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By Rajan Hoole

Dr. Rajan Hoole

Dr. Rajan Hoole

Antecedents Of July 1983 & The Foundations Of Impunity – Part IV

In the preceding section we found it necessary to place clearly some of the basic facts concerning the final day of the IATR (International Association for Tamil Research) conference in Jaffna. This is because among Tamils their partial knowledge of events has over time become overlaid by biases and wrong information derived from others. The question whether Janarthanan was in Jaffna legally or illegally would elicit several contradictory answers. Writing about the incident by talking to contemporary witnesses soon becomes a nightmare. In contrast, there are the police records and magistrate’s inquest records, which were largely influenced by police versions, as will be seen below. Too often, these tend to become authentic history. The State that is anti-Tamil in its ideology and articulation continually uses its apparatus to record a history in service of its ideology.

Then there is also the Tamil nationalist version of history that is also very powerful in a destructive way, although the academic historian will readily have problems with its authenticity. The LTTE bears ample testimony to this power. To the Tamil nationalists, the police action at the IATR conference which resulted in 7 deaths became the ultimate expression of the malignancy of the State which led to the adoption in May 1976 of the goal of separation as the only viable option for the Tamil speaking People. It resulted in Sansoni writing the official history of the incident.

Fortunately, however, upon the government of Mrs. Bandaranaike rejecting the request for a commission of inquiry, some in Jaffna had the presence of mind to appoint an unofficial citizens’ commission comprising retired supreme court judges O.L. de Kretzer and V. Manickavasagar, along with Bishop Kulandran. Several copies of the report were printed and circulated, but are indeed rare documents today. Many valuable historical materials pertaining to the Tamils were destroyed with the burning of the Jaffna Public Library by the Police in 1981, the communal violence of July 1983, the civil war and during the forced exodus from Valikamam in 1995.

We were fortunate to receive a copy of the de Kretzer Commission Report from Mr. George Gnanamuttu, a former deputy commissioner of labour, who is now aged 90. Comparing its findings with Sansoni’s throws some light on judicial mores in Sri Lanka and how political power influences even sound persons, when it comes to making official history.

Mr. O.L. de Kretzer, a member of the Burgher community, was a notably independent judge. Mr. M. C. Sansoni, also a Burgher, rose to the highest judicial position of chief justice. Following the communal violence of August/ September 1977, Jayewardene (then prime minister) appointed Sansoni to a one-man commission of inquiry on 9th November 1977 to go into the violence.

The Commission commenced sittings on 8 Feb.1978 and wound up on 10 Dec.1979, having heard witnesses in Jaffna, Anuradhapura, Colombo, Kandy and Trincomalee. The evidence on record is quite exhaustive. The final report was submitted to President Jayewardene on 22 July1980 and published as a sessional paper on 4 Nov.1980.

For a report on the wide-ranging and traumatic communal violence in which Tamils, particularly Hill Country or Plantation Tamils, were the main victims, its reception was curious. The following extract from a letter by “Observer” in The Sunday Observer of 8 May1994 is typical of the welcome it received from the Sinhalese intelligentsia:

“ The one man Commission Report headed by Mr. M.C. Sansoni [sic], a former Chief Justice and member of the Burther community, highlighted the advocacy by the late Mr. A.
Amirthalingam and the TULF, of armed violence as the means of to achieve the goal of Eelam, as the principal cause for the outbreak of ethnic rioting and civil disorder.

“The investigation and analysis of each incident of communal violence contained in the Report provide[s] a good insight into the manner in which communal tensions were deliberately raised by Tamil politicians hell bent on directing the embittered and disgruntled Tamil youth into committing planned violence against the State and the Sinhalese people ….

“The Sansoni Commission Report makes valuable reading for anyone interested in understanding the catalytic factors which led to ethnic unrest in the late seventies and the early eighties.

“Yet, inspite of its indisputable value as an important and impartial document tracing the contributory role of Tamil politicians in unleashing ethnic violence in Sri Lanka, the Report remains virtually inaccessible except to a few…

“The interpretation of events in contemporary Sri Lankan history especially on the incidents leading to the riots in July 1983, could be more effectively discharged if one were to have access to the objectively written Sansoni Commission Report…..”

