7 December, 2022

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Mahavamsa- An Insult To The Buddha!

By Sharmini Serasinghe

Sharmini Serasinghe

Sharmini Serasinghe

Caution- The following is more suitable for the broad-minded and the wise. Others are kindly advised to pass!

Wonder if ours might have been a wiser, and a more ‘humane’ society, had our ‘ancient’ history, been based on Aesop’s Fables, instead of the Mahavamsa. For if not for the Mahavamsa, the Sinhalese may not have been endowed, with the reputation, of “Sinhalaya Modaya (The Sinhalese are Fools)”!

In this “wonderland” called Sri Lanka, and in this day and age, one still comes across ‘academically’ educated, and supposedly intelligent ‘Buddhists’, but sadly lacking in wisdom, who reverently believe, that the Buddha walked out of his mother’s womb, and walked seven steps, while lotuses blossomed, under his feet!

These very same supposedly educated, and intelligent ‘Buddhists’ also believe, that the enormous indentation, resembling a footprint on a boulder, at Adam’s Peak (Sri Pada to ‘Buddhists’), to be that of the Buddha. This would be in keeping with the conviction that the Buddha, was as tall, or perhaps even taller, than the Avukana Buddha statue, which stands above 40 feet (12 meters) in height!

Then, there is the ‘Dalada Maligawe’ in Kandy; most Buddhists believe, the tooth relic housed within, belonged to the Buddha. Some adorn the ‘tooth casket’ with mounds of gold jewelry, fervently believing, that they would earn merit, to the value of the gold they offer. The thought of donating the value of this gold, to feed and help, the poor, sick and the needy, that would be far more meritorious, never cross their minds!

There hangs a controversial question, over the authenticity of this ‘sacred tooth’. But then again, to those ‘educated and intelligent Buddhists’, devoid of wisdom, if the Buddha, was taller than the Avukana statue, and had a giant footprint, as on Adam’s Peak, then this ‘huge tooth’ could be his!

However it does not matter, if the tooth is over-sized, belonged to the Buddha or not, because he the ‘wise one’ asserted, that his followers must not revere, nor worship, any part of his physical self, nor idolize him. Had the Buddha wanted otherwise, he would have left not just a tooth, but his entire skeleton, for his followers to worship.

The annual Esala Perahera, in Kandy, is yet another case in point. This colourful and spectacular ‘parade’ of the ‘tooth relic’, atop a magnificent elephant, is nothing but an ego-boosting exercise, of small minded men of yore, and now, a tradition of small minded men of the present. The ‘Esala Perahera’ therefore, is no relation of Buddhism!

Then there are also those ‘Buddhists’, who on Full Moon (Poya) days, make a bee-line draped in white, to the temple, to ‘pray’ to ‘God Buddha’. They piously recite the ‘Five Precepts’ and other Buddhist verses, as in ‘praying’, facing a perceived image, of the miracle performing ‘God Buddha’. The Five Precepts- the basic code of ethics that the Buddhist laity, is required to abide by, cease to hold any value, beyond the temple gates!

They offer flowers, to clay and stone images of the Buddha, and light oil lamps, as it is an idée recue; believing by doing so, one earns enormous merit. Little do they understand the significance, of such customs; they fail to connect the similarity of flowers and the oil lamp, with their impermanent life – ‘anicca’.

Then they also go on to bathe the ‘Bo tree’ (Bodhi Puja), with pots of water, thereby encouraging tree-rot, expecting the ‘holy’ tree’ under which ‘God Buddha’ attained enlightenment, to bestow merit upon them to. During trying times, unable to accept their ‘karma’, they once again flood the ‘Bo tree’, expecting deliverance from their misery.

When this unique ‘brand’ of Sinhala/Mahavamsa-Buddhism fails to deliver, they next make a bee-line, to a Hindu kovil, break coconuts, praying for miracles, as well as cursing and damning to hell, fellow human beings. Then off they go, to a Christian church and light candles and then, to Sai Baba or even a Mosque (I have no idea what they do there). At all these places, promises (vows) are made, to various Gods, on a quid pro quo basis. Some, even resort to animal sacrifice!

Then, there are also those who believe, that the Mahawamsa was authored, by the Buddha himself!

All that the Buddha asked, of his followers, was to lead a life according to his noble teachings. But this, most find so hard to do, especially the ‘simple’ minded, Mahavamsa-Buddhist!

Mahavamsa Lies and Deceit

Perhaps nowhere in the world, might one find, this strange practice of Buddhism, other than by most Sinhalese; for it is neither a religion nor a philosophy. It is a unique ‘culture’, passed off as Buddhism, in Sri Lanka!

Who and what distorted the Buddhist philosophy, in Sri Lanka? I say firmly, the blame must be laid fair and square, at the feet of Mahanama thera, and his ‘book of Buddhist tales’- the Mahavamsa. For, it deals mostly, with mythical and supernatural tales of so called, Buddhist history, with some borrowed from the ‘Mahabaratha’ and ‘Ramayana’.

Through his Mahavamsa, Mahanama portrayed Sri Lanka, as the ‘Dammadeepa’; the chosen land of the Buddha, to protect and propagate his Dhamma. He, Mahanama said, (NOT the Buddha), that Buddhism will prevail, for five-thousand years, and the Sinhalese alone, must “protect” it.

Perhaps at a time, when Buddhism began to lose its popularity in India, The monks of the Mahavihara, especially Mahanama, might have panicked, and therefore decided to make Sri Lanka a ‘Buddhist Country’, in order to ‘protect’ Buddhism.

Thus, he created the Sinhala race, by bringing together, those from various tribes and ethnic groups, to create this one ‘supreme’ race- Sinhala-Buddhist; Buddha’s chosen people, Mahanama said, to protect Buddhism, for five-thousand years!

The Buddhist scriptures, Tripitaka, (Viniya, Suttaand Abhidhamma), and the Mahavamsa, were both written in the Pali language. Therefore the average Buddhist laity, who was not au fait with this language, would not have understood the difference between the Tripitaka, and the Mahavamsa. Hence when Buddhist monks preached the Mahavamsa, the laity accepted all that the monks said, as the true words of the Buddha.

From that day forward, 2600 years ago, the Buddhist clergy of this country, transformed the Buddhist philosophy, into an ‘ethnic’ religion of the Sinhalese, and propagated it as such, as per the Mahavamsa. Thus, over the past 2600 years, Buddhists, in this country, have been misled, misguided, led astray and lied to, by our Buddhist clergy, and their ‘bible’- the Mahavamsa!.

By converting the philosophy into a religion, Buddhist monks, also converted the Buddha, into a ‘God’, and themselves, as his ‘Messengers’, who must be revered and worshiped; totally disregarding the Buddha’s words-

Believe nothing, in the faith of traditions,
even though, they have been held in honor,
for many generations, and in diverse places.


Do not believe, a thing, because many people speak of it.
Do not believe, in the faith, of the sages of the past.
Do not believe, what you yourself have imagined,
persuading yourself, that a God inspires you.


Believe nothing, on the sole authority, of your masters and priests.
After examination, believe what you yourself, have tested
and found, to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.”
The Buddha

A case in point, as it is recorded nowhere, of the Buddha having said, is that alms must be offered to monks, in one’s home or at a temple, seven-days, three-months and one-year after a death, in one’s family.

This practice perhaps, originated through a custom, followed by our ancestors, that has today become sine qua non, for Buddhists-

2600 years ago, a Buddhist temple was the only venue, of social gathering, activity and entertainment, in a village. Hence, when a ‘Rite of Passage’ i.e. death in a family occurred, it was only natural, for the entire village, including Buddhist monks, to visit the bereaved family, and offer words and deeds of comfort and consolation, to them .

Sinhalese hospitality being such, all gathered, would be offered a meal, by the bereaved family, and the monks too, would partake of that meal. This, over the years, became part and parcel, and a ‘religious ceremony’, of the Sinhala- Buddhist ‘religion’.

With time, the Buddhist clergy, introduced a sense of ‘guilt’, to the Buddhist laity, that if such ‘alms-giving ceremonies’, were not held, the departed will be reborn, in ‘hell’. So once again, ‘debunking’ the Buddha’s theory, of ‘karma’ (unavoidable results, of our intentional actions), the monks carved a path of convenience, and reverence, for themselves.

So, according to Sinhala/Mahavamsa-Buddhism, even a murderer, rapist, child molester, and others as such, could circumvent their bad ‘karma’ and be reborn in ‘heaven’, courtesy alms and gifts, offered to Buddhist monks.

Coming from a family regarded as ‘pillars’ of the Buddhist temple, I have observed and been made to participate, in this ridiculous practice, of alms-givings, since early childhood. My paternal grandmother, in Galle, held an annual alms-giving, at her home, for a hundred corps d’elite of Buddhist monks. She had the best of the most expensive crockery, brass ‘padikkamas’, (spitting pots)’ et al, set aside, for the exclusive use of each of these monks. My grandmother, in Kandy was no different.

Today, no event of significance, for a Sinhala-Buddhist is held, without the patronage and ‘blessings’ of the ‘Maha Sangha’ (Buddhist monks). And our foolish laity, continue to believe, that the more you feed and spoil these ‘people’, the more ‘merit’ they, and their dearly departed, would receive!

Who will convince them otherwise, certainly not the Buddhist clergy!

Mahavamsa- a Sinhala-Buddhist Political Guide

If one was to go by the Mahavamsa, the Sinhala race came about, through a mythical union between a lion and a human princess. Perhaps that explains why, Mahavamsa-Buddhists, are so lethargic and bloodthirsty!

But in reality, the Sinhalese race, was a creation of the Buddhist monks of the Mahavihara, who themselves originated from India (unless they were aboriginal Veddhas).

The Mahavihara monk, Mahanama, projected himself as the Messenger of the Buddha- a 1000 years after the passing away of the Buddha himself.

The Mahavamsa was written at a time, when all Sinhalese were Buddhists and all Tamils were Hindus, long before other religions, were introduced to our country.

So, author Mahanama, designed the Mahavamsa to be, instead of a historical record of the Sinhalese and Tamils of Lanka, as a Buddhist canonical text, for the descendants of a Lion!

He took ‘bits’ and ‘pieces’ from Hinduism viz the caste system, idol worshiping, astrology, superstition etc., and projected the Buddha as a superhuman, or a God. This made it more appealing, to the average human psyche; as a religion is far easier to deal with, than a complex philosophy like Buddhism.

So today, we have Sinhala-Buddhists running around in circles, when facing a crisis, between, temples, kovils, churches, mosques and ‘others’ such, as Sai Baba.

Though the author intended the Mahavamsa to be, for the “serene joy of the pious” it contradicts itself, by condoning and equating the killing of human “invaders”, with “sinners, and wild beasts”.

He, Mahanama, in his Mahavamsa justifies, and glorifies the murder by Dutugemunu, of thousands of Tamils he called “invaders”, by equating them with “sinners, and wild beasts”. So, where is Buddhism in that? Thus, how can one regard the Mahavamsa, as a Buddhist guide?

If the Maha Sangha had been sincere, and honest from the outset, they would have disassociated the Mahavamsa, from Buddhism. Had they done so, Buddhism in Sri Lanka today, might have been practiced as the Buddha meant it to be; as per the Dhamma.

Therefore it is the linking of Buddhism with the Sinhalese, this text stands for, that has over the years, formed the mentality of the Sinhala-Buddhist psyche. It became a cast or a mould, of the Sinhala-Buddhist racist; a psychological tool, and a political guide of the Sinhala-Buddhists.

The Curse of the Caste System

What made all those Sinhalese who were originally Buddhists, turn to other religions?

The caste system, denounced by the Buddha, has been fostered by none other, than the Buddhist clergy of the Mahavamsa, themselves. They divided themselves between Nikayas, based on caste, and banned those Buddhists, they called ‘low caste’, from entering the temples, they administered.

Therefore, is it any wonder, that those Sinhalese Buddhists, would turn to a more compassionate faith, where caste, creed or ethnicity, has no place? Perhaps those Mahavamsa/Sinhala-Buddhists, like the Bodu Bala Sena (BBS), their sponsors and supporters, ought to reflect on what they say and do, and ask themselves, why these Sri Lankans, who were originally Sinhalese Buddhists, renounced Buddhism, and embrace other faiths?

Strangely, in India, it is the ‘low castes’; Harijans/Dalits, once called “untouchables” or “pariahs”, who are Buddhists, and not the Brahmins of India, despite the Buddha, being a Brahmin himself.

To the Brahmins of India, one’s caste was a matter of vital importance, but one of utter indifference to the Buddha. He strongly condemned, the degradation, of the caste system. In his Order, Monks of all castes were united, as do the rivers in the sea. They lost their former names, castes, and clans, and came to be known, as members of One Community– the Sangha.

Once, the Buddha, while begging for alms, approached the house of the Brahmin, Aggikabharadvaja. The Brahmin, seeing the Buddha at a distance, shouted out: “Stay there, you shaveling, stay there you wretched monk, stay there you outcast.” The Buddha, gently asked the Brahmin: “Do you know, Brahmin, who an outcast is, and what are the conditions, that make one an outcast?”

To the dumbstruck Brahmin, the Buddha said, “”Birth makes not a man an outcast, Birth makes not a man a Brahmin; Actions make a man an outcast, Actions make a man a Brahmin.” (Sutta-nipâta, 142)

Thus, the Buddha admitted freely, into the Buddhist Order, all those he deemed fit, to lead the holy life, from all walks of life, castes and classes. Some went on to distinguish themselves, in the Buddhist Order. The Buddha was one, who united all those torn apart, by man-made differences, of caste, creed and class.

Today, save a few, where does one find these wise words, of the Buddha, practiced by our Sangha, of the Mahavamsa?

Mahavamsa Indoctrination-

I recall my first, school Buddhist text book, as a six-year-old in Grade-One. The cover of the book was illustrated with a picture, of a fully clothed infant Buddha, walking on lotus blossoms. After querying its significance, I was informed by my ‘Buddhism’ teacher, that the Buddha walked, soon after he was born and informed all, that he would be the greatest. And because of this, lotuses blossomed, with each step he took.

For a child, who was constantly seeing her newborn cousins, not capable of such miracles, this seemed like magic to me. So I asked my teacher, if the Buddha was a magician. I was severely admonished, as a “pow kareya” (sinner), and punished for being irreverent.

From that day forward, I became extremely cautious, of whoever tried to talk Buddhism to me, until I became a lay disciple, from childhood to adulthood, of the late Rev. Piyadassi Maha Thera. My ‘guru’ taught me Buddhism, in its original form, as per the Dhamma, and not its corrupt, Mahavamsa version!

From an early age, the innocent and pure minds, of Sinhalese Buddhist children, are ‘brainwashed’, by foolish parents and teachers, with Sinhala-Buddhist racism; Mahavamsa Buddhism!

They are taught, to regard, the ‘other’, who is not a Sinhala-Buddhist, as “an invader”. They are taught, not to trust this ‘other’, who does not belong to Sri Lanka, and is only a ‘guest’, of the ‘benevolent’ Sinhala-Buddhists.

Thus, they are taught, at an early age, that all Tamils, Muslims, Hindus, Christians (Sinhala Christians included) and others, must be chased away, from Mahavamsa-Buddhist Sri Lanka, just as in ancient times, when King Dutugemunu, killed or  chased away the “invaders”, to Tamil Nadu.

In Mahavamsa Buddhism, there is no place, for the Buddha’s Dhamma, of tolerance and compassion!

My ‘Accidents’ with Mahavamsa-Buddhism

My first school was a Convent, in Galle. Here, I was a very happy child, amidst a mélange of others, of various ethnic groups, and religions, including Buddhism.

With time, my Buddhist family thought it essential, for me to change to a Buddhist school. So there I ended up in an exclusive Sinhalese Buddhist private school for girls, in Colombo.

As an eleven-year-old, coming from a Convent, I was most unprepared for the ‘culture shocks’ that awaited me, at this private Buddhist school!

Coming from a family background, where displaying one’s wealth, was regarded as vulgar, as exposing one’s body, I was horrified, at the liberties afforded to the students, and teachers of this Buddhist school. Some tended to favour, students who displayed, their recently acquired family wealth; decked in gold, and dressed in ‘mini’ uniforms, and flashed money freely. They laughed and ridiculed those who appeared less privileged.

For instance, my father once dropped me in school, in his jeep, on his way to Galle. A teacher seeing this, (ironically it was my ‘Buddhism’ teacher), announced in class, that I had come to school that day, in a lorry. Of course as to be expected, I was ridiculed and made fun of, by most of my classmates. I wondered how they might have treated me, had I come to school, by bus!

The horror of studying ‘Buddhism’, in a Buddhist school, is a story by itself!

What was ‘taught’ as Buddhism, and passed off as ‘teaching’ was in fact, a self-teaching exercise, where we the students, were ordered to memorize, Buddhist verses in Pali, with no meaning of the verses offered, while the teacher napped, at her table.

This is how they ‘taught’ Buddhism, in a Buddhist school, that charged exorbitant fees, from unsuspecting parents, who believed their offspring were receiving, a ‘sound Buddhist education’. All this happened, thirty-five years ago (late 70s), and I sincerely hope, this situation has changed, for the better now.

Severely traumatised, by my horrifying ‘Buddhist school’ experience, my parents moved me back, to a Convent. And once again, I happily found myself amidst, a mélange of girls, of various ethnic groups, and religions.

With Mahavamsa-Buddhism, I seem to be accident-prone!

As a young adult, I came across many, who regarded the iconic Sinhala-Buddhist-Anagarika Dharmapala, as the next best thing, to Lord Buddha. Their hypocritical practice, of Mahavamsa-Buddhism, left a bitter taste, in my mouth, I yet feel to date.

Yet another ‘unfortunate accident’ I met, with Mahavamsa Buddhism, was when I tried to have my young son of eight years, admitted to a ‘Buddhist Sunday School’, at a leading Buddhist temple, in Colombo. The person in charge, of new admittance, was a short-tempered ‘gentleman’ of the Buddhist laity.

This ‘gentleman’ informed me, in an angry and loud voice, that I had no business, as a woman, admitting my son, though I was his mother, to a Buddhist Sunday School. He demanded that my son, be accompanied, by his father, if I wished to have him admitted, to this Buddhist Sunday School!

I wondered how, widows managed to admit their sons, to this Buddhist Sunday School.

Teach Comparative Religion in Schools

As a lay-student, of the world renowned most Venerable Piyadassi Maha Thera, I consider myself privileged, to have had such an eminent Guru, of the Buddhist order. Rev. Piyadassi, as I referred to him, had been a close friend of my family for generations, with whom we, as a family, had frequent interaction.

Here was a highly educated, intellectual Buddhist prelate, who would insist that we sit with him at table, and have lunch along with him, while I, as a curious teenager, bombarded him with questions on Buddhism, which he answered patiently and clearly. This type of interaction, with such teachers, is what is required today.

With Rev. Piyadassi’s demise in 1998, in my eyes at the time, he left shoes too big to be filled. But now I know better. For there are many Buddhist prelates and monks of his caliber out there, who are worthy of being revered and worshipped, as the true messengers of Lord Buddha’s philosophy, and they are those, who can guide Sri Lanka’s future Buddhist generations, away from Mahavamsa indoctrination, and on to the correct path.

Alas, such genuine Buddhist prelates and monks, never make news, and are often found in jungles, in deep meditation.

If Sri Lanka’s incumbent President, sincerely wishes to safeguard and foster Buddhism, in its pristine form, then it is his bounden duty, to bring forth a system, whereby our impressionable younger and future generations, are taught the Dhamma, by intelligent and educated Buddhist prelates, as opposed to those stick-in the-mud, Mahavamsa-Buddhist monks, who by no stretch of one’s imagination, are pristine models of Buddhism, to do the job.

The incumbent President has assured more than once, of “religious freedom for all communities, by enhancing interreligious harmony and tolerance”. If he is sincere, then he ought to consider introducing the subject of ‘Comparative Religion’, to all schools, whereby all would understand, the religion of the other.

This would ensure, from an early age, a deeper understanding of the fundamental philosophy of different religions, practiced in Sri Lanka, and that no religion, is above the other.

A child, who has undertaken such a course of study, will undoubtedly have a much deeper understanding of human beliefs and practices, and therefore be more tolerant of each other; not feel threatened by the religion of the other.

This would ideally lead, to our ultimate dream, of a peaceful Sri Lanka, for one and all!

However, the question begs, are our politicians selfless and sincere enough, to take up such a challenge?

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    Good one…

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      good piece of writing, mahavamsa is the biggest lie about sri lankan history. it only favours kings who have helped the temple like dutugemunu but king Udaya IV captured a part of India & most of the kings like Kasyapa had more than 500 concubines but has no mention of it , currently buddhism is influenced much with Hinduism. Lord Buddha didn’t tell people to look at their stars and decide the future. if people really believe in Buddha words and practice them it will not be s barrier for them in mixing with other religions. its not Buddhism that has made the Sinhalese Buddhist arrogant it is their unwillingness to accept the roots of the evolving of the Sinhalese with Indians. the mahavamsa now has written 3 chapters about the rajapaksa royal family, but has no mention of fonseka. and has only 1 paragraph of chandrika. people should be more open for dialogue and express their views that will reduce the need for friction among them

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        Mahawamsa time stood, for 2300 years, flamboyant Sinhala Buddhist bashing writers like sharminee cannot undo that.

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          It’s time to de-brain-wash Sinhala Buddhists of Mahvamsa:
          Sharmini Serasinghe is the best person to spearhead it.

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            Before that she needs to learn basic buddhism

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              Sach:- Which book would you suggest Sharmini reads, to learn the basic Buddhism you follow?

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                Tripitaka.

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                  yep buddha charitha is described in tripitaka. If she still doesnt understand she can try daham pasal grade 1 book . Between u ve missed to answer my reply to u before

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                    Right Sach, is this the Basic Buddhism you follow? Now I can understand, where your posts are coming from!

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                      So are u asking me not to follow thripitaka? just try to answer my comments without every time fleeing from my replies

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              This idiot Sach sounds very much like our old buddy Leela the crook of ‘Lee Potter’ fame.

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                who is leela? why for a change try to counter argue with points instead of throwing insults? are you unable to do so?

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              To Sach, Kirthi, Jim Softy and all those insulting Sharmini on this thread.This is my response to them-
              One day Buddha was walking through a village. A very angry and rude young man came up and began insulting him. “You have no right teaching others,” he shouted. “You are as stupid as everyone else. You are nothing but a fake.” Buddha was not upset by these insults. Instead he asked the young man “Tell me, if you buy a gift for someone, and that person does not take it, to whom does the gift belong?” The man was surprised to be asked such a strange question and answered, “It would belong to me, because I bought the gift.” The Buddha smiled and said, “That is correct. And it is exactly the same with your anger. If you become angry with me and I do not get insulted, then the anger falls back on you. You are then the only one who becomes unhappy, not me. All you have done is hurt yourself.” “If you want to stop hurting yourself, you must get rid of your anger and become loving instead. When you hate others, you yourself become unhappy. But when you love others, everyone is happy.” ― Since Shamini is not accepting it will belong to you -Sach, Kirthi, Jim Softy and all those insulting Sharmini.

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                where have i insulted shamini? I have pointed out the errors in her logic. I am not like you, i am very much equipped with knowledge to counter argue i dont depend on insults like you. And between read the the para u urself pasted, it would be beneficial to you

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          The Mahavansa was written more than 1000 years after Buddha, even the Tripitika was written many years after Buddha, don’t you think, within this one complete millennium even if some people/monks kept on passing from generation to generation verbally until it was written down, spurious doctrines would have got added, perverting in great measure the real intent and meaning of the Buddha’s peerless Dhamma unless those who listened and remembered were super human?

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            ‘The Buddha himself wrote nothing, and none of his teaching was written down for at least four hundred years after his death. We therefore do not know what the Buddha taught, any more than we know what Jesus taught and today at least four schools, with sub-division in each, proclaim their own view as to what is Buddhism’.

            The disappearance of original teachings and practices of Buddha are almost complete today, for the Buddhists are sunk in superstitions, idol worship and religious rituals which were condemned and discarded by Buddha. Original Buddhism has changed colors completely.

            H.G. Wells (An Outline of History Page 392) has described this in a very terse language. ‘Gautama’s disciples have cared more for the preservation of his tree than of his thought, which from the first they distorted and misconceived (the Bo tree which helped him to rest his back, while achieved ‘enlightenment’, still exists and with a sapling from the original tree planted in Sri Lanka, the Sri Maha Bodi in Anuradapura , venerated and worshipped excessively)’.

            Gautama Buddha achieved enlightenment at the age of thirty-five. From then until he died forty-five years later, he devoted his entire life to preaching his ethical doctrines. Yet he never paid any attention to the vitally important task of recording his message in a permanent written form.

            The Scriptures of Buddhism are numerous and mutually conflicting. Buddhism employed, in the main, two languages for recording scriptures. In the Pali language are recorded the scriptures of the Hinayana sect, in the Sanskrit language those of the Mahayana sect. Both these sets of scriptures oppose each other. This makes a Hinayana – Mahayana reconciliation next to impossible. Both these languages, Pali and Sanskrit, are now virtually dead or survive only as literary curiosities.

            The most striking and undisputable statement about the authenticity of the Buddhist scriptures is by Chief Monk Akuratiye Amarawansa, Chancellor of the Vidyodaya Buddhist Pirivena, Maligakanda, Colombo Scholar of the Tripitaka and Chief Monk of Southern Sri Lanka. In his preface to the Sinhala translation of Deega Nikaya, he has expressed the following:

            ‘The Deega Nikaya that we see today cannot be assuredly said to be the same one that was presented to the first reform council (Dharma Sangayana). Many reform councils were held subsequently and these Nikayas and divisions would have been subjected to many changes. Therefore, the most acceptable view would be that the present Deega Nikaya is a collection of sutras subjected to changes, additions and deletions taken place after the first reform council.’

            The above statement deals lengthily about the amendments, additions and deletions of the sacred scriptures of Buddhism done after Buddha. Another striking point is the extraordinary differences in the chronology of Buddha’s appearance adopted by the various nations that have embraced his faith. This difference amounts to nearly two thousand years. The Chinese have the following dates for this event: B.C., 640, 767, 949, 1045 and 1130. From the Tibetan books, fourteen different dates have been collected by the learned Hungarian, Cosma de Korosi: B.C., 546, 576, 653, 752, 837, 880, 882, 884, 1060, 1310, 2135, 2139, 2144 and 2422. The Japanese date is about B.C. 1000. Fa Hian, a Chinese traveler who visited Sri Lanka in C.E. 410, says that ten days before the middle of the third moon, the King of this island was accustomed to send a preacher to proclaim the austerities and mortifications of Buddha, at the conclusion of which he declared: ‘Since his parinirvana (death) 1497 years have elapsed’, which would make the death of Buddha to be in the year B.C. 1087 (Laidlay’s Pilgrimage of Fa Hian). Hiun Thsang, another Chinese pilgrim, who wrote in C.E. 640, after his return from India, says that the accounts differ about Buddha?s death, it being fixed at 900, 1000, 1200, 1300 and 1500 years before his time.

            The Mahavansa (chronology of Sri Lanka) fixes the same date for the death of Buddha and the landing of Vijaya in Sri Lanka but this date, B.C. 543, is never found in the sacred chronology of Buddhism, before it was borrowed from the chronology of Sri Lanka (Max Muller: Ancient Sanskrit Literature).

            Dr. Edward Conze, in his book, ‘Buddhism, Its Essence and Development’ remarks: ‘Buddhism is a body of traditions in which few names stand out, and in which fewer dates are precisely known. It is indeed most exasperating when we try to apply our current ideas of historical criticism. Langlois and Seignobos in their textbook of historical method, state that a document whose author, date and sources from which it has come cannot be determined, is just good for nothing’. Dr. Conze goes on to remark sadly: ‘Alas, that is the case with most of the documents on which we build a history of Buddhism’.

