19 September, 2020

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Halal Issue Highlighted Importance Of Social Integration

By Jehan Perera

Jehan Perera

The immediate crisis over the issue of Halal certification by the All Ceylon Jamiyyathul Ulama has been defused with the government’s appointment of a high level ministerial committee to make recommendations on how to address it.  The appointment of a parallel committee by the UNP is also noteworthy, not only because it is the main opposition party, but also because of the totally different composition of the two committees.  The ten member government committee includes nationalist Sinhalese politicians, some of whom have expressed strong views against the ethnic minorities.  On the other hand, the six member UNP committee goes to the other extreme and comprises only Muslims.

It will be interesting to see what the two committees come up with as their responses to resolving the Halal issue that has suddenly burst into national prominence and caused intense feelings of insecurity in the Muslim community but also fed into Sinhalese fears of being a beleaguered majority in Sri Lanka.  The government is likely to follow the recommendations of its own committee.  However, the UNP committee’s view would provide a useful indicator regarding the degree of polarization that exists between the two communities, and whether it is more acute at the political level than at the grassroots level. Explaining his party’s position on the matter, UNP Leader Ranil Wickremesinghe said, “All Muslims do not share the same opinion on the matter. As such, the issue should not be held against the entire Muslim community.”

Although the public mobilization of the Muslim and Sinhalese communities for confrontation is not visible there continues to be an undercurrent of communal polarization that is taking place at the grassroots level.   Shoppers at grocery stores are looking to see what commodities have the Halal certification on them.  Some Muslim-owned shops are seeing a decline in their business.   There are messages being circulated on the internet that have a strong anti Muslim sentiment in them.  I received such a message from a person I would normally regard as being a pillar of middle class morality and religiosity.   This demonstrates the constant need for those concerned with social integration in a plural society to be at work.

NEGATIVE ENVIRONMENT

The surfacing of the Halal issue has given the opportunity for public discussion about what it means.  The public discussion has been positive to the extent that it has given Muslim spokespersons an opportunity to refute misconceptions about Halal certification.  They have been able to show that the certification process is a voluntary process taken on by businesses that wish to sell their commodities to Muslims also.  Businesses do not have to get the Halal certificate if they do not wish to sell to the Muslim consumer.  In fact there are many businesses that do not have the Halal certification and are doing very well.  However, businesses that do have the Halal certification contribute to economic integration and a common market for all communities in Sri Lanka.

On the other hand, the surfacing of the Halal issue has also provided an occasion for people in general to discuss about the Muslim community in general in a not-so-positive way.  There is an unfortunate tendency of human beings to speak ill of others if they are given the opportunity.  The targets of such critical commentary can be anyone, ranging from politicians to neighbours and even to less favoured family members.  However, in the case of most people, these critical ideas are not voiced in public but are thought about in private.  The problem is that when the opening is given via a problem that involves them, then the critical thoughts are given outward expression.

Unfortunately, the surfacing of the Halal issue has provided an opportunity for people in general to discuss the Muslim community and their practices in a way that generates a negative momentum.  The fact that there are some things we do not talk about in public was brought out in a recent discussion between several professionals who were discussing the Halal issue.  The Muslim amongst them had turned to one of his Sinhalese colleagues and asked him what his caste was.  The discussion immediately froze.  The Muslim person then said that there were some things we do not speak about in public, such as caste, and another is religion.

MAINSTREAMING RECONCILIATION

The problem is that both caste and religion are not only personal matters, but also have wider social and political dimensions to them.  For instance, caste factors are taken into consideration by families in making traditional marriage arrangements.  They are also considered by political parties in selecting candidates who will be appealing to different electorates.  Caste can also be an instrument of social oppression.  Those lower in the caste hierarchy tend to suffer from economic and educational deprivation.  These are matters that need to be discussed so that the problems they cause people can be solved.  They should not be discussed in a manner that will make the problem of social oppression worse.  The same is true of religion.

