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WikiLeaks: LTTE’s Understanding Of International Affairs Was “Close To Zero” – Solheim

By Colombo Telegraph

“Minister for International Development Erik Solheim, who was involved in setting up the Nordic Sri Lanka Monitoring Mission (SLMM) in 2002, stated that the LTTE had an understanding of international affairs that was ‘close to zero.’ He further commented that their unfounded hope for some sort of external salvation, either through pressure from the Diaspora community or other international intervention, combined with a leader surrounded by yes-men, led to the ‘shocking’ and disastrous decision by the LTTE to finish the war as a conventional fighting force. The Norwegian government was in contact with the political leadership of the LTTE until the end of the conflict, but after 2006, only by telephone.” the US Embassy Oslo informed Washington.

Erik Solheim

A Leaked “CONFIDENTIAL” US diplomatic cable, dated August 24, 20o9, recounts the details of a meeting the US ambassador to Oslo Clint Williamson has had with Norwegian peace envoy Erik Solheim. The Colombo Telegraph found the related leaked cable from the WikiLeaks database which is written by acting Deputy Chief of Mission Cherrie Daniels.

Cherrie Daniels wrote “Information of particular interest to Ambassador Williamson was the GON’s communications with senior LTTE that took place on May 17 and 18 just prior to the conclusion of the conflict. Solheim explained that the MFA had a series of phone conversations with LTTE political and military leaders who wanted to surrender to Red Cross or United Nations representatives. The Norwegians advised them that no Red Cross or UN representatives were in the area and that their only option at that point was to raise the white flag and surrender directly to the Sri Lankan army. The next day, all those persons were dead, and the Norwegians said that the circumstances under which they died remain unknown and implicitly suspicious. At the same time, Solheim and his staff noted that during their conversations with LTTE leaders on May 17 and 18, gunfire could be heard, and their interlocutors admitted shot were being fired by both sides. The fact that they may have tried to surrender under these circumstances further muddies whether or not this incident could be considered an IHL violation. More generally, the Norwegians found the wholesale slaughter of LTTE forces in the last days of the conflict to be highly suspicious, as ‘it is most likely that at least some LTTE forces tried to surrender.'”

Related cable;  WikiLeaks: US – GON Talks On Sri Lanka’s War Crimes

 

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    Dear Erik Solheim, So was LTTE’s understanding of Sri Lankan affairs. That was close To Zero as well. That is why they were insisting on demands that were not possible for any Sri Lankan leader to deliver.

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      SL lives have no value.

      Whether it is the suicide bombing or the arial bombing, white vanning or tyre burning.

      Descendants of the architects of the natives extinction, this is what runs in our blood and engulfs our soul.

      Even Buddha’s doctrine has been vandalized, held to ransom.

      We may be able to turn a blind eye on dead Tigers
      Diffcult when 350 000 under drones & Beechcraft become ‘only 70 000’
      Obviously not all were into torture and gory
      But the fellows who were decent are branded ‘traitors’
      The ‘gory’ are rewarded with ‘patriot’ powers.

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    I find it hard to believe that someone as super-smart as Prabha, with his army of overseas LTTE lawyers, supporters, financiers, logisticians had an“understanding of international affairs that was ‘close to zero.”

    What had his international representatives like Anton Balasingham and Father Emmanuel told him about how the world functioned outside the Vanni?

    Was VP really expecting a relief force of dancing pro-LTTE youth to arrive in the Vanni from London, Toronto and Paris? http://tinyurl.com/98tvhk3

    It’s also good to know that VP was a “leader surrounded by yes-men”. That’s the mark of a genuine, 100% Sri Lankan politician.

    The US State Dept’s acronym for Government of Norway (GON) is perfect, no? Solheim, a gona working for GON(a), trying to save a bunch of gonas from their well-deserved fate. :) :)

    Good work by CT in finding this cable.

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      I hope our friend understand few Sinhala words. May be somebody preferably a Sinhala guy should explain to him how apt GON and GONA is considering the outcome.

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      Ha ha , spot on man

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    The LTTE was a non governmental organization, banned by almost every country in the West. The Tigers were considered irresponsible criminals.
    On the other hand a democratic elected goverment, recognized internationally has duties and responsibilities, to protect all its citizens, not go to war against them.

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      “…an elected goverment, .. has duties and responsibilities, to protect all its citizens”, which it did by destroying the LTTE.

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        and raping, torturing, killing 150,000 innocent civilians using cluster boombs and chemcial waepons on hospitals. to complete the state sponsored terrorism that reigned from 1956

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          This guy is one of those yes men of LTTE who are spreading lies (4000, became 40,000, now it has risen to 150,000), still has no clue on what had hit them.

