In response to the shooting of unarmed civilians in Weliweriya and Balummahara by the Sri Lankan army, today a group of Sri Lankans including two former Ambassadors of Sri Lanka to the United Nations in Geneva issued the statement below;
APPEAL
Justice for Weliweriya :
Time for Indignation!
“Some party hack decreed that the people had lost the government’s confidence and
could only regain it with redoubled effort.
If that is the case, would it not be simpler If the government simply dissolved the people and
elected another?” – Attributed to Bertolt Brecht, “The Solution” [“Die Lösung”] (c. 1953)
The shooting of unarmed civilians in Weliweriya and Balummahara by army soldiers equipped with T-56 assault rifles, armoured vehicles, and bullet-proof vests, is of unusual gravity for the consequences it will certainly have on the confidence placed by the ordinary citizen on those in power.
What confidence can people have in a State that uses live ammunition against its own unarmed citizens, whose peaceful protest for drinking water cannot by any stretch of imagination be compared with participation in hostilities in an armed conflict situation? They were only exercising their fundamental democratic right to organise and to protest. Their demand was for the basic right to clean drinking water and closure of the export-oriented glove-manufacturing factory Venigros Ltd owned by Dipped Products PLC, a subsidiary of Hayleys Group allegedly responsible for contaminating ground water by disposal of dangerous chemicals. The company must also assume responsibility for the tragedy if it failed deliberately to take timely action to respond to the legitimate concerns of the people.
Why did the members of the Government, and local authorities in charge, fail to take action, and to prevent escalation by ensuring that the company fulfils its responsibilities, despite the matter having brought to their attention?
A number of other pertinent questions arise.
- Who gave the army orders to intervene and deploy as it did?
- Who gave the army orders to fire?
- Did the law enforcement authorities exhaust all other means available to them before calling in the army?
- Did those who directed the operation identify an external enemy or a lethally armed internal enemy to justify army intervention?
- Who decided to impose the unofficial curfew, electricity blackout, curtailment of telephone transmission, and stoppage of transport along the Colombo-Kandy road?
- Why were representatives of the media deliberately targeted?
- When the military spokesman Brigadier Ruwan Wanigasooriya seeks to justify army action by arguing that a certain group had attempted to “fish in troubled waters” and denies, despite evidence to the contrary, the attack on journalists, does this reflect the position of the Government?
- Even if the claim by the Ministry of Defense is true, that a political group was indeed involved in organising the protest action, since when does that give the army the right to fire live bullets at unarmed civilians? Such actions are neither morally nor legally acceptable. They must be repudiated through clear condemnation and an independent, impartial inquiry that makes responsibilityfor the tragedy clear.
- The people also have a right to know the truth. How many have been killed? How many injured? How many arrested? How many disappeared?
The fundamental principles, rules and standards that should govern every organised State in the world today, whatever form that State may take, were violated last Thursday, on 1 August, in Weliweriya and Balummahara when army soldiers fired on unarmed villagers, killing several, among them two schoolboys. News reports allege more, with injuries to numerous others, of whom three are in a critical condition under intensive care, and also assaulting of journalists as well as youth.
It cannot be stressed enough that the role and responsibility of the armed forces of a State is to defend the sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of the country and people against external threats, an external enemy (international armed conflict) and to deal with internal (non-international) armed conflict situations. Ensuring law and order within the territorial borders is the responsibility of the law enforcement authorities, primarily the police force.
Law enforcement operations in situations other than armed conflict are conducted by the police and are governed by the human rights obligations of the State. During such operations, law enforcement officials must pay utmost attention to their obligations to respect and protect the life and security of all persons.
When armed forces are required to come to the assistance of civil authorities to deal with internal disturbances and tensions, they must play a reinforcement role, subordinated to civilian authorities.
The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR) lays down that the only time a government may take measures derogating from some of its obligations is “in time of public emergency which threatens the life of the nation and the existence of which is officially proclaimed. (emphasis added).”
The right to life, the prohibition of torture, the right to recognition as a person before the law, are among the non-derogable rights.
In Weliweriya, the authorities clearly failed to abide by the principles of legality, necessity, proportionality and precaution, violating the UN Basic Principles on the Use of Force and Firearms by Law Enforcement Officials (BPUFF), as well as the standards for law enforcement practices that are consistent with provisions on basic human rights and freedoms, as set forth in the UN Code of Conduct for Law Enforcement Officials (CCLEO).
While extending our solidarity and support to the residents of Weliweriya and Balummahara and other affected areas of Gampaha, we would like to note that in this mobilisation, the people of Weliweriya and Balummahara are exercising their fundamental right to organise, mobilise and to take direct action for drinking water, the supreme right to life, without which all other human rights would be devoid of meaning.
While it is the responsibility and duty of the State to create the conditions favourable and necessary for the exercise of all human and democratic rights, the role of law enforcement authorities is to guarantee those rights. It is understandable that the President has publicly refrained from apportioning blame on anyone prior to a comprehensive inquiry, but a public statement from him condemning the incident and promising severe action against those found responsible for the deaths and other excesses would have helped a great deal in reassuring the hapless victims of Weliweriya that the State would not shirk its responsibilities towards its citizens.
But is the role of the army in Sri Lanka now being distorted at the cost of human lives?
Are Weliweriya and Balummahara a foretaste of what is in store for those who exercise their right of democratic dissent? Katunayake in May 2011, Chilaw in February 2012, Weliweriya in 2013, on top of numerous events in the North during this period, amount to more than coincidence, with so many instances of workers, fisherfolk, and villagers paying the price. Who’s next? Is Weliweriya a turning point? Is the Government going to protect and promote the interests of a privileged few, at the expense of the toiling multitude and the citizens at large, with grave consequences for democracy, in which sovereignty resides collectively with the « demos » i.e.« the people ». Is it not immoral to actively encourage the construction of a 38-storey casino when the regime is not committed to the provision to 10,000 modest families of clean drinking water?
We must recognize that, without assuming all provocative acts are by external agents, there are those within the State too who wish to provoke and polarize. But the vision they propagate, of domination rather than consensus, of violence for elimination of opposition rather than discussion, will inevitably provoke similar extremism in others – as we found to our cost over the last several decades.
Popular mobilisation is never without reason. There is still time to awaken from our collective stupor and take our destiny into our own hands, to build a society in which we can all live together, as equals, in peace and harmony, enriched by our cultural differences, in a united Sri Lanka.
It is Time for Indignation! Let us take collective action to ensure respect for the rights and dignity for all!
Signed by:
Tamara Kunanayakam, Economist, former Permanent Representative/Ambassador of Sri Lanka to the United Nations in Geneva & the Vatican, and in Havana; Mandana Ismail Abeywickrema, Journalist/President, Sri Lanka Journalists’ Trade Union (SLJTU); Dr. Sarath Buddhadasa, Management Consultant; Nirmal Ranjith Dewasiri, President/The Federation of University Teachers’ Association (FUTA); Amar Gunetilleke. Consultant; Vajira Gunawardena, Artist; Jayanthi Gunawardena, Tourism Professional;
M.A.M. Fazul; Dr. Manoranjana Herath, Sculptor/Lecturer, University of the Visual and Performing Arts; Dr. Nalinda Jayatissa, Convenor, National Organiser, Socialist Student Union; DBS Jeyaraj, Journalist; Dr. Dayan Jayatilleka, former Permanent Representative/Ambassador of Sri Lanka to the United Nations in Geneva, in Paris, and UNESCO; (Mrs) Sanja Jayatilleka, Accountant; Supipi Jayawardena, Lecturer, Monash College Sri Lanka; Dumith Kulasekera, Artist; Sanjeewa Kumara, Artist; Kamal Nissanka, Attorney at Law, Secretary General/Liberal Party, Member of Rule of Law Committee, Bar Association of Sri Lanka; Subramaniam Nagendra, Engineer; Dr. Newton Peiris, Vice-President/Liberal Party; Selyna Peiris, Attorney-at-Law, former Chair/Council of Asian Liberals and Democrats Youth; Wasantha Samarasinghe, President/Inter Company Employees’ Union (ICEU); Dr. Ranil Senanayake, Systems Ecologist; M.H. Mohamed Hisham, Former Convenor (2007-2009), Sri Lankan Youth Parliament; Easwaran Christian Rutnam, Journalist/Foreign Correspondent; Chandraguptha Thenuwara, Artist; Fr. Vimal Tirimanna, CSsR; Dr. A C. Visvalingam, President/The Citizens’ Movement for Good Governance – CIMOGG; J.C. Weliamuna, senior lawyer and anti corruption activist; Priyantha Udagedara, Artist; Rajiva Wijesinha, MP; Javid Yusuf, Attorney at Law
To sign the Appeal “Justice for Weliweriya – Time for Indignation!” please send your signatures to benari2012@gmail.com
J.muthu / August 7, 2013
Sinhala blood more value than tamils. You morons you all defended this brutal govt killing all innocent tamils.
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Sarinda / August 7, 2013
Gota the goon MUST RESIGN and a full and transparent inquiry carried out!
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Udari / August 9, 2013
Where in the world when you kill people you just resign?? NO HE SHOULD BE HANGED TO DEATH.
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Native Vedda / August 9, 2013
Udari
“NO HE SHOULD BE HANGED TO DEATH.”
If you continue this practice of hanging your enemy who is going to hang the last person?
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Aney Apochchi! / August 9, 2013
Udari:
You are being facetious, aren’t you?
IN SRI LANKA THEY DON’T HANG PEOPLE FOR MURDER, THEY MURDER THOSE WHO PROTEST AGAINST SUCH ACTS.
THAT IS THE UNWRITTEN PART OF THE “MAHINDA CHINTANAYA” AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN!
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sea / August 7, 2013
well said. This is the sad reality
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Kalu Malli / August 8, 2013
Muthu, at least some Tamils demanded a separate state and suicide bombed their fellow citizens…where as here…these only demanded CLEAN WATER. Unlike some of the Sun God worshippers.
