20 July, 2019

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Anti-Halal Campaign More Important Than Casinos – BBS

The Bodu Bala Sena believes its anti-Halal agitation is far more important than taking up the Government’s move to create casino zones in the capital Colombo, the group’s Chief Executive Officer Dilanthe Withanage told Colombo Telegraph.

“The Bodu Bala Sena is against casinos. But we believe that compared with the Halal issue in the country, the casino issue is a minor one,” Withanage in an interview with Colombo Telegraph.

The BBS recommenced its Anti-Halal agitation campaign today,  saying the authorities had cheated them out of a solution to the controversial Islamic labelling in March this year.

Withanage said it believed the bigger issue was that the President’s Provincial Governor of the Western Province Alawi Moulana was requesting all mayors in the province to cooperate and assist with the annual Haj Cattle Sacrifice on a letterhead that features the Dharma Chakra, a Buddhist symbol.

“We are against casinos and we have already had a press conference regarding this. But this Halal issue is much bigger,” Withanage said, adding that the BBS did not want to mix agitation campaigns.

Asked if the anti-Halal resurgence campaign was aimed at distracting from the Government’s controversial casino legitimising legislation, Withanage said the BBS had no idea the Government would move to present the bill the same week the group had organised its campaign.

“Right now, it is the Halal issue that is important,” Withanage said.

The Government last night decided to refrain from tabling the controversial gazette to legalise casinos in Parliament after the opposition led by its Spokesman on Economic Affairs Harsha de Silva kept up a relentless campaign against James Packer’s tax-free casino project and exposed Government moves to surreptitiously introduce the legislation in Parliament. Key Government allies the Jathika Hela Urumaya and the Sri Lanka Muslim Congress also informed President Mahinda Rajapaksa they would not be voting for the controversial legislation, prompting the Government to withdraw the bill for amendment.

We publish below the Governor Alawi Moulana’s letter form Dilanthe’s Faceebok;

 

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    These sons of bitches don’t have the balls to go after the government. Period.

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      Sadly mistaken. For real Buddhists both the topics are more important. BBS is trying to avoid Casino topic as MR & family is more interested in it as for commissions.

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      Point of View,

      BBS, stands for Booru Balu Sena, Donkey-Ass Dog Force of the Government.

      They do not follow Buddhas teachings.

      Their balls are full of donkey puss including their brains.

      They are using Halal as a diversionary tactic to push through the Casinos, so that the MR and Crows can make more money at the expense of the populace.

      The Mahanayakas a re Donkey Asses too. They smply want to keep their Monk Hegemony and collect finds by getting people to do Bodhi Poojas.

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        Buru Amaraya,
        BBS is not taking about ‘Buddhas teachings’ you idiot. They’re talking about the need to rid the ‘halal’ extortion racket and ACJU hegemony from the face of Sri Lanka.

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          I am no muslim-Buddist,Buruwa

          BBS, Buru Balu Sena of the regime is not taking about ‘Buddhas teachings’ you idiot, They are timing the anti Halal Campaign as a distraction of the people, so that the extortion racket of the state and its dogs can maintain the family hegemony and at the same tome amass millions at the expenses of the people.

          Halal is just an excuse for distraction to fool the Sinhala Buddhist fools. Fortunately, even JHU is not fooled.

          I am no muslim Buddist Booruwa, idiot, read below.

          We don’t want to get into slot machines and hard-core gambling because it is addictive and destructive in people’s lives.”

          “Gambling is a scourge on my People…”

          Greg Sarris, Chairman of the Federated Indians of Graton Rancheria.

          Gambling can be a harmless pastime for most, but just like a drug, for some people, gambling becomes an addiction. Estimates put gambling addiction in the United States at 5% of all gamblers. It doesn’t seem like much, until you realize how many people pass through the doors of a casino each and every day. In California, by 2007, there were an estimated 1.2 million gambling addicts in the state, “300,000, or about 30 percent, more than before voters approved Proposition 1A in 2000 to allow Las Vegas-class gambling on Indian lands in California, according to figures compiled over the past decade by the state attorney general’s office and the California Council on Problem Gambling.” (Source: “Tough Odds for Gamblers”, Kevin Fagan, San Francisco Chronicle, December 24, 2007)

          The casino will change our community forever, and not for better. The two quotes above from the Federated Indians of Graton Rancheria’s Chairman Greg Sarris echo our own fears: that gambling will destroy people’s lives and become a scourge on our community. It’s a very real fear: the only thing that seems to increase in casino towns is crime, suicide, addiction and human misery.

          http://www.stopthecasino101.com/id71.html

          http://www.communityresearchpartners.org/uploads/publications/Casino%20Social%20Effect%201-21-10.pdf

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          I AM NO MUSLIM:
          One more point I would like to emphasize is that…it also is under the same Letter head and its Dharma Chakraya that the Govt., ordered the murder of political opponents and anyone who stands in their Great Robbery of the nation.

          Look at the Police dept. They’re all wearing the same Cart Wheel (Dharma Ckakraya) with the Adharma work. Like the Anagarika Dharmapala becoming Adharmapala by campaigning for racism…

          We need more jokes from you guys. Keep on doing it and don’t become tired of it….ha,ha,ha…”Halal is more important than Casinos-BBS”…ha,ha,ha…

          The people of this country irrespective of caste,creed & religion are watching every evil move of you guys…they will respond in kind when the exact time comes….

          Until then, enjoy your evils…..

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        In any list there is an order of priority. So in a similar list certainly halal is no:01 priority than casino. For the requirement of a mere 09% , the halal was forced upon the rest of the 91% who reject halal. This violates all basic human rights of freedom of the individual.
        Therefore it is the no:01 threat facing the 91% non muslims. If halal can be forced upon this way ,sometimes they may force sharia law on all citizens some day in the future. Should we patiently wait for that date or do what ever possible to stop it. During the Moghul regime in India, 4,000 unarmed Buddhist monks and devotees were laughtered like chicken in Bodh Gaya the very birth place of Buddhism. Again at Nalanda Buddhist University 15,000 unarmed Buddhist monks chanting from Buddhist scriptures were slaughtered during moghul regime., Are we Buddhists going to be dumb as dumb idiots and sit sneering ignoring these realities of history. History can repeat, just remember .

        Muslims take pride in saying that the only religious book that did not change or revised is the Holy Kuran. This also implies that their cruelty against other religions , other non muslims have never changed and will never change. This is a fact that all other communities and religions must take to a careful investigation.

        Today Shia and Sunni are slaughtering each other in hundreds daily in middle east, Pakistan,Afganistan. Who can certify that Halal is not the beginning for similer situation in the future of Srilanka.

        People play casino at wish and will of the individual and is not forced upon any body like halal. Even the accompanied evils like prostitution is done at the free will of the individual and not forced upon like halal. So halal is certainly no:01 priority out of all the issues because it is forced upon everybody. Please remember that HALAL is forced up on each and every individual but CASINO and accompanied evils are not forced up on any body. Therefore out of the two VICESS Halal is thousand times more VICIOUS than CASINO. So BoduBalasena is 100% correct .

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        Ela kolla

        Thanks

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      They ARE the government !

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      I suppose you do not believe in democracy. If you do you will accept the government was elected with an overwhelming majority. They have the mandate to do what they are doing. Period.

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        Sri Lankan Democracy is a mockery of Democracy. Democracy means Government ‘By the People, For the People’. The President has bribed MPs elected under the Banner of another Party, with differing Policies into his Fold, with promises of High Office. So what Democracy is this? He keeps the Rural Voters, his Vote Base, Ill-Educated, so he can feed them with his Propaganda.