Note the reference to the Report as a historical record. This assessment is an irony when one looks into the terms of reference, which may be summarised as:

(1) To ascertain the circumstances and causes that led to, and particulars of, the incidents which took place in the island between the 13th day of August 1977 and the 15th day September 1977;

(2) whether any person or body of persons or organisation etc. were in any way the cause of the violence; and

(3) to recommend such measures as may be necessary for rehabilitation, public safety and prevention of a recurrence.

In the assessment of “Observer” above, the Sansoni Report explains not only the communal violence of 1977, but also that of July 1983. The main reason for the 1977 violence, it appears, was the provocation of the Tamil leaders wanting a separate state, and accordingly the same held good for the violence of July 1983. The reason for the second outbreak in 1983 is evidently that the first measure for prevention advocated in the Report – the revoking of the demand for separation – was not heeded!

Thus among that broad segment of the Sinhalese elite who did not want to take any responsibility for the communal violence, the Sansoni Report became a classic. Sections of it kept appearing in the Press and other writings with enthusiastic commendations as proof of Tamil villainy. But that was also to concede enormous powers to an unarmed political party – the TULF – and to admit that the huge state security apparatus was helpless against a few lawyers in politics.

A more open-minded reader would feel uncomfortable from the very first page of the report. It was the state security apparatus that was on trial for its ineffectiveness before and during the communal violence, and there were reasonable grounds for charges of culpability against sections of this apparatus. The first witness cited is Mr. W.T. Jayasinghe, former secretary for defence and foreign affairs from July 1972 to July 1977. One is then treated, despite the terms of reference, to a series of police reports and testimony from police witnesses concerning the incipient Tamil militant movement, and its connections (mostly indirect) with the TULF leadership.

The TULF’s role in history needs no deep analysis. As Tamils we could get angry about the TULF’s dangerous politics of high rhetoric without building any structures where the people could participate and determine their future. It led to tragedy for which the Southeren polity was primarily responsible.

On the other hand the TULF’s politics should come as no surprise in a parliamentary party of mostly career lawyers representing a minority denied any real power over its destiny, and experiencing repeated humiliation. In the game of vote catching, rhetoric became a substitute for their inability to offer any real relief, and the party became tangled up in its effects. Their inability to launch a non-violent struggle to which they were publicly committed, found them trying to ride the incipient militant movement in order to retain their influence. Taken in isolation it is easily explained and is in some ways trivial. It is more relevant, when it is raised by those who want to question the politics of their own community.

The more interesting story, from the point of the whole country, and the needs of national reconciliation and prevention of communal violence, is not to view Tamil politics in isolation, but rather how it developed in an engagement with the obduracy and purblindness of the Southern polity. Producing reams of evidence to show, as Sansoni has done to the general applause, that the TULF leaders are not genuine Gandhians, adds nothing to the story.

By contrast, those who have real power do not need rhetoric. They can just do things, how- ever harmful to another community. Their means could moreover have the appearance of being administratively and legally correct. When they use rhetoric, it is a sign of weakness – as with the Jayewardene government during the run-up to the July 1983 violence and after.

After looking into police records of what was going on in the North, Sansoni reaches a strong conclusion at the end of Chapter 1 (p. 54), even before looking at the violence of August 1977 that was central to his mandate:

“So far as the population of the whole island is concerned, the claim of a separate state is unpopular and will be resisted by the majority community… It must be remembered that violence or the advocacy of it begets violence, and it is one lesson which the disturbances of August and September 1977 should have taught us all”.

