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Some Conclusions On Tamil Casteist Racism

By Izeth Hussain

Izeth Hussain

Why bother about Tamil casteist racism, the substantiation for which is to be found in attacks on this writer by only a few Tamils? Arguably they represent just a Tamil Islamophobic lunatic fringe and no more than that. However, the problem in Sri Lanka is that on the ethnic front the lunatic fringe is too often right at the center. Since the time of the Bandaranaike-Chelvanayagam Pact of 1957 every attempt at a solution of the ethnic problem has been aborted by the lunatic fringe moving to the center, a procedure that we might expect over the next attempt as well. The lunatic fringe is to be found on the Tamil side also, not just the Sinhalese one as commonly assumed. For instance, Balasingham and Karuna came to the sober conclusion that the Tamils had better settle for a federal solution. But the lunatic Prabhakaran was right there at the center and aborted that.

The LTTE – which began the attacks against this writer in the Colombo Telegraph – can be seen as a lunatic fringe that took power at the Tamil center. Arguably it began as a credible nationalist movement in response to State terrorism from 1977 to 1983, but it quickly degenerated into lunacy. That was shown by its extermination of the Tamil moderates – the best and brightest of the Tamils – the lunatic belief that it could establish Eelam through a military victory against the wishes of India, and the concomitant rejection of a federal solution. But what evidence was there to show that the LTTE attacked this writer? They were clearly co-ordinate attacks by seven to ten persons every week, all of them were well-written more or less in the same style, and they stopped abruptly after some weeks. Those facts suggest a group behind the attacks, and what could it be but the LTTE? Consider the fact that this writer would be regarded as a moderate, the kind of person who could help in promoting political solutions – the kind of person, in other words, who was utterly detested by the LTTE. There is the case of a friend of this writer, a Sinhalese tycoon and do-gooder who mounted several projects to help indigent Tamils in the North: expatriate Tamils made it clear to him that they hated his guts for doing that. Of course, there is plenty of evidence to show the LTTE’s Islamophobic hatred towards Muslims. It is pertinent to refer also to this writer’s article of some years ago analyzing the blatant display of racism in Hero’s Day speeches of Prabhakaran and Balasingham. The latter declared that the upper storey of the Sinhalese was entirely devoid of content, and that there was only one word that the Sinhalese could really understand, the word “hit”. A contact in London wrote to this writer to state that for the latter remark Balasingham could easily be convicted and punished in London for racist incitement to violence.

So it would be untenable to hold that the writer’s conclusions on Tamil casteist racism have to be dismissed because of inadequate substantiation. The attacks on this writer over weeks, months, and years provide ample material on that racism. It almost certainly afflicts only a minority of the Tamils but it could get to the center stage, very dangerously, should the LTTE ride again. In order to get fully to grips with the Tamil ethnic problem, it is important not just to recognize Tamil racism but to understand why it has a peculiarly horrible virulence. The writer has argued that belief in rebirth and the theory of karma provides a transcendental justification for hierarchy and the caste system, and therefore racism could have a peculiar virulence in the caste-ridden societies of South Asia. The Tamil caste system is much more rigid, much more inhuman, than the Sinhalese one, and consequently it might be expected that Tamil racism will have a peculiarly horrible virulence. Tamil responses to the writer’s recent articles certainly provide very convincing substantiation for that view.

In writing on Ifthikar Cader’s painting exhibition this writer announced that in his weekly articles he would be focusing more on the arts – on literature, film etc. There was nothing even remotely about the Tamils in the paintings or in the review, but a Tamil burst out in contempt and hatred declaring that this writer had engaged in a covert attack on Ifthikar and his brother because he envied their good looks etc. What was the explanation for that seeming bit of lunacy? One of Sri Lanka’s best known creative writers waxed lyrical about that review, which could be presumed therefore to have had a certain quality. The Tamil Islamophobe found the positive quality of that review unbearable. The writer’s next article was on a Hitchcock film, which again had nothing to do with the Tamils. The same Tamil burst out again, provoking a Sinhalese to ask whether he thought that no Muslim should write an article on Hitchcock. The Tamil replied that his position was a simple and straightforward one: films are forbidden under Islam, for which reason this writer could not have seen a single Hitchcock film, about which he knows “bugger all”. Tamil casteist racism is on obvious display: Muslims should stick to menial occupations or trade, and it is intolerable that one of them should dare to write on the high arts.

Another Tamil also thought it outrageous that I should write on the high arts. He conceded that I knew something about politics – “But European Art and the depths of the cinematic world!!! This is the giddy limit … Surely there is a limit to the patience and the courtesy of the readers in their thousands”. The same Tamil, Kettikaran, earlier wrote that the Muslims are breeding “like piglets” and when challenged on that declared that it is quite commonplace to say that the Muslims are breeding like piglets and rats, possibly having the BBS in mind. He declared further that the BBS had been provoked by this writer and similar Muslims. This writer challenged him to substantiate that charge but that has not been done up to now, obviously because the charge is nonsense. The reader will agree that the writer has not been excessive in describing the Tamil attacks on him in the following terms – “hysterical hatred and mad dog rage”.   

Another Tamil has been bellowing like a mad bull for months on end that Muslim pretensions to being of Arab descent are nonsense, except for a tiny handful of them, and that they are really low caste Tamils – sometimes he has been explicit that they are the products of inter-marriage with Sakkilis, that is lavatory cleaners. This writer quoted the following from Lorna Devaraja’s book on The Muslims of Sri Lanka: “From a trading community with tenuous affiliations to the host culture, they developed paradoxically into a group which while remaining devoutly Islamic had a place in the most intimate and innermost recesses of Kandyan life: in the administration of the Dalada Maligawe which enshrined the palladium of Buddhist royalty; in the pomp and ceremonial of the vihares and devales and in the day to day functioning of the monasteries which were the hub of the spiritual and cultural life of the village”. The writer asked how all that was possible with the intense caste consciousness of traditional Sri Lanka. No reply. It was a clear case of Tamil casteist racism in action.

Before concluding the writer must point out that the attacks on him provide valuable evidence on the dehumanizing and bestializing power of racism – for the racist, not his victims. A couple of Tamils keep recurring to the charge that the writer advocated famine as an instrument to subdue the rebellious Tamils. Any reader who turns to Google and clicks on “Izeth Hussain’s reply to K. Arvind – 2006” will find that he has advocated the precise opposite. The writer declared that the LTTE and its clones should be extirpated from off the face of the earth. The Tamil racists insist that in fact what the writer advocated was the extermination of all Tamils. The writer has inveighed against Wahabism and its clones at great length but the Tamil racists insist that he is a notorious supporter of the ISIS. And so on, ad nauseam. The appeal to reason and the moral sense is of no avail with the Tamil racists. Could it be that they have reduced themselves to the level of the rat, the dog, and the pig?

What action should be taken? It is a significant fact that the concerted attacks by what was almost certainly the rump LTTE stopped after some months. Possibly the ripostes of this writer showing how ridiculous those attacks were could have led to that outcome. At present the writer and a Sinhalese who has been writing in his defense in the Colombo Telegraph have come to be convinced that one of the Tamil racists is the servitor of a fundamentalist Christian group. It is relevant to recall at this point that the BBS is believed to have had the financial backing of Norwegian fundamentalist groups. There could be a sinister force at work behind some of the Islamophobic attacks against this writer. Our authorities should look into the political dimension of Christian fundamentalist activity in Sri Lanka, particularly in the Tamil areas. This writer was revolted some time ago by a video showing a mass meeting of a Christian fundamentalist group in the Eastern Province in support of the expansionist policy of apartheid Israel.

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    What race are Muslims? Tamil Islamophobia? Are Muslims oppressed in Tamil Nadu? Why are Muslim Tamils like AR Rahman and A.P.J. Abdul Kalam celebrated by Tamils all over the world? Why is B.H. Abdul Hameed invited to host Tamil cultural events around the world?
    There’s no Tamil Islamophobia. It’s just that the so-called Moors in Lanka don’t identify with the Tamil race and actively collude with the racist GoSL to work against their interests. Why don’t you talk about the Moorish anti-Tamil extremism in Batticaloa where Muslim Home Guards carried out ethnic cleansing and illegal settlements?
    If as you allege only fringe elements in the Tamil society hate Muslims, why give disproportionate amount of attention to them as you’re doing in this series of articles? Perhaps you need some soul-searching about your deep-seated anti-Tamil prejudice.

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      SinhalaPropaganda,

      Why you comment as ‘SinhalaPropaganda’? Self-confidence issue?

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      Izeth Hussain

      RE: Some Conclusions On Tamil Casteist Racism

      “However, the problem in Sri Lanka is that on the ethnic front the lunatic fringe is too often right at the center. Since the time of the Bandaranaike-Chelvanayagam Pact of 1957 every attempt at a solution of the ethnic problem has been aborted by the lunatic fringe moving to the center, a procedure that we might expect over the next attempt as well. The lunatic fringe is to be found on the Tamil side also, not just the Sinhalese one as commonly assumed. For instance, Balasingham and Karuna came to the sober conclusion that the Tamils had better settle for a federal solution. But the lunatic Prabhakaran was right there at the center and aborted that.”

      Thanks for a clear an succinct write-up. Yes, the Tamils you are referring o showing theit stupidity, courtesy of Hindu castism and racism.?

      1. Hindu caste discrimination is the core of the problem, and the upper caste Tamils are sitting on top and want to maintain their castism, Racism and hegemony.

      2. Many articles were written up by you, H L D Mahindapala, and many Tamils regarding this problem. See how the upper caste Tamils went so far as to vote for disenfranchising the Estate Tamil Citizens, along with the racist Sinhala, when the Leftist parties dominated by the Sinhala South opposed.

      C. Suntharalingam: Tamil Story Telling On The Citizenship Bill
      Cooked up Commitments to Hill-country Tamils

      https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/c-suntharalingam-tamil-story-telling-on-the-citizenship-bill/

      3. The Racist and Castist Tamils are now trying to white wash history.Did they recruit the rump LTTE, that was racist to find their former target, Muslims, again?

      Despite the excesses and past abuses, the Sri Lankan armed forces did get the job done by eliminating the racist LTTE. Now it is up to the Tamils with common sense and a touch of Egalitarianism, to move forward, and discuss the racist and castist traditions in their community, and try to move forward.

      By making Muslims their repeated targets for Tamil Castism and Racism, will not get them anywhere, other than making more enemies? Are the Tamils stupid, and is the average IQ of 79 and indication of that?

      Was it the plan of the Norwegian,the Christian fundamentalist west, BBS, and the LTTE rump cooked up in Norway. Eric Solheim admitted that they did funds BBS and LTTE. No surprise here.

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        1) “upper caste Tamils went so far as to vote for disenfranchising the Estate Tamil Citizens”
        It’s very wrong to homogenise the Tamil political class during those times. They were not a monolithic bloc. Federal Party’s S.J.V. Chelvanayakam was very much opposed to it, stating in the State Council, in 1948: “You are now hitting at the weakest section of the Tamils. You are hitting at the innocent and the meek that are labouring in the chill and the cold of the hill-country plantation regions producing your wealth.”
        G.G. Ponnambalam who had initially represented Indian Tamils and opposed the citizenship bill was enticed to compromise by the Sinhalese leadership who promised things in return for the native Tamils. Far from casteist prejudice, Tamil leaders like Ponnambalam who cooperated with the Sinhalese UNP thought that “the Tamils have nothing to gain by remaining in sterile opposition for ever. By extending their cooperation alone they could hope to get something out of the situation.”
        Shortsighted Tamil leaders fell prey to such Sinhalese divide and rule tactic which only reduced Tamil political representation.

        2) Tamil nationalism as championed by the Federal Party, then TULF and finally LTTE was neither racist not casteist. Tamil leaders always tried to be inclusive toward Muslims which is why they spoke of “Tamil-speaking people” instead of just ethnic Tamils. Even some Muslim leaders like M.H.M. Ashraff were initially sympathetic to the TULF and supported Eelam. The Vaddukoddai Resolution, manifesto of Tamil nationalism, advocated a secular socialist state of Tamil Eelam which explicitly denounced caste discrimination.

        Tamil Hindu casteism has nothing to do with Tamil nationalism and is in fact a hindrance to the formation of a united Tamil national consciousness. The LTTE created one of the progressive societies in all of South Asia where caste discrimination was banned and women were empowered. Muslims are not big fans of secularism and women empowerment which was partly why they didn’t want to be part of Eelam society.

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          SinhalaPropaganda,

          While most of your points were very true and make sense, I doubt the below is:

          “The LTTE created one of the progressive societies in all of South Asia where caste discrimination was banned and women were empowered. Muslims are not big fans of secularism and women empowerment which was partly why they didn’t want to be part of Eelam society”

          In my honest personal view, Eastern Muslims might be the worst among all Sri Lankans in any given terms I have seen & experienced, I still don’t think Kattankuty mosque massacre of more than 140 innocent unarmed civilians in 90’s would have attracted any Muslims to be part of Eelam society. Probably that was the U-turn of Muslims, and not the secularism and women empowerment that have always been the part and parcel of the section of the community.

