27 June, 2019

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Attacks On Muslim, A New Ball-Game

By Kumar David

Prof. Kumar David

When Lanka’s civil war ended in May 2009 with the extermination of the Tamil Tigers (LTTE) it was thought that thirty years of strife was over and military victory would usher in stability and economic progress. Events have dashed these hopes; despite victory the government has shown no inclination for reconciliation or to reach a political settlement with the Tamils; barefaced attempts to consolidate an authoritarian regime and have run into determined opposition; the economy which showed a three year post-war spurt, has followed it with a severe downturn – a short boom followed by a bust. Another perilous development that has burst out in recent months is widespread attacks, in many parts of the island, on mosques, halal (kosher) foods, Muslim attire and the burning down of business premises owned by Muslims.

Indian and Pakistani readers are all too familiar with “communalism”. It evokes memories not just of Babri Masjid, Gujarat-Modi, and the horrors of partition, but reaches further back. Communal history is richly textured with brutality. (Though in the sacking of Delhi by Timur (1398), Nadir Shah (1739), and many other ravages, by far the great majority of those slaughtered were Muslims). The Sinhala-Tamil collision that Lanka has just emerged from too, has its historical roots; well marinated with contemporary social, economic and political discord. Memory reaches back to the Duttugemunu-Ellalan war of 161 BC, and Raja Raja Cholan’s conquest followed by a century long occupation (993-1077). The seminal text of Sinhala-Buddhist lore, the Fifth Century AD Mahavamsa, written in Pali, nurtures the notion of Lanka’s Sinhala-Buddhist exclusivity and portrays the Tamil as the “other”.

The ‘then’ roots of communalism

In colonial times, the British favoured Tamils with juicy placements in the public service, missionaries built schools in Jaffna, Tamil shops and businesses cornered the best locations, and so on. This is all true, and underpins the outbursts of anti-Tamil pogroms in the 1950s and 1960s. These mutated into widespread and co-ordinated attacks on Tamils from 1977 onwards (especially in 1983 when the UNP government, the military and the police instigated carnage), though the original causes had long evaporated. The Sinhala-Tamil civil war had roots charged with a nexus of social and economic discord; the roots were organic, if I may use the expression. Political and constitutional dissonances of the last 60 years were a continuation of the past; bigotry found fertile soil to prosper.

The hostility in Maktila and Rahine Province in Burma, in which hundreds of Muslims have been killed and tens of thousands made homeless, too, reach back a long way. The relaxation of military rule has allowed old angers to surface and pent up animosity to take to the streets. Therefore the outbreak of anti-Muslim bloodshed in Burma is another example of these classic socio-economic roots of religious intolerance.

The point I am driving at is that the anti-Muslim outburst we are now witnessing in Lanka, IS NOT LIKE THIS! This is different! I daresay there are business rivalries and Sinhalese merchants would love to drive out Muslim competitors, usually sharper and abler; but this eruption is not rooted there. The Muslims, unlike the Tamils of the past, put up no competition to the Sinhalese in public service employment and promotion, nor in education and university placement. Actually they are terribly underprivileged in these spheres. There is insufficient socio-economic causality to explain this sudden outburst of anti-Muslim mob violence. Rather, the motivation for the flare-up is firmly located in the political and ideological domains, as I will explain anon.

The Sinhala-Muslim concord was even better than that. Sinhalese up to yesterday extolled the anti-LTTE stance of the Muslim community in the war and congratulated it for distancing itself from the “Tamil speaking people” concept much loved of the Tigers. Indeed Muslims suffered more than the Sinhalese at the hands of the LTTE, which in ruthless style, uprooted and drove the entire community – about a hundred thousand souls – out of the Jaffna Peninsula, in 1991, with 24 hours notice. This base act of ethnic cleansing was followed by the grabbing of Muslim homes, lands and shops by gentle Tamils of non-violent renown! Throughout the civil-war, Sinhala state and people had a reliable and consistent ally in the Muslims. Then bang, in an act of incredible madness, Sinhala-Buddhist mobs and sections of the government, started to run riot!

The ‘now’ of communal rioting in Sri Lanka

Or perhaps is there a method in this madness? Is there method, craft, irrationality (more correctly called bigotry), and subliminal fear (Freud’s Madness of Crowds) underpinning it all. To come down to earth and put it in straightforward language: Are the real causes, the political agenda of sections of the government, plus, what is called Mahavamsa consciousness, a revanchist interpretation of Sinhala-Buddhism? I think the evidence is in favour of this hypothesis. It accounts for the lunatic fringe antics of sections of the SLFP, its coalition partners the Jathika Hela Urumaya and chauvinist Weerawansa, and the extremist Bodhu Bala Sena (BBS), or Buddhist Power Army.

The BBS is monk-led, and burst into prominence in recent months; it is like Shiv Sena not the RSS, in that its role is strong-arm thuggery, not any commitment to social service, a reform agenda or a religious world view. It is Lanka’s incipient version of Hitler’s Brown-Shirts (storm-troopers or Sturmabeteilung, SA). It forced halal products off the shelves, burnt down mosques and shops, forced the closure of Muslim shops, and it intimidates women in traditional Islamic attire. No killings have been reported so far, and unlike Maktila, armed monks have not yet been spotted.

We need to understand how the BBS unexpectedly rose to prominence. The obliteration of the LTTE was an epochal event; it is the acme of Rajapakse’s triumph. Nevertheless, how swiftly things change in modern times! Rajapakse’s moment passes quickly. Modern society is networked and complex – economy, class, ethnicity and polity; but the regime has failed on all counts. And the Rajapakses (the plural form is used to denote the sibling led regime) are still struggling, by defeating Lanka’s democratic heritage, to turn war victory into autocracy. Autocracy progressed in the three years after May 2009, but ran into economic and political roadblocks thereafter. Internationally too, the globe is tightly coupled, and Rajapakse has been brought to his knees, maybe one knee only so far, by internal and external happenings.

In this squalid scenario, Muslims pay the price of the regime needing a new enemy; a dragon to slay before its core constituency, a replacement for the vanquished tiger. This is the reason for the exertions of the chauvinists in the ruling alliance. This is the method in the madness of politically rigged communal mobilisation. Incredibly, Defence Secretary and military supremo, Gothabhaya, the President’s brother, has mounted the BBS rostrum and bestowed virtual impunity on these Rasputins. Imagine, if Indian Defence Minister Anthony, or Defence Secretary Sharma, were to visit an RSS or Shiv Sena ceremony and commend it for its good work in protecting Hinduism and Aryanism!

However this is not a one way street; it is not the regime alone that needs the mobs, the mobs too need impunity to sally forth and attain psychological catharsis. There is symbiosis between the regime’s political needs and the mob’s urge for orgasmic relief. After defeating the Tamils, Sinhala-Buddhist Mahavamsa ideology required new space. Religious extremism is as phoney and addictive an opiate as racism; of one hemlock we have partaken to the full, we now raise a second poisoned chalice to our lips. It is a mélange of the political ploy of a state sliding to economic and political disorder, and the cravings of addicts for an ethno-religious opiate. The sibling’s political agenda explains why the police force stands paralysed when this mob, the regime’s Sinhala-Buddhist core constituency, runs amok before its eyes. The extremists, for their part, have cathartic urges to fulfil. This confluence, this merging, constitutes the foundation of anti-Muslim mobilisation; this alone explains the unexpectedness of the eruption of communal violence in recent months.

Demographic inevitables

However, there is a rational element in the panic that bearers of “Mahavamsa consciousness” endure. En passant, this consciousness envisions Sri Lanka as the pristine land of Sinhala-Buddhism, much as the Resurrection is the cardinal article of the Christian faith. Panic about alleged Muslim concupiscence is a Sinhala-Buddhist demographic nightmare. Muslims now number 9% but they multiply faster; their women are presumed more fertile, their men of superior virility – presumably the latter engenders a potency-inferiority complex in the competition! Psychology apart, I am no expert, demographic calculations suggest that within a generation the proportion of Muslims could rise to between 15 and 20%. Now this would be a completely different ballgame. The mocking lilt of that charming old ballad, “The sons of the Prophet are Mighty and Bold, and quite unaccustomed to fear”, may come to life, all the way to jihadism.

There is still a little time for the Lankan government to come to its senses and bring the full force of the law to bear. Despite scores of mosque and shop burning under the noses of an idle police, not one rowdy monk or BBS thug has been brought to trial and convicted. Fearful organisations and middle-aged Muslims have sought compromises (they have surrendered on the halal issue) and shop owners have reached “amicable” settlements with arsonists. The mood, however, is different among the young; patience will snap when Muslim women are violated by monks and mobs.

Appeals to justice and commonsense will have no effect on this government, only a threat to its own survival will be effective. This is where international action can help. Middle East countries must draw a line in the sand and say, if it is crossed, if violence against Muslims continues, Lankan domestic workers (earners of 60% of the countries current account foreign currency) will be sent home. If this happens the government will collapse within months as the economy crumbles and the streets erupt. India and the rest of the world must make it clear that if these pogroms, or any other artifice, is used to annul constitutional democracy in Lanka, the culprits will be dispatched in short order. The world does not need another Bashar al-Assad.

