All Ceylon Jamiyyathul Ulama yesterday urged stores to sell halal meat only to Muslims, after protests by Sinhala Buddhist hardliners.
All Ceylon Jamiyyathul Ulama is the apex religious body of Islamic Theologians that provides religious and community leadership to the Sri Lankan Muslim Community who are 9.6% of the total population of the country.
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Kuberan / February 22, 2013
I am a Tamil who believes in cultural diversity and I value it. I want to every one to have the choice to buy Halal meat from Muslim shops — even though I am vegetarian..!
I think Lanka is great because of the diversity, so that when all the Sinhala kades are closed on Poya we can eat at the Muslim kade and vise versa when the Muslim Kades are closed on Friday’s..etc..
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Ben Hurling / February 22, 2013
What if I, as a Buddhist wants to buy a Halal product out of curiosity or want to treat my muslim friends to a meal.
Shop keeper is going to check my religion. How? Religion is a private matter. Getting your religion checked by a cashier sounds like a dubious practice. Does not fit a modern nation, really.
Those who want Halal should be able to buy it. It should be available to them. Only dictated by the market for Halal. Others should be free to walk away and chose something else.
I salute the patriotic, matured approach taken by ACJU anyway. They indeed handled a very heated situation calmly. And peacefully. This truly proves Sri Lankans can discuss difficult topics openly. In a respectful, civilized way. And find solutions. We are growing up as a nation. Though slowly.
Long live multi-ethnic, multi-religious and tolerant Sri Lanka.
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Mohamed Marzook / February 22, 2013
I have large number of non-Muslim, Buddhists and others, friends who aware of my religious conscious as a Muslim. I have and do share meals with them and whenever I do they do not fail to inform me whether the food served is Halal or not and they also make sure that only what is Halal is served to me. The world has some relief because God has created at least some intelligent and reasonable people of that nature .
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Thambiya / February 23, 2013
To start with whole halal issue is nonsensical, having the approval on your product does not increase the price at all. What’s wrong with that.
I believe that these hard liners are using this issue as a platform to unite and deal with their discomfort of living with minorities. They all suffer from the colonial mindset of being disenfranchised.
But if those, idiots try to harm the Muslims. I hope the Muslims will rise up and give them a 1915 that they’ll never forget.
“And slay them wherever ye find them. And drive them out of the place whence they drove you out of, for persecution is worse than slaughter’ But if they desist, then lo, Allah is merciful”
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Ben Hurling / February 23, 2013
Your kind of rhetoric is not what we need in Sri Lanka now.
We already have ioiots looking for bloodshed.
Ratther follow cool, collected, non-violent appraoch taken by ACJU and many milliosn of Sinahelse as well.
Vioelnce should be dealt with at once firmly by law enforcement. Whether it is coming from Balu Sena idiots or Islamic fanatics. It is important to have professional intelligence services to alert the state with quality info about what is going in a timely fashion. So, Sri Lanka can nip potential violence in the bud.
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dgd / February 24, 2013
Muslims are more racist than sinhalese, as this comment shows.
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Ben Hurling / February 24, 2013
I think evil is with in all of us.
Just waiting for the right moment to pop up.
That is why open debate, rule of law and transparency are so important in a society.
So, we are strong enough to handle extremism when it surfaces.
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Afham / March 8, 2013
DgD …My friend … just because someone posts with a name Thambiya… how do you conclude that he is Muslim. Does this site offer info on religious affiliation? Their comes the preconcieved notion that is very often the lock on the door to wisdom… restraint is the key word as correctly put by brother Hurling
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alagiya / March 19, 2013
these idiotic people wants to pull up a fight that’s their intention.
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Sad for Lanka / February 24, 2013
Mr Thambiya (if that is your name), please do Sri Lanka a favour and tone down the rhetoric. We cannot afford any more bloodshed in this land that belongs to all of us. Admittedly, and shamefully, there is a lot of unfortunate orchestrated aggravation against the ‘halal’ concept and more insidiously against the Muslim community, but as the ACJU has demonstrated to their great credit, such acts must be responded to in a mature, responsible way rather than by a ‘going back to 1915’ threat which will further push us down the slippery slope to damnation.
I laud the ACJU for the stand they have taken and I get the feeling that some of the correspondents above (Ben Hurling et al) feel that halal products are intended to be sold only to Muslims; I really do not believe that this is the ACJU’s message…. instead it is more likely that it is a way to provide a channel for Muslims who seek halal certified food. I would be astounded if non-Muslims who may choose for whatever reason to purchase halal certified food are denied the opportunity, for this would be totally counter-productive and also interpreted as further provocation, which may have the unfortunate and unintended consequence to provide another platform to those intent on stoking more fires of racial and religious conflagration.
Perhaps the ACJU would care to clarify via their usual media channels?
Thanks.
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Mohideen / February 25, 2013
My Fellow Buddist Country man ,we need more broad minded people like you.I have good Buddist Friends among them some are Buddist Priests when they come to functions they stay at my place.they prfer to eat food prepard by my self because we dont use gelatin,fatt,Alcohol.
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Bodu Bala / February 26, 2013
I am a supporter of Bodu Bala Sena and I can very proudly say that the government and specially the defense secretary are with us. We will not demand anything without the government blessings. Our main problem right now is the Muslims. If you see the population growth in Sri Lanka from 1981 to 2012, the Sinhalese have a growth of 38.2% and the Tamils have a growth of 20.3% where as the Muslims have a growth of 78.6%. The Tamils were only asking for a piece of land by waging a war but the Muslims will take over the whole country very peacefully if we allow them to grow at this rate.
Whether you like it or not, Sri Lanka is blessed by Buddha (Buddhist country) and it is none other than Buddha himself has chosen the Sinhalese as the sustainers of Buddhism. Sinhala-Buddhists should always be the majority in Sri Lanka, only a Sinhala-Buddhist should rule Sri Lanka (President). In this regard, the government agreed to ban family planning methods that control birth. We will be starting a programme to educate the Sinhala-Buddhists to produce as many children as they can. We are working on introducing new laws to legalize Polygamy so that there will be no legal restrictions in Sinhala-Buddhist men and women taking multiple partners with the objective of producing more and more children. Our Sinhala-Buddhist clergy took entered into politics in order to protect Buddha’s blessed Country and the Sinhalese people whom he chose to protect his doctrine (Dhamma).
The Buddhist clergy in the East is well known for martial arts. They learned it for self defense. As long as the present defense secretary is with us we have no fear but to defend ourselves in Sri Lanka in the future, we may have to form a Bodu Bala Sena regiment/saffron brigade, a separate army to protect the Sinhala-Buddhists.
All the ancient archeological artifacts found in Sri Lanka are only Buddhist and Hindu. Muslims and Christians are aliens to Sri Lanka. The colonial invaders forced the Buddhists and Hindus and converted them to Christianity. Similarly, the Arab traders who came to Sri Lanka married Buddhist and Hindu women and converted them to Muslims and even today they are doing the same. There are several cases of Sinhala-Buddhist women marrying Muslim men; they are forcefully converted to Muslims.
Halaal and other issues are not very major compared to the above but we have to nip it in the bud before it becomes a custom. We should never allow the Muslims and Christians to control anything in Sri Lanka. The law and the legislature should always be under the control of the Sinhala-Buddhists. Sri Lanka is a gift from Buddha to the Sinhalese. The Sinhala-Buddhists are very peaceful and compassionate towards others and that is the reason why we allowed others to live in our country. We know what the Muslims have done to countries that were Buddhist once upon a time (Bangladesh, Afghanistan, and so on). We do not want that to happen in our land. We are very grateful to the present government for giving us full support and strength to carry out our programmes very smoothly.
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Dr.Rajasingham Narendran / February 22, 2013
Do the Muslims have to carry a certificate to show the shop keepers they are Muslims or special shops opened to sell only Halal shops? I am sure the Muslims will not be comfortable buying meat or products from a shop selling both Halal and non-halal meat and products. Where as we the Buddhists, Hindus and Christians have no reason to object to Halal meat or products. If the additional cost of products because halal certification is a concern, the ACJU should have found a way to issue the certification without any charge.
Where are we heading as a nation?
Dr. Rajasingham Narendran
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Dev / February 22, 2013
We are heading in the same direction we have been heading for the past 65 years, and with the likes of you, I suspect that the direction will not change any time soon.
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kp / February 22, 2013
the man has a point, dev. how exactly do we now put this into practice without looking like the nazis who issued those little cardboard cards to jews?
for a religion that advocates not eating meat, i would’ve honestly thought that lanka’s buddhists would’ve been happy to buy halal, knowing that what they eat has not come into contact with at least one type of meat. but apparently the uneducated masses have been whipped up by these monks…
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Dr.Rajasingham Narendran / February 22, 2013
Please look at the mirror. You are the person your comment should apply to.
Dr. RN
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Dev / February 22, 2013
Ha ha says the government acolyte LOL
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No justice / February 24, 2013
Dev, Do not be a party to Bodu Bala Sena blood suckers.These blood suckers have been doing this over so many centuries.The story that the yellow robed crooks are soft hearted is false.They like human flesh
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Mohamed Marzook / February 22, 2013
Certainly the average Buddhist, in fact the overwhelming majority of them, the Hindus and Christians are not bothered whether the food or any other item is Halal or not. It is the few Buddhist extremist who spring-up suddenly now and then use such issues to make themselves popular among the general Buddhist public. If one observes clearly the situation clearly the mainstream Buddhist clergy like the Mahanayakes and others have not involved themselves in these campaigns of the few. The few are doing it because they are beginning to lose the confidence of the Buddhist people due to the misbehaviour of these Buddhist Monks themselves who are violating Buddhist teachings and now very often found to be involved in each and every anti-social activity. Their anti-Halal Campaign is a part of this self-serving manifestation.