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              So what are you trying to say that Buddhism is a hoax and the sinhala Buddhists are the modaya s of the world, and they should embrace Christianity or Muslim faith to be the citizens of the world. The under currents of all these articles seems to point in that direction. All other faiths seems perfectly chronicled and stays rock solid while the Buddhists must all either become Christian or Islam.

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                Where did you learn? You are simply trying to give your interpretation to what is in the article. You are a idiot of the highest grade.

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                  You have not read Sharminis word of caution before deciding whether or not you should read this article, which is : the following is more suitable for the BROAD-MINDED and the WISE. Others are kindly advised to pass!

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                  Pls interpret what is in the article. The title is different the content is something else. Please interpret it. Let see your interpretaion

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                You have not read Sharminis word of caution before deciding whether or not you should read this article, which is : the following is more suitable for the BROAD-MINDED and the WISE. Others are kindly advised to pass!

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                Kirthi

                Why don’t you Buddhist embrace Hinduism as most of one time Buddhist in Indian subcontinent have done so. changing from Hinduism to Buddhism and vice versa is a common practice in the Indian subcontinent. whether you take the Hindu label or Buddhist label you still practice the same philosophy as they are almost interchangable.

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                  no they are not. Huge changes. If the problem is with rituals, isnt hinduism worse. And still why should we

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                  None of the four major religions presently practiced by us originated from Sri Lanka. At the beginning, both Sinhalese and Tamils were worshipping the Hindu Gods (King Vijaya built a few eshwarams/Temples as per Dr. Paul Peries) as we see even today, until emperor Ashoka sent his Buddhist missionaries and converted the Hindus into Buddhists.

                  Even though Buddhism has nothing to do with the Hindu Gods, most of the Sinhala Buddhists follow Hinduism along with Buddhism without admitting it in public, as we see at Katharagama, Muneshwaram, Seenigama, and at most of the Buddhist temples, even at the Dalada Maligawa you find Hindu Gods.

                  We cannot expect them to give up their ancient faith which existed before the arrival of Arahat Mahinda, the son of Ashoka who first converted the King and then the subjects.

                  It is a fact that Sinhala Hindus and Tamil Buddhists lived during the early period.
                  Much later, when the Arab traders came in, they introduced Islam and our colonial masters introduced Christianity.

                  So many rituals such as seth/vas kavi, all kinds of Puja, Bali/thovil, etc are all adopted from Hinduism. Buddha never preached any of these. Even though Sinhala-Buddhists follow Buddhism, they will never come out from their ancient Hindu practices that continue till today.

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                    yes but still what connection with Mahabamsa? Arent most of these rituals got adopted as a result of Buddhist people being MORE open to other beliefs. That they didnt treat other faiths as a threat which many here accuse them of?

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                      You have not read Silva’s comment properly. He basically said that the Hinduism existed in Sri Lanka before the arrival of Buddhism. This is why the people did not completely eschew the Hindu gods, goddesses, and rituals. Moreover the chauvinists use the mahavamsa to base their fantasies.

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                      Burning_Issue

                      Even if he reads hundred times he will not be able to understand. He needs to grow up. The grey matter in is skull has still not fully developed well.

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                      BI,

                      There is no point in talking about a debate on Groundviews that I have no knowledge about. Why do you need to talk about Sinhala language on discussing whether Hinduism or Buddhism came here earlier. In Anuradhapura kingdom there is NO evidence of Hindu religion but the influence of it increases with time. That is because Hinduism was brought here much later. If Buddhism was brought to a Hindu society then you will see Hindu features from the very beginning of the civilization and Hindu features getting removed with time which is the exact opposite in SL’s case.
                      Let me put it in simple terms, in Anuradhapura there is NO hindu structure (please read and understand it.i cant repeat it every time). The first Hindu structure found belongs to Polonnaruwa, that is after Chola invasions. And even the Buddha statue making started showing Hindu influence with time. The Buddha statues in Anuradhapura are very simple (ex: Samadhi statue). With time giving beautiful features and adding color was introduced with Hinduism with it reaching its peak in kandy. With these evidences it is ILLOGICAL to say Hinduism were brought here before Buddhism.

                      Sinhala language started even before arrival of Buddhism, with Buddhist missionaries the Sinhala language evolving was without a doubt influenced. The reason many bring that notion that Hinduism was brought to SL before Buddhism is because Hinduism is much older religion than Buddhism (according to them). But they ignore the fact that during Anuradhapura period, South India too had a large Buddhist population. The hindu traditions started in SL AFTER chola invasions.

                      It is only you who can’t find any explanation why Buddhists in SL cling to Hindu practices, but the learned historians have explained it well. There is an anthological aspect to it as well. With Sinhala kings bringing wives from india who are hindus, they were allowed to build Hindu temples, and with chola invasions hindu rituals came here the same way colonialists brought Christianity. When people love together such things happen. Buddhism is not a religion that gives promises to people and give a divine help as some people need so Hinduism was useful in filling that gap. Many temples have hindu gods inside because hindu practices earns money.

                      There were many cases where Buddhists were persecuted in India by Hindu rulers, though this is not much common knowledge and yes hindu revivalism with Islamic conquest did the rest.

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                      @BI,

                      The notion that Hindusim was brought here first is a silly and an easily disprovable point. That is why eelamists talk about Tamil buddhists and why Hoole in CT was telling that Buddhism was here first and tamils were buddhists first.

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                      @silva
                      where have i denied hindu elements in Sinhala culture? Read what i typed. The Hindu influence is very much visible in sinhala culture and no one here dispute that. I was disagreeing with the claim hinduism was here first.

                      Your inablility to read and understand a comment question the authenticity of many of your panditha wakya here.

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                      Sach

                      You have totally misunderstood Hoole. What Hoole is saying is about Buddhism in the island after Asoka’s missanory monk Mahinda converted the King (Tissa) and his subjects (including Tamils) into Buddhism. Tamils were buddhists only after the arrival of Mahinda. We are talking about not just Tamils but everybody before the arrival of Madinda Thero.

                      Please learn a little bit of history (just basics) before you engage in arguments concerned with history. Even if you are ignorant in history, it is always wise not to expose your ignorance.

                      The erudite scholar and historian, Dr.Paul E.Pieris declared in 1917, at a meeting of the Royal Asiatic Society that:

                      ‘Long before the arrival of Vijaya there was in Lanka five recognized Ishwarams of Shiva on all the four sides of ancient Ceylon which claimed and received adoration of all India. These five celebrated Ishwarams or Pancha Ishwaram Temples were important landmarks
                      of the island. These were Thiruketheeshwaram which was near Mahatittha, Muneshwaram dominating Salawatte and the pearl fishery, Thondeshwaram near Mantota, ThiruKoneshwaram near the great Bay of Kottiyar and Naguleshwaram near Kankesanturai ‘ .

                      As an example, let me consider the Thirukoneswaram temple.

                      The earliest of reference is found in the ‘Mahavamsa’ where it says that Mahasena destroyed a Siva temple in the east and bulit a Vihara.

                      An ancient Tamil saiva poet, Thirignanasampanthar has sung thevaaram on ‘Theiruketheesvaram’ and ‘Thirukoneswaram’. That indicates that these two temples were in existence as far back as 6th century BC.

                      There is reference to this Siva temple in elation to Raavana also in Ramaayana which is dated at the beginning of the first millennium.

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                    BI,

                    Hinduism didnt exist before Buddhism comes to SL. Even your tamil intellectuals like Hoole agree with that. The oldest Hindu places of worship are found in Polonnaruwa period. It is with time, Hindu influence became apparent with reaching its peak in Kandyan period.
                    In anypart of SL history Kandy had the biggest Hindu influence. If you want i will talk on this more.
                    Anuradhapura – no hindu influence, Polonnaruwa – little, Gampola, Kurunegala, Yapahuwa – more than pollonnaruwa, Kotte – More than other kingdoms, Kandy – More than Kotte which showed the biggest influence.

                    Please learn about SL history before talking about it.

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                      This shows how ignorant you are, your knowledge of SL history is very limited. Please read the history written by Dr. Paul E. Peiris.

                      According to Dr. Paul E. Peiris, an erudite scholar and historian, Thirukketisvaram was one of the file recognized Eeswarams of Siva in Lanka very long before the arrival of Vijaya in 600 B.C

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                      Such

                      ” Please learn about SL history before talking about it.”

                      This very subject was debated vigorously on Groundviews. It is illogical to assert that Hinduism was not present in Sri Lanka before the arrival of Buddhism! It is indisputable that the Sinhala language evolved in Sri Lanka along with the Sri Lankan Tamils. Evolution of the Sinhala language only commenced after Buddhism taking root. Along with Tamil many Indic languages played roles in developing the Sinhala to the point what you see today.

                      There is no explanation whatsoever to explain as to why the Buddhists in SL still cling on to the Hindu deities. Apart from the Hindu symbols there are many cultural practices that are akin to Hindu practices that the Sinhala still espouse. Hinduism is much ancient than Buddhism and it is conceivable that SL was also a Hindu influenced nation before the arrival of Buddhism. Moreover Buddhism only left India because of revivalism of Hinduism!

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                      Sach,

                      Whether you like it or not, the Sinhala-Buddhist culture is a Hindu-Buddhist culture. Even though you deny it in public, I am sure deep inside you know it is true.

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                      Sach

                      Consider Thirukoneswaram Temple opposite the Great Bay of Koddiyar in Trincomalee as an example,

                      There has been not one Konesar Temple but three, one over the other. The original temple now under sea was a rock cave temple built around an earlier existing Shivalingam. Shivalingams are sacred and holy icons existing from time immemorial. There is an interesting fact the audience may like to know. Mount Kailash in the Himalayas Chidamparam Temple in South India and Thirukoneswaram are said to be on the same longitude.

                      Coming over to historical data furnished by Dr. Vigneswaran, it is his view having examined many sources that the original Thirukoneswaram temple is under sea. In between the present temple and that original temple under sea there appears the second temple. The Gopuram of the old temple, which was of rock, has been identified. There had been deluges recorded in 3,544 BC and between 2,590 BC up to 2,387 BC. During the later deluge part of the original temple went under water including the inner temple, belfry (or bell tower), sides and bottom of the doorframe and the Kerni outside the temple. The spring inside curiously continued to flow into the sea, mingling with it, foaming as it did so. The upper doorframe continued to be visible forming a ‘marker’ for the Hindus who continued to worship there.

                      Thousand years later in 1,300 BC, a king named Manikka Rajan built temples to Lord Shiva, Madhumai Ammal and Lakshmi Narayanan at three different levels, yet all of them occupying the promontory or the headland projecting into the sea facing east. The Shiva Temple was built directly upon the Gopuram of the original rock cave temple. The original rock cave temple is credited to have been built in 512 in Kaliyuga i.e. in 2,590 BC. The deluge was in the year 2,387 BC about 200 years later.

                      Kulakkoddan, son of Vara Rama Thevan, who was a son of Manu Neethi Kanda Cholan, re-built the temple dedicated to Lord Shiva at Thirukonamalai in Lanka and also awarded land to people in the vicinity of Thirukonamalai in Kantalai and other areas. (this village is mentioned in Indrapala’s book).

                      There is a stone inscription, is still there as part of the Fort Built by the Portuguese in Trincomalee with reference to Kulakkoddan.

                      Mylvahana pulavar’s ‘Yaalpaana Vaipava Maalai’ and Mudaliyar Rasanayagam’s ‘Ancient Jaffna’ both referes to this inscription.

                      ‘Majority of the centuries old stone scriptures that unearthed in the northeast province in Sri Lanka that defines Tamil History have been located in Trincomalee district. Most of the scriptures are connected with the history of Koneswaram Temple,’ said Professor C.Pathmanathan, Head of the Department of History in the University of Peradeniya. He conducted a research study tour in the east port district recently.

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                    Good rational thinking.

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                Dear Kirthi. Please be objective and respect others views. Sharmini does not suggest anything but her objective view. If she is wrong, you must be able to rationally and scientifically prove that and forward your idea without implicitly distort the view or original writer.

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                  Jaya,

                  This guy Kirthi is not capable of being objective. He’s stark raving mad.

                  He has written several hate-mail to Sharmini after locating her private email address.

                  If you read them, you will know this man Kirthi is an uncouth bum. He has used such appalling language on Sharmini that a normal person wouldn’t dream of using on any living being, leave alone a lady.

                  He calls himself a great Buddhist, but in his emails to Sharmini, he slanders and denigrates Muslims, Tamil, Christians and anyone else who is not a bigot like him.

                  A psychologist on this thread has diagnosed him as a schizophrenic.

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              mahayana and theravada philosophies are the same. That is dhamma is the same. There is no conlict as you suggest. It is the vinaya that differs with each otherma

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                Mahayana Buddhism is much closer to Hinduism. The ‘devas’ as mentioned by the Buddha is unique to Therevada Buddhism, they (Devas) according to Buddha are normal humans who achieved a higher divine plane, they have nothing to do with the Hindu Gods. There is nothing called God or Gods in Therevada Buddhism.

                In Mahayana Buddhism, Buddha used the following terms, ‘The uncreated’, ‘The Absolute’, ‘Consciousness’, ‘Higher self’, etc for the infinite Spiritual source (Devine or God). In other words it is the same thing what the Christians say as ‘The Almighty God’, ‘The Heavenly Father’, etc and the Muslims call it ‘Allah’ (it has a similar meaning in Arabic). If we go thru the Hindu Vedas they also believe in the same concept. ‘God’, the ‘Infinite Cosmic Intelligence’, the same Spiritual source but broken down into many according to its attributes. The names given to each attribute of God (also in Islam, 99 attributes) later became many gods in Hinduism along with idols. Mahayana Buddhism is written in Sanskrit, not Pali.

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                  It may appear so, but the core is the same

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                    core is the same??? LOL

                    Man, you are one of the BEST Jokers I have seen on this forum. Most of your comments are not only childish (or rather foolish) but also absolutely helarious. You do not have any knowledge in most of what is said here but simply poke your mouth into everything and make yourself a big laughing stock.

                    For everything you have something to say. Picking up things from thin air seems to be very easy for you.

                    Anyways, please continue to entertain us with your jokes.

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                      If what i say is just jokes with no significance then why do you find hard to refute what i say but depend on personal insults.
                      I am a buddhist and I know buddhism. Actually i am not a ritualistic buddhist.

                      many of the pandithayas here including the writer is not knowlegeable in buddhism even though they laught at others. You said buddism practices vegetarianism and which is false. Even a little child knowledgable in Buddhism would know that. If you dont know some thing at least get educated about it and talk without slandering others.

                      It was not me who said the core is the same. It was Walpola Rahula thera who studied several years extensively Mahayana buddhism who said that. I wonder whether you know basics of buddhism.

                      And why talking about Mahayana practices? Isnt the author here talking about theravada practices? So how come what mahayana budhists do have any relevance to Theravada buddhist rituals.

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            “…..Buddhist monks of the Mahavihara maintained chronicles of Sri Lankan history, starting from the 3rd century BCE. These annals were combined and compiled into a single document in the 5th century by the Buddhist monk Mahathera Mahanama. It was written based on prior ancient compilations known as Sinhala Atthakatha, which were commentaries written in Sinhala…..”

            ”…As it often refers to the royal dynasties of India, the Mahavamsa is also valuable for historians who wish to date and relate contemporary royal dynasties in the Indian subcontinent. It is very important in dating the consecration of the Maurya emperor Asoka, which is related to the synchronicity with the Seleucids and Alexander the Great….”

            “…Indian excavations in Sanchi and other locations, confirm the Mahavamsa account of the Empire of Asoka. The accounts given in the Mahavamsa are also amply supported by the numerous stone inscriptions, mostly in Sinhala, found in Sri Lanka…”

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          John, Mahavamsa will be there, but Buddhism will have long disappeared.

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          You have not read Sharminis word of caution before deciding whether or not you should read this article, which is : the following is more suitable for the BROAD-MINDED and the WISE. Others are kindly advised to pass!

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          John,

          “Believe nothing, in the faith of traditions,
          even though, they have been held in honor,
          for many generations, and in diverse places.

          Do not believe, a thing, because many people speak of it.
          Do not believe, in the faith, of the sages of the past.
          Do not believe, what you yourself have imagined,
          persuading yourself, that a God inspires you.

          Believe nothing, on the sole authority, of your masters and priests.
          After examination, believe what you yourself, have tested
          and found, to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.” The Buddha

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        Adam Mahawamsa is an epic poem in the Pali language. It is not about Buddha Dhamma as many a fool like you have been suckered into believe by unlearned writers like Shamini.

        If you want to learn the essence of Buddha Dhamma then you should read Visuddhimagga which was written by Buddhagosha in Maha Vihara, Anuradhapura in the 5th century which is freely available through www. Most learned Sinhala Buddhists have a copy of it. I doubt Shamini can understand it.

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          You have not read Sharminis word of caution before deciding whether or not you should read this article, which is : the following is more suitable for the BROAD-MINDED and the WISE. Others are kindly advised to pass!

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          Banda,

          “Believe nothing, in the faith of traditions,
          even though, they have been held in honor,
          for many generations, and in diverse places.

          Do not believe, a thing, because many people speak of it.
          Do not believe, in the faith, of the sages of the past.
          Do not believe, what you yourself have imagined,
          persuading yourself, that a God inspires you.

          Believe nothing, on the sole authority, of your masters and priests.
          After examination, believe what you yourself, have tested
          and found, to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.” The Buddha

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          Hallo Bando, my dear backstabbing Kandyan buddy.

          You have started popping out from under your wife’s ‘osariya’ again.

          Better get back under, before she gives you a thundering kick up your backside.

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        Ms. Shamani Serasingha and Adam

        Here are Amarasiri’s comments on the write up below by Shaymon Jayasinghe and comments by Merrill.

        https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/in-defence-of-the-non-religious/

        “I am not suggesting that all religious followers are blindfolded and naïve characters. There are many who do possess their crap-detectors but who wouldn’t leave the faith of their birth for reasons of social comfort and peace or even as habit. Some of the latter may accept some of the teachings but not all. There are also the plain hypocrites who are mere traders in the religion and employ religion for their personal gain in power or profit. The latter are religious predators that prey on populations.”
        They are called Actors, or Myth followers.

        Merril, you said:

        ” Time again I have said and reported in Sri Lanka Politician like SWRD Bandaranaike, brought about the division of the nation because he wanted to be in power by trying to create a Sinhalese nation by…”

        Amarasiris’s comments:

        Let’s look at SWRD.( From Book by Yasmine Goonaratne- Realtive Merits,St. Martins Press, New York, page 3). How the Myths were changed.

        1. South Indian Hindu,Nayaka Pandaram (Nirvana, Rebirth, Sansara)
        2. Kandyan Buddhist, Pandara Nayaka, Bandara Nayake(Nirvana, Sansara, Rebirth)
        3. Catholic, Dias ( Hell, Limbo, Purgatory, Heaven,Saints, Indulgences)
        4. Dutch Protestant Solomon(Hell, Heaven )
        5. Anglican, West Ridgeway (Hell, Heaven )
        6. Buddhist, (Nirvana, Sansara, Rebirth)
        7. Mahanama Racist Monk Buddhism (Racism, Nirvana, Sansara, Rebirth)

        How his family and he changed their MYTHS with the times, and what an opportunist politician he was, even though he was for the common man. If you removed his racism or rather pandering to the Mahanama Myth following Buddhist Monks, he would have been a great Prime Minister. Unfortunately, those who live by the sword and racism, die by the sword and racism. Include Prabakaran as well.

        They are in Lanka, Burma, Iran. Saudi Arabia, Christian World etc.
        1. JHU, Jatika Harak Urumaya
        2. BBS
        3. Sinhala Ravaya
        4. Monk Mahanama Myths and Racism
        5. Monks
        6. Priests
        7. Mullahs

        The Politicians etc.

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        BBS and JHU are writing another History. Wait for it!

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        Adam has raised a very important point by saying “the mahavamsa now has written 3 chapters about the Rajapakse royal family, but has no mention of Fonseka and has only one paragraph about Chandrika”.

        This is exactly how the Mahavamsa was written right from its beginning. It was written according to the king’s whimps and fancies. What should be written and what should not be written was the discretion of the Buddhist king who ruled and who patronized the Mahavihara monks. What we see today is a very good example of what happened in the past.

        The Mahavamsa was written not as a history of Sri Lanka (or Sinhalese) but as a chronicle of that famous Theravada Buddhist Institution known as the Mahavihara. The original Mahavamsa is a historical poem written in Pali by a Buddhist Monk named Mahanama (an uncle of King Dhatusena) in the fifth century AD. It covers a period starting from the arrival of Vijaya (543 BC) to the time of Mahasena’s rule (334-361 BC). His aim was to glorify the Buddhist kings of the Anuradhapura kingdom who patronized this institution. It chronicles some of the main events in the kingdom of these patrons, the domain they controlled from Anuradhapura.

        The Mahavamsa can never be considered as the history of the entire island called Sri Lanka.

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      Sharmaine,
      I know it is not fair to blame “Rev. Piyadassi” … But I am wondering if this Rev Piyadassi and his kind (wise people) had more leadership qualities, what would be Sinhalese Buddhist Siri Lanka today? We all would be sitting together with monks but with real respect and always learning something new through their wisdom, instead of sitting/kneeling on the floor for hours and listening to their old stories with the same contents and wasting our time.
      Anura

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        “Then, there are also those who believe, that the Mahawamsa was authored, by the Buddha himself!” Yes Sharmini,this is unbelievable, but I know people who even believe that the Prince Siddhartha Gautama was born in Sri Lanka.

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      Thanks Sharmaine and CT for an interesting and timely article with many facts. What a courage you have Sharmaine! You have put your hand inside the snake pit of SL’s politics/religion for the good of the people (especially the ignorant Buddhists).

      Educating the ignorant may be easy but educating the so called “educated” is a very difficult task. Recently, I met a Diplomat from Sri Lanka at a dinner and the discussion turned to history. Even he appeared to believe that Sri Lanka is a blessed country because Buddha visited Sri Lanka thrice and that too flying. If such “educated” people still believe in Mahavamsa fairy tales such as Buddha made three magical trips to Sri Lanka, how can we expect anything better from the ordinary?

      However, I know some educated Buddhist priests who do not believe the above, when I asked one of them, he said the laypersons strongly believed it for many centuries and if you try to change their mindset they will hang you. We have no choice but let the people believe what they believe.

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        Nimal, Agree with you. I strongly recommend that Sharmini leaves this subject alone. There are some things we cannot change and it is futile for us to keep trying. It is better to seek the change in ourselves and leave the rest of the world to themselves.

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          Wickramasiri:- – “There are some things we cannot change and it is futile for us to keep trying”
          What if the Buddha thought the same Way as you do? We would not now have the Blessing of His Dhamma to Guide Us! In fact he was strongly tempted to keep it to himself until he met his former Companions, the five Hermits, Who would be able to Understand.

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        please enlighten about the facts

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          Sharmini has very clearly and beautifully enlightend the facts, please read it about 10 times until your pea brain can grasp it. I am sure you know that all these are true but simply denying it just for the sake of saying something. Read it over and over until you get something and then sit in a corner and think (if you have the capacity).

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            I read it and you can read my argument inthis very thread.
            1. She wantsto talk about mahavamsa and how it is an insult to buddha
            2. first mahavamsa doesnt talk about buddhism or any dhamma at all. It is a history book. So how can whatever mentioned in mahawama relates to buddhism?
            3. She talks about buddhist rituals that has no connection to mahavamsa
            4. Insuting religous rituals and places of worship is violation of religous freedom. Would ct publish tomorow if i write about hilarious stories of hindu gods, laughing at cow worship, lingam worship , mohammed flying to moon, muslim rituals, how jesus is a hoax?
            5 and talk about her tormenting experiences as a childaces o

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              Sach,

              “Believe nothing, in the faith of traditions,
              even though, they have been held in honor,
              for many generations, and in diverse places.

              Do not believe, a thing, because many people speak of it.
              Do not believe, in the faith, of the sages of the past.
              Do not believe, what you yourself have imagined,
              persuading yourself, that a God inspires you.

              Believe nothing, on the sole authority, of your masters and priests.
              After examination, believe what you yourself, have tested
              and found, to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.” The Buddha

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                So do you?

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              “Would ct publish tomorow if i write about hilarious stories of hindu gods, laughing at cow worship, lingam worship , mohammed flying to moon, muslim rituals, how jesus is a hoax? “

              Start “Sach Telegraph”

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        [Edited out]

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      Ms. Shamani Serasinghe,

      “So, according to Sinhala/Mahavamsa-Buddhism, even a murderer, rapist, child molester, and others as such, could circumvent their bad ‘karma’ and be reborn in ‘heaven’, courtesy alms and gifts, offered to Buddhist monks.”

      Sinhala Buddhist Indulgences….. like the Catholic Indulgences…. which Martin Luther fought from 1517…. to start the Protestant Reformation and the age of reason….

      Sinhala Mahanama Buddhism needs Martin Luthers….. Where can we find them…..in this 21st centurty of Reason and the Age of instant communications and the Internet…. thanks to the Americans

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        Religions need change only if it bombs people. So buddhism isnt the one in need of it

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          You are right. But your precious Mahavamsa changed Buddhism in Sri Lanka. So better start practicing what you preach.

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            You are talking as if mahawamsa was brought here just a decade or so ago, probably by the Rajapakses.

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            how does a history book change a religion

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              It has, to a great extent. Due to the influence of the Mahavamsa, a Buddhist Bikkhu is at liberty to engage in politics as we see today. Buddha was not a politician and he never preached politics, his deciples/monks are not supposed to even preach politics but they are practising it. If you had read the Mahavamsa, you will know how it influences the monks to engage in politics.

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                Buddhist monks in SL will engage in politics even if Mahawamsa is not there. Because it is a democratic right of them. Mahawamsa just record history. History gives you knowledge only people who want to stay in dark would insult a history book.

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                  Now you are saying Sinhala-Buddhism is a political religion where monks can engage in politics. In other words, Sinhala-Buddhism can have anti-Buddhist practises that the Buddha never preached.

                  I am enjoying your JOKES, please continue to entertain us with your inconsistant contradicting arguments.

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                    Monks can engage in politics because they are citizens in this country and have the democratic right. It doesnt go along with buddshim but still it cannot be taken off from them. It is against democracy. It has nothing to do with Mahawamsa.

                    And what anti buddhist practices? How is offering flowers, lighting lamps and even Dalada Perahera be anti buddhist? All these things are NOT mentioned in mahavamsa. If you cant understand let me tell you in a simple manner.

                    1. offering flowers, lighting lamps are not anti buddhist and not even mentioned in mahawamsa.
                    2. I dont say Mahavamsa is above criticism. mahavamsa can be critiqued based on history.
                    3. If buddhists practice rituals that is totally a private matter. And it has no connection to Mahawamsa.

                    This is just an arragant rant of a silly woman.

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                    Prasad,

                    There is Buddhism and there are the Sinhalese.
                    Both are separate entities.

                    There is no such Religion called Sinhala Buddhism.

                    Sharmini’s Essay contains the Good, the Bad and the Ugly but she studiously avoids Defending what she has written.

                    This points to one thing. She cannot substantiate what she says and withstand the criticism of her peers.

                    There are Truths sprinkled within a mass of untruths and slander.

                    For example she says the Buddha walked out of his mothers womb. Can you see what that implies? And that came from the pen of a woman who says she was taught Buddhism by the scholar monk Ven Piyadassi.

                    Astonishing.

                    If you did not get Sharmini’s implied meaning please read the following

                    https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/mahavamsa-an-insult-to-the-buddha/#comment-824840

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                      Shamini [Edited out]

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                      In Sri Lanka, both Sinhala & Buddhist are yoked together like Tweedle-Dum and Tweedle-Dee and Mahavamsa is the culprit.

