.Mahavamsa comic book hides many truths about Tamils and your Sinhala archeological commissioners like Paranawitharana destroyed many Tamil related monuments.

        Why go far at the end of 19th-century Britsh officers went for population census in Anuradhapura have clearly mentioned that people living here are speaking Tamil.

        Before independence Polanaruwa area was a thick forest the first
        Buddhist monk entered here met people who spoke Tamil.

        So there were no Sinhalese even in Polonnaruwa and Anuradhapura it seems.

        He He He here they talk about BC and AD.

        There should be a vertical archeological excavation all over this country by an international expert to unearth the truth …so Devanambiya Tissa would have been a Tamil king as questioned by Mr, Wigneswaran.

        Cheers

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      I asked you a question once and you did not answer me.

      What are the sources and evidence to make the claim that Tamil settlements that are 2000 years old existed in SL? What are the archaeological, historical evidences to suggest it?

      Before that you said Tikiri Abeysinghe had done an excellent book on Jaffna history and he does not mention Sinhalese lived in Jaffna. I asked you then why did Tikiri Abeysinghe calls Kayts island as Urathota which is the ancient name for Kayts?

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        Sach,
        “I asked you then why did Tikiri Abeysinghe calls Kayts island as Urathota which is the ancient name for Kayts?”

        I have a copy of his book ‘Jaffna Under the Portuguese’. In Chapter 3 pages 18 – 20 he talks about Kayts and Kayts Fort but nowhere had he mentioned the word ‘Urathota’. If you have read this book please let us know where exactly (on which page) you found this term.

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      So why did these tamils fail to have any cultural output? When sinhalese built huge viharas and when Tamils in TN built huge temples in TN why could not Tamils in North built a single thing?

      When Sinhalese culture is full of age old traditions, what does tamils in SL have apart from substandard copy cats from TN?

      When Sinhalese nation and civilisation was mentioned by Chola kings who conquered parts of why did they miss the Tamils in SL?

      When North Indian sources talk about Sinhalese in SL, why have not they mentioned about Tamils in SL?

      When CHinese have talked about Sinhalese in SL, why have they missed Tamils in SL?

      When Burmese talked about Sinhalese in SL, why have they missed Tamils in SL?

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        We have seen that both the ruling and the usurping kings of Sri Lanka depended not only on South Indian Builders but also on Tamil Armies to secure the throne, and this continued until the European colonials arrived.

        If you go to India even today, whether it is North or South, you will find plenty of extraordinarily wonderful ancient architecture. The best part is the decedents of those people who constructed those structures, reservoirs, etc are still constructing, carving or building exactly like their forefathers.

        If there were such skilled people in Sri Lanka during the ancient time then what happened to them later? Why there are no such people today in Sri Lanka but there are such people in South/North India doing the same thing even today? If you say the Sinhalese built all those Reservoirs what happened to them now?

        Why did todays Sinhalese bring foreign designers, architects, and Engineers to build Mahaweli, Kothmale, Randenigala and all other reservoirs?

        If you see in India, just like the ancient past, even today all their Reservoirs are built by Indian designers, architects, and Engineers. In Sri Lanka, just like today even in the ancient past, the rulers/kings got down designers, architects, and Engineers from South India.

        The Cave Temples, Dagobas/Stupas, Irrigation Tanks, etc. may be built by the kings (Tamil or others) who ruled the country but the Architects, Engineers, Craftsmen, builders and skilled labor were all brought down (imported) from South India. Repairs to the tanks and the maintenance of irrigation and cultivation could not be affected without the aid of specially trained men from the Tamil country of South India. Sir James Emerson Tennent, Colonial Secretary to the British Government of Ceylon (1845-1850) tells us even during his time, the expertise/services from Tamil country had to be obtained for repairing tanks in the North Central Province.

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          SOMAPALA APPU-THOTHTHA BABA……………Why You are Behaving Like A ThoTha -Baba Do Not You Have Ever Heard The Great Masacre and Arson Done To The Sinhalese People During The Uva -wellassa The Great Sinhale Revellution In The Year 1818…………. By The Invading British Led By That Dictator Robert Brownrigg To Sinhale People..The Land …Reservoirs…..Trees….Men ..Women…Children….Animals ETC……………The Sinhale Was Soaked With Blood And The History Hidden……That Is What Been Continued Upto Now And That Is Why These Extremists Like Vigneshwaran Shouting About A Made Up History…………But Archaelogical Findings Give Ample Proof Of A Golden Cultural Heritage In the Island Nation Of Sinhale

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        It seems there were 6 Hindu temples in ancient Ceylon.
        Portuguese sailors have mentioned about the golden gopuram of Siva temple in Dondara.
        Even today there are ruins of a Hindu temple in Mawanella.
        Why old story ? Till 1983 near Polgawala railway station there was a big Pillaiyar temple after July massacre this was converted as a Vihara .
        Same happened to many Hindu temples and Tamil identities all over the country.

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          It must be pointed out that after 1560; the Portuguese began destroying the ancient Hindu Temples . Destruction and vandalism by the Portuguese gathered momentum, immediately after the capture of the Tamil Kingdom in 1621. Filipe de Oliveriya, the Portuguese Governor, who was acclaimed for destroying more than 500 Hindu Temples. Brutal acts of vandalism and destruction carried out by the ruthless Portuguese were, unfortunately being compromised and tolerated even today, without any whimper by the international community. Barbaric destruction by the Portuguese has to be condemned, universally. Tamils today demands unconditional apology and reparation for the damages.