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          wow, its seems that whole population in Vanni was destroyed. Dont be stupid pal. from where did you get these figures.

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          Speak something that a sensible human being can accept as the truth.LTTE was ramsacking entire Sri Lanka with bombs,etc to kill innocent civilians and not who were fighting against them.SL Govt, fed all those murderers thru out the conflict.When around 300,000 inoocent civilians, mostly Tamils were kept as hosatages during the last few months, where the hell were you? It was Sri Lankan soldiers,mostly Sinhalese soldiers who saved them from the LTTE murderers.

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        The Sri Lankan will give equal rights to Tamils …thats sure…..
        But by the time no of tamils in that island nation will be 0.
        They have done “Tamil destruction” in the name of Elminating terrorist…
        All tamils in sri lanka are terrorist. and they are just destroying tamils….

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      A government has the responsibility to protect its citizens from criminals and terrorists. Every time a policeman anywhere in the world arrests a suspected criminal, using force if necessary, they have “to go to war against them”, as you put it. That’s why every country in the world has a police force, let alone an army. Just because someone is a citizen of a country doesn’t mean they can terrorize and murder at will. Your argument is a recipe for us to be ruled by criminals and thugs. Please think about what you are writing.

      The Tamil Tigers were given many sessions of talks to work out a compromise agreement. It was their decision, supported by many migrant Tamils in the West, to refuse to compromise and make the poor Tamils in the north endure such dreadful hardships. But that was always the nature of the LTTE, you should look deeper into it, my friend.

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        same LTTE was repsonsible for killing of Tamils in 1956, 1958, 1977, 1981, 1983 and killing of Parliamentarians Joseph Rajasingham in church, Ravi raj in front of his house not the repsonsible Sinhala governments

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          Raja,
          The person who shot Joseph Pararajasingam calmly walked into the church,shot him,and calmly walked out of the church,through the ranks of police and army around the church.
          Those who shot Raviraj,escaped through many ‘check points’ manned by the army and police.
          It took two hours to set up road blocks around the area after Lakshman Kadirgamer was shot dead at 9.30pm, by which time, the shooters had escaped with the long range weapon.

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          You have every reason to condemn the brutal Sri Lankan regime for slaughtering thousands of innocent Tamils with cluster bombs, chemical bombs, massive bombs from supersonic jets, artelleries & high caliber guns, but please do not protect the prabahran and his LTTE. This disguting man -Prabaharan- played a big role by virtue of his arrogance in reducing the Tamils to this state. Eric Solhaim is absolutely right about this monster, who is thankfully not with us anymore.

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    In the seminal treatise on recent SL history “Gota’s war”, there is an anecdote where Solheim, trying to pressure him ointo negotiating with VP, tells MR that VP is a military genius and that SLA can never hope to defeat LTTE militarily. MR rebuffs him saying “you think he is a jungle boy? Well I am a jungle boy from the South so let’s see what happens”.

    The Norwegians, like the Indians and British, bear much blood on their hands for complicity in the carnage caused by LTTE as each facilitated it at different stages. There is little doubt that the top leadership, having sacrificed much of the Vanni Tamil population as cannonfodder wanted to escape the country and regroup in a refuge somewhere realizing the hopelessness of their situation. But the rescue never came and justice was done at Nandikadal.

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      Ugly American, as you say, ‘the rescue never came and justice was done at Nandikadal’. Could you kindly elaborate who was going to provide rescue? and why it was not done? Is it not deliberate? Ha! Ha!

      We will see now whether the World body Can or Want to deal with MR if they were planning to provide rescue?

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      Justice was done in Ampara in 1956 by burning the Tamils in Sugar cane plantations, 1958 by cutting sinhala sri in Tamil womens breast, beating the Tamil politicans using thugs, 1977 beating teh Tamisl an dburing theri property with state sponsored terrorism, in 1981, 1983 and Finally in Nandikadal

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        Cmon Raja, We both know that ‘finally’ it was not at Nandikadal where he lost some of his doings. We were under the impression that immersing Sinhala women in boiling barrels of Tar in Jaffna (1956) was a cultural exercise. You live and learn.

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          Raja says:

          “1958 by cutting sinhala sri in Tamil womens breast”

          Sinhalam says:

          “We were under the impression that immersing Sinhala women in boiling barrels of Tar in Jaffna (1956) was a cultural exercise. You live and learn”

          Not much difference between two stupid peoples.

          Being stupid Sihalese you may exist but you never learn.

          Being stupid Tamil you may exist but you never learn.

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        Yes that kind of ugly past we have in Sri Lanka but that is nothing compare to what LTTE did to Sri Lanka’s whole population.