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    Excellent article.

    3 Nikayas should take action against to the Monks who were involved in the FASHION BUG attack though they were forgiven by the owners of the shop. If the Nikayas fails take action against to these monks, who is the people responsible for the leadership of Monks?

    Further one would question quality of the Buddhist teaching at the Privena? What they studied there and who are their teachers?

    Whenever Cheife Monks recruit people for these services, they should consider thir family background and the have to be guided in a proper manner. If not there may be questions arises on the matter of Buddhist Ethics.

    Hope These BBS aand their loyals learnt a lesson now.

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      They were indirectly FORGIVEN by Medamulana Meeharaka (a.k.a. Hitlerpaksha), brother of GOATAsena!!

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        Your hatred towards Rajapakses is unbelievable … I understand the impotency of you guys feel infront of your perceived giants … There are many many in this world who have achieved great many things you can not achieve even in dreams. … Jealous outpourings does not solve your decease eventhough you feel fine for a short period …
        Kumar’s BBS thug usage is interesting … BBS is only a reaction to very extreme action by some groups to put the Halal certification on thousands and thousands food items …
        When people protest about the halal certification of thousands and thousands of food items (even a small chocolate packet has it squeezed in the very tiny space on the packet), it is extremism … Why 91% of the population who are not interested about halal food forced to eat halal certified food?
        Isn’t forcing people to eat halal food extremism? Judging by the people like Kumar D, questioning about it is the extremism …. What a world?

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          You love for Rajapakses is also excellent. ACJU clearly says that the Halal certification is purely an optional choice. It is not forced on someone or Non Muslims..You see there are butchers/ meat stalls in the country..that does not mean they are forcing Buddhists to eat meat. It is one’s choice to do so..Tell your so called BBS stop rape cases, alcohol consumption and gambling which are also not taught by Gutama Buddha for good people.

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          Wamboto:
          You are back! Wow! Here we were thinking that evolution had, at long last, caught up with you but…..
          Have you renegotiated your terms with your paymasters in order to continue to pour out your piffle?
          The truly “classic” part of your rubbish is, “Isn’t forcing people to eat halal food extremism? Judging by the people like Kumar D, questioning about it is the extremism …. What a world?”
          Pray tell who FORCED anyone to eat any b…y halal-certified food and pray tell how on earth the food in a pack that was “halal-certified” changed in ANY MANNER WHATSOEVER?
          CT really needs a policy against idiots, particularly those generating hate against minorities!

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      3 NIKAYAS SHOULD TAKE ACTION TO ABOLISH UNBUDISTIC NIKAYA SEPARATION!!

      WHEN THE WHITE MAN LEFT (NOT MILITARILLY DEFEATED) OUR SINHALAYAS WERE THE RICHRST & BIGGEST BUSINESS MEN, NOT MUSLIMS OR TAMILS.

      THEN THEY BOUGHT THIS MUD ‘N DUNG IDEOLOLY AND DESTROYED IT ALL
      INTERIOR FELLOWS NEVER KNEW ANYTHING BEYOND THEIR FIELDS, NOT VERSED IN TRADE, SAW BEYOND HILL
      IT IS NOT THE COASTAL FELLOWS FAULT THAT HE KNEW, WE ARE AN ISLAND
      IT WAS NOT HIS FAULT THAT THE WHITE MAN OCCUPIED HIS LAND

      YOU DIRTY FELLOWS MURDERED YOUR OWN ENTREPRENEURS
      SO NOW, THE MUSLIMS ARE THE ENTREPRENEURS.

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        Gura:
        Do you think you could persuade CT to have your material translated from whatever language you write it in?

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    An Excellent Article.

    3 Nikayas should take action against to the Monks who were involved in the FASHION BUG attack though they were forgiven by the owners of the shop. If the Nikayas fails take action against to these monks, who is the people responsible for the leadership of Monks?

    Further one would question quality of the Buddhist teaching at the Privena? What they studied there and who are their teachers?

    Whenever Cheife Monks recruit people for these services, they should consider thir family background and the have to be guided in a proper manner. If not there may be questions arises on the matter of Buddhist Ethics.

    Hope These BBS aand their loyals learnt a lesson now.

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      3 Nikayas should get together and oust the Rajapaksas.

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    //– about a hundred thousand souls – out of the Jaffna Peninsula, in 1991, with 24 hours notice.//
    Mannar is not a part of the Jaffna Peninsula.

    ” Let me provide the number of Muslims residing in the Jaffna district from 1827 to 1981, from a third source; the Department of Census and Statistics of Sri Lanka.
    1827 – 2,166; 1881 – 2,648; 1891 – 3,049; 1901 – 3,078; 1911 – 3,485; 1921 – 3,748; 1946 – 5,620; 1953 – 7,083; 1963 – 8,600; 1971 – 10,374; 1981 – 13,757.
    Please make note that the number of 13,757 Muslims were for the entire Jaffna district, and not for the Jaffna electorate.”

    The number of Muslims evicted from the entire Northern province less than 72,000( Source: http://www.jaffnamuslims.lk/static.htm.) But Dr. Kumar David says ” about a hundred thousand souls – out of the Jaffna Peninsula”. :)

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      Thivya,what are you nitpicking?Whether it is 100000 or 72000 who cares.How would you like to be told to leave your home in 24 hours or get killed.If this is tamil culture I would gladly cease to be a tamil hence forth and just call myself a member of the human race instead.

      The bastards who did that got their just deserts albeit after several years.Justice may be delayed but it will never be not delivered.

      The most shameful thing for me is that tamils did not protest against this atrocity and also some of the despicable part of the community went and even occupied these muslim houses.We make a big hue and cry about July 83,but when our own thugs do the same to muslims we are silent.

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        Shankar you are not Tamil and I am sure you are Sinhalese trying to capitalise on the Muslims plight at the hands of BBS.
        No one would like to be told to leave their homes in 24 hours. But the muslim community brought it upon themselves by siding with the Sinhalese army.
        It was a fight for freedom whether you like it or not after 30 years of suffering at the hands of the brutal Sinhalese. The reason why the Muslims were asked to leave was because they were spying on the LTTE and reporting them to the occupying Sinhalese Army instead of showing solidarity with the Tamils. They were not asked to leave because they were Muslims but because they were conniving with the Army and a danger to the LTTE so get this clear once and for all in your mind.
        Have you criticised the Sinhalese State Apparatus for the Land grabbing of Tamil Land including Temple Land destroying Temples.

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      Thiviya,

      You have weight the statistics you have provided in terms of the overall population increase. Around independence our total national population was around six million, if I remember right. Better health care and malaria control resulted in explosive population growths in the years following independence.

      dr.Rajasingham Narendran

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    Kumar David says “India and the rest of the world must make it clear that if these pogroms, or any other artifice, is used to annul constitutional democracy in Lanka, the culprits will be dispatched in short order.”

    Forget about india buddy.India is also suffering from muslimphobia as muslims breed faster than the hindu’s.When partition took place they would have been a small percentage and the hindu’s would have thought no harm in letting them stay instead of chasing them into pakistan.Now they are more than 100 million and can make or break governments with their vote,and Hindu’s must be having second thoughts about having let them stay in India.So the muslims of srilanka cannot expect any help from India in this regard because they are also in the same boat as the bhuddhists of Srilanka who have now started to suffer from the muslimphobia that is spreading around the globe because of their koran telling them to have no birth control and spread islam around the world.That is the main reason that other religions are getting jittery because they feel they will get outnumbered by the muslims one day.The objectives enumerated in the koran is directly in conflict with other religions and very soon countries where their are muslim minorities will bring a quota on the number of children that muslims could have.Once the people of those countries feel that the percentage of muslims to the total population will stay the same the muslimphobia will start vanishing.Until then it will continue as people get rattled with their breeding habits that they follow dutifully from the instructions in the koran.It is a pity if islam is stopped spreading because I think it is a great religion for the world.The dicipline it instills is unbelievable and to be a muslim with all the restrictions is much harder that being a bhuddhist,christian or hindu.I especially like the abstinence of alchohol which is pure evil invented by man.

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      @Shankar
      If others are impotent dont have the ability to breed dont blame the Muslims with sheer jealousy.

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    It evokes memories not just of Babri Masjid, Gujarat-Modi

    You make it sound like these events happened for no reason. The Gujarat riots were in response to Hindu pilgrims being burned alive on a train. Why don’t you give the full story next time; otherwise consider your style of writing little more than opportunistic.

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      Lester,why don’t you also tell that the muslims who were killed had nothing to do with the burning of the hindus in the train.You can go after the culprits but not after innocent muslims.You a educated man is having the mob mentality,what can you expect from the uneducated especially when the organisers of riots give them free liquor and drugs to pump them up.Are you a christian or catholic? You seem to like muslim bashing.I being a hindu am ashamed of how the hindus in india have behaved razing the babri Masjid,killing more than 2000 sikhs when Indira was assassinated,and the anti muslim riots in gujarat.