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          The pink color Royal Standard, with recumbent bull, crescent and the rising sun, given by Irama (Rama) to the first Arya Chakaravarthy, fluttered high and aloft, in the proud land of the Tamils, for well over 2500 year long period, displaying loftily their sovereignty and independence. At last, it was brought down forever, on 11 February 1621, when the kingdom fell permanently in the hands of the Portuguese.
          Nearly, 1200 heads of the Tanjore Nayakar’s troops were lopped off, at the last confrontation that ensued at Atchuvely. The fatalities included Tamil rebels, who joined forces to retrieve the kingdom from the Portuguese. Ultimately, Portuguese managed to hold on with their prized possession, “the Tamil kingdom,” until 21 June 1658, on which day; the Dutch captured and brought the kingdom under their rule

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          Filipe De Oliverya, the commander of the Portuguese army, moved his base to Nallur, on 2 February 1621, and proclaimed himself, the Captain Major – the highest Portuguese army official in the region and the governor of the Kingdom. On the same day, most of the Hindu shrines, including Nallur Kandasamy Kovil were razed down on the explicit orders of the fanatic – Oliveriya. Portuguese and the Lascarins (hired Sinhalese mercenaries in the service of the Portuguese) from the South, looted Nallur Kandasamy temple, burnt it down and removed even the stones from the foundations, to build a Christian church at Nallur and a fort in Jaffna.
          Oliveriya was acclaimed by the Portuguese, as a greatest savior of Christianity, for his feat of destroying more than 500 Hindu temples. The Portuguese historian, Father Fernoa De Queyroz acclaimed him, “God of the Sword

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          When Filipe De Oliveriya became the Governor of Jaffna, he ruled the Kingdom with a strong hand, ruthlessly and with arrogant resolve. He proclaimed that people continuing with the practice of Hindu religion and rites, are anti-Christians, an act punishable by law. Under his hierarchy, the Society of Jesus – the Roman Catholic missionary, constructed nearly thirty Catholic churches by vandalizing and demolishing Hindu temples. He introduced compulsory proselytizing. Franciscan Friars converted more 6000 Tamils to Christianity.
          The destruction of famous Hindu temples such as the Nallur Kandasamy Kovil (Nallur), Kailasanathar Temple (Nallur), in 1575 Muneswaram Temple, Chilapam (Chillaw), in 1588 Vishnu Temple in Devinuwera, Tirukethieswaram Temple, Mathoddam (Matota) and in 1622 Tiru Konesar Temple, Thirukonamalai (Trincomalee), caused great frustration, dissension and restlessness in the hearts and minds of the Tamils. .

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          Oliveriya also burnt down “Saraswathy Mahal,” – the oldest museum and the library, that housed precious and the most valuable historical documents, depicting the origin, history, literature, arts, science, medicine, culture, civilization and other details of the Tamils and of their proud ancestry. Once this ancient museum cum library was burnt down, up to date, the Tamils are left without any authentic records of their antiquity.
          The Portuguese conquest of the Kingdom became possible, when the Tamil chiefs revolted against the traditional monarchs, due to their shift in allegiance, after conversion to Christianity. Portuguese managed to create a strong loyal group of Catholics, who provided them with the intelligence reports and reconnaissance to counter the moves of the kings. Portuguese also used the Sinhalese mercenaries for combat, as well as to guard the Tamil Kingdom.

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        Tamils built a lot and they were all destroyed by the Portuguese, just like the destroyed everything along the coastal Sinhalese areas in the Kotte kingdom. They destroyed the ancient historic Hindu temples more than 1500 years old Thirukeetheswaram in Mannar, Konneswaram in Thirumalai or now called Trincomallee, Munneswaran in Chilapam now called Chilaw. Nuglesswaram in Jaffna and even the Kandaswamy Kovil in Nallur. The Jaffna king’s Palace and Saraswathy Mahal which Oliveriya also burnt down “Saraswathy Mahal,” – the oldest museum and the library, that housed precious and the most valuable historical documents, depicting the origin, history, literature, arts, science, medicine, culture, civilization and other details of the Tamils and of their proud ancestry. Once this ancient museum cum library was burnt down, up to date, the Tamils are left without any authentic records of their antiquity. Polonarruwa that the Sinhalese falsely portray as ancient Sinhalese ,was built by the Tamil Cholas

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        One of the ancient Tamil names for the island was Chingkalam and the island was called Chinkalatheeveu and the semi Tamil Elu speaking native population called Chingkallavar. or Eelavar or Eezhavar. ( Just like the Eezhava of Kerala who migrated to then Tamil Chera Nadu from Tamil Eelam or Eezham, This is why they are called Eezhava and not Helava .) Hela or old Sinhalese is Elu(Tamil) + Prakrit= Hela or old Sinhalese still very close to its Tamil mother.
        Chingkallam means in Tamil the land of red or copper coloured. Chem/Chikappu ( red) or Cheppu( copper) . Alam means a sliver of land. Like Keralam or Cheralam or Puttalam ( new sliver or land) . Cheppu+ Alam = Chingkalam and it has nothing to with lions. When the Tamil population down south converted to Buddhism and started corrupting their language with the Pali of Buddhism, this newly evolving people identified themselves by the ancient Tamil name for the island Chingkalam which became Sinhala. When all these ancient texts refer to Sinhala or Chinkalam they are referring to this ancient Tamil name. The population that retained its ancient Tamil/Elu identity called them selves by the other name Eelavar or Eelath Thamilar

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      Methinks there is much sense in what you say, Kumar!

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    Can this learned gentleman provide proof?

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      Gibbon

      The well established Sinhala/Buddhist historians always start with the story of early period in Mahawamsa, Buddha’s three visits, cleansing this island, the beauty and the beast, Sinhabahu, Vijaya, 700 thugs, Kuveini, …………… without citing any evidence. When questioned the always cited tradition. Now could you provide us evidence for the early part of Mahawamsa, the bible of the Sinhala/Buddhists.

      However, there are scientific evidences which point out close affinity among Tamils of this island, Sinhalese, and Tamils of Tamil Nadu.

      In other words Tamils and Sinhalese of this island are the descendants of Kallathonies from South India. What more evidence do you need to prove your Sinhala/Tamil origin?

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        Exactly. There is no evidence to support the early stories of the Mahavansa.

        Then why do you cling on to the belief that Sinhalese came from India?

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          But more than 70 %of the islands Sinhalese came from then Tamil South India including your Karwa slave ancestors who were imported into the island by the Portuguese and now you go around talking about ancient Sinhalese Aryan civilisation and spread lies and hatred in Sinhalese extremist sites like Lankaweb , Largely patronised by other recently Sinhalised South Indian low caste imports like you, and by some Muslim fanatics , now baying for the blood of the indigenous Tamils who had lived in the island for more than 2300 years. Funny recently Sinhalised Karawa/Slagamma . Durawa low caste South Indian imports that only arrived in the island a few centuries ago , as slave labour now claiming that you belong but the island’s indigenous Tamils who lived in the island for more than 2300 years and ruled their lands in the north and east do not belong but must be chased off to India.

