By C.V. Wigneswaran –
C.V. Wigneswaran – Northern Chief
In recent times complicated political issues and activities made the life of the people of this area precarious. The youth here therefore revolted against the Central Government and its agents due to the repressive measures they resorted to. This in turn led to a long war which took the lives of thousands and thousands unnecessarily.
*Translation of the Chief Guest Northern Province Chief Minister C.V. Wigneswaran’s speech at the National Youth Services Council organised 28th National Youth Sports Festival held at Jaffna Central College Playground on 10.09.2016 at 9.00 am:
The officials of the National Youth Services Council, sportsmen and sportswomen who have come over from various parts of Sri Lanka to participate in this Sports Festival, other officials, my dear brothers and sisters and children,
28th National Netball competition orgainsed by National Youth Services Council in relation to the National Youth Sports activities are being held in Jaffna today and tomorrow. It is indeed a happy occasion for us.
The National Youth Services Council comes under the Ministry of National Policy and Economic Affairs headed by Hon’ Prime Minister. This Council organises cultural and sports awareness programs, “Youth got Talent” and other programmes throughout the Country in order to develop the capacity of youth to bring out better understanding and cultivate better relationship among various youth populations in the Country.
No doubt such activities are to be welcomed. But it is very essential that we must also understand our Peoples’ fundamental expectations. We have no doubt in our minds that we want to maintain the identity and individuality of our people of the Northern and Eastern Provinces at any cost and any Constitution drafted for the Country must reflect such identity and individuality.
We also have no doubt in our minds that it is only after the promulgation of such a constitution that it would be possible to engender reconciliation and goodwill. It is only when all people of this Country including its youth population obtained equal rights and status that it would be possible for them to state with satisfaction that “We are the proud citizens of this Country”. Today all of us here in the Northern and Eastern Provinces are indeed within the control and supervision of the Military and our people are fully aware of this state of affairs.
Generally females participate in Netball competitions while males play Basketball, Cricket, Soccer and other such games. Today’s Netball competition is significantly different in that males are also participating in this Netball competition.
Sports help to make the body active and healthy. It makes youth to perform their duties with enthusiasm and eagerness. Sports promote tolerance, a spirit of accommodation, brotherhood and other such excellent qualities. Therefore such activities as organized today would no doubt promote better understanding among the student population.
But I would like to flag an important matter with the youth who have come from the South here. For over 2000 years Northern and Eastern Provinces in this Country have been the traditional homelands of the Tamils. No doubt for some time many Tamils were Buddhist. (Professor Dr.Sunil Ariaratne calls them “Demala Baudayo”) But thereafter they returned back to their original Hindu Religion.
In recent times complicated political issues and activities made the life of the people of this area precarious. The youth here therefore revolted against the Central Government and its agents due to the repressive measures they resorted to. This in turn led to a long war which took the lives of thousands and thousands unnecessarily.
None resorted to this war wantingly. When people belonging to their community were arrested, tortured and killed, the youth among us could not bear it. Right in front of their eyes when they saw their aged parents, brothers and sisters being harassed, assaulted and killed during the riots of inter alia 1958, 1961, 1977 and 1983 they naturally could not bear it. Again in 1974 they witnessed what happened at the World Tamil Conference in Jaffna. Added to this standardization was introduced in education in order to prevent large numbers of Tamil students entering Universities. Youth here could not contain themselves any more. It is then that they decided to take up arms.
Many leaders of the South have referred to these incidents as incidents of the past. But how could the unfortunate parents who had lost their dear ones accept them as incidents of the past?
What relief have they been prescribed for their losses? Surely those who have lost their loved ones have a right to expect justice and fair play in these matters? What relief have the Tamil people received up to date? These are questions that loom large among our people.
Within these three days during which those from the South have come over here to reside among our student population, it would be possible that you would observe our friendly traditions and brotherly and sisterly behavioral patterns. Our youth would normally give respect to those who come from outside and treat them well as part of their spirit of traditional hospitality. They are only asking the Southern electorates to allow themselves to live independently and with dignity just like the others in the South within a united Country. But unfortunately Southern leaders seem to be pursuing a hegemonistic agenda which we find difficult to understand.
We have been discussing these matters with the Southern political leaders for many years. But there had been very little progress. What is given by one hand is taken away by the other hand. It is the same drama that is continuing to take place.
Many an International leader and/or their representatives come over here to see us. We share our problems with them. We tell them we are not pursuing the path of separation. We speak of our right of self-determination within a united Sri Lanka. Considering what has taken place in other countries in recent times many of them agree with us with regard to our reasonable demands.
If we ask for the right to live in dignity on our lands in the North or East the Southern political leaders state that we are pursuing the path of separation. Such statements trickle down to the rank and file of Sinhala people also. They refer to us as extremists. That makes them feel antipathic towards us.
Therefore we would like to talk directly to the Sinhala youth here today in order that they will carry our message to their parents. Please discuss us with your parents. Please discuss us with your friends. Please discuss us with your neighbours. Please tell your dear ones what is necessary is that all of us are able to live with goodwill and understanding. Please tell your people it is wrong for one community to try to dominate another community. It is necessary for each one of us to feel that we are sovereign in our country. It is only then there would be peace and goodwill in this country.
South Africa solved their constitutional problems and then set up the Truth and Reconciliation Commission. Here in Sri Lanka continuing to station the Military amidst us without solving our political problems, the Government is trying to indulge in the reconciliation process. This is like a person who stands outside at the side of a well entering into an agreement with another fallen into the well. We have to examine whether the person who had fallen into the well has the freedom to enter into any agreements voluntarily. We feel that only after bringing such a person out of the well that a proper agreement could take place in dignity and equality. Political empowerment is therefore necessary.
The youth are the back bone of our country. There are many things that youth can accomplish if they decide to do so. Therefore I make a request of all of you to understand our predicament, our needs and priorities in order to help every one of us to live with dignity and equality and as equal citizens of this country.
Let me next come to the National Youth Services Council. The Council is striving hard throughout the Country to work for the development of our youth, to make them good citizens, valourous youth, men and women bent on living as siblings. They have set up National, District and Regional bodies plus Youth Committees at different levels and working through them. So long as political considerations do not motivate these bodies they are to be welcomed. If political or party affiliations are introduced into these bodies you can be rest assured harm will befall them.
We are not aware of the extent and scope of the activities of the Council in the North. But we are aware that they are taking steps to construct a Cultural Centre in Kopay on a 5 acre block of land to develop the arts and culture of this region. Many a traditional dance and musical form has been abandoned in recent times. It is necessary to identity them and at least document them for the benefit of our future generations. Next week a cultural programme has been organized in Batticaloa to stage abandoned and forgotten social, musical and dance forms in order to re-introduce them to the public.
Our children have a natural aptitude for music. But they lack oriental and western Music colleges to study music properly and professionally. They also lack schools to teach the students instruments of different kind. The Council could examine their possible contributions in this regard.
It is the student period which is ideal to obtain fitness in any field. Unless our youthful days are spent on mastering various arts and crafts it would be foolish to regret later. The period from infancy to youth has been found to be the most sensitive period which could affect the character building of our children. If children are not properly channeled during this period they could be introduced to such negative habits such as alcoholism, Drug use, street fights, violent behaviour and use of dangerous weapons. Because some of our children receive allowances from abroad from their kith and kin many of them ignore education and discipline. Theirs is the formative age. They might be influenced by the Cinema to indulge in negative activities not realizing they are detrimental to themselves as well as to the Society.
The teenage period must therefore be channeled properly teaching them during that period their school curriculum as well as extra-curricular matters such as arts, fine arts, sports, scouting and other useful activities. If our children are bound to these activities they will have little time to consider negative ways of behaviour. I have no doubt the National Youth Services Council will strive hard to formulate the necessary plans in this regard and implement them in due course. Let me conclude requesting our youth present here to share our views on political aspirations with their dear ones back home. Let me wish you a successful sports festival today and tomorrow.
Thank you.
De Silva / September 11, 2016
What is wrong with these Tamils?
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But I would like to flag an important matter with the youth who have come from the South here. For over 2000 years Northern and Eastern Provinces in this Country have been the traditional homelands of the Tamils.
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When just 300 years ago the entire NE was predominantly Sinhala, why do these fools keep repeating the same thing?
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http://www.jaffnahistory.com/Northern_Province/Sinhala_Villages_of_Jaffna_1695.html
http://www.jaffnahistory.com/Eastern_Province/Tricoil_to_Bathkalapuwa.html
The original collection lies here.
http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/afbeeldingen/kaartencollectie/zoeken/q/zoekterm/ceylon
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So what does this mean? It means Tamils DO NOT HAVE A CAUSE!
They are responsible for all the violence and mayhem they caused. They need to hold themselves accountable and pay for the damages caused to everyone including Indians whom they misled and as a result perished in their thousands.
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SinhalaPropaganda / September 11, 2016
“When just 300 years ago the entire NE was predominantly Sinhala,”
Another lying or misinformed Sinhala propagandist. There were no population census taken by the Europeans until the British came. Your entire basis for your claim is based on the supposition the places mentioned in the Dutch map are Sinhala sounding therefore must have been inhabited by mostly Sinhala people, without providing any context or credible secondary sources.