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          Sudarshan says:

          “Yes that kind of ugly past we have in Sri Lanka but that is nothing compare to what LTTE did to Sri Lanka’s whole population”

          So was it the outcome of comparative analysis of who is more brutal than the other?

          Could you compare two brutal acts of violence?

          Would the victim have choice?

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      The UK is still having a blind eye and still protecting the remaining biggest LTTE TERRORIST ADELE BALASINGHAM

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        For Your information the Rajapaske government are protecting more LTTE leaders; K.P et al, Karuna and Pilyian who were commanders of the eastern province where 500 sinhala policemen were killed. If you are not going to prosecute people in Sri lanka why would you accept other countries to do it. K.P is wanted by interpol but the GoSL is refusing to hand him over.

        So Sri lanka is turning a blind eye to the leaders of the LTTE (mastermind) while foot soldiers are locked up

        Explain this.
        Rajapaske was not fighting a war against terrorism and it seems now not a war against just tamils, It was a war to take control of all Sri lanka like Gaddaffi did to Libya. Rajapaske is following Gadaffi’s green boo very well. 40 years time no one will be able to protect the sinhalese community.

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          Pretheepan very true these Mahadanamuttas and the Patriots get their tougues tied the moment when, one questions of the duplicity of MR regarding the LTTE connections and dispensation of Justice to all LTTE alike, which they boast of having defeated. It is very clear that this Moda Sinhala Nation has been taken for a Right Royal Ride by MR and some of the LTTE with whom MR has a truck and is supported by the World Body, allowing MR to freely violate Democracy and establish Dictatorship in this country. If this is not realised this country is doomed!

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          Pretheepan, not only MR is protecting two ruthless killers in the LTTE as Karuna Amman and Pillayan, MR is getting the very Sinhalese Soldiers whose brother soldiers and families were massacred by the LTTE, to ‘Sir’ them and stand guard for them and these ‘SAKKILI’ Soldiers are complying. So does any one find anything more ludicrous than this? If MR asks these Moda Sinhalese Soldiers to wash Karuna Amman’s and Pillayan’s backside, they will even do that.

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    If Solheim is sorry for his buddies (LTTE leaders) being killed, then he and his Viking gang of SLMM alone should carry the responsibility for it.

    Did they not boost the moral of LTTErs when every SLMM chief warned the defense secretory publicly that Pirapkaran is a master strategist at war and Sri Lanka forces can never defeat LTTE. Pirapakaran thought he is invincible.

    Solheim and co had elevated LTTE to be a de-facto government of North and East. So, LTTE had no choice; they had to be a conventional fighting force because. And that’s the truth. SLMM and the so-called IC gave LTTE so much backing and confidence Pirapakaran thought he could win the war. Conventional or guerrilla fighting we would have finished it for we had the right mentality and the right leadership at the time.

    We Sri Lankans should be eternally thankful for Rajapakse for keeping the Norway parasites far far away since.
    Leela

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      Nobody made else LTTE defacto government Tamil Nation did

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        Tamil Nation??? Where is this so called NATION at home, IN TAMIL NADU PERHAPS??? !!!

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          mahadenamutta says:

          “Tamil Nation??? Where is this so called NATION at home, IN TAMIL NADU PERHAPS??? !!!”

          I hate to agree with you. You are right.

          Sinhala Buddhist nation????

          Where is this so called NATION at home, Sinhapura in Bengal PERHAPS??? !!!

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      Leela

      ‘We Sri Lankans should be eternally thankful for Rajapakse for keeping the Norway parasites far far away since’

      We Sri Lankans have equally corrupt, and selfish, leaderships representing the Sinhalese, Tamils, Muslims etc, and unless the masses do not come together and stand up against these opportunistic crooks, our country will forever continue to worship warmongers and gangsters who depend on our division to retain their powers.

      The Sinhalese have as much to be thankful for MR as the Tamils have for VP. Only the extremely short-sighted and selfish on both sides appreciate what either of these people have done in our country. sad reality is, there are many such people in both these populations!

      Our country will only ever be a failure, as long as our people continue to live in blissful ignorance, supporting crooks, in the name of cultural and religious identities and allegiances.

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        Navin
        Can you name a single presidential material who in your opinion had been not opportunistic and was not in to crookedness and mischief and would be honest when get the power. I suppose, in our current situation and prevailing democratic system, none can govern this country with ‘Raja bhawatu dhammiko’ alone.

        Just think of all the things that JRJ, Premadasa and ChandrikaK had done as President of this country. I can list and compare hundreds of worst action by them than that by Rajapakse.