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        Dumb Native Veddo: instead of your gibberish, talk with evidence. Other wise, you scream like a dog. but it looks like braying. Nothing to extract, just garbage. I wrote else where. Sinhala people had REservoir-village- temple concept civilization every where in the island. Why Yapanaya Tamils, at least did not copy it and to get water. Now, only they are discussing about water to yapanaya. why ?

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          This reservoir and village temple culture is typically Tamil and South Indian. Look at all the terms used in the Sinhalese language to describe this culture all from Tamil

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        About mahavamsa and sinhala history, read S.Pathmanadan’s book. Seems you have still not read it.

        /However, there are scientific evidences which point out close affinity among Tamils of this island, Sinhalese, and Tamils of Tamil Nadu.//
        The South Indian sources like chola inscriptions only talk about Sinhalese in SL, they have not even mentioned about a tamil kingdom in North. Not only the Tamils in TN every foreign source.

        Sinhalese are the product when native people absorbed the immigrants. You very well know Tamils have no evidence to back up your story. So act like a vaddha and try to put both the Sinhalese ( who are the civilisational product of SL) with Tamils whose history do not go than 13 AD.

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    Stop talking this humbug about Tamil Buddhists in Jaffna. There isn’t a single thread of evidence to prove that. There are hundreds of archeological sites in the North and East to prove that Sinhala Buddhists lived in that area. Even in Jaffna Peninsula, there are Buddhist archeological sites. Now most of them are vandalized and destroyed by Kallathoni Tamils.

    A report submitted by Mr. Cyril Mathew to UNESCO entitled “An Appeal to UNESCO to Safeguard and Preserve the Cultural Property in Sri Lanka Endangered by Racial Prejudice, Unlawful Occupation or Willful Destruction” in 1983 gives solid examples of 24 archaeological sites linked to Sinhala Buddhists in the North Central part of Sri Lanka which are been vandalized or destroyed by Tamils. In that report he is making an appeal to UNESCO to intervene and save these historically valuable sites. Here are two examples:

    Nilaveri is situated ¼ mile away from Puttur in Jaffna District. There is an ancient well and foundations of an ancient structure by the side of an ancient Bodhi tree. To the west of the Bodhi tree are found pieces of sculptures, stone pillars and brick-bats scattered all over the place. A lime stone Buddha statue recovered from the site is exhibited in the Jaffna archeological museum.

    Ettama in Potuvil is a site with the remains of a Buddhist Vihara and a Stupa. At present a modern Hindu Kovil covers the site. At the site there is a beautiful foot-print of Buddha carved on a rock boulder.
    There is a photograph showing the remains of ancient Stupas at Kantarodai, Jaffna. (Source: http://www.jaffnahistory.com/Cyril.pdf ). What other evidence the fake Tamil historians who write cooked up stories in this site want to accept the fact that Sinhala Buddhists lived in Jaffna before Tamil invaders from Hindusthan wiped them out.

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      All the Buddhist sites in the Tamil North and East belongs to the Tamils. They are NOT Sinhala-Buddhist heritage sites but Tamil-Buddhist heritage sites. They are the remnants left by the Tamil-Buddhists of the past. Only a very few centuries ago in Sri Lanka, everything Buddhist became Sinhalese and everything Hindu became Tamil but in the past, everything Buddhist is both Sinhala and Tamil and everything Hindu is also both Sinhala and Tamil.

      “Sinhala Buddhists lived in Jaffna before Tamil invaders from Hindusthan wiped them out.”

      First of all, let me remind you that both Sinhala (decedents of Kallathoni Vijay) and Buddhism were from Hindustan. How can anybody come and wipe out the people in the area? Which history says, Tamil invaders from Hindusthan came and wiped out the Sinhala-Buddhists of Jaffna? Where on earth is it said Sinhala-Buddhists lived in Jaffna before the Tamils? You are simply pointing at the Tamil Buddhist sites in Jaffna and saying it belonged to the Sinhalese. Please bring some evidence to prove it. Unlike the Tamils, you have the Mahavamsa and many other evidence so prove it.

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        How come so? Just because Tamils live in those place presently doesn’t mean it was belonged to Tamils back then. What evidence you have to prove they belong to Tamils exclusively? Your gut feelings or hypothesis cannot be taken as evidence.

        Have you ever heard of Vallipuram inscriptions? It clearly said king Vasabha had the authority over the area. Do you people still deny that? Was Vasabha not a Sinhala king?

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      Dear Eagle Eye / August 6, 2017 19:09, I don’t think that what you say necessarily contradicts what Wigneswaran says. Last year a group of us retired Sinhalesegovernment school teachers visited Thiriyaya, where also Cyril Mathew had been active. Most swallowed all that was given them by today’s Sinhala-Buddhists. One Marxist considered it all irrelevant.

      As for me, what I know is that the language used by Devanampiya Tissa wouldn’t be understood by any of us. So, let Wiggie stretch it a bit further. There is so little detached objectivity possible in our country still.

      I’m more familiar with the history of the English Language. Few are comfortable with Elizabethan English even with modernised spelling and pronunciation. I’m quite comfortable with it, actually. Reading Chaucer who died in 1400 requires real effort. Playing around with the Internet is one today’s new joys; just tried this:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K13GJkGvDw

      That’s Beowulf, roughly 1,000 A.D. Interesting, yes, and fortunately we won’t have all those atavistic emotions coming in since it’s not “our language”! Let us just grant that it just doesn’t make sense to start quarrelling about language and ethnicity so far back in history. Let’s study it, certainly, but in a detached way – or for personal satisfaction get emotional in private!

      Please don’t encourage State or politically-sponsored colonization!

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    “The Perception of The Sinhalese Should Also Be Understood”. If you did understand this at the beginning of becoming the Chief Minister, this country would have by now arriving at the Goal Post. Never too late. Thank you for this “LATE” understanding. Now it is for you to LIVE up to what you preach. You too being a politician, I hate to believe in you. But let us wait and see.

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    Provincial council boundaries were drawn by ‘Awajathaka’ British for administrative purposes and has nothing to do with ethnicity. At present there are about 20% Tamil speaking people in Sri Lanka. In order to settle this matter the Government should give 20% of the land in the North to Tamil speaking people including Muslims and demarcate the boundary as a straight line from East to West and ask all the Tamil speaking people to move to ‘Kallathonisthan’.