Despite rapid strides after the end of the war, Sri Lanka continues to be a polarised and fragmented society with cleavages at various levels including the economic, social, religious and political.   This has led to a lack of communication and acute mistrust between parties on different sides of the various divides.  There is a sense of exclusion among communities, who feel they are not being included in national decision making and in enjoying the fruits of development. The government’s creation of a Ministry of National Languages and Social Integration reflects a positive effort towards more conflict sensitive policy that emphasizes the need to bring all social, ethnic and religious groups into the national mainstream.

The Ministry, under the leadership of Minister Vasudeva Nanayakkara, who has been long time campaigner of socially excluded populations, has come up with a social integration policy that it is trying to implement.  A recent cartoon in a newspaper showed him riding on a rocking horse, making efforts to move but staying in the same place.  This represents the reality and the lack of priority that has been given by those more powerful in the government to issues of national reconciliation and social integration after the war.  But now the need of the government to prevent the Halal issue and Sinhalese-Muslim tensions from getting out of control ought to impress upon the government the need to give more attention and resources to issues of national reconciliation and social integration.

GOVERNMENT’S ROLE

Over the past several years, the government used the war against the LTTE as its primary mode of unifying this Sinhalese majority behind it and obtained its vote at successive elections.  Now with the fourth year of the end of the war approaching there may be a need for new issues to keep Sinhalese solidarity perceived by sections within the government.   It may not be a coincidence that the government has declared its intention to hold three provincial council elections later this year.  It has also denied that an early presidential election will be held next year.  Those who view the government’s actions as being directed towards its political advantage would notice that the Halal issue can be used to unify the Sinhalese majority in a common cause.  However, keeping religious sentiments on the boil without creating a conflagration is likely to be impossible.

In an election time it will be difficult for political parties, including the ruling party, to be critical of the prejudices of the majority community or be seen to be taking the side of a minority community.  However, civil society organizations that have no such stake in party political outcomes can take on the challenge of correcting misconceptions and creating more empathy between the different communities.  Civil society organizations hope to work with government agencies in building links between the diverse communities that will create better country-wide understanding of the continuing grievances of the different communities.  One important tool for confidence building would be the implementation of the recommendations of the Lessons Learnt and Reconciliation Commission (LLRC) appointed by the government.

The LLRC report calls upon civil society to play an active role in addressing issues of social and national integration.  These include the formation of inter-religious committees at the grassroots level and people-to-people exchanges.  These are areas in which civic groups have expended considerable effort in the post-war period.  Although government leaders have pledged to implement the LLRC recommendations, there is skepticism regarding their seriousness in this regard.  However, civil society organisations have only a limited role to play in the remaking of the polity, and that role is to play a complementary, supplementary and catalytic role.  The government must provide an enabling environment by improving its relations with civic groups who campaign for inter-ethnic reconciliation and social integration.

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    JEHAN, I APPRECIATE YOUR VIEWS AND HAVE THE GREATEST RESPECT FOR YOU.
    OH ! WHY CANT WE MUSLIMS BE LEFT ALONE ?
    I SAY THIS TO A.C.J.U. WHICH CREATED THE PROBLEM,AND POLITICIANS FROM
    ALL SIDES WHO ARE TRYING TO GAIN POLITICAL MILEAGE.FAR FROM FINDING
    A SOLUTION, THEY ARE CREATING MORE PROBLEMS.
    WE, MUSLIMS HAVE BEEN LIVING IN THIS LAND PEACEFULLY AND EATING WHAT WE WERE ALLOWED.BY OUR RELIGION. I DO NOT WANT TO USE THE ARABIC TERM FOR PERMITTED SINCE THERE ARE NON-MUSLIMS, WHO JUST GET WOUND UP FOR NOTHING ON HEARING THE WORD.
    WE NEED NO CERTIFICATION,AND WILL NOT ACCEPT THIS FROM ANYONE.
    FOR A TRUE MUSLIM RELIGION COMES FIRST
    ALLAH AND HIS PROPHET S.A.W.S. ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO CAN LEGISLATE AND
    SAY, THAT SOMETHING IS PERMITTED, OR PROHIBITED.
    I HAVE SEEN ON T.V. AND READ WHAT MUSLIM POLITICIANS AND OTHERS CLAIMING TO BE MUSLIMS,SAYING, MAKING FOOLS OF THEMSELVES, BY EXPRESSING OPINIONS WITHOUT ANY PROOF FROM THE QURAN OR PROPHETIC SAYINGS.

