8 December, 2021

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Nagadeepa & Nainathivu: Upholding All Parts Of The Cultural Mosaic

By Chandre Dharmawardana

Prof. Chandre Dharmawardana

Prof. Chandre Dharmawardana

It has been reported that some Northern Provincial Council (NPC) members have initiated moves to change the name of Nagadeepa to Nainathivu, triggering polarization of opinion back to the feverish days of the TNA rallies in Vaddukkoddai (a town known even up to 1900 as Batakotte, marked as such in Dutch maps). That was a time when the gory verses of Kasi Ananthan calling for the blood of “traitors” were hailed as liberating “poetry”.

Ever since the railway connected Colombo with Jaffna in 1905, Northerners have moved into Colombo and suburbs, and then more well do to went on to even better climes abroad. Today, in Colombo we see a vibrant multi-ethnic society where Tamil culture is more alive than in Jaffna. Some businesses in Dehiwala have Tamil and English sign boards with names like “Dehiwalai”. But the Sinhalese have not protested. It is common to see buses with Tamilized destination names (in Tamil characters) where Tangalle becomes Tangallai and Halavatha becomes Chilapam, with absolutely no protest from the Sinhalese.

Unfortunately, Tamil nationalism and its cousin, Sinhala nationalism changed the open discussion of such topics. Toponymic studies have become a hot potato where a mere discussion of place names becomes like the positioning of “kajan” fences in Jaffna as they move back and forth claiming territory! The souring of the minds of even scholars of the caliber of A. J. Wilson from about 1965 onwards has been documented by Michael Roberts (Michael Roberts: Tamil nationalism: Journal of South Asian Studies, n.s., Vol.XXVII, no.1, April 2004

A vast number of place names in the North and East are most likely to be of Sinhala origin, as was pointed out even by Tamil Pandits like Rasanayagam, K. Velupillai and colonial civil servants. Velupillai, in his Yalpana Vaibhava Kaumudi devotes a whole chapter to Sinhala place names in Jaffna. These were further extended by Paul E. Peiris, Nicholas, Paranavithana and others, and in a doctoral thesis by Dr. Indrapala Karthigesu. Ven. Medhananda and others have followed suite. I have attempted to complement and compile what is known, and put them together as a website for scrutiny by interested scholars.

However, the question of etymology is not an issue to the ordinary citizen. For him, Colombo can be “Kolomba” or “Kolompu” depending on his language, just as Brussels is Bruxelles to a Francophone. They constitute the rich cultural tapestry that Sri Lanka acquired by being a nation on the silk route. Scholars like Rasanayagam and Velupillai were overjoyed to see that Iluppaikadavai identifies as the Meepaathota of the Sinhalese (Madhupatheetha of the Mahavamsa), while “Chenakaladi” near Batticaloa (Madakalapuwa) is identified as “Sinhala vaadiya“. On the other hand, place names like Chempian aru, Chempiyan pattu are most likely of Chola Origin, evoking the name of a Chola queen. I have listed some three thousand place names and their tentative toponymic details in the website that I referred to, while noting uncertainties in such research.

A good antidote to mono-ethnic nationalism (a.k.a racism) is to label the place-names with names in both languages where possible (at least in Parenthesis if the name is mainly to evoke hisotry). At least the train stations and the bus stations should have sign boards, with not only the current name, by older historical names. For example, Killinochchi, should be complemented with the name “Giranikke“, evoking the fact that even the Magha invader of the 10th century respected this bird sanctuary in a forest of “Nika trees” (Vitex Negundo). First-century CE stone pillars, and ruins of a shrine named Lumbini Vihara existed there. Today we have also the left-overs of the Eelam-IV battles. These matters are surely equally interesting to the tourist as well as to those residents who can shed their narrow communalism.

Many places in the Jaffna peninsula (Nagadeepa, or Waeligama at different times, c.f., Sigiri griffiti etc.) are well known to Buddhists as they are listed (in the “Nampotha”, and other texts) as places of pilgrimage. I have prepared an interactive internet map giving Sinhala, English and Tamil names, and more details (see Interactive English map of pre-CE Buddhist sites in Jaffna.)

Most observers in the south seem to feel that the NPC, since its inception in 2013 has shown a deep interest in pushing forward contentious issues while mouthing “reconciliation”. The NPC passed its contentious charge of “Genocide” against all governments since 1948. This is a beefed up 21st century version of G. G. Ponnambalam’s orations in front of the Soulbury commission claiming that the British Raj had grievously discriminated against the Tamils in government jobs, Anuradhapura preservation, agriculture, medicine, not developing a port in Jaffna and so on (See Dr. Jane Russell, Communal Politics under The Donoughmore Constitution, p. 312 et sec. ). The TNA leaders were LTTE spokesmen during Prabhakaran’s time, and still claim an LTTE political legacy. It has been alleged that they have prevented the resettlement of Muslims and Sinhalese who were driven away from the North by the ethnic cleansings of the LTTE. Mr. Ariyaneththiran who entered Parliament (after the LTTE paved the way for him by abducting Rasanayagam) in 2004 claims that the Muslims were not cleansed out. A hartal harking to the 1980s has been launched in this ambiance to force the courts to free LTTE prisoners. Even if the objectives were laudable, the inherent dangers in launching such hartals are mind boggling.

So let me invite the Honorable members of the Northern Provincial Council to consider place names as enriching the national cultural heritage, with valuable tourist potential. It should be a launch pad for inter-communal linkage, as in Rasanayagam, rather than a bone of contention. One may disagree with the interpretations, but so what!

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    Nainaantheevu is a name since historical period…..let the Sinhalese called this Nagdeepa if they like

    Can someone tell who has built the buddhist temples in North -East and adjoining Sinhala provinces ????

    2nd to 11th century there were Buddhiist Tamils in todays South India and probably in todays Sri Lanka ..having witnessed the blood bath of the followers of the buddhism Tamils have abandoned Buddhism it is clear.

    The Great Tamil Epic Manimekalai is a story about a Tamil Buddhist Nun and it was written by a Tamil Buddhist Monk 1000 years ago…this book clearly mention this Nainaatheevu and pilgrimage visiting this buddhist temple

    There fore Nainaatheevu Vihara as well as many Buddhist temples in Sri Lanka would have built by Tamils …but history is always being twisted by Buddhist Ayatullahs.

    Yes we have power we have a government gazette so we can change names…at our will .ancient
    Thambalakaamam ( this town was there when Polanaruwa…Kandy and Colombo were jingle .became Tambalagama..Thriyaai became Thiriyaya ..Manla Aaru became Weli Oya …Anada Kumaraswami Mawatha got Sinhala name ..Thamil Sangam Road became Sanga road ….what a joke .

    This is not an issue but purposely done to irritate Tamils ….there is no room in this cursed land never ever Tamils can’t live peacefully with Sinhalese ( ex Kerala Hindus)….

    Now it is clear in this same was many Ancinet Tamils villages got Sinhala names …

    The history of this country should be rewrite ..Mohaavamsa is a fake fabricated artificial comedy book

    Cheers

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      If I remember correctly, Nagadeepa is referred to as Nagadeepam in the epic Manimekalai. If so, Nagadeepam is the most appropriate Tamil name for Nainatiheevu.

      Dr. Rajasingham Narendran

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        Manimeckalai is a poem and not a historical document…even it is not proven that it refers to SL

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          Sach,

          Manimehalai is a follow up epic to Silapathiharam, which tells the story of Kannagi ( Pathini Deviyo) , Kovalan- her husband and Mathavi, his mistress. It is epic written by Illnago Adigal, the brother of the Chera King who became a Buddhist monk. Manimakalai was written by ( I think ) the poet Seethalai Sathanar, about Manimekalai , who was the daughter born to Kannagi and Kovalan. She became Buddhist nun.

          King Gajabahu of Kanka, visited the Chera Kingdom and on his return introduced Pathini worship to Lanka. The Chera King , his brother Illango Adigal and Seethalai Saathanar are historical figures.

          Dr.RN

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            Yes….now tell me is Manimekalai considered as historical source? Is it taken seriously as a historical source by reputed historians?

            Because that is what matters….

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          @ Sach

          Where are you living? Who are your parents?

          Manimekali is one of the old Tamil classics not a poem for your information ..Manimekalai is the name of a Tamil Buddhist nun written by a Tamil Buddhist monk Seethalai Saathanar ….

          According to the history there were 7 shiva temples in ancient Sri Lanka land mass..today only 2 left…where are the other temples?

          it was recorded by ancient sailors about the shining gold gopuram of a hindu temple in Dondara …what happened to this temple ??? vanished into the sky?

          What is happening to Kataragama hindu temples and madams all built by Tamils happened to the other 5 Shiva temples…

          Sinhala buddhist have copied the Tamil Hindu New year 110% carbon copy because there was no any new year celebration for Sinhalese 80 years ago..

          Kanday perahara was actually started as a Hindu festival ….

          I challenge anyone to deny these facts …

          An internatioanl team should do a horizontal archeological excavation around all Buddhist temples in this country to expose the truth ..certainly this will happen one day even Asgiriya Ayotullah can’t stop this .

          Cheers

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            SO is it a historical document?

            What has my parents got to do with your inability to produce proper sources and of course your lack of knowledge on SL history?

            Do a proper counter arguement for what this man says

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              @Sach

              All parents teach about their ethnic groups ..teach classics…etc., etc.,to their kids

              There is no true SL history all fabricated con..

              For example After 500 years Mahavamsa comic book will say…

              it was during the period of Big Nose King J R Jayawardena Kotamale ..Mahavaeli projects completed simply ignoring the funds and participation of western government and companies

              Same book will say it was during Murderpakse rule LTTE was defeated (My foot) simply hiding the help of 34 countries who gave military aid ,,personnel..equipments plus poverty India supplied banned chemical weapons

              modayas will believe this

              Cheers

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            Make no mistake. It is a TAMIL NADU book. Not SL.

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              There was no Tamil Nadu when Manimekalai was written understand ?

              Entire todays South Indian land mass was occupied by Tamils at that time …probably this Nainaatheevu was a part of that.

              There was no Saudi Arabia the guardian of pure Islam (???) before 1935 and gosh the noises they are making is really laughing.

              Cheers

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          sachooooooo

          “Manimeckalai is a poem and not a historical document…even it is not proven that it refers to SL”

          Brilliant. You are only second to Nuisance.

          Therefore I take it that Sitavaka Hatana, Kustantinu Hatana, Parangi Hatana, Maha Hatana, Rajasiha Hatana ….. are mere poems and do not contain any historical information.

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        why is manimeckalai the standard set of names for us to follow?
        What is manimeckalai Mr.Rajasingam? What connection does it have? Is it a historical document?

        Are you asking that we should ditch old maps, documented sinhala history and all the evidence that are ‘historical’ for so called non historical thing…No one has proven that manimekalai speaks about SL..

        It is like ditching scientific findings and believe in bible…

        The extent even educated tamils can go to steal others’ history is apalling

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          A correction: in Manimakalai, The present Nainathivu/ Nagadeepa is referred to as Manipallavam. The island was also known to Tamils as Nagateevu, because it was ruled by Naga Kings. Manimakalai was the daughter born to Kovalan and Mathavi. She became a Budhist nun and visited Nagadeepam/ nags dips/ Manipallavam accompanied by a senior Budhist nun, Kavunthi adigal. Kannagi ( Pathini Deviyo) was the wife of Kovalan and Mathavi was his mistress.

          When and why the island came to be called Nainathivu is not known.

          Dr.RN

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            Sach thinks that only Mahavamsa is a historical document, my foot!

            I just cannot stop laughing, LOL…

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              I can understand that you are indeed laughing after reading this..

              Mahavamsa is a historical document after certian time period (except the initial part)….
              It is not me who consider it as historical but historians..
              The fact that stone inscriptions and religious monuments further proves the correctness of Mahavamsa..

              What does Manimekalai has? Give me a single other source that supplement manimekalai

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                “Mahavamsa is a historical document after certian time period (except the initial part)….”

                Ha, ha, ha LOL!

                The part that is favourable to you is true history and the part that is unfavourable to you is not true history but fiction, LOL!