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          You have not read Sharminis word of caution before deciding whether or not you should read this article, which is : the following is more suitable for the BROAD-MINDED and the WISE. Others are kindly advised to pass!

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            In other words Randy, as the Buddha taught long ago – “Those with Little Dust in their Eyes”!

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        ” Unlike so many, we do not peddle the word of God for profit:

        On the contrary, in Christ we speak before God with

        sincerity.”

        2.Corinthians.2.17. Holy Bible.

        Jesus Christ has PAID for the sins of all mankind with His

        Holy Blood.

        Almighty God cannot be bribed by indulgences, poojas, lighting

        of candles, offerings of money and such..

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      Mahavamsa is the greatest Epic Poem written in Pali in Sri Lanka. It is a product of the minds of the scholarly monks who wrote the Pali chronicles. As Sharmaine has rightly mentioned, most of the mythical/supernatural stories and legends in the Mahavamsa were derived either from the Jataka Tales or from the Indian Epics and Puranas written in Sanskrit. For example, stories with names such as Pandu, Vasudeva , Simhala, Sinhala, Yaksha, Naga, Deva,, Raksaha, Lanka, etc are found in the Indian epics Mahabaratha, Bhagavad Gita, Ramayana, etc. I am sure the scholarly monks of the Mahavihara must have been very fluent in Sanskrit and very thorough with the Indian Epics, Puranas and the Jatakas and must have adopted all these stories (including the names) from them. The terms Lanka, Sinhala, Yakksha, Naga, etc are all copied from the Indian epics by the scholarly monks of the Mahavihara in the 4th Century AD. With the patronage of the Buddhist Kings, it is the Mahavihara monks who must have assimilated all the Buddhists from many different tribes together and called them Sihala (followers of Mythical Vijaya). To date, no archaeological evidence has been found to prove Vijaya’s arrival or existence. I feel that almost all the scholars who have analyzed the Mahavamsa had no much knowledge about Mahabaratha, Ramayana, Bagawath Gita, etc. The early chapters of the Mahavamsa have a lot in common with these Indian epics. It looks like to create a Sinhala society these scholarly monks have imagined/visualized a mass ‘Aryan migration’ from North India (Vijay story) during the proto-historic period. In reality, there is no objective evidence of an Aryan migration from North India; the ethnic structure in Sri Lanka (Sinhalese, Tamils, and Muslims/Moors) is quite South Indian with close affinities to Kerala, Tamil Nadu, Andara and Orrisa. Archeological and Genealogical discoveries in Sri Lanka using modern technology show that not only the Flora and Fauna but the people of South India and Sri Lanka are of the same stock (biologically) and culturally to a certain extent even though the major language/religion in Sri Lanka is much closer to North Indian. It is high time that some genuine (un-biased and non-political) Scholars engage in analyzing the Mahavamsa with respect to the Indian epics and highlight the similarities to understand the actual nature of our past.

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        which indian epics talk about sinhala people? If you want to talk about something be knowledgeable about it.
        1. The historical details given in mahawamsa are proven by the stone inscrptions. The evidences for the mahawamsa lies in sri lanka and india as well.

        2. The genetical studies of the sinhala people has found that they are 50% bengali. That is even after 2000 years and after constant migration of south indians.
        3. The ancient sinhala language has many similariteis with the ancient pakrit language spoken in india.

        4. Scholars in history, not news anchors consider mahawamsa to be fairly reliablewhi

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          Sach

          Everybody on this forum knows very well that you are a complete idiot. Please do not expose it even further to prove that you are an imbecile. If you still do not know that you are a total ignorant, please listen to what others say about you in this forum.

          All what you have written above is nothing but rubbish. Do you know anything about the Indian epics???

          If you do not know, please keep your stupid mouth shut. Anyways, let me enlighten you a little about what is said in the Mahabaratha about Sinhala.

          There was NO Sinhala in Sri Lanka until the Mahavihara monks mentioned it for the very first time in the 5th/6th century AD Pali chronicles, in order to create the Sinhala identity (to sustain Buddhism in Lanka) the term Sinhala may have been adopted from the Indian epic Mahabharata which predates the Mahavansa by many centuries. The Mahabharata talks of Sinhalas as the barbarous mlecchas, in its Book 1, Chapter 177, in Book 2, Chapter 33 & 51, and in Book 7, Chapter 20. However, the Sinhalas mentioned in the Mahabharata is totally different from the Sinhalas that the Mahavihara monks created (Lion myth) in the 5th century AD.

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            [Edited out]

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              This guy Kirthi commenting on this thread is one Kirthi Jayasekera.

              Early this year, when the BBS was playing havoc against Muslims & Christians, Sharmini wrote several articles to CT, in defense of those being attacked.

              Kirthi has managed to get hold of Sharmini’s email address and started stalking her with threatening emails.

              I’m told, that Sharmini has saved all those emails sent by Kirthi and she has advised those close to her, that in the event she disappears or meets with a fatal “accident”, this guy Kirthi Jayasekera, who appears to be demented, must be considered a prime suspect.

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                [Edited out] I m not scared of your threatening comments, if Sharmani can write nonsense, I have a right to contest it. Yes I wrote to her to inquire in to some allegations made by her about Buddhists, I don’t think it was a violation or a threat to her life since the email address was on the web for anyone to contact her, as she is a journalist. This attempt to expose my name and identity to the forum , I may ask is in line with your ethics of good journalism. I notice you edit even a very small part that the CT thinks violates some body’s personality. So you have discarded those norms in my case. [Edited out]

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                  Kerthi Jayasekara jumps out of the bag, exposing himself.

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                    You can jump too

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                  Kirthi Jayasekera,

                  Yes you have a right to contest it, but NOT by threatening Sharmini with death and using such foul language on her. I managed to get hold of those emails from her, so I know exactly what you have written.

                  You are obviously an uncouth bum from the gutter and a coward, to threaten a lady like that.

                  You are questioning the CT editor about ethics, why don’t you yourself practice good ethics, if you know how to, before questioning others about ethics.

                  There is only one way to deal with scum bags like you, and that is at your own level.

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            If i am an idiot and what i say is foolish why do you alwaya throw insults without counter arguing? Are my points extremely difficult to ebunk for other? Only those without a poit throw insult like javi and u.
            I will check on mahabarata. But what you say only debunks saman’s view. Between mahabarata is written very much later though hindus say otherwise.
            If mahabarata say so does it make tamils suffer from mahabarata mentality

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              Sach

              What Saman Fernando says is absolutely correct. The scholarly monks of the Mahavihara such as Ven. Mahanama has picked up the terms Lanka, Sinhala, Pandu, Vasudeva, Yaksha, Naga, Deva, Raksaha,etc from the Indian epics Mahabaratha, and Ramayana to create his own story book called Mahavamsa.

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                if it is a story book, why do historians use it to dig history? Without mahawamsa indian history would be incomplete. The history behind all the stupas, tanks would be unknown. Only the ones who want to spread lies will hate mahawamsa. i havent read mahabarata so cant comment on it. So do u think all the history in mahawamsa is from mahaba?

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                  Sach
                  Almost all your arguments on this forum sounds like a nine years old kids. It may take a very long time for you to grow up so that you can argue like a normal grown up person. Except a very few Sinhala biased historians and archeologists, none others dig history from the Mahavamsa because the epigraphic records from the stone inscriptions are more accurate. The stories in the beginning chapters of the Mahavamsa are very similar to the Indian epics such as the Mahabaratha, Ramayana, Bagawath Geetha and the Jathakas. I am sure the 5th CAD Mahavihara monks of Anuradapura were experts in the Sanskrit language and very thorough in the 3000 years old Indian epics. The terms Lanka, Sinhala, etc were never known in SL (not found in any inscriptions) until the 5th CAD Mahavihara monks wrote the chronicles but it was there in the ancient Indian epics.
                  You have a lot to learn, do your homework before poking your mouth everywhere and exposing yourself as a laughing stock and a joker.

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                    Mahavamsa is an important history book that is accepted by all veteran historians. An ignorant fool who doesnt even know basic buddhism would not know the value of it. Read my comments fool, I said the mahavamsa incidents after Asoka’s time are considered fairly reliable. The initial stories are the ones that are mythical.

                    Stone inscriptions PROVE many claims by Mahavamsa. That is the same for Asoka’s history. If not for Mahawamsa nothing important about Asoka would be known. Just a few stone inscriptions dont tell a whole story. If not for Mahavamsa the history behind Dagabs in SL, tanks and all monasteries would be a mystrey.

                    Mahavamsa reocorded history of SL and a part of Indian history. Please get educated on it before displaying your stupidity and ignorance.

                    Anything written in 5AD would be a source of history. No one can undermine it.

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                      Sach, what stupid you prove to be by claiming that if not for Mahavamsa,Ashoka history would be unknown to world. Why did you limit your ignorance restricting to the mention of Ashoka, you should have told even mauryan kingdom itself would have been unknown to whole world.

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                      @manisekaran,

                      How mahavamsa was instrumental in digging India’s history and that of Asoka is an accpeted fact. I am not surprised for you not knowing that. The first time Asoka was recognised was in Mahawamsa it was based on Mahawamsa that archelogical research was done in India and the sayings in Mahawamsa very much tallied with what was found there and what was mentioned in stone inscriptions. How mahavamsa was instrumental has been a fact acknowledged by all knowledgable historians, your lack of knowledge is understandable

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                  The myth about the origin of the Sinhala Tribe
                  *Mahabharata, Book 1, Chapter 177

                  When the sage Vasistha was attacked by king Viswamitra’s army, Vasistha’s cow, Kamadehnu, brought forth from her tail, an army of Pallavas, and from her udders, an army of Dravidas and Sakas; and from her womb, an army of Yavanas, and from her dung, an army of Savaras; and from her urine, an army of Kanchis; and from her sides, an army of Savaras. And from the froth of her mouth came out hosts of Paundras and Kiratas, Yavanas and Sinhalas, and the barbarous tribes of Khasas and Chivukas and Pulindas and Chinas and Hunas with Keralas,and numerous other Mlechchhas.
                  In the ancient Indian literature, cow is a symbol of earth or land. Thus the myth mentioned above simply means that, these tribes gathered for the protection of sage Vasistha’s land, against the army of king Viswamitra.

                  Kings present in Yudhisthira’s Rajasuya Sacrifice
                  *Mahabharata, Book 2, Chapter 33

                  King Bhagadatta of Pragjyotisha accompanied by all Mlechcha tribes inhabiting the marshy regions on the sea-shore; and many mountain kings, and king Vrihadvala; and Vasudeva the king of the Paundrayas, and the kings of Vanga and Kalinga; and Akastha and Kuntala and the kings of the Malavas and the Andhrakas; and the Dravidas and the Singhalas and the king of Kashmira, and king Kuntibhoja of great energy and king Gauravahana, and all the other heroic kings of Valhika; and Virata with his two sons, and Mavella endued with great might; and various kings and princes ruling in various countries; and, king Sisupala accompanied by his son, all of them came to the (Rajasuya) sacrifice of Yudhisthira.

                  *Mahabharata, Book 2, Chapter 51
                  The Kings of Chola and Pandya, brought numberless jars of gold filled with fragrant sandal juice from the hills of Malaya, and loads of sandal and aloe wood from the Dardduras hills, and many gems of great brilliancy and fine cloths inlaid with gold. The king of the Singhalas gave those best of sea-born gems called the lapis lazuli, and heaps of pearls also, and hundreds of coverlets for elephants.

                  *Mahabharata, Book 3, Chapter 51
                  Vasudeva Krishna to Yudhisthira
                  All kings, even those of the Vangas and Angas and Paundras and Odras and Cholas and Dravidas and Andhakas, and the chiefs of many islands and countries on the seaboard as also of frontier states, including the rulers of the Sinhalas, the barbarous mlecchas, the natives of Lanka, and all the kings of the West by hundreds, and all the chiefs of the sea-coast, and the kings of the Pahlavas and the Daradas and the various tribes of the Kiratas and Yavanas and Sakras and the Harahunas and Chinas and Tukharas and the Sindhavas and the Jagudas and the Ramathas and the Mundas and the inhabitants of the kingdom of women and the Tanganas and the Kekayas and the Malavas and the inhabitants of Kasmira, were present in obedience to your invitation, performing various offices (during Yudhisthira’s Rajasuya Sacrifice). They were fighters.

                  Sinhalas in Kurukshetra War
                  *Mahabharata, Book 7, Chapter 20
                  The Kalingas, the Sinhalas, the Easterners, the Sudras, the Abhiras, the Daserakas, the Sakas, the Yavanas, the Kambojas, the Hangsapadas, the Surasenas, the Daradas, the Madras, and the Kalikeyas, with hundreds and thousands of elephants, steeds, chariots, and foot-soldiers were stationed at the neck of Drona’s Garuda Military Formation.

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            Prasad,

            You say “There was NO Sinhala in Sri Lanka until the Mahavihara monks mentioned it for the very first time in the 5th/6th century AD Pali chronicles, in order to create the Sinhala identity (to sustain Buddhism in Lanka) the term Sinhala may have been adopted from the Indian epic Mahabharata which predates the Mahavansa by many centuries.”

            Was the Sinhala Language borrowed from the Mahabaratha?
            Was the Sinhala Language invented in the 5/6 century AD along with the purported invention of the Sinhala identity?

            The Sinhala identity is the Sinhala Language not anything else.
            It is unique to Sri Lanka and not found anywhere else in the world.

            Sharmini’s essay contains the Good, the Bad and the Ugly all in one.
            She uses some truths to weave a much larger web of lies.

            I am in complete agreement with Sharmani in some matters but find she uses innuendo to and subterfuge to sneak in crass Untruths.

            For example she says the Buddha walked out of the Mothers womb.

            Any Buddhist would know that is nowhere close to what is written in Buddhist texts on that matter. In this scientific age No Educated Buddhist will believe an incredulous claim that a baby walked and talked while lotuses bloomed underneath. This is literature, with embellishments added by the writers. Such literature is common throughout the world. Indian literature is overflowing with such embellishments. The Buddha did not say anything about such an event during his birth.

            First of all ANY knowledgeable Buddhist would know that the Baby Siddhartha was not a Buddha. He was simply the son of a King. Buddhist philosophy never existed at that time.

            Secondly for a baby to walk out of the Womb the birth canal and it’s “Exit” should be able to accommodate an erect baby.

            The Birth canal and the exit in a normal woman is able to accommodate the Head and shoulders exiting head first and feet last. But if as Sharmini states the baby walked out of the womb Sharmini must be Hallucinating. I was shocked to see such crass stupidity coming out of the pen of a woman able to write so well.

            Sharmini does not defend her essays and has not responded to a single comment on this one. When someone writes rubbish it becomes indefensible, hence the silence.

            You can read a more detailed analysis of her essay here.

            https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/mahavamsa-an-insult-to-the-buddha/#comment-824840

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              There is no mention of the word Sinhala or Sinhala ethnicity in the thousand odd short inscriptions that come to us from the early historic period. On the contrary, a vast majority of the host of clan names and titles that we come across in these inscriptions only show affinities with the clans of the ancient Tamil country (Dr. Sudharshan Seneviratne).

              A definable Sinhala identity along with its associated myths appear for the very first time only in the Pali chronicles, dateable to 5th century CE. Even such a literature, which projects Tamils as invaders, could not help linking the Pandyas of southern Tamil country in the genesis of Sinhalese in Sri Lanka.

              For that matter, late Tamil and Malayalee migrants from South India can be found more among the Sinhalese, especially among their elite, as was with the case of the ancestors of the Bandaranayake and Jayawardane families (James T. Rutnam).

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                At least Sinhala people have historical claims in SL what does Tamils have in SL other than insulting the evidence Sinhalese has. There was no tamil country in SL, it is just that Sinhalese has tamil roots as well.

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                  “There was no tamil country in SL, it is just that Sinhalese has tamil roots as well.”

                  How did the Sinhalese get Tamil roots?

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                  Now you have spilt the beans and exposed your Sinhala Buddhist chauvinistic credentials! The Sinhala people and the Sinhala language are there as testament to the history of the Tamils in Sri Lanka. If you do not understand as to what I have said; you need to take some history lessons may be Off the Cuff can help!

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          sach
          “The genetical studies of the sinhala people has found that they are 50% bengali. That is even after 2000 years and after constant migration of south indians”

          please leave the subjects you don’t know or don’t want to know.
          Genetic structure is probably similar between sinhalese and Tamils.

          http://sbarrkum.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/sinhalese-and-tamil-dna-admixture.html

          Mitochondrial DNA history of Sri Lankan ethnic people: their relations within the island and with the Indian subcontinental populations

          Lanka Ranaweera, Supannee Kaewsutthi, Aung Win Tun, Hathaichanoke Boonyarit, Samerchai Poolsuwan and Patcharee Lertrit
          Journal of Human Genetics , (7 November 2013) | doi:10.1038/jhg.2013.112

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            Ken a bit curious,

            Why do you think its Bengali because it is fashionable??
            Why not Bihari (Patna) and all that yak yak Pali?? Or is it that it’s a full scale robbery of Brahmin Sanskrit like Hitler to say – yeah man the dead Aryan/Iranian that came in a coal train??

            They can forget being related to any kings ChandraGupta was Rajput like Mittal. Schedule caste buddhist??

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              Thanks for the link. I was able to check it out. I dont understand bio stuff.

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            Check it again yourself, the sample is TWO sinhalese.
            I have never ever rejected the south indian component in Sinhalese, which is very much apparent. What it means is the bengali/bihari or what ever component is still there even after an absorption of so much south indians into Sinhala society. It doesnt make sinhalese, bengali, but it gives evidences to a mass immigration from that part of india to SL years before.

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              Sach
              Do not criticise without reading both references I gave. Second reference is available as an abstract (shortened form) which is a detailed genetic study. Once I get hold of the full text version, I will reply to the enlightened readers for eg Javi
              Ken

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                I read it, still the sample is two ne. Between anything said by anyone who concern Javi as enlightened need to be taken with several sacks of salt.

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                ken robert

                Thanks for the link, for the benefit of fellow readers I am copying the abstract below:

                Located only a short distance off the southernmost shore of the Greater Indian subcontinent, the island of Sri Lanka has long been inhabited by various ethnic populations. Mainly comprising the Vedda, Sinhalese (Up- and Low-country) and Tamil (Sri Lankan and Indian); their history of settlements on the island and the biological relationships among them have remained obscure. It has been hypothesized that the Vedda was probably the earliest inhabitants of the area, followed by Sinhalese and Tamil from the Indian mainland. This study, in which 271 individuals, representing the Sri Lankan ethnic populations mentioned, were typed for their mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) hypervariable segment 1 (HVS-1) and part of hypervariable segment 2 (HVS-2), provides implications for their settlement history on the island. From the phylogenetic, principal coordinate and analysis of molecular variance results, the Vedda occupied a position separated from all other ethnic people of the island, who formed relatively close affiliations among themselves, suggesting a separate origin of the former. The haplotypes and analysis of molecular variance revealed that Vedda people’s mitochondrial sequences are more related to the Sinhalese and Sri Lankan Tamils’ than the Indian Tamils’ sequences. MtDNA haplogroup analysis revealed that several West Eurasian haplogroups as well as Indian-specific mtDNA clades were found amongst the Sri Lankan populations. Through a comparison with the mtDNA HVS-1 and part of HVS-2 of Indian database, both Tamils and Sinhalese clusters were affiliated with Indian subcontinent populations than Vedda people who are believed to be the native population of the island of Sri Lanka.

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        I agree with you but the Sinhala founding by Vijaya and his followers is believable because Sinhala is a North Indian language, even while South India is Dravidian. So logic would say that there was a groups of Indians from the North that settled in Lanka.

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          Vijaya didnt. Sinhala was a community evolved in SL along with SL

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            sach

            I thought you were making somesense, now what you have written “Vijaya didnt. Sinhala was a community evolved in SL along with SL” is plain nonsense.

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              i know that is something you guys hate to accept. sinhala preople evolved in sl. Their cuture evolved in sl. Their language evolved in sl. All sinhala books are written in sl. Sinhala custom evolved in sl. Show me a single sinhalese from india. Then we can question whether sinhala evolved in sl or not. How much you people hate to admit. Sinhala is the product of sl

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            Sach

            Why are you continuing to contradict yourself? There is no consistency in your arguments. You are just arguing for the situation, most of the time contradicting what you have already said. You yourself is exposing your dishonesty. You must be a con man or a fraud.

            You kept on praising the Mahavamsa but at the same time denying what is said in the Mahavamsa.
            It is said in MAHAVAMSA CHAPTER VII – THE CONSECRATING OF VIJAYA,
            “But the king Sihabahu, since he had slain the lion (was called) Sihala and, by reason of the ties between him and them, all those (followers of VIJAYA) were also (called) Sihala”.
            How can you deny the Mahavamsa by saying Sihala evolved in SL? Sihabahu and his people were known as Sihala. Today there is no Sinhala in India but 3000 years ago there would have been a community called Sinhala in India. Even the 3000 odd years old Mahabaratha talks of a community called Sinhala.

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              “Sihabahu and his people were known as Sihala. “

              This is a new thing. The historians havent really found out whether there really existed a king called Sinhabahu. They consider him as a myth. So how can you say Sinhabahu is sihala?

              Sinhala lanugage evolution happened in SL. That is recorded in stone inscriptions to ola leaves.

              And read my comments again and again. I said mahavamsa after incidents in Asoka period are considered as fairly reliable.

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                You are prasing the Mahavamsa as the true history at many places but here you are calling it a MYTH. LOL

                You are not consistant, every comment you make here contradicts the oother.

                Why don’t you become a commedian instead of wasting your time here. You seem to have a good talent in becoming a JOKER.

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                  Aney fool, just read comments carefully. I think you have a problem with english comprehension.

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              James,

              Lanka was invaded several times and thats a fact.
              Archaeological Evidence points to Balangoda Man as the earliest inhabitant 34,000 years ago. Anyone who is not a descendant of the Balangoda man is an invader. Vijaya is no exception.

              The Sinhalese are a product of Lanka. They are not found anywhere else. They are not Portuguese. They are not, Dutch. They are not Kafirs. They are not English. They are not Tamil. They are not Moor. They are not Veddah. But they are obviously a mixture of several races who lived in Lanka as indigenes and invaders. Since the Sinhalese existed before the westerners arrived, Western contribution to the Sinhalese genome would be non-existent but India and the East would have definitely contributed though no one is sure about the composition.

              There is one thing that everyone is sure about. The one thing that identifies the Sinhalese. It’s not Religion but it is the Sinhala Language that is found nowhere else but in Sri Lanka (BTW Sinhala has a close relationship to Maldivian Dhivehi). This does not mean that others who are born and bred in Lanka and holds Sri Lankan nationality are not children of Lanka. But it means that the Sinhalese did not invade Sri Lanka. They are the product of Sri Lanka.

              More detail here https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/mahavamsa-an-insult-to-the-buddha/#comment-824840

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                Please read your own history book Mahavamsa. It says the Sinhalese are a product of India and NOT Sri Lanka. The Sinhala language is an Indo-Aryan Language (mixture of several Indian languages), NOT a Sri Lankan language.

                Too bad you do not even understand the basic principles of anthropology, there had been many civilizations in Sri Lanka (Eg. Balangoda man), most of them disappeared over time, the last of them were the so-called ‘yakkas’ (Nagas were migrants from India) and their remnants are the Veddas. These civilizations have nothing to do with the present civilization in the Island. The Sinhalese, Tamil, Muslims, and others (except Veddas) have their ancestry either in India or elsewhere. The Sinhalese are also immigrants to the island. Just because today there is nobody called Sinhalese in India, that does not mean that they never existed in India. Even the Mahabaratha talks about a Sinhala tribe.

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                  Where does it mahavamsa says sinhala is the product of india? and where does mahavansa say sinhala is an indo aryan language. I am quite sure mahanama thera wouldnt have known what Indo Aryan is.

                  Between Sinhala language and Veddha language has many common words and sinhala people have genetic connection with Veddhas.

                  Between isnt Mahavamsa a useless mythical book, so why do you seek evidence from it?

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            Do you also accept that the SL Tamils evolved in Sri Lanka?

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              Dear BI,

              Of Course.

              Where else could they have evolved?

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              Sl tamils are actually Sinhalese, they became Tamils after tamil invasions and constant migration from TN. North of SL was under chola rule for 500 years so such an effect is understandable

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                Sachily,

                You have got it all upside down.

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                Such,

                Can you explain to me as to why the Sinhala genetic analysis shows 50% Tamils? How would you reconcile your statement with this established fact?

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      Mahavamsa Myth very beautifully exposed. Great article, one of the best I have read after many years. Shamani Serasingha puts it in the layman’s language that even a child can understand the actual facts. From her article it is very clear that the Buddhism practised by the Sinhalese is light years behind the true Buddhism. Due to absolute ignorance the Sinhala-Buddhists are following rituals that the Buddha has discarded. The most interesting part is,Shamani is narating her own real life experience. She is not only beautiful but bold as well and extremely interligent. Please keep up your good work madam, you are really Great.

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        what is the connection between buddhist rituals and Mahavamsa? Is that relevant to all the other rituals different religions practice?

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        Dear Suresh,

        “Shamani Serasingha puts it in the layman’s language that even a child can understand the actual facts.”

        Just like a good Ventriloquist makes the children believe the dummy on the Ventriloquists lap is doing all the talking!

        Ask yourself who these Nameless Faceless “Academically Educated and supposedly intelligent Sinhala Buddhists falling short on Wisdom” visiting Mosques for solace are? No factual evidence is forthcoming, vituperative attacks pour down in a torrent, instead of the elusive evidence. The writer herself is silent.

        They cannot be named because they don’t exist. Hence they are not facts but the Dummy on the Ventriloquist’s Lap.

        A web of lies with a sprinkling of truths is spun and attributed to this Faceless and Nameless “Academically Educated and supposedly intelligent Sinhala Buddhists falling short on Wisdom”. But what is not realised is that the voice behind that Dummy is that of a clever but cunning Lady.

        But despite these Gaping holes in her argument the simple minded and others with an agenda jumps on the bandwagon.

        “The Ceylon Tamils had no written document on the lines of the Mahavamsa to authenticate their singular and separate historical authority in Sri Lanka, a fact which Ceylon Tamil communalists found very irksome” (Communal Politics under the Donoughmore Constitution, Tissara Publishers, page 131 by the British historian Dr. Jane Russell).

        The Dutugamunu-Elara story was used by “Ceylon Tamil agitators as historical justification for the sense of grievance which they were so carefully nursing, and it was used to suggest that Sinhalese perfidy in the name of Sinhalese Buddhism would be the accepted practice in the future as well as in the past” (Russell, page 154).

        G.G. Ponnambalam in the 1930’s said similar things targeting the Mahavamsa. The result was the First Sinhala and Tamil Riot of the twentieth century in 1939.

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          Off the cuff

          What kind of an idiot are you? Sounds like a complete idiot to me.
          You do not even understand very simple things. Journalists follow a certain Protocol. It is unethical to disclose the names of such people in public. Even the actual names of those who engage in criminal activities are sometimes not disclosed.

          Are you asking Shamani to disclose the names of “Academically Educated and supposedly intelligent Sinhala Buddhists falling short on Wisdom”. There are tens of thousands in Sri Lanka and abroad. Even if she wants to reveal their names, how and where do you expect her to list them?

          I was living in several Middle East countries in the past, I knew many Sinhala-Buddhist families who pray to “Allah Deiyo” (Allah God) in addition to many other Deiyo (Gods) for help when they have problems but call themselves Sinhala-Buddhists. When I asked them why, some of them said, in this part of the world, “Allah Deiyo” is the most powerful and you feel relieved when you pray to “Allah Deiyo”. I know a few Sinhala Buddhist men who stand outside the Mosques and pray silently to “Allah Deiyo” because, as a non-Muslim they are not allowed inside the mosque. These people are not interested in converting to Islam, they want to remain as Sinhala-Buddhists but at the same time only pray to “Allah Deiyo” for help. When I said this to my other friends, even they did not ask me to reveal the names because they knew that it was very personal, where as you idiot is asking Shamani to reveal their names. Are you a member of the BBS who is hell bent on attacking such people?