From British census:
Census information from 1881-2012 has consistently shown that every division in the Northern Province bar one has had an overwhelming Tamil speaking majority. The one exception is the small Vavuniya south division which borders Anuradhapura district and has a long standing Sinhala majority. It is this division that accounts for the majority of Sinhala people in the province, which prior to independence did not exceed 2% of the total population.
http://www.sinhalisation.com/census-1911-2012/
From another British census taken in 1831 describes Tamil (Malabar) districts as including: Jaffna, Trincomalee, Batticalo, Manaar and Delft (Neduntheevu).(p.48)
According to the source: “The MALABARS (or Tamuls) occupy the northern and north eastern parts of Ceylon, and their districts extend from the Kumukan aar, bounding the Mahagampattoo, to the southern limit of Putlam, round by Jaffna.” (p.53)
https://books.google.com/books?id=-G8BAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA48&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
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Native Vedda / September 12, 2016
SinhalaPropaganda
Watch this video and tell me if you agree with Udhaya Ganapathipillai:
Aluth Parlimenthuwa | 07th September 2016
Nirmal Ranjith Dewasiri, Sumanthiran, Udhaya Ganapathipillai, another two people are in discussion
https://www.youtube.com/embed/HfqYhEHI-Hg
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Dr.Rajasingham Narendran / September 12, 2016
NV.
Thanks for the YouTube link.
It is this type of debate that is required, to understand the underbelly of the ethnic conflict in Sri Lnka. Prof. Devasiri’ s presentation was ojective , profound and impressive.
His assertion that Sri Lanka though an island was never was never one in reality was a hard truth that is never acknowledged. The sea between Sri Lanks was a much travelled highway until the arrival of Portuguese , underlies the ethic composition , culture and genetics of this island.
He explains convincingly that Sri Lsnka in ancient times was never a nation in the modern sense. The north and South developed largely in isolation and owed allegiance to various rulers than to well defined land masses.
What I liked most and found wise, was his advice to live with some current realities, until such time, we are ready to move forward. He likened it to choosing to live with embedded bullets or shrapnel , rather than risking life endangering surgery to remove them.
The interpretation American history relating racial differences over 200 + years by Mr.Sabri, was a lesson for us. Mr.Sumanthiran’s performance was lackluster. Mr. Udayarkattu Gamanpilla, displayed his ignorance of history , human dynamics and human aspirations. He fails to understand that all humans have common aspirations.
The other speaker ( I can not recall his name) was quite emphatic on the need to foster a Sri Lankan identity from the early years of mixed schooling. He having grown up in the east, was able to portray the plight and insecurity of the Sinhala minority in the east .
What everyone failed to recognize as the elephant in the room, was not the citizenship act, Sinhala only act, the 1972 and 1977 constitutions or the standardization schemes, which were shortsighted and vicious attempts to,empower the Sinhala-Buddhist majority, but the failure to take measures to provide better schools, better Engllsh and science education to the disadvantaged. Our stupid politicians and politically ambitious leaders chose to throw the baby with the bath water instead.
We are caught in a trap as a result of this idiocy. We also distorted and cooked history to support a pernicious political agenda. We have become a people, who are fast forgetting what we really were because of this. The Americans without the albatross of history hanging around their necks, progressed and are progressing. We, with this albatross hoisted around our necks, are drowning.
Dr.Rajasingham Narendran
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Native Vedda / September 12, 2016
Dr.Rajasingham Narendran
I do agree with your analysis/summary of the discussion.
I always said this island never been united as in modern sense of a state.
There aren’t many historians who would put their neck out and tell the truth, however Nirmal Ranjith Dewasiri is an exception.
Recently I learnt that historians and archaeologists are under subtle pressure to write papers that please their boss’s wishes. Now they look for evidence to support predetermined outcome. Both disciplines have lost their purpose and no longer seek truth as should be.
The chair and the channel which hosted this debate must have realised they needed some comic relief, hence the presence of Uthaya Ganapathipillai.
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Dr.Rajasingham Narendran / September 12, 2016
Corrections to my comment immediately above:
1. — though an island, was never one in reality—
2. Udhaya
3. —American history relating to racial differences over 200+ years–
Dr.RN
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De Silva / September 12, 2016
Hello there Dr. R.
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He explains convincingly that Sri Lsnka in ancient times was never a nation in the modern sense. The north and South developed largely in isolation and owed allegiance to various rulers than to well defined land masses.
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Well, the era he possibly refer to is known as “feudal” era. For example Tamil Nadu did not exist. Although a nation of people existed within certain confines that had the beginnings of the modern nation state.
The criteria that fit nation is already defined by the UN. That include for example single language and continuous occupation of territory.
The island and people of Sinhala fit the modern definition of the nation. The Veddha also does.
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Dr.Rajasingham Narendran / September 12, 2016
De Silva,
India was never a single nation state until it was treated as one by the British. After the traumatic partition after independence and post-Independece absorbtion of pocket colonies and indegenous Kingdoms, it became the nation-state it is today. India/ Bharath , was only a cultural construct in history. It was a collection of kingdoms with porous, undefined, shifting and disputed borders. This was true of Sri Lanka too. The Jaffna Kindom had control over the other Kingdoms in the island and the possession of the Tooth a Relic for a brief period in history. I am sure you will not acknowledge this part of our history!
As to ethnic identities, the existence of Tamil-speaking Saivaite coastal Veddhas of the eastern coast, also point to the diversity of the Veddah community in Sri Lanka. The distinct religious traditions Tamil-speaking Veddhas yet prevail among the Tamils of the east. The people around Senkaladi recently told me of dwarfs from the dense forests in the area emerging and coming near villages and towns during periods of extreme droughts.
http://vedda.org/keerthisinghe.htm
The Vaddhas of Sri Lanka are similar to the Verdhars of South India, the aboriginals of Australa and the aboriginals of Andamanese and Nicobar islands. They were the original immigrants who strode across a contiguous landmass or crossed shallow seas.
There are many gaping holes in the stories many like you are concocting- a lethal decoction for this country.
Dr. RN
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De Silva / September 12, 2016
Dr. RajaS,
India is a collection of modern nation states. That is quite true. Ceylon is one of those nation states as per the legal UN definition.
The Jaffna Kingdom of Sankilli was circa 1600. The picture above from the Dutch archives is from 1700. A hundred years later and predominantly Sinhala.
That actually tallies with the rest too. Although Sankili was a Pandayan, his entourage, his wife and his subjects were predominantly Sinhala. He even signs the treaty with the Portugese in Sinhala too. More here.
http://www.jaffnahistory.com/Sankili/Sankili.html
So Jaffna kingdom is similar to Kandy Kingdom. It was a Sinhala kingdom with an Indian sitting on the Sinhala throne.
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timbuttu / September 13, 2016
“”So Jaffna kingdom is similar to Kandy Kingdom. It was a Sinhala kingdom with an Indian sitting on the Sinhala throne. “”
Your throne in the south is still a pig under the loo
Isn’t it cultured poop??
Why have you not done the skin graft to fit the piece vendy shooey?
shameless vibhushana still looking for his abode in the maze.
pol kuddu try some maize.
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Native Vedda / September 12, 2016
Dr.Rajasingham Narendran
Please note according to Prof Champakalaksmi there was a Simhala settlement in Thirunageshwaram mandalam.
Trade, Ideology and Urbanization: South India, 300 BC to AD 1300 (Oxford India Paperbacks)Aug 1999
by R. Champakalakshmi
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Dr.Rajasingham Narendran / September 13, 2016
NV,
Thanks for the valuable information.
Sinhala soldiers also crossed over to SouthIndia in support of Kings there. Many may fave chosen to live there or evolution of the Sinhala language may have begun there.
Dr.RN
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Native Vedda / September 13, 2016
Dr.Rajasingham Narendran
There had been a large volume of trade between Tamilakam and this island. Trade was one key driver in the process of cultural intrusion, which is overlooked by our historians.
Please refer to Prof Osmund Bopearachchi’s papers, available on internet.
Please also refer to Professor Merlin Peris’s “Mahavamsa Studies 3, Of Silk Routes, Tsunamis and Royal Suicides” on Yonas (Greek) presence at Anuradhapura.
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Dr.Rajasingham Narendran / September 13, 2016
NV,
While doing a Google search today, I came across very interesting blog, referring to Tamil and Mayan connection. Why Lanka was called ‘Siva Bhumi is also discussed.
http://frontiers-of-anthropology.blogspot.com/2011/05/more-connections-between-ancient-india.html
Dr.RN
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Native Vedda / September 14, 2016
Dr.Rajasingham Narendran
Thanks for the link.
This story was floating around a few months ago. I dismissed it as Tamil’s creative writing.
I will read the article this weekend.
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Dr.Rajasingham Narendran / September 14, 2016
NV,
The following report on the origins of the Sinhalese appeared in the Indian a Express.
http://indianexpress.com/article/research/yes-the-sinhalese-have-their-origins-in-bengal-odisha/
Kshatriya’s genetic studies quoted have been superseded by those of Ranawana et. al , which point to a more South Indan origin
Your comments and those of Ken Roberts will be welcome.
Dr.RN
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Sinhala_Man / September 16, 2016
I heard that live on Television:
Yes, I thought that Ali Sabry was wonderful. I took pains to identify him immediately, and wrote to him that very night. Before doing so, I had put a comment on here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUABMJxurcE
This is most of it:
“I’ve just had the refreshing experience of listening to Dr Nirmal Ranjith Devasiri, and Messers Sumanthiram, Ali Sabry, Udaya Gamampila, and two others in TV Derana in their programme Aluth Parlimenthuwa (New Parliament) discussing possible solutions to the “Ethnic Problem” in Sri Lanka. It was a pretty long programme, but I hope it finds its way to YouTube.