                I will tell you what is unfavourable to you, let me quote Professor Carlo Fonseka who said:

                “I do not find that reading the Mahavamsa enhances my self-esteem as a Sinhalese. On the contrary I feel greatly embarrassed and deeply humiliated when I learn that we the Sinhalese are the descendants of Vijaya, the banished profligate son of an incestuous marriage between (Sihabahu) and sister (Sihasivali) whose mother was so exceedingly lustful that only a real lion could satisfy her sexually. Moreover, Sihabahu killed his leonine father, the king of the brutes […] Thus, according to the Mahavamsa, brutishness, bestiality, incest, patricide and profligacy, were the stuff of our genesis […] of the 54 rulers recounted in the Mahavamsa, 22 were murdered by their successors; 11 were overthrown; 13 killed were killed in battle and 6 were assassinated” (The Island, 22 October 1995).

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                  Do you treat the Bible (with similar stories), with such derision.?

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            SO is it a historical document?

            How can one says that it talks about SL? The ones who tell that it talks about nagadeepa is you and not any historian..

            Are old Dutch maps wrong?
            What else that talk about Nagadeepa or even a tamil nation in SL?

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              Sach,

              “Are old Dutch maps wrong?”

              The old Dutch maps are not wrong except the fact that Some twisted names are due to the inability of the Portuguese/Dutch to accurately sound a local name. Thus a name may have a variety of different spellings and pronunciation.

              However, the so called foreign language maps/archives shown as Dutch (in the Dutch language) in the web site is a fake created by the Sinhalese to fool their own people. None of them are authentic.

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                “”However, the so called foreign language maps/archives shown as Dutch (in the Dutch language) in the web site is a fake””

                What the author refers to as `Dutch` is the same as saying all tablets are iPad or all vacuum cleaners are Hoover.

                VOC was the first multinational corporation formed by Protestants of northern europe during the period of Catholic/Protestant conflict in Europe. Though the trade was registered in the Low counties there was no Dutch government but Spanish Netherlands and the Spanish/Roman Emperor Charles V (nephew of Catherina spouse of Henry 8) born/ruled from there till his retirement at 42 years of age to a cloister at Madrid and his death.

                Flanders was the trading center for Europe long before the emancipation of the Portugese who were ruled by the north African based Arabs for 800 years.- mainly kaffirs who came to Ceylon as the white Portuguese main was Goa/Cochin/Bombay.
                With the trade routes provided by dutch businessman Jan Huyghen van Linschoten (he worked as secretary to archbishop of Portuguese Goa) The book is in several languages. Both the British and VOC in 1600 used these routes to trade/invade the east.

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              @Sach

              Here we are discussing about Nainaatheevu ..not a history of cursed Sri Lanka ok ?

              Manimekalai clearly mentioned about Nianaatheevu ..and the Buddhist Temple ….

              There was no cursed Sri Lanka at that time ….full stop

              Cheers

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          Sach.

          History is basically the capacity of the society in remembering the past. The mode of exerting this capacity differs from society to society. Archeology (ancient artifacts, ruins, potsherds, burials, coins, stone inscriptions, cave writings, rock edits, writings on Ola leaves, etc), ancient literature, chronicles, cultural anthropology, folk stories, historical linguists, etc are some of the tools to understand the history of a society.

          The Mahavihara monks of Anuradapura maintained Pali chronicles in Sri Lanka which were intended primarily to record the activities of the Theravada Buddhists. The Mahavamsa (Great Chronicle of historical poem) was written not as a history of Sri Lanka (or Sinhalese) but as a history of the Mahavihara (Theravada Buddhists). The Mahavamsa and Dipavamsa speaks ONLY of Theravada Buddhists and NOT Sinhala Buddhists. The original Mahavamsa (Mahawansha), is a historical poem written in Pali, which covers a period starting from the arrival of Vijaya (543 BC) to the time of Mahasena’s rule (334-361 BC) written by the Venerable Mahanama Thero, an uncle of King Dhatusena.

          The well known Tamil Buddhist epics Manimekalai, Silappadhikaram, Valaiyapathi, Kundalakesi, Jivaka Cintamani, Siddhantattokai, the panegyric Tiruppadigam, the biography Bimbisara Kada and the excavations (archeological findings) in Jaffna and Tamil Nadu proves the existence of Tamil Buddhists (Theravada and Mahayana). The ancient Buddhist remains in the North and East of Sri Lanka are the remnants left by the Tamil Buddhists and not anybody else. They are part of the heritage of Sri Lankan Tamils. Only the Buddhist temples, statues and structures build in the recent past and present in the North and East can be considered as Sinhala-Buddhist.

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            Archeology (ancient artifacts, ruins, potsherds, burials, coins, stone inscriptions, cave writings, rock edits, writings on Ola leaves, etc), ancient literature, chronicles, cultural anthropology, folk stories, historical linguists, etc are some of the tools to understand the history of a society. //////Then why does nothing exists for a tamil nation?

            The Mahavihara monks of Anuradapura maintained Pali chronicles in Sri Lanka which were intended primarily to record the activities of the Theravada Buddhists. The Mahavamsa (Great Chronicle of historical poem) was written not as a history of Sri Lanka (or Sinhalese) but as a history of the Mahavihara (Theravada Buddhists). The Mahavamsa and Dipavamsa speaks ONLY of Theravada Buddhists and NOT Sinhala Buddhists. The original Mahavamsa (Mahawansha), is a historical poem written in Pali, which covers a period starting from the arrival of Vijaya (543 BC) to the time of Mahasena’s rule (334-361 BC) written by the Venerable Mahanama Thero, an uncle of King Dhatusena////Yes Mahavamsa records history of mahavihara and theravada buddhists…that is why it is a historical document….And not a fiction….you are iterating my point here……

            Now give me a single source that talks about a tamil civilisation in SL??

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              Sach,

              “Then why does nothing exists for a tamil nation?”

              Ha, ha, ha, LOL!

              Who told you nothing exists for a tamil nation?? If you read the Mahavamsa, it talks a lot about Tamil kings. Tell me where it talks about the Sinhalese??

              If you read the Mahavamsa carefully, even Dutugemunu’s father King Kavantissa the king of Rohana (Kingdom in Southern Sri Lanka) had told Dutugemunu not to invade (Rajarata) the land of the Damilas. He had said, Rohana the region on this side of the river (Southern territory) has enough land. There is evidence in the Mahavamsa that the Northern territory (Rajarata) was occupied by the Tamils. It says, Dutugemunu had to conquer not just one Tamil king (Elara) but 32 Tamil Chieftains around the Anuradhapura principality alone. He also killed around sixty thousand Tamils in the war. How could there be 32 Tamil chieftains in the area of Anuradhapura alone and sixty thousand Tamils if there was no Tamil settlements in the North of Anuradhapura?

              The Mahavamsa or any other ancient document in Sri Lanka does not say anything what so ever about Sinhala Civilization. Now can you please give me one single source that talks about a Sinhala civilization in SL??

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            The well known Tamil Buddhist epics Manimekalai, Silappadhikaram, Valaiyapathi, Kundalakesi, Jivaka Cintamani, Siddhantattokai, the panegyric Tiruppadigam, the biography Bimbisara Kada and the excavations (archeological findings) in Jaffna and Tamil Nadu proves the existence of Tamil Buddhists (Theravada and Mahayana). The ancient Buddhist remains in the North and East of Sri Lanka are the remnants left by the Tamil Buddhists and not anybody else. They are part of the heritage of Sri Lankan Tamils. Only the Buddhist temples, statues and structures build in the recent past and present in the North and East can be considered as Sinhala-Buddhis////////////

            Buddhism was never predominant in Tamil society like Hinduism…

            1. What happened to Tamil Buddhists? They were buddhists who came to SL mainly because of persecution in TN..and absorbed to SL…

            2. And why did Tamil Buddhists used Sinhala place names as recorded in history? Because they were mainly Sinhala places…That is why..

            Tamil Buddhism did exist..but not to the extent that you want to show…rather like a small protestant group in a larger society…

            SO give me a single source that talks about tamil nation in SL?

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              Sach,

              You were asking what happened to those Tamil Buddhists. After the 10th century AD, some of them got converted into Tamil Hindus and moved to the North while others got converted into Sinhala Buddhists and moved to the South.

              Today the Sri Lankan Buddhists are Sinhalese and Sri Lankan Hindus are Tamils but that was not the case in the ancient past. In the past, not only there were Tamil Buddhists but also Hindu Sinhalese. Many Sinhalese, whether Buddhist or Christian, are still practicing Hindu religious traditions openly. At every Buddhist temple you find Hindu Gods (according to Buddhism, a Buddhist should not pray to any god). If you go to the Hindu temples like Katharagama and Muneshwaram, you find more Sinhala devotees than Tamil. On the other hand, even today if you go to the Naga Vihara Buddhist temple in Jaffna town (not the Nagadveepa), you will be able to see some locals (Tamils) worship the Buddha/Dagoba, it is a practice among some Tamils. During and after the long Chola rule in the 10th century AD, some Tamil Buddhists got converted into Tamil Hindus and moved to the North while others got converted into Sinhala Buddhists and moved to the South.

              From very early times, both Hinduism and Buddhism appeared to have flourished in Sri Lanka. The Buddhist archaeological sites in the Tamil North & East, or the Hindu archaeological sites in the Sinhala South are not strange phenomena in the island. The Sri Lankan Tamils had been living in all parts of Sri Lanka for many centuries. It was only after the Jaffna kingdom was formed in the 13th century, the Tamils were confined to the North and East. However, the Sri Lankan Tamils do not go and demographically claim Anuradhapura, Polonnaruwa (a capital built by the Cholas), Padaviya, Kurunegala, Kandy, Kotte (Colombo) or the Dondra Head (the southernmost point in the island), citing the presence of Saiva (Hindu) sites there like the Sinhalese claiming the North & East citing the presence of Buddhist sites.

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              @Sach

              there was a big Buddhist University In Kancheepuram in todays Tamil Nadu during 2nd to 11 th century this is a fact and plenty of evidences are there .

              If you are really a Tamil read the ancient classics and books where you can find ample evidences of Tamil Buddhists.

              Buddhism is not a religion but a philosophy ..which is commercialized in this cursed SrI Lanka ..after having watched many many blood baths Tamils have abandoned this sect.

              Look at Buddhist countries like Myanmar..Thailand…Cambodia ..Vietnam ..cursed Sri Lanka then and now blood is flowing and many cases instigated by saffron clad Buddhist ayatollahs there is something wrong with this Buddhism which talk about peace but always encourage blood bath

              Cheers

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        http://www.infitt.org/pmadurai/pm_etexts/utf8/pmuni0141.html

        Narendran,
        Manimekalai is above.
        Can you trace ‘Nagadeepam’ or ‘Nagatheepam’ ?

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          Justice,

          I have picked up this bit of information a long time ago, I am trying to find the source. Once I locate it, I shall let you know.

          Dr.RN

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            It was VOC and English traders who made maps and trade routes until Queen Victoria took over from the Nabobs of English East India Company.

            The company received a Royal Charter from Queen Elizabeth on 31 December 1600,[4] making it the oldest among several similarly formed European East India Companies. Wealthy merchants and aristocrats owned the Company’s shares.[5] The government owned no shares and had only indirect control.
            The company eventually came to rule large areas of India with its own private armies, exercising military power and assuming administrative functions.[6] Company rule in India effectively began in 1757 after the Battle of Plassey and lasted until 1858 when, following the Indian Rebellion of 1857, the Government of India Act 1858 led to the British Crown assuming direct control of India in the form of the new British Raj.
            The first British Indian mounted police was at Madras Presidency where the VOC had its post. Thats where all maps still are and under London Treaties at different places of England (not at british library)

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          Justice,

          Please read the following:

          Nagapooshani Amman Temple holds Maha Sangabhishekam
          by Chelvatamby Maniccavasagar
          The Maha Sangabhishekam of Nainativu Nagapooshani Amman Temple was held on March 13. Nainativu which is referred to as Nagatheevu or Nagadeepa is a small island of four square metres off the Jaffna peninsula. It enjoyed a foremost place in Sri Lanka’s history, having been the seat of Naga kingdom. Having several names such as Nagathivu, Nainathivu, Nagatheepam, Manithivu and Manipallavam, the location has been foremost in religious worship.

