23 September, 2020

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Scotland Poised To Become An Independent State After September 18 Referendum

By Veluppillai Thangavelu

Veluppillai Thangavelu

Veluppillai Thangavelu

The make or break referendum in Scotland is just a few days away. People of Scotland will vote on September 18 to decide whether to stay part of the United Kingdom or break the 307 years long union. Why the Scots did waited this long, almost three centuries, to conduct a referendum for separation?

Recent opinion polls suggest the referendum race is neck and neck.  There are four million voters – which for the first time will include 16- and 17-year-olds – to be asked a single question: “Should Scotland become an independent country?”

Previous opinion polls showed support for independence at between 25% and 35%. This week’s polls put the Yes at 51% and No at 49% thus a narrow lead in favour of independence.

Even after the Act of Union of 1707, Scotland continued to keep its distinct identity differently from the rest of Britain. It maintained its own separate education system, law and justice systems, and church and sports teams. But until the vote to set up a devolved government for Scotland in 1997, all major decisions were made  by the Westminster parliament in London.

A referendum in 1979 on a devolved Scottish assembly garnered 51.6% of votes in favour, but the vote was defeated on a technicality: the low turnout meant those voting in favour constituted only 32.9% of the electorate, below the 40% bench mark.  Many Yes supporters felt cheated, however, this time around there is no turnout requirement.  A simple majority of 50%+ will carry the day.

Scottish people tend to dislike rightwing parties; the ruling Conservative party has only one Conservative Member in the current Westminster parliament. When Margaret Thatcher was Prime Minister she imposed a deeply unpopular poll tax in Scotland that led to riots. It was left to the current Tory leader, David Cameron to offer an apology to the people of Scotland in 2006. Yet, the Conservative Party remains deeply unpopular in Scotland.

The election of Tony Blair’s New Labour party in 1997 initiated change. The Scottish devolution referendum of 1997 was a pre-legislative referendum held in Scotland on  September 11, 1997 over whether there was support for the creation of a Scottish Parliament with devolved powers, and whether the Parliament should have tax-varying powers. The referendum was a Labour manifesto commitment and was held in their first term after the 1997 election. This was the second referendum held in Scotland over the question of devolution, the first being in 1979. Turnout for the referendum was 60.4%. The prime minister confidently predicting the result would cement the union, not encourage further cracks.

ScotlandHowever, calls for more powers have grown and following an electoral wipe-out of centrist Liberal Democrats in Scotland’s 2011 parliamentary elections the stage was set for the Scottish National Party (SNP) government committed to a referendum on a decisive break with the United Kingdom.

Not surprisingly all the major parties in   Britain and based in London are opposed to the referendum. The leaders of  all the three parties, British Prime Minister David Cameron, Labour Party leader Ed Miliband and Liberal Democratic chief Nick Clegg have taken time off to descend in Scotland last Wednesday to campaign not jointly but separately against the Yes side. In a show of cross-party unity, they pulled out of the weekly House of Commons question session to make a dash to Scotland. They are pleading for a united United Kingdom amidst polls suggesting once fanciful notion of Scots voting to break from Britain a real possibility. The three parities are campaigning for a No vote under the umbrella of Better Together.

Alex Salmond, leader of the SNP said the London based politicians were only in Scotland because “they are panicking” and predicted their visit will help his “Yes” campaign.

More than any others Prime Minister David Cameron are worried about the outcome of the referendum. He said Scottish independence would break his heart. “We desperately want you to stay; we do not want this family of nations to be ripped apart,” Cameron wrote in a column published in the Daily Mail. Naturally he does not wish to go down in history as the last Prime Minister of Great Britain. In an act best described as a sign of desperation, Cameron ordered the blue and white Scottish flag to be flown at No.10 Downing Street his official residence.

Amid the Yes campaign’s lead in the polls, the British Chancellor, George Osborne, pledged greater devolution of powers if Scots vote to stay within the union, promising “much greater” fiscal autonomy and tax raising powers. Scots would have “the best of both worlds”, Osborne promised, speaking on The Andrew Marr Show. An agreement reached by the three parties promises greater income tax-raising powers, the potential devolution of control over housing benefit, the work programme and other taxes, including air passenger duty and capital gains tax.

