Prof. S. Ratnajeevan H. Hoole
Connectivity
Today (15 Aug.) is India’s Independence Day and will be celebrated by India’s Jaffna Consulate – an event that Jaffna looks forward to as one of its important festivals with good food and Indian artistes coming for our enjoyment and to celebrate all we share.
Sri Lanka and Sri Lankan culture are India’s children. We are inseparably connected. We, especially Tamils, go to India for vacations, saris, medical treatment, Hindus to temples for blessings like our Prime Minister and President, education, female boarding-schools, movies, etc.. In the 1960s, it was common for MG Ramachandran fans to cross the Palk Straits illegally to watch the premieres of his movies and be the envy of lla.
Broken Connectivity
It is unfortunate that the connectivity is strained as a result of our two major communities having their relations strained by racism. India was forced to intervene because our war was threatening India’s security with gun fights between Tamil factions in Chennai. The Thirteenth Amendment, while not fully satisfying Tamils, was a via media that provided structure for Sinhalese and Tamils to live together. Unfortunately, there are communalists on both sides of the ethnic division who argue that the amendment is useless and use the unlawfully postponed provincial council elections to argue that provincial councils should be eliminated, stripping Tamils of the few powers they have over their lives through the partially implemented agreement. Few Tamils realize that if not for India repeatedly reminding our government of its obligation to implement fully the Indo-Lanka agreement, they would be far worse off.
Independence Day 2018 at “India House, Jaffna”
In these circumstances, India joining the rest of the International Community to help end the LTTE as stated by Tamil Leader and Elder Statesman R. Sampanthan without any acrimony towards India, must give Tamils pause to ask why India did that.
When the LTTE assassinated Rajiv Gandhi on Indian soil, began drug-dealing, and smuggling uzi-machine guns from Israel to drug cartels in South and Central America it signaled that it had grown too big for its boots and threatened peace globally. That is why the IC had to act as it did in 2005-9. Who is the thinking Tamil who can argue that after that dastardly murder and threat to law and order, India had to help the LTTE achieve Tamil Eelam? This is why Mr. Sampanthan argues that having snuffed out the LTTE stopped the Sri Lankan army from wiping out all signs of Tamils in Sri Lanka, as is happening even now through settlements. India, together with the IC, has an inexorable obligation to ensure a just order for Tamils.
Thinking-Sinhalese too realize that their own well-being and advancement depend on reaching a modus vivendi with minorities. However, there are obstacles to progress from inveterately entrenched communal forces. This is why liberal-minded Sinhalese are scared to put forward the required solutions. Research shows that many Sinhalese are willing to devolve power to Tamil areas but fear, for electoral reasons, being public about it. Only India has the wherewithal to assist and strengthen those Sinhalese who support a rights-based society.
Connectivity through Palaly Airport
I assess that India is mindful of the obligations that devolved upon it with the Thirteenth Amendment and helping Sri Lanka triumph over the LTTE. It is overdue for the IC to blunt the prevailing triumphalism here and build peace with rights for all. As India’s Consul in Jaffna, Shri S. Balachandran sees it, enhanced connectivity is the need of the hour:
“Strong people-to-people ties are key to strong bilateral relations. In this regard, we consider connectivity as an important factor to further strengthen people to people ties. Sri Lankan Government is keen to start short haul flights from Palaly to airports in South India at the earliest. We are working with GoSL so that we can transform this dream into reality soon.”
I believe that Prime Minister Wickremesinghe shares this vision as I heard him at Jaffna University’s Engineering Faculty promising the airport soon; but it has not happened.
Inexcusable Delay and Excuses
The delay entails huge losses to our economy given the advantages of an international airport at Palaly. First, the increased trade. Then the millions of tourists to India will see Sri Lanka as contiguous and hop over. Once in Jaffna, it would be natural to visit Polonnaruwa, Anuradhapura, Sigiriya, and the beautiful beaches of the East.
Add to that the convenience of our travelers to India. The Jaffna Consulate entertains visa applications only from the 5 districts of the North. In 2016, some 25,000 travelers were given visas. By 2018, the number had risen to 30,000. Imagine the waste in travelling from Jaffna to Colombo Airport and then flying back over Jaffna to India. The diversion of so many passengers from Colombo, some think is bad, but it could save funds presently expended on more runways and terminals at over-crowded Katunayake.
In 2015, when the air-force held 7800 acres of land, many Tamils too, including it is said the Chief Minister, objected to the airport thinking all that land would be swallowed up. Some southerners objected to the losses to Colombo tour operators if tourists started their journeys from Jaffna. But is it fair to keep the North as a backwater and prevent its development?
Excuses have been trotted out ignoring the advantages to Sri Lanka’s economy. The 1.6 km runway with only 1 km in good condition is not good enough argued our airports authority. India promptly had a team come and OK the airport and generously offered to repair the 600 m of bad runway. India also offered to develop the airport with customs and immigration facilities. But Sri Lanka continued to balk.
A US medical team, Operation Pacific Angel, in Aug. 2016 brought equipment in a huge plane (“as tall as a Palmyra tree”). That convinced Tamils that the aviation authorities’ excuses were just that – excuses. By then the land had been released by the air force and only 3400 acres remained, abating Tamil suspicions that the airport was an excuse to keep the land.
India’s High Commissioner HE Taranjit Singh Sandhu visiting on 20 July, 2018 pressed for an agreement and promised that India was ready to fly 4 months later on Deepavali Day, 2018. Sri Lanka argued that they had only 150-seat planes and not the 70-seaters required. India countered to arrange for these planes on lease with 2 flights each day for India and Sri Lanka, so that Sri Lanka would earn the lease payments. No deal!
A Lot More to the Reluctance
Clearly Sri Lanka is not voicing its real objections. This is seen in PM Wickremesinghe – who wants the airport – having agreed to it as part of the arrangement under which the TNA has been supporting the government and is insisting that the government keep its side of the bargain. Wickremesinghe as a free market advocate also knows what good the expanded airport can do for Sri Lanka. Yet, when he speaks of the advantages of Palaly airport he speaks only of flights to Hyderabad and Bangalore and rarely of flights to Chennai or Trichy.
The real objection seems the Sinhalese fear of being overwhelmed by “hordes of Tamils” who would come to work here and take away jobs – a replay of the 1930s when Tamils from Tamil Nadu came as labourers. That xenophobia brought out the worst in the Sinhalese, prompting D.S. Senanayake to rant on New Year’s day, 1939: “We are one blood and one nation. We are a chosen people. The Buddha said that his religion would last 5500 years. That means that we, as the custodians of that religion, shall last as long.”
Not to be outdone, SWRD Banadaranaike joined the refrain, “I am prepared to sacrifice my life for the sake of my community, the Sinhalese. If anybody were to try to hinder our progress, I am determined to see that he is taught a lesson he will never forget.“
For that, an admiring Mrs. Srimathie Abeygunawardena “likened Mr. Bandaranaike to Hitler and appealed to the Sinhalese community to give him every possible assistance to reach the goal of freedom.” (Above three quotations from Rajan Hoole’s Arrogance of Power.)
Fighting Xenophobia: The New Tamil Nadu
Xenophobia has destroyed Sri Lanka. Fighting it takes courage, not pandering to it by hiding facts from the public. Knowledge is the best weapon.
Ignorance fosters racism. It feeds our egos to think Tamils are backward and they will, given the airport, come to us in droves to take over Sri Lanka. It comforts us to think that we are at the mountain-top and that Tamil hordes from Tamil Nadu will come to steal our jobs.
But what is the new reality? Sri Lankan Tamils might have been successfully reduced to the rubbish heap, but not the Tamils of Tamil Nadu as even Sri Lankan Tamils, in their own arrogance, fail to see the advances made by their Indian brethren.
In reality, Tamil Nadu is one of the most vibrant Indian states since the liberalization of 1991. With 6% of the population, it is 9.6% of India’s economy with a GDP of 250 billion US$ – compared to Sri Lanka’s 87 billion US$.
40% of the relevant age cohort is in university. It is far superior in having doctors, with every district having specialty hospitals. It receives the highest number of tourists among Indian states, and is the most urbanized Indian state. It has an installed power capacity of 23,000 MW (against Sri Lanka’s 4000 MW) of which 45% is renewable!
TN’s once weak indices, literacy, and life-expectancy, are now comparable to Sri Lanka’s. Population growth is zero. There is no chance that Tamils will come here for jobs. Instead, wheat-eating North Indians go there for menial jobs. The daily wage-rate there is SLRs. 2500, compared to our SLRs 1500. It will be easier for our rice-eaters to get job considering TN’s lower cost of living and cultural fit.
The Good News
The hot news that I received, with pictures, on the 13th from Uthayan’s N. Logathayalan is that the PM and Mangala Samaraweera have put their foot down and the building of the airport is progressing into an international airport over the last few days. India is finalizing a 300 million LKRs Palaly aid-package. Despite the talk of a 1.6 km runway, a 3.8 km runway is being built to provide an international airport. MPs Sumanthiran and Mavai Senathirajah are dedicated to ensuring the PM’s honouring their agreement.
In keeping with the tradition of the name “Bandaranaike International Airport,” the request has been made to name this “Thanthai Chelva International Airport.” The PM will be in Jaffna on the 16th instant to examine progress.
Thanks to India, Sri Lanka is being pulled into the Comity of Civilized Nations.
Sinhala_Man / August 15, 2019
Wow! Now, this is what I call an educative article. There’s so much that India is willing to do for Sri Lanka!
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That is the problem; some racist from “our part of the country” will say that India is willing to do all that only for the Northern Province. And yet we say that we are one country, and “What is the problem that Tamils have?”
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We must surely recognise that there “always” were two languages in Sri Lanka – no point going back anything more than about four generations, but we can comfortably go back a thousand years with that particular proposition. You must maintain cultural links with TN.
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Many thanks, Professor Hoole for giving us so much information about how Tamil Nadu is forging ahead, and for allaying our fears about the return of the “Kallathonis”. Willy-nilly, these atavistic fears lie buried in all of us Sinhalese. Population growth being zero is great news! But I find it difficult to believe – could you please substantiate.
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Only two things trouble me about this article. In the 1960s you would have been a naughty little boy. Did you also cross the Palk Strait without Passport or Visa to see MGR films? If so you would be a man who has broken the law, and thus rendered unsuitable to organise our Presidential Elections. Didn’t you, by the way, tell us that MGR was born in some place like Nawalapitiya? I checked out that story and found it true.
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My second fear is that Kumar R. will toss sleeplessly on his bed tonight looking for some criticism to make of this article. If he can find nothing, then he will say something nasty about me!
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Thanks, Professor Hoole for a lovely article.
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SB / August 15, 2019
A good article by an impartial writer. Unfortunately the Tamil racists below do not like it. But who cares?
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Old codger / August 15, 2019
“In reality, Tamil Nadu is one of the most vibrant Indian states since the liberalization of 1991. With 6% of the population, it is 9.6% of India’s economy with a GDP of 250 billion US$ – compared to Sri Lanka’s 87 billion “
Thanks to Dr. Hoole for letting out one of the best kept secrets in the local media. The Divaina should print this on its front page to make up for the Shafie fiasco.
The airport is OK, but a bridge from Talaimannar would be really great. Imagine being able to avail the services of Indian specialists instead of GMOA extortionists, or driving over for a real mutton biriyani?
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Native Vedda / August 15, 2019
Old codger
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You don’t understand.
Tamils will take the first opportunity to walk across the bridge arrive here swarming the island looking for greener pastures, good fortunes, good schools, good universities, …. benefits, taking all our good jobs, ….. and they can be an imminent danger to OUR NATIONAL SECURITY.
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My worry is completely different to that of the Sinhala/Buddhists’.
Those immigrants who would over a period of time convert themselves into Sinhala/Buddhist fascism, …like now create more problem to the law abiding people of this island.
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If you are willing to give us some guarantee that they too will abide by law and adjust themselves to peaceful living then I have no problem.
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By the way do you know why Seeman, Viko, … Chidambaram are opposing the removal of Article 370?
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JD / August 15, 2019
Tamilnadu is highly developed State and it is every thing for India. but around Chennai Railway station has no Toilets to be found. So, you know the result. It is does not matter even if it is the Railway Platform.
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Rajash / August 16, 2019
JD – so you went to Tamil Nadu and stayed in a cheap hotel with no toilets ?
…and you thought you can go to toilet in the Railway Station. ?
In Tamil Nadu they go to the toilet in their house not in the railway station.
go to the toilet before you travel.
is there toilets around Fort Railway station or is there decent public toilets anywhere in Sri Lanka?
obviously you don’t live in a house with toilet facilities…and do your shit all over CT
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Yusuf / August 16, 2019
JD/Jimmy,
If you lose your cushy job at Toronto Toilets, Chennai has a place for you. I hear Tamil sh.t smells better than white s..t.
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SJ / August 16, 2019
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This is much unlike you.
You seem to be in dreamland.
The reality of India, especially Hindutva India, is something else.
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Chandra / August 16, 2019
SJ:
Why is having a bridge link so bad?
Do you think in Hindutva India doctors will become less skilled and Modi will ban mutton biriyani ?
