29 September, 2020

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Clarification On Stoning To Death

By Izeth Hussain

Izeth Hussain

Izeth Hussain

An increase in Islamophobia has to be expected after the Paris bombings by the IS, and a further increase in Sri Lanka because of the condemnation to death by stoning of a Sri Lankan female convicted of adultery. In this situation there is a need for the Sri Lankan public, including the Muslims, to get their minds clear on the correct Islamic position on the punishment for adultery.

There is no sanction in the Koran, none whatever, for death by stoning for adultery. Adultery is covered in the Koran in verse 32 of Sura 17 and in verses 2-10 of Sura 24. The punishment prescribed is one hundred lashes each for the man and the woman. There is no mention of stoning to death. An important point is that for conviction for adultery there has to be four witnesses. For anyone bearing false witness the punishment prescribed is eighty lashes. It is interesting that even to sustain charges of murder just two witnesses suffice whereas for adultery it is double that number. I must emphasize the point that providing proof of adultery is made extremely difficult, almost impossible, and that the punishment for making unsubstantiated charges of adultery is almost as severe as for adultery.

How then does the question of stoning to death for adultery arise at all? There are two primary sources of Islamic law, one of which is the Koran and the other is the Hadiths, the Traditions of the Prophet meaning what he said and what he did. It is claimed that Omar the second Caliph of Islam started the practice of stoning to death for adultery because a hadith had enjoined it. However, today no more than just four Islamic countries out of over fifty resort to that form of punishment. The explanation, I believe, is that according to Islam the Koran is the word of God and therefore no hadith can supersede it. A hadith to be acceptable as a basis for Islamic law should be consistent with what the Koran says and consonant with the spirit of what it says. Therefore to impose the inhuman and horrifying form of death by stoning when the Koran says nothing about it is, I hold, unIslamic.

Wahabism is the official form of Islam in Saudi Arabia. The historical record shows that it has never had mass appeal and is still regarded as an aberrant form of Islam by orthodox Muslims despite all the petro-dollars spent to propagate it. Therefore the horrors perpetrated in the name of Islam in Saudi Arabia don’t justify any increase in Islamophobia in Sri Lanka. But the Sri Lankan Muslims must declare unequivocally – to whatever extent might be possible – that stoning to death for adultery is an anti-Islamic practice.

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    A very good explanation and concise. This should put to rest the current controversy. Bensen

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      Izeth Hussain

      “There is no sanction in the Koran, none whatever, for death by stoning for adultery. Adultery is covered in the Koran in verse 32 of Sura 17 and in verses 2-10 of Sura 24. The punishment prescribed is one hundred lashes each for the man and the woman. There is no mention of stoning to death. An important point is that for conviction for adultery there has to be four witnesses. For anyone bearing false witness the punishment prescribed is eighty lashes”

      Yes.

      That is the Difference Between Islam and Iblism, Wahhabism and its Clones.

      The Saudi Follow Iblis, and pretend to be Muslims.

      What a farce.

      They want to kill Shia, Ahmedia, Sufis and all the non-Wahhabis.

      The Quran warns about Iblis and ( Wahhabis) over 25 times.

      The Satan, Iblis even messed things up with the satanic verses.

      If Prophet Mohamed could be fooled by the Satan, it should be no problem fooling the stupid Saudi Wahhabi.

      Hadith of Najd

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith_of_Najd

      According to two narrations in Sahih Bukhari, Muhammad asks Allah to bless the areas of Bilad al-Sham (Syria) and Yemen. When his companions said “Our Najd as well,” he replied: “There will appear earthquakes and afflictions, and from there will come out the side of the head (e.g. horns) of Satan.”[1][2] In a similar narration, Muhammad again asked Allah to bless the areas Medina, Mecca, Sham, and Yemen and, when asked specifically to bless Najd, repeated similar comments about there being earthquakes, trials, tribulations, and the horns of Satan.

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        Im not going to put my wife in a Hijab, Im not going to pht my daugter in a burka and Im not going to get in my all fours and praying to Mecca and you can drop dead if you don’t like it. You can shove it up your pipe. I don’t want to hear about Islam, I dont want to hear one more word about Islam. Take your religion and shove it up your behind. Im sick of you! Christian Bible has been revived several times, Jewish Bible has been revived several times, but Not the Quran thou- they still live in the seventh century. What Quran teaches you is Kill homosexuals, cut the clitoris of women,put women in dark clothing, cut off anyones head who doesn’t agree with you. WHAT KIND OF RELIGION IS THIS?? WHAT KIND OF WORLD ARE IN YOU LIVING IN WITH THAT THROW BACK DOCUMENT OF YOURS WHICH IS A BOOK OF HATE. where ever you look on the earth there’s a bomb going off or a car going up in flames and its the Muslims screaming for the blood of the Christians or Jews or anyone they hate. They say its a religion of peace, but why don’t they proove its a religion of peace. Put down that book of hate for a minute and tell us why it says on Qur’an: 8.39 “So fight them until there is nomore Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone) it say if you see a stranger who is not a muslim, either convert him or kill him. Qur’an: 9:5 “fight and kill the disbelievers where ever you can find them, take them captive, harrass them lie and wait and ambush them” page after page after page its about a religion that teaches you to either convert of kill, a religion that says kill homosexual, kill the Jew, kill the Christian, kill the infidel, oppress women page after page and we are supposed to sit here and listento this rubbish about the so called “Peaceful religion”.