There was no solution that came up at the end, but the programme was a tremendous success because even Mr Gamampila made a point of being rational, and being nice – especially to the minority guys. Sumanthiram made good points, but it was in rather clumsy Sinhala. Mind, Sumanthiran is one of the Tamil politicians who speaks Sinhala best, but he just can’t compete with a “native speaker”. On the other hand Ali Sabry’s Sinhala was wonderful, and he made a wonderful case for a “non-racist” future for Sri Lanka. Like Sumanthiran, he forecast that tomorrow he will be beset by criticism from harliners of his own community. I was particularly struck by his call for the ending of segregation among school children according to religion (and language, of course – but that is necessary in practical terms).
I hope that if I dismiss the “International Schools” as not worth talking about in this context, you will understand why, without my having to write reams on the subject.
It is only in a handful of the schools recognised by the Department of Education that Sinhalese and Tamil medium students study under on administrative umbrella. Even in those schools it is rarely that curricular work is undertaken across language media. A few of these schools are run directly by the State: e.g. Royal College. There are less well-known, less “snob places”, like the Hali-Ela Science College. And then there are the “Christian Schools”. The Catholics have the numbers to fill their schools, but that is not the case with the even more “prestigious” Protestant Schools.”
The contact details of ALL lawyers can be located on the Internet. Mr Sabry replied my e-mail quite early the following morning:
“Dear Mr.Edirisinhe
Thank you for watching the Programme and for your critical analysis. I just went through your comments which makes some very valid points to ponder. Etc.”
I haven’t followed up yet with a phone call: they can be a nuisance to a youngish working man! But we’ve now got a rash of holidays . . .
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De Silva / September 12, 2016
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Your entire basis for your claim is based on the supposition the places mentioned in the Dutch map are Sinhala sounding therefore must have been inhabited by mostly Sinhala people,
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Well, can you name a country where the village names are in a different language to those who dwell there?
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timbuttu / September 12, 2016
Pol kuddu malli taken off his sanskrit mask that did not quite fit.
2″ mentioned in the Dutch map “”
It’s a multinational company called VOC of protestants map and a copy of portuguese Goa trade routes. Portuguese Goa in turn made a copy of Arab trader travels.
The VOC multinational never bothered if the brown skin was singhalam or tamil as long as the trade was brisk- they killed many in the golden balls wars and especially the catholic portuguese.
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De Silva / September 12, 2016
Well look,
You can say dumb things like that all your life.
But your children, if they have just an ounce more brain than you, will know it was a con.
Then they are going to see how your people killed innocents by the busload over this.
So you are really facing the moment of truth when it comes to your culture.
If you are honest, beg forgiveness from the Sinhala people you may perhaps survive because your children will want to continue calling themselves “Tamil” without any humiliation.
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Native Vedda / September 12, 2016
De Silva
“But your children, if they have just an ounce more brain than you, will know it was a con.
Then they are going to see how your people killed innocents by the busload over this.
So you are really facing the moment of truth when it comes to your culture.”
By now your grandchildren too would have given up on you I suppose.
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timbuttu / September 13, 2016
The 1970’s borrowed feathers of the crow- `De`
“Well look, You can say dumb things like that all your life. But your children, if they have just an ounce more brain than you, will know it was a con. “”
ado sil argene de to kill?
well go get booked or slapped with a ticket. Con is for congress,and those who dare not reason, are slaves.
There was no Dutch Republic till the catholic-christian wars ended- it ended with the negotiation/surrender to the Brits.
The United Provinces (roughly today’s Netherlands) fought on until the Twelve Years’ Truce, which did not end the hostilities. The Peace of Westphalia in 1648, which ended the Eighty Years’ War between the Dutch Republic and Spain and the Thirty Years’ War between other European superpowers, brought the Dutch Republic formal recognition and independence from the Spanish crown.
Birth and wealth of corporate finance::
Syndics of the Drapers’ Guild by Rembrandt depicting wealthy Amsterdam burghers.
In the 17th century the Dutch — traditionally able seafarers and keen mapmakers — began to trade with the Far East and as the century wore on, they gained an increasingly dominant position in world trade, a position previously occupied by the Portuguese and Spanish.
In 1602 the Dutch East India Company (Dutch: Verenigde Oostindische Compagnie or VOC) was founded. It was the first-ever multinational corporation, financed by shares that established the first modern stock exchange. This company received a Dutch monopoly on Asian trade and would keep this for two centuries. It became the world’s largest commercial enterprise of the 17th century. Spices were imported in bulk and brought huge profits, due to the efforts and risks involved and seemingly insatiable demand. This is remembered to this day in the Dutch word peperduur (as expensive as pepper), meaning something is very expensive, reflecting the prices of spices at the time. To finance the growing trade within the region, the Bank of Amsterdam was established in 1609, the precursor to, if not the first true central bank.
Only the Brits carry the `authority` of seal and signed by the british raj during the time of dutch multinational as both came to Surat Gujarat with letters from royalty to royalty 1600 all on the trade route map of businessman dutchman who was posted from spain to portuguese goa under the bishop as secretary.. They are known as London Treaties and archived in different places like the english constitution. you need qualifications to view them.
“”Then they are going to see how your people killed innocents by the busload over this. So you are really facing the moment of truth when it comes to your culture. “”
Who killed whom? IPKF?? Premadasa and the sinhalese organised the assassination of dear Rajiv, while the IPKF was a one hand tied behind back army maintaining peace unlike the 507 sinhala buddhist pedophile peacekeepers to UN.
“”If you are honest, beg forgiveness from the Sinhala people you may perhaps survive because your children will want to continue calling themselves “Tamil” without any humiliation. “”
Isn’t your way of life begging, concealing the truth,fame, wealth, power
Do not worry about other children’s bums their parents are capable of caring for them.
Churchill made the mistaken belief that sarong men were human and had dignity.He could have kept it (but the Wright Brothers) and air supremacy was the future.- Drones brother drones that go anywhere from anywhere hours not days of Apache logistics – devastating the treacherous brutes of totalitarianism, communism.
Hope Bombastic Boris puts the slugs in their place.
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De Silva / September 12, 2016
So the above picture is the year 1700 (no Tamils).
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From British census: Census information from 1881-2012 has consistently shown that every division in the Northern Province bar one has had an overwhelming Tamil speaking majority.
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After 180 years the entire NE has been flooded by Tamils. What happened between 1700 and 1880 is the British arrival. It seems your people arrived alongside the British.
I think it was called the “Madras Principality” which controlled the colony.
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jim softy / September 12, 2016
Census information from 1881-2012 has consistently shown that every division in the Northern Province bar one has had an overwhelming Tamil speaking majority.
What is the figure in 1881 census ?
what is the figure in 2012 cnsus ?
what happened in between ?
This is how everything Tamil says. All eternal truth. Look like came from bible.
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Shiva / September 11, 2016
Do Sinhalese have thousands of years history like Tamils in many nations? Tamil Kings built Angor Wat, ruled Indonesia morally, ethically and peacefully and thus Hinduism is well respected and Tamils glory is exposed in Singapore but successive Sinhala leaders have been failing for decades as they are only good in instigating violence, hate crimes, racism and finally committed genocide.
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Taraki / September 12, 2016
‘Tamil Kings built Angor Wat, ruled Indonesia morally, ethically and peacefully and thus Hinduism is well respected and Tamils glory is exposed in Singapore’
What a load of lying crap from Goebells. That is all they are good at.
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Native Vedda / September 12, 2016
Taraki
“What a load of lying crap from Goebells. That is all they are good at.”
Maybe Shiva is trying to emulate you.
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cholan / September 12, 2016
@ Taraki
Yes Angor Wat a Saiva temple was built by Saiva King Suriya Warman this is history ..probably he world have got assistance of Chola kings ..pity morays don’t know this simple truth
Still there are many evidences about the mighty rule of Tamil Chola empire in S.E.Asia and South Asia
He He HE even to build Kotmale and Mahawali dams in 20th century Sinhala government invited European companies but after 500 years comic book Mahavamsa will say these dams were built my big nose J R J ayawardana and all Modayas will believe …
There should be a vertical archeological excavation by an international experts around all Buddhist temples and monuments in this country to unearth the truth about the real history of this country then will can burn all Mahavamsa etc.., comic books. There were Tamil buddhists in this country between 2nd -11th century .
Who else built all the grand Buddha statues ..dams ..here …?
All by Greek engineers of that time ..this is why nose of old Buddha statues resemble Greek ..got it? stop vomiting crap.
For 30 years your card board Sinhala army couldn’t control Tigers shame …this is your glory and you was hiding under bed hugging your wife ..coward
Cheers
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t / September 12, 2016
Your poor knowledge is only surpassed by your foolish claims and bad manners. Pathetic.
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Native Vedda / September 12, 2016
t
Were you in a hurry to trash cholan you forgot to type the rest araki – (demon-yakka)?
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Taraki / September 13, 2016
Colon, the world knows that it was your Great Leader who was hiding behind the skirts of women and children to save his precious cadres. You must be pleased that you funded their suffering and death.
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Ravi-Telugu / September 14, 2016
[What a load of lying crap from Goebells. That is all they are good at. ]
it is better than mahavamsa (modavasmsa) sitloads.
