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Violence Directed Against The Muslims & Other “Minority” Communities 

By Upatissa  Pethiyagoda

Dr. Upatissa Pethiyagoda

With Hitler, Prabakaran, Dictatorships, LTTE and Sinhala Buddhism cluttering political discourse, and a visible resurgence of indiscipline, things do not portend well for integration, reconciliation and progress. Hypocrisy all round us is dominant. The terror unleashed and suffered by the previous dispensation and the nearly thirty-year period of extreme horror, have apparently not taught us much. The rumblings of imminent disaster are all too real. Incendiary and hateful speech is still prevalent. No sector is innocent. Prompt action is vital.

We marked the end of the Moslems holy month of Ramadan fasting. Eid al Fitr celebrates the occasion with Ifthar Banquets .Our political big-shots rivaled each other in hosting the event at the plushest hotels. The hospitality is not of the host but on State (that is yours and mine) Funds. It should be an opportunity to reflect upon the place of Muslims within the World Order and how it impacts on us.

In so doing, we can only deplore the violence directed some  time ago at the Muslim community, beginning with the Aluthgama and Durga Town incidents, and surfacing subsequently at Kalkudah, Digana, Akurana and other places in proximity to Kandy. While condemning this barbaric behavior most vehemently, we may re-visit these events to seek possible reasons that may underlie the violence. Mercifully, the heat has subsided. Complacency cannot be allowed to obscure reality, and the incidents should serve as an opportunity to realistically assess the causes and seek possible remedies. However painful, this is the only rational way to heal the wounds, dispel misconceptions and prevent recurrence. It is simply unwise to ignore the causes for this enmity and pretend that nothing untoward has happened. This will only mean that we trot along to the next disaster.

Signs are that rumblings are still there and could lead to disaster if not addressed urgently and vigorously curbed. If the media is correct, there are dark hints. As usual, politicians are the main culprits. In Jaffna there are moves to prevent alleged settlement of Sinhala persons, in Wilpattu, protected lands are being raped to accommodate Muslims displaced by LTTE terrorists and we are told of similar attempts elsewhere.     

All too often, violence erupts from fears, real or imagined. The inconvenient reality is that perceptions and prejudice often over-ride facts and figures.  Popular perceptions are often wrong and supported by questionable “evidence”. While rejecting the plainly absurd – such as the male sterility story, it is only reasonable that other concerns be sensibly addressed. In our context, it must be admitted that certain practices could inflame emotions among misguided zealots, ever ready to exploit an over-heated opportunity. In this matter, a major responsibility lies with the Moslem Leadership. They should, jointly with representatives of the majority community, seek sensible ways to eliminate any provocative factors that may have prompted the resort to violence. It must be admitted that some anxieties and ill-will do exist. This is an attempt to identify some potential flash points – whether justified or not.

It has been pointed out that one of the worst things that a minority wishing to integrate with a majority could do, is to set itself apart by residence (Ghettos), dress, occupation or custom. Thus Moslem ladies who identify themselves by black uniform cloaks, Hindus with ash or pottus on foreheads, while perfectly within their rights, may be seen by misguided extremists as an alien threat. Particularly during periods of heightened emotion, a genuine bonding with the majority would be prudent insurance.

It is worth reflecting on the existence in all religions, the twin factors of philosophy (or content) and ritual (or symbolism). Buddhism labels them as “Prathipatti puja” (respect to  the teachings: spiritual) and “Amisa Puja” (adherence to custom: material). These are not mutually exclusive, but more correctly, symbiotic or even synergistic.  There is remarkable congruence and commonality in the underlying rules of conduct laid down in the different religions that we profess. They are best encapsulated in the universal injunction, “Do unto others as you will that others do unto you”.

As a Buddhist, I feel more at ease being critical of my own. In our tutoring, we often learn to parrot Stanzas (or Gathas), without an understanding of what they mean. I have been made aware that in his final words, addressed to Bhikkhu Ananda, he said “The best homage to the Buddha is to follow the Dhamma” .It is incumbent on the Buddhists to critically examine our present day practices in the light of this advice. The Kalama Suthra was also a brilliant exposition of the true role of custom and teaching. In a remarkable exposition of enlightenment, the Buddha was bold enough to encourage critical evaluation of even his own teachings. There is thus no such concept as “blasphemy”. How much more liberal can anyone get? 

The Mahanayakas spend much of their time advising sundry panjandrums on how to ru(i)n this country, when they would do much better to step out to discipline the hooligans who dishonor the sanctity of The Order and that of the Robe.  In their wisdom they must see that they are being dangerously pawned for political advantage.

It is evident that encouragement of ritual practices benefit established Ecclesiastical institutions. But Bhikkhus assuming the Robe of their own will, reject attachment to worldly possessions – except in so far as they provide their modest material needs and thus help develop the virtue of sacrifice. Beyond this, it blurs into avarice.

There is a compelling argument for schools to teach Comparative Religion, leaving the choice to the student on reaching the stage of understanding. This will considerably reduce enmity arising from fears of proselytization, unfair and insulting Evangelism, vandalism of images, statues and places of worship. Hopefully, this will also drive home the point that Common Humanity is much more real than religious label. All religions teach moral conduct, while only the rationale, the path and the goal may differ. Does this matter much and is this difference reason enough to kill each other? 

World opinion

It is a reality that Muslem immigrants fleeing terror have provoked reaction in several parts of the World, and that much seemingly plausible material, rapidly infiltrates the Internet. Examples such as from Japan, the US, Australia, Some European States and elsewhere, often backed by presumably valid data, are often identified as countries seeking to counter “the threat”. Many countries, particularly in Europe are troubled by immigrant influxes and possible future demographic distortions. Demands for Shariah Law, involvements in terror attacks such as 9/11, opening of allegedly indoctrinating Madrassas do not help assimilation into host communities. While followers of Islam are not all terrorists, but a distressingly large proportion of terrorists profess to be Islamists. Extreme radical, militarist groups such as Al Queda, Wahabis, ISIS and other such assemblies are feared specters.

Dress Codes

While the choice of how one wishes to dress is entirely the right of the individual, any that blatantly distinguish one from others can be provocative. It becomes much worse when the garb identifies with militant groups. The perceptible increase in the number of women wearing black full body outer garments that provide only narrow slits for vision, has recently grown hugely. The wisdom in so arousing resentment or fear is a matter for the Muslim leadership to guide. Just as much as a uniform sets apart members of the Armed Forces or the Police as symbols of authority, so also do they make themselves a target for hostile forces.  