          Tradition strongly associate the island as having been visited by Kannakai and Manimekalai, sometime in their illustrious lives thus associating veneraters of Ambal Devi.

          The veneration of the cobra or serpent worship has been an ancient system. In due course, it is surmised, evolved the Hindu worship of Nagathambiran, when the Sivalinga Deity is canopied by the hood of five headed Cobra and Naga Pooshani Ambal worship when the Ambal Devi is similarly exalted. A foremost Sannithanam of this form of Ambal, also known as Nagambal or Nageswari is at Nainativu.

          Indeed, stories of the early temple at this venerable Naga Sthalam commences with the miracles observed by two traders known as Manayakan and Mahasathavan. They witnessed to their amazement a Naga Serpent swimming in the sea towards this isle with a flower.

          Snake
          Further, two stones in the sea are pointed out even today as being the stones behind which the snake took shelter. The two traders founded a temple here and dedicated it to Ambal. It was later rebuilt as a grand temple by Veerasami Chettiar. But the edifice was demolished by the Portuguese along with other Hindu temples in 1620. The Ambal Vigrakam was however saved from the demolishers and was kept hidden in the trunk of a tree and venerated.

          In the era of the revival of Hinduism spearheaded by Srila Sri Arumuganavalar a proper Agamic temple was erected in 1882 and the Ambal Devi Vigrakam was installed with the name of Naga Pooshani Amman Kovil. Regular worship ensued and several improvements were effected by various devotees. A Rajagopuram was effected in 1935. The management of the affairs of the temple came under a board of trustees in 1949.

          A magnificent Ther Chariot, said to be one of the best in Sri Lanka, was constructed for Nagapooshani Ambal in 1957. In the temple, there are shrines for Vinayagar and Subramaniyar. The annual festival lasts 15 days. On the other days, all the Hindu Saiva festivals are observed throughout the year. Daily regular poojas are performed four times.

          No story of Nainativu is complete without the mention of its outstanding saintly personality Nainativu Swamiyar. Born as Muthukumaraswamy, he became a great saint and died in 1949. His Samadi is a place of veneration in this isle even today.

          In connection with the Maha Sangabhishekam, Dr. Kanagasabapathy Nageswaran a senior Lecturer of the University of Sabaragamuwa and a devotee of the temple delivered religious lectures.

          http://www.sundayobserver.lk/2012/03/18/spe04.asp

          Dr.RN

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            Why are you so childish Mr’ Rajasingham? This is like a comment by a Suresh..what does this prove at all?

            Actually there is no evidence to link Manimekalai to SL..

            Even if one agrees with you for the sake of argument, then how can you ignore ALL the evidences that are against it?

            And please give me a proper source that talks about a tamil nation in SL..

            Your way of giving arguments is very childish that doesnt fit you

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              “Actually there is no evidence to link Manimekalai to SL..”

              Ha, ha, ha, this guy has read the Manimekalai??? LOL

              “And please give me a proper source that talks about a tamil nation in SL..”

              Do you know that more than 90’000 rare and unique ola leaves manuscripts related to History, Science, Poems and lyrics, Novels, Theology and Astrology were kept preserved in the Jaffna Library?

              All gone in smoke, thanks to the great Sinhala Nation who are now asking us for proper source.

              Btw, please give me a proper source that talks about a Sinhala nation in SL..

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                Suresh,

                I have been told Gamini Lokuge has some of these ‘supposed to be’ burnt documents. If true, there may be many more around. Would this government come forward to investigate this matter. The government should offer an amnesty to anyone who comes forward to return what is alleged to be in their possession- no questions asked and no names revealed.

                If this happens Sach may be able to get a peak of Sri Lankan Tamil history!

                Dr.RN

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              Sach,

              I have given you leads. If interested follow up on them. Learn Tamil to understand what is written in Tamil in a poetic format. Tamil prose developed only in the early 1900’s. Further, to another comment from you, do you know Ptolmy’s map identifies Anuradhapura as Anu Grammon. Could it be Anugrammam?

              I need not be a professional historian or as you call me a Vet- Historian to be interested in history or to know history to the extent I have striven to.

              I have referred to Ranawana et.al ‘ s 2014 publication on Sinhala and Tamil genetics in CT. Understand what he has researched and found. You will then understand who you, the Sinhalese and Sri Lankan Tamils
              are. Do not bury your head in the sand and imagine that Sri Lankans are what you pretend to imagine they are!

              Dr.RN

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            Chelvatamby Maniccavasagar is/was a fiction writer, who wrote many “appreciations” of baratha natya arangetams, weddings etc.

            The Manimekalai in the original which is entrenched in the Web by the Madurai Project as quoted by me above, has no reference to
            Nagatheepam.

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              Justice,

              Google searches under ‘ other names for Naninateevu’, ‘ Vediarasan’ and ‘ Nagatheepam’ reveal much information on that island. Further, Chelvathamby Manickavasagar had apparently read much about the island before writing his summary. Vediarasan too appeared to have played a big historical role in the affairs of the islands around Jaffna. I have also learned much about the evolution of the island’s name into Nainateevu,

              Dr. RN

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            Dr.Rajasingham Narendran

            The several little islands north still carry Dutch names and that is because the Secretary to Archbishop of Portuguese Goa was the first man to pen down the Portugese trade routes.In 1596 he published a book, Itinerario As a consequence,in 1600 The British East India Company and the Dutch East India Company broke the 16th-century monopoly enjoyed by the Portuguese on trade with the East Indies.
            The Brits first went to Surat from the west and VOC came via Bali and Bay of Bengal on the east. (this was because of the 5 ships sent to Phillipines for the Spanish from Flanders 2 were sent to Bali Sumatra Java.
            On the south western side of India where the Portugese operated until 1970 as slave traders under the protection of the British (In 1661 Catherina of Braganza offered Charles 2 of England, Bombay as dowry ) Because of the catholic/protestant wars and trade wars between Portuguese/VOC most invoices documents etc bearing VOC were destroyed by the Portugese while 99% of all VOC invoices kept at Madras Presidency are still in tact. Nothing at Colombo Galle etc because of same reason – destruction by Portugese and Sinhala identity frauds.

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        A correction: in Manimakalai, The present Nainathivu/ Nagadeepa is referred to as Manipallavam. The island was also known to Tamils as Nagateevu, because it was ruled by Naga Kings. Manimakalai was the daughter born to Kovalan and Mathavi. She became a Budhist nun and visited Nagadeepam/ nags dips/ Manipallavam accompanied by a senior Budhist nun, Kavunthi adigal. Kannagi ( Pathini Deviyo) was the wife of Kovalan and Mathavi was his mistress.

        When and why the island came to be called Nainathivu is not known.

        Dr.RN

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          Serendip was the original name for the present Sri Lanka. Then it was called Ceylon and now Sri Lanka. There will be another name for Sri Lanka in time.

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        What the MAnimekalai call for INdian, Indium ?

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          @ Jim Softy

          He he he another modaya style joke …

          .there was no poverty India before the arrival of British …poverty india is a set up for the administrative purpose by British rulers…collection of many tribes

          Manimekalai time there my be an India only in your imagination ok?

          Cheers

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      LOL…you know nothing

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        sachoooooooooooooo

        “LOL…you know nothing”

        If you know everything, please answer my question:

        What is the difference between you and a knife?

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          Would it be better if you can counter what this gentleman in the article wrote?

          I remember a tamil student in Jaffna accusing he doesnt get the chance to learn about ancient native tamil kings in lanka ….well well…how can you tell him..there is none

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            Sure there is – you just have to know where to look :D (since We Thamizh history in Sri Lanka seems to be wholly confined to Tamilnut.com and various blogs and postings by We Thamizh pseudo-historian nutjobs – who use Tamilnut.com as their source. ROFL)

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      There are number of small islands around Jaffna such as Mandaitivu, Analaitivu, Pungudutivu, Neduntivu, Karaitivu and Nainativu etc. There is a hindu temple in Nainativu. We call this temple as Nainativu Nagapoosani Amman kovil. The word “Naga” comes from a type of Snake. As far as I know we never called this island as “Nagadeepam” tivu. I cannot remember the buses going going Jaffna ever had a Name borad “Nagadeepam”. There is nothing wrong in calling “NagaTheepam” which is a Tamil name. However, Nainativu is the name that is commonly used by people for long time and I don’t know who changed to Nagadeepa. You can call it Nagadeepam, not Nagadeepa.

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        The Sinhala-Buddhists believe in a Myth that the Buddha made three magical trips to Sri Lanka. One of these trips was to settle a dispute between the Yakkhas and Nagas at Naga Divipa (Ninathivu) where the Buddha tamed the Yakkhas, the non-human inhabitants of the island.

        There is no evidence whatsoever to support this claim (Buddha’s 3 visits), other than the three chaithiyas (Buddhist structures) built in the recent past by the Sinhalese Buddhists at 3 different locations to say, ‘This is where Buddha came.’ Even the footprint of Buddha at Sri Pada (Adam’s peak) is nothing but an obvious fake. If they use the latest scientific tests, it will be obvious that the Buddhist structures in the so called Naga Deepa are not as old as what they claim, most probably not even as old as the Nainativu Nagapoosani Amman temple.

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          Yeah you people belive in things after scientific examination…

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            Ya It is unlike lion human hybridization in a scientific manner.

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            What are you talking about, of course We Thamizh do. There have even been peer reviewed scientific papers on the measurable effects of hanging like slabs of meat on hooks, pouring milk on the lingam, holding coconuts and rolling around in the mud like pigs in a sty etc (according to Tamilnut, the repository of all We Thamizh history and knowledge) :D

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          What is this name NAGA?
          Are you referring to Yaksha, Naga, Deva?

          If you read all the ancient Indian (Hindu, Buddhist & Jain) texts such as the Vedas, Upanishads, Ramayana, Mahabaratha, Jataka, Bagawath Geetha, etc, etc, you will find that in every text (both North and South Indian) the tribes Yaksha, Naga, Deva and many more are mentioned not as Sri Lankans but as Indians. In Tamil Nadu you will find ancient place name such as Nagakovil, Nagapatinam, etc that exists even today. How did the Indian Yaksha, Naga, Deva get into the Mahavamsa?

          Looks like the Mahavamsa author has done a copy-and-paste job. He has taken the Indian Yaksha, Naga, Deva tribes and converted them into native Sri Lankans. The only tribe original to Sri Lanka is the Veddas. The Sinhalese are nothing but Indians and mostly South Indians.

          Sri Lanka has place names which contain roots derived from Elu, Pali, Sanskrit, Sinhala, Tamil, Malayalam, Telugu, Portuguese, Dutch and English languages. Some twisted names are due to the inability of the European invaders to accurately sound a local name.

          A Study on Sri Lankan Tamil linguistics and culture by Prof Suseendirarajah
          http://www.noolaham.net/project/48/4781/4781.pdf

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            Cool story, bro :D
            By the way, the next time you’re copying and pasting garbage here (ie the next time you post), you should double check to make sure another We Thamizh scholar hasn’t already copied and pasted the same pile of steaming poo :D

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      Arabs and Singhalese together got rid of all Cholas from SL and India. That was how Cholas disappeared.

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        he he he there was no arab thoppies during chola times..in this land mass

        even for the last 30 years your Sinhala card board army could not win LTTE alone even with the help of thoppies till they get the Chemical weapons from India ….plus support from 34 countries

        How was the lessons at Aluthgama attack from Sinhalese ..

        Today thoppies are more hated human being in the entire world

        Cheers

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    Borad sings are in Tamil..Sinhala and English since British time ….nothing to boast ..

    There are Hindu temples inside Buddhist Vihara since ancient times not as a sign of tolerance but a facility for worship of Tamil Hindu Princesss and Queens who have married Sinhala rulers in those days thus mothers of todays Sinhalese were Tamils …

    Cheers

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    Prof. Chandre Dharmawardana

    RE: Nagadeepa & Nainathivu: Upholding All Parts Of The Cultural Mosaic

    “It has been reported that some Northern Provincial Council (NPC) members have initiated moves to change the name of Nagadeepa to Nainathivu, triggering polarization of opinion back to the feverish days of the TNA rallies in Vaddukkoddai (a town known even up to 1900 as Batakotte, marked as such in Dutch maps). That was a time when the gory verses of Kasi Ananthan calling for the blood of “traitors” were hailed as liberating “poetry”.