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Native Vedda / September 12, 2016
Shiva
“Tamil Kings built Angor Wat, ruled Indonesia morally, ethically and peacefully and thus Hinduism is well respected”
What a load of bull.
The Angor Wat was built on Pallava style, not by Tamils. There is no evidence to suggest such glorified story was true. Those who visited this complex told me the sculptures resembles east Asian facial features.
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Anpu / September 12, 2016
NV,
“Those who visited this complex told me the sculptures resembles east Asian facial features. “
Above is true
Also I saw statue of Ganesh in front of most buildings (govt, hotels,,) in that region.
One hotel staff even had my name. I asked him the meaning of that name. He gave me a correct explanation.
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Anpu / September 13, 2016
Ganesh in front of a building
http://www.ewh.org/news/blog/570-snapshots-from-cambodia-ganesha
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Native Vedda / September 13, 2016
Anpu
Thanks
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Real Siva Sankaran sarma / September 13, 2016
They were built by native Cambodians but very highly influenced by the South Indian Dravidian Tamil style. Pallavas were also Tamils. They were of Iranian origin with typical Iranian looks and features but got assimilated into the Tamil language and culture and were very protective towards it. Many of the Vellalar from Northern Tamil Nadu and the Reddi of southern Andhra are descended from these Pallava and most of them have an Iranian fort of look with light eyes. Bodhi Dharman the Tamil Buddhist monk who introduced Shao Lin to China and Japan was a Pallava prince. This is why he was described as having light eyes and hair. The names ending with Varman or Varma show an Chola origin and ancestry of these ancient Kampuchean kings
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Dankottuwa Manike / September 11, 2016
My request to Cheap Wigneswaran
Why didn’t you pass the 102 statues required to govern the Northern Provincial Council?
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chico chicki / September 12, 2016
what a sloth, still outside the well hanging on the tree and dictating market economies. Stay on the tree goo bayeee.
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Native Vedda / September 11, 2016
De Silva
“So what does this mean?”
It means you are hearing voices in your head.
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burning Issue / September 13, 2016
NV,
It looks like De Silva is a reincarnation of Vibhushana!
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cholan / September 11, 2016
He He He
300 years ago North-East was predominately Sinhala areas …good joke
Have you been on coma at any hospital ?
You all Sinhalese were from to days Kerala then Tamil sera nadu…even mental retarded person won’t believe this comic book Mahavamsa today.
Dont parade your ignorance here.
Cheers
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Rohan / September 12, 2016
Three hundred years ago your Salagamma ancestors and the ancestors of around 50% of the so called Sinhalese were still residing in some dirt poor village in Tamil Nadu or then Tamil Kerala. Your so called Sinhalese Kandyan and Kotte kingdom were ruled by Tamil dynasties and aristocrats from South India. Population statistics show there were hardly any Sinhalese in he north or east until large scale state aided colonisation and settlement of Sinhalese from south stated to take place from the 195s onwards.
Do not try to rewrite history. Especially coming from you. A descendant of recently Sinhalised Indian Tamil slave immigrants.
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Taraki / September 12, 2016
Rohan, if the Sinhalese are descendents of Tamils, then Tamils are already a majority and are ruling the country. They just want to incorporate their other traditional homelands in the N and E, hence all the Buddha statues. Good luck to the Stamils.
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Native Vedda / September 12, 2016
Taraki
“Rohan, if the Sinhalese are descendents of Tamils, then Tamils are already a majority and are ruling the country.”
You agreed you are racist however its high time you realized you are an ignorant too.
Have you ever heard of the process “language replacement”?
If you remove, English, Tamil, Sanskrit, Pali, (to certain extent Prakrit), Portuguese, Dutch, … from Sinhala, it won’t have two legs to stand. It does not mean we cannot accept it as a language. Language development and replacement has its own dynamics which I think is too much for you to grasp.
In hundred of years time Hindi has a good chance of replacing Sinhala/Tamil languages. If you are alive then, I am confident that you would still ask the silly question how did this island become Hindi/Buddhist country.
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Taraki / September 12, 2016
Native, have you never heard of a facetious remark?
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Native Vedda / September 13, 2016
Taraki
“Native, have you never heard of a facetious remark?”
Silly of me, sorry I didn’t know you had a perverse sense of humour.
My apologies.
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Rohan / September 13, 2016
Difference. Tamils are not, but Tamils who have migrated from India over the centuries and assimilated as Sinhalese are in a majority and in the name of their newly found Sinhalese Buddhist or Catholic identity want to destroy the language culture and religion of the ancient indigenous Tamil population in the north and east who want to remain and maintain their Tamil identity. Get that into your thick head, may be you are one of the, that is why you are called Taraki.
The vast majority of the present day Malayali, Kannada and Telugu population were also Tamil at one time, until they corrupted their Tamil, just like the Tamils down the south of the island to form new languages and a different identity, just like the Sinhalese did. In the case of Malayalam and Kerala this only happened a few centuries ago. This is the reason Malayalam is so similar to its Tamil mother compared to Telugu or Kannada that broke off from Tamil thousands of years ago. Many of them now like the Sinhalese do not identify with the Tamils and in many instances work against them, as they have a chip on their shoulder.
Most of the present day English are descended from ancient Germanic and Viking tribes like the Angels and Saxons. This is why they are called Anglo Saxon. Does this mean modern day English closely identify with the Germans or Danes? No they don’t and in fact fought two wars with the Germans.
The difference is the English are gracious and mature enough to acknowledge and recognise their Germanic and other origins and does not let this bother them. Whereas the Sinhalese, Telugu Kannada and Malayalee are not and want to create myths about their origins language and culture. The only difference is due to the federal setup in India the Telugu Kannada and Malayali do not have the power to destroy the Tamils of India, and also unlike that Sinhalese they are not that vindictive or blood thirsty. In Sri Lanka thanks to the British the Sinhalese have been given this power over the island’s Tamils since 1948 and are doing everything in their power including using the might of the Sinhalese dominated government armed forces police and establishment to destroy the island’s ancient Tamil identity. They were never able to do this and the arrival of the European colonial powers was a god send to them 1) They imported lots of Tamil low castes from South India and settled them in the south of the island. These people gradually became Sinhalese and in most instances the most virulent and racist Sinhalese. This doubled the Sinhalese population in the island and made them a 70% majority. 2) British uniting the ones separate and independent Eelam Tamil lands with the Sinhalese lands down south in 1833 , thereby making the Eelam Tamil nation who were a 100% majority in their own land a minority in the island at the mercy of a ruthless nasty racist Sinhalese majority, that was largely made up of low caste Indian Tamil immigrants who had now assimilated as Sinhalese
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Punitham / September 12, 2016
”They are responsible for all the violence and mayhem they caused”???
Pl note what retired Sinhalese civil servants, professors, lawyers told LLRC:
https://www.scribd.com/doc/104705097/Conscientious-Sinhalese-Tell-LLRC
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jim softy / September 12, 2016
We also have no doubt in our minds that it is only after the promulgation of such a constitution that it would be possible to engender reconciliation and goodwill.
wigneswaran is asking constitutional rigths of daughter -in-laws to curtailed and give those to his sons.
So, is it fair or just greed ?
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Siva Sankaran Sarma / September 13, 2016
Didn’t you know? Those bogus maps were placed in the Dutch National Archive by crafty Sinhalam – to con We Thamizh out of the 100% Traditional Native We Thamizh Homeland (TM) a few centuries later :D
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Stungun / September 13, 2016
Blacker the war criminal going buccaneering for cheese.
“” Those bogus maps were placed in the Dutch National Archive by crafty Sinhalam “
The private entity of dutch pirates called VOC?
o yes they were great at map making and refining the the portuguese- arab routes of trade with the east.
Heard of Banda Island (nutmeg islands) and Archipelago they did wonders there bringing in slaves to the islands of india bombay, ceylon.
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Siva Sankaran Sarma / September 14, 2016
Cool story, bro :D
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Sam Fernando / September 14, 2016
SSS = SOS
why not your take off your mask let alone today ?
David Blacker shameon you.
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Stungun / September 15, 2016
he plans to have a white Radala baby so he married a muslim. but now he is copying the name of a Brahman.
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MelaniaModel / September 11, 2016
Interesting and a very poignant speech. One problem, yes N and E have been where Tamils were located but it is also a fact that 55% of Tamils live in Traditional Sinhala homelands. It is also a cold hard fact, that the British displaced and disenfranchised the Sinhala Kandyan peasantry by importing non native Indian low caste Tamil serfs or indentured labor to Sri Lanka and put then in our native homelands. So where do we go from here? Just keep segregating ourselves? or do we accept the PRESENT reality of how diverse the Sinhala homeland is with Moors, Malays, and Tamils living in the Sinhala Homeland for over a century as reality and also the fact that Sinhala and Moor Tamil speaking Muslims have a god given right to live in the N and E equally too?
You have also made a good point about wasted Tamil youth living on handouts from their relatives in the west. This is a symptom seen in the south with kids of rich and corrupt Sinhala and Muslim parents wasting their lives away in clubs with drugs too. So you have rung the alarm bell on that.
And do not forget the disenfranchised Sinhala youth rebelled twice with very much the same consequences. A lot of the lesser privileged Non Govigama caste youth who rebelled in 1971 came from the Central Sinhala Highlands because they were deprived of economic opportunity by the fact that Indian Tamils took over their lands to serve the British Masters without their consent.