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            Mr. Michael de Silva,

            This person ‘Off the Cuff’ is a stand-up-comedian.

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              Dear Kattakarawala,

              And you got muddied by trying your Mafia tactics and made an ignominious exit from the debate.

              Best Regards
              OTC

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            Dear Michael de Silva

            You say
            I know a few Sinhala Buddhist men who stand outside the Mosques and pray silently to “Allah Deiyo” because, as a non-Muslim they are not allowed inside the mosque.

            Sharmini says
            Then off they go, to a Christian church and light candles and then, to Sai Baba or even a Mosque (I have no idea what they do there).

            She says they go in and you say they cant go in.

            So you are an expert in life in the Middle East?

            Are you sure this happened in the Middle East where Islam is the State Religion? Isn’t Sharia Law supreme over there? Did you know that the Quran commands unbelievers to be tortured, amputated and put to death?

            Nice Fairy tale that you concocted.

            “You will put them to death or you will make them suffer the torture of the cross; you will cut their hands and their feet alternately. They will be driven from the country” (Sura 5:33)

            “To Allah, there are no animals viler than those who do not believe and remain unbelievers” (Sura 8:55)

            “Do not display cowardice, and do not call the infidels to peace when you are superior to them” (Sura 47:35)

            Those who reject (Truth) among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will abide in hell-fire, they are the worst of creatures. (Sura 98:6)

            Though you think you are clever you are anything but clever.

            Unless you are an ethical journalist yourself, I probably would
            know (and practice) more journalistic ethics than you.

            What you are arguing for, is a license to Slander with impunity. Slander is what Sharmini has woven into her fabric with a little truth sprinkled in between.

            Here is a fictitious statement with you as a central figure.

            “Several reliable sources say that Mr Michael de Silva and a certain Cleric with LTTE connections were seen enjoying a sumptuous Dinner at a location in Colombo together with a beautiful female SLBC newscaster. She is a prominent Mahavamsa critique educated at St Bridget’s Convent. Wonder what they were hatching”

            Then that would definitely be slander since you, the reverend and the the lady involved know it’s false. But the reading public will believe it’s true. Here the Straw man or dummy is the “several reliable sources”

            With your logic non of you can rebut it, as the slanderer can hide behind the claim “It is unethical to disclose the source”.

            Is there any difference with Sharmini’s statements and the fictitious statement above?

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              Off the Cuff,

              Are you unemployed?

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                Dear Kattakarawala,

                Judging by your uncouth and imbecile comments, better employed than you I suppose.

                Have a better 2014 than the past 2013

                Best regards
                OTC

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              Off the cuff,

              Are you sure you are alright???

              All what you are writing/hallucinating in a public forum is due to extreme mental illness.

              Are you sure you have not escaped from mental asylum???

              Are you addicted to some kind of hallucinatory drugs???

              I do not think even a normal Antidepressant Drug will be sufficient for you.
              You need very urgent long term institutionalized mental treatment before it is too late.

              I sincerely believe you should try to admit yourself to Angoda mental hospital. Please Don’t delay. I know we will be losing another good entertaining guy (CT forum jester) but take care of yourself first.

              Please take my advice, consult a Phyco specialist as soon as you can or rush to the nearest mental hospital as soon as you can before it is too late.

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                Dear Mr Mohammed Noordeen,

                From your name I assume you to be Muslim.

                Can you confirm or deny that the Four Suras below are written in the Quran?

                Sura 5:33 – “You will put them to death or you will make them suffer the torture of the cross; you will cut their hands and their feet alternately. They will be driven from the country”

                Sura 47:35 – “Do not display cowardice, and do not call the infidels to peace when you are superior to them”

                Sura 8:55 – “To Allah, there are no animals viler than those who do not believe and remain unbelievers”

                Sura 98:6 – “Those who reject (Truth) among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will abide in hell-fire, they are the worst of creatures”

                As a Muslim you are required to believe and obey the Quran without question. You have been taught in Sura 8:55 and 98:6 that Non Muslims are the worst animals on Earth.

                As a Muslim you cannot question the morality of God’s word written in the Quran.

                Given the opportunity, will you Obey the Quran and carry out the orders given in Suras 5:33 and 47:35 and Torture, Amputate and Kill Non Muslims?

                It is possible that your 100% Ad Hominem comment was triggered by my assertion that the Muslims believe that The Earth is flat.

                I have observed the Muslim practice of facing the Kaaba during prayer.
                This can be done only within a circular area of the Visible horizon with the Kaaba at it’s centre, if the Earth is spherical. Which indeed it is.

                ONLY if the Earth is Flat can a Muslim anywhere else on Earth face the Kaaba by taking a compass direction.

                Hence based on science and observation of Muslim practice I inferred that the Muslims believe the Earth is flat.

                I hope next time, you will focus on what I have written and make a compelling argument to negate them instead.

                Wishing you a Prosperous and an Enlightening 2014.

                Kind Regards
                OTC

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                  The above response is like Koheda yanne? malle pol! (Where are you going? Coconuts in my bag!).

                  Off the cuff,

                  Please seek medical advice or get yourself admitted as soon as you can. You are having a very serious mental illness.

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      Dear Sharmini,
      You have very clearly and consisely enlightend the facts.

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      Dear J Muththu, Ms Sharmanie Serasinghe and Adam,

      I disagree. Its more like the Good, the Bad and the Ugly.

      “I have no idea what they do there” says Ms Sharmini Serasinghe. That perhaps is the greatest truth that she has written in this essay. Though she wrote it in relation to Buddhists visiting Mosques seeking Allah’s largesse. Mixing truth with fiction for added effect seems to be her forte. Her excellent command of Language helps her in that effort. However the absence of hard evidence stands out a mile for anyone other than the Choir singing her praises.

      I have observed that she studiously avoids engaging in the discussion and ignores all comments. It appears that she lights the match and sits back to watch the fun!

      I don’t know of any Buddhists (whether good or bad) seeking Allah’s largesse while remaining even as a nominal Buddhist (even by name), do you? After reading this extraordinary claim I have asked this question from my friends (which includes Muslims) but non of them could confirm what Sharmini claims. But I know of converts to Islam who were Buddhists before, hence being accepted as a believer into the Muslim fold, mostly due to marriage.

      Islam is a Religion that prohibits a non believer from entering the holiest places of Mecca and Medina (Surah At Taubah (9) Ayat 28). Allah does not listen to an unbeliever an infidel.

      When the Buddha lived he rejected all domestic comforts and went begging even for his food. Then there is no logic in showering his relics with what he rejected when living. This is not Buddhist philosophy. Ornaments to make visible a Sangha Hierarchy (such as special robes and watapathas that the Buddha did not posses), Bodi puja’s expecting relief, offerings to Hindu Gods expecting relief, Golden fences, golden caskets, golden roofs etc is not Buddhism. Those who practice them are not practising Buddhism but a mixture of Buddhism and Hinduism. Hence I totally agree with Sharmini in this regard. But like in any other religion not all have the intellect of Sharmini.

      Sharmini says “one still comes across ‘academically’ educated, and supposedly intelligent ‘Buddhists’, but sadly lacking in wisdom, who reverently believe, that the Buddha walked out of his mother’s womb, and walked seven steps, while lotuses blossomed, under his feet!”

      Sharmini, I doubt you can find Educated Buddhist who believes that rubbish today in this information age. Exposure to science has ensured that. But you need to know what you criticise. Unfortunately your ignorance of the rubbish claims of supernatural events is also apparent.

      There is no such claim of Buddha walking at birth (please quote from any Buddhist text if you don’t agree). There is a claim, which of course is Rubbish, that baby Sidhartha walked after Birth. But your Hyperbole is that (even allowing for your error in thinking that Baby Sidhartha was indeed the Buddha) is the INCREDULOUS claim that the baby walked out of the mother’s womb!

      Normaly a child is born head first and a woman’s body is designed for that. But for a baby to come out walking, the birth canal and its “Exit” should be as tall and wide as the baby when the woman is lying down. perhaps 18 inches X 12 inches! I am shocked to read this coming from a woman.

      Of course your hyperbole does not reflect on the philosophy of Buddhism which has the following as it’s foundation. suffering exists; it has a cause; it has an end; and there is a way to bring about its end.

      If you do a comparative study of such incredulous beliefs you will find them in any Religion. It is left for people with WISDOM to sieve out the incredulous and seek the essence.

      Let’s see what the other religions have that are incredulous (not exhaustive)

      Hinduism
      Bathing in the Ganges washes away Sin. The largest Human Gathering on Earth is the Khumb Mela were naked men in large numbers publicly frolic in the water. Gods/Goddesses with multiple limbs and multiple heads or A mix of animal parts and human parts are believed to exist. God Shiva is represented and worshiped by his male reproductive organ. God created everything in the Universe.

      Anjana and her husband Kesari prayed Shiva for a child. By Shiva’s direction, Vayu transferred his male energy to Anjana’s womb. Accordingly, Hanuman is identified as the son of the Vayu (wiki). Here the claim is that God impregnated the female humanoid monkey Anjana. Indian mythology is full of Hanuman’s incredulous acts such as building Adam’s bridge and taking the Sun in his Mouth. (wiki) Most Hindu epics are Myths.

      Christianity
      Jesus arose from the dead, Mary impregnated by God remained a virgin and brought forth a part God part Human baby, Ten Commandments was given to Moses by God, Adam and Eve with just 48 chromosomes (Eve and Adam had common chromosomes and DNA) are the ancestral parents of what today is 7 billion (browns, blacks, whites yellows etc), One couple during their lifetime created enough progeny to carry on the human kind and the second generation continued procreating amongst themselves. But since they were all siblings they could not do so without an incestual relationship. Noah’s Arc saved all living beings from extinction, The sea was parted by God to allow his followers to reach safety, God Created the Universe and all within etc.

      Islam
      Allah created everything within the universe, Mohammed who was supposed to be illiterate revealed the Quran as Allah revealed it to him. The Earth is flat (a spherical Earth contradicts the practice of facing the Kaaba during prayer).

      You say “Then there are also those ‘Buddhists’, who on Full Moon (Poya) days, make a bee-line draped in white, to the temple, to ‘pray’ to ‘God Buddha’”

      Hyperbole again.
      Can you identify the Temple or Temples that teach the Buddha is a God (with proof)?

      You say “The Five Precepts- the basic code of ethics that the Buddhist laity, is required to abide by, cease to hold any value, beyond the temple gates!”

      Hyperbole again.

      Would that be the majority or a minority?
      Do ALL who go to Church on Sunday abide by the Ten commandments till the following Sunday? Do ALL who go to Kovil maintain their vows when they come out till the next Kovil Visit? Do ALL devotees coming out of a Mosque on Friday abide by the Quran till the next Friday?

      You say “They offer flowers, to clay and stone images of the Buddha, and light oil lamps, as it is an idée recue; believing by doing so, one earns enormous merit. Little do they understand the significance, of such customs; they fail to connect the similarity of flowers and the oil lamp, with their impermanent life – ‘anicca’.

      Do you take flowers to Temple Sharmini? If you do what do you do with them? Perhaps the following statement of yours explain your confusion “….. where we the students, were ordered to memorize, Buddhist verses in Pali, with no meaning of the verses offered,….”

      The verse that Buddhists recite when offering flowers or lighting oil lamps or incense has the following meanings

      With lights brightly shining
      Abolishing this gloom
      I adore the Enlightened One,
      The Light of the three worlds.

      With perfumed incense
      And fragrant smoke
      I worship the Exalted One,
      Who is great and worthy of worship.

      I worship the Buddha with these flowers;
      May this virtue be helpful for my emancipation;
      Just as these flowers fade,
      Our body will undergo decay

      These meanings are taught to any Buddhist child even in a remote village temple. The emphasis is on impermanence of life. They do not make these offerings to clay, stone or concrete structures as you suggest. The offering is to the Buddha who is thought about at the time of offering. I am sure Ven Piyadassi taught you that.

      Perhaps the St Bridget’s Convent influence is overshadowing Ven Piyadassi Maha Thera’s influence.

      You wrote

      “The Curse of the Caste System What made all those Sinhalese who were originally Buddhists, turn to other religions?”

      Did you forget the deprivation practised by the British for centuries?
      The Sinhala Agricultural Society was destroyed.
      The Waste Lands Acts made them Homeless and destitute without a livelihood.
      Without a Baptism Certificate no education was possible.
      Without an English education employment was not possible.
      The Christian Church had the control backed by the govt.
      Perhaps you did not learn that at your Convent School.

      you say “The caste system, denounced by the Buddha, has been fostered by none other, than the Buddhist clergy of the Mahavamsa, themselves. They divided themselves between Nikayas, based on caste,… “

      Yes true. That was despicable and should not have been tolerated. Your family did the right thing by inviting Priests to your home without any regard for cast division to the Alms giving at your ancestral home. That was exemplary. But your family contributed to the perpetuation by making special arrangements instead of asking the cast conscious Priests who refused to participate to leave if they wanted to. That’s what I would have done.

      You say “.. and banned those Buddhists, they called ‘low caste’, from entering the temples, they administered. “

      This is Absolutely Untrue.
      Can you provide any authoritative proof?
      Perhaps the Convent Education in a high class colombo 7 school did not do justice to Sri Lankan history.

      I think you are confusing the Nikaya cast issue with the Tamil Hindu Cast System. It is in the Tamil Cast system which is sanctioned by the Hindu Religion and very intensely practised in Jaffna that the Low cast Tamils forming about 75% of the Northern Tamil Population are prevented entry in to Hindu Kovils. The Prevention of Social Disabilities Act of 1957 attempted to remove this practice but failed to do so . 14 years later prevention of Social Disabilities (Amendment) Act No.18 of 1971 was enacted which gave the Police the power to prosecute violators (which the first Act did not allow). This resulted in the famous case where Mr Suntheralingam was prosecuted for preventing Low Cast Tamils entering the Mavidapuram Kovil (Temple). The case was appealed up to the Privy Council UK, where the conviction of Mr Suntheralingam was up held.

      Can you provide such a case involving a Buddhist Temple?
      Please do not give ammunition to extremists like the BBS by spreading Lies.

      Quote

      From an article written by Ms Pearl Thevenayagam (she is active in this forum)

      Title – Pernicious caste curse of Tamils living in the dark ages
      (June 30, London, Sri Lanka Guardian)

      Mr Sebastian Rasalingam’ article, Sinhalisation of the North and Tamilisation of the South in yesterday’s Sri Lanka Guardian, is of utmost necessity and urgent issue Tamils need to address if we are to reach closure on our prejudices and shine the torch inwards for permanent integration into Sri Lankan polity and obtain our legitimate rights from the majority Sinhala government.

      Tamil leaders have systematically fuelled caste based hierarchy and even abroad they cannot desist from trumpeting their castes while paying obeisance to the LTTE leader for championing their rights. When I wrote on Jaffna’s Caste Curse in mid ‘90s for The Sunday Leader most of my friends ridiculed me and said I was living in cloud cuckoo land.

      I am still not sure what my caste is. On the one hand my late father used to say we have a family tree and on the other my mother used to say we have enough mix in our blood that it would be indeed very difficult to define our caste-base.

      As a 12 year old I became conscious of how Tamils used the caste system to enslave least 75 percent of the Tamil population by obtaining their services virtually free based on their belonging to the servile class. I wondered about my own family’s hypocrisy when on the one hand they practised Catholicism to the letter treating our servants kindly and generously and on the other never allowing us to mix with those who are perceived to belong to lower castes. They even interrogated my classmates before they could be allowed into the hall.

      Elsewhere in the same article she writes

      I was touched and enlightened by this scholar Mr Rasalingam’s honest, erudite and simple explanation on the fate that befell Tamils and why Tamils need to change their attitudes. They are still living in the dark ages carrying with them the burden of ignorance, arrogance and narrow-mindedness.

      No amount of militant or political solution can gain Tamils their rights unless this caste menace is eradicated even by enforcement of laws.

      Please accept my congratulations on this excellent article Mr Rasalingam.

      Unquote (emphasis mine, I salute Ms Thevanayagam’s bravery and honesty)

      Mr Neville Jayaweera who was hand picked to enforce the Language Law in Jaffna discovered that ALL 11 elected MPs of Jaffna and ALL 14 DRO’s under him had Colluded to subvert the Social Disabilities Act of 1957. ALL of them, the Top Political and Civil administration of Jaffna were High Cast elite Tamils who did not want the Caste system in Jaffna dismantled. Thanks to Mr Jayweera Sinhala only was never implemented in the North. Instead he obtained unofficial approval to implement the yet ungazetted Reasonable Use of Tamil Act. Please remember that Jaffna Tamils wanted the Hindu Tamil Cast system perpetuated by getting it written in to the Constitution.

      Here is a short primer of the most horrible slavery and depravity practised on 75% of Tamils in the North (the Servile Class) by the 25% Elite Land owning class of Tamils.

      After extensive research at the Jaffna Public Library Mr. Neville Jayaweera a former Government Agent Jaffna states.

      “Even in the mid 1960s, the following principles defined what it meant to be a non-Vellala.

      1. Regardless of natural endowments, anyone born a non-Vellala was frozen into his particular station for all of his life, be it fishing, tree climbing, road sweeping or whatever. Heredity was a cast iron frame from which there was no escape.
      2. They dared not marry anyone from the Vellala caste.
      3. They were not allowed into premises occupied by the Vellalas except for doing the tasks they was born into.
      4. They did not have access into temples owned or managed by Brahmins or Vellalas. In other words, they were non-persons.
      5. They did not have access into Hindu schools or to proceed for higher education. This barrier was breached effectively only when missionary schools began to proliferate, much to the consternation of Hindu leaders.
      6. They could not reside outside their villages.
      7. They could not drink at the village well nor use any other public amenity outside their own villages.
      8. They could not wear jewellery, nor ride in carriages nor use drums at any ceremony.
      9. When they died they could not be cremated or buried on land reserved for the Vellalas.
      unquote

      You say “Therefore, is it any wonder, that those Sinhalese Buddhists, would turn to a more compassionate faith, where caste, creed or ethnicity, has no place? “

      How about providing a percentage comparison in support of your contention.
      I hope after reading the above you will realise how foolish the inference and the question is!

      BTW which Faith are you adducing to? Cannot be Hinduism as Cast is ingrained within it. Most converts to Islam is due to marriage. Hence you must be meaning Christianity. Christianity has many forms, very much more than Buddhism. Is it the form that is vividly depicted in the “Rabbit proof Fence” or is it the one practised in Canada with what is today called the First Nation people? If you are not aware of those brands of compassion, please do some research.

      In the North there were Churches for the Low casts. Please refer to the following essay “My Village” written by Dr Nagalingam Ethirweerasingham, the first president of the Global Tamil Forum for more information on the extent of subjugation enforced on about 75% of Tamils who were categorised as Low cast and hence became servile to the ruling class who exploited them. (http://tamilnation.co/forum/ethir/ode.htm)

      My reply to your essay titled Sri Lanka Has A 2600 Year-Old Culture? Gives more details. If you haven’t read it yet please do so. https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/sri-lanka-has-a-2600-year-old-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-819568

      You say “From an early age, the innocent and pure minds, of Sinhalese Buddhist children, are ‘brainwashed’, by foolish parents and teachers, with Sinhala-Buddhist racism; Mahavamsa Buddhism!”

      Hyperbole again.
      Were you brainwashed as a child in this way?
      Were your neighbours’ children brainwashed?
      Were your friends children brainwashed?
      If not how do you come to the conclusion that the rest of the Buddhist children are brainwashed?

      you say “They are taught, to regard, the ‘other’, who is not a Sinhala-Buddhist, as “an invader”. They are taught, not to trust this ‘other’, who does not belong to Sri Lanka, and is only a ‘guest’, of the ‘benevolent’ Sinhala-Buddhists.”

      Hyperbole again.
      Assuming you are in control of your senses what about the Sinhala Christians? They were Sinhala Buddhists at one time and converted by force or deprivation or both. By what logic can they be termed “Invaders”?

      Lanka was invaded several times and thats a fact.
      Archaeological Evidence points to Balangoda Man as the earliest inhabitant 34,000 years ago. Anyone who is not a descendant of the Balangoda man is an invader. Vijaya is no exception.

      The Sinhalese are a product of Lanka. They are not found anywhere else. They are not Portuguese. They are not, Dutch. They are not Kafirs. They are not English. They are not Tamil. They are not Moor. They are not Veddah. But they are obviously a mixture of several races who lived in Lanka as indigenes and invaders. Since the Sinhalese existed before the westerners arrived, Western contribution to the Sinhalese genome would be non-existent but India and the East would have definitely contributed though no one is sure about the composition.

      There is one thing that everyone is sure about. The one thing that identifies the Sinhalese. It’s not Religion but it is the Sinhala Language that is found nowhere else but in Sri Lanka (BTW Sinhala has a close relationship to Maldivian Dhivehi). This does not mean that others who are born and bred in Lanka and holds Sri Lankan nationality are not children of Lanka. But it means that the Sinhalese did not invade Sri Lanka. They are the product of Sri Lanka.

      You say “All this happened, thirty-five years ago (late 70s), and I sincerely hope, this situation has changed, for the better now”

      You mean you did not check before writing this essay? Isn’t that a dereliction of a Journalist’s duty?

      You say “As a young adult, I came across many, who regarded the iconic Sinhala-Buddhist-Anagarika Dharmapala, as the next best thing, to Lord Buddha”

      Further hyperbole.
      I am at a loss to understand from where you get these fantastic ideas. Was it at your convent St Bridget’s? No Buddhist would ever think that the incomparable Buddha had a close second in Si Lanka. What Rubbish!

      Have you ever heard of Colonel Olcott and Madam Helena Blavatsky?
      Non of them were Sinhalese but they were Buddhists.

      There was a time when education was not possible without a Baptismal Certificate. Buddhist schools were opened by the Buddhist Theosophical Society (BTS) which was established by Colonel Olcott a Protestant Christian American. He Was the BTS President till his death. The BTS built several Buddhist schools in Ceylon. Ananda College in Colombo, Mahinda College in Galle, Dharmaraja College in Kandy and Maliyadeva College in Kurunegala were the largest.

      Here is an extract that exposes your Ugly side.

      Olcott was President of the Theosophical Society until his death on February 17, 1907. Two major streets in Colombo and Galle have been named Olcott Mawatha, to commemorate him. A statue of him has been built in front of Colombo Fort Railway Station. Many other schools that he helped to found or were founded in memory of him have commemorative statues in honor of his contribution to Buddhist education. He is still remembered fondly by many Sri Lankans today.

      The date of his death is often remembered by Buddhist centers and Sunday schools in present-day Sri Lanka, as well as in Theosophical communities around the globe. Olcott believed himself to be Asia’s savior, the outsider hero who would sweep in at the end of the drama to save a disenchanted subcontinent from spiritual death. The effort to revitalize Buddhism within Sri Lanka was successful and influenced many native Buddhist intellectuals. Sri Lanka was dominated by British colonial power and influence at the time, and many Buddhists heard Olcott’s interpretation of the Buddha’s message as socially motivating and supportive of efforts to overturn colonialist efforts to ignore Buddhism and Buddhist tradition. As David McMahan wrote, “Henry Steel Olcott saw the Buddha as a figure much like the ideal liberal freethinker – someone full of ‘benevolence,’ ‘gratitude,’ and ‘tolerance,’ who promoted ‘brotherhood among all men’ as well as ‘lessons in manly self-reliance”. His view of Buddha influenced Sri Lankan leaders, such as Anagarika Dharmapala. (Wiki)

      There was also a Tamil Hindu revival in the North led by Mr Arumaka Navalar (1822 – 1879). Please read it up.

      You say “This ‘gentleman’ informed me, in an angry and loud voice, that I had no business, as a woman, admitting my son, though I was his mother, to a Buddhist Sunday School. He demanded that my son, be accompanied, by his father, if I wished to have him admitted, to this Buddhist Sunday School!”

      Is this also cooked up to fit the theme of your essay?
      Was this before Ven. Piyadassi’s death in 1998?

      You say “Teach Comparative Religion in Schools”

      Good idea but it should be compulsory in All Schools whether Private, Assisted or Government. The Buddhists will welcome it, not sure of the others though.

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        Mr. Off the Cuff,

        “I don’t know of any Buddhists (whether good or bad) seeking Allah’s largesse while remaining even as a nominal Buddhist (even by name), do you?”

        My husband (a Buddhist) and I (a Muslim) got married a few months ago. Though my husband refused to become a Muslim, he agreed to go to the Mosque with me for a blessing.

        We had to wait a long time because we were told some ‘Buddhist people’ were inside having a blessing. It was all very secretive because non Muslims are not supposed to have such blessings.

        When the Buddhist people eventually came out, my Buddhist husband immediately recognised them. They were businessmen known to my husband.

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          Dear Ms Feroza,

          Thank you.

          The following are quotes from the Quran and hence I am at a loss to understand what you Buddhist Husband was blessed with by the Priest at your Masjid.

          “To Allah, there are no animals viler than those who do not believe and remain unbelievers” (Sura 8:55)

          “Here is the fate of those who fight Allah and his messenger: you will put them to death or you will make them suffer the torture of the cross; you will cut their hands and their feet alternately. They will be driven from the country” (Sura 5:33)

          “Do not display cowardice, and do not call the infidels to peace when you are superior to them” (Sura 47:35).

          Those who reject (Truth) among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will abide in hell-fire, they are the worst of creatures. (Sura 98:6)

          You say “When the Buddhist people eventually came out, my Buddhist husband immediately recognised them. They were businessmen known to my husband”

          The above quotes from the Quran does not support you contention.
          Were they doing a Secretive Business in there?

          What prevents your husband from exposing them by naming and shaming them?

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            Off the Cuff and others,

            How many of you do not know or pretending not knowing about the FACT that Sharmini Serasinghe has mentioned here about Sinhala-Buddhists visiting and worshiping other religious Gods?

            Buddha is not a god. Buddha is a man who achieved enlightenment and who has left behind a set of instructions for how you, too, can achieve enlightenment. Although there are no Gods in Buddhism, many Sinhala-Buddhists (of course not all), when their life is undergoing difficulty or danger turns to the Buddha for help and comfort as one would to a God. Monks do not worship Buddha as God, but the people do worship the Buddha like a god and offer offerings in the form of flowers, cooked food, bodhi puja, etc.

            However, when this unique Sinhala/Mahavamsa-Buddha fails to deliver, they next make a bee-line, to a Hindu kovil/Devale (Katharagama, Muneshwaram, Seenagama, etc) and break coconuts, praying for miracles, as well as cursing and damning to hell, fellow human beings. If you go to the St. Antony’s Church, Colombo or St. Jude’s church, Gampaha you will be able to see many Sinhala-Buddhists (with pirith noola tied on their hand) lighting candles and praying for miracles to happen. A large number of Sinhala-Buddhists (including politicians and senior officers in the armed forces) follow Sai Baba. Sinhala-Buddhists praying to Muslim God Allah is quite rare but still it is true. I have never seen but have heard some people (Sinhala-Buddhists) saying God Allah is very powerful and no harm in worshipping.

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              So you mean sinhala buddhists worship gods of other religion? where has anyone said otherwise (but never heard of one going to a mosque). The fact is sinhala buddhists worship other faiths because they are MORE open to them and Buddhism in SL is not a rigid system that punishes anyone who does so. The secular nature of buddhism and the freedom that buddhism in SL allows is apparent from that which very well DEBUNK the claim that SInhala buddhists hates other faiths as instructed by Mahavamsa. :)

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                Sach,

                “The secular nature of buddhism and the freedom that buddhism in SL allows is apparent from that which very well DEBUNK the claim that SInhala buddhists hates other faiths as instructed by Mahavamsa”

                If Sinhala Buddhists don’t hate other faith, why are they destroying kovils, churches and mosques?