The lead campaigners for independence are the SNP, with its charismatic leader Alex Salmond and his deputy, Nicola Sturgeon, the most recognisable faces for many voters. The Scottish Green party, a smaller group that has two representatives in the Holyrood parliament, also backs yes. The Yes campaign is not on party lines, yet SNP supporters are heavily involved in it.

At this point it is worth recapitulating the history Scotland and England before their union more than three centuries ago.

During the ice age Scotland was uninhabited. However,  when the ice melted forests spread across Scotland and Stone Age hunters moved there. By 6,000 BC small groups of people lived in Scotland by hunting animals like red deer and seals and by gathering plants for food.

Then about 4,500 BC farming was introduced into Scotland. The early farmers continued to use stone tools and weapons and this period is called the Neolithic (new stone age). The Neolithic people used stone axes or fire to clear forests for farming and they grew wheat, barley and rye. They also bred cattle and sheep. They lived in simple stone huts with roofs of turf or thatch.

By 1,800 BC people in Scotland had learned to make bronze. The Bronze Age people continued to live in simple huts but they are famous for their stone monuments. They arranged huge stones in circles. The fact that they were able to do so indicates they lived in an organised society.

The recorded history of Scotland begins with the expansion of the Roman Empire in Britain when the Romans occupied what are now broadly England, Wales and Scotland administering it as a Roman province called Britannia. They were, however, unable to subdue the fierce tribes in the north. A massive wall was built across the island from sea to sea on demand by the Emperor Hadrian to keep these tribes from invading Britannia. Parts of this Hadrian’s Wall still stand on the Scottish border today.

The Normans conquered England in 1066, after which many Anglo-Saxons from England settled in the Lowlands of Scotland. This is when the Scots gradually adopted the English ways. Feudalism was established and the chiefs of the clans became nobles. Scottish towns began to grow, trade was increased and Scotland thrived.

In the year 1290, the heiress to the throne, Margaret, died. Sir Edward I of England claimed the right to bestow the Crown and made John de Baliol the king. When Edward sought help from John against the French, John entered into an alliance with France. This was the beginning of the 260 years that Scotland held to this so-called ‘auld alliance’ with England’s enemy.

Edward crossed the Scottish border in the year 1296, took John prisoner and proclaimed himself the King of Scotland. The Scots weren’t very impressed with the change and they rose again. They were led by Sir William Wallace. Under his leadership they managed to route the English at the Stirling Bridge in 1297 and pursued them across the border. Edward returned the following year and inflicted a disastrous defeat on the Scots at Falkirk. Wallace was imprisoned and was brutally executed.

Robert the Bruce followed in Wallace’s foot steps and fought against the English in 1314 at Bannockburn near Stirling Castle. Only in 1328 did Edward III formally recognize Scotland’s independence.

After that, James IV of Scotland married Margaret the daughter of Henry VII of England in 1503. When he died the throne went to his baby daughter, Mary Stuart.

Mary was driven out by John Knox who was a follower of John Calvin, one of the leaders of the reformation. Mary returned to Scotland, however, in the year 1561, but was captured and imprisoned. She escaped and fled to England, where Queen Elizabeth I captured her and executed her.

Mary’s son, James VI, was brought up as a Presbyterian and took over the throne of Queen Elizabeth when she died. Scotland and England were united under one single king; however, Scotland remained a separate state with its own parliament and government.

The age-old rivalry between Scotland and England ended formally in 1707 when the parliaments of both nations agreed to the Act of Union. This act merged the parliaments of the two nations and established the Kingdom of Great Britain. Eventually a new Scottish parliament was established in Edinburgh to oversee the territory of Scotland.

In the 20th Century Scotland suffered very high unemployment during the 1920s and 1930s. Traditional industries such as shipbuilding, mining, iron and steel were badly affected by depression. The Second World War brought a return to full employment and the 1950s and 1960s were years of prosperity. However recession returned in the early 1980s and early 1990s.

Nevertheless new hi-tech and service industries grew up in Scotland in the late 20th century to replace the old manufacturing ones and in 1990 Glasgow was made the Cultural Capital of Europe.

During the 20th century there was a growing nationalist movement in Scotland. The National Party of Scotland was formed in 1928. In 1934 it changed its name to the Scottish National Party. The first SNP MP was elected in 1945. In 1974 11 SNP MPs were elected. Finally in 1999 Scotland gained its own parliament. In 2011 the Scottish Nationalist Party won a majority in the Scottish Parliament. Today the population of Scotland is 5.2 million.

