14 August, 2018

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Bishop Thiagarajah Accuses The Jaffna College Trustees Of Misappropriating Funds

In a hard-hitting statement issued by the Board of Directors of Jaffna College, Bishop Daniel Thiagarajah, Chair of the Board, has accused the Trustees of Jaffna College Funds for misappropriating the Trust funds for the purpose of paying their legal fees. The statement notes that the Trustees have laid down unnecessary and unreasonable demands since January 2017. The statement also observes that the Principal of the College and the Board of Directors worked hard to address those demands but the Trustees unreasonably insist on the resignation of the Chair and Vice Chair of the Board. Click here to read the statement in full.

Bishop Daniel Thiagarajah

The alumni who commented on the statement argue that this statement is yet another attempt by Bishop Thiagarajah to mislead and misinform the public. They claim the statement or a draft of it was never shared with the Alumni Representative to the Board before it was finalized and circulated. The Alumni Representative recently came out in full support of the demands put forward by the Trustees of Jaffna College Funds including the resignation of the Chair and Vice Chair. He also voiced his position at the last Board meeting where the Trustees’ letter was tabled. 

The alumni who spoke to Colombo Telegraph pooh-poohed many of the allegations made by Bishop Thiagarajah in the statement. For instance, they note even before the 1963 amendment to the Trust deed funds were granted to institutions other than Jaffna College.

The original Trust deed of 1877 (click here to view the Trust Deed) states the following:

“The purpose for which the Corporation is constituted is to obtain, hold and manage funds for supporting Jaffna College, an educational institution located at Vaddukoddai, Jaffna District, Island of Ceylon.”

Bishop Sabapathy Kulandran notes in his book, which details the history of Jaffna College, that a change was made to the original Trust deed in 1964. The amended Trust deed (click here to read it) states the following:

“For the purpose of obtaining, holding, and managing funds for support of Jaffna College, an educational institution located at Vaddukoddai, Jaffna District, Island of Ceylon and for supporting other Christian educational institutions in Ceylon and India and for training Christian workers in Ceylon and India.”

Even though Bishop Kulandran was deeply critical of the amendment to the Trust deed and the unilateral way in which it was done by the Trustees (page 288, A History of Jaffna College, 1983) he had earlier, before the Trust deed was amended, praised the Trust for supporting the United Theological College in Bangalore, India. The JDCSI newsletter co-authored by Bishop Kulendran in 1956 states the following:

The United Theological College was founded in 1910 as a result of many conferences between the Missions working in South India and Ceylon.  Inspite of our almost negligible size in comparison with South Indian Mission areas we sent up two students to the very first batch that enrolled at Bangalore.  Since its foundation, Bangalore one of the chief sources from which Christian churches in India have drawn their Workers.  Bangalore, however, is supported almost exclusively by grants made by Missions from Year to year. In this respect the Trustees of Jaffna College in Boston have been very generous and in fact are the greatest contributing unit towards the support of Bangalore. (p.xxi, JDCSI 9th Bulletin, 1956)

This newsletter demonstrates very clearly that the Trust funds were used for institutions other than Jaffna College even before the amendment was made and Bishop Kulendran did not object to this practice at the time although he was later critical of the moves on the part of the Trustees to direct the funds to institutions that had no connection with Jaffna College. From this newsletter, it becomes clear that those who were at the helm of the JDCSI and Jaffna College Board in the past saw a broader purpose for the Trust funds although “Jaffna College” appears in the name of the Trust. The alumni of the College continue to debate among themselves even today whether the Trust funds could be used for purposes other than those of Jaffna College.  

Multiple views exist among the alumni about the allegation that the Trustees have made use of the Trust funds to pay the legal fees. While some argue that the Trustees should take every legal step, including seeking legal advice, necessary to ensure that the money sent to Jaffna College is used in an appropriate manner for appropriate purposes by the Board in Sri Lanka and the College administration, others are of the view that the Trustees should have raised funds separately to meet their legal expenses. Some others note what the Trustees have done is well within their legal mandate. The Trustees are yet to clarify the allegations levelled against them. 