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          Its a bit late to be reading this I suppose, but I would love to see one piece of evidence for any of the accusations in this post. This is a hate speech with no basis.

          I cant believe that people will not seize to be that ignorant in this secular science driven world.

          Peace.

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      Izeth Hussain

      RE: Clarification On Stoning To Death

      What is there to Clarify? Saudi Arabia Wahhabi Follow Iblis, Satan.

      Les’s see.

      Saudi Arabia Holds All Male Women’s Rights Conference?

      http://www.konbini.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/4/files/2015/02/ob_8757bf_o-saudi-arabia-womens-conference-570-810×420.jpg

      May be they wanted to figure out the best way to stone women.

      audi Arabia’s laughably prestigious University of Qassim played host to one of the biggest women’s rights conferences in the Arab world in 2012. Ironically, the institution managed to hold the event without the advice or attendance of a single woman.

      Themed around the topic of “Women in Society” the conference, originally intended to be held annually at the University, is supposed to set a benchmark for tolerance and progress in the region. Delegates and speakers from more than fifteen countries showed up.

      As is to be expected from Saudi Arabia, a country with a twisted interpretation of Sharia Law, zero women attended the event. At least not in the same building as the men. Perhaps more hypocritically a woman is yet to lecture to men at a University of Qassim summit.

      The picture below was published by an Arab newspaper, Okaz, last year and surfaced again in the French-speaking press earlier today. Only two women were cited in attendance.

      Saudi Arabia is still ranked 127th out of 136 countries for gender parity.

      Read more

      http://www.konbini.com/en/lifestyle/saudi-arabia-irony/#.Vl_9Zkvimd8.facebook

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    sariya law is made and adopted by barbarians. this [Edited out] is again trying to justify the barbaric law

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      Shariah law has no place in Islam. There were supposed “islamic laws” during the Ottoman Empire but some of them conflicted with each other so they rewrote it and made the Shariah law as we know now…and like fools, we follow those man made rules as if it came down from god.

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        How come those dopes in the Maldives adopted this medieval Sharia as their laws in a great big hurry. Or is it because they wanted to be the first in the line of Islamic fanatic countries to do this. Now this Islamic Republic is in tatters. They have been so busy fighting each other for power they forgot they have no water to drink. Hindu India had to come to their rescue.

        Rumad

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    koran is full of rubbish teachings….it’s time that Donald Trump becomes the prsedient of america to crush muslim terrorism

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      The person who gets most of his/her comments edited out, pretends he is an Islamic scholar.

      How amusing.

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    islam is the only religion that promotes terrorism and barbarism…

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    rubbish writer is back…..are you done with HLD?

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    Adultery is a matter of personal choice. What right the state has got to interfere with someone personal choices. Sad that the learned writers instead of condemning any form of punishment is trying to justify it. What Muslims should do is to do away with inhuman punishments in the name of God. Because there is nothing more sacred and divine than humanity.

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      dear sir,

      what about the moral values decaying in our society day by day ? just ask a decent woman or man about their partner having an illicit relationship especially evn after marriage.
      aren’t you concerned about broken family structure very common in sri lanka due to illicit relationship, alchoholism ?
      sir islam gives the solution to safeguard the moral values of society .

      but unfortunately anti muslim elements in sri lanka are more concerned on muslims eating meat than illicit relationships , ARAKKU, KASIPPU, GANJA, ABIN, HEROIN, SMOKING which has destroyed the family base of the majotiy of the majority singhala community.

      my dear brother please come and join hands in eradicating these menance from society . are you ready to join us in this noble mission.
      if so you must be ready to sacrifice your desire for ARAKKAU ETC. first . are your ready sincerely .

      also find a solution for the increasing number of stray cattle on the roads day by day as you aren’t letting us to slaighter them but you allow the tourist hotels to serve it in many forms to the visitors. if their is a law it must be applied to the entire nation but not just for the muslims only …

      if sri lanka is true buddist the airport must display the information to the tourists that we are a vegetarian country as per the buddist principles so we do not serve flesh in any forms beef, meat, chicken, fish, pork etc….

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      You will find much joy when you find that your young daughter has been raped and sodomized.

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    ISLAM is a threat to all peace loving countries in the world. It is so for Sri Lanka also. In early 2011 both France and Germany considered that Islam is a threat to their national identities. Sarkozy even banned Islamic veils in France. But the present government of France did away with their hard line attitude and all know what happened to France recently. Izeth Hussain is a established racists and should not be tolerated by CT.

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    Izeth Hussain, if you’re reading this, it’s not just Wahabis, it’s almost 99% of the muslims that follow the hadith as is if it was the word of Allah. As a practicing muslim, I feel that the hadith is doing to Islam what the Nicean Creed did to Christianity.

    And how can anyone claim that Omar (RA) started the practice because the hadith enjoined it? The hadith wasn’t written down until 200+ years after the Prophet died. Before that, it was only verbally transmitted and only Allah knows what was verbally transmitted.

    The Quran says to kill one human is to kill all of humanity (of course there are verses where it allows us to defend ourselves in specific situations in history when muslims were attacked and people take that out of context) so why does the hadith tell us it’s ok to stone a person to death? The soul is Allahs property. Those who rob a person of that soul are committing treason against Allah.

    Really sad that people follow the hadith over the Quran. It will be the downfall of us muslims.

