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We Feel Very Strongly Against The Continued Stay Of Armed Forces

By C.V. Wigneswaran

C.V Wigneswaran

C.V Wigneswaran

Guru Brahma …

Hon’ Governor, Hon’ Minister Gamini Jayawickrama Perera, Hon’ Minister D.M.Swaminathan, Hon’ Deputy Minister Mrs.Vijekala Maheswaran, Hon’ Ministers of the Provincial Council, officers of the Northern Provincial Council, other officers, my dear brothers and sisters,

The change in Government is showing favourably in the number of visits by VIPs from Colombo last few days. We welcome all of them. Earlier the point of contact of the Ministers from the Central Government was a Minister who ran his Establishment from a Theater close by a theatre building to which rent was not paid for a considerable number of years or never paid. Now fortunately our Ministers are reaching out to us and to our officers. We are thankful to them for showing tremendous understanding with regard to our plight. There are a number of matters Hon Gamini Jayawickrama Perera and his officers would be speaking to us today. Let us take cognisance of them and bring about better understanding with the South. Quicker and cheaper marketing of our produce is one area the Hon’ Minister is very much interested in. He has suggested the use of the Railway in this regard.

There is a specialty in Hon’ Minister Gamini Jayawickrama Perera. He has been a Chief Minister of Wayamba Provincial Council soon after the Indo – Sri Lanka Agreement and the 13th Amendment. Thus he is one of the pioneers in working out the 13th Amendment. He was then my neighbor at the Summit Flats in Keppitipola Mawatha, Colombo. It is nice to renew our friendship after such a long time. The Hon’ Minister is very enthusiastic about greater co-operation between North and South. His special area of interest is the creation of a vibrant co-operative movement. Lots of rights have been plucked from us since the time Hon’ Minister was Chief Minister. We lost some during the Presidency of Mr. Premadasa, some due to Supreme Court decisions and so much under the Divineguma. The 13th Amendment today is a much emaciated document.

We have in Hon’ Minister D.M. Swaminathan a pragmatic and practical Minister. He had been a Governor of the Western Province for some time. He too is familiar with the working of the Provincial Council. He has come over to put into effect the promise he gave us when we went and met him in Colombo a few weeks ago. At least the process of handing over of land unwanted by the Army to its lawful owners is now starting. Areas have been identified and earmarked. Within three weeks let us hope that our suffering and deprived dear brothers and sisters would be able to go back to their own lands. Though we are very happy that an area of 1000 acres is being handed over, it must be recorded here that we have asked for at least 5500 acres to be returned. Around 6500 acres of land have been arbitrarily taken over by the Army in the Valikamam North area only since the end of the war in 2009 and not returned. These are mostly fertile agricultural lands to which the owners have proper deeds. I pointed out to the Hon’ Minister the other day in Colombo that a maximum of 1000 acres is all what the Army needs to protect Palali Air Port and K.K.S Port. Anything more is excess land arbitrarily retained.

The balance 5500 acres can be returned to their lawful owners. The Army must not be allowed to be parasitic on us. They are cultivating our fertile lands for their benefit; they are using our good water and depriving us of our water in an area where water is precious. They are polluting our areas with their waste; they are a source of irritation and fear in our midst. Recent public pronouncements that even a single Army Camp would not be withdrawn even if it was for the consumption of the Southern Electorate could have been avoided. It had the effect of our response by passing a Resolution on Genocide. Please remember we feel very strongly against the continued stay of the Armed Forces in our areas. Until they are removed except in areas of strategic importance we would feel threatened.

Yet we are happy that this Government is taking positive steps to improve the quality of life of our people. We are equally aware of the fact that a proper resolution of our problems could not be achieved merely by giving back what we are already entitled to. Because the previous Government deprived us of our legitimate rights, the handing back of what is legitimately ours might seem a great boon to us. In a practical way these handings over however limited in scope they may be, are no doubt helpful to us. The change of the Governor and the Chief Secretary are no doubt in the right direction. But they were legitimately already our rights. Deprived rights. Politically deprived rights!

May I also point out to this august assembly of Ministers and officials that there is a 67 year old ethnic problem still hanging fire. We have not solved that yet. When we were voted to power it was on the basis that we would strive to bring about a settlement within a united Sri Lanka, that we would ensure the recognition of our individualism in the North and East and that we would strive for maximum devolution by the Central Government.

This settlement is essential so that none would put us back into the Sea of turmoil and despair again. While expecting a permanent solution to our innumerable problems, we do welcome the concern of the Central Government and its Ministers in the welfare of our people. As we go on you would recognize our concerns and needs. Please do not indulge subtlety in exercises which the earlier Government engaged in openly. If our concerns and fears are understood this Country could rise up to its pristine glory.

I thank you all, for your patient hearing.

*Chief Minister Wignewaran’s speech – Dialogue with Representatives of Co-operatives’ Movement And Farmer Organizations at Jaffna Public Library Auditorium 28th February 2015 

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    A well nuanced and composed speech sans rhetoric. A healing approach that recognises the positive developments, while highlighting what yet need to be done, without venom or ranker. However, what were negative in approach to the Tamil issues, were not subtle, but full of subterfuge. This subterfuge bordered on criminality on an island- wide scale.

    Dr.Rajasingham Narendran

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      Dear Dr. Rajasingham Narendran,

      I disagree with your views as he is on a confrontational path.

      Their is enough venom in the speech that will provide fuel for the radicals.

      He refers to the Genocide resolution as a Tit for Tat for Maithree’s declaration that not a single army camp would be removed. That was an election promise to defuse MR’s campaign core issue.

      If CM Wigs did not like it he should have advised the Tamil voters not to vote for MS. He did not do so because he knew what the result would be. Hence why is he doing so now?

      Did you notice that the Genocide resolution does not mention anything of the Child Soldiers? There were a minimum 100,000 of them. The War Criminal is living under the nose of the UK Govt. Why is there no campaign to bring her in front of the ICC? Fear that an inquiry will unearth the equally guilty financiers?

      I have written a comment at this link. You can get more details in it.

      https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/we-feel-very-strongly-against-the-continued-stay-of-armed-forces/comment-page-1/#comment-1782621

      Kind Regards,
      OTC

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        OTC,
        “Their is enough venom in the speech that will provide fuel for the radicals.”
        All your comments are full of VENOM.

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          Dear Anpu,

          Re “All your comments are full of VENOM”

          Tough Luck.
          My comments are full of facts that counteract the venom spewed here by separatists. Prove that they are wrong and I will apologise unreservedly.

          I find that the TRUTH can defang the separatist snake and it has done so so far.

          Kind Regards,
          OTC

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            Even “cuff” does not know if he is dishing out all these venom “off the head” or “off the butt”.

            A real buffoon indeed!

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              When you do not have the intellect to make an argument what else can you do except call names?

              Be careful when you flush, lest what’s left of your brains go out of reach forever.
              Ha ha haa

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        Dear OTC,

        Chief Minister Wigneswaran has referred to the genicide resolution only as a reaction to the statement that not even one army camp will be closed. Both the action and reaction were cheap political statements and were played to the gallery- the bane of popular democracy. The lowest common denominator decides how we are.governed at various levels,

        I can categorically state after having experienced the post-war north for almost five years that the numbing of the conscience and perverting the traditional value system of the Tamils were the real genocide committed by both the LTTE and the Government, through their unethical approaches to achieve their objectives, The deaths during the war, regardless of the terms used to describe them, will become a distant, though bitter memory with the passage of time. However, the damage done to the culture and values of the Tamils, may be everlasting.

        I hope the CM and the government recognise this tragedy as the worst that could have happened to a people, We may be Tamils by label today, but we are not the Tamils we were before. Their is a Himalayan gap between the two.

        Dr. RN

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          Dear Dr R.N,

          You know that I respect you immensely for your truthfulness. That characteristic of yours was anathema to people like Dev who endlessly attacked you.

          I was very happy when SC Judge Wigneswaran took over the leadership of the NP elections as I thought he and Sumanthiran would be able to bring moderation to an otherwise LTTE mouthpiece that was the ITAK.

          I believe you have read my comment addressed to CM Wineswaran where I underlined what he said about the Genocide resolution. The CM tried to downplay it by using innocuous language when on his own admission it was a Tit for Tat, a confrontation.

          As you rightly observed He was Playing to the Gallery. It reminded me of what Mr. T. Chellappa-pillai, retired Chief Justice of Travancore, a renowned mathematician an eminent English, Sanskrit and Tamil Scholar wrote in his editorial in 1939 “thanks to the hot-heads and irresponsible talkers in the country who care more for the plaudits of the mob than for the welfare of the people. Ceylon today is seething with petty problems which have been created by thoughtless gas-bags, and which threaten to poison the peaceful conditions in the country”.

          It made me wonder whether history was about to repeat itself.

          This was not what we expected from a senior SC Judge! His saber rattling have already reverberated in the MR camp. 5.8 million voted for him and it only requires a vote shift of 5% from MS to MR to make sure MR will win the next General Election. With a President with reduced powers (MS) at the helm and a PM with enhanced powers as the head of the cabinet (MR) we will be back at square one. Wigneswaran will again have a scorned Douglas Devananda breathing fire down his neck and a military governor to deal with. How shortsighted can one get?

          I am not convinced that the govt intentionally wanted to wipe off Tamils anywhere in Lanka. There is no evidence to support it. But we know that the LTTE held Civilians in a Human Shield. We know that the LTTE infiltrated the NFZ along with heavy guns and fired at the forces from there. Pics taken by Times of London journalist who accompanied Ban Ki Moon when he overflew the NFZ proves it.

          The pressure put by the west (to please the diaspora vote bank) and the politics of India at the time, forced the govt’s hand to beat the Indian election deadline. The govt was not prepared for another parippu drop like operation to save Prabahkaran. That would have happened if Delhi had to depend on TN to form a govt. Prabahkaran had to go and the 30 year carnage had to stop.

          The Earth bunds and ditches put up by the LTTE to coral the civilians were all constructed using Heavy equipment the NGO’s were allowed to use for reconstruction work in LTTE areas.

          Land mine clearance cost SL Rs 11,374,000,000. It benefits only the Northern population, who pays for it? Everyone in Lanka not just the Northerners. Three fourths of that cost will be borne by the Sinhalese.

          Between 2009 and 2012 the money spent on war effected areas is Rs 202,000,000,000. One and a half years later that would have increased by another 100 billion! This investment in the North is unprecedented in the History of Lanka.

          Less than half of that is foreign aid and the balance was from SL. 75% of that cost will be paid by the Sinhala via tax.

          Why can’t these fools see this and cooperate for their own benefit? Politicians are more interested in power than the welfare of the people.

          Did you read the Genocide resolution? All that talk of forced sterilization is poppy cock. The provincial health dept is under the NPC. The doctors are Tamil. The nurses are Tamil. The midwives are Tamil. The attendants are Tamil.

          The CM is a prisoner of the extremists in ITAK who are the majority. MR met confrontation with confrontation. He used another terrorist in Douglas Deva against the ITAK and used his governor to prevent any credit accruing to the NPC.

          I think the CM is squandering a golden chance that we have and waving his hand at MR with his confrontationist stance. If he continues in this fashion MR will be back with a vengeance in a couple of months.

          Many in the majority community (34.43%) voted with Maithree ignoring MR’s Separatist propaganda. It is the responsibility of the Tamil leadership to ensure those fears are not rekindled and a shift of 5% does not occur from MS to MR.

          Kind Regards,
          OTC

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            Absolutely spot on comments from OTC & Dr RN. Sadly, with his ill-chosen inflammitary words regarding alleged genocide with no mention of the crimes of the Tigers, the Chief Minister of the Northern Province has helped ensure that the TNA is not to be trusted. This means that the army camps must remain, that loyal Sri Lankans will continue to be encouraged to migrate to the North and will be no haste from Sri Lanka’s end to facilitate the early return of Tamilian Sri Lankan refugees from India. With a “captain” like Wigneswaran,Tamilian Sri Lankans have a deluded man comanding their ship.

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              Candidly, “ill-chosen inflammitary words regarding alleged genocide with no mention of the crimes of the Tigers,”

              The Tiger supporters are livid when that is pointed out.
              Wigs was a fool to pander to the extremists within the NPC and outside. Not what we expected from a SC Judge.

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              Candel_holding & Over Tsexed Chuffe, woodworms holding hands

              [Edited out]
              。◕‿◕。

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            “MR will be back with a vengeance in a couple of months”

            My FOOT!! LOL

            While scrolling down, by accident I saw the above statement, could not stop laughing.

            Is anybody reading the gibberish what this OTC buffoon is scribbling??

            What a waste a cyber space with a heap of rubbish, why not go and dump this in a junk yard like Lk-web where they may appreciate your crap.

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              Yes, we are entertained. It’s really sad though; the fact that he can’t think.

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                Oh so you can THINK?

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            The US & UN were all out to screw Sri Lanka under MR.

            If MR was the president of Sri Lanka, the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Zeid Ra`ad Al Hussein and the team appointed to compile the report after investigating the war crimes in Sri Lanka would NOT have delayed the report.

            We Tamils would prefer an anti-western anti-Tamil President/PM in Sri Lanka. We want MR to become PM in the forthcoming parliamentary elections & all hell will break loose again in Sri Lanka.

            “MR will be back with a vengeance” and we Tamils love it.

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            Dont you think MR’s strategy is what suits…..we wasted 30 years with LTTE talks….but finally military offensive was the solution. Likewise sweet talk and cooperation does not go with TNA..(not only Wiggie, Sampandan and Sumanthiran as well).

            It is time we understand this simple fact.

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              And THIS comment of sach’s is why morons like OTC and sach are the problem for my county.

              They read an article by a Tamil man that talks about a “united” nation and working together to ensure that “this Country could rise up to its pristine glory” and they want to start another war with that man and his race. That’s the conclusion they arrive at using their flawed reasoning. I think destructive morons like this, don’t want peace.

              As sach says, “military offensive” is the solution, not “sweet talk and cooperation”. So they keep wanting to start wars. I think there is something fundamentally broken and primitive in their mental process. So what do we do? We are a multiracial nation and we’re a small nation. So if we, the Sinhalese allow morons like OTC and sach to keep causing trouble, our status as a war torn nation is never going to change. If we keep having one war after another, there’s not going to be a Sinhalese race left.

              We have a real pseudo Sinhalese extremist problem in this county. We need to solve that. We need strong legislation in this country to protects the country against morons like this. We need strong laws against hate speech, acts done to instigate racial violence etc. A system must be put in place to ensure that destructive individuals like this, who pose a genuine security threat to the country will be sent to where they belong if they escalate in violence, which is a jail cell.

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                First calm down, no need to jump that high to win tamil accolades.

                Dear I did not do anything. I am not the person to have passed a resolution that triggered this whole debate. So even if I am not here (or for that matter OTC is not here) this debate would simply continue. Look at what triggered the debate, it is the resolution. And honey I did not pass a resolution.

                Second this is not an article, this is a speech by nut case wiggie which CT published…read from the top..then you will realise :)

                Do not look at what tamil leaders say by united, look at what they do. Then you will realize for what they actually stand for. Sinhalese are easy to be deceived and you share that too.

                There is no debate over whether military offensive was the solution. It WAS the solution for LTTE terrorism. What is the point in bringing out something already proven? And read my comment again. Your comprehension seems poor.

                Who do you think you are to call others primitive? Who are you? what is your importance? This mentality is shared by many so called Marxist, Colombo based westernized so called cosmopolitan Sinhalese. They think they are the apex of Sinhala society. Who are you to call others primitive? Do you know me? Do you know people who support MR? Do you know what they do? Clearly you don’t. So mind what you write.

                There won’t be a war…And even last war, Sinhalese did not start it.
                And idiot, I made a comment here. That is not violence. Is expressing an opinion banned under ‘yahapalanaya’?

                Of course hate speech should be banned and racism should be banned. My only problem is it should be equal to both tamils and Sinhalese…Got it moron?

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                  Sach – Misguided Moron

                  I truly believe a jail cell is the safest place for someone like you, IF you get worse; in the interests of my country.

                  The fact that you think human thinking is a shallow attempt to win “accolades” simply proves how truly dumb you are.

                  A speech when it’s published as a piece of writing can be considered an article. LOL.

                  You will never get. YES sach, YOU ARE PRIMITIVE. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM IN THIS COUNTRY.

                  If the true Sinhalese in this country with the support of the clear thinking minority people do not do what’s necessary in the near future to build a road forward; there WILL be wars in the future of this country. Just like the one your Moronic Mahinda was setting the scene for by provoking our Muslim community using the BBS.

                  The Sinhalese DID start the civil war you cretin, the reason you don’t see this is BECAUSE you’re primitive. You don’t even know the history of this country, and I don’t see the point in sharing that with you. Because to a mind like yours, it will be like water on a duck’s back, you cannot comprehend it as you cannot see past your dishonest self-interest.

                  Humans take responsibility for mistakes made by generations in their past, that’s the only way forward. But individuals like you never will. You live in your messed up world, thinking you did no wrong and basically looking for the next puppy to kick (That’s an analogy okay).

                  Of course, of course you think racism should be banned. That’s why you just recommended a “military offensive” against a Tamil man and his race because of an article that talked about a “united” Sri Lanka. I’m not the one that doesn’t get it. Dishonest much???

                  You are entertaining though.

                  Your opinion was a violent opinion expressed by a primitive mind. I said you should be sent to jail ONLY if your violence escalates, so no need to worry just yet. Try to EVOLVE before you get to that point.

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                    Really? Is free speech not allowed in yahapalanaya now? Should people with a different view point than yours put in jail? Is that what you say? Please practice what you preach and be ready to listen to other viewpoints instead of acting like a bulldog to please someone else. Yes to win accolades. That is something I have observed in some Sinhalese.

                    And you are an example of the many wrongs of this yahapalana fellows.

                    Until the primitive people brought an end to terrorism in this country you people could not do anything other than fleeing the country in fear of suicide bombs. At the end of the day, it is always the ‘primitive ‘ people that faced the bullets for the country and came forward to fight any threat against this country throughout history. So yours is a borrowed life where you owe a lot to these primitive people. You live because they faced bullets. Have respect for primitive people whom you owe a lot.

                    So do you have clear thinking minority in this country? The day we have a clear thinking minority (tamils) we can build bridges, but I hardly see any tamil that seeks reconciliation. They seek blood to avenge the LTTE defeat. You can ignore that if you want, but we can clearly see what is happening.

                    I understand you have become overly frightened of a possible Muslim –Sinhala war in SL. Don’t fear dear, there won’t be anything like that. If Muslims took arms that would be the stupidest thing to do and believe me, they won’t. In spite of few BBS noises, Muslims in SL lead a very good life and they won’t do anything to lose it. So don’t be that stupid. They won’t and they can’t. And Muslim people’s issue is a separate one from the so called tamil nation issue.

                    If you know history, do tell that to ignorant primitive. Do you know even a military method was approved in Vadukkodai resolution as early as in 1976? The LTTE was formed in 1972. Tamil leaders talked about Eelam in 1922. The first ethnic riot between Sinhala-Tamil happened in 1939 after GG Ponnambalam’s speech. There is a lot of history that you do not know. Research into these before yelling I know better than you. Idiot!

                    Your stupid childish analogy shows the idiot who is behind this ‘Sinhalese’ pseudonym. And idiot read what I wrote again. I said military offensive was the ultimate solution for the LTTE terrorism. Go and read again before embarrassing yourself again. I did not suggest any military offensive here. I talked about something happened five years ago. What is the use of military offensive against an old windbag who is a joke now?

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                  And sach, IF we had not voted your corrupt MR out of the government, we would have faced a civil war with the Muslim community in a few years. Those uncivilized mongrels in the BBS supported by Moronic Mahinda, would have provoked them to the point that they took up arms against us. They were incredibly civilized against all the ugly racist things the “government” allowed to be done to them.

                  And sach, let me just tell you, had the Muslims taken up arms against us, it would not be like the LTTE, it would have been far worse. You are simply too moronic to realize the danger we were in. You still back MR in spite of all that. That is why I consider you primitive. Learn, think and grow sach, or you will continue to be the problem for the Sinhalese.

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                    I now understand your issue. You are so scared of Muslims right. Don’t you think you contradict yourself when you say they are very gentlemanly and again say they will be very dangerous if they took arms (more dangerous than LTTE. There will never ever be a situation where Muslims take arms. Even if few idiots entertain that idea, they cant. They won’t have logistical support like Tamils had and Muslims are intelligent to realize taking arms would destroy them. You look like a frightened kid who sweet talk a bad person in fear of their attack. :)
                    And Muslim issue and Tamil nation issue are completely different things. Don’t talk like an idiot. And MR did not sponsor BBS. The real sponsor of BBS was Norway, which unfortunately MR did not take action against.
                    I also voted against MR and for MY3 before you scream again like an idiot.

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                      sach – Misguided Moron

                      You belong in jail dear moron, if the violence resulting from your primitive mindset escalates.

                      The Tamil issue and the Muslim issue are not at all different; only a moron like you would think that. The Sinhalese provoked both those races; the Tamils retaliated and the Muslims did not. The Tamils were betrayed by the Sinhalese in a lot of agreements made between the politicians; they faced racist abuse by morons like Anagarika Dharmapala which was condoned by the Government and they were not treated as equal citizens. They are not treated equally even today. But I believe in this Government; it has the right instincts and with time, it can set things right.

                      If the government had not been changed by the majority of SRI LANKANS, we would have faced another civil war in a few years time. When a Government pushes people into a corner by not governing its citizens fairly and equally; violent reactions are the only logical conclusion. Morons like you, lack the capacity to connect the dots between action and reaction, you cannot fathom the logical consequences of a course of action.

                      The reason the Sinhalese provoked both races is BECAUSE of racist unintelligent minds like yours. I don’t consider you a Sinhalese sach, you are a problem for us. The fact that you buy into a biased view where the Sinhalese did no wrong; makes complete sense, it is not possible for you to think with an unbiased mind.

                      Just like it is not possible for your MR to accept that the true Sinhalese voted him out too, not just the minorities. Anyway people like me are the majority now, comprised of all the Sri Lankan races. And it is logical that the number of moderate Sinhalese will only grow in number, as less people are scared now and are more informed; because of the change in Government. And my puppy analogy makes complete sense; because neither the Tamils nor the Muslims deserved to be treated the way our politicians in the past treated them. You don’t see this I know moron.

                      The fact that you voted for MY3 is a absolute lie, because just yesterday you commented that you SUPPORTED MR. And you clearly said that you did not believe in cooperation with the Tamils. So if you don’t believe in cooperation; then you DO condone aggression towards them, which is the only other alternative as both races live here.

                      It’s sad that you don’t see how dishonest you are. You’re only lying to yourself sach, you’re not fooling anyone. It makes me laugh that you don’t see what I see; and what a normal person would see. You called me a child, but yours is the child-like primitive intellect. It’s like you don’t have higher reasoning capability, you are undeveloped. And you are oblivious to the possibility that other people, like me, can see you clearly for what you are.

                      I don’t think there is a cure for a mind like yours. Because you have to first acknowledge that you have a problem; which you don’t.

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                      sach – Misguided Moron

                      I already told you about Anagarika Dharmapala who lived between 1864 and 1933. I even quoted the racist things he said about the Tamil people in public speeches in the comments section of Kanthaiya’s article about Nazi ideology.