This is something the closet racists like Paikyasoththi will never speak of and nor will catholic Norwegian funded Jehan Perera speak of. WHY?
So here is how it works. There are military bases across the land. More Tamils and a perhaps Tamil military units akin to how India has ethnic regiments be formed and perhaps they can be in the strategic locations instead of Sinhala dominant forces? Perhaps you can ask the Tamils to leave Sinhala homelands if you find the presence of Sinhalese offensive to you.
There was a war. For over a century after the American civil war ended, there was no reconciliation. There still isn’t reconciliation between black and white in culture and personal interactions. For over 40 years after the civil war ended the North ruled the South and there were military cantonments across the south of Federal troops. Southern White Christians massacred thousands of Blacks with impunity with active participation and cooperation of southern law enforcement authorities when Black people wanted to exercise their right to vote in the South after the 14th amendment was passed in 1968. The 14th Amendment to the US Constitution was ratified on July 9, 1868, and granted citizenship to “all persons born or naturalized in the United States,” which included former slaves recently freed.
Do you know ALL Democrats (Hillary’s party ) in Congress voted AGAINST IT ?
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Lone Wolf / September 11, 2016
Melania,
“And do not forget the disenfranchised Sinhala youth rebelled twice with very much the same consequences”
True
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K.Pillai / September 11, 2016
MelanieModel says ” One problem, yes N and E have been where Tamils were located but it is also a fact that 55% of Tamils live in Traditional Sinhala homelands”
The 55% is far too high but never mind. The Tamils who live in “Sinhala Traditional Homelands” bought them over several decades. Tamils are NOT averse to anybody buying lands/businesses in Traditional Tamil Homelands. In fact this will add buoyancy to the real estate. What Tamils resent is land/businesses grabbed from owners with Lankan Army and police protection and settled with hand picked thugs.Tamils are denied legal redress.
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Real Siva Sankaran Sarma / September 12, 2016
Actually 51-52% of the island’s Tamils ( this includes Indian origin) live in the north and east and most of the Tamils living down south are Indian origin. 99% of the Indian origin Tamils live down south. They have always lived there as their ancestors were imported into the island nearly 200 years ago to work in the tea rubber estates. Only 30% of the indigenous Tamils live down south and more than 90% of them in the Colombo area. They are here not by choice but due to compulsion as the north and east are not deliberately not developed by all successive Sinhalese government from independence and if any development takes place. Sinhalese from south are given the jobs Like the Prima flour factory in Trincomallee. The government wants the Tamils to rely on the Sinhalese south. Further until a century or two ago, the western littoral from Puttalam up to Colombo was also part of the Tamil homeland. This is still evidenced by many place names even in Colombo. Please do not try to rewrite history and send false propaganda to support your racist Sinhalese agenda
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MelaniaModel / September 11, 2016
African Americans originally came to America unwillingly, having been stolen and sold by Muslim slave-catchers in Africa to Dutch traders journeying to America in 1619.
The Three-Fifths Clause dealt only with representation and not the worth of any individual.
In 1857, a Democratically controlled Supreme Court delivered the Dred Scott decision, declaring that blacks were not persons or citizens but instead were property and therefore had no rights.
The 13th Amendment to abolish slavery was voted for by 100% of the Republicans in congress and by 23% of the Democrats in congress.
Not one Democrat either in the House or the Senate voted for the 14th amendment declaring that former slaves were full citizens of the state in which they lived and were therefore entitled to all the rights and privileges of any other citizen in that state.
Not a single one of the 56 Democrats in Congress voted for the 15th amendment that granted explicit voting rights to black Americans.
In 1866 Democrats formed the Ku Klux Klan to pave the way for Democrats to regain control in the elections.
George Wallace was a Democrat.
Bull Connor was a Democrat.
In the 19th century, Democrats prevented Black Americans from going to public school.
In the 20th and 21st century Democrats prevented Black Americans trapped in failing schools from choosing a better school. In fact Democrats voted against the bill by 99%.
Jim Crow laws, poll taxes, grandfather clauses, Literacy tests, white only primaries, and physical violence all came from the Democratic Party.
Between 1882 and 1964, 4,743 individuals were lynched. 3,446 blacks and 1,297 whites. Republicans often led the efforts to pass federal anti-lynching laws and Democrats successfully blocked those bills.
Though both the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 were signed into law under Democrat President, Lyndon Johnson, it was the Republicans in Congress who made it possible in both cases – not to overlook the fact that the heart of both bills came from the work of Republican President Dwight D. Eisenhower.
In the 108th Congress, when Republicans proposed a permanent extension of the 1965 Voting Rights Act, it was opposed by the Congressional Black Caucus (composed only of Democrats).
Following the Civil War, Frederick Douglass received Presidential appointments from Republican Presidents Ulysses Grant, Rutherford B. Hayes, and James A. Garfield.
Democratic President Grover Cleveland removed Frederick Douglas from office but Republican President Benjamin Harrison reappointed him.
Very few today know that in 1808 Congress abolished the slave trade. Although slavery still had not been abolished in all the states, things definitely were moving in the right direction.
By 1820, most of the Founding Fathers were dead and Thomas Jefferson’ party (the Democratic Party) had become the majority party in Congress.
In 1789, Congress passed the Northwest Ordinance that prohibited slavery in a federal territory. In 1820, the Democratic Congress passed the Missouri Compromise and reversed that earlier policy, permitting slavery in almost half of the federal territories.
In 1850, Democrats in Congress passed the “Fugitive Slave Law”. That law required Northerners to return escaped slaves back into slavery or else pay huge fines.
Because the “Fugitive Slave Law” allowed Free Blacks to be carried into slavery, this law was disastrous for blacks in the North; and as a consequence of the atrocious provisions of this Democratic law, some 20,000 blacks in the North left the United States and fled to Canada.
The “Underground Railroad” reached the height of its activity during this period, helping thousands of slaves escape from slavery in the South all the way out of the United States and into Canada – simply to escape the reach of the Democrats’ Fugitive Slave Law.
In 1854, the Democratically controlled Congress passed another law strengthening slavery: the Kansas-Nebraska Act. Even though Democrats in Congress had already expanded the federal territories in which slavery was permitted through their passage of the Missouri Compromise, they had retained
RECONCILIATION MY FOOT.
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K.Pillai / September 11, 2016
MelaniaModel “RECONCILIATION MY FOOT”
Obviously wants the infamous Lankan conflict to continue but what is the point of this wordy garbled US history? Impress who?
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Punchinilame / September 11, 2016
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Amarasiri / September 11, 2016
C.V. Wigneswaran – Northern Chief
RE: My Request To Sinhala Youth
“In recent times complicated political issues and activities made the life of the people of this area precarious. The youth here therefore revolted against the Central Government and its agents due to the repressive measures they resorted to. This in turn led to a long war which took the lives of thousands and thousands unnecessarily”
Yes. The life was more precarious for the Tamil Youth than the Sinhala Youth.
What was the cause?
The Stupidity and low intelligence of the Leaders, who wee the leaders of Para-Sinhala and Para-Tamils in the Land of Native Veddah Aethho, who were stuck in a 2,000 year history.
What do we have? An Average national IQ of 79 for Lanka, comprising Paras.
National IQ Scores – Country Rankings
http://www.photius.com/rankings/national_iq_scores_country_ranks.html
Furthermore, the youth due to lack of exercise, less critical thinking skills, eating too much sugar and processed foods, soft drinks with High Fructose Corn Syrup, eating meat and hamburgers, are obese and are suffering from diabetes, that is becoming a national epidemic.
Sugar — the elephant in the kitchen: Robert Lustig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmC4Rm5cpOI
RE: How to Reverse Type 2 Diabetes Naturally
Diabetes is a curable disease. As a dietary disease, it demands a dietary treatment. The principles are outlined here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAwgdX5VxGc
Is stupidity a curable disease?
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Proud Eelam Tamil / September 11, 2016
@ Amarasiri, you pathetic scumbug, get a life, that is better than living off welfare and jerking on the key board and defecating in this site, day in and day out. Disgusting [Edited out], respect those who deserve it, guess your mother did not teach you that. Hon Chief Minister has made a valid point, try to learn a thing . disgusting [Edited out]
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Taraki / September 12, 2016
Dear PE Tamil please don’t waste your employer’s time. There is work to be done. Those toilets won’t clean themselves.
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Native Vedda / September 12, 2016
Taraki
“Dear PE Tamil please don’t waste your employer’s time. There is work to be done. Those toilets won’t clean themselves.”
Probably Proud Eelam Tamil is awaiting for you to join him. Unless cleaned, both of you will get sacked and forced to return to Sri Lanka.
By the way is there anything special about cleaning toilets?
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Amarasiri / September 12, 2016
Proud Eelam Tamil, Dimwit
@Proud Eelam Tamil, there are two types of Tamils, with their IQ’s distributed bi-modally, and you certainly fall on the mode closer to the origin. Many, who were in that mode are gone, due to the sheer stupidity of themselves and their leaders, and everybody in the Land of Native Veddah Aethho had to pay some price.
Now getting a better understanding of the bimodal IQ distribution of the Tamils, as published in CT, and where the Dimwits fall.