    Nagadeepa & Nainathivu Occupied by the Para-Tamils and Para-Sinhala along with the Other Paras, in the Land of Native Veddah Aethho.

    It Should be called Veddah Aethho Deepaya, not by any name given by the Para-Tamils or Para-Sinhala.

    Through a comparison with the mtDNA HVS-1 and part of HVS-2 of Indian database, both Tamils and Sinhalese clusters were affiliated with Indian subcontinent populations than Vedda people who are believed to be the native population of the island of Sri Lanka.

    http://www.nature.com/jhg/journal/v59/n1/full/jhg2013112a.html

    Mitochondrial DNA history of Sri Lankan ethnic people: their relations within the island and with the Indian subcontinental populations

    Journal of Human Genetics (2014) 59, 28–36; doi:10.1038/jhg.2013.112; published online 7 November 2013

    anka Ranaweera1,3, Supannee Kaewsutthi1,3, Aung Win Tun1, Hathaichanoke Boonyarit1, Samerchai Poolsuwan2 and Patcharee Lertrit1

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    Dear Prof,

    “Vaddukkoddai (a town known even up to 1900 as Batakotte, marked as such in Dutch maps)”.

    Europeans called yarlpanam as Jaffana. Do you get it?

    Readers might be interested in the discussion we had in
    https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/the-ep-13a-pc-and-the-presidential-poll-campaign/

    This is from afriend of mine –

    There is absolutely no truth in the statement that Vaddukkoddai was derived from the Sinhala place name ‘Batakotte’. Few years ago some one wrote an article in aSri Lankan weekly giving fanciful Sinhalised names to the place names in Jaffna.
    ‘Batakotte’ was one of them. Like Anaikoddai, Vaddukoddai is a pure Tamil name.

    1. Historically Jaffna has never been under the direct rule of any Sinhalese kings at any time for them to have a garrison at Vaddukkoddai. Only during the latter part of the 20th century the Sri Lankan army was stationed at Palaly and other places.

    2. Until about the fifth century the Capital of Jaffna was at Kantarodai. The land was known as Naganadu/Nagadipa. According to Manimekalai, written during the 3rd century, Valaivanan, the king ruling Nakanadu was a Tamil Buddhist. During that time many of the Tamils living in Jaffna were Buddhists. This Tamil epic speaks of Buddhist temples and institutions in the place. The heroine of this epic Manimekali visits all these Buddhist temples at Nakanadu, as well as the Buddha’s temple at Manipallavam.

    The Buddhist ruins at Kantarodai are the remains of this glorious past. Because of the presence of these Buddhist remains, people who do not know the history of Ancient Jaffna and its Tamil Buddhist people mistakenly believe these were built by the Sinhalese at Kantarodai. Presently there is an erroneous belief that all Buddhists of Sri Lanka were Sinhalese. Velkam Vihara at Priyakulam, now in ruins, was an exclusively Buddhist institution of the Tamils of Sri Lanka.

    The Sri Lankan Buddhist scholar Dhammaratna Thero in his Sinhala book Buddhism in South India published in 1968 speaks about this Buddhism among the Tamils of Tamilnadu and Sri Lanka.

    It was after the resurgence of Saivism in the 7th century and following the invasions by the Cholas that the people of Jaffna resorted to Saivism in a large scale. During this period, there was a sect called Siva-bauddhas in Tamil Nadu and Jaffna who believed that Buddha was an incarnation of God Siva and prayed them both.

    3. The Pali chronicle Culavamsa speaks about conflicts between the Sinhalese kings and the Damilas occupying Uttaradesa (North) during 6th-10th centuries indicating that the
    Jaffna region was never under their control.

    4. By the 11th century Kalinga-Mahan, a Hindu king captured Polonnaruwa and ruled the north from there.

    5. By 1215 the Kingdom of Jaffna was established. This village was called Vaddukoddai.

    (Reference: Yalpana Vaipava Malai)There were some Sinhalese people living in Jaffna at that time. But they migrated to the South when the kings of Jaffna totally adhered to Saivism.

    6. In 1621 the Portuguese captured Jaffna. In their documents Vaddukoddai was written as Bathucothe (Reference: Paul Pieris: The Kingdom of Jafanapatam 1645).

    During the British Period, the American Missionaries who established a seminary at Vaddukoddai called it the Batticotta Seminary. The term Batakotte was never in vogue. There is no epigraphic evidence to support this claim.

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      “It was after the resurgence of Saivism in the 7th century and following the invasions by the Cholas that the people of Jaffna resorted to Saivism in a large scale. During this period, there was a sect called Siva-bauddhas in Tamil Nadu and Jaffna who believed that Buddha was an incarnation of God Siva and prayed them both”

      The whole of ancient Serendip was a Saiva Island until middle of 2nd Century BC, when India and South India became more of Buddhism spreading land under Asoka, Island also became a complete Buddhist nation fervently but with untypical hate for Saivism, Northern Islanders as well became Buddhists, Kantharodai becoming best veneration city. But with Buddhist monks’ fanaticism on the upheaval of reemergence of Hinduism -THE ISLANDERS BEGAN TO REVERT BACK TO SAIVISM, and Sinhala language not yet sprinted until 6th Century BC. kings and Monks of Serendip were all out war against Saiva civics and pushed them towards North and East since Anuradhapura /Plonaruwa period. Even Elara vs Thuttakaimunu war was in fact Buddhism survival against Saivam.

      Though author of article had a good intention of promoting the use of names in both languages to be expressive of the national heritage, his lines of arguments to achieve that intention had let him down very badly.

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      There is another Vattakottai on the other side of the sea at the Kannyakumari beach in Tamil Nadu. The meaning of Vatta or Vattu in Tamil is round or circular and the meaning of Kottai is Fort. Obviously, Vaddukoddai is a circular shaped Fort. This Prof. Chandre Dharmawardana is a crook who is trying to mislead the innocent Sinhalese to believe his concocted stories. What he should remember is that he can fool the Sinhalese but not the Tamils.

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        Very similar to what the crackpot Racist (Natural Science) professor Nalin Silva used to write, Prof. Chandre Dharmawardana also used to write racist articles under the pet name Gamvasiya. Reading Prof. Chandre Dharmawardana’s (another Natural Scientist and NOT a Social Scientist) Racist articles is just like reading another article of Prof. Nalin Silva.

        Most of his arguments on history are based on assumptions, hypothesis, analogies, etc. He never comes up with any solid evidence to prove what he says is true but simply quotes some ‘scholars’ whose credibility is in question (either a racist like him without any *verifiable data* or some biased researchers with hypothetical assumptions/interpretations or un-authoritative/officially un-published, half-baked historical work of some researchers completely neglecting the controversial nature of their research.).

        Prof. Chandre Dharmawardana (a Chemistry-Physics researcher) is not an etymologist or a linguist and neither is he a Tamil/Sinhala scholar who has done research in the Tamil/Sinhala languages. All what he has done in his website is his own creation or assumptions. These people can speculate or create anything and write glamorized articles to convince a few confused and misguided individuals but calling them ‘FACTS’ is simply ridiculous.

        TamilNet also has a web page called ‘Know the Etymology’ where each place name is fully analysed in detail, which looks more authentic than this guy’s rubbish.

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          This is what happens when every clown is allowed to write/interpret history. Prof. N.K. (Nira) Wickramasinghe who was trained as a historian once said, Sri Lanka is one of the few countries in which mainstream newspapers carried pieces on history by those without any credentials or formal training in the disciplines of history and historiography. This, she wrote, would never happen in India for instance, where any incursion into history in the quality press would have to be backed up with credentials in order to secure publication.

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    The out and out racists seen in the AUTHOR, NPC and COMMENTATORS are best ignored. Time to move on folks, especially to the author. Bigger problems facing the nation.

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      Lets not forget that small problems become big problems if unattended. This is the time for conciliation not division. Just as much as no one bothers a distinction of Dehiwala with Dehiwalai, leaving them to be synonymous, it is best that they be left alone instead of politicians creating problems. Karl Marx is supposed to have quoted that “Religion is the opium of the masses”, I would like to say that created political problems are the opium of the masses.

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    Now i invite the resident self proclaimed tamil historians who distort SL history to come here and argue with this gentleman based on facts and evidence…
    Please use proper sources….

    I see already the vet-historian has come…..please give your answers and prove this man wrong..

    The cut and paste specialist Suresh and other liars as Nathan can come

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      Sach

      This so called gentleman with his so called facts and evidence is nothing but fake most probably created by him. There is hardly any difference between you and him, just another clown.

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        So you cannot counter him?
        You mean all the evidence including the ancient maps created by NON sinhalas are also fake..the only thing right is that manimekalai which is not taken seriously by any proper historian?

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          “You mean all the evidence including the ancient maps created by NON sinhalas are also fake..”

          Exactly! You are right!

          The maps shown in the link provided by this so called ‘gentleman’ is NOT from any Portuguese, Dutch or British archives but fake maps created by some Sinhalese. Even the so called foreign language maps/archives as shown in the web site is a fake created by the Sinhalese to fool their own people. None of them are authentic. This guy is a fraud.

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          Sach,

          “You mean all the evidence including the ancient maps created by NON sinhalas are also fake..”

          Exactly! You are right!

          The maps shown in the link provided by this so called ‘gentleman’ is NOT from any Portuguese, Dutch or British archives but fake maps created by some Sinhalese. Even the so called foreign language maps/archives as shown in the web site is a fake created by the Sinhalese to fool their own people. None of them are authentic. This guy is a fraud.

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            Funny how the fake maps created by the sneaky Sinhalam have found their way into the Dutch National Archives :D Almost as funny as how the twisted names the Dutch came up with seem strangely Sinhalese :D Oh how We Thamizh squirm and embarrass ourselves when confronted with real evidence :D

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              Dutch National Archives???

              My foot! LOL!

              You can create a web site in Dutch language, insert some maps and some writings and then call it Dutch National Archives. You can fool the Sinhalese but NOT we Thamizh. We Thamizh are not going to complain :D

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                Suresh

                “You can fool the Sinhalese but NOT we Thamizh. We Thamizh are not going to complain”

                However, VP took you for a ride for thirty odd long years. Do you regret?

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                  Veddha,

                  “However, VP took you for a ride for thirty odd long years. Do you regret?”

                  Not at all because We Thamizh were enjoying the ride. VP handed over the baton to the WEST and We Thamizh are still enjoying it.

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                    Suresh

                    “Not at all because We Thamizh were enjoying the ride.”

                    Of course you were, while your people were being killed in thousands and VP being entertained with a hot iron rod and a chop with an axe to his head.

                    Now the WEST is taking you for a roller coaster ride. Enjoy while it last. When fall flat on your face, don’t blame the WEST but you.

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                      Veddha,

                      We never blamed VP and we are never going to blame the West either. The roller coaster ride is better than the ride that MR took everybody for around 10 years. :D

                      Everything is going in the right direction (including the ride) and We Tamizhs are not complaining… LOL!

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                ROFL, yes of course The Nationaal Archief is just some website knocked together by Sinhalam :D As I said, oh how We Thamizh embarrass ourselves :D

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          These Sinhalam sure are a sneaky bunch. First they set up some Dutch webpages with 100% totally fake maps which certainly were not produced by the VOC showing almost the entirety of the We Thamizh homeland used to be Sinhalese not so long ago.

          Not content with just that they then went over to The Hague and put up a building and stuck actual physical copies of said maps along with thousands of other historical collections in there. And then convinced everyone that this was the national archive of the Netherlands. But of course We Thamizh have extremely high IQs. We Thamizh aren’t going to be fooled by such tricks :D

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            Siva Sankaran Sarma

            I thought you are as stupid as your name and your biological father (whoever he may be) must be regretting why he did not use a piece of rubber and poor Sarma wondering why his son does not have his traits but however you seem to be having a little bit of grey matter to understand exactly how the Sinhalayas create fake maps, websites, etc and call them Dutch archives. No worries, WE THAMIZH know them for centuries.

