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MMDA, ACJU, Politicians & Women

By Ameer Ali

Dr. Ameer Ali

It is ten years since Justice Saleem Marsoof (JSM) and his committee was appointed to review and make recommendations to reform the Muslim Marriage and Divorce Act (MMDA), passed originally in 1951 and amended in 1954, 1955, 1965 and 1969 before becoming Law No. 45 in 1975. Neither in drafting the original Act nor in its subsequent amendments Muslim women were ever consulted. It was all a male affair. The need for further reforms to the Act in order to reflect the changing status of Muslim women in Sri Lanka arose, because an articulate, educated and professional class among them, demanded such reforms but within the parameters of a progressive Islam. This is a novelty. The tragedy however, is the lack of adequate representation of Muslim women in the final stages of consultation. The February 7th meeting attended by ACJU, Muslim politicians and an intruder YMMA (the community still doesn’t have YWMA) are all men claiming to speak on behalf of women. Justice Minister Thalatha Atukorale has conveniently passed the buck to Muslim politicians to decide, and none of those politicians would dare challenging ACJU. This is the dilemma Muslim women are facing at the moment. ACJU, the unchallenged guardian of prevailing orthodoxy, is not going to allow equal status for women in the affairs of marriage, divorce and disputes arising out of it.    

ACJU’s intellectual fortress is built with bricks of shari’a, fiqh and madhhab. Is this fortress that impregnable for modern ideas on women, marriage, divorce and family to enter and reshape its structure? Historically speaking there had been a creative tradition in Islam of discursiveness, disagreements, controversies and compromises in shaping those bricks and that tradition is not closed except in the minds of ACJU hierarchy. Muslim women of the era when the madhahib (plural for madhhab) derived their fiqh laws in relation to marriage and divorce are not the women of today. Today, they are more educated, more independent, more professional, and therefore they are a significant component of the nation’s labour force. They are not a piece of property to be protected and sold. An intentional reading of the Quran and researches by erudite Muslim women about the actual status accorded to them in Islam is totally contradictory to what the guardians of orthodoxy are advocating. Had ACJU been a forward looking institution changes to the fiqh would have originated much earlier from within that apex body.  Unfortunately its retrogressive outlook and intellectual stagnation have forced the demand for reforms to come from outside.  

The JSM report after long gestation has come out with a few progressive recommendations especially in regard to raising the marriageable age, consent of bride before marriage is contracted, stricter conditions on polygamy, women registrars of marriage, and abolition of dowry. Although these recommendations fall short of what is required to respect the human rights of women and equality of their status, yet JSM and the committee deserve to be congratulated for what they have come out with. The role of the six women members in that committee deserves special mention.

Instead of acting on the recommendations and legislating in parliament a suggestion was made on February 7th to translate the report in Tamil and circulate it widely. Why now and before legislating? The answer is clear. It is to cause further delay by creating more controversy. It will be interesting to see what the responses not only from the community of ulema but also from others after reading the Tamil translation. No two members of the ulema community, as found out by Justice Muneer in Pakistan in 1954, agree on anything. (I strongly recommend Muslim activists to read that report where Justice Muneer states that no two ulema agreed even on the definition of a Muslim.) When such conflicting views and reactions arise after circulating the report that may call for further discussion involving further delay. The hidden agenda to sabotage the report is shocking, to put it mildly.  

In an election year neither the Minister of Justice nor the Muslim parliamentarians are going to antagonise a powerful Muslim group like ACJU by ignoring its wishes. The only option to Muslim women is to form a broader coalition of sympathetic voices and continue agitating. It is surprising that even a progressive intellectual group like the Kandy Forum is keeping silent on this matter. As one writer put it “Women are the Future of Islam.”       

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    The thinking that the inclusion of women into discussion is somehow essential to facilitate just laws has no basis, as is evident from the immense injustices caused by feminists in the west.

    Those legislating just be chosen through experience and wisdom, not by gender.

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      Dr Amerr Ali,

      Thanks for keeping the hegemony of the Ulama, ACJU, in the front burner, while the Ulama, are trying to maintain the status quo of Ulama knows best and how to interprete the Quran and Hadith, and the women are chattel .

      This is the same situation that happened 900 years ago, when the rulers, politicians today, sided with the Ulama for political reasons against the philosophers. Islamic Science and technology went downhill as Revelation was stated to be above reason. (The Earth is spread out like a carpet),

      Unless the non-Muslim politicians intervene, and present the recommendations, that took 10 years to complete , reform of MMDA is dead. Twelve year-old Muslims girls will continue to be raped legally, and women will be discarded at will, by men, who qualified by being circumcised. What a strange culture and religion in the 21st century, where women are still considered chattel.

      This is a travesty of justice, in the Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka to a segment of the population.

      Still Sri Lankan Muslim brides do not sign the marriage certificate, because they are chattel, like goats, cows and furniture.

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        Thanks, Amarasiri, for providing a clear summary of the present position.
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        These injustices have been going on for 68 years, since 1951. That’s about the lifespan of men like us – much longer one suspects than the life-span of many a female baby-producing machine that also serves as an outlet for the sexual pleasures of male Muslims. I hope that doesn’t sound too racist or provocative – that isn’t my intention.
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        And the debate about the reforms going on for a decade. The men may be right; I guess they count on us to forget this injustice to human beings who are not us.
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        As you say, all MPs of whatever faith must band together to get this law passed. I think it will have huge public support because the injustices are so palpable. However, MPs sponsoring this move must make very sure that they don’t attempt to increase its popularity by rousing communal sentiments and presenting this as some sort of punishment for Muslim men.
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        Thanks, Justice Saleem Marsoof, Dr Amir Ali and other tireless advocates for persisting with this campaign. What I look forward to is a society in which harmony and equality prevail among all citizens, and religion is mostly a private affair.

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          Sinhala_Man,

          “baby-producing machine that also serves as an outlet for the sexual pleasures of male Muslims”

          How can you decide that women a treated like that when you have no idea of what is happening in a Muslim family? All data you have is through news and other sources. Has anyone done a survey to know what majority of Muslim women feel about their role in the family? Has any activist gone to the extent to at least speak to the ordinary women? You should not judge the situation based on few reported cases, and the reason they get reported is because they are out of norms. Overall, have you seen Muslim women are unhappy about how their husbands are treating them?

          When these things are absent, it is just a few activists who want to highlight themselves saying they fight for women. Fight for whom when there are no victims? Fight for what when there are no issues?

          If conduct a general survey among all women, I bet Muslim women would be the happiest among all other communities in SL.

          The whole issue is an unnecessary hype of few women activists supported by elements working to undermine Muslims. MMDA issue is like US’ WMD of Iraq

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            Dear ghk,
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            I know that I’m talking about things about which I have little knowledge. Yes, the Muslim friends whom I have treat their wives well, and I’m sure it is like that in most Muslim families.
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            I make many comments on CT, maybe too many, but none of them is frivolous, although the phrase you quote may be a bit untactful. Many of my Muslim friends concede that it would be sensible to amend MMDA, some of them say that it should be brought in line with the secular law of the land. It is a subject on which they too, will talk only with people whom they trust. They know that for all that I may be a mad hat, I’m not a person who is racist or communalist; possibly, you, too have observed that, which is possibly why you are reasoning with me.
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            My view is that there may be just a few cases of child marriage, of which you don’t approve either; I have seen your earlier post about the “dumb Muslims”.
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            Since so few instances of child marriage occur, why not make the change?
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            Zain, below, suggests a Muslims only referendum on this issue. Provided it is a secret ballot and close to half the voters are women, you would have proved your point, and you will silence the truly concerned non-Muslims.
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            I’m sorry if my wording was rather provocative; we must put right so many things in our society. On this issue, we seem to be making some progress, but it’s so painfully slow. To me, it seems such a clear cut matter.