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Native Vedda / August 16, 2019
Chandra
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For SJ anything India is bad/unacceptable however on the other hand everything China is welcome including its direct rule over this island or by its proxy a Pol Pot equivalent.
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SJ / August 16, 2019
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My comment was about the reality that India under BJP is.
The bridge idea is dead duck, mooted by Ranil, under whose prompting i do not know.
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Old codger / August 16, 2019
SJ,
I don’t think it is such a bad idea to link up with a country which might have fewer toilets but can still send probes to Mars. I would recommend China , but India is next door.
Yes, the poor in India are poorer than the poor here, but then rich and middle class are also richer than the ones here. India is not in debt upto it’s neck either.
Given the performance of our current elites over 70 years, don’t you think we could learn something?
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Old codger / August 16, 2019
SJ,
I am not a supportive of Modi or Hindutva. Neither is popular in South India . South Indian development has nothing to do with Modi.
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Native Vedda / August 16, 2019
Old codger
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Can you get the South Indian states to develop as fast as they can so that I can get rid of both Sinhala/Tamil Kallathonie descendants. In fact both will swim across the Palk Strait as fast as they can when they see lot of opportunities in those states. I hear a few Sri Lankan companies have already invested in expanding markets in South India.
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When these little islanders see opportunities of making money in India they wouldn’t mind relocating to South India even if the houses do not have toilets or taking up toilet cleaning jobs of which they decry.
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Old codger / August 16, 2019
Native,
Lots of islanders are having the scales fall from their eyes nowadays. Like the ones who believe the Hyundai cars being shipped from Hambantota come from Korea.
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SJ / August 16, 2019
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My fears are not about anyone supporting Hindutva.
The reality of Hindutva is unknown to many of us. The years 2014 to 2019 saw a strong growth in anti-Muslim lynchings, gender based violence and saffronization of institutions. Briefly, Hindutva is anti-secular, anti-science and parochial.
India usually is meddlesome, but under Modi things will get worse.
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The South also rejected Modi.
But what does the development of the South mean for this country?
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The lessons that we should have learned are from our experience: open economy, privatization, wrecking of the national economy and selling labour to foreign investors who bring no development to the country.
The country has lost badly from the Indo-Sri Lanka trade Agreement made under Chandrika K. Even today Indian producers put pressure on the government to curtail Sri Lankan exports like pepper.
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I am suspicious of free trade agreements with strong economies, irrespective of country.
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A people who do not learn from their own mistakes will not learn from anyone else, one way or the other.
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CR / August 17, 2019
SJ the broken record.
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Old codger / August 18, 2019
SJ,
The Indo-SL FTA is not as full of doom and gloom as people are told. There are companies that have done quite well, thank you. One is Damro, whose showrooms you can see in any major town. Munchee failed, yes. But it is foolish of them to blame “restrictions” that applied to Damro as well. If there actually are unfair restrictions, how is it that European cheese (Happy Cow) is cheaper in India than in SL?
Most Indian imports anyway are of things like motor vehicles and industrial goods. Those who complain of trade deficits are free to get Benz buses from Germany, are they not?
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niro / August 16, 2019
Old codger- why don’t you stick to being a vegetarian and exercise like your ancestors. And go to ayuvedic physician instead of gorging on animal flesh diet of the white man and getting fat and constipated. And thinking that a doctor at navaloka can give you a pill that magically cures you .
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Old codger / August 16, 2019
Miro,
I am currently vegetarian, for economic reasons only. I can only afford chicken occasionally. Definitely not beef @ 1000 or mutton @1800.
That’s why I want some cheap Indian biriyani.
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S. Thevaram / August 16, 2019
Cod: Here in Bridgetown, I can easily afford these, but am being being told off for eating too much of it. “Given your ethnicity,” the good doctor said, “you better be careful with food”. I think of you as lucky, but you want to build a bridge to get it on the cheap. What a world, huh!
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Old codger / August 17, 2019
S.T,
No, not every day, only when I get sick of eating TVP. I hear there are more palatable versions of TVP in your parts?
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Girlie / August 15, 2019
I agree. Thank you, Jeevan for a lovely article.
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Kumar R. / August 15, 2019
Dear Sinhala_Man,
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Your fear is indeed justified. Truth is painful and is of course feared by the guilty!
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Jeevan panders to the Indian counsel, perhaps to make-up for the previous fiasco that angered the Counsel. Jeevan is obviously looking for “I also played” recognition in the Indian project, now that all other initiatives to get leadership recognition in academic, religious, local community activities, etc have all petered out one after another, for no fault other than his own!
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And you pander the panderer! “Wow!!”
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If it is not pandering, let me ask you to point out what you consider is the “most educative” information or insight from this article?! I am confident all your praise is just empty, meaningless, rhetoric to prop-up a fading family friend – nothing more.
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Naughty and law-breaking are just two additions to your own previous list of esteemed celebrations such as “overgrown school boy”, “surprisingly lacking in logic” etc that you were kind enough to bestow on your pal Jeevan!
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God Bless You!
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Thiru / August 16, 2019
In other words, this prophet of this masters says that Sri Lanka is a client state of India, stop.
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Amarasiri / August 15, 2019
Prof. S. Ratnajeevan H. Hoole,
RE: Our Permanent Umbilical Connectivity To India
“Sri Lanka and Sri Lankan culture are India’s children. We are inseparably connected.”
Yes. Genetically connected as well, shown by the mt-DNA data.
Tamil and Sinhala derived from Indian root as well, unlike English.
However in the Land of Native Veddah Aethho the correct terminology to refer to the Sinhala, Tamils, their beliefs, is as Para-Sinhala, Para-Tamil, Para-Hinduism Para-Buddhism, Para-Muslims, Para-Portuguese Para-Christianity etc. to indicate the fact that they all are from outside, the Land of Native Veddah Aethho.
Mitochondrial DNA history of Sri Lankan ethnic people: Their relations within the island and with the Indian subcontinental populations
https://www.nature.com/articles/jhg2013112
MtDNA haplogroup analysis revealed that several West Eurasian haplogroups as well as Indian-specific mtDNA clades were found amongst the Sri Lankan populations. Through a comparison with the mtDNA HVS-1 and part of HVS-2 of Indian database, both Tamils and Sinhalese clusters were affiliated with Indian subcontinent populations than Vedda people who are believed to be the native population of the island of Sri Lanka.
Warning:
Brainwashed Para-Sinhala, Para-Tamil “academics” and others may not like these mt-DNA data facts, as it shatters their worldview, just like what happened to the Catholic Church with the Heliocentric model of the Solar System, and the fact that the Earth moves.
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D. P. / August 15, 2019
Amarasiri,
I don’t understand the significance of the point you are trying to make. The Haplo group difference between native Lankans (Vedda) and Sinhalese/Tamils b’cos all of them must have migrated to this island either from Indian subcontinent or from one of the islands in Indonesian Archipelago, south of Wollace line. Most anthropologists do not consider the latter connection perhaps b’cos of the remoteness but the legend of Nittawos suggests that a Homo variety similar to Homo Florensiensis, a short stature humans whose fossils found in the island of Flores, has found its way to SL If it is in fact true, then it is very likely that humans belongs to early waves out of Africa migrations might have reached SL via both routs possibly during the Ice Ages.
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If there is any Haplo Group difference between Veddas and non- Veddas, it should be the lack of Neanderthal & Homo Denisiavns genes in them b’cos that is the common denominator between Humans those who stayed in Africa and those who left somewhere around 60,000 yrs ago. Whatever the case may be, one thing is certain: There couldn’t have ever been a SL specific human variety! If Veddas don’t carry Neanderthal and/or Denisovan genes, then must belong to unmixed African population. But there one hitch: Their language sounds close relationship with Pali!
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You may be raising a valid anthropological point but as far the present is concerned these are only issues of heuristic value. Can the Native American claim their dominance now just b’cos they are the first migrants?
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Amarasiri / August 16, 2019
D. P.,
“I don’t understand the significance of the point you are trying to make.”
However, Eagle Eye understands it perfectly well. In addition, Prof. Raj Somadeva, of the Anthropology Dept. of University of Kelaniya, and all the Parra-Sinhala who want to claim that they are Native along with Native Veddah Aethho as to what wit means for their worldview, understand it perfectly well.
Para-Sinhala claim that the Tamils are Para-Tamils, Para-Demalu, when the Para-Sinhala themselves are Para, and in addition have similar genetics to the Tamils. The Europeans in the New World accept that they are not the ordinal natives.
Because the mtDNA reveals the truth, who the original natives were.
Apparently the study did not look for Neanderthal or Denisivan genes. However, the native Veddah Arthho is primarily Haplo Group N and its Subgroups, whereas the Para-Tamils and Para-Sinhala, are mostly Haplpo groupm M and its subgroups, like from their Para-Homeland, Bharat from another study as well.
Brainwashed Para-Sinhala, Para-Tamil “academics” and others may not like these mt-DNA data facts, as it shatters their worldview, just like what happened to the Catholic Church with the Heliocentric model of the Solar System, and the fact that the Earth moves.
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D. P. / August 16, 2019
Amarasiri,
I already explained my position on the hypothesis (I wouldn’t call it a theory) presented by Raj S. In any case, when I said I don’t understand the significance of of your argument, I meant to question the practicality of the debate beyond the educational value of how early human migration actually took place. As far I’m concerned, if the Vedda people can take over the political & business power of SL, then so be it; I’ve no quarrel with it whatsoever. May be they are the first migrant; may be not; and so what?
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Also, speaking of genetic evidence for their distance from Sinhalese & Tamils, the admixture of genes only shows the fact that Vedda people were isolated after the inter-breading; but, it doesn’t prove that they are the first migrants b’cos inter-breading could have occurred while they were still S India and the migrated SL nearly contemporary to each other during the ice ages.
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Science is my life and therefore I do understand the fact that we cannot change the current socio-political structure based on the knowledge on which race older than the other. As a matter of fact, I don’t have much respect for the classification by races b’cos it has no biological base whatsoever. Since all humans have equal brain power (on average), they all the same. The concept of races is nothing but a cultural issue developed into a pseudo science in the late 18 th century.
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Do you know whether Heliocentric model changed a even tiny bit of daily lives & beliefs of Vedda people? Do they really care who were the first to settle IN SL?
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Old codger / August 16, 2019
DP,
Even though the concept of race is dismissed nowadays, it cannot be denied that some people are better at some activities than others. For example black people, whether African or American, are better athletes . Jews too perform way out of proportion to their numbers.
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SJ / August 17, 2019
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The Jews had to live at the fringes of European society and took to careers that Christians would not normally choose.
Lack of security was a key factor. (Middle class Jaffna Tamils took to education in a big was because there were not many opportunities otherwise. their reliance on white collar jobs was later their tragedy. The islanders opted for trade like the ones from Matara.)
There is a lot more that one’s living conditions decide than ethnic identity.
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Old codger / August 18, 2019
SJ,
“There is a lot more that one’s living conditions decide than ethnic identity.”
Yes this is currently the politically correct thing.
But the underprivileged blacks are still better athletes than the rich whites. Even the Chinese have taken to adopting Brazilian footballers.
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / August 16, 2019
The Vedda language is close to Elu the semi Tamil Dravidian dialect of the island and not to Pali which is a Prakrit language with Central Asian roots. The Veda language , Elu and well as old Sinhalese or Hela are all very close to Tamil in their structure and pronunciation. Pali and Sanskrit are from the North Indian plains and only arrived in the island with the introduction of Buddhism. The Veda are definitely not from the North Indian plains and are very closely related to the aboriginal tribes of South India. They worship the Tamil god Lord Murugan and his Vedda consort Valli Amma , which it self is a Tamil word.
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SJ / August 17, 2019
So Valli after all was not a Tamil woman in the heart of the Kurinji! Great!
If Prakrits were local languages of the Indian subcontinent, which part of Central Asia did they come from may I know?
Which fairy told you that the Vedda language is ‘Elu’?
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / August 17, 2019
Do not answer to idiotic questions asked by an idiotic anti Tamil
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SJ / August 17, 2019
SSS
I agree that it is pretty much idiotic to take your comments seriously.
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Somapala Appuhamy / August 17, 2019
SSS & SJ,
From where did you learn that Elu was an ancient language? Who told you that Elu was a Dravidian language? Which Vedda told you that Elu was a Vedda language?
Please learn your basics. Elu is NOT an ancient language and it is NOT a spoken language either. Neither Veddas nor Tamils understood Elu. It appeared only after the 9th century AD, very much after Sinhala. Elu is a Sinhala poetic language used ONLY for poems. Sinhala originated from Prakrit and Pali and a little bit of Tamil and some words picked up from the aboriginals. Elu is a poetic language that originated from Sinhala, only after the 9th century AD. There was nothing called Elu before the 9th century AD. If you can find any kind of evidence to prove that Elu existed before Sinhala, please show us. You have to analyze the Elu texts Elu Sendas Lakuna, Elu Bodhi Vamsa, Elu Akaradiya, Elu Hathvanagalu Vansaya, Elu Umanda, Elu Daladavansa Kavya, Elu Silowa, Elu Silo Sathakaya, etc. to see if any Dravidian semi Tamil words are also found in any of these Elu texts. I am 100% sure, neither Veddas nor Tamils can read or understand any of these Elu texts. Even the ordinary Sinhalese cannot read or understand these Elu texts, only the Buddhist priests and some Sinhala language scholars can understand.