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              Cry baby cry :D And tell us again all about how We Thamizh know that the Dutch National Archive in The Hague and its official website was set up by the insidious Sinhalam :D

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                HA, ha, ha…LOL! Man I’m still crying…! :D

                The maps shown in the link is NOT from the genuine Dutch National Archive in The Hague and its official website but a fake created by some Sinhalese. Show us something authentic like the genuine Dutch National Archive instead of coming up with some rubbish website created by some Sinhalese racists (a fake Dutch National Archive) to hoodwink their own Sinhalese people. Anyways, you cannot fool We Tamizhs, but man I am still crying… :D

                We Tamizhs are not complaining though..LOL!

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                  Poor Suresh – his mommy must have missed out on the We Thamizh inbreeding sessions and he’s ended up with a bit of Sinhalam in him, probably courtesy of Gorboral Buthupanda or Gapdain Abbuhamy :D After all if he was a pure blooded high IQ We Thamizh he’d surely know how to do a simple Google search and stop embarrassing himself by going on about a fake Dutch National Archive set up by the Sinhalam :D

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                    “Poor Suresh – his mommy must have missed out on the We Thamizh inbreeding sessions and he’s ended up with a bit of Sinhalam in him,”

                    Oh poor me, thanks for your tears. Anyways, do not cry for me baby, I am fine with it.

                    Btw, check your DNA, our Off The Wall will be able to tell you from which TN tribal area (Dalit) your ancestors came to SL and got converted into Sinhala-Buddhists?
                    For several centuries, We Tamizhs believed and still believe that the Sinhalayas are nothing but low caste Tamil converts. GG Ponnambalam had openly said this in several political meetings. It has even led to the very first Sinhala-Tamil riot in 1939.

                    A simple Google search will take you to several Dutch National Archives including the fake ones set up by the Sinhalam for the Sinhalam. We Tamizhs are not interested in those.

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                      Poor chap has started hallucinating about Sinhalam Dutch National archives showing up in Google searches as well :D I guess discovering his true ancestry has had a profound effect on his already questionable mental health. At least now you can stop wondering why you weren’t blessed with a high IQ like the rest of us pure blooded high caste We Thamizh :D

                      Don’t cry, it also means you can claim at least part of the real history of Sri Lanka as your own, rather than just being a descendant of coolies who hadn’t yet arrived even when the VOC was drafting their maps of the newfound We Thamizh homeland :D You should plan a trip to The Hague to check some of it out, you can visit some We Thamizh recently jailed there as well :D

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                      Siva Sankaran Sarma

                      Ha, ha, ha LOL! Man, I just cannot stop laughing!
                      So now I am mad and started hallucinating? :D
                      I can feel your pain (anger) man, poor fella… :D

                      According to the pure blooded high caste We Thamizh politicians (the Colombo 7 type) of the past, the Sinhalese are nothing but low caste South Indians (Kerala, Tamil Nadu & Andara) who got converted into Sinhala-Buddhist.

                      G. G. Ponnambalam in his 1939 Nawalapitiya address said that ‘the Sinhalese are a hybrid mongrel race split from the aboriginal Tamils and mixed with Aryan invaders’. This was the spark that ignited the first Sinhala-Tamil riot in Sri Lanka in 1939 but the British were quick enough to put it down.

                      Today, the genetic studies also shows that more than 50% of the Sinhala population is having South Indian genes proving what those pure blooded high caste We Thamizh politicians said, that is most of them (Sinhalese) are South Indian converts.

                      So, when you talk of South Indian coolies you should check your own DNA because a large part of them (your ancestors) were settled in the South for cinnamon plantation. Today they are the most racist Sinhala-Buddhists.

                      Man, these are not my story but verifiable facts, you are personally attacking the messenger (I’m immune though) for educating you.

                      As long as We Thamizh are concerned, everything is going in the right direction and We Thamizh are not complaining…LOL!

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                      Cool story bro :D
                      You must be relieved that we’ve finally solved the mystery of your missing We Thamizh high IQ right?

                      And just think, thanks to these revelations you could even go so far as to call the north and east the traditional homeland of your ancestors, as according to real, verifiable, physical documents created by the Dutch they used to be occupied by the Sinhalam right up until We Thamizh chattel were imported to do coolie work :D

                      So stop screeching in agony :D

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                      Wee Thamihz Siva Sankaran Sarma Menon

                      “rather than just being a descendant of coolies who hadn’t yet arrived even when the VOC was drafting their maps of the newfound We Thamizh homeland”

                      What are the descendants of south Indians of Sri Lankan origin doing in medieval middle east kingdoms? The last time I checked, the number was more than 2.5 million.

                      Are your women folks mother, wife, daughters, sisters, aunts, grandmas, …… part of Emirs’ harem, providing all kind of services?

                      They rather live with Emirs than men(?) like you? We shouldn’t blame them.

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                      “Cool story bro :D You must be relieved that we’ve finally solved the mystery of your missing We Thamizh high IQ right? And just think, thanks to these revelations you could even go so far as to call the north and east the traditional homeland of your ancestors,”

                      Exactly, you are absolutely correct…

                      “as according to real, verifiable, physical documents created by the Dutch they used to be occupied by the Sinhalam right up until We Thamizh chattel were imported to do coolie work :D”

                      Ha, ha, ha LOL!

                      real, verifiable, physical documents created by the Dutch (SIC) they used to be occupied by the Sinhalam???

                      My FOOT! ROFLMAO!

                      “Thamizh chattel were imported to do coolie work”

                      Yes, they were all settled in the South (your ancestors), today they are Sinhala-Buddhists and as the Veddha said, most of their women folk have turned into slaves in the Arab world. These poor Sinhala-Buddhist women are earning foreign exchange for the country not only as coolies but by selling their everything.

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                      More about coolies for Siva Sankaran Sarma who ran away leaving his Lankot (amude).

                      Australian town ‘Badagini’ named by Sinhalese coolies (migrant labour) in 1880s.

                      In 1882, British ship named DEVONSHIRE left Colombo with 482 people. There were 11 Malays, 8 Moors and 14 Sinhala women with eight children; the rest being Sinhalese men. The members of the Anti-Cooley League (who oppose import of foreign labour) in Queensland surrounded the landing area and pelted stones at Cingalese with the intention of driving them back to the vessel. However, the protesters encountered a sudden and unanticipated experience in their own territory, suffered a rude shock and in undue haste, confusion and disorder, ran helter-skelter. The Cingalese chased the leaguers away from the scene; even caused physical injury to quite few who were caught in a stampede.

                      See more at: http://www.dailymirror.lk/95573/australian-town-badagini-named-by-sinhala-migrant-labour-in-1880s#sthash.JFSjBPCL.dpuf

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                      Cool story bro :D
                      So just to recap for our readers’ benefit:
                      The Sinhalam have always been aware of the We Thamizh high IQ, and knew it wouldn’t be easy to fool 100% pure blooded We Thamizh. So they hatched a plan..
                      A couple of hundred years ago the Sinhalam infiltrated The Hague and set up the Nationaal Archief, made it look all official and put some forged maps in there which had the totally 100% real We Thamizh homeland replaced by Sinhalese towns and villages. They put 1000s of other collections in there too, so as not to raise any suspicions.

                      They did this, so that a couple of hundred years later they could set up an “official” website for the fake Nationaal Archief and host scans of the abovementioned maps to fool the genuine We Thamizh historians who only take bulletproof sources like Tamilnut and random blogs by other high IQ We Thamizh seriously. The art of the long con :D But We Thamizh aren’t fooled though, We Thamizh are onto these insidious Sinhalam tactics :D

                      As I said, cool story bro – hope to see it on Kindle soon :D

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                      “So just to recap for our readers’ benefit: The Sinhalam have always been aware of the We Thamizh high IQ, and knew it wouldn’t be easy to fool 100% pure blooded We Thamizh. So they hatched a plan.”

                      Exactly, you are absolutely correct! :D

                      “A couple of hundred years ago the Sinhalam infiltrated The Hague and set up the Nationaal Archief, made it look all official and put some forged maps in there which had the totally 100% real We Thamizh homeland replaced by Sinhalese towns and villages. They put 1000s of other collections in there too, so as not to raise any suspicions.”

                      NO, the Sinhalam never infiltrated Hague and set up any National archives. (In fact, the Sinhalams know about Hague only after committing war crimes). The original maps are available in the Dutch National archive and We Thamizh have no issues about that. The so called websites in the Dutch language assumed to be Dutch National archive (with some so called Ceylon maps) are fake websites created by some Sinhalams to fool Sinhalam.

                      “We Thamizh historians who only take bulletproof sources like Tamilnut and random blogs by other high IQ We Thamizh seriously.”

                      TamilNet also has a web page called ‘Know the Etymology’ where each place name is fully analysed in detail and looks much more authentic than this guy’s rubbish.

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                      The Nationaal Archief (Dutch National Archives) is the ‘national memory’ of the Netherlands. Search for Ceylon maps (1656–1796) in the National Archives of the Netherlands and show me where you found Sinhala names in Jaffna?

                      Do not come up with utter stupid arguments like this Prof. saying Vaddukoddai was Batakotte (just because the Dutch mispronounced it) in the Dutch maps and therefore it is a Sinhala name. The meaning of Vatta or Vattu in Tamil is round or circular and the meaning of Kottai is Fort (a circular shaped fort). There is another Vattakottai on the other side of the sea at the Kannyakumari beach in Tamil Nadu. You can fool the Sinhalese but not the We Thamizh.

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                      Cool story bro, glad you agree with my recap on the epic 200 odd year long con by the Sinhalam :D You should make sure to add that bit about how the Dutch “mispronounced” all the genuine 100% We Thamizh place names and, luckily for the Sinhalam, just ended up with their Sinhalam versions (as you do, of course) :D

                      Poor Suresh, he’s just googled and discovered what the Nationaal Archief is, realised the cool story about the Sinhalam setting it up isn’t going to fly and now he’s tying himself in all kinds of knots :D This would never have happened if he were a 100% pure blooded high IQ high caste We Thamizh and not one of the numerous results of Gapdain Buthupanda’s escapades in the We Thamizh homeland :D

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                      Siva Sankaran Sarma

                      “You should make sure to add that bit about how the Dutch “mispronounced” all the genuine 100% We Thamizh place names and, luckily for the Sinhalam, just ended up with their Sinhalam versions (as you do, of course) :D”

                      Exactly, the Sinhalams are experts in twisting, turning and manipulating everything. In Sri Lanka, the history is already twisted many centuries ago and sealed. What we have is not history but his-story (Ven. Mahanama Thero’s story). After several centuries today the myth has become the truth and the Sinhalese believe it as gospel. If anybody tries to undo the twist (after enormous amount of new discoveries) he/she will be considered an unpatriotic traitor or even a terrorist supporter.

                      “Poor Suresh, he’s just googled and discovered what the Nationaal Archief is, realised the cool story about the Sinhalam setting it up isn’t going to fly and now he’s tying himself in all kinds of knots :D This would never have happened if he were a 100% pure blooded high IQ high caste We Thamizh and not one of the numerous results of Gapdain Buthupanda’s escapades in the We Thamizh homeland :D”

                      You seem to be very good at writing comedy/humour, the above is absolutely hilarious, LOL. You can compile all these jokes into a book, who knows it can become a best seller. :D

                      BTW, you seem to be very ignorant or rather an uneducated person. Just writing a few English paragraphs will not make you educated. Instead of arguing just for the sake of arguing, you should gather some basic knowledge before coming to argue in such public forums. At least you should read some authentic books published on this subject before engaging in such exchanges.

                      This Chandre Dharmawardana aka Gamvasiya is not a trained professor in History. He is a prof. in Chemistry & Physics.

                      To know our colonial history, you should read books written by expert scholars/trained historians of Sri Lanka who have done research on colonial history. For example, late Prof. T. B. H. (Tikiri) Abeyasinghe, Senior Professor of Modern History at the University of Colombo was one of the very few who has done extensive research on Portuguese history in Sri Lanka by studying Portuguese archives and Goa archives by living in those countries. He has published several books on the Portuguese rule in Sri Lanka. You should at least read one of his books “Jaffna under the Portuguese”, by Prof Tikiri Abeyasinghe, published in 1986 to get some basic idea about Jaffna during the Portuguese period. You will come to know the existence of the Jaffna Tamil Kingdom and the Tamils in Jaffna.