        Besides, we all know that, the likes of Solheim and their local agents would spend any amount of money and do all the mischief and dirty tricks both at local as well as at international level to change his nationalistic stance. And if that is not possible they will do a sting operation to rid of him. So the first thing national minded Rajapakse had to do, I suppose is to control the said lot and stay in power.

        And If that hadn’t been done, Pirapakaran would have being still planting his human bombs around us. And likes of you Eelamists and separatists may not be screaming war is bad.

        Now that Pirapakaran and co is dead, waging war against terrorist LTTE has become warmongering, and riddance of terrorists has become a war crime.

        We read now, all that Solheim wanted to do was give Pirapakaran a lease of life to fight another day. All he wanted to do now is to support Pirapakaran’s decedents to reach the missed goal. Fortunately majority Sinhalas understand this very clearly. So they vote and retain the best man they found. And you cannot do much about it.
        Leela

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          Yes how clever this “majority sinhalese” no?When they win T20 it is team work, but when it comes to war they think MR won it alone, how clever…They cannot understand if not for the Western ban on LTTE, MR is no where near to fight ltte, if not for the diplomatic support and bail out by India, MR will be in Hague..China and Russia veto did not help Rwanda, Sudan or Zimbabwe..

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          Leela, please produce that list you said you have got lot more to enter focusing the balanced good things that the incumbant has fulfiled after the war is defeated. Latter was a collective achievement, and about the defeat we dont need to discuss anymore. I mean since then. There would be many who would like to read them clearly.

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          Jegath
          Are you telling us that Westerners, meaning the so-called international community, and their local agents namely their puppet in most NGOs have been helping Rajapakse to defeat LTTE; if not, LTTE would have defeated Rajapakse. As for India it just got Rajapakse to do what it couldn’t or failed.

          You are entitled think the way you want but everyone knows that Russia and China are permanent members of the security council, and they have always backed us to the hilt. India too have no choice but to back Sri Lanka against LTTE and all the camouflage LTTErs in the future for its own good.
          Leela

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          Sumana thero
          This is what I said “… I can list and compare hundreds of worst action by them than that by Rajapakse.” So, to save my time and for the sake of an argument, if I may pick just one point what Rajapakse detractors say right now; Rajapakses is interfering on judgments, judges and etc.

          Leave out such accusations for the time being and just think of what JRJ did: Ignoring all the judges of in the Supreme Court at the time, remember, JRJ had appointed his loyal friend Nevil Samarakoon, a senior lawyer as the chief justice. However, as chief justice, CJ Samarakoon was impartial and hadn’t colluded with the government in anyway. JRJ hated Samarakoon’s judgments against the government so much; he even contemplated to impeach the CJ.

          At the end of his term however, CJ Samarakoon retired gracefully and hadn’t get into politics after retirement. But JRJ hadn’t taken Samarakoon’s ‘dis-loyalty’ to him lightly. JRJ demanded an undated letter of resignation from the next in line, and when he refused it, JRJ ignored the next in line and appointed the one who gave him the then famous letter.

          I need not explain how and why Chandrika appointed Sarath Silva to his job incrementally, and his morals, and the judgments he gave and the way he paved his way for him to do politics when in retirement.

          Now look at what Rajapakse had done, after Silva; he has appointed the next in line with no strings attached. True CJ’s husband was appointed a chairman of NSB. I say, being her husband, CJ should have prevented him taking up that job in the first place. There is no way to know who is telling the truth. There is no way to test judges’ integrity or the public approval for their integrity. I for one has experience to conclude that many are corrupt.

          Anyway, we are all for CJ and other judges to be free from duress and impartial. But they should understand that the President of Sri Lanka is not appointed but directly elected by the people with 50% + 1 vote and is tested indirectly time and again. So, our judges can never dream of doing what they do in Pakistan.
          Leela

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          Leela, in response to a request by Sumana Thero to list out the good done by MR, you take evasive action of stating the bad of the previous as JRJ. Even then you miserably fail as you can not come up with any credible evidence of any, this bad under MR. You say about Neville Samarakoon. Yes indeed I believe Neville Samarakoon’s appointment as CJ is noteworthy by JRJ as what came out was the stature of both NS and JRJ. JRJ did not get any to assault NS then as done by MR today. As for NS, just because JRJ appointed him as CJ he did not sell his self respect for anything. Such were the calibre of all then, unlike the scum as MR today. Leelawathi you are pathetic!

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          Leela, sorry, but there is no use weighing up who is more evil than who. Evil is evil. Corruption is corruption.

          Instead of digging deep to try and find gold from a pile of sh*t, do your country a favor, and spend that energy trying to change it for the better. Then you will have to do less digging!!