The Halal issue and Humane Slaughter

Some time ago, the issue of “Halal” labeling of foods threatened to unleash violence. It was sometimes used in a senseless way – for example on bottles of water, soda, and packets of salt! But, sadly in the case of animals slaughtered for meat, the archaic and cruel practice of slitting the throat and bleeding the animal to a painful death, has escaped attention. The historical reason may have been that the blood in the carcass would hasten spoilage. This would have been of help to serve nomadic desert tribes, before the advent of refrigerated storage and rapid transport. This is an area where Muslim clerics could educate their flock that this practice may be irrelevant in this age when humane methods are available. It is obligatory to be conscious of the feelings of all sentient beings and to refrain from inflicting needless pain. These have more a flavor of barbaric practices than religious compulsions. 

The justification of many practices ( Shariah Law, Muslim marriage and rights of women, female circumcision, ritual Animal Slaughter, Madrassas and loud calls to prayer), is that they are part of Koranic or other teachings. This is an issue for Muslim Clerics and other authorities to sort out among themselves. It has to be realized that religious practices and traditions, like all else have to change with the times. Islam particularly as the youngest of the major religions, has reason to be the most enlightened, adaptive and modernistic.

As Social (and Economic) Threat

Much of the prejudice is unfair but real perceptions and demands should be properly addressed. The major concerns are Demographic Shifts – by high Birth Rates, economic monopoly, tendency to establish communal Ghettos and intolerance of other faiths. All of these are amenable to fair resolution. Here again, it is the responsibility of the Muslim leadership to address these suspicions fairly and provide means for their correction, or grounds for their denial. The Muslim Political Parties are more a problem than a solution. Their tendency to fragment into sub-groups is also unhelpful.  Issues such as Wilpattu naturally inflame feelings (Religious and Conservationist) and it is imperative that the leadership addresses fairly, this festering canker. Discriminatory behavior should be sensitive and subordinate to the national interest. Names that connote minorities (such as Tamil Union, Moors Sports Club, Muslim Congress etc) should change to ones suggesting cohesion, assimilation and unity. The Sinhalese Sports Club should set the lead. These may look like trivialities, but together with others, they would collectively encouraged Unity, integration and friendship.

Although the original intent was to focus on violence directed at the Muslim community, a few remarks applicable generally may not be out of place. There are rumblings in the North and East of our country that bring to mind the dire consequences of ignoring such signs and failing to take timely action to neutralize them. Nearly thirty years of the LTTE insurrection caused dreadful distress and cost to all. Victors should avoid triumphalism and display magnanimity, particularly on the vanquished. The moral compulsion on the majority community is intense. When Mr.Wigneswaran, a former Supreme Court Judge, who has spent his life among the Sinhalese, was chosen to be the Chief Minister of the North, there was immense hope. Sadly, this has been totally betrayed as he has proved to be as bad as the worst, in addition to having done little for the Northern citizenry. Resurgence of criminal groups such as AAVA, and reports from Intelligence sources, must be taken very seriously and resolute action taken to quash such forces. In the long run, this would be most economical both in monetary terms and potential human misery. The visible breakdown of discipline all round, is frightening.

The above comments, although focusing mainly on the current tensions worries of the Muslims, are equally applicable to others. The majority Sinhala Buddhists community has a special responsibility to be magnanimous as hosts or partners. Properly managed, this country has ample resources for us all.

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    Dear Dr. Upatissa Pethiyagoda.

    “Thus Moslem ladies who identify themselves by black uniform cloaks, Hindus with ash or pottus on foreheads, while perfectly within their rights, may be seen by misguided extremists as an alien threat”
    — By other words, you are insulting SL, its Law and Order and a bit on majority community here as if putting it in the list of, “Dangerous places to practice your own rights” (I am a Muslim and I don’t damn care about this black abaya or wear one, FYI)

    “Muslem immigrants fleeing terror have provoked reaction in several parts of the World”
    — Let’s talk about our own case here, why did tens of thousands of Tamils migrate to other countries? Are you going to say, “our misguided extremists didn’t like their pottus on foreheads, so we denied their rights that ended up in a civil war”?

    Did you realize that you are trying to achieve peace by suppressing minority communities? What sort of a civilized approach it is to ask someone give up their rights because the extremist elements wants you to do so? And this comes from one of the highly educated professors in the society

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      Madam Fathima
      Government must appoint a committee to study how religious minorities in Muslim majority countries are treated and adopt similar laws in Sri Lanka in respect of our Muslims. Wouldn’t that completely eliminate any apprehensions of Muslims?. Can anything be fairer than that?

      Soma

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        soma,
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        I am with you soma, please do whatever it takes to cure this apprehensions issue. An average Sri Lankan has too many things to worry on a day-to-day basis, and it is unfair if you have an additional item on your heads. Sure you should address this to the govt :-)

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          Madam Fathima
          In your opinion what is the best Muslim majority country we should emulate in respect of treatment of other religious minorities?. This will help me in preparation of my formal request to the government.

          Soma

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            Soma,
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            Tunisia, Indonesian, Malaysia, Senegal, Albania, Sierra Leone etc are to name a few countries with Muslim majority “Republics” with higher Civil Liberties and PR rating than SL. There are lower rating as well, but will follow someone better than us. Compare a Republic with another, not with an Islamic Rep or an absolute monarchy. And be thankful to those countries for being monarchies so that we still have our workers an opportunity, the core income to our economy rather than pointing their faults.
            .

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            somass

            I am sorry I will have to remind you again a few lines from Kaniyan Poongundran, Purananuru – 192 (Adapted from translation by G.U.Pope, 1906) again:

            யாதும் ஊரே யாவரும் கேளிர்
            தீதும் நன்றும் பிறர்தர வாரா
            நோதலும் தணிதலும் அவற்றோ ரன்ன
            சாதலும் புதுவது அன்றே, வாழ்தல்
            இனிதென மகிழ்ந்தன்றும் இலமே முனிவின்
            இன்னா தென்றலும் இலமே

            To us all towns are our own, everyone our kin,
            Life’s good comes not from others’ gifts, nor ill,
            Pains and pain’s relief are from within,
            Death’s no new thing, nor do our bosoms thrill
            When joyous life seems like a luscious draught.

            Not to worry if you don’t get the gist of the poem, it usually take years of learning and liberal background to begin to understand the versus.

            By the way why are you still sending your women folks to medieval middle east countries if you haven’t got a clue about them?

            You should clear your doubts with those Muslims/Arabs who visit this country purely for seeking pleasure.

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        soma,

        “Government must appoint a committee to study how religious minorities in Muslim majority countries are treated and adopt similar laws in Sri Lanka”

        Before you can scratch your back like others do, you need to grow some nails brother..