          And I think, uniting Tamil (and Tamil speaking) national consciousness, secularism and women empowerment can’t go hand-in-hand with terrorism

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            Unlike the GoSL, LTTE was also engaged in social reform. Muslim society is very much conservative to this day, even resisting abolishing child marriage custom which the Sinhala state tolerates but would have been a crime in LTTE controlled area. That’s one reason to prefer the status quo which was challenged by the Tamil militants. What evidence is there to suggest LTTE was responsible for the Kattankuty mosque massacre? They denied responsibility. The Tigers’ Mannar Island area leader, Dharmendra said: “It was done by the government, so they would get arms from the Islamic countries. When it happened, the defense minister was in Libya, a strange coincidence.”
            Unless there’s an impartial, perhaps international, investigation all reasonable persons should doubt the official allegations by a criminal state. It’s the same state that necklaced, tortured, beheaded tens of thousands of its own Sinhala sons and dumped their mutilated bodies on the road, what makes you think it wouldn’t have done the same to its citizens of another race for its own political expediency? Divide and rule tactic would have been beneficial to the Sinhalese ruling class at a time when Muslims were joining Tamil militant groups. To weaken the solidarity, enmity had to be created between neighbours who had peacefully coexisted for centuries. According to a Human Rights Watch report from 1995:
            “The role of the state and of guerrilla forces in fomenting communal violence was even clearer in their manipulation of the relationship between Sri Lanka’s Tamil and Muslim communities. … Government forces capitalized on Tamil-Muslim differences as a means to weaken the militant movement, sometimes seeming openly to support Muslim violence against Tamils. … communal enmity was promoted to prevent the development of political coalitions that might weaken the hold of either party to the conflict. In Batticaloa and Amparai districts in 1985 and again in 1990, witnesses reported seeing members of the security forces in the vicinity during attacks on Tamil communities which resulted in many homes being burned, and deaths of Tamils and Muslims killed in reprisal attacks. While it was evident that official forces were aware of the attacks, no effort was made to stop them.”

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        Amarasiri – thanks for your sensible and sharp comments.Did Solheim acknowledge Norwegian financial backing for the BBS? Please let me have the source for that.- IH

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          Izeth Hussein,

          “Did Solheim acknowledge Norwegian financial backing for the BBS? Please let me have the source for that.- IH “

          Twitter Messages:

          Erik Solheim‏Verified account @ErikSolheim 17 Jul 2014
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          Replying to @Amarasi69467474
          @Amarasi69467474 @taylordibbert For sure we funded BBS. As we have always funded LTTE, Mahinda and ths islamic jihadists in #SriLanka.

          Just ask BBS as to who paid for their expenses when they went to Norway and USA.

          Did Mahinda Rajapaksa pay from his stolen Billions?

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            “Did Mahinda Rajapaksa pay from his stolen Billions?”

            Izeth will not hear this question.

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            Don’t get so mad Amare!

            In fact, Izeth is a relative of you.

            You all are cow skin clad racist. Izeth is believe he is high caste because Kandyan caste conscious Sinhala treats him one like. You argue that your native Veddas had left the jungle millenniums ago but the New King’s father Albert and he are still uncivilised cave dwellers.

            The difference is Sampanthar certified Izeth and Native Veddas’ certified you. That’s all.

            I guess We all have to grow up together a lot.

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      Sinhala Propaganda is right on the ball. The gutter language he uses
      and his uncontrollable rage are suggestive of the guy either already in or close to a nervous breakdown. I am truly sorry about that.

      Kettikaran

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        Kettikaran

        “The gutter language he uses
        and his uncontrollable rage are suggestive of the guy either already in or close to a nervous breakdown. I am truly sorry about that.”

        Are you compensated by your paymasters Israelis, Christian Fundamentalists and others base the number of comments, number of words or the number ff paragraphs you contribute?

        Reminds me of Dr. Dayan Jayatillake and his pay master MaRa MaRa.

        Just curious!

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    Hindu caste discrimination is at the heart of the problem. First they came after Tamil Christians. Then they went after Sinhalas. Then they hunted down Muslims. Then Eastern Tamils.

    Muslims displaced from Jaffna must be resettled in Jaffna. Not elsewhere.

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      Yes ISIS will soon be coming for you, as Allah has forbidden you to lie

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      Only the small amount of genuine Muslim IDPS displaced from Jaffna/north, should be resettled back, if they want to return but not the hundreds of thousands of pretend Muslim IDPS from places like Beruwela, Kurunegala wanting to be settled in sparsely populated Tamil majority districts like Mannar, Vavuniya Mullaitheevu and Killonochchi, in order to change these Tamil discricts to Muslim. We know your game. Steal Tamil lands and create Islamic enclaves with Gulf Arab money.

      What about the thousands of genuine Tamil IDPS from the east, who were chased by the Muslims home guards and now languishing in refugee camps in India and in the north being allowed to return to their homes in the east?

      As usual very quiet about it. I have never met a nasty backstabbing cunning people like these Sri Lankan Muslims.

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        Gosh! Rohan, the last paragraph in your thoughts.
        When asked why the Tamils threw out the Muslims from the North, this was their response too.

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          Really but the east is not their land it is Tamil land. They came here as refugees and now with Sinhalese racists are trying to steal it from the Tamils

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          Really why do they always respond by repeating what I state like some parrot. No original thoughts. May be you love backstabbers who deny their heritage as you may one of them too.

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        Rohan

        “As usual very quiet about it. I have never met a nasty backstabbing cunning people like these Sri Lankan Muslims.”

        Have you been specifically looking for nasty backstabbing cunning Sri Lankan Muslim all your life?

        I have never met a nasty backstabbing cunning Sri Lankan Muslim ever because I don’t look for one.

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          I do not have to specifically look they are everywhere even in this forum . including the author of this article. It is you who are blind. They always here and speak of their Arab heritage completely ignoring their actual Tamil origin and then fawn to the Sinhalese racist, stating that they were co partners in the Eelam Tamil genocide and as such now need their promised reward. Large parts of the Tamil North East

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            That Azwer is blood related to this IH.. I guess. The kind of men would lick the balls of some racial sinhalaya even if they would not allow them to do so.

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        Rohan” I have never met a nasty backstabbing cunning people like these Sri Lankan Muslims”

        cannot agree with you more

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          Rajash

          Just to clarify your recent racist position on Muslims, may I ask you why you are growing into a public racist Anagarika Dharmapala, HLD M, IH, Johnny Boy, ….. somass, ….

          I guess it is to do with the remote possibility of your children eloping with Pakistani or Nigerian Muslims?

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            Native

            I am not a racist towards Muslims. I am only countering the Muslims racist.

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            Native

            Don’t pull me into this cesspit.

            Soma

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              soma

              “Don’t pull me into this cesspit.”

              On the contrary, I trying to pull you out of the cesspit. But then it is not an easy job.

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          There can be good muslims in the country so as the good sinhalese. How can you generalize it that way man ?

          I think CURRENT POLITICIAL LEADERS (muslims) are all backstabbers. We got to know their courage on own communities at the time that poor girl was beheaded in Saudi where, that Edwin Rodrigo the most abusive commentator is prisoned even today.

          Current writer, Azwer, or there many others in public domain to be called as good example for real traitors to muslim community.
          Alone the language being used by CURRENT writer is beyond all bearing. Even after a long driven war – why we the srilankens hang on with the kind of hatred this way is beyond questions.
          What we sow, we will harvest. Likewise, if we the folks stay criticising the others – ot seeng where we went wrong- we can stay rotten forever.

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      First they came after Tamil Christians? Are you aware the father of Tamil nationalism, federalism and Eelam was Samuel James Veluppillai Chelvanayakam who was a Christian and who advocated a secular socialist state of Tamil Eelam in his Vaddukoddai Resolution which explicitly stated “that in the state of Tamil Eelam caste shall be abolished and the observance of the pernicious practice of untouchability or inequality of any type based on birth shall be totally eradicated and its observance in any form punished by law.”

      Went after Sinhalese? It was the Sinhalese who were pelting stones at Satyagraha protesters and went around raping and massacring Tamils in 1956, 1958, 1977, 1981 and 1983. It took Tamils almost 30 years to retaliate to decades of Sinhalese savagery.

      We have nothing against Muslims being resettled in Jaffna. They belong there unlike illegal Sinhalese settlers.

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    Correction! In India there is no race called ‘Muslim’. A.P.J. Abdul Kalam is an “ETHNIC TAMIL”. His “RELIGION” is Islam. In Tamil Nadu they are referred to as Tamil Muslims. This is similar to Sinhala Buddhists/Christian and Tamil Hindu/Christian in Sri Lanka (SL). Even in SL there is no race called “Muslim”.

    In SL you have several distinct races based on their native languages:

    * Vedda- Language of Native Veddhas

    * Sinhala- Language of Sinhalese who maybe Buddhists, Christian or hybrid Hindu+Buddhist

    * Tamil- Language of Native and Indian Tamils who maybe Hindu or Christian

    * SL Creole Malay- Language of SL Malays who are mostly Muslim

    * European (Now Largely English)- Language of Portuguese, Dutch, British descended also known as Burghers who are Christian.

    * Memoni- Language of SL Memons who are Muslim.

    * Gujarati- Language of SL Dawoodi Bohra’s who are Muslim.

    * SL Portuguese creole- Language of SL Kaffirs who maybe Buddhists or Christian

    ** There are several other not listed above

    But the oddity here would be the “Sri Lanka Moor”. They are native Tamil speakers who are taken as a separate ethnic group. There are is a small yet growing number of Muslims who are native Sinhala speakers. They are NOT referred to as “Moor” but as “Sinhala Muslim”. “Anver Manatunga” is one of the well known examples.

    If the native Tamil speaking Muslims want to separate themselves from the Tamil Hindus and Tamil Christians well then, that is their right. In a democracy people should be allowed to be grouped in a way they feel appropriate, but at the end of the day a secular/neutral government will not care about one’s ethnicity, religion, philosophy, ideology, etc and will treat everyone equally.

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      Thanos

      “In a democracy people should be allowed to be grouped in a way they feel appropriate, but at the end of the day a secular/neutral government will not care about one’s ethnicity, religion, philosophy, ideology, etc and will treat everyone equally.”

      Yes. That should be the goal, separation of State and religion.

      Religion is belief, and race is ethnicity and genetics. One cannot change ethnicity by changing religions or beliefs.

      Do religions discriminate towards going to hell or heaven based on ethnicity? Or, is it only based on belief?

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        “Do religions discriminate towards going to hell or heaven based on ethnicity? Or, is it only based on belief?”

        I am not an expert in all the worldwide Religions but I assume it is based ones actions either physical or purely mental and has nothing to do with ethnicity.

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          Thanos

          “I am not an expert in all the worldwide Religions but I assume it is based ones actions either physical or purely mental and has nothing to do with ethnicity. “

          The interpretations have changed over the years for some religions.

          At one time, the Christians interpreted that the Black Africans, did not have a soul, and therefore slave-able, and this was purely based on ethnicity.

          The Hindu caste system is based in race and ethnicity, and the low caste will always be born as the low caste. Buddhism tried to correct that.

          The Jews, considered non-Jews to be different, and Judaism is based on ethnicity.

          Today, still belie that the Sun goes around the stationary Earth, and the earth is resting on Turtles, etc, and it i turtles all the way.

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            “Today, still belie that the Sun goes around the stationary Earth, and the earth is resting on Turtles, etc, and it i turtles all the way.”

            The big problem there is that people take things literally and not metaphorically or don’t bother getting some philosophical meaning out of it. There are many instances in Buddhism where things appear ridiculous at face value. Some blindly follow it, some outright dismiss them shouting “bullshit”. There are only a few who will dive deep and look at the hidden meanings. “යමක ප‍්‍රාතිහාර්ය” is one of those crazy things. Most modern day Sinhala-Buddhists think it is some kind of miracle performed by the Buddha. It is decidedly NOT.

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    Izzat stating the obvious truth that the Sri Lankan Muslims ( other than the small Malay Borah and Memon minority) are not of Moorish or Arab descent but descended from largely low caste immigrant Indian Tamil Hindu immigrant is not being anti Islamic in anyway. This is the truth and historical fact. Even DNA has proved that they have very little Arab or any other origin and their core origin is South Indian.

    Even in the Middle East and other Muslim countries like Pakistan
    Bangladesh, Malaysia Central Asia, there is no such ethnic identity called Muslim. It is a religious identity. People are identified even in these lands by their ethnicity and the language they speak. Eg. Arabs, Turks, Kurds, Farsi, Turkoman, Punjabi, Pashtun, Sindhi, Uzbek, Tadjik, Bengali, Tamil, Malayalee, Rohinga, Malay, Javanese, Acehnese, Sumatran. The list goes on.

    No one is identified as belonging to an Muslim ethnicity, other than is Sri Lanka, where due to dirty politics and to divide the island’s Tamils power hungry nasty Southern Muslims elite like you connived with the Sinhalese establishment to make a religious identity into an ethnic racial identity and deliberately used the word Moor instead of Tamil.

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      This Real Sama has kept on bellowing like a mad bull for months on end that the Muslims are low caste Tamils. In refutation I quoted Lorna Devarajah to show the high status enjoyed by the Muslims in Sinhalese society. That was in traditional Sinhalese society in which caste consciousness was very high. How was that high status possible with alleged low caste origins? Real Sama answer to the point and don’t keep on bellowing – IH

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        Yes they enjoyed such a high status that they did not want them in the Sinhalese Kandyan provinces and kicked them to the eastern Tamil lands to claim refuge. One swallow does not make a summer. Similarly a few Arab emissaries enjoying high status in the Kandyan court, has nothing to with Sri Lankan Muslims like you who are largely descended from immigrant low caste Indian Tamil Hindu converts.
        Love to latch onto the Arab coat tail and claim greatness. what Lorna states is also true and what I state is also true. She was only referring to the status of a few foreign Muslim emissaries in the Sinhalese courts and not Sri Lankan Muslims as whole. A few Arab and other Muslim emissaries enjoying high status in the Sinhalese court does not mean the rest of the Muslims in the island were of high status. They were not.
        This like some one after a few centuries stating due to the high status enjoyed by Tamil quislings like Lakshman Kadirgammar in the racist Sinhalese establishment, all Sri Lankan Tamils were treated very well.
        Please use your brain and do not try to misinterpret and misinform. Very mischievous.