          We can forever patriotically ignore the truth about us, but then, we will forever remain a failure. Ask yourself, what have we as a nation achieved since 1948? Are you proud to gift this country over to the next generation in the state it is now?

          We should be ashamed of what we have done with our independence. Instead of defending corrupt and opportunistic leaders, we should at least now start to demand more accountability from our leaders!

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    The truth is that VP was never the character he was projected to be to have carried this war for the last thirty years. It was not his brilliance or his strategy that helped the LTTE to carry out Commando style operations with hundred percent success or the elimination of people within and outside to a well laid out plan. It was the work of the very forces that finally destroyed him, that helped MR in the end. Now they are very busy trying to erase any evidence of their involvement.

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      The exactly what you made clear and several other factors such as rather weakened state of its political outfit, and the LTTE being aparted within their Diasphora did help in the anihilation of them by MR regime.

      My question is: if lanken folks further believe that MR is the only leader to be able to liberate the country from Ltters – as no other leader was able to do so – why the masses are upset today when it goes with lawless behaviours of the youth today – crime rates are on a rise as never before – but ruling govt does nothing or cant take any sustainable steps against them why they cant enforce the rule of law as the average of the country wait to see happening. The latter things should be much more easier than winning a war. Why the same so called great leader is obviously paying a blind eye to all these ?

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        Neel, VP was only a Label for these conspirators who carried on a campaign of war for thirty years successfully. They have dropped the VP horse and are now backing the MR horse, but for how long I do not know. That is why MR is unable to sort out local crime, because he is inefficient and his success at defeating the LTTE was merely because it was planned and executed for him, by these unseen forces.

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          gamini

          “That is why MR is unable to sort out local crime, because he is inefficient”

          Do MR and his cronies seriously want to sort out crime or other violations?

          “defeating the LTTE was merely because it was planned and executed for him, by these unseen forces”.

          Who are these unseen forces?

          What do they want from Sri Lanka?

          Would you not subscribe to the norms that International Community’s primary interest is maintaining regional stability at any costs, in terms of human lives?

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          Native, all these European Countries have their business interest first and hence their alliance to the US. If you remember the time Iraq was invaded and their economy was destroyed, the rebuilding of Iraq was at the command of the US and they decided who should get what and the US was vary of countries that did not approve their decision to invade Iraq. In our case too the US is allowing China to do business with India in the Asian region, because they have a better hold on China. In short the Croocked, Corrupt and the Murderous will all be together as birds of a feather, no matter how much the Decent may object.

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          Gamini is back in cuckoo land :D

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      Gamini, you are right about VP being a puppet, but you are wrong about whose puppet he was! He was a puppet of the LTTE diaspora, who used him as a source for justifying asylum in the west. They fueled the war while living it up in the west, while millions of innocent Tamils and Sinhalese were used as scape goats. Of course the various GoSLs also got in on the act, and as a result, the war created many a millionaire on both sides!

      The diaspora today show as little interest in the well being of those in Sri Lanka as they ever did before. Sadly, the populations of Sri Lanka are so uneducated and ignorant, they continue to be easy pickings for the opportunistic and manipulative diaspora, GoSL, and even the various government and non-government international movements that claim to care so much about them. They are so desperate and vulnerable, they continue to seek help from wolves!

      Funny thing is, with all these movements claiming to care about the people, syou would think Sri Lankans were the luckiest people on earth! Yet they continue to suffer in reality. The fact to the matter is, the true people who care, are generally silenced in no time, so that the people who only pretend to care, can continue to pretend to care, while reaping the rewards of having almost 20 million people to play around with like tools!

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        Navin, VP was only a front and the Tamil Diaspora only supported VP with funds and publicity. The strategies, of where to attack, what to attack and whom to attack was the work of these UNSEEN who even supplied the LTTE with all the weapons through KP earning money. The Tamil Diaspora is widely spread and never had a single body or group to decide on strategy to carry this war for thirty years. The Tamil Diaspora was devided then and are devided even now. In the end it is the same UNSEEN who arranged KP to be rescued and now waiting patiently to take over the North with blessings from MR, while VP and his supporting LTTE cadre were betrayed and sacrificed. I am sorry to say you all are novices in this War Games played by the perpetrators and the intrigue will never be known.

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          Gamini

          While I agree that various international groups, governmental and non-governmental, have a vested interest in the failure of Sri Lanka, I think you are going a step too far in blaming them for the whole mess. Such groups have simply been as opportunistic and irresponsible as our own leaders who we elect or ‘choose’ to follow. If we demand more from our own leaderships, and they were to then try and deliver, you will find the international ‘interest’ groups will have no option but to play ball.