The Story Of Two Graphs drawn by A Tamil Man: By Mahesan Niranjan Onion Prices and Tamil IQ Distributions
https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/the-story-of-two-graphs-drawn-by-a-tamil-man/onioniqdistributions/
https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/the-story-of-two-graphs-drawn-by-a-tamil-man/
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jim softy / September 11, 2016
Statistics show in 1505, North was only 18% Tamils and 60% was Sinhala. Tamils were Jains. Tribal Leader getting salry from the South is quoting another history book.
Only Sri lanka like countreis allow, Racists to ask for reconciliation from the sinhala victims of for 30 years.
Sinhala people are accomodating because uneducated, backbone less politicians are always catering to Racist Tamils at the expense of the majority community.
Tribal leaders of the north are manipualting the whole world, so-called leaders of the South accept that bull$hit.
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Anpu / September 11, 2016
Before 1505
Banadaranayake ancestors were tamils
JR ancestors were tamils
Years before 1505 there was no Sinhala language.
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cholan / September 11, 2016
He He He
Another crap statistics from Sinhala media educated guy …believe it..
Bulshits are growing in thousands in North -East asking where are their fathers..mothers..sisters ..brothers and what happened to them .Get ready for another Tsunami for x 30 years.
Clown do you know how many Sinhalese were there at the beginning of 20th century in Trincomale ?
Dont parade your half baked MAHAVAMSA comic book mentality here understand?
cheers
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Ajith / September 11, 2016
Excellent speech by CM. Probably it is the first time Sinhala youths are allowed to get the truth about what happened in our country.
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Eusense / September 11, 2016
There are thousands of Tamils ready to give advice to Sinhalese youth.
Where were these guys giving advice to Tamils when the LTTE was suicide mascaraing citizens of Sri Lanka????
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Shiva / September 11, 2016
LTTE was a product of Sinhala Buddhist Apartheid., racism, state terrorism and hooliganism and not a product of the Tamils.
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Eusense / September 13, 2016
shiva
I have news for you. Nothing like LTTE will be raising its ugly head again. The GOSL will take care of it. I will support any activities of gov. against any Tamil terrorism. As long as people like you threaten my country no forces will be removed from the north.
You have problems? learn to negotiate not terrorism!
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Native Vedda / September 12, 2016
Nuisance the stupid I
“There are thousands of Tamils ready to give advice to Sinhalese youth.”
They should have grabbed Rohana Wijeweera by his beard and told him not to mislead youth by his Sinha Le Marxism/Maoism/Stalinism….
He was not a good teacher.
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Eusense / September 13, 2016
stupid vedda
No end to stupid posts!
We took care of Parayabakaran the same way we took care of Wijeyweera. No terrorism will be ever allowed in my country.
Keep this in mind you terror supporting vaddi moron.
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Grease Yakka. / September 13, 2016
Grizzly Bear,
“Keep this in mind you terror supporting vaddi moron. “
Enna da turncoat, paranacoat, marapalanaya??
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Ajith / September 13, 2016
Lier. Tamils are not gving advice. Telling the truth. Truth is the greatest enemy for Buddhist Sinhala Fundamentalists. Even Lord Buddha couldn’t succeed in changing the blood thirsty attitude of those fundamentalists. I am sure most of those listened to Wigneswaran enlighted with truth and come out of darkest world of Buddhist Fundamentalism.
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eusense / September 13, 2016
Ajit
Did the tamil leaders tell the truth to the LTTE tamils when they were suicide murdering our citizens? Did they think they will get an elam? These stupid tamil leaders now have the freedom to say what is in their mind. Tamils should thank MR for that. These failed tamil leaders should apologise to the nation. Can you name a true Tamil leader you had?
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jim softy / September 11, 2016
It is because of this kind of Ralse Propaganda that schools should teach Sinhale history when children are young. Children should be taught to appriciate their own culture. Otherwise, they get caught in these crap start criticizing their own culture.
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Mano Ratwatte / September 11, 2016
A great dialogue can be started between youth of the north and south. I hope this speech was translated into Sinhalese while being delivered. There are commonalities in the conditions of economic inequities that affect youth in both parts of the country. By year 2030, 70% of the entire world will be living in Urban centres. Urbanization will by itself add to the social and economic challenges to be faced by Tamil and Sinhalese youth. To guard against upheavals from Tamil or sinhala uourh, development goals and plans must be made to account for these radical inevitable changes in demographics. Ignore then and expect more unrest.
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ikarat / September 12, 2016
time has run out ….they have to educate their senses than with ideas.
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Eusense / September 13, 2016
mr
Why do you think this wigneswaran guy did not say anything when the LTTE was in full action?
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cholan / September 11, 2016
Mr.Wigneswaran is wasting his time by writing this to Sinhala youth who still believe comic book Mahavamsa and don’t know their origin…
It is the great grand fathers..grand fathers..fathers are responsible for Tamil youths to take up arms …
Can any Sinhalese organization is ready for a debate about the real history of this island twice cursed by Buddha …with an international panel?
Now Buddhist temples are appearing everywhere in North-East soon Mahavamsa jokers say these are 2000 years old …and Asgiriya and Malwatte Ayotullahs will supported this claim.
Late racisit Archeological commissioner Paranavitharana has personally dynamited 1000 s Tamil archeological evidences to twist the history.
So when you attack..kill..rape (Sunday Sil Monday Kill Buddhist style) our Tamil brothers and sisters you expect they will shut their mouth ?
Cowards Sinhalese were hiding under bed hugging their wives till 2009 May now writing comments,
Cheers
Cheers
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cholan / September 11, 2016
Reconciliation ???? another joke
Just last week Sinhalese with Buddhist Ayotullahs staged a protest when the minister laid foundation for a Tamil school in Wattala and even attacked the Minister`s car.This incident expose the racisit mentality ..still they have not learned the lesson of 30 years hammering ..and want another
Beginng of 20th century there were over 200 Tamil schools in Puttalam..Chilaw …
End of the 18th century when British made a censor in Anuradapura area it was clearly mentioned people here speak Tamil..what happened to them …?
When a Buddhist Ayotullah entered Poloanaruwa jungle during 40s people in the area spoke Tamil….who are these people.
During 6th century when Colombo and Kandy were forests there was a regular boat service between Trincomale and Thirukovil .
Cheers
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dingiri / September 12, 2016
Cholan suffering from Mahavamsa envy?
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jim softy / September 12, 2016
Sports help to make the body active and healthy. It makes youth to perform their duties with enthusiasm and eagerness. Sports promote tolerance, a spirit of accommodation, brotherhood and other such excellent qualities. Therefore such activities as organized today would no doubt promote better understanding among the student population.
what wigneswaran is saying ?
Train both Sinhala as well as tamil youth as Suicide bombers and black tigers ?
Or even pregnent women should go through military training ?
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Richard / September 11, 2016
All major participants of forum,
Please don’t show your enmity or racial animosity in public because you are only letting the world know who you are. Speaking of leaders in Sri Lanka, unlike in other democratic Countries, all important decisions made by Sri Lankan leaders in the past became detrimental as seen by the recent history today. The TNA chief minister is making a request if you clearly understand the core summary of his talk. He is not ridiculing or showing any hatred towards the majority Sinhalese. Most of the time he is trying to show the situation in the North and is pleading the Sinhalese youth to bring their situation to the notice of their elders. He is also giving them encouragement as a senior citizen should do to the younger generation. Please learn to talk or write somewhat like him without instigating one against the other. Some of you are the majority Sinhalese, and some of you are in the minority. But please don’t let the majority superiority mindset bring a bad reputation to you because you are letting the world know who you are with what you write. Your kind of disrespect for a well known retired Supreme Court Judge of your own Country says a lot about you. It is only bad for your Country and your Leaders of today because right now your Country is under the UNHRC spotlight and is endeavoring to correct your Country’s bad history. Speaking of History, you enjoy or suffer the consequences of what was done in the past. History keeps changing as people do things differently. We all saw in the past all Countries resorted to wanton violence when there was no any controlling body. They captured land by killing the natural occupants who owned the lands for centuries. This violence has almost stopped after the second world war after the formation of controlling bodies. It is this controlling body that has restrained Sri Lanka from committing violence against the minority and helping Sri Lanka to bring back reconciliation with minorities. The people of Sri Lanka as a whole, majority and minority are now responsible to do the good and correct its course and make a good history for the Country. A good history is always enjoyable and when you learn to respect each other you will be happy and prosperous too. Whatever you write or whatever you say is not what changes history. It is only what you do for your Country that changes history.
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jim softy / September 12, 2016
It is only bad for your Country and your Leaders of today
You are talking about mythical Monoethnic – Tamil-homeland.
don’t bull shit here.
You look like a church pastor.
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Native Vedda / September 12, 2016
jim softy dimwit
“You are talking about mythical Monoethnic – Tamil-homeland.”
If its only a mythical Tamil Homeland, why should it disturb you?
“don’t bull shit here.”
I suppose it was really meant at you.
“You look like a church pastor.”
You don’t even sound like a pastor.
You must be a fresh Kallathpnie from Burma.
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jim softy / September 12, 2016
In the name of politics, Wigneswaran is giving misinformation to youth who are not educated in the Sinhale Sri lankan history. govt should prosecute him for providing misinformation toyouth and promoting violence.
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cholan / September 12, 2016
@ jIM SOFTY
it is the same Mr.Wigneswaran is now telling the history of this country should be rewritten …
Modayas still believe that their ancestor was a Lion..he he he ..