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              Sinhala_Man, that was me who up-voted your comment first.

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                Thank you, ghk. I’ve just returned the compliment.
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                Let me hope that others reading this will draw the conclusion that disagreements can be resolved without the sounds getting raucous. Nor has either of us compromised in any dishonest way.

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        ACJU the self appointed Ulamas will never listen to anyone. They conveniently quote Quran and Sayings of the prophet (though the prophet treated women with dignity)and interpret to suit their authority.Certain changes are needed in the MMDA so than our women of today can live with status.Whether they are educated or not , they are not consulted in many issues whether at domestic or social level.They have come a long way as Professionals. We need their contributions in all aspect of life at all levels. Don”t give them a back seat. They must be accommodated.

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        Child marriage is likely in violation of the Quran based on 4:6 and 6:152.

        In addition the description of the marital oath in 4:21 suggests a child could not take it.

        Circumcision is a clear violation of 32:7 to 9, 95:4.

        According to 4:119 and 5:103 it is a clear example of how Satan misleads believers into doing what is clearly an immensely violent act.

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          Rizwan,

          Satan is mentioned 11 times in the Quran.
          Mohamed is mentioned 4 times in the Quran.
          Ahmed is mentioned once in the Quran.
          Satan put the Satanic verses in the Quran and had to be abrogated.
          The Hadith of Najd, presciently states that the Horn of the Satan will come from the East, Najd, referred to As Najdis, Horners, Wahhabis, Salafis and their clones.
          ACJU is funded and influenced by the Wahhabi-Salafi Petro Dollars.
          Per Islamic Theology, those who folllow Satan will end up in Hell Fire along with Satan.

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            In the Hadith re-Najd Amarasiri mentioned : “There will appear earthquakes and afflictions, and from there will come out the side of the head (e.g. horns) of Satan.”
            Can you let me know the number of Earthquakes that hit the Saudi Najd area ? None!
            Do you know how many earthquakes hit the area of Iraq/Iran ? many
            In another version of the same Hadith it was reported that the Prophet mentioned Iraq by name and stated that the head of Satan will appear from here!
            So much for the false scholarship of IQ Amarasiri, DNA, the trojan horse visitor into Islamic territory.

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              Jamal,

              Why are you getting lost in Earthquakes? Per prescient Hadith of Najd, it is Abdul Wahhab and the Wahhabies who came from Najd.

              Amarasiri’s IQ, DNA are all fine, much better than the Satan misled Wahhabi-Salafies and their clones, thanks to evolution and natural selection.

              Read about the sack of Karabala by the Satan following Wahhabies in 1802.
              The Wahhabi sack of Karbala occurred on 21 April 1802 (1216 Hijri) They killed 5,000!

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabi_sack_of_Karbala

              Scholar from al-Azhar: Wahhabism is a Satanic Faith, the Horn of the Devil that Muhammad Predicted

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UDy_apXW3E

              How to debate with the so called Wahhabi-Salafiyyah. ISIS and their clones.

              Al-Azhar University: The Oldest Islamic University.
              Vision:

              Al-Azhar University, ranking among the oldest universities in the world, is looking forward to enhancing its leading role worldwide in presenting the right Islamic principles based on moderation and excellence in education, research, and building moderate and constructive Muslim personalities, who can contribute to the development of human civilization.

              http://www.azhar.edu.eg/en/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%A9-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A9/Hostle/al-azhar-university-2

              Al-Azhar University is the largest university worldwide. It was established before the University of Bologna, Italy. It is the third oldest Islamic university after Zaytouna and Al-Qarawiyyin‏. For centuries, Al-Azhar has remained an institution for education whereas Zaytouna and Al-Qarawiyyin universities ceased to be so for long time. Located in Cairo—the capital of Egypt, with many branches in most of Egyptian governorates, Al-Azhar University is the world largest Islamic religious institution.

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                DNA amarasiri, whom are you trying to fool. Your “kohode yanne Malle Pol ” style will not fool educated people. of course you will be applauded by the riff-raff islamaphobes in this forum. Your willfully avoiding answering the question of the Earth Quakes is pure cowardice. The EARTHQUAKES proves that Nejd referred to in the Hadith is IRAQ, IRAQ and ONLY IRAQ.

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                  Jamal,

                  You should tell that to the cleric of Al Azhar. He also says, based on the Hadith of Najd, it is Rita’s, Dariah. It is NOT the Hadith of Iraq or Iran, as presciently predicted by Prophet Mohamed,, Pbuh, for the warning.

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                    Jamal,

                    Correction.

                    Riyadh, Dariah, the region in Najd, where the “False Prophet”, the Agent of Iblis, Satan, came from, per prescient Hadith of Najd. It was Abdul Wahhab and his colllaborators, Saud, all Agents of Satan.

                    They have taken over the two Holy Mosques, installed them as kings and prince, and the Wahhabi”Ulama” all are going along ewith it.

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                    What an idiotic answer!. I say the Prophet (on whom be peace) stated unequivocally Najd is IRAQ and this man foolishly says but the cleric of Al Azhar states otherwise.

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            The statement of “seven heavens” is repeated seven times
            “Day (yawm)” is repeated 365 times in singular form, while its plural and dual forms “days (ayyam and yawmayn)” together are repeated 30 times. The number of repetitions of the word “month” (shahar) is 12.
            The number of times the words, “world” (dunya) and “hereafter” (akhira) are repeated is also the same: 115
            The word “satan” (shaitan) is used in the Qur’an 88 times, as is the word “angels” (malaika).
            The words “paradise” and “hell” are each repeated 77 times.
            The words “man” and “woman” are also employed equally: 23 times. is at the same time that of the chromosomes from the egg and sperm in the formation of the human embryo. The total number of human chromosomes is 46; 23 each from the mother and father.
            The word “land” appears 13 times in the Qur’an and the word “sea” 32 times, giving a total of 45 references. If we divide that number by that of the number of references to the land we arrive at the figure 28.888888888889%. The number of total references to land and sea, 45, divided by the number of references to the sea in the Qur’an, 32, is 71.111111111111%. Extraordinarily, these figures represent the exact proportions of land and sea on the Earth today.
            The Hadith of Najd, presciently states that the Horn of the Satan will come from the East, Najd. This Najd here refers to Iraq as unequivocally stated in a sahih hadeeth.
            Sheik Wahab is one of the greatest scholars of Islam and his teachings has nothing to do with the actions of extremists.
            DNA Amarasiri risible analysis of Islamic matters is only fit for the trash bin. One may even consider him to be the horn of shaitan

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              Jamal,

              The seven heavens comes from the the Seven Dueties, that revolve around the Earth, the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn. It is the same reason why pre-Islamic Arabs went around the Kabbalah. Containing 360 idols, 7 times, in their pilgrimages. The Muslims kept this tradition. And the Qureah were happy, as they were able to keep the pilgrimage business, the Qureshi-concession.

              Was the Utmanuic Quran, kept as a tablet in heaven since eternity , even before the Eatth was formed? Was the Quran created or uncreated? What world views of 7th Century Arabia, got into the Quran, such as the flat Earth? That is why the Quran needs to be reformed, and certain verses abrogated or properly interpreted. Read up on Ibn Rushd, Ibn Arabi and Ibn Kaldun .