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          Abdul Kader

          somass and his ilks always draw experiences from other countries like Singapore, USA, Europe, ……………. as to how they treat minorities and their share and scale of war crimes perpetrated in rest of the world.
          However these born and practicing racists with fascist inclinations, never compare their poor record on economic, political, scientific, standards of living, ………………. achievements with those countries from which they seek justification for their notorious records on human rights, nepotism, impunity, ………… .

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      FATHIMA: I don’t know what your Stand is. Do not blame the people who inform you. In every country inthe world, Muslims use the Democratic rules to spread Islam. The worst is destroying the country’s estab;ished culture. That is fair if you allow the same in Islamic (WAhabi) countries. That is why Wahabism must be eliminated. It is extremist, Very violent and .is not conducive to social harmony. Because, Wajabis Eliminate the Majority culture. There are non- extremist versions of Islam. Now people do not like all of them because of one group.

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        JD,
        You can add this also. There is a Sinhala news item recently that some Muslim youths have climbed on a Buddhist Vihara in Auradhapura which is considered as a sacred place for Buddhism and took photos of themselves while standing on the roof (Thoobi). Some Buddhist priests and the National Front Organizer, Suresh Karunatilleke have lodged complaints at the Police Station regarding this matter. Muslim Youths also should know their limits. They should not insult and disgrace religious sites. They have even placed these photos on their Facebooks. I think this is unacceptable. Even I have seen their Facebooks. We should respect other religious culture.

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          Ayathuray Rajasingam,
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          You are a typical Tamil who knows to ride the tuk-tuk in any given gap to your own benefit, just like how TNA used the opportunity of 26th October stupidity of Maithri.

          Usually, Muslims don’t do it, even if you are sure about this rare incident, it might be one in million incident. Still this is not an incident compared to how you guys bombed one of the sacred Buddhist temple.

          What you must be asking yourselves is, what has Buddhist temple got to do with your Eelam war? What have those innocent and poor men, women and children whom you bobmed to kill got to do with your Eelam war?

          Muslims and Sinhalese are not dangerous. But you guys are too dangerous venoms since you never forget and are ready to take revenge on enemy even after centuries.

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            Abdul Kader,
            I have better links with Muslims, I think than you. There are some decent Muslims like Dr.Ameer Ali on whom I have great respect. This was a news item. If you have any doubts, why not inquire from the Police Station and from Suresh Karunatilleke. These are Muslim students from the Engineering students from a University. I have some doubts who had demolished both Buddhist and Hindu statutes. Do you know why the IPKF razed Kaththankudy to the ground. These are symptoms of the influence of ISIS. Do not bring Eelam War because I too was against the LTTE. We still regard the Sinhalese as our brothers & sisters. We are not opportunists.

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              Abdul Kader,
              The news is now that those seven Muslim youths have been arrested and actions have been taken to file a case.

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      If women can dress and be
      hall.naked and free to do it.
      why deny freedom to dress
      modestly. It is disgusting
      to see non muslim women
      wearing tight jeans and
      pants and T shirts, with
      bulging breasts and plum
      buttocks. What makes it
      worse mothers and daughters
      dress like this.

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        Eng.Ismaeel Marikar, you poor, poor, thing. Have you not heard yet? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder – if you do not like the sight of bulging breasts and plum buttocks, look away. Avert your gaze! Do men who wear tight trousers with bulging crotches, and tight shirts with nipples outlined, also come in for your opprobrium?

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        Why do you have to worry about them. Weren’t men and women naked in by-gone eras.If you don’t like to see you should foll
        the Muslim women and cover your face and eyes.

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        Eng.Ismaeel Marikar;
        Why are you so obsessed with a Woman’s “bulging breasts and plum
        buttocks.”?
        There is so much more to a Woman, including her Intelligence!

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      Dr. Upatissa Pethiyagoda

      RE: Violence Directed Against The Muslims & Other “Minority” Communities

      “With Hitler, Prabakaran, Dictatorships, LTTE and Sinhala Buddhism cluttering political discourse, and a visible resurgence of indiscipline, things do not portend well for integration, reconciliation and progress. Hypocrisy all round us is dominant. The terror unleashed and suffered by the previous dispensation and the nearly thirty-year period of extreme horror, have apparently not taught us much. The rumblings of imminent disaster are all too real. Incendiary and hateful speech is still prevalent. No sector is innocent. Prompt action is vital”

      “While condemning this barbaric behavior most vehemently, we may re-visit these events to seek possible reasons that may underlie the violence. “

      Yes, Prompt action and Rule of Law and Justice is vital The Law and Order has broken down, and the Para-Sinhala “Buddhist” criminals getting off, with the blessings of the state

      This is all about tribalism Para-Sinhala-“Buddhist” Tribalism, against the Para-Tamil Hindu Tribalism and the Para-Muslin Tribalism, because the Para-Sinhala “Buddhists’ are now a majority in the Lad of Native Veddah Aethho, they stole from them The Paras came from Southern and Eastern India to the Land of Native Veddah Aethho

      The Para-Sinhala “Buddhists” now want to assert their Para-Ethnicity and Para-beliefs on others and show their hegemony This does not bode well for all the Paras in the Land, especially the Para-Tamils and the Para-Muslims

      The Para-Muslims are affected because they have elected to be different from the rest of the Paras from their dress codes, especially women, based on 7th century Arabian desert culture, on the mistaken belief that this will get them to heaven, if there is one, and if there is afterlife Besides, what is there for the women? 72 Virgins ( Quran 78:33, Full breasted companions)

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        Mr. Amarasiri Going through your comment here I feel your are very good Historian & archeologist. Can you just tell me Meaning of word VEDDA you used here. Is it a Sinhalese word or ELU word. Can you just explain to me Mr. Amarasiri. As per the language I spoken in my childhood in my Native place VEDDAA is past tense. VEDDA is present tense. Like If young women run away with a boy without parent consent her father’s message to his relative is ” Jeevithata Okiva Apey Sanuharata vedda ganna Epa” meaning ” Never let her to come to our society or our clan’ with that example please let me know perfect meaning of that word. In my childhood I understood That word is proto Sinhalese or ELU word. can you clarify on this please.

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          Ranjith(SPRRW) ,

          1,. “Can you just tell me Meaning of word VEDDA you used here. Is it a Sinhalese word or ELU word.:”

          Vedda, also spelled Veddah, people of Sri Lanka who were that island’s aboriginal inhabitants prior to the 6th century BCE.