                      It’s really convenient that your beginning for the race conflict between the Tamils and the Sinhalese begins in the 70s when AD was sprouting racist divisive drivel DECADES earlier. LOL. You are simply exposing you lack of intelligence.

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                      sach – Misguided Moron

                      I just realized I did not comment on the red herring you introduced into this discussion: the armed forces.

                      My comments to you are about YOU and OTC and not about the armed forces. Please don’t hide behind the armed forces, they’ve suffered enough because of people like you. The armed forces followed orders from the politicians that started this war. They did NOT create conditions to start the war, they were victims just like the Tamils and the Muslims. The fact that the war degraded their humanity is logical, as that is the logical consequences of a prolonged war. The armed forces that lost their lives because of the war; are victims of the mistakes made by politician who ALLOWED and ENCOURAGED the conditions for the war to start in the first place.

                      THAT IS WHY INDIVIDUALS LIKE YOU ARE A THREAT TO ALL CITIZENS OF SRI LANKA WHO WANT PEACE. BECAUSE YOUR PRIMITIVE THINKING AND THE LOGICAL CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR FLAWED REASONING CREATE CONDITIONS FOR WARS TO START.

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                    Dear “Sinhalese”

                    Re “IF we had not voted your corrupt MR out of the government,..”

                    That was presumptuous and is indicative of your character.

                    It was not ONLY you who voted for MS. The minority of the Majority, 34% of them in fact, voted MS against MR. They were not mislead by MR’s propaganda of an impending division of the country. They voted out a govt that was corrupt to the core. I don’t know about Sach, but I too was party to it, not just you.

                    Kind Regards,
                    OTC

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                      OTC – Misguided Moron

                      The word “we” is a nominative plural; it means myself and many others. Therefore my use of that word cannot logically mean that I meant only myself. Therefore that entire comment of yours is founded on a false premise and it inaccurate.

                      It is interesting that your lack of intelligence is so obvious.

                      I think you saying you supported MY3 is a lie, based on how misguided and dishonest you are. It’s just like sach saying he supported MY3 after saying yesterday that he supports MR.

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                      OTC – Misguided Moron

                      Please tell me how, in my using the word “we” I meant only myself?

                      Please explain your process of reasoning that made you conclude that I meant only myself?

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                      Dear “Sinhalese”

                      The Bull in you has gone past the reason that I said you were presumptuous. It is because there were MILLIONS who voted MS and you were putting on a Know ALL Cap in posing as the Soothsayer who KNEW who voted MS and who voted MR.

                      A wise man would have searched CT to find out the background before making a fool of himself by acting the BULL.

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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                  “sachet
                  “First calm down, no need to jump””

                  Jumpurrrr, ~゜・_・゜~  ~゜・_・゜~ 

                  FINE – [Edited out], insecure, neurotic & emotional.holdall

                  singaylish hamuduruvo,
                  Have you not holes in your underwear??

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                Dear Sinhalese,

                Sach and I are two different individuals. You are an ABSOLUTE NUT if you think that I am responsible for Sach’s views and Sach is responsible for mine. Shows how Rational your THINKING is!

                What you are writing here is absolute crap and down right idiotic. A hallmark of an imbecile with a massive ego of self importance. A clown who does not depend on decent debate based on facts but on rowdy name calling and attempted intimidation.

                Discuss me and my writings in comments addressed to me without hiding like a coward under a comment addressing someone else.

                Kind Regards,
                OTC

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                  OTC – Misguided Moron

                  But this is not a relevant reply. How disappointing! Were you not supposed to give me a relevant reply as you promised yesterday which you did not deliver. Today also I asked you to defend an allegation you raised regarding my use of the nominative plural “we”. Instead of doing that, here you are; ranting.

                  You enjoy ranting to replying because you lack the capability to defend your unproven allegations. Come on OTC, give it a human attempt!

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                  OTC – Misguided Moron

                  I am awaiting your replies.

                  Instead of replying what you’re doing is NOT REPLYING and making NEW ALLEGATIONS. YAWN.

                  I never said you too morons were responsible for each others view. You have assumed this. LOL.

                  A debate involves the other person actually defending his views. You have up to now; FAILED to accomplish this. So at the moment, this is a one sided debate. With me debating and you making unfounded allegations that you subsequently fail to defend.

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                    Dear “Sinhalese”,

                    Responding to my comment of March 3, 2015 at 10:59 am you wrote

                    Re “But this is not a relevant reply. How disappointing!”

                    You are writing a deluge of trashy comments without waiting for a reply. One comment of yours follows another comment of yours followed by yet another, all addressed to the same person

                    You write so much of Trash that you yourself don’t know what you have written.

                    My comment was in response to your comment on March 2, 2015 at 3:18 pm

                    “I never said you too morons were responsible for each others view. You have assumed this. LOL” yours of March 3, 2015 at 3:54 pm

                    “And THIS comment of sach’s is why morons like OTC and sach are the problem for my county.” You on March 2, 2015 at 3:18 pm

                    The swollen headed fool has hung himself with his own petard…Ha ha haa!!!

                    Kind Regards,
                    OTC

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                      “And THIS comment of sach’s is why morons like OTC and sach are the problem for my county.” You on March 2, 2015 at 3:18 pm

                      How does this comment indicate that I consider you and sach the same person?

                      How does this comment indicate that I consider you and sach as being responsible for each others’ views?

                      You have already established your views to me moron. I based that statement on your views that you have shared with the CT readership as a response to this article; and therefore I mentioned you in a comment that included both you and sach as being a problem for my county.

                      Please answer the questions.

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                      Dear “Sinhalese”

                      You ask “How does this comment indicate that I consider you and sach the same person?”

                      You have really taken leave of your senses.
                      Stop smoking whatever you are smoking.
                      You are hallucinating as it is.
                      I have not accused you of that.
                      It is the BULL in you that assumes so.

                      You ask again “How does this comment indicate that I consider you and sach as being responsible for each others’ views?”

                      Perhaps you should take a pause to allow your Diarrhea to get settled.

                      This is what you wrote on March 2, 2015 at 3:18 pm “And THIS comment of sach’s is why morons like OTC and sach are the problem for my county.”

                      The SINGULAR reason you give to attack me like a coward in a comment NOT ADDRESSED to me is what I have emphasized in bold. No other reason is given as to why I got dragged in.

                      Now when you are caught with your pants down you try to change the tune.

                      Do the Honourable thing. Admit your error and apologise.

                      Unless of course you are too much of a Pig Headed Moron to do so. </b.

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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                  OTC – Misguided Moron

                  Just in case you missed my response to your yet unproven allegation which you have not YET replied:

                  You said that I only meant myself when I used the word “we” You babbled on making unfounded allegations based on this premise.

                  The word “we” is a nominative plural; it means myself and many others. Therefore my use of that word cannot logically mean that I meant only myself. Therefore that entire comment of yours is founded on a false premise and it inaccurate.

                  Please tell me how, in my using the word “we” I meant only myself?

                  Please explain your process of reasoning that made you conclude that I meant only myself?

                  New Point: Why have you introduced new premises into the discussion BEFORE defending the premises you made earlier. Is this kind of behavior NOT primitive?

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                  OTC – Misguided Moron

                  It is your premises that are the problem. Your mental foundations are faulty; they are an excellent example of a faulty reasoning process.

                  Example: I did not say that you and sach are the same person. I also did not say you’re responsible for each others views. You lied when you said that I said that.

                  You then use that lie, as a foundation for your illogical drivel and you rant and rave.

                  And you console yourself with the misguided belief that people like me, don’t see you for what you are.

                  The REASON you do this is because you’re afraid of facing the fact that you are INCAPABLE of defending the allegations you have made.

                  You have up to now, not defended a SINGLE allegation you have raised.

                  1. You called the article writer a terrorist. You just made the allegation.

                  2. You called the article writer a separatist. You just made the allegation.

                  3. You said my numbering was wrong in my first response to your drivel, I later proved to you that it was not. But you have not defended yourself at all. You just made the allegation.

                  4. You said the Tamils forged the deeds to their land in Jaffna. You just made the allegation.

                  5. Today, I asked you how the word “we” meant only me; because you made an allegation based on the fact that “we” meant only me. You used that lie as a basis for your drivel. You have still not replied to that. You just made the allegation.

                  And here you are ranting and raving based on yet another lie that you have said.

                  You’re so interesting as a specimen of a Misguided Moron.

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                    To ‘Sinhalese’

                    Idiot, go and ask from the people who formed the armed forces and fought terrorism in this country ‘do ya feel like giving a half of this to wiggie who called Prabha a hero’…These people who shed their blood come from the same group of people whom you call primitive..

                    Dont worry if another war starts, you can hide like you did before, the primitives will clean everything.

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                      Sach – Misguided Moron

                      Haven’t we already covered the topic of you hiding behind the much maligned armed forces? You’re the one calling the armed forces primitive; NOT me. I already shared my views with you on this topic. Stop lying sach. You lie every-time LOL.

                      But I’m at least glad you consider yourself a primitive now; that is the first honest thing you’ve said. Well done! Keep thinking.

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                      sach – Misguided Moron

                      Don’t listen to what people around you say is the history of Sri Lanka. So many people are calling you a liar; don’t you want to prove them wrong? So go find out for yourself. Then you know for sure! And consider all the views you don’t agree with and keep asking yourself if they make any sense. Keep learning moron.

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                    Dear “Sinhalese”,

                    This is a short reply to your Houdini Act.

                    Re “Example: I did not say that you and sach are the same person. I also did not say you’re responsible for each others views. You lied when you said that I said that. You then use that lie, as a foundation for your illogical drivel and you rant and rave”

                    The arguments with reasons are detailed in the following posts of mine.

                    March 3, 2015 at 10:32 am
                    March 3, 2015 at 5:28 pm
                    March 3, 2015 at 10:59 am
                    March 3, 2015 at 5:55 pm
                    March 3, 2015 at 8:47 pm

                    You are trying to FEIGN ignorance.

                    You have not dislodged my arguments and your LIES cannot dislodge them either.

                    If you cannot give references to my comments by Copying and Pasting EXACT phrases, date and time, to the following statements that you make, YOU ARE TWO FACED LAIR.

                    My statements that allowed you to arrive at the following conclusions “I did not say that you and sach are the same person. I also did not say you’re responsible for each others views.”

                    I called the article writer a terrorist.

                    I called the article writer a separatist.

                    I said the Tamils forged the deeds to their land in Jaffna.

                    Re “Today, I asked you how the word “we” meant only me; because you made an allegation based on the fact that “we” meant only me.”

                    Imbecile, you have a problem comprehending English, unfortunately it is the language used here. Detailed reasons were given in my comments referenced above. You could not counter them and now you are acting innocent.

                    Here is an extract from my comment March 3, 2015 at 8:47 pm

                    This is what you wrote on March 2, 2015 at 3:18 pm
                    “And THIS comment of sach’s is why morons like OTC and sach are the problem for my county.” The SINGULAR reason you give to attack me like a coward in a comment NOT ADDRESSED to me is what I have emphasized in bold.

                    No other reason is given as to why I got dragged in. Now when you are caught with your pants down you try to change the tune.

                    End extract

                    The reason is clearly explained in the above. The “we” is not the reason though you try to use it to cover your nudity.

                    You say I have not replied when there are five of them. Either you don’t understand English or you are trying a Houdini act.

                    Kind Regards,
                    OTC

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          Are you saying genocide resolution came as a reaction and not because there was a genocide…..LOL

          I guess we have had the dumbest person in SL as a high court judge in SL

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            They are totta babas, Sinhalese are the villains, they react, we provoke.
            Nice theory viggie, may triple gem bless Mahinda saving us from these vultures.
            If you bring back the army, they will have field day!

            There should be coulle of sinhalese villages in Jaffna so they can mix with sinhalese.

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              Srinath.gunaratne

              “There should be coulle of sinhalese villages in Jaffna so they can mix with sinhalese.”

              Why?

              Actually you should bring more Biharis/Bengli and settle them among the Sinhalese so they can increase their population to withstand onslaught of Tamil Nadu (85 M). Or as many Chinese as possible.

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          Dear Dr RN

          It it a well calculated move by the Tamil political masters. They know that any warming up of relations between Sinhala and Tamil populations is inimical to any hoped for “political solution”.

          Accountability is the very antitheses of truth and reconciliation and reconciliation is the very antitheses of devolution and Ealam project.

          It was 1957 and I was 12 years old. What I overheard was terrifying to me as a child. Tamils have made parcels of cut off breasts of our women and sending them to Colombo in the return train from Jafna! This diabolical lie was created with a purpose and it certainly worked.

          This “genocide” is infinitely more diabolical than the 1957 lie. If you honestly believe that there really was calculated “genocide” it is one thing. But if not and if you are taking it lightly you are not acting responsibly. Doctor, if the international community is to accept this we the war generation will certainly have to do some accounting while the Tamil political masters behind LTTE are off the hook. That however is temporary. But if future generations of Tamils are to believe this canard fissure is permanent. It may help divide the island into two political systems and you have achieved your goal. If the Sinhalese are to believe that it was achieved through unjustified means and the Tamil hearts are venomous at that stage the Snhalese will demand that ALL Tamil speaking people will have to move physically into the “separate state”. Genocide or not, for the moment no Tamil (or Muslim) in areas outside North and East seems to be voluntarily taking the move including Mr Sumathitharan and Vingeshwaran’s family.

          Soma

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            Dear Soma,

            We are of approximately the same age, going by the fact that you were 12 years old in 1958. I read Tarzie Vitachie’s Emergency ’58 that was procured by my father soon thereafter. I understand how the 1957 riots were triggered and executed, and the role of those like C.P.De Silva.

            The last war and the events of the past three decades or even longer should be investigated and the report must be part of our recorded history. This should be an exercise in soul searching and aimed at discovering the truth as accurately as possible. However, this exercise should not be partisan nor aimed at condemning one community or other. Understanding the past better, will help us reconcile with the ugly aspects of our past.
            The truth may be shocking, but it will help us heal. Only our polticians and militants should stand condemned by history for the dastardly leadership they have provided.

            Both parties have commited grave crimes during the civil war and their heinousness cannot be judged from only one perspective. The action and reaction explanation to what happened and is happening now, will never end. It will be like the chicken and egg story. Let us relegate the past for study and record, while proceeding to chart a new course as a nation of many communities. Let us learn to forgive, if not forget. We have to live together, come what may. Let us also not create obstacles to impede new possibilities that have appeared miraculously on the horizon. We were a drowning people and have at least a stick to hang on to now. Let us not throw away that stick too, through our foolishness, if not perversity. Let us not provide ammunition to the predators in both communities to create conditions for further turbulence, mistrust and violence.

            Dr,RN

            Dr.Rajasingham Narendran

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              “However, this exercise should not be partisan nor aimed at condemning one community or other.”

              But Dr.RN this is exactly what it is..

              1. Will LTTE operatives who have hid in many western countries come out and stand in any war crime investigation?
              2. Will LTTE fundraisers be questioned in war crimes?
              3. Will any tamils who supported and GAVE FUNDS for terrorist acts stand in investigations? Canada alone sent 2 million $ to LTTE every month. Will they be responsible too?
              4. Will Adele balasigham who supported recruiting tamil children as soldiers be questioned?
              5. Will tamil organisations which used to be LTTE front organisations stand in inquiry?
              6. Will western based HR organisations stand in the inquiry of how they supported LTTE?
              7. Will SLMM stand in inquiry of how they supported LTTE during ceasefire?
              8. Will Eric Solheim stand in inquiry for aiding LTTE to do war crimes against people of SL?
              9. Will India, and TN leaders stand in inquiry for cross border terrorism?
              10. Will UN officials stand in inquiry on how they helped LTTE ?

              Then we can think of a non partisan investigation.

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                sach

                Those whom you mentioned in your 1-10 laundry list should submit themselves to Investigation.

                There are others whom you completely ignored:

                Hindian establishment which supported, trained, armed, & financed all the Tamil groups.

                IPKF

                All other Tamil armed groups

                JVP for its atrocities against civilians and armed forces, and for war mongering.

                Armed forces which had been heavily involved since 5th April 1971

                Premadasa’s surviving advisers (including Dayan) military or otherwise for propping up LTTE.

                MR for his greatly admired donation to VP.

                All war crime deniers.

                All commentators who inflict mental cruelty on fellow forum sharers in CT and elsewhere, particularly you and like minded stupids.

                Would that be all?

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                  Are you that stupid to include JVP and 71 in a war crime investigation relating to SL-Tamil war? And idiot read what I wrote, I have already mentioned your Hindia.

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                    Dear Sach,

                    There are some valid points that are raised by the Tamil non Veddha in his own laundry list.

                    Include those as well in a future comment.

                    Kind Regards,
                    OTC

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                  ha ha
                  ‘All commentators who inflict mental cruelty on fellow forum sharers in CT and elsewhere, particularly you and like minded stupids. ‘

                  LOL!

                  Did I hurt you dear? cant be, i used to be an animal lover :P

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                    sach

                    So you too have a sense of humour. Thats unexpected of a tight a***d racist.

                    “Did I hurt you dear? cant be, i used to be an animal”

                    Nothing will hurt me because I was born with unusually thick skin. I am familiar with all kinds of animals than you ever dream of. By the way are you a pedigree of the Bengali lion?

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        Off the cuff

        You are making off the cuff the remarks!!

        The CM’s speech is brilliant. He articulates and speaks up the mindset of the people of the NE.

        This is the only country that ignores constituition (I mean the 13th amendment) and this is the only country that permits its military to illegally capture and occupy poor peoples land and home.

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          Dear Real Peace,

          Re “You are making off the cuff the remarks!!”

          Ha ha, My pseudonym is my own choosing. Don’t be mislead by it. It is insufficient to say what you say. I can do that in return.

          You need to prove what you say, as I will, if I choose to call you an Idiot. (that was just an argument, I am not calling you an idiot yet).

          Re “The CM’s speech is brilliant. He articulates and speaks up the mindset of the people of the NE”

          Yes he BRILLIANTLY plays to the gallery. And if what you say about the MINDSET is true, (I hope it is not) then no one can save them.

          Re “This is the only country that ignores constituition (I mean the 13th amendment)”

          It may surprise you to hear that I am a supporter of the 13 th amendment. But with certain modifications that will provide uncompromised equality to all Lankans.

          But I doubt you know what you are writing about as the 13A recognises the National Ethnic Ratio which you don’t.

          No Tamil political party has declared their support for it. Hence until they do you have no case to argue.

          Re “….and this is the only country that permits its military to illegally capture and occupy poor peoples land and home”

          Those homes you are writing about was occupied by the LTTE. They gave the best to their Maveerans not to the Tamil population. You could not do anything that displeased them. Torture and Death was the reward for any dissension.

          Before making sweeping statements about the world study a little. In particular study about the Chagosians and their country and how the WHOLE country was depopulated (cleansed of all indigenous humans) to make way for a Military occupation. That country is to date a military base and will remain so for the foreseeable future.

          Please engage with me after you study the Chagosians.

          Kind Regards,
          OTC

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          Army doesnt capture land now. The land was captured during war as a security measure. It is in places where land was captured that army could minimise civilian deaths.

          Army has lands captured in two ways.
          1. Land captured by army directly from ppl.
          2. Land captured by LTTE was captured by army..

          So these are security measures. North is the significant and security sensitive area in SL. So there will be more security arrangements in north undoubtedly.

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        Off the Cuff

        An excellent specimen of the Misguided Sinhalese Moron. Unfortunately too primitive or too dishonest to see past his own self interest.

        It is not the writer of the article that’s bumbling down a confrontational path; you are.

        I have also written another comment, just for you. Please do read it.

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          Dear “Sinhalese”

          Name calling is easy but proving what you say is not.
          I can call you by many names but I do that only if I can prove it.

          I have responded to all three of your comments. It has not appeared yet but it will be available at this link when it does.

          https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/we-feel-very-strongly-against-the-continued-stay-of-armed-forces/comment-page-1/#comment-1782915

          Kind Regards,
          OTC

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            Name calling is easy but proving what you say is not.

            just another [Edited out] mercenary masquerading as the other.
            [Edited out]

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              Just like ct has to pull the plug- oh the exile folk I forgot can also be vindictive race at times to prove they are bossing european western charity spoils-

              come cT tell us your sane on this script- all men lie isnt it???

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          such a plural sinhalese! may you win more and more praise from plural (LOL) tamils

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        Off the cuff – In your reply to Dr. Narendran, we disagree with
        you on some points raised in your reply.
        1. If Ltte had minimum of 100,000 child soldiers, how many do you think they had in total,600,000, 700,000,or 800,000.and did the armed forces fight against the child soldiers for 30 years !!as the total, as far as we know, and heard ,the truth is that Ltte had about 15,000 soldiers in all and child soldiers did menial services in Ltte uniform and did not fight in the frontline.Former
        Ltte front line commander Karuna, confidant of the former regime, confirmed this figure in the parliament

        2. It is not C.M, Wigge who wanted the Tamils to vote for MS but TNA, as they expected, Mr.Sirisena will look into priorities like
        restriction of armed forces in N/E in peace time to a required amount and not one on every door step and release the confiscated farm lands for cultivation.

        3.The genocide resolution was brought to the knowledge of the people inland and overseas because word spread around that govt.
        looked into the priorities Tamils wanted, solved, but nothing of
        that sort happened and Tamils are back to square one.

        Please get briefed properly before you embark on criticising the
        actions of minorities.

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          Dear Lanka Watch,

          Thank you for your reply. I will try to meet your arguments.

          The Child Soldier numbers were based on three facts.

          1. The LTTE has been abducting Children for soldiering since it’s inception (please see UTHR (Jaffna) reports).

          2. They were doing this for nearly 30 years.

          3. Mr. J Aguilar of UNICEF was interviewed on BBC HardTalk by BBC correspondent Stephen Sackur (Video 3:28 onwards http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gXbFPoDWSI).

          Aguilar says that they have reports of about 8000 missing children. He also states that this is just a minute fraction of what went on (4:20 onwards). He also states that during the last 6 months at least 200 children per month were taken from their parents for the war effort including 9 year olds (4:38 onwards).

          If 8000 is a minute fraction even 80,000 is just 10 times and 8,000 which is 1/10, does not qualify as a minute fraction. It is 10% of the whole. If the number is a 100,000 then the fraction becomes 8% which is still a far cry from a minute fraction.

          If we assume the LTTE was involved in this practice for only 25 years of the 30, then that number means 4000 child abductions per year a very conservative estimate favouring the LTTE. The real number would be much larger.

          I know it is shocking when you realize the exact magnitude of the Tamil Genocide because these are children that we are talking about who would have grown up to be adults and produced children of their own. The Genocide is a Geometric progression and the numbers are unfathomable.

          All this was possible because of the cowards who stayed at a safe distance and sent an annual collection in excess of US$ 300 million to the LTTE (Jane’s Defense), without lifting even a threatening finger of warning to the LTTE to desist from abducting Tamil Children or face a cut off of funds.

          Today these same cowards and those who are led by the nose are shouting Genocide without making a single call to hold the Commander, Recruiter and Trainer who commissioned the Baby Brigade by garlanding these children with a Cyanide capsule necklace.

          Ms. Adele Balasingham is living in UK, right under the nose of the BTF, GTF and other world wide Tamil organisations that contributed the USD300 million annually for this Genocidal carnage.

          What is the difficulty in bringing her to account at the ICC for war crimes? She is within arms reach, there is no shortage of photographic evidence you don’t have to FABRICATE a ch4 video, the BBC library has actual footage. Apparently, those who are shouting “Genocide” from abroad fear that an investigation will implicate them (the snake’s head).

