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What Happens To Me At Death?

By Shyamon Jayasinghe

Shyamon Jayasinghe

“The real question of life after death isn’t whether or not it exists, but even if it does what problem this really solves.”  ― Ludwig Wittgenstein

Nothing, I say. Nothing of my ego will survive. My body will dissolve itself into elements aided either by a consuming fire in the case of cremation or by the action of maggots in the event of burial. There is nothing that survives the material body. With the death of the brain my consciousness also goes and so I wouldn’t know what occurs post mortem. There is no evidence for duality of body and mind as believed by many particularly after Descartes. No soul to go anywhere. No flicker of the dying flame that trots on to another womb.

For good or for bad the old man is done with.  Let’s celebrate his life, the goodness with which he spent  it and the joy he had, hopefully, brought to others. Even if he had been a nasty fellow let’s farewell him with: ”Goodbye old friend!” Our brief and vulnerable lives do not justify vindictiveness or the arrogant judgment of others.

I admit death is one of the most difficult situations for a nonbeliever to face. To stick by the belief that all is gone for good is hard. To most persons this is not a comfortable belief.  Death haunts our lives and we dread it. For survivors to realize that their dear beloved is now nowhere and that all communication with him/her is disconnected is not a good feeling at all. On the other hand, a belief in an after- life can certainly give the latter a better coping strategy.  All this cannot simply end like this way? Surely we must have some sort of postmortem life? Somewhere in a spiritual realm? Or be reborn in another life even as a snail or frog or python; if not as a king?

One task of religion whether theistic or nontheistic is to give most of us a more comfortable and “meaningful” avenue with which to cope with death. There is archeological evidence unearthed in France and Spain that shows that Upper Paleolithic people 45,000 to 10,000 years did believe in a supernatural realm.  “People seemed always to have believed in two domains: the material world in which they conduct their daily lives and a spirit realm that they try to contact,” states cognitive archaeologist David Lewis Williams.

It beats rational understanding to believe that even an afterlife would bring consolation to me, Shyamon Jayasinghe. Even if I enter a post mortal celestial realm it wouldn’t be Shyamon Jayasinghe or anything that would resemble Shyamon Jayasinghe over there. My current conscious identity will not continue over there. Obviously my body will not physically move over there. So what? Isn’t It the same with rebirth? Hence what is the point in taking cognizance in this life of an after- life at all? Do you, reader, know what your former incarnation had been? Were you a deity, or a snake; or given you were unfortunate to have lived in a country like Sri Lanka were you a poor peasant being eternally deceived by politicians, a member of a ruling family that got away robbing the treasury, a member of the clergy of any given religion who had sexually abused kids, or a simple joker who hadn’t two cents in his pocket? So why bother?

To believe in any claim for after life in a spiritual realm one must find evidence for it in the world we live in. Only a scientific investigation can do that. One cannot assert that science is not the only source of knowledge and that religion is another valid source and leave it at that. There cannot be two independent ways of knowing about the world. If no investigation has unveiled such a world why believe in it?

Religionists will scream that it is all there in the revealed word of God as reflected in the Holy Book or sacred scriptures. But then which ‘revealed word’ or which Holy Book are we to rely on? That of Islam? Hinduism? Christianity? Jewish? Zoroastrism? Even the Sutta or Abhidamma Pitaka of Buddhism? As noted in my previous article, Buddhism as philosophy has a respectful proximity to science; but not Buddhism as a religion that believes in Bodhi Pooja, the transference of merit to after life, the existence of deities floating in the air around us, or in the kind of Apaaya we saw at the Berwick temple at Wesak.

Furthermore, interpretations of the Holy Book have been so acrimonious that they have led to blood battles and wars that have and are destroying human lives and property. The many years of the Crusades between believers of the Koran and the Bible, the many years of the Protestant Reformation  that led to religious persecution. The current slaughter between adherents of the Sunni and Shiya versions of Islam are ample testimony. To the man of common sense this all makes nonsense, isn’t it? If religionists cannot have agreement about the Holy Word how do they expect non-religionists like me to receive any of their warring versions?