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          So, you think the educated are the ones who could join few words together to write a sentence in English like you. Otherwise, tell us how would you measure the educated?

          You are talking about the flow of democracy here. Tell us, is it democracy the right to carry arms as in the US? Is it democracy that the US government listen to private telephone conversations? Is it democracy for the US to drone attack afghan civilians? Be rational man, be rational!

          There is no perfect democracy anywhere. Neocons use democracy to undermine the leaders of countries they cannot subjugate or rob oil.

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            Sorry Banda, My comment was a reply to BBS Rep above, on Democracy.

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              Banda = 100% former Leela.

              I have already read the very same comments posted by the ID Leela somewhere else .. :(

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        yes, and you (BBS) have the Right to remain STUPID all your life !

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          you already show your stupitidy

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    Good decision.

    These casinos will come up close to Zahira College and Maradana mosques.

    There is no need for BBS to get excited.

    BBS should actually support these casinos.

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      Casinos, prostitution and wine stores are nothing for us. For us Halal issue is more important. We love any meat as long as they not slaughtered according to halal ways.
      This is the only burning issue we have right now in Asiyawe ashcharyaya.
      Thanks Mr. Gota for making and funding BBS.

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        ‘MODA KAMATA BEHETH NEA’ ! Nominal Budhists making Fools of themselves !

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        Buru FkuShima

        “Thanks Mr. Gota for making and funding BBS.”

        Money to the left of them and money to the right

        Money everywhere they turn from morning to the night

        Only two things count at all from mountain to the sea

        Part of it’s percentage, and the rest is guarantee”¹

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      Finally Fathima will be able to find gainful employment.

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      Fathuma Fukushima,
      Zahira College and Maradana Mosque ? wow thanks for making my school highlighted, and welcome to Casino to Maradana. Hope this will lead to Recruit Ananda, Nalanda, Ananda Balika, Viska, Gotahmi and all Sinhala School as Majority of school in Colombo 10 is Budhist, Thanks god at least we Muslim can be rest a side as from now on Casino’s will start looking at these inncent people and for next 30 years their future is gone. in the other hand, very handful of muslims works in Hotels as Muslims are uneducated as per sinhalese as Muslim dont speak sinhala, so they dont give Hotels Jobs… while Sinhala Mutts forgotten than most of the Muslims speak Tamil, Sinhala, English, Urdu, Hindi, Gujarati, Malay and Arabic… so let Sinhala guys like Fukushima point at my College while we sit and laugh of whom pray for Cow and Bulls.. ahahah :) Stupid Fuckers

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        don’t bother abouth these Whores, buddy ! They are PAATHALA MODApakse’s bitches ! Only third class SLkans support the MODApakses ! Now, even some of them are starting to open their eyes…..

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    BODU BALU SENA

    CLEAN YOUR HOUSE OF ALL THE SHIT

    THE CHRISTIAN MUSLIM AND HINDU REPRESENTATIVES DID NOT JOIN IN THE
    CASINO KINGS BAILA DANA AND ACCEPT MILLIONS WORTH OF GIFTS

    FOR THE MOMENT CONCENTRATE ON SAVING BUDDHISM INSTEAD OF ATTACKING
    MUSLIMS. MUSLIMS CAN SAVE THEMSELVES.

    DO NOT TAKE THE PATIENCE AND RESTRAINT OF MUSLIMS AS A SIGN OF WEAKNESS AND FEAR.

    MUSLIMS WILL GIVE THEIR LIVES FOR THEIR RELIGION.

    NOT LIKE YOU YELLOW ROBED THUGS WHO THREATEN “FAST TO DEATH”
    BUT NEVER HEARD OF ANYONE DYING.

    SL’s baila singing monks: “we ate dhana without knowing it was casino King’s”
    SL’s baila singing monks: “we ate dhana without knowing it was casino King’s”

    (Lanka-e-News-21.Oct.2013, 3.30PM) The Sunday Times newspapers have today publicized with photographs how the sangha super duper monks who parade as sentinels of the Buddhist faith wearing the sacred saffron robes are making a mockery of Buddhism , and how they loaded the prodigious amount of gifts (millions worth bribes) collected from Casino mogul Ravi Wijeratne into their super luxury vehicles, just 40 minutes after holding a media discussion to condemn and denounce openly (though hypocritically) casino and gambling business.

    Herein is that photograph ; this photograph clearly depicts the loading into vehicles of the ‘kappam’ (bribe) or the atapirikara worth many millions gifted by Ravi Wijewardena , the Sri Lanka casino mogul , the local partner of Australian casino ‘King’ James Packer who is seeking to open a casino empire at D R Wijewardena mawatha, Colombo.

    The Sunday Times newspaper had questioned via the phone from a member of this sangha group, Muruthettuwe Ananda Thara , about this betrayal which had been described by many true Buddhists as worse than the historic betrayals of Devadhathaya and Judas.

    Hereunder are the questions asked and the answers given by Ananda Thera :

    Q. Ven. Thera , Did you partake of a lunch after the media briefing on Thursday?
    A. Yes. It was an ordinary dhana
    Q. Who arranged that dhana?
    A. I do not know
    Q. Who invited you to that dhana ?
    A. Bellanwila Wimalarathne Thera invited me.
    Q. Did you all discuss casino then?
    A. Not one word about it was spoken.
    Q. Then in what connection was this dhana given ?
    A. That was a sangika dhana (offerings to monks)
    Q. Did all of you who participated in the media discussion attend the dhana
    A. Only some of us.
    Q. Do you know that businessman?
    A. I have no connections with him.
    Q. You do not know him at all?
    A. I don’t have an accurate identification of him.

    The next culprit monk the Sunday Times had been able to contact was , Professor Bellanwila Wimalaratne Thera.

    ( It is learnt that Madhuluwawe Sobitha Thera the shameless unscrupulous organizer of this bribe taking , has disappeared after Lanka e news exposed these outrageous profane actions of the most bragging least practicing so called Buddhist sentinels .)

    The answers given by Bellanwila Thera to the questions posed to him are as follows :

    Q. Ven. Thera. Did you participate in the special noon dhana after the media discussion on Thursday?
    A. I did receive an invitation for a dhana at a Restaurant but I was not aware of casino connections. We went for the Dhana , and returned after it was over.
    Q. Did the businessman invite you?
    A. The invitation was received from an assistant of the businessman.
    Q. Do you know that businessman ?
    A. We did not know him. We went to the Restaurant had the dhana and we came back.
    Q. Muruthettuwe Ananda Thera said , it is you who invited him. Is that true?
    A. I did not invite Ananda Thera. They had received invitations from the assistant aforementioned.
    Q. When were these invitations received?
    A. About two weeks ago.
    Q. Was the subject of casino discussed within the Restaurant?
    A. No. We did not know the host was connected with casino .
    Q. When you received the invitation didn’t you inquire about the details of the dhana ?
    A. When we receive an invitation we do not inquire deeply – who is extending the invitation or who is giving the dhana . We go for the dhana , take what are given and come back. Some websites are trying to sling mud at us.

    The report of Sunday Times referred to earlier herein fully corroborates the truth of the story published by Lanka e news last Thursday. These fraudulent hypocritical monks who are a disgrace to the true Buddhism and its precepts are now trying to commit another sin by lying profusely ( another evil preached against by Lord Buddha) to cover up their misdeeds, and mislead the people. They are claiming that they did not know who was inviting them to the dhana , and the websites are just trying to sling mud at them.