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whywhy / February 22, 2013
Majority of Muslims in cities like Colombo,will buy their
meats from butcheries,a traditional buying and in rural
areas that’s the practice anyway.So no problems.But( many
buts and ifs)is this enough for the PATRIOTS to stop the
onslaught?Muslims are good diners and the supermarkets
will always try to attract good spenders.Dr.Nar,nothing
can come free of charge in a capitalist society where even
drinking water has a price.Halal was just a pretext for the
hate campaign and on the part of Muslims,no action is going
to work for them in the long run.
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Dr.Rajasingham Narendran / February 22, 2013
Whywhy,
I am sure the Muslims can meet the cost by other ways.
Dr.RN
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whywhy / February 22, 2013
Dr.Nar,the whole concept of religion itself is about
money and nothing but money.Now,as you believe let’s
imagine Halal comes at no cost at all.Do you think
BBS or any other body will not surface to attack the
process? On the other hand,free means you are inviting
all of those in many kinds of businesses to get one
and the process will need tremendous amount of energy
and then as the horizon widens there’s real substance for
the BBS to claim that there’s a real Islamic threat to
our lifestyle.But again,yes it’s true that Muslims can
find a way for a fee free service if that was the aim of
the VEGETARIAN BBS.
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AYMANhttps://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/comments-policy-2/ / February 23, 2013
ARE B.B.S. VEGETARIANS.? THEIR SIZE EXPOSES THEM
Bloody Bull Shit!!!!!!!!!!!!
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whywhy / February 23, 2013
Why not let the dogs bark and the caravan move on?
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Mohamed Marzook / February 22, 2013
Those marketing their Halal certified products to attract more and more Muslims will someway or another find ways to sell their products. There will no ways to defeat this. In the United Kingdom when the Asda Super Markets thought of attracting more Muslims towards their Poultry, Beef and Mutton products it set-up separate Halal counters manned by Muslim butchers. Then Tesco Super Markets followed suit. Now wherever Muslims are present in large number the Halal counter facility is being increase and more Muslims, men sporting beard, women even clad in Hijab (even with their face covered) are employed. That is the reality.
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Nabil / February 23, 2013
The solution to this impasse is for Muslims to create a fund and pay for certification. Right now the issue is NOT Halal certification and the cost non-Muslims have to pay. It is Islam-phobia and the BBS is itching to pick up a fight.
They have attacked mosques, the Hijab, Islamic Banking and the the so called growth of the Muslim population.
Mark my words Halal is only the tip of the iceberg. If you don’t believe me listen to Champika Ranwaka carefully. His ire against Muslims is evident when he says that Sinalese are minority in the capital.
He has dismissed the compromise formula offered by ACJU by saying that it is not practical to have both Halal and Non halal food supplied by the same firm.
In essence they don’t want to compromise.
My submission is that despite knowing that the case against Muslim is hollow and baseless, knowing that it can trigger a blood bath, the JHU and BBS insist on an anti-Muslim tirade.
The blame must be placed squarely at the feet of our society that tolerates triumphalism viewing the subjugation of our own fellow citizens as a victory ignoring that thousands of innocent people paid the ultimate price for this so called victory.
We won the war and lost our soul in the process.
Look how fearful the minorities are! Despite deep rooted religious beliefs the Muslims are saying that they are willing to compromise. Yet the Sinhalese have their daggers drawn.
Should not the majority be ashamed to put their fellow citizens through this ordeal? Isn’t 30 years of strife not enough? Do you want more blood shed and the attendant economic ruin.
Some day soon simmering emotions are going to ignite and many lives will be lost. The majority will have another 30 years of shame to put up with. The choice is yours!
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No justice / February 24, 2013
Nabil, waith for the day we can eat roasted Balu Balu Sena flesh. I am a Buddist and I practise it unlike the Balu Balu Sena gutter born shits
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Jack Point / February 27, 2013
Well said nabil.
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AYMAN / February 27, 2013
CHAMPIKA,
SINHALESE ARE A MINORITY IN THE CAPITAL SINCE THEY ARE MORE GOVIYAS, DHEEVARAYO ETC.MUSLIMS ARE IN BUSINESS SO NATURALLY THEY HAVE MOVED INTO THE COMMERCIAL CAPITAL. THIS IS COMMONSENSE.
BUT THEN COMMONSENSE IS NOT COMMON AMONG THE LIKES OF CHAMPIKAS,
GAMMANPILLARS AND ATURELIYAS AND THEIR LIKE. THAT IS WHY YOU ARE LEFT BEHIND. START THINKING MORE POSITIVELY
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Marwan / February 28, 2013
Aiy Aiy Nabil, totally with you. Beat some sense into them.
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Naufal / February 24, 2013
Dr. Rajasingham’s ideas is good, but, the problem is ACJU, doesn’t have any income to run the functions. I think most Sri Lankan and Arabs are very closely watching all these steps. If any Arab association can take the responsibility , then ACJC can issue a certificate free of charge.
As a business, no one care about the expenses , if there are markets for the products. Sri Lanka is not only country who can provide halal product to Muslim countries.
Malaysia, Bangladesh, Indonesia and few other countries are waiting to get the market of the Muslim Countries. If Sri Lanka lost it is not easy to get it back.
So please think about and take decision.
Vegetarians doesn’t want to worry about meat eaters.
Thanks
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AYMAN / February 27, 2013
THE QURAN ANS SUNNAH IS CLEAR ON WHAT IS HALAL AND HARAM.
MUSLIMS SHOULD KNOW THIS. AND LEAVE THE DOUBTFUL.
WE ARE JUST WASTING OUR TIME ON SOME SILLY “MISADVENTURE”
OF THE ACJU.JUST IGNORE THE ACJU AS I AND A LOT OF MUSLIMS.
LETS FORGET THIS, IGNORE THE RABBLE ROUSERS AND GO FORWARD AND LIVE IN PEACE AS WE HAVE DONE FOR CENTURIES.
“MAN DOES NOT LIVE BY BREAD ALONE”
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The Professional / February 24, 2013
Dr. Narendran,
That is exactly the issue.
“All Ceylon Jamiyyathul Ulama is the apex religious body of Islamic Theologians that provides religious and community leadership to the Sri Lankan Muslim Community who are 9.6% of the total population of the country.”
Why do Theologians charge money for issuing Halal Conformity Certificates? For their up keep or for raising money to spread Islam? Why not those oppose Halal certification have a mechanism to have Haram certification on products that are not Halal to raise money for helping poor people for whom Halal or Haram has no meaning in the struggle to live.
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Dr.Rajasingham Narendran / February 26, 2013
The Professional,
The questions that naturally arise frrom your comment are:
Does the ACJU analyse the products in any laboratory before issuing the certicate?
If not, what are the procedures it adopts to ensure that the products are indeed Halal?
There will always a cost. But the cost will be higher, if the ACJU conducts tests of its own or contracts it out to other laboratories.
Dr.Rajasingham Narendran
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AYMAN / February 27, 2013
PLEASE BRING THE PROOF TO SHOW MUSLIMS “BUY” OTHERS INTO ISLAM.
WE DONT HAVE TO.
I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AGAINST HALAL CERTIFICATION SINCE I KNOW WHAT TO EAT.
IF YOU ARE NOT A MUSLIM JUST MIND YOUR BUSINESS. YOU CAN EAT AS YOU PLEASE. JUST LEAVE US ALONE.
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Mimi / February 22, 2013
That is fair enough. No Muslim wanted any non Muslims to be “forced” to buy Halal. If any non Muslim wants to buy non Halal, they should go ahead and do so. This entire situation has been magnified by some to shed a bad light on Muslims. I do not think Muslims care if any other Sri Lankans do not want to buy Halal. It is their choice, and as long as they have access to it, they really have no issues. Many of those protesting this like sheep, have absolutely no idea exactly what halal is, they are just parroting what they have been told, and are protesting in sheer ignorance. Ignorance does make people behave in irrational ways, this is one of them.
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AYMANhttps://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/comments-policy-2/ / February 23, 2013
YOU ARE PERFECTLY CORRECT
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Leela / February 23, 2013
Commentator Mini should not worry whether non Muslims know the meaning of halal or its process and etc. He should tell us whether 90% of the population of Sri Lanka has the right to buy products with no halal badge. That is the crux of the matter. Also, this is not just a question of a cost factor. It goes far far beyond that.
However, BBS do not question the right of 10% or so Muslims to buy halal products and/or refuse haram products as their Mullahs tell them. So, BBS will not have objection for establishing halal counters in super markets or women clad in Hijab or men sporting in Muhammad type beards lined in front of them. BBS and the majority Sri Lankans are much more tolerant than the French, the British and their ilk. But Muslims must understand that Sri Lanka constitution stands above Allah’s law and Muhammad’s life example and the Koran.
What we are saying is 90% of the population must have the right to refuse the so-called Muslim halal products. And they must have the right to buy products that Muslims think are haram for haram and halal categorisation depends on religious belief.
What more to talk of the right of 90% of the population if I, a Buddhist cannot buy even a non-meat product like Hienz tomato ketchup without halal badge anywhere in Sri Lanka. It is obvious that ICJU has created a situation where Muslim interest has come first in Sri Lanka. Meaning I, a Buddhists is compelled to buy products with Halal badge. Where is my right? This situation cannot be accepted.
Commentator Mohamed Marzook has displayed a typical Muslim mentality. He said; ‘overwhelming majority of Hindus and Christians are not bothered about whether the food or any other item is Halal or not.’ That means; Muslims propagate that majority Buddhists also accept Muslim halal and reject Muslim haram. What if I say to him that the great majority of Muslims are not bothered about halal either. I am sure Marzook would come up with a scathing attack on my logic.
In preparation for such retort by Marzook and his ilk, I like to add that Islam was rooted with violence much more than the other two theistic religions, namely Hebrew and Christianity. Islam was established not by persuasion but defeating the polytheists of Mecca by war and destroying all their idols or statues of their God like Lat, Ozza, Manah and etc and forcefully converting all the subjugated Meccans to Islam by the point of sword. Thereafter, Islam was spread same way to other countries. All that medieval practices that one finds in Saudi today is what Muhammad introduced after the said war. No true Muslim who follow Muhammad’s life example can reject interpretation of Sharia law by Saudi Arabia and what Bin Laden and his fellow terrorists has been doing to date and that blind cleric Omar Abdel-Rahman who was jailed for 9/11 attack by the US had been preaching when he was a free man.