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                A typical Kohada tanner Malle POL” answer from the web scholar., Regarding the preservation of the Quran, I suggest you leave these matters to the Islamic Scholars of whom you know NOTHING. When world renowned scientists praise the contents of the Quran, that it is complete harmony with science, a MR. NOBODY is trying his best to display his colossal ignorance. DNA Amarasiri you have a LONG LONG WAY to go before you can qualify to interpret the QURAN

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        DNA Amarasiri of IQ fame says

        “This is the same situation that happened 900 years ago, when the rulers, politicians today, sided with the Ulama for political reasons against the philosophers. Islamic Science and technology went downhill as Revelation was stated to be above reason. (The Earth is spread out like a carpet),”

        What a prized ignoramus is Amarasiri. Let me put it this way. Have you seen how they stack carpets? They are rolled and stacked. What is the cross-section of a cylinder (the rolled carpet shape)? Isn’t it a circle.? Now expand the circle by increasing the radius to infinity. What would you get? A straight line of course! Giving DNA Amarasiri IQ a lesson in 3-D Geometry, is the case of a sphere Earth (to a first approximation) with its radius tending to infinity. What will the surface be? It will be a plane surface of course. So, the Earth when spread out will appear FLAT!
        Amarasiri has belittled and disparaged the Quran on so many occasions, questioning (as per his limited understanding) its inaccurate statements on Astronomy. Lets read what Dr. Yoshihide Kozai, Professor Emeritus at Tokyo University, Hongo, Tokyo, Japan, says

        “I am very much impressed by finding true astronomical facts in [the] Quran, and for us the modern astronomers have been studying very small pieces of the universe. We’ve concentrated our efforts for understanding of [a] very small part. Because by using telescopes, we can see only very few parts [of] the sky without thinking [about the] whole universe. So, by reading [the] Quran and by answering to the questions, I think I can find my future way for investigation of the universe.”

        Dr. Yoshihide is the Director of the National Astronomical Observatory, Mitaka, Tokyo, Japan.
        Surely Dr.Kozai could not have skipped Amarasiri’s discovery in the Quran, that the Earth was flat, and the Sun orbited the Earth.

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          Jamal,

          Why are you getting lost in Earthquakes? Per prescient Hadith of Najd, it is Abdul Wahhab and the Wahhabies who came from Najd.

          Amarasiri’s IQ, DNA are all fine, much better than the Satan misled Wahhabi-Salafies and their clones, thanks to evolution and natural selection.

          Read about the sack of Karabala by the Satan following Wahhabies in 1802.
          The Wahhabi sack of Karbala occurred on 21 April 1802 (1216 Hijri) They killed 5,000!

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabi_sack_of_Karbala

          Scholar from al-Azhar: Wahhabism is a Satanic Faith, the Horn of the Devil that Muhammad Predicted

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UDy_apXW3E

          How to debate with the so called Wahhabi-Salafiyyah. ISIS and their clones.

          Al-Azhar University: The Oldest Islamic University.
          Vision:

          Al-Azhar University, ranking among the oldest universities in the world, is looking forward to enhancing its leading role worldwide in presenting the right Islamic principles based on moderation and excellence in education, research, and building moderate and constructive Muslim personalities, who can contribute to the development of human civilization.

          http://www.azhar.edu.eg/en/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%A9-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A9/Hostle/al-azhar-university-2

          Al-Azhar University is the largest university worldwide. It was established before the University of Bologna, Italy. It is the third oldest Islamic university after Zaytouna and Al-Qarawiyyin‏. For centuries, Al-Azhar has remained an institution for education whereas Zaytouna and Al-Qarawiyyin universities ceased to be so for long time. Located in Cairo—the capital of Egypt, with many branches in most of Egyptian governorates, Al-Azhar University is the world largest Islamic religious institution.

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          Jamal / February 15, 2019
          (296 words)
          Amarasiri’s IQ, DNA are all fine, much better than the Satan misled Wahhabi-Salafies and their clones, thanks to evolution and natural selection. Just check out the GMAT scores of the Wahhabi-Salafi graduates from Saudi Arabia., lowest in the world at 330, whereas the Sufi Turkey at 540 and Shia Iran ay 520 performed much better. Even Sri Lanka at 480 was 150 points above the Saudi Wahhabis.

          National IQs predict GMAT scores across 173 nations

          https://humanvarieties.org/2014/02/02/quick-post-lvs-national-iqs-predicts-gmat-scores-across-173-nations/

          Reading the Quran literally, the Earth is Flat, Spread out like a carpet.
          The simple one word answer is “Yes”, because it was the worldview of the 7th Century Arabia. The current Quran, is the Uthmanic Codex, initially requested by Abu Bakr and Omar, and completed around 654 CE, about 22 years after Prophet Mohamed died. To avoid the Earth being flat, the Ulama should read Quran 3:7, and the people of knowledge are NOT the Ulama but the philosophers, per Ibn Rushd.

          15:19 And the earth We have spread out (like a carpet); set thereon mountains firm and immovable; and produced therein all kinds of things in due balance.

          20:53 He Who has, made for you the earth like a carpet spread out; has enabled you to go about therein by roads (and channels); and has sent down water from the sky.” With it have We produced diverse pairs of plants each separate from the others.

          43:10 has made for you the earth (like a carpet) spread out, and has made for you roads (and channels) therein, in order that ye may find guidance (on the way);

          50:7 And the earth- We have spread it out, and set thereon mountains standing firm, and produced therein every kind of beautiful growth (in pairs)

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            DNA Amarasiri,
            You are not competent to talk on the Quran as you are not a Quranic Scholar. You are a satanic mischief maker. A TROJAN HORSE who has picked out things from the Web and repeat it like a parrot.

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              Jamal / February 16, 2019,

              “You are not competent to talk on the Quran as you are not a Quranic Scholar. “
              Amarasiri is literate enough , have good common sense, reason and intelligence to read the Quranic sources, Quran, Hadith, Islamic History, interpretations written buy Islamic scholars, to see the validity of their interpretations.

              According to Ibn Rushd, the greatest Islamic Scholar, Judge, Jurist and Philosopher, the Ulama are not the people of knowledge and understanding.

              https://www.iep.utm.edu/ibnrushd/

              Just fifteen years before his birth, the great critic of Islamic philosophy, al-Ghazzali (1058-1111), had died after striking a blow against Muslim Neoplatonic philosophy, particularly against the work of the philosopher Ibn Sina (Avicenna). From such bleak circumstances emerged the Spanish-Muslim philosophers, of which the jurist and physician Ibn Rushd came to be regarded as the final and most influential Muslim philosopher.

              In this case, one of the best Islamic Scholars was Mohamed Ibn Rushd, who lived about 900 years ago. You don’t have to be Muslim, Christians or Jew to read Islamic , Christian or Jewish scripture and sources. Copernicus, Galileo and Kepler were not Greek, but corrected the geocentric model of the Greeks.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith_of_Najd

              Scholar from al-Azhar: Wahhabism is a Satanic Faith, the Horn of the Devil that Muhammad Predicted

              Hadith of Najd says, Keep away from Wahhabism-Salafism and its clones, ISIS, Al Qaeda, Islamists etc. who follow Satan, Iblis, as will surely end up in Hellfire along with Satan, per Islamic Theology

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          Jamal / February 15, 2019
          (298 Words)

          Part 3

          Amarasiri’s IQ, DNA are all fine, much better than the Satan misled Wahhabi-Salafies and their clones, thanks to evolution and natural selection.

          A few snippets …
          …Darwin published his theory of evolution with compelling evidence in his 1859 book On the Origin of Species, overcoming scientific rejection of earlier concepts of transmutation of species. … Darwin has been described as one of the most influential figures in human history.