          The Vedda (Sinhalese: වැද්දා [ˈvædːaː], Tamil: வேடர் Vēdar) are a minority indigenous group of people in Sri Lanka who, among other self-identified native communities such as Coast Veddas, Anuradhapura Veddas and Bintenne Veddas,[are accorded indigenous status. The Veddha minority in Sri Lanka is in threat of becoming extinct.Most speak Sinhala instead owing to near-extinction of their indigenous languages.

          Veddas, along with the Island’s Buddhist, Hindu and Muslim communities, venerate the temple complex situated at Kataragama, showing the syncretism that has evolved over 2,000 years of coexistence and assimilation. Kataragama is supposed to be the site where the Hindu god Skanda or Murugan in Tamil met and married a local tribal girl, Valli, who in Sri Lanka is believed to have been a Vedda

          2. Vedda, probably originates from Sanskrit, which may mean forest dwellers. However, they are also referred to as Adivasi, aks Native Veddh Aethoo (people).

          3. ” Jeevithata Okiva Apey Sanuharata vedda ganna Epa” meaning ” Never let her to come to our society or our clan’

          Here Vedda ganna Epa, means do not take her back, do not accept her. This happens when an upper caste marries a lower caste or from another unacceptable community.,

          At least in Sri Lanka, they do not have Honor Killings.

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            The word Veda has nothing to do with Sanskrit ( are you one of these people who believe everything is from Sanskrit?) It is derived from the Tamil word “Vettai “meaning to hunt. Traditionally the Vedar live in the forest and hunt.

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              Siva Sankaran Sharma,

              Muttaal, this ugly and dying Tamil language derived many words from Sanskrit

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                ghk

                I am glad to hear we have finally found a linguist among the readership who has specialised in comparative languages.
                Well could you tell us how many words in Sanskrit were derived from Tamil? Perhaps Sanskrit’s origin can be traced to Champika’s old Sinhala or Arab.

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              I always believed that ‘Veddho’ means The People who Shoot;
              ‘Viddha’ is the past tense of Vidhinava! Which in Sinhala means – To shoot with Bow and Arrow!
              The Veddahs call themselves “?? Aeththo”. Veddah is a name given by later immigrants!

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              Siva Sankaran Sharma / January 22, 2019
              (296 words)

              Amarasiri commented:

              “2. Vedda, probably originates from Sanskrit, which may mean forest dwellers. However, they are also referred to as Adivasi, aks Native Veddh Aethoo (people).”

              Siva Sankaran Sharma, commented:

              “The word Veda has nothing to do with Sanskrit ( are you one of these people who believe everything is from Sanskrit?) It is derived from the Tamil word “Vettai “meaning to hunt. Traditionally the Vedar live in the forest and hunt.”

              Looks like you had some very bad Para-Tamil teachers, but this is frequently the case. Also true for Para-Sinhala teachers as well. Some teachers still claim that the Sun goes around the Earth. However, let’s see what S. U. Deraniyagala , an expert on Vedda history had to say.

              The Veddas are proud of their distinct heritage and call themselves “Vannialettho”, which means “those of the forest”. The term “Vedda” was donated by the Sinhala neighbors. The word “Vedda” comes from the Sanskrit language, “Vyadda”, which means a hunter with a bow and arrow. The pure Veddas, unlike the Sinhala who speak Indo-Aryan ( Indo-Iranian) language, are related to the Austro-Asiatic people found scattered today in many parts of Southern Asia.

              http://www.ijsrp.org/research-paper-0417/ijsrp-p6405.pdf

              Mitochondrial DNA history of Sri Lankan ethnic people: Their relations within the island and with the Indian subcontinental populations

              https://www.researchgate.net/publication/258335458_Mitochondrial_DNA_history_of_Sri_Lankan_ethnic_people_Their_relations_within_the_island_and_with_the_Indian_subcontinental_populations

              Through a comparison with the mtDNA HVS-1 and part of HVS-2 of Indian database, both Tamils and Sinhalese clusters were affiliated with Indian subcontinent populations than Vedda people who are believed to be the native population of the island of Sri Lanka.Journal of Human Genetics advance online publication, 7 November 2013

              Tamils and Sinhala are Para-Tamils and Para-Sinhala, in the land of Native (Veddah) Aethho. Veddah claimed the Land FIRST, and are Natives.

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              Siva Sankaran Sharma / January 22, 2019
              (296 words)

              Amarasiri commented:

              “2. Vedda, probably originates from Sanskrit, which may mean forest dwellers. However, they are also referred to as Adivasi, aks Native Veddh Aethoo (people).”

              Siva Sankaran Sharma, commented:

              “The word Veda has nothing to do with Sanskrit ( are you one of these people who believe everything is from Sanskrit?) It is derived from the Tamil word “Vettai “meaning to hunt. Traditionally the Vedar live in the forest and hunt.”
              Looks like you had some very bad Para-Tamil teachers, but this is frequently the case. Also true for Para-Sinhala teachers as well. Some teachers still claim that the Sun goes around the Earth. However, let’s see what S. U. Deraniyagala , an expert on Vedda history had to say.

              The Veddas are proud of their distinct heritage and call themselves “Vannialettho”, which means “those of the forest”. The term “Vedda” was donated by the Sinhala neighbors. The word “Vedda” comes from the Sanskrit language, “Vyadda”, which means a hunter with a bow and arrow. The pure Veddas, unlike the Sinhala who speak Indo-Aryan ( Indo-Iranian) language, are related to the Austro-Asiatic people found scattered today in many parts of Southern Asia.

              http://www.ijsrp.org/research-paper-0417/ijsrp-p6405.pdf

              Mitochondrial DNA history of Sri Lankan ethnic people: Their relations within the island and with the Indian subcontinental populations

              https://www.researchgate.net/publication/258335458_Mitochondrial_DNA_history_of_Sri_Lankan_ethnic_people_Their_relations_within_the_island_and_with_the_Indian_subcontinental_populations

              Through a comparison with the mtDNA HVS-1 and part of HVS-2 of Indian database, both Tamils and Sinhalese clusters were affiliated with Indian subcontinent populations than Vedda people who are believed to be the native population of the island of Sri Lanka.Journal of Human Genetics advance online publication, 7 November 2013

              Tamils and Sinhala are Para-Tamils and Para-Sinhala, in the land of Native (Veddah) Aethho. Veddah claimed the Land FIRST, and are Natives.