          The NPC Genocide resolution is a political ruse because it ignores what the LTTE did to exterminate Tamils willfully. Not by accident but WILLFULLY.

          Re “It is not C.M, Wigge who wanted the Tamils to vote for MS but TNA,… ”

          That is a very lame excuse Lanka Watch and I believe you know it.

          Re “… as they expected, Mr.Sirisena will look into priorities like restriction of armed forces in N/E in peace time to a required amount and not one on every door step and release the confiscated farm lands for cultivation”

          How can they expect that when Maithree said unequivocally that ALL camps will remain (to counter MR’s Core campaign issue of impending separation) BEFORE the election?

          The TNA supported MS because they primarily wanted strong man Douglas Devananda out. The Governor with a military background out. The Tamil NPC Secretary with whom CM Wigs could not get along out. They got all of it within weeks, something they could not get for 10 years. They knew if MR won all those people that had the NPC in chains will continue at least for another 8 years and 2 months but had the potential for going on for several decades.

          The Northern province is the third largest province in the Island. It’s area is 8,884 sq km which is 13.54% of Lanka (Can accommodate ALL of Lanka’s Tamils though only 5.22% of Lanka’s population live there). The population density is 120 per sq km.

          This was an area that was under a Terrorist organisation that attempted secession by force of arms just 5 years ago. Still the signals coming from there and overseas on secession is the same. Armed forces are there to protect the integrity of the Land as well as the safety of the people. It’s duty is thus two fold. The numbers therefore have to cater to both needs.

          I will be happy to explain anything that you want which pertains to what I have written. If you can prove anything that I have said is incorrect, I will be happy to stand corrected.

          Re “Please get briefed properly before you embark on criticising the actions of minorities”

          That advice cuts both ways.
          However I do have a lot of information about Tamil people gathered mainly from Tamil sources who have disclosed their experiences on the Internet. What most Tamils write on CT is far removed from the Truth. As I said before, I will stand corrected if anyone proves me wrong factually and backed by references.

          Kind Regards,
          OTC

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          “The genocide resolution was brought to the knowledge of the people inland and overseas because word spread around that govt. looked into the priorities Tamils wanted, solved, but nothing of that sort happened and Tamils are back to square one. “\

          And not because there was a genocide?

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        Off The Cuff

        Yet another thought provoking comment . Keep up the good work , much appreciated .

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          Dr.Goebells

          “Yet another thought provoking comment . Keep up the good work , much appreciated .”

          You are being cruel to Off The Cuff.

          Please stop being sarcastic, which he/she cannot grasp.

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        If the president says that he will not remove any of the army camp from the North, he is declaring war on the Tamils. When he came to the North and begged for the Tamil votes, he did not say anything.. He did not even acknowledge to the people of North of his victory was due to them. How do you call that man?

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      There is little doubt the new dispensation of Sirisena-Ranil-Mangala S and TNA/Viggie’s NPC have a difficult act to perform against hawks on both sides. In fairness to both sides, one must concede both sides are trying to heal deep and painful wounds. A little excess in rhetoric on both sides due to the dynamics of realpolitik, in the circumstances, is to be expected. The country’s problems are so vast and numerical no single political leadership can bring in even some form of solution even to half the burning issues. How can a country that is unable to market the daily necessity of a coconut (now in the region of Rs.80 from the affordable Rs.25) be expected to resolve far complex issues.

      The truth is our politicians have failed us. Those who came to save us from “rogues” have turned worst rogues and in robbing the meagre resources of the nation have bankrupted the country. Francis Fukuyama will have to re-do his thinking on his “End of History – the last man” theory. The tragedy is many Sinhalese have not still understood the rogues and opportunists within their midst.

      CM Vigneswaren’s thoughts need to be properly understood by the entire Sinhala political leadership, including the clergy. Salvation is within reach. Do we have what it takes to achieve this golden dream?

      R. Varathan

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    Justice Wigneswaran, to me it appears that you have realized your mistake of passing the Genocide Resolution and you are trying hard to make it right. But this article is too little too late, but its a good beginning. You basically shot yourself in the foot with your worst timed resolution. In politics its the votes that count. As you know well Ranil’s Government needs the support and votes of the majority Sinhalese to hang on to power. In order to do it Ranil should walk a thin line. As you mention in this article Ranil-Maithree Government has given into your requests and shown their goodwill towards you. But what did you do, you followed the Tiger Flag carrying diaspora pressure and presented the resolution.

    Military has to be back in the barracks, not removed because you have created a doubt even in the minds of those southerners who were partial towards you. The ball now is in your court to prove that you are not a separatist.

    I am one who was delighted that you were elected as Chief Minister and thought you will teach all the other Politicians in SL how to be a Honest Politician. But your resolution, which I think is a thankless act on your part has earned you the name Unjust(ice) Wigneswaran.

    You now have to wait for some time until the waves you have created at the NPC calms down in the South before Ranil-Maithri government can call the army back into the barracks. To remove the army from the North is going to take time.

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      Ranil’s having to walk the thin line is the consequence of his own lack of discretion when he decided to give subtle support in an incendiary way to those hardliners who were against the constitutional amendments that was initiated by President CBK when she held office. Now having come a full circle Ranil W is experiencing opposition from the same sources and crying “not fair”, that is the point which CM of the NPC was making.Why complain?
      Learn the hard way!

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        constitutional amendments that was initiated by President CBK when she held office.???

        please elaborate

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      Dear Park,

      Good comment.
      I too was happy when Wigs was elected.
      I thought that his training as a SC Judge will ensure Justice for all.
      Instead he is making inflammatory speeches and rattling the sword.
      Sumanthiran and Sambandan is in the hot seat for attending the Independence day celebrations.

      Wigneswaran’s talk of OUR land makes one wonder what is the land of the rest? Is it the same or different? Thus his speech is clearly separatist.

      His “Genocide” resolution is silent on the 100,000 plus child soldiers. The silence makes one wonder whether the parents, brothers and sisters of those child soldiers are living or dead.

      Kind Regards,
      OTC

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        I notice this “Cuff” was mentioning “100,000 child soldiers’ in his comments in couple of places as an absolute fact. I guess this man belongs to the group of people who called UN officers or members of UN panel as liars when they were saying 40,000 or even 100,000 Tamil civilian casualties by SL Gov. humanitarian operation..

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          Please get your facts right.

          UN never said 40000 died. UN said there are allegations. The first one to bring this up was Gordon Weiss who did not even visit war zone.

          And in UN report itself they have mentioned, they cannot confirm the figure.

          The 100000 claim was by [Edited out]Joseph and not UN

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            Sach,

            “UN never said 40000 died”

            Get your facts correct.

            “An earlier UN report estimated that as many as 40,000 civilians were killed in the final phase alone, mostly by government shelling.” http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-31434613

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              BBC news reports are wrong most of the time taking things from second hand tamil sources.
              UN report never say they have estimated 40,000 deaths.

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                Anpu

                Some believe pain is a liberating force. I am beginning think you are enjoying or trying your best to liberate yourself by bearing pain. I thought I might as well share your pain hoping that liberation comes sooner than later. Here is the information you have been looking for:

                Report of the UN Secretary General’s (UNSG) Panel of Experts on Accountability in Sri Lanka

                Section D: Disputing IDP Figures as a basis to deny humanitarian assistance

                Page 41

                Point 137

                http://www.un.org/News/dh/infocus/Sri_Lanka/POE_Report_Full.pdf

                While an accurate civilian death toll may never be known, a 2011 United Nations investigation revealed that up to 40,000 civilians had likely been killed in the final five months of the conflict alone; others have suggested, however, that this figure could be even higher.

                huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/13/

                The bitter controversy surrounding the final stages of the Sri Lankan government’s operation to crush separatist rebels has been reopened after a former UN official claimed that up to 40,000 civilians may have been killed.

                independent.co.uk/

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                  Thanks Native Vedda

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                  Dear Tamil Non Veddha,

                  You have quoted the UNSG’s POE Report as if it is a document where TRUTH Reigns Supreme.

                  How do you explain the following,

                  Mr. Darusman, Ms. Yasmin Sooka and Mr. Steven Ratner the UNSG’s Experts state,

                  237. Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions: Credible allegations point to a violation of Common Article 3’s ban on the taking of hostages insofar as they forced thousands of civilians, often under threat of death, to remain in areas under their control during the last stages of the war and enforced this control by killing persons who attempted to leave that area. (With respect to the credible allegations of the LTTE’s refusal to allow civilians to leave the combat zone, the Panel believes that these actions did not, in law, amount to the use of human shields insofar as it did not find credible evidence of the LTTE deliberately moving civilians towards military targets to protect the latter from attacks as is required by the customary definition of that war crime (Rule 97, ICRC Study)

                  Rome Statute of the ICC state,
                  Article 8
                  War crimes
                  2(b)(xxiii) Utilizing the presence of a civilian or other protected person to render certain points, areas or military forces immune from military operations; (page 7)

                  This is what is known as a Human Shield

                  The Rome Statute does not require “MOVEMENT”.
                  The UNSG”S POE has CORRUPTED THE ICC LAW about a Human Shield.

                  Were they BRIBED to do so?

                  Kind Regards,
                  OTC

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          Dear Alahakoon,

          The question that you raise about the 100,000 child soldiers has been answered in detail in my response to Lanka Watch. Please refer to it. Here is the Link.

          https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/we-feel-very-strongly-against-the-continued-stay-of-armed-forces/comment-page-1/#comment-1783059
          .

          Re “I guess this man belongs to the group of people who called UN officers or members of UN panel as liars when they were saying 40,000 or even 100,000 Tamil civilian casualties by SL Gov. humanitarian operation’

          I am going to reproduce TWO excerpts from Public Documents available on the Internet from the UN and the ICC. I have commented extensively on this but in view of your charge I will refrain from making any comment until you give yours in your next comment. I expect you to give your honest opinion without any delay. Many avoids an answer (including so called famous Human Rights activists) but You are an honest person and hence will reply within a couple of days.

          Rome Statute of the ICC.
          Article 8
          War crimes
          2(b)(xxiii) Utilizing the presence of a civilian or other protected person to render certain points, areas or military forces immune from military operations; (page 7)

          This is what is known as a Human Shield

          UNSG’s POE report of Mr. Darusman, Ms. Yasmin Sooka and Mr. Steven Ratner state,

          237. Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions: Credible allegations point to a violation of Common Article 3’s ban on the taking of hostages insofar as they forced thousands of civilians, often under threat of death, to remain in areas under their control during the last stages of the war and enforced this control by killing persons who attempted to leave that area. (With respect to the credible allegations of the LTTE’s refusal to allow civilians to leave the combat zone, the Panel believes that these actions did not, in law, amount to the use of human shields insofar as it did not find credible evidence of the LTTE deliberately moving civilians towards military targets to protect the latter from attacks as is required by the customary definition of that war crime (Rule 97, ICRC Study)

          Do you see a conflict or a deliberate attempt to prostitute the ICC Statute by the above section of the POE report?

          Kind Regards,
          OTC

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    I would like to know what the C.M (and the diaspora)thinks will happen if the armed forces are withdrawn from the North and East. What I think in my humble mind is that President Sirisena will have played straight into the hands of the Rajapaksas, Weerawansas, Bodu Balas, and other Southern extremists. That will change the whole course of what the nation is now trying to do. It boggles my mind why these people cannot see this. Very simple!! With the upcoming Parliamentary elections, which this administration can beat narrowly, this kind of stupidity is all we need.

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      Therefore Mr.soysa, you are meaning to tell that all the Tamils in the North should be exterminated because of Rajapaksas and Weerawansa and resettle the Sinhalese under the pretext of the security of the Country. Please tell me one good reason as to you need such an extensive strength of the Army over 100,000 in the North itself and taking over 11 villages of lands depriving the owners who have no other way of living except farming and fishing. What Ranil and Sirisena doing now is more extremism. How do you call grabbing private lands under the guise of Security zones. How could the owners get these lands by soft power or Hard power.

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        Army has not grabbed any land recently or even after the war. But army retains the land they captured before while at war. These are two different things.

        North is the most security sensitive area in SL and will remain in the future as it had been for the thousands of years in the past. North will have special security arrangements.

        No country had removed army from a former warzone this soon. SL has actually acted better than rest of the world.

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      “I would like to know what the C.M (and the diaspora)thinks will happen if the armed forces are withdrawn from the North and East.”

      Widowed women will have a sigh of relief and parents will not worry about their school going girls so much until they come home.

      Regular civilians will be able to be a part of the economy from agriculture to tourism without the military taking that over. Civilians cannot compete with them, one because they are state subsidized, two they are muzzling civilians to submission with military power.

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      Hora_Oru Soot sayer,

      Satan oscillate my metallic sonatas.

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      k.soysa

      “I would like to know what the C.M (and the diaspora)thinks will happen if the armed forces are withdrawn from the North and East.”

      If you are concerned about the demand for Thamil Eelam, nothing will happen so long as the the state of Sri Lanka does not antagonise and remains friendly to Hindia.

      “What I think in my humble mind is that President Sirisena will have played straight into the hands of the Rajapaksas, Weerawansas, Bodu Balas, and other Southern extremists.”

      The Sinhala/Buddhist have been suffering from paranoia for a long time, their brain is infested with perceived threat from Hindia, Tamils, Tamil Diaspora, USA, neo-conservatives, International Conspiracy, ….. 80 million Tamils across Palk strait and their own Sinhala/Buddhist shadow.

      At least he is doing the right thing.

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    Dear Mr Wigneswaran, CM NP,

    Re “Earlier the point of contact of the Ministers from the Central Government was a Minister who ran his Establishment from a Theater close by”

    You are making an Understatement. You were reduced to a puppet when he was ruling the roost. Here is a reminder of what you were then.

    Watch the three videos of the District Development Council meeting of the Northern Province where you were reduced to a mere spectator.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCBWqJ0WOCU
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNpzECALZBU
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y84QZcPU3nY

    What Maithree did by removing Douglas Devanada, the man who you fear even to name, was to unshackle you from your chains.

    You and the NP govt tried all it’s tactics to get rid of the former Governor of the NP who had a military background. For 10 years you failed. Within weeks of the govt change a civilian governor was appointed.

    Quote from Hindu newspaper

    “The Tamil-controlled provincial administration has long accused the outgoing Governor of preventing them from functioning freely and running a parallel local government.

    The Tamil National Alliance (TNA) had, for long, been appealing to the Sri Lankan government to replace Mr. Chandrasiri – who has a military background – with a civilian governor for the province. Despite the party’s repeated requests, President Mahinda Rajapaksa reappointed Mr. Chandrasiri in July 2014, enabling him to continue in the same position.

    Northern Province Chief Minister C.V. Wigneswaran, had then voiced concern over the excessive powers vested in the Governor of the province who was reporting directly to the President. Despite holding elections to the Province in September 2013, and the Tamils democratically electing their Chief Minister, the Provincial Council was not allowed to function smoothly, according to TNA members.

    Retd. Major General Chandrasiri’s replacement now, that too with a seasoned diplomat, signals a change in course of the Sri Lankan government under President Maithripala Sirisena’s leadership.”
    Unquote

    Please don’t try to play down what the govt did for you and the NP.

    Re “Within three weeks let us hope that our suffering and deprived dear brothers and sisters would be able to go back to their own lands. ”

    Hopefully that will start from the Muslims and the Sinhalese who were ethnically cleansed from the North. As they have been dispossessed the longest, long before the army camps came into existence.

    Re “The Army must not be allowed to be parasitic on us”

    My goodness Wigs can’t you see that it is you and your following who are the parasites?

    If not for the sacrifices made by the army could you have even stepped into the North and open your mouth as freely as you are doing now?

    Re “They are cultivating our fertile lands for their benefit; they are using our good water and depriving us of our water in an area where water is precious. They are polluting our areas with their waste;”

    Is it not their land too?

    Your utterances are tolerable if it came from the mouth of Prabahkaran but not from a former SC Judge!

    Re “they are a source of irritation and fear in our midst”

    Perhaps you would have been more comfortable in the Midst of the megalomaniac Prabahkaran? Did you visit him when he controlled these areas? Did you make any speeches such as you are doing now?

    Re “Recent public pronouncements that even a single Army Camp would not be withdrawn even if it was for the consumption of the Southern Electorate could have been avoided. It had the effect of our response by passing a Resolution on Genocide”

    Confrontation once again

    Re “Please remember we feel very strongly against the continued stay of the Armed Forces in our areas. Until they are removed except in areas of strategic importance we would feel threatened”

    Dear Mr Wigneswaran, If Jaffna is your Area what is our area?
    You cultivate land in our area.
    You are using OUR good water.
    You are using OUR infrastructure
    You are soiling OUR area with your waste.
    When Will you leave our area?

    I hope you can see the fires that you are trying to ignite.

    You see Mr Wigneswaran, you are pandering to the Separatist and Terrorists. Till you learn to understand and allay the fears of the rest of the population, what you say and do for the consumption of the Separatists and Terrorists around you will ensure that the Armed Forces will remain til the rest of the population is satisfied that the hard fought peace will not be threatened by Myopic Politicians such as you.

    Kind Regards,
    OTC

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      Off the Cuff

      I have addressed the points you’ve made in the order that you made them. I numbered them for your reading pleasure:

      1. So the writer did not call himself a “puppet.” He has made it abundantly clear that he is grateful for the positive changes brought in by the new Government at the start of the article. Surely, he does not need to grovel with gratitude in an article concerning demilitarization as the topic of the article is not “Hosanna to the new Government.” Perhaps your real problem is that you feel he’s overstepping his rightful place, you know, being a minority and all.

      2. The Sinhalese and the Muslims were evicted by the LTTE. The writer is not representative of the LTTE. Therefore, both issues have nothing to do with the one the writer has addressed which concerns land grabs by the previous “government.” What’s with the gas-lighting? The previous “government” was not sanctioned to behave like a terrorist organization, right? Therefore, the writer’s indignation is justified.

      3. It’s evident that the writer’s lack of gratitude, it a veritable thorn in your sense of self aggrandizement. Which is why you’ve devoted your entire 3rd point to it as well as your 1st.

      4. Actually, since the writer has clearly indicated that the Tamil citizens HAVE DEEDS for the land used by the army; your ridiculous comment is moot. No OTC since they have deeds, although the army can temporarily occupy land in times of necessity; it’s not the army’s land too.

      5. Gosh isn’t the writer simply ungrateful; it is a veritable thorn in your sense of self aggrandizement. Which is why you’ve devoted your entire 5th point to it as well.

      6. Yes that act could be viewed as confrontational. But it also could be an expression of suffering which the Tamil people now have the freedom to express under the new Government.

      7. If they have deeds to the plots of land that make up the area that is Jaffna; then YES; it is their area. Our citizens have a right to call land that they have a deed for; their own. Sri Lanka is not a circus act, we’ve got real laws and everything.

      I’m not sure how your blatantly racist, ugly comments challenge their rights to land that is legally owned by them. This comment simply exposes you for the imbecile that you are, OTC you MORON.

      The only “fires” the article has ignited seems to be the fires of racism that has unfortunately fried your brain. Such a pity.

      8. I see you have kept your daftest comment for the last, excellent. The writer has clearly stated that he is NOT a separatist. He says: “we would strive to bring about a settlement within a united Sri Lanka” He’s used the word UNITED.

      Now OTC, do tell me where you read comments indicative of him “pandering” to the “separatists” and the “terrorists”? Is your reasoning so flawed that you cannot read a simple article and comprehend what it says like a human being?

      Please do refrain from sprouting racist drivel and try to evolve. Do us, the non-racist, human race of the Sinhalese Buddhists this favor.

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        Dear “Sinhalese”

        Thank you for all three comments.

        Reading through your comment what struck me is your anger on behalf of the LTTE.

        The “Re” stands for Regarding and the italicized text is what I am commenting about. I have only 7 such entries and you have 8 numbered items. Hence your numbering is undecipherable since your text have no substance that I can connect with what I have written.

        Re “So the writer did not call himself a “puppet.””

        Did I say he did?
        You must be hallucinating!

        No he didn’t say that and I jolted his memory with 3 video clips of the DDC meeting he co-chaired with Douglas Deva where he was reduced to a mere spectator, in order to bring home an inescapable event, that will take place in 2 months time, if he wakes up the separatist dragon in the minds of 5% of the Minority of the Majority (34.43%) who voted MS. That is all that is required for a MR win.

        Re “The Sinhalese and the Muslims were evicted by the LTTE”

        Yes but the LAND is owned by the evicted Muslims and Sinhalese not only by the Tamils. It should be given back first because the released lands may include them. Anyway the NPC does not represent ONLY Tamils. Hence they cannot ignore the rights of the evicted Muslims and Sinhalese. If you say they can then think of the Tamils living in the other 8 provinces. Should these provinces safeguard the rights of Tamils?

        Re ” It’s evident that the writer’s lack of gratitude, it a veritable thorn in your sense of self aggrandizement. Which is why you’ve devoted your entire 3rd point to it as well as your 1st”

        The third item that I discuss is Re “The Army must not be allowed to be parasitic on us”

        Hence you are hallucinating again.

        Re “Actually, since the writer has clearly indicated that the Tamil citizens HAVE DEEDS for the land used by the army; your ridiculous comment is moot. No OTC since they have deeds, although the army can temporarily occupy land in times of necessity; it’s not the army’s land too.”

        Deeds have to be established in courts. Anyone can forge deeds. Especially when records are destroyed and confusion reigns.
        Are you such a simpleton? Is it your contention that the evicted Muslims and Sinhalese had no deeds and were squatters?

        Re “Gosh isn’t the writer simply ungrateful; it is a veritable thorn in your sense of self aggrandizement. Which is why you’ve devoted your entire 5th point to it as well”

        The fifth item that I discuss is Re “they are a source of irritation and fear in our midst”

        Hence you are hallucinating again.

        Re “Yes that act could be viewed as confrontational. But it also could be an expression of suffering which the Tamil people now have the freedom to express under the new Government”

        There is no room for you to interpret. There is no “could be”.
        CM Wigneswaran has admitted it was a Tit for Tat, in other words CONFRONTATION. (I hope that was an oversight and not due to a handicap!)

        The objective should be the preservation of the hard fought electoral victory. If that is to be squandered then shoot off the mouth and face the consequences.

        The rest of what you have written are irrelevant excuses on behalf of the ITAK.

        Re “If they have deeds to the plots of land that make up the area that is Jaffna; then YES; it is their area. Our citizens have a right to call land that they have a deed for; their own. Sri Lanka is not a circus act, we’ve got real laws and everything”

        I believe you have got your knickers in a twist.

        The Northern Province is not wholly OWNED by private individuals. Only a small part of it has private ownership. It is the same for all provinces. Only about 20% of Lanka is Privately owned. In the Northern province it is much less as the population density is less. State owns in excess of 80% of Land. That means owned collectively by ALL Lankan Citizens.

        Thus CM Wigs cannot call state land his area.
        That was the reason I asked him “Dear Mr Wigneswaran, If Jaffna is your Area what is our area?”

        You need to know what you are writing about before tapping at the keyboard. If you are unsure of your facts it’s stupid to be aggressive.

        The NPC resolution is about Genocide.
        Thus there cannot be a distinction on account of who does it.
        If there is, then the charge is frivolous and is politics.
        Then it is not due to any Humanitarian concerns.