    Are they so naïve to say in their defense , they would even go to the infernal hell if they are invited to eat a ‘royal dhana’ without inquiring ? They have only proved they have even beaten Devadhathaya in their shameless greed and breed .

    If Maduluwawe Sobitha , Prof. Bellanwila Wimalaratne , Iththepane Dhammalankara , Kotugoda Dhammawasa Muruththetuwe Ananda, and Nanda of a temple in the vicinity of Parliament making up this fraudulent team of monks did not know the individual who made them sit in the Restaurant after washing their feet , it is a most perplexing question , how these monks knew of the Australian casino mogul James Packer? It will be unsurprising if these monks after gambling in their dens pretend they do not know them like how they ate without knowing who gave the dhana.

    It is a pity that these hypocritical sangha members have been able to nurse a conviction based on their despicable confidence that everyone in this country will believe every lie they utter , and the innocent laity are fools.

    While holding the anti casino banner aloft and in front deceitfully , these monks have gone behind and beneath it , and collected filthy lucre from these casino moguls surreptitiously. These acts will certainly go down in history as the biggest trickery and mockery this country’s sangha leaders of this century are resorting to at the expense of their gullible followers and the foolish people of this century.

    Might we mention in the interests of the true Buddhists , Lord Buddha in his teaching has emphasized not to blindly follow just because someone says , that is what Lord Buddha preached , or to slavishly adhere to traditions because they are time honored , rather what is paramount is to use one’s own intelligence and understand religion duly in the right perspective .

    Hence , let us hope the realization will dawn on us as true Buddhists that we need not any longer be deluded by these super duper monks just because they are draped in a saffron robe and indulge in verbiage dins which invariably and finally smell worse than garbage bins .

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      Thank you Ayman , i was also about to mention the same to those B s t d s, Thank u again

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      Ayman brother,

      I agree, not all those in saffron robes are monks. Not all those who take the oaths of monkhood succeed in adhering to the Buddhist precepts. Some fall victim to greed and other forms of sins. I understand your resentment, no issues.

      But we do need to keep our hopes for a better humanity going. On this day and age the ritual slaughter of animals in all its crude form, to sate an imaginary god should be shunned, even by the most ardent of Muslims.

      Really, do all Muslims so blinded by faith, as not to see that animals have feelings too. I don’t believe that.

      Your leaders such as Alawi Moulana should be woken up to the realities of present day social sensitivities. Muslims the worldover have an image issue, they are percieved as merciless and utterly brutal in approach to human life. The above letter by Alawi Moulana will only perpetuate this image.

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        ALAWI MOULANAS, FOWZIES RAUF HAKEEMS, BATHIUTHEEEN ALL HAVE MUSLIM I ALMOST FORGOT THAT LITTLE FAIZER ARE MUSLIMS BY NAME BUT IN PRACTICE THEY HAVE NO RELIGION.

        THEY BY THEIR LOVE FOR THE THIS WORLD AND ALL IT OFFERS DO NOT REALIZE THAT THERE IS AN “AFTERLIFE”

        MUSLIMS ARE PEACEFUL UNLESS THEY ARE PROVOKED AND THEIR RELIGION
        AND RELIGIOUS VALUES NOT RESPECTED.FOR A MUSLIM HIS ENTIRE LIFE
        IS BASED ON THE QURAN AND THE PRACTICE OF THE PROPHET.

        THE WORST MUSLIM WOULD NOT ATTACK A TEMPLE, CHURCH ETC.
        WHAT IS THE PROBLEM MUSLIMS ARE CAUSING IN THIS COUNTRY.?
        DESPITE ALL THE DAMAGE MUSLIMS ARE ACTING WITH PATIENCE AND RESTRAINT SINCE THAT AGAIN IS WHAT WE ARE EXPECTED TO IN
        TIMES LIKE THIS……BUT THEN THAT IS UP TO A POINT.

        IF NOT FOR THE MUSLIM ARAB COUNTRIES. IMPORTING YOUR PRODUCTS AND
        EMPLOYMENT YOU WILL BE IN DEEP SHIT.

        THE HALAL LABEL IS NEEDED FOR SRI LANKA TO SURVIVE.
        WE MUSLIMS CAN DO WITHOUT IT.

        SO I WOULD REQUEST THE THE BODU BALU SENA TO DISBAND OR
        ENGAGE IN SOCIAL SERVICE IN IMPROVING THE LOT OF SUFFERING SRI LANKANS.

        BAN SLAUGHTER-I HAVE NO OBJECTION. BAN FISHING TOO SINCE
        THEY TOO HAVE LIFE.

        BAN MANSLAUGHTER – BRING THE DEATH PENALTY AND HANG MURDERERS DRUG IMPORTERS AND RAPISTS.

        I WONDER HOW MANY MINISTERS AND PARLIAMENTARIANS WILL BE THERE IF THESE LAWS ARE IMPLEMENTED.

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    We are sorry, the comment language is English – CT

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      Hey [Edited out] Gamagem English please, this is no BBS , English Ebglish and English.. or Ingirisy

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        OK, ok we got your point. Now I’ll tell you something about Halal, eh. I can prove that you can make any food halal. You don’t need a halal badge. In short, according to Koran, I say, any food is good for Muslims.

        Its not me who says it but the Koran. Read the verse 5:5, it says; “Today, all good food is made lawful for you. The food of the people of the Scripture (Jews & Christians) is lawful (halal) for you ……” Or mention God’s name on everything you are going to eat. It’ll become haram. See Koran 5:4, & 6:118-119.

        “You shall eat from that upon which God”s name has been pronounced, if you truly believe in His revelation.” 6:118 And “Why should you not eat from that upon which God’s name has been mentioned? He has detailed for you what is prohibited for you, unless you are forced. Indeed, many people mislead others with their personal opinions, without knowledge. Your Lord is fully aware of the transgressors.” 6:119

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    Well done B.B.sena. This thing is bigger issue than casino.

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      Tissa Withana,

      How much was your Commission?

      Here is a bigger issue than Casions and Halal.

      There ar eMonks running Amok!

      Child Abuse by a Monk in Habaraduwa

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNSC93mPs4I

      Uploaded on May 29, 2010
      She sent her grandson to school with the idea of providing him with proper education to make him a good person. The Buddhist monk in charge of the temple asked her to send the child to the temple and she sent him there because they were poor. There was no possibility for them to pay the money for tuition fees. That was the reason why they sent the boy to the temple school.When the child began to refuse going to the temple school so adamantly, grandmother had to look for the reason. It was then only that she discovered that the child who was sent to learn good behavior, ethics and Buddha’s Dharma from the monk had in fact been abused by the monk.

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      If not for Halal Standards certification, your people will will be eating all types of meat like apes, monkeys, dogs, cat, snakes and even rat meat, just like in certain other countries. Who is there to monitor the source of the meat? Do you think ISO or SLS will care two hoots, although they will certify conformity their standards, to anything and everything after charging large sums of money for the service. They only want your money You already relish the flesh of swine which in any case does not come under Halal (permissible) standards. You also think Casinos are good for this country. Wait till you see the devastation the Casino culture brings to ruin the youth of the nation, the country’s much hyped cultural heritage, destroying the moral and social fabric that binds and holds us all together. You certainly have got your country’s best interest all mixed up. BBS monks are just a bunch of jokers. Not the ideal leaders to be followed. They will only take you for a ride up the garden path.