          Rejection
          To this day there still exist some who reject evolutionary biology for religious reasons and instead prefer to opt for older creation mythology.
          Darwin’s idea is now well-established with multiple lines of evidence and does not simply rest upon his original writing, it has all come a long way since then
          At the heart of evolutionary theory is the basic idea that life has existed for billions of years and has changed over time.

          Overwhelming evidence supports this fact. Scientists continue to argue about details of evolution, but the question of whether life has a long history or not was answered in the affirmative at least two centuries ago.

          The history of living things is documented through multiple lines of evidence that converge to tell the story of life through time. These lines of evidence include:

          • Fossil evidence
          • Homologies
          • Distribution in time and space
          • Evidence by example
          Your disagreement is not with me, but instead is with the entire scientific community and so those are the people you need to begin with.
          Ken Miller on Human Evolution

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi8FfMBYCkk

          Dr. Ken Miller talks about the relationship between Homo sapiens and the other primates. He discusses a recent finding of the Human Genome Project which identifies the exact point of fusion of two primate chromosomes that resulted in human chromosome #2.

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            DNA Amarasiri,
            Why are you so dogmatic re- your anti- creationist views. There has been many books in favour of the creationist ideology. Even Lord Buddha speaks of the uncreate (creator) in his discourse!

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              Jamal,

              Go with the data and observations. The data and observations support evolution and natural selection. However, you can believe whatever you want based on your scriptures, but the truth supported by facts are the same.

              By the way, Buddha was not Lord, nor God. He was a philosopher, a lover of wisdom. Some people turned Buddha into a Lord, God and made statues of him to worship . It gave them satisfaction and peace. The monks made a great business out of Buddha’s teachings. The same with the Christian Churches and the Ulama. Now we have MMDA.

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          Jamal, this idiot Amarasiri is a web scholar. If you question anything he will immediately browse the sites like Wiki, google and come out with his explanation irrespective of whether it is correct or not. As you know what you get in the web is not 100% correct and has many mistakes. Just ignore him.

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            Ralli ameen,

            Facts and data points to the truth, wherever it comes from. However, it has to be supported.

            The Authentic Hadith of Bukhara and Muslim says that the Wahhabi-Salafies come from Najd, and the recent data from Wahhabis, Sslafies, Isis , Biko ZHaram etc. indicate that they all follow Satan, per the prescient Hadith of Najd.

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            Jamal / February 16, 2019 and ralli hamid / February 16, 2019
            (297Words)

            “DNA Amarasiri of IQ fame says ”

            With due respect, the problem you have is that you are not using reason, observations and data in support of or against a particular position. When Ibn Ruhd came up with arguments for reason above revelation, and interpretation, he was banished. By the Ulama, using the rulers, the politicians. Just read up on the works of Ibn Rushd, Ibn Arabi and Ibn Kaldun. The Catholic church did that to Galileo, but the Earth continued to rotate on its axis, and orbited the Sun.

            https://www.iep.utm.edu/ibnrushd/

            Amarasiri’s IQ and DNA are fine., thanks to evolution and natural selection. Given below is an IQ and Race question.

            Jordan Peterson: IQ, Race & The “Jewish Question”

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m91vhePuzdo

            The question for you two is that why do you want to follow the Wahhabi-Salafi Saudi Arabians when the Hadith of Najd, presciently predicted by Prophet Mohamed (Pbuh), predicted as follower of Satan, confirmed by the low cognitive ability as the low GMAT scores?

            Quick Post: L&V’s National IQs predict GMAT scores across 173 nations

            https://humanvarieties.org/2014/02/02/quick-post-lvs-national-iqs-predicts-gmat-scores-across-173-nations/

            The GMAT is a graduate entrance test used by more than 5,900 business programs offered by more than 2,100 universities worldwide.

            https://humanvarietiesdotorg.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/gmatregressionplot.png

            Just see where the Saudi Wahhabi-Salafies fall. At 330 they are below Sufi Turkey (540), Shia Iran ( 520 ) and Sri Lanka (480).

            Why follow the Saudi Wahhabi-Salafies and their clones such as ISIS , Islamists and end up in Hell Fire with Iblis, Satan ( mentioned 11 times in the Quran) and end up in hell fire, per Islamic Theology? The Holy Quran expects you to do that, in Quran 3:7, and become a person of knowledge, philosopher, like Ibn Rushd, 900 years ago

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            “Jamal and ralli hamid,

            Saudi sisters risk everything to flee oppression
            (298 Words)

            “The Authentic Hadith of Bukhara and Muslim says that the Wahhabi-Salafies come from Najd, and the recent data from Wahhabis, Sslafies, Isis , Biko ZHaram etc. indicate that they all follow Satan, per the prescient Hadith of Najd.”

            Desperate and alone, Saudi sisters risk everything to flee oppression
            The Ulama, are trying to maintain the status quo of Ulama knows best and how to interpret the Quran and Hadith, and the women are chattel .

            https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/20/asia/saudi-arabia-sisters-flee-hong-kong-intl/index.html

            The night they fled, Reem and Rawan didn’t dare sleep.

            (Hong Kong) It was September 6, 2018. The two Saudi sisters were on a family vacation in Colombo, Sri Lanka.

            Every step of their escape from Saudi Arabia carried the threat of severe punishment or death.

            At 5 a.m., the sisters say they did something they’d never done before. They pulled on jeans they’d bought in secret and walked out of the house without their abayas.

            It was only after they arrived at Colombo Airport that the sisters booked the flight they’d meticulously researched online: SriLankan Airlines flight UL892 departing Colombo at 9 a.m., arriving Hong Kong at 5:10 p.m. local time. From there, they’d take Cathay Pacific flight CX135 departing at 7:10 p.m. for Melbourne, Australia.
            .
            In a letter to the sisters’ lawyer obtained by CNN, SriLankan Airlines has identified the men at Hong Kong as Naeem Khan, SriLankan Airlines station manager, and Noman Shah, a staff member for ground handling agent, Jardine Aviation Services.

            The sisters say the men led them to another area of the airport, where their lawyer Michael Vidler says they canceled the women’s Cathay Pacific flight to Melbourne and booked them, without their knowledge, on an Emirates flight to Riyadh, via Dubai

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        Dr. Ameer Ali, Jamal, Rali Ameen et al,

        RE: MMDA, ACJU, Politicians & Women

        (297 Words) Desperate and alone, Saudi sisters risk everything to flee oppression

        There is another Saudi case, going on right now, where BOTH SRI LANKA and AUSTRALIA seem , to be giving into Saudi pressure, regarding women’s rights, culture, Wahhabii Culture . Ulama and Saudi men.

        The Ulama, are trying to maintain the status quo of Ulama knows best and how to interpret the Quran and Hadith, and the women are chattel .

        https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/20/asia/saudi-arabia-sisters-flee-hong-kong-intl/index.html

        The night they fled, Reem and Rawan didn’t dare sleep.

        (Hong Kong) It was September 6, 2018. The two Saudi sisters were on a family vacation in Colombo, Sri Lanka.

        Every step of their escape from Saudi Arabia carried the threat of severe punishment or death.

        At 5 a.m., the sisters say they did something they’d never done before. They pulled on jeans they’d bought in secret and walked out of the house without their abayas.

        It was only after they arrived at Colombo Airport that the sisters booked the flight they’d meticulously researched online: SriLankan Airlines flight UL892 departing Colombo at 9 a.m., arriving Hong Kong at 5:10 p.m. local time. From there, they’d take Cathay Pacific flight CX135 departing at 7:10 p.m. for Melbourne, Australia.
        .
        In a letter to the sisters’ lawyer obtained by CNN, SriLankan Airlines has identified the men at Hong Kong as Naeem Khan, SriLankan Airlines station manager, and Noman Shah, a staff member for ground handling agent, Jardine Aviation Services.