      Those on the train who were burnt also were part of the hardline hindus who were making a trip back to the babri masjid site or something like that,i believe.If so good riddance of bad rubbish because I don’t want my religion polluted by these kind of scum.

      I love my religion,I pray to my god Ganesh who drank any amount of milk I Fed in 1995,and I don’t want people using hinduism for their political agendas.As far as i’am considered the religion is only to communicate with the superior being,the creator and nothing else.

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        What rubbish is this. Your Moghul comrades Akbar, etc. terrorized India for thousands of years. You are not a Hindu because Indian Hindus are the most peaceful people one can come across; the only people who despise Indian Hindus are Muslims such as yourself. Babri Masjid should be torn down because that is where the Ram Temple originally was. Indian Hindus need to take a hardline against Muslims, just like Israel does.

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          Lester,you say that I’am not a hindu,but you have not answered my question whether you are a christian/catholic?Why don’t you want to answer that?Instead of trying to convert me let us know your religion first.

          India was not under muslim rule for thousands of years as you claim but for 700.During this time the hindus would have undergone untold suffering and persecution,but the important thing is we survived and now there are more than a billion hindus and spreading all over the world.That is the main thing,to survive.

          I don’t despise Indian hindu’s as you claim,but only those who try to use my religion for political purposes.Read again what I have written in the right context without cunningly misinterpreting.I don’t want thugs and scumbags bringing my religion into disrepute though they me be less than 1 percent.As you rightly pointed out the large majority of hindus are peaceful tolerant people but we have to weedout the scumbags and lock them up so that our religion is not brought into disrepute.

          You say the babri masjid should be torn down because the Ram temple was there first.That is your christian way,not our hindu way of thinking.We built a temple for god,and if god could not protect it,then we cannot do anything further,and true hindus move on build another temple somewhere else,without taking revenge.Revenge is incompatible with belief in god and hinduism is all about belief and prayers to god and nothing else.We absorb the pain given to us as our karma and move on to the next birth when this short life is over.

          You christians need not tell us to take a hardline to our indian muslims brothers and sisters.You can continue the crusades if you want to but we have forgiven the muslim invasions and moved on with the formation of secular india which will be a superpower one day.

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            Stop pretending to be a Hindu. It’s very obvious you’re a Tamil-speaking Muslim. No Hindu would defend the barbaric burning of a train full of Hindus, the way you have:

            Those on the train who were burnt also were part of the hardline hindus who were making a trip back to the babri masjid site or something like that,i believe.If so good riddance of bad rubbish because I don’t want my religion polluted by these kind of scum.

            Also lets not forget your Freudian slip about “Tamil lizards” in Blacker’s thread.

            The Ram Temple is for Hindus, just like all of India is for Hindus first and foremost. If you disagree, take your Abrahamic religion and head back to the Arabian desert.

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              Lester,Don’t pester the muslims.

              Even if I tell you a thousand times I,am a hindu you won’t believe me,so I won’t again.I know what I’am,I have told it on this blog and it is upto anyone to believe it or not,I don’t care.Your concept of loyalty to religion is such that you believe whatever a member of your religion does should be condoned otherwise you must be of some other faith.My concept of loyalty to religion is different to yours,where I believe those that bring my religion into disrepute should be jailed or excommunicated so that the purity of the religion can be maintained.

              I agree with you that I was a bit harsh on the hindus that were burnt in the train,but I did not burn them.Maybe the gods that they were professing to fight for by burning the mosque had them burnt.I don’t know but the only thing I know is if you create trouble,trouble will follow.

              By the way to want to somehow make me a muslim,but will never answer my question whether you are a christian/catholic.Why are you evading that?Is it very embarrassing for a christian to fight for hindus when a true hindu is not?Then others will wonder why is this christian supporting bhuddhist monk thugs and Hindu thugs against muslims,when bhuddhists and hindu’s are not?Is he being paid by the jews to ferment trouble?Only thing you can do to wriggle out is to change me into a muslim.If you are so desperate I will have to go and get myself circumcised.

              You say that all of india is for the hindus first and foremost.I beg to differ.I doubt whether your fellow christians in India will agree with you.Land was not created by humans so nobody can say “this land belongs to me only”.It belongs to only the superior being,the creator who will decide who shall live where and all others will have to abide by that decision.

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              @Shankar:

              Your Freudian slip about burning Hindus gave you anyway. Now you have made another Freudian slip:

              Maybe the gods that they were professing to fight for by burning the mosque had them burnt

              This time, you’re making fun of the polytheist aspect of Hinduism. Keep up the good work; it’s great comedy to see you call yourself Hindu and recite Quran.

              I have said many times on this website that I am an atheist.

              India is for the Hindus. Unless you want to go back to dinosaur times.

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              Lester,Atheist won’t do no.What religion were you born to?Now don’t tell me you were born an atheist too.

              As for your constant harping of my comments on the hindus who were burnt on the train,it is not conflicting at all with hinduism.We believe in karma.The good and bad you do is carried forward into this life and the next.If those hindus had just practiced their religion by prayer instead of becoming Hindu zealots then they might not have been on that train.And guess what,if they were not on that train then they would not have got burnt.However destiny is destiny,if you have to die you will die and nothing on earth can stop it.When the time comes we have to go.I believe at the time of birth,there is a time of death too.

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          Truth Behind the Fire in Sabarmati Express (Godhra, February 27, 2002)
          K S Subramanium filed in MAINSTREAM, VOL XLIX, NO 16, APRIL 9, 2011

          Significantly, only one coach, S-6, had been burnt and the fire had not spread to the other coaches. It was not clear whether the train was stopped because of the fire or whether the coach was set on fire after the train had stopped. If the latter was correct, why was the train stopped at all? It could be that because of the fire, someone pulled the chain.

          As the train left the Godhra station, all the windows and doors of coach S-6, as well as those of the other coaches, remained closed because of the stone throwing. When the train was stopped, nobody from the outside could identify any particular person from any particular coach as a kar sevak, though they were overwhelmingly present in the train. The fact that the fire did not spread to the remaining coaches clearly indicated that it originated within S-6. This also explains why only persons in that coach died. In all probability, as the fire broke out, extreme panic resulted. Many men managed to escape through the vestibules to the other coaches, leaving mostly women and children behind, who succumbed to the fire. The evidence suggested that the passengers had had their belongings stacked against the doors making it impossible for anyone to easily get out of or get into coach S-6.

          The Tribunal inspected the burnt coach S-6 on May 7, 2002. The sloping site where the train had stopped is an elevated bund. From the ground level, the height of the bund could be about 12-15 feet high. At the top, there was no space for 2000 persons to assemble on both sides of the track. If so many had actually gathered there, the crowd would have spread over a much larger area than the stretch of coach S-6. If the government version were true, the other coaches should have been targeted as much as coach S-6. Taking into account the height of the bund and the height at which the train stood, no fire-balls could have been lobbed in; the outside of the coach did not show signs of charring. The Tribunal found no marks below the coach windows; the charred marks were to be seen only at or above the window level, clearly indicating that the fire had actually started inside the coach and its leaping flames had singed the outside of the compartment, above the window level. Even to the naked eye, it was clear that the fire was from within, not from outside.

          The findings of the Tribunal were later confirmed by the reports of the State Forensic Science Laboratory (FSL). The relevant section of the Forensic Science Laboratory report (State of Gujarat, New Mental Corner, Ahmedabad-16, Spot Investigation Report No. 2 regarding CR No. 9/2002, Godhra Railway Police Station), filed by Assistant Director Dr M.S. Dahiya, clearly stated:

          ”It was found that the height of the window of the coach was around 7 ft. from the ground at the place. Under this circumstance, it was not possible to throw any inflammable fluid inside from outside the coach from any bucket or carboy, because by doing this, most of the fluid was getting thrown outside. At the place of the incidents, there was one heap of grit, of three feet height at a distance of around 14-ft, in the southern side of the coach. Water was thrown on the windows of the coach with the help of bucket standing on the top of the said heap, in that case only about 10 to 15 per cent of the water went inside and the rest of the quantity was spilled outside itself. Thus, if the inflammable fluid is thrown from outside, then a major part of it would fall around the track outside and catch fire and cause damage to the outer part of bottom side of the coach. But after examination of the coach and the track, no effect was found of the fire on bottom side below the windows of the coach. By taking into consideration this fact, and also the burning pattern of the outer side of the coach, a conclusion can be drawn that no inflammable fluid had been thrown inside from outside the coach.

          “There also appears to be no possibility that any inflammable liquid was thrown through the door of the bogie. By observing the condition of the frames of the windows of the coach, it appears that all the windows of the coach were closed during the time of the fire.”

