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Moratuwa Niqab: Unveiling The Facts

By Khalid Muhaimin

Khalid Muhaimin

Khalid Muhaimin

Niqab Is Not A Controversy But A Ban On It Is A Controversy

While Sri Lanka is struggling to come out from the remnants of its brutal ethnic-conflict, its ethnic harmony after the war is slowly fading away and likely to slip into jeopardy.  Once the war is over, the government should have taken serious measures to reconcile the differences between ethnicities within her country. But in contrary to this, government had turned mute over this matter while remaining silence over the emergence of Buddhist Extremist Group which is posing a critical threat to the basic fabric of the ethnic communities and their harmony. This status quo causing racism all over the country specially on the minorities- particularly Muslim minority which has become more vulnerable to racism in Sri Lanka in recent years. It is very sad to see Islam and Muslim are being targeted all over the country and their religious and cultural values are questioned and ridiculed by these elements.

In line of these events, University of Moratuwa, Sri Lanka duly created by and under the Act No 16 of 1978, has banned the Muslim female students from wearing Niqab, a type of Muslim veil that conceals the whole face, other than the eyes. This ban has come in the dawn of CHOGM 2013 and a time where the government is under immense pressure by the international community for its alleged war crimes and Human right abuses. These extremist elements are creating Islamophobia. This racist syndrome is widespread all over the country nowadays.

University of Moratuwa is the country’s leading technological higher education institute excelling both locally and globally-as they claim. But it is something strange to see these intellectuals are also victimized by the above mentioned syndrome. On December 02, 2013 the Vice-Chancellor of University of Moratuwa, Prof. Ananda Jayawardana was interviewed by the BBC. While I was listening to his interview I realized that how an intellectual mind was duped to believe an unnecessary issue.

Nevertheless, this ban on veil is seriously violating the provisions of the constitution. Chapter III of the 1978 constitution titled as Fundamental Rights provide various fundamental rights for the citizens. Equality before law, Freedom of expression and Freedom of Religion and conscience are some of the provisions among others are in clear violation by this ban. This senseless decision is massively divisive and will only lead to an environment in which the rights of many will be disproportionately suppressed. These fundamental rights are at stake here and this sets out an extremely dangerous precedent not only for the Muslim community but for members of all faith backgrounds.

Without prior consultation of female Muslim students or of key stakeholders, I am extremely concerned that this will act as yet another barrier to accessing further education. I believe that no student should have to choose between their faith and education. Education is a right which, in all free and fair societies, everyone should have access to.

There were only three Muslim students; a tiny minority out of thousands of students in the University of Moratuwa was wearing the Face Veil. Two of them have been wearing face veil inside the University for well over two years and a first year student had been wearing for the last five months without any issues.  As mentioned in the appeal letter by a victim wrote to the VC, these girls were very cooperative to the security checking in the university especially at the main entrance. Apparently one girl with full face veil had graduated from the same University in 2011.

The VC in his interview to BBC Tamil, outlined following reasons for the ban,

  1. Security threat
  2. Hindrance to inter-culture

The responsibility for a university to provide security for students and staff is of paramount importance, however the banning of niqab for this reason is nothing short of a red herring. When it comes to security threats, there is no way to say that those students pose security threats to the university. Muslim Women had been wearing face veil even when the country was under the most crucial threat by the terrorist. I remember, muslim women were wearing face veil during the time suicide attacks were more frequent in Colombo.  No security threats had arisen at that time. But it is ridiculous to say that this small piece of cloth on a university student’s face has caused a security threat to a University.

Freedom of a citizen cannot be restricted in the name of bogus security threats. If wearing face veil poses any security threats, that can be further discussed and debated with the stake holders and sorted out. Have the Professor or the University administration encountered any security problems so far due to Niqab? What they claim is completely hypothetical. Even if there is any offence committed related to face veil, we have Police to inquire and take legal action against those who committed crimes. We have enough provisions in our Criminal Law to punish people who commit crimes. In contrast, a way of dressing is being criminalized inside a state-run university.  It reminds me a quote of the old Ben Franklin line: “He who values security above liberty deserves neither.”

Another argument put forward by the VC is that the University is a mixed cultured, multi-religious and multi-ethnical. So there must be lot of interactions and cohesion between the University students. I totally agree with his view but what I disagree with him is his view that this face veil is a barrier for interaction among students.

It surprise to see the interpretation of “interaction” in this high tech world. Now people are heavily depended on social media and telecommunication. Even the media that the VC had used to express his position did not show his face but just broadcasted only his voice. On the other hand the most influential media of today are also using the same pattern. When we use the phones we don’t even see each other. It doesn’t mean that those people are undergoing any problem in involving in interaction and cohesion through these high tech devices.

When you talk about Inter- culture in the University, then everyone should be allowed to express and practice their culture and belief freely. Many of our universities have students from many different faiths and backgrounds which adds to the richness of their communities. That is the core of a multi society. Ironically when you ban the face veil you neglect a minority of women. If your purpose of banning the veil is in fact to increase the interaction between students and allow them to enjoy their multicultural values, then it is also invalidated by way of your rejecting these tiny minority women. If you feel that these women are not interactive and backward then allow them to come to the University and learn about the so called modern dress code and interactions as you wish. If these women were to disappear from view completely, then how would we ever know about their culture and values? There is no doubt that in this multicultural hub, the university has acted in a way in which equality and inclusivity have been jeopardised and there is now a need for an immediate reversal of this discriminatory policy.

For those who are shouting out there that Niqab was an Arabian culture and it should not be allowed in Sri Lanka, I could tell them that almost all Sri Lankans are wearing dresses not related to our Sri Lankan culture. It might either be Indian or Western. But no one objects to it as it is strange to our national costumes.

We may have our own whims and fancies but it should not go into violating others rights and freedom. Especially, when it comes to education we should be more careful. Not only we are denying a tiny minority’s right to education but also causing harm to generations to come.

One may wonder as to why these intellectual minds are failed to see these realities and in contrast getting encouraged by the extremist elements. I too am with the same feeling regarding the failure of intellectual minds. It is the University which should teach tolerance to the society, but it is sad to see that these universities are intolerable of just three students due to their choice of dress code.

Give me one good reason why a woman shouldn’t be allowed to cover her face in public if that’s what she wants to do. You don’t object to her covering her other body parts? Do you find it offensive if a woman wears sunglasses? Do you object if a woman wears a medical mask and comes to University? And anyway, what’s it got to do with you?