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M.SIVANANTHAN / August 8, 2013
You morons defended LTTE criminals and justified their killings of Tamils.
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j.muthu / August 9, 2013
ADoi M.Sivananthan, I knew u severely punished by ltte. You cheated so many people, any way how can you say I sympathize ltte idiots. Shut up you idiot.
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lal / August 9, 2013
To J Muttu
Please feel free to express your views but in a civilised manner. Take a lesson from “Native Vedda”, who comments often but, in a cultured manner. If a “Vedda” can do that, so can you. Lets keep this forum civilised.
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J.muthu / August 9, 2013
Sorry I will in future.
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JayGee / August 8, 2013
Ending the war and state terror against a democratic protest are separate issues. The former was a case of bringing to end a brutal war of terrorism that was waged by the LTTE ably supported by a large segment of civilians who were entually used by the murderous LTTE as human shields, whilst the latter was pure state terror to protect a very prominent MR henchmen Dammika Perera’s (Chairman Haylese which owns Dipped Products) empire which clearly is in breach of polluting the water of poor village folk from weliweriya.
The very fact that some of the petitioners are former spokesman of the MR govt goes to show that they fear only injustice and not the thuggery that now is synonymous with MR&CO, I salute you DianJ, TamaraK etc for standing up for justice
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Muliyawaikkal / August 12, 2013
Tamil blood is tiger blood! Not human!
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Rohan / August 7, 2013
We asked for water tanks, they sent army tanks…..
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Christian / August 7, 2013
good one
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Kalu Malli / August 8, 2013
Fast becoming the Shit Hole of Asia.
But then again, come the next election..the gullible SL voter will be seduced by a rice packet and the Rs 500 note :)
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Burt / August 7, 2013
The same people who sugar coated and covered cold blodded murder and rape of innocent women and children for govt perks now concerned of who gave orders to shoot.
How come this question never came up when over 40,000 murdered in cold blood and woung women sexually abused and murdered.
Next they will want to know how to attain sainthood.
Its a disgrace when educated men sell their soul for a few silver coins.
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KABI / August 8, 2013
Well said… the signatories Tamara, Rajiva and Dayan all defended the government of Sri Lanka on killing of 1000s of Tamils in the north.
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Dr Dayan Jayatilleka / August 8, 2013
“What confidence can people have in a State that uses live ammunition against its own unarmed citizens, whose peaceful protest for drinking water cannot by any stretch of imagination be compared with participation in hostilities in an armed conflict situation?”
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Ajith / August 8, 2013
Whether it is armed conflict or non armed conflict, unarmed civilians were targeted intentionally by state machinery.
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KR / August 9, 2013
Many of the casualties of the ethnic conflict were unarmed civilians whom the Dayan Jayatilleke’s preferred to forget, in their defence of the armed forces and the government they worked for.
There is no difference. Innocents were killed in the North and now we see it happening in the South too.
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Native Vedda / August 8, 2013
Dr Dayan Jayatilleka
Oh please, take a break.
You need a break before you join Ranil.
Go spend some time in Cuba.
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mahela / August 9, 2013
Dr Dayan Jayatilleka.
Please keep fighting against injustice. Make your voice for Voiceless, helpless and harmless people who are looking justice.
People have lost faith in Parliament which is been run like a Whore House. The whores could be bought by money anytime by the King pin pimps.
It is you like intellectuals and respected should come foreward at this crucial time to fight against Family Dictators.
Make your voice herd both in Sri Lanka and abroad.
The devil is looking for the next Prey.
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Native Vedda / August 9, 2013
mahela
Are you out of your mind?
Dayan was a minister in Peruma’s Council while EPRLF perpetrated all kind of human rights violations.
He was supposed to be a key adviser to Premadasa while his armed forces and UNP thugs went on killing innocent Sinhala civilians all over South.
Later he was not only an war monger in MR’s court but went to Geneva to defend MR and his state.
Where there is human rights violation you are guaranteed Dayan’s support for the perpetrators.
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mahela / August 9, 2013
Native Vedda,
Yes I know Dr.Dayan fought heavily to defend MR and Sri Lanka during the peak of the war at UNHRC at Geneva and at the UN.
I think at that time Dr.Dayan did the appropriate thing and everybody at UN believed his word and his promises, as they honoured his self respect, honesty, integrity and academic qualifications.That’s the reason they won the Geneva UNHRC.
But soon after end of the war during 2010,2011 aqnd 2012 MR turned everything upside down and let down both the UN, UNHRC and our UN reps, including Dr.Dayan, Rajiva and Tamara.
These led them to leave UNHRC and MR replaced them with a Phony Sri Lankan UN reps which led by the puppet GLP which led us defeating at subsequent elections.
Now MR cannot play anymore pandu with UN and now he has to deliver every thing he promissed to UNHRC.
We will see how the end going to unfold.
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Native Vedda / August 8, 2013
Dr Dayan Jayatilleka
Also please give us a break.
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Sengodan. M / August 8, 2013
There is ample evidence of innocent civilians and those who took refuge in hospitals and places of worship having been targeted in the North. Human beings are human beings irrespective of their ethnicity. So why adopt double standards? Would you now say only seeing is believing to defend your erratic stand earlier? Shame on you all!
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Native Vedda / August 8, 2013
Sengodan. M
“So why adopt double standards?”
There is no double standard, that is the standard.
Don’t forget this is Sinhala/Buddhist country.
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Lanka liar / August 8, 2013
I thought it is a Buddhist /Sinhala country
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Native Vedda / August 9, 2013
Lanka liar
“I thought it is a Buddhist /Sinhala country”
Show me a Buddhists in this island I will convert the rest of the world to Buddhism.
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Kumar R / August 8, 2013
The rats abandoning the sinking ship?
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Aney Apochchi! / August 9, 2013
Kumar R:
WRONG! These are “Ooru-meeyas,” bandicoots.
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Katmai / August 8, 2013
“Ane baba”! After all these years, the guy has still not figured out what people are complaining about is torture, rape and killing of innocent civilians and not hostilities with the LTTE. Wonder how he justifies rape during “hostilities in an armed conflict situation”.
Hey, you forgot to mention you 2009 win at the UN there buddy. You must be so proud of your “duty” to the regime because you sure as hell didn’t help the people of this country. If the regime’s feet were held to the fire back then people in Weliveriya wouldn’t be dead today. Sleep well!
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lal / August 9, 2013
Not many people complain of Army’s actions in 2009, except terrorist sympathisers and supporters. The army finished off a bunch of terrorsist, racist, thugs in 2009. Well done!
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Burt / August 8, 2013
“compared with participation in hostilities in an armed conflict situation?””
What a bunch of crap to justify rape and murder of people that were either captured or that sought refuge. I would expect this from Modawanse not from you.
I thought you were politically bankrupt when you were pulled out of France now I see that your morally bankrupt too.
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JULAMPITIYE AMARAYA / August 8, 2013
Dear Dr;
I am just an o/ l passed Sinhalese villager from east of sri lanka.[ the wander land of Universe]
and I do not have any Doctorates tags or tails behind my name.
according to my little knowledge,
Mind you,
you all were/are scratching the backs of filthy governance.
You states;
“What confidence can people have in a State that uses live ammunition against its own unarmed citizens,
” compared with participation in hostilities in an armed conflict situation?”
dear Drs you all,
At the Genève, So you all approved the killing of civilians at the last stage of war, defending the Government of Sri lanka hiding the facts that, some helped to killer pirapaharan to deceive the Tamils to arm and lure in to the death trap.
And That time YOU ALL DID NOT ASK;
“What confidence can people have in a State that uses live ammunition against its own unarmed citizens.
Were they Armed citizens of sri lanka when LTTE fired at the civilians, running away from the war zone?.
YES OFCAUSE,
PROUDLY, YOU DID NOT BETRAYED THE MOTHERLAND,
BUT YOU ALL BETRAYED THE HUMANISM.
Doesn’t It, my dear Dr????????????/.
Because, At That Time I was In VAUNIYA, Looking, Searching FOr my Friend’s Elderly sick Parents, Who were trapped in the war theatre.
And I have First Hand experience on that Humanitarian operation done by our Heroes.[no offence to the
but as your heart knows that those civilians were cornered to a Land called NO FIRE ZONE [ my AXX] by the Government Forces.
And Now You All Singing a Total different type of BAILA.
Where is That, “TRUTH, NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?”.
Any way I have done my duty signing the appeal.
good luck for you all “PATRIOTS”,
JULAMPITIYE AMARAYA.[I R C, WELIKADA,]
[I R C, Changi, Singapore]
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Aney Apochchi! / August 9, 2013
D.J:
There should be an annual award for the hypocrite with the smallest percentage of shame and, when there is, I would have great pleasure in recruiting everyone of decency to nominate you for that prize!
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Sun / August 9, 2013
Dayan@
let me remind you how the french settled similar kind of demonstrations two years ago in Paris. I think it was an issue related to asylum seekers from north africa. Most of them protested asking their rights. None of the domonstrators were attacked by police or army. Sure, you were in France at the time- dozens of this kind of protests were the fact – you people still as govt´s supporters ( I really dont know any good natured one can ever support the actions of ruling coalition) – should repeatedly advice the top leadership not to repeat the incidents like seen in Weliweriya. The top leadership of the country has no vision at all.
All others incl. me are just little simons though keep adding their dissident views to this or any platforms.
Security can be a threat for you too – but you yourself insisted the world that MR leaderships would bring peace to the country. You also attacked all other political forces, that MR would be the only leader who would bring prosper to the island.
Had the protests on the european soils seen like what we got to see at Weliweriya – how would have their leaders reacted ?
Has MR (as the minister of defence)or the minster of justice (SRILANKA´s joke right at the moment) uttered a single statment regarding the brutal acts by which few youth were shot dead in Weliweriya ?