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          RSSS
          Does Izeth have a sensible brain?

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          The poor fellow Real Sama is practically certifiable. Any unprejudiced reader will see that Lorna Devaraja was generalizing about the Muslims as a whole. There is plenty of other evidence to show that Muslims as a whole had high and not Sakkili status. The fact that some Muslims were settled in the Eastern Province has no relevance to the question of their status.That was an act of friendliness on the part of King Senarat, not of hostility as RS is trying to make out. I will later write a clarificatory article about Muslim ethnicity. In the meanwhile RS can go on bellowing, providing evidence that a segment of the Tamils, not a majority of them, have been bestialised by Islamophobic racist hatred. – IH

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            Mr.Hussain,

            The book by Lorna Dewaraja (L.D) was published by a Muslim organization with the forword by a Muslim politician with a limited prints for the Muslim readership (I’ve forgotten the names of the organization and the politician). I remember pointing out the fallcies in that book to a Tamil-Muslim relation (by marriage) of mine, who lend that to me, including how Mohameddian-beggers were treated in tha Kandyan era as stated by Robert Knox, followed by a sentence by L.D that Mulims held high offices in the Royal court. This book written in the mid nineties, when the war is at peak with the intention of anti-Tamil feeling by the author.Also, once it was mentioned by you earlier to the effect that Muslims helped in the running of Dalada-Malgawa (Tooth Palace; Maligai in Tamil means palace). This was fiction by L.D as she tried to fill the paragraph with no evidence. People fo islam religion by their preachings detest object and statue worships: and Tooth is an object.

            But during the time of the last King of Kandy- a Tamil- there was a muslim Minister by the name of Cumarasamy. I wonder this was stated by L.D in her book.

            I also remember the politician who wrote the forword mentioned that L.D authored many books. But in fact that number is two,

            EnAG

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            IH@

            I wonder how you the like candidates to have performed in external affairs ?

            You are not at all or less sensible person. absolutely. I agree with RSS. I am sinhalese. I also respect everyone considering us all as SRILANKENS, not just limited to the word, but in working life too. Just because this I am isolated by some sinhala extremists. In the same time, I can imagine how some Muslim people also behave like me in Colombo.

            What matters to see it as one. Let alone today, after 30 year long war- we should see it back. I never expected the kind of rubbish from a 80 year old man. But we read on and on, that the guy adds his comments as Edwin or the like low creatures do.
            IH@ please rethink what you ve been posting here – if patological reasons are excluded, you really need to think a lot .. Anyways, all the best for you.

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            Only people certifiable here are you constantly spreading anti Tamil hate and other mad jihadi Islamic fanatics like Isharath. There is no such thing called Muslim ethnicity mad man, it is a religion and not an ethnicity . You do not have Christian Hindu or Buddhist ethnicities. just like Islam these world religions have followers belonging to different races ethnicities and linguistic groups. The only ethno religious groups are the Jews Druze, Yazidi and Sikhs to my knowledge as these religions are confined and identified with certain ethnic groups only , Judaisam with Jews. Druze with Arabs, Yazidi with Kurds and Sikhism with Punjabi.
            Muslims of Sri Lanka by and large descended from largely low caste immigrant Dravidian Indian Tamil Hindus who converted to Islam. There is a little bit of Arab amongst certain families, that is all, even these families are of predominantly Dravidian Tamil heritage with a slight mixture of Arab and other western Asian blood. This does not make them or the rest of almost 100% Tamil origin Muslim masses a different ethnicity nor Moorish or Arab. They ethnic Tamils who are Muslim by religion. Got is no amount of screeching or insults and made up evidence by certain anti Tamil historians with an agenda is going to change it.
            DNA has also proved this. now go and take a hike

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          Muslims have this habit of latching on to the Sinhala Lorna Devaraja – whose anti-Tamil prejudice is well known. The claim she confirmed local Muslims have been here continuously for a thousand years is historically inaccurate. While there may have been a few ship-wrecked Arab sailors Muslims, in the hundreds of thousands, only arrived in gradual numbers from the Tamilnadu littoral during the last decades of the Portugese advent – driven more by famine at that time. They have absolutely no claim for land as a people in any part of the island – although they have a right today to stay and live where they chose in the island.

          Nettabomman

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            You are correct but these largely low caste converted Dravidian wakers from Tamil Nadu like the Sakkili author of this article will never admit to this and will pathetically cling to an Arab origin that they hardly have. These self serving backstabbing people are a curse on the island’s indigenous Tamils. They are exactly like the cuckoo hatchling that steals the nest and kills the hatchling of the original bird. This is what they are doing to the island’s indigenous Tamils with the help of Sinhalese racists.
            This nasty evil low caste immigrant Dravidian convert derogatively is calling Tamils Sakkili and then howls if Tamils state the truth that it is him and his community who are actually Sakkilis or descended from Sakillis

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            Nettabomman you are correct these starving Tamil converts from poor low caste families , arrived in their hundreds of thousands from the coast of Southern Tamil Nadu during the Portuguese era. Before that there were only a few hundred if Iam generous thousand Muslim, Tamil speaking half castes living along the western littoral of the island. The product of Arab sailors and Tamil whores.
            It is from these lowly starving Tamil Muslim converts, that 99% of the Sri Lankan Muslims like Izzat Isharat and the rest are descended. These few hundred or thousand Arab/Tamil half castes would have got assimilated in this huge sea of Dravidian Tamil Muslim migration from India and now their genes will hardly make an impact on the wider Sri Lankan Muslim community, other than a few families.
            They fled from India in wooden vessels called Marrakallam in Tamil, literally meaning the wooden vessel. This is why the Sinhalese call the Sri Lankan Muslims ” Marrakallayo or Marrkalla minissu” meaning people from the wooden boat. This because the vast majority of Sri Lankan Muslims are descended from these Tamil immigrants who fled from India. If they were largely descended from Arab traders/sailors, the Sinhalese would have used another term for them.
            Now the descendants of these Indian Tamil Muslim refugees who arrived in the island a few centuries ago are denying their actual origin, giving them selves airs and trying to claim the indigenous Tamils lands that they have no right to. Their claim to the east is a absurd as the Indian and Caribbean immigrants claiming parts of Britain as theirs.

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              Real Siva Sankaran Sarma,

              Everytime I see your comment, I feel your burning sensation in me. See how good I am for a caste lover. Sometimes I dance too – Does it mean you become a joke or a song?

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        So you are finally admitting that traditional Sinhalese society was caste conscious and still is. I do not see any articles regarding this from you or Mahindapala. Only constantly attacking Tamils

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        Ranil is running around the entire world of Chinese enemies, like Japan, Vietnam, India et al, but not to the West. He has to have his project of having controlled China without the Hangbangtota land, where Old King has ability to disturb his plans, completed before today. His scheme is to fully harness China with Lankawe notorious, drug addict, sex addict, violent and selfish private business doing employees filled FM’ Aappa Diplomacy. He made all these entire trips before EU decides on GSP+. He is promising a large, large swath of Maduru Oya reserves to China to cultivate sugar cane. By that offer, it looks like Sinhala or Eastern Tamil farmers never heard the word Sugar Cane, though nearby to Maduru Oya reserve, there is Kanatale Sugar Industries exist for long time. This new deal may bring down that industry too. That is how Ranil is dying hard to harness China to be used in GSP+ and UNHRC resolution 34/1. Showing a good face and promising to scratch the back, but once their part of the contract is over, stabbing on their back is the core technique of Lankawe FM’s Aappa Diplomacy.

        This is what Don Stephen did in the 1940s to British envoys when he was negotiating Trinco harbor for unitary government, trapping Tamils in that.
        This what Thero de Silva did in May 2009 at UNHRC.
        This what, after the war, Old King did to Ambassador Blake when pulled back the Dole’s plantation land in NCP, but giving Hangbangtota to China.
        The same is with Ex State Secretary Kerry.

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        Now, this what Ranil is doing to China when he fooled China to trap into his games, but no loan interest payment or 200 years of Hambantota lease. In the years to come, IC will have to pay more for their mistake of falling into Aappa diplomacy of Lankawe’s FM.

        Part of Aappa Diplomacy simply pretends like that Lankawe diplomats are fair and reasonable. But their talks fully loaded with techniques to overturn all, including friends and foe, equally.
        On his project of destroying any or all solution Tamils can get from UN and UNHRC, Izeth was very acting on using his trade tricks recently.
        But FM trained Izeth underestimated CT commentator’s ability to peel off his dirty FM’s mask of Aappa Diplomacy by reading in between his lines and bring out public his real heart.

        “This Real Sama has kept on bellowing like a mad bull for months on end thatthe Muslims are low caste Tamils. In refutation I quoted Lorna Devarajah to show the high status enjoyed by the Muslims in Sinhalese society. That was in traditional Sinhalese society in which caste consciousness was very high. How was that high status possible with alleged low caste origins?” This how Izeth is trying to establish his Kandyan, Arabian and Brahminical high caste legacy.

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        It is laughable to watch an imbecile struggling to bring false proofs that he is the highest caste, even after his Prophet, Edwin said that he is only an oppressed caste(Sakkiliya), but he would be hurt if somebody call him a Brahman. This man’s mind is a dangerous wild jungle infested with poisonous cobra and viper theories of castes and hierarchical differences. His arrogance insistence of his claim of that he is above Kandyan Sinhalese or Tamil Brahmins is an intolerable behavior on public website, while him accusing Tamils at large as Casteist Racists.
        Izeth can claim any caste for him. But if he attempts to demonstrate that he has to be treat above the oppressed, by all it is not acceptable. We cannot accept Izeth’s argument of that he was treated above them by the caste conscious Kandyan Sinhalese. Further we cannot accept Izeth’s implied statement of that oppressed can be treated lower by Kandyan Sinhalese.
        But the CT commentators has not just peeled Izeth “good baby mask”, but have effectively they have scratched all over his face for his extreme high caste feelings. Izeth is moaning by that pain.

        If somebody should be stopped writing in public domain, Izeth deserve that proud title for his contention of that he is high caste and Kandyan treated him as one.

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      Real Siva Sankaran Sarma

      “Southern Muslims elite like you connived with the Sinhalese establishment to make a religious identity into an ethnic racial identity and deliberately used the word Moor instead of Tamil. “

      The Problem the Tamils have is that they are still shackled by the Racism and Castism of Hinduism. It is rather unfortunate that Buddha was not able to make inroads intro Tamil Hindu society to make the reforms, despite Buddhaghosa being from Tamil Nadu (Actually he was from Andra Pardesh).

      The English word Moor was derived from the Portuguese word Moro, and the Portuguese referred to Muslims as Moro, probably because they came from Morocco. The Southern Muslims do not look like Tamils. You can compare the Jaffna Tamils, Te Eastern Tamils and The up Country Tamils.

      The ethnicity of the Southern Muslims are a mixture of Yemani, other Arab, Persian, North Indian, and South Indian genes combined with Sinhala and Tamil genes. In the absence of a statistically valid genetic analysis, one will have to go the general appearances.

      Surely, there must be some low-caste Tamils as well among the Muslims, especially in the East where thee are many Tamils.However, one still need to go by the genetics.

      Real Siva Sankaran Sarma, you need to look into the core cause, the castism and racism that is ingrained in Hinduism, which Buddha tried to reform. Did you ever wonder why the Indian Hindu Dalits are converting to Buddhism? Read up on B R Ambedkar.

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        Oh really everything else other than little bits of Tamil and South Indian, How come they spoke Tamil and until recently followed Tamil customs and even had Tamil Muslims caste names? Other than a small number of elite families 99% of the southern Muslims look typically South Indian , that they really are. When challenged to produce any Arab or other western Asian origin the so called Moor’s Islamic council struggled and was only able to produce evidence of a distant male Arab ancestor for a few hundred families. Only one distant male Arab ancestor even for these families then who are all the other ancestors? The answer is Tamil. Now you are bringing not only Arab/Moors but also Persian and North Indian out of the hat. Next you will say Turkish Bosnian Albanian and every one else than Tamil.

        We all know the how the word Moor originated. The Poruguese incorrectly called all South Asian Muslims as Moor, as the only Muslims , they had encountered prior to their travels are the Moors from Morocco who ruled the Iberian peninsular for 800 years. When the Portuguese used it they used it in religious sense and not racially but these low caste immigrant Indian Tamil Muslim converts in Sri Lanka jumped on this whilst other South Asian Muslims discarded this.
        Whom are trying to fool? Everyone knows you are no Sinhalese but a Muslim from the south. The truth smarts.

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          Real Siva Sankaran Sharma

          1. “Oh really everything else other than little bits of Tamil and South Indian, How come they spoke Tamil and until recently followed Tamil customs and even had Tamil Muslims caste names? Other than a small number of elite families 99% of the southern Muslims look typically South Indian , that they really are.”

          This question about the ethnicity and origins of the foreigners, Paradeshis, Paras in Sri lanka, Para-Sinhala, Para-Tamils, Para-Muslims and other Paras in the Land of Native Veddah Aethho can only be made by statistically valid genetic studies. The Question of the Paras in Lanka, the Land was resolved by generic studies, even though the Para-Sinhala and Para-Tamils refuse to accept the facts, because they are so thoroughly brainwashed by the Mahawansa, Deepwansa and other scriptures they revere.

          The Tamils can generally be identified by the Sri Lankans apart from the Sinhala and Muslims, from being of a darker complexion and their facial and head shapes. However, the Muslims cannot be easily identified by their facial features, except perhaps the Muslims from the North and East. While this is nor statistically and scientifically valid, unlike genetic studies, to claim that 99% of the Sri Lankan Muslims are of low caste Tamil genetic Stock, is off the mark, and not supported. Your claim is based on political reasons, not based on genetics.