Looking around for evidence science will tell that in all probability there isn’t any evidence for heaven or hell, God or angels anywhere. Yuri Gagarin went right into space and jokingly asserted that he hadn’t found evidence of God, hell or heaven. If he were interested in the Hindu tradition he would have said in extension that he didn’t find evidence of any atman floating towards absorption in a mighty Brahma. Had he found any evidence of this ‘other realm,’ this spiritual issue would have been resolved long ago.

Historically religion has always stepped in to explain gaps in human knowledge. At each instance, when the gaps are explained by science religion takes a retreat. Science grew out of the cocoon of religion and is taking away the sacred explanations found in scripture one by one replacing them with natural explanations. Although secularism is growing most people find the afterlife question a gap in their understanding.

Who else can fill it but religionists?  With its multifarious, complicated and elaborate rituals relating to the Dead, religion is doing a great job. These rituals have imposed uncomfortable costs on the living and priests, Mullahs and Kovils thrive on them. At the nearby Taiwanese Buddhist temple one has to pocket out valuable dollars to buy merit-transferring tokens for the dear departed.

The belief in an afterlife that religion extolls has helped make populations docile. Don’t worry, they say, about injustice for the good are rewarded in Paradise. Slave for your fattening master and don’t think of revolt. It is your Kamma; so bear it until you wear it away in this unfortunate life (‘Karumaya gewenna oney’).  Karl Marx was dead right here. Religion justifies useless slaughter in the name of some vengeful God. The murderous martyrs of 9/11 were infamously promised an eternity with numerous virgins as a reward.

Aren’t such ridiculous beliefs cheapening the notion of human life and elevating the cult of death? Yes, they are.

Religion’s hold in the area of death will continue as long as we humans are not strong enough to cope with available natural explanations about death and what happens thereafter.  There is no doubt that the consolations that religions do offer in this regard are superior to any that a nonbeliever can offer at this stage. The consolation that faith-based communities receive in facing death is irreplaceable. The belief in after life is one ingredient of this. Attention to the bereaved is another. There is nothing to rival Mozart’s Requiem in the Christian tradition or the prayer for a dead woman from the Songs of Solomon in the Jewish service or the almsgivings (Dhane) at periodic intervals to Buddhist monks who attend in saffron- clad robes and chant the great wisdom of the Buddha. All such ritualistic functions are attended by relatives and friends who gather around the memory of the dead and around the terrible grief of the bereaved.

To the rational mind the Buddhist version can be appeasing provided one is not enjoined to accept any notions of a life hereafter. (sjturaus@optusnet.com.au)

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    Dear Throng: Buddhism says that there is no life for human beings after death: it soul that incarnates into another being or animals. What type of belief is this? Where is abountbilty for human life on earth?what is difference between animals and human beings? It would same that human beings and animals are same from this perspective? Where is this circle end? Each human action should have reward or punishment ? Human soul never die or never incarnate as you think , but all human beings will have entrenal life
    Do not wish to see your parent who died some time ago?
    Do not you want to see your relative sole time in your life .
    Do not you want to see your children who died some times ago?
    All people who died do not they have a chance to meet once again?
    Do they become just dust ?
    Open your mind think ? Think a positive way: do degrade man to an animal

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      Desperate wishes. I would like to meet santa claus too. And the moon is made of green cheese.

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    Death is a natural phenomenon. Anybody born is destined to die. If one lives his life without interfering in others affairs but instead helping them and if he can live peacefully without hate, jealousy and anger he can easily face death. We must not waste our time thinking what happens after death. Live the present peacefully and let death take over the balance

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      mutukumarana,i don’t know how you can easily face death just because you have lived a good life as you claim.Yes,there will a element of less mental worry for being punished for any sins you have done,but ultimately Mr.Death coming closer and closer will be a frightening experience.I was speaking to a cancer patient who died and he told me what scares him most is the unknown factor of what is going to happen to him.He was a good and virtuous man so it was not any punishment for sins that he was worried about,but the fear of the unknown.He was not particularly religious and if he had prepared for death long before he got cancer and tried to find the answers to the meaning of his existence and found them,then he could have died peacefully.That is why lord bhuddha said that since we know that death is guaranteed for all of us,let us start to prepare for it well in advance.