No wonder all such progeny of early Muslims inherently thought what Muhammad read is the word of Allah, and it is only Allah’s word that is in the Koran and they have to follow Muhammad’s life example whenever and wherever they can. But none of it is no sweet-honey for ears of non-believers.
Talking about Koran, almost one out of twelve verses in it says that Allah hates non-Muslims and he will torment them for eternity in horrible ways. Mind you 95% of the Koran’s total ‘volume’ comprise with such nasty Suras. Hence, we have to tackle issues with Muslims in that light.
Marzook attacking few individual Buddhist monks as the cause for halal issue cannot hide true Islam character under a carpet. It is better to discuss these things openly and understand we have been and what we believe and what we stand for now rather than hiding with false pretences. We Buddhists are used to it for Buddha too had discussions with many religious founders at the time.
Leela
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Nabil / February 23, 2013
Hi Leela
It was good to see you on TV! :) All the debating that you do on behalf of BBS must be exhausting for you. I am sure it is worth the effort cos after all spreading hatred must be exhilarating!
I have one question for you. If Buddhism is non-violent, and Islam is how come you are reacting the way you do?
Where is the Karuna, Maithree and Mudhitha that you preach? All your (BBS) protests are violent, full of venom and rhetoric. Already a number of Mosques with recorded histories of over 300 to 400 years have been destroyed many bequeathed by Kings beholden to the Muslims.
The point is that BBS is not very different to the Nazis. You will not stop at Halal. You want to see blood flowing freely for another 30 years.
However I am happy that you and YOUR ilk are exposed at the international level. What worries me is that you don’t care and you will stop at nothing
Mother Lanka will bleed for a long time!
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Leela / February 23, 2013
Nabil,
You have compared BBS members to Nazis, accused them as violent and said they have destroyed many mosques. However, I must say, you have failed to name any of the so-called 400 years old damaged mosques. I will tell you how ACJU backed Wahabi Thawheeds had damaged a 150 year old mosque when you reply to this comment.
Do you know that ‘All Ceylon Thareekathul Mufliheen’ was founded in the late 1980s by one M.S.M. Abdullah known as “Rah,” in the village of Maruthamunai. Its headquarters is in Kattankudy and was registered as a cultural society in 1989. The order has branches throughout the island with 42 mosques and 15,000 members.
Abdullah published a book in Tamil titled “Imanin Unmaiyai Nee Arivaya,” or “Do You Know the Truth of Iman” in 1980. With or without reading the book, ACJU that is involved with Halal controversy with BBS now declared a fatwa on Abdullah on September 10, 1989. ACJU declared Abdullah and his followers as “murtadd”. Meaning, Abdullah and his followers are apostates of Islam.
Such action is ok, if ACJU left Abdullah and co alone. Wahhabis in Sri Lanka has no desire like that. They acted through a movement called Thawheed, or Monotheism to open numerous madresas and despise and oppose Sufis. After Thareekathul Mufliheen opened a Meditation Centre at Kattankudy in 1996, there was a Wahhabian arson attack on the building at 1 A.M on May 29 the same year.
As a result of a court case filed by Abdullah against ACJU in 1990 fatwa and many discriminations against them were removed. All this you can read in a book by Abdullah named “The Court of Reason” published in 2010.
Abdullah died on December 6, 2006. Wahhabi Thawheed network and the armed “Jihad” incited the local clerics and politicians to oppose his burial in the Meditation Centre, as he was a supposed apostate. Another member of the Sufi order had died on December 1, 2006, and was buried on that day. On December 2 however it was exhumed by Wahhabis.
In a separate issue but on Wahabi influence the UC of Kattankudy had declared the minaret at the Meditation Centre, a “unauthorized structure.” UC ordered to dismantle it but the Police prevented the demolition. However, Wahhabi fanatics barged in, and a police post and a police vehicle were smashed. Consequently, three rioters were shot and killed. On December 15, 2006, members of the UC joined the Wahhabi mob that invaded the Meditation Centre and knocked down the minaret and removed the body of Abdullah and burned it. The houses of 117 Sufis were destroyed by the fire. Many Sufis fled the district, two were injured, and one lost an arm.
ACJU we were talking is the same Wahabi Thawheed extremists that have created a Halal issue BBS today.
Nabil, when I hear your response, I shall write about what Wahabi extremists had done to a mosque at Ukuwela and Beruwala.
Thank you.
Leela
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Nabil / February 23, 2013
I am not a paranoid like you to worry about who is doing what to whom. I listened to your(BBS) diatribe on a private TV Channel and was left dumbfounded that this was happening in the civilized worldand I am terrified of the consequences.
Muslims have for a 1000 years lived in harmony. It is unfortunate that you with your PhD is unable see the emptiness of your arguments, that you are hating for the sake of hating. Even if you don’t see the hate in you, most of the readers of CT do.
Here is an example of how dubious your argument is- It is all right for you to do what Lord Buddha asked you to do. It is not right for us to do what our god has asked us to do. How do you argue that Muslims are this and that? Is it from the might is right perspective or is your argument based on a perceived superiority, I wonder?
With regards to the examples you want me to cite, since you do a lot of research for BBS and provide them the information, how is it that you don’t know about the mosques that have been demolished? Surely you should know the ten cases that even the usually sonorous Ranil W is aware of? I guess it is convenient to ignore historical precedence when the BBS attacks Jailani (Kuragala) a remote inaccessible cave mosque, and the Mosque in Anuradhapura. Now that is not violence!
As regards to the events in the Eastern Province, I am not particularly worried because on the one hand it is a tussle between two sects of Islam and on the other hand the law of the land operates there with the aggrieved party having access to legal recourse.
Look at the contrast. A foreigner with a tattoo of the Buddha is not spared. Yet in the case of your BBS the law doesn’t operate. That worries us, the law abiding citizens. The irony is when hate speech is gleefully consumed by the law enforcement authorities instead of promptly putting a stop to it
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Leela / February 24, 2013
Mr Nabil,
This is a copy and paste from realsalafi.Blogspot.com
Welcome to the Beruwala Masjid Al-Dhiraar Attack Blog
As Salam Alaikum!
The incidents which happened at Beruwala are very regrettable indeed; but the point to be noted here is that this is not the 1st incident of Mosque burning or Mosque destruction in Sri Lanka or attacks & killings of worshipers & ulemas.
(1) 2009 February; A 150 years old Mosque was destroyed, contents inside the mosque including the holy Quran, other Islamic literature, 150 years old Historical artifacts of the mosque & The Holy Saint’s Ziyarath/Tomb was exhumed and burnt at Ukuwela Matale by Radical “Tawheed’s” who practice Wahabism; the “mob” followers of Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab of NAJD’(1702-1791CE).
(2) 2006 December; A 118 years old Mosque was destroyed/burned to ground and The Holy Saint’s Ziyarath/Tomb in the vicinity of the Mosque compound was exhumed & taken by Radical “Tawheed’s” who practice Wahabism; at Eastern province of Sri Lanka; Kattankudy.
(3) 2006 December; Radical “Tawheed’s” who practice Wahabism torched 117 houses belonging to a poor slum Muslims who refused to practice Wahabism/Tawheedsm. Eastern province of Sri Lanka; Kattankudy.
(4) 2008 July; Radical “Tawheed’s” who practice Wahabism Armed with Machine Guns & Swords torched 60-70 houses of the poor Muslims These Muslims consisting of almost 200-250 adults and 85 children were chased from their traditional homeland; The Supreme Court Ordered the Taliban Tawheeds to allow the poor Muslims to return to their homes and practice ISLAM peacefully; but even to this day the Taliban Wahabis are not allowing these poor Muslims to return to their home; they’re now living in refugee centers. Eastern province of Sri Lanka; Kattankudy.
(5) 2004 October; Radical “Tawheed’s” who practice Wahabism burned down a Muslim College Library, The Prayer Hall (Dhikr center), around 20 houses of Muslims.
(6) 2004 November; A prominent Ulema of the of Jummah Mosque in Kattankudy who didn’t agree with the “Tawheeds” was Shot & killed at point blank range by “Tawheed’s” who practice Wahabism
(7) 1996 July; Radical “Tawheed’s” who practice Wahabism burned down The Dhikr center.
(8) 2009 July 31st; just last week a Prominent Islamic Scholar & Ulema of the Valaichchenai Mosque was abducted & tortured by “Tawheed’s” who practice Wahabism
(9) 2009 May; Thihariya Jummah Salat jamath was attacked by “Tawheed’s” who practice Wahabism
These are just a few of the “Terrorisms” waged by “Tawheed’s” who practice Wahabism; on a daily basis they make trouble for Muslims of Sri Lanka on various levels. We don’t want so called enlightened “WAHABI” “Tawheed’ to come and teach us what Islam is all about; when Islam stands for peace these radicals practice & force others to practice WAHABISM which is Terrorism of Muslims by Muslims,. The holy prophet said; “various evils will appear in the future. Whoever attempts to divide this community while they are united, you should strike him down with the sword no matter who he happens to be”. This is exactly what happened at Beruwala.
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Are you denying any of those, Mr Nabil.
Leela
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Nabil / February 24, 2013
Dear Ms./Mr. Leela,
Like I said in my previous response I am not too worried that there are clashes among Muslim Sects,AS LONG as the LAW operates.
You remind me of the Wolf and the Sheep in one of Aesop’s fables and I quote “Upon which the Wolf seized him and ate him up, saying, “Well! I won’t remain supperless, even though you refute every one of my imputations.”
So you hate Muslims because they fight among themselves and like the wolf use any excuse to bait them?
You haven’t answered my questions about the issues in Anuradhapura, Kuragala, etc., because you can’t meet my arguments objectively. Are you justifying leadership given by Buddhist Priests in destroying mosques?