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Pandi Kutti / August 17, 2019
Did they let you out of the lunatic asylum? Please go and take your tablets., instead of hallucinating and posting garbage here.
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SJ / August 17, 2019
SA
Leave me out of your protests.
I did not say anything about Elu but question a daft claim.
I am aware that there is some mixing up of Elu and Hela.
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / August 17, 2019
Eluva means in Sinhalese goat/sheep and you are one. For your information the Sinhalese word for goat is derived from the Tamil word Eli used in Sangam literature for sheep from which the modern Tamil word for sheep Chem- eli is formed and for woolen blanket Kambilli ( meaning blanket made out of sheep skin, The Sinhalese still use this ancient Tamil work Eli for goat/sheep. Eluva. You are one. That is all I can say.
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / August 17, 2019
Now start bleating again like a good nanny goat.
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Somapala Appuhamy / August 17, 2019
Dumb Siva Sankaran Sharma aka Pandi Kutti aka Rohan
“Which fairy told you that the Vedda language is ‘Elu’?” In which dream did you see ‘Elu’ as semi Tamil Dravidian dialect? Did your grandmother tell you that ‘Elu’ was an ancient language?
Only now I realized that you are talking about goats and not about ‘Elu’ (the Sinhala Poetic language). You must be either hallucinating or confused between the Elu language and Eluwa (Goat).
If you visit the Public Library in Colombo, you will see more than 20 different ‘Elu’ text books, however you seem to be an uneducated and ignorant person who only knows a little bit of English after living in the white man’s land as a refugee for a few years. All what you write here has no evidence to prove, simple hallucinations and you are a number one dirty Racist.
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Pandi Kutti / August 18, 2019
Somapalan Appuchammy or Appuswami , this is the Thamizh origin of your so called Chingkalla name .AppuHami. Hamu or the female form Hamine is meaning lord or master is derived from the Thamizh word Swamy/Chammi meaning lord or master. Elu is Dravidian and semi Thamizh and you can squeal, deny and howl but this is the truth. Like Elu everything about Chingkallam is Thamizh . Chingkallam only came into existance around the 7AD and it is a mixture of Elu/Thamizh , Pali and Samaskirutham. It only started to evolve after the arrival of Buddhism 2300 years ago . You mean to say before that the population was deaf and dumb. Elu was existing long before this. Stop spreading lies Chingkalla nut case. You are indeed are indeed a mental case . I am not Siva Sankaran or Rohan and have never met them or know who they are. . I am neither a Brahmin nor a Hindu. I am Christian(Anglican). The former from the name I think is Brahmin and the later I presume is non Brahmin Hindu. Sadly I am related to Thamizh traitor Kathigammar and hail from the same village as him, Vaddukottai. Now be a good boy Somapalan Appuchami and stop posting rubbish. Even your so called Chingkalla name is Thamizh derived like everything about Chingkallam from Thamizh , yet you screech.
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Somapala Appuhamy / August 18, 2019
Siva Sankaran Sharma aka Pandi Kutti aka Rohan,
So, according to you everything in this world originated from Thamizh, Ha, ha, ha… LOL!
Even the Dinosaurs spoke Thamizh, happy!
I dismiss you as ill-informed, bigoted, and profoundly ignorant Racist. Study your brief before proceeding to comment on subjects you know nothing about.
It is not worth spending our precious time in trying to penetrate into your head which is already engraved with Racist mindset.
It is hilarious but sad to see how some people’s mindset is formed, very childish even though he looks quite old. They say just because someone is “grown-up” by chronological age doesn’t mean they are “grown-up” mentally. Age is no guarantee of maturity and you are a very good example.
Go and get some treatment. Your disease is called schizophrenia, where one of the symptoms is hallucinations that includes concocting fairy tales/fiction and then believing in the stories that you create as gospel.
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Amarasiri / August 16, 2019
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D. P. / August 16, 2019
Amarasiri,
I’m still waiting for a rebuttal!
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shankar / August 15, 2019
the airport is not being built due to the efforts of thanthai chelva.It is being built because of the efforts of ranil.Threfore it should be called ranil wickremesinghe international airport just like mahinda rajapakshe international airport and bandaranayake international airport.
as for the 13th amendment without the land and police powers it is a eunuch.this week navin dissanayake said in mullativu that the 13th amendment should be given the land and police powers.
I enjoy reading hoole’s articles.he does have a flair for writing that keeps you reading.
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X. Tissaveerasingham / August 15, 2019
The airport should NOT be named after SJV Chelvanayagam. It should be named either after Handy Perinpanayagam, the founder of the Jaffna Youth Congress and Jaffna’s progressive politics (of Purna Swaraj and social inclusion) or after Sir P. Arunachalam, another progressive who was the founding President of the Ceylon National Congress and the founder of Ceylon’s first trade union. Chelvanayagam by contrast was just another politician only interested in the next elections. A master of deceit, he led the Tamils to utter disaster like a Pied Piper. He was a pious humbug. Even GG Ponnambalam did more for Kankesanthurai.
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J. X. Tissaveerasingham / August 15, 2019
The airport should NOT be named after SJV Chelvanayagam. It should be named either after Handy Perinpanayagam, the founder of the Jaffna Youth Congress and Jaffna’s progressive politics (of Purna Swaraj and social inclusion) or after Sir P. Arunachalam, another progressive who was the founding President of the Ceylon National Congress and the founder of Ceylon’s first trade union. Chelvanayagam by contrast was just another politician only interested in the next elections. A master of deceit, he led the Tamils to utter disaster like a Pied Piper. He was a pious humbug. Even GG Ponnambalam did more for Kankesanthurai.
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shankar / August 16, 2019
tissaweerasingham
what about the man who has contributed most to air travel out of sri lanka for 25 years,VP.How about velupillai prabhahran international airport.Wiggie says he is a hero too.No more names,before someone comes up with arumuga navalar or elara.
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SJ / August 17, 2019
S
Now you risk getting close to naming it after Wiggie!
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Chandra / August 16, 2019
JXT: “a pios humbug”, “master of deceit” aren’t these precisely the qualities to name an airport after him — just like SWRD Banda?
My vote is for a leading figure from the community in the region who was murdered by, or on the orders of, Veluppillai Prabhakaran (Anandarajan, Amirthalingam, Duraiappah, Thiranagama, Yogeswaran… there is a wide choice) so that future generations will never forget the misadventure the murderer put their community through and stop thinking of him as a hero in a Tamil film.
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soma / August 15, 2019
Sinhalese also have come from India. Both religions are also Indian. So why should India take sides?
Another thing, if Parlay is a barter for the Tamil vote base for the UNP why should those of us who did not vote for UNP honour such an agreement – why should the whole country pay for it? Of course if Parlay must be developed for its own reasons that will benefit the Tamils that is another matter which we all must whole heartedly support.
I have pointed out this innumerable times. Both Hindu/Christian and Islamic Tamils need the goodwill will of ALL Sinhalese, not just a less than 50% of them. Offering en block support for one of the major political parties is a fundamental mistake. When will their political masters realise this?
India must understand that supporting the Hindu/Christian Tamils in the Northern Province will adversely affect those Tamils ( all Tamil speaking people irrespective of their religion, caste or the date of arrival) living outside.
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Native Vedda / August 15, 2019
somass
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“Sinhalese also have come from India. Both religions are also Indian. So why should India take sides?”
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Therefore you must decide when to go back to your mother country, sooner the better.
Hindia does not take sides.
Hindians treat all of you Tamils, Sinhalese, Muslims as their own people, like their own s**t, because they believe Sri Lanka is the Sinhala state of Hindia whereas the Tamils have their own state in Tamil Nadu and a bit more in this island.
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“Another thing, if Parlay is a barter for the Tamil vote base for the UNP why should those of us who did not vote for UNP honour such an agreement – why should the whole country pay for it? “
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Alright, the Tamil speaking people didn’t vote for public racist Banda in 1956, his weeping widow in 1972, JR in 1977, Mahinda in 2005, 2010, ………….. Why should they agree to take s***t from a Sinhala/Buddhist parliament since 1956 while paying their own share of taxes in many forms?
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Who is paying for the construction cost?
Is it you from your own pocket?
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Hindia does not give a **** about anything, including those who live in this island or in India.
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Eagle Eye / August 15, 2019
Native
India came into existence in 1947, long after the Sinhala race came into being.
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Dr. Gnana Sankaralingam / August 15, 2019
Ekel Guy, according to archaeological and linguistic evidence, Sinhala race came into being only 1500 years ago , long after Tamil civilization was in existence.
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SJ / August 15, 2019
You confuse the age of a race with that of its written literature which is much younger than the language itself. Tamil itself got its writing system from West Asia much after it established itself a a language.
Grow up.
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Amlodipine / August 15, 2019
SJ: Tamil has been around since stones were seen and sand not.
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Native Vedda / August 16, 2019
Amlodipine
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“SJ: Tamil has been around since stones were seen and sand not.”
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It cannot be true as Achchige Patali Champika Ranawaka told his Sinhala/Buddhist followers in France that Sinhala language is the oldest language of this world second only to Hebrew.
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You should keep yourself informed with latest developments in and around Sinhala/Buddhist world.
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Dr. Gnana Sankaralingam / August 16, 2019
Patali is a Tamil word which means a peasant. Champaka Ranawaka is a classic example of a suddha Sinhalaya having a Tamil family surname, just like Nalin de Silva another suddha Sinhalaya having a Malayali family name.
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SJ / August 17, 2019
Patali refers to Patna.
paattaali (not paatali) means toiler.
Peasant is uzavan or vivasaayi.
Check your facts before **** ********.
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Rohan / August 17, 2019
His family name is Paattali ( meaning working man or the one who toils ) now changed to or abbreviated to Patali and has nothing to do with the city of Patna in Bihar. Stop nit picking anti Tamil . You think that you are very witty and wise but in reality you are a nasty idiot. Nalin De Silva’s ancestors actually arrived from Southern Tamil Nadu and not from Kerala. Many communities or castes , especially the fisher communities and castes from Southern Tamil and southern Kerala have a common origin . Kerala was Tamil until a few centuries ago and many of the lower castes and masses of Kerala were the last to take on the modern Malayalam identity and remained and spoke their variant of Tamil much longer than the Nairs
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Mallaiyuran / August 17, 2019
Doctor is correct.
Patali’s name is adopting Tamil word. He too a descendant of hard labor migrated from Tamil Nadu. Ramdas has his party named with that word. It means it is Labor (class) Party. But Ramdas is racist, though an ardent Tamil lover. He is Vellala equivalent supporter.
பாட்டாளி(பெ) பொருள்
பெரும்பாலும் உடல் உழைப்பை மூலதனமாகக் கொண்டு உழைப்பவர்; பாடுபடுபவர்; உழைப்பாளி
மொழிபெயர்ப்புகள்
ஆங்கிலம்
worker, especially one performing physical work
hard worker
விளக்கம்
பாட்டாளி = பாடு + ஆள். பாடுபடும் ஆள்.
https://ta.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%9F%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%B3%E0%AE%BF
Peasant – Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peasant
A peasant is a pre-industrial agricultural laborer or farmer with limited land ownership, especially one living in the Middle Ages under feudalism and paying rent, tax, fees, or services to a landlord. In Europe, peasants were divided into three classes according to their personal status: slave, serf, and free tenant.
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SJ / August 17, 2019
Rohan
A classical name of Patna was Paatalipura.
No one names himself or his children a toiler; and no Tamil has a name like “paattaaLi” (except as pen name in recent decades).
I think that Mallung has a fantastic theory that is far more fun than the one by you and the doctor before you.
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Mallaiyuran / August 17, 2019
What is my theory? Where do you read it?
You just cannot survive without dictionary. So I gave you the dictionary. Dictionary said you are wrong, and doctor is right.
Is that you named SWRD as Panadara Nayakam. Would a that caste person in Jaffna like to call be him with that name, but not “Aiya” or “Kurukkal”.
Jaffna is not the “nobody”. Other than Vellala Pillai and Iyar – Kurukkal, Caste(job) is no longer in their names. Upper one like that too, now losing hold. But English people still have Carpenters and Smiths.
Tamil carpenters stone sculpture workers, goldsmiths and others like to carry “Aachchari” as surname. This tell their caste too.
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SJ / August 16, 2019
A
Many people like to believe it.
Join the club.
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Native Vedda / August 15, 2019
SJ
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“Tamil itself got its writing system from West Asia much after it established itself a a language.”
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There is no conclusive evidence to say that Tamil writing system came from West Asia at although Prof A Sathasivam (to Sumeria) and Iravatham Mahadevan (to Harappa) had traced the relationship to various parts of West Asia. Brahui spoken in Balochistan, Pakistan is part of Dravidian family of languages.
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Rohan / August 16, 2019
Don’t worry about SJ , he states he is a Tamil but makes constant anti Tamil statements . I suspect he is a Muslim
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SJ / August 17, 2019
R
You do have a suspicious mind I agree.
But, to be sane, combine it with some reason.