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                “The secular nature of buddhism and the freedom that buddhism in SL”

                What Nonsense!!!

                Why the others are not coming to Buddhism but Buddhists are going to others? The Buddhists are running to other Gods (religions) because Buddhism has failed to deliver what they want. Simple!

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              Dear Joseph,

              You say “I have never seen but have heard some people (Sinhala-Buddhists) saying God Allah is very powerful and no harm in worshipping”

              I can see you struggling with your conscience to decide whether to lie or not. Sharmini is emphatic in her assertion you are not. Why?

              You say “Sinhala-Buddhists praying to Muslim God Allah is quite rare but still it is true”

              What does Sharmini Say?

              “When this unique ‘brand’ of Sinhala/Mahavamsa-Buddhism fails to deliver, they next make a bee-line, to a Hindu kovil, break coconuts, praying for miracles, as well as cursing and damning to hell, fellow human beings. Then off they go, to a Christian church and light candles and then, to Sai Baba or even a Mosque (I have no idea what they do there). At all these places, promises (vows) are made, to various Gods, on a quid pro quo basis.”

              Does not convey any shortage of “Sinhala Mahavamsa Buddhists” going to Mosques does she?

              You are trying to water down the claim by calling it “Rare” but Sharmini’s does not convey anything of the sort. I don’t accept your assertion as the Quran itself VIOLENTLY rejects Non believers.

              Admit it. Buddhist of any colour seeking Allah’s Largess is CRAP.
              Sharmini has concocted this to Shock and Awe the CT Readers and may be ruing that she did so as it has turned out to be the Achilles Heel for her essay. She has not said a word in her defence. That speaks for itself.

              Regarding the other matters raised I have answered them in my Rebuttal to Sharmini and to others who raised counter arguments. Please read them.

              If you have any specific questions after reading them I will gladly answer.

              Wishing you a Prosperous and Enlightening 2014

              Kind Regards
              OTC

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        Great, I’m waiting for kattakaluwara, umbalakada, and all pungent CT brigades response on behalf of the boss.

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          Your Boss?

          Oh, so ‘Off the Cuff’ is your boss……..couldn’t handle the pressure on your own, could you, so you called in “your boss” to help you out.

          No wonder he sounds just like you; stupid and dumb to the core.

          Birds of a feather do flock together.

          Better take your medication Kirthi Jayasekera or you might end up at the Angoda Mental Hospital.

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        @ Off the cuff,

        Your long boring essay (not a comment) is full of your ignorance. Your main objective appears to be to sling mud at the author.

        In case you didn’t know, the Buddha never demanded to be worshiped. You are also ignorant of the Pali language. Following is the correct translation of the verse

        Vannagandhagunopetam
        etam kusumasantatim
        pujayami munindassa
        siripadasaroruhe.

        Pujemi Buddham kusumena ‘nena
        punnena ‘metena ca hotu mokkham
        Puppham milayati yatha idam me
        kayo tatha yati vinasabahavam.

        “This mass of flowers endowed with color, fragrance, and quality I offer at the lotus-like feet of the King of Sages. I worship the Buddha with these flowers: by the merit of this may I attain freedom. Even as these flowers do fade, so does my body come to destruction.”
        This stanza incorporates the Buddhist idea of the impermanence (anicca) of all phenomena.

        Ghanasarappadittena
        dipena tamadamsina
        tilokadipam sambuddham
        pujayami tamonudam.

        “With this lamp lit with camphor that dispels all darkness, I worship the Perfectly Enlightened One who is a lamp unto the three worlds and is the dispeller of darkness.”

        As the Buddha is regarded as the dispeller of the darkness of ignorance, when lighted lamps are offered in his name this metaphorical contrast between the light of knowledge and the darkness of ignorance is taken as the theoretical basis for the ritual. This kind of symbolism being too deep for the vast majority of ordinary people, their motive for this ritual is usually the desire to acquire merit or to avert the evil influence of a bad planetary conjunction or their own negative actions.

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        Further proof that you ‘Off the Cuff’ is a dim wit-

        “Hyperbole again. Can you identify the Temple or Temples that teach the Buddha is a God (with proof)?”

        Idiot, read the article again and again at least ten times, then hopefully you will get the message the author is attempting to convey.

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          What is the meaning of reading this nonsense over and over as if it is more complex than the special theory of relativity. May be for the brigade, this is the most complex publication they have ever seen, as it bashes what is Sinhala all round.

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            Kirthi,

            So why bother “reading this nonsense over and over”?

            And commenting “nonsense over and over”?

            Your words not mine :-)

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              Good one!

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        Stupid man,

        “Let’s see what the other religions have that are incredulous (not exhaustive)”

        You are comparing the Buddhist philosophy with other religions that believe in ‘creator Gods’. Come off it man. Don’t you know the difference?

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        “But your family contributed to the perpetuation by making special arrangements instead of asking the cast conscious Priests who refused to participate to leave if they wanted to. That’s what I would have done.”

        I’m sure you would have, as you have no clue of what Buddhism is all about.

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        “Sharmini says “one still comes across ‘academically’ educated, and supposedly intelligent ‘Buddhists’, but sadly lacking in wisdom, who reverently believe, that the Buddha walked out of his mother’s womb, and walked seven steps, while lotuses blossomed, under his feet!” Sharmini, I doubt you can find Educated Buddhist who believes that rubbish today in this information age. Exposure to science has ensured that.”

        You ‘Off the Cuff’ must be a frog-in-a-well.

        There are plenty of academically qualified an so called intellectual Buddhists who believe that the Buddha was born in Sri Lanka, the Mahavamsa was written by him and that he walked on lotuses immediately after birth.

        By the way, you seem to be very familiar with the birth canal of a woman. Perhaps you are are woman who is out of touch with other birthing methods i.e. cesarean section.

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        Off the Cuff,

        You seem to be a thoroughly confused person as your essay/comment is totally out of focus.

        You also cite Ms Pearl Thevenayagam’s article on a subject that has no relevance to the topic under discussion on this thread.

        So without wasting anymore valuable cyber space with your ignorance and stupidity, please do yourself a favour, preserve whatever self respect you have (if you have any)and go take a hike.

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          Dear Mr. Mahadenamuttha Jr,

          Thank you for your response and sorry if my rebuttal of Ms Sharmanie Serasinghe was too long for you to assimilate. I prefer to make a comprehensive response. Sharmini wrote a very long essay and hence my rebuttal had to be long too.

          The source of the meanings was the Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offering_%28Buddhism%29). There is s discussion page there and if you have an issue with the wiki meanings please take it up there.

          Though you are gullible to swallow Sharmini’s utterances sans proof I am not.

          Sharmini has not come forward to defend what she has written. That’s either cowardice or the knowledge that she cannot prove what she says.

          Though you try to intimidate me it will not happen. If you want to rebut what I have written please do so with a logical argument, name calling has no effect. I can see that you have been flustered resulting in 6 irrational comments.

          Responding to my question to Sharmini “Hyperbole again. Can you identify the Temple or Temples that teach the Buddha is a God (with proof)?”

          You say “Idiot, read the article again and again at least ten times, then hopefully you will get the message the author is attempting to convey.”

          Does that mean like Sharmini you cannot identify the Temples that say the Buddha is a God? I hope Sharmini has more sense than you and will read what I wrote with more care before she decides to rebut it.

          Again in response to my question to Sharmini “Let’s see what the other religions have that are incredulous (not exhaustive)”

          You say “You are comparing the Buddhist philosophy with other religions that believe in ‘creator Gods’. Come off it man. Don’t you know the difference?”

          Perhaps your power’s of comprehension has been dimmed by your anger. The comparison is not about Buddhism and the religions of Creators. It’s a comparison of Sharmini’s invention whose prophet is God Buddha and that of Creator Gods!

          You say “I’m sure you would have, as you have no clue of what Buddhism is all about. ”

          Too early in the day to make a pronouncement of that nature. You will know as time passes.

          You say “You ‘Off the Cuff’ must be a frog-in-a-well. There are plenty of academically qualified an so called intellectual Buddhists who believe that the Buddha was born in Sri Lanka, the Mahavamsa was written by him and that he walked on lotuses immediately after birth.”

          Too scared to name them?
          If you decide to name them please do so with proof.

          You are also like Sharmini, making EMPTY statements sans proof!

          You say “By the way, you seem to be very familiar with the birth canal of a woman.”

          Of course I do, any medical person including Nurses, attendants and mid wives are familiar with it. In addition any married man would be familiar. Then ALL Educated person’s with a knowledge of Physiology will also be familiar. Then at least some women would also be familiar. That would total several millions in Lanka alone. It’s unfortunate that you remain ignorant. Perhaps you are not Married yet but IF you are married and still is clueless you should see a medical specialist to cure your dysfunction.

          Continuing you say “Perhaps you are are woman who is out of touch with other birthing methods i.e. cesarean section”

          Well Mr Junior Mahadenamuttha, you seem to be having a Language confusion. Where did Ms Sharmini Serasinghe refer to a C-section? She said “..that the Buddha walked out of his mother’s womb,…” How was that accomplished through a comparatively small Cervical canal and the Cervix that can barely accommodate the shoulder width of a human baby, when fully dilated? Remember, she said WALKED and I suppose to WALK you have to STAND. Now please use your limitless Wisdom and Intellect to explain how that miracle happened?

          BTW Mr Mahadanamuttha Jr, I assume you are an EDUCATED person and is aware of what is being discussed. Did you notice that Sharmini says the BUDDHA walked at birth? How can that be when Siddharta was 35 years of age when he became the Buddha?

          You say “You also cite Ms Pearl Thevenayagam’s article on a subject that has no relevance to the topic under discussion on this thread.”

          Ms Sharmini Serasinghe brought out the topic of Caste and made a lot of noise about cast amongst the Buddhist Nikayas. It was hence appropriate to point out to her that in Sri Lanka a form of Cast system WORSE than SLAVERY was practised.

          That CAST system forced a Scavenger’s Child and his child etc to remain a Scavenger for Life without any hope of relief. Even if that Child was a Child Prodigy and had the Brains of Einstein he would still be carting human excreta for life. It was opportune to show her that the victims of that Cast system was LOCKED in to specific Villagers and hence lived in an Open Prison. It was opportune to show her that that Caste system prevented Children of the Servile Class from attending Schools. In Fact that Cast system OPPRESSED a people who formed a majority to an unimaginable level of deprivation that even prevented them from quenching their thirst at a public well. You seem to be angered by the information which was unknown to the general public for decades. It was also opportune to remind her that attempts were made to have that Cast written into the Constitution. It was also opportune to bring to her notice that ALL 11 Elected MPs and ALL 14 DRO’s who constituted the Top level Civil administration Colluded to Subvert the PDA that sought to emancipate this Servile Majority.

          Is it because the Sinhala Buddhists had no part in that?

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            Off the Cuff,

            It is now quite obvious you are “Off your Rocker” as Goofy says below.

            You have obviously either glanced through Sharmini’s article and not read it carefully or you have, but the lack of a brain in your thick skull prevents you from comprehending it.

            For example the writer says-

            “In this “wonderland” called Sri Lanka, and in this day and age, one still comes across ‘academically’ educated, and supposedly intelligent ‘Buddhists’, but sadly lacking in wisdom, who reverently believe, that the Buddha walked out of his mother’s womb, and walked seven steps, while lotuses blossomed, under his feet!

            You say-

            “She said “..that the Buddha walked out of his mother’s womb,…” How was that accomplished through a comparatively small Cervical canal and the Cervix that can barely accommodate the shoulder width of a human baby, when fully dilated? Remember, she said WALKED and I suppose to WALK you have to STAND.”

            You stupid “Cuff”, read what Sharmini has written and compare it with your interpretation of it. Does Sharmini claim that the Buddha walked out of his mother’s womb or does she say “one still comes across ‘academically’ educated, and supposedly intelligent ‘Buddhists’, but sadly lacking in wisdom, who reverently believe, that the Buddha walked out of his mother’s womb.”?

            Yet another idiotic misinterpretations of yours-

            ” ………….. Sharmini’s invention whose prophet is God Buddha and that of Creator Gods!…………Can you identify the Temple or Temples that teach the Buddha is a God (with proof)?”

            While Sharmini says-

            “Then there are also those ‘Buddhists’, who on Full Moon (Poya) days, make a bee-line draped in white, to the temple, to ‘pray’ to ‘God Buddha’.

            Note the inverted commas (‘ ‘).

            You must be dumb as a doorknob not to have caught that!

            You ask-

            “Did you notice that Sharmini says the BUDDHA walked at birth? How can that be when Siddharta was 35 years of age when he became the Buddha?

            No I didn’t notice it, because it’s obvious she didn’t, but there a thousands out there who do.

            Since none of us were present when Prince Siddhartha (btw, you spelt his name wrong) was born, we don’t know if he walked or stood on his head when he was born. According to the pictures on Vesak pandals, Vesak cards etc.,depicting his birth, he’s dressed as a miniature Buddha, standing on a lotus, draped in a saffron robe, not baby-pampers.

            So going by these pictures, it was a little Buddha and not Prince Siddhartha who was born clothed in a saffron robe and walked! You will have to take up this matter with those artistes responsible for this misinterpretation, instead of insulting me an the writer.

            You say-

            “Ms Sharmini Serasinghe brought out the topic of Caste and made a lot of noise about cast amongst the Buddhist Nikayas. It was hence appropriate to point out to her that in Sri Lanka a form of Cast system WORSE than SLAVERY was practised.”

            Tell me Cuff, do two wrongs make a right?

            Aren’t you contradicting yourself here?

            You say-

            “Sharmini has not come forward to defend what she has written. That’s either cowardice or the knowledge that she cannot prove what she says.”

            Perhaps you have never heard of a writer’s ethics. Writers of Sharmini’s calbre don’t comment on their own threads. Hence her silence. She only bent the rule when she wrote about her friend Kamalini Selvarajan who has Alzheimer’s, but that was necessary on Sharmini’s part.

            You say-

            “Too scared to name them? If you decide to name them please do so with proof.”

            Do you require “proof” as in birth certificates, ID cards, passport etc?

            I have taken a lot of time off from my duties as Village Headman, to try and make you realise your foolishness, which unfortunately for you, you have displayed on a public forum, accessed by the whole wide world.

            After all this, you still cannot understand how hollow your argument are, then you are an enemy unto yourself!

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              Dear Mahadenamuttha Jr,

              You say “For example the writer says- “In this “wonderland” called Sri Lanka, and in this day and age, one still comes across ‘academically’ educated, and supposedly intelligent ‘Buddhists’, but sadly lacking in wisdom, who reverently believe, that the Buddha walked out of his mother’s womb, and walked seven steps, while lotuses blossomed, under his feet!”

              Yes you are correct, that’s what she wrote. Now let’s analyse it.

              She implies that she has knowledge of people, Academically Educated and Intelligent who believe in this Hocus Pocus in this age of Science an information.

              This means she either has personal knowledge of such people or irrefutable evidence of their existence. But the absence of Hard Evidence (sufficient to verify her claims) makes it innuendo or if looked at benevolently, a literary exaggeration. Not very different to the Mahavamsa that she is critical of.

              The “…. the Buddha walked out of his mother’s womb…” part, is not found in any Buddhist text. What is found in Buddhist literature is a miracle of a Human baby named Siddhartha (not the Buddha) walking immediately after birth, taking seven steps, while lotuses bloomed underneath and making an announcement. That claim, like Sharmini’s, is unbelievable and unverifiable.

              Since Sharmini is criticising from a self proclaimed position of “Wisdom” that these other intelligent, academically educated Buddhists do not posses and as a lay disciple of the renowned authority on Buddhist Philosophy Ven Piyadassi, Elevating that Lay baby to that of a Buddha with the FULL KNOWLEDGE that no such claim was ever made in ANY Buddhist text is, inexcusable.

              The inability to reference any Standard Buddhist text in support of that claim is conclusive proof that it is a CONCOCTED Lie used to shock and awe the CT readership and deceive the less endowed.

              Since she is the Author of “…. that the Buddha walked out of his mother’s womb,..” statement (not found anywhere in any Buddhist text) she becomes responsible for the implications. Hence my question directed at her, the author of this canard, asking her how a baby could walk out of a woman’s womb though a narrow passage that will not even allow crawling, leave alone walking, is appropriate.

              The ONLY way out of that question is to produce corroborating evidence from a Buddhist Text. Let alone a Buddhist text she will not find it even in the non canonical and much maligned Mahavamsa.

              Perhaps Sharmini or a member of her Choir can perform a Miracle and pull a rabbit out of the bag!

              Well Mr Mahadenemuththa Jr you have been completely hoodwinked by a Very Clever Writer. You are unable to see through the deceptive language used by Sharmini in propagating a canard.

              That you are deceived is not in doubt as you ask “Does Sharmini claim that the Buddha walked out of his mother’s womb or does she say “one still comes across ‘academically’ educated, and supposedly intelligent ‘Buddhists’, but sadly lacking in wisdom, who reverently believe, that the Buddha walked out of his mother’s womb.”?” As I noted before, Sharmini is clever and has a superior command of English. You are too inept and egoistic to realise that the real voice behind the GHOST PROXY of “invisible Buddhist without wisdom” is that of Sharmini’s!

              Sharmini’s clever style of writing and her command of English is too much for you to handle, you are way below her league!

              Regarding making beeline to Temple etc you say “Do you require “proof” as in birth certificates, ID cards, passport etc?”

              Oh please even if you are dumb try to conceal it. What is required is sufficient evidence to verify the claims made. For starters you may try names and addresses.

              Regarding cast you say “Tell me Cuff, do two wrongs make a right? Aren’t you contradicting yourself here?”

              Who did the wrong? Sharmini, the Priests who segregated the Sangha on Cast lines, The Tamil Elite class who enslaved the 75% Tamil majority or me?

              Sharmini was selective in reporting Cast issues, completely Blacking out the Slavery in the North. I filled that gap to bring the Cast issues into proper perspective.
              Both of us reported what others practised.
              Neither Sharmini nor I have degraded ourselves by using cast to oppress others.

              The Wrong should be uprooted at source. Misreporting, under reporting and not reporting will not do that. It should be reported without watering it down to shame those who practise it and to make the world aware of the Truth. Do you have a problem with that?

              You say “Perhaps you have never heard of a writer’s ethics. Writers of Sharmini’s calbre don’t comment on their own threads. Hence her silence”

              That is the worst excuse I have heard as a cover for Slander and Deceit.

              I have worked with many illustrious journalists. All of them allow a right of reply and All of them defend what they write. Could you refer us to an authoritative source of Journalistic Ethics that confirm what you say? Might be very handy in the future!

              You say “Since none of us were present when Prince Siddhartha (btw, you spelt his name wrong) was born, we don’t know if he walked or stood on his head when he was born.”

              Are you saying that Sharmini wrote all these things in ignorance!

              You say “According to the pictures on Vesak pandals, Vesak cards etc.,depicting his birth, he’s dressed as a miniature Buddha, standing on a lotus, draped in a saffron robe, not baby-pampers. So going by these pictures, it was a little Buddha and not Prince Siddhartha who was born clothed in a saffron robe and walked! You will have to take up this matter with those artistes responsible for this misinterpretation,…..”

              So ALL your knowledge is gathered from GRAFFITI!!!!
              That explains it.

              You say “…instead of insulting me an the writer”

              WOW THAT IS RICH!!!
              Please go through your posts and see the number of expletives used by you to try and intimidate me and now you have the cheek to say I insult you? Sorry Sir, what ever insults that you have heaped on yourself has been of your own making.

              As for Sharmini, I have asked her searching and probing questions. They are not insults but if left unanswered will expose her perfidy.

              You say “I have taken a lot of time off from my duties as Village Headman, to try and make you realise your foolishness, which unfortunately for you, you have displayed on a public forum, accessed by the whole wide world”

              You will have to take much more time off in order to produce an incisive argument to prove my foolishness. But take care that your own foolishness does not overtake mine.

              I thought Village Headmen were abolished long time ago and was replaced by Grama Sevaka (Grama = Village, Sevaka = Worker). We know from experience how egoistical some of them are, so difficult to meet and so arrogant (I am not saying you are one of them though).

              But don’t worry about my reputation I can hold my own. Hope you can keep yours intact.

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                “You will have to take much more time off in order to produce an incisive argument to prove my foolishness”

                My dear fellow, I don’t have to bother proving your foolishness, you have done it beautifully for me.

                Ta ta and compliments of the season!

                MM (Jnr)

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                  Dear Mahadenamuththa Jr,

                  You say “My dear fellow, I don’t have to bother proving your foolishness, you have done it beautifully for me”

                  Your meek withdrawal after an unsuccessful attempt at intimidation is noted.

                  For a person whose knowledge of the subject matter he attempts to discuss is limited to Graffiti, you have no alternative I suppose.

                  But no hard feelings friend have a prosperous and an enlightened 2014.

                  Best Regards
                  OTC.

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                    Off the Cuff

                    “Your meek withdrawal after an unsuccessful attempt at intimidation is noted.”

                    Why do you believe his was an unsuccessful attempt at intimidation?

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                      Dear Native Vedda,

                      Please read the debate and then you will know

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                    Off the cuff

                    Are you a kid who needs to grow up or are you a grown up mentally retarded?

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                      Try replying my post ,,then you will know

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                “The “…. the Buddha walked out of his mother’s womb…” part, is not found in any Buddhist text. What is found in Buddhist literature is a miracle of a Human baby named Siddhartha (not the Buddha) walking immediately after birth, taking seven steps, while lotuses bloomed underneath and making an announcement.”

                When I read OTC’s very first argument (the above) I was rolling on the floor and laughing. How silly and childish can a person be to argue in this manner.

                He is accepting the miracle story as true but his argument is, it should have been Siddhartha and not Buddha. LOL

                I stopped reading the rest because the first one itself proves beyond any doubt that this guy is a damn foolish guy. Mahadana Muththa (Jnr), do not waste your time with such idiots.

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                  Dear Prasad,

                  My very first observation is that Sharmini’s mixes Truth with Fiction.

                  Apparently you have accepted that as seen by your complete Silence.

                  My next observation was However the absence of hard evidence stands out a mile for anyone other than the Choir singing her praises.

                  Again your silence signifies your acceptance.

                  My next observation was she studiously avoids engaging in the discussion and ignores all comments. It appears that she lights the match and sits back to watch the fun!

                  You continue with your silence signifying acceptance.

                  Then comes my Very First Argument (please do a recount if you dont agree) that counters Sharmini’s claim of Buddhists visiting Mosques seeking solace.

                  I don’t know of any Buddhists (whether good or bad) seeking Allah’s largesse while remaining even as a nominal Buddhist (even by name), do you? which was followed by Islam is a Religion that prohibits a non believer from entering the holiest places of Mecca and Medina (Surah At Taubah (9) Ayat 28). Allah does not listen to an unbeliever an infidel.

                  You continue with your silence signifying you acceptance of what I wrote.

                  Then comes my statement showing areas where I agree with Sharmini.

                  When the Buddha lived he rejected all domestic comforts and went begging even for his food. Then there is no logic in showering his relics with what he rejected when living. This is not Buddhist philosophy. Ornaments to make visible a Sangha Hierarchy (such as special robes and watapathas that the Buddha did not posses), Bodi puja’s expecting relief, offerings to Hindu Gods expecting relief, Golden fences, golden caskets, golden roofs etc is not Buddhism. Those who practice them are not practising Buddhism but a mixture of Buddhism and Hinduism. Hence I totally agree with Sharmini in this regard. But like in any other religion not all have the intellect of Sharmini.

                  Your silence continues signifying agreement. So far so good you were still not rolling on the floor.

                  Here is what Sharmini says
                  “one still comes across ‘academically’ educated, and supposedly intelligent ‘Buddhists’, but sadly lacking in wisdom, who reverently believe, that the Buddha walked out of his mother’s womb, and walked seven steps, while lotuses blossomed, under his feet!”

                  Here is what I say
                  Sharmini, I doubt you can find Educated Buddhist who believes that rubbish today in this information age. Exposure to science has ensured that. But you need to know what you criticise. Unfortunately your ignorance of the rubbish claims of supernatural events is also apparent. There is no such claim of Buddha walking at birth (please quote from any Buddhist text if you don’t agree). There is a claim, which of course is Rubbish, that baby Sidhartha walked after Birth. But your Hyperbole is that (even allowing for your error in thinking that Baby Sidhartha was indeed the Buddha) is the INCREDULOUS claim that the baby walked out of the mother’s womb!

                  In the above I have corrected Sharmini’s erroneous claim and have rejected the actual rubbish claim found in Buddhist texts.

                  So far so good, you are still not rolling on the floor.

                  Obviously you have not read my argument rebutting Sharmini’s complete essay.

                  When an ‘academically’ educated, and supposedly intelligent person, who sadly lacks in wisdom attempts a rebuttal after reading bits and pieces from here and there, without ever reading the rebuttal addressed to Sharmini, its inevitable that he makes a fool of himself and ends up rolling on the floor.

                  Perhaps you will be more careful next time.

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                    Ha,ha,ha…LOL

                    Keeping silent does not signify acceptance, it is the BEST way to deal with FOOLS. In this case you childish comments are being deliberately ignored. When nobody responds to your foolish comments, you have to understand that they are ignoring a stupid idiot.

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                      Dear James,

                      You say “Keeping silent does not signify acceptance, it is the BEST way to deal with FOOLS”

                      That would be true IF the original essay contained verifiable evidence and references. But unfortunately no evidence or references were provided.

                      Silence when asked for evidence signify that the claims have no foundation and are Concocted Lies that will not stand critical scrutiny. But the Fools believe otherwise.

                      There are Truths that I have acknowledged and needs no evidence. Then there is a large amount of unsubstantiated material which unless substantiated would be CONCOCTED LIES. But Fools think anything can be written and left Unsubstantiated. Sharmini’s Gospel is untouchable!

                      Fools think SILENCE in the face of probing questions is Proof of Truth.

                      She says she knows of “Academically Educated and supposedly intelligent Sinhala Buddhists falling short on Wisdom” visiting Mosques for solace but non can be named because non exists.

                      The Quran contradicts her and exposes her Lies.
                      Islam is not Benevolent towards UNBELIEVERS and a Buddhist is an unbeliever until Islam is embraced. In which case, they are no longer even nominally Buddhists.

                      “You will put them to death or you will make them suffer the torture of the cross; you will cut their hands and their feet alternately. They will be driven from the country” (Sura 5:33)

                      “To Allah, there are no animals viler than those who do not believe and remain unbelievers” (Sura 8:55)

                      “Do not display cowardice, and do not call the infidels to peace when you are superior to them” (Sura 47:35).

                      Those who reject (Truth) among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will abide in hell-fire, they are the worst of creatures. (Sura 98:6)

                      The “Academically Educated and supposedly intelligent Sinhala Buddhists falling short on Wisdom” is her Straw man. The Ventriloquist’s Dummy that she uses to articulate from. But the Fools think it’s the dummy that does the talking.

                      You say “In this case you childish comments are being deliberately ignored.”

                      What is ignored is ALL comments including yours. Perhaps your Myopia does not allow such an observation. Please search the comments and link ANY comment that she has responded to.

                      I have not come across any self respecting Author/Authoress who has behaved in this manner. All of them clarify their thinking and provide references.

                      You say “When nobody responds to your foolish comments, you have to understand that they are ignoring a stupid idiot.”

                      Well many responded including you but that was to intimidate and Silence Criticism. The uncouth Mafia has been spewing vituperative abuse at everyone who opposed and questioned this slanderous essay of Sharmini’s. Abuse instead of logical argument has been the name of the game. You seem to be no different.