    HERE IS A RULING FROM A RESPECTED SCHOLAR AND TEACHER AT PROPHET’S
    MOSQUE IN MADINAH.ANSWERING A QUESTION OF ONE IN THE STUDY GROUP,AT WHICH I TOO HAVE BEEN PRESENT WHEN IN MADINAH.

    Shaykh Saalih as-Suhaymee:

    [Why] don’t you allow?! Laa hawla wa laa quwwata illaa bil-Laah! I ask you, O brother, may Allaah give you success: is it permissible for me or other than me to allow or forbid? Is it permissible for us to declare halaal (lawful) or haraam (unlawful) on our own accord?

    {And say not concerning that which your tongues put forth falsely: “This is lawful and this is forbidden,” so as to invent lies against Allaah.} [Sûrah an-Nahl (16): verse 116]

    Did you pay attention? If we allow on our own accord, then we are liars and forgers. And if we declare lawful on our own accord, then we are liars and forgers. And [likewise] if we declare unlawful, declare lawful, make obligatory or legislate. For the one who makes obligatory or legislates on his own accord, then he is a Taaghoot [1] from the Tawaagheet [2], even if he testifies that nothing has the right to be worshipped except Allaah and that Muhammed is the Messenger of Allaah. Do you understand, O servant of Allaah? So do not blame us and say, “Why don’t you allow us to do this and why do you forbid us from that?” Because if we allow things on our own accord, then we are Tawaagheet! Na’am! The one who declares lawful and unlawful is Allaah! We are not from those whom Allaah said about,

    {They (Jews and Christians) took their rabbis and their monks to be their lords besides Allaah (by obeying them in things which they made lawful or unlawful according to their own desires without being ordered by Allaah), and (they also took as their Lord) Messiah, son of Maryam (Mary)…} [Sûrah at-Tawbah (9): verse 31]

    So declaring lawful and declaring unlawful is in the Hands of Allaah, in the Book of Allaah – jalla wa ‘alaa -. So the lawful is that which Allaah and His Messenger declared lawful, and the unlawful is that which Allaah and His Messenger declared unlawful.

    “Verily, that which is lawful is clear and that which is unlawful is clear. And between the two of them are doubtful matters about which many people do not know. Thus he who avoids doubtful matters clears himself in regard to his religion and his honour. But he who falls into doubtful matters [eventually] falls into that which is unlawful, like the shepard who shepards [his flock] around a sanctuary, he is certain to pasture [his flock] in it. And verily, every king has a sanctuary, and verily, Allaah’s sanctuary is His prohibitions. And verily, in the body there is a lump of flesh, which, if it is sound, the whole body is sound, and which, if it is corrupt, the whole body is corrupt. Truly, it is the heart.”

    So the unrestricted legislation belongs to Allaah and His Messenger – salla Allaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam -. And it is not permissible for anyone to legislate or prohibit something which Allaah and His Messenger – salla Allaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam – have not legislated or prohibited.

    ABSOLUTELY CLEAR. THE ACJU TOOK UPON THEMSELVES TO DO

    SOMETHING WHICH THEY OR ANY INDIVIDUAL OR ORGANIZATION

    CAN NOT DO ACCORDING TO THE QURAN AND SUNNAH,AND CREATED

    THE FITNAH(TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS) WE ARE IN TODAY.

    WE SEEK PROTECTION IN ALLAH.AND ALLAH WILL SUFFICE.

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      ACJU not declaring anything Halal or Haram apart from Quran and Sunnah.earlier we use to buy everything from local shops and fresh,but nowadays we consume more frozen and packet foods .Example :Do you know that Milk powders are not preparing by cows milk alone?all of those Anchor,nespray,Raththi,Lakspray etc were prepared with lard.recently few suppliers are resort to use Soya instead lard to get halal certificates.”one example enough”
      you are an ignorant fellow,pls study before comment.