                      Please educate yourself before coming to such public forums and exposing your ignorance.

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                      LOL this poor fellow Suresh, rambling and jumping from branch to branch as each of his comical “explanations” for the Dutch recording Sinhalam presence in the We Thamizh homeland gets shot down in flames :D Oh the Nationaal Archief was set up by Sinhalam! Oh that’s a fake map! Oh that’s just the Dutch mispronouncing and conveniently ending up with Sinhalam! Oh the Sinhalam twisted that centuries ago! ROFL :D

                      This is what’s known as getting caught with your amude around your ankles in public – a concept I’m sure you’re familiar with as a proponent of We Thamizh “history” :D You should add some of what I’ve revealed about your personal origins and that of the so called We Thamizh homeland to your repertoire of copy paste responses – like how you copied bits and pieces from the Sinhalam created Nationaal Archief website when you finally discovered its existence after learning the basics of Google :D

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                      ‘’LOL this poor fellow Suresh, rambling and jumping from branch to branch as each of his comical “explanations” for the Dutch recording Sinhalam presence in the We Thamizh homeland gets shot down in flames :D’’

                      Ha, ha, ha… LOL!

                      This poor Siva Sankaran the adopted son of Sarma is in a pathetic state, blabbering and hallucinating, and talking gibberish.

                      rambling and jumping from branch to branch??? A good joke!

                      gets shot down in flames??? Another good one. LOL!

                      ‘’Oh the Nationaal Archief was set up by Sinhalam! Oh that’s a fake map! Oh that’s just the Dutch mispronouncing and conveniently ending up with Sinhalam! Oh the Sinhalam twisted that centuries ago!’’

                      Exactly! This is what I am saying consistently, from very beginning till now.

                      ‘’This is what’s known as getting caught with your amude around your ankles in public – a concept I’m sure you’re familiar with as a proponent of We Thamizh “history”’’

                      This is exactly what has happened to you people. Getting caught with your amude around your ankles in public for twisting and turning the facts.

                      ‘’You should add some of what I’ve revealed about your personal origins and that of the so called We Thamizh homeland to your repertoire of copy paste responses – like how you copied bits and pieces from the Sinhalam created Nationaal Archief website when you finally discovered its existence after learning the basics of Google’’

                      Another very good joke, man you are extremely good to become a clown. Think about it if you are not already one.

                      BTW, try to learn some very basics before coming to a public forum without displaying your ignorance.

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                      LOL you poor thing, all that effort copying and pasting (even from posts by Tamilnut historians in this very article – hilarious) and rambling incoherently and yet the facts are stubborn :D If only howling and hollering like mad could erase the VOC maps held in the Dutch archives showing the entirety of the We Thamizh homeland used to be Sinhalam, or somehow convince non We Thamizh these were set up by the Sinhalam (so a couple of hundred years later they could point to them and claim the We Thamizh homeland :D). But alas I don’t think it works that way :D Kadavule! :D Don’t cry man, just keep trying – there’s always a chance We Thamizh will suddenly discover that Croydon is in fact a We Thamizh homeland just like what happened in Sri Lanka :D

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                      “LOL you poor thing, all that effort copying and pasting (even from posts by Tamilnut historians in this very article – hilarious) and rambling incoherently and yet the facts are stubborn”

                      Poor Siva Sankaran chap has become a comedy piece. Man, copying and pasting does not need any effort, LOL!

                      Tamilnet historians are much much much better than those Singalam historians who twist and turn and create their own stories. However much you ramble incoherently the facts are always stubborn and not in your favour. :D

                      “If only howling and hollering like mad could erase the VOC maps held in the Dutch archives showing the entirety of the We Thamizh homeland used to be Sinhalam, or somehow convince non We Thamizh these were set up by the Sinhalam (so a couple of hundred years later they could point to them and claim the We Thamizh homeland :D).”

                      Ha, ha, ha LOL!

                      However much you howl and holler like mad, you know very well that the so called ‘VOC maps’ held in a web site created by the Singalams to look like ‘Dutch archives’ is a fake. These maps are NOT hundred years old but very recently created fake maps by some Singalams.

                      “Don’t cry man, just keep trying – there’s always a chance We Thamizh will suddenly discover that Croydon is in fact a We Thamizh homeland just like what happened in Sri Lanka”

                      ROFLMAO!

                      Who is crying here??? This is one of the best examples of pot calling the kettle black! LOL!

                      We Thamizh homeland (Tamil Country in the future) is ONLY, I repeat ONLY in Sri Lanka and not anywhere else (not even in TN). We Thamizh may live all over the world but the one and only one country for We Thamizh is ONLY in Sri Lanka. It was known as Shiva Boomi in ancient Tamil sangam period, it belongs to none other than We Thamizh and we will definitely have it. Today it may be a dream but tomorrow it will be a reality.

                      Remember, We Thamizh are not asking for any country in India or any part of the world, We Thamizh are ONLY asking for a country in SL because it belonged to us, we are the rightful owners and NOT the Singalams. You can show us any amount of maps but We Thamizh are NEVER going to accept them because We Thamizh know very well what the Singalams are capable of. LOL!

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                    Too bad for We Thamizh those maps are taken straight from the Dutch archives :D
                    http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/afbeeldingen/kaartencollectie/zoeken/weergave/detail/tstart/0/q/zoekterm/Kaart%20van%20Jaffanapatnam/start/2

                    Ayayyoo andawane muruga! What are these Dutch doing mispronouncing totally We Thamizh names like “Caradive”, “Mandadive”, “Tanedive”, “Weligama”, “Batakotte” etc etc :D

                    Poor, delusional Suresh still babbling on about the Nationaal Archief being a plot by the Sinhalam :D Now howwwl :D

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    LOL at the fake tamil historians….

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      ROFLOL at the fake Sinhala historians…

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        I am not a historian…I just ask you what your sources are for your claims and prove that they are dead wrong..

        And I am enjoying your pain now

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          “And I am enjoying your pain now”

          Man, you are absolutely hilarious. ROFLMAO!

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    Naga Theepam is the name for the island Of Yarlpanam. Jaffna Peninsula is not not a penenisula but an island. Or the name for the island of Sri Lanka. It is Singhala Domination let them change the name and wait for political domination to revert it back or to give another name either in Hindi or Chinese.

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    “The NPC passed its contentious charge of “Genocide” against all governments since 1948”

    There is no doubt. It is genocide.

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      “A resolution passed by the NPC earlier this month, calling on the international community to investigate charges of genocide and prosecute the perpetrators, was “timely” and the facts listed are all true, said Tamil National Alliance MP MA Sumanthiran on Sunday.

      In an interview with Ceylon Today, the MP criticised the government for failing to keep promises regarding the resettlement of displaced people in the North-East, but stressed the TNA will continue to support the new government through the parliamentary election.

      “The resolution is timely and the facts which have been listed out in it are nothing but true.” Mr Sumanthiran said. “It was a sheer democratic action and very well drafted, taking into consideration the grievances of the people directly affected by the war. Various comments could surface with regard to the resolution, but it was aimed at seeking justice for the people who have been affected by the ruthless war in the North.”

      Mr Sumanthiran stressed reconciliation cannot be discussed without addressing the grievances of the people.

      “The Chief Minister has clearly pointed out the atrocities committed systematically towards the Tamils since the country gained independence. Therefore without addressing the genuine grievances of the people affected by the communal upheavals in the past, we cannot talk of reconciliation. Therefore, the genocide resolution was brought out to identify the perpetrators who had committed the war crimes and bring justice to the war victims. The resolution is not at all meant to hurt the feelings of those who strive for peace and reconciliation in the country,” he said.

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    What a stupid thing to fight? u have a drinking culture introduced by MR,drug culture introduced by fisherman from Tamil NADU,so many tiger fighters who lost their legs and arms, so many thousands of war widows ,unemployment etc etc.You buggers get along with the Govt and solve. All these social problems instead of talking about Tamil nationalism which is completely dead 10 years ago.You put an M ,it becomes a Tamil word – NAGADEEPAM.This is the problem in electing greedy ,self centered pigs in the election like SIVAJILINGAM.In reality Tamil nationalism lost a war and 17 million Sinhalese will never ever allow it to raise it’s ugly head again.You better get along with the Govt.and get maximum benefit if you have any brains.Tamils fought a tamil nationalism war for nearly sixty years and failed miserably.

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      Das

      Whom did you aim your tirade at?

      Tamil Nationalism was dead immediately after Vattukottai resolution was passed.

      “In reality Tamil nationalism lost a war and 17 million Sinhalese will never ever allow it to raise it’s ugly head again.”

      Its up to the Sinhalese to decide how they intend to give it to the Tamils. Its up to the Hindians to deliver it.

      It seems that the 17 Million stupid people are desperate to separate the island. Let the Hindian decide the modalities, when, how, nature, ….

      “When”, depends on how desperate the Sinhala/Buddhists are.

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        Tamil Nationalism was dead immediately after Vattukottai resolution was passed. /////HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

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          sachooooooooo

          “HA HA HA HA HA HA HA”

          Fools rush in where angels fear to tread.

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    Nainathivu is all about tamizing northern Sri lanka and building Tamil homeland there.

    Tamils are bullying sinhala people for a homeland in the north,.

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    Prof. Chandre Dharmawardana

    Reveal your DNA and I’ll prove your ancestor was a Muniandy from Tamil Nadu.

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      LMAO

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      We can prove that all the Tamils related chimpanzees.

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        Jim softy

        Can you please tell us from which TN tribal area (Dalit) your ancestors came to SL and got converted into Sinhala-Buddhists?

        At least if you Reveal your DNA, OTW will tell your ancestor was from which part of Tamil Nadu.

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        Jim softy

        “We can prove that all the Tamils related chimpanzees.”

        You may be right in what you say.

        The first ape spoke Tamil and practiced Saivaism according to Tamils.

        However Sinhala/Buddhists say the first Ape spoke Sinhala and practiced Buddhism.

        Can you both sort out your difference?

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      ha ha cant bear the facts…what matter is not his ancestry….but the history of this island…

      Even a tamil if he came to SL and become a part of Sinhala nation..he is a good sinhala and he has all the rights to sinhala heritage

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    names places society are not fixed all changes with time. historical facts are ther for analysis by inquiring intelligent minds. at all costs dignity of the society as it excists must be protected

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      Of course that changes with time..that is what has happened..but it hurts the fake historians and their political propaganda

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    The two epics “Kundalakesi” and “Manimekalai” describe the Island as “Manipalavam”or NagaTivu or NagaNadu. Are we going to call it as Manipallavam. The Tamils from the North have been calling the Island for a long time as “Ninativu” where once the folklore inhabitants were people called Nagas. So one commentator said let the Tamils call the Island as “Nainativu” and let the Sinhalese call it as “Nagadeepa”. For local administration the island is registered as Nainativu, why change it. It is not a big issue.

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    I am surprised that a person who calls himself a Professor can produce an essay on place names,quoting even the Mahavamsa which for all purposes and intents is a work of FICTION!

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      Plato

      Is it true Battaramulla was a thriving Tamil settlement in the ancient time? The name supposed to have evolved from Tamil Paththar Moolai (Gold Smith Corner) to Battamulla over a long period of time.

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        LOL…do you know that Sydney used to be an ancient tamil settlement? They have found a fossiled wade parcel there…

        And LOs Angeles too….London was developed from Londonoolai

        What sort of idiots are you…? Going down to the extreme low level of stealing one’s country….what have you here to show for yourself..I understand the tamil arrogance was wounded by this gentleman’s write up.

        Come with proper evidences and not what your wife said…

        LOL at you fake tamil historians

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          sachooooooooo

          “LOL…do you know that Sydney used to be an ancient tamil settlement? “

          I find that the early Sinhala/Buddhists kallathonies who went to Australia searching for food had named a town, ‘Badagini’/‘Baddaginnie’. The town is situated in Victoria.