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        Marwan brother,

        You have a strong antipathy towards BBS. So do many other commenters in CT. Though I disagree with you, you are welcome to your opinion.

        A reliable Islamic scholar told me even swine meat is permissible for a Muslim, if he is starving and facing imminent death. I am no authority; perhaps you can enlighten me on this Hadith.

        When it comes to academia, all flesh of animals is similar in nature. According to you, eating apes, monkeys, dogs, cat, snakes and rat meat is somehow below human dignity and to be avoided. Conversely eating Muslim slaughtered cow meat is good or of a higher statute. I do not understand what you are driving at. According to the same reliable Muslim source I am made to understand that cows were not known to Arab Muslims of the time of Mohammad. Not even pigs. They were more familiar with Camels, sheep and goats. The anti pig sentiments were derived from your belief in Abraham as a fellow prophet of Islam. Once again I wish to reiterate I am no scholar of any religion. I am just a laymen in Buddhism.

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          BBS Rep:-
          If you look at the foot wear these ‘Men in Saffron Robes’ are wearing in the Photograph, you will see that they are not Bata Rubber, but made of the best leather.
          Are you sure that this leather is not Halal, and no animals were killed to manufacture them?
          Why is Meat as food, the only concern? The Buddha asked us to be Mindful in everything we do, even in the Clothes and Shoes we wear. Don’t we have to boil and kill millions of Silkworms to make one Silk Saree or Ariya Sinhala Suit of Silk!

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            FORGET, THE FOOTWEAR. HOW ABOUT THE SKINS FOR DRUMS WHICH IS
            SO IMPORTANT IN THEIR PERAHERAS AND PINKAMAS???

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          Thanks Rationalist for your observation.

          BBS Rep, to answer your quest for knowledge, this may not be the appropriate forum as it entails a deeper understanding of Islam and its teachings, however i give you my best shot, which may not be the most perfect response however.

          Our Holy Quran is a divine revelation from God Himself, revealed to and through our Holy Prophet (Peace and Blessing be on him – PBOH) for you, me and the whole of humanity. Pls read Ayman’s post below in detail of the Quranic revelation regarding permissible food for Muslims. Read Quran 2:173 to get your answer to – when does swine flesh or carrion meat becomes permissible to eat – which is only permissible under extreme circumstances. So there you have it. I will not add to it as it is self explanatory by itself. This situation hardly arises in modern times, where food scarcity is quite a rare phenomenon in any place on the planet.

          Regarding eating animals which you suggestively qualify as being ‘below human dignity’, the reason is far from it. It is more to do with the animals intelligence to be selective in food choice, pick up and use ‘hands’ to feed itself like humans do. These closely represent human qualities and are best avoided for human consumption. Certain animals in Islamic traditions are mentioned or have a particular view attached to them, you can read it under Wikipedia ‘Islam and Animals’ to get a better understanding. Of course, there are guidelines for us to live by and we hold onto them steadfastly. There are no camels in SL as it was in the Prophets period in the land of his birth, Saudi Arabia, and as the next best alternate, is cattle that we slaughter for meat and hide. It is massive business in USA and UK and India (biggest exporter of beef in Asia), where all parts of the slaughtered animal (apart from its meat sold for human consumption) are used in everyday products which taken for granted luxuries, like posh leather car seats, perfumes (if only they knew its source), soaps, toiletries, tennis racket guts, etc. In truth, denying animal slaughter to keep BBS happy will put SL way back to 18th century.

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          GO BACK TO THAT RELIABLE ISLAMIC SCHOLAR. I DO NOT WISH TO START ANOTHER DEBATE WITH THE BBS REP

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      WHAT ABOUT THE PROBLEMS IN THE MAHABODHI SOCIETY AND ANAGARIKA DHARMAPALA TRUST AND ALL THAT HAS BEEN PLAYED OUT.

      CLEAN THE BLOODY SHIT ON YOUR DOORSTEP.

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    MUSLIMS HAVE LIVED IN THIS COUNTRY FOR CENTURIES WITHOUT THIS
    “HALAL CERTIFICATION” IT SHOULD BE STOPPED IMMEDIATELY I AGREE.
    MUSLIMS ARE NOT THE LOSERS BUT IT IS THIS COUNTRY THAT WILL LOSE SINCE
    MUSLIM COUNTRIES WILL PUT AN EMBARGO ON IMPORTS FROM SRI LANKA.
    THIS ANTI HALAL MOVEMENT IS BEING MADE TO PROVOKE MUSLIMS.

    I AM SURE THAT THE MAJORITY OF SINHALA BUDDHISTS WHO PRACTICE BUDDHISM OF LORD BUDDHA WILL NOT APPROVE OF THIS.

    WELL, IF ROUSED THERE WILL BE VIOLENCE AND TO KNOW WHAT WILL FOLLOW JUST LOOK AROUND THE WORLD.

    MOSSAD IS HERE!!!! YOU ARE JUST INVITING OTHER TERROR OUTFITS
    IF THE BLOODY BULL SHITTERS THINK THAT THEY CAN GET AWAY THEY ARE SADLY MISTAKEN.

    WIPE OUT THE 2 MILLION MUSLIMS BUT THERE WILL BE STILL 1.9 BILLION AROUND THE WORLD. YOU BUDDHISTS WILL BE TARGETTED AROUND THE PLANET.
    YOU WILL HAVE TO GO TO THE MOON AND BE HAPPY WHERE IT WILL BE POYA EVERYDAY.

    USE YOUR BRAIN IF YOU HAVE ONE.

    THE QURAN AND HADITH IS CLEAR- NO AMBIGUITY AT ALL

    The Quran and Hadith about Halal and Haram Food

    Translated verses of the Quran

    “O ye who believe! Eat of the good things wherewith We have provided you, and render thanks to Allah if it is (indeed) He whom ye worship” (2:172).

    “He hath forbidden you only carrion, and blood, and swineflesh, and that which hath been immolated to (the name of) any other than Allah. But he who is driven by necessity, neither craving nor transgressing, it is no sin for him. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful” (2:173).

    “O ye who believe! Fulfill your undertakings.The beast of cattle is made lawful unto you (for food) except that which is announced unto you (herein), game being unlawful when ye are on pilgrimage. Lo! Allah ordaineth that which pleaseth Him” (5:1)

    “Forbidden unto you (for food) are carrion and blood and swine-flesh, and that which hath been dedicated unto any other than Allah, and the strangled, and the dead through beating, and the dead through falling from a height, and that which hath been killed by (the goring of) horns, and the devoured of wild beasts, saving that which ye make lawful (by the death-stroke), and that which hath been immolated unto idols.

    And (forbidden is it) that ye swear by the divining arrows. This is an abomination. This day are those who disbelieve in despair of (ever harming) your religion; so fear them not, fear Me! This day have I perfected your religion for you and completed My favour unto you and have chosen for you as religion Al-Islam. Whoso is forced by hunger, not by will, to sin: (for him) lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful” (5:3)

    Halal and Haram Food“They ask thee (O Muhammad) what is made lawful for them. Say: (all) good things are made lawful for you. And those beasts and birds of prey which ye have trained as hounds are trained, ye teach them that which Allah taught you; so eat of that which they catch for you and mention Allah’s name upon it, and observe your duty to Allah. Lo! Allah is swift to take account” (5:4)

    “This day are (all) good things made lawful for you. The food of those who have received the Scripture is lawful for you, and your food is lawful for them. And so are the virtuous women of the believers and the virtuous women of those who received the Scripture before you (lawful for you) when ye give them their marriage portions and liven with them in honour, not in fornication, nor taking them as secret concubines. Whoso denieth the faith, his work is vain and he will be among the losers in the Hereafter” (5:5).