If the likes of Professors in University of Moratuwa are genuinely concerned about security and intercultural cohesion then perhaps they should begin by asking the veiled Muslim women her opinion for a change instead of doing exactly what they supposedly stand against: forcing her to dress in a certain way or rather in this case, forcing her to undress.

It is ridiculous to suggest that the three women, who are thought to wear the niqab in University of Moratuwa, suddenly constitute a security threat. The niqab ban is unnecessary, and will most likely be counterproductive. No one else should follow the University of Moratuwa example, and University of Moratuwa itself should reverse it.

Finally, we must acknowledge that Sri Lanka still carries people who are very peaceful and tolerant with other ethnicities despite a strong racist campaign out there. Deputy Minister of Higher Education, Human Rights Commissioner of Sri Lanka, FUTA and IUSF have already been shown their solidarity towards these victims. The outrage expressed by students and members of the other organisations are telling of exactly what impact this will have, especially in light of the alarming racism by Budhist Extremist Elements that would see the niqab banned in public places. What do other people choose to wear is nothing to do with me, or with you. You don’t like the niqab? Get over it.

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    THERE ARE NO PRIESTHOOD , AND NO SCHOLAR HAS ANY AUTHORITY IN ISLAM TO ENFORCE ANYTHING ON THE COMMUNITY PERIOD.

    BECAUSE ACCORDING TO THE QURAN ,EACH SOUL WILL CARRY ITS OWN BURDEN NO FATHER WILL CARRY THE SON’S NOR NO SON WILL CARRY HIS FATHER’S.

    AND FURTHER THE QURAN STATES ,WHEN QUESTIONED ON THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT THE ONES WHO HAVE WRONGED THEMSELVES WILL SAY WE WERE ONLY FOLLOWING OUR SCHOLARS AND IN RETURN THE SCHOLARS WILL DISOWN THEM AND SAY WE WERE IN WRONG OURSELVES ….
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    Quote:
    [Quran 2:166] Those who were followed will disown those who followed them.* They will see the retribution, and all ties among them will be severed.
    [Quran 2:167] Those who followed will say, “If we can get another chance, we will disown them, as they have disowned us now.” God thus shows them the consequences of their works as nothing but remorse; they will never exit Hell.
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    I feel that the evolution of the Islamic dress codes in Sri Lanka needs to be moderated so as to not seem too confronting or unusual. Muslims in Sri Lanka were largely moderate in dress and custom until a few decades ago. Extreme symbolism of Islam is unwelcome to most Non-Muslims and therefore more subtlety should be practiced, especially given that all issues are quickly politicised and exploited by vested interest groups…

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    “And We have revealed the Book to you which has clear explanation of everything, and a guidance, mercy and good news for those who submit.” (Qur’an 16:89)

    “Should We treat the ones who have surrendered the same as those who are criminals? What is wrong with you, how do you judge? Or do you have another book which you study? In it you find whatever you wish to find?” (Qur’an 68:36-38)

    “And We made the Qur’an easy to learn. Do any of you wish to learn?” (Qur’an 54:17)

    “We did not leave anything out of this book” 6:38
    ”Shall I seek other than God as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed?” 6:114
    ”The word of your Lord is complete, in truth and justice. Nothing shall abrogate His words. He is the Hearer, the Omniscient” 6:115

    ”This is not fabricated ‘hadith’; this (Quran) confirms all previous scriptures, provides the details of everything, and is a guidance and mercy for those who believe” 12:111

    ”We have revealed to you this book to provide explanations for everything, and guidance and mercy and good news for the true believers who have submitted” 16:89
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    The Dress Code for Women in the Quran

    Introduction:

    Before presenting the Quranic rules for women’s dress, it is essential to be reminded of the following:

    1- The Quran is the only source of law that is authorised by God (6:114).

    2- The Quran is complete and fully detailed (6:38, 6:114, 6:89 and 12:111).

    3- God calls on His true believers to make sure not to fall in the trap of idol worship by following the words of the scholars instead of the words of God (9:31).

    4- God calls those who prohibit what He did not prohibit, aggressors, liars and idol worshippers (5:87, 6:140, 7:32, 10:59).

    The command to follow the Quran alone is given very clearly in the Quran, see: Dozen Reasons

    Quranic guidelines for women’s dress

    First Rule : The Best Garment

    “O children of Adam, We have brought down to you garments to cover your private parts, as well as for adornment, yet the garment of reverence is the best. These are some of God’s signs, perhaps they will remember.” 7:26

    To revere God and know that He is always watching us is the basic rule for the dress code in the Quran. Any woman knows quite well what is decent and what is revealing. Women do not need to be told, they know how to maintain righteousness and how not to. God created the woman and therefore He knows that she can make this distinction. This is why God set the rule of revering God and maintaining righteousness as the first rule.

    Second Rule : Cover your Bosoms

    The second rule can be found in 24:31. Here God commands women to cover their bosoms. Before quoting 24:31 let us review some crucial words that are always mentioned in connection to this topic, namely the ‘hijab’ and the ‘khimar’.

    The word ‘hijab’ in the Quran

    Hijab is the term used by many Muslim women to describe their head cover. This may or may not include covering their face. The Arabic word ‘hijab’ can be translated into veil or yashmak. Other meanings for the word ‘hijab’ include, screen, cover(ing), mantle, curtain, drapes, partition, division, divider.

    Can we find the word ‘hijab’ in the Quran?

    The word ‘hijab’ appears seven times in the Quran. Five of them as ‘hijab’ and two times as ‘hijaban’, these are verses: 7:46, 33:53, 38:32, 41:5, 42:51, 17:45 & 19:17.

    None of these ‘hijab’ words are used in the Quran in reference to what the traditional Muslims call today ‘hijab’, that being the head cover for Muslim woman!

    God knows that generations after Muhammed’s death the Muslims will use the word ‘hijab’ to invent a dress code that God Himself never authorised. God used the word ‘hijab’ ahead of them just as He used the word ‘hadith’ ahead of them (45:6).

    The word ‘hijab’ in the Quran has nothing to do with the Muslim women’s dress code.