        LTTE destroyed a minimum 100,000 Tamil children and that is genocide.

        If you don’t talk about it, you are either talking politics or is afraid to talk about it.

        BTW though you use “Sinhalese” as a pseudonym the tail gives you away.

        Now that you have my explanation you can direct that venom of yours looking at the mirror.

        Kind Regards,
        OTC

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          Excellent, OTC. The pseudo-“Sinhalese” are running around like headless chickens during an MBRL barrage :D

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            Siva Sankaran Sarma,

            “The pseudo-“Sinhalese” are running around like headless chickens during an MBRL barrage”

            What are you then? You are every bit a moron like OTC and such :D

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              GGP tamil racists find difficult to stomach any sinhala criticism…not a surprise

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              Dear Burning Issue,

              Another coward.

              He is Siva Sankaran Sarma and from his name I suspect he is a Tamil. He has not claimed to be a Sinhalese, to be called a Pseudo Sinhalese has he?

              Kind Regards,
              OTC

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                OTC,

                Exhibiting your gullibility on public forum are we? Please grow up. Siva Sankaran Sarma is not a Tamil but a Sinhala Chauvinist; it is an open secret on these forums!

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                  Dear Burning Issue,

                  Re “Exhibiting your gullibility on public forum are we? Please grow up. Siva Sankaran Sarma is not a Tamil but a Sinhala Chauvinist; it is an open secret on these forums!”

                  I go by facts not by “Open Secrets”.
                  Just advance your reasons as to why you say he is not a Tamil.

                  Kind Regards,
                  OTC

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                    OTC

                    siva sankaran Sharma(sss)is an unusual name for a tamil from srilanka. be it indian or Srilankan tamil.

                    Siva sankara sharma is probably the correct grammatical way of writing it. besides Sivan and sankaran denotes the same deity. It is a quite unusual combination.

                    Therefore burning issue is right in calling SSS an imposter.

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                      Ken,

                      Thank you,

                      On the Internet everyone is anonymous. I know Burning Issue is a Tamil because he has declared it and his writings confirm it but I don’t know his Tamil name neither do you but it is unimportant.

                      Looking at your name no one will know you are a Tamil but your writings indicate that probably you are. Again it is not important. The person who calls himself “Native Veddha” is no Veddha. Is he a Tamil, a Sinhalese a Burgher or Chetty? Is the guy who write as Aacharya a Sinhalese? Aacharya means a Teacher in Sinhala but is he Sinhala? He isn’t. He is a Tamil University Teacher of Jaffna Uni. It may be that the Tamil meaning is the same as the Sinhala meaning. He uses many other pseudonyms and he would have his reasons.

                      Has Burning Issue questioned any of them?
                      Anyone can assume any name.

                      I have come across many Tamils in real life who do not support separation and who are against the Homeland claim. They see the injustice of claiming 40% of Lanka for a Tamil population of under 8% living within it, when the rest of the Tamils 7.37% of them live amongst the Sinhalese. These Tamils would write against the run of the mill comments by those who favour separatism.

                      There are times when ethnicity and religion of the writer is relevant (that’s why I have declared mine).

                      Burning Issue accepts the guy who is calling himself “Sinhalese” as a Sinhala. Hence I cannot see why he should question Siva Sankaran because of an irrational “open Secret”.

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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          OTC – Misguided Moron

          1. You said: “Reading through your comment what struck me is your anger on behalf of the LTTE.”

          Your reasoning is flawed OTC. I never said I supported the LTTE. You say this because you see reality through the filter of your flawed reasoning. I truly pity you moron. I do not support terrorists and neither does the article writer on the basis of the article above. Didn’t I ask you to show me where the writer made statements to indicate supporting terrorist outfits as you alleged in your earlier comments? Why has your last comment evaded this? Either justify your unfounded statements or stop talking. Stop being such a coward as to talk without demonstrating the capacity to defend that talk.

          No normal human reading the article or my comments, would come to that conclusion that I support the LTTE or that the article writer supports LTTE. You thinking that is just your primitive paranoia talking, not facts. Human beings have the capability to rise above unfounded fears. Please do make a human attempt at this.

          2. You said: “The “Re” stands for Regarding and the italicized text is what I am commenting about. I have only 7 such entries and you have 8 numbered items. Hence your numbering is undecipherable since your text have no substance that I can connect with what I have written”

          Yet another example of your flawed reasoning. Entries with “re” are not quantifiable with the number of points you’ve made. In prose or debate, a “point” directs the readers attention to the position or direction of a train of thought, giving force or emphasis to the developments of the writer’s/debtor’s premises through the words used.

          I addressed the points you made, my numbers add up. Your whining about the the article writer’s lack of gratitude was focused on as recurring points, as it was raised several times in the midst of your babble.

          3. You said: “Re “So the writer did not call himself a “puppet.”” Did I say he did? You must be hallucinating!”

          Gosh, you really can’t read and comprehend can you. How is it you fail to see that I was commenting on your clear statement that the writer was a puppet in your opinion, and your clear implication that more gratitude on the part of the writer was called for?

          I find it depressing but immensely interesting to understand and engage in discussion with primitive intellects such as yours.

          4. Re “The Sinhalese and the Muslims were evicted by the LTTE” Yes but the LAND is owned by the evicted Muslims and Sinhalese not only by the Tamils. It should be given back first because the released lands may include them. Anyway the NPC does not represent ONLY Tamils. Hence they cannot ignore the rights of the evicted Muslims and Sinhalese. If you say they can then think of the Tamils living in the other 8 provinces. Should these provinces safeguard the rights of Tamils?”

          Gosh, you really can’t read and comprehend can you. How is it you fail to see that I was commenting on your inability to comment on the issue raised by the writer, which was the fact that grabbing privately owned land was wrong, an issue you were evading in your response?

          5. You said: Re ” It’s evident that the writer’s lack of gratitude, it a veritable thorn in your sense of self aggrandizement. Which is why you’ve devoted your entire 3rd point to it as well as your 1st” The third item that I discuss is Re “The Army must not be allowed to be parasitic on us” Hence you are hallucinating again.”

          Gosh, you really can’t read and comprehend can you. You also can’t count. Please refer to my point 2.

          6. You said: “Deeds have to be established in courts. Anyone can forge deeds. Especially when records are destroyed and confusion reigns. Are you such a simpleton? Is it your contention that the evicted Muslims and Sinhalese had no deeds and were squatters?”

          Oh my gosh. You really can’t think can you. So you’ve assumed by looking at the article though your flawed reasoning, that the writer is lying. Yes, that makes so much sense. I also never suggested that the “the evicted Muslims and Sinhalese had no deeds and were squatters.”

          7. You said: “The fifth item that I discuss is Re “they are a source of irritation and fear in our midst” Hence you are hallucinating again.”

          Please refer to point 2. I don’t feel the need to repeat myself.

          8. You said: “There is no room for you to interpret. There is no “could be”. CM Wigneswaran has admitted it was a Tit for Tat, in other words CONFRONTATION. (I hope that was an oversight and not due to a handicap!) The objective should be the preservation of the hard fought electoral victory. If that is to be squandered then shoot off the mouth and face the consequences. The rest of what you have written are irrelevant excuses on behalf of the ITAK.”

          Oh my gosh. You really are primitive. The point I was making is that there ARE two ways to look at it. A point you lack the mental development to grasp. One way of looking at it is through a primitive intellect such a yours. The other way is more evolved. It involves looking at the GR through a human intellect with empathy and logic which is the province and power of the human race. A race that you fail to reach the standard of.

          9. “I believe you have got your knickers in a twist etc.” I summarized your babble there, because nobody is going to want to read it twice.

          Again you demonstrate an inability to address the point at hand and go off on a tangent. How much land in Jaffna is owned by the state is not relevant, what is in discussion is army occupation of privately owned land belonging to Tamils. The rest of comment does not have any defended facts, it’s simple verbosely defending the indefensible. YAWN.

          10. Actually I am a Sinhalese. You however, are unfortunately NOT a Sinhalese. I do NOT consider you part of my race. You are in actuality a primitive aberration of the Sinhalese race.

          And it’s flawed reasoning such as yours that has been destroying my race, the Sinhalese race. For with your primitive mind, you create unnecessary conflicts with other races, that leads to the destruction of my race. Racism is founded on the premise of Nazi like fake nationalism, and is very primitive and destructive. It’s also simply not human. Your illogical rant in response to this article is an example.

          11. This is me adding a new point. OTC, you’re simply a primitive traitor to my race. I feel very sorry for you. Do make a human attempt to EVOLVE. Intellects evolve all the time, therefore it is possible although it is not probable. Start by considering the possibility that you are a destructive, primitive individual.

          Please do try as individuals like you are the real problem in this country. However, individuals like you are also a growing minority in this county. That’s the silver lining.

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            Dear “Sinhalese”,

            Land

            I have rechecked Wigneswaran’s speech with regards the above because of the position you have taken and repeated.

            Initially, I thought he was referring to Valikamam as a whole (85,000 Acres) when he said “Our Lands” but I see that I am wrong and he was referring to private owned lands. I stand corrected on that point.

            However his references to Our water, is not in the same vein as land. There is nothing Private with the water resource. It is Public property. He is out of line there and reflects a “Northern Province is for Tamils concept”. Which is what I am writing about.

            I believe that ALL of Lanka is For her citizens without any regard fer ethnicity or religion. There cannot be any “homelands” where either due to ethnicity or language or religion one or more groups have more rights than the others.

            I will deal with the rest of his speech when I return, later in the day.

            Kind Regards,
            OTC

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              OTC – Misguided Moron

              Okay so you were wrong about the privately owned land he was referring to. The fact that you admitted this; is positive.

              He was most likely talking about the limited natural resource of clean water in Jaffna. Hundreds of army personnel would logically impact on the availability of this resource for the citizens of Jaffna. That is the logical way of looking at it, not to connect that with a presumed “Northern Province is for Tamils concept” which is NOT substantiated by anything the writer has said. That connection, is your paranoia talking, it is not fact.

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                Dear “Sinhalese”,

                Re “The fact that you admitted this; is positive”

                Do not for a moment think that your uncouth, uncivilized, intimidatory, name calling and thuggery was the reason for my admission. It is my declared policy on any forum I contribute to. I will stand corrected IF I am proven wrong logically, supported by verifiable evidence. I am not ashamed to admit a mistake. It has been so long before you appeared on the scene on CT, as any truthful person (friend or foe) will testify.

                I am not prepared to subvert my principles just because you are unable to debate in a civilised manner. My principles are not limited to the word. I examined you point, verified it via maps and found it valid. Hence I accepted the point. I am not intimidated by any of your theatrical tactics. Please remember that.

                Re “He was most likely talking about the limited natural resource of clean water in Jaffna”

                Fresh water is a limited resource anywhere in the world. In the North fresh water is mostly ground water and has to be drawn up to the surface. But it is not CM Wig’s water nor is it the local population’s water. It’s a Public resource and hence owned EQUALLY by all Sri Lankans, where ever they are.

                CM Wigs can ask to SHARE that water. He can’t say “they are using our good water and depriving us of our water”

                The Army is in the North out of necessity and not for fun. They need water as much as the population needs it. Both have an equal right to it.

                Oil contamination of ground water in the North has gone on since 1987. Mr Wigs’ NPC govt came to power in September 2013. It is his NPC govt that has FULL control on Environment issues such as this. What did they do about it for 16 months?

                Kind Regards,
                OTC

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                  OTC – Misguided Moron

                  1. You said that the NPC government had full control of environment issues and you implied that they could have addressed the water issue anytime. That’s excellent news, I did not realize the NPC has so much power! Please prove that they have the legislative, economic power to address the oil contamination of ground water. Because political power is not just the power to speak for a community. Political power is the power to fix issues.

                  I agree that water is a public resource, however we all pay water bills. I hope you do too OTC. Therefore water is paid for by the citizens of this country. Protecting natural bodies of water is the responsibility of the Government. If bodies of water are being polluted; the Government needs to take action to stop this. If there is a water shortage in Jaffna the citizens should come first as they are the reason why the army is there. Is the army not in Jaffna to protect the citizens of this nation; all the citizens? If the water issue cannot be addressed ASAP, it is logical to reduce the army at least until a solution for the water shortage can be implemented. Not doing this is expecting the citizens to suffer without adequate water; and is a reasonable point to be raised by Wigneswaran.

                  2. You still have not proved the following ridiculous lies that you have either stated directly or through implication:

                  That the article writer is a terrorist
                  That the article writer is a separatist
                  That the deeds the Tamils have to their land are forgeries
                  That my numbering method is faulty and you did not raise those point during your rant. LOL.
                  That you’re a Sinhalese
                  That you are not primitive
                  That you are human. LOL.

                  Yet you have found the time to rant at my considered definition of you. I await a relevant reply with great anticipation. BEST GET CRACKING!

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                    OTC – Misguided Moron

                    You have not kept your word OTC. Yesterday you told me you will reply with your defense of your unproven allegations in the evening, and you failed to do this. Please prove the comments you made in the order I just mentioned them in point 2 of the comment I sent today okay.

                    Also a Sinhalese birth certificate does not prove that you’re Sinhalese and human okay. Its your power of empathy and reason that proves that.

                    So I think if you can prove to me that you were correct on the first 4 yet unproven allegations that you raised on the basis of the article(Please refer to point 2 of the comment I sent today); you would also prove the remaining three. Target these 4 first please as the NPC’s political power was a point you raised today. The other unproven allegations of yours are PENDING your ability to defend them.

                    I await a relevant reply with great anticipation!

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                    Dear “Sinhalese”,

                    Re “I did not realize the NPC has so much power! Please prove that they have the legislative, economic power to address the oil contamination of ground water. ”

                    Yes I can see you are prone to pontificating in ignorance. Please see the 13th amendment, provincial list, item 37.

                    Re “however we all pay water bills. I hope you do too OTC. Therefore water is paid for by the citizens of this country”

                    Ha ha, You are gradually proving that you make a lot of noise and is unable to debate without bringing in unrelated issues. You paying water bills or deciding to cheat has no relevance to the matter under discussion. Please restrain your propensity to brag.

                    Re “If there is a water shortage in Jaffna the citizens should come first as they are the reason why the army is there”

                    The army is there because due to past lapses of security there was an attempt by a group of terrorists to control a part of Lanka. This they did for 30 years. Hence security of the Land comes first and is the reason for the Army’s presence, not the presence of the Tamil people.

                    If there is a shortage of fresh water then it should be equally shared amongst all who live there.

                    Re “….and is a reasonable point to be raised by Wigneswaran”

                    That is not the point raised by Wigneswaran. He said “they are using our good water and depriving us of our water in an area where water is precious” He was making a distinction, “Us” and “They”. The “us” referring to The Locals (wholly Tamil) and the “They” referring to the Army. Their was nothing inclusive about what he said. Their was no hint of a compromise. He was clearly identifying the Army as “Outsiders”

                    Wigs would not be such a fool as you, to take the stand that you took out of ignorance, because Wigs knows that he and his NPC govt is responsible for the environment.

                    Re “That the article writer is a terrorist”

                    Wigs did not write an article to CT.
                    CT reproduced Verbatim CM Wig’s speech delivered elsewhere.

                    You seem to have some issues of language. I did not say what you say I did. What I wrote was Quote You see Mr Wigneswaran, you are pandering to the Separatist and Terrorists. unquote

                    I will allow a Tamil to give an answer to your question by quoting some extracts of a long article from him.

                    Quote

                    It may also be recalled that Wigneswaran was targeted viciously by sections of the Tamil media in Sri Lanka and abroad at the time of nomination. TNA Jaffna district MP E.Saravanabavan who owns the Tamil dailies ‘Uthayan’ and ‘Sudar Oli’ was opposed to Wigneswaran and orchestrated a media campaign against him. Media organs abroad also condemned Wigneswaran for being Colombo based, for having Sinhala politicians as relatives (Vasudeva and Kesaralal) and also for being critical of the LTTE and Tamil armed struggle
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                    Thus the past weeks have seen Wigneswaran mounting the steed of ultra-Tamil nationalism. He began with a trot then broke into a canter and is now galloping away. The goal is attaining the coveted chief minister position along with a record preference vote majority. As a result of this changed approach by Wigneswaran the Tamil media organs hostile to him are now on the same wavelength with him. His provocatively controversial utterances are given wide publicity.
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                    What is happening in the on going process is that Wigneswaran who at one time heard and ruled on cases where alleged members of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam(LTTE)were charged under the Prevention of Terrorism Act (PTA) is now giving a clean bill of health to the tigers. “The Liberation Tigers are not terrorists but freedom fighters” he tells gatherings in Jaffna. One does not know whether Wigneswaran is sincere in asserting this but if he genuinely believes that the LTTE is not a terrorist outfit then one cannot but help wonder as to why he sat on the bench hearing cases listed under the PTA. The honourable thing for an honourable judge to do would have been to refuse to hear cases charging persons as terrorists under the PTA when he personally did not regard them as terrorists. If Wigneswaran was drastically honourable he should have discharged those charged under the PTA and faced consequences with the courage of his convictions.

                    He did not do so then and none can blame him for it. But what is irksome now is this belated acknowledgement that the tigers were no terrorists. Of course it could be argued that Wigneswaran was of a different view then and that it had changed now. If so the relevant issue is the date of this enlightenment and the reasons for it.

                    What saddens this writer is the sight of an eminent ex-judge demeaning himself by pandering to the whims and fancies of hawkish Tamil elements in the Island and the Diaspora. Last week saw Wigneswaran in Valvettithurai (VVT) the native village of LTTE supremo Velupillai Prabhakaran and the cradle of armed Tamil militancy. Wigneswaran delivered a thundering speech to an audience consisting mainly of people from VVT and neighbouring areas.

                    Wigneswaran stated there that Prabhakaran the son of VVT soil was a great hero and not a terrorist. “Pirapakaran oru payangaravathiyalla. Avar Thamil Inathin Viduthalikkaaha Poaradiya oru Maha Veeran” (Prabhakaran is not a terrorist. He is a great hero who fought for the freedom of the Tamil people) re-iterated Wigneswaran on Valvettithurai soil.

                    Unquote

                    Re your writings in a later post.

                    “You have not kept your word OTC. Yesterday you told me you will reply with your defense of your unproven allegations in the evening, and you failed to do this.”

                    All in good time my friend.

                    Writing to CT is my past time it does not put bread on the table for my family. When I am busy with my livelihood my past times go to the back burner sometimes for months when I travel.

                    But you can rest assured that I will respond to all your comments that are addressed to me and even some that are not addressed to me though you sneak in ad hominem criticisms about me. Whenever I have seen those cowardly criticisms I have responded but some may escape my attention.

                    Re “Please prove the comments you made in the order I just mentioned them”

                    Sorry my swollen headed friend, I will not be dictated by you as to how I respond. I will choose the order by which I tackle what you write.

                    However I have noted that discussing more than one or two points with you is not fruitful as you stray from the point at issue more often.

                    Kind Regards,
                    OTC

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                      OTC – Misguided Moron

                      Please defend the PENDING points first. I will not engage in ANY new premises UNTIL you defend your first UNPROVEN ones okay. Either prove them and stop being such a coward or stop talking.

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                      OTC – Misguided Moron

                      The only allegation out of the first 4 allegation that you introduced as a reply to this article HAVE NOT YET BEEN DEFENDED OR PROVEN BY YOU.

                      1. This comment does not defend your allegation that Wigneswaran is a terrorist? You did say it OTC as you said he was accommodating (Synonym: Pandering. Definition: Indulging, Fitting in with the wishes of) terrorists; you’ve clearly called him a terrorist based on the words you’ve used. You cannot fit in with the wishes of terrorists if you’re not a terrorist. I’m unfortunately not the one with linguistic problems.

                      And a speech when published as a piece of writing can be called an article, sach asked had the same concern. You two are so similar.

                      Additionally, you based your allegation that he is a terrorist on this article moron, not on anything else. That is what you CLEARLY said in your initial comments. You said the article is proof that he is both a terrorist and a separatist.

                      Therefore the 1st allegation is the only one out of the 4 that you have touched one and you have still have NOT proved it.

                      And you do need to prove them in the order you brought them up moron, that is how humans discuss ideas, in a logical sequence. Humans don’t rant and rave jumping from one unproven allegation to the next, like apes jump from one branch of a tree to the next.

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                      Dear “Sinhalese”

                      You say “Please defend the PENDING points first. I will not engage in ANY new premises UNTIL you defend your first UNPROVEN ones okay. Either prove them and stop being such a coward or stop talking”

                      Ha ha, the Swollen Headed Dumbo is backing out.

                      You challenged me to prove the NPC had the power. I referred you to the relevant section in the Primary Law, the Constitution.

                      You challenged me to prove what I said about Wigneswaran and it was done.

                      Both challenges were met in my comment of March 3, 2015 at 5:11 pm.

                      Why are you backing out now after ALL that Loud Mouthing?
                      Looks like you have been checkmated and proven a coward after all. Got it Moron?

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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                      “”Primary Law, the Constitution.”2

                      Primary direct supersedes primary law- go chuff Nani Palkiwala father of law – GL and weeremanthri’s God could quote chapter verse- RIP.

                      The law exist at London 1616 Bombay dowry to Charles 2.
                      All treaties of london exist at different places of london.
                      Avaliable at reference sections only with referral-

                      Night school night soil lankets- ambude law!

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              “I believe that ALL of Lanka is For her citizens without any regard fer ethnicity or religion. There cannot be any “homelands” where either due to ethnicity or language or religion one or more groups have more rights than the others.”

              This is an ostensible statement, when we all know that you support the constitutional protection of Buddhism. You vehemently defended the erection of the Buddha statue at the centre of Trinco. Basically, the Sri Lankan citizen are constitutionally categorised into a hierarchical order with Sinhala Buddhist at the top of the pile. This is the reality. We all know that the Sinhala language has been unceremoniously forced on everyone’s throat. The police in Jaffna still record statements in Sinhala and expect the Tamils to endorse them. There is no language freedom in Sri Lanka for the Tamil speaking people. If one were to claim otherwise, he/she is not telling the truth!

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                If there are no language rights and if police record statements in Sinhala the NPC and TNA can look into these, instead of these resolutions.

                But they wont care about that as that would eliminate one of their grievances.

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                  sach

                  “If there are no language rights and if police record statements in Sinhala the NPC and TNA can look into these, instead of these resolutions.”

                  They have been looking into, pleading with and begging for mercy since 1956, even after Tamil language was given the status of National language in 1988, an act which Hindian enforced on JR, after the parrippu drop from 5 An-32s escorted by 4 Mirage 2000.

                  Even the amendment to language Act was enforced by the Hindians, nothing came voluntarily from Sinhala/Buddhists.

                  Please stop lifting your bum over your stupid head until Hindian emperor Modi has returned from his official visit to familarise part of his kingdom.

                  Remember Modi doesn’t like it when Hindus are being treated badly.

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                Dear Burning Issue,

                Re “when we all know that you support the constitutional protection of Buddhism”

                You are mistaken then. What I oppose is the potentially dangerous and catastrophic move to remove the clause on religion or amending it as it is already there.

                It is an exercise in futility as that will not happen without precipitating a Religious Riot. We have had enough death and destruction with an ethnic riot and it is suicidal to instigate a religious riot on the heels of the ethnic riot by chest thumping.