The former Kingdom of Scotland (until 1603) is today one of the four constituent nations which form the United Kingdom, it occupies the northern third of the island of Great Britain. The nation shares a land border to the south with England and is bounded by seas and oceans on all other sides. The country consists of a mainland area plus several island groups, including Shetland, Orkney, and the Hebrides. The following is an overview of Scotland:

•Status                             –     Semi-autonomous part of the United Kingdom

•Population                        –    5.2 million (2001 census) Ceylon 20.33 million (2011 census)

•Capital                             –     Edinburgh

•Area                                 –    78,772 km² (30,414 sq miles) Ceylon 65,610 sq km (25,332 sq mi)

•Languages                      –     English, Gaelic

•Major religion                  –     Christianity

•Monetary unit                  –     1 pound sterling = 100 pence

•Main exports                   –      Food/drink, chemicals/petroleum products

•Border country                –     England

•Related countries            –     United Kingdom

•Countries in the region    –     Faroe Islands, Iceland, Ireland, Denmark, Norway

If there is one country that is extremely worried about the outcome of the Scottish referendum that country is Canada. Canada fears a successful referendum in favour of independence might once again fuel Party Quebecor’s demand for separation. Prime Minister Stephen Harper and Foreign Minister John Baird have made statements throwing their weight behind Britain. “We think the United Kingdom is better united as they built one of the greatest societies of the world” said Baird in an interview with CTV’s Don Martin this week. Help also came from former Bank of Canada governor who now leads the Bank of England. He discounted any possibility of Scottish nationalists’ vow to keep the UK pound in an independent Scotland.

Another country which is concerned about the Scottish referendum is Spain. Separatists in North-eastern Spain are demanding ‘independencies’ for Catalan. Catalonia regional leader Artur Mas said his government is not wavering from plans to hold a November 09 referendum in the region of 7.6 million people, even though experts say any attempt is sure to be blocked by Spain’s constitutional court.

Independence to Scotland will not be painless. Scottish people have to pay a price. Scotland would be saddled with £143 billion of debt after independence and forced to make deeper spending cuts. Extra North Sea oil revenues would only cover a third of that shortfall and leave Holyrood paying billions of pounds in “IOUs” to Westminster for debt interest payments, according to the National Institute of Economic and Social Research (NIESR). They also said that sharing the pound after independence would leave Scotland “hostage to fortune” and cause borrowing costs to increase, potentially affecting savers through a spike in mortgage payments.  It paints a picture of an independent Scotland with higher taxes and lower spending than that outlined by Westminster.

Oil and gas funds between 2019 and 2041 would account for only about one third of Scotland’s inherited share of UK public debt, it said, noting that the rest of the UK’s debt burden would also increase. Scotland would have to renegotiate its entry to both NATO and the European Union.

Yet Scottish people might decide that it is worth paying the price for since independence will put Scotland’s future in Scotland’s hands. Countries which have broken away from union with overweening neighbours – in recent times, Slovakia from Czechoslovakia, the Baltic States from the Soviet Union reported an improved national culture, one able to be truly national and thus more self confident in their relationships with the outside world. There are counter examples – the two Slav states of Ukraine and Belarus have done badly, democratically and economically, after leaving USSR.  Pakistan has not found any kind of stability after separating from India. But in a rich country with no hostile neighbours, Scotland bids fair to feel the national blood pulse faster.

Ultimately, it boils down to the question whether man lives by bread alone. If people are asked to choose between bread and freedom, they will choose freedom. History is replete with numerous examples of people choosing freedom over bread. When the Soviet Union disintegrated in the early nineties all constituent states declared independence. Not one single state opted to remain with the USSR. Poland became the first Warsaw Pact state country to break free of Soviet domination.

In a similar fashion Yugoslavia broke up into Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Kosovo, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia and Slovenia. Another example is   Czechoslovakia that got dissolved on January 01, 1993 into Czech Republic and Slovak Socialist Republic. It is sometimes called   the Velvet Divorce, a reference to the bloodless Velvet Revolution of 1989 that led to the end of the rule of the Communist Party of Czechoslovakia and the formation of a democratic government. All these states became independent under the principle of right of self-determination of people. Universal recognition of the inalienable right to self-determination was the most effective way the global community could guarantee protection of fundamental freedoms.