          Mitochondrial DNA history of Sri Lankan ethnic people:
          Through a comparison with the mtDNA HVS-1 and part of HVS-2 of Indian database, both Tamils and Sinhalese clusters were affiliated with Indian subcontinent populations than Vedda people who are believed to be the native population of the island of Sri Lanka.

          http://www.nature.com/jhg/journal/v59/n1/full/jhg2013112a.html

          2. The hypothesis of the “upper” Caste Tamils is that, based on the Hindu caste System that Low-caste Tamils are inferior, and anybody associated with Low-caste Tamils are inferior. The Sinhala except the racists, do not think so. Just look at the voting on the disenfranchising of the Up Country Estate Tamils. The “upper” caste Tamils are trying their best to claim the the Muslims are from Low-caste Tamils, and therefore inferior to them.

          2. ” Whom are trying to fool? Everyone knows you are no Sinhalese but a Muslim from the south. The truth smarts.”

          Come up with real credible data and references, instead of trying ad hominem attacks.

          Ad hominem (Latin for “to the man” or “to the person”), short for argumentum ad hominem, is now usually understood as a logical fallacy in which an argument is rebutted by attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.

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            Tamil identified by darker complexion mad man go and ask any foreigner they will state they cannot identify who is who and they all look similar proving the entire island is Dravidian. Desperately trying claim all sorts of origin for the island’s Muslims other than their predominantly Dravidian Tamil origin is pathetic.
            Southern Muslims are 90-95% of Indian Tamil Dravidian origin and 5-10% other origin. This is the reason they look Tamil , speak Tamil followed Tamil customs and had Tamil Muslim caste names. Every thing about them reeked of Tamil until they decided a generation or two ago to discard and deny this Tamil origin and heritage for political convenience and claim all sorts of origin Arab Persian North Indian Sinhalese everything under the sun other than Tamil. You are a typical representatives of this selfish lying backstabbing southern Muslim elite. Stop posting under a Sinhalese identity , Everyone knows that you are a Muslim. Who defends Muslims interests only. Pathetic creature. Now getting desperate and resorting to abuse.
            Sri Lankan Tamils have far more Bengali contribution to their DNA 28-30% compared to the Sinhalese 25% . However they still never claim this. We all have a little bit of something but that little bit does not make us.
            Around 10-20% of the present day Tamils are not Dravidian but have Indo Aryan origin. I am a typical example. Being a Brahmin I will be genetically far more closer to the north Indian upper castes. However we not go around stating we are all Aryans. As we are Tamil in culture and ethnicity.

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        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejP69oY6UxE

        These are typical southern Muslims 98% of them. Yes they look very Arab. only the recently adopted Arab garb. Even with the Arab they are singing in the southern Muslim Tamil dialect Arwi , that originated from the Tamil Muslims of Tamil Nadu.
        Whom are try to fool.

        Moderator please allow you tube as a picture is worth a thousand posts

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        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEPR8SjyJhw

        Same music by the Tamil Muslims of Tamil Nadu

        Moderator please allow this

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          Siva if these southern Sri Lankan Muslims were using Arwi, then they originated from Tamil Nadu. Arwi was used by the Tamil Muslims of Tamil Nadu and originated from there. It is basically a synthesis of Arabic and Tamil. Arabic or Arabo Tamil. Tamil written in the Arabic script with extensive influence of Arabic words. Just like the Urdu language of North India. Hindi written in Persian script with extensive influence of Persian/Arabic and Turkish words a by product of Muslim Mughal rule. The only difference is Urdu developed into a very rich poetic literary language and now more or less the spoken language of most North Indian and Pakistani Muslims, whereas Arwi is just dying out.

          Arwi was an outcome of the cultural synthesis between seafaring Arabs and Tamil-speaking Muslims of Tamil Nadu. It had a rich body of work in jurisprudence, sufism, law, medicine, and sexology, of which little has been preserved. It was used as a bridge language for Tamil Muslims to learn Arabic. Many hadith manuscripts have been found. Most of the fiqh books, particularly those of Imaam Shaafi and Imaam Abu Hanifa, have been found in Arwi. There was also a translation of the Bible into Arwi in 1926. Arwi contributed immensely to the education and progression of Muslim women in South India and Sri Lanka. Arwi-educated women were active participants in the social fabric of society playing vital roles in education, medicine and even politics.
          Everything points to a Tamil South Indian origin to these Southern Sri Lankan Muslims with a little bit of other blood mixed in them. However their elite like Amarasiri Izzat will keep on denying this and point out to the small amount of Arab or other blood in them as their sole origin and completely ignore their core origin and heritage Tamil, that they basically are.
          Many Tamils and Sinhalese with a little bit of European, North Indian or even Arab are very light skinned, this does not mean they are Europeans, North Indian or Arab. Similarly they have found out that the little bit of Arab or North Indian or other blood has made many communities in Kerala like the Mappila Nairs and Syrian Christians very light skinned compared to the ordinary Malayalees. However this does not mean these people are Arabs, North Indian or Syrian. They are still Malayalees and identify so. What is with these Sri Lankan Muslims? Little bit Arab and they are not Tamil anymore but Moor

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    Contd

    It is the Sri Lankan Muslims who have been anti Tamil and have done everything to destroy the Island’s Tamil population from the time of independence and not the Tamils and are still doing so. Muslim minster introduced standardisation to deny Tamils higher education. Muslims thugs and home guards killed raped looted and ethnically cleansed Tamils in the south and east. Now on the pretext of resettling Muslims IDPS are trying to settle thousands of out of area Muslims in the north.

    Hate their Tamil origin and for political convenience deny it and claim a fake Arab/Moorish origin thinking it make them look great in the eyes of the world,help from Arabs(sic) and benefits from their Sinhalese masters to whom they fawn. When Tamils state the truth accuse them of being anti Islamic and casteist. What is anti Islamic in stating the truth that the Sri Lankan Muslims are nor of Arab descend but largely descended from Low caste Indian Tamil Hindu converts. It is the truth and even Islam teaches you to tell the truth and lie. It is you and the rest of the Muslims in Sri Lanka who are anti Islamic by denying your origin for petty benefits. Stop lying and being pathetic

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    It is the Sri Lankan Muslims who have been anti Tamil and have done everything to destroy the Island’s Tamil population from the time of independence and not the Tamils and are still doing so. Muslim minster introduced standardisation to deny Tamils higher education. Muslims thugs and home guards killed raped looted and ethnically cleansed Tamils in the south and east. Now on the pretext of resettling Muslims IDPS are trying to settle thousands of out of area Muslims in the north.

    Hate their Tamil origin and for political convenience deny it and claim a fake Arab/Moorish origin thinking it make them look great in the eyes of the world,help from Arabs(sic) and benefits from their Sinhalese masters to whom they fawn. When Tamils state the truth accuse them of being anti Islamic and casteist. What is anti Islamic in stating the truth that the Sri Lankan Muslims are nor of Arab descend but largely descended from Low caste Indian Tamil Hindu converts. It is the truth and even Islam teaches you to tell the truth and lie. It is you and the rest of the Muslims in Sri Lanka who are anti Islamic by denying your origin for petty benefits. Stop lying and being pathetic

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      sorry state the truth and not lie ” not state the truth and lie”

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      Real Siva Sankaran, (siva..siav lingam)

      “Hate their Tamil origin and for political convenience deny it and claim a fake Arab/Moorish”

      By your above comment, you agree that Arabs are superior to Tamils?

      If Indian Tamils are low caste, why do your high caste Tamils (from Jaffna) are living as refugees and working as slaves under low caste Tamils in Tamil Nadu?

      I also heard that once high caste Tamils step on to rusty little roofless boats with the intention to reach EU / AU illegally and to do all menial works for the white masters there, and also involving in all possible petty crimes to earn some part time income, ‘they immediately become low caste’ as per your belief – Is true?

      After your Jaffna refugee women being bred by those Indian Tamils of any caste and every caste, your caste system is collapsed like your ‘peelam dream’ – True?

      Why do you think EU / AU welcomes Arab refugees while sending your so-called ‘high caste Tamils back home? – They don’t trust you or just they are not lovers of ‘ugly black apes’?

      What is the percentage of your so called ‘high caste Tamils’ live a respectful life and others as refugees in SL, India, EU, AU and the moon? – 10% against 90% refugees?

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        Isharath

        “By your above comment, you agree that Arabs are superior to Tamils? “

        Indeed the Arabs/Muslims are superior to Tamils when you compare the scale of their respective self inflicted destruction through out the middle east and elsewhere. One cannot even begin to imagine how Arabs/Muslims managed to bring such a humongous destruction upon themselves. Even the stupid Tamils would concede they cannot match the Arabs/Muslims in this respect.

        Perhaps the 22 Arab countries or 50 Muslim Majority countries must have contributed vastly to the scale of their own self destruction, because they thought they were superior to Tamils.

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          Native Vedda,

          So ‘superiority calculation’ between Arabs and Tamils are solely based on how far they go to self-destruction?

          But remember, Tamils, just 11% of 2 million Sri Lankan population did such a mass scale destruction to the country before destroying themselves at the end, making more than 50% of their own in refugee camps in different countries, another 20%; no one knows what happened, including Nandikadal case. And the remaining 30% still not seem to have learned any lessons.

          Tamils can easily be jalapenos among Arab capsicums when it comes to self-destruction?

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            Isharath

            Well right now I haven’t got the time to calculate the per capita self-destruction however, I consider it an important exercise to have their (Sinhalese, Tamils, and Arab/Muslims) comparative reality checked periodically.

            We will have to agree on the rules first, stating the hypothesis and defining what constitute stupidity, timelines, testing the hypothesis, … whether during the process any of the parties sought foreign direct involvement to speed up the process, …. etc.

            Is it possible to perform a controlled test?

            Let me have your thoughts(?).

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            Isharath,

            I have the feeling that lately known- [Edited out] Edwin Rodrigo- no second to Mahindapala or the like rabblerousers – have twisted even your basic knowledge. You are not a teenager Isharath,.. you must not listen to the kind of men… not focusing on the crucial issue – which is marching towards reconciliation.

            You say:
            “But remember, Tamils, just 11% of 2 million Sri Lankan population did such a mass scale destruction to the country before destroying themselves at the end, making more than 50% of their own in refugee camps in different countries, another 20%; no one knows what happened, including Nandikadal case. And the remaining 30% still not seem to have learned any lessons”

            Statistics say:
            Sri Lankan Tamils

            Total population
            3,000,000 (estimated; excluding Sri Lankan Moors and Indian Tamils)
            Regions with significant populations
            Sri Lanka 2,270,924 (2012)
            Canada 143,000-200,000
            United Kingdom ~120,000 (2006)
            India ~100,000 (2005)
            Germany ~60,000 (2008)
            France ~50,000 (2008)
            Switzerland ~35,000 (2006)
            Australia ~30,000
            Italy ~25,000[12]
            Malaysia ~24,436 (1970)
            Netherlands ~20,000
            Norway ~10,000 (2000)
            Denmark ~9,000 (2003)

            Some of above numbers are clearly wrong, but we can still have an idea how the tamils (lanken origin) have scatted in the world.

            That much of tamils in refugee camps ? I think you may be suffering from the worst state of Alzheimer to have forgotten the real numbers easily.

            Besides, if you attack tamils, you should also be able to attack SInhalaese. Even today, we the sinhalaya hve been unable to even handle local garbage and let own people die by such man made disasters. If we the sinhalaya today point the finger at tamils, we should also do the it towards us.
            And Muslims are no better. I think they are the worst in this country. THey let their highy abusive corrupted politcians to ruin their community.
            At the time Ryzanna – 17 year old housemaid girl was beheaded by Arabs, where had you been IH ? SURELY YOU HAD BEEN WARDED for YOUR NEUROLOGICAL PROBLEMS ?

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              Dan Fernando,

              “Besides, if you attack tamils, you should also be able to attack SInhalaese”

              Sorry mate I am hiding myself in a ‘biththara katuwa’ in fear of Sinhalese.. LOL. Idiot is an idiot be it Sinhalese or Tamils.

              But I still thinking where you should fit yourself in.

              I don’t know if you are really a ‘kewum idiot’ or part of boat-people acting alike a Sinhalese. Whatever, Before you point at Muslims not doing anything for Rizana, you should point your fingers at SL Govt that did nothing or Saudi Govt took no notice of whatever the SL govt said.

              For Saudi Govt, SL is not even worth of peanuts since they know these modayas will continue to send their maids to work despite them killing or nailing their poor maids. Rizana is seen as a Sri Lankan first, and then Muslim – Saudi king chopped his own grandson’s head off, who is Rizana in front of their law?

              As a Sri Lankan and a member of majority, you should be ashamed of yourself relating this matter to a particular religion. Or, have you been thinking there are different embassies in Saudi representing each of Sri Lankan community separately?

              To see who is worst in the country, below are some of sample crimes from the news papers:

              1: Son rapes mother
              2: Father rapes daughter
              3: Grandson rapes grandma
              4: Father killed wife and 2 year old infant for his mistress
              5: Mother and paramour killed an infact as it was disturbing their fornication session
              6: Every month at least more than 10 new borns found in the garbage bin or public drainage
              7: More than 2k illegal abortions among school girls
              8: Son killed father for land dispute
              9: Son killed mother,,,brother killed brother..etc

              When you carry a lots of shit in your head, you are trying to point fingers at other, you piece of shit?

              “SURELY YOU HAD BEEN WARDED for YOUR NEUROLOGICAL PROBLEMS?” How can you be so sure? Thank God you did not think that I was having nice time with your spouse, which was also possible with your displayed IQ :)

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                what a low life not being able to differentiate it correctly.