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      AA Ayman,

      My Brother, please do not put your comments openly as you wishes to others as if you know everything and for your info ACJU is the main body for our SL Muslims to guide us on the most of the matters that arises time to time according to present situation. They are some prominent figures such mufties and well knowledgeable people and I’m sure they are awae of what they are doing.

      Importance of the certifications plz do a bit of a research beforehand, meant to say before you open your mouth.

      Eg: bottled water purification process where as olden days there were no such thing existed

      Fast food restuarents like Mc’ Dee & Pizza Hut, their secret undisclosed ingredients

      But funny enough everybody just been curious about an org that existed for decades not a Mushroom org like BBS

      Everybody trying to critisise ACJU that charges a nominal fee to the services that provide with documentary evidence that has been audited And openly available from companies house as well as from its clients.

      But not a organisation that came from no where a few months ago that terrorises the communal harmony, with foreign funds and other sources.

      What has the Norway ambassador has to do in the BBS office in thummulla & when the ACJU went there they want them to remove their shoes and come where as Norway ambassador walking out with his shoes at the same time in front of my eyes.

      What has happen to the real Buddhism in the country that Lord Buddah has lived.

      What a shame on these extremists…

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    Several minor incidents have been reported from various parts of the country as well as several inflammotary SMS flying around alleging and imminent attack by extremist etc. Govt needs to take legal action against these evil forces who are bent on disturbing the peace.

    The silence and restraint of the police when it comes to apprehending these criminals with religous affiliations is remarkable. Also the police supporting the unofficial BBS police storm troopers is without any precedent in this country.

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    good article……WE MUSLIMS DO EAT HALAAL FOODS WHTHER THE SEAL IS ON THE PRODUCT OR NOT.. GENERALLY MUSLIMS ASK A PARTICULAR FOOD WHETHER ITS HALAAL AND THEN ONLY ATTEMPT TO BUY…..SO NO NEED HALLAL CERTIFICATE STAMPED.

    SO THESE ULAMA SAPAI , PEOPLE NOW CALLING THESE BOARD AS ULAGA MAADUKAL SAPAI ( means world buffalo board ) TRYING TO EARN MONEY FROM THESE AND CREATE PROBLEMS. WHAT THESE BOADD SHOULD SAY ” OK……WE STOP ISSEUING HALAAL CERTIFICATE TO NON MUSLIMS PRODUCT FROM NOW ON…..” PROBLEMS FINISHED……WHY THESSE JU BOARD CAN NOT DO THIS ? WHY THEY DONT SAY IT ?
    YAA…….THEY ARE DOING BUSINESS WITH THIS HALAAL CERTIFICATE AND EARN MONEY FOR THEM..THEY ISSUED THIS CERTIFICATE TO A PROBIBITED FOOD ITEM IN MACDONALS IN 2010 . SHAME ? NO CERTIFICATE FOR THIS YEAR FOR PIZZA AS THEY NOT PAY MONEY ??
    ….MY REQUEST TO THE AUTHORRIY CHEK ALL THESE BOARD MEMEBRS BANK ACCOUNTS IMMEDIATELY..

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    Haaving Halal certificate on food items hrlps Muslims to instantly recognize and not to question its source of ingredients used in the production process. The ACJU, the Apex body for Muslims in Sri Lanka was doing a sterling job in regulating this process for all Muslims, and also providing advice when necessary to those manufacturing food products so that it conforms to Islajmic halal standards. I don’t see anything wrong with that. If Halal certification is taken off, it will be to the detriment of all Muslims who will be deprived of the knowledge to help them decide if a product is Halal or Haram, and in the process also eat Haram food products inadvertently. It is important to realize that the food market in quite competitive with produce coming in quick and fast from all over the world including our and local manufacturers. All kinds of foods are produced by those who have absolutely no regard nor respect for Islamic values, snd are totally Profit oriented. Halal means nothing to them, and if asked, they will falsely claim it to be Halal. ?it will be back to checking e_code numbers with ingredients used, and not everyone can decipher it easily. We Muslims will really miss this great service done by ACJU..