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    Contrary to what Justice Wigneswaran said, genetical analysis shows Sinhalese and Tamils are genetically similar and neither of them are genetically similar to Indian Tamils or other north Indians though both carry certain percentage of mixer of Tamil, Bengali and other Indian genes. It is clear that genetically Tamils and Sinhalese belongs to same group of people but culturally different due to religious and linguistic differences.

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    I think, One Dr. NAthan Wrote a similar article and this crap of Wigi follows it. I read Dr. NAthan’s article I thought what a stupid doctor he is and how connaiving he was. IF that idiot had a doctorate he must know he can not write anything without giving evidence. So, people can question it. but, That idiot Dr. Nathan has put forwarded one whole theory saying even at Lemuria’s time there were Tamils in sinhale. ————I paste the lemuria discussion given in the public domain. Lemuria is the name of a hypothetical “lost land” variously located in the Indian and Pacific Oceans. The concept’s 19th-century origins are from attempts to account for discontinuities in biogeography; however, the concept of Lemuria has been rendered obsolete by modern theories of plate tectonics. Although sunken continents do exist – like Zealandia in the Pacific as well as Mauritia and the Kerguelen Plateau in the Indian Ocean – there is no known geological formation under the Indian or Pacific Oceans that corresponds to the hypothetical Lemuria.”

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    Rather patronizing towards the Sinhalese whom CVW wishes to woo:
    “It is not with a sense of egoistic pride that we speak about the Tamils. We refer to the actual history of the Tamils so that the Sinhalese would shed their wrong perceptions and begin to appreciate the Tamils.”
    *
    All along, it was insensitivity to the sentiments of other nationalities of the country that mostly led to the isolation of the Tamil nationalists.
    History is seldom a strong point of nationalists. They invent history and refuse to learn from the past.
    *
    Recent history of the Lankan Tamils has several worrying features. Caste and gender oppression persist and religious intolerance is on the rise, while leaders worship foreign masters.
    It is time that the Tamil leaders put their house in order before seeking ‘appreciation’.

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      “It is not with a sense of egoistic pride that we speak about the Tamils. We refer to the actual history of the Tamils so that the Sinhalese would shed their wrong perceptions and begin to appreciate the Tamils.”
      *
      All along, it was insensitivity to the sentiments of other nationalities of the country that mostly led to the isolation of the Tamil nationalists.
      History is seldom a strong point of nationalists. They invent history and refuse to learn from the past.

      — Does not the second passage describe Tamil fake historians appropriately?

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      Tamils have a great history but in Tamil Nadu and not in SL.
      As a tamil have not you ever wondered that Tamils tend to be eccentric about their language unlike any other community? Fake history stories, everything originated from tamil bla bla bla mentality is very severe with Tamils. Even the educated ones among them believe it.

      Go and look at tamil temples in TN…go and look at Sinhala Viharas in Sri Lanka…why dont Tamils in SL have anything? Why?

      Any community that is 2000-3000 years old would have left at least one archological wonder. Why do tamils in SL have none? All the old Hindu temples in SL were either built by Chola kings and Sinhala kings. Why?

      Why did Tamils had to steal the tiger, the chola emblem from TN instead of going for an Eelam heritage emblem? Because you had nothing that can be used.

      One does not need to be a historian to understand these things, simply being rational is enough

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        Everything changed in Sri Lanka only after they adopted the new religion (Buddhism), a new culture (Buddhist culture), a new language (Prakrith/pali), a new emblem (Asoka’s Indian Lion) and a script (Ashokan Brahmi), only after the Indian Emperor Ashoka sent his missionary monks led by Mahinda to convert King Muta Siva’s (muta means elder in Tamil and Siva of course everybody know) son Prince Tissa.

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      Only thing worrying is you. Always fawning and kow towing to Sinhalese racists and Muslims fanatics and constantly running down Tamils in all your posts.

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    I’m not a historian, and I don’t see the relevance of TRYING to be one in my old age. However, it strikes me that we’ve got to have some sort of ATTITUDE towards the people of our county.

    On one thing I agree with Mr C.V. Wigneswaran: I find it shocking that so many Sinhalese NOW seem to think that ALL Tamils were brought to Sri Lanka by the British. This ignorance may seem shocking to me, but what I’m beginning to realise is that although I don’t know the Tamil language, I was fortunate in my education. We had both Ceylon Tamils and Up-Country Tamils (and also Moors, a few Malays – but we didn’t know the distinction) with us in school. I have just lauded the sentiments expressed in the Hoole-Nesiah article about the Tamils whom the Brits brought in.

    Perhaps we were privileged. The question is, given the present chaos, plus the myth-weaving, how do we set about teaching History to students now in schools? If, even when the discussion is in English we see ridiculous positions being held one shudders to think of what it is like when all the teaching is in Sinhala or Tamil in segregated schools.

    I’ve just done some thinking and website searches about when the Sinhala Language began; yes, perhaps the 6th Century AD – but just browsing the Internet is insufficient! We just wouldn’t understand the language of the period in any case. Why not make that confession and get on with living together in this land of ours?

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      Sinhala_Man,

      I think some of the myths about Tamil history have been reinforced by the Jathika Chinthanaya people like Nalin de Silva.

      A fairly distinguished engineering professor in the US, originally from the deep South of Sri Lanka, once told me that Tamils of the North-East were brought by the Dutch from India to work in tobacco plantations. I had to tell him if he, with all his education, both in Sri Lanka and the West, held such views, what hope did we have for ordinary Sinhalese people?

      He was a fan of Nalin de Silva. I considered it a tragedy since outside his negative political perceptions about Tamils, he had a heart of gold and was very helpful to people from all communities, including Tamils whom he hated at a political level.

      On these issues, I took a different view from many other Tamils. I say that I don’t care about old history; we should care about ‘living history,’ meaning what people can remember by directly hearing history, including any grievances, from his parents, grand parents and possibly great-grand parents who were present in their lives. And that means the living memory of the oldest living person . That means no more than 200 years of the past is relevant to the political discourse. Of course people can study all they want about ancient history, but for making political claims or for grievance politics, ancient history is irrelevant.

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        It was GG Ponnambalam who brought history to Sri Lanka’s political debate. And you can see CV doing the same. I in fact like what he does because we can debate and put this debate to rest once we are done with it.