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    A predictable response, one might say!
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    This is almost a pathetically inadequate response from me. I hope that the people of Jaffna will answer this man more forcefully.
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    I wish I could say something more relevant than this: let us not forget what other Bishops have done:
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    https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/bishop-shantha-francis-and-the-diaspora/
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    That’s Shantha Francis pretending that he didn’t steal from the common weal belonging to us all when he drew his dead mother-in-law’s pension for five years. and yet he’s not in jail!
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    These are the death throes of Daniel Theagarajah. I’ve read his letter as well. What a waste of our time, after the Bostonians have lost their money. I’ve read the letters of Ed Bedrosian, as well as the Chair of the Boston Congregationalists before him. We can sense the difference in quality of these local crooks, and the upright and generous guys in Boston.

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      Local Crooks are the main enemy not Foreigners

      If the clergy is not leading the way in accountability who will?

      ” Watath , Nearath Goyam Ka Nam carta pawasami A amaruwa? “

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      Sinhala_Man,
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      The other article has been closed for comments so that I will comment here.
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      I knew about the Catholics not being Protestant (Note how clever I am!) but was surprised that even Evangelicals have a problem despite being NRC. I think that it is partly because they are split into many small churches and obviously NCC cannot accommodate hundreds of small churches. Only the AoG is organized the rest of the Evangelicals not.
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      I have heard that the so called break away church from JDCSI is not a member of the NCC due to influence from a certain Methodist politician whose name cannot be mentioned.

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        Dear Lone Wolf,
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        The pattern in all societies has been that people remain in the faith (and its institutions) that they were born in to. The Evangelicals are challenging that by drawing young people away from the traditional churches. So, it’s little wonder that the established churches are worried. Remember that while those in our generation have five or six siblings at least (seven in my family, counting me), the baby boom is gone throughout “the World”.
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        Sri Lanka’s population mau still be increasing, but I feel that it has stabilised even among the Catholics. Most Protestants know some English, and the migration rate is pretty high – among all those with a smattering even of English. So, the Churches have cause to be concerned – unless, like the Quakers whom I have referred to, who don’t worry about posting high affiliation numbers.
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        The young people who flock to the Evangelicals (after they become financially independent – well, I guess that they’re there – or it may be that they don’t bother about religion – or any other serious concern, unfortunately) – anyway, those who flock are probably quite sincere, but there may be little difference between a service there and a rock concert.
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        Many Evangelical Churches are rackets.
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        You’r clever, yes. But I’m still recovering from the shock of finding you totally ignorant of Kumar Sangakkara (who is a Buddhist). His wife was with my daughters in school, and HER father is one of the pillars of the Anglican Church in Maharagama. A very sincere man.
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        About the breakaway from the JDSI, I think that you are right.

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        I may be wrong but I do not believe Sumanthiran has so much influence with the National Christian Council. With the Methodists, perhaps. Against any Methodist support, the more powerful Constituent of the NCC, the Anglican Church of Ceylon will reckon it as wrong to go against the CSI, the Anglican Church in South India. Remember, a CSI priest can celebrate the Eucharist at an Anglicans altar here but not Minister from the breakaway group.

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    “The alumni of the College continue to debate among themselves even today whether the Trust funds could be used for purposes other than those of Jaffna College.”
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    Yes, indeed. And the debate quite appropriately includes the question whether there is any siphoning off on the part of Bishop Thiagarajah and his accomplices on the Board as well.

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    Now both sides are allegedly misappropriating funds and retaining lawyers. Is any money left for students and staff?

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    The Bishop’s letter having several loose ends raises some interesting questions. He waxes indignant accusing the trustees of blatant violation of legal and ethical duty, misappropriation and duplicity. When the Trustees are confronted with a legal challenge, it seems inevitable that they must either give in, or use funds under their charge to pay for lawyers. Anyone has the right to seek an explanation. However, to describe the Trustees’ direction of their funds to mission concerns outside Jaffna College (and Uduvil GC?) as misappropriation seems excessive, considering that it went unchallenged for a long time.
    More serious, and ruinous, however, is the Bishop’s unilateral change of the Jaffna College Constitution to make himself Chairman of a servile Board and in effect its chief financial officer, besides making all other appointments, and whom no one was willing to challenge.
    One could guess who are the lawyers who drafted the Bishop’s letter. The letter and interviews he has given suggest that he will mount a legal challenge in the US. Where will the money come from?