                Re “You vehemently defended the erection of the Buddha statue at the centre of Trinco”

                What I opposed was the mis information that was carried out aimed at ethnic unrest. There were 17 illegal religious edifices that came up BEFORE the Buddha statue. Of those 17 fourteen were either Hindu or Christian and 3 were Buddhist. The LTTE backed agitation was not for the removal of ALL but only for the removal of the last.

                Re “We all know that the Sinhala language has been unceremoniously forced on everyone’s throat”

                Actually English was forced down on everyone’s throat and less than 1%(?) knew English. Banda made a grave error when he did not include what was later included in the The Tamil Language (Special Provisions) Act No. 28 of 1958 into the original Official Language Act of 1956.

                Quote from Mr Neville Jayaweera, GA Jaffna, who was sent to implement the official language Act by the PM and NQ Dias.

                “What this meant in practice was that the policy handed down from Colombo that birth, marriage and death certificates should be written only in Sinhala and likewise all receipts and invoices as well, was ignored. Instead, these documents could now be issued in any of the three languages, as requested by the recipient party. Letters written to members of the pubic by all government departments within the district continued to go out as before in Tamil or English, and the courts continued to function as before without any change in language. In the day to day administration of Jaffna it was as if the OL Act had never been enacted.

                I must emphasise however, that letters and even telegrams sent to people of Jaffna by government departments in Colombo, much to my embarrassment, continued to go out in Sinhala only, strictly in compliance with government’s official policy.

                Not surprisingly, the Tamil politicians remained deeply suspicious of my initiative to suspend the enforcement of the Sinhala Only policy throughout the Jaffna District. They interpreted my initiative as being merely a cunning tactic for taking the heat off the issue and for buying time, and that I would return to the fray once everyone’s attention was diverted elsewhere. The suspicion of me was so acute that for another few weeks Federal Party volunteers, policed every public office in the district from where receipts, invoices, certificates and similar documents were being issued, for satisfying themselves that the documents were not being issued in Sinhala!

                As the weeks passed, the Tamil leaders realised that my response was not just a tactic but signalled a fundamental change in practice, if not in policy, which though not officially declared, or publicly acknowledged, was notwithstanding, a voltroceedings even strayed into thethe Sinhala Only policy in Jaffna.

                During my three year tenure, the precedent I established on the implementation of the Sinhala Only policy in Jaffna, was virtually set in concrete, in that, none of the GAs who followed me, veered from the pattern I had set. Without risk of contradiction I can claim that there cannot be any Tamils, living or dead, who have received certificates, licences, receipts or invoices from any public office in the Northern Province except in the language of their choice.
                unquote

                Kind Regards,
                OTC

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                  OTC,

                  “You are mistaken then. What I oppose is the potentially dangerous and catastrophic move to remove the clause on religion or amending it as it is already there.”

                  Come off it OTC! You argued that Sri Lanka has never been a Secular country. You also stated that the Kandian Convention covered the whole of Sri Lanka; thus the British agreed to protect Buddhism throughout the land!

                  “What I opposed was the mis information that was carried out aimed at ethnic unrest. There were 17 illegal religious edifices that came up BEFORE the Buddha statue.”

                  We were discussing about the illegal erection of that particular Buddha statue overnight with protection from the state security forces. Instead of debating the issue at hand you conveniently convoluted it with other alleged illegal religious monuments that weren’t the subject of discussion. You did this to obscure and convolute the discussion. This is why you are a dishonest and bankrupt individual.

                  “Actually English was forced down on everyone’s throat and less than 1%(?) knew English. Banda made a grave error when he did not include what was later included in the The Tamil Language (Special Provisions) Act No. 28 of 1958 into the original Official Language Act of 1956.”

                  Who are you trying to kid OTC? The Sinhala voted overwhelmingly to subject the Tamil Speaking People with the Sinhala language without compromise. There was no consultations nor there were any sentiments about the viewpoints of the other. There was total disdain from the Sinhala point of view towards the minorities. You now talk about The Tamil Language Special Provisions! I commend the efforts of the GA Jayaweera, who singlehandedly acted with good deeds with regards to administration that carried on in English. However, the police in particular was in Sinhala and the Tamil speaking people were subjected to the Sinhala Only Policy. I was there and I have seen it all!

                  I challenge you to goto Jaffna and pretend to be a Tamil for a month! It is nice to see an idiot who calls himself Sive Sankaran Sarma has come to your aid! This individual laughs out so much his is permanently disfigured!

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                    Dear Burning Issue,

                    Re “I commend the efforts of the GA Jayaweera, who singlehandedly acted with good deeds with regards to administration that carried on in English.”

                    That was a cunning effort. You praise GA Jayaweera and cunningly slip in the phrase “with regards to administration that carried on in English”

                    What GA Jayaweera said was different. He said very categorically the following,

                    Quote

                    During my three year tenure, the precedent I established on the implementation of the Sinhala Only policy in Jaffna, was virtually set in concrete, in that, none of the GAs who followed me, veered from the pattern I had set. Without risk of contradiction I can claim that there cannot be any Tamils, living or dead, who have received certificates, licences, receipts or invoices from any public office in the Northern Province except in the language of their choice.

                    unquote

                    He says not a SINGLE Tamil living or dead have received any document from any PUBLIC office in the Northern Province EXCEPT IN THE LANGUAGE OF THEIR CHOICE.

                    That means if a Tamil asked for his documents in Tamil he got it in Tamil. If he asked them in English then it was issued in English.

                    This has been in operation since 1962 and for 52 years, the Reasonable Use of Tamil Act has been in operation in the North. The Sinhala Only was NEVER USED IN THE NORTH.

                    Why are you afraid to admit the TRUTH?

                    I will address the rest of your comment later.

                    Kind Regards,
                    OTC

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            Gosh. I’m starting thesaurus fund for our pseudo-Sinhalese here oh my gosh. My gosh please donate generously. Oh my gosh. Gosh. :D

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              ;D

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      OTC – Misguided Moron

      I have neglected to address a point you made in another comment about the child soldiers, therefore I have now addressed it:

      The Genocide Resolution was about the alleged genocide by which party? It concerned the allegation that the past government of Sri Lanka inflicted genocide on the Tamil people yes? Since it concerned the past government; what on earth do the child soldiers have to do with the alleged genocide of the past government??? The LTTE were the ones who utilized the child soldiers, not the government, and not the Tamil people. So why should the genocide resolution concerning the past government mention that?

      It is a ridiculous thing to say, simply to confuse the issue. Please stop being a TRAITOR, show some loyalty to this country and stop creating unnecessary conflict.

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        Dear “Sinhalese”

        Name calling is easy but proving what you say is not.
        I can call you by many names but I do that only if I can prove it.

        I have responded to all three of your comments. It has not appeared yet but it will be available at this link when it does.

        https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/we-feel-very-strongly-against-the-continued-stay-of-armed-forces/comment-page-1/#comment-1782915

        Kind Regards,
        OTC

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          OTC – Misguided Moron

          Gosh I was not name calling moron, I was giving you a considered definition. Don’t worry about me proving it. Give your tiny brain a rest!

          I may never prove it to you as you lack the intellectual honesty to comprehend me. Such a pity.

          But I’m sure other people get it.

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            Sinhalese,

            “I may never prove it to you as you lack the intellectual honesty to comprehend me. Such a pity.”

            Yeah I completely agree. Where can I start on this?

            Citing Dutch document to say the Kandian Kingdom was stretched as far as Elephant Pass!

            Kandian Convention proved that the British accepted to protect Buddhism for the entire nation!

            Erection of the Buddha statue at the centre of Trinco was correct because there are other illegal religious monuments!

            The Tamil Elite connived with British to undermine the Sinhala!

            GGP Planted the racist seeds among the Sinhala!

            These are just some examples of OTC’s utterances but not restricted to.

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              Burning Issue

              Thanks for sharing. OTC at his best, being a Misguided Moron!

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              And yet We Thamizh have been unable to counter any of his arguments with facts (and no, writing “oh my gosh oh my gosh oh my gosh” over and over doesn’t cut it – it just shows someone is in desperate need of a thesaurus :D.)

              What does that say about We Thamizh intellect? :D

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                Siva Sankaran Sarma – Misguided Moron

                Yes! Your comment clearly indicates that someone need a thesaurus. You do moron. So please buy one and a dictionary as well, and attempt to understand what I have written okay.

                And let me just say that a true Sinhalese will NEVER hide behind a Tamil name like a coward and sprout racist drivel in a public forum. Shame on you moron.

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                  Siva Sankaran Sarma – Misguided Moron

                  needs*

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                  Dear “Sinhalese”,

                  Re “And let me just say that a true Sinhalese will NEVER hide behind a Tamil name like a coward and sprout racist drivel in a public forum”

                  Well said. But do you have an opinion about a True Tamil?

                  As a new comer to CT, you are being presumptuous again. Must be an ingrained trait of yours!

                  You have arrived at a conclusion without adducing your reasons. How do you know he is not Tamil? A little bird whispered in your ear? Or are you Omniscient like God?

                  What you don’t seem to realize is that there are Tamils who don’t approve of the direction the Tamil leaders are moving in. Just as there are Sinhalese who did not approve the direction MR was taking after terrorism was defeated.

                  Re “Shame on you moron”

                  I think I can safely say that you are the Moron who needs to be ashamed for being so presumptuous and degenerating to Name Calling.

                  Kind Regards,
                  OTC

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                    OTC,

                    You have lost and you need to admit it and be a man! There is a saying in Tamil Naan vlunthalum en meeshiel mann padavilliai, which means that I am fallen buy no dust on my moustache. You now need to brazen it out but do not use frivolous arguments.

                    Siva Sunkaran Sarma is a Sinhala Buddhist Chauvinist; make no mistake about it :D

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                      Burning Issue

                      OTC is in denial! The poor moron.

                      Yes I agree with your earlier comment, logic exposes the OTCs of this country.

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                      Burning,

                      Let’s see whose arguments are frivolous and whose isn’t.

                      BTW my comment to you of March 4, 2015 at 3:39 am about the implementation of the Reasonable use of Tamil Act for the past 52 years and the NON implementation of the Sinhala Only at anytime in the North, still remains unanswered.
                      Exposes your LIES perhaps?

                      Re “Siva Sunkaran Sarma is a Sinhala Buddhist Chauvinist; make no mistake about it :D”

                      Talking of frivolity where is your proof? I hope you can make good on your claims in the next post.

                      “Sinhalese”

                      Re “OTC is in denial! The poor moron.”

                      Oh no but I see that you are in withdrawal after I posted extracts from DBS Jayaraj, who discusses Wigneswaran. Please don’t tell me that ALL your previous Lexical arrogance was a premature ejaculation, leaving you impotent!

                      You have avoided that comment like the plague.

                      BTW where is your opinion about a true Tamil?
                      Why are you hiding behind Burning and avoiding my comment of March 4, 2015 at 5:04 pm about Sarma?

                      Like Burning, you too Sprout statements that you cannot back up with evidence. Where is the EVIDENCE to support what you said about Siva Sankaran Sarma? Come come Mr Omniscient, isn’t that naughty?

                      I thought you are not an imbecile (a synonym of moron).
                      Was I mistaken?

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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              Dear Burning Issue,

              Re “Citing Dutch document to say the Kandian Kingdom was stretched as far as Elephant Pass!”

              I did not Forge the Dutch document. Hence you are out of line. It States that the BORDER of the Kandyan Kingdom and the Jaffna Kingdom is at Elephant Pass. If you have a problem you should take it up with the Dutch Govt. I only quoted it. Apparently it is causing you great discomfort as it exposes the LIES that you and the separatists make.

              Re “Kandian Convention proved that the British accepted to protect Buddhism for the entire nation!”

              Read the Kandyan Convention. The British did agree to protect Buddhism within the Kandyan Kingdom. You have deceitfully introduced the entire nation! part. Deceit seems to be second nature to you.

              Re “Erection of the Buddha statue at the centre of Trinco was correct because there are other illegal religious monuments!”

              You keep dragging old discussions between us in the hope I would not be able to refute you. It was with difficulty that I found this exchange on Groundviews and it proves that you are an individual that takes EVERY opportunity to instigate RELIGIOUS hatred and will stoop to any depth to achieve it.

              Please note I had no desire to expose you like this but you kept forcing my hand.

              I have edited the text for length.
              Quote

              Off the Cuff > Burning_Issue • 16 Sept 2011 6.20 pm

              Dear Burning Issue,

              The level of Deceit you practice is deplorable. You not only LIE but you SELECTIVELY quote material to BUTTRESS that LIE.

              Do not lose sight of the Fact that your contention was, is and has always been that Section 9 of the Constitution was used to protect the Trinco Statue. That Burning Issue is a DELIBERATE and CALCULATED LIE. It is as much a deliberate Lie as your present claim that the Former CJ Sarath Silva is now a Buddhist Monk!!!! ………

              Let’s look at what you write and the references you use as proof.

              “In this case the Chief Justice Sarath Silva implicitly invoked the Article 9 of the Constitution“

              Please remember that you have to prove that Section 9 of the Constitution was used to prevent the demolition / removal of the statue in question.

              Please also keep in mind that my objections are to the manner in which you try to Demonise section 9 of the Constitution and I am not justifying the use of religious objects to challenge the Tamils or anyone else.

              You wrote “Mister, please read below:http://www.dailynews.lk/2005/0… One Wasantha Ramanayake states on Daily News:

              “Senior Counsel S.L. Gunasekera for the petitioner making his submissions for Leave said that the decision of the respondents to remove the statue without removing other illegal religious structures were discriminatory, arbitrary and the unlawful and in violations of the petitioners rights. He stated that the removal of the statue would cause the breach peace and would be irreparable loss and damage to the Buddhist in the area.”

              ……..

              Where did you see the INVOKING of Section 9 by the petitioner? …….

              That’s why you are a LIAR. You PURPOSELY and DELIBERATELY distort Facts, to achieve your Ulterior Motives.

              You also quote DBS Jayaraj http://www.thesundayleader.lk/
              I am quoting below extracts from the same document

              “Counsel Mr.S.L.Gunasekara who appeared for the petitioner argued there are several unauthorised structures of statues and temples of other faiths in Trincomalee. The AG has filed action in the Trincomalee District Court only for the removal of the Buddha statue erected in the bus stand premises. Hence this violates the fundamental rights of the petitioner.”

              The following inferences flow from the above statement.

              1. The Fundamental Rights petition came up for hearing in the Supreme Court

              2. The Petitioner declared in the Supreme Court that “The AG has filed action in the Trincomalee District Court only for the removal of the Buddha statue erected in the bus stand premises”

              3. The Petitioner pleaded unequal treatment by Law enforcement (Equal treatment is a Fundamental Right under Section 12 of the Constitution

              ……..

              …. the District Court Case was filled ONLY to remove the Buddha Statue and NOT to remove the other 16 Illegal religious edifices.

              The same document states, “Mr.C.R.De Silva, Solicitor General appearing for the Attorney General submitted to court that the government has filed the case to reduce tension in the town following the erection of the Buddha statue. He further submitted to court that the AG has also taken steps to remove other unauthorised religious structures in Trincomalee.”

              It was ONLY as a response to the FR petition that the AG took steps to remove the other religious edifices. The DC court case SINGLED out the Buddha Statue.

              When you make counter claims please do not lose sight of the CHRONOLOGY. Doing so deliberately is deceit.

              That it was section 12 and not section 9 that was used (as you deceitfully allege) as the basis of the FR Petition is confirmed by DBSJ’s report that you have quoted.

              “The petitioner further said although there were around 17 illegally erected religious statues on state lands in Trincomalee out of which 7 were Hindu Kovil and 6 churches or Christian statues the AG had directed UDA to remove only the Buddha statue.

              The petitioner alleged the selective and discriminatory conduct was in violation of Article 12 (1) and (2) of the Constitution. The removal of the statue would preach peace and cause irreparable loss and damage to the Buddhists in the area. The petitioner sought two interim reliefs: – A stay order preventing the removal of the statue by the UDA and to stay the proceedings in the Trincomalee District Court,”

              Where do you see ANY reference to Section 9 of the Constitution in what DBSJ reports?
              …………………

              That you have not only LIED but has been practicing DECEIT to further your irrational views of the Constitution has been proved by the documents you yourself have referenced
              End Quote

              After your Lies were exposed you replied the same day

              Quote
              Burning_Issue > Burning_Issue • 16 Sept 2011 10.39 pm

              “The CJ implicitly invoked the Article 9 of the Constitution arm twisting the AG to withdraw his motion directing at the District Judge to remove the Buddha Statue. There is no reference to Article 9 because it was implicitly invoked.
              End Quote

              That’s the type of person you are. You claimed Section 9 (Buddhism clause) was used in the FR petition. When you are presented with CONCLUSIVE evidence that it was not section 9 but was Section 12 (Equality clause) that was invoked, Your INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY still attempts to distort it. Funny to see you writing about Manhood on CT.

              Your Burning Issue is the Section 9 of the Constitution which though benign, you continue to demonize, fanning religious hatred. If GGP was a Racist as identified by Mr. T. Chellappa-pillai, you are a modern day religious fanatic. I pity you.

              Note – Mr. T. Chellappa-pillai, is the retired CJ of Travancore, a renowned mathematician an eminent English, Sanskrit and Tamil Scholar the Editor (English pages) of the Anglo Tamil fortnightly the “Hindu Organ” printed and published in Jaffna in 1939

              Kind Regards,
              OTC

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                OTC,

                You are either a loner with chauvinistic traits or a sad and unloved individual with an axe to grind. You have ego the size of the Everest!

                It is extremely desperate for you to use a Dutch document for whatever reason it was written to argue that the Kandiyan Kingdom stretched as far as Elephant Pass. This insignificant letter would not stand a test of time within the academic domain.

                You certainly claimed that the Kandiyan Convention was meant for the entire Ceylon thus the British agreed to protect Buddhism for the entire Ceylon. What you are exhibiting is absolute desperation and also proving that you are a pathological liar.

                The Trinco Buddha stature was illegal the then CJ De Silva acted disgracefully by leaning on the AG forcing him to withdraw the call for the removal of the statue thus preventing a constitution crises. I said it before and I am saying it again that, the foremost place given to Buddhism in the Constitution and all faiths are equal is preposterous because both concepts are mutually exclusive. You can write whatever you want but nothing will make sense with illogical arguments.

                I am in the process of searching for the debate about the Kandiyan Convention on Groundviews. To my surprise Wijayapala was also in agreement with you. It was absolute travesty that you claimed that the Kandiyan Convention applied to whole Ceylon when the Convention stipulated that it only meant for the Kandiyan Kingdom only. You go at any length to subvert truth to support your narrow views!

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                  Dear Burning Issue,

                  Re “You are either a loner with chauvinistic traits or a sad and unloved individual with an axe to grind. You have ego the size of the Everest!”

                  The two bit psychologist has done a self analysis.

                  The Axe you are grinding is a Religious axe. It has been so for several years. The obdurate an irrational position you take on religion is proof. The ego that you write about is yours, as I have proven by deed that I will stand corrected whenever I am proven wrong.

                  Re “It is extremely desperate for you to use a Dutch document for whatever reason it was written to argue that the Kandiyan Kingdom stretched as far as Elephant Pass. This insignificant letter would not stand a test of time within the academic domain”

                  You must be Dumber than I thought. No academician will reject the authenticity of a document preserved in a govt archive as a piece of their own history. At this rate you will reject even the US Declaration of Independence documents as forgeries!

                  No intelligent person will reject what is written in it UNLESS some form of BIAS can be proved. What is in the Dutch repository is a piece of History both of Lanka and the Dutch.

                  Re “You are going berserk as I did not use the Mahavamsa or any other Vamsa text to prove where the Border of the Kandyan Kingdom was. You are unable to downgrade the evidence by claiming it is biased towards the Sinhala or is written by a Sinhala”

                  You must be moving in DUMB circles not in academia.

                  In the face of OVERWHELMING evidence that the EQUALITY Clause (section 12) was invoked you are DUMB to continue to claim that the Trinco Buddha Statue was not dismantled due to the Buddhism clause (section 9), which like an idiot you said was IMPLICITLY invoked when you could not produce the EVIDENCE. That was Pig Headed Obduracy, ha ha haa!!!

                  They could not remove it because that meant 7 Hindu Kovils and 6 Christian churches/statues had to go before it.

                  What a DUMB joker you are, to claim the LAW was IMPLICITLY invoked!!!

                  Re “The Trinco Buddha stature was illegal the then CJ De Silva acted disgracefully by leaning on the AG forcing him to withdraw the call for the removal of the statue thus preventing a constitution crises.”

                  Of course the statue was illegal but it was not the oldest illegal religious construction. There were 16 other illegal constructions that was older to it. You have a PERVERTED sense of Justice.

                  Re “I said it before and I am saying it again that, the foremost place given to Buddhism in the Constitution and all faiths are equal is preposterous because both concepts are mutually exclusive”

                  You are Moving the Goal posts. What you said before is that Section 9 was used to protect the Buddha statue. That’s all you can do. Say things not prove them.

                  You are an obnoxious Liar trying to set off a Religious conflagration.

                  Re “You certainly claimed that the Kandiyan Convention was meant for the entire Ceylon thus the British agreed to protect Buddhism for the entire Ceylon”

                  You are certainly dumb. I am a person who will readily admit when I am wrong. This debate took place three and a half years ago. If what you say is true I would be in error as I am not going to be DUMB like you to argue that the Kandyan Treaty applied to anything but the Kandyan Kingdom. Please go ahead and keep searching, I have no problem.

                  Kind Regards,
                  OTC

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            Dear “Sinhalese”

            Re “Gosh I was not name calling moron, I was giving you a considered definition. Don’t worry about me proving it. Give your tiny brain a rest!”

            Perhaps it would be more appropriate if you give your swollen head a rest.

            Re “I may never prove it to you as you lack the intellectual honesty to comprehend me. Such a pity.

            When you cant dance the floor is at fault!

            Kind Regards,
            OTC

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              OTC,

              If anyone is acting with a pompous attitude it is you; your head is so swollen that touches all sides of the spectrum! You, not long ago, accused DR DJ for cherry picking; this is exactly what you do to support your logical arguments.

              Many intellectuals on Groundviews found you not genuine and intellectually dishonest. One Gamarala described as a master at prevarication or to this effect. There is no end to your misdemeanours on public forums! Your write ostensibly by carefully obscuring facts with insidious effects I am very sorry to say.

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                Sorry;

                “You, not long ago, accused DR DJ for cherry picking; this is exactly what you do to support your logical arguments.”

                This should read:

                You, not long ago, accused DR DJ for cherry picking; this is exactly what you do to support your illogical arguments.

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                  Dear Burning Issue,

                  Please see my post of March 5, 2015 at 12:15 am for a comprehensive rebuttal.

                  Your accusations of Cherry Picking does not provide examples as proof. Just ranting about it, has no value.

                  However, the above referenced post gives solid examples of YOU practicing Cherry Picking. Hope you can explain all of that using LOGIC.

                  Truth backed up by evidence is the best form of defense.

                  If you are prudent, you will be judicious in using GroundViews for support. GroundViews was the Cemetery of your arguments and the above is a perfect example.

                  Kind Regards,
                  OTC

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                Burning Issue

                I agree. OTC does not realize other people see right through the shoddy foundations of his reasoning. He still has not successfully defended a single one of his allegations.

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                  Dear “Sinhalese”

                  There is a comment waiting for your response March 3, 2015 at 5:11 pm.