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        Anubis,don’t read this crap.God has given us 120 years.With medical breakthroughs if our quality of life is still good after we are 100,then we should be thankful for it and happily go off by 120 years.We have to give a chance for someone else to also use this planet.If we keep on living and taking up the space where is the room for new kids to be born and live.That is why god has given us 120 years.using our ingenuity as humans with a superior we try to and will i’am sure succeed in improving our quality of life as we get older,but the life span is only 120.

        Instead of hoping to live for ever let us try to maximize the use of the limited time available in a worthwile manner.Death is guaranteed so don’t read this rubbish that is deliberatly targeted at our weak points of fear of death.

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    Dear P. Mulliyaikal. A real life starts from your death: this life has its ending.: it is clear: every one who are born must die. It is not because you like it or unlikes it. you are born here or you should die here: it is well designed for you by God alone: you did not know to which parent you will be born, where will be born, which place you will be born, who will be your sisters and brothers , how tall you will be, how many year you will live on earth,?
    which place you will be dying or how you will be dying when you will be dying ? All these questions are not in your control but what is in your control is how did you live on earth? How you behave on earth. what good and what bad actions you have done? To answer to these question you and me need to have next life it is eternal life? Otherwis, this life would not have meaning ?Death is not end of life it is beginning of real life , life of reward or accountability starts with death.
    Do not think you would not be accountable to all what you enjoy on earth. What we enjoy on earth is not made by man. all natural resources given to man by God and do not think that God would spare without accounting for what you and me eat? and enjoy? It is not these lunatics who gave us all life time resources on earth rather it is God who created us, this universe and its recourses. It is he who is a real owner of this universe and we human beings are just like strangers on this land , some live here for 50 years, some live 60 years, some may live for 100 years, some lives for a few days and all go back Him, this is temporary life and real life starts with death, be prepared for that, and do not follow this devil man in from of human being, it is my belief that people appear in devil form time to time in each and every age, indeed, everywhere you could see devils incarnating in the form human beings. This may be Srilankan devil who tries misguide people. In 21st century we see more devils than before.

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    this extract is just to clarify the Buddhist perspective of rebirth and I believe that it is too early to pass a judgement on this issue based on the present knowledge of science,

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    “What is it, Nàgasena, that is reborn?”

    “Mind and matter.”

    “Is it this very mind and matter that is reborn?”

    “No, it is not, but by this mind and matter deeds are
    done and because of those deeds another mind and matter
    is reborn; but that mind and matter is not thereby released
    from the results of its previous deeds.”

    “Give me an illustration.”

    “It is like a fire that a man might kindle and, having
    warmed himself, he might leave it burning and go away.
    Then, if that fire were to set light to another man’s field and
    the owner were to seize him and accuse him before the
    king, and he were to say, ‘Your majesty, I did not set this
    man’s field on fire. The fire that I left burning was different
    to that which burnt his field. I am not guilty’. Would he
    deserve punishment?”

    “Indeed, yes, because whatever he might say the
    latter fire resulted from the former one.”

    “Just so, O king, by this mind and matter deeds are
    done and because of those deeds another mind and matter
    is reborn; but that mind and matter is not thereby released
    from the results of its previous deeds.”

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    If Rationalists can understand…..

    “A being is an interaction of mind (nama) and form (rupa). In other words the mind(nama) uses the form (rupa) for its existence (bhava). The period of this Nama-Rupa existence is determined by Kamma.

    When the physical form(rupa) is enfeebled by illness or old age, or damaged by accident, [ or the mind created act of suicide], the mind(nama) unable to make use of the form for its existence any further, departs leaving the physical form (rupa) as a corpse(utuja rupa).

    How does it happen ?

    A thought is a field of energy –series of impulsions.

    A thought contains all the information of a being’s past. It has in its storage of memories beginning with basic primitive instincts, all accumulated wholesome(kusala) kamma and unwholesome (akusala) kamma, and allied memories.

    A thought arises carrying with it all that information, and when it falls away, due to contiguity or proximity cause, the information it carried is transferred to the thought that arises after it. Hence every new thought that arises carries with it the renewed information from the previous thought that fell away giving rise to it-the present thought. Hence the information pertaining to a person is not lost , but is renewed with additional information and passed on from one thought to the other.