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      Jaffna Citizen,
      “When the Trustees are confronted with a legal challenge, it seems inevitable that they must either give in, or use funds under their charge to pay for lawyers. Anyone has the right to seek an explanation.”
      The trustees have full right to use funds from the Trust to defend themselves against any legal action from others. How will the Board of Directors without any serious money left match the financial resources of the Trustees? They can maybe use part of the grant they received some weeks ago from the trustees but then the salaries of the staff will not be paid.
      “However, to describe the Trustees’ direction of their funds to mission concerns outside Jaffna College (and Uduvil GC?) as misappropriation seems excessive, considering that it went unchallenged for a long time.”
      Until now the Chair of Jaffna College and Uduvil Girls’ College has not had problems with receiving grants for both schools. UGC has received almost as much money as Jaffna College annually and is not in any way part of Jaffna College.
      “One could guess who are the lawyers who drafted the Bishop’s letter. The letter and interviews he has given suggest that he will mount a legal challenge in the US. Where will the money come from?”
      Let us not forget that the initial reaction of the Chair early 2017 was to take the trustees to court. Some months ago 20,000 USD (about rs 3300,000) was transferred to lawyers retained by the Board of Directors in USA to take legal action against the trustees. The money came from an account of the Board of Directors in Commercial Bank in the form of two bank drafts of 10,000 USD each. The irony is that the Chair is using money from the trustees to fight the trustees. Did the board of the school ever decide to transfer money to USA or even discuss it?

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    I heard Maha Ven Gnanasara was a dean at Ruhunu university for a brief period time. During his tenure there was no corruption. We have to elect him or similar leaders to Jaffna University.

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      What about Gnanasara?

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    You are almost right. Bishop says his statement that he gave that much of money for legal expenses from diocesan fund. But I also know the Commercial bank cheques named as Board of Directors of Jaffna College had transferred by his brother late Rev.G.J.Thiagarajah. This transaction matter also didn’t tabled in Board meeting.

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    Alumni Jaff,

    The media release that I have read does not mention sending money to the USA so that there must be several statements. Anyway if what you write is true we have new questions:
    Why does the JDCSI fund a legal case of one of the schools and who in the church approved the transaction of more than 3 million? I assume that the money was first transferred to an account of the Board of the school and then to USA with the late brother of the Chair being in control. The late brother must have been authorized to operate bank accounts of the school and maybe even the JDCSI.

    From the above we can deduct that the school had no money.

    This transfer and others like it may well be the reason for the Bishop not having presented any kind of accounts of the school or the church.

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    While accusing the Trustees of using money from the Trust to pay legal costs of the Trust the Board of Directors of Jaffna College publicly declares that it has used money from the Church of South India for the legal expenses of the Board. Somebody kindly explain the logic of the Directors.

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    “The Trustees are yet to clarify the allegations levelled against them.”

    What is there to clarify? Of course the Trust pays for, for instance, accounting, auditing, investment services and legal advice of the Trust assuming these services are bought from outsiders.

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    Yet more allegations.
    We are being called allegators (misspelt intentionally).
    Appeal to both sides: Time to take action.