    Historical Background:

    While many Muslims call ‘hijab’ an Islamic dress code, they in fact oblivious of the fact that the concept of ‘hijab’ has nothing to do with Islam nor with the Quran.

    In fact, the ‘hijab’ is an old Jewish tradition that infiltrated into the hadith books like many innovations that contaminated Islam through the hadith. Any student of Jewish traditions would know that the head cover for the Jewish woman is encouraged by the Rabbis and religious leaders.
    Religious Jewish women still cover their heads most of the time and especially in the synagogues, at weddings and religious festivities. This Jewish tradition is a cultural not a religious one. Hijab was observed by the women of the civilisations that preceded the Jews and was passed down to the Jewish culture.

    Some Christian women cover their heads in many religious occasions while the nuns cover their heads all the time. The tradition of covering the head was practiced thousands of years before the Muslim scholars claimed the ‘hijab’ as a Muslim dress code.

    The traditional Arabs, of all religions, Jews, Christians and Muslims used to wear ‘hijab’ not because of Islam, but because of tradition. In Saudi Arabia for example, all men cover their heads, not because of Islam but because of tradition.

    North Africa is known for its Tribe (Tuareg) that have the Muslim men wearing ‘hijab’ instead of women. Here the tradition has the ‘hijab’ in reverse. If wearing ‘hijab’ is the sign of the pious and righteous Muslim woman, Mother Teresa would have been the first woman to be counted.

    In brief, ‘hijab’ is a traditional dress and has nothing to do with Islam or religion. In certain areas of the world, men are the ones who wear the ‘hijab’ while in others the women do.

    Mixing religion with tradition is a form of idol-worship since it implies setting up other sources of religious laws besides the law of God.

    The word ‘khimar’ in the Quran:

    The word ‘khimar’ can be found in the Quran in 24:31 While the first basic rule of Dress Code for the Muslim women can be found in 7:26, the second rule of the dress code for women can be found in 24:31. Some Muslims quote verse 31 of sura 24 as containing the ‘hijab’, or head cover, by pointing to the word, khomoorihinna, (their khimars), forgetting that God already used the word ‘hijab’, several times in the Quran. Those who are not shackled by pre-conceptions will easily see that there is no command in 24:31 for women to cover their heads. The word ‘khimar’ does not mean ‘hijab’ nor head cover. Those who quote this verse usually add the words (head cover) and (veil) after the word ‘khomoorihinna’ and usually between brackets. These additions are their own words not the words of God and they are clearly added to the text to imply a meaning not found in God’s words. The words of 24:31 are:

    “And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and to guard their private parts and not to show their adornments except that of it which normally shows. They shall cover their cleavage with their ‘khimar’. They shall not show their adornments except in the presence of their husbands, their fathers, the fathers of their husbands, their sons, the sons of their husbands, their brothers, the sons of their brothers, the sons of their sisters, other women, their slaves, the male attendants who have no sexual desire and the children who are yet to attain awareness of women’s nakedness. They shall not strike their feet so as to reveal details of their hidden ornaments. You shall repent to God all you believers, so that you may succeed.” 24:31

    The Arabic word khimar means cover. Any cover can be called a khimar, such as a curtain, a dress. A table cloth that covers the top of a table is a khimar. A blanket can be called a khimar and so on. The word khamr, which is used in the Quran for intoxicants, has the same root as khimar. Both words mean that which covers. The khimar covers a window, a body, a table and so on, while khamr is that which covers the mind. Traditional translators, obviously influenced by Hadith and culture, claim that khimar in 24:31 has only one meaning, and that is veil or hijab. Thus, they mislead women into believing that 24:31 commands them to cover their hair! The correct meaning of the word khimar can easily be verified by consulting any Arabic dictionary.
    In 24:31 God is telling women to use their khimar (cover/garment), which could be a dress, a coat, a shawl, a shirt, a blouse, a scarf and so on, to cover their cleavage/bosoms.
    Third Rule: Not to reveal any of their adornments

    The third rule can also be found in 24:31. Here God commands women not to reveal their adornments (beauty spots) except what is normally apparent (face, hair, lower arms and lower legs .. etc).

    ” …. not to show their adornments except that of it which normally shows.”

    This expression may sound vague to many because they have not understood the Mercy of God. Once again, God here used this very general term in order to allow women the freedom to decide on what is shown of her body. Righteous women will always make the correct decision so as to conform to the general code of morality, and also according to the time, place and occasion.

    The great wisdom of God in granting women this fexible concession can be witnessed every day and in every place. The following example demonstrats the application of this concession:

    A woman attending the masjid for prayers, or attending a funral would wish to wear fairly concervative clothes, but a woman playing sports for example would wish to wear simple light clothes that does not hinder movement.

    If God did not grant this merciful concession in 24:31it would mean that all women would have to wear ientical clothes at all occasions!

    The word ‘zeenatahunna’ (adornments) in this verse refers to the woman’s beauty spots which carry a sexual connotation, examples are “thighs, breasts, back side … etc). At the end of the verse, God tells the women not to strike with their feet to show their ‘zenatahunna’. The way a woman strikes her feet while walking can expose the details of certain parts of the body.

    For more detailed analysis of 24:31 please go to: Corruption of 24:31

    Fourth Rule : Lengthen your Garments

    “O prophet, tell your wives, your daughters and the wives of the believers that they shall lengthen their garments. This is better so that they will be recognized and not molested. God is Forgiver, Merciful.” 33:59

    When we reflect on the above words, we would understand the great wisdom of God. In this verse, God, deliberately said that women should lengthen their garments, but did not say how long is long. God could have said tell them to lengthen their garments to their ankles or to their mid-calf or to their knees, but He did not. God knows that we will be living in different communities and have different cultures and insists that the minor details of this dress code will be left for the people of every community to decide for themselves, as long as righteousness is always maintained.

    Relaxing the Dress Code:

    In the family setting, God put no hardship on the women, and permitted them to relax their dress code. This is apparent from the words of 24:31 (above). In addition, elderly women who no longer expect to get married can also relax their dress code:

    “The elderly women who no longer anticipate marriage commit no error by relaxing their dress code, provided they do not flaunt their adornments, but to abstain from doing so would be better for them. God is Hearer, Knowledgeable.” 24:60

    Reply to those who claim that a Muslim woman should be all covered except for her face:

    Many Muslim scholars have invented extreme rules for women’s dress which are not found in the Quran. Some say that women should be totally covered except for her face, while others who are even more extreme, say that all women must be covered from head to toe except for two holes for the eyes to see!