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whywhy / February 24, 2013
True and absolutely true.All these sectarian clashes
happened in the east mainly and in some other parts
of the island and also the trend is growing at an
alarming level AMONG MUSLIMS.From the beginning I voiced
my concern over this new development where I lived before
and even managed to stop the spread to my area through
just making some phone calls to proper moderate and
respectable but shy personalities.This is purely an internal
matter of Muslim community to be sorted out among themselves.
Outsiders like Leela and the BBS are only trying to use it as
a springboard for a show down with Muslims before the rage
against other races recedes among the Sinhalese held at gunpoint
patriotism.That’s why I recommend “let the dogs bark and the
caravan move on.” If the bloodshed is on the agenda,submission
is no cure.The moderate Sinhalese will fail to stop it.But we
know there’s a large majority Sinhalese who hate hooligans,
looters and murderers.People like Leela’s job must be to
subscribe to call into question,the role of false clergy BBS
and not ACJU.If ACJU was to blame for all the evils you
mentioned above,how come you use them to gather support of
Muslim countries for Srilanka,in Geneva?
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Observer / February 25, 2013
Leela, you are showing your hatred, racial, narrow minded policies in this forum against muslims and islam. It very clear you are not educated on islam. I am not sure you have learned your buddhism philosophy exactly as thought by Lord Buddha as well.
The real issue is “Halal” and whether it should be applicable to non muslims or otherwise. ACJU says, it is not compulsory. To implement different strategies, ACJU is in discussion with Government, and hopefully they will come to an amicable solution as soon as possible. That’s it.
Why you are writing nonsense to this forum. You are talking about different factions in islam and they are fighting each other etc. This is a separate matter and do not mix this with Halal issue.
Just tell me, what kind of food majority of buddists living and working in middle eastern countries eat ? Almost all Halal food. Why do not you ask your sinhala buddhist brothern to stop eating this food. The simple fact is that it is non issue.
To understand what is Islam, what is Buddhism, what is Halal, you need to talk/see people like Dr. Zakir Naik. He will clear all your misconceptions. There are many videos in youtube about Dr. Naik. God bless you.
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Leela / February 25, 2013
Observer
I was commenting only on matters related to Halal. Then someone among your Muslim brotherhood had commented about Ranil’s statement on Mosques being attacked by Buddhists as a response to my comment and that made me write about Muslim infighting and Wahabis attacks on Sufi mosques. Are you suggesting that I have being lying and propagating untruth? If not how could you claim that I am writing nonsense. Also, I see that you have barged in to this discussion halfway through and you haven’t read my earlier comments otherwise you wouldn’t have asked Buddhists not to eat halal and asked me to meet Dr.Naik. I have said that almost every available product is halaled and I’ve been watching Naik’s Peace TV regularly for sometime. And that’s how I know Naik parrot less than half the verses of the Koran regularly.
Leela
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AYMAN / March 21, 2013
LEELA,
THERE IS SECTARIANISM IN ALL RELIGIONS,ALTHOUGH
ISLAM DOES NOT PERMIT SECTARIANISM.
IT IS CLEARLY STATED IN THE QURAN;
“And hold fast, all of you together, to the Rope of Allâh (i.e. this Qur’ân), and be not divided among yourselves, and remember Allâh’s Favour on you, for you were enemies one to another but He joined your hearts together, so that, by His Grace, you became brethren (in Islâmic Faith), and you were on the brink of a pit of Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus Allâh makes His Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.,) clear to you, that you may be guided.
…And be not as those who divided and differed among themselves after the clear proofs had come to them. It is they for whom there is an awful torment.”
ISLAM IS ONE, IN FACT “THOWHEED” MONOTHEISM IS THE VERY FOUNDATION.
THERE IS NOTHING KNOWN AS WAHABISM, BUT IT IS A TERM COINED BY
THE “DEVIANTS” TO DESCRIBE,MUSLIMS WHO PRACTICE ISLAM BY STRICT ADHERENCE TO THE QURAN AND THE SUNNAH(PROPHETS SAYINGS AND ACTIONS)
ACCORDING TO THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE PIOUS PREDECESSORS”SALAFUS SALIHEEN” THAT IS THE COMPANIONS AND THEIR SUCCESSORS, AND THEN THEIRS.
THIS IS STRESSED SINCE THEY LIVED DURING THE TIME OF THE PROPHET,WHEN
THE QURAN WAS REVEALED AND THEY WERE TAUGHT BY THE PROPHET HIMSELF.
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Citizen / February 24, 2013
Leela, I think I can remember this case in Maruthamunai. There was a dispute (one faction attacking the other – I think Thawkiya (not a full-fledged mosque) as it is called was the place of worship that came under attack) which went to the Court of Appeal somewhere in the mid-1980s. There was a teacher and a preacher who were actively engaged in this so-called Thowkiya. We got an injunction for them to carry on with their religious work. I can still remember that some organization from Egypt was financing them. Eventually a meditation centre was burnt on the pretext of being unauthorized structure. However, after obtaining the injunction in their case, at their invitation when I went there, to my surprise instead of before slaughtering the goat immediately, the youths were causing wounds even on its tail despite its crying. It was pure and simple cruelty. I do not know how they had the heart to eat the flesh of that helpless animal. Thereafter I decided not to step in that area. I can even remember this dispute extended to Beruwela. If this is the position of the Muslims, what will happen if Mosques are erected at Anuradhapura, Dambulla, etc with ulterior motive, will it not cause breach of peace. If this is the case it is absolutely rubbish to blame the Sinhalese and label them as extremists.
I can give various instances as to how they ruined the entire system in calculated manner.
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Nabil / February 25, 2013
Dear Citizen,
It appears that you are in the legal profession, and therefore is privy to some of the legal aspects of the matters we discuss here.
However I don’t see any objectivity in your responses other than baseless accusations, doubt and mistrust. The difference between you and Leela however is that LEELA is hell bent on destroying Islam and I have difficulty understanding the casuals.
On the other hand you seem different in that you are willing to accept argument contrary to your own viewpoint and experience.
My response is framed within this context of exploration and must not seen as an excuse.
Firstly, Muslim theologians are not revered as in Christianity and Buddhism; Ulema as they are called are respected for their knowledge and learning. Most of them are paid meager salaries to eke out a life of austerity. As any one in the service of god is expected to, they live a normal,yet pious life with the exception that they can marry and have families of their own. If you like you could equate them in stature to a Bishop or Anunayaka thero. The big difference is that they are not wealthy,and don’t enjoy the pomp and pageantry by virtue of being at the apex of religious service.
There are mavericks in any society who wish to aggrandize their positions seeking publicity etc. Muslims shun such theologians particularly those that curry favour with politicians. The incidents in Marathamunai and Kathankudy are cases in point.
Second the law of the land operated in both these cases. People can seek redress. Even in your case you could have taken the beating of the goat from a cruelty point of view and lodged a complaint.
I don’t wish to know why you didn’t but if you chose not to please don’t try to absolve yourself by blaming the youth, because had you taken action we might have idea of what the outcome was like.
Finally, you are assuming that the incidents in the east are a precursor to what is going to happen in other parts of the country. This is purely conjecture and is contrary to the experience of Buddhists with whom Muslims have a shared culture, spread over a 1000 years of recorded history. How has this changed overnight, is something I don’t understand.
Even if for a moment one entertains such fears, the reality is that the law operates selectively in this country especially against the minority and the full force of the law will come to bear on us.
While no Buddhist has been arrested and punished for hate speech against the minorities, many Muslims and foreigners have been arrested and charged; foreigners for sporting a tattoo, taking pictures, and the band Acorn was banned from performing due to a dance in front of a statue. The Buddha Bar controversy in Beruwela, Sarongs and T shirts with the imprint of Buddha were confiscated and people fined. The examples are endless.Whereas Kuragala and Anuradhapura are two mosques that have huge historical value, one destroyed another to be handed over to the department of archeology to appease the majority and nothing has been done, to assuage the fears of the Muslims.
My point is that should any Muslim organization do anything outside the law, the clergy as well as the lay adherents can take action. I am sure the law enforcement agencies will react swiftly.
However, sadly in Sri Lanka, the majority can break the law, burn mosques and churches, and get away with it. Even when the law is enforced against one or two majority community culprits, political pressure is brought on the officers to release them.
Muslims were persecuted by the Portuguese and the Dutch because the Muslims sided with the Sinhalese, were driven out of the coastal areas and found refuge in the eastern and northwestern province, rebuilt their lives and have done everything to coexist peacefully.
So my premise is that BBS, JHU and learned men like you have no cause for alarm, and our expectation is that you defend us against the nay sayers.
You must also take cognizance of the fact that its human nature to cherish liberty, without freedom and liberty he will fight back. Thus militancy from one group begets militancy as a counter force. We experienced this from the Tamils in the form of the LTTE after the 83 pogrom.
We don’t want another Muslim militancy on our hands, and particularly walk into the trap set by those who cry wolf such as Leela and BBS.
So lets put a stop to alarmist cries and get on with our lives, please!
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Leela / February 25, 2013
Citizen,
We are very grateful to you that you decide to share your experience with the subscribers here. Notice the manner in which Nabil defended the youths that hurt the goat you have mentioned. He defended the accused by throwing the guilt on the complainant for not complaining the crime.
This type of jurisprudence in Islam is nothing new. Let come up with a typical example. I must say though, when we expose such cases as yours, we are generally accused as racists and bigots. Never mind!
The Daily Star of Bangladesh reported on 22 Nov 2011 that a 14 year old girl named Hena Begum had informed her parents that she was raped by her 40-year old cousin. Subsequently in a Islamic court comprising of village elders and Muslim clerics in the district of Shariatpur, which is about 1 hour from Dhaka, Begum was convicted of “adultery” (because her cousin was married) and sentenced to 100 lashes. When she had collapsed after 80 lashes, they have discontinued to beat her. Though her family took her to a hospital, she died few days later from internal bleeding.
Imagine your plight if you happen to make that complain in a Islamic country.