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      Mrhy

      “so why does the hadith tell us it’s ok to stone a person to death? The soul is Allahs property. Those who rob a person of that soul are committing treason against Allah. Really sad that people follow the hadith over the Quran. It will be the downfall of us muslims.”

      Reason Vs. Revelation Vs, Hadith hearsay.

      So, Somebody Must Write, Hadith, an Insult to the Quran, Islam and Prophet Mohamed.

      Did the Hadith make the Muslims, Modayas, Fools,
      Modayas and Mootals? Hadith came 200 years after Islam,, and 300 years later Islam started to decline

      The vast majority of Muslims are like sheep, who follower what the Shepard and the Sheep dogs say and force them to do.

      They do not think. The Shepherds are the the so-called scholars and the Ulema, Mullahs,, Imams and others. Now and then you will fins a rare Shepard who will question things and he will be hunted down and killed by the dogs.

      The issue of reason Vs, Revelation was discussed and argued for the first 500 years of Islam. During that period, Islamic science and philosophy flourished.
      Then the Religious hegemony took over.

      The Hadith has picked up hearsay from the Bible and Bible stories. That is why there is No stoning in the Quran, and stoning in the Hadith. There are many
      such examples.

      So, Somebody Must Write, Hadith, an Insult to the Quran, Islam and Prophet Mohamed.

      In Sinhala Buddhism, there is the Theraveda Tripataka and the Mahawansa. Just like the Muslims Quran and Hadith, the Sinhala Buddhists believe BOTH the Tripitaka and Mahawansa as Buddhism, including Vijaya’s grandfather was a Lion.

      Mahavamsa- An Insult To The Buddha!

      https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/mahavamsa-an-insult-to-the-buddha/

      By Sharmini Serasinghe –

      Caution- The following is more suitable for the broad-minded and the wise. Others are kindly advised to pass!

      Wonder if ours might have been a wiser, and a more ‘humane’ society, had our ‘ancient’ history, been based on Aesop’s Fables, instead of the Mahavamsa. For if not for the Mahavamsa, the Sinhalese may not have been endowed, with the reputation, of “Sinhalaya Modaya (The Sinhalese are Fools)”!

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        The interesting thing is that, like any book, there’s a target audience. The Qurans target audience is everybody. No verse in the Quran says that it is a message for the learned or the scholars. It says it’s a message to all of creation and some messages are for believers only. In many verses it says that those who believe can see the signs (by the way, the word “believe” doesn’t categorically refer to muslims only though everybody claim it does – it refers to anyone who believes in one God, gives charity and believes in the day of judgement). So why do we need to get the “fatwas” of people who have studied Islam in a university? The Quran doesn’t make that a requirements to understand its teachings. These so called scholars over complicate things and interpret things with complex theories that are not necessary. Therein lies the unintended corruption.

        Going to a university does not make a person a believer. You either believe or you don’t. We don’t need a fellow flawed human being to interpret the personal message that the Quran is trying to make our hearts understand.

        Read and learn with earnest effort and you will understand what you are meant to understand.

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    Izeth Hussain. In exactly the same way you find reasons to explain barbarism, an equal number is finding excuses to justify it. You are both quoting verses from the Koran. In reality the entire Koran is a list of conjectures authored by scholars of the time, to suit whatever sect they belonged to. Hence the discrepancies between sects and the morbid injustices. What exacerbates the list further is that they were handed down from generation to generation by word of mouth as there were no print or books, and we all know how reliable word of mouth is.

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      The discrepencies between sects has nothing to do with the Quran. There’s some history behind this. You should Google this. It’s all a result of mans greed for power and contention.

      And the Quran was actually written during the time of the prophet on dried tree barks and the hide of animals. Within a few years of his death, it was all compiled into a single book.

      These are the facts.
      The rest is your opinion and you are welcome to that :)

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        Mrhy

        I could understand why you cannot question what is written in the Quran as that is blasphemy, but accepting it as fact is stretching it beyond reason. You want the non-Muslims (7.3 Billion) to accept as fact that somebody was writing down the tenets from Allah as they were being related by Prophet Mohammad or Gabriel, probably in shorthand, on dried tree barks and animal hides and several copies made for distribution. Can you see how ridiculous that sounds. Also printing was not invented for another 800 years and I presume those tree barks and animal hides survived that long. The difference between my so-called opinions and your supposed facts is that I don’t claim my disbeliefs as facts but you claim your imaginery myths as all facts.

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      Sylvia Haik and Izeth Hussein

      ” Izeth Hussain. In exactly the same way you find reasons to explain barbarism, an equal number is finding excuses to justify it. You are both quoting verses from the Koran. In reality the entire Koran is a list of conjectures authored by scholars of the time, to suit whatever sect they belonged to.”

      There is a lot of Truth in the above statement.

      1. The Quran Part 1 is the Mecca Period. Very peaceful,asking people to join Islam and one God. Jews were not maligned, and was very favorable to Jews. At the end of 13 years only 150 people converted.

      2. The Quran Part 2 is the Medina Period. Violent, and the Muslims were trying to defend themselves from being Killed, and the Muslims were asked to defend and attack their enemies, because they are trying to do the same to them.

      So, the Muslims had to become Jihadists and become politicians to given a community.

      All the barbarism, wars etc. happened during the Medina Period. It is a defense fight for survival. Later for expansion.