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                Amarasiri,
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                Bravo, the very same is the case with aborgines tribe in Australia.
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                Just our people SINHALAYA to put above the altar has been made by some idiots in the past. Even today they abuse it to the core sometimes akin to the manner JEWs do it in Palastina. None of us SINHALA and TAMILS should attack each other calling it belongs to us in clear text. There are tamils lived since long ago in the country, even if BP Extremists make every effort to bring misinterpretation keeping them above.
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                Also the fact that SO CALLED BUDDHAWANSA not being subjected to any kin of revisions over the centuries have paved the way those extremists forces to cement what they believe is right.
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                Today, the worst in this country are the ones that are hidden behind SAFRON robes. They have no shame to grab food and other priviledges from GULLIBLE masses, let alone, not repaying for it, they just make any MISLEADING statements being close to racists of Rajakakshe nature.
                :
                I am also a born buddhst as many other buddhists in the country, but uniqueness is that I dont belong to the commonality that lick the bo trees, if BP Rajapkashe would have been doing it, not kneel down before SKIN HEADS just because they wear SAFRON robes, not strolling around a lifeless Bo tree and for watering until its roots would turn out to be rotten, not observing sil as the average would follow, just not wearing PIRITH chanted threads around their body parts, nor would taste PIRITH water, just because they were prepared after being subjected to pirith chants of the afore mentioned monks.

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            Yes Thank you.I can understand your knowlege on Sinhala. Do not Talk bullshit. You tamil do not know sinhala or proto sinhala ELU. but talk like pundith. get lost man. There is no community called VEDDA live here but VEDDAA live here. ONES who went to Bedda or Jungle for living called VEDDAA.They are Austra asiatics just like Sinhalese. TAmil is a derivative of PROTO darvadian that came to Godavary around 6 or 7 thousand years ago. at that time Lanka & India seperated by sea. It is clearly visible if you go through Ramayanaya. It was compiled by around seven thousand years ago.Sanskrite too were cam to India around same time. as such ELU did not have any influances from Sanskrite or Darvadians. veddaa people have been living here for more than 3 hundred thousand years with same Identity doing hunting & gethering. Ones who gone (VEDDAA)to Bedda (jungle). Amarasiri do not walk under sun shine. It may effect your so called excellent brain.Get lost man. You tamil paraya do not have rights to talk on our Sinhala. It is our duty. That Ahikuntikaya too is same. he knows nothing. but boats like Brahamin. Tamil society pricets were called Parayalas or some thing like that. not as brahamins.When North Indian brahamin lady married to South Indian Parayal. all tried to get Brahamin Identity. Have a Nice day Para muslim Demala + Afgen Amarasiri. In sinhala people like you called Avajathakayas. Tamil mother or prostitude who slept with Afgen soldiers.When Delhi sultanate in power together with sultanate in the south founded by captian Akil Malik Indian but against Hindunism.due to his low cast Identity.

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        Amarasiri:- Try to live in the Present.
        Science and Anthropologists have discovered that Humans i.e. Homo Sapiens, started their Evolution in Africa. All Humans shared a common Origin before they spread around the Earth!
        So how can you say that any Designated Land belongs to any One, Native Ethnic Group?
        If you analyse the DNA of ‘Veddahs’ you will find that they have affinities to all other Ethnicities of Our Earth!
        So Amarasiri come down to Earth and learn a little bit more about Homo Sapiens, before claiming that you and the Veddahs are of Unique Ancestry!
        Maybe your Religion claims that Your ‘God’ brought Humans from another Planet and gave Them this Land, as Her First Occupants!

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          Rationalist

          “If you analyse the DNA of ‘Veddahs’ you will find that they have affinities to all other Ethnicities of Our Earth!”

          Could we have details of all such studies.

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            Native Vedda; Analyse your Own DNA and you will find your Answer!

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              Rationalist

              Why should I waste money and time on Western devises? Instead I rather stick to Mahawamsa stories.

              Could we have details of all such studies.

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                Native Vedda;
                Are you Serious when you say:-
                “Instead I rather stick to Mahawamsa stories.”?
                Thought you had more Intelligence than that!!

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          Rationalist,

          Amarasiri is well aware that home sapiens outside Africa migrated from East Africa between 70,000 and 100,000 pears ago. In addition, those home sapiens have Neanderthal and Denisovan genes, which the Africans lack.

          The Vedda genetics is different. They walked and claimed their land, the Land of Native Veddah Aethho, well over 16,000 years ago. All the subsequent illegal arrivals are Paras. Just read on the reply to Siva Sharma.

          The land of Native Veddah Aethho is the home of the Aethho, not the Paras.

          The Paras home is India, Bharat.

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        Amarasiri

        This is another recycled article published in CT before on
        SEPTEMBER 13, 2018

        Violence Directed Against The Muslim & Other “Minority” Communities
        By Upatissa Pethiyagoda

        Are you napping while on guard?

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          Native Vedda,

          “Are you napping while on guard?”

          In the Land illegally occupied by the Paras from India, Bharat, Damba-Diva, with a mean IQ of 79, there are simply too many of them. Just see how many in this thread alone.

          Can somebody get a Sirisena-Modi pact, so that at least the Paras with IQ’s below 79, in the First Phase be sent back tio their o,eland India, Bharat, Damba-Diva, including Sirisena, so that they can reunite with their cousins,

          At least they will NOT be referred to as Paras, as they will be in their Homeland.

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      Dr. Upatissa Pethiyagoda

      “The terror unleashed and suffered by the previous dispensation and the nearly thirty-year period of extreme horror, have apparently not taught us much. “

      No wonder you aren’t learning because you could only see through Sinhala/Buddhist filter, you want to see what you want to see, you want to remember what you want to remember, … you want type what you want to type, …. and you want to teach what you want to teach, ……………….

      Well you type “hings do not portend well for integration, reconciliation and progress. “

      Could anyone define and explain what integration, reconciliation and progress mean to the ordinary people who have suffered not only from the war, but since 1948.

      Integration – Sinhala/Buddhisisation of “OTHERS”.
      Reconciliation – letting the dominant (numerically) people to have priority on allocation of political power, resources, opportunities, the right to life long impunity, ………..
      Progress – how rapidly can the country hit bottom.

      “The majority Sinhala Buddhists community has a special responsibility to be magnanimous as hosts or partners. “

      Magnanimous –
      generous, charitable, benevolent, beneficent, open-handed, big-hearted, great-hearted, munificent, bountiful, liberal, handsome, princely, altruistic, kind, kindly, philanthropic, chivalrous, noble; unselfish, selfless, self-sacrificing, ungrudging, unstinting; forgiving, merciful, lenient, indulgent, clement

      Sinhala Buddhists community doesn’t need to be Magnanimous.
      However if it could stop being a greedy lot and let the people enjoy their rights, such as dignity, liberty, equality, brotherhood, the right to life and the prohibition of slavery and torture, freedom of movement, …………………………………

      Pontificating is the much easiest of all activities, however the Doctor needs to make sure his mind, words, and actions are clean and impartial before he starts typing in these pages. This is not the first time had scored his own goal for his Sinhala/Buddhist flock.