Leela
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AYMAN / March 21, 2013
CITIZEN,
IT IS NOT THOWKIYA BUT THAKKIYA.THESE ARE NOT MOSQUES THEY ARE
PLACES USED BY DEVIANT SECTS FOR MEDITATION AND OTHER ACTIVITIES
WHICH ARE NOT ISLAM.
THE BERUWELA INCIDENT WAS CAUSED BY THE PREACHER OF THE THAWHEED MOSQUE REFERRING TO THE OTHERS AS DEVIANTS.THEN THEIR LEADER REFERRED TO AS “SHAIKH” ORDERED HIS FOLLOWERS TO ATTACK THE OTHER MOSQUE. THEY DID A THOROUGH JOB, BY KILLING SOME PEOPLE BURNING QURANS AND SETTING FIRE TO THE MOSQUE.
THIS WENT TO COURTS AND THEIR WAS AN ORDER TO PRODUCE “THE SHAIKH”
THIS ORDER WAS NOT CARRIED OUT,AND NONE OF THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE MURDER CHARGED IN COURTS. HOW? AND WHY?
OUR CORRUPT JUDICIARY AND LEGAL SYSTEM.WHICH IS KNOWN WORLD-WIDE.
THERE ARE TWO “DEVIANT MUSLIM JUDGES” WHO ARE FOLLOWERS OF THIS “SHAIKH” WHO PERVERTED THE JUDICIAL PROCESS,BY USING THEIR
INFLUENCE.
THESE PEOPLE DID NOT HEED THE WARNING IN THE QURAN;
“And whoever contends with and contradicts the Messenger after guidance has been clearly conveyed to him and chooses a path other than that of the Faithful Believers, We shall leave him in the Path he has chosen and land him in Hell, what an evil refuge! [Surah al-Nisaa’ 4:115]
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Mimi / February 27, 2013
Mr. Leela since you are a spokesperson for BBS, it seems you have also taken their rather anti Muslim stance here. Let the majority of non Muslims buy and eat whatever they desire, as mentioned I doubt the Muslims worry about that. It seems small minded people with ignorant opinions have made a mountain out of a molehill, by claiming Muslims are insisting ALL Sri Lankans adhere to their halal policies. What the BBS is doing to this country is reprehensible and against the teachings of the Lord Buddha. Hate and attacks against innocent civilians, places of worship, and businesses of people of a different faith is truly reflective of a hate mongers and Islamaphobes, and you seem to be carrying the water for them. Shame Mr. Leela. You are yet another rabble rouser, and inciter.
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AYMAN / February 27, 2013
IF YOUR WOMEN CAN GO NAKED WHILE APPEARING TO BE DRESSED,AND SOCIETY
ACCEPTS IT, WHY DENY THE SAME THING TO A WOMAN WHO WANTS TO DRESS MODESTLY? I HAVE A LONG BEARD. I AM A MAN. ONLY MEN HAVE FACIAL HAIR
HOW DOES MY BEARD COME IN YOUR WAY. IF AS A MAN YOU DONT GET FACIAL HAIR AND PUBIC HAIR YOU ARE WHAT IN ORDINARY LANGUAGE PEOPLE REFER TO AS A “PONNAYA”
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AYMAN / March 10, 2013
LEELA,
THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION WHY YOU CANT BUY A BOTTLE OF HEINZ
KETCHUP WITHOUT HALAL BADGE IS THAT THE PRODUCERS KNOW WHO ARE
THE BIGGEST BUYERS.
WITH HALAL CERTIFICATION BEING STOPPED, I HEAR SOME COMPANIES
EXPORTING FOOD PRODUCTS TO FOREIGN MARKETS,WILL HAVE TO REDUCE
PRODUCTION BY ALMOST 50 PER CENT.
REPERCUSSION-LOSS OF JOBS. OUR BIG MOUTH “G.L.P.+” SAID WE ARE
NOT INTERESTED IN “GSP+” -RESULT- GARMENT FACTORIES CLOSED AND
RESULTING UNEMPLOYMENT.
WHEN WILL WE LEARN?
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Safa / February 22, 2013
A calm and measured response befitting a religous scholar and leader, with malice to none and for the good of all the nation. Let Halal be confined to the muslims only. Hope the other practical steps will be taken at consumer level, by retailers, to make this a reality.
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AYMAN / March 10, 2013
HALAL IS WHAT IS PERMITTED FOR MUSLIMS. WHY ALL THIS DEBATE? THE LABEL IS THERE TO SAY MUSLIMS CAN CONSUME IT. NOTHING TO SAY OTHERS CAN’T .
IF ONLY MUSLIMS KNOW THE PERMITTED AND PROHIBITED AND LEAVE THE
DOUBTFUL, WHICH IS CLEAR IN THE QURAN AND PROPHETIC TRADITIONS,
THERE IS NO NEED FOR ANY CERTIFICATION, AND DEBATE AND CALLING EACH OTHER NAMES.
HALAL IS NOT THE ISSUE. THE B.B.S. HAS ANOTHER AGENDA.
THIS HALAL ISSUE WAS A “FACADE”- AN INSTANCE OF “KITE-FLYING”!!!
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Alex Drake / February 22, 2013
Thanks to God Almighty, sounds to be a prudent way forward.
If key retailers can have segregated section for Halal products, this will help those avoiding the Halal product very much.
A point to note is the way the certified retailers sell “non Halal” products in the UAE (e.g. Spinneys). They have a marked section where those desire to buy such products access it and there is no major issue about it.
Mind you, UAE is a state with 100% muslim nationals accommodating many other religious groups with warmth and care.
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Senguttuvan / February 22, 2013
Regular Dinners and Lunches have been part of our own social inter-action for generations. Our guests come from all races and religions – that includes leading professionals from the medical, legal, financial and administrative sectors of the Muslim community – that includes some from the diplomatic community too. We do not serve cooked beef or pork at home. Our guests have no qualms about the mutton and chicken we serve – as they, presumably are satisfied, we assure they are bought from good, clean places and cooked hygienically. We have not had any of these controversies coming into play.
By the way, what of fish that almost all of us consume. The Halal controversy does not seem to have included marine products or have they? If Muslims keep away from fish, there will be a substantial drop in the price of this item in increasing demand.
Senguttuvan
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whywhy / February 22, 2013
Muslims do that favor for you.They don’t usually eat
crabs,probably because they don’t know to walk straight!
Muslims also have spared pigs,dogs,monkeys,tortoises,
frogs,snails,snakes(China),rats(Vietnam) and cockroaches
(Thailand).Before too long Srilanka will enjoy the
luxury of eating the water monitor as well.DIVERSITY AT BEST.
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Citizen / February 22, 2013
Muslim dealers who have obtained contracts on tenders for the supply of chicken to the Sri Lanka Armed Forces, have been in the practice of injecting almost 2 kilos of water (water may be clean or unclean) inside the dressed chicken and place them in the deep freezers. No one knows whether these chicken are labeled as Halal or not, but these are cut and packed by Muslims. The price of chicken may be cheap, but the government pays extra money for the frozen water inside the chicken. I have observed this practice in Colombo, though I am not against the Muslim community and brought to the notice of then Minister who is now dead. It is easier to talk, but today’s situation is different. Islamic terrorism is active throughout the world. The West is very careful about the hygienic and the purpose for which it is been marketed. There are instances that some soldiers have fallen ill after eating these chicken curries. Can anyone deny this. Moreover, the Muslim dealer shares the extra money that is paid for the frozen water inside the chicken. Half the share of the money goes for the activities of the Islamic Terrorist Movements. Are these chicken labeled with Halal Certificate. If chicken that are certified as Halal and confined to Muslim community, then there is no problem. But why should the rest of the population be harmed with such unhealthy chicken. I am of the view that people should not pay money for blood shedding purposes. Moreover, what is the guarantee that Muslim dealers in meat are not injected with formalin for purpose of preserving for a longer period and will those also be labeled with Halal Certificate. I think it is better for non-Muslims to buy the meat products from the reputed Super Markets. Though the Buddhist hard-liners have raised this issue, some truths have emerged after a close scrutiny for the benefit of the country and its people. I think it is better to be a vegetarian.
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whywhy / February 23, 2013
Do you know that PHI visits the slaughter house and
approves the process with his stamp before the meat
comes to you?Do you also know that formalin use was
detected in fish and was a general practice of fish
vendors?Well do you know that CMC keeps regularly
warning consumers about adulteration of spices of all
sorts?Are they all Muslims?Coconut oil goes with water
and ask a villager.Rice comes with stones.Are they all
Muslims.Thanks to the open market opened by JRJ,the
situation is slowly changing and sealed and labelled
products are entering the market with guarantee.So,Don’t
try to take on Muslims for all your ills.Do you know
or understand the skills of our beloved nation at least
to a certain reasonable minimum level Citizen?I give you
one small shot.Coir products are a traditional kind of
cottage industry in the south and usually village girls
and women are engaged in making coir yarns in wooden
machines.They sell the products in bundles but to weight.
To add more weight,you know what they do?Always add water.
The buyer who knows the game,never forget to adjust the
scale some kilos less.Experience the whole truth and then
come for the show.Don’t single out Muslims,they are only a
small part of the whole true picture.Army purchases its needs
through a tender procedure and they know what they are buying
from whom and the quality of the purchase.