      3. To understand Islam, need to understand Prophet Mohamed, and the Hadith.

      It is between opinion, revelation based reasoning Vs. facts based reasoning, fear and cohesion.

      Bill Warner – A Taste of Islam Which Experts? True objective View.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjBDDC4wVxk

      Every Muslim accepts that There is No God, but God and Mohamed is his messenger.

      How to learn? From the Quran. Two Qurans.

      Early Meccans Quran 64% 109:1, No Compulsion in Religion

      Later Medina Quran is 36% 8:12 Terror

      Sira

      Hadith

      What is the real Islam and Quran.

      Abrogation. Later verse is stronger than the earlier verse.

      Contradict but still true.

      How to do 5 Pillars? Live like Prophet Mohamed? How? Sira, 800 pages and Hadith.

      Quran 14%
      Sira/Biography/Sunna 26%
      Hadith /Traditions/Sunnah 60%

      So, Islam is 14% Allah and 86% Prophet Mohamed.

      Q1. Is Islam the political and Religious Doctrine found in the Quran, Sira and Hadith?

      Islam= Allah +Sunna
      Islam = Allah + Mohamed
      Islam = Koran +Sira + Hadith

      Q2. Is Sinhala Buddhism the political and Religious Doctrine found in the Tripitaka, Deepawansa and Mahawansa?

      Sinhala Buddhism= Tripitaka + Dipawansa
      Sinhala Buddhism= Tipitaka+ Mahawansa
      Sinhala Buddhism = Tripitaka + Mahawansa + Sinhala Buddhist Politics

      See any parallels?

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    @Izeth Hussein;

    All religions are wrong in the same way in that they privilege faith over reason, but they are not all equally bad in the same way at the same time. For example, the RC church’s open alliance with fascism in the 1930s has led to issues the world has never recovered from and never will. But in today’s world it is very clear that the most toxic form that religion takes is the Islamic form; the horrible idea of wanting to end up with Sharia (governed by a state of religious law) and that the best means of getting there is holy war/Jihad and that Muslims have a special right to feel aggrieved until they get there. Therefore, this religion is nonsense – god speaks to some illiterate merchant warlord in Arabia and he is able to write this all down perfectly, and the archangel gabriel speaks only Arabic it seems?

    What a load of crap. NO amount of window dressing by Hussein or his ilk will hide the fact that Islam (over all religions) says “ours is the last and final word – there can be no other.” The world is in a serious struggle with a very depraved religion.

    Enough said.

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    In a perverse way it is good that this barbaric verdict will damage the wahabist Islamic sect in a significant way, if what Mr Izzeth Hussein says is true.

    However, I still believe islam is a barbaric religion that condones suicide bombings and killings of non combatant non-Muslims and even fey
    For Muslims their allegiance is to their religion and not to the country where they live.

    Is it any surprise that Donald Trump does not want any more Muslims to come to his country!

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      @Piranha

      “I still believe islam is a barbaric religion that condones suicide bombings and killings of non combatant non-Muslims”

      Do we then classify Christianity and Hinduism also as barbaric religions based on the fact the LTTE also did exactly the same stuff ? I think your answe will be a resounding “No”

      Like you, I understand Trump’s knee-jerk reaction which is calculated to appeal to the basest emotions of US society, racism, xenophobia etc but it is quite simply unworkable, impractical and well, downright stupid.

      But I suspect that he WILL be the next US President

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    Why don’t you Muslim people instead of following Islam blindly, try a religion or a philosophy where you can verify it. I would say Buddhism … not the Buddhism in temples … But the Actual teachings of Buddha, based on Anicha, Dukka, Anatha.

    Practice and see the results rather than this ‘GOD’s’ word in Holy Koran. You have a brain and you will be able to verify it … why don’t you try it out and if it works for you accept it.

    When you know it works and when you realise that its the Universal truth accept it for so called ‘GOD’s sake and all our sake as well and for that matter the whole world’s sake. Then all of us can live in Peace!

    Good Luck brothers nothing is going to hurt you guys for trying it out.

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      Lam

      “Why don’t you Muslim people instead of following Islam blindly, try a religion or a philosophy where you can verify it. “

      That is the difference between reason, observation and revelation.

      Religion is not rational. It is based on belief. Belief is the supporting data. That is sufficient for the believer.

      On the other hand, in the scientific method, mote support and data is needed for accepting a participle, hypothesis or Theory.

      Scientific method

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method

      The scientific method is a body of techniques for investigating phenomena, acquiring new knowledge, or correcting and integrating previous knowledge.[2] To be termed scientific, a method of inquiry is commonly based on empirical or measurable evidence subject to specific principles of reasoning.[3] The Oxford English Dictionary defines the scientific method as “a method or procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.”[4]

      The scientific method is an ongoing process, which usually begins with observations about the natural world. Human beings are naturally inquisitive, so they often come up with questions about things they see or hear and often develop ideas (hypotheses) about why things are the way they are. The best hypotheses lead to predictions that can be tested in various ways, including making further observations about nature. In general, the strongest tests of hypotheses come from carefully controlled and replicated experiments that gather empirical data. Depending on how well the tests match the predictions, the original hypothesis may require refinement, alteration, expansion or even rejection. If a particular hypothesis becomes very well supported a general theory may be developed.[1]