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    Dress Codes

    Manmohan Singh, with his turban beard was the 13th Prime Minister of India. Born in Gah now in Punjab, Pakistan- The visible breakdown of discipline all round, is not frightening.

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    Dear Dr. Upatissa Pethiyagoda,
    You have stated that in Jaffna there are moves to prevent alleged settlement of Sinhala persons. I think that no one (Including politicians) will object to any Sinhala person coming and settling on his own in Jaffna. It is the Government’s move to bring Sinhala persons from the south and settle (Colonize) in Jaffna that is being objected to.
    If you or anyone argue that the Sinhala persons who were displaced due to war from Jaffna are being settled back in Jaffna, what about the Tamil persons displaced from the south (Places like Panadura, Kalutara, Galle, Matara, Horana etc:) since 1956. Is the Government trying to settle those Tamil persons back in those places. A comparison of the voters list in those areas during the last 60 years will tell you the number of Tamil persons who had been displaced from those places.

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      There were far more Tamils in the north and east, especially the east who were displaced by the terrorist Sinhalese state and Muslim militants than Sinhalese ( very miniscule amount ) and Muslims, around 60000 and not 200000 as falsely claimed and 90% of them were dirt poor and never owned any land in the north, displaced due to their spying activities for the Sri Lankan armed forces and what happened to the Tamils in the east. Leave alone the hundreds of thousands Tamils, who were forcibly evicted from the south and almost a million fleeing to the west. This man completely ignores them and their plight and only under guise of displaced people wants to settle thousands of Sinhalese and Muslims who have nothing to do with the north and east there under sate subsidy, to deliberately change the demography. He keeps on calling the LTTE only terrorist but does not call the Sri Lankan state that was the biggest terrorist nor the Muslim home guards of the east. Most probably not terrorist for him as they were killing the Tamils. He ignores the horrible plight of the Tamil people who are the most effected and still are and cries about everyone else who were hardly affected. Shows his hypocritical racist Sinhalese Buddhist mindset. First settle the hundreds of thousands of Tamils who were displaced by the activities of the terrorist Sri Lankan state and Sinhalese Buddhist armed forces in their own lands and home , that have now been confiscated by the Sri Lankan armed forces, instead of advocating the settlement of fake Sinhalese and Muslim displaced people to deliberately colonist the north and further colonise the east. We can see through your biased crocodile tears. Racist

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        Prabhakaran killed more Tamils than Dutugamunu and all the Sinhala armies taken together.

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          Another fake Arab Wahhabi low caste Indian Tamil converted fairy tale. We all know what the Muslim home guards were up to in the east , destroying Hindu temples building mosques and beef stalls on these premises and killing and erasing Tamil Hindu villages. I can provide links and proof to this. This is why the Kattankudi massacre occurred is it was a hot bed of Islamic extremism and the mosque was used by the Muslim home guards as an arms depot to store weapons to attack the surrounding Tamil Hindu villages. Also in the 1980s Tamil Hindus were all expelled from the Kattankudi area at the behest of Mullas urging the Muslims in the area to do it. They were helped by the local Sinhalese police and then the local Hindu temple was destroyed. In the north without any provocation the local Muslims started to spy for the Sinhalese armed forces and were storing arms in their mosques. They LTTE found out and did not want a repeat of what happened in the east in the north too and chased them away before these immigrant low caste converts from South India can cause more damage to the indigenous Tamil population. The LTTE killed more Tamils than Dutugemunu! who told you this fib. The LTTE or Dutgemmunu who himself was a Tamil Naga Buddhist or were there counting the bodies ?

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          Bodin

          Thanks you for your conclusion.
          Could we have the details of those Tamils who were killed by V Prabaharan and that of the innocent Tamil people killed by Armed forces and goons since 1956.

          Thank you in advance.

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        Rohan, if sinhalese are racists, how about you guys? Vigneswaran is the most dangerous racist. When the world declared Piribakaran and Ltte as terrorist and terror group, why people like you get upset when we call him so?

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          Anika W,

          Both Sinhala and Tamils are Paras from India in the land of Native Veddah
          Aethho, call each other Paras, Para-Demala, Psra-Sinhala, and frequentlyracists as well. So, there must be some truth to it.

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          We are reacting to your state sponsored racism . Neither me or a single Tamil here have advocated racism or discrimination against non Tamils here, we are only stating the truth and want what is justly ours , however other than a few Sinhalese , all other Sinhalese and every single Muslim , ironically Tamil by ethnicity not Arab or Moor as they claim to be, constantly come here, and justify the state sponsored terrorism against the Tamils and advocate it. This includes you. It is you who is getting upset , when the truth is told , as you like most Sinhalese are racist to the core . The world at one time declared Nelson Mandela, and many other liberation leaders also as a terrorist when it suited them and then feted them later. The biggest terrorist is the Sri Lankan state and is armed forces and not the LTTE , they are the ones who are responsible for 95% of the killings and not the LTTE, this is why the UN wants an enquiry and the Sinhalese and the Sri Lankan government does not want one , as they do not want the truth to come out.

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          Amila W

          “Rohan, if sinhalese are racists, how about you guys?”

          Sinhalese are like their brethren not racists but stupid.
          The Sinhala/Buddhists are like their fellow Tamil Saivaites not only racists but likely to convert themselves into Fascists.
          So you have your equivalent varieties in all communities, hopefully they are few.

          How about you?

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        Rohan

        Dr. Upatissa Pethiyagoda is trying his own way to justify land grab and formalise it as if it is his god given right. He has no concerns about the people’s normal/natural habitat or their livelihood derived from it.

        He believes the majority Sinhala/Buddhists have “a special responsibility to be magnanimous as hosts or partners”. He does not understand all citizens have rights according to Constitution and local laws. It would be futile to drag him all the way from his own feudal world to a more modern liberal Democratic world.
        This understanding alone says a lot about him and his learning.

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        Those who resort to force will perish by force. Let us be patient. The world was conquered and ruled by force but it was only for a time and during such rule there were rebellions that had to be suppressed and there was no peace. If we want peace we must practice toleration even to those who are violent and preach violence. That is what Jesus taught and his teachings have not been wiped out despite numerous wars and massacres of its followers. Violence begets more violence but if we want peace let us practice tolerance as Buddhism does. It has not disappeared from the world despite violence against it and its followers. Whatever is good will not be suppressed by violence.