                “1: Son rapes mother
                2: Father rapes daughter
                3: Grandson rapes grandma
                4: Father killed wife and 2 year old infant for his mistress
                5: Mother and paramour killed an infact as it was disturbing their fornication session
                6: Every month at least more than 10 new borns found in the garbage bin or public drainage
                7: More than 2k illegal abortions among school girls
                8: Son killed father for land dispute
                9: Son killed mother,,,brother killed brother..etc

                The kind of crimes, you cant avoid any other coutries too.
                But what matters is the numbers.

                Yes many of the mentioned crimes are on a rise today than had been few decades ago. This has lot to do with global trends with IT revolution.

                Anyways, lanken Muslims in general they live like not wanting to work for their communities. Ryzanna case was the best example. Most of the men in active politcs today are the asslickers of their seniors and even sinhala leaders. We perfectly know that these leaders were like so servile to Rajapakshe idiots in previous govt. Best example – the most abusive among all the muslim politician is Azwer. He would even let his wife to have a fuck with Rajaakshe. He was so low as any human being would fall into. He has still been doing it even if you the low lives not considering the kind of acts.

                Unlike few families majority of Mulims in the country go after Allah only. They dont fight for their rights. Why ?

                Your person and the knowledge proves by itself – “Thank God you did not think that I was having nice time with your spouse, which was also possible with your displayed IQ :”

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                  Dan Fernando,

                  “The kind of crimes, you cant avoid any other coutries too.
                  But what matters is the numbers.

                  Yes many of the mentioned crimes are on a rise today than had been few decades ago. This has lot to do with global trends with IT revolution”

                  What? “IT revolution”… Ayye, are you always such an idiot, or do you just show off when I’m around? LOL

                  .. why didn’t you select Global Warming instead? :) he..he. You made my day – That is the end of that topic, thanks for being funny.

                  Regarding the politicians, please don’t try to attack or arous me on that as I have the same opinion as you.

                  About Rizana, it is utter shame on SL govt and its inability and the importance given by other governments to ours. So if you represent majority community, you should take a bigger bite of that shame as a Sri Lankan.

                  If UK / US can save their death-row mates, why not SL?

                  Have fun now, go..go..goooo

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                    Isharath, atleast respect the facts I have added above the demographical distributions of the lanken tamils in and out of the country. That can help you and your surival on this platform. We perfectly know CT is not for the idiots of your nature.
                    You just add your thoughts as your filthy tongue allow them, not being able to respect EVEN the facts.
                    The kind of ponnayas have been the majority in today s social media.

                    Rhysana – 17 year old girl would have been alive by today, if your political leaders had guts to fight for her life.
                    Current men in power have saved the life of the like minded women, having fought their lives -whole heartedly. This is a fact.
                    Former minister of justice was a back licker of Mahinda Jarapakshe.
                    He never wanted to do the least to your community.
                    Please wake up from your cocoon and fight for your folks. Just addiing your garbage to CT or the like forums cant help you further.

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                      Dan Fernando,

                      You’re forcing me to accept what you say without any supporting docs or evidence. If not, you call me idiot? ‘aney ayye…’

                      Why are you stubborn with Rizana case and keep on mentioning ‘your political leaders’ repeatedly? Do you still think that a small political party’s leader or a just minister could achieve something that the president could not? You think racism and religion works with every country’s political system, just like it does here in SL?

                      Thanks for helping me understand that there are some remarkably dumb people in this world. Anyway, stupidity’s not a crime, so enjoy it!

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                    Yes, RSS is right at least to some extent, when reading your Posts, I feel – you should be a born bastard isarath.. go and lick the balls of your seniors politcians for all the negligence that they have formed not serving the muslim community adequately.

                    Why you the big mouths cant stand against those leading muslim men in the country – let alone today ?

                    Just to counter attack the messenger cant help you further man ? Just do some thing for your community Iserath the bitch’s son.

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                      Dan Fernando,

                      You’re still funny ayye…

                      I don’t take funny people serious :)

                      Request: When someone attacks a venomous snake, please don’t come in the middle.

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        Most probably you do not read his comment low or have a very poor understanding of English or a low IQ. Most probably a combination of all this and like a typical Sri Lankan Muslim to deliberately misinterpret his remark.
        Did he ever state all Indian Tamils are of low caste? He stated Sri Lankan Muslims are largely descended from low caste Indian Tamil Hindu converts. Vast difference.
        He never stated that Arabs are superior to Tamils, he is only stating and implying this is only in the Sri Lankan Muslims mindset, as they are ashamed of their actual origin. This is not only what he thinks but everyone else. It only a person who is ashamed of their actual origin or heritage will go around shamelessly claiming another origin and heritage, thinking that I is advantageous. The only people doing this are the Sri Lankan Muslims and not the Tamils. Tamils are very proud of their ancient rich Dravidian origin and heritage. Even the low caste ones. Even in India it is only the Tamil people who never go around claiming imagined origins.
        Lastly More than a million Sri Lankan Tamils were given refuge and asylum in the west. The Sri Lankan Tamil population is only around 3.5- 4 million throughout the world and the west gave more than 25% of them refuge, as they knew that they will make good hardworking immigrants. Compare this to the amount of Arabs fleeing and how many are given asylum. Very little. Most western countries return them or do not want them, as they are trouble on the long run. Most of the so called Sri Lankan Tamils returned are not Tamil but pretend Tamils. Sinhalese and Muslims. You are still running down the Tamils and fawning to the Arabs. Your comment is oozing with Tamil hatred and Arab worship. Shameless person

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          Rohan,

          I thought you took my last good advice and left the land on a rusty boat to serve white masters in the fuel stations during the daytime, and steal their credit cards in the evening hours, leaving SL for the respectful. To my surprise, you have just popped up as an English teacher this time.

          That comment was a bit too long to invest and seems same old BS from you the ‘rusty boat’s illegal human apes’ who have nothing more to talk. Would you repost shortening it, please? Then definitely you a get a reply.

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            Pandi Kutti will make it short so that you can understand. ” Oink Oink Boink Boink”.
            Sri Lankan Muslim hate Tamil mummy daddy thinks Tamil mummy daddy very poor and no use but love Arab coca as Muslim thinks Arab meat is juicy tasty and will feed Sri Lankan Muslim.
            Being Tamil bad as Sinhalese will hit and no Arab meat for food. Sri Lankan Muslim cannot return to Mother India, as mother India very poor just like the movie, so decide to worship Arab coca and feed on it. Understood? There Pandi Kutti made is short and sweet.

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              Pandi Kutti, sounds reincarnation of a fat pandi that was mercilessly killed by heroic forces when the fat pandi shamelessly hiding among the apes by the Nandikadal in fear of life. Or are you a side shot of the Nandikadal Zero?

              big mama of all Pandi Kutti died recently leaving the tasks of safe guarding her kutties back in their peelam with many TN uncles like Vaiko, Vijayakanth and all possible clowns.

              Why not go back to your homeland with citizenship (I know most of you guys are refugees there now), the Tamil Nadu and leave the decent Sinhalese and Muslims to develop the country? It is in your genes and the blood that you pandy kutties enjoy the camp lives :)

              Or with the help of our Arab nation’s money we can make too many camps for you to live in there. Trust, we will also make sure one Tamil Film theatre with back-to-back shows and couple of Dosa & Sambar shops in the camps. But within camps, we won’t help you get forged school certs and passports to get into EU.

              What you say,

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                Oink Oink. Actually Tamil Nadu and Kerala are the homeland of the vast majority of present day Sinhalese and Sri Lankan Muslims and not the Sri Lankan Tamils. You can return to the slums of Tamil Nadu from where your ancestors originated from. The Sinhalese do not want you, in fact most of them hate and scorn Sri Lankan Muslims far more than the Tamils. At least we tolerate you but they will never. They are only using you low caste immigrant converts from Tamil Nadu to subdue the native Tamils. I notice that you still worship Arab Coca. Arab say Sri Lankan Muslim not Arab but South Asian convert to Islam. Oink Oink

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          Rohan,

          Muslims in the EP are of the view if conditions here are created – with the help of Sinhala extremists in government and the armed forces through force, did-possession etc., – the indigenous Tamil population in the NEP can be brought down to “manageable levels” – an old dream of DS, RG, Hector Kobbekaduwa and company. This will, conveniently, make Muslims claimant to No.1 status in the North as well. They are already No.1 in the East. This will fit in with the Agenda of Pakistan that has the support of their close friend China – to surround the Southern tip of India from the NEP. Regional and global power play is already in action and the Muslims are ready to oblige where the dice is loaded to their advantage. Bad news for Muslims is that alert India is wise to the conspiracy and will not take matters lying down.

          Is this part of the reason for Hussain’s sudden verbal diarrhea?

          Backlash

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            They are only number one in the east because the Sinhalese racists are helping them. This is why they, as well as the Sinhalese racists do not want the Tamil refugee population in India, largely from the east returning, as this ethnic balance in the east will tilt back to the Tamils. Any referendum regarding the north and east should include these Tamil refugees in India. You can see that extremist Arab worshiping Isharath screeching that Tamils refugees in India should remain in India and never return. This is the reason.

            In the north they are trying to use the plight of the genuine Muslim IDPS who only number around 65000, to settle hundreds of thousands of out of area Muslims who have nothing to do with the north and east, from places like Beruwela, Kurunegala , in sparsely populated Tamil majority areas like Mannar, vavuniya, Mullaitheevu Killinochchi, especially along the strategic north western coast along Wilpattu and the north eastern coasts. Like you stated this done by certain Islamic nations to surround South India with these hostile Muslims. Lots of funds are being provided by the Gulf Arab nations for the Islamisation of the ancient Eelam Tamil Hindu North. They think they have achieved their aim in the east with Sinhalese help.
            Like what you stated this is why Izazath and the rest of the Muslim columnists and bloggers are screeching here very aggressively. They now think it is the most opportune time to steal the Eelam Tamil people’s land for their converted immigrant community from Tamil Nadu and create an Islamic homeland here. They could not do this in their homeland in Tamil Nadu and think that can do it here thanks to Sinhalese racists. The short sighted Sinhalese racists do not know what they are in for. The Tamil North and East is the beginning

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              Rohan,

              Don’t you know who the best worshippers of master are? White Masters?

              It was you guys who are experts in worshipping White Colonial Masters. Ass-licking was the tactics you guys used to sideline the Sinhalese to learn English from the masters to keep your importance and dominance in the administration. (Brahmin style, they only should learn)

              One fine day, the masters you worshiped and a-s-licked took you guys for a royal ride and gave the country to Sinhalese and left.

              Then comes the next ride from Sinhalese, Sinhala Only Act in 1956, to make your subordinates and the dumb ones your bosses or above you, and all your Royal a-s-licking going in vain.

              Why you guys were still taken for too many short rides in between, next major ride was in 2009.

              My questions:

              What is fundamentally wrong with you guys to be always on the victime and refugee side despite you claim you had landed in SL 2000 years before, that is even before Sinhalese?

              Was there any reproduction issues linked only with your community? (Otherwise landing in SL 2k years back and still being minority?)

              Or, was it your caste system prohibited you from enough reproduction activities? OR waited for Brahmin women to breed and got old? LOL

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        Actually Muslims are the most hated people in the Western world. Muslim refugee crisis is one of the biggest reasons for resurgence of White nationalism in the West. Muslims/Middle Easterners/Pakistanis are seen as backward and intolerant religious extremists, terrorists, who groom little white girls for sex abuse and commit honour killings against their daughters and sisters. Refer to Trump’s Muslim ban.
        Who calls Tamils ‘black apes’ other than prejudiced violent Jihadists like yourself (that is if you’re not a Sinhala troll hiding under Muslim name) who would have owned African slaves back in the day? Westerners have left that kind of mentality in the past but if people like you want to go back in time perhaps these civilised people can help you build a time machine to transport back to 7th century Arabia?

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    Real Siva Sankaran,

    Ha..ha you think copy-pasting the same comment on hundreds of CT comments make your claim real? If that satisfies you, please keep doing it, and Muslims have no issues. Remember, even millions of comments can’t change the truth, history and so-said DNA. Even DNA is too much of hassle, just get the help of your eyes and mirror and see the differences between Tamils and Muslims to start with.

    On the other hands, why Muslims don’t like to be identified as Tamils? Other than the historical factors, there is also brand issue comes in. Is there any pride in associating ourselves with infamous ‘rusty boat people’ who knew nothing about getting along with other communities?

    Caste centric with the mindset not getting along with other communities is a curse for Tamils, that made and is still making more than 80% of them living in others’ mercy in many different countries including SL (a country they used to call their homeland) – Any pride?

    A community that has been selling civil war and tarnishing the nation for their own greed – Any pride?

    A community that has been insulting the part of their own calling low caste when it is the very so called low caste Tamils in India who still fight and gave refugee for funny so called high caste – You want us to associate ourselves with your community with no gratitude?

    People like you with such lowest qualities while shamelessly calling yourselves ‘high castes’, Nandi Kadal is the best solution

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      If you do not like to be identified with Tamils. Do not speak Tamil do not try to steal Tamil lands and claim ownership to their lands. Instead grunt and squeal like a pandi kutti “oink oink “as this noise suits you and also move to your Islamic heaven Saudi Arabia, as you all love to bend down and worship Arab coca. Arabs love to watch mud wrestling just like pandi kutti loves to wallow in the mud

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        Sorry mate Pandy-Kutti (or piglet of peckerhead Pirabakaran, the ex-commander of Pig Farm, Peelam’s Army)

        Tamil Language? that shitty dying language is the biggest mistake of Arab descendent Muslims’s mistake. But now we understood, no one educates kids or at present many Muslims started to avoid using that lang in public.