    In the case of a dying man, this rising and falling away of thoughts continue, with each rising thought carrying with it the information from the previous thought. This goes on until the moment of death. The last thought that arises in the dying man is the death consciousness (cuti citta). This death consciousness (cuti citta), the last thought has the information the thought immediately before had carried with it, which is the memories beginning from basic primitive instincts to the thought before the arising of the death consciousness (cuti citta). The death consciousness (cuti citta) is the last thought of a being’s life.

    The arising of the death consciousness( cuti citta) is the consequence of the death proximate (maranasanna) kamma., which may be a sign ( kamma nimitta) of a previously performed wholesome(kusala) or unwholesomer(akusala kamma), a good or evil action or a sign of the future birth (gati nimitta); If neither the sign of a good or an evil act of the past( kamma nimitta), or a sign of the future destiny (gati nimitta) arises, the accumulated kamma (katatta) will produce rebirth.

    The death consciousness(cuti citta) the last thought of a dying man, which is the mind(nama) aspect of the being that will be born again.

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    Once again you open your mouth lies and false fabricated information: tell me have you experienced death to these lies. Only information about death and after life should come from God alone not from people

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      “Only information about death and after life should come from God alone”

      Once again you open your mouth lies and false fabricated information: tell me have you or anyone else ever seen god except in dreams and hallucinations?

      This god does not exist in reality – it exists only in the minds of the disillusioned.

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        “tell me have you or anyone else ever seen god”

        Have you ever asked yourself the question whether god really wants us to see him.

        Some have seen,but those are the people who have had near death experience.They have been in accidents and been at deaths door and doctors have thought they are dead but miraculously they have come back to life and doctors have been amazed.I was reading what a doctor was saying that whenever he spoke to them it was always the same identical story of seeing a bright light and they are moving towards it when suddenly it stops and they are back in this world.

        My mum lives in a apartment and the elderly couple who lived in another block near hers asked her who was that old lady in your balcony last night at about midnight and described her.My mum said that it seems like my grandma who had passed away a few days ago and the old couple got very frightened.That may be the reason why god does not want to appear and frighten us.

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          These are hallucinations. If he is real why can’t he appear on TV for debate with non believers..

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            paul,god is not at our level,to appear with us etc.Instead of asking the question “why he does not appear”,ask yourself the question”why should he appear”.What has he got to gain?He will only lose by that because all of us will become saints overnight and he will not be able to find out who among us is the rascals and who are the genuinely good people,don’t you think?

            There are signs he gives like the Ganesh milk drinking episode.

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              ask yourself the question”why should he appear”.

              Because at least 77% of the world population do not think this Christian creator god is real.
              By appearing every now and then on earth and appearing before people, who knows, this 77$ might change their minds.

              This will also make the Christian crusaders / missionaries/ Jehovah’s witnesses task of converting non believers in to Christianity a bit easier too.

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              “By appearing every now and then on earth and appearing before people, who knows, this 77$ might change their minds.”

              What does god gain by them changing their minds.By reading too much into religion which is a man made creation,you are assuming that god wants us to believe in him.What if he doesn’t care whether we belive in him or not.He creates the world,puts us in it and just watches us,thats all.Whether we believe in him or not,what does it matter to him.To read his mind we should know why he created all this.How do we know the answer to that.Religions will keep on talking why he did this and why he did that till the cows come home,but how do we know what they say is the truth.

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            and paul,two people cannot have the same hallucinations.I spoke to them both after my mum told me.First the old lady saw and then called her husband.Sadly they also have passed away now.

            Paul have you ever wondered why we all have to pass off like this.Why can’t we live forever or longer to 200 years.It is because of a allocated life span of maximum 120 years.Who allocated 120 years maximum.All the medical breakthroughs won’t be able to increase it more than that because it is a divine rule.