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      Good one brother

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    The Need to Move with caution
    The most important question confronting Jaffna College is: what does it produce? If what it produces is unquestionably of value, there would be a demand on the Trustees to raise funds rather than to merely disburse funds from an income of around one million dollars per annum coming from investments. That too seems a very modest return on assets valued at USD 26 million according to the returns furnished by the Trustees in November 2017.
    The Trustees have spent USD 879,000 of which Program Service expenses are USD 637,000 and Management and General Expenses are USD 242,000. Those familiar with NGOs deem the latter extremely disproportionate for an organisation that does not raise funds. Among the latter expenses are nearly 82,000 in wages, 84,000 in Legal fees and 13,000 in Accounting fees.
    It says support for Jaffna College education is USD 352,000 and disbursements to Day Care and Children’s Homes USD 285,000. I cannot clarify how Uduvil GC and the breakaway church are served.
    We learn that the Bishop’s case is being prepared by an MP close to him and his assistant, and will centre on alleged imbalances in the Trustees’ handling of funds.
    In some ways Jaffna College faces a similar question that confronts Jaffna University: What does it produce against the guaranteed flow of colossal funds? That is the main question to be resolved and the same MP who promised to put things right at Jaffna University has done nothing.
    The legal battle over Jaffna College promises to be another colossal waste of funds, that will be charged either way to Jaffna College and the Church. A victory for either side promises to be a Pyrrhic victory taking us back to square one – the key unresolved question. It is here that the well-wishers will stand or fall.

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      Dear Jaffna Citizen,

      I think US$ 285, 000 includes allocation for Uduvil. I can also say that it is a huge amount based on the letter sent by the Trustees in January 2017. A separate amount for Uduvil for the year 2017 appears in the Trustees’ letter dated 5 January 2017. The amount is US$ 231, 412.

      If the funds are to remain in the US, the management costs are unavoidable. Until 2016, the Trustees did not spend any money on legal fees. They had to pay the legal fees mainly because they had to consult their lawyers before preparing the letters to the JC and UGC Boards in January 2017.

      The Trustees offered to train somebody from the College in fundraising but the request was declined.

      It is disappointing the said MP continues to support the Chair of the Board. Very sad. People who have a very high respect for the MP feel we have been let down by the MP.

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    It is a joke , so too Jaffna College & JDCSI.

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    We have to give the Chairman a chance to express his views. There is a 30+ minutes film where he is at the Jaffna Press Club on Saturday. Since posting links is not allowed try searching for “Jaffna College hosted a press conference at Jaffna Press Club in Jaffna on 4th August. Bishop Thiagarajah.”

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      Dear Lone Wolf,
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      You’ve given us 17 words to put in the Google browser. Drew a blank.
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      What do you mean by saying, “posting links is not allowed”. We’re doing it all the time. Particularly Native Vedda.
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      What you tell us is important. Please give us the link.

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        Sinhala_Man,
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        I posted the link but my comment has not been published. Not yet any way. You can find the film on the home page of Jaffna Diocese of Church of South India.

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          Thanks, Lone Wolf,
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          If this is what you mean, it is all in Tamil; I can’t understand it, except that there are a few phrases like “conflict of interests” towards the end.
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          http://www.csijaffnadiocese.org/

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        Bishop D. S. Thiagarajah’s press conference at Jaffna.

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    I respond to issues raised here and in the previous post on Jaffna College by Lone Wolf and Frank. One need not, as a Christian, be apologetic about Christian educational institutions, if they carry at heart the motto: “Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king (1 Peter 2:17)”. I am glad they were there, for it is where I encountered great men and women who fashioned my ideals. Many non-Christians feel the same.
    Today, these institutions face a crisis of purpose, and it is heartening to see many non-Christians trying to put them back on track rather than derail them.
    Two aspects of the crisis are truthfulness and financial probity.
    As regards Jaffna College, it is generally agreed that a main problem is the Bishop having too much power. It goes back to Bishop Ambalavanar’s period where the Church also became an intermediary for large relief funds, which put a strain on probity.
    In the face of serious questions about the rival candidate, Bishop Jebanesan in 2006 pushed for the ordination in India of Thiagarajah, rather than give time for matters to cool off. The late Ben Bavinck shared with me some of the correspondence between Jebanesan and Dayanchand Carr, Head of the Tamil Nadu Theological Seminary. I understand that some damning admissions were made in the exchange, verbally when not in writing, among which was that large sums given for tsunami relief changed hands to enable the ordination.
    That history is part of why the matter has become so intractable. A legal hearing would be costly and destructive. The problem is to unwind while minimising the personal damage to individuals concerned.