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Citizen / February 23, 2013
Dear why, why
First of all, in Sri Lanka from the politicians to the peon – 90% of them are corrupted. The injection of water in a dressed chicken is a fact. What is your answer for the poor soldiers who were taken to the hospital after eating chicken supplied by the Muslim Vendors. Everyone knows that political influence play a vital role in granting tenders. Unfortunately, Lalith Athulathmudali is not alive to provide a sound reply. What is the guarantee CMC authorities are genuine and honest? Do you know that there is a reputed firm in coir industry owned by a Muslim, which is always seen in fire almost every year (if it is once it does not matter), presumably to get insurance in order to cover the losses or to gain more profits. Do you know that there are instances how honest Customs Officers are shot dead by Muslims when their goods are smuggled illegally. Do you know why the Colombo High Court Judge was shot dead in the broad day light by the underworld drug king Pottu Nauffer, whose close association was with a prominent Muslim politician. Do you know how this Pottu Nauffer and this Muslim politician engaged in importing cigarettes and other items without payment of any Customs Duties. It does not mean that Vendors from other communities are better. Further, has anyone observed how Kothu rotties are prepared – if one can watch this through the YouTube, the unhygenic condition of the food items (chicken, etc) can be seen. The man holds a beedi or a cigarette in one hand and with the same hand he pierces the chicken, onion, chilli, egg and prepares the kothu rotti and that too picking the remnants of the roti with the same hand. He never washes his hands. Are these hygenic. May be the CMC authorities may have a taste of it, but the West is laughing at this scene. But one should not engage in business that endangers the lives of other persons. JRJ introduced the Liberal Economy with good motive, but some elements have misused it for their gains in an unlawful manner. I can give some more instances. The results of the Entrance Exam of the Sri Lanka Law College is a clear case how corruption has taken place. Moreover, if Muslims are honest why have they failed to condemn the attack on the Twin Tower by Al-Quaeda. On the contrary, they were praising Bin Laden and delivering a lecture over the loud speakers after the prayers which I have seen. Leave alone that – have these Muslims ever uttered a word about the illegal killing of the housemaid Rizana. My view is that generally it is safer to buy products from the Sinhalese, as they are slightly following the western methods which will not endanger the lives of the people. Please do not misunderstand that I am communal-minded. It is strictly in terms of hygenic conditions of the food and on humanitarean grounds.
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Nabil / February 23, 2013
Citizen, you have selective amnesia. You see only Muslim villains! Just shows how balanced this forum has become. Even if you go look at the crime records again again you won’t see that crime is committed by all, because none is so blind as the one who refuses to see
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Citizen / February 23, 2013
Dear Nabil, you allegation is incorrect. We have to accept the truth and that is sportsmanship. I will give one of the startling incidents. It is the Muslim Agents who used to send the housemaids to the Middle-East. When they sent the Sinhalese and Hill country Tamil girls as housemaids, they are issued Passports with Muslim names. I do not know how there Passports are manipulated. But when the dead bodies of these girls are sent back, the husbands and parents and sometimes the brothers and sisters of these dead girls have approached and sworn affidavits before me. But the unfortunate part is, as the names differ (the name in the Passport and the real name of the deceased), it is the Muslim Agent who used to swindle all those compensation sent from Saudi Arabia. If this is the situation, it is useless to blame the hard-line Sinhalese, because they have a moral obligation to look after the people. Politicians will go after the agent because of the commission. What about the common Sinhalese and Tamil people. What do you expect from Sri Lankan when a fraction of the Muslim community is exploiting everything at the expense of a helpless poor citizens. Isn’t this a crime against humanity. As for Halal food, one ponders whether the Halal chicken that are prepared at the Galle Face Green is really healthy. I have my reservation whether those Kottu rotti people or the Appa people are complying with the basic requirements of Hygenic rules.
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Nabil / February 24, 2013
The issue is that you are assuming that Muslims are committing crime as a matter of course, an offensive racist observation.
True, corruption is rampant,but non-Muslim housemaids are complicit in this whole operation.Most Housemaids are now professionals and know that there is a huge demand for Muslim Housemaids and command higher wages. This situation is compounded since Indonesia has banned their women being sent to the middle east.
Since it is easy to get a legitimate passport in this country with fake papers, and the risks are minimal agents exploit uneducated women and men.
Now to me this is a breakdown of law enforcement and has nothing to do with being Muslim. If what you say is true then Muslims must be scheming, cunning and the other communities absolutely naive including the law enforcement authorities. An absurd argument by any stretch of imagination!
Statistically, if all human actions are random, we should not have any more Muslim criminals in jail than their share of the population. I challenge you to talk to the relevant authorities and get the facts and prove to us what you are saying is true.
By facts I mean what is available in the public domain such as the number of agencies registered, those owned by Muslims, the number of women who have died and have not been able to collect their dues from these dubious agencies and how many of those were sent by Muslim agents etc.
I must also remind you that when you talk of the exception you must also talk of the norm; that there are thousands of non-Muslim housemaids masquerading as Muslims and earning higher wages.
So instead of bias, innuendo, and invective isn’t better to limit your observations to what you know of? When the need is objective comment,we could do without rabid rabble rousing!
Thank You
Nabil
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ramesi / February 24, 2013
PLEASE CITIZEN
YOU HAD MENTION OF THE HOUSEMAIDS GOING IN MUSLIM NAME HAVE YOU ANY IDEA HOW THESE PROCESS WORKS PLEASE HAVE SOME SENSE REGARDS TO THIS ARE THESE DOMESTIC AIDS FORCE TO GO WHO IS THE MAIN AUTHORITY ISSUING PASSPORT ITS THE MUSLIM AGENT NO U KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE AND DEPT DOES THESE DOMESTIC AIDS PASS THRU ALL OF THEM MUSLIMS ONLY PLEASE ITS THE ROOT CAUSE OF CORRUPTIONS EVERY BODY ;IVE WITH THESE POOR PEOPLES PLIGHT NOTHING CAN BE DOWN ALONG ITS THE WHOLE OF IT INVOLVE PLEASE DON’T BLAME THE MUSLIMS ALONG ITS HAS TO COME TOP TOP AND TOP TO BOTTOM IN DOING ALL THESE THINGS WE ARE ALSO SRI LANKAN CITIZEN DOES MEAN ACCORDING TO YOU THE OUR WHOLE IMMIGARATION OFFICER ARE MUSLIMS OR THEY ARE NOT EDUCATED TO FIND WHATS HAPPENING AND WHO IS GOING AS FATHIMA PLEASE DONT MAKE OUR WELL TALANTED IMMIGARATION OFFICER BECAUSE A FEW DO SOME FOR PERSONNAL AGAIN MR CITIZEN
WE SRI LANKA WANTED TO LIVE IN PEACH HARMONY AND BROTHERLY SISTERLY WAY
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AYMAN / February 27, 2013
WITH THE CO-OPERATION OF GOOD SINHALA BUDDHISTS WORKING IN THE
GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTS.
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ramesi / February 24, 2013
WAS IT THE MUSLIM DID THE LAW COLLEGE ENTRANCE THINGS
HAVE YOU REALLY DONE THRU WHATW HAPPENED IN TWIN TOWER MATTER WAS IT THAT THE MUSLIMS DID IT SOME MANY WRITERS ARE WRITING ABOUT IT READY THAT PLEASE AFTER 9 11 HAVE U HEARD SOME MANY AMERCIANS ARE CONVERTING TO ISLAM JUST GO DOWM TO YOUTUBE CHECK ABC NEWS IF IT WAS DONE BY MUSLIM YYYYYYYYY
PLEASE CITIZEN YOU ARE JUST IMAGING REGARDS TO FOODSELLERS ITS GOVT THAT HAS TO CONTROL DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE LICENCE HAVE SOME CONTROL OVER APPOINT GOOD HEALTH INSPECTOR PAY THEM GOOD AND ASK THEM TO ENFORCE PROPER WHEN HEAD IS CORRUPT WAT THE TAIL DOES NOTHING DONT BLAME THE POOR ROTI MAKER HE MAY BE MUSLIM BUDDHIST HINDU OR OTHERS BUT HEIS A SRI LANKAN WHO SUFFERS TO MEET HIS DAY TO LIFE
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Leela / February 26, 2013
ramesi,
Please use simple letters for otherwise it’s very very difficult to read. Thank you
Leela
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ramesi / February 24, 2013
Citizen
Yap as u said the Chicken are injected with water to increase the weight
please see who are owners of these firm one one o two belongs to the Muslim community and the rest are who the owners please check for army supply is the the raw o uncooked chicken that was served nop its something prepared so who knows whats other things are used please for just arguing don’t write nor reply We here are not dealing only with meat product but the whole kinds of things like biscuits so on Y does in UK/EU have V sing in Biscuits Cake n chocolate that>s also because they don’t wanted fat o animal oil to be used it same for Muslims
hope u got u a point
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Jim Softy / February 22, 2013
Animal rights groups talk about human killing of food animals.
In the case of Halal meat, the God’s wish is to leave the animal to bleed to death.
Where is compassion there ?
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Dr.Rajasingham Narendran / February 23, 2013
Jim Softy,
Is there any compassion in killing animals for food, by any way? Humane killing of animals is as false as the concept of a humanitarian war, propounded by our government. If one wants to eat meat, animals have to be killed. In a war, humans have to die, injured and be ruined.
Man is a creature of many contradictions!
Dr. Rajasingham Narendran.
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Nabil / February 24, 2013
Jim,
I have seen an argument put forward by the scientific community that it is better to kill a large animal for food than a large number of smaller ones, a purely rational argument.
What they say is that a bull will yield about 1000 kg of meat with the loss of one life, and serve thousands. Whereas killing of poultry, and fish would serve only a few and a large number of lives are lost.
Admitted,there is no humane way of killing, yet eating meat is a universally accepted solution to the dearth of proteins.
The issue is perception. The consumption of meat in the west exceeds 40 Kg/ capita, and even Thailand a predominantly Buddhist country has a per capita above 5 Kg whereas Sri Lanka is among the lowest 10 meat consuming counties with a per capita of less than 1.4 kg.
Thus ” Halal” and slaughter must be seen in proper perspective. First stop eating meat to reduce further, the killing of animals. Two, tighten the process of slaughtering to ensure that basic facilities are provided for a quick and painless (as possible) killing.
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AYMANhttps://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/comments-policy-2/ / February 23, 2013
Halal: The most humane slaughter – Scientific Proof
The great festival of Eid-ul Adha, is celebrated by the Muslims all over the world on the tenth of Zil-Haj. Every year millions of cattle are slaughtered on this auspicious day with a view to receiving the Divine Mercy and in remembrance of Prophet Ibrahim and Prophet Ismael’s sacrifice. This noble deed is, however, condemned by many non-Muslims, who ignorantly think that this is an act of cruelty. In fact this Islamic practice of slaughter or sacrifice by slitting the throat with a sharp knife has come under attack by some animal rights activists, who claim that slaughtering of an animal with a knife is the most painful and tortuous method of killing. However, it has been established beyond any shadow of doubt, through impartial scientific experiments conducted in non-Muslim countries, that the Islamic method of slaughtering with a knife is the least painful and thus the most humane method of killing an animal.