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D. P. / August 16, 2019
I came across a hypothesis suggesting that the S Indian Tamils are the remnants of the Indus Valley civilization that was ruined by the Aryans on it’s way along the river Ganges all the way to Orissa. If it is true, then it is very likely that Tamils came to SL before Aryans did. However, it doesn’t prove that Tamils were the first migrants; a group of early Out of Africa migrants who also crossed to Australia via Wollace line may have taken a detour to S India & SL.
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However, it is wrong to carry out this discussion in a political context; the subject belongs mostly to the theory of human evolution which is extremely incomplete at the moment. If almost all Homo varieties that left Africa had interbred as proven by genetic studies, then the term “species” cannot be used to identify any of the archaic extinct humans. Taking such a view would certainly challenge not just the existing theory of Human evolution but also the entire theory of evolution!
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The argument about priority is based solely on a meaningless issue of cultural differences which has no biological foundation at all & therefore should be taken out of political discussion as much as possible, if not completely, I think. In the modern world of high mobility not just cross cultural but also cross national borders, this arguments going to be a thing of the past very soon!
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Native Vedda / August 15, 2019
Eagle Blind Eye
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“India came into existence in 1947, long after the Sinhala race came into being.”
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You caught me there.
Where was Akhand Bharat which existed for many millennia before 1947, perhaps in Antarctica?
You haven’t learned anything from the lessons of the past have you?
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When you typed Sinhala race did you mean biological race?
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Eagle Eye / August 16, 2019
Dumb Native
Akhand Bharat, in its most expansive version, is envisioned to include territories that constituted the third century BC empire of Chandragupta Maurya. This would incorporate the modern day nations of Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Nepal, Burma, Tibet, Bhutan and Bangladesh but not Sri Lanka. Tamilians too were subjugated subjects of that empire. Based on your theory, most of the world would belong to a few current day nations such as China, Egypt, Iraq, Greece etc. Get real.
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SJ / August 15, 2019
EE
India as a British colony took form much earlier.
There was no country called India, but the people of the subcontinent had several common features but not enough to make a ‘nation’.
The subcontinent had a few big empires covering much of the land mass, but never called India.
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Mallaiyuran / August 15, 2019
Moda Eagle,
Do you mean the rowdy Lion was born first and La Lau country and Bengali country came into existence after that? What is the point of your talk? Do you mean your great, great grandpa was living in the air while he womanizing the human girls?
The idea of India existed even in Greek’s times. Columbus went Westward in search of India. Holland people used East Indian Company to capture and trade with India. British India came into when Parliament decided to take over India from British East Indian Trading Company.
Dravidian is a race went to India about 9,000 years ago from Mediterranean Sea area, through Egypt and Arabian Countries. 5,000 years ago Tamils used their coded writing in Indus Valley. Iravatham Mahadevan is confirming that. Tamil Brahmi is the oldest alphabets in India. About 1,500 years ago Sinhala Alphabet evolved from Tamil Brahmi, which is about 1,200 years after Tamil Brahmi came into existence. There is no Sinhala liturgical work 1,500 years old using Sinhala alphabet. 1,500 years old Mahavamsa was written Pali. Pali doesn’t have its alphabet. The Pali was selected to write Mahavamsa though still it didn’t have its alphabet because that time Sinhala is not a grammatical language to use for poetical works. Sanskrit still has no alphabet but hundreds of thousands of books are in that language. There is no equivalent to classical Sanskrit, irrelevant of it doesn’t have alphabet. Tamil, Pali and Sanskrit books are ones burned in Nalanda University by Muslim rowdies. Some worst idiots in this website think Mahavamsa was written in Pali because it has something to do with the missing alphabet to Sinhala. They are Absolute Modayas!
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Estate Labourer / August 16, 2019
Coming into existence and winning independence are two different things. If India came into existence in 1947 then Ceylon came into existence in 1948; and Sri Lanka came into existence in 1972.
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Thambapanni Man / August 17, 2019
Eagle Eye,
There are enough of ancient archaeological evidence in Sri Lanka such as Brahmi stone inscriptions, cave writings, Pali chronicles, etc where the terms ‘Dameda’, ‘Damela’, ‘Damila’, ‘Demel’ are mentioned as a group of people living in the island. Even in the Jataka stories such as Akitti Jataka, there is a reference to Damila-rattha, whereas there is NO evidence what so ever about the terms ‘Sihala’ or ‘Sinhala’ before and even a few centuries after the Pali chronicles were written. Even the Mahavamsa says, the missionary monk Mahinda Thero preached Buddhism to the people of the island in Deepa basa (language of the island) but it does not say that the deepa basa was ‘Elu’ or ‘Helu’ or ‘Sihala’ or ‘Sinhala’.
There is no evidence what so ever to prove that the early tribes were Sinhalese or they became Sinhalese. The Mahavamsa very clearly states that about two thousand five hundred years ago, Vijay and his 700 men (thugs) who came from India attacked, killed and chased away the aboriginal tribes into the jungle (Veddah Aethho), they did not mix with the local tribes, instead brought brides from Pandiya kingdom, they took Pandya wives from South India to form the Sinhala race.
Therefore, the concept of a fully evolved ‘Sinhala race’ and a ‘spoken/written Elu/Helu/Sihala language’ before the 9th century AD are pure assumptions and cannot be proved.
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soma / August 15, 2019
“Alright, the Tamil speaking people didn’t vote for public racist Banda in 1956, his weeping widow in 1972, JR in 1977, Mahinda in 2005, 2010, ………….”
+50 of Sinhalese are capitalist anti UNP. What is their obligation towards back room horse deals between Tamil parties and the UNP?
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Soma
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Native Vedda / August 15, 2019
somu
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“+50 of Sinhalese are capitalist anti UNP.”
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You mean 100% Sinhalese are capitalists?
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“What is their obligation towards back room horse deals between Tamil parties and the UNP”
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What did the ordinary Sinhalese gain from the deal between VP and clan?
What did the ordinary Sinhalese gain from the deal between VP and Premadasa?
What did the ordinary Sinhalese gain from the deal between the clan and Hindia?
What did the ordinary Sinhalese gain from the deal between the clan and Peacefully rising Middle Kingdom?
What did the ordinary Sinhalese gain from the cash and gold that was looted from VP’s Fort Knox in Vanni by Gota’s goons?
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Dr. Gnana Sankaralingam / August 15, 2019
Soma, did you hear about BJP policy on Sri Lanka. They say that original Sri Lanka was made up of Hindus and Buddhists who are converted Hindus. Therefore they want to have a union territory Hindu majority state created similar to how they created Ladakh a Buddhist majority state, to be side by side with a union territory Buddhist majority state. Buddhists in Ladakh have welcomed it, and Buddhists all over the world have endorsed it. So similar thing will be implemented by BJP in Sri Lanka, and you know that they mean it, and Buddhists all over the world cannot find fault with.
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soma / August 16, 2019
Dr G.S.
Modi wants Sri Lanka as a federal unit with some special status as Kashmir before or completely amalgamated as now?
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Soma
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Native Vedda / August 16, 2019
somass
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“Modi wants Sri Lanka as a federal unit with some special status as Kashmir before or completely amalgamated as now?”
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It is not Modi who wants Sri Lanka to be part of Hindia but Hindians of Delhi Sultanate have always treated this island the Sinhala state of Akhand Bharat, as simple as that.
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Please get used to the idea of being Sinhala state of Hindia.
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thamizh / August 15, 2019
“Wow! Now, this is what I call an educative article. There’s so much that India is willing to do for Sri Lanka!”
Lol!
hurray! Tamils are getting Palaly airport, thanks to India. Now everything will be fine.
No more Sinhala military occupation.
No more militarization of N-E.
No more military to military engagements between India-SL, whitewashing and enabling the above.
While Hoole enjoys his umbilical connectivity to India (note India and not Tamil Nadu), the Tamil people will be remembering the IPKF stint and India’s role in collaborating with SL state to commit genocide.
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SB / August 15, 2019
thamizh idiot ‘military occupation’ hasn’t even begun yet. You are in for a shock.
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ramona therese fernando / August 15, 2019
12,000,000 underserved Dalits in Tamil Nadu alone, Mr. Hoole.
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Rohan / August 15, 2019
Would have been a little more if 7 .5 million of them did not migrate to the island in the past few centuries and become Sinhalese, making up half the present so called Aryan Sinhales, just like your Karawa ancestors. Is that why you are so obsessed with Tamil Nadu Dalits , as you are descended from one of them?
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ramona therese fernando / August 15, 2019
No, Not me. Anyways Sinhalese, chased Tamil Nadu Dalits back for there were too many Sinhalese on the Island already. Most congregated in Jaffna.
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Rohan / August 16, 2019
Please read the origin of the Sinhalese Karawa, Salagama, Durawan and many other castes,. These people make up around 50% of the present day Sinhalese and are some of the biggest anti Tamils . Ironically all like you descended from recently Sinhalised , Tamil Dalits and low castes , who migrated to the island , a few centuries ago. The father of Sinhalese Buddhist Fascism and Sinhalese Aryan theory , the ” Homeless one or Ana Garika in Sanskrit/Pali” is also one of them
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ramona therese fernando / August 16, 2019
Not at all. Coastal Sinhalese always chased away your Dalits.
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SJ / August 17, 2019
The coastal Sinhalese, including Fernandos, were predominantly immigrants.
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ramona therese fernando / August 17, 2019
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ramona therese fernando / August 17, 2019
Rohan,….Sinhalese do not have aryan-phobia that is rattling you up so much. The only people this forum that speak of this phobia seems to be the Tamils. What Sinhalese people have is more north Indian genes as per their historical texts. I thought Tamils were very proud of their Dravidian genes. why worry about the Sinhalese and their history?
(not sure why my last comment was deleted……it was like this one)
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ramona therese fernando / August 17, 2019
Not really. Fernando was a generic name given to both Sinhalese and Tamils. But each side retained their ancestral names which gave their communal identity.
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Pandi Kutti / August 17, 2019
All your so called coastal Chingkallams were once coastal Thamizh . This includes your Fernando family.
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SJ / August 17, 2019
Fernando was a name that West coast Tamils and Sinhalese were took under the Portuguese. It was no surname like Silva or Perera.
The G caste never took that name although they took other names.
Fernando is most common among K (Tamils included) and S communities. There are also a few D and W Fernandos.
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BTW
Do you know what generic means?
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ramona therese fernando / August 17, 2019
SJ,…… I doubt the vast swathes of Sinhala Fernandos will agree to what you say. But all Sinhalese welcomed about 1% of Tamils (not barring caste, for all Tamils looked the same)….but excess was chased away as they were too different from the Sinhalese. Different country;different culture and religion. Leave the Sinhalese alone in peace I say!
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Deva / August 17, 2019
The Coastal Fernando of Sri Lanka (both Sinhalese & Tamils) are recent immigrants (after the arrival of Portuguese) from coastal South India.
Dr. Paul E. Pieris has published extracts from the Portuguese tombo records which gives the original names of the present day Sinhalese with Portuguese surnames before their conversion to Christianity and Buddhism. Dr. Pieris states: “The names deserve special attention, the majority appear to have been converted and adopted European Surnames names. For example, Fernando being the most popular surname, but the native name is also given among them being the following: Vira Cutti, Parama Cutti, Nila Cutti, Nahepulle, Avepulle, etc. These point to recent South Indian origin.
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ramona therese fernando / August 18, 2019
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ramona therese fernando / August 18, 2019
Yes, certainly the names are what the Portuguese gave the coastal people. The Sinhalese retained their ancestral names however, although the Portuguese names were good for business.
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Dr. Pieris did not know the deep historical Sinhala roots of the coastal people. It is the word of only one man and during his time, analysis of modern history was not advanced as in this day. He probably heard the coastal people also speaking and interacting with Tamil merchants and did not delve too deeply. If there is any mixture, it is of the fishing and merchant castes. The Fernandos and other Sinhalese I know look different from the Tamils also.
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(hope this comment is not removed……I wrote the same in the previous deleted comment)
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Deva / August 18, 2019
ramona TF,
Looks like you do not understand the meaning of tombo records. Analyzing history is different from maintaining records. The Portuguese had maintained tombo records of all the Sinhalese who adopted the Portuguese surnames along with their original names before becoming Sinhala Buddhists and Sinhala Catholics. Dr. Paul E. Pieris is not analyzing the history of these coastal Sinhalese people, he has only published extracts from the Portuguese tombo records. According to the Portuguese records, the Sinhalese people with Portuguese surnames (Fernando being the most popular surname) has also recorded their previous/original names before getting converted. By publishing extracts from the Portuguese tombo records, Dr. Paul E. Pieris shows us that their original names indicate recent South Indian origin.
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ramona therese fernando / August 18, 2019
Devi… Certainly we can’t trust the Portuguese records either. Being new to our country, they would not have known our culture and people, and not have had access to our family records. They would not have had the deep modern day historical analysis that is used nowadays.