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Muliyawaikkal / August 12, 2013
Dayan,
The real reason here is water is pumped out of Sinhala areas like Ambathalai, Labugama, Kalatiwaw and sent to Tamil areas like Wellawatta, Kotahena, etc.
If this stops the water can be diverted to Welweriya.
Why this stupid government is not doing that?
Why steal water from voters and give to non voters?
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Anura / August 8, 2013
Burt,
There is another side to this story too. While those 40,000 or more people were having their last breath, yours (assumed as Sinhalese) and my fathers and brothers who were 80% of the country celebrated the event with Kawun/KiriBath and fire crackers..
How can we blame Tamara or Dayan or other prominent people for not making strong or noticeable protest at that time when masses of our common fathers and brothers celebrated death of their own Tamil brothers/sisters openly with Rajapakse family???
In this sense, we all have blood in our hands.
But we can change and we have changed…
Dayan and Tamara who are more intelligent and posses more leadership qualities (definitely than me) can change too..
Anura
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Aney Apochchi! / August 9, 2013
Anura:
Your statement, “Dayan and Tamara who are more intelligent and posses more leadership qualities (definitely than me) can change too..”, is interesting. I would suggest that your intelligence is also not on a par with those Rajapassa bootlickers. However, please drop me a note the next time you see a set of leopards change their spots or when a Bengal Tiger grows horns!
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Suresh / August 9, 2013
Who are all these ‘Group of Citizens’?
What if Weliweriya was a Tamil area and those dead were Tamils?
Will any of these men/women come out to sign such a thing?
Tens of thousands of Tamil civilians were killed by this same Army and all these people were rejoicing. These Sinhalese deserve to taste the same bitter pill to understand what the Tamils went through. Let more and more such incidents happen in the South.
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Hameed / August 7, 2013
If the one who ordered the army to move in and shoot innocent unarmed children is exposed, what then?
Israel is a Jewish racist and mono ethnic fascist state but its army is not allowed to kill Jews. They are allowed to kill only Palestinians.
But now a Sinhala Buddhist state, shaped on Zionist lines by Zionists is killing its own people. Only goes to show that even the Sinhala Buddhists are a minority in this politico-military junta.
Can words bring solace to the grieving mothers? My heart goes out to them.
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Katmai / August 8, 2013
No no no… you’ve got it all wrong. In Sri Lanka only Sinhala-Buddhist-Americans are considered people with lives of any value. If you are “Sri Lankan”, even if you are Sinhala-Buddhist your life isn’t worth sh… (ok, ok I’ll call it excrement instead).
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Jm Hardy / August 7, 2013
Condemn, Condemn, Condemn, Talk Talk, inquiry inquiry, Commission Commission no avail its like rain falling at cattles.
Our part NATO (Talk Only No Action).
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G. Pandith / August 7, 2013
An excellent analysis of government’s bungling. This shows that the government’s and army’s claim of Zero civilian casualties in the North during the Eelam war a real myth.
I see Jawid Yusuf’s name there. Wasn’t he too a former Ambassador? If so way is he shy to call himself a former Ambassador when Dayan and Tamara did that.
This appeal /statement should have included fact that that the Sri Lanka government was generous enough to provide 150 million dollars of tax-payers money for a water project Uganda, but was not willing to provide safe drinking water for its own citizens who’s money that was donated to Ugandans. When asked for safe drinking water they were provided with bullets. Is Ugandans more important to the present regime than the Sri Lankans who voted them to power? This shows that there are no individual in the present regime who has intelligence to understand peoples issues than having big thamashas, like we saw two days back of the Port Ceremony and the May 19 Parade.
By the way there was a news item in today’s papers that the National Anthem was not played at Port Opening ceremony. Government spokesman said that it was due to the fact that they wanted to finish this ceremony soon. My understanding is that the playing of the National Anthem takes about three minutes. What I cannot understand is what hurry they had that they could not wait another three minutes for the National Anthem? After taking a long time for this ceremony, if they had to wind-up that early they should given orders to speakers to shorten their long speech that was made to keep three minutes to play the National Anthem, if they considered this as an occasion of National Importance.
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Katmai / August 8, 2013
Dear Mr. Pandith,
You are not following this correctly. What The Three Stooges are claiming is that the “Zero civilian casualties” claim IS valid and yet the same army attacking unarmed civilians in Weliveriya is also true. And they are able to say this with a straight face too.
Oh by the way that 150 million dollar water project to Uganda is payback for their UN votes that Dayan is so proud of “winning”. That goes along with road-projects in Maldives and what was given to the guy with 100 wives from Swaziland. Go look at their voting record. You can’t do deals with these countries secretly because they want to tell their people that they are so popular that Sri Lanka “donated” money to them. Remember how Japan just “donates” money to us form time to time; like that. But this stuff is peanuts compared to what China and Russia wants in exchange for saving our heinie at the UN. So yeah, they don’t vote for you out of the goodness of their hearts.
Also on the port-opening-ceremony. Well, they cut out a lot more than the National Anthem that day fearing people will get pissed seeing the elaborate celebrations right after Weliveriya debacle. They still had to pay for the dances who didn’t dance and those wired ancient gizmos they build for such occasions.
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Aney Apochchi! / August 9, 2013
Katmai:
Thanks for a simple description of a little part of our “reality.” It is seldom that one sees commitment to fact in the comments in CT. Your contribution was a refreshing change.
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crazyoldmansl / August 7, 2013
GOO GOO GOO BLABLABLABLABLABLA SISISIS SEEE KILL SINHALESE NOW ALL SHOUTING AT LAST AT LAST AT LAST, KILL MORE SINHALESE FOR DEMOCRACY, NO POINT KILLING TAMILS. ABSOLUTE RACISTS THESE AMBASSADORS AS WELL.
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gamini / August 7, 2013
MR has certainly got the nod from the Americans and the Indians to drop the 13th Amendment. This is because MR cannot grant Devolution to the North while RW still remains in Politics as Leader of the UNP. For reasons I have adduced elsewhere before, RW can not be replaced just yet either. All these people Rajeeva, Tamara, Dayan et al were useful earlier when the War was brought to an end with the promise of Devolution by implementing the LLRC proposals, to ward off requests from Human Rights Organizations a probe on the War Crimes. However for the time being till the CHOGM mantle is secured by MR the NCP elections will be advertised where at the last moment on some technicality the Servile CJ will postpone the NCP Elections. Next year once the Indian elections are over MR having secured the CHOGM mantle, will drop the 13th through 2/3rds in Parliament and will hold NCP elections to fortify his position purly on a Sinhala Buddhist vote that is anti-Tamil. Sometimes the TNA might boycott and in that event the UPFA will field KP, Daya Master crowd who will be forced to accept as they have no alternative. Probably sensing this, Tamara, Rajeeva and Dayan realizing that they have been made use off by MR and are made counterfeit today, are trying to get back at MR on the Weliweriya front. How ironical when all of them will have to put their shoulder behind RW soon to unseat MR. Way to go Sri Lanka.
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Aney Apochchi! / August 8, 2013
Gamini:
I am afraid that you are dead right!
My concern is the naivete (?) of some of the signatories to this document – such as Dr Visvalingam and Mandana Ismail Abeywickreme – who have put their signatures on a petition signed by the likes of Tamara Kunanayakam, Rajiva Wijesinha and Dayan Jayatilleke who have been LYING, PRIME APOLOGISTS for a racist regime up to now and are now simply RATS who have suddenly grown consciences, trying to leave a sinking ship. Come on folks you need to examine your sanity to have done something like this! Don’t you realise what you are going to wake up with after sleeping with dogs (and bitches) like these? Ah, but this is the Miracle of Asia and you are believers in that bullshit, I suppose!
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mahela / August 8, 2013
Aney Apochchi!
You say…….”Tamara Kunanayakam, Rajiva Wijesinha and Dayan Jayatilleke who have been LYING, PRIME APOLOGISTS for a racist regime up to now and are now simply RATS who have suddenly grown consciences,”………….
It is not that they lied at the UNHRC, but it was Mara who duped all of them including the UNHRC.
Mara the uneducated, uncultured,low family ground, Alibaba, crook cheap Bast…d who come from the most notorious criminal area in sri Lanka, with no self respect at all or no Integrity at all always knows only to play his known game which is Lying, deceiving cheating and robbing the People as well as the International community.
Yes, both Dr.Dayan, Prof.Rajiva and Tamara Promissed UNHRC that Sri Lanka will Implement LLRC and equal rights to Tamil people and self governance to them on Mara’s instructions.
Soon after winning the war UN believed and trusted Dr.Dayan and other Reps. word as UN has respect for them, and that’s how we won the UNHRC Vote in 2009.
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/sri-lanka-succeed-un-hrc-session
But soon after that the Cheap crook Basta…d played his known tricks on them, by going againsr his promise.
When Dr.Dayan and others pressed the President to stand by his UNHRC word what the crook did was to use his known “Condom theory” card on them which is to use and dump. That’s how they were kicked over board and brought in another set of Jokers.
But then the As…s hol…e got the works during 2011, 2012 and 2013 UNHRC summit with a humiliation defeat in front of the world, and now Mara got the famous ” International Pariah” title.
By the way did you watch the following Youtube video to see how the crook joker lies to the International community….Watch the following webs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzGj2hYoymo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGQqwcxA6cg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqTShnnnd3A&list=PL097F0A4C81D2BB47
You wait and see how the Joker Liar going to face CHOGM delegation in Sri Lanka. It is going to be the most humiliating event in his whole life.
The status of his family upbringing and his Buddhist Sinhala Race has clearly shown to the world, and that’s why he cannot even go to England or Malaysia anymore for a conference.
Therefore you cannot put the blame on Dr.Dayan and other’s when the so called Buddhist Sinhala Joker Liar deceiving everybody. It is he who deceived everybody and not Dr.Dayan and other UN Sri Lankan staff.
We are happy to see now Dr.Dayan and other Academics and Well respected and reputed Scholars are uniting together to save our country from the absolute Lunatic Dictator Marauder family.