        The sisters say the men led them to another area of the airport, where their lawyer Michael Vidler says they canceled the women’s Cathay Pacific flight to Melbourne and booked them, without their knowledge, on an Emirates flight to Riyadh, via Dubai

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      It is imperative that Muslim women are included in the discussions. Preferably women should participate without wearing the Abahya This will not only help them to talk properly but also see the facial expressions of each other. Not only the words, even the facial expressions are important to assess their feelings when views are exchanged/expressed.. Some people don’t open their mouth but their facial expressions convey various opinions/views . This is why there is a Tamil saying that “Ahathin Alahu Muhathil Therium- meaning “what is in the heart is reflected in the face ‘. I am sure Muslims are familiar with sayin.
      Not withstanding the above, religions should not be traded by politicians and the governments. These matters should be sorted out by religious dignitaries of the said religion. But most of the dignitaries are conservative in their ideas and may not accommodate radical views ,especially with regard to Muslim women. Due to the conservative and rigid ideas of the Hindus, the matter of allowing women into the Sabarimali temple was referred to the courts and the it gave the right order. But matters are still ‘Slippery’ when women climb the steps of the Sabarimalai Temple. May God save the religions from unholy approach of discrimination against women.

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        “Preferably women should participate without wearing the Abahya This will not only help them to talk properly but also see the facial expressions of each other. Not only the words, even the facial expressions are important to assess their feelings when views are exchanged/expressed”

        Fully agree

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    The Islamic Shariah has the final say on the Muslim marriage and divorce in keeping with the interpretation of the Noble Quran, sunnah of Prophet Muhammed, peace and blessing be upon him with the understanding of the Salaf (the three generations that followed the messenger of Allah)

    The non-Muslims should refrain from commenting on these issues as they expect Muslims to stay away from their way of life.

    May Allah guide those who are enforcing Islamic values.

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      Hussain Fahmy,

      “The non-Muslims should refrain from commenting on these issues as they expect Muslims to stay away from their way of life.”

      “May Allah guide those who are enforcing Islamic values”

      Per Ibn Rushd, the Ulama are not the People of knowledge, referenced in the Quran 3:7. Only Philosophers are.

      The Ulama, using political power, chased away the Phi;philosophers, and burned the Philosophy books. So, the Muslims do not know what the Quran meant,. Besides, the current Quran, is the Uthmanic Codex, and that is the best what is available, produced 22 years after Prophet Mohammed (Pbuh).

      So, according to the literalist Ulama, the the Earth is spread out like a carpet, and the Sun sets in muddy waters. That is why, you need to read up on Ibn Rushd.

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    It is not a problem of Islamic jurisprudence or Islamic law..islamic sources of law are flexible to all time and all ages.it is mentality of these clerics that have to be reshaped of remulded to meet the needs and demands of time ..
    Islamic general philosophy of Islamic law is an instrumental methodology that provide an over role legal method to provide answers to all problems in humanity…no way we could find answer of modern age in the classical thought of medieval Islam…
    Today we all so many legal device in Islamic law but do not have men and women of intellect to relate them to modern world

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      Islamic banks are there, Islamic insurances are there. Why not change MMDA?

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    ” translate the report in Tamil and circulate it widely” – Sure the Muslim women are going to say, “these are not right, and against Islam (in Sri Lanka)

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      See when it comes to Muslim issues, we have dumb people who have been trusting ACJU, dumb decision makers who are trying for decades without an inch moving, dumb activists who don’t want to reach to the very ordinary people and make them understand, without whom this cannot be achieved. And a writer who amplifies the issue to the locals from thousands of miles away…

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    The Muslim Marriage and Divorce Act (MMDA) seems to be the most sacred and inviolable piece of legislation in the country. No one is allowed to reform it or amend it or make the slightest alteration to it. Compared to that, the Constitution of Sri Lanka, which lays down the basic law of the land has been thoroughly abused and ravished by politicians who have played hell and created havoc by blatantly violating its provisions both in letter and spirit. Everyone will kick and play football with the Constitution and suffer no consequences but no bugger has the guts to touch the MMDA. That is a hell of a joke! Why is everyone so scared of the ACJU?

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      Estate Labourer, MMDA is like Exec Presidency. Once you taste it, you can’t leave it :-)

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        Thanks, Sajjad,
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        So long as we have a few Muslim men like you around we still feel that we may be able to get somewhere talking to “your community” as a whole.
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        I would not usually use expressions like “your community” but when we see what animals like Hussain Fahmy have said above, telling us that this is none of our business, we do feel outraged. What you hear from me is not anti-Muslim sentiments, but a call for civilised behaviour from all citizens of this country.
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        See how many words I have wasted; I appreciate your brevity and humour.

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      Estate Labourer,

      You have already said abused and ravished. Why do you need to make another set of rules a victim of that? Since the constitution was abused and ravished, you permit the same being done to any other?

      Law is law, be it MMDA or KMDA (Kandyan) or the Constitution. Amend them through proper ways.

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      Estate Labourer,

      The MMDA was preserved since eternity as a Tablet and is scared and inviolable, just like the Quran per ACJU Orthodoxy.

      Aren’t there any Philosopher -Theologians like Ibn Rushd, who challenged the Ulama Orthodoxy 900 years ago today?

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    Only solution is a referendum among the Muslims to decide its fate. If the majority endorse it, that’s it, implement it. By any means don’t play football with the lives of innocent wemon and children. These men merry underage and innocent girls and damp them whenever they want, and some are with kids. The Qadik courts are very lenient with the men, even their rulings are not strickly enforced, and it’s give chance for men to easily escape from their responsibilities.

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    Azath Sali openly moves with his two wives. What is the message he is giving?

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      Chola Empire,

      Please don’t envy him.

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      Chola Empire,

      I have two more slots left, women. Any takers?

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        DNA Amarasiri,
        There are two aging cows in the village. They are looking for a stud bull.

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          Jamal,

          Amarasiri was referring to the comment that Azath Sally, has two wives , and per MMDA Sri Lankan Muslim men can have up to four wives, and therefore two more human wife slots are available with Azsth Sally, if any Muslim women is interested.

          You can ask Azath Sally, if he is interested in cows.

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      Let him have his two wives. At least he’s responsible for them both and what you imply, dear Chola Empire, is that it is a harmonious threesome.
      .
      In the world today, the institution of marriage is breaking up. We must face up to the fact that many non-Muslim wives have multiple mistresses (sorry, even that word has now been refined to “girl-friend”). That amounts to worse than polygamy, if people want to get moralistic. I’m much less judgemental.
      .
      I think that there are some aspects of Muslim divorce that also have to be addressed. That will involve much more complicated legalism than a layman like me can talk about. That, too, must be discussed, but I will not try to give my two cents worth since I don’t have even one cent’s worth of knowledge to give in that area.
      .
      Minimum marriage age is what we understand well enough, and that we must agitate for. Perhaps also the right for Muslims to give up their religion at any time. Actually, I’m more agnostic than anything else.
      .
      It would be a terrible mistake for us to interfere in any other area of human activity.
      .
      Let us bring up our own children to clearly understand that Muslims are every bit as decent people as any others. If any child of mine wants to become a Muslim, I will not voice any objection; I may be disappointed. No religion is my cup of tea – once organised they all get dogmatic.