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    Integration of Muslims in Srilanka with other
    communities is a daily happening and no need of any
    special effort.Muslims are very well integrated with
    other two main communities in every way and as far as
    it can go.Find them at Saivaite eateries,Sinhala Dansals
    Tamil cinemas,Sinhala teledramas,intermarriages,Schools
    neighborhoods,friends,businesses and you name it how else
    this should happen.You don’t have to become somebody else
    for integration.It’s just a minority in the majority that
    should be taught to behave themselves.The entire major
    Sinhala leadership figures could be only a couple of dozens
    and it’s no major issue for them to tell their people in one
    voice, not to harass or humiliate their brotherly neighbors.
    It can be easily achieved thanks to excellent relationship that
    already exists between the communities.IS IT HARD TO CATCH THE
    BLACK SHEEP WITH CLEARLY MARKED COLOR? AND FOR A GOVT THAT
    BROUGHT K P FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY? JEHAN PLEASE TARGET THE CULPRIT
    AND NOT THE VICTIM.

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    First of all we should understand that this is not a conflict between two communities but the traders of both communities who make money even by selling their own community and religions.The second point is that there are politicians ,from both sides to gain politically,using this issue naming it as a conflict between communities.They did this for Tamils as well.The third point is that there are NGO papas who also take this as ethnic polarization and try to create a ground to earn foreign money for their projects for “social integrity”(For their big salaries and survival) People should not get into this trap.There are small groups that are trying to create tension between communities for their financial and political gaining.The Government can take firm action to stop it.But unfortunately the Government is also trying fishing in the mud water. It is important for the ordinary civilians to take precautionary measures to protect themselves from this situation.They should accommodate each other and to respect other values.The religions also have become like political parties that always stand for one side and accuse other believes.So-called religious leaders play a key role in that respect.The ultimate result is the suffering of ordinary civilians of the country.

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    All SriLankans can easily get together and move forward as a single united community.

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      Well said Brotha…,U better get this msg across to BBS EXTREMISTS…!

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    This is not about minority rights or majority rights but just “RIGHTS”

    As usual the Muslims keep whining and complaining about victimization to get their own way at the expense of everyone else because they put religion before everything else.

    GET OVER IT. You guys are NOT SPECIAL or deserving of special treatment because U are a MINORITY. Everyone in Sri lanka has to be given the same weight

    We know how Muslims approach rights when they are in the majority. Muslim majority countries don’t give a damn about others rights in their countries.

    Everyone in the country deserves the same treatment The Sikhs in the west have won the right to wear their turban etc but that is because it does not impose on others space.

    Halal is not such an issue. No one is Sri lanka is saying Halal should be banned. There are 10% Muslims and if need be only 10% of whatever product should be halal. But the question is how can a manufacturer adjust his manufacturing process to produce 10% halal and 90% non halal. If this is possible by some means then no problem.

    I have lived in the west for a long time and never ever seen halal soap, toothpaste etc. The only halal I see in supermarkets here is just meat products and that also in very limited quantities

    It is time Muslims stopped being cry babies and also stop crying wolf about unseen forces waiting to finish them off. Despite some isolated incidents here & there, Nothing of the sort is happening.

    How about Muslims clean their own backyard of Shia vs Sunni etc ( just now I heard a bomb went off in karachi) first before pointing fingers at others

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      american mama
      you are out of the world all these are created by americans like mama u

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        Why? Because I don’t agree with your point of view ??

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      well said, AM

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      Are you kind of an American Soccer Mom living in Sri Lanka? Oh mom.. kids transporting….key-board shielded protesting….Starbucks don’t work in our poor land.

      Go, run to the kitchen and lit the stove like a good SL mom…..

      When you are perfectly an SL Mom, come back and comment..he..he..

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        Call me ‘mama’ as in uncle darling !!

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    1.Bodu Bala Sena storm has hushed the hacking of LLRC website.
    Who would hack that website? People who don’t like to implement LLRC or don’t like to see the implementation of LLRC !