The intensive research conducted at the School of Veterinary Medicine, Hanover University in Germany was headed by Professor Wilhelm Schulze. He was assisted by Dr. Hazim.
The results showed that the slaughter of an animal with a sharp knife is the least painful and most humane of all methods of killing, even more humane than the stunning method.
In the study several electrodes were surgically implanted at various points of the skulls of all animals under experiment, touching the surface of the brain. Some animals were then slaughtered, according to the Islamic method, by making a swift, deep incision with a sharp knife on the neck cutting the jugular vein and the carotid arteries as well as the trachea and esophagus. Other animals were stunned with the aid of a ‘Captive Bolt Pistol’ (CBP).
During the experiment an electroencephalograph (EEG) and an electrocardiogram (ECG) recorded the condition of the brains and the hearts of all the animals during the course of slaughter and stunning.
The results were as follows:
Slaughtering with a knife (The Islamic Method)
1. The first 3 seconds from the time of the slaughter (in the Islamic Method) as recorded on the EEG did not show any change from the graph before slaughter, thus indicating that the animal did not feel any recognisable pain during or after the incision.
2. During the following 3 second, the EEG recorded a condition of deep sleep-unconsciousness. This is due to the large quantity of blood gushing out of the body. The sudden and profuse bleeding from the incision on the neck causes a shock resulting in a state of unconsciousness due to severe shortage of blood supply to the vital centers located in the brain.
3. After the above-mentioned 6 seconds, the EEG recorded zero level, showing no feeling of pain at all.
4. As the brain message (EEG) dropped to zero level, the heart was still pounding and the body convulsing vigorously (a reflex action of the spinal cord) driving out a maximum amount of blood from the body, thus resulting in hygienic meat for the consumers.
Captive Bolt Pistol (CBP) Stunning Method
1. The animals were apparently unconscious soon after stunning.
2. But EEG showed severe pain immediately after stunning.
3. The hearts of animals stunned by CBP stopped beating earlier as compared to those of the animals slaughtered according to the Islamic method, resulting in the retention of more blood in the meat. This in turn is unhygienic for the consumer.
It is evident from the above-mentioned study that the Islamic slaughter of animals is a blessing to both the animal and not a pain. It may, however, be mentioned in this connection that the Islamic method insists on several measures to make the slaughter lawful.
The holy Prophet Muhammad’s (peace be upon him) emphatic declaration in this regard should be mentioned first. The holy Prophet (pbuh) said: “Allah calls for mercy in everything, so be merciful when you kill and when you slaughter: sharpen your blade to relieve its pain.”
According to a tradition transmitted by Muslim, the Apostle of Allah (pbuh) ordered a horned ram with black legs, a black belly and black round the eyes, and it was brought to him to be sacrificed. He told Bibi Ayesha Siddiqua (RA) to get the knife, and then told her to sharpen it with a stone. When she had done so he took it, then taking the ram he placed it on the ground and cut its throat.
The Islamic method indeed demands that the knife to be used for slaughtering animals must be sharp and used swiftly. The swift cut of vessels of the neck disconnects the flow of blood to the nerves in the brain responsible for pain. Thus the slaughtered animal feels no pain. The movements and withering of the different limbs of the animal after the incision is made are not due to pain, but due to the contraction and relaxation of the muscles deficient in blood. The convulsions are due to the contraction of the muscles in response to the lack of oxygen in the brain cells.
The Islamic method of slaughter is, therefore, the most humane and least painful method of killing animals.
THESE SAME GOOD BUDDHISTS ARE IN THE NEWS FOR KILLING THEIR OWN KIND.
DO THEY EVER THINK OF HUMANE METHODS.
THIS “HALAL ISSUE” IS JUST A “FACADE” FOR OTHER REASONS WHICH I
DO NOT WISH TO ELABORATE ON
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Citizen / February 23, 2013
Whether the results showed that the slaughter of an animal with a sharp knife is the least painful and most humane of all methods of killing or whether the first 3 seconds from the time of the slaughter (in the Islamic Method) as recorded on the EEG did not show any change and did not feel any recognisable pain, is absolutely baseless and non-sense. When an animal is led into the slaughter house, just watch the eyes of the animal with unoticed tears and the struggle to escape are signs of pain of feeling. Dind’t the housemaid Rizana struggle and shed tear before her head was chopped? Let us for a moment ask our conscience before action. I don’t think Lord Buddha or the Greek philosophers (considerable number of Greek philosophers are vegetarians) or even the great vegetarians would have accepted such theories. It is cruelty by all means.
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ramesi / February 24, 2013
We had our Hang House too and now we are training two for the reason please please citizen
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Citizen / February 24, 2013
The best thing is to abolish capital punishment like in Canada, UK, etc. No one has the right to take one’s life, even if he is an enemy. It is time that Sri Lanka too consider this. The best solution is rehabilitation. Cruelty can be performed through many forms. The root cause for all this mess up is lack of steps to eradicate poverty. Had that been taken properly for the exploitation of the available natural resources for the betterment of the country, such mishappenings will not occur. Countries like Canada, Australia, UK, Germany, etc are exploiting the natural resources for the benefit of the people no specific category of people is affected. God has provided natural resources to every region depending on the natural condition of the countries. Since the Western countries have realized this, no one is subject to cruel treatment. In the premises, why can’t these agents suggest some constructive ideas to prosper the country, instead of sending women as slaves. Even after the execution of Rizana, Saudi has executed Bangladeshi and Indonesian housemaids. One is able to see treatment of women as slaves as a business, flouting the human rights by taking undue advantage of eradicating poverty. Sri Lanka has a lot to learn from countries like Canada, England, Germany, etc., regarding the hygenic conditions of the food as well as recognizing the rights of citizens and compliance of laws. Compliance of laws is nil in Sri Lanka from top to bottom.
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ramesi / February 24, 2013
CITIZEN
YOU HAVE JUST OPENED UP YOUR MIND ITS HAS TO BE THEIR TAKE SINGAPORE FOR INSTANCE IF YOU ARE FOUND WITH A GUN O WITH DRUGS ABOVE 5GRAMS YOU SEND FOR CAPITAL PUNISHMENT FOR RAPE GANG FLIGHT THEY HAVE ROTTAN ITS KIDLY OF CANNING THE THE CANE IS DIP IN ACID N DONE U C HOW THE COUNTRY AS PROGRESSED NO CORRUPTION AT ANYLEVEL
REGARDS AGAIN TO YOUR COMMENT OF SLAVERY PLEASE GO DOWN SIT WITH THE DOMESTIC AIDS WHO HAVE WORKED AND RETURNED THEY WILL TELL HOW IMPROVEMENT THEY HAVE A ROOF OVER THE HEAD CAN OUR GOVT PROVIDE THEY JUST WASTE PUBLIC MONEY ON LIKES OF MININLANKA NITERACING AND BASEBALL THE POOR DOESN’T HAVE A PROPER MEAL A DAY U WALK DOWN THE PRESIDENT SECT C HOW MUCH FOOD TROWN IN BINS A WHOLE HEAP ITS WAT THEY ALL DEVELOPMENTS PLEASE FORGET ALL THESE HALAAL NON HALAAL JUST COME TO WHATS THE REALLY THING AND WHY ALL THESE JUST TO TURN US FROM THE DAY TO DAY LIFE LETS IT BE ANYBODY WE ARE SRI LANKAN AND WE LIVE LOVE AND SEE HOW THAT OUR COUNTRY GOING TO DEVELOP OUR MOTHERLAND LIVE AND LET LIVE IN HARMONY GOD BLESS ALL AND BLESS OUR MOTHERLAND STOP ALL THSES
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AYMAN / March 2, 2013
THEY HAVE VACATED POST. I WONDER WHY?????????
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AYMAN / February 27, 2013
IT WAS DONE BY A GERMAN SCIENTIST AND RESULTS CLEARLY EXPLAINED.
IF YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND I CANNOT HELP YOU.JUST KEEP OFF THE
DISCUSSION.
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Dr.Rajasingham Narendran / February 23, 2013
The cost of living is sky rocketing by the day. The fuel price increases announced today will set in motion another wave of price increases starting this evening. It is very likely the cost of electricity will be increased soon. However, there are no public protests or demonstrations against this. There is no organisation to shed tears over the plight of the poor in the country. The middle class, either is joining the league of the upper class through corruption, or if honest, joining the ranks of the poor.
The anti-Halal campaign at its zenith questioned why the non-Muslims have to pay for the cost of obtaining the Halal certification. That extra cost is nothing comparable to the increase in living costs in the past year.
We are a nation driven by extremism and irrationality. The real problems that are a burden and a blight on the majority of people in this country are nobody’s business. It is Karma!
Dr.Rajasingham Narendran
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ramesi / February 24, 2013
REALLY IT THE REASON TO CLOSE THE EYES BRING IN THIS TYPE OF THINGS TO DIVERT ALL
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Sonlight / February 23, 2013
Halal brand is for more sale and more profit for Muslim modalalyies.They will even sell the name of Allah and Nabi to make money.The Sinhala Mudalalies and their henchmen are now worried that that they lose their sales and profits of same goods.The vast majority of masses should not get caught to the trap of Nationalism.The political mudalalies know how to sell the religion and the ethnicity to make easy big profits.
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ramesi / February 24, 2013
ITS THE GROBLE TRADE WORTH SOME 2 TO 2.5 TRILLION DOLLARS
SINGAPORE AND THAILAND AS ITS OWN GOVT ORGIGINATION
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Nabil / February 25, 2013
Sonlight,
“Halal brand is for more sale and more profit for Muslim modalalyies.They will even sell the name of Allah and Nabi to make money.”