          The Tribunal was convinced that the fire came from inside. This was seen from the inner side of the coach. The intensity of the fire was such that even the iron rods, the seats, the fans were all burnt to such an extent that we found them twisted and molten out of shape. The Tribunal found rice and wheat partly burnt and scattered all across the floor of compartment S-6. Some of the Tribunal witnesses stated that kar sevaks had stoves in the train. The FSL report showed that for such an intensity of fire, 60 litres of inflammable liquid had to be poured into the coach, “by using a wide mouthed container”. The question arose: where was this container? There is no evidence of anyone carrying 60 litres of inflammable liquid. At what point of time was the liquid taken inside the coach, or into the passage? Who was travelling in the train? If such a large number of kar sevaks, armed with trishuls and in an aggressive mood, were inside the train, how could the Ghanchi Muslims enter the train? And how could they have carried so much petrol openly or even clandestinely without being discovered by the passengers?

          So, the mystery of the fire remained, the only thing certain being the fact that it came from within.

          Was Godhra Pre-Planned?

          The evidence analysed above clearly indicated that the incident was not pre-planned by the Muslims, as alleged by the State Government. In this connection, The Times of India on March 29, 2002 reported a statement made by the IGP, Railways, P.P. Agja, to the effect that there was no evidence of a pre-planned conspiracy behind the Godhra incident. He added: “The case is still being investigated and if there was some deep conspiracy, then we are yet to find it.’’ He further told The Times of India, standing in front of the railway police station on the platform where the trouble had began:

          “According to the sequence of events as found by the police, all was not well in coach S-6 of the Ahmedabad-bound Sabarmati Express on that day. A group of unruly Ram sevaks had boarded the train at Lucknow without reser-vations and had put to discomfort the 66 genuine passengers of the coach. Some of the ticket-paying passengers had to sleep on the floor; so overcrowded had the compartment become that the ticket collector who came aboard the train at Ratlam (two stations before Godhra) was not allowed to enter the coach.

          “At Godhra station, the hawkers on the platform started stoning the train after an unsavoury incident, especially targeting coach S-6, because some occupants of the coach had given offence. At any point of time, there are some 250 hawkers on the station. Some of them carry stoves with kerosene in them. All of them live in the slum called Signal Falia, next to the station.

          “This means it is not surprising that a crowd could collect at the station so fast. The people, who live cheek by jowl in the slums next to the station, include a fair share of criminals indulging in railway crimes like looting, pick-pocketing and stealing of goods of passengers and also railway property. All of them are Ghanchi Muslims and they are uneducated, without any jobs and poor.”

          It was thus clear that the attack on S-6 coach was not pre-meditated. From 8.30 am, just after the fire on the Sabarmati Express took place, until 7.30 pm that evening, repeated statements by the Godhra District Collector, Smt Jayanthi Ravi, relayed on Doordarshan and Akashwani (radio) stated that “the incident was not pre-planned, it was an accident”.

          As is evident from the voluminous evidence recorded by the Tribunal, and substantive other evidence made available to it, investigating officials did not find any proof of the Godhra atrocity being pre-planned.

          However, by the evening of February 27, a well-thought-out scheme to extract maximum political capital out of Godhra had been launched. As part of this scheme, at around 2.30 am, the bodies of the kar sevaks were brought to Ahmedabad in a provocative procession. Around 500 people were waiting outside the Sola Civil Hospital in Ahmedabad for the charred bodies to arrive from Godhra. By 3.35 am on February 28, a convoy of five trucks led by a pilot Gypsy entered the hospital compound. The State Government and the administration, instead of appealing for restraint and peace, became the agents of a well-planned action against innocent Muslims of the State that was in fact projected as a ‘reaction’. The corpses of the unfortunate victims of the Godhra train fire were used to launch a Statewide pogrom.

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            No one will believe your half-baked account of a fire being started from inside.

            The Godhra Train Burning was a pre-planned attack by a Muslim mob on the morning of the 27th of February, 2002, in which 58 Hindus including 25 women and 15 children were burnt to death in a fire inside the Sabarmati Express train near the Godhra railway station in the Indian state of Gujarat.[2] Many of the people killed were Hindu pilgrims and activists who were returning from the holy city of Ayodhya.[3][4] Investigations and court rulings on the case later established that the fire was caused by arson by radical Islamist mobs and 31 people were convicted for the crime. [5][6]

            This incident triggered communal Hindu-Muslim riots in Gujarat, resulting in deaths of 790 Muslims and 254 Hindus as well as widespread loss of property, and homelessness.[7]

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              @Lester yours is as half baked if not more than mine.
              Gujarat’s state authorities say Muslims torched the train.
              This was what the BBC reported!
              “Survivor accounts speak of a stone-throwing mob attacking the train. But doubts have persisted over how the fire started.
              Retired Supreme Court judge Umesh Chandra Banerjee, who is leading the government inquiry, dismissed suggestions that inflammable liquid could have been thrown at the train from outside.
              “There has been a preponderance of evidence that the fire in coach number S6 originated in the coach itself without any external input,” he said.
              “The possibility of an inflammable liquid having been used is completely ruled out as there was first a smell of burning, followed by then smoke and flames thereafter.”
              Justice Banerjee said that according to eyewitness accounts people had been cooking in the carriage at the time it caught fire.
              He said the railway authorities had “pre-judged” the incident, and criticised them for not conducting a thorough inquiry.

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        Shankar,

        “…I pray to my god Ganesh who drank any amount of milk I Fed in 1995,…”

        Do you really believe this was a miracle? If you studied science at least up to Grade 10, then all you would need is a controlled experiment to verify that the material of which the statue was made, will absorb milk the same way.

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          Agnos,you can be happily agnostic thinking that it impossible to verify the existence of god,but I’am not agnostic at all.I have thought long and hard over this without just following the footsteps of other people who believe in the existence of god,and I have come to the conclusion that there is a superior being who has created this planet in such a manner as to have living things on it.If it was just an accidental creation how would you explain the fact that the earth is exactly at the right distance to the sun for life to exist. The probability of that occurring will be more than one in a billion.If the sun had been a few kilometres away we would all freeze up and if it was a few kilometres closer we would have all fried up.Even now when it is at the right distance we can’t live in many parts of the world because it is too cold or too hot.Just imagine if the distance had changed a wee bit only,would we be here communicating with each other over the internet.

          So before you become agnostic,think a bit.The superior being need not appear in front of you.You have a brain to think haven’t you.

          Instead of appearing the superior being could send messages out,especially when people like you start to proliferate,so that others don’t follow your footsteps.That is what I believe happened in the milk drinking episode of Lord Ganesh,to reinforce the faith in us and rekindle its dormancy.

          You say that the statue will absorb the milk in the same way even now.So why did it happen only in that short perid of a few weeks in 1995.Every day people can be giving milk and it can be getting absorbed no?Then it ceases to be a rare phenomenon and as you claim we can expalin it scientifically.In india during that period millions and millions of litres of milk was purchased more than the normal amount,all those could be absorbed by these small statues scientifically you think?The excess would hav been flowing down the roads,but did that happen.The statues absorbed everything.Did it dissapear in any other metal objects than the hidu gods?Then you can say “hey look it is not only Ganesh,but the statue of Saddam hussein is also drinking.

          Science can explain most things ,but not the meaning of our existence.That is why we have to mix other things with science such as philosophy,religion etc so that we can discern the meaning of our existence.Scientists are loath to mix anything else with science,because that will dilute the very foundation of scientific principles on which they have been trained.Non scientist don’t have that problem and can cherry pick from various disciplines including science and mix it up and provide the answer.If a scientist steps out of his boundaries earmarked for science he will be ostracised, as galileo was at one time for saying that the world was round and not flat.

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            Wrong again. Science can explain everything. Latest findings from the LHC say that the present Universe has a finite lifespan, so the question of “why we exist” is irrelevent, since the Universe as we know it will be destroyed.

            Scientists say they may be able to determine the eventual fate of the cosmos as they probe the properties of the Higgs boson.

            A concept known as vacuum instability could result, billions of years from now, in a new universe opening up in the present one and replacing it.

            It all depends on some precise numbers related to the Higgs that researchers are currently trying to pin down.

            What is amazing is that science can predict the fate of the Universe tens of billions of years from now, based on the existence of a particle (Higgs Boson) that was found using a man-made instrument. No need for prayer, holy milk, halal pork, or abayas. There is nothing humans cannot do when they rely on logic alone.

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              Lester,you and science are far apart,so don’t venture into it.
              You quote”A concept known as vacuum instability could result, billions of years from now, in a new universe opening up in the present one and replacing it.”.

              So there seems to be plenty of time for you to be born again as a muslim.

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              @Shankar,

              According to your holy book, I will be burned in a fire, while Osama Bin Laden enjoys with his 72 virgins. :(

              “…Enough is Hell for a burning fire. Those who reject Our Signs, We shall soon cast into the Fire. As often as their skins are roasted through, We shall change them for fresh skins, that they may taste the penalty. For Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise” (4:55-56)

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              Lester,don’t pester me with the versus of the koran or the bible or anything.We hindus are not interested in other religions and what they say.I of course read what the Bhuddha said because his words are full of wisdom.We are supremely confident of our religion and do our poojas and pray.We don’t have any books or holy scriptures to follow except the Bhagvad Gita that nobody has read anyway.The rituals are brought down from word of mouth through generation to generation.We just believe in god unlike you an atheist,and we go through some simple rituals when we do the prayers and poojas to god.We are not interested in converting others to hinduism and are not bothered if hindus leave the faith or become atheists.Anyone can come and go as they please,though small number of hindu zealots are not practising the religion and instead using it for their own ends.