      Although procedures vary from one field of inquiry to another, identifiable features are frequently shared in common between them. The overall process of the scientific method involves making conjectures (hypotheses), deriving predictions from them as logical consequences, and then carrying out experiments based on those predictions.[5][6] A hypothesis is a conjecture, based on knowledge obtained while formulating the question. The hypothesis might be very specific or it might be broad. Scientists then test hypotheses by conducting experiments. Under modern interpretations, a scientific hypothesis must be falsifiable, implying that it is possible to identify a possible outcome of an experiment that conflicts with predictions deduced from the hypothesis; otherwise, the hypothesis cannot be meaningfully tested.[7]

      The purpose of an experiment is to determine whether observations agree with or conflict with the predictions derived from a hypothesis.[8] Experiments can take place in a college lab, on a kitchen table, at CERN’s Large Hadron Collider, at the bottom of an ocean, on Mars, and so on. There are difficulties in a formulaic statement of method, however. Though the scientific method is often presented as a fixed sequence of steps, it represents rather a set of general principles.[9] Not all steps take place in every scientific inquiry (or to the same degree), and are not always in the same order.[10]

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    Today all.self claimed preachers are talking about capital punishment..
    Let this writer read Sunnah as as well deeply to know it ..
    Wahabism is wrong but not this punishment.

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      Dr Nass

      “Wahabism is wrong but not this punishment.”

      Please give up Wahhabism. Otherwise you will end up in Hellfire with Iblis, Satan, Devil, Shaitan, Licifer. as per Quran. Saudi Wahhabi and Gulf Wahhabi petrodollars will not save you.

      Why is Wahhabism- Iblisisn- Following the Devil, Satan.

      1. Quran did NOT prescribe stoning. Only the Satan wanted it. Why? Because Satan wanted people to be angry with God. This was another deception the Wahhanis Fell into..

      2.Satan, and the Satan followers Wahhabis and their clones, ISIS, ISIL, Salafis, Towheed, Najadis, Taiban, Deobandi want people to be misled, so that on jidgement day, they will be put to hell along with Satan, wants company.

      So, if anybody is a Wahhabi o or a Clone, on judgement day they will be put to hell fire along with Satan, Iblis, Shaitan.

      The Quran provides a supplication for mankind which is effective in repelling the evil of Satan and his minions:

      Reference The Quran
      Devil (Islam)

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil_(Islam)

      According to The Oxford Dictionary of Islam, shaytan is used in the Quran in the singular, and the plural shayatin often interchangeably with Iblis, who is “considered to be a particular shaytan.”[9]

      According to basic Islamic teachings, God revealed the creation of three intelligent species: angels (malāʾikah), demons (jinn), and humans (basher), of which the latter two have been granted free will to choose between good and evil,[10][11] and the Quran states that there is other creation beyond human knowledge “and He has created (other) things of which we have no knowledge.”[12]

      The angels, being creatures of pure reason without lower animal desires, do not sin. When God created Adam, he commanded all the angels and Iblis (whose high rank allowed him to worship Allah with the angels) to prostrate to Adam.[1] All the angels did so, but Iblis refused, and was deprived of Allah’s Mercy because of his arrogant disobedience.[13] For this God cast him out of Jannah (paradise), and intended to punish him. Iblis begged God to delay the punishment until Yawm al-Qiyāmah (Last Judgment), and his request was granted.[14]

      It is We Who created you and gave you shape; then We bade the angels prostrate to Adam, and they prostrate; not so Iblis; He refused to be of those who prostrate.
      (Allah) said: “What prevented thee from prostrating when I commanded thee?” He said: “I am better than he: Thou didst create me from fire, and him from clay.”

      — Quran, sura 7 (Al-A’raf) ayat 11-12[15]
      Iblis was proud and considered himself superior to Adam, since Adam was made from clay and Iblis from smokeless fire.[1] For this act of disobedience, God cursed him to Jahannam (Hell/Purgatory) for eternity, but gave him respite until the Day of Judgment, after Iblis requested it.[16] Iblis obtained permission from God and vowed that he would use this time to lead all men and women astray to Hell. In this way, he would prove humanity’s inferiority, and justify his act of defiance.[citation needed] For refusing to abide by the will of God, Iblis was cast out of Heaven, and thereafter he was called “Shaytan” (Satan).

      He said: “Give me respite till the day they are raised up.”
      (Allah) said: “Be thou among those who have respite.”
      He said: “Because thou hast thrown me out of the way, lo! I will lie in wait for them on thy straight way:
      “Then will I assault them from before them and behind them, from their right and their left: Nor wilt thou find, in most of them, gratitude (for thy mercies).”
      (Allah) said: “Get out from this, disgraced and expelled. If any of them follow thee,- Hell will I fill with you all.

      — Quran sura 7 (Al-Aʻraf), ayah 14-18[17]
      Although God grants the request, he also warns Satan that he would have no authority over his sincere ‘ubūd or ‘servants’.[13]

      “As for My servants, no authority shalt thou have over them:” Enough is thy Lord for a Disposer of affairs.

      — Quran, sura 17 (Al-Isra), ayah 65[18]

      Such individuals had previously been mentioned in the Torah and the Gospel as the Elect.

      Shaytan as a “whisperer”- Their agents Wahhabis and their clones

      In Islamic theology, Shaytan and his minions are “whisperers”, who whisper into the hearts of humans and jinn, urging them to sin.