    1- There are no words anywhere in the Quran which command women to cover all their bodies. Those who preach such un-Quranic rules cannot find words in the Quran to justify this extremity, so they manipulate various words in 24:31 and 33:59 to justify the falsehood.

    2- The fact that God says in 24:31 to specifically cover the bossom indicates clearly that there are other parts of the woman’s body that do not have to be covered.To elaborate on the indication of the words in 24:31, let us ponder on the following example:

    Think of your house and in it you have a garden. You have gardener who comes to look after your garden. One day you tell the gardener: please water the area under the big tree and also water the back of the garden.

    What does this example tell us?
    It tell us that since you specified only areas to be watered, then this is a clear indication that there will be other areas in the garden that are not to be watered. If you wanted the gardener to water the whole garden you would have asked: please water the whole garden.

    When we apply this example to the issue of women’s dress code in the Quran, the same principle applies. If God wanted the whole body of the woman to be covered, God would not have bothered saying “cover your chest” since an overall command to cover all the body would be all that is needed to say. But since God specifies certain parts of the woman’s body to be covered, then there are other parts that do not have to be covered, as long as they are not beauty spots of sexual connotation and as long as righteousness in dress is maintained.

    3- The command to “lengthen the garment” also proves that the woman is not commanded to be covered from head to toe. For if that was the case and women must be covered down to their toes, there would be no meaning to “lengthen the garment”. How can a woman lengthen a garment that is already down to the ground?

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      Anthonio,

      Just curious. What does the

      a) Old Testament
      b) The New Testament
      c) Quran

      say about the Sun going around the Earth and the Earth and going around the Sun.?

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        Amarasiri ,

        Where Quran says sun going around the earth?

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    Not just the writer but majority of Muslim commentators have written here as if their last prophet, I mean pbhu Mohammad had made ‘niqab’ an obligatory dress code for women. One simple question out of blue is; how come women wearing niqab or burka are in a minority among Muslim women. French police has estimated that Muslims wearing niqab in France account for less than 0.04% of the total 5 million Muslim population there (approx. 2000 people). The figures cannot be far out in sri Lanka.

    So the writer must tell us how niqab extend to a correlation of “choose between their faith and education”? They must also tell us whether these niqab clad women a special creed or ones that taken a particular vow of their religion. I was listening the other day to Muslim tele evangelist, Dr Shakir Naik when he said covering the face of women is not prescribed in the Koran. I must say I too have been looking for such instructions by Muhammad but had not found it in Hadith all this time.

    There is a naked Religion in India. Last January, 250,000 Shiva followers have come to the three-month festival in Haridwar. Among them were thousands of naked holy men who travelled on foot to the world’s largest religious meet. And people in India accept nudity without condemn or decry. In Saudi it is the opposite. Leave out walking nude, the government there ban women without a burqa. There, thousands of figures clad in full covered niqab walk shopping mauls even photographed by their escorts.

    But we are in Sri Lanka not Saudi or India. If nudity is not allowed in Sri Lanka why should we allow the opposite, I mean full coved niqab?

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      Does Sri Lanka’s constitution permit the freedom to practice religion? or perhaps either it not enshrined in your constitution or it is violated at will. Freedom of choice to dress as one pleases, within the limits of decency; is a universally accepted Human Right.

      One of the beauties of Islam is the diverse views of the Islamic scholars as long as they keep to the core values of the Noble Quran and the Authentic Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammed (PBUH).

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzAQ0T5FWMQ

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        Maghribi,
        You are questioning “the freedom to practice religion.” I agree, Sri Lanka constitution allow it and indeed everyone is using it to the maximum. But hadith tells us that Muhammad had told his followers to demand the jizya from non-believers at many instances.

        Let me give an authentic Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammed. Muslim wrote in 19:4294 that “If they (non-believer) refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya (tax). If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah’s help and fight them.”

        Is that is your religious freedom and “the beauty of Islam’s diverse view”, Mr Maghribi?

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          Jizya gives privilages and exempts the sick, poor, and the elderly. Modern day taxation is highway extortion and most of it goes to finance aggressive war and corruption. One should study and apply the Islamic economic system to prosper ethically and peacefully. BTW Jizya is voluntary during peace time. The Islamic system we follow has given us tremendous growth.

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            “BTW Jizya is voluntary during peace time.” magribi,it clearly says tax.Tax can’t be voluntary.And who is to decide what is peacetime and wartime.Muslims have been at war all the time.

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              Which Islamic country collects Jizya today and the Arabic word for tax is ‘Dhareeba’ ضريبة

              From the point of view of the Muslim Rulers, jizya was a material proof of the non-Muslims acceptance to the state and its laws, In return, non-Muslim citizens were permitted to practice their faith, to enjoy a measure of communal autonomy, to be entitled to the Muslim state’s protection from outside aggression, and to be exempted from military service and the ‘Zakah’ obligatory upon all Muslim citizens.

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            Jizya is discrimination based on religion.Only non muslims have to pay it.

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              Muslims have to pay the obligatory Zakah, fixed for all times; 2.5 percent on their nett savings.

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                Maghribi’

                In a modern democratic state all citizens are equal regardless of their religious persuasion.There is no special tax imposed on any particular religious community and the state does not interfere in religious matters.Your comment proves that the islamic state is inherently discriminatory.

                Ultimate aim of islamic extremists is world dominance.We must prevent this by all means lest we,the buddhists,hindus,christians and those who don’t profess any religion be second class citizens in an islamic state

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                  Migara

                  Your above statements does not reflect the sentiments in practice.

                  Quote – In a modern democratic state all citizens are equal regardless of their religious persuasion.There is no special tax imposed on any particular religious community and the state does not interfere in religious matters. End of Quote. –

                  The debate is why some citizens of Sri Lanka are prevented from exercising their right to dress decently as they please and consume Halaal food in keeping with their with religious rights. We see these rights are being violated.

                  Jizya is no longer practised and some Islamic countries do not even have any personal income tax on their citizens and on the guest workers.

