30 October, 2020

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Wiggy May Outwit GR-MR & TNA: Tamil Buddhism & Oldness Of Sinhala Lingo Are Beside The Point

By Kumar David

Prof. Kumar David

Justice C.V. Wigneswaran is not laying traps to snare GR-MR or the TNA; that’s not the import of my title. I am suggesting is that wily old Wiggy is calculating that these worthies will snare themselves in traps of their own making, and then his line will pay off. His expectation is that the regime will turn explicitly anti-Tamil and his second calculation is that the TNA is too deeply mired in compromises to extricate itself. Of course, I am attributing motives to him; but in politics it’s ok for analysts to make assumptions about why leaders do this or that and I am within limits of fairness in imputing not unreasonable motives to Wiggy.

This of course is in addition to the fun he must be having watching Field Marshals and Rear Admirals frothing at the mouth. The more they froth the better it plays into his gambit. The old fox’s trick is to say incendiary stuff like: ‘Tamil was the original language of the island, the Sinhala tongue emerged only in the Sixth or Seventh Century AD’; ‘Tamils were the first Buddhists in Lanka and switched to Saivism in early BC’; ‘Dushata Kaamini was a Tamil Buddhist fighting Ellalan a Tamil Saivite’. Stuff like that, even if true, the mere utterance will make ‘hela, jathika, abimane’ blood boil. 

Leaving to one side whether Wiggy is stirring things up for larks or for political gain, what’s the historical and anthropological evidence. The Wiggyy-Fonny adipudi seemed at first a brawl between two aging crack-pots and I thought experts would weigh in and sort out fact from fiction sans ethnic and ideological bias. But all experts have chickened out, which tells us how explosive the topic is. I have over the years done some amateur reading so fools need to drift in where angels are cowardly to tread. I don’t care whether Tamil, Sinhalese or Double-Dutch is older or whether the Tamils or the Sinhalese first sniffed religious opium. What I have learnt is from writings of Lanka’s best historian, Leslie (RALH) Gunawardana and anthropologist Sudharshan Seneviratne. I am also very familiar with Indrapala’s excellent Evolution of Ethnic Identity, portions of K.M. de Silva’s tome, what was readily available of Gananath, and Wikipedia level stuff. Let me blurt out this little learning till an expert picks up the courage to speak.

Mahinda, Wiggy and Vasu are obvious; the older lady may be Mrs Wiggy.
Is the family on Wiggy’s right his two sons, a daughter-in-law and grandkids? Who is Tarzan?

Yes, Tamil is one of the oldest living languages; living means it is still spoken. Chinese, Greek and Tamil may be the oldest. Second, many (most?) Tamils in South India and Lanka were Buddhists in ‘BC times’ before the onward march of Saivism inundated them in ‘AD times’, especially during the apogee of Chola power. There is evidence of widespread practice of Buddhism and Jainism in Southern India and the northern and eastern parts of this island before it was pushed out between the first century BC and the third century AD. The third point is what has got the experts into a funk; they don’t want to be lynched. Sinhala became the lingua franca of southern Lanka during the fifth to sixth centuries AD; that is quite recently. The language of the elite and the clergy prior to Mahavamsa times was Prakrit while a classical version called Pali was used by the learned. In olden times the mass of the people, a few thousand, lived in small tribes and communities and a collective name for their speech is Hela or Elu or Helu; hence the case made by certain pundits for going back to the original Hela stuff has a point. 

Vijeya and his horde were a raiding band who spoke an Indian dialect and were assimilated by the tribes and communities who proliferated across the island. Only a few hundred strong they could not have made large sperm donations. The originals in the north were tribal groups but linguistically Tamilised by South Indian migration from BC times. Genetically, Tamil and Sinhalese folk are to a large extent, decedents of these tribal pools though these days all they want to do is gouge each other’s eyes out. Then the interesting bit follows. The difference between our warring idiots is not race – they are much the same gene pool – it is ethnic, that is language, religion and culture. After the high period of Chola conquest two separate cultures ossified in different portions of the island among racially similar peoples. These are the two mentally retarded communities we confront today; this comes across clearly in Leslie and Indrapala’s writings but they put it politely. However, propensity for conflict does not disappear; ethnicities can hate each other as much as races because friction is about material and social benefits. But hopefully, if the mass mind knows that the two are of racially the same stock in conflict over benefits and politics, visceral hatred of the ‘other’ may diminish.   

Wiggy suspects that the GR-MR government will screw the Muslims first and then turn on the Tamils. He like the rest of us is anticipating tough times ahead for economy and at that time what is more profitable for the regime than the race-card? Many Venerables and State and Cabinet Ministers are merchants of death that GR-MR dare not leash, and that indicates where power lies.  The TNA is too compromised. Its efforts were not unprincipled; it correctly judged that without a deal with the Sinhalese the Tamils will get nowhere. It picked on yahapalana because the UNP is liberal as opposed to the SLPP and SLFP which are of Sinha-Buddhist ethos. The poor sods ended up as empty handed as Chelva and the FP but not quite as stone dead as Prabaharan. It seems unlikely that the TNA can rise again, but true, stranger things have happened.

Moody’s Investor Service last week dropped Lanka’s sovereign rating from B2 to Caa1, a two-tier drop bypassing B3. The agency defines Caa as “speculative, of poor standing and subject to very high credit risk”; that is junk! The corresponding grade in Standard & Poor and Fitch is CCC, CC or C. While rating agencies have responsibility to both lender and debtor the double whammy is harsh; a one tier downgrade was unavoidable since medium-term prospects for the economy are poor. Recent improvements (remittances rising to pre-COVID levels, sharp reduction in imports, fall in 2020 balance of payments deficit from a feared $8 billion to an expected $6 billion deficit, and enhanced activity in the domestic economy) though loudly touted by the Finance Ministry seem to have been dismissed by the agency as short-term gains. Sadly, the outlook is a looming fiscal (budget) deficit, deterioration of asset quality and a depressing employment picture. Not all of Cabraal’s rantings could have deflected a one-tier downgrade. Wiggy reckons that the regime will go after the minorities when troubles multiply. Maybe he reckons ‘Why would a post-20A regime not do just what autocrats do when cornered by a flailing economy?’ 

Wiggy is palpably mischievous and enjoys baiting the ‘hela, jathika, abimane’ fraternity. For proof peruse the hundreds of naïve, goofy and brain-dead comments following any Viggy piece in the Colombo Telegraph. On the serious side I think he calculates that Tamil leadership will go next to the one who walks the talk; he who is most boldly Tamil! Though Tamil militancy was the outcome of Sinhala politics even a militant Viggy will eventually have to cut a deal; there is no other option. The Tamil stand-off has no realisable solution other than cutting a deal with the Sinhalese state. Muslims have always been of this view. Viggy is upper middle-class; a liberal intellectual who speaks and writes the Queen’s English like, well like a judge. He is a Royalist who must have just missed entry to St Thomas by a few marks. But strangely he is also an obscurantist. I don’t know what to make of a man who is a devotee of the late Swami Premananda convicted on multiple counts of murder and rape in India in 1997. See -[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._V._Vigneswaran  and  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swami_Premananda_(guru)]

Late Note: Though the infection rate is now declining the 1000+ that tested positive for COVID in the Gampaha District signal a ‘community outbreak’ described as spread by mechanisms that cannot be traced to contact with a ‘recently-returned person’ or foreign visitor. This is alarming; community outbreaks are very difficult to control; no one knows where this sneaky bug is hiding. If GR and team impose production and industry disrupting curfews again, damage to the economy will be devastating and follow hard on Moody’s downgrade of our credit rating to junk. In the wake of previous mutilation this will act as a geometric multiplier. The possible closure of BIA will further deflate business confidence. If the economy goes into a tailspin the regime will need some drama to distract attention: Dump 20A? Blame minorities for something? Discover ever more welcome crimes of the “previous regime”? The second possibility relates to today’s column.

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  • 23
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    The following 3 picks of mine are for a reason:
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    * Wiggy suspects that the GR-MR government will screw the Muslims first and then turn on the Tamils.
    _ Didn’t the Sinhalese go screwing the Tamils first, with the able connivance of the Muslims, and then turn against them!
    * without a deal with the Sinhalese the Tamils will get nowhere.
    _VP screwed up a chance Tamils had for a deal with the Sinhalese; he was not realistic.
    * Tamil militancy was the outcome of Sinhala politics.
    _ The day, if ever, the Sinhalese realize that it was their avaricious and confrontational politics that has been taking the country down, will be the day the redemption of Sri Lanka truly begins.

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      Nathan

      ” VP screwed up a chance Tamils had for a deal with the Sinhalese; he was not realistic.”

      Since early 1900 each and every Tamil politician failed miserably in his attempts to achieve equal rights for Tamils. Liberation group leaders are no exception. You name a Tamil, be a realist,theorist, idealist pragmatist or any other ists, all failed. So , being a person knows well of Tamils history, how could you say CVV is not realistic. The whole truth is that the Sinhalese are very clever than Tamil politicians. Accept it though it hurts Tamils. Unless Tamils convince the ordinary Sinhalese voters specially politicised Buddhist monks armed personnel and Sinhala media personnel, Tamils future is bleak. It is huge task but Tamils must do it. Don’t you realise that the Sinhalese in power are working towards assimilation now. This has to be stopped and Tamils should act fast.

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        Have I stated anywhere in my comment that CVW is not realistic … .

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          Sorry for the mistake I made. It reminds me that I am old and feeble now !

          As far as I know VP had superior knowledge and talent in the armed struggle , which you may agree. His mistake was relying on one person instead of a team of experts for advice on local and international political issues. Failures on the part of Anton Balasingam that lead to the downfall of VP and LTTE.

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        RMN,
        You are talking equal rights to Tamils. Please tell us:
        • What is it that the Sinhalayo are enjoying that the other communities are not enjoying because they are not Sinhala?
        • What is it that the minorities do not enjoy because they are the minority which the majority enjoys because they are the majority?
        • What is legally, constitutionally and legislatively given to the majority that is not given to the minorities?
        • What is it that the Sinhala Buddhists are enjoying that the other communities are not enjoying because they are not Sinhala Buddhists?

        “Since early 1900 each and every Tamil politician failed miserably in his attempts to achieve equal rights for Tamils.“

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          Eagle Eye

          Each and every person in the CT circle knows that you are an inexorable person. So why should I waste my precious time in replying to you.

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        RMN,
        Sinhalayo gave equal status to Demalu (aka Tamils) when they gave citizenship to Dravidians brought by colonial rulers and abandoned in Sinhale.
        But Malabar Vellala Tamils do not give equal rights and equal status to low caste Tamils (Dalits) in Yapanaya. They treat Dalit Tamils as sub-humans and violate their human rights. Without talking about equal rights that Tamils already have eliminate discrimination and oppression of low caste Tamils.
        Also take measures to remove the distinction ‘Ceylon Tamils and Indian Tamils’. All Tamils are of Indian origin.

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      How many “deals” did the Tamils have with the Sinhalese?. All the deals were broken unilaterally by the Sinhalese.

  • 14
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    Wiggy is unnecessarily provoking Sinhala-buddhist maniacs and providing an easy diversion for a government troubled on the Covid and economic fronts. He is too old to channel the emotions he creates just so that he can have some relevance even after securing the least amount of votes to be MP. Tamils need a breathing space to recover though they must keep their rights arguments at the forefront, ensure accountability and an explanation as to missing persons. Tamils are confident that they simply walked across the Palk Strait in the distant past and did not come as vagabonds like the lion fornicating mother’s son Vijaya did. These arguments are of little use. The fact is that Tamils live in the North and the East and do have rights to these parts. That does matter. Any constitution without recognising that fact has no validity as far as Tamils are concerned.

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      Tamil leaders and Tamils and can talk too much of Tamils. These talks are bullshitted also because they don’t have a country in this world. 78 million Tamils in India, no country for them. They all are talking their language is the oldest language in the world. They will say one day Tamils are first born a human being.

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      Cicero,
      “The fact is that Tamils live in the North and the East and do have rights to these parts.”

      It is also a fact that Sinhalayo lived in North and East before Demala people who are descendants of Dravidians brought from Hindusthan by Portuguese to work in tobacco plantations occupied Sinhala land after colonial rulers left. Sinhala Kingdoms Anuradhapura and Polonnaruwa existed in North East of Sinhale. So please vacate land belong to Sinhalayo and hand over to rightful owners.

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        If you say it is a fact EE with your sharp vision, it must be a fact. But, that was long ago. But, the present reality is different. Tamils like the Salagama and the Beraya who came from South India lived in the South but have now become Sinhala. Tamils ruled in Kandy. If you go to think of it, there were more Tamils in the South of Sri Lanka at one stage than Sinhala. But, that is no longer so. We have to think of present reality.

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          Cicero

          Tamils ruled in Kandy? May be in your dreams.