    “And eat not of that whereon Allah’s name hath not been mentioned, for lo! it is abomination. Lo! the devils do inspire their minions to dispute with you. But if ye obey them, ye will be in truth idolaters” (6:121).

    From the Hadith

    -On the authority of Abu Huraira (may Allah be pleased with him), who said: The Messenger of Allah said: “Allah the Almighty is good and accepts only that which is good. Allah has commanded the Faithful to do that which He commanded the Messengers, and the Almighty has said: “O ye Messengers! Eat of the good things, and do right..” (Quran 23:51). And Allah the Almighty has said: “O ye who believe! Eat of the good things wherewith We have provided you..” (2:172). Then he mentioned [the case of] a man who, having journeyed far, is disheveled and dusty and who spreads out his hands to the sky [saying]: O Lord! O Lord!-while his food is unlawful, his drink is unlawful, his clothing unlawful, and he is nourished unlawfully, so how can he be answered!” (Muslim).

    -On the authority of Abu Ya’la Shahddad ibn Aus, the Messenger of Allah said: “Verily Allah has prescribed proficiency in all things. Thus, if you kill, kill well; and if you slaughter, slaughter well. Let each one of you sharpen his blade and let him spare suffering to the animal he slaughters” (Muslim).

    -In an incident narrated by Rafi’ bin Khadij, the Prophet told Muslims who wanted to slaughter some animals using reeds, “Use whatever causes blood to flow, and eat the animals if the Name of Allah has been mentioned on slaughtering them…” (Bukhari).

    -Narrated Abu Thalaba: Allah’s Messenger forbade the eating of the meat of beasts having fangs (Bukhari).

    -Narrated Ibn Umar: The Prophet cursed the one who did Muthla to an animal (i.e. cut its limbs or some other part of its body while it is still alive (Bukhari).

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      Ayman, Good post. May your efforts we amply rewarded.

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      Ayman, What the hell wrong with you? let them Stop…. who cares? we see that Cargills still didnt stop Halal mark, Munchee, Maliban and rest as they dont care,,, dont waste your damn time with these Monks as they are homosexuals

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      THIS ANTI HALAL MOVEMENT IS BEING MADE TO PROVOKE MUSLIMS – well said – so those pushing this Halal Certification also must understand the gravity of this issue & should forget about it, we don’t want time and again, BBS creating problems and disturbances.

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    I myself believe that Halal Certification problem is more important than the Casino Act. Casinos bring income and employment. BBS correct regard to the priorities to the problems of the country. we must take on to the streets against slaughtering of all animals including Human beings. Casinos if regulated well do not harm the country. It will bring MOney and Tourists to the country.

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      @wasanthi the illiterate fool,do you know or have any idea that casions bring in prostitutes (many are trafficked from poor villages of China)and drugs not to mention gambling away their hard eanred money whle the wife and children starve in many cases which in turn destroy many many sri lankan families is that what you want for the so called ‘Buddhist country’?

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      Even prostitution can bring in a lot of money to support the cuntries economy.

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        Lankaputhra, Start with your Mother then !

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        “can bring in a lot of money to support the cuntries economy.”

        You mean 10 ton frogs in yellow robes for the satisfaction of the darling Japenese Zumo’s.

        However, you may have to first have to put the frogs in a washing machine because they are full of king pong.

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      You hardly know the societal ramifications that Casino business generates to service its clientele who come with all that sullied wealth? They come for their own entertainment at the expense of our country’s culture, heritage and well being. The rich will become super rich, whilst our middle income and poor become still poorer. Add to that the corruption of our youth with high class pimps and prostitution galore, including glitzy playboy type foreign magazines to corrupt young minds. There is nothing to stop the invasion, and you like it better than the halal label on food consumed by Muslims in adherence to their religious tenets. Girl, you must be one of a kind.

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        Marwan my friend,

        Glitzy Playboy and Penthouse magazines were circulating in Sri Lanka even before you were born. They do so to this day. Today DVDs of every pornographic form is available to almost every child in Sri Lanka, leave alone adults. How about the internet. No holds barred there. Where in Sri Lanka or the world do you live in???

        Bucket shops run mostly by your Muslim brothers took bets on London horse races even during the times of your great grandfather. It goes on to this day. They never paid a cent in taxes either. At least the Casino will function out in the open. Even so we the BBS are against it.

        If you believe that Sri Lanka did not have prostitution since time immemorial, or in Mao’s China or Islamic Iran you are ill informed. As for Sri Lanka, try asking any taxi driver whether in Colombo or Kandy or Galle about this and they will open your eyes. With prostitution come pimps as well.

        Such socially culpable activities have been part of Sri Lankan culture and heritage since time immemorial.

        BBS are trying to do something to better the situation. However it will be unrealistic for any organisation, leave alone BBS, to actually endeavour to stamp out prostitution, bribery, gambling and such. These are activities that are part and parcel of the flawed human gene.

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          I am not disputing any of the socio-economic aberrations that you describe, but only stressing the associated negative fallout the Casino culture could bring to an already saddled society. Have you ever read or reviewed the surveys of such impacts in already flourishing Casino cultures from around the world? You are so far removed from it, judging from the instances you quote to equate and justify this alien culture. BBS is not a holy alliance by any stretch of the imagination. They are a bunch of Temple militants or what we call ‘riff-raffs’ in saffron robes, masquerading as holy men. They can be bought over for a few nickles and dimes, or a good booze and a woman to hang-out with, or foreign escapade, or sell their car permits and load-up their bank balances. After all they all human and all have the same weakness of the flesh, although they project a different image to the public. They speak lies like the politicians. They can easily be brainwashed with misconceptions and fooled easily to say the wrong things at the wrong time. Happened so many times already and we just laughed out loud and enjoyed ourselves at their expense. You guys have really gone off the rail and are in limbo. The government is using you guys to do all its dirty work, whilst you oblige for a few perks. So go sell your fish somewhere else.

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          BBS REP,

          MUSLIMS CHRISTIANS AND HINDUS CAN LOOK AFTER THEIR RELIGION.

          BEFORE YOU THE J.H.U. WAS CREATED AND YOUR MONKS CAME TO
          PARLIAMENT TO PROTECT AND SAVE BUDDHISM.. HOW CAN THEY SAVE BUDDHISM, WHEN THEY COULD
          NOT SAVE THEIR OWN “VERY PRIVATE PARTS” FROM OTHER BUDDHISTS IN
          PARLIAMENT.
          DAYA GAMAGE GET THIS INTO “GUINNESS BOOK OF RECORDS”

          JUST CLEAN THE SHIT AND ALL WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THOSE LITTLE MONKS IN YOUR TEMPLES. THEN I WILL RESPECT YOU AS A BUDDHIST.

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      Wasanthi,

      We don’t want to get into slot machines and hard-core gambling because it is addictive and destructive in people’s lives.”

      “Gambling is a scourge on my People…”

      Greg Sarris, Chairman of the Federated Indians of Graton Rancheria.