It is time to bring justice to helpless, voiceless and innocent victims.
With regarding to Weliweriya incedint, there are few more questions to answer.
1)Why was ths factory rushing so hard to remove the two containers from this latex factory when people were protesting. It was Mervin who came first to remove them, but the villagers did not allow suspecting the contents in it. Was it the alcohol Spirit that custom ceased recently.
2)Was this the same containers that was caught by customs which contained Spirit that use to make alcohol. The two illicit alcohol spirit containers went missing from the Custom warehouse recently.
3)There are underground Kasippu business going in Weliweriya,and people suspect the contraband inside the two containers consist with alcohol spirit.
http://www.ceylontoday.lk/51-35335-news-detail-kasippu-seller-arrested.html
4)Where are these two containers now……
5)Who are the criminal Gang that threw Molotov cocktail at Army and police. The villagers say they are not from their area. Then who are they.
6)What right Army has to come inside the Church and fire and beat at the people who were sheltered inside the church. These are not terrorists but people who were crying for water.
7)Who passed US 150 Million Dollars to supply water to Uganda when our own people are suffering. This Weliweriya water problem has been going on for many years, and why GOSL did not solve this problem all these years.
8)who ordered to shoot and those should be brougtht to justice.
9)People have loss faith in both Government and the opposition Parliament. After Dayasiri Jayasekeras and after other 65 Party jumpers crossed over for money and position, Sri Lanka parliament has become the Asia’s notorious Whore House where the Pimps could buy, sell or trade the MP’s over the counter. Now they have no respect at all.
10)Therefore Dr.Dayan and other Honest Respectable Professionals coming foreward to help voiceless, poor and innocent people is greatly appreciated.
Keep on doing the good work.
First they came for my neighbour…….then they came for me.
Who will be the next…….
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Aney Apochchi! / August 9, 2013
Mahela:
I simply beg to differ and the facts bear me out. These were not some Montessori imbeciles. They were formally educated and with I.Qs above the average. They were not duped by some psychopath from Medamulana. They and their ilk KNOWINGLY AND WILLINGLY entered into their murderous contacts.
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JULAMPITIYE AMARAYA / August 9, 2013
A A;
In Modawangsa’s words, this is called “BABA HUKUNG”
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M.SIVANANTHAN / August 9, 2013
You are right. The CEO of Sri Lanka and his cronies make the troubles. Dayan, Tamara and Rajiva were doing the good job at the UN to save the name of the country they represented.
They have more rights to ask MARA to bring justice than the UNP or LTTe supporters!
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Kumar R / August 10, 2013
Mahela,
You suggest that “It is not that they lied at the UNHRC, but it was Mara who duped all of them including the UNHRC.”
Rajiva in a recent article very clearly stated that it was no one else in the Government but just the two of them, Dayan and Rajiva, who challenged took the lead in whatever hoodwinking they did at the UNHCR.
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mahela / August 13, 2013
Kumar R,
You say……”Rajiva in a recent article very clearly stated that it was no one else in the Government but just the two of them, Dayan and Rajiva, who challenged took the lead in whatever hoodwinking they did at the UNHCR.”……
If so then what’s the reason MR took them away from the following years UNHRC evaluation conferences.
Surely there’s some valid reasons to keep all three of them who won the previous UNHRC vote for Sri Lanka.
I saw in a one news article that Dr.Dayan forcing Pres.Rajapakse to adhere to UNHRC and LLRC recommendations, which MR did not carry out and left them to dust bin.
When the time came MR replaced the whole Team and replaced them with a new Puppet GLP, Mahinda Samarasinghe group.
The rest is history.
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Kumar R / August 14, 2013
You ask “If so then what’s the reason MR took them away from the following years UNHRC evaluation conferences.”
Who knows? Perhaps, by then MR knew Dayan’s victory was hollow and actually aggrevated the concerns rather than dampen them. Or perhaps they felt Dayan was taking his “success” too much to heart, and getting too big for his shoes – perhaps even demanding or trying to dicte terms — just speculating, since you asked.
You remember, when MR needed to deliver a speech on the HR issue in Australia, he opted to ask a high-school graduate from Pottinger group, ignoring both these English and Political Science professors. When asked about this, Dayan conceded that he didn’t even know there was this need for a speech – and the Pottinger contract in London for this was news to him, although he was running around Europe. That is how our Foreign Ministry worked. Go figure!
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Don Quixote / August 9, 2013
They haven’t “grown consciences” they are simply trying save their collective arses, they know what is coming next !
No mercy this time all of those who backed this regime will be exiled and banned from our country forever OR they go to jail for life.
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Aney Apochchi! / August 11, 2013
Don Quixote:
What you suggest is extreme, but MOST APPROPRIATE. However, the beeg question is who on this earth will accept these horrible homo sapiens! Would you, if you lived someplace other than the Miracle of Asia?
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Piranha / August 7, 2013
Crying for the three dead Sinhala souls but some of them vigorously defended the murderous Rajapaksa regime against the allegations of mass murder of unarmed tamil civilians in their thousands at the end of the war.
Tamara, Dayan and Rijiva are shameless Rajapaksa sycophants who are trying to show that they care about human lives because they know that the sinhala public opinion is overwhelmingly against the Rajapaksa regime on these murders. I lost respect for these three after their antics at the UNHRC in Geneva.
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Thiru / August 7, 2013
Well said.
“Crying for the three dead Sinhala souls but some of them vigorously defended the murderous Rajapaksa regime against the allegations of mass murder of unarmed tamil civilians in their thousands at the end of the war.”
Such hypocrites must be called humbugs!
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Aney Apochchi! / August 8, 2013
Thiru:
To call these people of indeterminate parentage “humbugs” or “hypocrites” is too kind by far! There are far more accurate terms but, unfortunately, not fit for a publication like CT!
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Thiru / August 7, 2013
Diogenes of Sinope is in town looking for honest men in Sri Lanka, where humanitarian operations are conducted with zero casualty and are thriving.
You ask for water they give you tears.
You ask for food, what will they give?
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Spring Koha / August 7, 2013
Tamara, Rajiva, Dayan, and others of the ilk who supported MR and his government are indeed allowed to change their minds and their stance as events change. Only a fool would try to maintain a position when circumstances change and the evidence is damning.
As for the armed forces;they served their purpose, but after 2009 they kept their numbers and went on to dabbling in commercial ventures but staying ready to serve their masters. Armed forces are essentially fighting men and they need their regular dose of testorone whether in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, the Wanni or Weliveriya. Just to stop getting rusty! Where next?
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Aney Apochchi! / August 8, 2013
Spring Koha:
They should NOT be allowed to “change their minds and their stance” because that is giving these rotten creatures parading as human beings a credibility they are NOT owed.
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Spring Koha / August 8, 2013
Aney Apochchi!
You are a hard-hearted so and so, but I understand your anger. I still maintain that we should not be ungracious to those who see the light and seek redemption. If you twist my arm I will grant you that maybe Rajiva who has undertaken more twists than a corkscrew in his short political life should be treated with some scorn. Rajiva’s Thambi’ge thoppiya dance (whenever the wind blows) is now a much admired art form in the political salons of Colombo.
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Aney Apochchi! / August 9, 2013
Spring Koha:
The only light these b….ds ever saw was that shining out of you know whose you know what, when they weren’t too busy licking it!
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Sanjay Karuna / August 9, 2013
As you say Spring Koha, T, R and D were not supporting MR. They were trying to bring some sort of positive recognition for their Country, in the eyes of the rest of the World.
MR and Co are doing their Damnedest to bring disrepute to our beloved Country in order to keep themselves in Power. It is not wrong for T, R and D to change their viewpoint, and bring facts out into the open, when they see where MR and Co are taking Our Country, Sri Lanka.
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mahela / August 10, 2013
Yes, every dictator before taking over the country under their rule,they shut it off from the outside world, and Mara playing the same game.
Mara dictates Media, Judiciary, police, armed force,diplomatic community and the Parliament and now slowly curbing contacts with many Western and Pro democratic Nations.
The dictator even did not allow the 2013 French Film Festival to continue at Bandaranaike Memorial hall and stopped it on the second day.They already branded the rulers as Pariah among the International community.
Therefore the opposition and other Academic and Professional community like Dr.Dayan should maintain their ties and Relationship with the Western and outside world in order to Keep Mara under control.
The showman will soon find his destiny in a Southern Nanthikandal.
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Jayantha / August 10, 2013
If so why don’t Gota send them to Syria for live Target practice. Ample money is offered by Saudi and Qatar Kings and Western masters.
Paid Assasins…..the new title for Buffalo solja.
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Saman De Silva / August 7, 2013
A few questions to the government MP (Rajiva Wijesinghe) in this group
1. Have you no shame to remain part of this government?
2. Have you no principles to be having it both ways? i. e being a government MP and a fashionable activist posing questions to the same government
3. What is stopping you from resigning in protest against a regime that shoots its own people?
4. Is it possible that those who ordered the shooting of innocent civilians in Weliveriya also fired artillery at civilians in the North?
5. Why did you not pose these same questions when civilians in the North were killed? Were you not in charge of human rights then?
6. Was the footage of the army shooting at protesters at Weliweriya doctored? Did your own forensic team determine that the ‘meta data’ in the video is accurate? Do you feel that the victims fell properly when shot?
7. Do you not see the hand of the West trying to tarnish the image of our troops by bringing false accusations?
8. Why the F are you so afraid to say the name of the person who actually ordered the Weliweriya killing,the Tricomalee killing, the ACF killing, Lasantha Wickramatunga killing,the Muliwaikal killing, and most of the killings since 2005?
9. Why are you Rajiva Wijesinghe claiming to be a liberal when you are clearly a part of a fascist regime?
10. and finally why are you wasting our time and energy being in public life when you are a clear disgrace to your school, your party and in general to people who can read and have memories
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Kshama Ranawana / August 8, 2013
Well said. The same goes for many of the others who have signed this document, who defended the actions of the government and the armed forces when unarmed civilians were brutalized in the north, in the international arena, but have suddenly found their conscience.