      The Quran provides a supplication for mankind which is effective in repelling the evil of Satan and his minions:

      Say: I seek refuge with the Lord and Cherisher of Mankind,
      The King (or Ruler) of Mankind,
      The God (or judge) of Mankind,-
      From the mischief of the Whisperer (of Evil), who withdraws (after his whisper),-
      (The same) who whispers into the hearts of Mankind,-
      Among Jinn and among men.

      — Quran, sura 114 (Al-Nas), ayat 1–6[19]

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    Muslims don’t want to accept that Barbarism is wrong in the name of a Cult religion.

    Always justifiy.

    Even Mohomad could marry children. Mohommad was incestous.

    This woman had extra man, How many muslim men have so many women openly ?

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      Jim softy, read up on history. Until quite recently, it was legal to marry children.

      Even in Sri Lanka, it was the norm for a 16 year old to marry, in the 60’s.

      Even in the 1600s, child brides were normal in most parts of the world.

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    Izzat you don’t know proper Islamic law what is quran and what is authentic hadeed always jurisprudence given or taken according to quran n hadeed prophet word from his mouth also kind of revelation you see your picture you don’t have even beard good practice of prophet sunnah don’t try to fish trouble water also without deep knowledge don’t write this type of cheap article

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      Niyaz

      “Izzat you don’t know proper Islamic law what is quran and what is authentic hadeed always jurisprudence given or taken according to quran n hadeed prophet word from his mouth also kind of revelation ….”

      Do you know or for that matter any of the Ulema, Alims, Mullah’s and Immam’s know it?

      Do you think 12th Century Ibn Taymiajh knew it? Ghazali Knew it? Others knew it? 18th Century Abdul Wahab, Father of Wahhabism, Salafism, Iblism, Najadism, ISIS. ISIL. Talibanisn. Deobandism, Boko Haramism and of course, the grandfather Wahhabism. They all follow Iblis, Devil, Satan, until the Last day Judgment as per Islamic Theology.

      Does the Sun go around the Earth as Joshua Says?

      Is Adam made out of Clay and Dirt and Jinn , Iblis made out of Fire?

      What is Fire?

      Is Eve made out of Adam’s ribs?

      How Many chromosomes did Adam have? How maby do current humans have? The Great apes?

      Why is that Eve is missing the Y Chromosome.

      “Izzat you don’t know proper Islamic law what is quran and what is authentic”

      Who knows? Do you know of anybody who knows?

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    I am glad that IH has finally spoken to this issue. Now whether his justification resonates with muslims in Sri Lanka or not, I do not know. But I do hope that muslims in Sri Lanka do not condone this barbaric form of punishment.

    On a related note, a commentator mentioned the fact that the Hadiths, and even the Qur’an it self were written by humans during various time points, and thus can be manipulated to justify one side of an argument or the other.

    There have been various commentator on CT, that have the same accusation against the Mahawansa. How it does not provide an accurate history of our island, but a rather jaundiced and racist view privileging theravada buddhism and the Sinhala race. I wonder if IZ also condemns the Mahawansa for these reasons.

    Hypocrisy is rampant on CT. If Mahawansa is a figment of a racist’s imaginations, who is to say that the Hadiths, Bible or even the Qur’an are not?

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      “Hypocrisy is rampant on CT. If Mahawansa is a figment of a racist’s imaginations, who is to say that the Hadiths, Bible or even the Qur’an are not?”

      This is why it is pivotal that religious, any form of Sharia laws, any form canonical laws must not form the basis for a state’s administration. A state must be free of religious interferences.

      The people who commit adultery, those women who have given birth to children out of wedlock, homosexuality, transsexuals, Ladyboys and not restricted to; all need to be protected from these prehistoric nonsense.

      I do not give a toss about what the Quran says. Mr Hussein went at length to clarify in terms of what is written in Quran as a punishment to those who commit adultery that is 100 lashes for both parties! He has not condemned it but implicitly justifies it! These educated Muslims are the worst ones! He has been advising the Tamils as to how they should settle their problems with the Sinhala. He occupied a moral high ground and has been looking down on the Tamils but all along his prehistoric sharia principles are well and truly intact in his head. He needs to know that we are living in the year 2015 and you will not drag us back to the prehistoric period.

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        Accepting homosexuality as normal is the first shot at humanity and there are more unnatural nonsense to follow. The religion(or any widely accepted set of well organized believes) should be the foundation of any government.

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          Clinton,

          I am very sorry to say that people like you are very dangerous in the context of modern societies! What is normal in terms of one’s sexuality? Who has given you the right to decide that?

          I am a heterosexual and this is my sexuality; I have no right to decide as to what is the sexuality of the other. This is exactly why the morality of a nation should not be purely based on theological context. Every religion possess moral codes but some of them are totally outdated and incompatible with advancing humanity. The Western nations based their moral codes on Christianity but advanced with passage of time thus detachment from the religious confinement. All people both strong and vulnerable need to protected and no religion is designed to do that!

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        Where does the Quran recommend punishment for homosexuality?
        It does speak against sodomy but there’s no punishment for it.

        Even on this speak against sodomy, it is unclear if it’s speaking against the act of sodomy or if it’s against the sodomy of the people of Sodom who allegedly practiced sodomy, not because that was their natural inclination, but because they were a society who simply engaged in all kinds of sexual games just because they could.

        Makes sense don’t you think? Why wouldn’t the Quran prescribe punishment otherwise? All these funny rules only appear in the hadith.