        While it is false that whole of Tamils in NE were brought by dutch for tobabacco cultuvation, total eelam story is also false.

        That is why Eelamists have nothing to prove their bogus history.

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        Agnos: You are rewriting all the old discussions or crap. When Tamil move anywhere in the world, they speak the majority language in that country and live the majority culture in that country. Only in Sri lanka, hey want Tamil as their language. In order to support that, we have dickless sinhala politicians who caters to tamil and muslim extremism. See TNA and SLNC are by anems they are racist. but, only JHU is bashed by media. Even the media is fo rmoney.

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          “When Tamil move anywhere in the world, they speak the majority language in that country and live the majority culture in that country.”

          When Tamil or Sinhalese move anywhere in the world, they speak the majority language in that country and live the majority culture in that country but when they are in their own country where they had their own kingdom (North & East) they follow the majority language of their own region (Tamil) and live the majority culture of their own region.

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          Jim Softy,

          If you stop consuming all the ‘soft-porn’ that you read and watch, you will realize that unlike in the US, UK, Canada, Australia where Tamils adopt the English language, even rational Sinhalese don’t deny that the last King of Kandy was a Tamil man and that his signature was in Tamil.

          Go back to your logic 101 class, old man. Nor can anyone deny the presence of ancient Hindu temples beginning several centuries. back. Try to get rid of your hate and you will begin to see, read and reason better.

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        Thank you, Agnos.

        What you say about ‘living history’ is eminently sensible.

        Wij / August 6, 2017 20:14 above, disagrees with Wigneswaran, but he, too, has arrived at an ATTITUDE that is sensible. He says:

        ” It is clear that genetically Tamils and Sinhalese belongs to same group of people but culturally different due to religious and linguistic differences”.

        “Jim softy” always wanting to say things (and knowing that Sinhala_Man is an idiot!) obviously doesn’t believe in adhering to that 200 year strategy for living happily. If he denies that rule of thumb, he’d also better go back to that strange place in India that he recommends for Tamils!

        If only we whole-heartedly embraced a practical Three Language (an International Language does become essential now) how much easier for us all to live!

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      Put another way, if Tamils can show they have been in certain parts of Sri Lanka for an unbroken period of at least 200 years, and that during those 200 years they have been mistreated repeatedly– pogroms, riots, other forms of discrimination, etc.–they are entitled to fight for their rights as an organized political group, and make various demands.

      Some Tamil nationalists look at the history of ancient Tamils, how there were Tamil Kings, etc., and say what is wrong in Tamils trying to rule themselves again?

      Although I don’t doubt the antiquity of Tamil presence in Sri Lanka, records of ancient history are inherently unreliable. Archaeologists can dig up something and then jump to conclusions, but no firm scientific and rational conclusions can be made.

      I think about 500 years of Tamil history is very reliable, with recorded and verifiable history, and that is amply more than the 200 years that I discussed as relevant to making political claims.

      So there is no need for endless debates on more ancient history.

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        Because it is unethical, wrong to claim bogus history stories and steal someone else’s homeland. No just because any community feels like we need a separate state, no one is bound to give it them.

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          It is a former supreme court Judge who is writing these bogus claims, bogus history . Can you belueve how respectful Tamils are ?. What is his value in him as a respectable citizen in the country. HE even ridicule his two daughter in laws and their families. Probably his sons may be saying we are superior +and you are low. IF not this is the calibre of the “thuttu deke” politicians.

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          sach

          Bogus history is what you people are following from the day the British translated the Pali chronicle. You people have already stolen 40% of the Tamil homeland in the name of colonization.

          In Sri Lanka, the history is already twisted many centuries ago and sealed. What we have is not history but his-story (Ven. Mahanama’s fictional story what he wrote after smoking ganga). After several centuries today the myth has become the truth and the Sinhalese believe it as gospel. If anybody try to undo the twist (after enormous amount of new discoveries to disprove Mahavamsa) he/she will be considered an unpatriotic traitor or even a terrorist supporter.

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        Agnos
        Well said about history.
        There are interesting studies like that by Prof. K. Indrapala in the 1990’s which was published as a book not long ago, which help us to understand how things were between communities and how interaction ceased between the North and South at some stage.
        Narrow nationalism has far more self interest to it than public interest.

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      Sinhala-man. You are just an idiot. who knows very little. Tamils have their motherland just 16 KMs away in south India. Why should We sihala people people give our Sinhale to them. there are 10% of mslayalis and 10% of Thelugus (my percentages arfe wrong) in Tamilnadu. Tamilnadu do not consider even dalits as humans and forget the rights of thelugus or malayalis. these Tamils want their homeland here, because even Wiggi is VIP only in Sri lanka. In Tamilnadu he is no body probeably he would not have been a judge. Because his position is above the dalit quota.

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        @Jim Softy

        I you are talking about homelands most of the so called Sinhalese today do originate from Southern Indian groups such as Tamils, Telegus, malayalis with a large minority coming from Bengal. So if the Tamils have to go back to the homeland so should you and This is coming from a Sinhalese. Also even if you do say that Sinhalese are desceded from Bengalis remember that most Bengalis are of mongoloid and dravidian stock. So either way most of the Sinhalese are of dravidian stock.

        Also if you are talking about the treatment of untouchables if I am correct it is Bihar that ranks the worst. Why don’t you talk about them??

        Second of all if you are talking about Malayalis I am not suprised that many people in Tamilnadu dislike them. They are the sort of people who beg people of other states to give them a job and then once they get there they start bragging about how intelligent they are. Also these Malayalis are the ultimate hypocrites they refuse to do manual labour in India and they show off their big houses and when you ask them how did they get the money they will say that they worked in the middle east doing the same menial labour jobs that they refuse to do India.

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          Sinhalese is born by the absorption of the immigrants by the native people. So we have Bengali, Tamil and many genetics. It is actually a good thing.

          Now how is it relevant to here? Does that prove the laughable claim, that Tamils existed before Buddhas’ birth?

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          ABCD: IF Tamils were living in the North All along, why they did not learn to build a tank for water needs. Instead, they talk about water for Jaffna now. Why ? We Sinhala people established a civilization for us. Out culture is being destroyed right now it is becuase of all the leaders including monks and politicians. It is time for us to take into vigilante hands and do ourselves. ABCD, FYI, every Indian is like that. See how you Tamils go all over the world doing menial jobs, talking the majority language, but when it comes to Sinhale you Tamils become completely different people.