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              To CT READERS.
              @Lester quoting scriptures is akin to the DEVIL quoting the Bible. So kindly disregard the devil .

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            “So why did it happen only in that short perid of a few weeks in 1995.”

            Well, the story was spread by a few people who found they couldn’t explain it, and others who took it at face value. Once it became known that the material was absorbent, the story died down. Any other claim was just misinformation spread by people who didn’t try it out first hand.

            “The superior being need not appear in front of you.You have a brain to think haven’t you.”
            Agnostic skepticism has nothing to do with the inability of God to “appear” in person. It has to do with the contradictions of religious claims, and their failure to withstand scrutiny.

            “That is what I believe happened in the milk drinking episode of Lord Ganesh,to reinforce the faith in us and rekindle its dormancy.”

            The assumption that an omnipotent, omniscient being has to resort to such gimmicks to reinforce faith in itself, among a tiny segment of the world population that visits a Ganesha statue, seems silly to me.

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              Agnos,I did not get the story from others,but first hand with my hand itself.So if you don’t want to believe it that is okay with me,main thing is i’am convinced,so that is what matters to me.

              You call yourself an agnostic because religions are unable to withstand scrutiny.I have not been speaking about religions to you,but scientific facts such as the distance of the sun to the earth etc that could indeed withstand scrutiny.Just like you I also take religions with a pinch of salt because they are all man made,but that does not mean I’am agnostic.Don’t look at religions,but look around you and think whether all this could come about by accident or coincidence or deliberate action.

              God works in mysterious ways they say.What may look silly to you might in fact be having some meaning which we are unable to comprehend because we are at a much lower level than god.I can only do some guesswork as to the motives but I could be wrong.

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    When there are 40 mosques now in Kattankudy … do the readers seriously fall for these anti-Muslim slogans?

    Wake up … you are all being taken for a good jolly ride …

    40 mosques in Kattankudy will mean same numbers all over Sri Lanka while you cry for the Muslims… bravo..

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      It is not just in Sri Lanka, but all over the world. Even in bankrupt Greece, the Greek government is funding construction of a new mosque.

      From Belgium to Greece and Spain to Germany, 2013 is shaping up to be another banner year for the construction of mosques in Europe.

      In Belgium, work is about to begin on the construction of a mega-mosque in Liège, the third-largest city in the country…

      In Germany, Muslims in the northern city of Hamburg are converting the former Kapernaumkirche (Capernaum Church), a cultural heritage site, into a mosque…

      In the southern German city of Munich, local politicians are debating where to build a massive mosque complex known as the Center for Islam in Europe-Munich (ZIE-M). The 6,000 m² (65,000 ft²) mega-project, which will cost an estimated €40 million ($51 million), is designed to be a key strategic platform for spreading Islam throughout Europe.

      Speculation is rife that the Persian Gulf Emirate of Qatar will pay for the project….

      http://www.rightsidenews.com/2013040532292/life-and-science/culture-wars/europe-mosque-building-shifts-into-high-gear.html

      The construction of these mosques is being funded with oil money. The global economic recession has not slowed down the building of mosques because the price of a barrel of oil has remained relatively stable, unlike other commodities. It is only a matter of time before Sri Lanka becomes a target.

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        No point in getting exited. By the year 2030 there will be 3 Billion Muslims and more and more mosques will come up with oil money. Without oil money you will be starving here. You are exporting young dirks to grab a little portion of this oil money. Your king is begging for this oil money. Here in southern Sri Lanka 35 BUDHIST temples are closed without a single monk! Dot blame others for your fault. Buddhism is disappearing from the world not because of other religion, It is only because of BUDDHIST monks like BBS and people like you who are trying to hide behind atheism!

        Wy Osama he is a terrorist. what about the Chief BUDDHIST Priest of London Thames Vihara? He has sexually abused a Little Girl and sent to prison by the London Court! He was running TWO orphanages, one in Sri Lanka and one in London! PLEASE READ this same COLOMBO TELEGRAPH OF AUGUST 31, 2012! There are nice pictures. Everyone must see them.

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          SL economy is not based on oil revenue. You are mistaking foreign remittances for oil money. In any case, SL women are not the only ones to be abused by Saudis. Go to a refugee camp for Syrians and you will see that your Jordanian and Saudi brothers are exploiting young girls. But even in Saudi, there are thousands of Philipinos, Thais, Indonesians, etc. who suffer abuse under these monsters. No doubt you are proud of this behavior; it is what you are taught in your holy book. And your leader (PBUH) was nothing but a criminal and pedophile.

          As for these mosques you build, it is not difficult to take them down. Don’t think Europeans will let you spread your rubbish philosophy forever. If there is anarchy, your mosques will be the first to go.

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            Criminals only know about the criminal activities. No point in getting exited. Muslim population will grow. There will be more Mosques in Europe and all over the world. No one can stop this. The money migrant workers (your youn girls and women) sending here from Midle Eastern countries are oil money. You doesn’t know even this. The grants and aids receiving from Libya, Iran, Qatar, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and other Middle Eastern countries are all oil money. Your leaders go and beg for this oil money. This fellow does’t know about this. Your girls go there and roam with not only Saudi and Jordanian brothers but also your young girls with old men and women are with young boys of various nationalities to have varieties of taste! MY ADVICE TO LESTER IS Please do not send them there. IT IS ALMOST EXPORTING GIRLS FOR PROSTITUTION. Thailand may not bother about it. Because their main business is that!

            I will tel you a fact. One man was always abusing Muslims and Islam. Finally I came to know that his wife was ran away with a muslim youth and his sister and daughter were also with muslim youths. That is the reason for the hate? No point in blaming others for own fault. As a man, He should have given all JOYS to his wife. Otherwise, he has to face the consiquences!
            Do you know: CHIEF SANGANAYAKE THERA OF GREAT BRITON AND CHIEF INCUMBANT OF THE LONDON THAMES BUDHIST VIHARA, PARIVINADHIPATHI OF VIDYAVINDA PIRIVENA PAHALAGAMA, GAMPAHA AND CHIEF LEKADHIKARI OF THE SRI KALYANI SAMAGI DHARMA MAHA SANGHA SABA, PAHALAGAMA SOMARATHNE THERA was sexually abused a nine year old little girl and was sent to Prison for 7 years by London Court. Please refer to CTaugust 31, 2012 for details and photos! Lester this was in London not in your favorite Middle East!

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              You are a real joker, with no knowledge of economics. Sri Lanka does not beg money from anyone; it gets the money from China, Japan, the IMF, and World Bank.

              At least the housemaids work hard. Unlike the tip cut Arabs who keep their women covered in bedsheets and don’t know how to tie their shoelaces.

              You think the free oil money will last forever? Hahaha. The joke is on you. Look what happened to Dubai after the credit crunch.

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            CT Please do no edit this. I am answering to a fellow who has no ethics.

            You know nothing. You were teaching to School Children in North America. IMF has already stopped lending money to Sri Lanka. World bank very soon. China also giving us loan. So all these are loans which you fools have to pay. You know how you are paying them? You will not know it. Because, You never thought economics to the little children in your school in North America. Loans are repaid from the foreign currency your girls and women send from Middle Eastern countries and from the export earnings. Further For developments your BOSS goes and beg money mostly from oil rich countries. They are the people who gives free grants to you beggars! America and Europian countries have already restricted their share based on your
            EXCELLENT Records in the Killing Fields.

            ONot only the house maids some of your girls here also like the CUT TIPS, DANNO DANITHI RASA ! I have told you a real story about one of your person’s (it is not you) wife in my earlier commentit. She went only for a cut tip. Still husband is angry with Muslims. What to do we can’t help! That is our plus point!

            Joker Fool! Oil will be there even after you die. It will last another 100 years in some countries. By the time you would have dead and gone.

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              CT, please do not edit my last comment

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              Haha, what a clown. When a country takes a loan, it creates a trade deficit. The Sri Lankan trade deficit was USD 9.31 billion in 2012. The US trade deficit was U.S. trade deficit in 2012 was $539.514 billion. So not just the poor countries are having negative trade balances.

              No one is begging oil rich countries for money, except your Sunni terrorist brothers in Syria.

              Everyone knows Muslim men are the most insecure. That is why they treat women so badly. So live long and enjoy your tip cut halal polka dot. :)

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              What a funny argument? Then why do you sent your young girls abroad.? Only to taste the TIP CUTS! Why do yo export and cry for foreign currency? Just for fun? A school teacher’s knowledge is limited maximum to his school!
              Cut tips are can penetetrate more, they are polished, beautiful, tasty, they will never get tired! They do not have POL GUDU IN THEM! Your girls know about it. I know one of my BUDHIST friend went to KALEEL’S nursing home and got his tip cut. May be his wife would have tasted a one before in Middle East.