I guess this does’t happen among Bhuddists, that they don’t sell anything in the name of Gauthama Bhudda?
tut tut, Sonlight, what tact what decorum! May we see more like you so that we can get a measure of how decadent our society is!
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Kshama / February 24, 2013
As our son asked, will Wattalappan too be banned in Sri Lanka now?
And what about the Buriyani?
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Native Vedda / February 27, 2013
Kshama
First offer Buriyani and Wattalappan to the local saffron clad thug and then feed your family.
Next these thugs will ban couple sleeping together and expect the woman to sleep with them first in order to sexually cleanse the women after which the man could have the woman.
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Muliyawaikkal / February 25, 2013
Dear Singhala friends,
Halal foods and other foods are not different. Why this needless barrage of nonsense? No one is going to take away Buddhism which is in your hearts and minds. Get real.
Sri Lanka needs more animal protein. There are endless grass plains in Jaffna and Vanni areas. These areas have massive potential for beef production. As you know imported beef contains foot and mouth disease, horsemeat, etc. If we produce locally, we can save millions of dollars and feed people good nutrition. Please make use of grass lands in the north for producing the beef demand. It will give jobs and good money.
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Kshama Ranawana / February 25, 2013
Interestingly, the very people who decry the slaughter of animals, and who set them free from the slaughter house to obtain merit “ping”, are unconcerned when innocent people are killed or maimed. They remain immune when their countrymen are displaced, threatned, abducted. They remain unconcerned when the laws of the land are contravened to meet the greed of the power grabbing politicians.
They are so busy trying to make the lives of minorities miserable they don’t even notice that the lawmakers are taking away their own rights.
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The Professional / February 26, 2013
In the name of cultural diversity, which we all have no arguments with, I kindly request that a Standard Official Hand Book containing Halals and Harams of each race and religious group be prepared as a guide for those who are particular about Halals and Harams and be published by a Statutory Body comprising representatives of each race and religious group. Once the statute is passed in the legislature, the mandate given to ACJU to issue Halal Certificates should be revoked so that it will be Haram for BBS or ACJU or any other extremist group raise this issue separately.
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AYMAN / February 27, 2013
WE DO NOT NEED ANY CLARIFICATION.AS I REPEATEDLY SAY MUSLIMS KNOW THE PERMITTED AND THE PROHIBITED.
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Senguttuvan / February 27, 2013
Kshama,
“Interestingly, the very people who decry the slaughter of animals, and who set them free from the slaughter house – to obtain merit “ping”,
A close friend owns a “Madam” (or has rights for exclusive use)at the
Munneswaram Temple – the place where Kudu Mervin performed his theatrics. It was later found most of the released goats were commandeered by his own security men and gangsters on the way, slaughtered at different places, and consumed by their own near and dear. What great examples of Compassion by fighters against cruelty to animals. I am told the media too carried this information.
Senguttuvan
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AYMAN / February 27, 2013
THIS HAPPENS HERE TOO. COWS RELEASED TO GAIN MERIT ON POYA DAYS, LATER END UP IN THE SLAUGHTER HOUSE. SOME SUCKER WOULD HAVE DOLED OUT THE
MONEY EXPECTING NIRVANA .THESE ARE THE COWS STRAYING AND EATING UP OTHERS FLOWER PLANTS AND SHITTING EVERYWHERE. DUNG IS GOOD POHORA.
A SUCKER IS BORN EVERY SECOND.
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Marwan / February 28, 2013
One Vesak Poya day about 2 years ago, a pregnant cow was tied to a lamp-post at our junction, close to a famous A1 school, and the sponsor (known to everyone in the visinity, a local thug) was pleading for money to save the animal destined for slaughter. He managed to get more sympathy with it being a pregnant cow. Adverised price 40,000/=. After wesak was over, he came to our internet cafe under influence of liquor for some typing work. He wanted the Account Statement typed, printed and photocopied for distribution. It clearly occured to us that it was a farce pulled off on the good intending Sinhalese people, at the expense of the Muslim slaughter house. It indicated a shortfall of 12,000/=, which meant the animal could not be saved. However we know that money was spent on booze, since he and his notorious cohorts were drunkards. The poor hapless animal was scared stiff with all the crowds thronging to gaze (3 days) at it with sympathy. This was how he as a Buddhist capitalized on the occasion (Poya Wesak) to make a kill. I cannot vouch for what happened to the pregnant cow after Vesak was over.
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Nabil / February 27, 2013
Leela/ Citizen,
I am responding to a thread above where Leela has as usual left out the gist of my arguments, and responded with completely extraneous material which prompts this response.
The case of rape and the verdict of the village elders was challenged, media picked up the story including AL JAZEERA and BBC, and the mainstream papers in Dhaka as well as the UK news papers such as the Daily Mail and the Guardian.
The full force of the LAW was brought to bear on the perpetrators and justice meted out. The victim Mosammet Hena, 14, the cousin who raped her, Shilpi the rapis’t wife was also arrested, together with the rapist Mahbub.
The village elders councils are outlawed including fatwas and sharia law, yet function in remote villages. Please also note that the villagers themselves gathered at her home and protested the verdict of the Salish ( an elders council). the doctors who tried to cover up this issue too have been hauled over the coals.
The irony is that LEELA has access to all the information, yet wishes to portray Muslims in a poor light. Now I leave it to readers to judge who and what Leela is!
Please read the Daily Mail 3/2/2011 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1353234/Bangladesh-girl-14-whipped-dead-affair-married-man-rape-cousin.html
Thank you
Nabil
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AYMAN / February 27, 2013
WASTING PRECIOUS TIME IS HARAM. INDULGING IN RELIGIOUS PRACTICES IS HALAL
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George Fernandez / March 2, 2013
Being a Christian and a non Sri Lankan I can look at this issue in a non-passionate way. For people who talk about ‘humane’ halal slaughter I ask them to visit a slaughter house and see for themselves the brutality of halal slaughter. See for your eyes how the poor animal struggles after its neck is cut half way to drain blood out before it dies. See the pain and diecide for yourself. If you don’t have the courage to visit a halal slaughter house there are many videos on youtube. See the reaction of the animal after its throat is cut.
George
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AYMAN / March 3, 2013
THE HUMANE SLAUGHTER METHOD HAS BEEN EXPLAINED CLEARLY.
ABOUT THE SLAUGHTER ITSELF, ARE YOU A VEGETARIAN OR ARE YOU SUGGESTING SOME OTHER METHOD.
1. The first 3 seconds from the time of the slaughter (in the Islamic Method) as recorded on the EEG did not show any change from the graph before slaughter, thus indicating that the animal did not feel any recognisable pain during or after the incision.
2. During the following 3 second, the EEG recorded a condition of deep sleep-unconsciousness. This is due to the large quantity of blood gushing out of the body. The sudden and profuse bleeding from the incision on the neck causes a shock resulting in a state of unconsciousness due to severe shortage of blood supply to the vital centers located in the brain.
3. After the above-mentioned 6 seconds, the EEG recorded zero level, showing no feeling of pain at all.
4. As the brain message (EEG) dropped to zero level, the heart was still pounding and the body convulsing vigorously (a reflex action of the spinal cord) driving out a maximum amount of blood from the body, thus resulting in hygienic meat for the consumers.
I HOPE IT IS CLEAR.
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AYMAN / March 10, 2013
WHEN THE ARMY COMMANDER SARATH FONSEKA, WAS LEAVING ARMY HQRS,WHO TIPPED
OFF THE LTTE SUICIDE BOMBER-NOT A TAMIL OR MUSLIM .
WHO ARE PERSECUTING THE “HERO”- ??????????
THE LORRY-LOAD OF EXPLOSIVES BROUGHT TO COLOMBO,FOR THE CENTRAL BANK
BOMBING WAS PARKED IN A BUDDHIST TEMPLE FOR THE NIGHT.
PLEASE DO NOT GENERALIZE AND SAY ALL MUSLIMS ARE CRIMINALS
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lankanese / March 10, 2013
I haven’t contributed any opinion on this forum, but today I enjoyed reading every comment; please note some points I noticed in the forum: 1)the word Biriyani is correct NOT Buriyani. 2) Ramesi your engligh language needs some fine tuning please.
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EINSTEIN / March 12, 2013
WELL, MR.RIZWIE, C.E.O.,A.C.J.U./HALAL CERTIFICATION ORG. HAS FINALLY
GIVEN IN OR BEEN BOUGHT OVER BY B.B.S.
THE B.B.S CANNOT TOLERATE THE WORD HALAL ON ANY PRODUCT BEING SOLD IN THE COUNTRY, BUT WANT “HALAL” CERTIFICATION FOR EXPORTS.OBVIOUSLY IT IS ALL ABOUT MONEY.
THE ORDINARY MUSLIM(THERE ARE NO CLERICS AND LAYMEN) ARE NOT GOING TO
ACCEPT THIS.WE KNOW WHAT TO EAT AND WE WILL BOYCOTT, PRODUCTS, WHERE
THIS DUAL SYSTEM OPERATES. DAMN HYPOCRISY OF BOTH THE ACJU AND B.B.S.
THERE IS ONE THING LEFT FOR RIZWIE,
AND HIS All Ceylon Jokers Union (A.C.J.U.) TO THROW AWAY THEIR CAPS,
SHED THEIR CLOTHING,SHAVE THEIR BEARDS, SHAVE THEIR HEADS, GET INTO SAFFRON ,BROWN OR BURGUNDY ROBES AND JOIN THE BADU BALU SENA.
THEN ALL THE JOKERS WILL BE IN “ONE PACK”
NEXT PROBLEM WILL BE A NAME FOR THIS COMBINE!!!!
THEY CAN CALL THEMSELVES THE “SRI LANKA JOKERS SAMAGAMA”
NOW WE COME TO SELECTING THE LEADER. WHICH AS USUAL IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IN THIS PARADISE ISLE. SIMPLE MY DEAR WATSON!!!!
SURELY !!THERE SHOULD BE A VENERABLE RAJAPAKSE AVAILABLE.
PROBLEM SOLVED.
Q.E.D.
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