                  Practising Muslims care less to rule the world as they keep themselves busy preparing to get to an everlasting life. The Islamic world is loosing its patience with Sri Lanka once we called ‘Serendib’

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                    Maghribi,

                    I never said Srilanka is a modern democracy.We have a long to go before we call us that.Look at the west,look at India and Turkey.The niqab is banned in France.Is it because France is a Christian country and they discriminate against other religions?Far from That.The Christians are the majority there but the church has no say in matters of the state.As President Nicholas Sarkozy explained France banned the niqab because it goes against their Republican Spirit.What did he mean by that?That is all citizens are equal irrespective of colour,gender,religion or anything that divides man.These rights just didn’t come out of nothing and the french had to make enormous sacrifices to achieve them.They will never allow anybody roll them back.

                    85% of the Indian population is Hindu but Indian constitution does not give any special status to Hinduism.It is the same in muslim Turkey.These countries had visionary leaders like Nehru and Musthapa Kamal.

                    That the muslims are being harassed here and leaders don’t take a stand against it are granted but that is because they don’t know what democracy is.A theocratic state,islamiic or not will always be discriminatory.

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            If a Muslim man marries a non Muslim woman she has to be a follower of Islam.But it is not so in Buddhism and Christianity.So Islam violates the basic human right, religious freedom, of women.Please prove if I am wrong.

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              Are you mixing up Human Rights with the Rights to our Creator. Divine Rights precedes Human Rights in the Islamic creed. Since when, not following a Religion becomes a Human Rights issue? Religious freedom is the right of every person to choose to practice as one pleases. That’s a Human right.

              The Muslims believe there is no eternal salvation for those who ascribe partners to God. This is non negotiable as it is embedded / innate on the soul of every human being, referred as the covenant to God. Those who violate this covenant will nether find peace nor happiness in this short, limited life. Ascribing partners to God is the only sin which is unpardonable. This is so important that the Prophet (PBUH) spent the first 13 years of his life to instil the correct concept of ‘There is none worthy of being worshipped except Allah and Muhammed (PBUH) is the messenger of Allah.’ to his companions and followers.

              Islam is a way of life with Divine guidance with the option of the freedom to accept or reject. The choice is entirely up to the intellect of a person.

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                “Are you mixing up Human Rights with the Rights to our Creator. Divine Rights precedes Human Rights in the Islamic creed. “

                whom your Creator is not everyone’s creator. and for others it is just a lie. It may be the same to you when it comes to other religions. And normally Human rihgts proceed the so called diving rights (i wonder what that actually mean).

                Divinity or any religion is not a fact, it is a man made thing that started when the humanity lived in dark times. This is the case for all religions, demands by religions cannot overide human rights, if they are incomppatible, the religion has to be changed.

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          Banda,

          Here are the Jizya Tax rates in the US.Federal Jizya Tax and the State Jizya Taxes differs. There are some states with no Jizya Tax such as New Hampshire, Florida and Washington State. California and New York have the highest Jizya Tax rates.

          What tax rates were Muslims and non-Muslims payong at that time? Just curious.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax_in_the_United_States

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        This article follows very much the QURAN’s style.

        According to muslim behaviour, only the muslims can have sexual pleasure with muslim women and all other women are prostitutes and are good only for raping.

        So, muslim want all their women to cover full 100% so that other men cannot look at them. On the other hand, muslims can rape other women in order to convert to their religion or just to have sexual pleasure.

        See how Saudi arabia is treating women going to their country for employment. Saudi arab men rape their women servants and they think that is how Allah wants it.

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          JimSofty

          “all other women are prostitutes and are good only for raping”

          For Sinhala/Buddhists their daughters are good for raping.

          “Saudi arab men rape their women servants and they think that is how Allah wants it. “

          If that is the case why on earth are you sending your wife and daughters to these medieval Kingdoms? All because you men are too lazy to move your bumps and look for jobs.

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            WE send our wives and daughters. So that fat arab can have a break from their rapist husbands.

            While native vedda like Tamils can have free money to live.

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              very welcome break too from unnatural acts.

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            Make no mistake, this vedda is a Kallathoni Tamil from the East.

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              mechanic,

              It is my understanding that the Veddah walked from India when the seal levels were low and the Island was connected by a land bridge.

              The “Kallathnis”, are the Illegal boatmen were Tamils and Sinhala.

              So you must be a Sinhala Kallatgoni, who became Mahanama Sinhala Buddhist Kallathoni.

              Check your DNA. You can figure out.

              Here is the Link.

              https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/

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            Vedda, Following many a woman in other countries, some Sri Lanka women too chose to go to Arab countries to work and earn money for the betterment of their families. Muhammadans mistreat such guest workers show their values and inherent culture. I wish I can stop this exploitation altogether. Now that the government is developing our economic base fast, I can see clear signs it won’t be long before our women stop going to Arab countries as domestic workers.

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              ….fish smelling bengalis are nowhere there to stop the trend of going as maids sooo? rajapassa mahawamse syndrome!!

              beastiality! _________ <3, ◕‿◕<|3, ◕‿◕

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              yes,chandra,there will be plenty of jobs for them at mattala airport and hambantota port and hambantota cricket stadium and hambantota………etc etc

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              “Now that the government is developing our economic base fast,”. Chandra aren’t they also developing our public debt to GDP fast?Now it is 80% of GDP.When will this development end?When it becomes 150% like greece?For the 80% already attained are we getting enough revenue from the development especially hambantota for paying our loans and interest back.If they were not chopping trees so fast we could at least when the money dries up tried to pluck some from the trees.Now that option is also fading fast with the illegal felling and government cutting acres and acres to pay EPF.

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              chandra

              “Following many a woman in other countries, some Sri Lanka women too chose to go to Arab countries to work and earn money for the betterment of their families.”

              I beg to differ, a lot of women have been sent to medieval kingdoms to work under appalling conditions while their lazy husbands stay at home and enjoy good life.

              Remember all decisions are made by men on behalf of the women folks in this part of the world. Even the women who achieve powerful positions in the government and bureaucracy behave like men and perpetuate men’s domination. Even Mrs Badaranayake was said to have used men toilets in parliament to fit in with the male culture.

              If MR could fix the 30 year war in couple of years why couldn’t he fix the economy and decent secure employment for women in the past several years or for that matter in the 65 years since independence? Even the jobs that were created in garment factories are no better than the ones available in medieval kingdoms.

              Look at the working conditions of female domestic servants in this island. Let me know how they are treated by nonas, mahathayas and their brats.