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    Native Vedda: I think all of us must stop this debate on “VAMSAS” and start refresh our minds in rebuilding our country as “Sri Lankans”. So to discard this “VAMSAS” debate, shall we start by tracing back the origin of the spread of the HUMANS starting from Africa into all the continents. That is a big story; yet worth to get to that “Common Platform” and give a secondary place to all types of “Vamsas” so as to think in terms of a NATION called Sri Lankans. Isn’t it worth efforts?

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      Douglas Thanks

      “so as to think in terms of a NATION called Sri Lankans. Isn’t it worth efforts?”

      Yes, however one must define the NATION CALLED Sri Lanka. Every Tamil/Sinhala speaking Tom, Dick and Harry should feel he/she is part of the Nation. Hence we need to define the idea/concept of Nation, then Sri Lankan Nation,… then define what sort of nation building process that would be suitable for this island, how you educate and persuade the stupids on all sights of the process, …………………….. First the Name Sri Lanka was illegally forced on to the people by the Weeping Widow (and SJ’s dream girl) Siri Mao without being tested in a public referendum which continued under JR’s second republic constitution. And Chapter II, Buddha’s teaching cannot and should not be left to the crooks for protection, and the constitution should be secular. Crooks should not be given the right to hide behind Buddha Sasana when they are in trouble. ………………………………………. We will continue this discussion later. ————–No one in their right mind believes/knows we are the temporary custodian of this land, a short lease holders. The country belongs to the future generations. ——We are too clever, we pose danger to the environment, livelihood, and the entire planet. We are too busy because we can’t share resources in an equitable way, greed determines needs. There is no escape from greed and Paranoia.

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    The Chief Minister could have made a statesmanlike positive contribution to this vexed question. Reconciliation is possible only among equals.

    The key word in reconciliation is “empathy”.

    Empathy is not sympathy.

    It is standing on the othermans shoe and look at things.

    The Tamils should understand the Sinhalease why they think and act the way they do and similarly the Sinhalease also do so!

    Both communities have a a galaxy of very decent and human beings.

    This may not be possible among ordinary people but the people who were trained to think out of the box or for lateral thinkers, it was not a difficult proposition!

    However sharing of scarce resources is a difficult proposition! And is the need to dominate over other beings is a natural instinct among all species?

    These are all some random thoughts

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      Tamils need to understand that Sinhalese like Tamils have every right to protect their homeland.
      And it has done great harm by the tamils tendency to create fake history.
      FAKE HISTORY by tamil politicians is the biggest reason or root of the conflict.

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        Tamils understand that the Sinhalese have right to protect their homeland similar to Tamils have the right to protect their homeland. The homeland for Tamils and Sinhalese are in the island of Srilanka. North East of Srilanka is the homeland for Tamils and SouthWest of Srilanka is the homeland for Sinhalese. Population statistics, historical evidences undoubtedly proof these facts irrespective of where they came from. Wigneswaran talks about the perception of Sinhalese that Tamils are the recent migrants brought from Tamil Nadu which is a complete lie spreaded by Buddhist Sinhala Fundamentalists. Federalism was accepted by most Sinhalese leadership to reflect the fact that North East Srilanka is the homeland for Tamils.

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          How can same person have two biological mothers? Can same single ethnicity have two different homeland? What sort of moronic logic is that?

          North East can never be the exclusive homeland of the Tamils. Because it is part of Sinhala heritage. Rest of Sri Lanka should be exclusive Sinhala homeland while NE should be homeland of both Sinhalese and Tamils. That is the best way.

          Every tamil has to come from TN. That is the reality. The only thing that is different is ‘when?’

          Federalism was not accepted by any Sinhala leadership. What tamils discuss with Sinhala politicians in secret is not relevant to us.

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            “Can same single ethnicity have two different homeland?”

            Look at the GCC countries in the middle-east. Single ethnicity, single religion, single culture, single language, and everything else is same but five or six different homelands/countries.

            Sri Lankan Tamils (better known as Eela Tamils) had and still have a clearly defined (Tamil speaking) territory, their historic habitat in the North & East of Sri Lanka as their traditional homeland (Tamil Eelam) where they lived and defended for several centuries. The Tamils are the sole occupants (natives) of both N&E Sri Lanka (Tamil Eelam) and South India (Tamil Nadu) when the colonials left. Just like the Arab nation has several countries in the middle-east, the Tamil Nation had several countries (Chola Nadu, Pandya Nadu, Chera Nadu and Eelam) in India and Sri Lanka and still have two regions/states in South Asia (Tamil Eelam and Tamil Nadu). Tamil Nadu belongs (Homeland) to the Tamils of India and Tamil Eelam belongs (Homeland) to the Tamils of Sri Lanka.

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              Factually wrong. Tamils never defended North and East from invaders. It was the Sinhalese kings that did because the entire island was their domain.

              If Eelam was an ancient country, why didn’t Cholas never mentioned in when they invaded Sri Lanka back in 12th century?

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                “It was the Sinhalese kings that did because the entire island was their domain.”

                Who told you they are Sinhalese kings? Where is it said that they were Sinhalese kings? If they were Buddhist, you think by default they were Sinhalese? It can be Pandya king against Chola king. They both ruled Lanka.

                In the 9th century AD, under Rajaraja Chola and his son Rajendra Chola, Sri Lanka became one of the nine provinces of the Chola Empire and was called Eelam Mandalam.

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                  Well Mahavansa says so for starters. It can be taken accurate as because it was written around 5th century BC for the first time and then updated time to time under the patronage of several kings. It can be taken as an evidence.

                  If you deny. Then please come up with a valid reason.

                  Second of all. Cholas called this island Mummadi Chola Mandalam. Not Eelam Mandalam. That is your megalomaniacal creation.

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                Shenali

                “Tamils never defended North and East from invaders. “

                Last time it was the psychopath VP who defended not only the North East but the entire island from invading Hindian forces while the entire Sinhala/Buddhist armed forces were hiding behind their women folks and VP’s bum.

                You should pull your head from wherever it is now if you want to learn about the true history of this island, don’t let HLD M’s ass cover your face.