          Essentially, we should blame ourselves first, and try to get our house in order, before complaining about the opportunism of others. It is we who make ourselves targets by behaving in ways that make us vulnerable.

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        It was a symbiotic relationship, Prabha needed diaspora for money, diaspora needed Prabha to create trouble in SL, so that they have a legitimate excuse for their exile existence while milking the host. These guys are parasites, they run from country to country looking for greener pastures do smuggling rackets, insurance scams, drug traffisking and tarnish the image of the entire nation. The trend of jumping ships looking for greener pastures is not new for these people they did it during colonial times too.There are so many diaspora communities all over the world who traveled with their colonial masters even before the independence. Pointing finger at SL is convenient now so that they can keep their people and drug smuggling business on track.

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        Yeah yeah, keep saying this “VP was a puppet”, “diaspora used him for asylum”..Are you a lunatic?Can’t you simply understand if not for the radical policies of Sinhala Chauvinists there will be no VP, is it that hard to understand or is it because you are one of them?

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          You know Jegath,I AM SICK AND TIRED OF THIS “MANTRAM” OF THE TAMILS ABOUT RADICAL POLICIES,PERSECUTION,TAMIL WRIGHTS,SURPPRESSION,SUBJUCATION OF THE TAMILS,SECOND OR THIRD CLASS HUMAN TREATMENT BY THE “”SINGHALA CHAUVINIST”” AND AND AND…. SO FOR ONCE AND FOR ALL COULD YOU (AT LEAST YOU)PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LET ME AND THE REST OF THE WORLD BE EXPLAINED ABOUT THESE THINGS ´POINT BY POINT WITH CONCRETE EVIDENCE,FACTS,NUMBERS AND WHAT NOT TO PROVE YOUR (TAMILS) CLAIMS? SO PLEASE HELP ME BY GIVING THIS INFORMATION SO THAT I CAN SLEEP AT LEAST NOW WITHOUT GOING TO BED THINKING ABOUT HOW CRUEL WE HAVE BEEN TO OUR ´TAMIL BRETHEREN´OVER THE YEARS ??? AND AT THE SAME TIME I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU,NAMELY ´HOW COME THESE TAMILS WHO WENT TO THE WEST ON THE BOGUS ASSYLUM TICKET CLAIMING TO BE PURSECUTED AND WHAT NOT SOON AFTER GETTING THEIR HOST COUNTRY CITIZENSHIP AND THE PASSPORT DID AND DO TO COME TO SRI LANKA AND ENJOY THIS PARADISE OF SRI LANKA AND ITS HOSPITALITY ´´AND RETURN BACK AFTER A WODNERFUL HOLIDAY WITHOUT BEEN PULLED ONE SINGLE HAIR BE IT FROM ANY PART OF THE BODY AND STILL SPREAD RUMORS OF THE NEGATIVE AND THEN AGAIN RETUN YEAR AFTER YEAR FOR THEIR CHEAP BUT SUPER LUXORY HOLIDAYS ???

          “” NOW WHO IS KIDDING WHOM “”

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          You didn’t get my point Jagath, radical policies or not this was coming.

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          Jegath says:

          “Can’t you simply understand if not for the radical policies of Sinhala Chauvinists there will be no VP, “

          You have seen the Sinhala Chauvinists. Wait a second, you haven’t met the members of theocracy yet. Then you will begin to love the Sinhala Chauvinists.

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      What character was he projected as?Stubborn, not willing to sell his soul or his policies, that was his character and it was intact till his demise….To drag a war that too in an area less than the size of New York for three decades, is not something we could judge from outside…This “character” of VP, was gossip created by media and he capitalised on it…

      VP planned the commando styled operations, from Elephant Pass Operation to Ellan Operation everything was done under his guidance, if not for the involvement of the super powers the situation now would be different, but that has nothing to do with his character…

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        If not for the supper powers he would have been dead long before Nanthikadal. They used him, protected him and then dumped him when he was not useful anymore as he grew too big for his own shoes. Murderer himself did not no that both supper powers and the diaspora taking him for a ride. This was what Solheim was telling the US if you don’t get it Mr. Jagath/Siva.

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        Jagath: If not for the supper powers he would have been dead long before Nanthikadal. They used him, protected him and then dumped him when he was not useful anymore as he grew too big for his own shoes. Murderer himself did not know that both supper powers and the diaspora were taking him for a ride. This was what Solheim was telling the US if you don’t get it Mr. Jagath/Siva.

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        Jegath says:

        “Stubborn, not willing to sell his soul or his policies, that was his character and it was intact till his demise….”

        Oh yeah, he forced his unsuspecting young cadres to swallow cyanide when caught, however he surrendered to the brutal armed forces. He was tortured and then killed by his enemies. It was a great policy only the naive and stupid would celebrate.