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          Cicero,
          Present reality is more than 50% of Demalu from North and East live in the South amongst Sinhalayo. More and more Dalits are leaving Yapanaya to escape oppression by Vellala Tamils.
          Sinhalayo have no problem with Demalu living in North and East as long as they do not claim North and East is their ‘Traditional Homeland’ forgetting the fact that they are descendants of Dravida coolies brought by Portuguese to work in their tobacco plantations.

          “We have to think of present reality.”

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            WHERE IS THE LINE BETWEEN YOUR SINHALAYO AND DEMALU ?
            :
            You the bitch s son create it for your own survival. So long you cough for RACISM, you would be held as gods. I hate to see you the kind of idiots being born into our sinhala race.

            Nothing other than DEMALU, seems to be coming out of your cesspit. How could you achieve your goals at Peradeniya ? If a gang of tamil batchmates did not rape you, your thoughts and minds would have been so different. I know how much mental stress you go through at SRILANKAN universities. Our babarians would never see it right even if their lovely ones would have been hurt to the manner, an innocient boy got “eternally sick” being attacked by his fellow batchas at Jaywaradhana pura, as reported lately. If I were their, I would have caught the criminals and would have used my all last cent to get them caught going by prevailing laws.

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    “Wiggy is palpably mischievous and enjoys baiting the ‘hela, jathika, abimane’ fraternity. For proof peruse the hundreds of naïve, goofy and brain-dead comments following any Viggy piece in the Colombo Telegraph.”
    Incidentally “the hundreds of naïve, goofy and brain-dead comments following any Viggy piece in the Colombo Telegraph” include matching proportions of Tamil and Sinhala extremist stands.
    So is he also baiting the “pure, ancient, and glorious” Tamil wallahs?
    *
    “He is a Royalist who must have just missed entry to St Thomas by a few marks.”
    Whose leg is AKD pulling?
    *
    Being a devotee of the late multiple murder and rape convict Premananda is daft enough but appealing to Modi for the release of Premananda’s accomplices and denying it only to be exposed by a photocopy of the text by him? Does it not make him also a bare-faced liar?
    *
    Seriousness blends awkwardly with frivolity in KD’s analysis of race and language, which is best ignored.

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    PolIce had questioned CVW on a complaint by a Buddhist priest that the statement Tamils are the original people of Sri Lanka will bring disharmony among the people. If telling the truth would bring disharmony, then what about the lies that are being churned out such as Sinhalese are the original people of Srilanka descended from a lion and that they were chosen by Buddha to inherit the land to preserve Buddhism in its pristine glory, and that Buddhism is the first religion to be practiced. If Sinhala racists cannot stomach the truth, then it is they who should be punished without harassing Tamils who are making legitimate claim.

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      What legitimate claim? What about the Malaysian Tamils? What about the Singapore Tamils? What about the Canadian Tamils? What about the British Tamils? All are illegitimate Tamils. Their Origin Tamil Nadu. There is no country for Tamils in this world. This is the gospel truth in this world

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        Nperera, from what end you are droing these nonsence ? Perera is also not real srilankens, their start is born in SL after 1505 or so. So you dont have right to attack other enthnic groups. Only Veddas could express their thoughts to the manner aborignes people do it in Australia.
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        Like or not, srilanken tamils are more close to sinhala race than to Tamil nadu tamils. Not me but publications prove it. Their eating patterns, the manner getting caught by vicious politicians, and being submissive to their heads for no reasons are all similar to eachother groups. So, dont try to stand out being based of lies. Blatant lies.

        You the backlickers of JATHIWADAYA should finally get the facts right – else, your generations would do lot more harm to the srilanken nation.

        None of us cant be NON-KALLATHONIES.. we are all coming from India.

        Please check the publications on this- HISTORIANS have interpreted it in a plain langague.

        Let s hope our totally stupid srilankens (tamils, sinhala and muslims and others) would realize this sooner than later.

        Spit on facing upward- is what YOU MORONS have been doing ? In the civil war, they killed own people (srilankens).

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      Dr. Gnana Sankaralingam,
      “then what about the lies that are being churned out such as Sinhalese are the original people of Srilanka”

      I do not know how to convince this guy that Sinhalayo and Vedda Eththo are the native people in Sinhale and Demala (aka Tamils) people who live in Sinhale are descendants of:
      1. Dravida invaders who were allowed to stay in Sinhale by Sinhala Kings;
      2. Dravida coolies brought by colonial rulers to work in their plantations;
      3. Dravidians who entered illegally and settled down in Sinhale.
      Native Sinhalayo gave citizenship to these people so that they can live in this paradise island, get free education and free health services instead of sending them back to their ancestral homeland across Palk Strait where they will be treated as ‘Untouchables’.

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      But is CVW telling the truth?
      I defend one’s right to tell a lie, and of course that to expose the lie.
      That is freedom of speech.

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    Forget the monkey culture of Tamiza. They have fostered a society that was being run by a murderer like the sun god, and in my research, I don’t think there was anyone more similar than Pablo Escobar. This is the so-called intelligentsia that this monkey David belongs to.

    So they make up their fake history and DNA. everything is false and fake. and a few Singhalese like GATM or
    Sinhala Man – pannini Edirisinghe NRIC #$%%^&

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      Thanks, a14455
      .
      This is a funny country that tolerates liars (not you!).
      .
      I’ve been up for 30 hours, exploring, but not commenting. I want to say something about my interactions with Prof. Leslie Gunewardena, although he didn’t teach me.
      .
      The liar? Rev. Christopher Balraj, Headmaster of STC, Bandarawela who told the Police HQI in Bandarawela, that I’d been distributing a leaflet promoting “racial hatred”. I had made the complaint against him for not allowing me to subsequently enter the school (where I’m certified to have been born). The story is here:
      .
      https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/challenging-three-cheating-thomian-pharisees-and-not-doing-it-from-behind/
      .
      My photograph is there. See how dark I am. How could I be of predominantly Aryan descent? Mixed, most certainly.
      .
      If you are sincere and consistent, dear a14455, I don’t mind what you say. To counter racism, we sometimes have to bend over backwards. About June 2019, a younger Sinhalese Old Boy sent us anti-Islamic stuff on WhatsApp. Police complaint by me. Yes, the inquiring Inspector was told by me that the guy had to be jailed for a month at least. He’s now my friend.
      .
      We must save Sri Lanka!

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        Dear SM,

        dont worry about your skin colour Mr. As I have already added somewhere, there are enough publications that explain about the sinhala origin and its closeness to srialnken tamils. DNA research have revealed that srilanken tamils and sinhalese are even more related to each other than sinhalese with indian tamils. Those who brand them being sinhalese would get upset hearing this, and would add anti-lelagemalli comments as usual, but they should learn tolerating the facts. Myths can govern a society so long majority of them would not have the factful info regarding anything. Black is beautiful as I am used to say to my american colleagues. I have a very good friend (Prof. in Bio medical Engineering); he is very positive about his skin colour and he has achieved a lot in his reasearch projects.

        I am not interested in races and religions to the manner average srilankens are used to discuss it today. This was my nature also in my teeny years. As for me, what matters is the manner how human beings perceive things. So even if your skin is dark, your heart cant be that darker as shown by your comments.
        Those spread racial views, also on public stage incl.

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        Sinhala_Man,
        “We must save Sri Lanka!”

        Certainly! We have to save Sri Lanka from Malabar Demala politicians who have not given up separatism and Muslim fundamentalists who want to create a Caliphate in Sri Lanka.

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          We must save srilanken from RACISTs like Eagle Eye and Wiggie. Wiggie is abusing his mouth while entire nation is burning. The need of the hour is good politicians to use their wording. Hateful words can only widen the wounds of both sides.

          If that COLOMBO lad/transgirl Pasqual was here, we should equally be scared of him.

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          Dear EE,
          .
          You sound to worry about ” we must save srilanka”:
          :
          When looking at you, I think not ONLY srilanka, but also we have to want DOWN UNDER PEOPLE to save their land from EAGLE eye ( you are said to be living in DOWN UNDER).

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            Let me correct it again.

            Not only srilanka but AUSTRALIA to worry so long Eagle Eye or the like are living there.

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          Eagle Brain Dead Blind Eye

          “We have to save Sri Lanka from”

          The Clan, Saffron Brigade, the armed forces, Sinhala/Buddhist noisy minority, the state functionaries, soma, Dayan, you, Ravi Perera, EE, …. Ella, …..

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      a14455

      “They have fostered a society that was being run by a murderer like the sun god, and in my research, I don’t think there was anyone more similar than Pablo Escobar.”

      You may be right, even if you forget the similarities between Pol Pot and Gota. Both are supposed to be Buddhists who had committed genocide. Pol Pot was part of South East Asian Fascist tendencies Gota is heading towards finding his lost kingdom of Buddhists.

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      a14455 / October 11, 2020

      we have sent SCPasqual to a Kindergarten.
      :
      Why not you make effort to do the same ? From what you add… even my dogs could notice that you have not the least knowledge about what ve been bubbling.

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    Hilarious!

    90% of world Tamils are governed by Hindi speakers, 4% by Sinhala speakers, 3% by Malay speakers and the remaining 3% mostly by English speakers. That says it all.

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      Your comment is only very hilarious. Only 40% or 45% the most of India is Hindi speaking . What is considered Hindi or Hindi speaking , is in reality many languages or dialects which are closely related to Hindi. If you take proper Hindi speakers it will be around 15% the most. The so called Hindi belt is the most underdeveloped and poverty stricken part of India and they may be able to muster a large number of MPS in the parliament but do not govern any non Hindi speaking people. Go and repeat this to any person living in Kerala, Thamizh Nadu, Andhra, Gujarat , West Bengal or Maharashra, that Hindi speakers are ruling them and see the reaction. Modi is a Gujarati not a native Hindi speaker. It is the non Hindi speaking western and southern parts of India that largely contributed to India’s economic miracle and not the so called Hindi belt. As for Malaysia , Thamizh living there are recent immigrants who arrived during the British rule, Trying to compare them to the plight of the native Eezham Thamizh living under Chingkalla racist yoke indeed hilarious. The Thamizh in west have econimincally thrived and are even very recent migrants and do not care who rules these lands , as they are new immigrants who have prospered . You are indeed one hilarious piece of Gadam

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        When one’s world view is constrained by what one has been exposed to in an island where lies are peddled as the truth, worse still as the ultimate truth, one should not be surprised to see posts such as the one above from GATAM.

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        Pandi Thanbi,

        “The Thamizh in west have econimically thrived and are even very recent migrants and do not care who rules these lands , as they are new immigrants who have prospered”

        The fact is most Tamils went to west as refugees. Most of them still live either as refugees or doing menial jobs. Most of the south Asians who went as professionals are doing well in their respective professional fields.

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          Professional frog in a well is still a frog who knows only the well well and nothing else.

          On the other hand, most professionals only know their respective professional field, and people (again not specific to Tamils) who go through the ordeal of fleeing their country become street smart.

          Even in your well view, the refugees who do menial jobs don’t send their women to Arabs to do oldest profession in the word in the name of house maid.

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            Hey appa,

            “Even in your well view, the refugees who do menial jobs don’t send their women to Arabs to do oldest profession in the word in the name of house maid”

            Big part of the number from Lankawe includes you demala. Infact a bigger number goes from your toilet nadu.

            Besides when it comes to the oldest profession, your women have no market due to your looks (Rajiv Killer… remember)

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              RP,

              You are still in a well believing that sending ones’ women to do oldest profession is okay, again if this is your women no body can help it.

              You have already added your children to the oldest profession as well for westerners, and partly in the name of Sinhala Buddhism; forcing the children into supposed priesthood and in reality a (often homo ) sexual feast for these bald headed boners.

              No wonder as to why all these bored, plump westerners flock to southern beaches.

              Toilet Nadu or not, they take care of their women and children, and not sell them to oldest profession.

              Arabs tolerate your women folk for satisfying their urges does augur ill for your looks theory.

              The fact remains stubborn.

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          Rotten Pear( Perera) , descended from a low caste Thamizh South Indian immigrant, now speaking Chingkallam. Yes lots of Thamizh who migrated to the west were refugees , so are many Chingkallams , who falsely claimed refugee status in the west, stating that they are Thamizh , or part Thamizh escaping Chinghkalla racist persecution , others stated the Chingkalla racist state was persecuting them , as they were JVP or because they were helping their Thamizh friends or relatives. Lots of so called recently turned Chingkallam like you , especially from the once Thamizh North west coast , were passing themselves as Thamizh . As they are still fluent and familiar with the Thamizh language. However once they become residents of these lands , these fake Thamizh become anti Thamizh. However more than half the Thamizh immgrants to the west , especially to the English speaking lands like the UK, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand are professional immigrants . Many applied either from the island or from overseas and obtained migration , as they did not want to live or return to your genocidal hell hole to be a third rate in their own land. Most of the Thamizh migrants who migrated to non English speaking western lands are refugees. Refugees or professional migrants , especially the ones who migrated to the English speaking western countries have done very well, especially the second generation.