        If we talk in that language in SL, people look at with suspicion as if we too are defeated ‘pig farm peelam’ supporters. Out of SL, surely others will suspect us part of ‘boat people’ or credit card skimmers.

        Honestly pandi-kutti (piglet), were you camouflaging yourself to look like ‘Matu-kutti’ (calf) to avoid becoming part of kottu-rotti at the Nandikadal?

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          No body wants to associate or move with Jehadist Arab worshipping Muslim like you. However Tamil immigrants are appreciated valued and very well assimilated. Even the children of poor non English speaking Tamil refugees are now tertiary educated professionals. However most Muslim migrants in many western lands largely live in poverty stricken ghettos, even after living there for tow/three generations. All they do is produce huge families, largely live on welfare and create problems.

          In the Middle East and in the west Sri Lankan Muslim pandi kutties like you running around and pathetically claiming Arab descent, whilst looking like a typical South Asian , are the but of everyone’s jokes. Even the Arabs.

          One Muslim Kurdish friend of mine who is in charge of recruiting interpreters told me some of the most unpleasant people he has dealt with are the Sri Lankan Muslims. He laughed and stated they want employment as Tamil interpreters but claim they are not Tamil but of Arab descent. He stated he finally could not bear this and told one of them you want employment interpreting in Tamil, yet you claim not to be a Tamil but of Arab heritage, however you look like a typical Tamil or Indian not an Arab.
          He employed him as a Tamil interpreter and forgot about the incident until he got a letter from the head office stating this Sri Lankan Muslim had complained against him, stating that he was anti Islamic and laughed when the interpreter stated that he was Arab. Of course the case was thrown out as being frivolous. The biggest joke is I am a Kurdish Muslim and he called me anti Muslim for correctly stating that he is a Tamil and not Arab.

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            Real Siva Sankaran Sarma,

            To make your long story short, more you educate your kids, happier we are. And at least the world is bit safer then.

            If Muslim does not study, he ends up in many ways, including terrorist. But your case is with limited options, camps, jails or being a human-bombs.

            NOTE: by the way, you tarnish me, and I do the same to you back. What is achieved? End of it, we both make fun of human-being. Look so uncivilized?

            Just imagine the people who care nothing about religion or communities, but unfortunately, they are either Muslim or Tamil just because their parents are.

            Better stop thin nonsense, and grow up

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          Clown there is nothing Arabic about you Sri Lankan Muslims. A few Arab sailors may have gang banged some Tamil harlots and produced a few hundred bastards. That is the extent of Arab amongst you Sri Lankan Muslims. Nothing to write home about and definitely nothing to be proud about. Only pathetic creatures like you will be proud of this and falsely claim this as an exclusive origin heritage.

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            Pandikutti,
            did you have performed DNA test to see it black and white ?

            Why they are blessed with a fair complexion than you guys tamils ?

            I believe they the lanken muslims may have been mixed with Morroccans.

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              Change your spectacles or you must be colour blind. Please get your eyes tested you poor thing. I did test my DNA and it is pure Pig. Berkshire too. Oink Oink. You like Bacon? Ham?
              People from the southern part of Morocco are not Berber but heavily mixed with Africans, may the ancestors of the Sri Lankan Muslims are from that part of Morocco

              Love Pandikutti Wallowing in my mud bath.

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            Pandikutti,

            While history speaks for ourselves along with DNA, we care nothing about it. One thing I am very proud is that you guys don’t seem to have anything other than that.

            See now, god has given you another life, by not keeping you by your Godfather Pirabakaran, the guy who screwed up everything for your side, even the bit of dignity you had, your hard-earned, credit card skimmed money or stolen money from EU / AU that you invested in ‘peelam makeshift saving banks’, everything…everything including some of your few educated people during these times.

            Gone is gone. There is no point is trying to show your muscles to another minority through CT comments. Grow up, build everything from scratch and come with dignity, then we (Sinhalese and Muslims) will accept you.

            Now no use of any noise when you have been made to dust. God bless SL forces to get rid SL of these blood thirsty warmonger and I pray every day for the rest of living Tiger supporters and sympathizers like our Pandikutti, maatukutty, aatu kutty, naai kutty and every funny kutty to become a true Sri Lankan, and forget ‘peelam’ which has always been a dream.

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      What do you think of caste discrimination in Muslim Pakistan and Bangladesh? What about the former slave black Arabs in Saudi Arabia and the rest of Gulf?

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      Useless w-nker, your backstabbing immigrant community from Tamil Nadu joined the Sinhalese in their genocidal dance and killed raped looted and ethnically cleansed hundreds of thousands of Tamils from their lands and forced them flee and now coming here and gloating about this,

      Your ancestors were kicked out of South India and when they ran to the island it was the Sri Lankan Tamils who gave refuge to them. Not only then when you had to flee Portuguese persecution the Sinhalese did not want you and kicked you good for nothings, you again ran to the Tamil lands in the east for refuge.
      You cried to us, “Give us refuge, give us land, give us women to start a family as we have nothing and was are also Tamil”. Now you repay our kindness by denying your Tamil origin and joining with Sinhalese racists to kill rape and steal our land.

      We have a land where we have lived and ruled for more than 2000 years. It is you low caste converts from South India, who do not have a land and are trying to steal ours with the help of the Sinhalese.
      Calling us refuges when it was your own ancestors who ran from India as refugees in wooden boats called in Tamil Marrakallam. Then ran for refuge from Portuguese persecution.

      Tamil when it suits you and not a Tamil at other times. Your ethnicity changes to suit your advantage. When you came begging for refuge when you fled India you were Tamils. When you fled Portuguese persecution and wanted refuge in the Tamil east you were Tamil again. Sri Lankan Muslim wankers run to the west and beg for asylum stating we are ethnic Tamil Muslims from Sri Lankan fleeing Sinhalese persecution.

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        Real Siva Sankaran Sarma (or Really Siva’s Linga),

        “We have a land where we have lived and ruled for more than 2000 years”

        When you people try to alter Muslim’s history to your advantage, when you people get onto rusty boats that are not even suitable for being used in cleaning Beira lakes to land in EU / AU for your own greed tarnishing country’s image all around the world, how can I trust you had history of 2000 years?

        If you have had such a long-term relation with a country, will you tarnish its name for just menial purposes?

        And it doesn’t end there, even after illegally landing those countries, you people involve in all sorts of crimes and illegal activities from petty credit card skimming to killings.

        Just Google ‘Sri Lankan Tamil crimes’ and all your recent records will come out page after page.

        Instead of trying to tarnish other communities and Sri Lanka, why not think of improving your own community, if what you said about 2000 years is true. If this is true, unfortunately, what you have achieved as a community is in opposite direction to live in camps in a country where you have 2000 years of history.

        Am I wrong? If I were you, I would look for Pandy-Kutti’s hero’s corpse and kill him again for putting us in this situation

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      Isharath

      “People like you with such lowest qualities while shamelessly calling yourselves ‘high castes’, Nandi Kadal is the best solution “

      Are you going to personally see to it that whoever happens to disagree with you is given a Nandi Kadal solution?

      Peace be upon you.

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        Native Vedda,

        You seem to be a decent guy, keep away, please. Don’t get yourself mixed with these pandy-kutties

        Cheers

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          Isharath

          “You seem to be a decent guy, keep away, please. Don’t get yourself mixed with these pandy-kutties”

          If I refuse to keep away will you pronounce a fatwa and give me a Nandi Kadal solution?

          Peace be upon you.

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            Native Vedda,

            Alright, you’re in too. Nandi Kadal solution? Oh sorry, I have been thinking it was only a celebration, not a solution. At least that was what I witnessed in other parts of the country with rice pudding or milk-rice shared at every street corner.

            Don’t you know that Sri Lankans traditionally serve those in celebrations and auspicious moments? If you knew any other moments please educate me.

            Trust me, I never gave any fatwa for the Nandikadal incidents and usually fatwas not issued for celebrations. If you knew any other moments fatwas issued please educate me, will you?

            So now you know it is a celebration, not a solution – Do you still like it?

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    Hussein is inviting further attacks on him by his irrelevant analogies. Bensen

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    Most Muslims in Sri Lanka do not wish to be identified as Tamils, although none of them would have come to being without a Tamil mother at any time of their past. Its time for them to think rationally and do politics against the Tamils.

    They should bear in mind that long before their Arab Fathers landed our shores this land was called Elam and any attempt to cast aspersions to the Nationalist claims of Tamils would only mean that a claim for Muslims on this land as homeland holds no logic or reasonable grounds for such claims.

    I wish common sense dictate our politics more than irresponsible blah blah.

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      Only a very small percentage are descended from these half caste part Arab part Tamil bastards. Product of a few hundred Arab sailors/traders having fun with loose moral low caste Tamil women. The vast overwhelming majority of them are descended from largely low caste Tamil Hindus in Tamil Nadu and then Tamil Kerala converting to Islam to escape the Hindu caste system. This is basically the truth.

      When challenged to produce proof of Arab origin for the Sri Lankan Muslims, the so called Moors Islamic council could only provide proof of a distant male Arab ancestor or two for a few hundred families. This means being very generous a population of around 40000 amongst a population of 2 million Sri Lankan Muslims or Moors as they love to call themselves. Not even 2% even amongst these two percent the rest of the ancestors we all Tamils.

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      conts

      This is like the part European Christin Burgher population that numbered around 40000 the most, stating and claiming the entire 2 million strong Sri Lankan Christian population which is basically Sinhalese and Tamil Christian are all descended from Europeans. Neither the Burghers or the Sinhalese or Tamil Christians were stupid enough to make this outrageous claim. People would have laughed at this. However this outrageous pure Arab origin claim of these Sri Lankan Muslim wa-kers was entertained by the British and then the Sinhalese solely to divide and rule the Tamils.
      Most Burghers looked very similar to their European male ancestors, however other than a small percentage of the Sri Lankan Muslims, largely from their rich southern elite 995% of the Sri Lankan Muslims look like Tamils who they are.
      The light skin of this rich southern elite is largely using their wealth to selectively choose light skinned Tamil Muslim other Muslims and at times white European women as their partners over many generations. The Muslim masses look typically like ordinary Tamils

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    where is Edwin Rodrigo?

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    Izeth have you really concluded?
    I wont be surprised if you pen another one

    Clarification on the Conclusion.

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    Reading this piece of Izeth makes one wonder whether to laugh or cry. Hussain has written some poor articles in the past. This must come out as one of his worst. As several readers have commented, he desperately tries to fill the pages for his weekly column with poor material. It is apparent he is running out of subjects.

    The whole piece is nothing but a comical effort both to raise him to a high level of imagined importance. The other to gain Muslim reader’s sympathy. It is common knowledge the much feared and well-oiled LTTE goes after VVIP’s like Rajiv Gandhi, R. Premadasa, Neelan Tiruchelvam, Gamini Dissanayake and others. They, or rather what is left of them – if any, clearly have no time for nobodies with bloated egos – including unimportant ex-diplomats resorting to the “F” word as a last resort.

    Just as much nonsense is the concocted charge Christian groups, Israelis or the Norwegians are after him, the ageing nondescript is clearly out to gain attention. This is simply not there for him.

    The best is to leave the old man alone to continue his weekly blabber. His pen has long lost its sting. It is only abuse, threats and innuendo that keeps him going as he totters in the evening of his life.

    Backlash

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      Backie boy – read Kingsley Dharmaratne on August 18 at 5.25 pm. Keep barking Backie boy. The IH juggernaut keeps moving – IH

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    Ambassador Izzeth Hussein roles on as an unstoppable juggernaut , articulating his views with a flow of ideas and language seldom seen in the columns of the Colombo Telegraph.It is simply scintillating!He is completely at home on a range of subjects just as Don Bradman was on any type of wicket.If such rare talent is sand in the eyes of some nondescript Kettikaran,Mailluryan,Sivasankaran Sarma etc so be it.For an extraordinarily gifted man and English ( Hons.) graduate of the University of Ceylon, such poisonous barbs would only remind him of that hackneyed truism “The (pariah) dogs may bark but the caravan moves on”It would only spur him on.It seems clear he will continue to write with or without Ketti,Mutti or Chetti!

    Keep the writings flowing inexorably dear Mr. IH.

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      Kingsley Dharmaratne

      Wonder whether Izeth Hussain ever thought of aging gracefully? Sometimes it helps to keep peace within oneself and in the surrounding.

      Please let him know that

      Silence is the sleep that nourishes wisdom.

      – Francis Bacon (1561 – 1626)

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        Dear distinguished Native Veddah,

        I tend to agree with Bacon’s wisdom but only sometimes.Why?If he were to be taken as nothing but the rule then how will we have the privilege of reading those excellent comments you make ? So please keep those nuggets rolling along ,Sir.

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          Kingsley Dharmaratne

          “Dear distinguished Native Veddah,”

          I can spot a phony when I see one. Hang on let me secure my pockets, mobile, and man bag.

          Flattery is like chewing gum. Enjoy it but don’t swallow it.
          – Hank Ketcham

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            Dear Extinguished Native Veddah,

            Aren’t you getting a little ahead of yourself on an ego trip?We have heard many stories of flattering a Suddah but nobody in his right mind would bother with flattering a mere Veddah.

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              Kingsley Dharmaratne

              “Aren’t you getting a little ahead of yourself on an ego trip?”

              What I was trying politely to suggest was “I do not suffer fools gladly”. If it sounded an ego trip to you, I am sorry I should have made my comment less hard to understand.

              “We have heard many stories of flattering a Suddah but nobody in his right mind would bother with flattering a mere Veddah.”

              Precisely for that reason I was cautious, and wanted to secure my pockets, mobile, my b***s and man bag.