This covers the main message of the Report, which is also reflected in Chapter VI in his first recommendation: – viz. the communal violence was retaliation for a section of the Tamil leader- ship asking for a separate state and fostering a militant movement. It has two elementary flaws. First, although the bulk of the victims were Hill- country Tamils, their leadership under Mr. S. Thondaman had rejected separatism. Second, the communal violence in 1958 took place de- spite the fact that there was hardly a hint of vio- lence on the part of the Tamils or their leader- ship. In examining events, Sansoni was careful, even where the facts demanded it, to avoid any implication that would point to serious culpa- bility on the part of the State, so as to invalidate the conclusion quoted above.

*To be continued..

*From Rajan Hoole‘s “Sri Lanka: Arrogance of Power – Myth, Decadence and Murder”. Thanks to Rajan for giving us permission to republish. To read earlier parts click here

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    HOOLE BROTHERS are well known for their treacherous conduct during the war years. I believe these chaps were senior to me at St’ Johns college Jaffna. It is plainly stupid to say that it is because the Tulf wanted to fight for Eelam the Sinhalese turned on the Tamils. This does not explain how the sinhalese formd a pan sinhala govt in 1933? and the 1958 and 1961 anti- Tamil riots. Hoole is missing the point like MC Sansoni here which came first the chicken or the egg? Sinhala racist violence against the Tamils brought about the Tamil violence against the Sinhala state.

    The Tamils only resorted to violence as a last resort when their non violent means to achieve parity with the Sinhalese failed. Sansoni like most of the members of the Burgher community is biased against the Tamils as they primarily lived among the sinhalese in Srilanka. Hoole is not a burger but a Tamil traitor who masquerades under a dubious european name .

    Sansoni was a friend of Jeyawardenes . Fortunately he lived most of his life at a time when Pirabakaran was not in the political scene of Ceylon otherwise he would have claimed his scalp for his anti – Tamil rhetoric.

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      Rajan Hoole is a Tamilized Sinhalese.

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        jim softy dimwit

        “Rajan Hoole is a Tamilized Sinhalese.”

        Rajan Hoole maybe a Tamilized Sinhalese from a Sinhalised Tamil gene.

        On the other hand you are a Sinhala/Buddhised Tamil from South India. Do you know when did your ancestors come to this island?

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          Dumb Native veddo:

          On the other hand you are a Sinhala/Buddhised Tamil from South India. Do you know when did your ancestors come to this island?

          first learn english.

          what is buddhised Tamil ?

          Majority south Indians even during the Buddha’s time wanted to remain Jains. Go to andrapradesh and see.

          Toiletnadu is only after 1964.

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            jim softy dimwit

            You typed:

            “Toiletnadu is only after 1964.”

            I Wrote:

            “you are a Sinhala/Buddhised Tamil from South India.”

            You need not only good glasses but also a brain.

            You typed:

            “what is buddhised Tamil ?”

            You also typed:

            “Rajan Hoole is a Tamilized Sinhalese.”

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            “Majority south Indians even during the Buddha’s time wanted to remain Jains. Go to andrapradesh and see.”

            Who is this “Buddha God” that you speak about?? There is no mother(Maya Devi) there is no father (UNESCO findings in National Geographic and Japanese paid excavations- just tree worshipers) May be in Pakistan and pakistan says no and bombs the Sh*t of all buddha.

            But we all know the civil servant Tao/Dao of the same period.

            Jim the Dim wit you are immigrant Muslim so go back to Pakistan with izeth on a camel and don’t forget your tin.

            Julia Shaw, a lecturer in South Asian archaeology at University College London, called the claims for a wooden railing surrounding a possible tree shrine convincing but speculative.She was cautious about the oldest Buddhist shrine claim.
            “The worship of trees, often at simple altars, was a ubiquitous feature of ancient Indian religions, and given the degree of overlap between Buddhist ritual and pre-existing traditions, it is also possible that what is being described represents an older tree shrine quite disconnected from the worship of the historical Buddha,” Shaw says.

            http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/11/131125-buddha-birth-nepal-archaeology-science-lumbini-religion-history/

            Even Rinpoche’s believe this.

            “Still, it does indeed present some new insights into the archaeology of Indian ritual in general,” she adds.