      Gambling can be a harmless pastime for most, but just like a drug, for some people, gambling becomes an addiction. Estimates put gambling addiction in the United States at 5% of all gamblers. It doesn’t seem like much, until you realize how many people pass through the doors of a casino each and every day. In California, by 2007, there were an estimated 1.2 million gambling addicts in the state, “300,000, or about 30 percent, more than before voters approved Proposition 1A in 2000 to allow Las Vegas-class gambling on Indian lands in California, according to figures compiled over the past decade by the state attorney general’s office and the California Council on Problem Gambling.” (Source: “Tough Odds for Gamblers”, Kevin Fagan, San Francisco Chronicle, December 24, 2007)

      The casino will change our community forever, and not for better. The two quotes above from the Federated Indians of Graton Rancheria’s Chairman Greg Sarris echo our own fears: that gambling will destroy people’s lives and become a scourge on our community. It’s a very real fear: the only thing that seems to increase in casino towns is crime, suicide, addiction and human misery.

      http://www.stopthecasino101.com/id71.html

      http://www.communityresearchpartners.org/uploads/publications/Casino%20Social%20Effect%201-21-10.pdf

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      WASANTHI,
      COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT YOUR PROBLEM IS WITH HALAL ?
      WELL CASINOS WILL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET GOOD MONEY AS A SEX WORKER.

      YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT ANIMAL NOT HUMAN SLAUGHTER.
      WHAT ABOUT FISH? YOU ARE BLOODY HYPOCRITES.
      ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT YOUR FAT MONKS ARE VEGETARIANS?

      YOUR BUDDHIST COUNTRY DERIVES ALL ITS REVENUE FROM ALL THAT LORD BUDDHA
      SHUNNED.

      FIRST YOU ARE GOVERNED BY LIARS CROOKS AND MURDERERS

      IF NOT FOR DUTIES ON LIQUOR AND TOBACCO AND OF COURSE SWEEPS,YOU WILL BE IN DEEP SHIT.

      AGAIN YOUR WOMEN BRING IN THE BILLIONS OF HALAL DOLLARS WORKING AS
      MAIDS ON MUSLIM HOMES. MUSLIMS ARE A PROBLEM BUT YOU HAVE TO GO AND WORK AS SERVANTS IN THEIR HOMES TO KEEP YOUR FAMILIES GOING,BOTH HERE
      AND ABROAD

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      What Tourists? According to the latest statistics, the majority of tourists are Indian, who wrap up the morning buffet from the hotel, for their lunch and dinner. They also empty the tissue boxes and toilet paper in the hotel bathrooms, etc, etc,. Ask any tour bus driver!
      So they only pay for their flights and accommodation.

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    Balu Bala Sena has no right to fight against Halal or any other matter. Buddha never spoke about Halal. Balu Bala Sena has no right to step on other religions toes. If they carry out any protest against this religious event then the Government of Sri Lanka has to be blamed.

    Pakistan,Bangladesh, Maldives and Malaysia (Muslim majority countries) should boycott the Commonwealth Conference to be held in Sri Lanka as this act supported by the Government of Sri Lanka is a violation of Commonwealth Principles.

    It is time for the Sri Lankan Government to charge Bodu Bala Sena under prevention of terrorism act as they are creating communal disharmony.

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      Right on Park !

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      Absolutely Park, just keep it coming.

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    The not so democratic racist republic of rajapakistan.

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    Gota determines what you protest against !

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    Ah the BBS at it again and say that the Casino is less important than Halal of course its true,after all without casinos where they go for GAMBLING,SEX AND ALCOHOL ALL IN ONE PLACE ! (see thats the way of Buddhist life and tradtions that the likes of BBS rep,K A Sumansekera (Leela) and Jim Softly and all other ‘coolies’ want to save.

    With such acts you dont need external enemies to destroy Sri lanka as the BBS is doing a wonderful job!

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        Ela kolla

        Thanks a lot

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          :)

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        ella kolla is [Edited out]

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    BBS …you never had credibiity ,,,,but now you have lost the faith of few hardliners who may have supported you

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    The Govt activates the BBS and diverts attention away from the Casino’s to our Muslim Brothers and Sisters. A switching tactic.

    The Packers activate ” Cricket ” to pacify the Holy Citizens in the Holy Land.

    The Casino act will pass. The non-patriotic protesters will be shot.

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      Vishwajit Thambi,

      You have a good imagination. Keep imagining.

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        I will, Thank you Anna.

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          Lets have pork chops of the Porkstani American bbs rep.We could spice it with some south american piri piri and wash it down with red wine.
          In the 70’s we had a guy who made goods named “made by usa” finally the yanks got him.

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      viswajith,
      See the timing of the halal issue, of the golayas with goats and rajapass backing.
      They want to plunder money so they divert the issue from the casinos to an insignificant food issue of the minority.
      Let the muslims eat ONLY HALAL FOOD.THAT IS THEIR RIGHT>Human rights defenders please note.
      why are the BBS worried, ARE THE BBS NOT EATING FLESH OF ANIMALS <WHY THEY TAKE EVEN MEAT OF DOGS HORSE TALAGOYAS RATS .
      To the BBs goats of rajapakistan all vices coming out of the casinos are HALAL food for their living.
      Killing humans is better for the BBs and sinhalabuddhist than giving halal food for the people . HALAL means "THAT WHICH IS PERMITTED" Is killing of humans permitted in any religion?

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        A diversion indeed.

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      “The Packers activate ” Cricket ” to pacify the Holy Citizens in the Holy Land.”

      Grantland Rice For when the One Great Scorer comes to write against your name…..

      (from his poem “Alumnus Football”) once writing in his column:

      “Money to the left of them and money to the right

      Money everywhere they turn from morning to the night

      Only two things count at all from mountain to the sea

      Part of it’s percentage, and the rest is guarantee.”

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        Thank you for sharing this piece.

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    BBS bunch of Homo,

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    Sad to see the true face of BBS, its very clear they are dancing to the tune of the government and this is just another distraction move to put casino issue out of peoples view. we should boycott these cowards.

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      kusun,

      “Sad to see the true face of BBS, its very clear they are dancing to the tune of the government “

      What is sad about it. That is the truth and true face of BBS. Nothing to do with Buddhism. All politics and power to fool the Sinhala Buddhist Fools.

      By the way BBS stands for Booru Balu Sena, Donkey-Ass Dog force of the Govt.

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    The timing is good. I hope they show their ugly bigoted ways during CHOGM, so that the representatives of other nations can see first hand the crimes and attacks against minorities and places of worship, condoned and blessed by the rajapaksa regime. Or better still, hope this will give them reason to boycott the rajapaksa’s circus.

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      I hope so too!

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      Count me on this too, Dhaksha.

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    Many companies have retained the Halal logo because they need to sell their products. Muslim consumers are a major segment of the market. Middle East countries are a major export market.

    Gandasara and company need not buy halal food. Cant they eat vegetables as ordained in Buddhism. Whats the problem for these rapscallions? Cant they buy any other food? Aney Paw unta badagini.

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      Well said Safa.

      First it was that JU was making millions by issuing Halal certificates, and the money earned allegedly channeled to international Muslim terror outfits. Now that it is issued free, more and more businesses wanting to cash in, want the logo on all of their products and they are simply thriving, since the demand is so much greater now. The ‘mighty’ BBS monks realize they are running behind a mirage. They have no control of the situation. Now they seem to be more isolated and far removed from their own people. Desperate times need desperate measures, and thus they try to maintain the momentum through this escapade. This is just a waste of money and resources. We will just enjoy the fun at their expense. No one takes them seriously anymore.