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            Pandi Kutti thanbi,

            I have lived and travelled to the west through my professional work and besides many of my batch mates are stationed in London, new York and other western capitals. There are no sinhalayas who went to west as refugees besides no sihnalaya would ever want to identify as a Tamil.. As far as I am concerned, my family is from South and have actively taken part of settling the sinhalayas in the North (North of weli oya). During the British period some of my relations played an important part in the revival of buddhism (Though part of my family is also Catholic). An overwhelming majority of the Tamils who went to Toronto and London were uneducated non english speaking peasants. You as a refugee of Toronto know this.

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              “There are no sinhalayas who went to west as refugees besides no sihnalaya would ever want to identify as a Tamil.. “

              You do not disappoint any one , even your Sinhala, that you are frog in a Sinhala well. The speciality is of course that you are professional frog.

              ” An overwhelming majority of the Tamils who went to Toronto and London were uneducated non english speaking peasants. You as a refugee of Toronto know this.”

              Even Chinese cannot remove your mind colonisation.

              It is not what you know, it is how you adopt to a given circumstances that is beyond reasonable control.

              I know that you will be dead once you are out of your Sinhala professional well.

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              Rotten Pear( Perera) that has fallen from a low caste immigrant South Indian origin Thamizh tree, please do not post falsehoods. I doubt that you have ever left the island , leave alone travelled to the west . Please google and read. More than half the people who were arriving on the shores of Australia and many other western nations and claiming asylum were Sinhalese and Muslims. “During the British period some of my relatives played an important part of in the revival of Buddhism” . Yes we have heard all these fairy tales , especially from many recently Sinhalised , immigrant South Indian low castes like you. What makes you think I am a Thambi? I may be a Thangachchi or even a Transvestites/Transsexual or a very intelligent Piglet but certainly not a rotten pear that fell from an important low caste South Indian origin tree.

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              RAVI PERERA
              The Sinhala Speaking Proud Demela

              “There are no sinhalayas who went to west as refugees besides no sihnalaya would ever want to identify as a Tamil..”

              I am sorry, did you knock each and every door and took down details of each household information? If ever you did that you are a stupid, if you didn’t do it you are a dumbass who wants us to believe everything you type here.

              “During the British period some of my relations played an important part in the revival of buddhism (Though part of my family is also Catholic). “

              So your family is the root cause of destroying Buddhism and amity in this land. Are you related to the public racist Anagarika Homeless Dharmapala? No wonder why this land has not recovered from the public racist’s roar.

              “An overwhelming majority of the Tamils who went to Toronto and London were uneducated non english speaking peasants. “

              Yet they are doing well I am told, in her birthday honours list the queen has honoured 7 Tamil doctors.

              “You as a refugee of Toronto know this.”

              By the way I am told you have three licensed Tamil funeral directors providing embalming services. Which one is your employer? You must have had good hands on experience in the north.

              Carry on.

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          You (Sinhalese) attacked the unarmed non-violent Tamils living outside the North and East looted all their belongings, burnt and killed them, destroyed their houses and properties, and overnight they were reduced to the state of penniless refugees. But you could not do one thing. That was to remove their indomitable spirits and their work ethics (work is worship). Within a matter of thirty years they have become one of the most powerful Diaspora in the world. The Tamils have become experts in everything good as well as bad, jack of all trades. The Tamil Diaspora (as refugees) did anything and everything in the West to earn money and establish themselves. Today there are more than a million Sri Lankan Tamils (Diaspora) around the Western World from North America to Europe to Australia/New Zealand doing extremely well. You made them beggars and refugees but it only took them a very short time to bounce back and become millionaires in our host land. All their children (new generation) are attending the top class universities in the World. Their children have achieved what they could have never achieved in Sri Lanka. Most of them are top most professionals in their chosen field, whether it is medicine, science, engineering, IT technology or even space science. They have become an important partner in the development and the progress of their host countries.

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            “You (Sinhalese) attacked the unarmed non-violent Tamils living outside the North and East looted all their belongings, burnt and killed them”
            Not only outside North and East, this includes inside North and well.

            You fellows like to talk of Tamil Diaspora as being powerful. I say.. Jewish Diaspora and the Indian Diaspora are powerful, you buggers are not. Bulk of your people exist by doing meanial jobs.

            “You made them beggars and refugees but it only took them a very short time to bounce back and become millionaires in our host land”

            This is untrue, most of the fellows are still refugees.

            The educated migrants from South Asia do extremly well when they go to the west. There are many of my batchmates who work as lecturers in UK and other Western Countries. Most Sinhalas who have migrated to the west are educated professionasl. You had a great businessman called Raj Rajaratnam -poor fellow was sent to jail for being too honest.
            Most of the present day educated sinhalays are from Village schools or if they are from a colombo school then they are from either Ananad or Nalanda.
            Of the 253 sinhala scientists at NASA an overwhelming majority are from village schools.

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              “The educated migrants from South Asia do extremly well when they go to the west.”

              You only know to the level that your education could open your eyes and make you do searching.

              Again, South Asian education, even at the university level, is still inferior in making you (or for that anyone through that type of system) do searching.

              Only few of naturally inclined for searching would survive the system because they would be too challenging to the so called professors. Few who comes out of the system would have tolerated and put up with those nonsense system and professors.

              You do not have clue about number of Tamils who left at their prime time of their education, came to western countries, continued in their respective filed of study or professional education whilst holding a job ( in your words menial jobs), and now thriving in their chosen professional field.

              See even the opportunities you say your field afforded you cannot make you do searching.

              “Of the 253 sinhala scientists at NASA an overwhelming majority are from village schools.”

              My guess will not be too off.

              Yes, lower marks (in the name of standardisation) for entering into university and of course when the number is high enough (as the Chinese say), very few could be developed into proper scientists with docility.

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            Continued from above…
            When the Jews were thrown out from their land and humiliated and killed in tens of thousands, they migrated to the West as refugees leaving only a very few (less than 10% of the population back). Today they are not only one of the richest nations all over the world but they are also manipulating and controlling the Western politics and the World politics.

            Today, with the money and vote bank, the Tamil Diaspora is able to influence and lobby the western politics/politicians. They have only become second to the Jews, who were driven out by Hitler. They have become rich and strong, just like the Jewish Diaspora, now capable of financing election campaigns in the West. Within the next few decades, the World Tamils (with money and education) who are well organized and established and progressing extremely well will be as powerful as the Jews or even overtake them in manipulating and controlling not only the Western leaders/politics but also the Sri Lankan politics.

            A few brain dead buffoons like RP cannot understand the purpose of the Tamil Diaspora.

            BTW, of the 253 Sinhala ‘scientists’ at NASA, 90% of them are engaged in menial jobs (gardeners and helpers) and most of your rocket scientists (more than a million) are working in Arabia.

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                RAVI PERERA
                The Sinhala Speaking Proud Demela

                Whats the matter with you?

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        Pandi Kutti, I strongly suspect this Gatam is a southern Muslim , trying to provoke and create trouble , with his lying posts. Just read all his posts , constantly runs the Tamils down but never a bad word against the Muslims , whom he always tries to portray in a very favourable light and as the allies of the Sinhalese. Most Sinhalese, especially the extremist racist ones hate the Muslims far more than the Tamils , whom they know in their heart are the same as them, however this Gatam does the opposite. I have long suspected him of being a backstabbing southern Muslim. They are very good at that.

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          You may have point as regards the identity and raison d’etre of GATAM!

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          Rohan

          You may be right!
          Even I Smelled Watalappam when he started flipping his hat.

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    Having requested a Tamil historian to trace the roots as to which community were the oldest Buddhists in this now forsaken cursed land my mate came back and stated vehemently that it was the Dravidians who then became Tamils.
    a.
    One cannot forget that those running the shows at the Kataramaga and other temples and only after the 1956 racial riots were got of rid and Yakko kapumathayas were dropped in forcibly and till to date their only desire is to make Kalla illicit monies and these places of hallowed worship have since from overnight have become dens of corruption and vice.
    b.
    One’s imagination can run riot, you name the vile activities and it takes place in the open.?
    The uncouth unsavoury criminally tainted rajapuka’s have become paragons of virtue over the last few decades and their hoofmarks have tainted the soil pf many such institutions.
    c
    Therefore I can proudly emphasise that Buddhism was brought in by the Dravidian Saiva samiyam Tamils and these petty-minded criminally tainted with all the corrupt malpractices which have brought a disgraceful disgust and money is the language spoken at these venerated then holy places.
    c.

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    What Wingeshwaran theory tells me is that Sinhala Buddhists at the the tip of the island close to India spoke Tamil like Tamils in Negombo speak Sinhala today. And also it goes counter to the insistence of Sampanthan that “Tamils must be considered a distinct ethnic entity
    .


    Soma

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      soma

      Naturally you are confused.
      Your fellow descendants of Sinhala/Buddist Kallathonie converts are suffering from IDENTITY CRISIS particularly those who arrived or converted to Anagarika’s political religion recently suffer most.

      Forget C V Wiggy, as far as you accept yourself (and your ancestor) as someone who saw the benefit of being a practitioner of Sinhala/Buddhism is understandable. Your DNA betrays you.

      There is no point arguing otherwise.

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      Soma, not only the Sinhalese in Munnakkarai speak Tamil, but also the entire Sinhalese in the northwestern coastal belt spoke Tamils. They were Tamil Catholics brought by Portuguese from Tamil Nadu. When Dutch took over, these Catholics were persecuted, and in order to get protection from Kandyan king, these Tamils declared themselves as Sinhalese but continued to speak Tamil. It is only after the turn of the 20th century, the Catholic church began the process of educating them in Sinhala and made them full fledged Sinhalese. Both Buddhism and Jainism were practiced by Tamils and other south Indians at one stage. Therefore Buddhism as exclusive property of Sinhalese cannot be accepted. There are several Hindu temples lying buried around Anuradhapura which shows that at one stage Sinhalese practiced Hinduism before converting to Buddhists.

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        Shhhh Gnana, telling the truth can be detrimental to one’s health. Gota could have you tied to a tree for this!

        I bet the Presidential Task Force on Archeology (or whatever it is called) will see to it that those buried Hindu temples will be “disappeared” or renovated to hide the truth!

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        Dr. Gnana Sankaralingam
        you say, “There are several Hindu temples lying buried around Anuradhapura which shows that at one stage Sinhalese practiced Hinduism before converting to Buddhists.”
        This is an utter lie.
        Sinhalese in ancient Lanka never practiced Hinduism and there are no Hindu kovils buried in Anuradhapura. The truth is, when South Indian invaders captured some parts of our country, they destroyed Buddhist temples or built Hindu Kovils over ancient Buddhist temples.
        There is no proof that South Indian Tamils follow Buddhism. If they did, they should be Jains, definitely not Buddhists.

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      Soma,
      The southern Sri Lanka was inhabited by simple folk of South Indian origin. They were originally Tamil or Malayalam speaking Hindus as can be attested by the ‘Ge’ or house names of their descendants today (Sinhala Buddhists/Catholics) in South Sri Lanka.
      Let me give you a very few examples out of many,
      Arasa Marakkalage – House of the chief boat owner Arasa = Royal – Marakalam = Boat or Ship (Tamil Name), Arukatti Patabendige – House of the warrior Arukatti = Sharp Knife or Sword (Tamil Name), Ilandarige House of the youngster Ilandari = Young/Virile Man (Tamil Name), Kankanamage House of the supervisor Kankani = Supervisor (Tamil Name), Kinnarage House of the mat weaver Kinnarar = Weaver (Sangam Tamil), Kovilge House of the temple keeper Kovil= Temple (Tamil Name), Mandadiralage – House of the fishing captain Mandadi = Ship or a Captain fishing vessel (Tamil Name), Marumakage House of the son-in-law Marumakan = Son in law (Tamil Name), Panikkige House of the worker Panikkan – ancient Tamil name for Elephant minder or the guy who gives Betel leaves and condiments to the King, Pennkutti Patabendige House of the female warrior Pennkutti = Young woman/ youngest daughter (Malayali origin), Sembu Kuttige House belonging to the clan of Sembu, or of the metal pot maker Sempu= Pot made out of Brass or Copper (Tamil name),
      Continued…

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        Continued from above…
        Sellaperumage – House belongining to the clan of Sella Perumal (Tamil name), Tantrige House of the shaman Thanthiri -Malayala origin for the Temple priest, Thevaraperumage – House of the singer of sacred songs in temples (sacred songs are known as Thevaram in Tamil). Even the Tamils of Tamil Nadu lost this tradition of naming after the sacred Tamil hymns of Thevram sung by sacred Saivite Saints but the Sinhalese (former Tamils) and Lankan Tamils still continue the tradition, Tuppakige House of the gun soldier (Tuppaki is an Indian Tamil (dialect) term for Gun in Sinhalese it is Tuvakuva), Vaduge House of the northerner, for Nayaka soldiers Vadugar = Mercenary Soldiers of Telegu origin (In jaffna the Vadugars are low caste).
        I can list another 100 more names. Just as the descendants of Tamils who embraced Buddhism in 246 B.C. claim they are Arya Sinhalese, the descendants of Tamils of the western and southern coast after adopting Sinhala as their mother tongue are claiming to be the descendants of Duttu Gemunu. In Sri Lanka any person who adopts Sinhala as mother tongue ipso facto is a descendant of Duttu Geumunu. LOL!