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      Old Johnian states:
      ” It is plainly stupid to say that it is because the Tulf wanted to fight for Eelam the Sinhalese turned on the Tamils. This does not explain how the sinhalese formd a pan sinhala govt in 1933? and the 1958 and 1961 anti- Tamil riots”.

      QUESTION:
      1. Did not Tamil leaders’ objections to Universal Adult Franchise, and the Tamil Congress calls for 50:50 Representation (rejected by both Donoughmore and Soulbury Constitutions which recognized the discriminatory assertions in communal-based representation) play a part, and precede ANY Sinhala Maha Sabha moves?

      2. Have not the Sinhala governments/people always acted in REACTION to Tamil political moves towards exclusivity, and does that not continue even to this day, so that the Sinhalas have hardly been the initiators?

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      Dear Old Johnian,

      I presume that I must think of you as a Tamil. I don’t think of all Tamil people as bad.

      Similarly, how can you generalize about all Hooles? I believe that there are many. Some studied elsewhere.

      In which year did you set your O Level examination? Let me, a stranger to your community, try to work out who is who.

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    Sansoni was far keener to please and protect his friend and school-mate JRJ than in the search of the cause of the 1977 pogrom. As a man of learning and jurist, he should have known organised Sinhalese mobs lead by political thugs and Buddhist priests unleashed brutal attacks on unarmed Tamils island wide in 1958, sporadically in 1961 and several times in between to 1977. That ism long before Separate State entered our political lexicon. Amirthalingam and colleagues were perfectly right in the implicit No-Confidence of Sansoni and his discredited Report. The Lankan Tamil nation will remember Sansoni’s name with contempt.

    Backlash

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      Backlash,
      “”Sansoni was far keener to please and protect his friend and school-mate JRJ than in the search of the cause of the 1977 pogrom.””

      Not true, Even today in the UK judges/jury are not allowed to listen to past history or let media judgement influence but listen to the issue at hand. Sansoni was such a man then.

      https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/the-federal-party-gain-loss-of-the-moral-high-ground/
      Mr. Gajen Ponnambalam to Dr. Rajan Hoole Can you kindly elaborate on how GG did a “volte-face” and “ditched” the Up Country Tamils?
      Dr. Rajan Hoole : Response hard to find Hansard. (cheeky crusader)

      He is another government servant writing hearsay to suit his `faith` and making it look as if written by authority. He must be thinking he is correcting a university exam paper.

      I have met Sansoni at his Colombo 7 cherry tree home. I have been at Madras after the Chilli and Onion issue (know the MGR& Karu links) and at London early 70’s with the G. Pathmanathan cricket issue and at the W forest. I was at Colombo July 83 went round from borella that night to kirulapone where nadesan was Inspector – to almost all sectors of colombo- in the shadows just observing like most local folk anywhere because I had already seen bigger issues at Delhi.
      The original crusaders are trying to cover their tracks while some have died of natural causes.
      The citizenship issue was the hallmark where Jaffna villagers showed their stupid superiority complex and opened the doors for all Tamil’s in the island to be attacked. There is no going back, the more folk press the more you would be suppressed. It is world view and will not change. Pick up guns again then end up like red Indians in camps drunk.

      Too many lies blaming the clean high class will only make it worse for a low down village as it is at present. Is this the Hoole Bros vision??

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        Z
        Do you seriously believe that “Even today in the UK judges/jury are not allowed to listen to past history or let media judgement influence but listen to the issue at hand.”
        Are they prevented from reading newspapers or watching television or talking on issues with implications for the case before them?
        Miscarriage of justice is as much accidental as it is intentional.
        I well remember how a British judge left Jeffrey Archer off the hook (in a case involving a ‘hooker’ as witness).

        Personal and political pressures have existed all along. I do not know Sansoni well enough to comment on his integrity. But I do not rule out the role of prejudice and personal loyalty. I agree that it is unfair to attribute specific motives without evidence.

        I also do not understand how “The citizenship issue was the hallmark where Jaffna villagers showed their stupid superiority complex and opened the doors for all Tamil’s in the island to be attacked.”
        That was still he age of elitist politics and the Jaffna Tamils did not vote for the ACTC in 1947 for it to let down the Hill Country Tamils in 1948-49.