Trust they will continue to act as human beings from now on and raise their voices to protect the innocents instead of covering up for a brutal regime.
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Aney Apochchi! / August 8, 2013
Saman De Silva:
You are absolutely correct except when you give credit to his old school etc. Look at what else that dump by the sea has produced! Also, remember that this b..d is the son of a father who, over the years, has proved to be the quintessential unprincipled stooge of every rotten government he served. This rotten apple didn’t fall too far from a (rotten) tree.
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Burt / August 8, 2013
Saman I don’t think he will dare to respond to you.
This guy posts long articles and will not even defend it. At least right or wrong Dr. Jayatilake will show up.
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Spring Koha / August 8, 2013
Saman,
Not Rajiva, and for that matter, no one from the government, ministers especially, has resigned. Resigning on principle (a suddha practice) is not a tradition currently evident in our political sphere. Rajiva has developed an innate sense of knowing how the wind blows, and has perfected the bamboo practice of bending o’so slightly to give one lot of observers the impression that he is with them but all the while keeping his feet planted in the camp that gives him the good things he so desires. Trouble is that, as a Professor of English, Rajiva swears by his much-thumbed, much-loved, Kuppathamby Dictionary in which there is no place for old fashioned words like PRINCIPLE or INTEGRITY.
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Rajakaruna M / August 8, 2013
This guy is the biggest hypocrite in this group. Every time he writes something he has to blame everyone under the sun except for his political masters. It is time this hypocrite is exposed. He enjoys the perks of being in government and the hope of someday being the foreign minister while he wants to cater to the human rights circuit and keep some credibility. Mervin Silva is better than this joker because the former at least has no pretense about his lack of class and principle.
Wonder whether Tamara and Dayan will sing a different tune if given a another diplomatic position. Why were they so desperate to keep their positions in such a ‘uncountable’ regime. Funny how they become so smart and principled when out of a job.
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mahela / August 10, 2013
Do something serious……or get ready for Tamil Nadu Springs.
There are already two million Sri Lankan Tamil Expact community and 60 million Indian Tamil community out there for action.
Use your brains than your mouths.
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gaje / August 7, 2013
It is interesting to see the LTTE sympathisers rejoicing at the death of Sinhalese! This is a forum to condemn the government for what happened at Weliweriya. The Tamil issue cannot also be justified but separate it from this issue while discussing the issues of human shields and suicide attacks, the other side of the coin!!
Try not to use this issue to justify other claims
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Katmai / August 8, 2013
I didn’t see celebrations on the streets with Kiribath and motorcycle parades, did you?
All I hear is an appeal from the Tamil community to realize, at least now, what EVERYONE in Sri Lanka are dealing with. If there is a time a group of people are justified in saying “we told you so”, this is it. When they are right they are right; what can you do? But I’d hardly call it “rejoicing”.
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Burt / August 8, 2013
No one is rejoicing but hypocrits have to be called on their actions.
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ravivararo / August 8, 2013
you are totally wrong. no tamil will be happy for such worst incident of killing sinhalese, unlike so called patriot nationalists who enjoyed for the death of killing of Tamils.
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ravivararo / August 8, 2013
you are totally wrong. no tamil will be happy for such worst incident of killing sinhalese, unlike so called patriot nationalists who enjoyed for the killing of Tamils.
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mahela / August 10, 2013
This is nothing to do with Tamil Liberation or Sinhala Liberation.
This is about rescuing the country from a let loose Rabies infested mad dog gone crazy, now trying to infest the people and the country.
It’s time for all together to unite and stop this mad dog from spreading rabies.
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michael don / August 7, 2013
Its good that at least when it ocmes to Sinhala blood if there is such a thing… there are all full of tears with Tamara and rajeeva weeping the most! how cynical can politics lead a human being
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muji / August 8, 2013
Country is in Development Projects. First govt. has to built Ari Ports. Harbour Highways. Drinking water at last. Please don’t blame our Kink
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Dev / August 8, 2013
THIS LOOKS LIKE IT IS WRITTEN BY TISARANNE G…
THANK GOD WE HAVE ANOTHER LIST OF PEOPLE TO BE WATCHFUL ABOUT…
KEEP THE STATEMENTS COMING…
WE NOW KNOW WHO THE CONSPIRATORS OF THE COUNTRY ARE…
THANK YOU CT FOR EXPOSING THEM IN A CASE OF DEJA VU…
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Jim softy / August 8, 2013
I think the Army Officer who was present thier knew when to fire and when not to.
Who asked to fire ?. I think, It is the Sri Lankan Penal code.
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Wickramasiri / August 8, 2013
Jim Softly, How can he decide to kill? Did you have anything to do with it? Giving the order to shoot I mean.
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Anura Mendis / August 9, 2013
Jim softly
Your comment is the only one that made sense.
1)who gave the order to fire.THE LAW penal code (section 89 thro 99 )esp section 99. running the risk of hitting innocent civilians.
2)the gathering was unlawful as the were blocking a main road and did not disperse over several warnings.
3)The gathering was UNJUST.as the problem was settled that the venerable sir called off his FAST UNTO DEATH.
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Wickramasiri / August 9, 2013
Anura Mendis, The penal code does not grant you powers to kill, does it not?
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Donald J Gnanakone / August 8, 2013
Where were these people when 100,000 innocent Tamil civilians were murdered by the Rajapakses and Fonseka in 2009, using chemical weapons, cluster bombs and Phosphorous bombs.
Now they are screaming “blue murder” over 3 Sinhala Buddhist shot by the murderous army trained to kill with immunity. Don’t forget the same army is still terrorizing the North and East and raping the 80,000 Tamil war widows and their off springs,…
Welcome to Paradise and have a Taste of real paradise like the British tourist and the Russian girl who was raped and beaten by the Rajapakse henchmen in Hambantota.
Donald Gnanakone
Tamils For Justice- USA.
Founder,.
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M.SIVANANTHAN / August 8, 2013
Are you writing after a shot of Jack Daniel?
Can you tell why LTTE robbed Tamils in Vanni and built condos in Colombo?
Can you tell about the “free birds” of LTTE and how they become free birds?
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Ben Hurling / August 8, 2013
Gnanakone,
There are many blinded by nothing but, pure racism in Sri Lanka.
You are one among Tamils. Many among Sinhalese and Muslims as well.
Where were you while VP & LTTE were terrorising SL for 30 years Gnanakone? You were busy apologising for VP.
PS: Do not use horrific crime committed against the British tourist and the Russian girl by Rajapassa cronies to promote more racial hatred Gnanakone.
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M.SIVANANTHAN / August 9, 2013
He or his family did not do anything to Tamils in the North but invested everything in Colombo and abroad. He and his families are good buddies of UNP thugs who burnt down the Jaffna library and killed thousands of Tamils in 1983!
Raping is not based on language.
His love for the LTTE based on the CASTE only.
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G. Pandith / August 8, 2013
Of the signatories whom I know, Nirmal Devasiri, Weliamuna, Thenuwara, Kamal Nissanka, DBS, etc. have always called a spade a spade. But with Tamara and Dayan? With losing positions given by this government have they changed their coats. Much cannot be expected from Rajiva. He did not get any ministerial position, nor even made a monitoring MP for Education or Higher Education, while a frog jumper Grero got one. As a person who headed the Peace Secretariat during the war, does Rajiva still assert that there were “Zero” civilian casualties during this so called ‘Humanitarian War?
If he does not agree with what the government does, he should resign with out being crazy for money, perks and status. Voting in support of undemocratic bills and regulations in the Parliament, what is the use of posturing as a liberal democrat.
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kuma / August 8, 2013
You are right. What matters is the song and not the singer. The statement is write and those who agree with it must sign, irrespective of who others are. Kumar
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JAMAL / August 8, 2013
We must send all these super star advisors to Dhambana and bring that vadda fellow to advise our Maha Raja (because he is presently advising on Mahiyangana issue too).
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JULAMPITIYE AMARAYA / August 8, 2013
it is a insult to VEDDAH people,
Dabhana Veddaha fellows are better CIVILIZED and educated in their matters,
it better not TO give any advise to foolish, looter like NAKED KING JARAPASSA.
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Native Vedda / August 9, 2013
JULAMPITIYE AMARAYA
Thanks
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mahela / August 10, 2013
You can’t advise to a world notorious Alibaba Saradiel Looter. They are born and bread with it and which are coming from their ancestors.
My Brother with three dogs in the house in the heart of Dehiwala still cannot go out from the house for three house fearing of his house break.
It happened twice in six months.
Calling for foreigners to invest to loot their pockets.
Alibaba the Great.
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Lapatiya / August 8, 2013
I think all these professors and Doctors and others did not realize that Bullets and Bombs can’t differentiate whether the target is Tamil, Muslim or Sinhalese. It kills irrespective of nationality, need only the Order.
When the Ranviru Bullets and Bombs were killing 1000’s of innocent trapped Tamil Civilians all these so called professors and Doctors were defending killers at Geneva. only now they realized that they were defending the Rajapaksha’s not the Motherland.
@Julampitya, I Like your I.R.C (Walikada), I.R.C (Changi) Singapore titles. They are 1000 times worth than titles of Saddarmadveepa Chakrawarthi, 3 Singhaladeeshwara, Nihathamani, palapurudu, Sanwedee and Sambudda Saasana Chakrawarhi titles of our (Nodo)King.
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Kumar David / August 8, 2013
The drafters of this statenment refused to accommodate a reference to the slaughter of unarmed Tamil civilians during the final stages of the the civil when I recommended its inclusion when this statement was sent to me.
As the majority of commentators have pointed out, the fundamental abuse of state power is parallel in both cases, though the scales are vastly different.
This is therefore a biased bogus statement.
SHAME ON THE DRAFTERS!