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          LC
          Right. All the Sinhalese having Tamil names. Why don’t you Tamils have names like those? It is because you are recent immigrants?

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            Kanthilatha
            Tell me your ‘GE’ name or your family name and I’ll tell you from which TN tribal area (Dalit) your ancestors came to SL and got converted into Sinhala-Buddhists?

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        Lanka Canuck
        I guess you are talking about Sinhalese Karawa people, for authentic Sinhalese Govigama people’s “ge” names are always connected with the village where their ancestors were born. Those “ge” names, which are unique to Sinhalese Govigama people, cannot be seen in South India.
        What you have not noticed in your own examples is that, all South Indian names are connected with occupations.
        Despite the popular belief that Sinhala Karawa people are descendants of South India, there are evidences that it is not true.
        For example; Sinhala Karawa people have their own banners exclusive to their families. Do South Indians have such banners? I don’t think so.
        The iconography and symbols of those banners have included the sun, moon, stars, elephants, fish, ships, lotuses, swords, pearls, etc.
        Your examples of South Indian names have no connection with the banners of Sinhalese Karawa people.
        My research was half done, otherwise I could have confirmed here and now that they are most probably the descendants of now defunct Naga tribe. Sinhalese Naga Tribe has no connection with South Indian Naga people, who worship snakes and cobras. Sinhalese Naga tribe were Buddhists who engaged in ancient sea trade, ship building and everything else connected with the sea.

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          Champa,
          Regarding Karava you can read everything from their own website, they themselves are claiming to be South Indians.
          http://karava.org/

          Regarding Nagas, there is no Sinhala Nagas or Tamil Nagas.
          The Nagas (“Naga” literally means “snake” or “serpent” in Sanskrit, Pali and Tamil) were believed to be ancient people who once inhabited the Indian sub-continent (including Sri Lanka). They were also known as one of the original inhabitants of this sub-continent. The Sanskrit text (Mahabharata epic) begins with the history of Nagas. Nagas are also mentioned in the Ramayana and Rig Veda. The Jaffna Peninsula was mentioned in Tamil literature (the twin epics of ancient Tamils Silappatikaram and Manimekalai) as Naga Nadu and in the Pali literature (Deepavamsa and Mahavamsa) as Nagadipa.
          Based on accounts of the Nagas in the Pali chronicles (Dipavamsa/Mahavamsa) and the Tamil Buddhist epic Manimekalai, historian & etymologist Rev. S. Gnanapragasar in his manuscript chapter “Ceylon originally a land of Dravidians” claimed that the people of Northern Ceylon, called Nagas in the chronicles, were Tamils. He argued that the island of Ceylon as well as the language spoken there were known in ancient times as ilam and that the name of the language was later corrupted to Elu. He argued further that no trace of any language other than Tamil is found in India till the arrival of the Indo-Aryans.
          Continued…

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            Continued from above…
            The respected Indian Jurist, economist, Politican, and social reformer, who inspired the Dalit Buddhist Movement Dr. B.R. Ambedkar says the Nagas and the Dravidians were the same. He says, “Dravidians as Nagas occupied not merely southern India but that they occupied the whole of India, South as well as North before the Indo-Aryan arrival”. He further says, what is important here is that ‘Dravida’ is the Sanskritized form of the word ‘Tamil’. The original word ‘Tamil’, when imported into Sanskrit, became ‘Damilla’ and later Damilla became Dravida and Tamil was the language of the Nagas throughout India.
            (Refer: https://www.forwardpress.in/2017/09/dr-ambedkar-on-asuras/#_edn8)

            In the CEYLON HISTORICAL QUARTERLY, Vol. I, No. 3, pp. 172-173, we are told the ‘Nagas for certain, living along a belt of country extending from Kelaniya as far as Nagadipa must have migrated from South India long before Vijaya’.

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              Champa,
              The Nagas had been living in Sri Lanka and South India very much before the arrival of Vijay, that is even before 5 BC. Buddhism was introduced only in 3 BC, a few Nagas may have converted to Buddhism.

              Regarding Govigama names, Govigama caste itself is of recent origin created during Kandyan kingdom. These names are much older.

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                LC
                Are you sure that “Govigama caste itself is of recent origin created during Kandyan kingdom.”
                You may have the Radhala elite in mind.

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                  SJ
                  I am talking about the Govigama caste and not the Radhala elite.

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              Someone said something is not proof evidence.

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              LC,

              I have read this when you mentioned this in response to some other article in CT.

              What Dr. B.R. Ambedkar said was actually against his own (self) interest and anyone like him nowadays would have concealed that,

              The direct and first implication is that only Tamils can claim the longest antiquity and indigenity to the whole territory of the South Asian subcontinent, including the Island of Ilankai.

              At that time, however, that posed a challenge to Dr. B.R. Ambedkar ‘s intractably daunting task of peacefully forging and keeping the State of India.

              In 2019, when I was searching about Pakistan, I accidentally bumped into a history text (I did not note it down, still regret it) which claimed that it was Dravidians who lived there long before the present population, and some of the languages still bear their Dravidian roots in areas as far as gilgit baltistan.

              So, I think Dr. B.R. Ambedkar, true to his intellectual honesty and statesmanship, had actually told the truth as it is.

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            LC

            What are the evidence Rev Ganapragasha had got, to say that Naga people were Tamils.

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              At the least, we still have the worship of Cobra as our religious belief and culture.

              Then we have religious establishments, such as Puthoor Naga Thambiran, Naga Poosani Amman (although you want to steal it), and numerous village level kovils for serpent (Cobra) god.

              Then our gods cherish having Cobra around the neck, bed for sleeping etc.

              Then of course, as people, we cherish taking our gods for nice, slow stroll on all sorts of big serpentine vehicles on our shoulders within kovils and on cakaṭai and chariots outside perimeter of kovils, and of course occasionally on streets.

              In our Tamil astrological culture (based on vaakiya panchangam, meaning almanac by mouth), Cobra plays very big part in bringing fortune (or for that matter misfortune, called naga or sarpa thosam).

              Someone, I think it was Eagle Eye, said indigenity, identity etc. must be obvious.

              We see it, feel it, breath it, awe it, cherish it, worship it, the Cobra, the Naga and serpentine god. etc.

              Do I need to say more?

              Why go to Rev Ganapragashar?

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              I forgot to add about Tamils’ belief about the significance of cobra or serpentine presence in dreams.

              Seeing white Cobra in dreams is considered to be exceptionally good for one’s life.

              Similarly, seeing snake bonding is extremely good for health and life.

              Sensing snake biting means bringing in fortune.

              Seeing snake chasing or coiling around legs is extremely bad for life.

              In reality, there is one action that is believed to bring in extremely good for life.

              When snakes are bonding, if one manages to put a white cloth in their twist (which of course very dangerous), and afterwards possession of the washed (in milk followed by water) cloth is suppose be exteremly good for life.

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          Champa,
          Here is a seriously researched book, banners and all, about the Karawe people. If you really want to know.

          http://noolaham.net/project/38/3704/3704.pdf

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            OC,
            Looks like Champa is not doing a proper research or it’s a one-sided (biased) research with a preconceived mindset.
            Karava itself is the Tamil name Kara-var meaning coastal people. Kara means coast in Tamil and var denotes people. The Tamil Karavar caste in Jaffna is called the Karayar (fisher-folk). Dura-var (Durava), Para-var (Bharathar) and Mukku-var are also coastal inhabitants of Sri Lanka.
            The Karava (coastal people) were not only fisher-folk but they were also engaged in several other activities. They are known as very good soldiers /warriors. A good example is Sarath Fonseka from the South and Velupillai Prabakaran from the North, both belong to the Karavar caste. FYI, Nalin de Silva is also from the Karava caste.

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            I see that it’s oc who has put the “noolham” comment on. I clicked on what appeared below from google and got three pages 422 to 423 on –
            .
            https://anthrosource.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1525/aa.1962.64.2.02a00450
            .
            but why should I read all that? Why is it that half the country seems to comment on topics dealing with “unverifiables” and ignore what is essential for our survival? Like this:
            .
            https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/why-corona-why-us-what-wrong-did-we-do-to-you/
            .
            I’m wondering whether to subject myself to the tedium of placing a lot of “supposed facts” that I’ve collected around the Kumar David concerns on this site. Perhaps at the very bottom, later today.
            .
            Homo sapiens are the strangest of creatures.
            .

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              S.M,
              Most of the book I linked to is based on verified evidence. It’s very interesting in itself. Do you know there are Karawe families around Negombo who still use Tamil at home?

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      Eagle Dimwit Blind Eye

      Thanks for keeping it brief.

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      Kumar David,
      If you need a view from an expert in this field go to Youtube and search ‘history unlimited’. There you can find Prof. Raj Somadeva’s response to Judge Wigneshwaran.

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        Mahindapala, I have old you several times that Raj Somadeva is considered a joker by his peers, who is playing to Sinhala gallery. Ask him what happened to the bones and artifacts taken by Kelaniya archaeology department in 2016 from cist burial site in Devalapola near Minuwangoda. Ask him why has he gone silent about the cave discovered in Medagama near Moneragala where Tamil Brahmi stone inscription and bones of ancient humans found. When urn burial sites which are hall marks of Dravidian civilization and potsherds similar to those found in Tamil Nadu were discovered in several sites in Sri Lanka, how can he contradict the statement of CVW that Tamils lived in the island prior to advent of Sinhala race.

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    C.W.Vigneswaran knows that the Rajapaksas, Sarath Fonseka, Wimal Weerawansa and even Sajith Premadasa have no knowledge about Sri Lanka’s history. These people and even the CID do not know the ancient tribes of Sri Lanka. I think all these people have to learn Sri Lanka’s history from C.W.Vigneswaran. That is why C.W.Vigneswaran wants to ridicule all these people as clowns in the eyes of the international community.

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      AYATHURAY RAJASINGAM,
      Sinhala rulers made a blunder by not asking Demala people to pass a test on History of Sinhale and basic knowledge in Sinhala before giving citizenship by Registration.

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        Mahindapala could you let me know what are the questions in the Sinhale history test.
        Are these the things to be asked :
        1. Did a male lion copulate with female human to produce a progeny called Sinhalese.
        2. How many times did Buddha make flying visit to Sri Lanka in thin air.
        3. Does the foot print in Adam’s peak is that of Buddha though it resembles a giant.
        4. Does the tooth relic in Dalada Maligawa belongs to Buddha though it is too big.
        5. Are Vijaya and his gang, the first group of Kallathonis to embark on the island,
        6. Why did Sinhala kings pay kappan to Pandyan kings as subservience.

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        Eagle Eye,

        we have sent SCPasqual to a Kindergarten: we understand your pathological problems. You repeat it as no others. There are whole lot of publications that sinhalese and srilankeen tamils are closely related than indian tamils with srilanken tamils. Like or not, if you have some sanity, you need to learn repsecting the facts. Even after you complete your montisori lessions, you will get it.
        :
        Why not you make effort to start it with a kindergarten ? From what you add… even my dogs could notice that you have not the least knowledge about what ve been bubbling. These dogs would behave much better than our average SINHALESE down there.

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        Sinhala Rulers made not a single blunder, but they have been making only blunders. See how they behave today ? Your demented head cant get all these, but time will show you the truths. Wait and see, today people should raise the question ” are they sitting on their heads”.

        Bitch s sons voted for 18A (even if 18A was totally the opposite of the contents of 19A).
        .
        Bitchs sons voted for 19 A
        .
        Bitchs sons will vote for 20A

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        EE
        The following is believed to be your history
        The written history of Sri Lanka over 2500 years:
        Total number of kings = 194
        Sinhala kings = 175
        Tamil kings = 19
        Considering only the Sinhala kings,
        60 became king by murdering the former king
        53 became king by murdering a brother
        30 military commanders became king by murdering the reigning king and taking over
        5 sons murdered their father to become king
        1 queen killed her husband the king to take over
        1 doorman killed the king and became king
        We have such a painful and shameful history that has not improved with time. So why are we acting so surprised?

        And you expect the Demala people to learn this shameful history? LOL!

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          I don’t think EE is in the habit replying to impertinent questions ???

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            Old Codger,

            EE would never widen his eyes – perhaps pathological reasons would not allow him an inch of move, he would remain unturn not being able to see it at all.
            even if loads of facts would be just infront of him. He is taught to behave so. How many in his age group would do so in god punished srilanka ?
            I wonder how AUSTRALIANs get on with him. No doubt, his moves within that society may be like URULAWA’s moves (උරුලෑවා ගිය තැන හරිම අශෝබනයි )
            .
            Have you guys noticed his comments failed the following idiosyncratic terms of his nature ?