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    ” Today, they are more educated, more independent, more professional, and therefore they are a significant component of the nation’s labour force. They are not a piece of property to be protected and sold.
    ………………….
    ………………….
    As one writer put it “Women are the Future of Islam.” ”

    New King appointed a Tamil Buddhist to NPC as governor to insert the thorn “Buddhism” with the easiness of banana. Ranil appointed a Woman as JM when the EU asked Ranil to resolve the Muslim women’s problem. This is a game Lankawe politician play “stab on the back by pretending as they are with you”.

    Like the Article 9, Amendment 6 or Amendment 18, the Amendment 19 too was thought to be a bad piece, one time. But, now it’s abundantly clear it is most manipulative piece of legislation. With the name of Halal, once again Hakeem is delivering the beef (meat of democracy) for Ranil, which neither Tamil TNA nor Buddhist JVP will deliver. Ranil cannot hire TNA for National Unity Goverment. They cannot even dream of JVP. So they are renting a one man party to this purpose. It appears to be the National Unity Goverment in the 19A and Ranil and Hakeem keeping one candidate out of the UNGG are complementary to each other and well planned ahead in 2015. Now Ranil and Hakeem celebrating the harvest of that 2015 effort.

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    Thank you Ameer Ali for pointing out some ACJU-misinformation regarding MMDA1950.
    Should the title be changed to “ACJU, MMDA, Politicians & Women”?
    .
    The clergy through ACJU have this power over the flock like no other.
    MMDA1950 is one of the weapons used and the clergy is averse to ANY change.
    Businesses and politicians have got to be subservient.
    The few female Lankan Muslim activists have been gagged. How?
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    MMDA1950 violates fundamental rights. UNHRC may take this up. The GoSL may suddenly wake up from the pretend sleep. To avoid an impending acrimony MMDA1950 must be wiped off NOW.
    .
    The foresight of activist Prof Ameer Ali must be supported.

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    Muslim women must be given martial art training

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    It’s those Muslim women, should be charged for giving in to such discrimination.

    They’re so blind.

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      RR,
      I thought you don’t like people fighting discrimination?

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    Dear learned Dr Ameer Ali,

    Marriage & divorce for the mankind had been extensively dealt with in Qur’an (when there was no divorce provision in any of the religions at the time of the revelation, it was later included in Christian and Hindu communities). Further religious scholars during and after the Prophet (PBUH) has extensively researched and published all probable combinations of circumstances in the society for the implementation of the laws of marriage & divorce for the mankind.

    Therefore, it is my humble request to you that you do not need to re-invent the wheel now. Please do not rock the boat unnecessarily by calling for the participation of women to re-draft these laws. Islamic women know very well that the marriage and divorce laws in Islam are for their benefit but the implementation of such laws are abused by men of greed who have no fear of the Almighty. I have witnessed in Quazi court in Sri Lanka how men have gone to exploit the women for whom the court had issued verdicts with proper justice.

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      Nakeeb M Issadeen

      Well said brother.

      How many of those who comment here and the writer Ameer Ali know the real problems faced by Muslim women because of the MMDA and the REAL causes for those problems? I bet NONE of them do.

      It is a well known fact that it is not only the Law that is important but also those who are charged with implementing the Law. Regarding MMDA, do any of its Critics know how much of the criticisms levelled at is because of the MMDA and how much due to those charged with implementing it? I am sure they, including Ameer Ali, have No clue about it.

      There will be little point in amending the MMDA without first looking into the structure that is there to implement it. If this is done, most, if not all, the problems attributed to the MMDA will be taken care of. Any shortcomings remaining can be then attended to with little fuss.

      At the same time, why not amend the MMDA, on the basis of the Report, on matters where there is agreement without holding back the entire Report? Surely, that should be simple enough? That will certainly make things that much easier for those who are complaining and the heat and fire will subside to enable further consideration of contentious matter in a more cordial atmosphere.

      Over to the Minister and the Government for consideration and action.

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    This is about almighty -CREATOR being UNSYMPATHETIC towards women. Because the Creator thinks the woman that he created must be inferior to the man. So, there is decade long discussions. Corrupt politicians are also involved but they can not solve the problem. STUPID WOMEN. GIVE UP THAT BELIEF GO INTO ANOTHER WHERE WOMEN AND MEN ARE CONSIDERED EQUAL.

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    YUSUF: How many wives the prophet had ?
    What was the age of the first wife and the second wife.
    Who created this mess, is it Arab Sunnis or the Prophet ?
    IF it is Arab Sunnis, then you practice Arab culture and not islam.
    Because True islam, Mohommadeans are very democratic and not like you barbarians.

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    Why do muslims live. ? This is viliest animal’s country as per their so called almighty or Ballah or Allah. We have to called him Ballah as it defame us saying we non believers are vilest animals. How come such brutal religion was given official status in our constitution. Is lam is a Barbarian’s religion. No rules and regulations whatsoever granted as per it’s teachings. It is total defamations to the other religion worshippers. Islam should be totally banned here. It creates only terrorists. when number is low. no brutal activities but when number is high terrorism may be order of the day. Already we see muslims youth started taking photos climbing on to our religious places. Those are our sacred places. It contains sweets & blood of our Ancestors. They defame not only our religion but also our ancestors & our culture.I feel those activities are very well organised crimes with help of entire muslims community including their so called clergies. Ban koran, ban islam. Otherwise yet another war like elaam war has to be fought soon. with muslims koran & its Islamic literature rehabilitations of followers may be a day dream. Total massacre may be solution. Some might say lots of things. may try to paint Islam as religion of peace. That may be till they get enough power to massacre the others totally. As such precautionary measures needed immediately. banning. of such brutal religion is the solution. if muslims want to continue with Islam they should be exported to total Islamic country like Saudi Arabia.otherwise there may be yet another war soon like one we fought for thirty years.

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      Ranjith (SPRRW) what good civilised and advance religion you are following. Is it worshipping the dead Indian Buddha or dead Jew Jesus or the multiple gods of Hindus including Penis (Lingham) and Vajina (Yoni). Dog keep up with the latest world news according to which the fastest growing religion is Islam and most educated and intellectual people are converting to Islam. Can you tell me why you tree climber?

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        I am a Buddhist. We treat all are equal. No Men called vile animals in our religion like yours. yes fastest growing religion is your ISIS among your youths. May be among youths of violent oriented religions like Abrahamic religions. If somebody defame me I have every right to defame him or her at the same way or at the way I like it. It is upto me to decide. You may think & believe your Allah [edited out] created you but for us your Allah [edited out] only a illusion. nothing else. For you your religion may be everything but for us our religion is only a way of life. That is all. Our dignity is not negotiable at all. Every action has reaction. May be equal to action or may be more than that.

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          ISIS is not a religion and it has got nothing to do with Islam. It was a creation CIA and other powerful politicians of USA and Israel to pit one Muslim country against other.

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          If you treat all equals why the hell you had written disparagingly Islam above? This shows you are a racist fanatic, mind you only idiots become racist and fanatics quickly because their brain carries 90% GOO.

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        Ralli the Islamic infidel, Stop insulting other religions. Did you ever think why Allah is hiding without appearing. Is this because he/she/it is an animal, plant or an inanimate thing which is incapable of anything. Do you know that there are millions waiting to kick him/her/it if he/she/it surfaces.

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          You idiot writing with a pseudo name Mohamed, any intelligent person will never say I have insulted any religion above. If Allah is hiding for you there is nothing to tell you because you are an outright donkey. Stop writing if you do not know what you are writing. Anyway you are not a Muslim, may be a donkey who say I am a Muslim because he or she carrying a Muslim name.