The  creation new nation states resulted in  increase in the  membership in the UNO  which rose from   51  founding members  in 1945   to  80 in 1956,  104 in 1961,  138  in 1971, 144 in 1975,  147 in 1976,  179 in 1992, 184  193 and  193 today.  The last to join the committee of nations is South Sudan in July 2011 after voting in a UN supervised referendum.

The era of the old-fashioned nation-states is over. It is time for a world of self-determined peoples. The creation of more states based on the principle of national right of self-determination brings freedom, sovereignty, equality, self-respect, dignity and ultimately peace.

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    Scotland had their own culture, language etc., etc. until english destroyed it. They did not come from the Neigbouring France or Spain and tried to establish a colony in england.

    that is what Peelamists are trying to do.

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      Jim softy

      “They did not come from the Neigbouring France or Spain and tried to establish a colony in england.”

      Good point. I had to agree with you.

      We want our land back. When are you going back? When you go make sure you take your Tamil brethren with you. Hope Lankies and Peelamists oblige.

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        Vedda is just one tribe of Sri Lanka’s indigenous people. There are others known as Yaksha, Naga, Raksha, Deva. Ancient Sinhalaya are a mixture of Wijaya’s clan and all of them. So-called Native is a kallathoni from the East. He has no relation to Vanniyale Atto. Ask him he’ll confirm it. Post a picture to disprove it native.

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          mechanic

          I am happy you are turning into another bogus anthropologist after being a sidekick to OTC and Banda.

          There was no ancient Sinhalaya. There was no Sinhala language. There was no man/lion race. There were no Yaksha,Raksha, and Deva.

          The Sinhala/Buddhists has had this ability to write stories however no one is buying it except the Sinhala/Buddhists.

          Please check your DNA, you would find 76% of your gene come from your Tamilnadu brethren. I know it is difficult to accept but it is science based and not out of your origin myth.

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            Native,

            There is plenty of evidence of Yaksha/Yakka and Naga people in Sri Lanka. Paul E Pieris described Naga settlements from his archaeological studies in the early 20th century. The Naga people also had kingdoms in India, but had settlement in Kelaniya and the Jaffna peninsula. The Yaksha heritage of Sinhalese are found in customs (such as “devil dancing masks”) and names – common suffix of “yake” or “yaka” in Sinhalese surnames. These names (Yakka and Naga) might also be described as totems.

            The DNA evidence does not support your claim that the Sinhalese are more closely related to people in Tamil Nadu than to anyone else. There was also a genetic input from the Veddhas, the Nagas and the Yakshas as well as from North India, Malaysia and Indonesia, as well as Pakistan and Persia. After all, Madagascar, off the east coast of Africa was colonized by Indonesians two thousand years ago. Sri Lanka has had genetic input from all directions. There are many unanswered questions about the genealogy of the Sri Lankan “races”, though it has been found that Sinhalese and Tamil Sri Lankans are more closely related than either race to South (or North) Indians.

            If you go back far enough in time we are all migrants from Africa. The Veddhas too migrated to Sri Lanka from India. After all India and Sri Lanka were still connected by a land bridge long after the first documented people in the island.

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            NV:-
            “Please check your DNA, you would find 76% of your gene come from your Tamilnadu brethren. I know it is difficult to accept but it is science based and not out of your origin myth.”

            Even you, Native Veddah like all of us, will find that your Genome contains DNA from the original African Ancestor of all Humans!

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          Mechanic,

          Latest historical research shows that there had NEVER been any such tribes in Sri Lanka by the names Yaksha, Naga, Raksha, Deva during the ancient period. These were all just made up stories adopted from the Northern Indian Indo-Aryan Myth. If you read the Indian epics you will find all these and more tribes from North India. The monks who wrote the Mahavamsa had done a copy and paste job from the Mahabaratha and other Indian mythology. So far there is no evidence what so ever to prove that such tribes (Yaksha, Naga, Raksha, Deva) existed in Sri Lanka other than in the historical fiction known as Mahavamsa written by a Buddhist monk for the serene joy of the people.