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      See this man’s plight. He has to use the name of a clan in Tamil Nadu to show any pride of Tamil. If Tamils had a 2000+ years of history even before Sinhalese, how can you have nothing to use even as a profile name?
      This is what we are talking about. You guys are living a lie.

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    When wigneswaran says that sinhala perception should be understood. He says, two daughter-in laws are nobodies. their father is nothing.

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    MY guess is Mr. wigneswaran had written this story when he was smoking kerala ganja brought by criminal gangs of former LTTE cadres.. His talk is certainly good for sudda fellows as they are just politicians looking for block votes and expenses for overseas Travel comes from LTTE tamils stolen from credit cards, prostitution of low caste Tamil women, drug transport and other crimes,. Now, LTTE wealth in europe released we may see more of these.

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    VIGNESHWARAN AIYYA…………..I Think Now Because Of These Bogus History Make Up Now We Should Not Waste Our Time Just Arguing As All Facts And Figures Are Recorded Of Sinhale History All Patriotic Citizens Should Get Together And Bring The SINHALE Name And The Royal Sinhale Lion Flag Back …………….This Shows Well When The Heirs Of A Country Do Not Talk About Their Heritage And Cultural Rights THe YAkshayos ,Perethayos And Kumbandayoos are Dancing The Devil And Bring Bogus Claims To Grab The Country ……….But What Is more Pathetic To Note Is That Educate People Like Vigneshwaran misleading a part of the citizens of this country to a big danger ….Where These citizens are the very part who suffered a lot during the Past Thirty Years….They were Just Breathing Fresh Air These EVIL Elements Are High Up Trying To Destroy Their Lives Which Will Set Fire To Our whole Country

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      PAtriotic citizen you are right. Even Maithriapal Sirisena does not seem to be the good choice. As their only wish is to survive and bring his children to where ever possible and CBK’s son to Gampaha (the son who was ashmed of Sri lanka). Now, Sri lanka need good leaders. Not any of these con-mens.

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    @Jim Softy

    I you are talking about homelands most of the so called Sinhalese today do originate from Southern Indian groups such as Tamils, Telegus, malayalis with a large minority coming from Bengal. So if the Tamils have to go back to the homeland so should you and This is coming from a Sinhalese. Also even if you do say that Sinhalese are desceded from Bengalis remember that most Bengalis are of mongoloid and dravidian stock. So either way most of the Sinhalese are of dravidian stock.

    Also if you are talking about the treatment of untouchables if I am correct it is Bihar that ranks the worst. Why don’t you talk about them??

    Second of all if you are talking about Malayalis I am not suprised that many people in Tamilnadu dislike them. They are the sort of people who beg people of other states to give them a job and then once they get there they start bragging about how intelligent they are. Also these Malayalis are the ultimate hypocrites they refuse to do manual labour in India and they show off their big houses and when you ask them how did they get the money they will say that they worked in the middle east doing the same menial labour jobs that they refuse to do India.

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      Stupid Lankan: If Sinhala people orignated recently from South Indian Tamils , why you dumbs ask separate state in Sri lanka. Why don’t you shut up and live it. Is it because free real estate or in South India you peole simply neglected dalits ?

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    Either you don’t need to prove that a population has a 2000 year history to give them federalism. For example Both the English and French Canadians have been in that country for barely 500 years. But after their civil war the french Canadians were given a federal region to govern by themselves.

    Also before you guys start ranting about your ancient civillisations. Well why do you guys from ancient civillisations(Both Sinhalese and Tamils) migrate to countries with less ancient civillisations and do jobs which you are overqualified to do. surely if your so called ancient civillisation was this great why are you so desperate to come to these developed nations!!!

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      Lankan: If you are now , and has forgotten everything, Tamils also swam or cme by boats to Sri lanka because it was greener pasture for them than living in rotten Tamilnadu. That is why Tamils trace their geneology to South India. .

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      Both British and Canadian settlers arrived on land inhabited by primitive natives. Therefore the modern civilization was built in the Canadian lands by the modern invaders of British and French origin. That’s the reason for granting both French and Brits the federal system. It has nothing to do with their existence.

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    @Jim Softy

    while I disagree with most of your points I do agree with you on the point that the Tamil leaders have relied on the whites too much. Its almost as if they look up to them. I mean the Europeans used the Tamils as cheap labour in the plantations but they still think that the Europeans were good to them.

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    No evidence. Totally fabricated history. A gross error. Mined creation. Never realisable dream. If federalism is for being united why cannot be united under current constitution. The most significant question how much of his ideological concepts have crept for the verdicts he made while was a judge. All his judgements must be reinvestigated. He must be penaliesed for that. Liar.

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    It seems we need a first class museum of history with historical evidences in Jaffna to educate younger generation and visitors to Jaffna to educate the true history of Tamils in SL.

    It can be privately funded by Tamil diaspora because sooner than later foreign born Tamils with SL roots are going to visit to SL on regular basis like younger generation of Jews visit to Israel. This Tamil history museum may also help independent thinkers to figure out the true history of Tamils in SL.

    It may also help some arts graduates and many others to get (cultural) tourism related jobs in Jaffna.

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    The story of manimekala is at least 500 years before Mahavamsa. There are similarities in both stories. The story is telling about the buddhist monks flying in the sky. Some of her parts resemble Sangamitta. They both had landed in near by area. (In fact Manimekala landed in Nainativu; but Sangamitta is unsure but around that area). Tamil Nadu has popular dams for more than 2000 years. Ajanta art work is similar to Sigiriya works. These are with Pottu and Hindu culture. The Northern Buddhist temples are very similar to the Southern temple. The only way of anything coming from India is highly likely from Tamil Nadu only. There was king named Ukkira Senan in Tamil nadu. Tharmasenan is Thirunavukkarasar name. Anything else said in the Mahavamsa is created.

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      Mahavamsa comic book black out Manimekalai ( story about a Tamil Buddhist nun written by a Tamil Buddhist monk )which clearly tell about NAINAATHEEVU
      Mohavamsa is a cooked up story book with fabricated details.
      Cheers

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    Sinhala Caste system is similar to Jaffna system. There is no Brahmin dominance. Brahmins dominance culture came to Tamil nadu only after Rajaraja Cholan brought 3000 brahmins from North. Before that they were treated as only educated people. Sinhalese are still maintaining the original Tamil Nadu caste system. There is no North Indian Brahminical system at all. That is telling the Sinhalese are better original Tamil Nadu people than the current Northern-Eastern Tamils.