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          Seee,
          Sansoni was suspicious of Jaffna doings like most long standing (portuguese era and before) Jaffna folk living at Colombo.- secretive secretive. while sinhala sat under umbrella at the beach and where did JT sit palmyrah tree;)))) He was not racially tuned.
          Jeffery Archer was a racist but he got away because the time was not right and was sentenced subsequently for some other reason. When your guilt is known they do you. One sensational case JR did a Tamil who was very close to him (sorry I cannot disclose it because I know them all) because the Tamil was not honest about it (he told me that)
          Now the new report is going to do T. bLiar await I haven’t seen it but heard it on BBC yesterday.
          Blackman screaming racist and a Lord (Tory) went to jail for racism but was convicted for just stating the wrong rent and claiming while many were pardoned. See your own Raj Rajaratnam retaining the winning lawyer and the judge who first ruled goes back into profession says evidence was taken unlawfully yet the new sitting judge convicts him for 19 later to 11. Nothing mysterious- My pop use to count up to 10 mistakes and only then canned me so before that I stop.
          Truth always finds its way like water.
          The Sinhalese and Tamils joined hands to get rid of the upcountry Tamil’s so that their vote base would be better. Please ask Native Veddha for more details as he has been clear on that count.
          cervantes.

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            Zorro
            Thanks.
            What shocked many a reader of newspapers in the case of Jeff Archer was the explanation given by the judge for rejecting crucial evidence.
            The woman witness said JA’s back was spotty. The wife said that it was as smooth as the bottom of a baby.
            The judge took the wife’s word. It would have been simple for someone to physically check JA’s back– The judge could not have been that stupid.

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              welcome sekara ,
              “”The judge could not have been that stupid. “
              Even as a judge you should not lose your sense of humour but be sensitive!
              The English are very much like the monkey curious and creative have a great sense of humour are sensitive with a tight upper lip and I class them as men of wisdom that others can’t match. How else could they have come about with all these inventions, sports and many things that we come across in our daily lives? They don’t nit-pick on everything because humans are not perfect like robots.- there was no necessity to react to a figure of speech by his wife but take it positively. They are very much for the underdog.
              Do you know most working class British whites have been convicted for various offences while teenager. Remember Ceylon had boy’s town. Life is an experience by itself so they let the constitution develop as they prod along – the unindexed constitution.

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              “The woman witness said JA’s back was spotty. “
              don’t you know many would have seen an englishman’s/woman’s bum…what do the kangaroos do when the royalty visit??

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            Zorro
            Your brain is zero
            What are you blabbing incoherently .
            strict to one item at a time, the way you are writing looks like you are under the influence of drug—cocaine!! or ganja!!

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              leonman,

              “looks like you are under the influence of drug—cocaine!! or ganja!!

              go tickle yourself in the middle then see which side smiles!

              lying village lout, grandma says;

              if you have nothing to say don’t say it!

              zorro.

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          Z
          Thanks for agreeing on my comments.
          I am sure that you know the reason that the judge gave for rejecting the testimony of the key witness– who was not a ‘woman of good conduct’.

          The Sinhalese and Tamils did not quite join hands against Hill Country Tamils.
          The entire Left, all Sinhalese, (18 out of 102 MPs) voted against the 1948 Act. There were four other Sinhalese, including DA Rajapaksa I think, who voted against. Not many Tamils could have voted for.
          The treachery was in GGP joining the UNP regime soon after.
          It was not an issue that was much discussed in public.
          It was a conspiracy hatched by DSS & Co.

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            Sekara,
            thks too.
            “The treachery was in GGP joining the UNP regime soon after.”