          Aboriginal Veddhas were the only native tribe found in Sri Lanka. All others came from outside and the best part is, Sinhala DNA is much more closer to the Tamil Nadu Tamils than the Sri Lankan Tamil DNA. The majority of the Sinhalese were converts (originally Tamils who came from time to time and settled in Southern Sri Lanka and got naturalized).

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      Veluppillai Thangavelu –

      “The make or break referendum in Scotland is just a few days away. People of Scotland will vote on September 18 to decide whether to stay part of the United Kingdom or break the 307 years long union. Why the Scots did waited this long, almost three centuries, to conduct a referendum for separation?”

      The Scottish people are the Natives of Scotland, before the Para- Anglo-Sextons arrived. Likewise, the Native Veddah Aethho are the Natoves of Lanka, the Land of Native Veddah. The Para-Sinhala and para-Tamils are Pars from South India.

      If the para-Sinhala can have a Para-Sinhala, state in the South, why not have a Para-Tamil state in the North? Where does it leaver the Native Veddah Aethho?

      Para-Sinhala and para-Tamils, please go to South India and go where you came from.

      Scotland

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland

      “Groups of settlers began building the first known permanent houses on Scottish soil around 9,500 years ago, and the first villages around 6,000 years ago. The well-preserved village of Skara Brae on the mainland of Orkney dates from this period. Neolithic habitation, burial and ritual sites are particularly common and well preserved in the Northern Isles and Western Isles, where a lack of trees led to most structures being built of local stone.[34]”

      “he discovery in Scotland of a 4000-year-old tomb with burial treasures at Forteviot, near Perth, the capital of a Pictish Kingdom in the 8th and 9th centuries AD, is unrivalled anywhere in Britain. It contains the remains of an early Bronze Age ruler laid out on white quartz pebbles and birch bark. It was also discovered for the first time early Bronze Age people placed flowers in their graves.[35][36]”

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      Jim Softy, Lorenzo, et al.

      “Scotland had their own culture, language etc., etc. until english destroyed it. They did not come from the Neigbouring France or Spain and tried to establish a colony in england.”

      Native Veddah Aethho had their own culture, language etc., etc. untilthe Paras, Para-Sinhala ands Para-Tamils destroyed it. They did not come from the Neigbouring South India. East india or Bihar tried to establish a colony in India.

      The Paras in Lanka, the Land of Native Veddah Aethho, please go back.

      The Vedda Tribe

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f89NuukY32U

      Tamil-speaking Veddas of Vaharai await war recovery support

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeFCuZwexRw

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      Jim softy,

      Goraka said in another post the Following. But it was not the Scots who started WW1 and WW2 even though they were “Christians”.

      Even though English did carry out atrocities against the Scotts, the Scotts in turn did participate in atrocities against other, the “non-Christians” with the English.

      Goraka said “I liked the answer of this German Muslim scholar when he was asked about terrorism and Islam: “

      He said :

      Who started the first world war ? Muslims ? ( Ans. Christians)

      Who started the second world war ? Muslims ? ( Ans. Christians)

      Who killed about 20 millions of Aborigines in Australia ? Muslims ? ( Ans. Christians)

      Who sent the nuclear bombs of Hiroshima and Nagasaki ? Muslims ? ( Ans. Christians)

      Who killed more than 100 millions of Indians in North America ? Muslims ? ( Ans. Christians)

      Who killed more than 50 millions of Indians in south America ? Muslims ? ( Ans. Christians)

      Who took about 180 millions of African people as slaves and 88% of them died and was thrown in Atlantic ocean ? Muslims ? ( Ans. Christians)

      No, They weren’t Muslims!!!

      First of all, You have to define terrorism properly… If a non-Muslim does something bad it is “Crime” but if a Muslim does the same he is “Terrorist” so first “Remove this double standard then come to the point!!!”

      The German did not go far enough.

      Who started the Crusades? Muslims? Ans Christians.

      Who Killed 20 million Chinese and Koreans? Muslims? Japanese “Buddhists”

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    With that high price Scotland has to pay for independence from Britian, I wonder if it all one big bluff so David Cameron can get to Sri Lanka! What a crook! Mark my words : the referendum will be a 20:80 in favor the family of nations. Anyway, they do not have a gigantic Scotland-Nadu in the North to swamp England.

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      Why would David Cameron want to get to Sri Lanka ? ONLY some ‘Christian’ Tamils think of him as a god.