        He did not sell his soul for he never had one in the first place.

        War is only a tool, that in itself is not a measure of success. Proof of the pudding is in the eating. You write as though you had won the 30 years of war. Wake up man, you lost it to the Sinhala/Buddhists. It is a disgrace from which Tamils will never recover.

        You say:

        ” if not for the involvement of the super powers the situation now would be different,”

        Please grow up. This is exactly what Solheim was saying in his statement that “LTTE’s Understanding Of International Affairs Was “Close To Zero” – Solheim “

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          “Oh yeah, he forced his unsuspecting young cadres to swallow cyanide when caught, however he surrendered to the brutal armed forces.”

          Vedda you are direct witness to VP’s surrender, talk like you saw every second of it…

          Remember VP’s daughter joined the Black Tigers and was a suicide cadre, his son was cadre from Charles Anthony Brigade…No rumors or gossip, ask anyone who escaped from Mullivaikal..

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    IT is very clear how Norway played the double game. India created LTTE. Norway like countries nurtured LTTE. Erik Solheim should be very sad about losing all his effort.

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      Thalaivar

      The various past and present GoSLs also helped create and sustain the LTTE! 2009 was a mere lovers’ tiff! Only, thousands, if not millions of innocent people, had to be dragged into it!

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        It is a sad situation that both the Sinhalese and the Tamils will not identify who the REAL ENEMY is and who the real Benificiary is from all this conflict.

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          gamini

          Who are the real enemies?

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          Native as for the Unseen Forces and the Real Enemy, the Unseen Forces are India who never want to see Sri Lanka independent and Properous, the US and their allies, the British, All the Scandinavian Countires, most of the European Union countries, including Australia, who want to have their stake in Asia for the coming years. If you see their negative approach towards Sri Lanka for War Crimes and silently accomodating Diplomatic postings to Forces personnel it is very clear. Even at the moment when individuals are killed, Democracy flouted and the Judiciary intimidated, what is their reaction? They just turn a blind eye. The real enemy is not the Tamils but all these unseen forces who first helped the LTTE for thirty years and suddenly dropped them and now holding candles to MR.

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          Gamini, real enemy is Congress led by Sonia and their media mafia, under BJP rule, India had the back bone at least to stop selling arms and diplomatic bail out to Sri Lanka, but BJP now is not the same as before, Congress is not a curse for the billion people in India but for Tamils too.

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          Jegath, India nor the South Indian Leadership are genuinely interested in the Tamil cause. They are playing politics with the Tamil Issue for their personal gain. India is on a Geo Political Agenda and not really interested in the Tamils. It is the same with all those countries who were involved including Norway and Solheim.

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      Thalaivar

      “India created LTTE.”

      As far as India was concerned LTTE was the home grown solution to Yankee Dick JR’s infatuation with uncle Sam. LTTE thrived because Sri Lankan state had by then created a fertile ground for the growth of terrorism be it in the North or South.

      “Norway like countries nurtured LTTE.”

      Norway nurtured the LTTE for the final cull. Norway was brought in to facilitate the weakening of LTTE. Sri Lanka went for the cull only after Norway had already fatten the LTTE.

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    Just imagine what kind of government would have been run by this Lunatic Leader,had he formed Eelam by any remote chance

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      Certainly could not be anything worse than what it is, at the moment.

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        Hahaha good one…

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    Thank the spineless so called leaders before MR for continuing the debacle.But now we have a govt that wants to be in power for dynastic reasons and establish a monarchy.The British described the ceylonese male as effiminate and I agree that 95% fall into this category even though they may have male genitalia.We can take on a lot of suffering and not stand up for our basic rights because we were a subjugated race for thousands of years by our own kings who were nothing but ruthless despots we sing praises of.We can only yearn for the rights Westerners have for the last few centuries while we still have the belief that the king has our best interests at heart.

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    Sama Eric sholhim telling something else now!
    He is telling LTTE was not ready to surrender!!
    Wow what a nice U turn. These are the guys who
    promote LTTE.

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    Solhiem,

    Why did it take you a decade to say this?Why not tell this when LTTE was there, possibly after a few talks with them?Solhiem you are the definition of hypocrites mate….

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    “…led to the ‘shocking’ and disastrous decision by the LTTE to finish the war as a conventional fighting force”… says all that is needed who this moron and its gov’t wanted to prevail. What an Jacka..