                  And yet another here March 3, 2015 at 10:20 pm

                  You were shooting off comment after comment without waiting for a response. Sometimes three comments were posted one after the other. Hope you are not taken ill. If so wish you health to get well soon.

                  Kind Regards,
                  OTC

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                    OTC – Misguided Moron

                    You have not proved a single one of your allegations OTC. And since you have not replied with any relevant defenses to the points you’ve raised; I see no point in wasting my time. You see my time is precious to me and I dislike being bored. I have summarized our one sided debate as follows:

                    1. You called the article writer a terrorist. You definitely called him that based on the words you used. And you based that assumption on this article, not on anything else as your comments clearly indicated. You have failed to prove the veracity of your allegation.

                    2. You called the writer a separatist based on this article. You have failed to prove this.

                    3. You have failed to address the bunkum you mentioned about my numbering system.

                    4. You have failed to provide proof that the Tamils as you clearly alleged, have false deeds to their land in Jaffna.

                    These four points are the ones you brought up first. You have not proved them and you’ve had quite some time to do so.

                    5. Therefore, I conclude that you have proved the following: You are not Sinhalese, you are not human and you are primitive. If you were anything more, you would have proved at LEAST one; or had the COURAGE to admit that you were wrong about making these unfounded allegations.

                    Where your other babble is concerned, meaning the new premises you introduced without proving the first ones:

                    6. You have not proved that the NPC has the legislative and economic power to manage their own affairs OTC. The reason the NPC wants power devolved to them, is BECAUSE they have no political power to manage the region; the central government have that power. Federalism devolves power; but under our system, NPC does not have autonomy to regulate legislature pertaining to their region. Impurities in ground water is an issue requiring legislation to solve; therefore they never had the power to solve this within the perimeters of their power. Everyone knows this moron.

                    6. You brought up many new premises of unsubstantiated rubbish; but I called you out on only two: how you thought ‘we’ meant ‘me’; and your allegation pertaining to my comprehension about you and that other moron sach.

                    I’ve addressed both these lies in separate comments and you have failed to prove either one. Oh you’ve said things. You’ve ranted and raved; but it’s been the case of so many words, so little wisdom. Or in your case; no wisdom at all.

                    You see OTC, the reason you have not proved a single one of the allegations I mentioned; is because they are ALL lies. Lies that you have dressed up in mediocre language and paraded on this forum; in the interests of catering to a growing minority of primitive minds such as yours. I hope that analogy is as descriptive of the total contempt I feel for intellectually dishonest, primitive morons such as yourself.

                    On being challenged by me; you have ranted, raved and foamed at the mouth and yet still failed to voice a single shred of reasoning that reaches the human standard.

                    SO this has been most entertaining for me. But I fail to see the point in engaging in a discussion with a primitive, dishonest moron who’s one redeeming feature is that he apes humanity rather well.

                    Also the fact that so many people unlike your comments and share the views that I have about you; is very good news for my country. So thank you OTC for that.

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                      Sinhalese,

                      This is great. OTC is on the run and I will keep this link for future reference.

                      All right thinking people collectively can defeat morons such as OTC and such and their ilk on logic.

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                      Dear Burning Issue,

                      I am NEVER on the run because I don’t Lie.
                      If I make a mistake it’s admitted. You see proof of that on this page itself.

                      But you seem to be on the run as there is a comment addressed to you awaiting your response dated March 4, 2015 at 3:39 am.

                      There is another one coming your way as I found an old engagement with you that you brought up here about the Trinco Buddha Statue. Please be ready.

                      BTW- the Pseudo “Sinhalese” is on the RUN. He already avoids direct responses to comments and have resorted to posting his own distorted versions as “summaries”. That joker like you seems to be either blind or not reading comments with care.

                      A response to his LYING comment of March 4, 2015 at 11:38 am will be made after I post yours.

                      “All right thinking people collectively can defeat morons such as OTC and such and their ilk on logic”

                      I suggest you get the help of ALL who you think are “Right Thinking” because LOGIC has deserted both you and “Sinhalese”.

                      Perhaps Gamarala who ran away after he saw this comment may condescend to join. https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/the-dr-d-j-syndrome/comment-page-1/#comment-1774173

                      You also declined my invitation to help Gamarala here https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/the-dr-d-j-syndrome/comment-page-1/#comment-1775506

                      Both you and Gamarala stayed away despite a 2nd invitation https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/the-dr-d-j-syndrome/comment-page-1/#comment-1775506

                      That comment is still without a reply. If you decide to reply please keep me informed as that page is dead now.

                      Please preserve the link to this debate it will help you in the future, Ha ha haa!

                      In the meantime have fun.

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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                      Dear Burning Issue,

                      The comment at this link addresses the frivolous charges you made. I hope you find it interesting. Ha ha haa.

                      https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/we-feel-very-strongly-against-the-continued-stay-of-armed-forces/comment-page-1/#comment-1785599

                      Since you are an avid fan of “Sinhalese”, my reply to him is under preparation and will be posted today in the afternoon. You may find that similarly interesting.

                      BTW where is the proof I asked for to prove what you said about Sankaran? Still looking for it?

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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                      Dear pseudo Sinhalese coward,

                      My reply to you Moronic rant is at this link.
                      Enjoy.

                      https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/we-feel-very-strongly-against-the-continued-stay-of-armed-forces/comment-page-1/#comment-1786309

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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                Dear Burning,

                Please see my post of March 5, 2015 at 12:15 am for a comprehensive rebuttal.

                I do hope you can explain your actions using Logic.

                Kind Regards,
                OTC

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      OTC
      “Dear Mr.Wigneswaran
      if Jaffna is your area what is our area?”

      You will find the answer to your question if you can trace back dispassionately and without prejudice or rancour to the events from the year February 4th 1948 up to date.
      But you are incapable of doing just that, and you will go round in circles and will fall into a hopeless stupor and finally fall down dead.

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        Uthungan

        “OTC Dear Mr.Wigneswaran if Jaffna is your area what is our area?”

        South India or Bihar.

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          are there sinhalese in Bihar or in South India you racist GGP ?

          Sinhala is a civilisation that evolved in SL where every letter was evolved in SL. I know that is a FACT that many racist GGP reincarnations find difficult to stomach. BUT Sinhala civilisation is in SL. SL is the womb of Sinhala civilisation.

          Just because you lack anything in SL and feel jeolous , we cant help you.

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        Dear Uthungan,

        Are you unable to state it?
        If you can please do so then we can debate it.

        In 1948 Sri Lanka received independence.
        Hence ALL of Lanka is the LAND of ALL Sri Lankans.

        There is no “Your Land” or “My Land” or “Their Land”.
        What we have is OUR Land. The word “OUR” includes all citizens.

        Hence my question directed at CM Wigneswaram is valid.

        If you don’t agree make your argument.

        Kind Regards,
        OTC

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          OTC
          There is no need to restate what I had already stated, and there is no point in my trying to debate with a blank wall mindset that has been built with an unyielding firm granite foundation based on deception and fraudulent history from 1948 up to date.

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            Dear Uthungan,

            I cannot remember ever debating with you.

            You have not stated anything to me nor have you referred me to any comment/ article of yours where you have stated what you claim you have stated earlier.

            If you ask me questions you need to state your views.

            Kind Regards,
            OTC

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    The resolution of Genocide and this kind of Tribalist writings are to appease Tribalist Tamils because the provincial elections are nearby.

    This will never stop. This is Tamilnadu Tribalist politics and, there, when 90% are tamils, they needs tribalism to stay in politics. So, in Sri lankan North when the Tamils are majority that is a curse to the country.

    What Sri lanka needs is a Leader to respond to these behaviours with the same behaviour.

    Tamils who want to stay in Sri lanka should become Sinhalized. Other should leave Sri lanka or should be made to leave.

    I don’t feel a bit of remorse for Tamils because of their tribalism.

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      Jim softy

      “The resolution of Genocide and this kind of Tribalist writings are to appease Tribalist Tamils because the provincial elections are nearby.”

      When will government hold next Provincial Council Election in the North?

      Could you define “Tribalist Tamils” in your own words.

      “So, in Sri lankan North when the Tamils are majority that is a curse to the country.”

      How, why, why now, …?

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    Chief Minister Wigneswaran has presented to the North and South of the country as much to all segments of society, a prescription in its best assimilable form. To the twin aches of tooth and head he has given the capsule. Release 5,500 of the 6,500 acres now needlessly being retained by the armed forces.

    Onus is now on the government to take action not sequentially but coterminously to defreeze all HSZ lands so declared and kept sterilized for over three decades.

    Most relevantly, reparations and additional financial assistance from the government are inescapable, not for restitution but for redevelopment.

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      S,Sivathasan

      “a prescription in its best assimilable form.”

      Ah, could Chief Minister Wigneswaran grind his points into powder (nano particles) so that Off The Cuff can have it with liquid. OTC find CV W’s prescription hard to swallow.

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        what is left to swallow in a resolution where the person who brought the resolution had admitted that he did so as a reaction?

        what sort of an irresponsible lieing moron this CM is!

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          Dear sach,

          He is too dumb to notice these things.

          Kind Regards,
          OTC

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        Ah this Tamil thinks that wearing a Veddha’s Mask can make him a Veddha! The fool tries to emphasise it by having “Native” as an adjective.

        Tamil in the Veddha mask If you have the facts engage in debate instead of being a coward and hiding behind S,Sivathasan.

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          Obnoxious Transvestite Chuf

          “If you have the facts engage in debate “

          Your bass off bas**rd night school night soil-
          otc shoe- I can smell it from here.Quite a Phew!!

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          Folks

          That is why I called this Vadda idiot “Uru Varige Booruwa” aka “Uncivilised Kala Vadda”. If you read his blabbers in CT forums for last few years, you would see what mean. This idiot is a self-claimed Pandit yet another looser from Thamil “Die-Ass-Poo-ra”. These idiots philosophy is “there is one way which always Thamil way” I need everything.

          Do not waste your time on replying to these hopeless idiots.

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            Mati Dombasiri

            “Do not waste your time on replying to these hopeless idiots.”

            Why don’t you take your own advice bit seriously?

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    There should be street protests instead of speeches. The owners of those lands should march towards their properties and take over their lands and homes. There is no other way for those people to resettle themselves as the government will not do anything. The government is trying to colonise the Sinhalese at the expense of the Tamil owners by declaring those areas as security zones.
    Mr.wigneswaran and the TNA should lead the Tamil people in the march instead of preaching.
    What a shame for Ranil and Sirisena to come to the North and ask for votes and the TNA too made a mistake of persuading the people to vote for Sirisena.

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      Sellam asking Eelam (or Ellan Kama)

      Just a simple questions “Who is going to lead these protest marches? Are you?

      Bring it on!!!!!!!Sri Lankan forces need some target practice. Haven’t had since May 2009. Be on the front leading a single march please. You would see your beloved leader son-goat podian preba very soon in the Hell.

      “Who the heck do you think you are, Man?”

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        “Bring it on!!!!!!!”

        you got holes in your underwear??

        Dung Bung become Cannibal

        Less is more

        Start with sobita sihala urumaya .
        karawa would soon be king [Edited out] like fatty & vvt.

        keep going you are walikg in hell! Amen.

        walkie talkie getting the bucket underneath mouse!!!!
        then drink that one…

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    We have been denied access to our lands in Valikamam North. We have been waiting for the last 25+ years to go back to our lands to rebuild our houses, farmlands villages, and towns.

    We not only lost our lands, we also lost the access to our cultural roots where our families lived for generations.

    I left Sri Lanka for good. But I still have the right to visit to the house where I grew up. I still have the right to show my kids where their grandparents lived.

    Knowing the government allowed forces to build hotels and running business after denying access to our lands is an insult and a crime.

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      Thamby,
      If you are going to rebuild as you say “…rebuild our houses, farmlands villages, and towns,” then it is a good thing. Also you say ” But I still have the right to visit to the house where I grew up. I still have the right to show my kids where their grandparents lived.”

      However, I doubt you are going back into the laid-back lifestyle of the farming village community of your parents. Will you really be able to sustain as in days of yore, like after you sent all your cartels all over the south to preserve this very idealism you long for? Will Dalits be around to play the servant/slave class for you again?

      If the Gosl agree that Jaffna is to remain a market-garden of Tamil idealism, then it can be at a starting point for getting about 2,700 acres. The rest can be for military (SL has to yet secure against any terrorism), and commerce, so Tamils can use their Jaffna brains to indulge in all modern things entrepreneurial and scientific. Yes, I think it will be cheaper and safer if Gosl secures a Jaffna market-garden of idyllic Hameau de la Reine style.

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        It doesn’t matter if he wants to live a “laid-back lifestyle” or not, it is HIS land which the Sri Lankan state has stolen as it had done with many other properties belonging to the Tamil people.

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          Certainly if a country endured rabid terrorism from that part of their land, the country has a right to protect itself. After WW2, City of Berlin was occupied by American Allied Forces till Oct. 1990. Okinawa, japan, is still owned by the US army.

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            ramona therese fernando

            ” After WW2, City of Berlin was occupied by American Allied Forces till Oct. 1990. Okinawa, japan, is still owned by the US army.”

            What has it got to do with this island? Did the allied forces of WW2 just finished war in this island?

            So you agree with Tamil Eelamites that their land/homeland is being occupied by Sinhala/Buddhist armed forces from another country and the people of Tamil Eelam has the right to evict the occupying foreign troops.

            Let the Tamil Eelamites consider your position and understand it clearly.

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              Native Vedda,

              Here are a few examples of how government forces of other countries occupy troubled spots in their own countries and other countries also(and plainly take over when it suits them):

              1) The Philippine National Police, a military task force has been formed to protect the city Davao (a city in the Philippines) from terrorist attacks and other crime. Task Force Davao is affiliated with the Philippine Army and headed by an army colonel.

              2) Britain in Northern Ireland (with much IRA terrorism for over 30 years, before UK finally established a permanent footing)- and Ireland is a completely different land mass from England.

              3) China in Nepal

              4) India in Jammu and Kashmir (The Rashtriya Rifles or RR force is deployed in Jammu and Kashmir. Some consider it the world’s largest dedicated counter-insurgency force – Wiki)

              5) US in New Mexico

              6) Guantanamo Bay Naval Base in Cuba

              7) Britain in Diego Garcia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjNfXK6QpqY

              8) US occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan

              9) Rwanda (Tutsis ruling the Hutus):

              a. The Rwandan Patriotic Front (RPF) has been the dominant political party in the country since 1994. The RPF has maintained control of the presidency and the Parliament in national elections, with the party’s vote share consistently exceeding 70%. The RPF is seen as a Tutsi-dominated party but receives support from across the country, and is credited with ensuring continued peace, stability, and economic growth.[87] Human rights organisations, including Amnesty International and Freedom House, claim that the government suppresses the freedoms of opposition groups by restricting candidacies in elections to government-friendly parties, suppressing demonstrations, and arresting opposition leaders and journalists.[71][88] – Wiki

              b. Also from Wiki : The Rwanda Defence Force (RDF) is the national army of Rwanda. Largely composed of former Rwandan Patriotic Army (RPA) soldiers, it includes the Rwanda Land Force, Rwanda Air Force and specialised units.

              10) And of course, the never ending Israel/Palestinian conflict : At the heart of the Israel/Palestine conflict today lies the question of the Palestinian territories occupied by Israel since the war of 1967, which include the West Bank, Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem -Wiki

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            “”After WW2, City of Berlin was occupied by American Allied Forces till Oct. 1990. “”

            Yakka, pissu is better than you.
            you vomit at will shameless low breed don’t read but comment like shitting every where.

            The allied forces are leaving Germany by 2020.
            The German women married to them want life at Yorkshire and the Englishmen married to them love the German care so they stay – not by force.
            But its all one EU none of us are former slaves like you frogs –
            `Indentured servitude` of sihala urumaya.

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              @Javi,
              Why? Afraid that your pure Dravido-species will be enslaved by the almost 1/2-Aryan Sihala Urumaya? Are you afraid that the Dravido-species are so closely connected to Africa, that German Nazism will surely erase you from the face of the earth? Perish the thought! Sinhala Urumaya are very affable with their Dravido-genes, and know it makes them uniquely the Sinhala-Race. As per us Chettis and Burghers, we Chettis and Burghers are LOVED by the Sinhala Urumaya. We Burghers and Chettis were of the administrative stock :). Sinhala Urumaya would love you too, if you removed your psychosis and delusional thinking based on what you do to your Dalits.

              Why, the Sinhala race would love to mix with the pure Dravidoids. That is because, the European blood mix, increased their Aryan blood of 45.54%, to about 80% in some cases. Therefore the 12% pure Thamil gene, will surely set it back again to a 54.46% Thamil-gene, thus ensuring the gene balance of what comprised the original glorious Sinhala Race – Thamil genes a necessity in fact, to counter-balance the effects of colonization. Whoooooooohohoho……..Yippee………(poor dark-skinned Javi……go weep and gnash teeth).

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    Banda senior,father of,CBK who is a staunch ally of the TNA was responsible for the killing of Tamils and burning their homes in the 50s.

    Junius uncle of the present rogue PM Ranil was the architect of the killing of Tamils in the 80s which resulted in the Indians creating the LTTE.

    The rest is history.

    NPC chief calling them War Criminals who did genocide is understandable.

    Now the Vellala CM says it was aimed at Mahinda Rajapaksa,

    Rajapaksa didn’t allow any Sinhalese to kill Tamil civilians or burn down their houses in any part of the island.

    What worries the 5.8 Million inhabitants is whether Mahinda Rajapaksa will face the same fate as Keppitipola, courtesy of PM Rancl and cousin Bandaranayaka.

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      K.A Sumanasekera

      “Rajapaksa didn’t allow any Sinhalese to kill Tamil civilians or burn down their houses in any part of the island.”

      True he didn’t allow Sinhalese to kill Tamil civilians nor burn down their houses in any part of the island.

      However he allowed the Sinhala/Buddhist security forces to bomb, shell, … rape, kill, using multi barrels, field guns, air force bombers, naval ships, …………. the whole sale annihilation of a section of the people and their lively hood, habitat and what not.

      The Sinhala/Buddhists were not that efficient in obliterating the Tamils, therefore MR took it upon himself and used all the killing machines in state’s disposal to wipe out a large number of people in a short period of time. Else it would have taken Sinhalese hundreds of years and several riots before same number killed and destroyed.

      It is understandable that you are happy with MRs performance.

      What MR has to do with Keppetipola Disawe?

      If anything VP is the only one who can be closely identified with Keppetipola Disawe for kicking the Hindian IPKF out of this island and signing an agreement with Hindian state before he turned against IPKF.

      Please avoid quoting historical persons if and when your love for the crooks runs riot. History is a messy business. Leave to the expert.

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      ” …. Rajapaksa didn’t allow any Sinhalese to kill Tamil civilians or burn down their houses in any part of the island….” Not in a large scale, perhaps. Though there were no pre-engineered pogroms of a PHYSICAL nature until the time they were thrown out by majority Sinhalese, the extremist Sinhala supremacist Rajapaksa bigots were engaged in the slow but gradual genocide of the Lankan Tamil nation.

      The highly inflated army strength was used to achieve this goal. It may work in the short term but it will never work in the long term. Tamils in the North-East love their land, soil, places of worship, of educational institutions just as much as the Sinhalese in the South. They will continue to fight with their lives to defend them. It will be ludicrous for the Sinhala Nation to ignore the resistance of the past 7 decades. They are unable to express their rightful opposition to the community-based punishment inflicted on the Tamil Nation, albeit in subtle ways, only because of the presence of a brutal army armed to the teeth present in their midst against them that respects no HR laws or obligations. The Tamil Nation has no objection to a more reasonable contingent of Sinhala army presence in their land for the purpose maintenance of law and order during times of stress.

      The present Deputy Defence Minister appears to be doing all he can to be seen as a hawk in the eyes of the Sinhala public. Where is the space to achieve Sinhala-Tamil reconciliation in the circumstances.

      Kettikaran

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        you see, the problem is there is no tamil nation…there was none historically.

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          there was none historically.

          [Edited out]
          Please get your facts right.??

          Some men interpret nine memos!!

          The several treaties of London running from Portuguese times and are inter related UK ownership starting with sommerset house -because they all come under east india company then crown colony and west india company crown colony SA.

          night soil school you had no dictionary even during standardization so GL pappa could not teach at colombo camups

          Sach you a school drop out with a hand grenade??
          youv’e a fuzzy pop and spotted heyna mom? any amme goo molle goo godde.

          goo molle goo ratte

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          I am afraid Sach choses to ignore history. There was a distinct Tamil presence in the present North-East prior to the arrival of the first Colonisers, the Portugese, in 1505 and a highly developed and long established one. If King Sankili was there, clearly there were his predecessors – all of nobility.

          The Sinhala fear today is in case they accept the reality of a Tamil presence this will strengthen Southern Sinhala fears of the North-East seeking separation with Tamilnadu help. This is the nonsense given succour to by such deranged minds as Nalin de S, Gunadasa A and a host of Sinhala pseudo-patriots quickly cottoned on to by demagogues like Dinesh G, PaCha Ranawake, Udaya G and a whole host of Sinhala politicians trading on fragile Sinhala patriotism.

          Kettikaran

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            I think your history knowledge of jaffna is poor. The so called Cankili before portugese arrival was a vassal state by the SOuth Indian kingdom which started after 12AD. It had a 200 years of existence.

            when you say ‘clearly Cankili’s predecessor were there’ it shows how ill informed you are.

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    a very balanced speech

    now I think the army should also take over 5000 acres of land surrounding Katunayake,Ratmalana,Boosa,Trinco,Sigiriya,Panagoda and make them HSZ in the name of security ;-)

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      But there are no anti national elements in those areas and no possible proxy for external threats..:)

      when 88-89 insurgency was in full swing, there were army camps in sinhala south.

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    Chief Minister Justice Wigneswaran, I think the time is ripe for you to answer all the comments, at least briefly which are contributed by all the commentators. We want you to answer so that we can understand YOUR RATIONALE for a) timing of the Genocide Resolution; b) reason for the resolution it self, other than the reasons you have stated in the resolution; c) are you or are you not playing to the tune of the LTTE Flag carrying Diaspora. Please be HONEST.

    I am one who was delighted when you were appointed CM and thought you would be the “Light” to all politicians in Sri Lanka. Now I have major doubt!

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    Did this old judge feel that about the Tiger army ? What about if the people in Homagama ask the army to remove their camp from there ? You are an utter hypocrit. When you were a judge you got the police and sometimes army to carry out his orders.

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      Folks

      Well not only that this Vegie also got SL army protection being CJ at that time.

      By the way, he was so liberal on his kids allowing them to marry Genocide Sinhalese wives. He is a typical hypocrat and carries early signs of dementia now. He should really retire from this politics and enjoy his retirement before kissing the dust.

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        Mad Dad.croak on coak – o- cola; make tea in your wowla no??
        smelly socks , your bed smells of peanuts says the folk!

        thy say if you hear a max/min noice, and fell a smell a little smell it’s that Jerk in Tights from Dumbass Heights- salagama silva max of past.

        :-))))

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    Some are using SL Tamils as hostages for bargain of arrogant demands. What is international Terrorism. The International policemen are scared or unwilling to take the honest action

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    These lands have been illegally seized from the Tamils and continue to keep illegally, Civil rights are ignored and abused. as long as PTA and Emergency is the de facto rule, it is oppression. Oppression is not a civilised character but opposite to it. those who condone it are uncivilized, unhuman.