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              “It is because of a allocated life span of maximum 120 years.Who allocated 120 years maximum .All the medical breakthroughs won’t be able to increase it more than that because it is a divine rule”.
              Here is news for you:
              Jeanne Calment of France lived up-to 122 years and 164 days.
              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanne_Calment

              This shows even HE who makes these divine rules and allocations can make mistakes at times. ;<)

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              There could be minor mistakes made such as what is scribbled on the birth records.At that time literacy was poor and nobody took birth certificates seriously,unlike now.A mistake of 2 years could have been easily made.However when we talk of a 120 year life span it is because astrolegers are unable to peer into the future after that,so we assume life stops at that,give or take a few years.It is an approximate figure and so far what has happenned proves that the astrolegers are right.If you believe in astrology you have to automatically believe in god because we have are all somewhat special in astrology with unique characteristics due to our time of birth and the planatery alighnments set for us specifically.So we become not just a mass set of chemical compounds moulded together by accident as atheists do believe.

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    When we die, our personal story is over in terms of our individual identity. However we yet continue in the shape of the genetic blue prints we leave behind. Modern genetics, though yet in its infancy, renders gives scientific meaning to the concepts of Dharma, karma and rebirth in a very contemporary context.

    Our genes not only make us what we are, but also respond to what we do with ourselves. The are constantly at work, responding to the environment as well. They help us to renew ourselves in parts at every moment of our lives, while yet not hindering the aging process. They shut down at certain loci, open at other loci and mutate in yet others, constantly. Our progeny reflect this changing pattern that was existent at the moment of their conception.

    They become a reflection of what we were at particular points in our lives, when they were conceived. Our Dharma and karma is passed onto them. Our life thus continues through them. We are in them and they reflect our rebirth, even while we are alive. We continue through them and they continue what we were in parts.

    How this extremely intelligent and logical system came about is the mystery. Its logic and intricacy yet defies us. Evolution is the logic that explains how this happens. However it does not explain the underlying principle of continuity inherent in this awesome phenomenon.
    The yet unexplained is what we call ‘God’. The system that responds to Dharma and the environment, to become our karma, was understood by our ancients. We are yet where they were to a large extent, despite our understanding the genetic impacts of Dharma and karma, and the laws of genetic inheritance. The latter aspect, explains why our forebears believed that it takes seven births to dissipate our sins and the effects of our actions are passed on to our progeny.

    Dr.Rajasingham Narendran

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      Congratulations on the only logical and Rational Comment on Shyamon Jayasinghe’s Article.

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      I can follow what you say until this: “The yet unexplained is what we call ‘God’.” What you say after that is a non-sequitur.

      If what remains unexplained is what is known as God, the way out is to keep chipping away at it until we know more. And anything that seeks to explain that has to be coherent, without any internal contradictions.
      The concept of an omnipresent, omniscient God is full of internal contradictions.

      Implying that our ancestors understood something better than the present generation, which with the benefit of centuries of illumination behind it cannot fathom, defies reason and logic.

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        Agnos,

        I said, ” the yet unexplained is what we call ‘ God’ “. I did not say there is a God. What is yet behind our comprehension, will always be the God. This has been so from the time in our evolutionary development, when we started asking questions about the phenenomenon involving us and around us. For me personally, the wondrous universe and its working at both the macro and micro levels, is the God. This includes what we comprehend and what we have yet not.

        Dr.Rajasingham Narendran

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    As the author suggests, the power of religion lies in its ability to exploit ambiguity . Religion does not provide definitive answers to anything. In fact, in many cases, it is not possible to even have a definitive answer. For example, a person cannot die, go to the “afterlife”, and then re-emerge in his prior plane of existence to speak about the afterlife.

    Many people crave so-called “quick fixes” and “quick solutions” to problems or solutions they face. At the very least, these “quick fixes” are more emotionally appealing and easy to comprehend. For example, Quran promises Muslim martyrs 72 virgins in the afterlife. On the surface, such a premise is laughable. Yet, for those who need a reason to justify why they must die on the battlefield (or in a suicide attack), here is the simplest answer. The solution to all of life’s 1001 problems is not to face them, but drop everything, blow yourself up, and wake up in the company of scantily-clad virgins. :)

    There is obviously something very wrong with quick fixes, besides the obvious fact that they seldom work. And that is that, rarely is any phenomenon in the Universe simple. It may look simple, but the simplicity betrays a more complex level of behaviour. You can say the Earth goes around the Sun, but really it is the gravitational attraction between the Earth and sun which causes this… and this gravitational attraction, in turn, exists between all objects in the Universe. Yet there is no satisfactory theory that reconciles gravity with the other fundamental forces, so some would argue whether gravity is a force at all. That means we cannot say for sure why the Earth goes around the Sun. Gravity is not the simple answer to orbital motion that we thought it was.