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        Burning Issue

        “This is why it is pivotal that religious, any form of Sharia laws, any form canonical laws must not form the basis for a state’s administration. A state must be free of religious interferences. “

        That is why Thomas Jefferson wanted the Church and state separate for America.

        The God Hypothesis
        “The religion of one age is the literary
        entertainment of the next.” RALPH WALDO EMERSON

        http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/lehre/pmo/eng/Dawkins-DelusionCh2.pdf

        It is unfair to attack such an easy target. The God Hypothesis
        should not stand or fall with its most unlovely instantiation,
        Yahweh, nor his insipidly opposite Christian face, ‘Gentle Jesus
        meek and mild’. (To be fair, this milksop persona owes more to his
        Victorian followers than to Jesus himself. Could anything be more
        mawkishly nauseating than Mrs C. F. Alexander’s ‘Christian
        children all must be / Mild, obedient, good as he’?) I am not attacking
        the particular qualities of Yahweh, or Jesus, or Allah, or any
        other specific god such as Baal, Zeus or Wotan. Instead I shall
        define the God Hypothesis more defensibly: there exists a superhuman,
        supernatural intelligence who deliberately designed and
        created the universe and everything in it, including us. This book
        will advocate an alternative view: any creative intelligence, of
        sufficient complexity to design anything, comes into existence only
        as the end product of an extended process of gradual evolution.
        Creative intelligences, being evolved, necessarily arrive late in the
        universe, and therefore cannot be responsible for designing it. God,
        in the sense defined, is a delusion; and, as later chapters will show,
        a pernicious delusion.

        Not surprisingly, since it is founded on local traditions of private
        revelation rather than evidence, the God Hypothesis comes in many
        versions. Historians of religion recognize a progression from
        primitive tribal animisms, through polytheisms such as those of the
        Greeks, Romans and Norsemen, to monotheisms such as Judaism
        and its derivatives, Christianity and Islam.

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      Quran was compiled in the present form 10 years after the death of the prophet. Prior to that, it was written in pieces and people close to Prophet(sal) were aware of the verses.

      Hadiths are what Prophet( Sal) spoken words or behavioural patterns.

      1. Hadiths was compiled after 200 years of the prophet and some verses are contrary or in addition to the Quran. Some Hadiths has sprung up to suit occasions. As a Muslim, I would not rely on the Hadiths but on the Quran.

      2. Hadiths are contextual. They were mainly in response to a particular situation. Hadiths is embedded in the culture of that era and stoning was the punishment even in Christianity and the Jewish religion.

      Hadiths therefore is not reliable and we need to go by the Quran. I tend to agree with Izzeth Hussein that the punishment meted out to this maid is not according to Islam and it is barbaric and horrendous.

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    He He He Nana is trying to coverup ….

    Wahabism bann smoking..flowers..drinking…decoration ,,,jewelry …makeup .alas but in Saudia Arabia these are rampant ……

    Fanatics lived worse than savages before oil boom ….

    When fanatic Ikwan challenged British forces during 30s…british plane boomed these dirts and after weeks their bodies were like dry fish scattered in the Saudi desert ,…Allah couldn’t save them

    Today after came to the influence of Saudes Maldives Island people both men and women are maximum enjoying alcohol and drugs and even female circumcision never heard before back in this Islands……

    One Maldivien 15 years girl was sentenced to death by stoning by court simply her child was fathered by her step father …what a wonderful law…of this fanatic faith?

    West must send these Arabs back to 4th century ..no other way……

    Cheers

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    In fanatic Saudi Arabia if wife filmed when her husband having sex with housemaid …according to Islamic law wife will get 13 years prison sentence for exposing the private life of her husband….

    How is this law ?

    cheers

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      cholan

      If she is not charged for voyeurism the punishment for which probably is death. And, don’t forget, the maid could be stoned to death for having sex with a man not her husband. Islam is indeed a religion of peace?

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    I agree that religion should not be a basis for administration of a state. Separation of temple/church/mosque and the state is the best alternative to governing a multi-religious society.

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    Izzath

    You being a rational thinker will agree that all the religions came into the world to reform the mankind from barbarism and Ialam is not an exception. Most major religions found that faith in religious Teachings destroys our rational reasoning and using their intellect those religions amended or changed their doctrines tosh it the civilised world. However, in Islam there is not a letter has changed and that is why these barbaric punishments continue to exist.

    As an intellectually enlightened Muslim can you influence and convince like Christianity which was also barbaric at the outset has changed to its barbarism to suit the changing world to make changes in Islam and in Sharia law to suit the modern world.

    Please do not say the teachings in Koran, Hadith or sharia law are for ever.

    I invite you for a response, izzath

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    Is it four MALE witnesses? A female is equal to half a male? Am I right?

    OK Quran is gods word? Why not Muslims dump Hadees, lock, stock and barrel.

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    Unlike christianity, The Koran cannot be reformed, But the religion can be reformed, it should come from the leadrers of that religion, any comments???

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      I believe the religion was already reformed during the Ottoman Empire. That reform really warped a lot of the original teachings. It took the word of the Quran and interpreted it via the hadith which is where these crazy rules like stoning a person to death, capital punishment and other crazy things exist.

      If not for that reform, Islam would be a religion acceptable by all.

      Muslims all over the world are very proud that Islam hasn’t changed. Oh, but it has. We just don’t realize it yet.