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    so the Balu bala sena can build a temple inside the casino and have some fun with strippers

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      Ela kolla

      Thank you very much

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    Yes, Yes our Gaanu 5 Nanasara Bebadu Balu sena is correct. Halal is the biggest burning problem in Sri Lanka now. If they solve this problem then only we can freely breath.

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      YOU CANNOT BREATHE FREELY NOW WITH THE GAS LEAKS. NOW DONT BLAME MUSLIMS AND HALAL.

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    Does our priest aware major gambling in Sri Lanka or if not ‘Lottery in various way how
    mislead general public and conduct with huge publicity. There are people who keep
    buying lottery tickets but rather emptying their pockets never gained. Has any gambling
    like that in any country ..?? Only Sri Lanka has Lottery selling board and I don’t think any
    other country is having this government institution..!! You just sit down and watch all TV
    channels , specially government Rupavahini from 9.30-10.00 in night you’ll see many
    variety of Lotteries how misleading people.

    Without stopping this major gambling , no point of avert ‘Casinos coming here..Our priest
    must understand this articulated gambling how spoils society..

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      “….Does our priest aware ..”

      they are not priest they are thugs
      the problem is people like you still think that they are priest

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    Rajavassas, Bebu Balu Sena and rest of all the clowns that support the existing regime stinks worese than human feces. Muslim idiots and anyother races who does not have respect to other religions are dogs and should be secretly bumped off from this planet earth without barking.

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      Ideal name for you. See, you selected it yourself. Not to be taken seriously. Your comment a waste of time, bandwidth and space. Why don’t you wear the Crown of the Clown, before you go bumping off people (Muslims, I daresay) from planet earth secretly in the dark. You Court jester.

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      MUSLIMS NEVER INSULT OTHER RELIGIONS. YOU 370 MILLION BUDDHISTS ON THIS
      PLANET CANNOT WIPE OUT THE BILLIONS OF MUSLIMS.YOU ARE AN IDIOT.

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    bbs beware you will have to put your amude and run when we come after you
    gnanasara.

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    Well Done BBS, you will see soon Arabs flocking to Sri Lanka in the name of Casino and Protitution and then conver them to Islam :) ahhah. Keep it up, we like to see Budhist go down. bye bye.

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    Arrest the BBS out on the streets,transport them back to their respective temples.Make them stay indoors and preach the dhamma.Make sure the only time the yellow robed priest can be seen is after 5.00pm
    with their bowl asking for alms.hen get back into the temples.

    They seem to want to be in the limelight- they also look very well fed.
    Too much energy to expend only inside the temple.

    So what do we call the appearance of yellow robes on the march against
    Halal and muslims?
    Racism or a march forward to Racial Harmony.

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    Why no one has thrown cow dung on these Gon Bala Sena? If a Sinhalese person can hit a Prime Minister of a country, why another Sinhalese Buddhist person cannot throw cow dung on these stupids.

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    YES THESE ARE BASTARDS CLAD IN YELLOW ROBES. IN THE DAY THEY CALL THEMSELVES MONKS BUT AFTER DARK THEY WEAR DENIMS AND HAUNT THE NIGHT CLUBS WITH WOMEN AND LIQUOR.

    THEY ARE BRINGING DISCREDIT TO THE LORD BUDDHA. HA HA HA WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE A BUDDHIST NATION….. BUT DO THESE YELLOW ROBED BASTARDS PROCLAIM PEACE, LOVE, HUMILITY, COMPASSION …. NOT IN THE LEAST.

    THIS BORU BALU SENA IS SPONSORED BY THE MANIAC DEFENCE SECRETARY GOTHA(BHAYA) RAJAPAKSE, THAT IS WHY THEY HAVE ALL THE SUPPORT OF THE MURDEROUS GOVERNMENT.

    THIRD GRADE BASTARDS.

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    I have many wonderful Buddhist friends who are disgusted by the behavior or certain monks. These monks bring shame to proper Buddhists
    – They cheat the people and pretend to be religious
    – They lie about everything even when its blatantly obvious
    – They associate with all sorts of characters
    – They accept huge bribes(gifts)from criminal and shady characters
    – They go around in luxury cars
    – They cause racial hatred among the uneducated population
    – Etc etc etc
    Why do Buddhists and the sanga allow these saffron clad thugs to remain as monks and continue to bring shame to Buddhism. They should be de-robed and kicked out for being a disgrace to Buddhism.
    We need a Sri Lankan Spring or facebook revolution to rid Sri Lanka corrupt politicians, racists and extremists.

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    Leaving aside the antipathy towards BBS for a moment, can people look at the contents of the letter and see what kind of nonsense it is? It refers to “cattle slaughter meritorious activity”! What kind of merits can one get by slaughtering animals? Irrespective of the religion, people should think for themselves as to what is right and what is not.

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      WHY bring it up now Genius ? It has been going on for decades ! Completely foolish political distraction by your third clas PAATHALA MODApakse & co. !

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        You know what, there are so many other things that have also being going on for not just decades but millennia!

        How about prostitution, shitting in the forests, bali and thovil as treatments for illnesses, human sacrifice of various sorts (e.g. sathi puja), rule by kings, etc. etc. shall we put those also into practice as well? Moron.

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      Very True Ruwan, why bring it up now? Animal slaughter has been going on for ages from time immemorial. Early people survived on hunting and slaughter for food and skin for protection from the weather, making water bags, shoes and bones for ornaments. Even Lord Buddha is supposed to have partaken a meal of animal flesh. How come this is possible if no animal was killed? You are probably living on another planet if you have never had an egg in your life, or killed a mosquito or even a cockroach in your life. Leave aside that, even a hookworm living on your guts to save you from ill-health and dying? You don’t call that killing, or ‘is it putting to sleep’ in a metaphorical sense? Humbugs and hypocrites is what we call people like you. Your own religion of Buddhism has become adulterated with innovations, which the Great Saint did not teach. People have changed it to suit their whims and fantacies, and as time goes by it will only become more distorted. So you keep wondering, how come these thoughts never crossed your mind.

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        Were you there when Buddha was partaking this particular meal? The same people who say Buddha ate meat also say that he was able to fly into the heavens to preach to the gods, that he was able to project fire to chase the devils and a snake provided him shelter from rain and more! Do you believe those too? If not, then why the former? Why should we believe one anymore than the others?

        I’m sorry to burst your bubble but I live in this plant and have my feet firmly on the ground. Go read what I said again and try to understand it if you can.

        What has this got to do with people distorting their religion? Did I say that hasn’t happened or has not happened let alone say that it was right for people to do that?

        Whatever religion one practices, all people should subscribe to a basic set of principals that acceptable to all people and are in sync with the wider notions of what is right/wrong in society. Commonsense comes first. Religion comes next. It cannot be the other way around.

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      Navin, Let me use you own argument, to explain why Muslims think it is a meritorious act

      “Leaving aside the antipathy towards animal slaughter”, we believe that the merit accrues by providing food for the poor”. Hope this explains!

      While you make be appalled by all this, killing Animals is a trillion dollar industry and is a worldwide phenomenon. More meat per capita (per person per year) is consumed in Buddhist countries like Thailand Laos and Cambodia than in Sri Lanka. How come if Muslims are this heartless we are still among the last 5 countries ?

      One question begs a clear answer. Are you against meat consumption or are you against killing of animals in a particular way? Because there are two arguments here, first, if are you against killing in all its known forms and wish to refrain from eating meat, your campaign should not be against the method of killing! Or, if you are not against eating meat, but are against killing in a particular manner and are ok with other methods, then you should campaign on bringing in more humane methods of killing! Muslims have no issues with non-Halal meat being available for the consumption of Buddhists!