                      I am sure like them, you will also fall silent when your intimidatory tactics fail, as you don’t have any other answer.

                      Wish you a Prosperous and Enlightening 2014.

                      Best Regards,

                      OTC

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        Hey Off the Cuff, you should have called yourself ‘Off my Rocker’ that would have been more appropriate. Unless your brain is hanging from your cuff.

        What a hollow and superficial argument you have put forth.

        Reading your long gibberish only goes to show, that you have not understood this article at all. Or else you wouldn’t be making such ignorant and stupid comments.

        i.e.

        ” Let’s see what the other religions have that are incredulous”

        You are comparing Buddhism with (other?) religions. For you, it appears Buddhism is yet another religion like Christianity, Islam, Hinduism etc.

        By attempting to insult the writer, you have only ended up showing yourself off as the fool.

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          Dear Goofy,

          Thank you for responding and advice about a new pseudonym for me. But I wish to keep my own as it was chosen with the purpose of separating a serious contributor from a Goof. The serious contributor would have been more concerned with what I have written than my pseudonym. But then thank you again for the advice. However I don’t think you need to change yours.

          You say “What a hollow and superficial argument you have put forth.”

          If it is hollow and superficial you should have no difficulty in rebutting it. So please try. You are not doing well so far! Sharmini the Author has been unable to defend her essay with a single word, perhaps you would be better at it in your next response.

          You say “Reading your long gibberish only goes to show, that you have not understood this article at all. Or else you wouldn’t be making such ignorant and stupid comments”

          Hmm that’s a good observation about the length I mean, one does not need intelligence and wisdom (that Sharmini writes about) to do that. Perhaps had I attacked the Sinhala Buddhists with concocted and unsupported gibberish like Sharmini’s lengthy essay had, you certainly would not have noticed the length since you did not notice it in Sharmini’s!

          Regarding understanding Sharmini the best person to pass judgement is Sharmini herself. But she is awfully quite isn’t she?

          You say “You are comparing Buddhism with (other?) religions. For you, it appears Buddhism is yet another religion like Christianity, Islam, Hinduism etc.”

          I think it is foolish to compare Buddhism with itself. It’s like trying to compare your nose with it’s reflection in a mirror. Since both are identical no comparison is possible.

          But Sharmini’s essay delves mostly on this new religion, that she calls Mahavamsa-Buddhism revealed to her by “God Buddha” and eagerly followed by her Bandwagon of imbeciles who become offended when questions are asked about their unsupported claims. I am comparing that with other Creator God religions, Please don’t get confused.

          For more information on that subject please read the comment above at this link. https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/mahavamsa-an-insult-to-the-buddha/#comment-825848

          You say “By attempting to insult the writer, you have only ended up showing yourself off as the fool”

          I was not insulting her but I definitely was questioning her to bring her down to Earth from where ever she is. Have you not noticed her deafening SILENCE to questions raised by commentators? Perhaps she is wise enough to leave the barking to the opportunists who want to bash Buddhism and/or the Sinhalese.

          She has lit the match and is now enjoying the wild fire that is raging.

          I do hope you can do what Sharmini couldn’t and produce an argument that we all can enjoy. Support the assertions made with facts, instead of wild unsupported innuendo and slander.

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            Off the Rocker/Cuff,

            I just read Mahadana Muththa Jnr’s reply to your stupid comment above.

            I thoroughly enjoyed it, hope you do too ;-)

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              Dear Goofy,

              I always enjoy a good argument even if I lose. But Mahadenamuttha Jr did not produce one. You can read my response here https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/mahavamsa-an-insult-to-the-buddha/#comment-826751

              But why worry about Mahadenemuttha when you have not replied what I addressed to you. Why don’t you try to produce a argument that surpasses Mahadenemuttha jr?

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                Cuff,

                Sorry to disappoint you mate, but I totally agree with MM (Jnr).

                It’s very obvious to most of us on this thread, that you have misinterpreted Sharmini’s brilliant piece of writing, though you refuse to accept it.

                I too love a good argument, but unfortunately not with someone with your low level of intelligence.

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                  Dear Goofy,

                  You did not disappoint me Goof.
                  I knew from the way you started, you didn’t have the capacity to make a coherent argument.

                  You say “It’s very obvious to most of us on this thread, that you have misinterpreted Sharmini’s brilliant piece of writing, though you refuse to accept it.”

                  As I noted before, Sharmini has completely hoodwinked you because you are not equipped with the skill to recognise that she is an expert Ventriloquist.

                  The dummy she uses is a Nameless and Faceless “Academically Educated and supposedly intelligent Sinhala Buddhists falling short on Wisdom”

                  To you Sharmini is brilliant because she writes what you want to hear. To me She is Cunning because I see her without her Mask.
                  If ever she decides to contest what I have written, you will see who is right.

                  But Cunning fiction writer’s will not be that brave.

                  You say “I too love a good argument, but unfortunately not with someone with your low level of intelligence”

                  Mere statements and expletives that you have been making from the time you decided to engage me (rather intimidate me into silence) and your inability to make a compelling argument proves who is what.

                  But go ahead and massage your Ego while making a meek exit.

                  Wishing you a Prosperous and enlightening 2014

                  Best Regards,
                  OTC

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            This ‘Off the Cuff’ fellow who dropped out of nowhere on this thread is none other than Kirthi Jayasekera who has decided to hide behind a pseudonym a bit late in the day, after the Psychologist diagnosed him as a schizophrenic.

            Schizophrenics are known to have multiple personalities.

            Kirthi Jayasekera’s brand of stupidity is so unique it’s his signature.

            The same goes for Sach a.k.a. Leela the transvestite.

            No matter how often they change their pseudonyms, they are transparent as glass.

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              Dear Kattakarawala,

              Your eyes must be tired from gazing in to your Crystal ball for too long. Please give them some rest lest you continue to see things.

              You say “This ‘Off the Cuff’ fellow who dropped out of nowhere on this thread is none other than Kirthi Jayasekera who has decided to hide behind a pseudonym a bit late in the day”

              Is Kattakarawala your first name, middle name or Surname? I was under the impression that it was a pseudonym! Sorry my mistake.

              BTW are you an employee of CT or one of it’s owners?
              Hope you did not drop in from nowhere.
              I suppose civility is not one of your strong points.

              Are you an educated Buddhist with wisdom or an an educated Buddhist without wisdom (that Sharmini alludes to) or an uncouth Buddhist of the BBS kind or simply an uneducated Buddhist?

              If you want to test me you can do that by presenting a counter argument to my response to Sharmini here https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/mahavamsa-an-insult-to-the-buddha/#comment-824840

              Intimidatory tactics will have no affect.

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                Since you are new to CT you will not know that I’ve been around here a very long time.

                “Is Kattakarawala your first name, middle name or Surname? I was under the impression that it was a pseudonym! Sorry my mistake.”

                Isn’t that rich coming from you, unless your parents didn’t know what to name you at birth?

                Since you have not denied your real identity is Kirthi Jayasekera,
                I’m convinced you are both one and the same. But you may not realise it since schizophrenics have multiple personalities and one doesn’t know what the other is saying or doing.

                Regarding my education, let me assure you mate, that going by your comments, I’m far more educated than you and wiser too.

                I don’t want to waste my time presenting a counter argument to your ridiculously stupid and idiotic arguments.

                But thank you for the invitation.

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                  Dear Kattakarawala,

                  You say “Since you are new to CT you will not know that I’ve been around here a very long time”

                  I will take your word for that.
                  Unfortunately even spending such a long time on CT has not taught you any civility. Here is the meaning of a Sinhalese saying that’s appropriate to such behaviour,

                  “Heredity is subordinate to Practice”

                  Just because I am new to CT don’t think you can intimidate me.
                  I am not intimidated by third grade Mafia Tactics.

                  You have already forgotten how you started off with your engagement with me.

                  You said “This ‘Off the Cuff’ fellow who dropped out of nowhere on this thread is none other than Kirthi Jayasekera who has decided to hide behind a pseudonym a bit late in the day, after the Psychologist diagnosed him as a schizophrenic”

                  Yours was an arrogant and intimidatory comment.
                  You referred to my pseudonym while you were using one.
                  You said you new who I am which you couldn’t have unless you had access to private data submitted to CT or you are carrying around a know all crystal ball on your person!

                  You said ” Isn’t that rich coming from you, unless your parents didn’t know what to name you at birth?”

                  No, as the foregoing proves, it was an appropriately measured response, to your arrogant intimidatory comment.

                  BTW my parents did not chose my pseudonym, I did. It was meant to be a magnet to sieve out the intelligent from the less intelligent. It has done a great job for about 6 years.

                  You say “Regarding my education, let me assure you mate, that going by your comments, I’m far more educated than you and wiser too”

                  An Empty vessel makes the Loudest noise.
                  You first comment to me had a Fortune Teller, a Psychologist, a schizophrenic, a transvestite, an ignoramus, and an arrogant bully rolled in to one.

                  You say “I don’t want to waste my time presenting a counter argument to your ridiculously stupid and idiotic arguments”

                  You have already wasted your time writing two comments attempting to Bully me. It would have been better spent demolishing my reply to Sharmini, J Mutthu and Adam because non of them has been able to do so. Two others tried and back peddled. You did not even try despite your braggadocio.

                  Your meek withdrawal reminds me of the Fox who could not reach the grapes even with repeated jumps. But you are welcome to massage your wounded Ego if that rings some solace to you.

                  No hard feelings friend.
                  Have a prosperous and enlightening 2014.

                  Best Regards
                  OTC

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              Off the Cuff may not be well know on CT circles but he is an ever present contributor on the Groundviews. I will not say very much as I want the contributors here to form their own opinion about him objectively.

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                Dear Burning Issue,

                The few who tried engaging with me are incapable of being objective. Every one of them thought intimidation is the best way to respond to difficult questions.

                I am not here to win a popularity contest.
                I am here because a certain contributor to GV used Sharmini’s previous expose of Cast Issues in an attempt to counter what I write. My comment to Sharmini can be found here
                https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/sri-lanka-has-a-2600-year-old-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-819568

                I base my posts on the TRUTH and strive to provide references. I will have no hesitation in apologising to anyone who proves what I have written is untrue.

                If I took Sharmini’s side I would have been praised by me detractors but I chose the Truth and not False propaganda.

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        This Off the Cuff looks like a Cut & Paste expert. I do not think anyone (not a single person) would have read his very long rubbish that he has Cut & Pasted here. What a waste of cyber space.

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          Dear Prasad,

          You say “This Off the Cuff looks like a Cut & Paste expert. I do not think anyone (not a single person) would have read his very long rubbish that he has Cut & Pasted here.”

          I am sure you wont be able to comprehend what I addressed to Ms Serasinghe. Small minds can’t process so much information. I know it would have helped had I done what Sharmini did but I chose not to use slander and innuendo and write what I can prove. I am no Ventriloquist like Sharmini. Sorry about that.

          Perhaps you should begin with the two small ones addressed to you. They have been waiting for your comment since the 27th. Would you like me to copy and paste it here? It’s sooooooo boring to retype!

          Remember what empty vessels do? They make a lot of noise and hardly anything else.

          Have fun and a great 2014

          Best Regards
          OTC

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        Off the cuff

        Do not get confused, Shamini is not talking about the Tamil or Sinhala caste sysyem here, she is talking about the caste among the Buddhist monks.

        In Sri Lanka the Malwathu and Asgiri Chapters are from the Siyam Nikaya (Thailand) established in the upcountry (Kandy) during the 18th century to ordain the novices from people of the Govigama caste. Amarapura Nikaya (from Burma) was established in the early 19th century by the people of lower castes who were unhappy with the above practice. The Ramanna Nikaya is a breakaway group from the Amarapura Nikaya, established in the late 19th century, as a result of disputes over some points in the doctrine. SinhalaBuddhism is something that was invented in Sri Lanka in the 19th century by Anagarika Dharmapala. It is not pure Theravada Buddhism but a sect where the Mahavamsa myth is also included.

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          Dear James,

          You say “Do not get confused, Shamini is not talking about the Tamil or Sinhala caste sysyem here, she is talking about the caste among the Buddhist monks. ”

          Yes she has BLACKED out the other Cast systems operative in Lanka (does not suit her theme) and I have filled that gap. But she is quick to say that Buddhist even go to Mosques in order to exaggerate her theme. A Muslim reader made an observation to which I replied quoting the Quran.

          “To Allah, there are no animals viler than those who do not believe and remain unbelievers” (Sura 8:55)

          “You will put them to death or you will make them suffer the torture of the cross; you will cut their hands and their feet alternately. They will be driven from the country” (Sura 5:33)

          “Do not display cowardice, and do not call the infidels to peace when you are superior to them” (Sura 47:35).

          Those who reject (Truth) among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will abide in hell-fire, they are the worst of creatures. (Sura 98:6)

          Are you that naive to believe Sharmini’s claim, re Mosques and Buddhists?

          Sharmini is clever and she has an excellent command of English and I have acknowledged that in my very first post. Unfortunately the fabric she weaves have some truths and a higher dose of untruths and fabrications. That’s her cunning side.

          You need to read my comments to Sharmini and the Mafia, to understand who is confused. But I can see that some are rattled by what I have brought to the notice of the CT readership about Cast system’s of Sri Lanka.

          Compared to the Hindu system of depravity and slavery practised in the name of Cast, even the irrational and unBuddhistic cast system of the Sangha pales into insignificance.

          If Sharmini or anyone else wants to discuss cast lets discuss all of it, not just what suits the narrow theme of attacking Buddhist while hiding behind Nameless and Faceless Dummies. In the North there are Christian Churches segregated by Hindu Cast. Dispense with Ventriloquism and provide verifiable evidence.

          No one, not even Sharmini and her choir, has been able to put a Name and a Face to those elusive “Academically Educated and supposedly intelligent Sinhala Buddhists falling short on Wisdom”

          Can you do that please?

          You have given an explanatory write up about the Caste system amongst the Buddhist Sangha. It would carry weight if you provided an authoritative reference which you have failed to do.

          I won’t defend any cast system, but Why only Buddhist monks?
          How about the cast system amongst the Hindu clergy?
          Only a BRAHMIN amongst the multitude of Hindu casts can be a Hindu Priest. Did you know that? At least there are Low Cast Buddhist Priests in Lanka can you find a SINGLE Low Cast Hindu Priest? When it come to Lay Buddhists they give the same respect to any Buddhist Priest irrespective of Cast (read about the Alms giving at Sharmini’s ancestral home if you need evidence literally from the Horses Mouth…sorry Mare in this case). You won’t have that in a Hindu Society because the Hindu Priests are ONLY from the HIGHEST Cast, the BRAHMINS.

          Oh what a tangled web we weave when we first start to deceive!

          Wish you a Prosperous and enlightening 2014

          Best Regards
          OTC

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            A simple answer to your long and irelavant ranting and raving, Shamini’s this particular article is ONLY about Sinhala-Buddhists and their Monks.

            When she decides to write about other religions and races you can give all these but it is not at all relevant to this article. Here your rebuttal should be based on the topic/theme that she has selected.

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              Dear James,

              You say “A simple answer to your long and irelavant ranting and raving,…”

              Unlike Sharmini, and her supporters, I don’t Rant and Rave.
              I present verifiable facts to counter Slanderous Lies.

              My post to you above questions Sharmini’s claim of “Academically Educated and supposedly intelligent Sinhala Buddhists falling short on Wisdom” visiting Mosques for solace. You have totally avoided addressing it. Is it because it is irrelevant or because you have no answer?

              The Quran wants unbelievers put to death tortured and their limbs amputated and Sharmini claims they are accepted in Islam. Incredulous!

              There are many other’s just like the one above, that you, Sharmini and the Mafia avoids like the plague!

              You say “Shamini’s this particular article is ONLY about Sinhala-Buddhists and their Monks.”

              Your Myopia again.
              This is about her invention of “Mahavamsa Sinhala Buddhists” and the “Mahavamsa Sinhala Buddhist Monks”. May be at a future date she may morph towards attacking ALL Buddhists.

              When a writer brings in Religion you can’t limit it to a particular area in order to attack it. The opposition is within their rights to bring in all religions to the discussion in order to bring the critique into perspective. Viz if you write criticising animal sacrifice of Muslims, I can point out the animal sacrifice of Hindu’s. You cannot take cover stating that you were writing ONLY about Muslim practises and not Hindu practises.

              The same logic applies to Cast.

              Perhaps you are a Tamil Hindu who wants the inhuman Cast practises of Tamils under wraps. Perhaps you are a Tamil Christian who wants to keep the Northern Christian Church’s cast practises secret while you continue to attack the Sinhalese and the Buddhists. But when you open a can of worms ALL of them crawl out.

              You say “When she decides to write about other religions and races you can give all these but it is not at all relevant to this article”

              As stated above everything that puts Cast and Religion in to the proper perspective is relevant.

              You say “Here your rebuttal should be based on the topic/theme that she has selected.”

              As stated above once you start a Snowball you have no control over it.

              But try to justify and re establish what Sharmini has written that I have shown to be Fabricated.

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                Cuff,

                You have now proved beyond all reasonable doubt, that you are stark raving mad.

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                  Dear Kattakarawala,

                  The inmates of a mental hospital says their doctors are insane.

                  A search of CT will show that you employ Strong Arm Mafia tactics instead of Rational Civil Debate against all who do not agree with you.

                  Who is stark raving mad is easy to see!

                  Kind Regards
                  OTC

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    Brilliant expose of the Mahavansa fable. As a Sinhala Buddhist I never believed in this nonsensical story of the origins of the Sinhala race and our Sinhala Buddhist religious practices.As s cientist I rather believe in Dawkins theories of life and its origins than listen to all the fraudulent Bana deshanas preached by ill educated men in yellow robes.

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      Dear Sharmini Serasinghe –

      Thank you.

      “Wonder if ours might have been a wiser, and a more ‘humane’ society, had our ‘ancient’ history, been based on Aesop’s Fables, instead of the Mahavamsa. For if not for the Mahavamsa, the Sinhalese may not have been endowed, with the reputation, of “Sinhalaya Modaya (The Sinhalese are Fools)”!”

      ……Mahavamsa Lies and Deceit

      “Perhaps nowhere in the world, might one find, this strange practice of Buddhism, other than by most Sinhalese; for it is neither a religion nor a philosophy. It is a unique ‘culture’, passed off as Buddhism, in Sri Lanka!.”…………………….

      ABSOLUTELY! Well Articulated. Excellent. Factual.

      Who says ALL the Sinhalyas are Modayas, but the majority who are “Modays” (Fools) are brainwashed at School and at “Daham Pasela”( Buddhist Sunday School). What does Buddhism as a Philosophy have in common to with Monk Mahanama’s IMAGIMATIONS, of Vijaya’s grandfather being a LION (how many chromosomes?) and grandmother being human and from Bihar-Orissa (46 chromosmes) to do with facts. These are all fables, brainwashed into Sinhala Buddhist Children, believed when they grow up, and has nothing to do with Buddhism? in the 5th Century CE, Monk Mahanama’d biology know was poor, like everybody else’s and there no realty check for these imaginations. Did Colonel Olcott believe this Monk Mahanama fables?………….

      “In this “wonderland” called Sri Lanka, and in this day and age, one still comes across ‘academically’ educated, and supposedly intelligent ‘Buddhists’, but sadly lacking in wisdom, who reverently believe, that the Buddha walked out of his mother’s womb, and walked seven steps, while lotuses blossomed, under his feet!”

      THIS IS Called BRAINWASHING, done from an early age, and they cannot let go of it. When one is brainwashed in RELIGION and RACISM, as has happened in Sri LANKA, it POISONS EVERYTHING………………….

      Religion poisons everything and allows for Monk, Priest, Mullah etc. Hegemony.

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        Correction

        These are all fables, brainwashed into Sinhala Buddhist Children, believed when they grow up, and has nothing to do with Buddhism. In the 5th Century CE, Monk Mahanama’d biology knowledge was poor, like everybody else’s at that time, and there was no realty check for these imaginations. Did Colonel Olcott believe this Monk Mahanama fables?………

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          Amarasiri, Perhaps this might light up something.

          Homers Iliad and the Odyssey is a part copy of Mahabharata .
          Alexander the Great and his men copied it.
          The Indian campaign of Alexander the Great began in 326 BC.
          He captured todays Pakistan but not the Hindu.
          Alexander the Macedonian, after conquering all Asia, did not make war upon the Gangaridai, as he did on all others; for when he had arrived with all his troops at the river Ganges, he abandoned as hopeless an invasion of the Gangaridai when he learned that they possessed four thousand elephants well trained and equipped for war.[11] His men violently opposed Alexander when he insisted on crossing the river Ganges also, the width of which, as they learned, was thirty-two furlongs, its depth a hundred fathoms, while its banks on the further side were covered with multitudes of men-at-arms and horsemen and elephants. For they were told that the kings of the Ganderites and Praesii were awaiting them with eighty thousand horsemen, two hundred thousand footmen, eight thousand chariots, and six thousand fighting elephants.[10]
          Alexander died in Babylon on June 13, 323 BC. In 321 BC, two years after Alexander’s death, Chandragupta Maurya of Magadha, founded the Maurya Empire in India.
          __________________
          now for the canny part of sinhala buddhist monk/ portugese cinnamon peelers (1505 Francisco de Almedia Vicory of India) who hid in the jungles.

          Even the Indian authors don’t talk Sinhala Buddhist rubbish.

          As per Sri Lanka history Mahavamsa, written around 400 AD by the monk Mahanama, using the Dipavamsa and Sinhala Attakatha as sources, correlates well with Indian histories of the period.Prince Vijaya (Sinhala:විජය කුමරු) was the first recorded King of Sri Lanka mentioned in the ancient Sri Lankan Pali chronicles. His reign is traditionally dated to 543 BC – 505 BC.[2] The primary source for his life-story is the Mahavamsa.
          VIJAYA WAS A BANDIT KNOWN TO INDIAN HISTORIANS

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            JAVI THE JARDY

            Vijaya may be a bandit but your National Hero Podian Preba is a mass murder, bank robber, credit card robber, international law breaker, child killer, and the list go on……………………

            Do you have any comments on your beloved leader???? Please do not f**k around here criticising the unknown history. This is the biggest problem with racist Tamils like you. Never learn from the past and correct yourself.

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              “|”your National Hero Podian Preba is a mass murder,”|”

              Who is? Who is?? You create an animal for self
              Sinhala Cuss Buddhist then you eat it & now you want
              to see that which does not exist- n o wonder we are
              waiting for you to have a wash.Phew!!

              I neither beg nor borrow Bees and Honey.

              Everything always belongs to us NSEW as it was always and you
              the aluth kolaba malasaniya de pakke??

              Mahawamse is Codswallop,

              Mahawamse is Poppycock,

              Mahawamse is Stick that up your Khyber.
              。◕‿◕。 0-0 ☻ o-o ◕‿◕

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                Javi the shit eating pig, writes nonsense, look hurt reading ur hero Sun Goat VP’s name. What a shame for Tamil Diaspora terrorists ??

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                  “|”Javi the shit eating pig,”|”

                  Surely the southern `cum` buddhist pig has eaten your bollocks pronto!
                  Ha ha ha.

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                  Johnny

                  Don’t you love bacon rinds?

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              This is the nature of a real sinhala Buddhist.your free expressions are not allowed.If commented against you are ruined.

              Suwapath wewa!

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                We don’t have to have a bull about it!! ~k゜・_・゜k~ 

                Toadstool, rings bells??

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        Amarasiri, even Karl Marx the Hero of all Socialists, called “Religion, the Opium (Opiate) of the Masses”. BBS and their associates even use the Real Thing to bring the People under their control!

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          Same applies to church, mosque and kovil, in a more dangerous way buddhism ever did or doesthe

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            sach

            “Same applies to church, mosque and kovil, in a more dangerous way buddhism ever did or doesthe”.

            Does taking religious opium make one to attain enlightenment and nirvana, both at the same time?

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              so are u saying buddhism is superior to all others

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        Mr. Amarasiri!
        My view is that almost all the people across the globe are brainwashed by religions.For instance, take Christianity and and Islam.The Christians believe that everything , animate and inanimate, in the universe was created by their God and Muslims believe it was Allah who created everything in the universe.Though science has proved otherwise the majority do not believe it.Christians want to go to the heaven after death and Muslims want to go to the Paradise after their death to drink, eat, do sex with many and live comfortably. Nobody has seen the God or this Allah or heaven or paradise.Buddhist also want to go to heaven after death to enjoy food and drinks and live happily there with goddesses.
        But I wish to say that unless the hoi polloi believe that there is a heaven and a hell our planet would be the real hell where everybody kills everybody for the slightest thing.

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      Kapila,

      That is your right. Go and worship science. The way you pass judgements on people tells me you know nothing about science either.

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        hela

        “The way you pass judgements on people tells me you know nothing about science either.”

        Judgement may be right or wrong.

        Intentions should always be questioned.

        In your case I don’t question your judgment and am sure you get it wrong all the time. It does not bother me at all.

        What bothers me is your intentions, your ulterior motives and your hidden agenda.

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          NV,

          I know my intentions bother you and many other predators.

          However, though you don’t have the capacity to understand, my judgements have come out right more than 90% of the time ( I have got some wrong too).

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            Hela

            “I know my intentions bother you and many other predators.”

            It bothers not just me it should bother any sane people of this island with an iota of wisdom.

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      Great scientist

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    The following is more suitable for the broad-minded and the wise. Others are kindly advised to pass!

    In short those of you who disagree with a wise and broad-minded me are fools…

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      Paul,

      “In short those of you who disagree with a wise and broad-minded me are fools”

      Looks like some of these fools, “Modayas”, will do things even a sheep or even a foolish sheep would do, such as given below, provide “Indulgences” to the High Priests, described below.

      “Then, there is the ‘Dalada Maligawe’ in Kandy; most Buddhists believe, the tooth relic housed within, belonged to the Buddha. Some adorn the ‘tooth casket’ with mounds of gold jewelry, fervently believing, that they would earn merit, to the value of the gold they offer. The thought of donating the value of this gold, to feed and help, the poor, sick and the needy, that would be far more meritorious, never cross their minds!”

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      Dont say that. This lady is a veery intelligent woman. She will assure you.
      Between i dont think many here read your comment carefully, otherwise you wont have 11 likes :)

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        Aney…. Aney….Aney…
        Moda putha……
        The count will soon exceed 200 likes.

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          Wimal_Modawansa

          You have just confirmed who you are.

          “Aney…. Aney….Aney… Moda putha……”

          Sach is a female.

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        Sach,
        Aney … Aney…… Aney……..Moda P…….
        The likes will exceed 1000 very soon.
        You better return to your former job of dancing to the tunes of pol-tikkos.

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      Just what I thought on seeing that Sentence!!
      But I just decided to pass Since Iam simple & rather silly , a little bit nonsensical, i came straight to the comments section to say,
      how fortunate of me to be simple minded & silly .

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      She is not insulting any body as fools, she is only advising the Sinhala-Buddhists to come out of their ignorant and also appealing to the Sinhala leaders to educate the people to differentiate between Myths and facts. Let us not misunderstand her message, it is a good article for rational minded people to think, once again thanks CT for publishing it.

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        who is she to do thatho

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          For people like sach ignorance is bliss.

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            At least i know what caste buddha come from. I have debunked many of her claims which doesnt go along with her title as well. Lets see if sharmini will respond.

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    Well done Sharmini. Very interesting and thought provoking. Certainly warrants a read to every Sri Lankan.

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    Thank you.

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    Sharmini Serasinghe,

    You hit the nail on the head:

    All the ills of the Sinhala Buddhist chauvinism springs from the racist monk Mahanama and his Mahavamsa. Hope the Sinhalese people realize this before it is too late.

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      Could you tell us if there is a parallel to this on the Hindu Tamil side?