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JULAMPITIYE AMARAYA / August 8, 2013
Dear Kumar David;
Honesty and Truthfulness is cannot be purchased sellable.
It should come from the innermost heart [ one’s mind].
we do not know, how many of them are honestly and truly speaking on these matters.
anything fishy there????????????.
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A. Friend / August 8, 2013
I really feel bad for the poor Tamil fellows who signed it.
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S.Karunniyam / August 8, 2013
Please make sure they received your comment. If they have still deliberately chosen to avoid including of mass extermination of unarmed Tamil civilians, their protest is simply hypocritical. When are these singnatories going to realise the culture of impunity has to come to an end if we can fight the state forces. The state must be fought more powerful weaponry than the T56. It is truth, justice, brotherhood and non-violence. The state forces will not be able to act, only if we employ ACTIVE PROTEST against any gun carrying soldier uniformed or UN-UNIFORMED in the streets as they do not have jurisdiction WITHOUT EMERGENCY to enforce law and order.
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David Blacker / August 8, 2013
Instead of fighting to have your piece of the pie, isn’t it more important to unite and push for an investigation into an event on which there is actual evidence instead of once more polarizing opinion? In the long term, if a precedent is set on the Weliweriya incident it will make it easier to push for action in the NE where so far there is no evidence and no prospect of progress.
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Kumar R / August 9, 2013
David Blacker,
This is again a case of “if the intent is vile then even a good deed turns to naught.” These clowns are just using this to gun Gota against whom they have plenty of axe to grind. Did you note how carefully Dayan has refrained from blaming or holding MR responsible. Dayan used to believe in “the buck stops here” theory – until it became inconvenient to him.
Anyhow my friend, in the last communication you asked for some clarification on the “if the intent is vile” concept – I am assuming you saw the light finally. However, for the second time I asked you a question on the Army victory celebs that you and Dayan had supported. Below is the question – any chance you may have the courage and/or integrity needed to answer that at least now?
“Previously you responded to one of my comments was with regard to the right and wrong of declaring victory day to commemorate winning the war against LTTE. You made a splendid and astute observation that the JVP victory was a much more wholesome victory given how definitively that was won. I whole heartedly agreed with you, given that the JVP war was brought to a close more definitively and completely, and with no unsavoury and irritating, if not worse, prolongations such as accountability demands, war crime allegations, international attempts at assaults on the nation’s sovereignty, unrelenting intrusion of Diasporic challenges, and what-have-you – getting only hotter by the day!
You were absolutely right, and on that account I asked if you would support a similar, or more aptly, an even grander victory day celebrations to commemorate the war won against JVP. May I ask you why, after having so valiantly lauded the glorious victory, you refrained expressing your support to celebrating that victory over JVP?”
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David Blacker / August 9, 2013
“Anyhow my friend, in the last communication you asked for some clarification on the “if the intent is vile” concept – I am assuming you saw the light finally.”
Given that I received no satisfactory response for several days after my query, I can’t say that my point of view has changed. Cutting off the nose to spite the face still seems foolish.
“However, for the second time I asked you a question on the Army victory celebs that you and Dayan had supported.”
Speaking for myself, I don’t think I have ever “supported” the continuing victory celebrations, though I’m not against it either. I probably explained to you the GoSL’s reasoning and you mistook this for my personal support.
“Below is the question – any chance you may have the courage and/or integrity needed to answer that at least now?”
I vaguely recall such a question being put to me months ago, and i believe I gave my opinion on it. I don’t believe it was put to me a second time.
“You made a splendid and astute observation that the JVP victory was a much more wholesome victory given how definitively that was won.”
I don’t think I have ever called the victory over the JVP “wholesome”, and if that victory was more definitive than the one over the Tigers, it was so in the context of completely defeating the JVP’s objectives at the time of toppling the GoSL through revolution, whereas though the Tigers were defeated as completely as the JVP, he ideology of separatism and Tamil nationalism lives on in the diaspora, causing the GoSL ongoing problems.
“I asked if you would support a similar, or more aptly, an even grander victory day celebrations to commemorate the war won against JVP.”
The last time a similar question was put to me (I can’t remember whether it was by you or not), I explained that the JVP put aside its ideology and re-entered mainstream politics, and since the UNP government was replaced by the UPFA relatively shortly after the JVP defeat, and since CBK allied herself with the new JVP, it would be both impossible as well as churlish for the UPFA government to celebrate a victory over an ally. It would be like the US and UK celebrating a victory over West Germany (a NATO ally) during the Cold War.
I can add to that the fact that while there was a huge sense of relief when the JVP was defeated, the continuation of the war in the NE hardly made everyone feel very celebratory.
“May I ask you why, after having so valiantly lauded the glorious victory, you refrained expressing your support to celebrating that victory over JVP?”
You seem to feel it necessary to add certain adjectives in order to exaggerate and even change the tone of comments made to you. I understand that perhaps sarcasm is necessary in place of an actual argument, but you’re doing it very badly and are simply looking like you have misunderstood my responses. I don’t believe I “lauded” any “glorious victory”. I simply pointed out to you their own particular characteristics.
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Kumar R / August 9, 2013
David,
Here is a sample of your canards – in the very first para you say “Given that I received no satisfactory response for several days after my query, I can’t say that my point of view has changed.”
Here is the time line:
David Blacker – July 22, 2013: “I was merely asking a question. So do you…. “
In response,
Kumar R – July 23, 2013, “David — Reasonable question indeed! …. “
‘nuff said about your sincerity or integrity?! Where exactly are the several days mate?
No one is asking you to cut your proboscis. If you still have difficulty on the “If the intent is vile…” issue, here is the crux of it. Dayan, Rajiva duo have adequately exposed their servility and demagoguery in the past years, that one needs to be extremely weary of their intentions in their current “apparent” lead on accountability hearing – their credibility and integrity is at least as rotten as those of the alleged perpetrators of the current incident. They are merely trying to down-size GL and Gota who are behind MR’s reservations in retaining the duo. Isn’t it obvious how carefully they avoid laying any responsibility on MR?
Therefore, while the civil society should seek justice, that effort should not be lead by or the responsibility be handed over to these clowns – for, they are very likely to jump-ship anytime, if adequate crumbs are offered.
Yes, again, not unlike the many of the local “Autobhans” of vile intentions – the need may be real, but there is a greater urgency to wrangle it out of the grips of such vile intentions. Perhaps the recent un-ceremonial conversion of the tax-funded multi-billion luxury airport to a mere spare-part storage facility helps you understand the “Autobhan” concept.
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David Blacker / August 12, 2013
“‘nuff said about your sincerity or integrity?! Where exactly are the several days mate?”
Well, perhaps you should provide a link to that conversation, Kumar R, because I don’t recall not having responded to an immediate question. I don’t think you should make assumptions about my integrity simply because I have not noticed you were speaking :D
“No one is asking you to cut your proboscis.”
No one suggested you were. I was referring to your own lacerated schnozz. Regardless of your opinion on DJ et al, you have failed to make a case why good cannot be made from bad. My original question to you about autobahns is the point. Hitler and the Nazis are gone, and everyone agrees autobahns are a good idea. What a pity it would be if people let these go to ruin simply because Hitler built them. What does it matter if DJ, etc are shielding the prez & co (assuming this and your other accusations against them are true)? They are nevertheless asking for accountability. Do you have a better idea?
“Therefore, while the civil society should seek justice, that effort should not be lead by or the responsibility be handed over to these clowns”
Who should it be led by then — you?
“but there is a greater urgency to wrangle it out of the grips of such vile intentions.”
What is that greater urgency?
“Perhaps the recent un-ceremonial conversion of the tax-funded multi-billion luxury airport to a mere spare-part storage facility helps you understand the “Autobhan” concept.”
To the contrary, it goes to show that you don;t really understand the concept yourself. There is no debate that the autobahns are a good thing. There is intense debate on whether Mattala is. The secondary debate is then whether the good thing (IF it is a good thing) should be rejected because it came from a bad source. Given your use of Mattala a s a modern day equivalent of Hitler’s autobahns, I can only deduce that you believe that airport to be a good thing, which is quite hilarious.
I also note that now that your foot stamping has obliged me to address your question again on the JVP you don’t bother responding. I assume this too was a topic you didn’t quite understand when you brought it up as an example? :D
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Kumar R / August 14, 2013
David,
In view of you claim, “Given that I received no satisfactory response for several days after my query” and your follow-up “Well, perhaps you should provide a link to that conversation“” Here is the link:
https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/flying-fish-and-the-constriction-of-the-art/#comments
– verify & enjoy!
Autobahn became a good idea only because Hitler and Nazzi’s were removed. See any light?
“Who should it be led by then –“ The point is “be weary of those who hasten to capitalize on opportunities with vile intent,” and proven track record is an excellent predictor.
“I can only deduce that you believe that airport to be a good thing” You couldn’t be more wrong. Perhaps a little widening of perspective could help understand – blinders are often a hindrance! Let me explain. There is a need for capital investments in infrastructure building. It is the “vile” intent that channeled available investment funds for a selfish monument rather than to a useful, productive public good. And now we ended up with not a passenger-less billion dollar airport, but equally useless and possibly the most expensive parts-storage facility in the world! See what the vile intent of monument building did to useful and scarce resources?
As for the JVP issue – I didn’t realize there was a question. It seemed that you were just expressing your own opinion that though the victory over JVP was a superior victory (your claim), it did not merit celebrating as that may offend those defeated. However, the lesser-victory (implication from your statement – after all it is all relative, right?!) over the LTTE is worthy of setting aside a Victory day for national celebrations, nevermind whom it offended! That is certainly an opinion – and that is your opinion. What can I say – and I don’t see the need to express any judgement you on that. Was there a question that I missed?
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David Blacker / August 14, 2013
“In view of you claim, “Given that I received no satisfactory response for several days after my query” and your follow-up “Well, perhaps you should provide a link to that conversation“” Here is the link:”
“Autobahn became a good idea only because Hitler and Nazzi’s were removed. See any light?”