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Deva / August 18, 2019
ramona TF
If Dr. Paul E. Pieris (extracts from the tombo records), Professor Gananath Obeyesekere (in his book “Buddhism, Ethnicity, and Identity,”) and Professor K.M. de Silva (in his book `A History of Sri Lanka`) say the same thing and if they can trust the tombo records as fact, it is only ramona TF (a Portuguese married to a Fernando) does not want to accept the truth about Fernando. Living in denial is OK if it makes you feel good. The academics in Sri Lanka have taken the Portuguese tombo records as a fact, so denying it is only cheap tactic to avoid facing reality. I can only laugh, LOL!
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Deva / August 18, 2019
You still do not seem to understand the meaning of tombo records, it gives the details/profile of a list of people with their present names and previous original names, etc. Historical analysis is different from referring to records.
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ramona therese fernando / August 18, 2019
Deva,
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No, I’m not a Portuguese. As per Lankan academics of about 50-200 years ago taking up Portuguese tombo records….well unfortunately that’s the only thing they took up – the Portuguese records; records of conquistadors into the country who had no understanding and regard for the anthropology of the people and were only bent on making money and finding gold the quickest way possible. Nowadays, anthropology is a far more sophisticated science. As per feeling good, yes, I feel good about the vast swathes of Sinhala people who occupied mostly the Lankan coastline and fiercely protected it against foreigners (except the Portuguese and other Europeans of course who had guns….others they just chased away).
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ramona therese fernando / August 19, 2019
Again I say, Portuguese would not have been too meticulous with their Lankan records. Their main interest were the masses of Indians and the money making from them……Sri Lanka being a step-off stone. Yes, there were also Tamils fishermen in Tamil villages in Sri Lanka. And as Sinhala fisherman and other Sinhala merchants also knew some Tamil as it improved their business dealings, Portuguese would have generalized about all fishermen and other merchants as they knew the Tamils more as per their association with India.
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Dr. Gnana Sankaralingam / August 17, 2019
You are wrong. Udappu is a Tamil village in Puttalam district, where coastal Sinhalese have failed to chase away those Tamils.
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Rohan / August 17, 2019
Not only Udappu but there are still many ancient( Hindu and Catholic) Tamil villages in the Chilaw and Puttalam districts , especially Puttalam that have retained their ancient Tamil identity and not got Sinhalised , like what happened to the rest of Negombo, Chilaw and Puttalam. Udappu is the most famous as this is where the Munneswaram temple is
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Karapotha / August 17, 2019
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ramona therese fernando / August 15, 2019
Why, that’s more than half of the population of our precious Island!
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our precious Island / August 17, 2019
ramona therese fernando
Which part of ‘our precious Island’ are you from? The name Fernando indicates South-west coastal area (fisher folk). You must be settled in Colombo. If you go to Dematagoda, Wanathamulla, Maradana, Slave Island, Panchikawatte, Pamankade, Thotalanga, grandpass and so many other places in ‘our precious Island’ you find plenty of shanties with stinking canals. The one and only one metropolitan city in ‘our precious Island’ known as Colombo is full of dirty stinking places, polluted canals, shanties, and full of beggars, pickpockets, prostitutes, pimps, drug addicts, and what not, and there is hardly any public toilet in the city?
When you criticize India, you pretend to have forgotten that you women wear Indian Saris, most of the vehicles running in Sri Lanka are from India, most of the drugs sold in pharmacies in Sri Lanka are from India, and most of all the man you worship (Buddha, you find a statue at every nook and corner under a bo tree) is also from India.
The only flourishing business/trade in ‘our precious Island’ is slave trade, exporting women to Mid-East, Singapore, Maldives, etc. for a monthly salary of U$ 200 only, as house maids, cleaners and nannies. The women in ‘our precious Island’ are known as the best toilet cleaners in the Mid-East. The Arabs have employed them in Airports, Hospitals, schools and Malls to clean toilets used by multi-nationals from the entire world.
The way India and specially Tamil Nadu is developing (with IT technology and several manufacturing industries) and turning into an economic boom, I am sure very soon India/Tamil Nadu will start recruiting women from ‘our precious Island’ as House maids and cleaners and pay a better salary than U$ 200. Don’t you think it is better for you women to work as cleaners in Buddha’s land for a better wage than in Arab land?
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ramona therese fernando / August 18, 2019
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Old codger / August 18, 2019
Temper, Ramona, temper!
Keep cool!
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ramona therese fernando / August 18, 2019
“our precious Island,”
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Have you seen New York, Chicago, Blatimore? The difference with your place and mine is the proportions. For every 200 persons, we have one suffering person. And usually the suffering person is the poor Sinhala Buddhist (minorities are doing fairly well). Now for India on the other hand, for every 5 persons, you have one suffering human (and all are Dalits).
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The reason that our people go to the ME is because we have pride in hard work and are not programmed by the caste system to accept living life in squalor.
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Yet we can’t escape the Indian culture can we, although a large part of us is the exclusive Lankan gene. But we yet love our Indians of course, and would love to do business with you. It’s just that we don’t want to compromise our Buddhist values. We would love to have more interaction of Tamil and Sinhalese of course with shops and films and food and interesting people, and the sharing of brains. But in the end, it is the poor depreciated Dalits will be pushed yet again onto our tiny Island to get chased back yet again. Once your success-story has plateaued (a possibly very short plateau at that, with the many, many poor and needy person in you land), our precious land will be used to balance out the monetary figures.
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So I say, once all of you show some Buddhist values of Egalitarianism, then and only then can we welcome you.
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(hope this comment is not deleted. it is the same as my last deleted comment)
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Deva / August 18, 2019
“once all of you show some Buddhist values of Egalitarianism”
Having obsession for toilets and Dalits seems to be your Buddhist values of Egalitarianism?
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ramona therese fernando / August 18, 2019
Deva……Stop shooting the messenger with your stuff! Reality is a difficult thing for you to fathom isn’t it….it stings. That’s what happens when you put people in castes. Pay your taxes and look after your untouchables. Then and only then come after Sri Lanka. We will welcome you with open arms.
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Native Vedda / August 15, 2019
ramona grandma therese fernando
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“12,000,000 underserved Dalits in Tamil Nadu alone, Mr. Hoole.”
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What are you doing about it?
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Do you how many households in this island having to do without toilets.
Confidential, keep it to yourself, 95,000. What are you doing about it?
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Those dalits from South India are doing very well in Gota’s country, the USA, Indra Nooyi Krishnamurthy, Sundar Pitchai, Satya Nadella, Shantanu Narayen, George Kurian, ………………… to name a few.
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If I were you I would claim a share of their glory by claiming to be a descendant of South India.
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ramona therese fernando / August 15, 2019
NV,
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That’s 200:1 for Sri Lanka (for every 200 people having toilets in Sri Lanka, 1 person will have no toilet).
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Now compare that to the Tamil Nadu static: 5:1 (for every 5 human having toilets, 1 human will have no toilet).
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ramona therese fernando / August 16, 2019
…statistic……although static is also ok~
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Deva / August 17, 2019
NV
Looks like ramona TF is obsessed with Toilets. I have noted several of her comments even earlier where she talks about Toilets. She loves to talk about Toilets. Does she have a fetish for Toilets?
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ramona therese fernando / August 18, 2019
Deva,………Nonsense, I was only replying to NV. (same thing I wrote in the last deleted comment).
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Native Vedda / August 18, 2019
Deva
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It is not just ramona grandma therese fernando who is obsessed with Indian (particularly Tamil Nadu) toilets or absence of it there are hundreds of thousands of both Tamil and Sinhala speaking narcissists who dwell extensively on that subject hence we in this island have full time Tamil Nadu Toilet/Bum watchers who are proud of their profession. They watch and count how many Tamil bums which don’t use modern toilets.
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Deva / August 18, 2019
NV,
what you are trying to say is, all these people (ramona) are obsessed with Tamil Nadu bums? LOL!
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ramona therese fernando / August 19, 2019
OMG, don’t bring them anywhere near Sri Lanka.
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Eagle Eye / August 16, 2019
Speak for yourself Nativ. Dalit or not, did you not opt to take asylum and wash dishes in London?
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Native Vedda / August 17, 2019
Eagle Blind Eye
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“Speak for yourself Nativ. Dalit or not, did you not opt to take asylum and wash dishes in London?”
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I don’t need to do both.
I do understand your pathetic situation.
Do you envy those who wash dishes in London?
From your personal experience do you think washing dishes in London is better than washing Arab bums in medieval middle east kingdoms or do you enjoy watching and cleaning Arab bums?
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Wimpy Kid / August 15, 2019
India is our big brother whether we like it or not.
China may be a rising power but we cannot sideline India at any cost.
Prof Hoole has hit the nail on the head.
Little brother should be extra smart to survive in this setting, if little brother is really really
smart little bro could thrive and turn this situation for the benefit of Sri Lankans.
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Native Vedda / August 15, 2019
S. Ratnajeevan H. Hoole
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“Thanks to India, Sri Lanka is being pulled into the Comity of Civilized Nations.”
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Which part of Sri Lanka is being pulled into the community of Civilised and which part is going to remain the Sinhala/Buddhist ghetto?
By the way we were led to believe Sri Lanka is the Sinhala state of Hindia.
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Citizen Silva / August 16, 2019
Hope India could civilise the Tamil Barbarians who supported the LTTE
Or will the civilised Indians turn into barbarians in the process?
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Native Vedda / August 17, 2019
Citizen Silva
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“Hope India could civilise the Tamil Barbarians who supported the LTTE”
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Who is going to civilise those Hindians who first recruited, trained, armed and relied upon LTTE for excellent results?
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Who is going to civilise the Sinhala/Buddhist fascist butchers who have been actively hunting down innocent people from 5th April 1971 ….. to date?
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Why don’t you give it a try?
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Kumar R. / August 15, 2019
Jeevan,
Frankly, your write up is quite a disappointment, given the education and maturity expected based on the known credentials of the authour! Incoherent, if not illogical ramblings tied together to whitewash and defend India’s cruel plans and actions since the 70’s to date, by an ardent apologist aimed at extracting some favour, presumably.
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Some illustrative nonsensical verbiage from the article:
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“India was forced to intervene because our war was threatening India’s security with gun fights between Tamil factions in Chennai.” May I remind you that India’s intervention began with Indira Gandhi’s ambitious plans that preceded “Chennai fights” you refer to by several decades!
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“Hindus to temples for blessings like our Prime Minister and President” – Hindus?! Really?!!
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“We are working with GoSL so that we can transform this dream into reality soon.” Do you really think India’s motivation and initiative targets addressing Jaffna Tamils’ dream? Has it got anything to do with India’s desperate need to get a foothold in the North (not different than the Trinco ambitions of the 70’s) having now lost the Southern monopoly to Yuan masters? Well – you were gullible enough to trust MR and greedily and foolishly relocate the whole family– why should it be a surprise if you trust the Indian diplomats!!
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Clotted Cream / August 15, 2019
Fully agree, Kumarar — very shallow piece indeed.
Indian intervention, giving false hope to the Tamils, brought about much of the misery our people had to endure. I can still remember 1974 when my uncle addicted to Suthanthiran newspaper would argue: “India will come and create Eelam”. With their atom bomb, army atrocities in Kashmir and a third of the population having no access to toilets, India hasn’t got the track record to be “mother India” to us, Tamils.
But with a link to India via Palaly airport Sri Lanka could look for some good business opportunities — there is a growing middle class in Tamil Nadu with money to spend and that is a big market. We can sell them Gopal brand tooth paste, Elephant brand match sticks, Murugan brand cigars… and maybe some lucky Sri Lankan fellows will fall in love with pretty Chera girls.
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Sunil / August 15, 2019
Yes,the names of the airport would fit each other like the “hand in the pocket”.One ruined the Sinhalese and the South with “Racism” and the other the “Tamils” and the North. Of course they both need to be remembered forever like “the Small Pox “that once afflicted mankind.
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shankar / August 15, 2019
since those two are responsible for so many sri lnkans leaving their country by plane.
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Siri / August 15, 2019
With dedication and care, if they opened up to the world, and particularly to our immediate and back door neighbour Indra, Sri Lanka’s economy would double, for that matter triple in no time. All around that would tremendously boost the living standards of the entire population of the country. Still these people are like the frog in the well. See the airports and sea ports of Dubai with it’s highly open economy, they are making huge contributions, and the life blood of it’s economy, in-spite of equally good airports and sea ports, few kilometres away, in Abu Dahbi, Sharjah, Ras Al Khaimah and Fujairah, It’s the open the economy, serving the entire Middle East, North and East Africa markets. Similarly Singapore with it’s air and sea ports with it’s hugely successful free and open economy serving the South, South East, North East Asian and Australian Markets. Why Sri Lanka could do the same to the Sub- continent and beyond. It’s the fastest growing economic area of the world and have booming middle with high disposable income.
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Anpu / August 15, 2019
No flights to and from Tamilnadu -According to https://www.tamilguardian.com/content/indian-flights-jaffna-will-not-include-tamil-nadu
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Good Sense / August 15, 2019
My Dear Prof. Hoole, It is correct to say that various communities in Sri Lanka in general have various problems, residents of Northern Province not excluded. The reality is that a country intervenes in another’s affairs not for various affiliations but to protect the interests of the intervenor. Welcoming, celebrating another’s Independence day is most welcome, displaying typical Sri Lankan culture of hospitality. But the expectation that it would put its hand on domestic affairs each and every time that prominent Northerners want is a Pipe Dream. True! There are many a cultural, social ties within the region. Unfortunately the article gives rise to a misunderstanding that to the Northerners, India is more important than the rest of Sri Lanka. Don’t forget Prof Hoole, who prevented you from functioning as the VC of Jaffna University, in spite of the fact that you were appointed to it? First we have to put our own house in order and that applies even to the Northerners. I am too small a guy to make a recommendation to the Northerners but if they can show that within a limited resources, both in terms of money and authority that they have achieved the maximum, then they have a case to ask for more. Otherwise it looks like another Oliver Twist asking for more.