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      Vela,
      “It is the Government’s move to bring Sinhala persons from the south and settle (Colonize) in Jaffna that is being objected to.”
      Government is settling down the descendants of Demala slaves brought to this country by British colonial parasites using land once owned by Sinhalayo and State owned land. This is happening in the heartland of Sinhale. So why the Government cannot settle Sinhala people in the North?
      During British colonial rule, State land in Colombo were given to Demala people from the North. Demala people can buy land and other property in any part of the country but Sinhalyo cannot buy land in Yapanaya because Demalu have a stupid thing called ‘Thesawalama’.
      When Sinhala people chased away by LTTE went to Yapanaya after the war ended, they were chased away by Demala mobs.
      This is former Sinhale or what Tamil historians in India called ‘Seehala Nadu.

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        Stop lying racist old man. Try to something good in your old age at least, instead of spewing out hatred lies here and on other forums.

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        Parian I have told you to stop calling us Demalu in a degrading way. Colombo Telegraph should ban this creature form posting his lies and garbage on this forum

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          Call them Kallathonis or Paid Soldiers of LTTE. Once LTTE was gone their lost their land deeds

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          Siva Sankaran Sharma – bro taking your pills in time these days?

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        Eagle Blind Eye

        “Government is settling down the descendants of Demala slaves brought to this country by British colonial parasites using land once owned by Sinhalayo and State owned land.”

        Fine, then why is the rest of your criminal family being settled down in dry zones and fed by the state for being idle.

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      Contrary to what Vela says there is good reason for the government to help and encourage by various incentives for the Sinhalese (and other ethno-socio-cultural groups including Muslims) to settle in the North.
      People in the south (or even Notherners with the wrong “caste”) cannot buy land in Jaffna because of the Thesavalam laws except when the govt. settles them. Jaffna has for a long time been a rotting monoethnic enclave made even more pure-Tamil by the horrific ethnic “cleansing” practiced by the LTTE. To balance this and create a vibrant multi-cultural society is the duty of the government. Every ecosystem becomes sick unless biodiversity is encouraged. In Singapore the state forbids the type of Racial ghetto that Jaffna has become with Tamil in-fighting.
      Jaffna had a majority population of Muslims when Ceylon became a Crown colony (See Captain Percival’s book. He lived in Jaffna from 1800 to about 1820). The Sinhalese and Malabar Tamils, Chetti and other minorities also lived there – Tamils were not a majority – and we must re-create that society by government action – it is not colonization but necessary social equilibration as done in Singapore . Some very perceptive Tamil writers have said the same thing.

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        Yes we all know that you are a lying Thullukan who on keeps posting anti Tamil garbage and lies about the island’s Tamils. Low caste Indian Tamil immigrant convert now turned into a fake Arab anti Tamil Islamic Wahhabi bigot. Please provide links to this so called Captain Percival’s books and quotes. Cannot find anything. Being Muslims is not an ethnicity( only in Sri Lanka to divide and rule the Tamils) it is a religious identity . People belonging to various races, ethnicities and language groups can be Muslim. There is no such thing called a Muslim , Christian. Hindu or Buddhist ethnicity. Muslims in the world belong to different races, ethnicities and linguistic groups and also to different sects . They are not the same. Muslims in Sri Lanka other than the Borah and Malay ( who correctly identify themselves by their ethnicity) are all Tamil by ethnicity. Descended from largely low caste immigrant Indian Tamil converts. Very few native Tamils covered to Islam. There is a little bit of Arab in around 5% of them but this does not make them or the rest of the Muslims Arab or anything else , they are all still Tamil by ethnicity. Pathetically clinging to the incorrect name given by the Portuguese to all South Asian Muslims ” Moor” that all other South Asian Mulim groups quickly discarded , as they were not” Moor” does not make you Moor or Arab, understood lying pathetic low caste convert. Lastly Thesawalamai does not bar outsiders or non Tamils owning land. It only states if a property is owned by many owners and if one owner wants sell his or her share , they will have to offer this fist to the other co owners and only when they decline , it can be offered to the market. You fake Arab low caste converted South Indian Muslims are the biigest curse on the island’s Tamils, as all you have done to repay our kindness in granting refuge , when you were persecuted was treachery deceit and betrayal.

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          SSS

          Is ethnicity determined by language and language only?

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        Bodin

        “it is not colonization but necessary social equilibration as done in Singapore .”

        It’s a noble thought or practice that you have discovered. If it is the case there are other options available to the state. Has it considered alternatives before destabilising the eco and social system within a long established patterns of livelihood which depends on natural habitats?

        We have been hearing about all these bull shit for many years . Now let us have the reasons why the state and the land grabbing crooked fascists haven’t considered alternative to what they have set out to justify?

        Have you considered your land and house for equilibration? By the way how dare you compare this crooked country with Singapore? There are other things Singapore does, why couldn’t you pick any of them.

        In other words please stop bull s******g.

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    Madam Fathima
    Government must appoint a committee to study how religious minorities in Muslim majority countries are treated and adopt similar laws in Sri Lanka in respect of our Muslims. Wouldn’t that completely eliminate any apprehensions of Muslims?. Can anything be fairer than that?

    Soma

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      somass

      “Government must appoint a committee to study how religious minorities in Muslim majority countries are treated and adopt similar laws in Sri Lanka in respect of our Muslims.”

      Whatever the laws that’s being practiced in those countries that claims to be Islamic that is their problem. The Muslims who are born bred and chose to live in this island have nothing to do with these medieval states.
      For example you are a Sinhala/Buddhist fascist convert, tell us the manner in which you like to be or should be treated, fascist laws, Hindu Laws, Communist Laws, Buddhist laws, Thesawalamai, Marumakkathayam law of Malabar, Kandyan Law, … Dutch Laws, Ancient Tamil Nadu laws (refer to Studies in ancient Tamil law and society by R Nagaswamy for further clarification), ………….

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    In Sri Lanka, Sinhala buddhists and Tamil Hindus were persecuted since 1505. The Bhikkus were the most affected. Now, the Country has being taken over by the minorities. Now the minorities mostly those who cme afgter the european invasions have taken over the country and they are powerful because, they have money zand the countries are helping them. Aluthgama, Digana and in Mawanella and in many other places sinhala buddhists are being attacked. But, the newspapers do not report. Yet, politicians let Wahabis play their extremes. . govt neglect those because of the backlash by the oppostion politicians. Otherwise, Muslims do not vote theirs as muslim politicians are very corrupt and some are for womanizing too. Wahabis use every kind of Tactics in the democrtic world to estalish their heemony. On the other hand, if you check how Saudi Arabian treat women, their Religious police treat women like THRASH. Sri Lanka like countries are better I” suppose as all the women do not look like GONI billas. I personally know how ever tht those women are human. I have seen photos those women when they DRIVE out of the country families remove the CLOAK and behavr normal. Westerncountries have so many different migrent groups. but they are either just british, australian, american etc., etc., But Stupid Sri lankan politicians Attend the Miosuqe, and identify minority ethnic groups and feed the racism into their mind. On ther other hand there is attempt to Make every one to have one ‘IDentity. WHY DO NOT THEY ERASE ALL THE SINHALA, SINHALA DESHAYA mentioning art work whether it is books, Songs, Poems or what ever.