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                Native Veddah

                Permit me to put it more simply.:you still assume my commment was flattery.Perish the thought.What can you achieve by doing that to a poor, ever suffering ,,always in need homeless .Nothing.The tribe hardly gets mentioned anywhere. Those ” assets ” you claim are barely assets at all!But one can always dream they are!

                But flattering a Suddah is entirely a different matter!!Unfortunately,the Veddah can at best only dream at being in this privileged class.

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          Are you talking of the bacon that some Muslims I know eats with relish? For someone who did not go to the University of Ceylon, you seem to like bacon.

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        Native Vedda – aging gracefully? But I am having a dam good time – IH

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          izeth hussain

          “But I am having a dam good time”

          Congratulation.

          Did you mean you are have been barred from having a good time or the rubber sheet used to keep saliva from the teeth during dental operations, or as a prophylactic device during cunnilingus and anilingus?

          Or did you mean damn good time?

          You have to be bit careful especially at your age, every bit you type is subject to serious scrutiny, …

          Your ability to think, type and be reasonable would be repeatedly called into question, not that it would be new experience for you.

          Have a Dam Good Time.

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            Native
            “Your ability to think, type and be reasonable would be repeatedly called into question, not that it would be new experience for you”

            Dementia affects the insight on affected person’s ability to understand the big picture and manifests with acts of repetition. For example, keep coming to the same topic over and over again.

            I concur, Izeth should be having a good time!. However, Colombo telegraph Editors need to take notice of the damage caused to the peaceful existence between communities.

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            Dear Native Veddah,

            there are no many like you on this platform to add constructive comments.

            I thank you for that. Edwin Rodrigo has smeared the CT platform as no other.

            That is sad to see. I will stop from adding my POSTs to this page next days on.

            ICH DANKE DIR VIEL MALS- Alles Gute aus Berlin.

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          “But I am having a dam good time – IH “

          but your posts prove the ground realities of your aging. You should have suffered your youth – that is why you behave like a child today. Your posts donot seem reflecting your long driven diplomatic carrier.

          As any other geriatric men, you too seem to be suffering from younger day memories. older you become, more of your earlier memeories come up while the recent past memories distance from you. Latter is common to human beings according to human biology.

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      Only racist (pariah) dogs of the southern variety appreciate the rantings of this lunatic. You must be one of these real Sinhalese racist hounds that love all this racist garbage that he throws and titillates you with. I can imagine your tail wagging and your tongue out and salivating like a good Sinhalese hound, waiting for your loony master’s next command

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        Pandikutti,

        Were you ever been a kutti to any LTTE cadres?

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      Does Kingsley Dharmaratne suggest the lowly “Fuck Off” – used recently
      by ex-diplomat Hussain – is the “language seldom seen in the columns of the Colombo Telegraph” Or are you Hussein writing under a Sinhala name?
      I have a better opinion of other regular writers in the CT.

      Backlash

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        Most probably it is Izzeth. Monkey praising his own tail

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        Backie boy – you seem to have missed a clarification I made earlier. Or is it that you are in such a state of mad dog rage that you just can’t understand anything.The clarification was that dealing with the likes of you is like attending to my toilet needs in the mornings.Diplomatic finesse is not for the toilet bowl! Therefore – Fuck off! You don’t seem to understand that.Let’s try something else. Since you are notorious for your stinky backflashes and excreta is your element, my friendly advice to you is this – Shit off! – IH

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          Rub Off -Not Fuck Off

          Izeth, I always thought you were a reasonable man. I know that that these Tiger Rumpers are bothering you. But it is not fair to say ‘fuck off’ to them, knowing very well that half of their tete has been lopped off. I think you should change it to ‘rub off’, because that is all they can do with their 50% tetes.

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            Edwin Rodrigo – is this queen ‘s language ? Why not you learn English before joining to this forum.

            Rub off –

            Fuck off – your meanings are far from what IH meant above (zeth hussain
            April 18, 2017 at 9:23 pm
            Reply)

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              Lady, Samma Vaca, Samma Vaca. Follow Samma Vaca (the Right Speech), if you want to end Samsara.

              At Buddha’s time there was no written word. So please include Samma Vaca to mean right writing too.

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                Please leave Buddhas Teachings aside for our sake. That are no means a match to you or the like minded low lives -like a square peg in a round hole – . You should better follow Sartan’s – that can truly encourage your spirit. “Samma Vaacha” should come from fulfilled personalities. You behave like a teenage who is caught by hormone inbalance. We studied your posts properly and got to know how devious you could be.

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                  Crimes Against Humanity

                  Darunuwathi, you must be one of the Birds of Freedom who during the Eelem wars, used to raid poor Sinhalese villages in the Vanni and East, and kill infants by holding them by their two feet and dashing them against trees. It was cheaper than using a bullet. These were not considered as human rights violations because they were done by ‘freedom’ fighters.

                  The UNHCR and the ICJ are not interested in people trying to save money by resorting to ‘petty crimes’ like that. Nor are they interested in the 1000s killed by big powers because they are not killing their own citizens. The victims were all non combatants in foreign lands 1000s of miles away. They were classified as collateral damage – the eggs that had to be broken to make the omelets.

                  They are only interested in punishing small governments trying to defend their nations from freedom fighters.

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          Izeth Hussain,

          Is this the result of many decades of diplomacy??? Is it your cultural or family background that is on display here. Or is the recent decline the result of your Bhai-Bhai with Pissu Edda. [Edited out]

          Backlash

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            Forgive him for age has made him lose his marbles. Without marbles, you can’t do much. That is his frustration.

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              “losing the tip at a young age and then the marble”

              growing a beard does not compensate.

              no wonder the whole world is held hostage by the frustrated Muslim terrorist.

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            Backlash,

            I cant agree with you more. I really thought the way he writes today is far from his previous post – going back to few years ago. I think his both ends should have been cross wandered in the course of time him to behave this way. Besides, low caste buggers of Edwin to join hand with IH and the like men is even festating the wound further.

            IH should better seek for a good psychologist. That can save his soul. Not at all an experienced professional. The kind of men send the wrong message across the globe about lanken muslims -that is really sad.

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      Izeth Hussain

      “If such rare talent is sand in the eyes of some nondescript Kettikaran,Mailluryan,Sivasankaran Sarma etc so be it.”

      Evolution will make then fade away, and their low IQs, castism and stupidity will not be able to stop them fading away.

      Gone with the wind the racism and castism of the Tamil “upper” castes.

      Gone With The Wind – Tear You To Pieces. The Castism and Racism, along with the rump LTTE are being torn to pieces, despite all the noise they are making.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRxfZHr3AxY

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        Amarasiri,

        Favourable comments have been made about you by readers. To maintain that consideration your observations should be neutral – not one sided and unfair. Your judgement on “stupidity” “Low IQs” here are one-sided and give rise to provocation.

        Hussain has been using utterly low profanities in recent times – unbecoming of a gentleman and a man of learning he pretends to be. He has thereby devalued the fair name of CT. Ladies in the readership have been subject to embarrassment by this ex-senior diplomat. Where is your voice against this outrage – if you are a teacher-like person?

        Kettikaran

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          Kettikaran

          Amarasiri chose to be not neutral. It is his choice. May be the low IQ he keeps harping upon haunting him badly!

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    when are you going to stop talking about the past………..

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    The moment I read comments to the effect that I am masquerading as some sort of nom de plume for the inimitable Izzeth Hussein,i neurallgically began to pull my collar up.Alas it had only a polo kneck!I believe the distinguished Ambassador is in his eighties,though his writings suggests those of a much younger person.

    I am happily in my naughty forties!Nevertheless you all have made feel great by assuming I am the great man himself.But may I make myself humble by saying that my English is a product of the University of Sri Lanka and not the University of Ceylon that Mr IH was undoubtedly privileged to attend.But I am thankful for little mercies.

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      Yes Kingsley, I had the same feeling after reading IH ‘s comments. How come ?

      I think the guy has pretended to be a good guy for the several decades since he had then been busy with his diplomatic carrier but today to fall to the level as his posts prove – he should really be a frustrated person…

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      Good friend Hussein threatened a Mother of All Punishments and delivers a mouse – a puss wedilla to use the vernacular. This is not new. The often cursing, bitter, abusive man has done this before.
      It is unfortunate an English daily has encouraged him to attack individuals in their pages – but ah! Then. That has happened before as well. There is nothing fresh to respond here. It is a rehash of Hussain’s earlier complaints on this, that and the other. Predictably, it will continue.

      As other readers have pointed out, the ancient Tamil race, including Tamil Muslims, will survive Hussain and, if necessary, a several million others. Hussain may wish to be viewed separate from the Tamils in the Lankan context but the Tamil in Lankan Muslims cannot be simply wished or washed away – however desperately or hypocritically they try. One of the most respected Tamil Muslims in the world, the late Indian President Abdul Kalam was proud and grateful for his Tamil heritage needs no emphasis. Hussain began against the Tamils, then shifted to Tamil racism and now to Tamil casteist racism.

      “The LTTE – which began the attacks against this writer in the Colombo Telegraph” !!!” This is one more example the man fantasizes his own self-importance to the level of near lunacy. I don’t think the LTTE even knows of the boaster’s existence. He also imagines the Governments of India, Israel, Norway are all after him!!!! Surely, a certain mental condition.

      Kettikaran

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      (2)

      Only two further comments may be relevant here. One is that Hussain’s main worry is the anger of the Muslim community against him for keeping the Muslims in unwelcome central focus week in and week out. This endagers their personal safey and commercial interests throughout the Island. The comparison with piglets, rats was the language publicly used by BBS and the Ravayas. This needs no emphasis. He keeps, blaming Tamils for all his troubles that is obvious from the simultaneous issues he confronts with several here. The other is the foolish comment he made a few years ago, unsolicited, recommending starvation to Tamil civilians during the war. In these very pages, he was exposed for the outrageous comments. Although he obstinately denied his mistake for months, an alert reader provided the incriminating article in the pages of the CT. Any other Writer of some consequence would have apologised. This gentlemanly quality, alas, is outside the cultural make-up of the man.

      “a Sinhalese who has been writing in his defense in the Colombo Telegraph “ is a recent arrival in these columns – whom some call Pissu Edda. I do not wish to bore the readers wasting take time and space. A casual reading of this man will convince those interested the man is a mental retard.

      If I am to hazard a guess Hussain will continue in his strange ways in these pages – irrespective of strong criticism against him. Who expected the senior ex-diplomat to be so foul-mouthed!!!

      Kettikaran

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        Kettie talks of Muslim anger against me. There is not the slightest sign of that. The poor fellow is hallucinating. 2/ He sees Muslim children as “piglets”.The Muslim reaction to that is this: They will kick him all the way to the gallows; soundly horsewhip him there; then hang him to the accompaniment of thunderous applause of Muslims, Sinhalese, and Tamils.They will all be equally agreed that anyone who images a child, any child, as a piglet is a dog-swine who deserves public hanging. Face up to it Kettie boy – for the Tamils also you are a dog-swine. 3/ He claims that an article of mine advocating famine to subdue the Tamils was reproduced in the CT.That’s a point=blank lie. No such article appeared. It’s an example of the shit attack. When cornered he throws shit. 4/ I must remind the reader that in using four letter words I am following the example set by three great English writers – Chaucer, Swift, and Lawrence. Diplomatic finesse is not for Kettie. – IH

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    Bring back the BBS. They will settle all problems that afflict the Muslims.

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      Mama Sinhalam,

      Good idea. But that shows how affected you are with BBS muscle flexing. Why not fund them since LTTE is gone?

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    These are one of the usual many tactics used by Lankawe FM. Izeth was an employee in this ministry. The bullet is flying from the canon of Aappa Diplomacy of Lankawe foreign Services. Tamils have to be alert; the wedge being inserted between Tamils-Muslims- Sinhalese can be deeper and more painful than MMDA, standardization and recruiting Muslims for spy services by Athulathmudali and Old Brother Prince. FM uses writers and spinners to provoke to systematically teach Tamils and Muslims to hate each other. Our solution for the ethnic problem is to create a new Malaysia-Singapore, not India-Pakistan or Pakistan-Bangladesh.

    To come to the Izeth essay,

    Izeth is not simply filthy, but jealous too. He wrote what he learned from FM. He is filthy because :“I and Edwin are engaged in the task of making their buckets boomerang on their faces. My message to them is this: Fuck off!…….MALLA URINE – YOU ARE STINKING UP THE CT WITH YOUR TORRENTS OF URINE. THERE IS A DANGER YOU MIGHT DROWN IN YOUR URINE. ” That is lower than defense ministry’s “Jayalalitha and Manmohan Singh Cartoon”.

    He is jealous because : ” Practically every article by a well-known Sinhalese writer provoked attacks of a very vicious sort. As an intellectual, a writer, and political analyst he is quite exceptional and for that reason alone his writings can be expected to provoke a terrible hatred. In addition he is a political activist who sides with this or that politician or this or that political party, and that of course can be expected to draw flak in ample measure. But the attacks against him have never been racist and have had nothing like the hysterical hatred and mad dog rage characterizing the attacks against the present writer. What was on display was Tamil racism,”

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    What appears going to be there is, if Sinhalese write and post an article, it’s opposed by his perceived attackers. So far, there is nothing hidden as many Sinhala writers substantiate the ablutions of Tamils’ liberators, LTTE, but Tamils do not agree with that. In Addition to it, it appears there is secret quotation for Professor Kumar. That part here is subject to individuals’ interpretation as Izeth was not willing to be open or explicit in his accusation. I am open to listen, if anybody has a correction to my interpretation. The suggestion appears to be Professor Kumar’s articles are favored for soft treatment by these attackers as it is their display of Tamils Casteist Racism.
    But lets us look how Professor Kumar’s articles viewed by the man, Edwin Rodrigo, for his unlimited ability to pumps in filths in I referred him as a man talented at Prophets level, but referred by Izeth as a person carrying out noble cause.
    I will not go in to what kind of Gods because this is my Guru David’s territory and I don’t want to pollute it with those things. But you know what I mean… Animals riding other animals, yeah? yeah? – Edwin
    But I asked Edwin if he can go ahead and pollute Prof. Kumar’s essay too. But there was another commentator, Simon De Silva, called on CT to moderate comments tougher.
    Here Edwin’s reply Don’t worry Simeon, CT is already censoring me completely. None of my comments numbering a half dozen have been posted. Hope this will get through at least as an explanation. He says he would not pollute Irrelevant of CT is these days heavily moderating.