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Estate Labourer / August 15, 2019
Most people here, especially the Sinhalese, erroneously think that Tamil Nadu is an impoverished and backward state like Bihar or Uttar Pradesh. Well, it is not so. To tell the truth Sri Lanka is a rather more impoverished place (excepting Greater Colombo). People simply make assumptions on the basis of the situation that prevailed in Tamil Nadu in the 1960s and 1970s. Tamil Nadu kept progressing fast while we were mired down with the 30 year war. Even after the war ended peace is still eluding us because of the unwillingness of the majority community to share power with the minority communities. Thus, majoritarianism, nationalism, chauvinism and xenophobia are the stumbling blocks against social, political and economic progress in this country.
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shankar / August 15, 2019
its in the DNA.Can’t blame the sinhalese.Can’t be changed.
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SB / August 15, 2019
Shankar are you a racist? Would you like to withdraw your comment?
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shankar / August 15, 2019
SB
sorry cannot withdraw it because my sinhala friends say the same thing.Where chauvinism and xenophobia are concerned sri lankan tamil DNA also same.We are your closest relatives they say.The indian tamils are different from both of us.
ps.there is a possibility that DNA can change or be diluted with future generations,but with the current especially older folk you will hitting your head against a brick wall trying to change their ethnic views.
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Native Vedda / August 15, 2019
SB
The Sinhala/Buddhist (SB) Kallathonie
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“Shankar are you a racist? Would you like to withdraw your comment?”
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You typed, “Alas Native Weirdo you Demalas have no chronicle of your own. Envy is all you have.”
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What did you mean by Demalas?
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JD / August 15, 2019
Tamilnadu is well developed. Tamilnadu is every thing in India. But, they still live in the ancient past. Most of the Tamisl who are not tortured in Tamilnadu came to Sri lanka, became Brahmins and ask Orumiththanadu in Sri lanka.
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Suranga Gunasekera / August 15, 2019
India is the reason for the LTTE issue. Ghandi family saw the booming Sri Lankan economy and created terrorism in Lanka to tackle this issue.
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They were trained by RAW and constantly supported by the Indian government. Finally Rajiv Gandhi stopped supporting the terrorism.
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He got his answer by the same people his parents trained. Killing Ghandi was the stupidest mistake LTTE did.
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Even now the poverty in India is much greater than Sri Lanka. India don’t by anything from Sri Lanka. We help their economy by importing many and varied products.
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They want to keep it that way, and their threatening us by becoming a competitor in our export markets.
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They need us but we don’t need them. But through political thuggery they keep us in control.
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What we need is vision and proper leadership, we can easily be better than Singapore in no time.
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Singapore has no natural resources and we have many. We are ideally located for shipping and air travel. Our highest spending is to import food around 10 billion a year, when we have the perfect soil for cultivation.
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Native Vedda / August 15, 2019
Suranga Gunasekera
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Your typing is a masterpiece worthy of an appendix to Mahavamsa .
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j.muthu / August 15, 2019
Typiacal sinhala budhist modaya….any how how r u Mr native….i am too busy for coming election….catch u later…
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SB / August 15, 2019
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Native Vedda / August 15, 2019
Jamese Muthu Banda
Tamil Speaking Sinhalam
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Too many parties and too many candidates of which, who do find worth of working for?
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On a typical day how much each party is willing to pay for its volunteers.
Who fixes the rate of pay?
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SB / August 15, 2019
Alas Native Weirdo you Demalas have no chronicle of your own. Envy is all you have.
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JD / August 15, 2019
Native Vedda Is Sinhala. He talks even to Bhikkus. NAtive Weirdo< DO you know Julampitiye amaraya.
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Estate Labourer / August 16, 2019
What about Mahabharatha and Ramayana?
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Thappu / August 15, 2019
Thanks Native Vedda, I couldn’t have put it any better.
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KA / August 16, 2019
Mahavamsam is an appendicitis material, not even a comical stuff. No?
Can you imagine appendix to an appendicitis material?
Who knows?
Mahanama might have been self-pleasuring to give a form of reality to his imagination.
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Kabaragoya / August 16, 2019
Cheap Shot Native. Why don’t you write in the Veddah language?
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Native Vedda / August 16, 2019
Kabaragoya
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“Why don’t you write in the Veddah language?”
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Why aren’t you writing either in old Tamil ( 3rd century BC to the 8th century AD – -Thani Tamil Iyakkam ) or Sinhala Prakrit inscriptions (maybe you can learn a thing or two from Munidasa Cumaratunga’s Hela Movement)? `
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shankar / August 15, 2019
“India is the reason for the LTTE issue. Ghandi family saw the booming Sri Lankan economy and created terrorism in Lanka to tackle this issue.”
itwas booming allright in july 83.with explosions and fire.Ghandhi was behind it all.
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Wimpy Kid / August 16, 2019
Ghandi family is _Tamil?
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Dias / August 15, 2019
Mr Bandaranaike was Tamil?
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shankar / August 15, 2019
telugu.Nayakkar was the title given to the tax collectors of the vijayanagar empire.
so was sri wickreme rajasinghe the last king of kandy,though lived in tamilnadu.
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / August 15, 2019
No they are Tamils and had nothing to do with the Telugu origin Naickers of Tamil Nadu. His ancestors were from the Tamil Pandarar caste, ( non Brahmin temple priests and workers) The head of this caste was called Pandara Naickan ( leader or head) , which later got Sinhalised to BandaraNayake or Bandaranaike. All these Tamil Pandarar became Kandyan Sinhalese Bandara/Banda. Pandaran can also mean prince or a person of high birth. Pandaran Veli means the field or open space belonging to the noble or prince . This later got Sinhalised to Bandarawela. The ancestor of SWRD Bandaranaike war a Neela Perumal, who belonged to the Pandarar caste and migrated here to be a temple priest. The Naickers in Tamil Nadu were of Telugu ancestry but had lived in Tamil Nadu for centuries and spoke Tamil as their mother tongue and gradually considered themselves as Tamils with a distant Telugu ancestry. By the time these Madurai/Thanjavur Naickers , arrived to rule the Kandyan kingdom, hey were fully Tamilised and spoke Tamil and promoted only Tami. This is why the Kandyan convention is largely signed in Tamil by the so called Kandyan chiefs and the court language of Kandy was not only Sinhalese but Tamil , as most of the king and so called Kandyan aristocracy spoke Tamil. The land king of Kandy and his family were deported to Salem in Tamil Nadu and not to Andhra or Telegana , as these people considered themselves Tamils from Tamil Nadu. His direct descendants still live there. The ardent Tamil nationalistic politician Vaiko is from the Naicker community and so are many other prominent personalities in Tamil Nadu. Many of them will be third or fourth cousins of all these now Tamil hating Kandyan Radalas , whose ancestors signed the Kandyan convention in Tamil. This includes the great grand father of that Tamil hating Srimavo Ratwatte Bandaranaicke. He signed his name in Tamil as Ravathai.
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shankar / August 15, 2019
SSS
thats what i said.The vijayanagar empire was long time ago and they sent their people to collect the taxes in other parts of south india.Over decades they may have assimilated but their original origin is telugu.Not only vaiko,but i think karunanithi also has telugu ancestry Tamilnadu is full of them as a close rapport seems to have been between tamils and telugu people over the centuries.Even rajini kanth i think is telugu and even gemini ganesan’s sinna veedu woman padmini.I like to think that sri wickreme rajasinghe who got the mother to pound her childrens head is a telugu and so is racist banda,So shameful for tamils.
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JD / August 15, 2019
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SJ / August 15, 2019
The Madras state was dominated by Tamils and Telugus, also Chennai linked the Cinema industry of both TN & AP. the Tamil movie world was once dominated by Telugu actors, mucisians, producers and directors.
Vijayanagara Kingdom is something that Tamil nationalists resent. There was much development in Tamilnadu under the Kingdom.
Tanjore district had strong Telugu presence in the in the 16th and 17th centuries.
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Rajinikanth is Kannada.
You mean Savitri not Padmini I guess.
You could refer to her with more respect. She was a towering movie personality who stood taller than Gemini Ganeshan and still ranked as the greatest female actor of Andhra. (See the movie Mahanadhi).
Banumathi the greatest all rounder of Tamil cinema was Telugu too..
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KA / August 16, 2019
“Tamil Cinema always invent itself and this is not possible in other Indian cinema.”
These are not my words, A Bachchan’s words.
It is Tamil cinema that has broken family lineage of actors, actresses, and especially background solo singing.
E.g. Vijay Sethupathi, a former trainee accountant who got bored and turned to acting as career. Samuthira Kani, a lawyer.
In all these there are so many winners and loosers. Essentially, Kollywood has now matured into kind of sillicon valley of cinema.
Tamil cinema also provides films to taste of people at various level of social strata because budget is so much varied, as well as concept, story line etc.
The others and Tollywood now follow Bollywood, formulaic with big settings etc. So not much room for invention.
Rajanikanth had had his time. Kamal is still relevant, himself a cinema and art inventor.
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / August 16, 2019
Shankar Rajani Kanth is a Maharashtrian . His mother tongue is Marathi. He is an ethnic Marathi from Karnataka. His actual mane is Shivaji Rao Gaekwad. Karunanithi is Tamil . He is from the Isai Vellalar community. Just like Jayalalitha was a Tamil Iyengar Brahmin but many anti Tamils state that the former is Telugu and the later Kannada. The father of the Dravidian movement Periyar is a Naicker . He is not a Telugu Naicker but a Kannada Naicker . However many important Tamils in Tamil Nadu have this Telugu Naicker/Kappu/ Reddy ancestry. These people are now highly integrated into the Tamil society. Most do not speak Telugu or speak a very rudimentary form of Telugu and have no real connection with Andhra or Telengagana. Geminin Ganeshan himself who is considered to be a typical Tamil hails from Telugu origin Brahmin sub caste called the Mullukunadu Brahmins. However when he fell in love with actress Savithri and married her , many Telugus were unhappy and stated Savithri betrayed the Telugus by marrying a Tamil.
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KA / August 16, 2019
Tamil cinema nurtures raw talent, institutionally not racist and a melting pot, yet competitive rivalry exists.
Only in Tamil cinema, any one from North to South can try to make their name, fame, wealth and home.
See producers, directors, artists, technicians, camera, solo singers and all others.
The other cinema and States are institutionally racist to the level that at times Tamil films are barred and/or banned for a period of time.
Even Seeman take is any one can make Tamilakam their home and home of name, fame and wealth, and only Tamil must rule Tamilakam.
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SJ / August 17, 2019
The Isai Velalar (no caste was named that until recently) especially around Tanjore immigrated from Andhra.
The reason why the family was unhappy about Savitri’s marriage was because it was to an already married person, who was also a reputed womaniser.
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Glad to see your spotting more people of Telugu origin in Tamilnadu. What is the score now? 10%?
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / August 17, 2019
No they never arrived from Andhra , they are a native Tamil caste and stop behaving like an idiot and posting nonsense just for the sake of opposing me . Yes Gemini Ganeshan was already married and was a well known womaniser but that is beside the point. I am not talking about this but about the general Telugu fans and population who are aghast when their much loved Telugu heroine Savithri married a Tamil man. They felt that she betrayed the Telugus by marrying a Tamil. The percentage of Tamils with Telugu ancestry is not more than 10% and not 50% as you stated. Tamils and Telugus belong the same Dravidian people , speak related languages and at one time, what is now Southern Andhra was part of Tamil country. Even now many Telugus from further north sarcastically refer to the Telugus from southern Andhra as Tamils. You really are a nasty vindictive piece of goods, who tried to be clever and witty and ends up looking like an idiot
https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/mired-dravidian-politics-were-tamil-nadus-isai-vellalars-always-socially-backward-39321
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Thiru / August 15, 2019
“………, began drug-dealing, and smuggling uzi-machine guns from Israel to drug cartels in South and Central America it signaled that it had grown too big for its boots and threatened peace globally. That is why the IC had to act as it did in 2005-9. “
The above statement is a blatant lie propagated by the author
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / August 15, 2019
Yes it is a blatant lie and he should be ashamed for propagating this lie stared by the Sinhalese / Indians and other anti Tamils. No one connected to the LTTE ever got caught locally or internationally with drug smuggling or dealing with drugs. The LTTE and its leader hated drugs and drug dealing , illicit sex, pornography. He had a strict code of conduct and he made his follower and the ordinary cadres to follow this too. During the LTTE rule the North and East were free of drugs and other forms of bad social behaviour. This is a fact. Now these areas are deliberately being flooded with drugs. The LTTE are no saints and they made some mistakes but never dealt with drugs and this man should be ashamed of openly propagating this lie. He is trying to belittle his own people and their liberation movement. However I agree with what he states about our close ties with India/Tamil Nadu and this should be encouraged. Especially under Modi, who will be tough on people who try to destroy ancient historic Tamil Hindu worship sites , By Sinhalese Buddhist Fascists and fake Arab South Indian Tamil Dravidian origin Islamic Wahhabis, that is sacred to all Hindus.