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        Who cares about what is taught in Hinduism? You are free to study Hinduism if you have a desire to learn and true Buddhism encourages it.The whole article is about what the Buddha taught and how we have deviated from the truth. In fact if anyone is interested about exactly ‘WHAT THE BUDDHA TAUGHT’ there is an excellent book by Ven. Dr. Walpola Rahula under this heading.

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          I must add the book ‘WHAT THE BUDDHA TAUGHT’ by Ven. Dr. Walpola Rahula can be downloaded free if you do a Google search. It has been translated in to many languages.

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            Oi,that trick is taughtable!!

            Ha ha ha,
            Ha ha ha,
            (^o^)

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              “☻/
              /▌
              / \
              Like the end of the rainbow we had Kotalawala (pol gaha yata) Polae walle!! Ha ha ha! Pooh! It pens a bit in here. ಠ_ಠ ಠ_ಠ

              “”No written records about Gautama have been found from his lifetime or several centuries thereafter. The Gandhāran Buddhist texts, the oldest surviving Buddhist manuscripts, reported to have been found in or around Haḍḍa near Jalalabad in eastern Afghanistan and preserved in the British Library today, was written in the Kharoṣṭhī script and the Gāndhārī language on twenty-seven Birch barkscrolls from the first century BCE to the third century CE.””
              _________________

              Lumbini figures in Buddhist narratives about buddha’s conception and birth. UNESCO lists Lumbini, Nepal, as a world heritage site and birthplace of Gautama Buddha. The Japenese have further encroached and claim he died there too. Anyway the only earliest knowledge findings were in Afghanistan where alexander the Great waged war for 3 long years drawing carnage destroying everything to earth.

              “☻/
              /▌
              / \
              Nepal is the Hindu Kingdom and that is where he was born not in any new found singaylish fancy because the Fascist Japanese want it to be different.

              BTW you are a schedule class according to Dr Ambedkar that is your hatred?? Always remember Samsara and Stick that walle pota up your Khyber.

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            Walter,

            1. Yes, succinct. “What the Buddha Taught” is a good book, if one one wants to know what Buddhism is all about. (ISBN 955-9219-19-7)

            2. The Pali Tipitaka, is very large, and the condensed summary can be found in “Buddha and His Teachings” by Ven, Narada. ( ISBN 978-955-663-345-0)

            3. Another book, printed in 1916, well before the Sinhala Buddhist Mahawansa Racism surfaced in modern Lanka, is “Buddha and the Gospel of Buddhism” by Ananda K. Coomaraswamy,(ISBN 81-215-0096-6).

            There are many other books on Buddhism. All these writings collaborate what Ms.Shamani Serasinghe writes above, and if the Enlightened Buddha were to return and review Shamani’s “Term Paper” above, she will get a perfect 100%, and Monk Mahanama of Mahawamsa notoriety will fail very badly, with only 1%.

            There is no question Monk Mahanama of Mahawamsa is is the Maha Mara (Mara was opposing Buddha) of Buddhism and the curse of Lanka…………….

            Bali, Indonesia is 94% Hindu and peaceful. Lanka was originally Hindu, and the Buddhism was turned into a curse, Sinhala Buddhist Racism curse, by the Monk Mahanama, and we have 70% Sinhala Buddhists and Violence………..

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              what the buddha taught was written by walpola rahula thera. The same monk wrote a book on history of buddhism based on mahawamsa.

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                sach,

                1. Ven. Walpola Rahula, summarizing Buddhism based on the Tipitaka and pre-Monk Mahanama Buddhism and Imaginations is, all right, based that is what he had to go with to learn about Buddhism, uncontaminated by Monk Mahanama.

                2. In any case even the Pali Tipitaka was being memorized from the time of Buddha, and it was only at the Aluvihara Temple in Sri Lanka, the Pali Cannon was written down about 400 years later, because there were deviations in the Philosophy of the various Monks, in order to standardize the doctrine.

                3. If Ven. Dr. Walpola Rahula, had used Mahanama writings uncritically, then he was a Mahanama sucker, like many other Sinhala Mahanama Buddhists suckers. Many Philosophers have quoted Ptolemy and Aristotle in citing the Heliocentric model, until it was proven incorrect by Copernicus, Galileo and Kepler, based on newer evidence. This had happened to Galileo, Newton and Einstein as well, but being scientists they were more open to observations and reason, unlike those who follow a fixed religious dogma.

                DeJa Vu……

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                  Correction,

                  “Philosophers have quoted Ptolemy and Aristotle in citing the Heliocentric model, until it was proven incorrect by Copernicus, Galileo and Kepler, based on newer evidence. “

                  SHOULD READ

                  Philosophers have quoted Ptolemy and Aristotle in citing the GEOCENTRIC model, until it was proven incorrect by Copernicus, Galileo and Kepler, based on newer evidence for the HELIOCENTRIC MODEL.

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                  Walpola Rahula’s buddhist philosophical writing had no influence of Mahavamsa, it was only the Tripitaka he used. But still it is oned of the best and simplistic presentations on Buddhist Philosophy. He beautifully described how rituals came into being and how it is helping some buddhists.

                  He is undoubtedly a more knowledgable monk than you on Buddhism. The fact that he didnt mix buddhist philosophy and buddhist history in SL proves the fact buddhist monks and people are fully able to distiguish the two and that they do, unlike many claims here.

                  How doe you say any one reads and takes points from Mahavamsa is a sucker? Then all the historians are mahavamsa suckers, suckers on any historical documents. Even tough you have the desire to preach others, it seems commonsense and rationality is alien to you. I am not surprised by that.

                  Any book written in 5AD would give a lot of infore and would be a resource to understand the life at that time. Any book that old is a historical source. Even the graffiti in Sigiriya is a historical source. The speciality with Mahawamsa is it was written to record history. So this is a very important and a resourceful book in understanding history of SL and even india.

                  Stone inscriptions prove cliams of Mahavamsa. The reason Walpola Rahuls used mahawamsa because he cant write on history of buddhism in SL ignoring Mahawamsa. It is only idiots who would undermine the value and significance of mahavamsa.

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        there is no Sri Lankan version of Hinduism or Christian or Muslim….

        there is only one universal Bible, One universal quarn and one universal Hinduism ….there is no Sri Lankan version

        Sri Lanka Sinhala Buddhist is not universal Budhhism..

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          RajaH

          Universal Hinduism is to kill people that what your beloved leader blood sucking podian Preba practiced for 30 odd years? right???

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            That was not in the name of Religion, but against the oppression of Tamils and to counter the killing of Tamils by Sri Sinhala Buddhist.

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              RajahsH,

              Tamils were oppressed by Tamils not Sinhalese.

              If you want proof read https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/mahavamsa-an-insult-to-the-buddha/#comment-824840

              If you want more proof that can be given too.
              Here is a Tamil from the poor servile class (75% of Northern Tamil Population) who was Oppressed by the Tamil Land owning ruling class (25% of Tamil population).

              Quote
              I grew up in the Jaffna peninsula, then in Mannar after World War II, and later in Hatton and Colombo. …… Tamils were governed by aristocratic land-owning lawyers living in Colombo; they knew little Tamil. Their children went to Colombo schools, learnt French at the `Alliance Francaise’, German at the `Goethe Institute’, and had Sinhala private tutors. They knew just enough `inga-va’ Tamil to order their servants.

              The poor Tamils worked in the properties and homes of the upper-caste Tamils. We could not go in buses or attend school. Our very presence was ‘polluting’. When the buses were nationalized by SWRD, the CTB allowed anyone to travel in them. THAT angered the Tamil leaders. It was the Church that grudgingly opened doors very slightly to the oppressed Tamils by allowing them to learn English and read the Bible. In my young days I sat on the class-room floor or carried a low stool from class to class, as only the high castes could sit on chairs. The teachers treated me and another child like me as excreta and punished us for daring to be there. But, I thought that was the law – each had his station in life.

              When I moved to Hatton and later to Colombo, I found a very different world. It was a transforming experience for me and my wife to find that our workmates, mostly Sinhalese would actually sit with us and share a cup of tea. We found that we could go to night school and study without being threatened, beaten up, or go and borrow books, and do things that would bring swift retribution ‘back in the North’; our dwellings would have been torched and our women raped with impunity.
              unquote

              http://dbsjeyaraj.com/dbsj/archives/12770

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                Off the Cuff

                I see no difference between a Tamil stupid and a stupid Sinhalese as they share their genes with Tamilnadu Tamils.

                It should be treated as Tamil/Sinhalese oppression of Tamil/Sinhalese.

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                  Dear Native Veddha,

                  Sri Lanka has vibrant Blood and Eye Banks because there is no shortage of people who are prepared to donate their blood and eyes. This is due to the religiosity of the population. We even send eyes overseas.

                  Due to the Sinhala population of 75% the majority of blood in blood banks would be Sinhala. Due to near 70% of the population being Buddhists the major quantity of blood available would be from Sinhala Buddhist.

                  When a person is critically ill and is in need of blood for his survival no one questions the ethnic/religious origin of the blood.
                  A Pentecostal will refuse any blood and will prefer to die but we have never heard of anybody else irrespective of ethnicity/religiosity opting to die by refusing blood of unknown ethnicity/religiosity.

                  If so why this Sinhala Buddhist crap? It is stupid.
                  Critical analysis is fine as long as the criticism is based on Truth.
                  This thread is not about the Truth it is about Ventriloquism. Hiding behind a Faceless and Nameless Dummy to utter crass untruths. Challenges are not defended yet the gallery cheers!

                  Why can’t we Share Sri Lanka’s resources on equal terms as Singapore does?

                  I do not believe birth makes one superior or inferior.
                  I do not believe that man made divisions should deprive anyone of their birthright.

                  Wish you a prosperous and enlightening 2014

                  Best Regards
                  OTC

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          I believe Buddhism is a universal religon and cannot be limited to any race. Buddha was born in India whereas Buddhism spread throughout South and East Asia from Afgahnistan to Indonesia and Japan. Hence the premise that the Sinhalese people in Sri Lanka were bestowed a special status by the Buddha cannot be maintained.
          Today Sri Lanka has a special place as a bastian of Theravada Buddhism. What should be important is the practice of the principles and precepts laid down by the Buddha. No one can claim superiority simply on the basis of one’s race or language.

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      Unfortunately she was way off target

      “The Ceylon Tamils had no written document on the lines of the Mahavamsa to authenticate their singular and separate historical authority in Sri Lanka, a fact which Ceylon Tamil communalists found very irksome” (Communal Politics under the Donoughmore Constitution, Tissara Publishers, page 131 by the British historian Dr. Jane Russell).

      The Dutugamunu-Elara story was used by “Ceylon Tamil agitators as historical justification for the sense of grievance which they were so carefully nursing, and it was used to suggest that Sinhalese perfidy in the name of Sinhalese Buddhism would be the accepted practice in the future as well as in the past” (Russell, page 154).

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    A very rational analysis. I am not quite sure whether lord Buddha was born into a Brahmin family or whether he was from a Kshatriya family of rulers and warriors. It was indeed Brahminism that destroyed Buddhism in India. Further I have been baffled by the question of a Buddhist being reborn when Buddhism does not believe in a soul for a life is made up of the elements. Sorry for the colossal ignorance. Bensen

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      “|”It was indeed Brahminism that destroyed Buddhism in India.”|”
      _________________

      That is what I would call political correctness gone wild in exuberance.

      Read the conquest of Baharat by Alexander the Great 326BC. When he went berserk he destroyed everything on site to ground zero along with the folk-North West where Fatehpur Sikri, Mohenjo-daro, Harappa, mainly present day Punjab both Pak and Ind sections Afghanistan, too where the oldest finding was as at the British Museum. All wars are economic in nature even today so what did they take???

      Next from 1502 the Mongols, then Mongols/ Mughals destroyed the north of Hindu, Buddhist, Jain. Can you expect a priest or scholar mind another philosophy when they are under siege??
      Have you been able to stop the demolition of temples in the north?? Blame the Brahmin why not because you cannot be bothered to read another hardworking sector you were not born by chance isn’t it so burner?? It’s the same as blaming the hardworking intelligent Jewish folk for being where it matters in the media, finance etc.

      Read the history of Baharat and the conquest till the partition before you say some other shit to another sector.

      India and Indians have a hardened experience of losses that aren’t measurable.
      You got to see it in their boots the same way I am able to see your possessive north/east and NSEW because I lived there too for donkeys years.

      Buddhism is the only faith/philosophy that is respected by the Chinese party because it is Asian nostalgia and Loyang is still the largest on earth 100k statutes carved on both sides of the hill. It strengthens them to be objective even if it was Hinduism/Jainism.

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    Food for thought from an academic / an intellectual .

    first, I am a Buddhist, with my honest willingness to accommodate follow, only the LORD Buddha’s philosophy.

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      Buddha wasn’t a lord, he himself expressly stated he was just a man and not to worship him as a god.

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      JULAMPITIYE AMARAYA

      “to accommodate follow, only the LORD Buddha’s philosophy.”

      1. Buddha was no Lord, only a Philosopher.

      2. The Monks, especially Monk Mahanama and others distorted his teachings in Sri Lanka.

      3. The Sinhala Buddhism as practiced in Sri Lanka will not be recognized by the Enlightened one, if he were to return and access the current situation in Sri Lanka. He will reaffirm Ms. Shamani Serasingha’s writing. He will be ashamed about the bastardization of his teachings in his name and all the images and trees that are being worshiped.

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      Amaraya

      Hahahahahah. “I am a buddist”. The statement of the era!!!!!!!!!!!! what a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

      You are not a Buddhist – “You are a Bullshit”.

      The evidence is everywhere on your comments in the Colomob Telegraph for last few years.

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        Maratoni Makalga and Avatars,

        “You are not a Buddhist – “You are a Bullshit”.”

        Correction:

        Amarasiri is an Egalitarian. You will have to put up with the Eternal Amarasiri; Amara(Sanksrit-Ethernal).

        Most Sinhala Buddhists are not Buddhists, they are Monk Mahanama Buddhists or Monk Maghanama Racists, they do not follow the True Teachings of Buddha, and distort Buddhism for Racism.

        How come, after 2300 years, there are hardly any Tamil Buddhists in Sri Lanks despite the fact that Buddhism is a more Egalitarian belief than the caste ridden Hinduism?

        In India, almost every State has a few percent Buddhists. What percentage of Tamils in Sri Lanka are Buddhists? 0.00000001%?

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          ” How come, after 2300 years, there are hardly any Tamil Buddhists in Sri Lanks despite the fact that Buddhism is a more Egalitarian belief than the caste ridden Hinduism? “

          I think the reason is that Tamil Buddhists became Sinhalized. Highly probable considering the phenotypic similarity between the 2 communities.

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            Palmsquirrell

            According 1871 Census 12,000 card carrying Tamil Buddhists lived through out the island.

            My Elders have the excel spreadsheet to prove it.

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              Native Vedda,

              “According 1871 Census 12,000 card carrying Tamil Buddhists lived through out the island. “

              So, the advent of Modern Monk Mahanama Sinhala Buddhist Racism, promoted by the Sinhala Buddhist Racist, the so called Anagarika Dharmapala, originally known as Don David Hewavitharane, Born September 17, 1864 in Colombo, decimated this number of 12,000 card carrying Tamil Buddhists.

              What was the number in 1900, 1950, 1975, 2000 and 2010? Just curious!

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                Amarasiri

                “What was the number in 1900, 1950, 1975, 2000 and 2010? Just curious!”

                I may have to request my Elders to look into your question. Let me have some time.

                Please note Census have been carried out every first year of the decade, 1871, 1881,1891, …………1981,……

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            The principle reason for no more Tamil Buddhists in Sri Lanka is that the Chola invasions. Once Hindu based kingdom had been established over a period of time, some Sinhala became Hindus and Tamils and vice versa with the Tamil Buddhists becoming Sinhala.

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    Gosh what display of self-loathing! There are some things valid critisims here. Others simply bourne out of ignorance.

    My home town is Galle too. Its strange when the experenices are polar opposite. But its all good though. This kind of stuff will keep Buddhists grounded. Thanks for sharing!

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        I honestly think this woman has had some psychological problem

        [Edited out]

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          Unfortunately my comment is removed, really we must sympathize her, as she has got totally confused.you are correct.

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            @ Vibhushana & Kirthi,

            People like you are so thoroughly brainwashed by the Mahavamsa, that when a writer like Sharmini points out the reality, you think she’s confused,depressed etc.

            You guys need to feel sorry for yourselves, because your frog-in-a-well attitude, will only lead to your own, personal destruction and of those around you.

            People like you are like a cancer to this country and its people.

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              We need to understand the position Vibhushana & Kirthi have taken. When you are brainwashed by a doctrine from childhood, unless you have the courage to stop and think it is almost impossible to think without the blinkers. This is true not only with people who follow distorted Buddhism (to the detriment of the great teachings)but also those who have been indoctrinated by religions such as Christianity. I am stating this from my personal experience as a former Christian. Equally true is the fact that once you discover the truth it is impossible to go back to what you have been following.

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                You are talking of suddas Buddhism.

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                  Now Kirthi, tell me what is the Suddha’s Buddhism? that you are talking about? Is it a different Buddhism to ‘What the Buddha Taught’? Please explain.

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                    Ok suddas Buddhism is just what is written in the books and the pure precepts of Damma, they are good. But we are more than that, thousands of years of culture too is woven in to the fabric, the Danes, bhodi pooja, bana ceromonies, perahara , pirth,katina and sorts of festivals , wesak , poson, the Dalada maligawa and so many like Dansals. These cannot be just thrown away because sudda does not know about them neither the local suddi. Do you think just because some one does not approve of those, the majority who’s culture is that will throw it out of the window. Then we must start a scheme where all children will be given convent or church education and that too in English. Still it will take ages before a change would come because lot of them won’t change like the author.

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                      “But we are more than that, thousands of years of culture too is woven in to the fabric, the Dane’s, bhodi pooja, bana ceromonies, perahara , pirith katina and sorts of festivals , wesak , poson, the Dalada maligawa and so many like Dansals.” Kirthi this paragraph shows that you understand that all these things you describe, are part of our Sinhala Culture. Let us keep it that way and let those who want to, enjoy them as Culture! We don’t have to call it Buddhism. Christmas and its cultural paraphernalia is not Christianity. Thai Pongal and the cultural activities are not Hinduism. Ramazan and Hijab etc. are not Islam. They are the visible aspects. So unless we investigate Buddhism further, as Sharmini encourages us to do, we tend to take these Rituals, as the true face of the Religion.

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                      Kirthi, What you relate are the changes that have taken place over time. Inevitable. But that is not Buddhism. That is ritual and worship similar to many other religions. What has happened is that these rituals and practices have taken over from the true teachings. If we do not go back to being true Buddhists, Buddhism is meaningless to us and the Buddha has failed. What we see in Sri Lanka is Buddhism mutated.

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                      Kirthi,

                      Going by your comments, you appear to be someone who has never quite grown out of childhood.

                      You seem lost in your own fairy-tale of “thousands of years of culture” where the teachings of the Buddha have no place.

                      You dream world comprises “Danes, bhodi pooja, bana ceromonies, perahara , pirth,katina and sorts of festivals , wesak , poson, the Dalada maligawa and so many like Dansals”.

                      These are words of a child,who refuses to grow up, and not those of a mature, grown-up man.

                      For your own good, read the comments on this thread, with the most amount of positive votes, and if you are intelligent enough, you will realise, what a foolish and superficial world, you have been living in, all this while.

                      Best of luck to you.

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                      Kirthi,

                      “Believe nothing, in the faith of traditions,
                      even though, they have been held in honor,
                      for many generations, and in diverse places.

                      Do not believe, a thing, because many people speak of it.
                      Do not believe, in the faith, of the sages of the past.
                      Do not believe, what you yourself have imagined,
                      persuading yourself, that a God inspires you.

                      Believe nothing, on the sole authority, of your masters and priests.
                      After examination, believe what you yourself, have tested
                      and found, to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.” The Buddha

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                  Kirthi,

                  This is Sinhala Buddhism……..

                  Balumgala 2011-07-25 Ruwanwelle Sobitha -Part 01

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqX3z–XglI

                  Sobitha how do you look women we only live for a short time and need to enjoy while we live… do you …. wants her phone number ,,, but give pirith or for Bana…..,,,

                  This is Sinhala Buddhism….. but Monk Mahanama did the greatest damage to Buddhism….

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                    The people above should read the article well, sharmini s criticisms on Buddhism are all on the rituals. She does not know any deep understanding of the faith to do an academic analysis on the subject, all what she has told was about the ritual side. My reply was on those lines, I said if they are innocent just leave them alone. It is not that I have not grown out of childhood. The basis of the article and the comments by most are against Sinhala and the culture. [Edited out]

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                      @ Kirthi,

                      If you say “sharmini s criticisms on Buddhism are all on the rituals” then obviously, you have not read the article beyond the first few paragraphs.”

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                    [Edited out]

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                Walter,

                Very True. Brainwashed from an early age, and failed to outgrow it, like he stork bringing the babies, Santa, and Jataka Kathas, the childrens stories.

                Ms. Shamani Serasinha is trying to bring The Enlightenment and Reason to Sinhala Buddhism in the 21st Century, 5 Centuries after the Enlightenment and Reason arrived in Christian Europe, and liberate Sri Lanka from the Monk Mahanama curse.Philosopher Bertrand Russel stated that 95% of the solution is identifying the PROBLEM. Ms. Shamani Serasingha has CORRECTLY identified the PROBLEM, the curse, as MAHANAMA SINHALA BUDDHISM. Bravo!

                The greatest challenge for Religion, Priest, Monk and Mullah hegemony was science. History is full of examples from the conflicts the Islamic Scientists and Philosophers faced against the religious establishment of Ulamas and Mullahs, the Christian scientists faced in the West, during the age of Reason.

                Neil DeGrasse Tyson – The Islamic Golden Age: Naming Rights

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDAT98eEN5Q

                Published on Mar 18, 2012
                Neil deGrasse Tyson, an American astrophysicist and Director of the Hayden Planetarium, discusses how Islamic scholars contributed to the Islamic Golden Age and how over time independent reasoning (ijthad) lost out to modern institutionalised imitation (taqleed) present in the wider islamic society today.

                All About the Enlightenment The Age of Reason

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0B28_gwj0M

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                  I agree. Even Albert Eisenstein stated the only religion for the future is Buddhism. I am sure he did not mean Buddhism being practiced as per Mahawamsa, it obviously has to be pure Buddhism as taught by Buddha himself.

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                    Water water every where, he said ;)

                    An empty stomach is not a good political adviser.

                    God always takes the simplest way.–Albert Einstein
                    ______________

                    Sinhala Buddhist==Smelly Pincushion!。◕‿◕。 。◕‿◕。
                    Sinhala Rump Buddhist,
                    Sinhala Croup Buddhist,
                    Sinhala Cum Buddhist,
                    Sinhala Cuss Buddhist
                    ~゜・_・゜~  ~゜・_・゜~ 

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                do you think buddhists learn n read mahawamsa like christians read bible n muslims read koran? I dont think even 50 buddhists could be found who has read mahawamsa

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                When did you discover the truth, I think you are still in a muddle , it will take long before realize the truth. You may be one in a million who really go by the Buddhas pure precepts . But the majority who are either Christians or tiger supporters dont think like you. They are against our country.

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                  This reply was for Walter, who said Christians are harvesting in muddy waters.

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              Goofy the Buff-head

              vzibu and Keerthi are not the real cancer. Your beloved blood sucker podian preba was the real cancer. Thanks to SL Defence forces the big cancer of the 30 odd years is fully eliminated.

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                @Maratoni Makalga,

                You should have heeded the words of “caution” at the beginning of this piece. Your comments have no relevance to the topic under discussion.

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                Unfortunately you are completely off track. Suggest you read the article again without preconceived notions if Buddhism matters to you. Forget the prejudice against other races while reading because as far as we know Buddha was not racist.

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              Goofy, Agree with you, even though you are too harsh on Vibushana and Kirthi. What needs to be understood is that Sharmini is not criticising what the Buddha taught (ie.Buddism) but it’s practice in Sri Lanka where it is more a cultural phenomenon than a religion. For instance we need to recognize that Buddhist practice is no longer virtuous, instead what do we do? We worship statues and images made of cement and concrete, offering flowers, lighting lamps, expecting deliverance and worshiping the Bodhi tree in anticipation of favours.More akin to Hinduism. The Buddha never said to do these! On the other hand where is our shraddha? Where is Karuna, Mudhitha, Upekha? Declining in leaps and bounds! We see this in our lifetime and do nothing. Sharmini has attempted to open the eyes of Buddhists. We must appreciate it even though I think it is an futile exercise.

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                so are u saying buddhism was changed into hinduism version by mahawamsa? Are u saying it is an insult

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          Vibushana,

          “She probably had a bad experience in the hands of a Buddhist monk it looks like.”

          There is no need to experience on your own abuse by monks, but can use reason and observation from other’s experiences with the monks. For example, given below is the experience of one Child in Habaraduwa by a Sinhala Buddhist Monk.

          Alternate Views:

          Child Abuse by a Monk in Habaraduwa, Magama Hemasiri

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNSC93mPs4I

          Uploaded on May 29, 2010

          She sent her grandson to school with the idea of providing him with proper education to make him a good person. The Buddhist monk in charge of the temple asked her to send the child to the temple and she sent him there because they were poor. There was no possibility for them to pay the money for tuition fees. That was the reason why they sent the boy to the temple school.When the child began to refuse going to the temple school so adamantly, grandmother had to look for the reason. It was then only that she discovered that the child who was sent to learn good behavior, ethics and Buddha’s Dharma from the monk had in fact been abused by the monk.

          Give below are the criticism of the Tibetan Buddhist Monks, before the Liberation by the Chinese the Monk Feudal system and abuse.

          Buddhism The Great Evil — Part 1

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNOfTGSADdY

          Buddhism The Great Evil — Part 2

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clcs2PSze0I

          Give below are the criticism of the Tibetan Buddhist Monks, before the Liberation by the Chinese the Monk Feudal system and buse.

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          whatever this woman say, it is very wrong to say such things. i am a sinhalese and a buddhist and i dont want such things to be said to her.

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            Sac’Fungi,the Troll.

            Sinhala Buddhist==Smelly Pincushion!==

            Sinhala Rump Buddhist,
            Sinhala Croup Buddhist,
            Sinhala Cum Buddhist,
            Sinhala Cuss Buddhist

            Folks It is always more difficult to fight against faith than against knowledge.- Adolf Hitler

            Got to bomb them to stone age.

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            “i am a sinhalese and a buddhist”…what qualification is that?

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              it is not a qualification. It is the ethnicity and religion that this woman too is coming from

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            Aney moda putha.
            Start counting one …. two …. three….
            The likes have exceeded 246.

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            You always say she is wrong without reasoning it out. Try to develop some valid arguments without purely sliding mud.

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              Refer the rest. The comments that irritated u so u pasted the same comment

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          More ad-hominen attacks. Every time you lot make these character assasination attacks and ignore the arguments put forth, all you do is further convince others that you do not have a counter argument.

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            Sharmini’s writing style may be self loathing, but her intellect, knowledge and wisdom shown in her writing needs to be commended. people should not be worried about commentators such as vibushana who never seem to understand or criticize the main theme of the article.

            I fondly remember sharmini’s colleagues, Messrs Eric Fernando, Faizal Bongso, Ajita Kathirgamar etc who helped and shaped my proficiency in English.

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              Really my dear Ken!!!!!!!!!!

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                Yes they think English is the most important think, that’s why they understand only suddas Buddhism.

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          I read the Previous article written by this so- called buddhist woman Sharmini Serasinghe. What I thought was a disillusioned woman. She says she is buddhist but every thing she wrote was THIESTIC. children of a lesser god, soul, God’s wrath are all of a Christian woman’s mentality and she did not know anything about Karma and how karma ruin one’s life.