            Vellala caste

            Demalu

            Prabakaran

            And his most favourite term ” NATIVE SINHALAYO”.
            .
            And his beloved GODs – Rajapakshe Mafia Men and their Manthra.

            This man may be another PASQUAL, that is hired by RAJAKSHE MEDIA INTELLIGENCE

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    Kumar David,
    K.Indrapala, the first Professor of History of Jaffna University has written in his doctoral dissertation that the Malabaris who migrated from S. India decided to remain as permanent settlers only in the 10th century. Apparently he had to leave the University in a hurry because his conclusion was rejected by the politically hostile forces that proclaimed ‘Tamils were the original settlers from the dawn of time’.

    You have picked information from historians and anthropologists who betrayed Sinhalayo.

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      Malabaris in the tenth century were Tamils. It would take the 100 years war that came just later to form the Malayali language and perhaps make the Chera Tamils in Sri Lanka decide to stay on.

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      EE
      Indrapala wrote what he wrote based on information at the time,
      but did a fuller job near the turn of the century, which is worth studying.
      Indrapala’s reference is to the peninsular Tamils. Tamils lived here since much earlier and across the island.
      BTW
      How come that thevearams of the Pallava period (7-8th Century) refer to Trincomalee and Thirikethsvaram (Mannar) as Saivaite locations.

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        SJ,
        Dravidians lived in Sinhale because they invaded this country from 3rd century B.C. 52 times and ruled Northern part of the country for short periods. Although King Gamini Abhaya (aka Dutugemunu) removed warlord Elara he did not chase away the people Elara brought and settled in Sinhale. Yet, they were ‘Para’ people in Sinhale.
        For his survival Prof. Indrapala took a ‘U Turn’ from the position he held and started fabricating history to please separatists. Tamil historians have got lost in the wilderness by trying to find historical evidences to support the claim ‘Traditional Homeland’ of separatist Vellala politicians.

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          EE
          But then the official legend is that the descendants of the lion are themselves invaders.

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            SJ,
            There is much similarity between Eagle and some Bible-toting Christians. Both believe only the convenient parts of their respective books.

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    If it wasn’t so sad, it would be laughable – all the comments this way and that way, each one trying to prove the other wrong, each trying to stake a claim as to the original settlers. Just because we were born to a certain race? If those people siding the Tamil claim were born into a Sinhala family, they would be arguing from the other side. Same for the Sinhalese. Its time we stopped this childish bickering. The leaders fanning communal flames are scumbags who are behind all the misery this country has seen. These self-serving politicians will pay dearly for their sins.We as a people should not allow ourselves to get sucked in. Easier said than done I know. But from my understanding, when we hate another race, the chances are we will be born into that very race!

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      That’s why Wiggy will be reborn as a Sinhala Buddhist and Gnanasara a Jaffna Tamil.

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      Well said Sandy.
      Nice one Stanley, but do you wish the second coming of likes of these two as members of any race?

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      Sandy Dee

      What you should do is deport (in fact ethnically cleanse) all those noisy descendants of kallathonies from South India and their brethren converts to Sinhala/Buddhism back to their ancestral homeland, starting the exodus with Gota, Fonseka, Sarath Weerasekera, Dinesh, Wimal, …………… Nalin, Gunadasa Amarasekara, ….. Channa Masala Jayasumana, Elle, Gnana, and fellow members of Saffron Brigade, single handed Kamal Gunaratne, Bogollagama’s wife, ….. ………………… Anuradha Yahampath, Basil, ….. Shavendra, ………. SJ, Sivaji Lingam, Muralee, Angajan, …. Kajendran, Mavai Senathirajah, ……… Dayan, ….. throat slitting Brigadier Priyanka, ……

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        NV,
        .
        Nalin De Silva is a born racist. He keeps the sinhala race miles above the earth. Thinking and comparing them with that of Israel people. Jathiwadaya genes are branded in his genetics. His followers would not think twice. Just because the mathematician to have worked for some publications, him to be held as a god – is being done by many in Slanka. No matter the size of the damage being done by racial public remarks of the racist.
        :
        Just because he faced some problems with his TEAM colleagues during his period as a phd student, he started hating entire Europe. He once said, western medicine should be banned, but yet today, he is treated by western doctors for his heart problems and diabetes.. Metformin is not an invention of SRILANKEN GODA WEDAKAM. Ironically, His daughter and others got educated in the west. I think this man is isolated within his family to the manner OUR eagle eye is obviously placed in. Facts about the racist is not known to many. But myths added by him go viral…. that is srilanka.

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          “Nalin De Silva is a born racist.”
          NOT TRUE.
          He was a founder member of the Nava Samsamaja Party with people like Vickremabahu, Vasudeva, Kumar David and quite a few left intellectuals in the Trotskyist tradition.
          How he changed still puzzles me.

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            SJ
            Are you talking about the professor who ,in June 2011 ,got
            the information regarding presence of Arsenic in water claiming that the cause of Rajarata chronic kidney disease from the god “Natha”. and current ambassador to Myanmar????.
            A FRAUD.

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              U
              I am talking about an academic at Peradeniya who was a convinced Trotskyist even into the 1990s. One of the 7 PhDs among the founders of the NSSP.
              His transformation was rather rapid.
              My objection was to calling hm a ‘born racist’.
              *
              In fact there can be no born any ideologist.

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            SJ,
            .
            may well be, but see where WASIDEWA and other leftists are today ? But listen to him, and what has to say about SO CALLED 2500 year old heritage ?
            .
            You guys may adulate him for few publications, but I dont kneel down before such men, because they seem to have grasphed the little. Most of all, his ASENIC god stories reveal lot more about his REAL PROFILE.

            I dont say invisible forces could not work on human spiritual existence- but what is going on in EUROPE, not even 5-7% go after superstition, but in srilanka it is like over 90%. Knowing that human body has its own self healing processes, but through physical activties, one can improve the strength. That is what some of the GURUS may be practising in SL and India. However, I was surprised by the videos of DEEGODA KUMARA- and his healing methods. I will let one of my friends aware about him.

            Btw Nalin De Silva or the like men have one thing in common – which is sinhala genetics, though I am born into a sinhala family, I never thought about my race. Also in my childhood, I stood against our elders closely observing the manner they treated house visiting laundry men (Dobi). Why they offered them a lower chair to sit etc…

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            SJ
            Your comment ‘NOT TRUE’ is not true.
            Nalin De Silva was a Math/Physics Professor who has succeeded only in CHEAP polemics. After obtaining one’s PhD what matters is not only brains, but also peer recognition. In university circles, he was known as ‘Nalin the Pissa’.
            As one of the founder members of Vasudeva`s and Wickramabahu’s Trotskyite NSSP (for a very short period), Nalin De Silva was one of the Sinhala-Buddhists who endorsed the right of Tamils for self-determination.
            However, he took a hundred and eighty degree turn by joining hands with Gunadasa Amerasekara and started writing utter rubbish about something he calls the `Jathika Chintahnaya`. This made him VERY FAMOUS among Sinhala-Buddhist ultra-nationalists and racists, the recognition he always wanted but never got from university circles.
            Since he is good at writing glamorized articles, as a pseudo-historian/scholar (charlatan), he has managed to convince a few confused and misguided individuals (mostly Sinhala-Buddhists) and made them his faithful followers who believe that he is a GREAT Scientist, Philosopher, Historian and an expert analyst/scholar.

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              LM & LC
              All I said was that Nalin was not a “BORN racist”.
              Prove me wrong if you can.
              *
              BTW,
              a good friend of mine, another mathematician of Nalin’s vintage, a moderate with Sinhala national sentiments, recounted that he was called a racist by Nalin around 1990 for criticizing the LTTE.
              Draw your own conclusions.
              *
              Always think before you jump the gun.

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                SJ
                You are making me laugh with your naïve response. Nobody in this world is a born racist. Racists are not born, they are made. If you have any reading difficulties or unable to comprehend what is said, I can understand, but otherwise I suggest you read what I have said a few more times and then think before you jump the gun, LOL!

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            But the truth is Mr Wickramabahu is not comparable to Wasidewa or others. Wasidewa is on his head today, he does not know the huge harm he has been doing to the nation. Being an early octagenarian, he has no right to mislead the nation any more. The kind of men are the curse to this land really.
            :
            Wickramabahu is unique and his thinking is unique to him. He would not be surrendered by PERKS being offered ot them. Mahinda Rajapakshe – Mafia BOSS of all times, has been successful taming anyone and everyone by offering PERKS to them. He never care much that the funds belong to people.

            Artists, Buddhist Monks and others were cheated as nothing can reverse them. Today they are made to the groups of people, that scratch their ears whenver they are invited to any gathering.:::::::
            His SINIBOLA distribution has brainwashed the society and those who watch his low acts – go viral, since onlookers would not care much, they would nodd their heads to the manner MERCY cows at Kelaniya Temple would do.

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              “He would not be surrendered by PERKS being offered to them.”
              How do you explain his (VBK’s) landing in the laps of Ranil’s UNP?

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              LM,
              Actually, he is of South Indian descent. Not even Sinhalese (whatever that may be)

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      Sandy One,
      .
      Srilankens are not taught to see it right from the begining on. I have no idea about you, guys, form the begining on, I heard ( i lived there at least 2 decades) only about dislikes towards the minorities. This I heard from various walks of people, relgiious leaders and all you consider as so called ” educated”: It is just a training that should be obligatory.

      So how can they do it it at once ?
      :
      Australians and north europeans (Norway and Finnland) introduce it well today from their kindergarten on. The conesequences are already seen in Melbourne and several other cities, most of them dont care much about the races in that part of the world. But we should not rely on australian statistics alone – because their politics is very unique to them and some sort of pro-racism also to white europeans. #
      .
      This can take many more years but we have to start it … in countries like SRILANKA would never be able to turn their way to realize this so long RACISTS buddist fake monks are placed above the law. We need to crush it let alone today, if we want to expect a better future for our youth.

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    When our history says King Asoka of India sent valuable gifts including a sword, sacred water of river Ganges for king Tissa’s second coronation, with the massage that he converted to Buddhism & offered his honorary title of Devanampiya to king Tissa CVW says this name is Tamil and he is a Tamil king. One time he said Tissa means dissava or direction in Tamil so he is Tamil but Sinhalese tradition is name children according to their birth time. Tissa name gets him because he was born at Tissa nakatha or time. Ones Tamils told there was NO word”Sinhala” mentioned anywhere in the world, but when they were shown in numerous occasions it is mentioned they say Sinhala language was not there at that time. So CVW & other Tamils say people in the past in SL were Tamils (who spoke Pali) who were identified in outside world as Sihalas?

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      Rubbish Theesan or Tissan was a common Thamizh name during this era. This has been amply proven by the Keeladhi excavations in Thamizh Nadu. Moreover he is the son of King Mootha Sivan , which means the great or venerated Lord Siva in pure Thamizh. There were no such people called Chingkallams at that time. They only evolved much later from southern Thamizh/Dravidian tribes who converted to Buddhism and corrupted their local Thamizh dialect Elu with Pali/Prakrit that arrived with Buddhism. Old Chingkallam or Hela , that is a Elu( local Thamizh dialect) mixed with Prakrit was very close to its Thamizh mother in pronuncation than modern Chingkallam , that has now been deliberately Sanskritised, The original people after the Vedda in the island would have been Dravidians from South India and ancient spillover from prehistoric times and they would have spoken a semi or proto Thamizh dialect

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        Just think, all those young Tamil children born in the West being brainwashed by angry parents like you. In their late teens they discover UTHR and start digging further. Oh dear, Appa was a lying bastard after all. No wonder he wouldn’t let me marry Jenny from the supermarket (IQ 14). It had to be Bhavani BA(Madras) failed but ‘fair, 5’1″, having 6 figure income, holding good post’ (in Spearmint Rhino pole dancing club).

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          What is your IQ Stanley? Zero

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          Stanley,

          Normally, once you leave the country- srilanka and live out of the country, you learn to see it beyond. SO long you live in srilanka, your thoughts and minds are tied to the model of Rajaakshes. Meaning they are made to believe that they are a nation similar to Israels… in the reality, srilanka is another hungry nation to the world. If that would be louded as much as they could, through SIVURU WEARING PINGUTHTHARAYAS, people would not stand againt even blatant lies.

          But those who spent few years only would not see it right. There are exceptions such as today President in the country, he has not changed a lot even if he spent 15 long years in the US. FM Sarth F had met him at the begining of his stay in the US, there he had been almost like the syrian refugee living in europe today. Doing all the odd job to survive the life in expensive america. Such personaltiites should better understand the grievances of the people. But GOTABAYA has not proved it within his first year which will be next month.
          He is a power hungry pissuballa of the nation, that seeks to ruin this nation to the very same manner Sadam Hussine, Gadafi or the like minded dictators did it.