      Do you know that Sri Lankans eat 30 Million Kgs of beef every year? Surely not all of this is eaten by Muslims. The truth is that many find it fashionable to bash Muslims, while eating all the meat they can get their hands on. Protests against killings are therefore pure bigotry by a bunch of humbugs.

      Naturally, Muslims find it difficult to understand why the full force of Buddhist’s “antipathy” against Muslims method of slaughter when there are many choices available to Buddhists!

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        I’m not debating here whether people should or should not eat meat. What I’m pointing out is the fallacy that killing an otherwise harmless animal can be a meritorious activity. What kind stupid insane nonsense is this?

        Please do not bring in the poor to justify your dirty deeds. If your hands are clean there is no need to involve other people to prove that.

        If you want to eat meat. Eat meat. But do not believe that it is OK to kill animals for this purpose. Killing harmless animals is never OK irrespective of the purpose, method and animal being killed. Do not be under the misguided belief that it is alright or worst a holly meritorious activity!!! Which is exactly what this letter says.

        This has nothing to do with any particular religion. In this day and age people should be able to think for themselves and decide what is right and wrong, rather than blindly follow every line in some holly book that nobody knows who wrote when where or why.

        I see no difference in your believe that killing animals is OK provided you feed the meat to the poor and that despicable executioner of Saudi Arabia who believes chopping peoples’ heads is gods work!

        If you want to feed the poor, there are other ways to feed people that doesn’t involve butchering countless goats and cattle. People should realize food available in the regions where Islam originated is very different from food available in this country. So just because the holly book says feed the poor with meat, Musliems here do not need rush to the butcher to feed the poor.

        You should be able to use your brain to take the essence from the holly text and apply it rightly instead of verbatim.

        Don’t hold the poor, the gods and religions responsible for your own inability to think.

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          Getting flustered aren’t we Navin?

          My capacity to think has nothing to do with your inability to reason. You berate me for arguing that killing animals for food is not the exclusive preserve of Muslims, but a worldwide phenomenon.

          We can debate matters of fact but there is no point debating matters of perception. What is cruel and inappropriate for consumption as food is perception. You may consider eating meat as cruel. Biologically, man has the capacity to consume meat. Islam recognizes this fact. Therefore please don’t blame Islam for your faulty logic.

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            As I said before, if you want to eat meat, eat meat. I really don’t care. Its your business.

            However do not try to show to the world that is a holly meritorious activity. I don’t care what anybody’s god says about killing animals, I know for sure that its a cruel act.

            I don’t need Budda to attain enlightenment to tell me that.

            Its not a matter of perception, it is a fact.

            While animals are raised and slathered for food in large scale in the west do they consider it some holly meritorious activity as this letter implies? That’s my point. How much more do I have labour to make you understand this?

            Where in the west is animals slaughtered on religious grounds, to please/or of fear of the gods or to attain merits or better after life or on some particular day in the year?

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            Therefore please don’t blame Islam for your faulty logic.

            I don’t blame Islam. I blame people who slaughter animals expecting merits! That’s stupidity. They could be Muslism, Hindus or Buddhists I don’t care. Just because they happen to be Muslism here, I’m not going to make an exception.

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        A research was done by BBC in Nigeria to figure out the best way of slaughtering an animal with minimal pain….

        They researched and concluded that the Muslim way is best and healthy…

        When u stun an animal all what happens is, its in a state of shock and all the blood freezes… including the poison in the blood… As for the severing the jugular vein with an incision (halal with the mention of Allah’s name)the animal suffers less and all the blood is pumped out along with ALL toxins….. there is also a wonderful clip on youtube….about how obedient an animal becomes,when Allah’s name is mentioned while slaughtering…

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc5BWafzEu4

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    Hey BBS Rep in CT where are you man? are you sleeping or hiding unable to comment on this ? pathetic joker!

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      No my dear man,

      I had my say on this. Read above posts, especially in reply to Marwan. No point going round and round as you come back to the same point.

      Also I am a working man with limited access to the internet. I do not have access to internet, generally on weekends.

      Ritual killing of animals to be on the good books of an imaginary god sums up the interllectual limitations of the human minds. So where can argument get me or you.

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        TO YOU GOD IS IMAGINARY.

        TO BILLIONS GOD IS A REALITY EVEN SCIENCE HAS ACCEPTED THE EXISTENCE
        OF A SUPREME BEING.

        ‘ I am quite beside myself with wonder and infinitely grateful to God that it has pleased Him to permit me to discover such great marvels.’ (The Growth of physical Science by Sir James Jeans, p.173, Cambridge, 1951)

        Maulana Wahiduddin Khan of Islamic Centre, has written a nice book entitled ‘God Arises’. (Published by Maktaba al Risala, c-29 Nizamuddin West, New Delhi,1987) in which he has collected the evidence of science and the saying of the scientists on the existence of Almighty God. He has narrated an inspiring incident in this book, which I shall relate. Allama Inayatullah Mashriqi had visited England in the year 1909. On a Sunday when it was raining hard, he met Sir James Jeans, the famous astronomer of the Cambridge University, going to a church with a Bible clutched under his arm. Mr. Inayatullah Kan expressed his astonishment that a person of such a universal fame like him is going to pray in a church. Sir James Jeans asked Mr. Inayatullah Khan to come to his house and have tea with him in the evening. Accordingly, Mr. Inayatullah Khan went to his house in the evening. Sir James Jeans was lost in his thoughts, he asked What your question was? But without waiting for an answer, he gave an inspiring description of the creation of the celestial bodies, their motions and the astonishing order to which they adhere. His voice and his movements clearly showed that he was deeply impressed by the Power and Majesty of God. He said You know Inayatullah Khan when I behold God’s marvelous feats of creation, my whole being trembles in awe at His majesty. When I go to church I bow my head and say, ‘Lord, how great you are’ and not only my lips, but every particle of my body joins in uttering these words. I obtain incredible peace and joy from my prayer. Compared to others, I receive a thousand times more fulfillment from my prayers. So tell me, Inayatullah Khan, now do you understand why I go to Church?

        Hearing this Mr. Inayatullah Khan told Sir James Jeans that his words reminded him of a verse of the Holy Qura’n which he would like to quote if permitted. Sir James Jeans replied: Of course. Mr. Inayatullah Khan then quoted the following verse:
        ” And among the mountains are streaks, white and red, of diverse hues and others raven black; And in like manner, there are men and beasts and cattle, of various colours. Only those of His servants who possess knowledge fear Allah.”(35:27,28)

        Sir James Jeans was deeply impressed by these words of the Holy Qura’n he exclaimed:
        ”What was that? It is those who have knowledge who fear God. Wonderful! How extraordinary! It has taken me fifty years of continual study and observation to realize this fact. Who taught it to (Hazrat) Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)? Is this really in the Qura’n? If so, you can record my testimony that the Qura’n is an inspired Book. (Hazrat) Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) was illiterate. He could not have learnt this immensely important fact on his own. God must have taught it to him. Incredible! How extraordinary! ” (God Arises p.215 with reference to Nuqoosh Shakhsiyat (i.e.; Impression of Personalities) ( p .1208 -1209)

        In short, the words Only those of His servants who possess knowledge fear Allah present a profound truth. The study of the universe not only leads us to the conclusion that God exists but also inculcates the love of God (Qura’n 2:164-166) and the fear of God.

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