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            Ralli, you are quite right to call Mohamed a donkey, because one such fellow made an asinine statement 1600 years ago that earth is flat.

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      CT I quote from your comments policy.
      3. We understand that people often feel strongly about issues debated on the site, but we will consider removing any content that others might find extremely offensive or threatening. Please respect other people’s views and beliefs and consider your impact on others when making your contribution.

      5. We will not tolerate racism, sexism, homophobia or other forms of hate-speech, or contributions that could be interpreted as such. We recognise the difference between criticising a particular government, organisation, community or belief and attacking people on the basis of their race, religion, sex, gender, sexual orientation, disability or age.
      If you feel that Ranjith(SPRRW)’s tirade against Islam, Muslims is keeping within the bounds of your above quoted comments that you have established, then God Save us all. Kindly consider removing this vitrionic trash as certainly it does not respect peoples beliefs and can well and truly be established as hate speech.

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      Ranjith(SPRRW) Mamey,

      “Ban koran, ban islam” – No matter we ban Islam, Quran or Bible in SL, those who are afraid of own shadow, uncreative and counter-productive will continue to fight against their own shadows to keep them busy with the only thing they are good at.

      “if muslims want to continue with Islam they should be exported to total Islamic country” – If we go by your suggestion, where do you think you belong to? Where can we send you to? India won’t accept a useless guy like you back, unless you got some organs that can be used for another useful human-being.

      If you hate Islam, the very first thing you should do is, be generous. What is not good for you is not good for others as well. So, bring back all your maids and other workers working in the Islamic countries like a hero. If that happens, you will be ready even to sell those used soldiers uniforms and boots if there are buyers to support a living, let alone buying arms for a new war.

      Don’t show your typical “modaya”ness in public.

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        your forefathers were refugees came here from south India.When british came got citizenship rights after helping them to defeat Wellassa uprising. as such you all have no rights whatsoever to continue here defaming our ancestral religions like Buddhism & Hinduism. Islam or the other religions are not suitable for our culture. Your religion defame us saying we are vile animals. That is criminal defamation. One day when you grow up you may try to kill us as per your religion teaching as it says others are vile animals. some of your brothers started that activities already. if you are a child now think it after you get bit older. not now. wish you all the best child. may your all the dreams come true as far as your education is concern. Our people work in your so called Islamic countries as they need our people services. our people did not go there by force. They invited them. If they do not need our people services they can send them back. Our countries survived for generations without help of those countries. As now you claim Sri lankan, try & learn history of the country & its people. 125,000 years old known history can be red if you want. but when you grown up can read more than 76 thousands years old history as well. with TOBA volcanic eruption scenario as well. wish you all the best child. We are not Indians though you are. we are descendants of early hominids migrated from Africa . you may learn them after your O level if you want but your religion says some nonsenses like creation. it is defamation to all the sciencetific knowledge gathered by humankind.

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          Ranjith you are not descendent of those who came from Africa but descendent of Australoid from East. Your statement going to make Aryan Sinhalese really mad.

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          Ranjith(SPRRW)

          “We are not Indians though you are. we are descendants of early hominids migrated from Africa” – First you should have clarified yourself with who are hominids, before saying this would have helped.

          Because of Aryan language, you sometimes claim you are from north India. Because of Mahavamsa, you claim you are from east India (Bangladesh now). However, various recent genetic studies have shown that the origins of the Sinhalese people lie mainly in west Bengal and mostly south India. I don’t care or hurt the feelings of too many very good and decent Sinhalese who are mostly better than Muslims of SL unlike a racist like you.

          “our people did not go there by force. They invited them” – Yes, with all that money they invited these people seeing their excellence, intelligence, high IQ, hard work, the way they developed their own country and the highest number of Nobel laureates the country has produced..LOL. The fact is, partly a concession, low wages and local govt’s carelessness on human-rights of its people.

          We have lived even before the Middle-east gets rich of course, but the fact is at present SL survives because of them.

          I am not insulting my own country here, I am pointing out on the facts and where we might need to change, change our thought that is counter-productive to the nation’s progress. We fight because we belong to different religions but forget to think we all belong to one nation and that suffers because of us. Ultimately what counts in an international stage is, that I am Sri Lankan – I can’t say I am Saudi because I am a Muslim.

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            First of all if you do not know the meaning of Hominids, you should not talk on people Origin. Hominids are humans just after transformation from gorilla like animals. There were just twenty odd hominids transformed from that particular animals as per scientists. I can not remember the first one name but last one’ name is homo sapiens. We sinhalese are not products of last one but Mongoloid are. We can see some mongoloid features from some of our muslims MPs in parliament. Two MPs elected from colombo districts belongs to that category. They shows their afgan ancestry. Definitely Afgen + south Indian ancestry. That is the clear evidence of lankan muslims community. Refugees of south Indians just after defeat of Afghan affiliated delhi sultanate rule there. came here with the help of gujarat + south Pakistani mariners.At that time just before arrival of Europeans gujaratis and south Pakistani traders doing trading with east Indies now called Indonesia . They were the ones who planted Islamism there just helping rival kings of JAVA and the other Islands. When Kotte Kingdom fought against portuguese, Gujarati mariners helped Vithiya Bandara of Kotte Kingdom looking for colombo port for their trading centre. Some paintings of those battles can be seen in our temples. They were Gujarati mariners not ancestors of Lankan muslims community. That was how Muslims community came to being here. our Ancestors were called Homo Naladi came along beaches from north Africa.That is the scientific truth. Not created by your almighty God as you believe. SL mainly survived Tea, rubber coconut exports earlier but with competition from neighbouring countries middle east Employees contribution came number one. It is true. That help came ex PM Mrs Bandaranayaka’s very talented foreign policies. Our Early employees pave the way for big boom. We Sinhalese Buddhists let south Indian muslims refugees stay here. Treated them well.

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              Ranjith(SPRRW):

              Now you seem to have googled a bit about Hominids, that was my point as well.

              “our Ancestors were called Homo Naladi came along beaches from north Africa” – Do you have any proof? Does it mean that you don’t believe in Mahawamsa? What about recent scientific and DNA studies that point your ancestry back to south/east India?

              BTW, Mrs Bandaranayaka’s husband, SWRD had ancestral roots back to Tamil in Tamil Nadu, India. What about JR Jayawardena? Also the same case.

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                DNA you can called it but we too have done our own studies as well. with that results I can say our forefathers are homo naladi came direct from Africa. There may be some races in India with same ancestry. No I do not believe Mahawamsa in full. At that time no scientific studies done by anybody. as such we can not blame author. Anyway I can say for sure Muslims community here done great environmental disasters for Lanka. Made some of our unique creatures out of earth. As such you have no rights whatsoever to be Sri Lankan.

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                  Ranjith(SPRRW) :-

                  “Made some of our unique creatures out of earth. As such you have no rights whatsoever to be Sri Lankan”

                  He..he..he.. that is an angry answer at checkmate. Grow up bro, no point in arguing with a grown up, immature. Good luck

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                    “A complete human skeleton – which could be the oldest found so far in South Asia – has been found in Sri Lanka, archaeologists say.” Quote

                    Unquote :It was excavated from a cave in western province. may be more than 200,000 years or more old. May be homo sapien or Homo naledi. ancestors of present day sinhalese. Some wooden tools also recovered. That is our history. You paraya , Avathakaya( tamil + Afgen soldiers) have no rights whatsoever. This is our land. go and live your place south India or Afghanistan, your grandparents ancestral Lands.