No, I’m afraid you’re going to have to polish that idea up if you want to cast a light. The autobahns were always a good idea for those who were using it and for those it was created for. The fact that they were built by Hitler and the Nazis were never a reason for autobahns to be criticized. I’ll stand corrected if you can show us the contrary. Perhaps they were a bad idea for Germany’s neigbours, but then they were not built for the neighbours. You still seem to have not grasped the concept of an object being contaminated by its source. Let me help you:
I have provided you with an example of an object that is universally seen as “good” that came from something “bad”. Got it so far? Now, you need to show me that the “good” thing (autobahn) is actually a “bad” thing because it was from a “bad” source (Hitler). The reason for the “badness” in an object has to be real and not simply because of its source being “bad”.
So to return to Hitler, it wasn’t his death or defeat that transformed the “bad” autobahn into a “good” one. In fact, there was no such transformation; the autobahn remains the autobahn. So what has changed? The reason for the creation and existence of the autobahn has perhaps changed (from a means of transporting Hitler’s armies to one of regular transportation). So, if you’re still with me, you will understand that it is the “bad” motive that has been replaced by a “good” one.
Now, for you to claim that this petition is “bad” because DJ, Tamara, Rajiva, etc are “bad” you need to actually establish that the motive for the creation of said petition is “bad”. Got it now? Most people would have grasped this concept within five minutes. You seem to be grappling with it even after several days, but hopefully you now understand your task.
““Who should it be led by then –“ The point is “be weary of those who hasten to capitalize on opportunities with vile intent,” and proven track record is an excellent predictor.”
I think you mean “wary”, not “weary”, though I wouldn’t be surprised if it was the latter ;) So what is the vile intent you attribute to DJ & Co? You cannot simply assume vile intent, or can you?
““I can only deduce that you believe that airport to be a good thing” You couldn’t be more wrong. Perhaps a little widening of perspective could help understand – blinders are often a hindrance! Let me explain. There is a need for capital investments in infrastructure building. It is the “vile” intent that channeled available investment funds for a selfish monument rather than to a useful, productive public good. And now we ended up with not a passenger-less billion dollar airport, but equally useless and possibly the most expensive parts-storage facility in the world! See what the vile intent of monument building did to useful and scarce resources?”
You couldn’t be more wrong. And this too is evidence of your lack of understanding of the original concept. As I explained to you in detail, a neutral object such as a road or an airport cannot be termed “bad” because the source was “bad”; it is a neutral object. The motive behind the object may perhaps be bad, but the object is still a road or an airport; hardly “bad”. In the case of Mattala, it is not your alleged motive that makes it “bad”; it is its location. If MR had decided to glorify himself with an airport in Jaffna would that airport also be “bad”? Of course not. If he had with total selflessness and public good in mind built that airport at Mattala and named it the Ranil Wickramasinghe International Airport would it have made it “good”? Of course not. It is only the airport’s impracticality that makes it “bad”.
So to reiterate, how does this parallel the petition? Is the latter impractical or otherwise “bad” in its intent and purpose? That is what you need to establish.
“As for the JVP issue – I didn’t realize there was a question. It seemed that you were just expressing your own opinion that though the victory over JVP was a superior victory (your claim),”
As pointed out to you several days ago, I don’t believe I ever called it superior.
“it did not merit celebrating as that may offend those defeated. However, the lesser-victory (implication from your statement – after all it is all relative, right?!) over the LTTE is worthy of setting aside a Victory day for national celebrations, nevermind whom it offended!”
I didn’t imply anything of the sort, as has been explained to you already :D Being unoffensive wasn’t quite the point I was making. I do wish you would actually engage with what I am saying rather than what you wish I was saying. The JVP was a political ally of CBK and the UPFA and it would have therefore been damaging to the alliance to offend the Commies. In the case of the Tamils, the only political party with any connection to the Tigers is the TNA and they are in the opposition, so there is no political damage to the government. It’s quite simple really.
“That is certainly an opinion – and that is your opinion. What can I say – and I don’t see the need to express any judgement you on that. Was there a question that I missed?”,/em>
Sorry, I assumed that something worth that much of foot stamping on your part would warrant a response. I was attempting to gauge your understanding of my explanation, and now that you’ve been pressed into responding I see that you hadn’t quite got it. Have you now, at least?
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David Blacker / August 14, 2013
Oh, and thanks for the link. I can only say that I just didn’t notice your response. I’m sorry if this has upset you.
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Kumar R / August 17, 2013
Hi David,
“The fact that they were built by Hitler and the Nazis..” Wrong my friend! Hitler merely hi-jacked an on-going project with not-so-good intentions – but that did not work. If he was able to put it to his version of “good use” then would it still be a “good” thing? Much like the infrastructure investments offered to Sri Lanka was hi-jacked for monument building – and see what happened!
Let me try (just) one more time. “Apple” is a good thing, and giving children fee apple is a good deed. But if a child molester gives a free apple to a kid – one needs to be wary (yes you were right about the sp.) of that deed.
As for establishing motives, taking the same example, you don’t need to ascertain the child-molester’s motive before you decide to be cautious in accepting the apple – just knowing that part of his history is sufficient to raise alarm.
The petition is not bad, just like apple is not bad. However, if you accept it, just beware that these guys could flip-flop and leave you in mid-stream, if MR offers them another plum in Europe or perhaps Caribbean, or in these hard times, perhaps even in Timbuktu! How do we know that – history of all the past shameless flip-flops. Examples: From “we the majority don’t care a damn for accountability hearings” to the recent “accountability is a moral imperative.”; From “we adhered completely to just-war principles and no intentional killings” to ““how must that state have treated the Tamils in the closing stages of the war.”
I am afraid the blinders still remain too obstructive to expand your vision. Look beyond airport and where it should be built and if that will make a difference. Valuable resources get wasted when applied with vile intent – that was the point proven by the Mattala fiasco. Scarce infrastructure resources were lost in vain — because of vanity and vile intent.
As for the victory over JVP – if you feel it was wrong to say that you lauded the victory or that you implied it was a superior victory – could you please repeat what precisely you said about the victory? I seem to be unable to track it down.
The bad guys of the violent JVP insurrection were killed and the others were reformed and joined the Government. The bad guys of LTTE were killed and the others were reformed and joined the party (KP, Karun, Pillyan and others). So, what gives? What we are celebrating is the role of the forces and the Government in vanquishing evil – right? Why celebrate the Forces for their excellence in one but not in the other?
It was indeed strange that after providing a splendid comparison between the victories against JVP and LTTE, and highlighting one as being “better” than the other (I confess I forgot the exact words, and obviously erred in both my attempts at recollection. Hopefully “better” is acceptable, but just to be sure I’ve put it in quotes) you would go mum when asked why you will not support the celebrations of the “better” one. Hence I pressed – just curious.
Oh, as for the link, what upset me was not that you didn’t notice, but rather your stating that I had not replied for several days. Had you instead said that you had not seen, that would have been both clear and truthful.
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David Blacker / August 19, 2013
“Wrong my friend! Hitler merely hi-jacked an on-going project with not-so-good intentions – but that did not work. If he was able to put it to his version of “good use” then would it still be a “good” thing?”
Nevertheless, for the purpose of this argument (whether a neutral object is contaminated by its source), the premise is that the autobahns are a good thing despite being built by Hitler. It seems a bit slimy of you to now shift the goalposts to whether Hitler actually built the autobahns now that you have lost the original argument. So in answer to your question, regardless of whether Hitler achieved his objectives or not, the autobahns themselves would stand or fall on their own merits and not those of Hitler’s intentions.
“Much like the infrastructure investments offered to Sri Lanka was hi-jacked for monument building – and see what happened!”
But it is not the hijacking that has made the infrastructure good or bad, but the merits of the infrastructure itself. The airport is bad because it is in a bad place, regardless of how good or bad the motive is. The Southern Expressway is good in spite of MR glorifying himself with it because it is a practical and needed road.
You seem to be reinforcing my point with every response you make.
“Let me try (just) one more time. “Apple” is a good thing, and giving children fee apple is a good deed. But if a child molester gives a free apple to a kid – one needs to be wary (yes you were right about the sp.) of that deed.”
You need to be wary of the motive, not the apple. The apple is just an apple, and if eaten, is nutritious and tasty. It is the motive that is bad, which is why you need to establish DJ’s motives rather than attempting contaminate the petition by your prejudices with regard to him.
“As for establishing motives, taking the same example, you don’t need to ascertain the child-molester’s motive before you decide to be cautious in accepting the apple – just knowing that part of his history is sufficient to raise alarm.”
Yes, in the case of a child molester, a criminal history is clear. You have also told us that the apple is being given to a child. So action is relevant to history. Which part of DJ’s history do you find objectionable, and how is this petition relevant to that history?
“The petition is not bad, just like apple is not bad. However, if you accept it, just beware that these guys could flip-flop and leave you in mid-stream, if MR offers them another plum in Europe or perhaps Caribbean, or in these hard times, perhaps even in Timbuktu! How do we know that – history of all the past shameless flip-flops.”
So what? Let’s, for argument’s sake imagine that next month DJ, Tamara, and Rajiva, all take off to Paris, Geneva, and Timbuktu, and drop the petition. How will that make things worse than they are, or make the petition bad? What do we need to be wary of?
“Examples: From “we the majority don’t care a damn for accountability hearings” to the recent “accountability is a moral imperative.”; From “we adhered completely to just-war principles and no intentional killings” to ““how must that state have treated the Tamils in the closing stages of the war.””
DJ can explain his motives himself; what I am asking you is how is this relevant to this petition?
“I am afraid the blinders still remain too obstructive to expand your vision.”
When you lose the match there’s no point in claiming the umpire is a hora. Your argument has failed, either come up with a new one or admit you were wrong. Don’t accuse me of being blinkered just because you cannot argue your point. I might as well call you blinkered by your own prejudices. But then why even enter a debate if you’re going to sulk and say “bah, humbug” when you lose?