              The situation didn’t arise over night, the result of long term neglect, complacency, stupidity, .. on the part of the government and its bureaucracy. Their record is appalling, as a favour to the women please stop defending the state.

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              chandra,

              Bangladesh and india are not sending women domestic workers to Gulf. i hope further you will understand what i mean. Sri Lanka is far better living standard is South Asia and it’s not required to send female domestic workers to gulf.

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            vedda who didn’t have even an amuda and never even bothered to til the land even to grow something talks as if his lot have been the busiests of the busy bodies.

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              I am no muslim

              “never even bothered to til the land even to grow something talks as if his lot have been the busiests of the busy bodies.”

              We do not have land to till as you know very well both Tamil and Sinhalese Kallathonies continue to grab my ancestral land and your family would have directly benefited from my land.

              Give us the stolen land we will show you how to till and at the same time keep the environmental equilibrium.

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            “For Sinhala/Buddhists their daughters are good for raping.” Only if their mums are getting bonked by muslims in the middle east.Even pious sinhala bhudhists need a inlet for their outlet.

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            Vedda deliberately doesn’t see Arabs follow their prophet and love to screw 9 year olds. Why

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        “One of the beauties of Islam is the diverse views of the Islamic scholars” says regular commentator Maghribi. Does the man think all others are as nutty as he is. From day one Islamists have been killing each other on the Sunni-Shia spat that has now spread to other violent divisions like Salafism, Wahabism, the Ahmadis and what else have you. There is no beauty, peace or acceptance of other views in this unfortunately combative and disorderly religion – fashioned entirely out of Judaism and Christianity. Both the latter religions have seen peace and unity almost in their long history. But not the Muslims and Islam. Does not take much to know why.

        It is time the many Muslim commentators in these threads stop singing the praise of the so called virtues of their religion. Sri Lankans are not fools and know what is good and what is not.

        ADJP

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          A.D.J. Perera ,

          That’s why Hitler killed 6 million jews. You must read the history. Even now the terrorism created by church and funded by them. Good examples LTTE in Sri Lanka, now BBS…………………..

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      You say

      “French police has estimated that Muslims wearing niqab in France account for less than 0.04% of the total 5 million Muslim population there (approx. 2000 people). The figures cannot be far out in sri Lanka. “

      and I ask……….. why the fuss then?

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    THIS ARTICLE IS A TYPICAL MUSLIMS WRITING ASKING DEMOCRACY BECAUSE HE WANTS HIS ISLAMIC SYSTEM TO DOMINATE AT THE EXPENSE OF OTHER RELEGIONS. IT IS SIMPLY ISLAMIZATION OF THE WORLD,

    Muslims all over the world where other religions dominate are usimg the country
    s democratic system to ESTABLISH THE ISLAMIC SYSTEM. THAT IS WHY WE HEAR always this NIQAB, HIJAB and all other clothing styles (that suit to desert cilimate middle east countries), Sharia law, Hala food, and Islamic law.

    On the other hand, in countries where islam is dominating they do not allow other religious practices.

    In countries where Islam is a sizeable population they destroy christiand chruches, kill christians and hindus and destroy hindu kovils and buddhist temples. See indonesis, Bangladesh, African countries and India.

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      My foot :(

      It is nothing but the unfairness in the country at present.

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    The readers should be warned: the writer of the article, Khalid Muhaimin, and the forces he represents are the next big threat to Lanka. Unlike the LTTE they will enter the mainstream using the prevailing democratic system and subvert it and eventually enforce Wahabbism and Sharia. While applauding the management at this University, I highly recommend the Lankan Intelligence to vigorously monitor men like these because they are ALREADY a part of the fanatic fringes and will soon unleash terror in Lanka. Be warned.

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      Jay Chambers

      “the writer of the article, Khalid Muhaimin, and the forces he represents are the next big threat to Lanka.”

      The biggest threat is the clan and what it represents, the Sinhala/Buddhist hegemony and eventual assimilation of rest of the minorities into one nation, one state and eventually under one Hitler.

      “Unlike the LTTE they will enter the mainstream using the prevailing democratic system and subvert it and eventually enforce Wahabbism and Sharia.”

      That is what we have witnessed in the past, Sinhala/Buddhist using the then prevailing democratic system and subverted it and established majoritariakn rule and eventually enforced Sinhala/Buddhism and perverted clan rule.

      “I highly recommend the Lankan Intelligence to vigorously monitor men like these because they are ALREADY a part of the fanatic fringes and will soon unleash terror in Lanka”.

      Of course these are members of unintelligent outfit which tends not to do the right thing but subservient to clan which does all things illegal.

      Keep an eye on the clan, the danger within.

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    Phew! What a Commotion about a dress that man has invented and certainly not by the GOD. For those who believe that God created man and wanted the Females to be covered, then God should have provided clothes also. Instead Adam had to cover his nudity with a fig leaf. For many millenniums, mankind were pure naked till clothes were invented.

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      “For many millenniums, mankind were pure naked till clothes were invented.” That is why we should go back to living the way nature intended us to.I for one will happily go to work in my birthday suit if the law permits.Only thing i need for my comfort is my sandals because the soles of my feet have become sensitive due to the fact that we have been wearing sandals for so long.Also i don’t want my feet to get dirty.
      PS.I will also use it as a test for recruitment of women.At the interview if she runs out of my room screaming then she is out.If she smiles and shakes my hand and introduces herself and continues the interview to the end,she is in.

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        Shankar just for laughs.

        In a nudist Colony a man is introduced to a woman. The mam shaking the woman’s hand tells that he is glad to meet her. She replies, ‘I can see that’.

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          The necessity to match “porondams” does not arise at all.

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      Gamini,

      There was no Adam and Eve and no evidence for that. They evolved from primates. There was no dress code for primates. Were Adam and Eve primates? Or did they drop from the Sky based on the scribes imaginations?

      Humans diverged from apes about 3 million years ago, and the primate apes have 48 chromosomes, and humans have 46 chromosomes. The human Chromosome 2 was formed by the fusion of two chromosomes.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkVmhXhPvqk

      Chromosome 2 – What separates chimps from humans?

      Published on Dec 1, 2013
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      At the genetic level chimpanzees are almost indistinguishable from humans, so how did the formation of human chromosome 2 lead to our divergence from our primate relatives?