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      JD

      what kind of excuse myanmar rohingya problem BBC gives the full picture

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      JD ,

      . “In Sri Lanka, Sinhala buddhists and Tamil Hindus were persecuted since 1505. “

      So, they became Catholics and Christians.

      Muslims fled the Portuguese. The Portuguese were too busy to bother the Native Veddah Aethho, unlike the Para-Sinhala and Para-Tamils, two millennia back..

      2. “Now, the Country has being taken over by the minorities. “

      Now, the Country has being taken over by the Paras. Para-Sinhala, Para-Tamils and Para-Muslims, mostly Para-Sinhala.

      The Paras have a mean IQ of 79.

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    Dr. Upatissa Pethiyagoda and JD,

    Grow up guys. Being thin-minded, you achieve nothing, just make your own lives disastrous – if you are compelled to bring in other Muslims countries or Muslim of other countries in your argument on local Muslims, your argument instantly fails or you don’t have an argument there. I know Muslims are not saints, then no community is full of saints anywhere in the world. Let the law and order take care of them. How many communal violences we have had in the history? Did any of these incidents completely wipe any community out? No, in few years, we were all back to business but every violence has taken the country years back. Is there a valid reason why we need to take the nation years back?

    If you 2 and the sort of guys can’t be productive, fine. But do not interrupt those able be part of the progress this country badly in need of – Yes, there are very able people in all communities, so please don’t disturb them or inflict them with your dark and outdated views.

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    Dear Bodin,
    Your statement contain some incorrect facts. If people from the south (Or even northerners with the wrong caste) cannot buy land in Jaffna, how did they own lands and lived in Jaffna some years back? Are you not aware that the so called wrong caste people own land and live in Jaffna even now. If and when any land come up for sale it is mostly the so called wrong caste people who offer higher prices and buy such lands. Even if a person from the south want to buy a land, there is no legal hitch as you had stated.
    TO CREATE A VIBRANT MULTI CULTURED SOCIETY, will you request the Government to help and encourage by various incentives the People from the North to settle in Towns like Panadura, Kalutara, Galle Matara etc: – at least the people who had lived there earlier?
    Vela.

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    There is no caste system in Islam. That is the bottom line and greatness of Islam. Islam teaches that a person should be judged by his or her actions and not by which family they were born into. Islam also prohibits unethical conversions. In the Mosque, everyone-regardless of their positions in life, have to stand side by side, during congregational prayers.There is a huge difference between education and breeding.Some of the biggest racists and trouble makers are found among the so called educated people.There is no so called pure race in any part of the world.Inter marriages have destroyed the myth of so called pure races. Muslims believe that human beings are descendants of Adam Alaisalam and Eve.So how can a person be superior to another by birth? I can understand a person standing up for his or her religion. But fighting and killing each other over race (accident of birth) and language (means of communication) is absurd and counter productive in this era of globalisation.

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      What globalization for an old fart with an out-dated doctorate of a SL university? These dumb godaya buggers have no idea as where the world is aheading towards.

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      Zacki Jabbar .

      Imam Tawhidi Stream Deleted By FB(After Manchester Series)

      He says Islam is infested with Terrorists., the Islamists, the Wahhabi-Salafis.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GHQ2ob8IhM

      I AM OMEGA
      Published on May 25, 2017
      I am reposting this. This guy has made him self a prime target for assassination. For that reason I am willing too listen. Risking your life for a better future even if that is extremely difficult is noteworthy. As I posted this Tawhidi did another stream saying he was attacked in Sydney. No I have not become a sympathiser, a leftist, moonbat ect I am on a search for a middle ground, a solution, and honest discussion or any real pathway forward too combat extremism. I think the first step toward that is honesty. I understand and respect that there are also many right wingers doing the same. And like so many of you wishing swift and harsh judgement on the Manchester cell. My question is do we support the reformers who take accountability for “their own problems”. I dont see what there is too loose? This guy is not blaming the west. Hes taking Moral Agency for their own failings.

      The sunrise interview on Australian main stream media

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYuHJ

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    Zacki Jabbar ,

    “Muslims believe that human beings are descendants of Adam Alaisalam and Eve.So how can a person be superior to another by birth? “

    Not only Muslims, Christians and Jews believe, based on their scriptures, that human beings are descendants of Adam Alaisalam and Eve. However, science says , with data and demonstration, it is evolution and natural selection.

    There are two types of Muslims, those who follow God, interprets the scriptures (Quran,) with reason, and common sense, and those who interprets literally and follow the Satan, and kill people, like the Wahhabi-Salafis and their clones ISIS, etc.

    Imam Tawhidi – DELETED LIVESTREAM 27/05/2017 – Persecution of Christians in Egypt

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bec7tpBqR-U

    He says that the problem lies with the Preachers and those “Miuslims” who don’t know Islam, but like to kill,

    The Imam says, Islam NEEDS REFORMATION.

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    Zacki Jabbar ,

    “The Imam says, Islam NEEDS REFORMATION”

    The Imam is NOT the only person who says Islam needs reformation. Three are multitudes. .

    There are Two Islams: The Meccan Islam that was spiritual with love, which the Sufis tend to follow.

    Then the Medina Islam, violent, which the Wahhabi–Salafies and their clones, ISIS etc. follow.

    Pakistani Ex-Muslim Atheist: I left Islam because it’s misogynistic

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJDZ86hN6ho

    Abdullah Begg
    Published on Feb 29, 2016
    Examples of the inferiority of women in the Qu’ran and Hadiths:

    Qu’ran 4:11: Allah commands you as regards your children’s (inheritance); to the male, a portion equal to that of two females

    Qu’ran 4:34: Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth.

    Qu’ran ‪2:28‬‬‬‬‬‬‬2 And bring to witness two witnesses from among your men. And if there are not two men [available], then a man and two women from those whom you accept as witnesses – so that if one of the women errs, then the other can remind her.

    Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 6, Number 301:
    Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:

    He said, “This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn’t it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?” The women replied in the affirmative. He said, “This is the deficiency in her religion.”

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