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    LTTE was not the only tamil militant organisation that was created in the 1960/70’s, it was not created by india but by the progrom’s against tamils in the 1950’s. When Sri lanka refused to talk to Chelvanyakam and stick to agreements made such as the B-C and Later D-C pacts due sinhala buddhist racial superiority (which led to the 1st assasination of a sri lankan leader (Bandranaike). The fact that the JVP armed uprising occured before the LTTE took actions played no role to the violent nature of Sri lankan society. If the JVP did not take up arms, bomb shops, kill opponent sinhalese and then in turn the GoSL did not exterminate this sinhala population would tamils have resorted to taking up arms?
    The Assasination of Bandranaike and the JVP uprising clearly was intersinhala yet it is forgotten by the Sinhala community. It was the sinhalese that taught V.P and other tamil militants that the force of arms is the way the Sinhalese community operates. The only difference between the LTTE and the JVP was that the LTTE lasted for thirty years and the JVP forgot their cause to join the government and now left to disapear. LTTE was a success in its objective of preventing the destruction of tamil culture for thirty years.

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    SL lives have no value.

    Whether it is the suicide bombing or the arial bombing, white vanning or tyre burning.

    Descendants of the architects of the natives extinction, this is what runs in our blood and engulfs our soul.

    Even Buddha’s doctrine has been vandalized, held to ransom.

    We may be able to turn a blind eye on dead Tigers
    If it is solely the ‘Tigers’ targetted
    Obviously not all soldiers were into torture and gory
    But the fellows who were decent are branded ‘traitors’
    The ‘gory’ are rewarded with ‘patriot’ powers.

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    mahadenamutta

    Forget the Kallathoni Demelas.

    Could we discuss about the treatment of my people. What do you have to say about it?

    Are you proud about your track record?

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    The Rajapaksas will continue to reign by default as no credible challenger has yet appeared. The traitor narcissist Fonseka can not beat Mahinda.

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      Moo paththaka indagana kahinawa. Aney pau!

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        The above was posted to see whether he will comment on it. if he does he can not be an American understanding Sinhalese.

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      No one can, brothers have to approve the results.
      No one will, but only family, this no betrayel, this only Lanka lover.
      ‘Traitor’ ballot is not powerful like the ‘patriot’ bullet
      Intl observers mean ‘western-conspiracy’.
      18th ammendment saintly innocence is the optimum heroism.

      Lanka loverz dont got US
      They go to Carlton House
      Not on BMW, but on bull-cart.

      Pasas are traitors, cowards, thieves and terrorists.
      Basil is the traitor.
      Gota is the coward.
      All are thieves and terrorists.

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    Jegath says:

    “VP’s daughter joined the Black Tigers and was a suicide cadre”

    The way her psychopathic father ran LTTE he had no choice but to commit suicide. Perhaps she wanted to end her life prematurely rather than living with a psychopath.

    Jegath
    naively asks:

    “Vedda you are direct witness to VP’s surrender, talk like you saw every second of it…”

    I didn’t but I know a person, who know a person, who in tern knows a person………..who had first hand information on your cowardly leader VP and how he surrendered to the armed forces.

    By the way you too are well informed about VP’s daughter and sons.

    It seems you knew the family very well hence you are in a position to tell me the whereabouts of VP’s wife and his unintelligent chief Pottu amman. Is he still living with terror Gota?

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    Veddha,you say you know a person,who in turn knows a person,who in turn etc etc.Reminds me of one time guys talking about geetha kumaratunge being laid for money,but when you ask anyone do they know anyone who did it, the answer was always like yours.The only way to know what happenned to VP is to talk directly to someone who was there,not to another person who say he got the news from someone who was there.This is the way you get to go on a good merry go round ride in srilanka one of the gossip and rumour monger capitals of the world.

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      shankar

      Don’t worry everything will be disclosed in the fullness of time by those who were party to messy business of covering up the whole story. Be patient you are rest assured that a video treat of capture torture and eventual death of VP is awaiting release. Don’t ask me when. It could be tomorrow, it could be in about 40 years.

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        Veddha,in 40 years time i will be spying on you all from upstairs.I will be watching you while you climb the trees in your amuddi to collect the honey.I might even stir up the kandarni and watch them chase you.

        As for prabha giving himself up he must have been an okma to do that knowing the hatred that the army has for him.Then it must have been a body double as they claim.Prabha was uneducated but he could not be a okma because he built up the LTTE from initially 6 people.

        Only deyyalaato knows what really happenned.Whatever happenned to prabha,he deserved it because he was a pannilaatto crossed with a ikini.The wrath of deyyalaato brought upon him giniraaccaa from the irapojja and even resulted in a blow to the ijjejja by a galracci.

        Before he died he sang a kavitana “eelam,eelam,eelam,engal thangam eelam,naalai varum eelam,engal thangam eelam”.

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    Raja , still dreaming about elam, paw

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