            It was a gentleman joining the winner as partner to resolve the issues.Like hamlet to be or not to be! Grapple thy friends with hoofs of steel…
            In opposition nothing gets resolved there- only mud slinging.

            treachery?? whose but the stupid people in opposition.
            Nobel laureate Venki Ramakrishnan President of the Royal Society.
            Faced the same from general India public when he accepted the post.
            But the great man he is; undauntedly supporting India to perform in subjects that mean business than mere engg doc lawyer (same as lankawe)
            Who makes the medicine the doctor or Biomedicin?
            Its got to be the field and knower of the field than clueless user.

            ‘woman of good conduct’.- Raj’s case was same FBI planting a woman who was jailed for insider and on payroll as worker for Raj .
            FBI has played this dirty game set a thief to catch a thief to infinity unabashed and unfairly. how many years Goel and the rest get – they are out and laughing. All because he did not hand over $100 million to Goat and Old man PM 100- they met him together.. So he became easy prey. mafia art.

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          “I well remember how a British judge left Jeffrey Archer off the hook (in a case involving a ‘hooker’ as witness).”

          Nice one Sekara!

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    An interesting account of the advent , results and demise of the Vattukotai result ion, and possibilities and problems ahead. A time for introspection for the Sinhala and Tamil political leaderships. A moment that may not come back. I hope MR will be large enough not to be the spoil sport and redeem his role in history.

    Further, I gave evidence to the Sansoni Commission on my experiences during the 1977 riots at Perdeniya, where I highlighted the insubordination of the Sinhala police officers and the pathetic plight of SSP Shanmugam at the Kandy police station. He was the man who led the police to withstand the attack the JVP mounted on Kandy!

    Dr.RN

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    Old Johnian states:
    ” It is plainly stupid to say that it is because the Tulf wanted to fight for Eelam the Sinhalese turned on the Tamils. This does not explain how the sinhalese formd a pan sinhala govt in 1933? and the 1958 and 1961 anti- Tamil riots”.

    QUESTION:
    1. Did not Tamil leaders’ objections to Universal Adult Franchise, and the Tamil Congress calls for 50:50 Representation (rejected by both Donoughmore and Soulbury Constitutions which recognized the discriminatory assertions in communal-based representation) play a part, and precede ANY Sinhala Maha Sabha moves?

    2. Have not the Sinhala governments/people always acted in REACTION to Tamil political moves towards exclusivity, and does that not continue even to this day, so that the Sinhalas have hardly been the initiators?

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    old johnian.

    Your line….
    Sansoni like most of the members of the Burgher community is biased against the Tamils as they primarily lived among the Sinhalese in Srilanka…..

    One Swallow[Sansoni] does not make a Summer!
    Besides,O.L.De.Kretzer,also a Burgher was indeed an Independent Judge; He amply proved this in his Judgement on the Kodeeswaran case.In fact the Privy Council endorsed District Judge Kretzers original judgement.

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    Here is the link that relates to what I have written in the first paragraph and apparently forgot to paste:

    http://www.ceylontoday.lk/columns20160321CT20170330.php?id=202

    Dr.RN

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    “Second, the communal violence in 1958 took place de-spite the fact that there was hardly a hint of vio-lence on the part of the Tamil’s or their leadership”

    This is not correct according to a Sinhala family lived in Jaffna in 1958 that I know very closely. According to them Tamil mobs started attacking Sinhala people and this family had a narrow escape with the help of the church. Church helped them because they were Christians. In 1958, Tamils started racial violence and Sinhalese in the south reacted to that.

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      I heard the first Racial violence was in 1933 when GG Ponnambalam, at Gampola infront of Tamils, exclaimed that Sinhala people were dumb and Tamils were the intelligent group that was why they all were prominent in govt positions

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        “”This is not correct according to a Sinhala family lived in Jaffna in 1958 “

        Hearsay evidence is unacceptable in any court of law`- If you try to evade international law then you are the nucleus of evil!
        You were not born but like Tsunami Hora you are dreaming!

        “1958 is the time, they painted Tar on Letter Sri on the vehicle number plates.”

        It was the time at Kotahena (Bloemendhal means where the slaves were brought in the netherlands) tamil priest was thrown into a tar barrel and set a light.

        Jim the dimwit from the southern village neither you nor your parents went to Jaffna because you were afraid of the unknown.