              Why only Pork! Go to Cambodia, there your community eats Dog Meat, Crow Meat, in Thailand and China they eat Snake! Frog! cockroaches! worm ! Human waste? etc. etc. go there you can taste all of them including Pork.

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    The govt and its extreme allies would do well to tone down the rhetoric and bring its house in order. There will be limit as to how far they can pursue their unholy agenda. Should there be any mistakes on either side and there is an ethnic holocaust then the full responsibility will fall on the president and his brother.

    Also there will definitely be an international fall out in the asian region which is home to 60% of the worlds 1.8 Bn muslims. Myanmar is a good example where despite the return to democracy the situation is spinning out of control. The OIC has already sounded the alarm and action is being taken to help those affected. Pressure is being brought on the regime through the UN.

    Muslims who have lived peacefully in this land for centuries are now being accused of monstrous crimes. These include the act of procreating frequently to increase their numbers, buying property at lower prices and doing business too well. These crimes include distributing free uswatte toffees to make the buddhist infertile and marrying sinhalese girls. Their dress code is also under severe attack and several women have been attacked while walking on the streets.

    Strange to see that the people behind such ridiculous accusations are people in holy robes and other super religous lay followers who want to take the law into their own hands. The police and the govt watch all these fantastic happenings in shock and awe.

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    The Muslims should start to think why this situation has arisen in Sri Lanka after all these years. All this talk e.g ‘Breeding like flies’ and other false propaganda, started when Muslims started to look different from the rest of the population, i.e became more ‘visible’ in the eyes of the mainstream. The only solution seems to be to start blending in again with the rest of the people, by discarding the Hijab, and other distinguishing characteristics, which gives a handle for hate mongers. France has done it by decree, but our Muslims can do it voluntarily to re-establish harmony in our Society.

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    One have to give credit to BBS planning while they beat up on locale Muslims businesses and Halal products deliberately avoid saying any thing inflammatory of Islam thus keeping the fundamentalist at bay in the world. If BBS were to draw a humorous cartoon about Muslims or Islam as it happen in West there would have been hell to pay in MR’s wonder of Asia. It is so Ironic Muslim fundamentalist who protest around the world issue Fatwa and Jihad in the name of Islam on a little provocation are so silent what’s happening to Muslim brothers and sisters in Sri Lanka. Is there a double standard ? of course not only the West is known for corrupt,unethical double standard’s.

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    Prof. Kumar David,
    I must say, I enjoy reading your hallucinations very much. I am glad, you have elevated yourself from Arab Spring to Futa Spring to Haltsdorf Spring to a completely new scheme for regime change. You seemed to have reached the emancipated stage at long last. Ah’ don’t forget, you must soon start the election campaign for your Presidential candidate and NGO representative Ven Sobitha. He has already presented his new constitution to Mahanayakas.
    Leela

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      Leela:
      I thought that there was an element of lunacy/idiocy missing from this discussion and now I know what it is – your contribution!
      Kumar David can write an article better with both hands tied behind his back than you can pen one of your ill-crafted pieces of praise to bigotry with both hands and your brain(?) working at warp speed!

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      Leela,
      Has Prof.Kumar David forgotten how Sri Lankan housemaid are been treated in Saudi Arabia and that the agents who send them are not worried about the poor Sri Lankan daughters and wives who are eager to become the sole bread-winners of their family? Why should the Sinhalese politicians worry about the 60 % of the Foreign exchange that come from domestic workers employed in Gulf countries. There are specialists among the Sinhalese and the Tamils who can generate foreign exchange and lift the country, if the Sinhalese politicians can only discard their communal line of thinking. There is no reason why Sri Lanka should join Bangaladesh, Phillipine and Indonesia by sending its women to the Gulf countries. GR is only a soldier and not an economist. The latest incident/news is that a Sri Lankan Sinhalese housemaid is been kicked and placed into a cell meant for dogs. There is a news item that the story of housemaids is a saga of human ordeal, a great migration of the weak and feeble. Though there is a separate Department for Protection of Workers with the revised Labour Law, it is sad to observe that none of the provisions had meaningful measures to prevent the abuses of these housemaids. It has been a continuing story that these housemaids were described as ‘possession of the right hand’ of their Saudi masters. There are instances of some thousands of Sri Lankan housemaids who ran away from their Saudi sponsors while some thousands deserted their employment. Therefore, it is not a surprise that such incidents germinate in the minds and eventually develop into hatred towards a specific community. Briefly it can be described as the after effect of the malignant economic policy of the government. Has any Muslim Minister raised any concern for the ill-treatment of the housemaids. At the same time, there is a news item that steps were taken by Muslim Minister Rishard Badiurdeen to sell a land at Kilinochchi, where there was a Hindu temple. Moreover, there is also a news item that the same Muslim Minister had taken steps to distribute lands at Mullaitivu area to his supporters when affected Tamils were just ignored. However, it appears that he had disappeared from the area on realizing the protests of the Tamils. Now I hear the BBS has started some protests at Weligama, for which Tamils (even I have signed the petition) have raised their voice for the Muslims. Now what do you think of this Minister Rishard Badurdeen, who appears not to be concerned about the protest at Weligama. How are my Muslim brothers going to account for it? This is the very reason, I always assert that the Sinhalese politicians should accommodate qualified persons (Sinhalese, Tamil or Muslims) who can formulate a sound economic policy focusing attention on the exploitation of available natural resources.

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        The best idea is to stop sending our young girls and women as migrant workers.

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          Agreed. We will have to educate our girls on this subject. Women NGO’s should address their mind on this aspect. After all, the Sinhalese women are also our sisters. You can see how this poor Sinhalese girl is been ill-treated over the YouTube.

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    Perhaps reader Citizen is aware for every $150-200 paid to one of our over-exploited maids monthly there is an Arab between the employer and the Agent at the other side who earns over $1,000 on each worker per month. I don’t question this – but what I do is that these workers are treated humanely; about 10 hours a day; a day off in the week and
    subject to health and other benefits prevalent in countries where average HR conditions are in force. It is our senior Ministers Fowzie, Moulana, Hakeem, that screaming Azwer and the like who should use their brotherly influence with the Arabs to get these just dues. They have not done this to date. Curiously when this is mentioned, those who call for this are called insulted, attacked and called anti-Islam??? I remember a discussion (Al Jazeera)sopme time ago when the plight of workers in the middle east was taken up. There was an Arab Professor who intervened and said “the pay we give and the conditions they work in may be bad. But the truth is what these people earn brings food to the plate of their families back home. At least now they have a job” said the learned man without batting even an eyelid??? So that is a different form of milk of human kindness.

    Senguttuvan

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    Lester,

    The fuel to be used on the Godra train had arrived a day earlier – and the miscreants too. Plans were made carefully to ensure the compartments were locked when the arson begins so that the Kar Sevaks are roasted within. It was a carefully planned attack planned by Pakistani intelligence to set alight much of India – where Muslims live in large numbers – like in Gujarat, the UP, Delhi and so on.
    The plan succeeded, Gujarat burned and India’s good reputation
    for secularism and safety to Muslims living among Hindus was tainted. But all that is history now. Today BJP in Gujarat fields Muslim candidates in Hindu electorates and wins. Modi has much to do to repair his image but the media has over-exaggerated issues to demonise him. The US, that refused to give him a Visa a few years ago, is about to receive him as the possible future PM of India. My guess is if he makes it he will go the extra mile to accommodate more Muslims into the fold. Indian Muslims are far more safer in India than here. But in Indian elections nothing is absolutely certain as the BJP Coalition learnt on the “India shining” programme.

    A stable Indian Central Govt is in the interest of peace and unity in Sri Lanka. It is sound diplomacy for the Rajapakses to build fences with the BJP and Modi.

    Senguttuvan

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      It is sound diplomacy for the Rajapakses to build fences with the BJP and Modi. I think what you meant to say was BUILD BRIDGES.

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        Or rather mend fences??

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        TTHE POWER BEHIND MODI IS OUR JJ? PLEASE DO NOT DREAM? YASWANT SINGHA OF BJP HAS ALREADY SIGNALED ELAM!. BBS AND ITS THUBS ARE LITTLE SAFE WITH CONGRESS!

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      Thanks for the info, Senguttuvan. ISI is desperate to destabilize India. The only thing preventing Pakistan from a full-scale attack on India are the size of India and India’s nuclear arsenal. Pakistan is very small by comparison, and if India used its nukes, Pakistan will permanently disappear from the map.

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    Shankar,

    Even if you did it first hand, anyone who has even a rudimentary knowledge of science should first try to find rational explanations that make sense. If a phenomenon cannot be explained then some scientists would have to study it to explain it. Supernatural causes are the least likely explanations but people jump to such causes before they have exhausted all rational possibilities.