          What in this article Sharmini shows is her stupidity and lack of a brain. Education in English is not SMARTNESS.

          Besides, SHARMINI is a very good example of a FAILED – POST COLONIAL, POST INDEPENDENCE SRI LANKAN EDUCATION.

          Children of well to do but dumb parents were educated in English Catholic schools. The only thing they learned to love was European culture or a foreign culture.

          In this article she criticizes buddhist temples, buddhist culture and Mahavamsa.

          She is not an intelligent woman and is not intelligent enough to understand peoples’s cultures in the old world.

          IF not she should have some mental problems.

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            This comment was removed by a moderator because it didn’t abide by our Comment policy.For more detail see our Comment policy https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/comments-policy-2/

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              Seems all my comments get erased but have to say what Jim says is true. [Edited out]. I also like to say people should not interfere in the beliefs of lay masses who had been practicing Buddhism as taught by the ancestors or their old parents if they are not doing any wrongs. To me they are not doing any wrong in practicing those rituals and believe in folklore stories if they are for good and healing. Those stories whether from jataka Katha or any bana are all for good and to direct them in a peace loving path. I don’t think very many of those simple people know mahawamsa to that extent ant it has any impact on their thinking. The problem is people like the author and the cohorts who want the 2000 years old civilization destroyed just because the English speaking elite does not like the way they practice Buddhism. We know what is truth and what is being told like in any religion or faith to attract the masses, if they are innocent why bother. The intelligent can throw them aside and practice Buddhism in its pure form as they wish, but do not try to convert all to their kind of wise and intelligent and pure form of Buddhism, which will not happen as vast majority are not renowned journalistic academics in the calibre of the author and the cohorts. They are simple people, they are not the types that mingle in high society and in clubs with social drinking who indulge in lot of academic discourse. Please don’t mix your kind of Buddhism to the simple rituals that people had been known to indulge in for thousands of years. It does not have to done in English.

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                Kirthi, Did the Buddha discriminate between people like you suggest?

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                “Please don’t mix your kind of Buddhism to the simple rituals that people had been known to indulge in for thousands of years.”
                Kirthi, this is exactly what Sharmini is trying to tell you. That what is practised today is not the ‘Teachings of the Buddha’, but the Rituals that have been inherited from our Hindu Past! Vijaya did not bring Buddhism to Sri Lanka, he brought Hinduism, the Rituals of which are ingrained in the Sri Lankan Collective Psyche.

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                  So why do you and Sharmini want it changed , how does it affect you all, and what is your gain in changing these simplistic rituals of people.[Edited out].

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                    Kirthi,

                    You are a lost cause. It’s better to bang our heads against a rock wall, than to make you realise, that there is far more to Buddhism than your precious rituals.

                    Of course, given your level of intelligence, you will never comprehend what I’m saying.

                    But has your ritualistic Buddhism made you a good person? If so, why do you spew venom at others who are non-Buddhists i.e. Muslims, Tamils, Christians etc?

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                      Did I do, look at yourself the mirror, then you’ll get an answer.

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                  What does that lady know about Buddhism, all her criticism is regarding our culture and traditions.

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                  still what is the connection with mahawams

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            True.She does not understand that there are certain things that we do not understand in this world. We (including the author of this article)have not reached that stage yet. Even Buddah preached not to waste time on thinking these things. She goes on criticizing as if only Sri Lankan Buddhists have all these mythical figures. She should look at all other religions. They all have these out of world incidents. For example; Virgin Mary concept in Christianity. So it is better for her to think back on her arguments again. No need to show that you are an enlightened one. it shows that you are ignorant. Anyway, we are living in a democratic world and she has her right to express herself. The Mahawamsa author had his rights to express his ideas. At least accept it.

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              Sheeler, ~゜・_・゜~ 

              So they rimmed you and called it Sinhala `Cum` Buddhist

              with a dog collar??

              But then why are you wearing itchy underwear?? (^‿◕)

              _______

              The great strength of the totalitarian state is that it

              forces those who fear it to imitate it.–Adolf Hitler

              。◕‿◕。

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            Jim Softy,

            Tell me, what articles have you NOT read on CT and commented on?

            You say “stupidity and lack of a brain” to Sharmini. Why don’t you go look in a mirror and repeat those words.

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            “Children of well to do but dumb parents were educated in English Catholic schools. The only thing they learned to love was European culture or a foreign culture.”

            What do you think about Sri Lankan Buddhist who educated from buddhist schools like (Ananda, Nalanda,..etc) continuesly insult Sinhalese Buddhism ?.

            You can find several blog authors too from those schools.

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            Jim stupidity,

            Please read the Caution in the above article. This article are not written fools like you.

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            Jim Softy and Avatars,

            Here is something to read for your Enlightenment.

            Facts are facts. Ms. Shamani Serasinha is describing facts and practices. Martin Luther did the same in 1517, by nailing the 95 Theses to the Church Door and started the Protestant Reformation against the Catholic Church and Indulgences.

            What Sri Lanka needs is A TRUE SINHALA BUDDHIST MARTIN LUTHER to get away from Monk Mahanama Sinhala Buddhism and Racism, that is the curse of Lanka to forma civilized and Egalitarian Society. Bali, Indonesia is peaceful, 94% Hindu, and does not suffer from this Monk Mahanama curse.

            For example, given below is the experience of one Child in Habaraduwa by a Sinhala Buddhist Monk.

            Child Abuse by a Monk in Habaraduwa, Magama Hemasiri

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNSC93mPs4I

            Uploaded on May 29, 2010 She sent her grandson to school with the idea of providing him with proper education to make him a good person. The Buddhist monk in charge of the temple asked her to send the child to the temple and she sent him there because they were poor. There was no possibility for them to pay the money for tuition fees. That was the reason why they sent the boy to the temple school.When the child began to refuse going to the temple school so adamantly, grandmother had to look for the reason. It was then only that she discovered that the child who was sent to learn good behavior, ethics and Buddha’s Dharma from the monk had in fact been abused by the monk.

            Give below are the criticism of the Tibetan Buddhist Monks, before the Liberation by the Chinese the Monk Feudal system and abuse.
            Buddhism The Great Evil — Part 1

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNOfTGSADdY

            Buddhism The Great Evil — Part 2

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clcs2PSze0I

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          Vibushana
          “I agree with you. She probably had a bad experience in the hands of a Buddhist monk it looks like”

          you are opening your can of worm here ….and you are trying to come to terms with your own experience with the monks…sexual abuse?

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          “She needs to forgive..” – is there forgiveness for sin in

          Buddhism?

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            Samsara!!

            only the injured can forgive however its cheeky to put

            the cart before horse, Trouble and Strife ◕‿◕

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          There seems to be a backlash against rational evidence based reasoning by some who claim to be ‘Buddhists’ in modern Sri Lanka. They view rational critical thinking as foreign and Western when actually a critical approach to religious teaching is a fundamental core of the Buddha’s teaching and is very Asian in its origins indeed. I’ve attached a link to the Kalama Sutta (already mentioned several times by others in these comments) which you may find quite refreshing when compared to the teachings of many other religions.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalama_sutta

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          Vibhushana

          This is what Buddha taught as opposed to what you learn from Sinhala/Buddhism. Give it a try though you might find it difficult better late than never:

          Buddhism aims at creating a society where the ruinous struggle for power is renounced ;

          where calm and peace prevail away from conquest and defeat ;

          where the persecution of the innocent is vehemently denounced ;

          where one who conquers oneself is more respected than those who conquer millions by military and economic warfare ;

          where hatred is conquered by kindness, and evil by goodness ;

          where65 enmity, jealousy, ill-will and greed to not infect men’s minds ;

          where compassion is the driving force of action ;

          where all, including the least of living things, are treated
          with fairness, consideration and love ;

          where life in peace and harmony, in a world of material contentment, is directed towards the highest and noblest aim, the
          realization of the Ultimate Truth, Nirvana.

          What the Buddha Taught by Walpola Rahula

          http://www.dhammaweb.net/books/Dr_Walpola_Rahula_What_the_Buddha_Taught.pdf

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          You have not read Sharminis word of caution before deciding whether or not you should read this article, which is : the following is more suitable for the BROAD-MINDED and the WISE. Others are kindly advised to pass!

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          Vibushana,

          “Believe nothing, in the faith of traditions,
          even though, they have been held in honor,
          for many generations, and in diverse places.

          Do not believe, a thing, because many people speak of it.
          Do not believe, in the faith, of the sages of the past.
          Do not believe, what you yourself have imagined,
          persuading yourself, that a God inspires you.

          Believe nothing, on the sole authority, of your masters and priests.
          After examination, believe what you yourself, have tested
          and found, to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.” The Buddha

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        This guy Kirthi commenting on this thread is one Kirthi Jayasekera.

        Early this year, when the BBS was playing havoc against Muslims & Christians, Sharmini wrote several articles to CT, in defense of those being attacked.

        Kirthi has managed to get hold of Sharmini’s email address and started stalking her with threatening emails.

        I’m told, that Sharmini has saved all those emails sent by Kirthi and she has advised those close to her, that in the event she disappears or meets with a fatal “accident”, this guy Kirthi Jayasekera, who appears to be demented, must be considered a prime suspect.

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    Very rational Sharmini and to the point. I also studied in that Convent you went to and agree with you that it is a place where you create humble, tolerant young women who respect people of all creeds and caste. There is one thing however, that I disagree. I come from a Buddhist background in Galle and I have never been taught by my family or extended family that you need to distrust the others of different faiths. Perhaps this ‘world view’ of yours come from having been a student of this ‘artificial’ private school surrounded by rich Buddhists.
    I also would like to add that after having lived in different parts of the world, I personally would not classify people worship a stone foot print or any other unusual thing including combined worship of Gods, temples etc as ‘foolish’ or ‘Modaya’. Spirituality comes in different forms and people of Sri Lanka are as ‘spiritual’ as a person of another part of the world. You have people in Cambodia who are worshipping infront of a Buddha statue (while horrible genocide occurred in that country just a few years ago and where they do not have one generation of people due to the genocide). You have an Amerindian worshipping an Aztec or Maya Gods in stone pyramids combined with a Black Jesus or Black Mary with their combined Christian heritage. Or in Africa people worshipping trees and stones in certain tribes as the San Bushmen in the Kalahari dessert in Namibia and Botswana.
    My point it is ‘insensitive’, ‘intolerant’ and ‘arrogant’ to point fingers at any one’s religion. That is the bottom line that I learned from my Sinhala Buddhist ancestors. While pointing out rational fingers at the ‘foolishness’ of the Sinhala Buddhists, you come out as the person with the problem.
    There are extremists working around in Sri Lanka, but where don’t you find them? The USA, Europe, Africa and even in the most peaceful places like Bali.
    Conclusion: Your view of the Sri Lankan Buddhists come from the traumas you suffered by studying at this particular private Buddhist school. It is good to go to counselling and don’t send your children there.

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      Miss. Mahsona,

      Totally missed the point, didn’t you dear lady?

      Perhaps that’s why you are still a ‘Miss’ and not a ‘Mrs’.

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        You are only concentrating on the Miss and Mrs and completely missed the points. You should know where to look so that you see the correct image.

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        Oi,SOB MuckMurkan,

        That was the grease yaka! are you the paid `khyber pass` to sabotage that

        you are interested is other things always than lets the ones who can

        rip apart raspberry tart vermin like Ma Ha head-on?? ~゜・_・゜~ 

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        Mahadana Muththa (Jnr) you are very astute.

        You are correct, if one reads between the lines, this woman Mahasona is actually attacking the author. Only 4 have caught it and voted down. Others have obviously missed it, or else she would not have got 15 positive votes.

        Typical Mahasona style!

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      With reference to your comment which I greatly admire I give the links to two wonderful articles written by one of the great teachers of my time.

      I am a Catholic and I thank you and the writer for giving a true picture of Catholic convents

      http://chandimagomes.blogspot.com/2012/05/worshiping-stones-trees-and-concrete.html

      http://chandimagomes.blogspot.com/2013/08/to-protect-buddhism-in-sri-lanka.html

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      It is better to confront the points with counter arguments. NO need to find the reason why those points were raised. I find this common logic being used by mostly Sinhalese Buddhist that is “If it can happen somewhere sometime to somebody why shouldn’t it be justified in Sri Lanka”. With this kind of argument no system can function in the world. No body can be held accountable to any thing. I don’t know whether Mahawansa preached that too. Sharmini has raised some points confront them if you can. To analyses why she raised those points is unwarranted unnecessary and un?.

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        Mahawamsa is not a religious book like the old Bible, Torah. Mahawama has nothing to do with Buddha Dhamma as many a fool like you have been suckered into believe by unlearned writers like Shamini. Mahawamsa is an epic poem in the Pali language.

        If you want to learn the essence of Buddha Dhamma then you should read Visuddhimagga which was written by Buddhagosha in Maha Vihara, Anuradhapura in the 5th century which is freely available through www. Most learned Sinhala Buddhists have a copy of it. I doubt you or Shamini can understand it.

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          I don’t want to learn the Buddist Dhamma. I have see it in practise in a very Buddist country in Sri Lanka. We are not interested in what this fairy tale preach. You fail to see my point. Here is an article written by somebody. If you don’t agree with some or all of the points be decent enough to confront them with reasons logic and arguments rather than going round and round about who the author is. Is she a Miss or Mrs what she is eating wearing etc. If you think the other Buddhist book can help you please read it. If it is a good one it will say the same things I have raised here. If not that book is not worth reading. Well again dont waste time with the auther read the book not the author ok because you cant.

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        Well said.

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      You are hitting the person, not the message. The message is that there is something troubling with Mahavamsa Buddhism that is practised in Sri Lanka. It produces results that are grossly antithetical to the Buddhism that Gautama taught.

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      Miss Mahasona!!

      “|”`There is one thing however, that I disagree. I come from a Buddhist background in Galle and I have never been taught by my family or extended family that you need to distrust the others of different faiths. Perhaps this ‘world view’ of yours come from having been a student of this ‘artificial’ private school surrounded by rich Buddhist.”|”

      “☻/
      /▌
      / \ Hate always Boomerangs
      Your parents taught you: If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.–Adolf Hitler- Because you are a kallathoni.

      `Distrust`- we are all street wise, know who we are and that is what the De La Salle monks taught us though we weren’t Catholic’s. But what the Southern Sinhala Buddhist has done the last 64 years won’t go unrevenged as it stands because you lie to yourself and cannot accept that you are reason for the cause.

      “|”My point it is ‘insensitive’, ‘intolerant’ and ‘arrogant’ to point fingers at any one’s religion.”|”

      That is not what your parents knew but what the missionary convent nuns taught you. Don’t forget you had only the borrowed amude when the Portuguese bought you here from Cochin. Go read Indian history because Gautama was Indian – kiss ass and get knowledge.

      “|”While pointing out rational fingers at the ‘foolishness’ of the Sinhala Buddhists, you come out as the person with the problem. “|”

      Bollocks, you are just being politically correct than addressing the problem of Badagini in the land.

      “|”even in the most peaceful places like Bali.”|”

      that’s because it’s Hindu which does not permit conversion therefore there are no crusades as at Lanka today to keep the southern Buddhist tyrant oiled like a toad on fire. However the largest musical gathering on earth is the Hindu mela- it’s the spirit that calls not the religion like Yoga practiced by westerners.

      You must be lying to self by not accepting that Buddhism is an offshoot of Hinduism- a philosophy of a warrior prince and the oldest available is about 300 years after Gautama and at the British Museum.The Japanese ransacked Loyang WW2 and some items are at the museum but not all. Kenzo Tange, wanted Japan to be the kingdom so he landscaped Lumbini to say Gautama was born and died under the same tree like an elephant does. There is no proof just your arrogant faith but it is a philosophy like a Tao(great delineations)

      “☻/
      /▌
      / \ Hate always Boomerangs
      Never mistake spiritual for religious on the orders of your paymaster the `Gooo`ta jackal- (SBNR)

      One helps you personally make a life, the other helps you make a public life with faith an emotion.

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      Miss Mahasona,
      Some Australians are making very forceful voice to investigate some malpractices (underage sex offences, etc) done by Christian clearly in the past and they force high ranked priests, politicians, and police to investigate issues occurred 30 years back. People make voices to correct these things and put measure to prevent those happening in the future are the people who have faith in values in those religions …
      I believe what Sharmini type journalist do is similar, they have faith on values of SL Buddhism, and very valuable to better future of SL
      Anura

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    Thanks. You are a brave human being. Keep up the good work.

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    “The incumbent President has assured more than once, of “religious freedom for all communities, by enhancing interreligious harmony and tolerance”. If he is sincere, then he ought to consider introducing the subject of ‘Comparative Religion’, to all schools, whereby all would understand, the religion of the other.” Sharmini, the above paragraph is of course, the Ideal. But where on Earth, are you going to find Sinhala trained teachers who are willing to teach comparative religion? As a practising Buddhist, and an avid reader of translations Buddhist texts in English, I have tried to question the various practices that are conducted in our Temples, and been told off by Monks and Lay people alike, as an English educated non-believer. As you so rightly point out, a whole generation of Sinhala educated Sri Lankans seem to be lost in the Wilderness of the Mahavamsa!

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      I had my early education in a christian mission school. When the christian students had their Christianity class, we had what they called an “Ethics” class. We learnt verses from ThiruKural which is secular in nature. This book has been translated into several langauges, including English.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tirukku%E1%B9%9Ba%E1%B8%B7

      But our “leaders” might not like the idea of students studying this book, as they consider anything and everything connected to TAMIL as evil.

      “OUR SO CALLED LEADERS” would not like the Sri lankans to believe in Secularism, as they thrive on the “DIVIDE AND RULE POLICY” They would not want the people to be weaned away from the “Sinhala Budhist Frenzy”

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        Sinhala people never cnsidered anything related to tamil as evil. That is why yiu will see many tamil cultural elements adopted in sinhala culture. That is why you see hindu gods beside buddha statues in buddhist homes. Take subhashithaya, tamil influence is very much recognised. You might have rea thirukkural but sinhala people have read the sinhaka translation ofthirukural long before.

        If you check sahithya sangrahaya of wednesday lankadeepa, it always carries a item called from thirukkural. Sinhala people have been very open to other cultures even tamil. Contrast this with the sl tamil culture that attacks everything they think non tamil.

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          Sach,
          It is always wise to “Keep your mouth shut” and allow the others to assume you are a fool rather than opening your mouth and proving that you are a “bloody fool”. In this case I am referring to your foolish comments in this tread.

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            You opened your mouth Wimal!

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          A fresh perception Sachs.

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          Sach

          You are totally wrong either you are misinformed about the Srilankan Tamils or you are deliberately distorting the facts. The Sub-stratum of the Sinhala language is Tamil furthermore twenty percent of the Sinhala vocabulary comes from the Tamil language.
          Great many Hindu Tamils follow Lord Buddha’s teachings.
          Tamils also listen to Sinhala music .

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    Are the Financiers of these Christian NGOs getting value for their money?.

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      Address the points don’t worry about the financiers. Sharmini will work it out. If she need any help she may contact you. That too I doubt.

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      Standard argument style of those who support the regime and or the Buddhist establishment, is to make ad hominen attacks and ignore the article all together.

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      K.A Sumanasekera

      Even if the NGO doesn’t get value for money it seems she works and lives in this island unlike your wife who works hard in middle east to feed lazy stupid lankies like you.

      You pay peanuts you get monkeys.

      Does your employer pay you peanuts in hand without subjecting it to payroll taxes?

      Next time ask him to pay you in Ulundu Vaddai.

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      Sumanasekera et al Avatars,

      Perhaps, in this age of reason. Monk Mahanama Sinhala Buddhist Racism will not cut it in the 21st century.

      All About the Enlightenment The Age of Reason for Sinhala Mahanama Buddhism.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0B28_gwj0M

      For example, given below is the experience of one Child in Habaraduwa by a Sinhala Buddhist Monk.

      Child Abuse by a Monk in Habaraduwa, Magama Hemasiri

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNSC93mPs4I

      Uploaded on May 29, 2010 She sent her grandson to school with the idea of providing him with proper education to make him a good person. The Buddhist monk in charge of the temple asked her to send the child to the temple and she sent him there because they were poor. There was no possibility for them to pay the money for tuition fees. That was the reason why they sent the boy to the temple school.When the child began to refuse going to the temple school so adamantly, grandmother had to look for the reason. It was then only that she discovered that the child who was sent to learn good behavior, ethics and Buddha’s Dharma from the monk had in fact been abused by the monk.

      Given below are the criticism of the Tibetan Buddhist Monks, before the Liberation by the Chinese the Monk Feudal system and abuse.
      Buddhism The Great Evil — Part 1

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNOfTGSADdY

      Buddhism The Great Evil — Part 2

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clcs2PSze0I

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    The rituals out of every religion was born out to streamline people’s thoughts and deeds. It is akin a mother threatens to child unless it takes food, devil will come and catch or akin to instances when mother shows a moon and feeds her child with fairy tales. similarly when religions set its foot to streamline the people, it too adopted similar tactics of teaching its people either with fairy tales or with threatens. The religious leaders indirectly fostered such threat to make people to abide by certain ethics through religious rituals. sometime such rituals resulted encompassing the scientific truth. Example, In India vedic literature mentions that one should not sleep resting head from the north to south.this was considered as an inauspcious, but if one looks deeper, it was to simply enforement to adopt a better sleeping practice, because sleeping resting head from north, will have highest magnetic field traversing on body which may disturb sound the sleep.This is even a practice in yoga and hypnotism. Simlilary the houses are constructed facing the east to receive the maximum sun light. These practices later followed as a rigid relgious practices even after science advanced many folds to the extent that the human can land in the moon. Thus edcuation needs to bring the light to people to clearly see the rationale behind such rituals rather foolishly surrendering to it. The day people of every religion start seeing the rationale of the rituals, there lies the true liberation from sorrows of these modern world.

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    very well said Madam, you have spoken my mind as a Sri Lankan domiciled in the West and seeing the tribal mentality of us the born Buddhists and what a joke this had become.

    As happened in other Buddhist countries like Thailand, Burma – we are not going to be a developed state in the next 2500 years with this Mahavansa mentality and its high time we have a dictator that truly loves the country to burn this ridiculed past and move forwards with the new world.

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    All problems in sri Lanka creat by sinhala Buddhist modayas???seems time comes to sinhala Buddhist give up part of sri Lanka to this highly intelligent minoritys …

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      Salia- the Salaya

      You are envy on all Sri Lankans because your Kotalu Preba kissed the dust not fulfilling your peelum dream? Sour grapes. ANyway keep funding.

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    Sharmini,

    State patronage corrupts religions. It happened to the Catholic Church and many others. In addition to caste, women were not granted the same status as men in practically all the major religions by those who wielded power in all the religions.

    Buddhist Philosophy is an inspiring philosophy and I had the pleasure of listening to few lectures by Prof. K N Jayatillake. I am also impressed by the explanations of Buddhism by a learned former Judge, who knows the philosophy but never practiced it!

    Comparative religion is a good subject to teach if the focus is on similarities more than differences. I was impressed by some Sai Baba devotees who recognize the similarities of all the major religions, even though I do not believe in his miracles. We must work on reconciliation among Sri Lankans of all races, religions and castes in our schools and society.

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    Very True…
    Mahawamsa written by Mahanama Mahathera is nothing but an expanded or enlarged version of traditional heresy of 1,000 years …6th century BC – 6th Century AD… In this ‘ modern ‘ Sri Lanka the speed at which the gossip travels and how things are added on the way when it passes the one millionth person …imagine what might have been added to incidents over 1,000 years…!!!!….

    The famous Dhusta Gamini is none but a Dravida…his father Kaawanthissa actually known as Kaakawanna Thissa ..due to his dark Skin Color…who ruled Magama is a son of Vagambahu 1 a Dravida who ruled Anuradhapura before withdrawing to deep South as result of a coup by Indian Sena Gutththika….He set fire to Giri Vihaaraya burning all the scripts before withdrawing to deep South… It is interesting to note that Giri Viharaya had been occupied by the Tamil speaking Buddhist Priests…!!! ….Dhushta Gamini actually faught Elara for his inheritance and not for Unity of Sri Lanka….Never. Two reasons prove this …1 ) Dhushta Gamini built a Monument in the name of King Elara because Elara was his relation from South India… 2 ) IF Dhushta Gamini united Lanka then there could not have been any other king in the Country… he must have killed the king of Kalaniya Kalani Tissa father of his mother Vihara Maha Devi ..???? ….but this is not mentioned in the Mahawamsa…

    Sri Lanka was neither devided not united…The North..North Central…was ruled by the South Indian kings…the rest of the Areas were Jungles…inhabited by the Yaksha Tribes…Vijaya..the Pirate from west Bengal ..landed in Mannar accidently with 700 men…deceitfully married Kuveni ..chased her away and became the leader of Yakshas…and the descendants of that race spoke the mixed Tamil Begali language identified themselves as Sinhala…through Vijaya Lanka gained nothing other than deceitfulness…looting…..IF not why speak of a revival after the arrival of Arahath Mahinda…by that time most of the Irrigations in the North..North Central..Polonnaruva had been established by the South Indian Kings….

    In fact North Central …North..Polonnaruva…Trinco..North of Mahaveli River belong to Tamils….Rest of the Country belong to the Yaksha Tribe the descendants of Vijaya the Pirate…called YAKOO SINHALA ..OR SINHALA YAKAS….

    WHAT WE ARE TAUGHT IS NOT HISTORY …..BUT… HIS – STORY ..THE STORY OF THE LIAR MAHANAMA MAHATHERA CALLED MAHAWAMSA……ALL BULLSHIT…

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    Sharmini has the guts to speak the unpalatable truth.

    It is a bit harsh but the Sinhalese and Buddhism are poles apart. The Sinhala religion is an animist religion with a superstructure of other beliefs, principally drawn from Buddhism. The Buddha himself borrowed extensively from Hinduism. But, the religion that the Sinhalese have constructed is the mixture of all that is bad in the different religions. The caste system, the hatred of other peoples, the exclusivity of their religion, the use of Hindu Gods for favour-these are not notions of Buddhism that Gautama taught.

    But, please keep the Mahavamsa. The fact that every Sinhalese has been indoctrinated with the poison of the Mahavamsa is the best case there is for Eelam.

    One can only hope that the reaction to this well written and reasoned article is equally well written and reasoned, even if in rebuttal.

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      Very commendale for the writer to bluntly take on the Buddhist establishment because we all know how the regime treats dissenters. Since Rajapaksa regime is joined at the hip to Sinhala Buddhist supremacy, they will not like a Sri Lankan and especially a Sinhalaese critically exploring the myths and fables that underpin Sinhala Buddhist supremacy.

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    How was the Great King Gemunu named Dutu Gemunu? He built the bronze palace in Anuradhapura and placed/(forced) the clergy in it to do religious research and keep away from politics. The first thing they did was to name him DUTU – to vent their anger.

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    it is some extremist Buddhists who are shameful no historical text. it is its interpretation that we should be careful of

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    Great article but I disagree that Buddha was a Brahmin. — Gautama was born into a royal/chieftan’s family in what is present day Nepal. Kshatriya was the royal caste while Brahmins were priestly caste.

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      Prince Siddhartha did not come from a Brahmin family. He came from the Kshatriya clan – well below the Brahminic order. Sharmini contradicts herself later in her article. Most of the Prince’s focus were on Brahmin practises and customs – of which he was, quite rightly we believe, critical. After the Prince gained Enlightenment he encouraged people to question matters of society and the world around, where necessary. In this he was a revolutionary teacher, thinker and probably one of the earliest we celebrate today as accomodating or plural liberals.

      Backlash

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        @ Backlash,

        Stop splitting hairs man.

        Focus on the message in the article and base your arguments on that, not the caste Prince Siddhartha belonged to.