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        “Theesan or Tissan was a common Thamizh name during this era. This has been amply proven by the Keeladhi excavations in Thamizh Nadu. “
        What else did you dig out of Kiizhadi?
        DNA fibs?
        Long text with the names of Theesan, Mooththa Sivan, Bandaranayake, Senanayake and who else?

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          SJ Thattha please read
          The Hindu Net Desk JUNE 13, 2017 15:38 IST
          UPDATED: JUNE 13, 2017 16:34 IST
          SHARE ARTICLE 9PRINTA A A
          In 2013-14, the Archaeological Survey of India (ASI) carried out explorations in 293 sites along the Vaigai river valley in Theni, Dindigul, Madurai, Sivaganga and Ramanathapuram districts. Keezhadi in Sivaganga district was chosen for excavation and artefacts unearthed by the ASI in the second phase of the excavation at Pallichanthai Thidal of Keezhadi pointed to an ancient civilisation that thrived on the banks of the Vaigai.
          Carbon dating of charcoal found at the Keezhadi site in February 2017 established that the settlement there belonged to 200 BC. The excavations thus proved that urban civilisation had existed in Tamil Nadu since the Sangam age.
          The excavation at Keezhadi has been carried out at two localities in the farm. “Both the places have yielded different items and we presume they represent a social hierarchy,” said Amarnath who was until recently working at the site. The bigger of the two locations with more number of trenches is said to be a settlement of educated rich people, as many jewellery, fine game stones, semi-precious stones and a dozen Tamil Brahmi inscriptions have been found. Beads of agate, Carnelian and quartz indicate that they had trade link with countries like Rome.

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            The excavation at Keezhadi has been carried out at two localities in the farm. “Both the places have yielded different items and we presume they represent a social hierarchy,” said Amarnath who was until recently working at the site. The bigger of the two locations with more number of trenches is said to be a settlement of educated rich people, as many jewellery, fine game stones, semi-precious stones and a dozen Tamil Brahmi inscriptions have been found. Beads of agate, Carnelian and quartz indicate that they had trade link with countries like Rome. The Tamil Brahmi letters found on pottery is all names of individuals such as, Thisan, Aadhan and Udhiran, which are typical of Sangam Age Tamil names.
            The second locality has more of graffiti on pottery, bone tools and iron weapons. the fish symbol which was both an art and as a ‘sign representing a clan, was also unearthed. Red-and-black pottery, groove tiles used for laying roofs and the typical flat brick measuring 38 centimetres are the other indications that the city unearthed belongs to the Sangam Age.

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          SJ
          The excavation at Keezhadi, undertaken by the Archaeological Survey of India, unearthed antiquities that may provide crucial evidence to understanding the missing links of the Iron Age [12th century BCE to 6th century BCE] to the Early Historic Period [6th century BCE to 4th century BCE] and subsequent developments during the Tamil Sangam period from 4th century BCE. Interestingly, Keeladi has not revealed any signs of religious worship in all five rounds. The materials found in Keezhadi provide undeniable evidence of secular culture in South India. This is in odds with the BJP government’s Hindutva agenda and they took measures to ensure further research is not done in these sites. Very similar to our Sinhala-Buddhist agenda.

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            Read my response.
            Refer to the specific comment that I objected to.
            Then protest.
            *
            I do not want to waste time here on claims about the Sangam period etc.
            But for secularism, Tamils had primitive systems of worship in the Sangam period. K Kailasapathi’s comparative study of Tamil heroic poetry with Greek heroic poetry is highly educational.
            *
            Secularism is relevant only in a context of religious contest.

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              Regarding your specific comment, I think PK has given you the right answer.
              BTW, what makes you think that I’m protesting? Are you having difficulty in reading?

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    “The difference between our warring idiots is not race – they are much the same gene pool – it is ethnic, that is language, religion and culture.”
    \
    “The friction is about material and social benefits.”
    \
    That settles it then. Couldn’t agree more with the professor, looking jaunty with bow tie and all.
    \
    What really intrigues me is the group picture: the unlikely fraternizing of three politicians supposedly fighting for conflicting ideologies/classes/tribes. With due respect to the other fine human beings in the picture, I’d like to offer my observations on The Three Musketeers:
    \
    Mahinda: The father of the lumpenization Sri Lanka’s politics and culture. He’s so superstitious, he never leaves home without putting on some junk on all his extremities.
    \
    Vasu: He is the nadir of Sri Lanka’s old left. Now for several years his contribution to the revolution has been regularly attending the bourgeois talk shop to receive the monthly fat cheque.
    \
    Wiggy: A master at driving people mad by his belligerence and divisive talk that makes no sense. He’s such a throwback to medieval fundamentalism that he has never heard of the ‘Me Too Movement’ and goes on worshiping the dead child rapist and murderer Premananda.

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    Wiggy has the same right as any other writers about their understanding of the history and his point is very clear. He tells who came first is immaterial and any one who governs the country should respect all the citizens as equals. Almost all the Buddhist Sinhala thinks it is their country. So, for Tamils and Muslims it is their country. Since majority of the people are Buddhists, the whole population are not Buddhists. Why not a single Prime Minister or President of this country not from the high ranking Buddhist Monk. Mahinda never had a Buddhist Priest status,SWRD never had, JRJ never had, Gotabaya never had? Why? Buddhism is about humanity beyond race, country, language or religion. Politics is nothing to do with religion. It is about governance and its principles such Rule of law, Justice, welfare, economy etc. Unfortunately, the governance in Srilanka started with Buddhist fundamentalism which is against to the Buddhism. Why you all waste time on focusing Wiggy’s theory instead the real threat to the country, people, welfare and Buddhism?

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      Ajith
      “He tells who came first is immaterial” but goes on to make bogus claims!

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        How do you know bogus claim? Almost every Political and even Religious leaders made bogus claims for nearly seven decades. Did you stop them?

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          A
          Any claim that knowingly runs against historical and archaeological evidence and scientific reasoning is bogus.
          Any falsehood relevant to our context, I have questioned, starting with Mahavansa.
          BTW
          Do you really believe the claims by CVW, let alone his tales about the rapist killer Premananda?
          I would have thought that you were too intelligent to fall for them.

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            SJ,
            Can you tell me what Archeological Evidence and scientific reasons said about origin of human race in this island?
            I have never read about CVW’s claim about Premananda or any one else. That is his personal believe. There are thousands of rapist killers in the world. There are hundreds of rapist killers in Srilanka. Do you bother about them? Have you heard Kirishanthi rapist killers?

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              It is CVW that is making claims without a shred of credible historical or archaeological evidence.
              CVW’s defence of Premananda (which he has not yet given up on) is a disgrace. Also, he lied about his message to Modi.
              *
              In your pathetic defence of CVW, you pounce on me to suggest that I endorse crimes.
              Sorry Ajith, I am a little too old for this trick. Try someone who still sucks his thumb, and you may, with luck, succeed.

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            SJ
            Let’s not confuse Social science with Natural science. Unlike natural science (physics, mathematics, etc.), when it comes to social science (History, Archaeology, Etymology, etc.), since there is no solid evidence (empirical/observational) to prove the events that took place in the ancient past, history/archaeology is subject to interpretations mostly based on hypothetical assumptions which would change from historian to historian (multiple interpretations of a single event due to differing schools of thought). In ancient history/archaeology (there is always a grey zone between fact and fiction), conclusions made on logical assumptions based on unobserved facts can lead to falsehood (misinterpretation). That is why natural science academics/scholars should not engage in interpreting history/etymology. Prof. N.K. (Nira) Wickramasinghe (trained historian) from the History and Political Science Department of Colombo University once said, Sri Lanka is one of the few countries in which mainstream newspapers carried pieces on history by those (pseudo-scholars and charlatans) without any credentials or formal training in the disciplines of history and historiography.
            History can also be biased (one-sided), as Sir Winston Churchill said, “History is written by the victors”. Interpretations can also differ (distorted) to please the authorities or a particular audience (analyzed through many different lenses such as political, racial, etc.). Historians can also completely change their views (constantly being rewritten) based on new discoveries/evidence.

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        That is why we repeat that THESE PAPPAS know nothing about what they have been bubbling.
        :
        Just imagine how his MASSINA is uttering, I mean that DRIED PUMPKIN – Wasidewa.
        :
        Just imagine how OXFORD curse – GLP is doing his job
        .
        Just imagine, one another SHIT EATING dog of Sabaragamuwa University the manner how he makes every effort to defend 10%. ?
        .
        These men are women are all have lot more common with those FLIES being found on heaps of excrements.

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      But Ajith,
      .
      if Nelsen Madela behaved himself the way Wiggie would react today, what could have been the consequence to that folk ?

      Wiggie is one of the few politicians who could do the job, being ralated to WASIDEWA another dog, but close to RACISTS politicians (Mahinda Rajakashe et al): He could do lot more if he really wanted to., But WIGGIE yet today abuses his mouth… as if a MARADANA street monger would do. What has he ever achieved for the benefit of the masses in the North?

      If we stand against MR et al, why not we stand against WIGGIE or the like STUPID politicians… why not we stand agaist ALI SABRY ?

      Minoritarian politicians should offer themselves and be POLITICAL FOOT BALLS of vicious majoritarian politicians (MR et al).

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        leelagemalli,
        Nelson Mandela was a lifetime liberation fighter who sacrificed whole of his life for liberation of Black people who are oppressed by a minority white oppressive regime. So, you cannot compare him with Wiggy who was brought to politics at his old age.
        Whether Wiggies claim that Tamils are origins of Sri Lanka right or wrong it has open the eyes of racists to think whether it could be the case. So far, no one produced counter argument or explanation how Sinhala originated in this country. There is no clear cut answer about origins and what is their language before Buddhism came in.
        No one is against to Mahinda or Gota or JRJ as a human being. As an opportunistic politician, as a President you expect them to be serve the country, not to the family or Buddist Fundamentalists. That is why we are against them. Wiggie is not telling to kill Sinhalese or take the rights or denied the rights of the Sinhalese.

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          Ajith
          A minor correction.
          Mandela stopped being the fighter that he was on the eve of his release and compromised with imperialism and White racism to the detriment of the Black people.

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    Thank you David.

    If Hon CJ wanted to make the point “us too” are Buddishts once before then it was within his right to say so only if he thinks this will help the damage done by the FP/ITAK/TULF/TNA Ratha Pottu Mafia historically ever since inception and represent Jaffna mans image/interest for a brighter united tomorrow we can welcome??

    Then again he started with talking about Tamil being the oldest language in his inaugural speech not sure if this serves the peoples who elected him? the response he received was very specific to the point from Hon SF to make it clear to the masses where the elected GOSL stood with regard to this kind of nonsense.

    Anyone knows if any elected in North and East are giving progress updates daily/monthly as to their job functions and milestones to meet the needs of the people and their daily life and their future community economical planning??? any websites that is doing this kindly share.

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    Prof Kumar David

    C V Vickneswaran never mixed his personal belief with his politics. I haven’t heard him saying a word in praising Swami Premananda in public political platforms. What was your intention in bringing Premananda here, a person irrelevant to the subject of your article, except to throw mud on CVV. You say CVV is an obscurantist. Can you show any evidence ? Remember he is far better than your leftist leaders who gave up their policies and leftist slogans and surrendered to capitalist Srimavo.

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    Continued………….

    I am not a follower of Swami P and do not hold a brief for P or CVV but made a Google search and found several contradicting views on the verdict of this case. Former Law Minister and well respected lawyer Ram Jethmalani has appeared for the defendants in this case and he too has pointed out several inaccuracies in the conduct of this case by the prosecution. He was finding fault on the judges too after the verdict was given. .Intimidation and applying force on witnesses by the Police are revealed by a witness named Aruljothi that appears in the website justice for Premananda.org I urge Prof K D to peruse this site to arrive at a balanced view.

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    King Vaha’s Vallipuram Gold plate
    Vaha is the Sinhala word for (Pali) Vasabha & Sanskrit Vrushabha which means cow. King Vaha had issued several inscriptions not only in North but South & East as well. Till today we call cow vaha as in Vahu pattiya for calf.
    This Sigiri poet’s name is Sival (fox)
    I write the 8th century poem here.
    ජිවිතොට්හි අරකෙළ සිවලැහ ගී jivethot hi arakela sivalaha gee
    අහස පොකණ විය Ahasa pokana viya
    මඩදොරක කිළියකට madadoraka kiliyakata
    තැන් නැත්තෙන් මන තා than naththen mana tha
    නො ගත බෙයන්ද්හි නට බිත්ත no gatha beyandhi nata bittha
    Jivethot – divithota ( name of a villege), arakela -? Aarachchi ( officer) Sivala ha( Sival’s), gee (poem) ( Sival means fox
    Ahasa pokana viya, —- Sky became a pond
    mada-doraka = mandapa dvara = door, kiliya = room
    than naththen =as there is no room, mana= mind , tha = you
    no gatha = not takan, beyand hi = rock’s, nata= natabun ruins, biththa = biththiya= wall
    I am Sival an officer from divithota. ( this is my poem)
    Sky became a pond. As there is no room for changing (for bathing) didn’t you take rock’s ruined wall( for that)
    There are ponds In Anuradhapura to bathe for royals. There are changing rooms as well. Poet has seen this and when he climbed the Sigiriya rock & looking down he sees the sky as a pond.