Mohavama comic book was written by a racisit Sinhaal Ayotullah what else you can expect ?t
Tamil kings ruled this country Chola Empire ruled many parts of Asia this is history.
Kuveni.. Iyarkkar..Nagas were all Tamil Hindus…Makawamsa fabricated story about a deported criminal and his 700 thugs .
Before 6th century there was no Sinhala language and Sinhal alphabet appeared only after 10th century but 20th century Kandyan Rulers Court conducted all affaires in Tamil ..even last King Sri Wickrama Rajasingam who was imported from South India by British signed in Tamil.
Cheers
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Lester / September 12, 2016
Out of the three predominant ethnic groups, the fastest growing demographic are Muslims. So even if there were no Sinhalese in the North and East, the Tamils would become a minority. According to the Island of 2014 September, “For the period 1981 to 2011, Muslim population increased from 1,046,900 (7.05%) to 1,869,820 (9.23%), an over-all increase of 822,920 (78.60%).During the same period the over-all increase of the island’s population was from 14,846,800 to 20,263,723, that is an increase by 5,416,923(36.48%). Therefore the population increase of the Muslims by 78.60% is double that of the national average increase by 36.48%.” It is simply impossible to turn the North and East into an ethnic mono-state, unless one excludes non-desirable populations altogether, such as the LTTE was attempting to do.
I understand the author’s concern with the presence of the military. However, it is important for the military to maintain some kind of presence to ensure militancy does not emerge again.
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jim softy / September 12, 2016
This is how Tamil Tribalism wants mythical eelam setup.
Uduvil Girls’ College, Jaffna over the retirement of the school Principal Mrs. Shiranee Mills and the attacks on the protesting students by the clergy of the Jaffna Diocese of the Church of South India (JDCSI)
Church of south India can set up Schools in the Sinhale North. But, Sinhale – Military cannot have camps there. Buddhist statues also cannot be there. Because that make former buddhists now turned to hindus and christians do no’t like buddha Statues ?
President is going to be busy during his entire period clearing up the internal party issues.
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Native Vedda / September 12, 2016
jim softy Dimwit
“This is how Tamil Tribalism wants mythical eelam setup.
Uduvil Girls’ College, Jaffna over the retirement of the school Principal Mrs. Shiranee Mills and the attacks on the protesting students by the clergy of the Jaffna Diocese of the Church of South India (JDCSI)”
Here is news on Sinhale South where army is not deployed:
Akila takes the cudgel to chase out corrupt super grade school principals and to clean up; Kingswood principal out !
(Lanka-e-News -12.Jan.2016, 3.30PM)
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Native Vedda / September 12, 2016
jim softy Dimwit
Watch, listen and learn:
Parents protest against transferring of school principal
http://www.lakchannel.co/
24372-parents-protest-against
-transferring-of-school
-principal.html
Is it Sinha Le tribalism or real concerns of the parents and pupil?
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KA Sumanasekera / September 12, 2016
Where was this dude when those Tamils were harassed, discriminated, tortured and killed from 1956 to 1983 and beyond?..
Give him his Eelaam please.
Our Southern youth are suffering enough after Batalanada Ranil and Bodhi Sira struck the deal to help Diaspora and the UN and please the West.
Hindian Army killed 4 Militants yesterday in Kashmir, which is under India.
If Wiggy starts something, our Youth from the South are the ones Bodhi Sira will have to send up North.
We don’t need that.
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Native Vedda / September 12, 2016
KASmaalam KA Sumanasekera
“Our Southern youth are suffering enough after Batalanada Ranil and Bodhi Sira struck the deal to help Diaspora and the UN and please the West.”
Not since 2015, but from 1956 and they did fight for their communist Eelam in 1971 and between 1987 and 1990.
“If Wiggy starts something, our Youth from the South are the ones Bodhi Sira will have to send up North.”
You mean Wiggy would wave his hands and make occupying 150,000 members of armed forces disappear into thin air.
“Hindian Army killed 4 Militants yesterday in Kashmir, which is under India.”
Or you mean the 4 Pakistani terrorists who were sent to fight the Indians. Please arrange Gota to provide Hindian army with sound advice on counter terrorism.
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KA Sumanasekera / September 12, 2016
Dear Native.
Didn’t you read Vellala Wiggs statement to the Hindian Media that he will accommodate the whole Batalanada’s Police Force if asked.
But the Vellala wants all the Army out ..
Batalanda and Bodhi Sira have already sent all good Soldiers Home.
In preparation for Bedouin’s War Crime Trials.
After the Trials, no high ranking Sinhala Buddhist officers will be left in any of the Forces.
Sinhala Buddhists from the South will be only foot soldiers.
After Batalanda’s Federal Thing kicks in, Youth in the North will be more assertive than even when they were under Pirhaparan.
Now you know why Bodhi Sira will need the Youth from the South..
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Native Vedda / September 12, 2016
KASmaalam KA Sumanasekera
“After Batalanda’s Federal Thing kicks in, Youth in the North will be more assertive than even when they were under Pirhaparan.”
Not just the Youth of North but the south and rest of the world should be assertive and active. Its a good thing.
It looks like you want to keep youth down so that you (old racists, grumpy old men) could permanently sit and ride on their back.
This alone show the depth and stupidity of your racism.
Unleash the potential of all youth if the state wants to prevent 1971, 1989-90 and 1983 – 2009.
I suggest you spend rest of your life in forest monastery away from young people if you really want to see a vibrant country is being built.
Go away.
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Seelawathie Jayasinghe / September 12, 2016
Sumanaya,
Dont be a rabble rouser man, you are betraying us sinhalese.
We the sihalayas having fought the war are now on a process to get if peace to be sustainable – our wording too should take the side of peaceful manner.
Ballige puthas of your kind to go with attacking and provocating rhetorics cant bring us further. It is like seeking care of the prevailing cancer, but not even doing the least to heal it.
May all the invisible forces be poweful in making yours the kind of abusive mind sets to turn unbiased. More of you guys even today stand by as the most abusive fraction of the society led by former president and allies- by betraying lankens further.
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KA Sumanasekera / September 12, 2016
Are you ….. What a shame..What a waste…
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Peter Pan / September 12, 2016
Hey CM Simpleton; you have stated
‘..”The teenage period must therefore be channeled properly teaching them during that period their school curriculum as well as extra-curricular matters such as arts, fine arts, sports, scouting and other useful activities. If our children are bound to these activities they will have little time to consider negative ways of behaviour.” ..
What an oxymoron; This dubious politician dwell in bigotry didn’t think any thing about UGC girls and their protest about the situation in their school. Aren’t they matter to you as youth.
My advice to this Simpleton is to look at his own backyard before giving any advice to others live in peace and harmony miles away. Nice try fellow you are one of the most disingenuous Tamil focus on scuttling troubles in our motherland.
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Native Vedda / September 12, 2016
Peter Pan with ugly stupid mind
What are you blabbering?
What is your point if there is one?
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Peter Pan / September 12, 2016
You nitwit;
You don’t get it because you don’t have necessary capacity to understand it. Anti-Sinhala insignificant pompous guys like you always like to mollycoddle Wiggy and others like him.
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Rajash / September 12, 2016
CM Wiggy “Let me conclude requesting our youth present here to share our views on political aspirations with their dear ones back home.”
Poor guys came to take part in a sports festival.
is this some sort of sledging(like that happens in Cricket) at a high level to mentally disorient the Sinhala students so the Tamil Schools win?
Sorry Wiggy a light hearted political message of reconciliation and integration is acceptable at such events. But this is going too far
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Rajash / September 12, 2016
CM Wiggy
have you met and addressed the students of the Uduvil Girls Schools yet?
The rumour is that the Girl’s hostel has become a torture chamber to punish the students who took part in protests in support of the sacked Principal.
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Bodin / September 12, 2016
It is a cardinal principle of good breeding and civilized thinking to not to
categorize whole peoples with a single brush. So only racist will say “all niggers are stupid”, or “all Jews are slimy”, or that “all Muslims are jihadists”. I and most Muslims are vehemently not so.
But here we have Wineswaran referring to “all sinhalese Youth” and telling them that
“We also have no doubt in our minds that it is only after the promulgation of sucha constitution that it would be possible to engender reconciliation and goodwill.”
So at the moment Wineswaran has no goodwill. Before there can be any
goodwill the constitution should be what he wants!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How did this geezer work in the midst of people in the south and live there
without a constitution?
How did this odious man with a prejudiced mind work as a Judge in the south
without a constitution?
He had already said that Tamils should not marry Sinhalese.
Should Tamils eat the food cooked by Sihalese?
Should tamils sit near Sinhalese and become polluted?
Should tamils breath the air in common with the Sinhalese?
Should tamils use the water coming from the central hills occupied
and besmirched by the sinhalese?
We have an out an out racists in this WINEeswaran.
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jay / September 12, 2016
All you crackpots need to get a DNA test done, to realise how mixed up we all are! Race has no meaning any longer , respect varying cultures
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punitham / September 12, 2016
Pl tell the President who told the visiting IFRC Chief on 03.03.2016:
the President told visiting head of IFRC: ”whenever the people talk of reconciliation, international agencies rush to former conflict areas in the North and East seeking reconciliation among the people. it is people in the North and East who suffered most due to the protracted conflict and reconciliation should originate from the people in the South and it should be inculcated in their mindset”.