      Irony of ironies. Cameron himself a Scotsman, does NOT want Scottish independence, but is gung-ho about balkanising other states by force.

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        ~ Sorry, Camaron wants to GET Sri Lanka (as it is well known)…..as a Scots, he already knows what the general outcome of the referendum will be (in favor of a united Britain), and so the whole thing is one huge sham.

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        Ramu

        “Irony of ironies. Cameron himself a Scotsman, does NOT want Scottish independence, but is gung-ho about balkanising other states by force.”

        Please tell us:

        How Scottish is David Cameron?

        By Ed Lowther

        Political reporter, BBC News

        7 February 2014 Last updated at 18:42

        David Cameron has made his biggest intervention yet in the Scottish referendum debate, speaking of his pride in his Caledonian ancestry. But how Scottish is he?

        “The ties of blood grow thicker,” the prime minister said in 2012, evoking the UK’s intertwined lineage.

        “I am a classic case. My father’s father was a Cameron, my mother’s mother was a Llewellyn. I was born and have always lived in England.”

        There is a hint of Scotland amid the Welsh stock on his mother’s side of the family: his mother’s father’s mother’s father’s father was from Fife.

        But he could have traced his Scottishness back farther than his father’s father on the other side of the family, and on Friday he returned to the theme and upped the ante.

        “My surname goes back to the West Highlands,” he said, in a speech at the Olympic Park, in East London.

        “The name Cameron might mean ‘crooked nose’ but the clan motto is ‘Let us unite’, and that is exactly what we in these islands have done.”

        ‘Torn apart’
        The Conservative MP for Witney is sometimes portrayed by critics as the archetypal upper crust Englishman – a product of Oxford University, Eton and true blue Middle England.

        In his speech, he revealed that he had defied aides warning him that his advocacy of the status quo in the independence debate might weaken rather than bolster his case.

        Scotland’s Deputy First Minister, Nicola Sturgeon described the “Tory prime minister” as “the very embodiment of the democratic case for a Yes vote for an independent Scotland”.

        But the PM said he cared “far too much” about preventing the UK from being “torn apart” to stay out of the debate. “I am as proud of my Scottish heritage as I am of my English heritage,” he added.

        The chief of Clan Cameron, Donald Cameron of Locheil, told BBC News: “We are very proud to claim David Cameron as a member of the clan.”

        He had met the prime minister “a couple of times” and he was “very nice”, he confided, before declining to say whether he would vote for or against independence: as Lord Lieutenant of Invernesshire, the Queen’s representative, he is not allowed to get involved in politics.

        The Cameron clan took part in the Jacobite uprising of 1715, against the Act of Union.

        “We let our hearts rule our heads,” said Donald Cameron of his clan’s characteristics. “Cameron is an anagram of romance”.

        David Cameron was born in London, spending the first three years of his life in Kensington and Chelsea before the family moved to an old rectory near Newbury, in Berkshire. But his Scottish roots are well-documented.

        ‘Strong links’
        His great-great grandfather, Alexander Geddes, had travelled to Chicago and made a fortune as a grain trader, before returning to his native Scotland and building a grand country pile in Huntly, Aberdeenshire in the 1880s.

        Mr Geddes’s sons died in the First World War, but his daughter Rachel married Ewen Allan Cameron, eventually bequeathing the PM his clan membership.

        Mr Cameron might also have been heir to Blairmore House, which remained in the family until the 1930s, but it was sold shortly after his father Ian Donald Cameron was born.

        It had, by then, been home to four generations of the PM’s forebears. The estate went on to house a primary school and is now the site of a Christian retreat.

        “Mr Cameron’s links with Huntly are strong – although he has yet to visit the town,” said the Aberdeen Evening Express in 2010.

        “We’ve never seen him round here,” a resident told the Aberdeen Press and Journal in 2005.

        “I could have sworn he was from London. Good luck to him, though. I’ll be telling everybody he’s from Huntly now – though I don’t know if it will make them any more likely to vote for him.”

        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26082372

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      It is the British who committed the major crime by uniting the Tamil North (formerly Jaffna Kingdom) and the Sinhala South (formally Kotte & Kandy kingdoms) into one unitary state and giving the whole country to the Sinhalese (only) in 1948.