    2. The recommendation that doesn’t need any effort for implementation is singing the national anthem in Tamil. Up to 3yrs ago it was sung in Tamil. It needs only willpower to implement it. If that could not happen at Temple Trees at the launch of National Integration Policy what does that mean? Pl let me know if it is sung in the presence of the President.

    3. If family Planning is ordered cancelled by the President the minute Bodu Bala Sena clamoured for it, what does that tell you about the relationship between BBS and the Prez?

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    “A good leader can engage in a debate frankly and thoroughly, knowing that at the end he and the other side must be closer, and thus emerge stronger. You don’t have that idea when you are arrogant, superficial, and uninformed.”

    Nelson Mandela

    It is the duty of the President of a Country to being about social integration among the citizens of the country, irrespective of the divisions of cast, race, religion and ethnicity.

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    Hi American Mama
    Though you tried to show that you are neutral your writings shows your hostility towards a minority. so your writing did not bring any effect.

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      Sure sure.

      My opinion has an effect only if I agree to everything Muslim cry babies have to say I guess

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    American Mama,

    As the name implies, and your claims about where you spent most of your life time I guess you are lost in-between somewhere and do not seem to have been having the rights or in stable condition to comment on certain words you mindlessly uttered.

    1st point:
    Let alone “unseen”, We, Muslims are not worried about any seen forces that could possibly finish us out. But we are peace-loving Sri Lankans who would not want to take our own mother land further backward for years.

    2nd point:
    I really do not understand what your educational,social and professional background, but your expressions hint that relatively uneducated, idiotic frog-in-the-well with hatred towards Islam. Remember, we are Sri Lankans and currently our “backyard” cleaning is related to Halal certs. And we have the global majority who would take care of other issues.

    Most probably your long staying in the West made you forget certain important things? ;)

    Advice: LTTE fight is only over and NOT the war. As you could see the war still continues. Try to completely end the war before you guys invite for another. Bring the country up so every person could live peacefully. Give priority to humanity and throw away all damn ugly religions (whatever it is). Create intellectual citizens who would be real ambassadors of Sri Lanka

    Regards – Ali

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      Dear Mr Ali

      Before U start getting all excited about acting like Muhammad Ali, let me get a few points across for your kind perusal.

      1. If U are ONLY worried about “seen” forces (BBS perhaps)they have the same right as you guys to defend/protest against any perceived threats to their religion without breaking the law.

      2. I have enough academic qualifications to last me a life time. Lets get away from that and talk about halal. Let Mahinda mama look after that. Thats what he was elelcted for. You maybe in amighty hurry and all excited because it is your problem but they have other things to worry about too> this is small potaotes.

      3.Muslims threatening WAR is laughable. When was the last time u guys won a war ? Israel, India, iraq, Mali Afghanistan? Before thinking too high of your international power try saving those rohingya muslims in Myanmar (Burma) who are getting kicked around like a football. The Tamils had India next door with 150 miillion tamil hindus & still couldnt win. Remember ??

      Sri lanka is NOT Thailand where U guys can escape through the border to Malaysia. You guys are surrounded in Sri lanka and all the powerful nations in this world USA Russsia China India UK etc are non muslims.

      Dont mess with mahinda mama and Gota ayya :)

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        Dear American Mama,

        Your reply sounds that you are pathetically ignorant person, despite you claim an educated. It does not seem that my points went into your minds or you did not read it more than once :)

        You said “perceived threats to their (BBS) religion” ?? Did you just copy paste these words from elsewhere? or wrote with complete understanding of what is going on?? How could Halal cert or little increase in census be a potential threat? Rights?? Don’t you know that your right to swing your arm ends at where my nose begins??
        Where is your favourite “mama” and “Ayya” to do their duty to nip it in the bud? (especially having had a bitter experience with another minority and still struggling to get away from it)

        This could be potato for you, because if this erupts you would run back to West or USA then come back when everything is calm and proudly say “most of my time I spent in West” lolz..