      Geneticist Aoife McLysaght heads to Dublin Zoo to explain more…

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    jIM THE SOFTY– DO NOT TALK ABOUT OTHER RELIGIONS THAT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ,, Jews & Christian women are permitted to continue their religion even after marriage —

    Ignorance is most dangerous- increase your knowledge -but do it without prejudice,, and I have not hidden my faith ,if you wish to respond especially in you usual cowardly crude manner ,, let us do it openly prove your true Id ,your true faith, and I will do the same and let us have a debate i will deal with you according to the brand of faith you are wearing… if you can not then shut up.. please. stop making an Jack Ass of yourself..

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    Hijab, niqab are not Islam that some other muslims talk.

    IT is simply arabic – WAHABISM and oppression of women for the benefit of men.

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    Arun,

    Here is some old testament info on the o Commandments that was revised by Chris Hutchins ….

    Christopher Hitchens Revises the Ten Commandments

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9weXGtCk7c

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    @Jim Softy thank you for admitting you are a jackass.

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    Bhumiputhra , if you dont know about bible , just dont talk nonsense or first read what is in that clearly and give your comment.

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    @Maghribi – When did quran get different versions? So The Noble quran is only true quran? can we burn the rest of The Quran The world Noble is not mentioned?

    BTW where did the so called suna (meaning tradition) collected on hear say , passed down by many who never was present , besides why did the wait over 200 hundred years and untill The Prophet pass away to start writing?

    Can you please tell me if this so called Suna means in Arabic tradition ? is it divinely inspired just like the Quran? and do you accept every single word of your authentic Bukhari’s Hadis perfect? and the suni accepted scholars narrations perfect?

    If so are all other Muslims who read and follow Qurans that have suddenly been flooded into sri Lanka with full of all the Hadees (which was kept apart in separate books in past) Which carry the word in Bold letters a Noble Quran is the only true Quran ? am I to take this as your authority? because that is what your comment says..

    Which also means to say with a tongue in the cheek who are not Wahabis ,because this is the only Quran strictly approved by whabi sect and they do not follow any other book ,it is the only Quran that is Interpolated with man’s words along with The Lord’s ,and also wahabis have your own Mosques ,you do not pray in any other Mosques and also you consider only whabis as Muslims? is this not correct?

    Am waiting for your answer to continue our discussion..I have a lot to ask you.

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    QAmaraisri – do not waste peoples time asking stupid questions you do not need the Tora,Bible or the Quran to know that today, just Google and you will get many theories .

    and BTW Pls you and native Veda are tow people whoz comments I have had some respect -please do not stoop to the level of jack asses.

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    In our country the Buddhists are exposed to danger and terrorism. We therefore do not want anybody to cover their identity because this will give terrorists the opportunity to hide from the public.That is why we are against Niqab. The majority decision matters in solving such problems

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    rephrase –the word none believers ,rather -there are no such people as none believers , everyone has a belief of their own even the ones people brand as atheists, it is your narrow mindedness that does not let you conceive it ,if God was as Prejudiced as you are, can you imagine what will be the state of the world? God knows that everyone serves him in a different way and he rewards them just and fair , the sun, the rain and all other resources distributed to all men is proof of that,it is very offensive to call people none-believers just because they do not believe what you believe in. a very derogatory terminology used by Catholics,all Denominations of Christians ,The Jews and traditional Muslims (Sunni Muslims/Wahhabi Muslims and Shiite Muslims in particular) it is wrong..

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    GAMINI -STOP TALKING SHOP, EVEN IN MUSLIM COUNTRIES WHERE TERRORIST OPERATES AND THE FACE VEIL IS ACCEPTED AS CULTURAL NEVER HAVE USED IT, WHY IN SRI LANKA , THAT IS NOT VALID, BUT I DO AGREE THE FACE VEIL IS AN UNWANTED AGITATION AMONG THE SOCIETY ., CREATING such agitation gives the extremists an excuse to fulfill their hate crimes.

    Sri Lankan Muslims needs badly a good smart thinking leader to unite the community and lead them in a direction of wisdom and need to educate the community about their priorities and how to survive as a minority of a minority in Sri Lanka, otherwise we may become frequent targets and Looking at what happened in Bosnia and what is happening openly in Burma and also shockingly accepted and justified the world most honored Nobel prize winner , I do not think I need to elaborate anything more about the fate of The Sri Lankan Muslim’s future.

    So it is only wise to not provide any excuse to extremist elements .
    sadly most Muslims are not even aware of how serious is the situation of hatred has spread Island wide towards them, they feel it will go away, well let us hope so.

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    BTW -i want to say a words on this often repeated term by our majority brothers of this Island which was first thought by our great war hero who has become a a house hold name to describe a comedian- referring to the minorities as tourists , well while some what agreeing to the hero comedian and his followers ,I want to remind that we are all tourists not just in Sri Lanka but in the whole world ,every single one of us for that matter , in fact we are all worst than tourists ,at least tourists know exactly when their term of stay ends and have the flexibility of exiting when ever they want to their comfort zone , while in truth all of us including a part of arrogant segment of the majority of this Island who in their hallucination believe the minorities are tourists and they are residence of permanency is guaranteed do not realize that they are mere evacuees waiting to be evacuated in manners that may even be in means of tragic an pain any moment ,their comedian hero’ who programmed this word tourists is today a living example who nearly escaped such a tragic and miserable exit and because of his arrogance look what has become of him.. his heroic rank stripped off ,he is like a man lost his sanity running a mock struggling for power when he should have retired with respect and enjoying life with family and friends- this is the result of arrogance humiliation.

    The Rajapakshes are installed not by people ,but by a power beyond simple men’s ability to conceive, they will be here on this island for a very, very long time , they are here to deal with the cruel hypocritical people who inhabit this Island ,nothing happens by accident everything is planned perfectly by the high heavens, lot more to come in the new year 2014 ,that will shock not just minorities but even the majorities , If anyone can handle the evil inhabitants of this once blessed island that has today turned to be one that is cursed due to the hearts of most people -it is none other than The King Mahinda -hail Mahinda Rajapakshe !!!!!!!!!!!!… long live The Royal Family of Rajapakshe , long live The rebirth of the avathar of Kind Dutugamnu – soon you will be wearing the golden crown you were handed in Russia and sri Lanka will be established under the law Ultra traditional Buddhism a similar traditional religious system that is of modern Israel – then you will realize the reasons and plans of the powers of the high heavens.