      Therefore, it is the duty of the British (not India or US) to come forward and initiate a referendum for the North & East Tamils in Sri Lanka and abroad to exercise their right of self-determination enshrined in International Law by establishing a separate state for the Sri Lankan Tamils.

      The SL Tamil leaders including the Diaspora should keep reminding the British government over and over about the mistake they did in 1948 (the main reason for the Tamil problem) and request them to come forward and remedy it by calling for a referendum for the North & East Tamils in Sri Lanka.

      Weather it is by hook or crook David Cameron is doing the right thing, next he should help the SL Tamils to do the same and remedy the biggest mistake the British did in the past.

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      RTF,

      What the ‘Fernandos’ who adopted the Portuguese surname to hide their Thoothukudy identity has forgotten is that it the same gigantic Tamil-Nadu that helped the Sinhala race to become the majority in Sri Lanka by assimilating all the recent migrants from Thoothukudy into the Sinhala Karawa and Durawa castes.

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        Parava (in Tamil) or Karava (in Sinhala) is a caste in South India that in ancient times were coastal fishermen. Historically, they were involved in sea-related activities such as pearl diving, fishing, navigation, boatbuilding and the making of salt and dry fish.

        They were also described as ferocious soldiers. Sarath Fonseka is a good example. There are many theories as to their origins but they have since ancient times been recorded in the area of Tamil Nadu and Kerala. They were brought to Sri Lanka as fishermen and soldiers. During the Portuguese period, most of them abandoned their native Tamil/Malayalam names and adopted the Portuguese surnames such as Fernando, Silva, Fonseka, Peiris and so on.

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          The best joke is, the people who swamp Sri Lanka in the past from gigantic Tamil-Nadu (the Fernandos)are worried more than others.

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    Scotland = Tamil Nadu.

    Tamil Nadu has 90% of world Tamil population and all Tamil songs and cultural stuff are produced only in Tamil Nadu.

    We have to help Tamil Nadu get their independence from India. Then all Tamils in SL can go to the Tamil country Tamil Nadu. No reason to live in SL. Then Jayalalitha can finally become the prime minister.

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      Weera Pandiya Katta Boman is the Tamil epic hero.

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        mechanic

        “Weera Pandiya Katta Boman is the Tamil epic hero.”

        Please tell us about his story?

        It seems Tamilnadu Tamils do have their own share of myth and creative writing just like their Sinhala/Buddhist brethren.

        Most of the Tamilnadu heroes were cattle rustlers.

        Was he the Tamilnadu equivalent of Utuwankande Sura Saradiel? Perhaps they were genetically related.

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        Wrong spellings Mechanic.

        It is Veera Punddai.

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    The trend worldwide is for nations to be free and independent. That does not necessarily imply increased enmity or animosity. They can still have unifying associations to serve and promote common interests. It all depends on how culturally matured, the people are. Though the leaders in England are peacefully campaigning against the Scott’s going free, there is hardly any ill will or animosity shown against the Scottish people for their exercising a basic right! That is civilisation!

    Sengodan. M

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    CAN’T WAIT FOR THE DAY OF THE SCOTTISH REFFERENDUM.
    The Natu David Cameron the voice fericious U.K. or England Prime Minister who suffered a hysterical bout during the Commonwealth Conference held in Sri Lanka, goes to Scotland with a broken heart and his tail between his legs begging for unity.

    GOSL must help Scotland to get their Independence so that the Diaspora & LTTE’ers need not return to Sri Lanka as they could establish their Eelam with Cameron in England & leave us Tamils in peace.

    Emmanuel can be the Pope of the Church Velu Baby in England.
    Oh ! forgot. We can export Rayappu and host of other Tamil & other Priest, Clergy, religious and Nuns who signed for the resolution brought by the USA.

    TNA & ITAK can be formed in England.
    Viggie can be the mayor of London.

    Leave the North to us & let therfe be peace in Sri Lanka.

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    The LTTE brigade used to point to Scotland as a good example of devolution of power. Devolution leads to separation.

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      Devolution = Devil-ution = Se-para-tism

      Scotland had its own parliament until now!

      Obvious recipe for disaster.

      SL’s NOC and EPC are similar problems.

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    Mr Thangavelu

    Most of the comments written here are by your one time good friend, ex-Pilot, who lives in the US.