        24/7/366 Troll your post are generally from the temple at mahiyangana weed plantation.

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          Siva Sankaran Sarma,

          Learn to face the facts. My wife is from that family. She was born in Jaffna on 15 June 1947. Her birth certificate is in Tamil. Her father had a fiber-glass boat manufacturing industry in Jaffna which was burnt down by Tamils. They left Jaffna and never went back.

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            Satya means Truth;
            Asatya,means Lie.- thats your true self.

            “She was born in Jaffna on 15 June 1947. Her birth certificate is in Tamil. “
            “Her father had a fiber-glass boat manufacturing industry in Jaffna which was burnt down by Tamils. “

            Neil Marine was the first Fibre Glass at 26th mile post Kurana Katunayaka and as a teenager I have been there several times just watching the process- 1969 commenced

            Your dream Jaffna village performed it before him??
            I have been to keerimalai and the beach before 69 and never noticed any fibre boats made there.

            Go tell your boat story to konde bandepu vanduro at Mahiyanganaya

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              I am telling the truth. If you give me your address I will send a copy of the birth certificate to you. My wife passed away. If not, I could have given you all the details. I will get in touch with her brothers and get back to you.

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            Sathya

            The first ever fibreglass boat building venture in the North was started by Cey-Nor Development Foundation funded by NORGES GODTEMPLAR UNGDOMS
            FORBUND (NGU) – a Norwegian Non-Governmental Organization in late 1960s possibly in 1968.

            According to my Elders the boat builders were situated in Karainagar and relocated to Colombo.

            There used to be a public liar known in this forum as Ramu. He/she/it does not type anymore. You have started where he had left.

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              “According to my Elders the boat builders were situated in Karainagar and relocated to Colombo. “
              (Vikings and lanka).
              But at Mutawal they did not make boats just Big tuna fish was available for sale- i would never buy them as they were frozen. nothing like waiting for the fresh catch to come to hendala at 6:30 am.

              Neil was a former navy boy and they did beautiful drawings planed the timber etc
              where is our Donald G the merchant navy magnate.
              He gave up on CT when he found Ranil going into this limbo state

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      1958 is the time, they painted Tar on Letter Sri on the vehicle number plates.

      Tamils were all along greedy and racist.

      but, blame sinhala people.

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        jim softy dimwit

        “1958 is the time, they painted Tar on Letter Sri on the vehicle number plates.”

        Sir John Kotelawala wanted to apply tar on the backsides of undisciplined Buddhist monks.

        Did you stick two fingers up at him?

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      Sathya

      “In 1958, Tamils started racial violence and Sinhalese in the south reacted to that.”

      There was no riots in the South. Whatever happened in the south in 1958 it was family dispute among Tamils. Who said there was riots in the South?

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      The majority community in the country has exercised state power for, maybe a century. There are reasonable Sinhalese people who accept the need for us to make move towards reconciliation irrespective of world history seems to regard as the main trends.

      ” Native Vedda” has become my friend now, but I have to disagree with him on a minor point. I have looked up fiberglass in Wikipedia and I find that it was developed during the Second World War. So it is possible that “Sathya’s” family was indeed running a fiberglass boat yard in the 1950s in the Northern Province. “Siva Sankaran Sama” is looking for forensically acceptable evidence. Law Courts cannot solve all our problems. Why shouldn’t we tentatively accept Sathya’s statement?

      I think it’s best not to be in a hurry to contradict statements made by others. I’m making this comment because I see no racist overtones in Sathya’s statement.

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        Sinhala_Man

        “” Native Vedda” has become my friend now,”

        I am honoured.

        I am 99.9999999999% certain about what I wrote.

        The onus is on Sathya (Truth) to prove the veracity of his claim.

        My Elders told me once they also “heard” Sinhalese were killed in hundreds and were being sent to south in fish lorries in 1958.

        By the way, it usually took at lease 50 years to introduce new technology into this island.