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    @Arun Thambimuththu-Thank you for the verse ,yes it coincides some what with the Quranic statement ,but with some variations and that is not an issue as the Bible proves The eternal blessed water well in mecca exist even to dated and a Japanese and a European scientist have done deep research and study of the water and have come up with amazing benefits for the human body.

    And Sri Lankan Muslim , can you please stop proving that your a stupid silly Lankan Muslim?
    The Prophet never did anything what you have stated you better rephrase your statement unless you belong to another faith and not Islam? The prophet never uttered or wrote or got anyone to write a single word of The Quran on his own free will , except through divine revelation from God through Angel Gabriel-either you are not a Muslim or a Muslim by birth , who knows nothing about Islam , I know two Muslim brothers one stood on his head stating that God made man in his own Image ,this giving god a man’s Image and the other one is classic after living in Europe for along time washing the white man’s back side and doing everything and anything what the white man was doing , suddenly when his empire was almost collapsing he runs to mecca ,does his Ummra ,comes back , then continues his masters life style then gets whacked again and he runs again to mecca and becomes knighted as hajar (Only In South Asia) now he is suddenly a Islamic Scholar and states the entire Quran is all history and it is only the hadees Muslims must follow his ego had ultimately consumed him fully.. so be careful when you quote the Quran ,do not be careless like quoting the hear say hadees- that is only if you are a Moslem. but if you belong to another faith and just using a Muslim name like FxxxCkshima , no issues,,

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    ATTENTION;EDITOR,
    SIR/MADAM
    ———

    Correction; instead of sri Lanka will be established under the law Ultra traditional Buddhism a similar traditional religious system that is of modern Israel – then you will realize the reasons and plans of the powers of the high heavens.

    —————————————————————–
    Should read as-
    Correction; instead of sri Lanka will be established under the law Ultra traditional Buddhism a similar traditional religious system that (ARE FOLLOWED BY SOME ) of modern Israel – then you will realize the reasons and plans of the powers of the high heavens.

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    Paul and Corinthian Women’s Head Coverings

    Paul and Corinthian Women’s Head Coverings (Veils)
    gbgm-umc.org/umw/corinthians/veils.stm‎

    Paul and Corinthian Women’s Head Coverings

    by Nancy A. Carter*

    | House Churches | The New Creation | Women’s Hairstyles | Paul’s Comments |

    Livia with veil – 10523 Bytes
    Have you ever been told that women should wear long hair and/or that women should wear hats in church? Usually 1 Corinthians 11:2-6 is cited as a biblical basis for observing these customs. Statements like this may lead you to wonder, “What kind of hairstyles did the Corinthian women wear? What did the veils look like that Paul may have asked them to wear?”

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    A very good debate ,must watch Muslim women VS Muslim woman on the French full face covering
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    http://youtu.be/nQbu21CHOfA

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    @Alan -agreed we did not have a problem then , but we have one now.. and the requirement is more traditional and individual based on their sect or school of Islam and the number is minority of minority of minority.

    So what do you propose to do? drag the entire community into a blood bath to satisfy the requirement of a few based not on Islam or Quran , but on the thought of a Scholar and his school of Islam?

    I do agree The Nikab (Face cover), the Kimar ul shar(Hair cover) or Kimar ulra- ees (Head cover) or Abaya (cloak) … definitely have many benefits although it is not an obligation , it can protect a women from many harms not only sexual harassment , but also from pollution protection from breathing in poisonous mercury on daily basis, protection of the hair, and skin etc.

    But frankly speaking Islam is a very piratical way of life rather than an indoctrinated cult .

    Most of the compulsion on the dress code comes according to the schools of Islam which I believe in the past was done to as assimilate the followers with the local environment .

    As long as we conform to the rules mentioned in The Quran I believe it should be adopted without unnecessarily creating agitation among the others and causing culture conflict which will only drag the whole community to unnecessary distress which can be compromised by adhering to the Quranic dress code.

    Today we have a cause we must get justice as citizens of this country which is of greater importance and it is our lawful dietary , we do not know anymore what our children and us our consuming , long ago it was not an issue ,but today people go to any extend to make money we no longer know if we are eating meat of cattle that are healthy ,clean not sick , not that has died by some decease , and we have no way of making sure what is contaminated, Muslim dietary is not just about an Arabic word called halal.. it is more than Halal , halal and thayab , what is permissible and clean without any contamination ,Muslim dietary has come to a point of regulation not just meat , but all that is used as food and even for preparation of food, It has become a necessity to make sure we do not consume anything that will harm our health.

    I really think it is no big deal if some people are prejudiced with the word halal , why not The Ministry for Muslim affairs request the parliament to approve the use of a word like Lanka Muslim dietary code ,like fit for vegetarians in the UK..? this is what is more important right now.

    may Peace prevail.

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    Educating those frogs in the deepest wells of Sri Lanka
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    To All The Silly Lankan Forgs in the deep wells who mock Muslim ladies as gony Bilas and believe only Muslim women cover their faces and also claim they are subjugated either by their male relatives or husbands , where else it is opposite they choose to wear it as their right of choice to dress what they want and there are many amazing Muslim Ladies with the veil who are well employed and also going about attending to their daily chore uninterrupted most of the times more efficient than men.

    While ,in some parts of North India the HINDU women are openly subjugated to wear the veil all the time and are confided behind walls and are practically slaves serving not only their husbands but the entire family members of the Husband .
    Nobody talks of this , after all they are not Muslims , in some parts of India Hindu terrorist are engaging in terrorism no one talks of it ,why they are not Muslims, in Ireland , south America and many more , this is the problem , in many cases sickness of the body if can not be fully cured at least it can be contained , same with the brain , but the filthy sickness of the heart known as prejudice has no cure until they are consumed by the fire they themselves fuel .
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    Ghoonghat – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghoonghat‎
    In ghungat, a woman will veil her face from all men to whom she’s related by … There is a small minority of women that use the fabric to cover their whole face, chest, … This type of veiling is still popular with Hindu brides and is observed on the … of northern India, especially in Haryana, Gujarat, Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh, ..
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    Note;

    I am sure those who follow The Hindi Serial dubbed in Sinhala would have seen how Sapana and other women were treated and forced to cover their faces..

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