    He is JACK OF NO TRADE AND MASTER OF JEALOUSY.

    Ask Usha Sriskantharajah, she will tell you

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      Tigers must have the same fate as dogs! :)

      nan dé hú tu –

      Where ignorance is bliss,

      it’s folly to be wise.!

      ài wū jí wū –

      Love me ,love my dog.

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    The hidden hand in Scottish politics is the Freemasons. The Masons have controlled things behind the scenes since the 1700s, when there was still cargo slavery of Africans and before the ‘discovery’ of Australia by Captain Cook. The Scottish Rite was exported to Australia and North America where it found root in Canadian and US politics and business, as well as in the military. police and judiciary. It also influenced academic positions in the universities and positions in the British civil service.

    The Masons also played a founding role in the union movement, with domination of both the Left and Right wings of the British parliament and that of other white colonies such as Australia and Canada. A network of Masonic Lodges was established throughout the British Empire where men of power and those aspiring to it could meet and discuss things.

    The power of the Masonic Empire grew during the years of Winston Churchill, when the British Kings George V and VI headed the Masonic Order. This was, of course, World War I and World War II, during which the Masonic Brotherhood swelled with returned soldiers. It was also the heyday of the racist eugenics movement and Churchill was an ardent eugenicist as well as a senior Freemason. Masonry has been in decline since the Vietnam War, and support for Scottish independence may be a reflection of weakening of Masonic power.

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    VT,

    I see your first name is Velupillai. Now, wasn’t there some other fellow by that name? Maybe, there’s something about that name that induces day dreams, for how else would you believe that the Scots will vote to leave Great Britain? They are too canny to do some silly thing like that.

    BTW I, remember old SWRD on the occasion of a dinner he hosted for the visiting British PM, Harold Macmillan, in the 50s, mentioning in lighter vein, a story he had recently heard of a delegation of Scotsmen who had visited a famous Scottish Lord to ask him to lead a delegation to press for Scottish independence. Well, the famous man had given them a courteous hearing, walked up and down while he considered their request and then said to them, ‘But, my dear fellows, if we Scotsmen get independence, who will rule the English?’

    Ah, well. Come to think of it, Cameron the surname of the British PM, is not exactly English, is it?

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    Devolution does not lead to separation. Inadequate devolution like in Scotland does. Quebec people have twice in 1980 and 1995 rejected separation since they enjoy near independence status. They have their own parliament, judiciary, Immigration, powers over land, separate flag etc. In fact everything except foreign affairs, currency, passports and defence. In fact they are enjoying the best of both the worlds. Full autonomy instead of full independence. The constitution of Canada recognizes both English and French as official languages. Official bilingualism is the term used in Canada to collectively describe the policies, constitutional provisions, and laws which ensure the legal equality of English and French in the Parliament and courts of Canada, protect the linguistic rights of English and French-speaking minorities in different provinces, and ensure a level of government services in both languages across Canada . But Quebec has declared itself officially unilingual (French only). Moreover Quebecois can separate if a clear majority vote on a clear question in a referendum. In contrast in Sri Lanka a myopic Sinhala- Buddhist dominated government is placing road blocks for the Northern Provincial Council to exercise even meagre and inadequate devolution of powers under 13A.

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      Quebec couldn’t do more to make an English speaker more unwelcome. Even the Tourist Office does not provide any literature in English. NO. No. No.

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    The writer Veluppillai Thangavelu is the head of TNA Branch in Canada. So a comment such as the following is likely to be interpreted by opponents as reflecting the views of TNA.

    “The creation of more states based on the principle of national right of self-determination brings freedom, sovereignty, equality, self-respect, dignity and ultimately peace.”

    While Mr. Thangavelu is entitled to express his personal opinion, no attempt was made by him to delinetate his personal opinions from that of TNA’s publically stated stance and the position he currently holds.

    TNA has already made it clear that it is NOT seeking to divide SL and instead is seeking maximum autonomy within an undivided state. It is this stance the TNA reinterated to PM Modi during their recent visit. Further the TNA leadership recently made comments to the effect that GoSL has sewn distrust among the sinhalese about TNA’s position and that they will soon be engaging with the Sinhala public to clarify its stance and negate GoSL’s propaganda. It appears that TNA first has to bring its own people into line with their stated stance before thinking about educating others.

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