    Let me address some more points before I end my posting in this thread for good.
    1.”I have not been speaking about religions to you,but scientific facts.”
    No, you have asserted you are a Hindu, and you have also asserted your faith in Ganesha. Isn’t that a contradiction? Those things speak clearly about religions.
    2. “look around you and think whether all this could come about by accident or coincidence or deliberate action.”
    It is entirely consistent with accidents or a random events happening over billions of years.
    3.”God works in mysterious ways they say.”
    If God is mysterious, then it stands to reason that no one knows anything about it. What then is the use in “believing” in the first place? Free will is not consistent with an omniscient, omnipotent God; nor would such a God care whether we little human beings in this infinite universe, believe in him or not.

    Man’s evolution has produced a cortical structure in the brain of many people that makes them believe—i.e., makes them remain oblivious of the contradictions in doing so—and neuroscience will continue to investigate it and come up with more answers. My hypothesis that remains to be proven: during millions of years of living as hunter gatherer, man faced constant danger as he faced wild animals in deep forests, etc., and imagining a protective supreme being gave him a way to confront such fear and soldier on.

    4.Now let me address an issue from your earlier post:
    “Science can explain most things ,but not the meaning of our existence.”

    Animals are routinely slaughtered for food; do they get to ask the meaning and purpose of their lives before man slaughters them? So why should man be any special, endowed with special meaning and purpose? This constant refrain of “meaning” and “purpose” comes from misleading information offered by religions, religious leaders and so-called ‘saints’ and ‘ascetics,’ who of course will keep saying some things to justify their own choices.

    Survival is man’s purpose; and the rest of what people should do is up to individuals, consistent with the norms of the society one is part of, and the cultural morality of the times.

    Of course, science still has a long way to go before explaining everything; one day we will know a lot more about life and some of what we claim to know now may be revised, but the claim that you can find meaning and purpose through religions is false.

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    Shankar
    The facts from Godhra
    FRONTLINE COVER STORY
    Volume 19 – Issue 15, July 20 – August 02, 2002

    Investigations into the burning of the Sabarmati Express at Godhra on February 27 seem to be directed to prove the Narendra Modi government’s conclusion that it was a pre-planned terrorist act.
    “It was a pre-planned attack. The charred bodies which I saw at Godhra railway station testified to the black deed of terrorism.”
    – Narendra Modi, Chief Minister of Gujarat, February 28, 2002.

    ON the day that the Sabarmati Express burned in Godhra, taking the lives of 59 passengers, Chief Minister Narendra Modi and his Sangh Parivar brotherhood had concluded that it was the result of a “terrorist” conspiracy.
    Since then, investigations into the case have been directed towards proving their theory. But more than four months after the incident, a number of questions remain unanswered. The charge-sheet filed by the Criminal Investigation Department (Crime) is vague about how the S/6 coach caught fire on the morning of February 27. It mentions that a mob of Muslims from Godhra burned the compartment. Details of how it was ignited are not mentioned. But, when contacted, police officials were unwilling to give any further details.

    AP
    The burning train at Godhra, February 27.

    There does not seem to be much evidence to prove that it was indeed a “pre-planned”, much less a “terrorist”, attack. The Forensic Science Laboratory (FSL) report has ruled out the possibility that the compartment was set on fire from outside by a mob. The report, which is part of the charge-sheet, states that, “no inflammable fluid had been thrown inside from outside the coach”. It also rejects the possibility that any inflammable liquid was thrown through the door of the bogie. The report concludes that around 60 litres of inflammable liquid was thrown by someone standing between the compartment and the northern side door of the bogie.

    Working on the assumption that the fire was caused by an inflammable liquid, the FSL team conducted an experiment at the spot of the incident, testing out various ways in which a fire could have been ignited. From the railway platform, the team threw buckets of water into the coach, whose window was seven feet above the ground. Only 10 to 15 per cent of the water entered the compartment. If the inflammable liquid was thrown from outside, the FSL report noted, then most of it would have fallen around the track outside and the resulting fire would have caused damage to the bottom of the outer part of the coach. But since this part of the coach was not burned severely, the report ruled out the possibility that inflammable fluid was thrown from outside.

    If the coach was set on fire from the inside, who did that? Passengers have given police statements saying that the windows and doors of the compartment were closed when the stone-throwing between kar sevaks on the train and local vendors on the platform began. This occurred when the train stopped for the first time outside the Parcel Office, a minute after it moved out of Godhra station (see box on the sequence of events). Yet, police investigators insist that the FSL report supports their contention that it was a “pre-planned conspiracy by local criminals” who entered the train and set it on fire. “Our investigations show that around 15 to 20 people from the mob entered the compartment with more than 60 litres of fuel and set it on fire. The FSL report also states that three doors of the compartment were open. They could have entered the compartment,” says a police officer investigating the case.

    But the doors may have been opened later while passengers escaped. One passenger, in his statement to the police, speaks of getting out through the door to his right. Moreover, none of the passengers has said in his/her police statement, that he/she had seen anyone enter the compartment. All of them stated that a mob set the coach on fire. Some kar sevaks in S/6 and adjoining compartments, who were interviewed by a newspaper, also ruled out the possibility of anyone from the mob having entered the compartment. They said that the doors were bolted from inside, and that later when they tried to open them, they were found locked from outside.

    Investigators have ruled out the possibility of the fire having been caused by an accident. “There was no fuel inside the train,” said an investigating officer. He dismissed the possibility that kar sevaks carried fuel for cooking on their journey. Grain was also found inside the compartment, but the investigator said that it belonged to a family that was travelling to its village for a wedding.

    EVER since the public disclosure of the FSL report, the Congress(I) has been accusing the Sangh Parivar of having masterminded the tragedy. “The FSL report shows that someone inside the train set it on fire. No Muslim could have entered the compartment. That too with 60 litres of petrol. The mentality of the VHP (Vishwa Hindu Parishad) leadership is such that they are even capable of killing their own kar sevaks for their own gain. Believe me, I know them very well,” alleges Shankarsinh Vaghela, a Congress(I) leader, who was with the Bharatiya Janata Party until a few years ago. No one could have entered the already crammed compartment unnoticed. The kar sevaks, who were aggressive throughout the journey, would not have allowed a Muslim in, he pointed out.

    Another point to be considered is that before the Godhra incident the kar sevaks had been creating trouble on the trains to and from Ayodhya. They harassed, bullied and abused Muslim passengers, and forced them to say “Jai Shree Ram”. Many non-Muslim passengers were also harassed and not allowed to sit on the seats that they had reserved for themselves. On the train that burned, even the ticket conductor was pushed out of a reserved compartment. Jan Morcha, a Hindi daily published from Ayodhya, carried a report on February 25 about how kar sevaks had harassed passengers, and even beaten some of them, on the Sabarmati Express. This was before February 27. Hours after the tragedy, Hindutva mobs attacked Muslim homes in several parts of Gujarat.

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    Dear Jamal,

    Tku. I stand corrected. Typo error. It should have read as Bridges.

    Senguttuvan

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    For every Muslim version of the Godhra massacre people manufacture, there is a hundred suggesting there was planned murder.
    The only thing that has so far not been said was that all 59 Kar Sevaks
    committed suicide.

    I am still waiting to see reports from similar sources to the Bombay attack and statements like “The mentality of the VHP (Vishwa Hindu Parishad) leadership is such that they are even capable of killing their own karsevaks for their own gain…” Only thing is that karsevaks did not have the guarantee of 72 virgins for each man in paradise. And it was the CIA behind the 9/11 carnage too.

    Senguttuvan

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      Dear Senguttuvan,
      Firstly I must show my appreciation on your prayer on behalf of the Muslim Community in another thread, as they face a possible pogrom. As regards your observations on this thread I must categorically state that I never passed judgement as to who was guilty in the Godhra Train Tragedy. The incident was mentioned by me since a mischievous attempt was made to put the blame on the Muslims unequivocally. I only quoted Justice Bannerjee’s conclusion and the Citizen’s Tribunal (comprising the most outstanding legal brains of the stature of Justices V.K. Krishna Iyer, P.B. Sawant, Hosbet Suresh and Adv. K.G. Kannabiran; eminent sociologists like Prof. Ghanshyam Shah and Prof. Tanika Sarkar; and social workers like Aruna Roy formed this tribunal.) report to show the other side of the story. The findings of the Indian Forensic Laboratory corroborated their conclusions! Whilst people can change in due time, and my fervent prayer is that Modi should do for the better, one cannot whitewash his past deeds blindly as there is overwhelming evidence that he incited the crowd to execute the pogrom! The best the Muslims could do now is forget the past and contribute to a stable and united India.
      In the course of our discussion, we may agree or disagree, I plead with you to maintain your stature as responsible journalist and not to cynically dig at our Islamic beliefs when it is not warranted. Leave this type of Journalism to Lester and Leela. Hence when I posted “The mentality of the VHP (Vishwa Hindu Parishad) leadership is such that they are even capable of killing their own karsevaks for their own gain…” it was not my opinion nor my statement but that of Shankarsinh Vaghela, a Congress(I) leader, who was earlier with the Bharatiya Janet Party
      You stated in response, only thing is that karsevaks did not have the guarantee of 72 virgins for each man in paradise . Let us respect each others beliefs as the founders of our great Religions wanted to and jointly condemn those who hijack their pristine teachings and spread terror and confusion.