    In general, easy answers appeal to weak minds. It easy to say the Earth goes around the Sun because a supernatural being (higher power) made it so. If one accepts this explanation, then there is no need to bother with gravity at all, since from this point of view, the Earth would go around the Sun whether or not gravity existed.

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    Dear Dr Rajasingham: Islam gives very simple answer to life and death: life and death are given by God to man as a test to see if he is doing good or bad on in his life time: then when he dies life does not with end. He does not become rotten as people think. Yes his body will be destroyed in soil and yet his soul has eternality : on the day of judgment God will resurrect all human beings/ soul to bring them into book to gauge their good and bad deeds. Why such a day is need:
    Assume people who doing all bad things on earth like murders or crimes they could get away with their influence on earth: like Hitler he killed 6 millions Jews for that matter any dictoator who killed millions may get away on earth by his power and yet, every one feel that justice must be done to him one day. But this physical world is not fitting to give a justice punishment. He may be killed only once on earth for killing of 6 millions yet on that he will be punished accordingly to the gravity of his crime
    Do not you will to meet your parents , your children once again in life ? What is point you see them only 60 years of your life on earth do not you have a wish to see them again. Is is in the next life we could do it

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      Muhammed killed many innocent Jews with the sword. So by your logic, God (if he exists), will not judge Muhammed kindly.

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    Dear Lester. You have childish knowledge about Islam: Tell me how many people Prophet killed? It may a few hundred in all wars but how many millions are killed WW1& WW2 and Crusade: How many millions killed by Buddhists? Shame on you, you do not talk atrocities of Buddhists and yet, you have mouth to open to tell lies about other religions.

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      Not only in wars. He executed captives and took slaves. Let us see what you have written:

      …on the day of judgment God will resurrect all human beings/ soul to bring them into book to gauge their good and bad deeds…Assume people who doing all bad things on earth like murders or crimes… But this physical world is not fitting to give a justice punishment.

      So, if we use your logic, God will punish Muhammed on the Day of Judgement. Is it correct?

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        It may a few hundred in all wars

        What kind of “prophet” kills a few hundred people?

        Religion of peace or comedy? :)

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      Number of people killed by Muslims, in the name of religion, in it relatively short history, is thousand times more than the number of people killed by Buddhists in the name of religion over 2,550 year history.
      Do not ask “How about King Asoka of India”. He was not a Buddhist during his killing rampage.

      As for the league tables against Christians, Muslims, in their western imperialist, colonialist, bloody conquests, must have killed two to three times as many Christians as the Christians killed Muslims in all of the Crusades combined.

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    Thank you Shyamon Jayasinghe. Fine topic and very thought provoking. I do not have an answer to your question but there has been a rebirth of a sort amongst the bloggers here, for you have succeeded in bringing out many serious comments without the rancour and insults that often inhabit this site.

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    God will you for lies and bowing down to mud and stone

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      bowing down to mud and stone, which gives real protection by way of (i.e being part of) shelter is million times better than bowing down to invisible monsters roaming in ignorant’s minds…

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    “Islam gives very simple answer to life and death:”

    Into this Universe, and Why not knowing
    Whence, like Water willi-nilly flowing;
    And out of it, as Wind along the Waste,
    I know not Whither, willy Nilly blowing.(XXIX)

    Waste not your Hour, nor in the vain pursuit
    Of This and That endeavour and dispute*
    Better be jocund with the fruitful Grape
    Than sadden after none, or bitter, Fruit.(LIV)

    You know, my Friends, with what brave a carouse;
    I made a second marriage in my house;
    Divorced old barren Reason from my Bed
    And took Daughter of the Vine to Spouse. (LV)

    Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam.