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SB / August 15, 2019
Ha ha ha SSS is a blind fool. Not only drugs, sea piracy, arms smuggling, extortion, money laundering, passport forgery, credit card fraud, cyber attacks, you must be very proud. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_charges_leveled_against_the_LTTE
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shankar / August 15, 2019
oooh.SSS seems to have fallen on his broomstick.Next time he will apply lipstick.
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latha / August 16, 2019
SSS has no shame. He comes with same lies tomorrow.
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Somapala Appuhamy / August 17, 2019
SJ & shankar
Siva Sankaran Sharma and Rohan and Pandi Kutti are the same person. At one time he calls himself a Vellalar Christian (Anglican), another time he says he is a Brahmin. A fraud masquerading as a high caste Tamil promoting racism. None of what he blabbering is true.
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Pandi Kutti / August 18, 2019
Hello Somapalan Appuchammi? How is the asylum? Yes I am Brahmin and a Vellala Christian. I may even be a Chingkalla Poutham. I suffer from multiple personalities just like you. Chingkalla Somapalan Aupphami/ Thamizh Somapalan Appuchammi . We met at the asylum.
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Pandi Kutti / August 18, 2019
contd: Your name it self is derived from a Thamizh name or title Appuchammi or Appuswami but you are rabid anti Thamizh Chingkallam. You want a fight with me Chingkallam? Bring it on and you will regret it . I do not know about the other two but I will send you crying back to your Amma to hide behind her Sari Pottai. Oh this is fun Somu . Somu Kunju where are you? I Am coming Amma’s Sari Pootai cannot save you
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Mallaiyuran / August 16, 2019
SB,
” Wikipedia does not have a user page with this exact name. In general, this page should be created and edited by User:Allyresurrected. If in doubt, please verify that “Allyresurrected” exists.
This is why Wikipedia report about the author of the article you are referring. SB, is that you created that page. Or did a Bald Head helped you to do it? Can you tell me if you are a bald head or not?
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / August 17, 2019
Oh really racist bigot ? Read the article. These are all just accusations against the LTTE by various pro Sinhalese governments and foreign spy organisations and the Sri Lankan government, deliberately done to belittle the LTTE and the just Tamil uprising by trying to portray them and the Tamils as a bunch murderous drug smuggling bunch , who do not deserve any human rights or liberation from racism. All these large scale drug smuggling and other accusations by all these powerful organisations yet no one was caught or charged. Strange.
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JD / August 15, 2019
LTTE made some mistakes. I am sure, Pabakaran had to drink muddy and salty water of Gon Kalapuwa by mistake because no clean water to be found in the surrounding..
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SJ / August 15, 2019
Not getting caugt is one thing doing something is another.
Drugs are for profit and sold to those who can afford.
Nearely all the Tamil liberation movements were up to their neck in shady deals including drug smuggling. (Ends justifying means, I guess?)
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Modi will do nothing that SSS hopes for.
He has other things to worry, especially the economy. Heard the latest about the motor industry?
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kali / August 15, 2019
Whether we like it or not I have always said Sri Lankas Sovereignty is limited to Indias security. In terms of its foreign policy Sri Lanka has to tread very carfully not to threaten Indias security but MR through GREED overstepped the mark inviting Indias Wrath. If he is returned he will be a Lame Duck ” Quack”. Gotha will add spice to Indian Bryani.
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Eagle Eye / August 15, 2019
Prof.Hool
It would have been more appropriate to state Tamil’s Permanent Umbilical Connectivity To India. At the time of Vijaya’s arrival, there was no India. Irish, Poles, Italians among others all went to America and they are now Americans and claim no umbilical connectivity. That is only a Tamil minority complex. By the way, how was the Indian Consul General’s food at the function? I understand you relish it like there is no tomorrow!
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Native Vedda / August 15, 2019
Eagle Blind Eye
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“Irish, Poles, Italians among others all went to America and they are now Americans and claim no umbilical connectivity. “
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Similarly, people who spoke Tamil, Telugu, Kannada, Malayalam and other Dravidian languages, came here converted to Sinhala/Buddhism and claim to be the sole owners of this island, call it with a Sanskrit name, and believe in all sorts of myths including Vijayan, ……….. Conversion must have made them dump.
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There was no Sri Lanka either until the weeping widow coined it.
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soma / August 16, 2019
NV
Why don’t they find another forum to fight out over Tamil history and genetics? Shouldn’t they discuss about what are they going to do with those Tamils (all Tamil speaking people irrespective of their religion, caste or the date of arrival) presently living outside the boundary of the envisaged Homeland? And questions like the Caliphate to be accommodated within or alongside?
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Soma
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Eagle Eye / August 16, 2019
Dumb Native
So how come you took asylum in UK and washed plates for the Suddas without scooting off to your Akhand Bharat or paradise on earth Tamil Nadu? Was it the lack of toilets? By the way, ever heard of Tharaka Ravana of the island called Lanka? I guess not.
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Kabaragoya / August 16, 2019
You are right. The Salagama came from Saligramam to peel cinnamon. The berawes, the karaves, etc. came from the southern coast of India. Now, they are Sinhala Buddhist chauvinists claiming direct descent from the crook Vijaya, spawned of the bestiality of a lion.
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Rajash / August 16, 2019
Eagle Eye _ the umbilical chord of Sinhalease is connected to that four legged animal
yuk!….
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SJ / August 15, 2019
There was no nation or state called India until the British colonized the continent.
To talk of India as an entity is like talking about Europe or Africa. In fact India is a lot more diverse culturally, linguistically and ethnically.
But India is there and it is a fact of life.
Regions were annexed with and without the consent of rulers and/or people. The most regrettable are the case of Kashmir and states in the north east including Nagaland and Manipur and resistance has persisted from the time they were annexed. India annexed Sikkim in 1974.
The Indian elite that took over from the colonial rulers nursed the same expansionist vision for India as the colonial rulers did.
Among what held India together was secularism. But what we have now is a Hindutva state (which I wonder the author endorses). During the past 5 years there has been an unprecedented scale of violence against Muslims and Christians (something to cheer the author I guess).
International Federation of Journalists in 2016 ranked India as the eighth the most dangerous places for journalists.
If one wants to know India had to offer for its neighbours ask a Nepali or a Bhutanese. Post-WW2, Indian meddling in the affairs of other countries is only behind the US and Israel.
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India lost credibility among the Sinhalese long ago and later among Muslims.
Tamils should have learned their lesson in 1987-90, and during peace talks and in the last years of the Civil War.
If they did, will they have leaders like the ones that they suffer now?
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Rajash / August 16, 2019
SJ “But India is there and it is a fact of life.”
wow this must be the typing on the keyboard of the century by a human
what do you think of it Native Vedda
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SJ / August 16, 2019
R
Congratulations and Thanks.
I did not realize that I have made such a great discovery.
Glad that you had no other item to pick on?
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Abdul Jalil Aziz / August 16, 2019
The Maoist Sivasegaram (一個共產主義者 – last of the Mohicans) is predictably jaundiced and jaded.
Given his Maoism, he is the last to talk.
Regions were annexed by China with and without the consent of rulers and/or people. The most regrettable are the cases of East Turkestan (aka Xinjiang), Tibet and now Hong Kong. The Chinese Communist Party that took over from the Qing dynasty nursed the same expansionist vision for China as the earlier imperial rulers did.The International Federation of Journalists has routinely condemned the lack of media freedom in China.
If one wants to know what China had to offer for its neighbours, ask a Vietnamese, a Taiwanese, a Japanese or a Mongolian.
China imprisoned one million Muslim Uighurs in “reeducation camps.” These are veritable concentration camps. East Turkestan is the most heavily policed region in the world.
Sivasegaram will now respond with his predictable China Communist Party line – blah blah blah..That is best ignored as he sings to his unflushed commode. He has bile in him.
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SJ / August 16, 2019
My comment was in the context of hopes being built about a Hindutva India.
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The following should be adequate in this context: China was an empire for much of the last two millennia but ceased expanding since the Opium War.
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Native Vedda / August 17, 2019
SJ
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” China was an empire for much of the last two millennia but ceased expanding since the Opium War.”
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China is a peace loving country, a piece from Afghanistan, a piece from Pakistan, a pieces from India, Bhutan, Indonesia, Vietnam, Malaysia, Philippines, Japan, Brunei, Russia, Mongolia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, North Korea, …. a large piece of Tibet, …Taiwan, …………. Sri Lanka, …………. pieces from many African Countries, Antarctica, …. may be Moon, Mars, ……….space.
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All these outrageous claims are/were being made after China became a champion of working class people and theoretically stopped being an imperial power.
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Raman / August 17, 2019
Abdul,
You ought not believe everything about China that you see on CNN.
Media freedom? Look what it has got us with all those idiots on FB.
Do you think the West is perfect?
When the US sent it’s first man into space, it still had separate drinking fountains for blacks and whites.
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Agnos / August 17, 2019
SJ,
India should somehow pay for its perfidious role in first encouraging Tamil militancy and then allowing the mass slaughter in Mullivaikkal to happen.
But while being wary of Indian intentions, in the long run, SL Tamils should still seek to maintain good relationship with India. That is a delicate balancing act but the right leadership can pull it through.
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SJ / August 17, 2019
Agnos
I agree.
But the tragedy is that we have slavish supporters of India for leaders who will not even protest about illegal fishing by Indian trawlers that destroys local fishing.
Do we have a right leadership? We have right wing leaders.
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Panasonic / August 18, 2019
// India should somehow pay for its perfidious role in first encouraging Tamil militancy and then allowing the mass slaughter in Mullivaikkal to happen. //
Between those two events came the murder of their Prime Minister, have you forgotten?
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Agnos / August 18, 2019
Panasonic,
Firstly, at the time of his assassination, RG was not in power. He was in opposition, an ex-PM, and potentially a future PM, but not a sitting PM.
Secondly, while the assassination was a mindless act by the LTTE leadership, waiting for a couple of decades, and then supporting the slaughter of a large number of civilians along with the LTTE was hardly proportionate justice; they had their chances to take on the LTTE leadership without terrorizing civilians, but they chose not to pursue it. Indeed, it could be seen as another mindless act on India’s part, for which they ought to be held accountable.
Thirdly, have you forgotten how the IPKF indulged in murder, rape and other atrocities in the North-East? India simply has no moral high ground on these issues.
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Mama Sinhalam / August 16, 2019
Cooly Hooly crawls again. Now at the feet of the Indians. Anyone with potential for power are worthy of a crawl. Crawled before the Rajapakse , crawled before Wickremesinghe, now crawl before the new despot. We still have loads of parthenium weeds left by the IPKF in Jaffna to remind us of how many Tamils the IPKF killed. It would be a good thing to have an international airport in Jaffna but it does not mean that we have to go crawling around the Indians to achieve this. The Indians never do anything except to ensure that they are the regional hegemons. Their power-play sees the Tamils as a counterpoint in the event of the South becoming pro-Chinese. It would be an error to think that they are doing this out of love for the Tamils. The IPKF slaughtered Tamils. India assisted in the slaughter of Tamils at Mullivaikal. Let us not crawl too much.
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thamizh / August 16, 2019
Well said.
Hoole is just doing his poodle dance as usual, for whatever his selfish reasons.
There is really not much difference between the Indian and Sinhala Buddhist establishments as far as Tamils are concerned, where the former merely used Tamils as pawns to secure their interests in the region.
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Mallaiyuran / August 16, 2019
If Indian Hanuman Bridge is built Soma, Eagle and SB would the first ones to travel daily to TN for daytime jobs. Ranil is relenting little bit now to India because Saudi, within last five years, had cut of many labor fields to South Asians. Maini category still open is house work, for women only. SA unemployment is 15%. Ranil is looking for new place to send house maids, when even that is closed.
Grandma Theresa is already worried of lack toilets TN. Her hope is TN Tamils would soon built few so Negombo Fernandos and Pereras who came to peel Cinnamon on the process of looking for jobs can now go back to wash the toilets, there. Thank god, unlike North India, TN is secular state so the Portuguese last names don’t matter unlike the Tamil names suffering in Lankawe.
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Mallaiyuran / August 16, 2019
India’s action on Kashmir was only preparation to work on Lankawe. Mr. Modi wanted to have stabilized North, before dip too deep in South. After badly failed Sonia-Manmohan Singh’s Lankawe Policy, their consultant Shiv Shankar Menon said that India should be open minded of that other countries getting involved in Lankawe. Mr. Modi did not buy that consultation. He has his lane marking in Lankawe for China, US, Russia, Pakistan, Iran, OIC….
Draupadi told her husbands that whoever comes to her, into her room should leave their slippers outside her room so the other four Princes would know who was with her inside. She was considered a Pathini even though she married five princes, at the same life time. But bitchi Lankawe didn’t have any arrangements like that with her men. So there is a lot of friction among superpowers of who go first to Lankawe.