        When talk of Global majority power, all it needs to do is to issue a circular from the Interior ministries to send back and stop maids from Sri Lanka and your favorite “mama” and “ayya” would have to depend only on “vedda’s” boomerages and arrows to fight a war…

        Let me clarify another dumb point and childish talk:
        Only in Sri Lanka the war goes along with religion, and not in developed worlds. So powerful nations do not have a religion, they just have the enemy and the economic needs. Otherwise do you think that Sri Lanka is even remotely a challenge for India, if it wants to support LTTE??

        I guess you have thrown away your religion and robed in yellow is what makes you think communal. Those robed in Yellow with real religious values are much peace-loving, smarter, decent and never arm others.

        You have the right to reply, but do not expect a reply from me back and honestly I do not think that your IQ deserves a reply.

        Finally you made my day when you said “Dont mess with mahinda mama and Gota ayya :) ” .. oh..my poor frog in the well..

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          I do study your all comments that are pertaining to the context.
          I am a SINHALA Buddhist. When I do my shopping Am not worrying with HALAL symbol because firstly I am seeking if there any HALAL symbol then I am not buying them, OK.

          My intention here is about THE OLUWIL TREATY which late Mr,Asrof(leader of Muslim congress) declared in year 2003.In this treaty he clearly mentioned that MUSLIMS are a nation,they are predominant people in East province and it is their self ruling territory.
          Do Muslims in sri lanka still believe this OLUWIL TREATY is an achievable target as tamil leader’s VADUKKODAY TREATY which passed in year 1976?

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            Hello Samarasekara,

            Your selection of food is your choice, you are right in that.

            OLUWIL TREATY? ;)
            Let me brief a bit of history of Oluwil or Ashraf Nagar.

            Late Mr. Ashraf who represented the people of Oluwil fought for the same inhabitants with lack of economical or political power and whose history traces back to 1952.

            In 1983 – 1996, Inhabitants of Oluwil were victims of LTTE.
            However In 1998, Buddhist Monks along with the military claimed that there was archaeological artifacts important to the Buddhist and several acres of lands taken away from these poor helpless people.

            This is when late Mr. Ashraf came into picture and showed exemplary leadership to get at least part of these poor inhabitants’s lands back for them.

            How could a leader doing what rightfully is his duty, put you into Islamophobia??

            Some of you guys’ funny reactions quite clearly show that your weaker side due to mixture of phobias integrated within you for unknown reasons.

            That only psychological treatments can help you guys and not clashing with another minority.

            Since you already sound a tax-payer burdening pensioner, why don’t you do some research on the Internet and find some meaningful reasons for it??? ha..ha.. :)

            Regards man.. -Ali

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              Dear friend,

              I appreciate your respond in relation with OLUWIL TREAT.

              Nevertheless I couldn’t get the appropriate answer.I didn’t ask the circumstance which lead to originate so called OLUWIL TREAT.

              I just asked “Do Muslims in sri lanka still believe this OLUWIL TREATY is an achievable target as tamil leader’s VADUKKODAY TREATY which passed in year 1976? ”

              WHY YOU ARE ELIMINATING THE QUESTION? HAVE YOU SOMETHING TO HIDE FROM THE PUBLIC?

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          Mr Ali

          Maybe Muslims don’t know the meaning of democracy. “Perceived threats” is just what it is. Perceived. One has the freedom to warn others about it. That’s freedom of speech & gathering. Whether the threat is real or NOT others will decide. Your “..ending at my nose..” phrase means just what I said “… without breaking the law !!”

          = Where is your favourite “mama” and “Ayya” to do their duty to nip it in the bud?”
          Again repeating what I said. This might be a big matter for you ( Muslims think like kids in the candy shop. “I want it now”). But they have other things to do & will act at the correct time. Are Muslims being killed right now in street corners ? All I see is the Ulemas, Azath Sally Kabir Hashim and BBS yelling at each other over the table.

          “send back and stop maids “
          Buddy don’t boast about the maid business. If U think Sri Lankans are scared of losing the Maid business with the Arabs U are sadly mistaken. Sri Lanka existed before the Maid business & will exist afterwards too. It is the Arabs who came and settled in Sri Lanka and not vice versa.