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      Rajan Hoole,
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      “That history is part of why the matter has become so intractable.”
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      A history of funds MIA?
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      “A legal hearing would be costly and destructive.”
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      Yes but I am afraid that we will soon see a local and a US case.
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      “The problem is to unwind while minimising the personal damage to individuals concerned.”
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      I am sure that many of the involved want to maximize personal damage.
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      Thanks.

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        Dear Lone Wolf,
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        What is MIA – apart from Mathangi Maya Arulpragasam? You see how much I know!
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        Thanks also to Dr Rajan Hoole for that solid comment.
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        But then, when were Rajan’s comments not solid?

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          To the CT Editor and S.R.H. Hoole
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          Part 1 of 2:
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          PLEASE NOTE: I am making a response here to a false accusation by S.R.H Hoole, dated Aug 9 under a previous article. I am forced to respond here, only because the provision for Comments is somehow not functional within that article any more, an article not totally unrelated to the present article.
          Under the article titled “Jaffna College: Muthuratnanandan’s Election As Staff Representative Unconstitutional”, dated July 30, 2018(Link: https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/jaffna-college-muthuratnanandans-election-as-staff-representative-unconstitutional/#comments dated July 30, 2018, I made the following response to a Comment by Asha, dated August 5.
          “The recent initiatives towards “Christian University in the North”, “Christian education for the North”, “Christian majoritarian advantage in the City of Jaffna” (as Hoole described in a recent write-up) are all worrisome developments that need to be nipped in the bud for the imminent danger that such divisive and idiotic concepts can cause to the entire society.”

          S.R.H. Hoole responded on August 9, 2018 as follows:
          “As before, this Kumar R is attributing to me words I have never used: He claims in quotation marks: ‘Christian majoritarian advantage in the City of Jaffna (as Hoole described in a recent write-up) “
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          Here is the response I would like to make to S.R.H. Hoole:
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          Jeevan,
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          Please revisit your article titled “In Jaffna Where The God’s Are Deaf” dated April 21, 2018 (https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/in-jaffna-where-the-gods-are-deaf/comment-page-1/#comments.)
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          Here are two of your statements in that article: “The District Secretariats of Delft with 2811 (61.62%) Christians, and Jaffna with 29613 Christians (49.36%), are the only District Secretariats where Christians are in majority.” “Success in reversing Christian advantage can come only in Jaffna…”
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          Would you STILL deny making reference to Christian majoritarian advantage in the City of Jaffna?

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          Part 2 of 2:
          Do you now realize how foolish it was to make such a brazen denial and make that in such an obnoxious manner.
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          What is even more puerile is that, a few paragraphs above in that same article you had condemned as Hindutva fanaticism “if voting decision is made on religious lines!” When I pointed out your bigotry you went mum, not unlike in the many occasions in the recent past when you found yourself at a loss to defend your thoughtless statements (remember your vile statements condemning poor Sinhala illiterate women folk of Katubedda?).
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          In fact, in response to my pointing out your bigotry, Sinhala_Man, one of your ardent followers, made the following comment: “Yes, you have a point there, Kumar R. I consider Prof. Jeevan Hoole to be a great and good man, with a surprisingly poor grasp of logic.”
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          Jeevan, when exposed of your irrational self-serving deviance, you promptly resort to the classic, narcistic Trumpian defense of baseless denials and distraction by blaming personal hatred and false media! And your cohorts (not unlike the notable 30% segment of US population unshakably entranced by the vile Trump) defend you by attempting to normalize your pathetic, self-serving advocations.
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          I eagerly await a response to the words about Christian majoritarian advantage you sought to now deny – a proper response, even if not as a courageous intellect, a true Christian, or one of ethical up-bringing, at least as a plain human being that is not a stranger to fundamental rights and wrongs!

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            Now you are going to trigger off a lot of statements of what a paragon of virtue SRH Hoole is.

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          Sinhala_Man,
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          https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/missing_in_action
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          Missing in Action.
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          I have now posted two links.

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            Dear Lone Wolf,
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            I’m just beginning to realise how dumb I am!
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            Yes, MIA is a relatively common acronym.