          It is a great achievement for descendants of Sinhala/Buddhists Kallathonies whose origin is traced to Tamilnadu.

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    Shall we put back Kalutara’s real name to its original name Cal Turai (rock fort). See 1825 Map of Sri Lanka.

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    What was the religion of king Vijaya( if he really was a historical figure)?
    what was the religion of his friends and wives( who were Tamil Pandyans), and their servants who came from Tamil Nadu?
    what was the religion of Pre Buddhist Sinhalese?
    if they were Hindus then why is there not a single sinhala Hindu now?
    the answer to this would also explain why there is not a single Tamil Buddhist now in Sri Lanka.
    Buddhism came to Sri Lanka from (North) India not by flight but by land. it had to come through Tamil Nadu. Mahendra (Mahinda) and his people would have had to embark a ship from a Tamil Nadu costal town and land on a Tamil coastal village in Sri Lanka as that would have been the shortest and established sea route. so some Tamils could have become Buddhist before anyone in Lanka.
    religions can come and go in a race. claiming land based on religious structures and texts found there does not work unfortunately.

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    Since independence these jokers sell mahavamsa myth….to modayas

    Mahavmasa is a fabricated comic book …

    There is not a single historical or scientific proof about this deported criminal Vijaya and his thugs ..

    The joke is his ships never reached todays Visakapatanam area…Nagapatanam area …Trincomale area ..or Danuskodi but reached Mannar ….it seems this deported criminal used a super GPS system…

    Mahavamsa was written by racists Buddhist Ayatullahs to show that Tamil never lived here ….

    An international historian team should investigate and re write the history of this cursed Island…..

    Sinhalse came from todays Kerala then Tamil Sera kingdom ….even today there is a town named Panadura in Kerala…just one example …

    Dont fool the people anymore..

    Cheers

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      Mahavamsa is not “just a myth”. It is more historical than Ramayana or mahaBharatha or the Old testament (a mythical history of the Jews). The Vijaya-Kuveni myth is similar to the myths found in Greek histories like those of Herodotus. So you have to compare it with books of that period, and then you realize that it is a remarkably accurate document, as stated by the Historian Indrapala in his book about the “emergence of an ethnic identity”. The Historian Arasaratnam has also written favourably of it.

      In fact Mahavamsa has done much better than most ancient history books. Quoting from the encyclopedia we have the information:
      “The combined work, sometimes referred to collectively as the Mahavamsa, provides a continuous historical record of over two millennia, and is considered one of the world’s longest unbroken historical accounts.[3] It is one of the few documents containing material relating to the Nāga and Yakkha peoples, indigenous inhabitants of Lanka prior to the legendary arrival of Prince Vijaya from Singha Pura of Kalinga.

      As it often refers to the royal dynasties of India, the Mahavamsa is also valuable for historians who wish to date and relate contemporary royal dynasties in the Indian subcontinent. It is very important in dating the consecration of the Maurya Emperor Ashoka, which is related to the synchronicity with the Seleucid Empire and Alexander the Great.

      Indian excavations in Sanchi and other locations, confirm the Mahavamsa account of the empire of Ashoka. The accounts given in the Mahavamsa are also amply supported by the numerous stone inscriptions, mostly in Sinhala, found in Sri Lanka.[4] K. Indrapala [5] has also upheld the historical value of the Mahavamsa. If not for the Mahavamsa, the story behind the large stupas in Anuradhapura, Sri Lanka, such as Ruwanwelisaya, Jetavanaramaya, Abhayagiri vihāra and other works of ancient engineering would never have been known.

      Indian excavations in Sanchi and other locations, confirm the Mahavamsa account of the empire of Ashoka. The accounts given in the Mahavamsa are also amply supported by the numerous stone inscriptions, mostly in Sinhala, found in Sri Lanka.[4] K. Indrapala [5] has also upheld the historical value of the Mahavamsa. If not for the Mahavamsa, the story behind the large stupas in Anuradhapura, Sri Lanka, such as Ruwanwelisaya, Jetavanaramaya, Abhayagiri vihāra and other works of ancient engineering would never have been known.

      “Besides being an important historical source, the Mahavamsa is the most important epic poem in the Pali language. Its stories of battles and invasions, court intrigue, great constructions of stupas and water reservoirs, written in elegant verse suitable for memorization, caught the imagination of the Buddhist world of the time. Unlike many texts written in antiquity, it also discusses various aspects of the lives of ordinary people, how they joined the King’s army or farmed. Thus the Mahavamsa was taken along the Silk Road to many Buddhist lands.[6] Parts of it were translated, retold, and absorbed into other languages. An extended version of the Mahavamsa, which gives many more details, has also been found in Cambodia.[7] The Mahavamsa gave rise to many other Pali chronicles, making Sri Lanka of that period probably the world’s leading center in Pali literature.”

      As for Nainativu, I tend to agree with Rajasingham Narendran that the old Tamil name was Naakatheepam, while the name Nainativu has been mainly used by the less educated fisher folk, and came into being in later times, after Sankili. The earliest inhabitants (Nagas) worshiped the Naga (snake) or probably at least had the snake (cobra) as their totem. So they were neither Sinhalese, nor Tamils.

      So I think instead of bashing Mahavamsa as a part of Tamil-Eelamist sentiment, let us face the facts – namely, that the Mahavamsa is a very detailed history where many of the dates of kings and queens, and main events, characters, names of ports and cities, have been confirmed by independent evidence, while the mythical parts are also clear.

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        Manoharan

        “while the name Nainativu has been mainly used by the less educated fisher folk,”

        What do you exactly mean by “less educated fisher folk”

        The fisher folks are much wiser than the educated crooks.

        Learn to respect people who actually work harder to earn their living.

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      Yes tamils never lived here..so [Edited out]

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        Monarchs confers Buddhism as the crown doctrine status
        Monarchs constructs scores of stupas for veneration
        Saiva rituals absorbed into as of rituals of Buddhism for attraction
        Buddhism adopted native stays adamant of preoccupied of Damala

        Buddhist Monks insists on Pali be dialect preach
        Fearing Saivism would over whole the Buddhism in Tamil
        Sought and searched for dialect to isolate Tamil and Buddhism
        Still Saiva rituals infiltrated the Buddhism in Dharma Deepa, in the

        Eagerness of sustainment born of fear, suspicion and jealous
        Emancipates the contradiction of Gautama Buddha’s preaching
        Fear, suspicion and jealous a dominant trait still survive – a triplet trait
        Zealous search for uniqueness borne out of the onerous triplet trait
        Welcomes more and more South Indian Buddhist into the island
        Indian Hindu revival erupts, Buddhists seeks refuge in serine Serendib
        Intermingles intimately with migrant Mongolian +Bengali tribes of Madras
        Overzealous seek for rareness, give birth to, but of ostentatious by trait

        All born out of rage on Saivist’s search for wealth and knowledge by Tamil
        Monarchs demolish temples to build stupas, crowns put the two faiths on war
        Thutta Kaimunu war with Ellalan to only to spread Buddhism against Saivism
        The Saiva rage tradition propagated generation to generation, thus of Tamil
        Zealous seek for individuality give birth to, Sihala dialect but of gradually
        Graduating slowly off dialects Tamil. Pali, Sanskrit and of Bengali Mongolian
        Intimate intermingle Continues with South Indian Buddhist, in colonial period
        Sought as a means for uniqueness but with ostentatious trait for dominance,

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        Reverent Mahinda’s long wait acquiring acquaintance made the difference
        Tamil professes and propagate Buddhism in the island and South India
        Buddhism adored native holds preoccupied on Damala due to
        Tamil attachment of Saivism, and being a dialect of trade and knowledge
        Suspicious of Saiva natives’ social elevation with wealth and knowledge
        A Super trait of Dialect Void Group still intact, sought for salvation
        Embraced Buddhism with Euphoric Ecstasy, but high hurdles intact
        Saiva rituals and influence keeps abate of Buddhism Spreading

        Monarchs confers Buddhism as the crown doctrine status
        Monarchs constructs scores of stupas for veneration
        Saiva rituals absorbed into as of rituals of Buddhism for attraction
        Buddhism adopted native stays adamant of preoccupied of Damala

        Buddhist Monks insists on Pali be dialect preach
        Fearing Saivism would over whole the Buddhism in Tamil
        Sought and searched for dialect to isolate Tamil and Buddhism
        Still Saiva rituals infiltrated the Buddhism in Dharma Deepa, in the

        Eagerness of sustainment born of fear, suspicion and jealous
        Emancipates the contradiction of Gautama Buddha’s preaching
        Fear, suspicion and jealous a dominant trait still survive – a triplet trait
        Zealous search for uniqueness borne out of the onerous triplet trait
        Welcomes more and more South Indian Buddhist into the island
        Indian Hindu revival erupts, Buddhists seeks refuge in serine Serendib
        Intermingles intimately with migrant Mongolian +Bengali tribes of Madras
        Overzealous seek for rareness, give birth to, but of ostentatious by trait

        All born out of rage on Saivist’s search for wealth and knowledge by Tamil
        Monarchs demolish temples to build stupas, crowns put the two faiths on war
        Thutta Kaimunu war with Ellalan to only to spread Buddhism against Saivism
        The Saiva rage tradition propagated generation to generation, thus of Tamil
        Zealous seek for individuality give birth to, Sihala dialect but of gradually
        Graduating slowly off dialects Tamil. Pali, Sanskrit and of Bengali Mongolian
        Intimate intermingle Continues with South Indian Buddhist, in colonial period
        Sought as a means for uniqueness but with ostentatious trait for dominance,

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        Migrant Mongolian +Bengali tribes of Madras are known as “Tamilities”

        Alienated initially to avoid confrontation in consuming the nature
        Alienation parts them permanently for lack dialect in seek of dominance
        They stand divided still thru primitive thought of rulers
        Lankan DNA divulges the details both have south Indian traits,
        High for Sinhala majority and low for native Tamil, and Native Veddha compare reveals
        High for Sinhala majority and low for native Tamil, nothing for recent migrants
        Sampling excluded Tamil native Veddha the sampling way of Sri Lankan Science

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        sachooooo the stupid II

        “Yes tamils never lived here..so [Edited out]”

        So its time you went back to your ancestral motherland in South India?

        How soon can you leave?

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      Cholan,

      Please do not blame the Mahavamsa.

      Mahavamsa is NOT a Sinhala history book. It does not say anything about a Sinhala country or a Sinhala kingdom or a Sinhala king or a Sinhala civilization but it talks a lot about Tamils, Tamil kings and Tamil kingdom.

      As per the pre-historic and early historic inscriptions in Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka, the old Tamil names did not end with a ‘n’ or a ‘m’ or an ‘i’, but were very similar to those Prakrit/Pali (presently Sinhala) names ending with ‘a’. That is why we have Elara and not Elaran, we have Sena & Guttika and not Senan & Guttikan.

      It was only in the last few centuries that the language, the shape of the characters, the names etc. have evolved into the present form (current Tamil). This might have happened after the Tamils developing what it is commonly called as the ‘pulli (dot) system’ which is peculiar to Tamils in particular among the Indian lanaguages and due to this dot system the words/names ending with ‘a’ started ending with ‘n’ and ‘m’.

      That is why, if the Mahavamsa did not mention about the Tamil Kings of Anuradhapura (Sena, Guttika, Elara, Pulahatha, Bahiya, Panayamara, Parinda, Dathiya, and so on) and if our historians were to depend only on the inscriptions, we would not have known that these Kings were Tamils and the Sinhalese would have claimed them as Sinhala kings. Here, we have to give some credit to Mahavamsa, but at the same time, there would have been many native Tamil Buddhist Kings out of the many rulers whose ethnic identities the chronicles may not have mentioned at all and therefore we will never know.

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        What I am trying to say above is, the early (Old) Tamil names looked and sounded very similar to the present day Sinhala names. If we look at the Brahmi stone inscriptions for the names of the Tamil Kings (in Sri Lanka & Tamil Nadu), today nobody will identify them as Tamils. If we had seen the names Sena, Guttika, Elara, Pulahatha, Bahiya, Panayamara, Parinda, Dathiya and so on in stone inscriptions, nobody would have identified them as names of Tamil Kings of Anuradhapura. This is the reason why, the pali chronicle Mahavamsa should be appreciated. If not for the Mahavamsa, the Sinhalese will say the Tamils came to Sri Lanka only during the Dutch period.