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    As for the destruction of 911 it takes a lot of imagination to conclude an aircraft can bring such a structure down especially when it was designed for an impact of plane of similar dimensions with a liberal factor of safety!
    I reproduce below some salient facts from http://www.ae911truth.org
    The Twin Towers’ destruction exhibited all of the characteristics of destruction by explosives:
    Destruction proceeds through the path of greatest resistance at nearly free-fall acceleration
    Improbable symmetry of debris distribution
    Extremely rapid onset of destruction
    Over 100 first responders reported explosions and flashes
    Multi-ton steel sections ejected laterally
    Mid-air pulverization of 90,000 tons of concrete & metal decking
    Massive volume of expanding pyroclastic-like clouds
    1200-foot-diameter debris field: no “pancaked” floors found
    Isolated explosive ejections 20–40 stories below demolition front
    Total building destruction: dismemberment of steel frame
    Several tons of molten metal found under all 3 high-rises
    Evidence of thermite incendiaries found by FEMA in steel samples
    Evidence of explosives found in dust samples and exhibited none of the characteristics of destruction by fire:
    Slow onset with large visible deformations
    Asymmetrical collapse which follows the path of least resistance (laws of conservation of momentum would cause a falling, intact, from the point of plane impact, to the side most damaged by the fires)
    Evidence of fire temperatures capable of softening steel
    High-rise buildings with much larger, hotter, and longer-lasting fires have never collapsed
    Any engineer will find it hard to accept that the plane brought the twin towers down. Whether the Arabs placed the explosives or not is a different question!

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      More rubbish from someone who believes the earth is flat. Everyone knows who was behind 911: Bin-Laden and gang of Saudi terrorists.

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        Lester,
        Do you realize that sanity is slowly eroding from your mind? You are already exhibiting signs of Dementia. You seem to have forgotten that I answered you but guess you couldn’t comprehend it. You see the earth is approximately 7900 miles in diameter which should generate a circumference of say 25000 miles. Hence if you draw a tangent of 100 yards along such a circle, the straight line (tangent) and that part of the circle will coincide giving the impression that portion of the earth is indeed flat.! Got it? As for the 911 rubbish visit http://www.investigate911.org and you will find evidence on the use of nano thermite. Nano thermite
        was manufactured only by about three companies and only the government of the US had access to its use. If you can convince that Bin Laden had these research and manufacturing capacity in the caves of Afghanistan then your claim is tenable. Anyway here is some reading matter to enlighten your dark mind.

        Nano-thermite explosives were gathered from the WTC debris shortly after the towers fell on 9/11. Brigham Young University Physics Professor, Dr. Steven Jones, discovered the explosives and joined an international team of nine scientists for further analysis. Through extensive laboratory testing, the scientists concluded that the samples were Nano-thermitic explosives. After a rigorous peer-review process, their paper was published in the Bentham Chemical Physics Journal, which has been endorsed by Nobel Laureates and is respected within the scientific community.

        The paper’s first author is Dr. Niels Harrit, a 37-year Professor of Chemistry at Copenhagen University in Denmark and an expert in Nano-chemistry, who says, “The official account put forth by NIST violates the fundamental laws of physics.”

        Government and independent evidence corroborates Thermitic explosives used to bring down all three WTC Towers on 9/11. (sources 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8)

        Over a thousand architects, engineers, academics, and high-ranking military officers, as well as hundreds of 9/11 firemen, survivors, and family members have challenged the government’s conspiracy theory. Twenty-five military officers call the official 9/11 story, “Impossible”, “Ludicrous”, “A well-organized cover-up”. Forty-one U.S. counter-terrorism and intelligence agency veterans challenge the official 9/11 account, calling it, “terribly flawed”, “laced with contradictions”, “a joke”, “a cover-up”.
        That’s for your concerns on 911.

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          @Jamal,

          Your post of April 11, 2013, 5:11 am is called a conspiracy theory and shows that your level of logic is less than that of a small child.

          Hence if you draw a tangent of 100 yards along such a circle, the straight line (tangent) and that part of the circle will coincide giving the impression that portion of the earth is indeed flat.!

          Again you are admitting that Quran says Earth is flat. Like I said, your mindset belongs to the 14th century.

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            Read the post above. Over two thousand leading Engineers, Architects, Physicists and a whole lot of others have debunked this “CONSPIRACY THEORY” . This is not in the US alone. If you cannot understand this your brain must have eroded beyond repair!!!
            If I find it difficult to explain, in this century, that the surface of a spherical cap tends to a flat surface when the diameter of the sphere tends to infinity to the so called “mathematician Lester ” then one can understand why allegorical language is used to explain things to ordinary people . Lester the inveterate liar harps on the Quran says the Earth is flat ad nauseam when it doesn’t. You can repeat this in you mad stupor till the cows come home for all we care but the QURAN DOES NOT SAY THE EARTH IS FLAT IN SHAPE .

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              The Islamic apologist Jamal, who also thinks 911 was caused by a “controlled demolition”, refuses to accept his favorite book of mythology, the Quran, says Earth is flat. Let me give a few examples, although there are many more.

              Qur’an 20:53

              Allathee jaAAala lakumu al-ardamahdan wasalaka lakum feeha subulan waanzala mina alssama-imaan faakhrajna bihi azwajan min nabatinshatta
              He Who has, made for you the earth like a carpet spread out; has enabled you to go about therein by roads (and channels); and has sent down water from the sky.” With it have We produced diverse pairs of plants each separate from the others.
              Qur’an 20:53

              مَهْدًا = mahdan = (Noun) cradle or bed, (verb) flatten , smoothen, smooth, level, cement, grade, ram, plane, roll, flat, level off.
              Qur’an 43:10

              Allathee jaAAala lakumu al-ardamahdan wajaAAala lakum feeha subulan laAAallakum tahtadoona
              (Yea, the same that) has made for you the earth (like a carpet) spread out, and has made for you roads (and channels) therein, in order that ye may find guidance (on the way);
              Qur’an 43:10

              مَهْدًا = mahdan = (Noun) cradle.or bed, (verb) flatten , smoothen , smooth , level , cement , grade , ram , plane , roll , flat , level off
              Qur’an 50:7

              Waal-arda madadnahawaalqayna feeha rawasiya waanbatnafeeha min kulli zawjin baheejin
              And the earth- We have spread it out, and set thereon mountains standing firm, and produced therein every kind of beautiful growth (in pairs)-
              Qur’an 50:7

              مَدَدْ = madad = protract , reach , elongate , extend , draw out , lengthen, stretch out , spread out , sprawl , dilate , reach , range , unwind , outstretch , pervade , lengthen

              Again and again, Quran says Earth is like a carpet. I have never seen a carpet that is not flat.

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              @lester has his buried his head in the sands of ignorance. He himself unwittingly has contradicted his postulate that the Qur’an states that the EARTH IS FLAT in shape. Let us take the passages he mentions.

              He Who has, made for you the earth like a carpet spread out;
              has made for you the earth (like a carpet) spread out,
              And the earth- We have spread it out,
              مَدَدْ = madad = protract , reach , elongate , extend , draw out , lengthen, stretch out , spread out , sprawl , dilate , reach , range , unwind , outstretch , pervade , lengthen/p>


              Note the meanings of the word “madad” ? I ask the CT reader to question what is the logic in “FLATTENING, SPREADING OUT, UNWINDING etc if the original shape is flat? A carpet is a roll and hence you have to un-roll it for its purpose! Hence the Earth whose shape is referred to as “DAHAHA” ( one of its meanings is an Ostrich egg which is closely resembles an oblate spheroid). I think this is sufficient to expose this charlatan who is masquerading as a Scholar! I do not wish to add to Lester’s Troll any further. PEACE

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              CORRECTIONS:
              To read:
              Lester has his head buried in the sands of ignorance
              Ostrich egg which closely resemble an oblate spheroid.

              As for 911, I wish to align myself with Mr. Richard Gage AIA, Mr. Zdeněk P. Bažant, Professor of Civil Engineering and Materials Science at Northwestern University, and a whole host of PHD’s and other eminent scientists, some of them the foremost authorities in their chosen field. All whom are convinced that the planes did not bring the towers down! Lester are you aware of WTC Building # 7? It came down a short while after the twin towers did without any impact from any plane! And do you know that both BBC and CNN announced its collapse before it occurred? NOW HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?

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    The Proff is simply confirming what is deeprooted and symptomatic of the Sinhala Race. The attack on the Muslim Community is a continuation of what they have been doing since independance and sadly they will not stop untill they have entniclly cleansed Sri Lanka. The attack on Halal meat is just an excuse to attack the Muslim Community. The Jews prepare the meat in exactly the same way as the Muslims by slitting the throat and draining the blood so why one is not criticised but the other. May be through fear as Israel will send Tomahawks.
    Political extremism by the Rajapakse Clan is feeding on the Religious Extremism by BBS, the Monks and other fringe groups. One is complementing the other as they both have things in common and the very few decent Sinhalse have now becom an endangered species and will be extinct in a few years.

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