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      One can ignore what happened during the Bishop’s election in India. But Bishop T ignored and alienated some really good, trustworthy people when they offered to help build Jaffna College. Instead of identifying talented and able persons, he hand in glove supported people who intimidate and bully others. Then some people who opposed his leadership returned to the Diocese for purely selfish reasons, he gave them jobs at Jaffna College. He could have allowed them to have membership in the Diocese. But why did he give them jobs at JC and UGC? He could have also inducted honest, outspoken people and people integrity to the Board. Some who are serving the Board now are either incapable to handle serious administrative issues or constrained by other factors such as age. The Board could have been wiser about administrative appointments.

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      “… that large sums given for tsunami relief changed hands to enable the ordination”
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      Let me get this straight. Let’s talk in plain language. “changed hands” is an euphemism used by slick journalists to gloss over corporate crime. Are you saying money that was donated to help poor tsunami victims was stolen, and that stolen money was used to bribe (whom?) to make Thiagarajah a Bishop? Does that mean Thiagarajah was not qualified – morally, professionally, or both – to be ordained? [Now this is the way Jesus taught his followers to talk.] If money was indeed stolen the culprits must be exposed and brought before a court.

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        Ajay,
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        I have never understood the details of how the Bishop became the Bishop. The details including alleged bribery are not even known but something went wrong, many opposed him, left the church and filed court cases that continue.
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        JDCSI has problems to pay salaries and pensions. Some buildings are in bad shape. At the same time the Bishop according to “Reformist Letters” spends a lot of money having accommodation and staff in Colombo and Jaffna traveling between the two places. Somebody claimed here that 30+ lakh was recently given to Jaffna College. Think that last year the Bishop got a 90+ lakh vehicle.
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        Since the congregation is small and not very wealthy there is suspicion that funds of the schools have ended up used by the church.

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          Dear Lone Wolf,
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          I’m afraid that I can be a bit eccentric sometimes. I was busy last week-end, and posted a lot of musings on many subjects (including education and schooling), here:
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          https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/mmda-who-is-blocking-reform-of-this-discriminatory-law/
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          I’ve also suddenly realised that I had promised to be in Colombo tomorrow.
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          Fortunately for me, CT seems to be tolerant of somw comments that are irrelevant in the places that they’ve been put in.

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    To the CT Editor,
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    Why did the provisions for “Comments” and “Reply” that follows are not available under the article titled “Jaffna College: Muthuratnanandan’s Election As Staff Representative Unconstitutional”, dated July 30, 2018.
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    Link: https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/jaffna-college-muthuratnanandans-election-as-staff-representative-unconstitutional/#comments
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    Please check if there is some glitch that is not permitting further comments.
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    Thank you

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    Dear Kumar R,
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    Just above this “Comments Box”, this, among other things, is said:
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    “Commenting is automatically shut off on articles after 10 days.”
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    Need more be said as to why commenting on an article first published on July 30th is not possible? If you feel that the ground rules ought to be changed that is a different matter.

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      Dear S_M,

      Thank you for pointing that time limit that I had not noticed so far – actually this long, several years. My fault!

      And, no I am more than fine with that provision – it makes good sense.

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      My Dear Sinhala_Man:
      Thank you for all the great information and the valuable link you have provided. I’m now in the process of mastering it. Hope I get it right.You seem to be an all round nice guy.
      Thank you once again.
      Ajay

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    You’re welcome, dear Ajay.
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    I’m testing this, with nothing in bold, to see whether what I warned you about has happened.
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    That is to say, that unless the last word (or even full-stop) of your comment does not get in using “normal lettering”, there is a danger of all comments following it getting in to bold, italics, or whatever.
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    This may be a problem peculiar to Colombo Telegraph – which they ought to put right.
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    You’ve forgotten to provide a link to the article below which I gave you that link (it’ll help other readers) and also you’ve forgotten to try out paragraphing using commas.
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    On second thoughts, I have here put nine words (above) in to bold. If you put in too many, I think that CT is forced to cancel them, for reasons already stated earlier by me.

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