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    So why doesnt theleaders of these various sects get together and have a reformation, according to their own rules and rgeulations, but keep it civilised please.

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    Sharia is the basic Islamic legal system based on the Quran and Hadith. Most of the laws were extracted directly from these two sources and the rest were derived from the same sources by Mujtahids using the methods of Ijma (Consensus), Qiyas (Analogical Deduction) and Ijtihad (Independent Reasoning). By the 10th or 11th Century, the Ulemas of that time decided that there is no need for further Ijtihad-based ‘derivations’, thereby effectively closing the door on the process of Independent Reasoning and insisted that the process of Taqlid (Blind Obedience) be adopted for all future situations that necessitated the implementations of Islamic Law.

    The Mujtahids were the only Muslims who were permitted to use Independent Reasoning for the derivation of Islamic Laws because they had acquired the required Islamic qualifications.

    There are no Sri Lankan Mujtahids. There never were any at any time in the past either.

    The articles written in the recent past by various professionals, however impressive be their academic achievements and however extensive be their fields of expertise, are merely statements of opinion – normative statements that resonate with the thinking and expectations of like-minded persons. Hence their cheering squads. A careful examination of the conclusions drawn in the case of each article shows clearly that what is being expressed is not a valid, sound conclusion but a wishy-washy statement of what should be the case with regard to the death penalty in Islam.

    None of the Muslim Commentators who have voiced their opinions so far are qualified to interpret the Sharia Laws. By continuing to do so, they are only providing more grist to the mill of the critiques of Islam.

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    Ekelbroom

    Thank you for the clarification. Are there any Ijtahids in contemporary Islamic society? Or are all muslims only blindly obedient, according to Taqlid?

    What do you think about it? Should people today blindly follow ideas that were decided a 1000 years ago, without any examination as to their appropriateness in today’s world?

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      @sinhalese buddhist

      I think what you meant to ask was whether there are any Mujtahids (not Ijtihads) in contemporary Islamic society.

      The role of Mujtahids in the Sunni Community was effectively reduced to almost zero since the ‘closing of the doors of Ijtihad’. However, Mujtahids continue to play major roles in the Shi’ite Community to this day. Taqlid means following the Sharia Laws derived by Mujtahids without question. Sunni Muslims have no option but to do so. It should however be borne in mind that when they derived laws from the Quran and Hadith, the Mujtahids of that time would have based their interpretations on the body of knowledge that existed then. The guardians of Islam do not offer an opportunity for such laws to be re-visited and re-interpreted in the light of new knowledge. This is why at times the Muslim Community is perceived as being ‘stuck in a time-warp’ with regard to certain social issues.

      Muslims who are bold enough to offer ‘new’ interpretations in the light of modern knowledge run the risk of being vilified, criticized and even threatened with bodily harm for causing Fitna (unrest or rebellion) among the Ummah.

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        ekelbroom – I think you have forgotten the reform movement started by Jamaldin el-Afghani in the late nineteenth century. It advocated ijtihad, practiced it,and posed a radical challenge to the orthodox Islam that had been established around 1200 AD. It was in that tradition that in 1990 I presented a paper on ijtihad at a seminar organized by the Muslim Women’s Research and Action Forum.It is also in that tradition that I have argued that a hadith to be acceptable as the basis of Islamic law should be consistent with what the the Koran says and consonant with the spirit of what it says. I have argued that in terms of that criterion stoning to death for adultery should be rejected as unIslamic. – IH

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          Mr Hussain, Sir.

          When we persist in writing public articles calling into question the validity of specific Sharia Laws then we run the risk of Islam itself being perceived by non-Muslims as a religion beset with inaccuracies and flaws, thereby providing more grist to the mill of the critiques of Islam.

          I think you will agree that only Mujtahids were permitted to derive laws using ijtihad, qiyas and ijma. This cannot be done by every Tom, Dick and Harry (or in the present context by every Reeza, Hilmy and Izeth – with all due respect to these persons). This is not the time or place to be expressing one’s own opinion on the legality or appropriateness of specific Sharia Laws. The seminar you have mentioned would definitely have been a suitable forum. Bear in mind that of the 49 Muslim-majority countries in the world, only 6 have included stoning in their statute books. This would mean that an extremely large segment of the 1.6 billion Muslims do not accept this form of punishment for adultery. This is the single most important fact that the Muslim writers should have emphasized in their respective articles to demonstrate that Muslims are not barbaric savages and that what is happening in Saudi Arabia is an exception rather than the rule in Islamic societies.

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            Ekelbroom – I am wholly in agreement with what Brother Ziad writes.It is not sufficient to say merely that stoning to death is practiced in only a few Muslim countries. It is extremely important to show that that practice is utterly unIslamic. Otherwise Islam will be perceived as a savage religion that encourages savagery. – IH

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    ekelbroom: IH, did mention the fact that only 4 Muslim countries have stoning to death in their statutes, out of 57 member countries in the OIC. One basic fact that should be kept in mind is that every Tom, Dick and Harry of a ruler cannot implement Sharia Law, according to his whims and fancies. The very fact that the accursed Saudis are illegitimate and are an aberration, is enough as a reason for a Muslims to distance themselves from the actions of those obscurantist bigots. Instead of trying to white wash the despicable actions of the family of Sauds and their pre-Islamic traits; it would serve Islam better if Muslims take steps to delegitimise the rule of the tribals and cleanse the Holy Lands of Islam from the Saudi filth.

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