        Similarly, in Tamil Nadu, the names of the old kings were referred to as Kulothunga Chola, Vikrma Chola, Aditya Chola, Rajendra Deva Pandya, Kula Sekara Pandya, Chandra Sekara Pandya, Vira Wickrama Pandya, Parakrama Pandya, Sundara Pandya, and so on. Today, you hardly find Tamils with such names but you may find some Sinhalese with these names.

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    We Thamizh history is always a good source of entertainment – you just can’t find such quality fiction these days :D

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      Siva Sankaran Sarma

      “History is always a good source of entertainment – you just can’t find such quality fiction these days :D”

      You must be talking about how the Sinhala race originated – a lion mating a human??? :D

      Or is about how Buddha came flying not once but thrice to SL but even his closest disciple Ananda (who was always with him)did not know about it??? :D

      I can keep on listing…

      If you need more quality fiction you can entertain yourself, just take a copy of your own history book, it is absolutely entertaining with lots and lots of quality fiction.

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        If I run out of quality fiction in the form of We Thamizh history, which is not very likely, I can always entertain myself by engaging in high caste pure We Thamizh traditions – such as hanging on meat hooks, putting lemons on kebab sticks and skewering unmentionables, pouring milk over hard, black lingams, and rolling around in mud like a pig in a sty. This will have the added benefit of pleasing the all powerful We Thamizh beast headed gods too :D

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          Siva Sankaran Sarma

          ROFLMAO! :D :D :D

          I know most of you people a totally ignorant. All what you have mentioned above is NOT We Thamizh traditions but Hindu traditions that is practised all over India. Even Buddha’s parents Suddhodana and Mayadevi were practising all those Hindu rituals before Siddhartha became a Buddha.
          Btw, all We Thamizh are not Hindus and as a non-Hindu even I sometimes find it entertaining including worshipping Bo-trees when I piss on them. However, our argument is not about religious rituals but history.

          Your own so called history book is the very best entertaining stuff we ever had and still have in SL.

          It even converts Buddha into a Terrorist, Buddha struck terror into the hearts of the Yakkas. Where else can you find such high quality fiction?

          “To this great gathering of the Yakkas went the Blessed One and there in the midst of that assembly, hovering in the air over their heads, at the place of the future Mahiyangana Thupa, He struck terror to their hearts, by rain, storm, darkness and so forth. The Yakkas, overwhelmed by fear, besought the fearless Vanquisher to release them from fear. Then, when He had destroyed their terror,… the Master preached them the doctrine.” (Geiger’s translation pages 3 and 4)
          Poor Buddha, the so called Sinhala history has made him a Terrorist… LOL!

          Just take a copy of your so called Sinhala history book and start reading, there are umpteen number of such fun, absolutely entertaining, very high quality fiction. I can list them here but then let me leave it to you to enjoy the whole book.

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            Cool story bro – as long as you keep the entertainment rolling in I can save joining the rest of We Thamizh in one of our mass ‘put metal kebab skewers through the nether regions and parade through the streets howling like monkeys or hang on meat hooks like slabs of beef to please some kind of beast-gods’ ceremonies for another day :D

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    Why not this Professor help the present good Governance in bringing the difficult conciliation a success. Why is he trying to divide the communities. This kind of people have to be taken to task by the good Government if they want to progress in their mission. What a task the Government has and what a thing this person is talking about? Won’t the Government take these people to task and get rid of racism from the Country for good?

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    Dear Mr.Chandre Dharmawardana,

    Nagadeepa is not a Sinhala word. It is our Indian/Sanskrit/Tamil corrupted term.

    Find out suitable Sinahla word without Sanskrit, Tamil, if you can.

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    Chandre,

    1. How did Kadirgamam become Kataragama?

    2. How did Gomin Dias become Gomin Dayasri?

    3. How did Kandiah Balendran become Ken Balendra?

    4. How did George Lionel Peiris become Gamini Lakshman Peiris?

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    Dear Mr.Prof. Chandre Dharmawardana

    Can you pl ask your Sinhala linguists to remove all Tamil and Sanskrit Terms from the Sinhala dictionary including Tatsama, tadbhava words {like eeyama, eeyam (eeyam in Tamil), seesa (Sanskrit), murunga}.

    Then we may further discuss about pure Sinhalism.

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    Dear Mr.

    do you know even the following Sinhala words are also corruption of Tamil.

    Sinhala කන්ද (kanda) hill, from குன்றம் kuṉṟam/kuṇḍam. equivalent Telugu word is కొండ (konda)

    కొండ (konḍa) [Telugu.] A hill, hillock, mountain, rock.

    Sinhala ඔය oya from Tamil ஒலியல் oliyal

    ஒலியல் oliyal (Tamil) n. River; நதி.

    if you claim these corrupted words are pure Sinhalese words, pl prove the etymology of them.

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    Chandra Dharmawardanan is a pure Tamil name and without the ‘N’ it becomes Sinkalam, and that is the difference between the S’s & T’s in SL.
    It is all mind & matter, that is all.

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      Uthungan

      “Chandra Dharmawardanan is a pure Tamil name and without the ‘N’ it becomes Sinkalam, and that is the difference between the S’s & T’s in SL.”

      Chandra (shining) and Dharma (right way of living, duties, etc) are words from Sanskrit but have been appropriated by Sinhalese and Tamils.

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    What is happening today for NAINAATHEEVU has happened to many many Tamil villages in this cursed Sri Lanka long long ago…this is how Sinhala villages names sound like Tamil

    If some buddhist Ayotullahs found a buddhist temple ruins then and today it doesn’t means it was the Sinhala Buddhists lived there …and built these

    There were Tamil Buddhists once in todays South India and cursed Sri Lanka once probably more in numbers than Sinhala buddhists then

    Mahavamsa comic book should be thrown to dust bin …and real archeological survey must be made using modern equipment and technics then only it is possible to expose the lies in the fabricated history of SL

    Look what happened to the Ramakrishna hall and other buildings around Kataragama temple all built by Tamils …today occupied by Buddhists Ayotullahs

    Cheers

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    In fact Tamil name “Chandiran Tharmawarthanan” evolved to “Chandre Dharmawardana”.

    Dr is willing to accept it or not he is a Sinhala language speaking Tamil from “n”th generation.

    The question is can someone scientifically determine “n”?

    Don’t worry Dr, we’ll never ever ask you to change your name to Chandiran Tharmawarthanan or we don’t care what your mother tongue is or your religious believes are.

    But what we can expect from you is to learn to develop some tolerance to others who don’t speak your language.

    You have the guts to ask us to change “Killinochchi” to “Giranikke”.

    If you want to call “Killinochchi” to “Giranikke” then be our gusts. But don’t ever expect us to use Giranikke just because of you said so!

    This is the exact mentality of most of you from southern Sri Lanka regardless of your social or economic status.

    When I checked last time Earth is not flat!

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      Alias

      Chandra (shining) and Dharma (right way of living, duties, etc) are words from Sanskrit but have been appropriated by Sinhalese and Tamils.

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    It is amazing that all these people have gone off on their Eelamist assertion of the Tamil ownership of the North and its names. The Nainativu island is ALREADY NAMED Nainativu. The author says, let both names exist.

    They are not satisfied with it, and the Tamil extremists want to erase any references to Nagadeepa!
    They are politically naive, greedy and try to take everything, and will get nothing in the end.
    Sinhalese are lazy and not bothered, otherwise they should protest these incursions instead of wasting time playing cricket.

    We Muslims know how the Eelamist have spun a web of lies and tries to even claim the Eastern province as part of their “homeland”.

    Captain Robert Percival in his book “An account of the Island of Ceylon” (1805) said
    “The inhabitants of Jaffna consists of a collection of various races. The greatest number of Malabars are of Moorish extraction. … There is also a race of malbars found here somewhat differing in their appearance from those of the continent….

    The majority of the Tamils there were not even called tamils, but Malabars, and you see that said even in Emerson Tennent’s writings. The Malabar were people brought to work in the Tobacco fields, and it is they who are now being used by the Rich Colombo Tamils as cannon fodder for Eelamism.

    So you see that a little over 200 years ago, most of the population of Jaffna peninsula were Tamil speaking Moors. THEY GAVE THE NAME nainativu, while the tamils called it Nakatheepam.
    Our Muslim leaders have not been able to even re-settle the people who were ejected by the Tigers in 1990. This injustice should be corrected – why doesn’t the TNA organize a hartal for that? Is everything they do based on communalism?
    The TNA leaders who supported the LTTE should be brought to book.

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    Didn’t get a chance to read this until now..

    Dharme is spot on the Vellala Party, TNA..

    Just imagine what Vellala Wiggie’s presentations to Batalanda’s “White Court” will contain , besides the demands for imprisonment of the brave soldiers.

    We might as well start calling Colombothurai now to go along with Dehiwalai?.

    Wonder what they will call my turf Wellala gardens?..

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      KASmaalam K.A Sumanasekera

      Interesting

      How about Pathar Moolai (Battaramulla)?

      Karuvaath Thottam for Cinnamon Gardens

      Humbug Thottam for Hambantota

      Simply KASmaalam for K.A Sumanasekeram?

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        Request you to call him also as Kusu-malam.

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    “Nainathivu” (Nayinaartheevu) is the only name (used in all the three languages of Sri Lanka) in all official documents including the government gazette notifications and other such government documents, until a gazette notification published recently substituting “Nagatheepam” as the name for the island in Tamil, and Nagadeepa, in Sinhala. (In English, I am informed no change was made, and Nainativu was used). The name Nainativu, has been the only name used to call this island, for the last several centuries, at least for over a thousand years, I would say.

    On the other hand, according to the Gold Plate Inscription of King Vasaba (AD:66-111) the entire Jaffna peninsula was known to the Sinhalese as Nakadiva (Nagadeepa). The Jaffna peninsula was known to the Tamils, at about this period as “Naaka Naadu”. This is very clear from the Tamil Buddhist epic of “Manimekalai” belonging to circa third century A.D.

    Nainar or Nayinaar is the name of the deity of the Nagas, the Serpent God. There are many other temples too, of course now referred to as “Hindu temples”, which have been taken over forcibly from Naga worshippers, who were non-Hindu, but Tamils. Nayinaar Kovil, is the name of an ancient temple-town in the Ramanathapuram District of Tamil Nadu. Although the name of the town still remains the same, the ancient temple of the Serpent God, had been converted into a Naganaatha Swami Kovil, and poojas are conducted by the brahmin priests there. There are other temples such as the ones at Nagar Kovil, Naga Pattinam etc. which were also places of worship of the pre-brahmin local Tamil-Nagas.

    Sinhalese Buddhists started to come to Nayinaartheevu or Nainativu on pilgrimage, since 1944 when a Buddhist temple was established on this island. They began to call this island “Nagathivayina” from the “Nampoththa” days, 15th century AD, when Jaffna Kingdom was briefly under Sinhala occupation. But, the official name used, to call this island was/is Nayinaartheevu or Nainativu for all times from time immemorial.

    The recent resolution of the NPC is not asking for a name change. The official name remains Nainativu to date. No one has changed this. It is for the correction of the recent gazette notification, where the name was mentioned as Nagatheepam, in Tamil, and Nagadeepa, in Sinhala, without consulting the NPC and MPs from the district.

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      Why consult Tamil parmentarians or Northern Provincial Councillors? What do they more than dramatising and sloganeering. Appoint a committee of scholars – historians, anthropologists and linguists – to research and make tecommendations. Let us have an informed discussion thereafter,

      Dr.RN

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        in his masters voice- set up a committee and kill the idea.

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        It is necessary to consult as they are elected representatives of Tamils.

        No need to take advice from traitors.

        “Appoint a committee of scholars – historians, anthropologists and linguists – to research and make tecommendations. Let us have an informed discussion thereafter, “

        your “beloved” Government will appoint sinhala scholars – sinhala historians, sinhala anthropologists and sinhala linguists.

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