    (*like this?)

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    Dear Shyamon.

    You have given a good insight to the deduced facts. Fully agreed. It is a bit difficult for people with beliefs to accept. I too believe but not obsessed with any religions. FYI recently I was watching the operation of a backhoe. The operator shifting containers from place to place. He was using his arms and legs to operate. It is his brain that gave the command to his limbs and finally to the equipment. Who is giving the command to his brain? Originates from where? What is the objective behind his actions? May be something to figure out during leisure time.

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      1. The operator (is) shifting containers from place to place.
      2. He was using his arms and legs to operate.
      3. It is his brain that gave the command to his limbs and finally to the equipment.
      4. Who is giving the command to his brain?
      5. Originates from where?
      6. What is the objective behind his actions?

      dear Adrian,

      Pl consider:

      Having said 2, why ask 4?
      Is 1 not the answer to 6?
      Should u not be merely looking up the administrative hierarchy to answer 5?

      For your leisure time meditation:

      Why translate 2 into 3?
      Is this not what makes plausible the other questions?
      What structures/myths have we assimilated to believe that 3 is a more appropriate formulation of 2?

      We speak many languages/ engage with many forms of life. And get into trouble when we cross borders and not notice it.

      What is interesting is that for several millennia we have found it edifying to engage with the riddles born of these border crossings.
      Despite the buddha.

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    A very intelligent article. I thank you! There is no logic in religion, only faith. The logic of a god who is so almighty who produced faulty human beings is illogical. Why would god create humans if they were to question god? All religions say if you do bad, god will send you to the darkest pits of hell where you will burn, suffer, scream… but he loves you? This relationship people have with god is sadomasochistic. In Catholicism, its the process of guilt. Jesus died for our sins because of the sins of adam. But the idea of a god that has, HAD the power to simply forgive adam for the mistake, but to produce another child to suffer that fate. It is cruel. Religion is nothing more fairy tale. Nothing more. Long live logic and science!

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      “The logic of a god who is so almighty who produced faulty human beings is illogical.”

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      Aren’t the faults reducing with each generation?Take for example medical defects,they are becoming less and less with each generation and we are living longer.At one time life expectancy was about 30 as when alexander the great lived.Now it is about 80 in some countries.Very soon parents will be able to have designer babies taking off the bad genes and putting in the good ones.God has created humans with a powerful brain that has the capability to process millions of messages in a second.Ever wondered why he did that?Could have just left us with the same brain as animals.By giving the superior brain we can be left to our own devices with minimal supervision.We ourselves will keep on improving the human race.

      If you are given a car and petrol,do you want someone else to drive you too?Or if you are given a banana,do you want someone to peel it and feed it into your mouth too?You have been given a superior brain to animals and now the rest is in your hands to improve your lot in life.We are talking about millions of years ahead for the human race to continue.What is the hurry for perfection immediately.Eventually it may happen as each generation passes by.God did not create us for one or two generations only,but for thousands.

      In another million years the human race might be unrecognisable,or extinct with another more superior race taking over the planet.It is all in gods hands they say.

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        Shankar, Here We go Again! When will you come back into the real World?

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          sanjay ,what is the real world you are talking about?I,am already in it because the entire solar system including this planet is god and we are all within him.it is not like as if we can assume that god looks like us or something and we can go and meet him somewhere.We are all already within him and he is all around us enveloping us and we are like particles within him.

          That is why many aborigines and indigenous people consider the land as sacred and part and parcel of god because their ancestors have seen things and have passed down those through generations word of mouth.That is why they treat the land so reverently unlike the westerners who want to just exploit it.

          People say that we will destroy the planet with carbon emissions.That will never happen.We will only destroy ourselves and god will just brush us off like getting rid of fleas if we become too much of a irritation.Every year the natural disasters are increasing and we are suffering,not the planet.

          If you are a true bhuddhist as you claim,then you have to believe in god too because it was abundantly clear that Lord bhuddha was not an atheist,whereas you are.

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    Sorry, the comment language is English – CT

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    Shankar, Can you give a single sentence definition of life? It should incorporate all the requirements.

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