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timbuttu / September 12, 2016
“2from the people in the South and it should be inculcated in their mindset”.
everybody want’s the money not the idea of reconciliation No?
everybody is seated on their senses and emotions and the elephant in the room is an elephant of doom Ranil did inform the world that the people are not willing to reconcile. With his muslim entourage He is your India pukka sahib,you don’t need better reconciliation?? IC goes unsaid- like uncle but more shape, shape.
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Hiran / September 12, 2016
I am of the view that Mr Wigneswaran must preach to the people of the NE what he practices with his children to inter-marry and to be a one nation. HE ALSO SPEAKS OF THE RECONCILIATION IN SOUTH AFRICA – PLEASE REMEMBER THE MINORITY OF THAT COUNTRY BELIEVED IN A ONE NATION AND THEREFORE RECONCILIATION WAS NOT AN ISSUE NOR WERE THEY INTERESTED IN OCCUPYING A DEVOLVED STATE. AS ONE NATION LET US AS A FIRST STEP BRING UP THE LIVING STANDARDS OF ALL SRI LANKANS IRRESPECTIVE OF THE AREA THEY LIVE.
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jim softy / September 12, 2016
I am of the view that Mr Wigneswaran must preach to the people of the NE what he practices with his children to inter-marry and to be a one nation.
Wigneswaran can not preach to Tamil youth because they are mostly suicide bombers and black togers, even the university studetns are violent.
As he already knows how good are sinhala youth because he has daughter – in – laws who are sinhala.
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davidson panabokke / September 12, 2016
”The youth are the back bone of our country. There are many things that youth can accomplish if they decide to do so. Therefore I make a request of all of you to understand our predicament, our needs and priorities in order to help every one of us to live with dignity and equality and as equal citizens of this country” must be minded by 22/23 million Sri Lankans.
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jim softy / September 12, 2016
where was Wigneswaranwhen PAbakaran was force recruiting child soldiers ?
Now, suddenly wigneswaran is preaching to Sinhala Students.
Why Tamil Students are black tigers and suicide bombers ?
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dingiri / September 12, 2016
“For over 2000 years Northern and Eastern Provinces in this Country have been the traditional homelands of the Tamils. No doubt for some time many Tamils were Buddhist. (Professor Dr.Sunil Ariaratne calls them “Demala Baudayo”) But thereafter they returned back to their original Hindu Religion.”
Nice try at a neat little land grab. To grab 35% of the nation’s land mass for his 12% minority. History, demography and geography will not stand in the way of the Tamil Nationalist in his infinite greed.
Wigneswaran wants all the extensive Archaelogical sites in the North and East considered as those built by Tamil Buddhists to reinforce his claim on everything that is in the British defined Northern and Eastern provinces. But one inconvenient fact stands in the way of this latest attempt at falsification of history. The hundreds of inscriptions found at the sites are all in the prakrit langueate which Sinhalese evolved from. It belongs to a totally different language family to Tamil.
Every one knows as is attested in Dutch and Portugese records that Trincomalee and Batticaloa were captured from the Kandians by the Portugese and later recaptured before finally ending up with the Dutch. Robert Knox was captured in Trincomalee by the Kandians. Admiral Van Spilbergen was taken to the King of Kandy when he landed in Batticaloa. The Mattakalapu Maniyam (Tamil oral history of Batticaloa) relates how there was a fort when they arrived in Batticaloa with the Moslems. This can only be after the Portugese first built a fort there and Islam reached South India which was certainly far less than 2000 years ago dear Justice Wigneswaran.
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punitham / September 12, 2016
”We are not aware of the extent and scope of the activities of the Council in the North. But we are aware that they are taking steps to construct a Cultural Centre in Kopay on a 5 acre block of land to develop the arts and culture of this region”??
Culture is the product of a society and evolves with the evolution of the society.
It looks as though a ”culture” is imposed on the people of the North.
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jim softy / September 12, 2016
If we ask for the right to live in dignity on our lands in the North or East
If the above statement is true, Tribal Leader’s two sons in colombo are not happy because they are not in their homeland and probably, they live like tamil dalits with no dignity.
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Vimal Carlos / September 13, 2016
I debunked the whole discussion LOL . The greeks was in Anuradaphura and the first language in anuradaphura was Greek. Its in the Mahawamsa :) (377-307BCE
That means 300 years before Jesus was born Europeans was in large number in sri lanka allready 700 years before portugese.
http://www.sundaytimes.lk/120729/plus/did-anuradhapura-greeks-come-east-with-alexander-7214.html
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timbuttu / September 13, 2016
modaya the macedonian Alexander the great could not pass the river to think of crossing the uncrossable deccan mountain range. The river is where cupid stuck Chandragupta Maurya the Hindu and low behold sanskrit, greek and sculptures came on display in hindu india.
(From the Greek side, no one but Alexander cared about conquering India. The enemy was the Persians, and they had already been defeated. The mutiny is mentioned in Greek sources, and it makes sense, at that point in time Alexander’s army had no realistic goal (reaching the end of the world isn’t particularly realistic))
that is where modi and toadies are heading not a Asoka (he was a VP) of unknown father fancied by the the anglo americans of the time and the planners of new delhi- Edwin Lutyens
Hindus of India are surviving the onslaught of buddhist+muslim of lanka and the christians conversion.
pali has been designated non classical as it is a threat to india. go fetch as india created your god and pali.
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stop20 / September 13, 2016
“”That means 300 years before Jesus was born Europeans was in large number in sri lanka allready 700 years before portugese.””
Back to school and learn arithmetic before doing the gigolo.
The Indian campaign of Alexander the Great began in 326 BC.
1505 AD the Portuguese arrived at Colombo from Cochin/Portuguese Goa..
711 AD- 1492 AD- Islamic Rule of Portugal (so the portuguese found trade route of arabs and ships unlike the dutch.)
1492–1507 – The remaining Muslims in the Crown of Castile were ordered to become Catholic. King Ferdinand ordered to convert mosques to Christian churches. The king then appeals to the reigning Pope Julius II (nephew of Sixtus IV) to grant the aspirations of these new Christians. This new Christian population, forcibly converted, will come to be known as the Moriscos. Jews who were forcefully converted are known as marranos.
1727 AD– Last mass trial of Muslim-descendants for secretly practicing Islam held by the Inquisition in Granada. Most of those convicted received light sentences, the longest of which were commuted.
Lankawe, dark skin (non white european)have the DNA of African/Arab/Portuguese older than Obama mix but not European.
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jim softy / September 13, 2016
Can you believe a Supreme Court judge can become this shamesless dirty tribalist politician without any dignity.
He is a Tribalist and promoting Tribalism.
It is interesting to investigate to see how fiar the court decisions he made.
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Taraki / September 13, 2016
My Request To Tamil Youth -forget your ‘traditional homelands’ and become Sri Lankan.
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Native Vedda / September 13, 2016
Taraki
“My Request To Tamil Youth -forget your ‘traditional homelands’ and become Sri Lankan.”
How?
Is it by wearing a Pirith Noola (pirith string) or a Hindu sacred thread (Poonool)?
Or is it a sort of Baptism, placing one’s right palm on left side of chest and reciting from Mahawamsa written in Pali?
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Native Vedda / September 13, 2016
Taraki
Could you define Sri Lankan.
Could you define Buddhist country.
Could you define Sinhala/Buddhism.
Could you define who you are.
Thank you.
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Sinhala Banda / September 13, 2016
Well said Taraki. That must be among the top priorities about reconciliation.
Yahapalakayas and others before Yamapalakayas have never had guts to say that Sri Lanka is one country established by SINHALA people and the minorities are welcome to live peacefully but not to talk about their own BANTU LANDS, BUSH LANDS, CHENA LANDS, CHICKEN LANDS, HOME LANDS,SHANTY LANDS, KALLATHONI LANDS, THAMBI LANDS etc..
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Native Vedda / September 14, 2016
Sinhala Panda
“Yahapalakayas and others before Yamapalakayas have never had guts to say that Sri Lanka is one country established by SINHALA people”
Well, could you cite evidence.
“minorities are welcome to live peacefully but not to talk about their own BANTU LANDS, BUSH LANDS, CHENA LANDS, CHICKEN LANDS, HOME LANDS,SHANTY LANDS, KALLATHONI LANDS, THAMBI LANDS etc..”
First you should convince Sinhalese and Buddhists to live in your “Sinhala/Buddhist Ghetto”. Then of course see if you can persuade the rest to live in your ghetto.
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Real Siva Sankaran Sarma / September 15, 2016
Sinhala Banda sad to say neither Sinhala nor Banda are in reality original Sinhalese words both are derived from Tamil. Sinhala from one of the ancient Tamil words for the island Chingkallam ( the land of copper or red soil) Banda from the Tamil caste name Pandarar( upper caste Hindu temple workers). Many of these Tamil Pandarar migrated to the south of the island, got assimilated as Sinhalese and Pandarar became Bandara or Banda. Pandaranayagam ( head of the Pandarar) became Bandaranaicke. Got it
http://profile.tamilmatrimony.com/pandaram-brides
Sinhala Banda/Bandara return to Tamil Nadu
The late Tamil leader Amirthalingham is supposed to have come from this community
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Ravi-Telugu / September 14, 2016
[My Request To Tamil Youth -forget your ‘traditional homelands’ and become Sri Lankan. ]
My Request To Sinhala Youth -forget your ‘blessed homeland and ownlond (sitload)’ and become human from hybrid status.
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