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / August 17, 2019
Mallaiyuran , what Modi did to Kashmir was correct and very brave and long sighted. Nehru wanted to this but did not have the guts to do it. What is called Jammu Kashmir had historically been four parts , with four ethnic groups who were native to their own part of this state. The ethnic Kashmiris now 90% Muslim and 10% Hindu, speaking Kashmiri, a Dardic language belonging to the Indo Aryan group. The Hindu Kashmiri Pandits were all chased away from their lands by the Muslims in the late 1980s and their lands and homes forcibly occupied . These people were the original people of Kashmir. They are Saivites. Kashmir was a strong bastion of Saivite Hinduism and there are many ancient Saivite Hindu centres of pilgrimage in Kashmir. Islam came to Kashmir in the 1500s through conquer and violence from Afghanistan. Afghan Muslims forcibly converted most of the population of Kashmir to Islam and destroyed their ancient Hindu culture and Islamic extremists are still doing it. You either had to convert or die. Most of the population choose conversion. The Kashmiri Hindus are the original people of Kashmir just like the Tamil Hindus are the original people of east Sri Lanka. Just like in Kashmir , where a converted Kashmiri/Afghan Muslim population is now claiming the entire state as theirs , this includes Hindu Jammu and Buddhist Ladakh ,to which they have no claim too, now a migrant fake Arab immigrant Dravidian South Indian converted Muslim population and Sinhalese population both recent arrivals , are trying to take over and claim the eastern Sri Lanka as theirs , using state resources , force and fake history. Despite native Hindu Tamils still owning most of the land and being the largest population.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus_of_Kashmiri_Hindus
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / August 17, 2019
The Jammu valley is predominantly populated by the native Hindu Dogras , a people closely related to the Punjabi and they speak Dogri, an Indo European language. Jammu has always been Hindu and is still predominantly Hindu. The Hindu Dogras make up 67% of the population , the rest are largely Punjabi Hindus who arrived here as refugees from west Punjab , during the partition. Kashmiri Hindu refugees. Some districts of Jammu have predominant Kashmiri Muslim population. The sparsely populated Ladak area is the largest and this area is ethnically Tibetan and predominantly Buddhist. You do get Kashmiri Muslims here but they are not native but immigrant settlers. 1/3 of the Kashmir including the ethnic Baltistan area is now part of Pakistan so called Azad( sic Azad or free indeed) Pakistan. All these areas were ruled by a Hindu Maharajah who took over these areas from it previous Sikh rulers. This is the reason all these four disparate areas Kashmir, Jammu, Ladakh and Baltistan came under one umbrella as the kingdom of Jammu & Kashmir that was ruled by a Hindu Maharajah and later, as the state of Jammu & Kashmir. The Hindu Doghra of Jammu and the Buddhist Tibetan of Ladakh had never wanted to be part of predominantly Muslim Kashmir or ruled by them , once the Hindu Maharajah’s rule ceased and they became part of India. They always have claimed that they are different people, native to their land, with a different religion, language and culture ,that had nothing to with the Muslims Kashmiri from the vale of Kashmir and were only ;imped together as one, as one Hindu king ruled them all. However now there is no need and to be one . The Hindu Kashmiris are ethnically the same as the Muslim Kashmiris and speak the same language Kashmiri but not them.
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / August 17, 2019
This why the BJP senior member wrote to Rajapakse in reply to his comment where he was openly boasting and stating about Kashmir, article 370 and justifying marginalisation of NE largely Hindu Tamils . He stated Sri Lanka was Saivite from ancient times and the so called Buddhist of Sri Lanka are the descendants of these converted Saivites( Tamils). Sri Lanka has two ancient indigenous people. The Buddhists ( Sinhalese ) down south and the Saivite Hindus( Tamils ) in the NE and these people have every right in their own lands and their rights have to be protected in their respective ancient lands. No other people in the island have any right to claim homelands in the island other than these two people. Kashmir is different , it not some ancient Islamic land. Islam only came here very recently by force and then the indigenous Hindu culture and people were systematically destroyed marginalised and forced to convert to Islam and this is still happening in the name of Islam . See the ethnic cleansing of the Kashmiri Hindus . They had to put a stop to this. Nothing against the people of Kashmir, their language , religion , culture or rights. The Rajafucksy became very quiet after this letter but I do not think his racist views have ceased. People are not idiots they know the real history of Sri Lanka and the actual origin of its people, despite the . Mahavamsa fable, Sinhalese Aryan and Muslim Arab/Moor claims. They know that the nearly everyone in the island are of Dravidian South India ancestry. If there is any Arab or Aryan it is very little.
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / August 17, 2019
ancient Hindu shrines of Kashmir
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amarnath_Temple
https://vedicfeed.com/ancient-hindu-temples-of-kashmir/
These have to be preserved just like the ancient Hindu temples in North and East of Sri Lanka , including the Kathirkamam and the five Ishvarams and not destroyed or converted to Buddhist sites, by Sinhalese Buddhist Fascists with the help of the Sinhalese state and the Archaeological department with their fake history and by fake Arab low caste converted South Indian immigrant Wahhabis, or by the Islamic extremists in Kashmir
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / August 17, 2019
When the article 370 was passed, 90% of the land in Jammu and Kashmir was owned by the Hindus and Muslims only owned around 10% of the land. Even most of the trade and commerce was in Hindu hands. The Hindus were the ruling land owning elite and the Muslims were largely the peasants. It was mainly aimed to protect the local Hindu Kashmiri landlords and their lands from large scale Punjabi encroachment, nothing to with protecting Muslim Kashmiri lands , as they hardly owned any land. Kashmiri Muslims only started to own lands on a large scale after the ethnic cleansing of Kashmiri Hindus and violence against them in the 1980s. Many Hindu lands , farms and homes were forcibly taken over by the Muslims and Hindus fleeing Kashmir sold their lands very cheaply to their Muslim neighbours. Very similar to the Tamil east, where the native Eelam Tamils owned most of the lands and these immigrant fake Arab Dravidian South Indian origin Muslims hardly owned any land and in lived in their Islamic enclaves and used to lease land from the Tamil landlords. it was only after the 1970s during the Srimavo /Baddudeen era . large scale marginalisation of the eastern Tamils began and is continuing and just like in Kashmir Hindu lands were forcibly taken with the Sinhalese state help and many Tamil Hindus sold their lands cheaply and fled Muslim harassment that was supported and encouraged by the Sinhalese state.
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Ranjith(SPRRW) / August 16, 2019
Initial human migration to India took place one or two million years ago from east coast of Africa. Their landing locations were south west coast of India & spread all our India.Few landed in south coast of This island as well. from here some migrated to Australia and beyond like Papua new genie. With climatic changes within Indian sub continent those initials migrant become human type called Austra- Asiatic . That migration continue & Mongolian type too came down to north part of Indian subcontinent as well. Descendants of those initial migrant still there in all over Indian sub-continent as Adivasin. Secondary Migration occurred around 15000 years ago from North part of Persia (Iran) and south part of Russia. Fully Pledged human with knowledge of farming & making tools. Third migration took place around 7 to 8 thousand years ago from Mediterranean sea area & south west Persia ( Iran) with same kind of knowledge & their own language called proto Dravidian. Second & Third migration did not effect Islands in South sea of Indian sub-continent. Our land too was the Island at that time & not effected at all. Second & Third migration occurred on land-rout & that humans had no knowledge on sea & had no Idea of getting any harvest from Sea. Both second & third migrants became very good farmers & exploited rain to their maximum advantage. We islanders had no issues with those people until they start expansionism. As such we have nothing to do with fucking Indians both north & south. Latter north helped us lot. Buddhism introduced here. supplied tooling to fight south expansionism. As such south Indians had been traditional historical enemies of ours.As such must be killed as & when sighted them. That is what written in our old history books. Tamils as well as Tamil Muslims.
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Jay H . Chambers II / August 17, 2019
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Did your own ancestors have long tails when they arrived from Africa?
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Maanvizhi / August 16, 2019
Thank you Professor. Hoole for bringing us so much happy news. Will the plane ticket become cheaper from Palali.
We have 1:10 girls to boys ratio among the Ceylon Tamils after the war. Worse than Germany after the wars. Maybe the very generous Indian consul in Jaffna can bring us some maappillais for our daughters and vice versa. All our educated maappillais have gone to Colombo to find jobs and marrying sinhalese girls. Tamil parents are too strict with their daughters. They collect dowry for the daughters in vain. All now lost. Sad life.
And we can purchase lots of Tamil books for the students and everybody. Thosai grinders and so many sweets.
God is at last turning his eyes to the Tamils in Sri Lanka.
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Maanvizhi / August 16, 2019
Correction
Not “We have 1:10 girls to boys ratio among the Ceylon Tamils after the war. Worse than Germany”
We have 1:boy to 10 girls ratio among the Ceylon Tamils after the war.
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SJ / August 16, 2019
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“We have 1:boy to 10 girls ratio among the Ceylon Tamils after the war.”
Where did you collect this from?
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KA / August 17, 2019
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shankar / August 16, 2019
why do you want to marry indians when there are sinhalese men who are feeling sorry for what tamils have suffered.Even army men are marrying tamil women.You say tamil men are marrying sinhalese women.Why is that?Maybe they feel sinhala women will suit them better.My friends who married sinhalese women are happy.
ps.Intermarriages between tamils and sinhalese should be encouraged by the elders of both communities as it will end the ethnic divide in a most natural manner.
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KA / August 16, 2019
And what those sorry feeling Singalese has done?
The thugs in uniform are eiher raping or having them as sexual slaves.
So, you are okay with Tamils being sucked into Chingalams.
Reginal Cooray?
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shankar / August 17, 2019
KA
maanvizhi states that tamil boys are coming to colombo for jobs and marrying sinhalese.I have personally seen many of those.One family was living near my mother;s with two cute children who wave at her daily.So what is wrong with tamil girls marrying sinhalese boys?Why does maanvizhie want them to go after indians who raped much more than the army in the short time they were here.
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Siva Sankaran Sharma / August 17, 2019
People can marry whom they want and that is their business but you and the Sinhalese state do not have to advocate these intermarriages and forced marriages of Tamils to Sinhalese as they feel they have no other way due to the present day poverty and hoplessness forced on them by the Sinhalese state. If you feel so strongly about this marry your children to Sinhalese , we will not to a people who committed genocide and us and still want to and loose our identity. Another Muttiah Muralidharan who is singing for his supper , so that his Sinhalese masters will feed him well?
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shankar / August 17, 2019
SSS
wiggie’s children are married to sinhalese.He has not let down the tamils by singing for his supper.You brahmins still have a superiorty complex though now your girls are even marrying muslims and becoming muslim.I personally know of such instances in the west.View people as humans.Fight for injustice,but don’t become a racist.murali is not a racist though his father lost his biscuit business during 83 riots.Your mind is polluted and you need to clean it up.Minds also get dirty just like the rooms in a house or the clothes we wear.We need a cleanup.
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Andare 2.0 / August 16, 2019
Look how India is treating Kashmir now. Arresting dozens of people, Blocking roads, Cutting phone lines, deploying troops. Who’s gonna stop them ? Nobody. Modi is not going to take BS from anybody. Our clownish leaders couldn’t stand for our military internationally. India have leaders we have jokers.
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Native Vedda / August 17, 2019
Andare 2.0
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Size does not matter whether it is 2.00 or 7.00, start worrying about the quality.
What is new in Kashmir or for that matter in that region where Sri Lanka also the pioneers of everything you have mentioned above.
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Hindians directed the war in Sri Lanka with huge support from 30 odd countries. Hindians didn’t need to take s**t from any dissenting voices, because there was none including Hindia.
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“Our clownish leaders couldn’t stand for our military internationally. India have leaders we have jokers.”
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Could you explain as this sounds like a piece of run of the mill stupid rhetoric.
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Andare 2.0 / August 17, 2019
International community didn’t help us end the war at all. To the contrary they did everything to save Prabakaran. In the closing days of the war they even send a ship to rescue Prabakaran and his cronies. They cutoff GSP+. They are accusing us of war crimes. What kind of help is that ? Probably they had other plans too like sending a peace keeping army. In the case of India their worthless army once tried to capture Prabakaran but failed miserably. So how can they help us ? The war was fought against the so called international community as well not just the LTTE.
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Native Vedda / August 17, 2019
Andare 2.0
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Size does not matter whether it is 2.00 or 7.00, start worrying about the quality.
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“International community didn’t help us end the war at all. “
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True. In fact they fought the war for this stupid island.
This was stated on the record by Mahinda and Gota.
Please stop moaning and open your eyes or pull your head from wherever it is now.
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John / August 17, 2019
Malayalee-Malaysian Chelvanayagam was a bastard who should have been held responsible for deaths of thousands of Sinhalese. He sabotaged the reunification of Tamils with genuine Tamils of Tamil Nadu.
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Palali airport should be named as”King Dutu-Gemunu Airport”.
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Pandi Kutti / August 17, 2019
You should be sent to the lunatic asylum and your home renamed as ” Visaran Illam”
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Ranjith(SPRRW) / August 17, 2019
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