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      Hello Latha the lying Chingkalla racist now has become Kanthilatha but still posting the same racist lies and rubbish

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      “King Vaha’s Vallipuram Gold plate
      Vaha is the Sinhala word for (Pali) Vasabha & Sanskrit Vrushabha which means cow.”

      Whether the name in the gold plate is Vaha or something else is not definite.

      ‘Vaha’ as Sinhala word does appear very, very farfetched, at the least it is not in current usage.

      Even if true, there is a question of whether a King (a supposedly Sinhala King) would have liked or allowed to be called cow. I doubt it.

      However, the same (i.e. Vaha, again which is read Vaha and not definite, and could be poetic Tamil form of or close to the Tamil word Vaahai – வாகை) has different meaning in Tamil. It means victorious.

      The Sinhalese might now run change the reading of King’s name. Ha Ha Ha !!!.

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        King Vaha had issued several inscriptions you only know about one. Go & find out other ones and their reference in Mahavansha. Tamil Vaahai can’t fall from nowhere suddenly and issue inscriptions every where in the Island. Your doubts or whether you can’t read or not is not important to anybody.

        So what do you think of the meanings of Vasabha/ Vrushabha. Those are all victorious?

        Vaha is not in current usage? Then what is Vassa or Vahu pattiya.

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          “Vaha is not in current usage? Then what is Vassa or Vahu pattiya.”

          So what do you think of the meanings of Vasabha/ Vrushabha. Those are all victorious?”

          What you have is one named Vasabha, and you are trying to impose the same King on to what is supposedly read Vaha that is still not definite for making your claims.

          We have corresponding Tamil word for Vrushabha (and it may have been adopted from Sanskirit and currently completely Tamil-formed, the word is idapam , meaning bull).

          However, the words bull or cow (both are called maadu – மாடு) have different meaning, which the your Sinhala does not have.

          In those days, it meant wealthiest of the wealthy. So, if you say Vaha meant cow, Tamil has meaning fit for a King.

          You do not have clue what you are talking about.

          Tamil even has the word Vaahu (long a) by itself. It means someone who has valour, again fit for a King.

          VeeraVaahu (meaning daring valour ) was the commander in chief of Lord Murugan, Tamils’ and Tamil’s supreme god.

          I know you Sinhalese have Weerawagu, which is again directly adopted from VeeraVaahu.

          However, Sinhalese do not have the history (fit for King) for Vaahu as in VeeraVaahu.

          All reeks Tamil. Isnt’t it?

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            Correction:

            Veera Vaahu means daring shoulder (not in the sense of physical shoulder).

            Vaahu means shoulder, normally not in the sense of physical shoulder; and it in some context it can mean well built person.

            It can take different meaning in different context. It can mean some one who is well built and good at archery, some who stands shoulder to shoulder (with people in the context of a King) in the need of hour, and of course some one who is courageous and daring.

            I have actually searched for Vasabha, and it does appear to be distortion of the word Thuvisapam.

            Thuvisapam – துவிசபம்
            துவிசபம், a cloven-footed creature, கவைக் குளம்புள்ளது.
            துவிசன், a Brahmin, as twice-born, the investiture with the sacred thread being regarded as a second birth.

            Again all these (Vaha, Vahu, Vrushaba, Vasabha etc. ) are fit for King only in Tamil.

            However, I accept that Tamil adopted Vrushaba, Vasabha (Thuvisapam – துவிசபம்) from Sanskrit and formed into complete Tamil-form.

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              KA

              You can write all sorts of nonsense like other Tamils, but I am talking about king Vaha. Mahavansha has written in Pali so it gives the Pali word of Vaha which is Vasabha. King used old Sinhala. Cow is a sacred animal so no surprise to have a name like this. This king is a very important king who did lot to the country. His other inscriptions in the South give the same name.

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                Tamils have a pleasure in twisting words. Mutasiva a sanskrit name in to Mutha Sivan, Tissa to Tissan. So all Tissas like Sadda Tissa, Vankanasika Tissa, Lajja Tisasa, Soora Tissa and all the other Tissas can make Tamils by just twisting.

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                  Why should we twist when it is obvious.

                  What’s the meaning of Tissa in Sihala?

                  At some point in time, your forefather stooges to Asoka had decided to adopt the Prakritised form.

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                  Yalppana Vaipavamalai says that Ukkiracinkan after having lost his kingdom went north (Thamilakam) and brought an army and ruled northern Sri Lanka from Katiramalai in 795 A.D and later his son Valacinkan succeeded him.
                  King Vaha can also be King Vala, why assume as king Vasaba, why not king Valacinkan?
                  It was Paranavitane who analyzed the Vallipuram gold plate and misinterpreted the Prakrit as old Sinhala where King Vaha became king Vasaba, LOL!

                  Mutasiva a sanskrit name ??? LOL!
                  Could you please show us in which Sanskrit lexicon you found the word Mutasiva and also the meaning of this word in Sanskrit?

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                    True to the tradition of the early Buddhist writers in Sri Lanka who had twisted the Tamil words sometimes out of recognition in transforming Tamil names into Prakrit or Pali forms, the Sinhala Archeologists/epigraphists are still continuing the same tradition.
                    Ancient Brahmi inscriptions of Lanka had been written in a South Asian Prakrit language. Wilhelm Geiger named/labelled it as Sinhala Prakrit and Senarat Paranavitane named it as Old Sinhala. However, it has been shown that a very similar Prakrit inscriptions were also in existence in South India. The hilarious part is, if you remove all the Sanskrit and twisted/corrupted Tamil words from the so called ‘Sinhala Prakrit/Old Sinhala’ there will be nothing left.
                    Both Geiger and Paranavitane never bothered to learn the Dravidian languages to interpret the Ancient Brahmi inscriptions more correctly. Had they known as much of Tamil language and literature as they knew Pali/Prakrit language and literature, they are not likely to have made so many misleading slips in their comments and notes in dealing with Tamil words and place names in the Prakrit inscriptions and Pali texts. A considerable number of them appear to be Tamil terms and they could be easily explained drawing comparable material from ancient Tamil Sangam literature as well as ancient Tamil Brahmi inscriptions.

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                      There is no language called South Asian Prakrit language. You are the one who screamed there is NO word called Sinhala/Sihala anywhere in the world till 20th century and Sinhala appear only in 7th AD on Sigiriya Mirror wall. Do your small brain have got a smallest idea as to how many long years it takes to develop a language into a state like it in the mirror wall?. It is almost equal to present Sinhalese. All North Indians languages, old Sinhala, old Maldives language are called Prakrits. Tamil have no shame to admit anything written in South India in Brahmi to call Tamil Brahmi but in SL they are written in alien language. Go and hit your head hard on a stone wall, then it will come in to reality

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                      kanthilatha
                      Why are you uttering gibberish as if a coconut has fallen on your head? When I said South Asian Prakrit, I am talking about an Indo-Aryan language (not Dravidian). What Geiger assumed as Sinhala Prakrit and what Paranavitana assumed as Old Sinhala is one of the South Asian Prakrits that was common to both Sri Lanka and South India (other than Dravidian/Tamil) written in Brahmi script. It is common sense that a language needs a few centuries to evolve and the Sinhala language appeared for the first time in the 8th century AD Sigiri mirror wall graffiti and Sinhala/Helu literature appeared only after the 9th century AD. It must have started developing with the support of Pali, old Tamil and the South Asian Indo-Aryan Prakrit that Geiger labelled as Sinhala Prakrit and Paranavitana named it as old Sinhala. Other than the cave/stone inscriptions (about donations to the Buddhist Sangha), we do not see any texts/literature written in Prakrit or Helu or Sinhala before the 9th AD. Every text before that was written in Pali. We are not sure if Sinhala existed when the Pali chronicles were written (there is no clue even in the Mahavamsa). For example, Mahavamsa says Mahinda Thero preached Buddhism to the people of the island in Dipa basa (NOT ‘Sinhala basa’). Hope your pea brain has a little bit of grey matter to comprehend.

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                    Thank you LC for providing this explanation.

                    CT has removed part of my explanation to SJ as to why Veeravaahu can never be Veerabaahu.

                    Hopefully CT allows the following short explanation.

                    Veerabaahu is not properly formed Tamil name because of mating rules of letters and words.

                    If Veerabaahu was actual name, it must have been VeeraPPaahu (i.e. the P consonant must be present between ‘Veera’ and ‘baahu’, baahu will become paahu in pronunciation).

                    As I stated before, Veeravaahu is by the reason that he was always along with Lord Murugan by shoulder-to-shoulder.

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                What you are saying is impression that you like exist in reality. However, it could be different.

                You are repeating same line of Prof S.P., and I will not comment on that.

                It is true Cow is sacred animal and symbolises all sorts of passivity.

                However, no King would have liked or allowed his name to mean or be Cow even at a point of enemy’s sword on his neck.

                Show me in the history apart from the one you still like to call Cow.

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            KA
            In Sinhala ‘sa’ becomes ‘ha’ very often so vaha is a permitted form for vasa which is short for vasabha (as Pali does not tolerate awkward consonant clusters).
            *
            வாகை is the name of a tree like Laurel is.
            Other meanings derive from the use of the flowers to celebrate victory as did a wreath of laurel leaves Veeravaahu was really Veerabaahu. How can වීරවගු have any link to வீரவாகு unless the former is related in meaning to the latter.
            Also, the flowers dear to Murigan are supposedly வெட்சி, கடம்பு, முல்லை, குறிஞ்சி, மல்லிகை, காந்தள். No sign of vaahai.
            By the way, bull is ගොනා and cow is එළදෙනin Sinhala.

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              “How can වීරවගු have any link to வீரவாகு unless the former is related in meaning to the latter.”

              වීරවගු = Weerawagu

              I think I typed it incorrect. The example names are A. Veeravagu, and it is the Sanskritised form of Veeravaahu.

              “Veeravaahu was really Veerabaahu.”

              No, all these places like Wiki etc and other current literature writing as Veerabaahu is actually incorrect.

              The name Veervaahu is by the reason that he commanded the forces so that all the time he was fighting shoulder-to-shoulder with Murugan, all the time shielding the Lord Murugan.

              This is very personal to father’s family side. They received special rights to offer Kodichcheelai (the flag that is hoisted on the first day of Thiruvizhaakkal in Hindu (now a days) kovils) to Pancha Eeshwarams (பஞ்ச ஈச்சரங்கள்) and Murugan Kovils. Lord Murugan felt so indebted to Veeravaahu, he ordered Veeravaahu to make request of boons and be granted. Veeravaahu only requested that his clan be disease (கூன், குருடு, செவிடு, பேடு) free and so was blessed by Lord Murugan.

              On the other hand if you look at mating rules of Tamil words

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                “They received special rights to offer Kodichcheelai (the flag that is hoisted on the first day of Thiruvizhaakkal in Hindu (now a days) kovils) to Pancha Eeshwarams (பஞ்ச ஈச்சரங்கள்) and Murugan Kovils.”

                What I meant is my father’s family unimaginably ancient, ancient, ancient ancestors, this story is passed on to the next generation by mouth.

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              SJ
              Why are you uttering rubbish?
              I would like to ask you, from where you got this concept of ‘sa’ becoming ‘ha’ in Sinhala language. Can you present any piece of evidence to show that the concept ‘ha’ used in place of ‘sa’ anywhere in the Sinhala language or literature or any of the ancient inscriptions. There is no any rule in Sinhala language/grammar to write ‘Vaha’ in place of ‘Vasa’. If it is so then Pansala can be written as Panhala and Sinhala can be written as Sinsala.
              You seem to be a blatant liar. Please remember, you cannot fool all the people all the time.

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    Wigneswaran was brought into Parliament by Basil Rajapaksa to dismantle and weaken TNA and also to create disharmony among Sinhalese and Tamils about sensitive topics, thus allowing Tamil politicians to further ignore the dire living conditions of Tamils in the North and East.

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      Wiggie breaks every law. Instead of making efforts to do the due, he has always been doing nothing. Last night I happened to watch a YT that displayed the basic problems of tamil community in our country. Most of them have whole lot of problems within their race based on caste system. A tamil TV anchor makes it very clear to the nation.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mUJ_GZJP2w

      I wonder how WIGGIE did his job as a Judge before entering to srilanken politics.

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        It is high time SRILANKEN tamils and muslims to see it right. What is obviously lacking in our country is, regardless of their races and religions their general knowledge based on people s rights. If they would fight for their rights without being biased to anyone, sinhala politicians would not make plans to rely on abusive politicians. God father of this culture was MAHINDA JARAPAKSHE… he would sell his wife being that intoxicated to gain power and ruin this nation. That was what we got to display in misterious killings such as RUGBY PLAYER MURDER, Lasantha MURDER, Ekanligoda murder…. even his wife is somehow complicit of one of two killings as reports pointed out.