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    These others will never understand the suffering of Tamils or minorities or realize the pain, unfair treatments, living in pathetic condition in camps after loosing their lands to army or in the midst of gun trotting racist and rapist forces,unable to live in peace doing their own things,, study, work without any kind of intimidation..until and unless they get a chance to go through and live in the same condition.
    How would they feel if their houses were bulldozed, arable and fertile farm land taken over by forces for building hotel, swimming pools, to settle families of forces, to do vegetable and poultry farming in the guise of HSZ and made the rightful owners to live in camps ?

    Guys just write nonsense because they are unable to see injustice done to Tamils. The continued racist lessons and selfish politicians sermons, anti minority media hypes have brainwashed and blinding the majority who couldn’t see the harmful things being done to others. It’s just crude racism and nothing else.
    The wounds are septic, not much progress in sight, no one is prepared to take drastic action to correct the injustice, or adopt the rule of law, scared of racists, worried of loosing power… and so nothing will get resolved but things will degenerate into anarchy chaos and lead to mass protests, strong UN involvement may finally lead to division, even if no one like it. Majority will never do anything but just play games and continue with their same old delay tactics.. International intervention will become necessary due to the GoSL follies ! Blame the Tamils and not the Majority and unjust rulers.

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    CM Wigneswaran is one of the very few educated ITAK “moderates” that unfortunately don’t represent or control the uneducated masses that never left their villages in the North.

    The masses only speak Tamil and their opinions and media don’t reach others vice versa. When the CM talks like this I can imagine what is said in political meetings not attended by outsiders in the North.

    What if the security forces try to buy the land they need and offer a market price? In many cases the land owners have (e)migrated a long time ago and might be happy to sell the land they will never need. Does the second or even third generation of diaspora need land in the North? They only return for funerals, weddings and kovil festivals.

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    All the mad hat illogical racist commenters

    Could you all please explain in simple language what are you all expecting from the Central Gov. of this country —

    For me it is clear that non of these racist wants a peaceful reconciliation and live in Sri Lanka as one nation – rather they wants “our piece of land”(Eeelam) – immaterial whatever happened to the normal tamilians — Which means that they are simply not interested in solving tamil problems rather they want to remain in power at whatever cost

    The current administration represent the best choice these radicals would have for a peaceful reconciliation – and for finding solutions for the ground level problem tamilians are facing in their day to day life-

    Wiggi was a very good choice for the post of CM and many non racist sinhalese applaude that selection thinking that he will be able to teach some logic to Radical extremist in his Administration – unfortunately CM became exactly opposite of what he was expected – mouth piece of radical elements – the damage you have done by your most unwanted resolution is beyond repair –

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    O.T C.

    …..Chagosians and their country and how their whole country was depopulated[cleansed of all indigenous humans] to make way for a Military occupation.That country is to date a Military Base and will remain so for the foreseeable future….

    Until as such time I lay my hands on this piece of History,may I ask you a simple question?
    Do you envisage such a scenario in Jaffna[Military is already entrenched] if CM/NPC does not play Ball with the Govt?

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      Have you heard of Diego Garcia ?

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      Dear Plato,

      Chagos is occupied by a foreign power.

      Jaffna is part of Sri Lanka. Tamils, Muslims, Burghers, Malays, Sinhalese have an unalienable right to live all over Sri Lanka. The SL forces have an unalienable right to protect SL.

      There was a depopulation in Sri Lanka (though partial as one group of a specific ethnicity was allowed to remain) in the North. That was when the Sinhalese and the Muslims were removed at gun point from the North just like Chagos was depopulated of Chagosians by the British.

      That partial depopulation was done by a Terrorist group of Tamil ethnicity and not by the Govt of SL. That is one of the reasons why SL forces are present in Jaffna.

      Kind Regards,
      OTC

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    The Chief Minister CVW has spoken from his heart. His speech reflects fully the sincere feelings of the people of the North. It is really startling to note that the armed forces grabbed more lands of the people AFTER the end of the war. This was nothing but an act of revenge by Gota and his henchmen. Until and unless ALL the lands in excess of the real security needs of the forces are returned to the owners of the land, we can never ever hope to have reconciliation in the country. There will be more things to follow the resolution on genocide. Do any of us who desire peace, reconciliation and true progress to the benefit of everyone in the country need such a situation?

    Sengodan. M

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    Brother WIGI: are you not a product of FREE education at Royal? Will you let the 12,000 Sinhalese and 95,000 Muslims who were chased out overnight from your EELAM “OUR” areas come back? do they not have the same inherent rights as your Tamil people. Please write a letter to CT on that next and explain your position on Racial exclusivity Brother Wigi. Your education was paid for by ALL including “our” sinhala money. You want to chase everyone out but make sure Tamils have a right to live anywhere? Bring back OUR muslim brothers and sisters who were chased out by fascist murderous Velu and tamil terrorists. bring back the Sinhalese who were chased out even if they lived there for over 90 years and spoke both Sinhala and Tamil. Then you can ask for fair play. No doubt we need to investigate the last days of the war; give back more land but every nation including India has a right to have military bases ANYWHERE IN THEIR/OUR LAND where there is war. Dayan J is right. It took over 12 years for Union soldiers to pacify the south in the USA. India has over 100,000 mostly Hindu and Sikh troops in Muslim Kashmir and more than that number in Christian States of Nagaland, Mizoram etc. Tell them to leave too. there are no wars in Assam now. No Tamil Tigers there but India has an overwhelming troop presence whereever they please.

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    O.T.C.

    Thanks.I agree in Toto with all but your Last Para.
    The Terrorist group you refer to is the LTTE. Actually,Jaffna was depopulated of the Muslims,Sinhalese and Tamils as well,though partially.
    The LTTE has been defeated Militarily.The whole world knows this.That being so how does that justify the presence of SL Forces in such large numbers.There are concerns that this presence is to depopulate Jaffna at a later date.This is the reason why I posed the question whether the present population of Jaffna,could face the same fate like the Chagosians.Perhaps, you could reflect on this possibility.Timeo Danos Et Dona Ferrentes is a celebrated line.It means I fear the Greeks even when bringing Gifts.So, on the pretext of protecting Jaffna[From Whom?] the SL Forces need to be present in Jaffna?

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      Dear Plato,

      Re “Actually,Jaffna was depopulated of the Muslims,Sinhalese and Tamils as well,though partially.”

      If that reference to Tamil was a reference to the LTTE killings of Tamils, I will agree. But if that reference is an oblique reference to war casualties then I will not agree. The Sinhalese and Muslims were ethnically cleansed from the North creating the ONLY mono ethnic region of Lanka. There is nothing that compares with it.

      Re “The LTTE has been defeated Militarily.The whole world knows this.That being so how does that justify the presence of SL Forces in such large numbers”

      The Northern province is the 3 rd largest and has a total area of 2,195,284 Acres (13.54% of Lanka). It is sparsely populated (only 5.22% of Lanka’s population). It also has a complicated sea coast. It’s very close to Tamil Nadu. It is also an area that waged a separatist war for 3 decades.

      Illicit immigration from South India has been a continuing problem even before independence. Even in the 1950’s the Army, Navy and the Police were involved in countering them. Along with Illegal immigration, Smuggling continued to grow. Then it was things like gold and other contraband but now it includes lethal weapons. Valveddithurai was a safe haven for smugglers.

      As we have seen before, this is the area of Lanka that is most vulnerable to the above. It has special security issues relating to the whole country. Thus the demand for security has to be measured by considering all those factors. It is different to the rest of Lanka due to the closeness to Tamil Nadu and the vastness of the Land. The SL Forces are in Jaffna to protect the country.

      The solution is for the Tamil people to join the SL Forces and contribute towards the safety of the country. Then there will be adequate representation from them and less distrust.

      Kind Regards,
      OTC

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    Off the cuff is one of the best double crossing devils I encountered in CT.
    Ken

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      Dear Ken Roberts,

      I wonder whether you even know the meaning of Double Cross

      But as You and others like Pseudo Sinhalese, Pseudo veddha, Uthungan, Real Peace, Alahakoon, Anpu, Burning Issue and many others have found out, I cannot be intimidate by name calling when your arguments run out of steam.

      Kind Regards,
      OTC

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    Wigneswaran,
    If you could only remove the Tamil Nation bit out of your fine speech/article, everything else you wish for can come to fulfillment:

    One Lankan Nation under the Heavens,Indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for All. *Jayaweva, Sada, Sadu Sadu.*

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    Dear Cowardly pseudo Sinhalese,

    This refers to your comment of March 4, 2015 at 11:38 am

    Looking at the exchange between you and me on the 3 March, by the time I reply to 5 comments of yours, including those you wrote the day before, you have inundated me with 11 Comments (1:14 pm, 1:28 pm, 2:31 pm, 2:41 pm, 3:38 pm, 3:54 pm, 4:06 pm, 4:41 pm, 5:52 pm, 6:22 pm, 7:35 pm).

    You say “You see my time is precious to me and I dislike being bored. I have summarized our one sided debate as follows:”

    Ha ha, you have spent 6.5 hours at your computer (1 pm to 7.35 pm) WRITING EXCLUSIVELY TO ME. What a dim wit you are, to forget the paper trail you left on CT. No time you say Ha ha haa !!!

    Re “You called the article writer a terrorist. You definitely called him that based on the words you used.”

    OK Big Mouth, Reproduce by Copying and Pasting the exact phrase that I used (including CT’s time stamp) by which you arrived at that decision.

    Ranting like an idiot sans proof is worthless.

    Please refer my comment March 3, 2015 at 5:11 pm and start reading from ….Wigs did not write an article to CT. CT reproduced Verbatim CM Wig’s speech delivered elsewhere. You seem to have some issues of language. I did not say what you say ……… That’s the comment which carries extracts from DBS Jayaraj’s article. The one you are afraid to discuss.

    Re “And you based that assumption on this article, not on anything else as your comments clearly indicated. You have failed to prove the veracity of your allegation. “

    Ah the Big Mouth pseudo Sinhalese is also Omniscient!!!

    What I write is based on background knowledge and what is said or claimed. You are an IDIOT to issue challenges when you are totally ignorant of the background. Which is why you put your foot in your mouth and is now desperately trying to take it out.

    Be a man an admit you did not know CM Wig’s background. Perhaps that is too much to expect from an Imbecile with a Big Mouth and nothing else.

    The fool is back peddling after Reading DBS Jayaraj’s article on Wigneswaran that I quoted in my comment of March 3, 2015 at 5:11 pm.

    The Omniscient big mouthed bimbo wants the evidence SUPPRESSED!!!

    Re “You called the writer a separatist based on this article”

    I wrote what I wrote based on my KNOWLEDGE of CM Wigs and his speech.

    OK Big Mouth, Reproduce by Copying and Pasting the exact phrase that I used (including CT’s time stamp) by which you arrived at that decision without RANTING SANS PROOF.

    I can see that you are afraid of discussing DBS Jayaraj’s article on Wigs and want it suppressed. Shaking in your big boots big mouth? Afraid the Truth will expose you as pompous IDIOT?

    Re “You have failed to provide proof that the Tamils as you clearly alleged, have false deeds to their land in Jaffna”

    OK Big Mouth, Reproduce by Copying and Pasting the exact phrase that I used (including CT’s time stamp) by which you arrived at that decision without RANTING SANS PROOF.

    That you have a deficiency in English comprehension will be proven when you do.

    Re “Therefore, I conclude that you have proved the following: You are not Sinhalese, you are not human and you are primitive. If you were anything more, you would have proved at LEAST one; or had the COURAGE to admit that you were wrong about making these unfounded allegations.”

    Let’s see whether the Omniscient Big mouthed Idiot can take up the above challenges.

    What your conclusion prove is that you are a Dim Witted Idiot trying a Houdini act.

    Re “You have not proved that the NPC has the legislative and economic power to manage their own affairs OTC.”

    The Dumb Nitwit is acting the BULL again.

    Please refer my comment March 3, 2015 at 5:11 pm .
    Here is a relevant extract.
    Yes I can see you are prone to pontificating in ignorance. Please see the 13th amendment, provincial list, item 37.

    Do you know anything about the 13A dumbo?

    Re “Impurities in ground water is an issue requiring legislation to solve; therefore they never had the power to solve this within the perimeters of their power. Everyone knows this moron. “

    Stupid Big Mouth. I can see that you have painted yourself into a corner and is struggling to get out.

    Laws on the environment exists. The power to use it has been conferred on the PC’s by the 13A, provincial list item 37. They don’t need any other laws. You were clueless about this when you challenged me.

    Then there are other methods they can use like passing a resolution criticising the govt for not solving the Fresh Water problem. If they can pass a Genocide resolution what stopped them from passing a censure resolution on the Fresh Water issue? They could not do it as the environment was within their ambit.

    How stupid can you get dumbo?

    Re “You brought up many new premises of unsubstantiated rubbish; but I called you out on only two: how you thought ‘we’ meant ‘me’; and your allegation pertaining to my comprehension about you and that other moron sach. “

    Nothing I write is unsubstantiated.

    You ask the same question in many different places. Please read the following and include your views IF you reply this comment.

    March 3, 2015 at 10:32 am
    March 3, 2015 at 5:28 pm
    March 3, 2015 at 10:59 am
    March 3, 2015 at 5:55 pm
    March 3, 2015 at 8:47 pm
    March 5, 2015 at 1:39 am

    Re “SO this has been most entertaining for me. But I fail to see the point in engaging in a discussion with a primitive, dishonest moron who’s one redeeming feature is that he apes humanity rather well. Also the fact that so many people unlike your comments and share the views that I have about you; is very good news for my country. So thank you OTC for that. “

    That’s an old tale we have all heard during our childhood. About the Fox who Jumped and Jumped and Jumped trying to reach a bunch of grapes HIGH ABOVE and failed. What the Fox said then, is what you are saying now.

    The IDIOT has backed off in the face of an ignominious defeat, crying Sour Grapes. Go home to mama who gave you the contract to silence me and lick your wounds.

    Next time Loud Mouthed Moron make sure of you facts and background information before you venture to challenge anyone.

    Kind Regards,
    OTC

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      OTC – Misguided Moron

      You poor deluded moron. Therapy is what you need.

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      OTC – Misguided Moron

      You’re gnashing your teeth moron I understand. But all this unnecessary rage you have expressed is because are primitive, and you’d rather get angry than face that fact.

      So in the future, don’t make up stories that cater to your primitive racist views and attempt to pass them on as fact. Then you won’t get challenged and subsequently get angry at your own inadequacy okay.

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        OTC – Misguided Moron

        But all this unnecessary rage you have expressed is because you* are primitive, and you’d rather get angry than face that fact.

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          Dear pseudo Sinhalese,

          It is not rage. I have just payed you back with your own coin.

          But the fact remains that you are STRUGGLING to meet my challenge because you have LIED. You claimed you don’t have the time but here you are writing THREE comments but non with substance because you have been checkmated and your LIES exposed.

          In the FUTURE think twice before you issue Empty Challenges you cant keep.

          What an Idiotic Coward you have proven to be.

          No Time you said!!! ..Ha ha haa.

          Kind Regards,
          OTC

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            Off the Cuff

            The Sinhalese did not lie!!! I read all his comments as well as yours. He’s beaten you. You’re the loser and you should face it like a man, if you can.

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              Dear Malinda,

              Reading and comprehension are two different things.

              The pseudo Sinhalese has not yet responded to my comment of March 5, 2015 at 6:58 pm.

              He says he does not have the time.
              Be a MAN Malinda, please help him and reply on his behalf.

              Kind Regards,
              OTC

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                Off the Cuff

                Why should I try to convince you of the reality? If you can accept the reality that you lost the debate, you would have already! Yeah comprehension and reading are different, funny that you say that cause you’re the one that can’t understand what he wrote and how you lost the argument. You should understand it, not ask everyone for help understanding how you lost. I can’t help you with that sorry. And he’s no ‘pseudo’ Sinhalese, that’s you sour grapes talking bro. He’s the real deal. What a wimp out. Get a life.

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                  Dear Malinda,

                  Re “Why should I try to convince you of the reality?”

                  You are running away from the reality. The pseudo Sinhalese has beaten a hasty retreat and avoided and answer. That is the reality.

                  Obviously you are beating a hasty retreat like him.

                  Re “Yeah comprehension and reading are different, funny that you say that cause you’re the one that can’t understand what he wrote”

                  Any IDIOT can say that but let’s look at two sentences that each of us wrote.

                  OTC – Be a MAN Malinda, please help him and reply on his behalf.

                  Malinda – I can’t help you with that sorry (there are many more of them implying I asked for help).

                  Proof of your comprehension abilities!

                  The pseudo Sinhalese is a coward, he has retreated.
                  You are a coward, you have retreated.

                  Re “and how you lost the argument”

                  Any IDIOT can say that. You are no exception.

                  Re “You should understand it, not ask everyone for help understanding how you lost I can’t help you with that sorry.”

                  I see that you have an impediment like Dementia which aggravates your comprehension issues. You can’t remember what you are trying to respond to!

                  Though intervention is welcome be prepared to take the challenges that accompany the intervention like a forthright man or woman and avoid slinking away like an Idiotic coward.

                  Kind Regards,
                  OTC

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                    Off the Cuff

                    You have already lost the debate with the Sinhalese. He did not run away from the debate. He beat you convincingly. You can’t continue a debate you’ve lost you moron. The way you express yourself, especially to the two girls who have commented shows what an uncivilized baiya you are. The judgements the Sinhalese made about you on a personal level are correct! You are an uncivilized looser.

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                      Re “You have already lost the debate…. ”

                      And you keep changing your SEX to win debates!

                      No girls are involved just an “IT” a Hermaphrodite who looses the marbles by day and the breasts by nightfall!

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        LOL – our resident pseudo Sinhalese has just thrown all his toys (and the thesaurus CT readers kindly donated to him) out of the pram :D

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          Siva Sankaran Sarma – Misguided Moron

          SSS, the wannabe Sinhalese coward hiding behind a Tamil name and sprouting racist drivel on CT. You’re just a wannabe Sinhalese SSS; not a real one.

          Hey your fake name when abbreviated sounds like a snake :D

          OTC’s one defender. Still didn’t buy some reading aids eh? :D

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            Ha ha haa!

            That is Rich coming from a Tamil using “Sinhalese” as a pseudonym.

            What a DUMBO you are.

            No time you said!!!

            But since then two days have gone by and you have posted 10 comments all of which are Ad Hominem Rants.

            What a coward you are.

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              OMG Can’t you face the fact that you lost the debate? And he’s no Tamil, he’s a Sinhalese and you just can’t handle that! Big embarrassment you are for the Sinhalese.

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                Dear Lakshika ,

                There is an open invitation to give your own response to the comments that the pseudo Sinhalese has avoided to answer. A debate cannot be won by running away.

                Re “And he’s no Tamil, he’s a Sinhalese….”

                Does he eat at your table?

                Kind Regards,
                OTC

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              Good lord off the cuff you’re such a nutcase. Why do you think the ‘Sinhalese’ is a Tamil, because he beat you? He sounds a lot more Sinhalese than you’ll ever be!

              He’s spot on about you I believe, you’re just an uncivilized moron.

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                Dear Hasanthi,

                There is an open invitation to give your own response to the comments that the pseudo Sinhalese has avoided to answer. A debate cannot be won by running away.

                Re “Why do you think the ‘Sinhalese’ is a Tamil, ….”

                Please link to comments he has made to counter separatist propaganda? I can’t see any.

                Can you link to any comment he has made in support of Sinhala grievances?

                Now can you tell me why you are sure that he is NOT a Tamil?

                Does he stay under your roof, eat at your table and sleep …. ?

                Kind Regards,
                OTC

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                  If CT does an IP check on “Hasanthi”, ” Lakshika”, “Malinda” and our pseudo Sinhalese I think it’ll reveal some interesting truths :D

                  Actually no need to even go that far, Gravatar has already spoiled the party somewhat, because it looks like Malinda forgot to change into his girl panties before coming back as Lakshika :D :D

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                    Fake Name

                    Lakshika is my sister. We gave the same email address to CT. I think there is something seriously wrong with you. Get some help.

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                      Hi Hermaphrodite,

                      Woman by day and Man by night?
                      A Hermaphrodite is neither a woman nor a man it is an IT.
                      You got caught badly now you are going ballistic.

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                    Fake Name

                    So someone like you who uses a Tamil name to hide behind must be really brave huh? Brave and paranoid. You and Off the Cuff are both so funny :D

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                      His specialty is in his mini where you see the bugger in his elements
                      tattooed- `How to Have Sex in a Mini`(drawings architectural/automobile) within full description of his internet schooling for the dummies & of course how to rape a girl in the mini (he is a sex maniac)
                      copies there though he has locked access on word-press now.

                      He is classic Den Hague baddu- life in dutch prison and on exchange program to welikada then bomb the beggar like he wanted the bombing carried out on magazine by goota recently. A little bit of him in him- hop in hop out.

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                      Malinda it is funny alright when you become a woman by day.
                      What’s up?

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                      Say what? Off the Cuff = one crazy monkey

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                    Fake Name

                    So you’re so threatened by criticism that you check up on ppl who make comments criticizing you and your little buddy Off the Cuff huh? What led you to believe my sister is my girlfriend? Is it just your uncivilized mind at work? Pls get back to me ok, you seem to have a tendency of running away after you make one comment like a toddler.

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                      Re “What led you to believe my sister is my girlfriend? ”

                      He was referring to your shriveling genitalia as Dawn approaches.

                      You become a woman by day and a “man” by night and something in between before dawn and night.

                      He was referring to your SEX change act, not to any third person dumb Hermaphrodite!

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                    Siva Sankaran Sarma – Misguided Moron

                    Conspiracy theories oh my! Don’t forget to let me also know what you find out okay. It sure is nice to know I’ve made such an impact among the primitives. I realize that you and I have not yet had a discussion. I have neglected you primitive. So let’s have one shall we, you know you want to!

                    You have implied on numerous occasions that I did not know what I was talking about. So please prove it. Name the premises I made that you are critical of; and let’s see who’s right shall we? Look forward to hearing from you.

                    Additionally, it would be nice to have some degree of honesty before we begin our discussion don’t you think? I am Sinhalese, so being called Sinhalese is the truth but you are hiding behind a fake Tamil name, which is a little bit awkward.

                    We should start with a modicum of honesty don’t you think, so tell me, what should I call you?

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                      Dear pseudo Sinhalese,

                      Re “it would be nice to have some degree of honesty before we begin our discussion don’t you think? I am Sinhalese,”

                      Prove it.

                      “According to the 1946 census on population in the agricultural sector of the island, 40% of the agricultural peasant families found in the former Kandyan Kingdom were landless while there were 26% landless agricultural families recorded in the wet zone” (Herath 1995: 79).

                      1. The British enacted the Crown Land Enforcement Ordinance in 1840 to claim the unoccupied and uncultivated land in the Kandyan kingdom (Farmer 1957:90- 91). As a result of this ordinance, 90% of the land in the Kandyan highlands was designated as land belonging to the British Crown (Herath et al, 1995:77).

                      2. The Waste Land Ordinance Act of 1897 (and the Crown Land Encroachment Ordinance in 1840), annexed more lands as crown lands where villagers could no longer claim them according to the new British imposed rules (Roberts 1979:233, Obeysekara 1967: 98-100).

                      3. The majority of the Sinhalese villages effectively lost the structural prerequisite of land tenure systems (Obeysekara 1967:101).