          ” powerful nations don’t have religion ?””
          How old are you ? Who is attcking the Muslims today in Mali, Iraq, Chechnya, Uyghur province etc..Talk to the French, the US, Russians etc.

          ” Sri lanka is not a challenge to India ?”

          Are you out of your mind. India is not going to care about the Tamils or the muslims. Both are headaches to the Indian Central govt. That’s what I meant. Not that Sri lanka can defeat India. If something happens to either the Muslims or Tamils, Indian central government has it’s own way of looking at it. That’s why they didn’t help the LTTE.

          I threw away religion because Buddhists Muslims and Christians are all on average hypocritical self-serving idiots who talk one thing but practice another.

          My IQ is pretty good. U are running away because U just got no game left in you.

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      “Give priority to humanity and throw away all damn ugly religions (whatever it is)”

      The only sensible thing you said in your post

      Good advice to be used in the mosques these days.

      Actually I threw away my religion a long time ago. Are U ready to follow your own advice ? I don’t think so somehow.

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        “Princes and governments are far more dangerous
        than other elements within society.”For you from
        Machiavelli.

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        “One change always leaves the way open for the
        establishment of others.”Another one from the
        same Machiavelli.

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    since when we have halal water and toothpaste in srilanka ,even in europe no halal water or toothpaste.

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      If not interested or ignorant of ingredients in any
      product,why sudden worry about Halal approval anyway?
      Liver bros gave us Signal tooth paste and did we ask
      them what it is made out of?Anyone allergy to Halal
      is free to go for Haram.Simple

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    Mama has a point there…..countries with muslim majority treat other religions like dirt while they want all the rights in other secular nations..the bottom line of the problem is that Muslims put their religion in front of everything..even before morality ,humanity and so on…I don no whether it’s right or wrong but I feel that’s not a way of life in a secular environment.

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    Mama, Don’t forget about 9,11 still it is a history, your revenge in Iraq, Iran, Palasine, etc not yet completed, sinece then American mama has no good night sleep. you may need some more,

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    American Mama
    In Tamil some time the word “mama” denotes a pimp. The way you answers comments reminds me that word. It is in vain to reply to comments of people like you.

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      Mr Ali in disguise I presume ??

      Pimps generally say it straight to the face

      Besides when did Muslims start quoting tamils :)

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        Hello AM,

        That is not me…

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          Hello Mr. Mohammed Ali

          That’s not me either :)

          Just kidding. A bit of detective work is needed to determine whether Native veddah, Aney Appotchchi, Maha Danamutta, Mohammed Ali etc are all from the same family !!!

          I have been around & I am well aware that , that sort of thing happens a lot in cyber space.

          It’s OK, because the dialogue helps me while away an enforced hiatus due to ill health.

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            American Mama

            “A bit of detective work is needed to determine whether Native veddah, Aney Appotchchi, Maha Danamutta, Mohammed Ali etc are all from the same family !!!”

            Stop lumping Vedda with other stupid people.

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    We gain a lot by reading Gehan Perera’s article.Hats off to him. However many have made unnecessary, unwanted, hate provoking comments which do not contribute any good to any body.Sharing information and views contribute to development of our faculties and better understanding.Unfortunately, when it comes to express views, we sometimes become childish and verbally ruthless.If we live among the dead, then fine we can be very vociferous. But we are living therefore let us be vociferous not to insult at each other but to share,learn and live peacefully. I assume Jehan will agree too.

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    Someone describing himself as Abuyamen says “In Tamil sometimes the word “mama” denotes a pimp” Where in tarnation did you learn that?
    There is no such thing as a pimp in Tamil culture. Those who borrow the
    ancient Tamil culture must not confuse matters with their own gutter culture and business traits.

    Senguttuvan

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    Dear Samarasekara,

    I briefed you the scenarios surrounding the Oluwil for your info and for others not to get into any misunderstandings.

    On what basis do you expect me to reply on behalf, or represent an entire community? Is it because my name says ‘Mohamed Ali’??

    So, is it how you do your calculations in other matters as well?

    Only God can save our kids’ future in this land if you continue this way.

    Regards

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