“Look beyond airport and where it should be built and if that will make a difference. Valuable resources get wasted when applied with vile intent – that was the point proven by the Mattala fiasco. Scarce infrastructure resources were lost in vain — because of vanity and vile intent.”
No, you still haven’t understood the concept of object and source, that is why once more you’re shifting the goalposts when cornered. I gave you optional scenarios for the airport (creator, motive, location) and explained how its goodness or badness would wary accordingly. You offered no counter-argument. Mattala’s failure is its location, not the motive. If the motive were changed, it would still be a failure. But if its location is changed it might be a success. How do you explain that in the context of your argument?
“As for the victory over JVP – if you feel it was wrong to say that you lauded the victory or that you implied it was a superior victory – could you please repeat what precisely you said about the victory? I seem to be unable to track it down.”
I can’t remember what I said exactly, either, but I know I didn’t say what you claim I did. When you question someone on something you claim they have said you should at least be able to quote them. I have clarified what I meant, and answered your questions, so what is your problem now?
“The bad guys of the violent JVP insurrection were killed and the others were reformed and joined the Government. The bad guys of LTTE were killed and the others were reformed and joined the party (KP, Karun, Pillyan and others). So, what gives?”
That’s not quite correct. The JVP never split and fought itself during the insurrection, nor did one faction ally with the state to help defeat the other; whereas that is exactly what happened with the Tigers. Pilliyan and Karuna fought VP and so the victory is also their victory. KP isn’t in the government or even in politics; he is a prisoner. The JVP that joined CBK and the UPFA were not a faction that had defeated the old JVP; it was the same JVP, with one of the old politburo members (Somawansa Amarasinghe) at its head.
“What we are celebrating is the role of the forces and the Government in vanquishing evil – right? Why celebrate the Forces for their excellence in one but not in the other?”
This has been explained to you now several times.
“you would go mum when asked why you will not support the celebrations of the “better” one. Hence I pressed – just curious.”
I have not supported or opposed either celebration. The only celebration I have opposed is the JVP’s commemoration of their “martyrs”. I don’t think they should be allowed to do that.
“Oh, as for the link, what upset me was not that you didn’t notice, but rather your stating that I had not replied for several days. Had you instead said that you had not seen, that would have been both clear and truthful.”
I thought you hadn’t replied because I didn’t notice your reply. You assumed that I was lying. it is your prejudices that have led you into this debate that you seem unable to sustain with an argument. Prejudices rarely can be defended rationally.
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Kumar David / August 10, 2013
Mr Blacker,
I thought about this point (“pushing” with one voice) during the exchanges I had with the drafters when attempting to persuade them to include some essential reference to the killing of civilians in the final stages of the civil war. To keep completely silent would make the statement bogus, I pointed out. They rejected this suggestion and this has now happened as many commentators have pointed out here.
My final suggested few lines were drafted to avoid all anti-Sinhala sentiment but emphasise that state power was being used to crush democracy and rights in BOTH cases. Even this was rejected by the drafters because, presumably, many of them have a record as Rajapakse torch bearers.
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David Blacker / August 12, 2013
Well, I think many (including myself) would disagree with you that civilians in the NE were killed in an attempt to crush democracy. The military offensive was against the Tigers who, by any stretch of imagination, could not be said to have been representative of democracy! So I’m not surprised that was rejected by the drafters.
My puzzlement is at the willingness to polarize opinion by connecting action on Weliweriya with that on the NE. The situations are very different and hardly comparable beyond the fact that the alleged perpetrators in both are the GoSL and the military.
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georgethebushpig / August 8, 2013
Dear Mr. David,
I salute you for your principled stand.
I’m intrigued as to why there are so many genuinely progressive people who have signed on to this. Many of them have been vocal critiques of the “zero civilian” mythology. Was it because they believe that this is a clear example of state impunity that exposes the “0 Civ” myth?
I welcome Dayan, Rajiva and Tamara signing on to this as they have a lot more to lose; a lover spurned can be a nasty adversary. While I welcome their new found humanism, you won’t find me bending down to pick a gold coin in front of them…. anytime soon.
Regards
GTBP
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Dhaksha / August 8, 2013
The questions in the article are all valid, and very good questions, but unfortunately, the people in this country will never get answers. For the arrogance of this regime prevents them from being accountable.
The people in the South, will now feel betrayed, but to minor level, for our brothers and sisters in the North, STILL wait for answers, that even the international bodies, and leaders, are still to get. While we mourn the deaths of 3 citizens and 20 injured, they have a longer list to account for. The rajapaksa’s will give the Sinhala people the same silent treatment, that the people up North are accustomed to.
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Peace Lover / August 8, 2013
Well well it seems that this group has suddenly found its consience now that the army is training its guns on the southern sinhalese!
where were they when the innocent tamils were killed im not refering to the ltte bastards but the civillians like the 5 students in Trinco,the 17 NGO workers in Muttur,the countless no of people bombed and killed,when channel 4 exposes them they were called jokers ,rajiva even said that there were blue eyed childred born to norwegians in the north and east (out of wedlock) and trivilised rape in menik farm saying only was a soldeir found in a tent with a woman and they were enjoying,shame on this group
you reap what you sow folk!
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A. Friend / August 8, 2013
Bloody hypocrites. Shame on you. But why now?
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Chandra / August 9, 2013
I find it rather strange and odd there has been a deafening silence from Mahinda Samarasinghe (Last SL Rep at UN Geneva)or even Palitha Kohana.
I wonder if MS is hoping and praying that he will not get the short straw again to represent SL in Geneva again.
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mahela / August 10, 2013
Don’t you know that Rajathuma always sends a new set of Condoms to Geneva.
Last time he even tried an Imported foreign one, but abandoned at the last minute.
Here they go again. Don’t know the expiry date on GLP.
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Fonnie / August 9, 2013
When LTTE supporters blocked the major highway in downtown Toronto for hours , the police did not use even water cannons,to safeguard the lives of children and the old. In the protest at Weliweriya and Balummahara we see army using bullet showers for just protesting for clean water. The mad men who ordered and used bullets to a protest like this must be brought to justice. Authorities must monitor proper ways of waste disposal. The state environment protection agencies and politicians who are looked after by these companies are also responsible to what happened.
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Dr Dayan Jayatilleka / August 9, 2013
Please read the Appeal in full. There is a fundamental distinction between a situation of war and one of peace. In Weliweriya, just as in the case of the Trinco 5, there was no ‘fog of war’. There is a basic distinction between the deliberate deployment and use of lethal military force against unarmed civilians, and civilian casualties sustained in the closing stages of an intense war.
Certainly the initiators and drafters of the Weliweriya Appeal (of which I was one, though not the prime author) have always supported and endorsed the position of the LLRC report that (a) there are identifiable incidents in which crimes may have been committed and which require independent investigation and (b) there was no attempt ‘genocide’ nor was there a policy of deliberately targeting unarmed non-combatant civilians.
I personally believe, and have published a 500+ page book to argue and not merely assert the case, that it was basically a Just War, but is by no means a Just Peace, in either North or South. I also think that this is the view of the bulk of our citizens including in Weliweriya, and will remain so.
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Saman De Silva / August 9, 2013
Your problem is not your opinion. Its about your credibility and track record where you have on numerous occasions changed your tune for personal benefit. Very few people will rally behind you because you cannot be trusted. We know your price. One more diplomatic position and all this just war and unjust peace talk will be forgotten. Sorry DJ, in a different life you may have been a champion not in this.
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SORRYSTATE_SL / August 9, 2013
May be DJ the 3 are right here, we have an administration that would never respect educated opinions. May be they regret today looking at the manner their efforts saved the nation in 2009. But the manner the very same president to fail vision to settle the weliveriya issue – just wonders me.
See alone the fact that the govt failed to settle without losing young human losses – protest asking access to clean water in Weliveriya a couple of days ago; had they the authorities worked in compliance of the standards respecting law of the country, no water or soils would have been contaminated to the manner the villagers complained. An administration, that would allow unpermitted drugs and alcoholic beverages to allow run beach parties that would be the just for least minority of the entire population – risking all ethics and norms – whom to be blamed if not to almost each one of the ministries of the current rule; Let alone excise dpt seems to be supporting those buisness men to run habitual cultures almost destroying the youth of the country that should stay healthy to rule the nation future. All these have become just minor issues to the top leadership. He the EXECUTIVE president seems to be his powers – just move a to b paying deaf ear to any of ghe grave sort issues. This is his wonder land – not second to Zimbabwes ruled by a power greedy 89 yearold.
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JULAMPITIYE AMARAYA / August 9, 2013
Dear Dr Dayan;
As I Explained before that ,
I am an O/L educated eastern villager,
and I asked my 13 year old, 8 grade son,
” when there is a civil war going on, a government declares a “NO FIRE ZONE”,
I ask him “please tell me what is it,
what is the meaning of that “NO FIRE ZONE”,
He just told me, “BETTER YOU ASK FROM DR DAYAN JAYATHILAKA”.
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Wickramasiri / August 9, 2013
Julampitiya Amaraya, My thoughts were that the Army interpreted a ‘no fire zone’ to be a place you drive people to stay in, but from which they are not permitted fire at the army.
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srilal / August 11, 2013
So called “No fire zone” was unilaterally declared by SL.
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Sohani / August 9, 2013
Donald (duck) Gnanakoon is pulling the numbers from his arse. Still living the ltte terrorist dream. Lol
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mahela / August 10, 2013
Not only Gnanakoon but we the Sinhala hav e only two choices……
One is if to allow Alibaba to keep on stealing and screwing the country to the bone and still allow him to feed us Polkudu ………or…..
Get together and kick out the Fuck…g Bast…..d Blood suking leech Pig out for good.
Basta…d crossed the red line in Weliweriya.
It’s time to think and take action.
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