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    History Museum Project? Best Place To Have This Project Is AFRICA Where The Tamils Have Been Said To Have Originated……………..How Could You Set Up History Museum Project In An Alien Country…….FOR The Group Of People That Have Been Imported To Jaffna Penisular From Malabar By The British In The 19th Century…….The Foreign Born Tamils Alias LTTE Die-Ass-Poras Kids are already Aware Of The Bogus History Their Ancestors Have Created To Get Out Of The Country To Get Visas To Settle down In Those Countries……………..They Will Also Find Out That They Are Traitors To Their Mother Country As They Have Been All Telling Made up Bogus Stories Get Visas,Most Of Them Being Hindus Have Been Hiding Behind The Roman Catholic Church To Support Their Bogus Causes,………..They will Also Find Out How Their Ancestors The LTTE Collected Funds From Them To KILL THEIR own People In Their Mother Country …………….AND also they will ultimately Find Out That The Island Nation Of SINHALE is A Archaeological Museum ……….When You Take The Country As A Whole………. Where Their Ancestors Brutal LTTE With The Foreign Powers And The Roman Catholic Church Had Destroyed And Again KEEP Pumping Poison To The Future Generation……AND Your Generations Would Get Their CURSES And Better Get Ready And Wait To Built Up A Place For All of You To—- Rest In Peace—— As Heaven And the Hell Too Will Be Closed as it will not want to accomodate you all

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    If you deserve a HOMELAND in the Northern and Eastern Province (these borders need to be negotiated)

    THEN

    the Sinhala people deserve a HOMELAND.

    By the way there are NO INDIAN Tamils in Sri Lanka. Those individuals who are born to people who are themselves born in Sri Lanka of Tamil Ethnicity are Sri Lankan Tamil.

    This 2 state solution needs to take into consideration of this fact.

    It is good that finally ALL this comes out.

    Please Also refer to Prof.Indrapalan book regarding origin of Tamils in Sri Lanka.

    Tamils originated in Tamil Nadu and moved back and forth due to various invasions and peaceful migrations……

    WE HAVE TO FIND A SOLUTION BEFORE ANOTHER ROUND OF VIOLENCE ERUPTS FOR NO REASON,,,,,,,,,,,,

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      Sinhalese extremists love to quote Prof. Indrapala but Prof. Indrapala himself has stated many of his old theories about the Sinhalese and Eelam Tamils are not correct and now he has revised his opinion after new evidence has arrived regarding the real origin of most Sinhalese like DNA and the antiquity of the Eelam Tamils . This like some one still quoting that the earth is flat.

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    Yes Mr.Vigneshwaran………………From What You Are Uttering We See The Very Urgent Necessity Of The Peoples’ Attention Of This Country To Look Deep In to The Cultural Heritage Of The Country…….SINHALE….. The So Called Sri Lanka Which Was Illegally Named By Colvin R De Silva And That Foolish Woman Sirimao Bandaranayeke Highlighting Their Party Name Sri Lanka Freedom Party……….So It Would Be High Time That We Think Of Getting Back To The ORIGINAL Name Of This Country SINHALE…………Where we Have All The Rights To to get back to……….We See Under these Columns SomE People Are suggesting To Built Up History Museums for Jaffna Tamils Who Have Been Brought To This Country By The British From Malabar In The 19th Century To Cultivate Tobbaco …….Unless otherwise We Get Back To The ORIGINAL name SINHALE And Get Back Our real Identity ……………we will have to look up and wait until you create Bogus Histories to Get This Country In -To Another Dark ERA

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    There were no Tamils but Malabar slaves brought in by the ‘Whites’ to do their chores as Sinhalese refused to be enslaved by the barbaric Whites. After their main works finished the White invaders planted these people in Jaffna who then assumed an identity with the help of American missionaries who taught them English, by setting up Catholic/Christian schools. That’s when history began for Tamils in Sri Lanka !

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      Gos

      According to all the historical records available, the Tamil/Malabar slaves were settled in the South (not North) for cinnamon and coconut cultivation. Today they have all become Sinhala-Buddhists, and that is how the Sinhalese became a majority in Sri Lanka. Tens of thousands of low caste (Dalit) slaves from South India (Tamil/Malabar) were settled in the South of Sri Lanka by the Portuguese and Dutch who got converted to Buddhism and became Sinhalese.

      If you read the book “The World’s Oldest Trade”: Dutch Slavery and Slave Trade in the Indian Ocean in the Seventeenth Century” you will see that the Dutch settled tens of thousands of them in the South from Colombo to Galle.

      Professor K.M. de Silva in his book `A History of Sri Lanka`, refers to the migration of the Karawe, Salagama, and Durawe castes from Southern India to Sri Lanka between the 14th and 17th centuries AD.

      Professor of Anthropology Gananath Obeyesekere (in his book “Buddhism, Ethnicity, and Identity,”) states that “viewed in long term historical perspective Sinhalas have been for the most part South Indian migrants who have been sasanized (converted to Buddhism)”

      Dr. Paul E. Pieris has published extracts from the Portuguese tombo which gives the original names of the present day Sinhalese with Portuguese surnames before their conversion to Christianity and Buddhism. Dr. Pieris states that the names deserve special attention, even though the majority appear to have been converted and adopted Portuguese Surnames names, their native names were also mentioned among them and they all appear to be recent South Indian Tamil/Malabar names.

      There is enough of evidence to prove that the Sinhalese became a majority only after assimilating with the South Indian who were brought by the Portuguese and the Dutch.

      Finally, even the latest genetic studies (DNA tests) have proved it beyond any doubt that the Sinhalese are having 70% South Indian (Tamil & Malabar) genes.

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      Yes your Sinhalese Karwa Salagama Durawa and Hunu ancestors all low caste Tamils from south India imported by the Portuguese and Dutch to do lots menial work , Just like your Shenals and Nalin Silva’s ancestors

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        You Stupid Tmils are just like the shamless ex-supreme court judge. He has two sinhala daughter in laws. Now only he talks about sinhala perception. I can imagine their life among caste conscious tamils. say, all the sinhala castes are former Tamils. IF so why you are fughting with them.

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        @Rohan

        Well said. Many thats why shenals face looks like charcoal!!!

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