                      4. The ‘Land Settlement Ordinance of 1889’ allowed the colonial authorities to sell these STOLEN lands at will. “Many villagers in the Kandyan area were deprived of their high lands formally used for chena cultivation or grazing the cattle” (Mendis 1951:85).

                      About a million Sinhalese are landless due to the above. Have you written anything on CT on behalf of these Sinhalese?

                      The TGTE’s Usha S S is a regular writer to CT. Recently she has written many articles on CT. The following are 6 of them.

                      No Rainbow, Just A Way Out Sinhala Presidential Election

                      With Maithri, Ranil & Mangala – Real Change Should Occur For Tamils Too.

                      Acts Of Betrayal That Broke The Letter & Spirit Of Independence.

                      Tamil Issues In Back Burner: The Problem The Broken Covenant – UK’s Future Role?

                      Genocide In Sri Lanka: It’s A Question That Certainly Needs To Be Litigated.

                      Dr Brian Senewiratne Our Hero Amongst The Sinhalese.

                      You have not written a SINGLE comment challenging anything that she has written. Please explain.

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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                    Dear Siva Sankaran Sarma,

                    Ha ha haa! That was sharp.
                    These idiots think they are smart.

                    Lakshika is a WOMAN in the morning and a MAN by night.

                    The hermaphrodite guarantees the ethnicity of the pseudo Sinhalese. Only way IT (indeterminate sex) can do that is to know the pseudo Sinhalese personally.

                    Live together, Eat together, sleep together?

                    I checked the TGTE Mouthpiece Usha’s articles before writing mine. The pseudo Sinhalese has given it a wide Berth. He is not to be found there.

                    I then asked the hermaphrodite and IT’s friend Hasanthi to show any comment that the Pseudo Sinhalese authored, DEFENDING the Sinhala race. They are stumped for an answer.

                    Hasanthi, the Transvestite and the pseudo Sinhalese are probably different avatars of the same person.

                    Thank you for your observation ha ha haa.
                    That was really funny.

                    Kind Regards,
                    OTC

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                      OTC – Misguided Moron

                      Allegations + mediocre language – proof

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                    Wee Thamihz Siva Sankaran Sarma Menon D:

                    “because it looks like Malinda forgot to change into his girl panties before coming back as Lakshika :”

                    Rumour has it that a senior wee Tamihz journalist was seen near the hamper. Is he Panty” fetish?

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                    Siva Sankaran Sarma – Misguided Moron

                    Allegations + mediocre language – proof

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                      Hi Dumb Hermaphrodite pseudo Sinhalese,

                      They are no longer allegations as two of your avatar’s are already discredited by trying a Sex Change act on CT. Shriveling genitalia at dawn and shriveling breasts at nightfall!! You forgot the tell tale Gravatar when juggling those “names”.

                      Re “I shall give you the whole of today …..”

                      Please don’t wait. Make your move now

                      There is more than one way to skin a cat.
                      A Dumb Hermaphrodite pseudo Sinhalese in this case.

                      Who you are can be proven when your past is put under the microscope. I have already done it in my comment of March 7, 2015 at 11:55 pm which as usual you have avoided up to now.

                      Show the Sinhalese here that you have defended their rights (there are a million landless Sinhala peasants in the hill country). Show them that you have opposed Separatism. Show them you have confronted the MOST virulent propagandist of the “Transnational Govt of Tamil Eelam” Ms Usha S Sriskanderraja “Senator” of the TGTE with vigor. Show them what your stand on the Historical Tamil Homeland claim is. Refer them to your past comments as proof.

                      For the second time you have hung yourself with your own petard.

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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                  Why should I give a response to an argument that’s already been won by the Sinhalese? It’s over, he’s already beaten you. I asked you why you had questions about the Sinhalese’s ethnicity and your answer was 2 irrelevant questions and no proof?! So you’ve based your assumption on zero evidence. What a nutcase you are. Like I said before, the Sinhalese sounds a lot more Sinhalese than you’ll ever be. He’s said that he was a Sinhalese and I believe him completely based on his behavior on this forum.

                  As for your other questions, let me be frank. What gives you the right to ask me personal questions like that and imply things? It’s very sleazy. I was commenting on the discussion which I had followed, and on which I had formed an opinion, that’s all. I called you a nutcase and said that you were uncivilized based on the crazy way you’ve behaved on this forum for days. That was the reality I based my judgement on. What reality and what standard of behavior did you base these questions on?:

                  ‘Does he stay under your roof, eat at your table and sleep …. ?’

                  Is this civilized behavior? You’re not even civilized enough to have a dialogue with. You’re simply an uncivilized animal. And asking me questions like that is proof of how primitive you are. The Sinhalese was spot on about you.

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                    Dear Malinda aka Lakshika aka Hasanthi,

                    Re “Why should I give a response to an argument that’s already been won by the Sinhalese?”

                    Because he did not win, he abandoned it.
                    The contract did not work! ha ha haa.

                    Looks like the pseudo Sinhalese and you with multiple names live under the same roof and eat at the same table and sleep perhaps under it.

                    Kind Regards,
                    OTC

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                      ‘Dear Malinda aka Lakshika aka Hasanthi,…..Looks like the pseudo Sinhalese and you with multiple names live under the same roof and eat at the same table and sleep perhaps under it.’

                      What are you talking about? What reality did you base this on nutcase?

                      ‘Because he did not win, he abandoned it. The contract did not work! ha ha haa.’

                      He won nutcase, he really did. Angoda is where you belong.

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                      What contract are you referring to nutcase?

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                      OTC – Misguided Moron

                      You said: “Dear Malinda aka Lakshika aka Hasanthi…Looks like the pseudo Sinhalese and you with multiple names live under the same roof and eat at the same table and sleep perhaps under it.”

                      Where are your facts for this assumption? Please share them with me.

                      You said: “The contract did not work! ha ha haa.”

                      Where are the facts that you based whatever it is you’re taking about on?

                      I look forward to hearing from you. I am more than happy to help you discredit yourself further OTC.

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                      “the pseudo Sinhalese and you with multiple names live under the same roof and eat at the same table and sleep perhaps under it.”

                      You wouldn’t be wrong, since “they” are exactly the same person :D

                      Looks like he/she/it has really blown his/her/its top now, check out the non stop replies :D The humiliation of being caught out wearing granny panties in public must have been too much, even for a shameless pseudo Sinhalese :D

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                      Dear Siva Sankaran Sarma,

                      Yes “they” have blown “their” top and are shitting in “their” Panties.

                      Yes I observed what you said.

                      The DUMBO posting under different names issued a challenge to you “CLAIMING” he is a Sinhalese (on March 7, 2015 at 9:50 pm).

                      I gave him something to digest by asking him to PROVE that he is a Sinhala by showing where he has defended the Sinhala race or criticised the TGTE’s Virulent separatist propagandist Ms. Usha S Sri-Skanda-Rajah’s separatist propaganda.

                      I gave him the 6 consecutive articles she posted on CT and asked him to show where he has contested what she wrote.

                      He won’t reply that post because he has not contested her at all.

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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                  OTC – Misguided Moron

                  I see you’re exposing your primitive self in style; is that your tail and fur I see OTC?

                  But do stop conversing with girls who are commenting as you clearly have no idea of the appropriate way to speak to females. Save your non-witticisms for the men okay. I have already won the debate I had with you OTC; there is NO need for me or anyone else to re-engage as I have replied and rebutted every premise you introduced. Please go back and read the comments I have written okay.

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                    Hi Hermaphrodite pseudo Sinhalese,

                    You said you don’t have the TIME remember?
                    But you do spend time reading this discussion!
                    I see that you remembered to switch your email address.

                    Who is the female you are writing about?
                    The one who by day is a female and a male by night?

                    All four of you are one and the same. You slipped and got caught while changing panties you Hermaphrodite ha ha haa.

                    Kind Regards,
                    OTC

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                      OTC – Misguided Moron

                      Yes I don’t have time to help you understand how I verbally crushed you in the past, thank you for remembering that. But this is a new exciting allegation. So I’m eager to discuss it. Do get back to me at your earliest convenience. Now, you and your fellow racist have made new unfounded allegations!

                      Do you have any proof at all for your NEW allegations OTC.

                      1 That all those who criticized you are one person. It’s awfully convenient if they are, isn’t it? I understand moron.

                      Two people as admitted, are family members and the other 2 including myself are unrelated. I’m assuming you can clearly prove that all the critical comments made by the 4 people including me, came from the same IP address? And you have made unsavory allusion about alleged eating and sleeping habits of those critical to you. I’m assuming you have photographic evidence of this.

                      2 That I am a Hermaphrodite. I’m assuming you have the necessary medical scans, doctors reports of me to prove the veracity of this allegation. I look forward to the FACTS that you base these allegation on.

                      This is going to be reminiscent of our earlier debate I think. Now you have made your allegations as you did before; myself and any interested readers look forward to seeing you prove them. I do hope you’re not going to prove you’re completely insane to the entire CT readership; as that would be sad. Good luck!

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                      OTC – Misguided Moron

                      Regarding point 1 and 2, I’ve written you some helpful reminders:

                      An allegation such as “All four of you are one and the same.” (OTC>March 7, 2015 at 10:45) requires proof before you make it. Proof that all the comments made on the 6th, 7th and 8th by the 4 people you have referred to used the SAME IP ADDRESS. To do this you would have had to recover the IP addresses from CT; find out which ISP was used; and cross check them with the relevant ISP provider, in order to come to that conclusion. You would end up with an official document from the ISP log to base your allegation on.

                      Now this is the groundwork you should have ALREADY done BEFORE you made the allegation. You have repeatedly said on this forum that you don’t make “unsubstantiated” allegations. Well, here’s your chance to prove it. You would logically have this information already, before you made the allegation that 4 people are 1 person. A substantiated allegation would entail that you had already been in touch with my ISP provider and received this information. Therefore, you should be able to publish this information right away and I could be faced with unassailable evidence that your allegations are substantiated. I’m surprised that you have not done so already, as you have already made the allegation.

                      Similarly BEFORE you made the allegation that I’m a “hermaphrodite” which is a biological anomaly; you would logically have information that proved this BEFORE you made the allegation. That information would be medical in nature given the alleged condition. That is if your allegation was substantiated. I look forward to seeing my ISP logs showing that I’ve commented as 4 different people; as well as medical records establishing my irrefutable status as a hermaphrodite as you have alleged.

                      I await your comments with great anticipation!

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                      Hi Hermaphrodite pseudo Sinhalese,

                      I have got you out of your shell!

                      The fact is the moment you saw DBS Jayaraj’s article you ran for cover.

                      Reply the comment you ran away from then we can continue.

                      Four people? There are four names not four people.

                      Re “Two people as admitted, are family members”

                      A likely story after getting caught attempting deception.

                      The proverbial man who climbed the Palm tree to steal sweet toddy claimed that he climbed to cut grass after he was caught up on the tree. When asked for the grass he said there is no grass on top and that’s why he was climbing down.

                      lukshika- And he’s no Tamil, he’s a Sinhalese and you just can’t handle that!

                      Malinda- And he’s no ‘pseudo’ Sinhalese,

                      Though you are anonymous both are emphatic about your ethnicity. Needs personal knowledge or divine omniscience.

                      You have been a very prolific writer until you abandoned the debate. Please indicate where you have defended the Sinhala anywhere on CT with equal tenacity.

                      Please also show where you have been critical of Separatism and Terrorism and Child soldiering with similar tenacity as you did here.

                      “According to the 1946 census on population in the agricultural sector of the island, 40% of the agricultural peasant families found in the former Kandyan Kingdom were landless while there were 26% landless agricultural families recorded in the wet zone” (Herath 1995: 79).

                      1. The British enacted the Crown Land Enforcement Ordinance in 1840 to claim the unoccupied and uncultivated land in the Kandyan kingdom (Farmer 1957:90- 91). As a result of this ordinance, 90% of the land in the Kandyan highlands was designated as land belonging to the British Crown (Herath et al, 1995:77).

                      2. The Waste Land Ordinance Act of 1897 (and the Crown Land Encroachment Ordinance in 1840), annexed more lands as crown lands where villagers could no longer claim them according to the new British imposed rules (Roberts 1979:233, Obeysekara 1967: 98-100).

                      3. The majority of the Sinhalese villages effectively lost the structural prerequisite of land tenure systems (Obeysekara 1967:101).

                      4. The ‘Land Settlement Ordinance of 1889’ allowed the colonial authorities to sell these STOLEN lands at will. “Many villagers in the Kandyan area were deprived of their high lands formally used for chena cultivation or grazing the cattle” (Mendis 1951:85).

                      About a million Sinhalese are landless due to the above. Have you written anything on CT on behalf of these Sinhala people?

                      The TGTE’s Usha S S is a regular writer to CT. Recently she has written many articles on CT. The following are 6 of them.

                      No Rainbow, Just A Way Out Sinhala Presidential Election

                      With Maithri, Ranil & Mangala – Real Change Should Occur For Tamils Too.

                      Acts Of Betrayal That Broke The Letter & Spirit Of Independence.

                      Tamil Issues In Back Burner: The Problem The Broken Covenant – UK’s Future Role?

                      Genocide In Sri Lanka: It’s A Question That Certainly Needs To Be Litigated.

                      Dr Brian Senewiratne Our Hero Amongst The Sinhalese.

                      You have not written a SINGLE comment challenging anything that she has written. Please explain.

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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                      OTC – Misguided Moron

                      I shall give you the whole of today to provide me prove that the allegations you made mentioned in my comment on March 8, 2015 at 2:02 and March 8, 2015 at 3:23 are based on facts that you can produce here on CT okay.

                      1. STP call log cross checked with CT IP address data
                      2. Photographic evidence describing the allegations you made
                      3. Medical data that proves I’m a hermaphrodite LOL

                      If your comments were substantiated; you would have this information already before you made the allegation.

                      know you don’t have this proof. This is a wild accusation of yours that conveniently fits in with your intellectually dishonest, warped view of the world. It’s a sad mediocre effort, but I’ll humor you.

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                      OTC – Misguided Moron

                      Allegations + mediocre language – proof

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          :D david (Siva Sankaran Sarma )

          Moo baby sitter??
          hello nanny crocuta!! 2 rotten nuts.!! cheee

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      Pathetic OTC,

      Sinhalese has challenged you and you are in tatters! So, you sling mad and label him as Pseudo Sinhalese. A typical Sinhala Buddhist Chauvinist!

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        Burning Issue

        I agree, OTC is being a Misguided Moron. He must truly believe that people can’t read. All anyone has to do is read his ridiculous allegations and his spectacular failure to defend them. And it looks like a lot of people have done so already; which is great.

        He’s even asking me to repeat what he said in his allegations; perhaps he does not remember what he said! And you’re right in the comment you made earlier; he is a pathological liar. He warps the truth to fit into his warped views. And he comes across as being quite attention seeking as well. I mean he actually assumed that I was doing nothing else other than write to him based on the number of comments I made; self delusion at its best.

        I think that for cretins like OTC, their ego is everything. So once you threaten that with logic; they either cave or they can’t handle it. If they can’t handle it; they rant and their nature starts becoming more obvious.

        So he’s basically discrediting himself now. He’s helping me corroborate my conclusion that he’s a primitive. I do feel sorry for him; but the quicker these morons discredit themselves, the better it is for our country.

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          Ha ha haa!

          No time you said!!!

          But since then two days have gone by and you have posted 10 comments all of which are Ad Hominem Rants.
          I can see that you are afraid to reply.
          What a coward you are.

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            Juggling 4 or 5 pseudonyms, remembering to change in and out of his(its??) granny panties when flipping between the sexes etc probably does take quite a bit of time :D

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              Siva Sankaran Sarma – Misguided Moron

              Please help your pal OTC to prove this exciting new allegation you have made: 2 people are related as they have said, so I’m guessing they live in the same house;

              But you’re going to show that all the critical comments made by 4 people came from the SAME IP address and that ONLY ONE person was typing them. This would be the factual basis for your allegation SSS. Most exciting. So let’s tackle the SAME IP address first okay.

              Look forward to to hearing from you and seeing the FACTS behind your allegation! Are you calling me a “Hermaphrodite” too as OTC has? Please let me know, so I can look forward to you proving it okay. Please get back to me as soon as you can. Hope you will not keep me waiting too long!

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                Sinhalese

                Wee Thamizh Siva Sankaran Sarma Menon D: is a wee Thamihz senior journalist. So don’t mess with him. Give him some respect.

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                  Native Vedda

                  All he’s done so far is cook up a story. I hope he can share whatever his facts are soon! Unfounded allegations are boring.

                  He said CT should do a background IP check, so what happens if you have a dynamic IP LOL. Therefore, I do hope the “journalist” can show me ISP provider cross checked data with IP addresses from CT proving that all 4 people used the same IP address for the comments made. Looks like he and OTC are birds of a feather as far as intellect goes.

                  So far:

                  Allegations + mediocre language – proof

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                Oh you poor thing, screeching in agony and desperately tryibg to save face after getting caught in public with your pants/panties (depending on the occasion) around your ankles :D Cry baby cry :D

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                  Siva Sankaran Sarma

                  Allegations + mediocre language – proof

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                  Siva it is downright funny to see these jokers gasping for air, Ha ha ha !!!

                  This Dumb Hermaphrodite pseudo Sinhalese went in to hiding the moment he read the extracts from DBS Jayaraj’s article on Wigs.

                  Now he is trying desperately to climb out of the pit he got himself into and is using MULTIPLE names to do so ha ha haa.

                  Let’s see how he proves his “Sinhalaness” on CT when he has COMPLETELY ignored the writings of virulent Tamil separatists of the TGTE, like “senator” Ms Usha S S.

                  And the absence of writings in defense of injustices perpetrated on the Sinhala people.

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                    What a sad, pathetic individual it must be to feel the need to pat itself on the back on a website when its ‘arguments’ disintegrate :D
                    I wish I could say I haven’t seen this type of thing before. The “I…uhh…ummm…it’s..it’s my sister! Yeah that’s it, sister! We use the same email..yeahh..” bit was new though :D

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                      The Hermaphrodite pseudo Sinhalese, has gone underground again though he/she/it issued ultimatums.

                      These TGTE bedfellows are dumb.

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      You are what we call the bureaucratic bullshit buggers in the mirror image of buffalo
      big bad scum.

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    O.T.C.

    So the security concerns are so great that there is one soldier for every five civilians,even though the LTTE is now History.Smuggling of Lethal Weapons? By whom and for What purpose?
    Frankly,my concern is that we need to have a process of Reconciliation.Many people in Jaffna have told me of their virtual imprisonment when the LTTE was around.Now it is the case of falling from the frying pan into the fire.
    Your suggestion of Tamils being persuaded to join the SL forces is a good idea.Perhaps,the Rehabilitated EX:MILITANTS.Then,it would be the classic case of Poachers becoming Game-Keepers! I am not inclined to split Hairs on this. We need to move Forward in building goodwill between the Sinhalese and the Tamils.

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      Dear Plato,

      Re “So the security concerns are so great that there is one soldier for every five civilians,”

      Obviously the security concerns are great but your numbers do not add up.

      The population of the Northern Province is 1,061,315
      The Area is 2,195,284 Acres.
      The total Army strength is as follows,

      The Army of approximately 203,000 regular and reserve personnel including 73,000 National Guardsmen (wiki)

      Your numbers indicate that the whole Army is in the Northern Province, which of course is incorrect.

      From where did you get the Army numbers?

      Kind Regards,
      OTC

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    O.T.C.

    I am sorry mate.For security reasons I cant divulge the source!

    Anyway,you do seem to have abundant energy to defend your views. But,thanks to you the history of the Chagosians is something to consider quite seriously.

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      Dear Plato,

      My views are subject to change if someone can prove what they say supported by verifiable evidence.

      Unfortunately most who challenge them do so rhetorically and are stumped when the rhetoric is questioned.

      In your case you claimed a ratio of 1 soldier to 5 civilians. Which of course is untrue and was designed to mislead the unthinking. When questioned you have backtracked as the Lie got exposed.

      The needs of security for the country is paramount and due to the proximity of the coast of Jaffna to South India (where the Terrorists were trained by the Indian govt with the connivance of the TN govt and the antagonistic stand taken by those in TN who are whipping up racial hatred Vaiko, Jayalalitha etc), security needs are much more than elsewhere in Lanka. What you need to consider is that the NP is spread over an expanse of nearly 2.2 million Acres and the need for the numbers have to take that into consideration because a war was fought for 3 decades on that soil.

      Kind Regards,
      OTC

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        “”My views are subject to change if someone can prove what they say supported by verifiable evidence.””

        Late granny Maggie set the trend from corner shop to `head hunters` in the west,
        what were you doing in the Canadian hole then getting the `nack` in tune.

        Then why not go away we won’t miss you. i hate a woman in sari, incorrigibly crosscuts.

        Aren’t you running up to inflation when the price of fuel at the pump is on high??
        Or are you cannibal???
        less is more!!!

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    O.T.C.

    So,all this build up with ratios or no ratios with Rhetoric or no Rhetoric is to Counter India/South India? Like,ALICE IN wonderland this is getting curioser and curioser.But,dont take me amiss.You are very much my country-mate!

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      Dear Plato,

      All I did was to give you direct answers to your questions.

      What you wrote did not stand up.
      If that was rhetoric it’s your problem not mine.
      When it was brought to your attention you refused to explain.
      That again is your problem not mine.

      Still you are avoiding to explain the numbers that you yourself quoted.
      That explains everything.

      No hard feelings.
      I just reiterated the facts.

      Kind Regards,
      OTC

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    According to the Financial Times TNA politicians now request the security forces to protect the Northern fishermen and stop drug smuggling.

    Does this mean that the SL security forces are welcome and needed as long as they don’t have bases in the North?

    http://www.ft.lk/2015/04/03/tamil-leaders-request-president-to-deploy-coast-guard-to-protect-northern-fishermen/

    Tamil leaders request President to deploy Coast Guard to protect northern fishermen

    President Maithripala Sirisena yesterday held a meeting at the President’s Office with the parliamentarians of Tamil National Alliance (TNA) and other Tamil political leaders of North to discuss the northern fishermen’s issues.
    President Sirisena met with TNA leader R. Sampanthan, MPs Suresh Premachandran and Selvam Adaikalanathan, and members of the fishermen’s delegation who attended the third round of talks in Chennai recently.
    At the meeting Northern Province Minister of Fisheries B. Deniswaran has presented a memorandum to the President seeking the deployment of the Lankan Coast Guard in the Palk Strait and Palk Bay to protect Lankan Tamil fishermen from Indian poachers and drug smugglers, Express News Service reported.
    The memorandum describing the Indian intrusions as a clear violation of the boundary agreement of 1974, sought effective steps against poaching and also smuggling of drugs from India through the North Lankan coast.
    The President is expected to convene a larger meeting with the stakeholders of the issue later this month, to discuss the Tamil Nadu fishermen’s 7-point charter of demands.
    At the third round of talks between the representatives of Sri Lankan and Tamil Nadu fishermen associations held in Chennai on March 24, the Sri Lankan fishermen agreed to consider the proposals put forward by their Indian counterparts.
    The Sri Lankan representatives are expected to place the assurances made by the Tamil Nadu side before their community in the North and East provinces and to communicate the decision to the Tamil Nadu government by May.
    The fishermen’s associations of the two countries will meet for the fourth time in mid-May at Colombo.

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