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        “”“Siva Sankaran Sama” is looking for forensically acceptable evidence. Law Courts cannot solve all our problems. Why shouldn’t we tentatively accept Sathya’s statement? “”

        I had input of this too: ““She was born in Jaffna on 15 June 1947. Her birth certificate is in Tamil. ”
        Safety first!
        (she is sinhalese with tamil birth certificate) You know the Lankan ID- only tamils have in sinhala and tamil so shoot them even in the dark- the young villagers with 8th std who were allowed to hold foreign automatic weapons they never dreamt of.

        Love never has a problem when chickena and dancer (Sholay) Hema Malani Iyengar of Maratha Thanjavur marries Dutt a muslim of north because he saved her life and that is the true history of present day India and Maratha dynasty too.

        “Why shouldn’t we `tentatively` accept Sathya’s statement? “”

        It is not for me.I do not even have family baggage there but it is for you guys who love to live there.

        security first is a wonderful thing- even civil cases for 1inch property boundary takes 14 years there and people die too.

        I have happy neighbours of different cultures, education etc.and all is peaceful. I would not fight for an inch or 3 because its not for eating but present a know lie and ask me to accept is asking me to do the free monty would you do free monty?

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    Sri-Lanka has only descendants of illegal Tamil immigrants and Tamil coolies brought by Dutch and British masters this is why westerners sympathise and favour Tamils.for they are guilty conscious.

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      bernardkdasa ,

      Drinking the Kool-Aid??

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      bernardkdasa

      “Sri-Lanka has only descendants of illegal Tamil immigrants and Tamil coolies brought by Dutch and British masters”

      Are you saying until the illegal Tamils and coolies arrived, this island was a no man land, vacant, no human beings lived?

      Let me get this straight.

      Amazing!!!!

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    Examples of stories that will become sources for our future historians:

    Title of a story in the Daily Mirror today ( 23/05/2016),

    “FCID grills Thirukumarana Nadesan over Basil’s land “

    Another- refers to Nagalagam street , near the Kelani River in Colombo, as it has been for long in one instance and in another as Nagalagama street.

    This trend is unfolding in multiple fronts across the island and the government has to take action to prevent and reverse this trend.

    Dr.RN

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      Sri Lanka lost the cricket match to england yesterday because Lanka is good at book cricket and that is a good trend.
      cricket is a waste of time and even indians who now outsource are complaining about cricket and cinema. Variety is the stuff of life.

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    Did anyone in Australia watch ‘DNA Nation’ on SBS last Night, 22 May?

    That should provide a Rebuttal to all these Arguments about Ethnicity!

    According to DNA Evidence, We all originated in Africa, Specifically Tanzania.

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      Rationalist

      “According to DNA Evidence, We all originated in Africa, Specifically Tanzania.”

      This is more than twenty year old discovery.

      Did the documentary mention anything about Sinha Le or Kotty Le?

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        Native; Please watch this Documentary

        DNA Nation | Identity | SBS Documentary

        http://www.sbs.com.au/topics/sbs-explores-identity

        To celebrate new documentary series DNA Nation, SBS explores the topic of identity through genetics, cultural roots, shared passions, and individuality.

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          Rationalist

          Thanks.

          I will this weekend.

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          Rationalist

          “DNA Nation | Identity | SBS Documentary”

          Currently the service is unavailable outside Australia.

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    Native Vedda,
    “Did the documentary mention anything about Sinha Le or Kotty Le? “

    so many performance digits in the machine. The point is – are these digits stronger than the competitors’ digits?

    The English brought the cash crops which was feeding the west and the imported plantation workers and that includes most of the present day population in the country.(even today proof is 90% of remittances comes from middle east menial labour) You can say what you like we are aware of the war of golden balls (spice of aristocrats ; Caribbean has the most) and how it was fought. DNA with Bengali genes and north indian, pakistani arab izeth with mughal genes.

    Independence gave these monkeys hand grenades. Even today UK has many illegal workers (only country in the commonwealth and EU with no ID card)but they are allowed to work to suit the multinational menu and its part of the culture of piracy.

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