        I am bit worried, whether RICHARD BADIUDEEN supporters would vote for the upcoming parliamentary voting.

        Sinhala politicians have abused them as political foot balls. This tamil and muslim poltiicians should have noticed long ago.

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      Champa,

      I also received a similar message from a friend, see below…

      Quote*****This can be a big drama directed by Basil using Vasu’s in-law Wiggy as the main actor. Even Mahinda once said, “I know Wiggy, he is not a racist”. Looks like they are playing a joint game with a hidden agenda? After letting Wiggy to utter some racist rubbish to provoke the Sinhalese (they get carried away by these stupid utterances making matters worse). Now the question is, who is fooling whom? The only guy who really got provoked was Fonny. The Sinhalese and Tamils should be cautious not to get carried away by Wiggy’s stupid utterances and the stupid responses from others. These people are playing a Joint game and only fooling the Sinhalese and Tamils. Wiggy lives in Colombo and his grandchildren don’t speak Tamil. As a Chief Minister he did nothing to the North. With a red dot on his forehead, he is simply fooling the Tamils, just another typical politician.*****Unquote.

      However, I still believe CVW is genuine just like SJV.

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        Lanka Canuck
        Thank you for sharing this with the readers.
        I have said this in previous occasions too. That is the reason I avoided posting comments to his articles.

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          Champa,
          .
          Wiggie himself knows nothing what his mouth piece drops down. He does not seem to know what his role should be. I think young actresses know it a way better than Wiggie or the like do. They dont add any controversal statement in public. Words are like weapons for a nation filled with racism. Knowing that him to go on talking about TAMIL and srilanken origins… is just wasting time only.

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        CVW genuine?
        Check with his record at the Provincial Council, starting with appointment of friends and family, his stand on pollution of well water, his ambiguity about Indian poaching in northern waters etc.
        *
        How genuine can be a leader with property and investment in the South calling for a federal state for Tamils?
        How genuine can be a leader who calls himself a Gandhian but avoids denouncing a political assassination?
        *
        Perhaps you are right: “CVW is genuine just like SJV”.

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          ” How genuine can be a leader with property and investment in the South calling for a federal state for Tamils? ” Even the extremely biased Sinhala Buddhist lawyers who sued CV for his Sumanthiran drafted Manifesto have shown in Supreme Court that they can understand what Federal Sate is. A matter to worry, there is extreme shortage in UOJ in for a few cells of intelligence.
          Siri Mao, nationalized her fiance minister Ronnie de Mel’s high yielding estates, dumped her low yieldings, for public show, grabbed all what Ronnie gave out. What a great socialist.

          “CVW is genuine just like SJV” That is correct; SJV was selling his Malaysian estate and funding the Federal Party of Ceylon Tamils.

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          SJ
          CVW is much more genuine than a ‘smart aleck’ like you. You keep asking others for scientific evidence and authentic source but for all your bigoted comments and ideas, when others ask you from where you got them, you pretend as if you have not read the comments. Go back to other threads and see how many times I have asked you and you seem to have (intentionally) not noticed them. I have a feeling that you are carrying a big chip on your shoulder.

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    Rapist Navy Sarath Weerasekara, the PC – LC minister, insisting he wants to have the PCs (13A) abolished. It was taken seriously from Tamils’ part because King’s appointment of this extreme racist, designated war criminal, military man to provincial administration suggested that government’s position too is that. In 2014, Nimal Sri Pala De Silva who was selected to abolishing the PCs, could not achieve it ignoring PM Manmohan’s strong objection. This Weerasekara has been acting as a rowdy king outside of UNHRC, Geneva for last few years, when every time the Lankawe matter was discussed inside. His main argument to abolish 13A is India didn’t fulfill its obligation. But it was Sinhala Buddhist political parties wanted IPKF vacate in 24 hours before it finished its obligation. Further, it was Sinhala Buddhist Appe Aanduwa was the one rearmed LTTE when India had almost disarmed LTTE. Communist Dinesh said that if doesn’t like unitary government, Tamils can go to Mars (probably moon is reserved by SLFP Royals for paddy cultivation during election time). These two are the new un-appointed spoke persons of Nazi Aanduwa. So Indian Embassy talked to Weerasekara. It didn’t work. Recently Indian Prime Minster Modi met with Old King on a Tele-Meeting and released joint statement that 13A would be implemented. Aanduwa denied that Colombo Media unequivocally.

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    Recently there was an all island power outage starting from Kerawelapitiya plant, which said to be suppling power to Chinese Colombo Pong Cing. After 7th year, the constitution for this small island is still in draft. China will not accept Lankawe law. Lankawe feels ashamed of implementing Chinese law. So Lankawe proposed British law, trying to cool China, explaining as that is a financial center, so British law is better. It seems China has not relented.
    LankaCnews printed a long 15 pages essay on the Gin Nil Wala Ganga project. This is to provide water to the China’s Industrial zone in Hangbangtota. The high powered Chinese visit said to expedite the Industrial zone. It is for this project Gammanpila accused Ranil as had given 1 Million Visa for Chinese.
    On the other side of the spectrum, an English Media printed an Interview with US Ambassador. Interesting point the Colombo Media had given prominence on that is ambassador’s accusation of it was Lankawe who wanted the “MCC”, but is has been politicized now. Harsha in Parliament, last week, said that Old King had appointed Ex. CBG to work on MCC, in 2005. Answering to that Cabral said he produced all the needed paper work but he didn’t wish to oppose that project and resign.

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    King had asked India $450M loan in replacement of MCC and another $1.3 swap when he visited India, at the end of last year. But, even during the Old King’s tele-meeting, Colombo media suggested, , that India yet to release or even approve it. Yesterday, Media again reported that King had asked Chinese visitors for $450M – a match to MCC (MCC is not a loan, a 100% free money) and Chinese promised for that without any condition. Usually Colombo Media describe the Hangbangtota harbor loans like matters as loans without condition. But that type of unconditional loans like that was the reason the harbor was foreclosed within five years. After China had taken over the port because of Lankawe’s inability to run it to generate loan interest, King released a statement two days ago stating that he is going to show the world, who criticized Hangbangtota, Mahambura as loan trap, how profitable the Port Project is. It is equivalent to milking the cow died by hunger. While Chinese were meeting in Temple Tree House, last week, American defense officials were visiting the Hangbangtota. Then, again, the long advertised visit of American State Secretary, Mike Pompeo is staring to appear in Colombo media.

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    Another recent development is Norwegian Envoy Erik Solheim’s offer to facilitate again negotiations. There were at least two Tele – consultation meeting. In one of them it appeared Tamils completely spoiled it and Solheim backed off and organizers brought him back to screen. What some Tamils fails to understand is Referendum to find out what Thayaga Tamils wants is not a political solution ; it is neither the justice Tamils war affected community is seeking from IC. IC has been very slow in responding the request of Justice from Tamils. It seems there are no IC members are sponsoring this referendum call either, in contrast to solution 13A or Resolution 30/1 of UNHRC. Last year, in a meeting in Geneva, Catalonia politicians advised to Tamils that theirs like unsponsored referendum is not suitable for Tamil.
    From 1976, it was confirmed that Tamils want separate country, by many different opinion seeking methods. SJV’s Challenge in 1975 election against Sri Lanka Constitution of 1972; all Tamils party Vatttukkottai convention; all subsequent election victories of TULF and TNA; Tamils unanimous rejection of JR’s 13A; the North East Tamils unanimous supported to LTTE in freedom fight. If, now Tamil leadership thinks they know what the Tamils want, they need to ask IC to work on that for them.

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    International facilitated negotiations failed to provide a solution during last few decades, including Thimbu, Oslo & Sampanthan Ayya’s Secret Solution, with UNHRC’s blessing. In that condition trying to force IC to act for referendum, which would need least, UN Peace Keepers or NATO and after that negotiate a solution based on that (it is not guaranteed IC will agree on that), and then going for the justice sounds like as never realizable dream. Out of the three main parties of IC, India is willing to rework the 13A. America is interested in Human Rights restoration. UNHRC’s resolution was about Transitional Justice & War Crime, initiated by America. Now UK and Germany are two main countries trying to take it forward. In the second Tele- meeting, to get the IC united for a Tamils’ solution, it appeared that Envoy Solheim put forward the need of three basic environments. 1).The Tamils needs to be united; 2).probably led by TNA; 3).Solution is Federal State. Here the disappointment is TNA failed to stay united and further it was not CV’s fault he went alone. The last election showed that in front of government’s power to divide Tamils, them staying united is not easy.

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    My earnest believes is Tamils can be united better, if IC is very explicit on its interest in bringing an end to Tamils’ predicament. Now none of the Tamils’ leadership can say what they can do for Tamils’ problem. To put forward really strong campaign for unity, that leader needs IC’s backup. That leader has to tell all other Tamils stay with me or stand to lose. Tamils are unable to put confidence on anybody for rally behind them. The History is GG lost staying with government. SJV lost opposing government. Leader Pirapaharan lost fighting with government. Sampanthar lost making peace with government to satisfy IC’s expectations. Prof. K seems to agree that TNA was so featherbrained when it was hanging with Yahapalanaya for the Secret Solution. So Tamils’ unity needs IC’s input.

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    It was Mr. Solheim stated that Lankawe government will not give anything without a fight. So, after put additional efforts to extract a Federal State from Lankawe and then watching it going as another Hong Kong is a meaningless endeavor. Otherwise, either America or UN is ready to deploy its troops in North East and ensure the security for 50 years, what is the point of seeking Federal State? Why Government didn’t implement 13A? Is that because, it was not as good as Federal state? Government can deny anything and Tamils can do nothing for that.

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    Looks like Lankans are capable of continuing above discussions for another 75 years. Good Luck. Now can some one tell me “who came first”?????

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      “who came first”??????

      Egg or Chicken?

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        R
        Which not who!

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        Dear Rajash,
        .
        a country filled with stupid people than the opposite would not care much about who came first. They would believe anything being said about facts. That is the ground reality of our people. No matter what raceor religion they are born into. Not ven 30% of the population would question about anything. They are trained to follow any BLANT lies being telecasted by PACHAWAHINIS of the day that brainwash them for the political survival or vicious/predatory politicians.

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    Prakrit means original or natural form or condition of anything. Sanskrit means refind.

    List of Prakrit languages.

    Apabhramsa, Ardhamagadhi, Dramali (Dramatic Prakrit), Elu, Gandhari, Kamarupi, Magaghi, Maharashtri. Paishachi, Pali, Shauraseni

    Elu also Hela or Helu is a Middle Indo Aryan language or Prakrit of the 3rd century BCE. It is ancestral to the Sinhalese & Dhivehi ( Maldives) languages.

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    R.C. Chiders say ” Elu is the name by which is known as ancient form of the Sinhala language from which the modern vernacular of Ceylon is immediately received and to which the latter bears is of the same relation that English of today bears to Anglo- Saxon.

    The name Elu is no other than Sinhala much succeeded, standing for an older form, Hela, Helu which occurs in some ancient works & this again for a still older Sela which bring us back to Pali Sihala.

    The Pali scholar Thomas William R. David refer to Elu as the ” Prakrit of Ceylon”

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      Elu the native language of the island was spoken by the Dravidian tribes who arrived in the island after the Veddha, during pre historic times. Ancient Dravidian tribes like the Naga and Yakka who arrived here long before even the arrival of Aryans into the Indian subcontinent in the far north west of India along the Afghan border , around 6000 miles north west of the island , will not be speaking Indo Aryan Prakrit languages in the island. Stop making an idiot of yourself and trying to quote outdated facts , that were written in the late 1800 to early 1900 by racist Aryan supremacist white colonial historians , that have all now been proven to be bunch of lies and rubbish. Chingkallams are still trying to quote all these outdated rubbish to justify their fake claim to the island. They cannot quote anything modern , as this proves that the Dravidians or Tamils were already here and Chingkallam and the Chingkalla language evolved from them.

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        When many Thamizh or semi Thamizh speaking Dravidian tribes , down south converted to Buddhism and started to bastardize their Thamizh with the Pali and Prakrit that arrived with Buddhism and trade and this evolved into Chingkallam by 7AD. It has also been noted in areas where the Naga predominated mostly along the NE , the North west coast, the ancient Thamizh language and identity prevailed , despite many of the population converting to Buddhism . However in the Yakka predominating areas like the south of the island , the Thamizh language did not prevail and Chingkallam evolved from it. This may be due to the fact NE of the island and NW coast , is closer the the Indian mainland. Now coming to Elu it is a simple semi or proto Thamizh Dravidian language and just like the Veda language or old Chingkallam called Hela ( Elu+Prakrit) , was very close to its Thamizh mother in structure and pronunciation. Old Chingkallam or Hela was very close to its Thamizh mother than modern Chingkallam , that has now been deliberately Sanskritized. Please do not keep posting lies and twisting history and outdated facts. Thanks

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