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                As far as I am aware as per my education There is no specific gene that can be determined person’s race. as such how do you say our ancestry is partly south Indian and partly East Indian. If you can prove it you must be granted Noble price for finding new system determining person’s race via DNA test result. Go and present it to noble price determination committee. you will be very rich man with price money. wish you all the best.

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                  “There is no specific gene that can be determined person’s race”

                  Look for “Genealogical DNA test” and “Ancestry DNA test”. I guess these are the studies that traced your ancestry back to south Indian.

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            You said I am a racist. You publish your Koran first verse and show me you muslim is not racist. As a muslim you know it better than me. You treated your koran as your life. May be more than that

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              Ranjith(SPRRW)
              The sorcerer

              “You said I am a racist.”

              No doubt about it.
              You are indeed a racist.

              “You treated your koran as your life.”

              You have been treating your Mahawamsa more than your life.

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    Fathima: Please tell me (and everyone else) what is the proper way?

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    Dr. Ameer Ali

    I am sure you know it cant be done in isolation in Sri Lanka. It has to trascend from MECCA . So make a pleae to Bin Salman. But sadly he has blood on his hand. That of Khassoghi

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      kali,

      ” So make a pleae to Bin Salman”

      At least he let women drive against the wishes of the Wahhabi-Salafi Ulama.

      Isn’t there anybody in Sri Lanka who can go against the ACJU, Ulama?

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    kali,

    ” So make a pleae to Bin Salman”

    At least he let women drive against the wishes of the Wahhabi-Salafi Ulama.

    Isn’t there anybody in Sri Lanka who can go against the ACJU, Ulama?

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    Women suffer because of male gods.

    Why don’t women start to have faith in almighty female god?

    Be tactful ladies, find a goddess from Greek tales, make her almighty without wasting time to tackle the headache of your aggressive men.

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      I am inclined to believe that Hinduism has both men and women gods
      goddesses’ Shivan and Shakthi (female) are inseparable. It is said that without Shakthi there is no Shivan and without Shivan there is no Shakthi .Then there are other female Goddess who are held in high esteem-Saraswathi, Luuxmi. Lord Krisna’s Wife Rathai a beautiful lady.
      It appears that Hinduism give equal rights to men an women.
      Why not create women Goddesses in other religions as well?

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        I’m all for creating more imaginary divine beings. Yes, creating a dozen goddesses would be a most healthy development.

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    Most of the ignorant on Islamic guidance of divine revelation are presenting non-Islamic practices and relating to invalid references. They follow their desires and weak consciences which expires from time to time. Also, they are pointing out on Ulamas and Ulama bodies and penalizing them.

    Islam has flexibility which can be applied at the times of exceptions as same as any law in the world. But some try to make the exception the general law which will not be accepted by any law.

    Islam is a way of life and Muslims have accepted it with their whole heart and valuing it than their lives. It has given to its believers a respectful peaceful just life unlike the prevailing unjust immoral forcefully implanted and attempted to implant cultures in the world in the name of advancement and modernity as women are mostly misused in the name of freedom. We see due to this injustice is popularized and its negative impacts are concealed. Physically matured are forced to conceal their lawful right to fulfill their desires in a legal way in the name of underage. It is the nature which chose to be an adult or a minor. But the surprising thing is on the other hand children are left to be enjoyed by rapists and movies are made to promote premature sexual attainments and left available in public in the name of liberty.

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    Ulamas are clearly authorized and cognized by the prophet as the protectors of divine revelation and they will correct the misinterpretations. If a problem arises at any level of implementation of laws there might be multiple solutions which are introduced by different sources of social lawmakers. The role of Muslim is to obtain the solution preserving the values, basics, principals, and instructions of divine order.

    It is true solutions can be introduced and might not preserve Islamic divine principals. We should not call it Muslim law rather we can name it with a different name which does not denote as Islamic. There is no compulsion in forcing Islamic law for someone who is valuing non-Islamic solution. Is it not an injustice to the brand of Islam to force and include non-Islamic laws and practices into Islam in the name of Islam.

    If you reject a ruling with proof it can be accepted. If anyone says the ruling is not matching to the time or situation or conscience while solutions are put forward by in Islamic way it must be blacklisted and kept away from Islamic sources and from those who willingly follow Islamic divine instructions as it is an injustice to put a fake label on a fake product.

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      RUMI: Why do you needthis much arguments, discussions and revelations to TREAT ANOTHER HUMAN BEING HUMANELY AND AS A HUMAN BEING. IT is simply HITLER type governing in one section of ISLAM. that is the ISlamic man can have more than one wife. I here even in Sri lanka at least one Cleric who has four wives and one politician AZATH SALLY who have two wives. So, why the woman is this low. That part of Islam is not religion it is simply CULT which uses women like objects. Even christianity has such cults and in the past they all take poison and vanish saying it was what GOD ASKED.

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    So be careful when it comes to fake intellectuals who are ignorant on the Basics of Islam who have a fake identity of Islam. Even some introduce themselves as Islamic scholars while they are strongly objected by scholars and their ideologies do not reflect Islamic flavor. These fake intellectuals manipulate the theme of Islam and they present their conscience in the label and brand of Islam. It is a duty of every Muslim who wants to safeguard his faith to identify these culprits.

    If you want a new way of life different to the Islamic way of life there is no barrier to initiate a new religion and way of life which matches all your desires and consciences as per your wish and as you believe solve and suit your current needs. Please do not immolate the Islamic divine law which we are willingly accepting and following at any cost.

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      Rumi(Roman) Saiyaadinah Mohamed,

      Yes, the most notorious of Fake intellectuals are those who follow the Fake Abdul Wahhab of Najd, presciently predicted by Prophet Monamed (Pbuh), whom the Wahhabi-Salafies and their clones ISIS, al Queda, Tslibsn, Book Haram, Muslim Brotherhood etc follow.

      The Ulama are after self-interest, hegemony. The Sri Lankan Muslim women are at their mercy.

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        Rumi Saiyadh Muhammadh,

        Rûm and singular Rûmi

        Read Quran 3;7 Ibn Rushd says only philosophers are people of knowledge

        Rûm (Arabic pronunciation: [ˈruːmˤ]; singular Rûmi), also transliterated as Roum or Rhum (in Koine Greek Ῥωμαῖοι, Rhomaioi, meaning “Romans”; in Arabic الرُّومُ ar-Rūm; in Persian and Ottoman Turkish روم Rûm; in Turkish: Rum), is a generic term used at different times in the Muslim world to refer to

        Rumi is also found in Persian and in Japanese from a different origin

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%BBm

        • ethnocultural minorities such as the various Christian denominations (called al-Rûm) living in the Near East and their descendants, notably the Antiochian Greek Christians who are members of the Greek Orthodox Church of Antioch and the Melkite Greek Catholic Church of Syria, Lebanon, Northern Israel, occupied Palestine and the Hatay Province in Southern Turkey whose liturgy is still based on Koine Greek
        • more generally, to Greek Orthodox constituents of the Ottoman Empire and later citizens of Turkey (Rûmi or Rûm)

        The name derives from Ῥωμαῖοι, Rhomaioi: “Romans”. It refers to the Byzantine Empire, which was then simply known as the “Roman Empire” and had not yet acquired the designation “Byzantine”, an academic term applied only after its dissolution. The city of Rome itself is known in modern Arabic as Rūmā روما (in Classical Arabic Rūmiyah رومية). The Arabic term Rûm is found in the pre-Islamic Namara inscription and later in the Quran. In the Sassanian period (pre-Islamic Persia) the word Hrōmāy-īg (Middle Persian) meant “Roman” or “Byzantine”, which was derived from Rhomaioi

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