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    So let’s apply our logic here for a conclusion:” Edwin will not pollute Kumar David’s essays just because I, a Casteist Racist, had asked him to pollute Prof. Kumar’s David’s essay. He will not allow me to inflict a crack on his resolve on that. Impliedly, he agrees to have polluted Izeth’s essays, which, though Izeth calls only as carrying out a noble cause. But if the Tamil Pseudonym commentators avoid to attack (only a perceived not proved) Kumar David’s’ essay but target Izeth’s then, Izeth using it as a proof of those Tamil Pseudonym commentators’ Casteist Racism. For Izeth, Edwin’s actions are not a Kerala Mercenary Converted as Kandyan Sinhala Casteism. Isn’t it appears to be there is no Tamil Casteist racism, but Izeth’s low morale jealous?

    I like readers to think over of where the Hindu caste system or Narendra Modi is coming when Izeth is targeting Tamils Christians: There could be a sinister force at work behind some of the Islamophobic attacks against this writer. Our authorities should look into the political dimension of Christian fundamentalist activity in Sri Lanka, particularly in the Tamil areas. This writer was revolted some time ago by a video showing a mass meeting of a Christian fundamentalist group in the Eastern Province in support of the expansionist policy of apartheid Israel.
    What appears here to be Izeth has proved the Tamils Casteist Racism and he is starting to venture into “Islamophobic Christian Fundamentalism”. I used the word venturing because Izeth doesn’t care what he declares like “There could be a sinister force at work behind some of the Islamophobic attacks against this writer “ is having any basis.

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    Brahmin Jokes – 1

    Q: What do you call the only smiling, courteous, nice looking person at a Kovil?
    A: Sakkiliya.

    Q: What’s the difference between a Brahmin and a stud bull?
    A: The difference between 50% and 100%.

    Q: What’s the difference between an eunuch and a Tamil?
    A: The difference between 75% and 50%.

    Q: Why did God create Brahmins?
    A: So that dogs could have some pride.

    Q: What’ the difference between a Brahmin and a pig?
    A: The Pig does have the Thala Thel smell.

    Q: What’s the difference between a Brahmin and a trampoline?
    A: You take off your shoes before you jump on a trampoline.

    Q: What’s the difference between a Brahmin and God?
    A: God doesn’t think he’s a Brahmin.

    Q: How are an apple and a Brahmin alike?
    A: They both look good hanging from a tree.

    Q: How can a Brahmin ensure that his pregnant wife is carrying a Brahmin?
    A: By imposing an exclusion zone of 10 km radius for Thrumbars and Sakkiyas.

    Q: How does a Brahmin sleep?
    A: First he lies on one side, then he lies on the other.
    .
    Q: How many Brahmin jokes are there?
    A: Only three. The rest are true stories.

    Q: What are Brahmins good for?
    A: They are good at making pigs look good.

    Q: What do dinosaurs and good Brahmins have in common?
    A: They’re both extinct.

    Q: What do you have when KKKKK, Rajash, Real Sarama, backlash et al. are all buried up to their chins in cement?
    A: Not enough cement.

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      Edwin Rordigo apparently the best candidate who knows MORE than anyone else about human extrements and engineering; may more likely be most wanted person to help Meethotamulla disaster – if the man at all can control over his tongue. From what he has been adding to this and other forums, he should be suffering from inferior complex being born to a sinahal low class family. More he bring his kind of so racial comments, more narrations incl about his Guru – Prof. David, that was what I could not avoid. This particular Sakkiliya being born to such families should have gone through all the hurdles sofar not being able to see any fairnesses in this life. Else, I cant see any good reason him to attack anyone who would join the forum with different minds and thoughts. And I believe the reason why he has repeatedly been bringing arguments on Sakkiliya – a vernacular term had earlier been used to call those who handled the removal of toilet buckets in colombo city corners, it is just the guy cant know anything else than sakkiliya culture… This kind of so called sinhalayas are threat to us upcountry sinhalese. I am afraid, I have to have added this so that the CT readership should know all these.

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        Words, desperate and Sinhalaya do not go other, so you cannot belong to the great Sinhala race. Look buddy, I have already declared in this forum that I am a Sakkiliya and that I am proud of it. So it is not an insult.

        If you are desperate on insulting me, you can call me a Brahmin. I will bear it up for your sake.

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          Please join Prof. Kapila Gunawardhana in finding a better solution on man-made garbage disaster in Meethotamulla. You should be an expert to help them with. Why to stay away being caught by a prison room in Saudi ? if what Desperate Sinhalaya is telling the truth about your profile. Please help those poor men in Meethotamulla. Your is in demand to the place right at the moment.

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            Thank you Empress of Blandings. I really appreciate Sinhalese commentators like you Empress, Mr. Samason Gunawardhana and even CT who are trying to guide me along the noble 8 fold path, in which Samma Vaca happens to be the 6th element.

            But Dear Empress, please clarify my questions given within parenthesis and in bold font in your valuable post reproduced below:

            Please join Prof. Kapila Gunawardhana (Who is Prof. Kapila Gunawardhana?) in finding a better solution on man (Are you sure that the culprit is not Prof. Kumar David?) garbage disaster in Meethotamulla (You mean there is an accomplice?).

            You should be an expert (Poor Me? Edwin?) like to help them with. Why to stay away being caught by a prison room in Saudi? (True. But to help I have to first escape, no?) if what Desperate Sinhalaya (Oh My God!. There is a 2nd accomplice too). Please help those poor men in Meethotamulla. (OK. Iwill try. You say poor men? You mean the Professor David, Meethotamulla and the Desperate Sinhalaya. No?) Your is in demand to the place right at the moment.

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            Do you really think Edwin could help Meethotamulla? or Joking ?

            Please let the poor people be away from an another disaster. Edwin is more fit to MIDDLE EAST where not even the basic human rights are respected. Besides,he would rather end up a fly found on those garbage, if the man would have been introduced to Meethotamulla. His wording is so insulting one after the another. Edwin is absolutely a disgusting person. My elders added then – there are guys of Edwin nature – they are like urulaeewa – if the like creatures move – there they leave all the bad smell as nothing can help any more. This bugger made clear efforts to outreach masses by going after Prof. David. That is what I understood by all his abusive posts added to CT forums sofar. We had so peaceful discussions on this platform at the time good educated commentators posted their valuable contents.

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      “Sabbe Satta Bhavantu Sukhitatta”. May all beings be content and happy.

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        I have no doubt, you the type wear PIRITH NUL ANYwhere on your body. That is a great match for the kind of hypocrites. No matter what kind of wording your cesspit drops, you behave like a pig from the day one to CT. That is obviously in your genetics. If some tamils and muslims are racial, why should we the sinhalaya spread the same view further ? This IH apparently has a big problem. Azwer too has it. They cant see it to outreach their people either.
        You are simply a curse to us sinhalaya if you would remain licking the balls of IH or the like backstabbers. We today, sinhalese work diehard to bring all communities together. Please come to sense, we the majority folks are to be blamed not the others for lanken problems. Now with Prez and PM to have accepted our mistakes, you guys to stay inthe extremist mode can only destroy everything.
        Even you own Meeharaka brain, please give it a try Edwin. We are all human beings.

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          Sure, my friend, I am trying to give it a try. And you know what? I find it so much more pleasant and peaceful now. Just ignore the venom and accept the nuggets of wisdom of learned elders like you.

          Thank you.

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            Thank you all.
            For your and others – information- I am just an peaceful person respecting all folks- what matters for me is the person not the religions, caste, creed or anything else.
            By the way – I am a in my 40ties so a quadragenarian- but my elders taught me not to treat anyone the way some of the guys have been doing here.
            The writer – should be an octogenarian- even his comment posts donot reflect his diplomatic carrier days.
            Edwin Rodrigo – a sexagenarian – as I read all these weeks – many regular commentators kept away not being able to digest ER’s.

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              (Rating X: May contain Adult Content)

              Samson, you call me a sex maniac? I am outraged.

              Or, on second thoughts, I feel very good. Why not? It is indeed an honour and a free advertisement. Thanks.

              By the way, have you been talking to silvestra by any chance?

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                Exposed !

                So called guy who has put down anyone calling that they are insulting to QUEEN #S LANGUAGE

                FYI

                https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sexagenarian

                Sexagenarian means_

                Definition of sexagenarian
                : a person whose age is in the sixties

                This proves BLACK AND WHITE your English Knowledge

                CT readers, please be informed, this guy is a joker.

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                  (XXX Rated: Only suitable for Sex Maniacs)

                  Yes I am joker and you are a tetravalent piece of a 4 letter word starting with s and ending with t who fell lock stock and barrel for my joke. You fell for my joke and looked up dictionaries. You are nothing but the most stupid DDLTR ever to have appeared in this forum. OK, next to Mallaiyuran perhaps. But he is pentavalent.

                  Now, try to work this out: Edwin is the eldest of male sextuplets born on sexagesimal Sunday and his age is 1. How many twin brothers has he got of the same age?

                  Yeah, I almost forgot the main puzzle, what is my birthday?

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                    Absolute nonsence – you are a born idiot who does not know even what sexagenarian means. But have a big mouth the size of a bedpan to drop loads to put down the messenger. Good luck and peace for all.

                    I really dont like to join you here, that is not my niveau.

                    Good luck to all decent commentators, thanks to Edwin R I have lost my affinity to CT posts.

                    All the best for IH too. BB

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                I am not a weekly visiter to this platform. So I cant know Silvestra.

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              Samson, don’t pat yourself too much on your back congratulating yourself that you have subdued me, OK? The credit should go to someone else. You will find out later who.

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          Well done Samson G. You have succeeded in taming a raving looney.
          Going by past performance of the dreg, you never know!!! But eventually, public opinion will ensure all these manimals fall in line with civilised behaviour.

          Kettikaran

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          Samson G – you write “This IH apparently has a big problem”. You are quite right. The problem is that I have been under attack week after week, month after month, and year after year. The attacks were meant to stop me being published. They have failed and I could have ignored them, except that they show a terrible Islamophobic hatred.I and others have felt that I should analyze that hatred in the interest of promoting ethnic harmony.
          Your remark about “licking the balls of IH or the like backstabbers” is out of place. – IH

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            Lies once more from the congenital liar. The “attacks” he complains were responses from readers to his crass anti-Tamil crusade. Tamils are not interested in who publishes his writings and who not (He cannot deny he was stopped from writing to a Tamil Muslim journal perhaps because he was lunatically anti-Tamil. These “attacks” will continue so long as he carries on his pet hatred.

            Warped way of “promoting ethnic harmony” by a discredited ex-diplomat who finally falls back on “F. Off” and “Shit” in his much boasted verbal repertoire. What characters the country the nation is fated to have paid for from her meagre resources – as our diplo-mutts!!!

            Backlash

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              Facts are facts, Backie boy, I have never initiated any attacks against Tamils. I have only responded to their attacks. 2/ What is this new nonsense about a Muslim journal stopping publishing me? Were they paid by you to stop publishing me? Who provided the money? Was it Hasbara? 3/ I have told you before Backie. Diplomatic finesse is not for the toilet bowl. 4/ As for my diplomatic performance, what do you know about it? Nothing. Mrs B knew. Ask Dr Brian Seneviratne what she had to say about it?
              Why don’t you try to be a nice bow-wow instead of a mad-dog bow-wow.The IH juggernaut moves on – IH

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              Backlash

              Please bear with him. Having reached a certain age one’s faculties tend to break down, which of course contribute/accelerate the process of losing one’s marbles.

              He has become a classic grumpy old man. I am not sure how his family copes with him.

              We should count ourselves lucky because we don’t live with him.

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                Native Veddah,

                I agree. Even to a congenital liar there is a limit to the lies.
                Hussain was removed from the panel of writers to a magazine,
                (Seilan Muslim??) Allegedly because his writings were based more on anti-Tamil prejudice than history or facts. Even Muslim commentators in the CT confirmed that. Hussain replied he on his own stopped writing to the journal. He now recklessly denies this. But the fool contradicts himself by first denying and then asking me “Were they paid by you to stop publishing me? Who provided the money?”

                Is this genetically cultural or only natural to the individual? Similarly he has lied and eventually exposed in these pages on other issues I have earlier pointed out.

                And, he pontificates “facts are facts” in style Goebells!!!

                Backlash

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                  You are hysterical Backie boy. I am happy. You know why? Because I have made you hysterical.The IH juggernaut keeps moving and there isn’t a dam thing you can do about it. – IH

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                    “Good time” old codger or time-wasting congenital racist??? Readers know him now all too well.

                    Backlash

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    What the island’s Southern Muslim elite are doing to the island’s Tamil Muslim masses who make up 98% of the island’s Muslim population is actually a form of genocide. This small number of southern Muslim elite numbering around 40000 are the ones who have some Arab blood. The rest of the island’s Muslim population is more or less 100% Tamil but these Muslim elite have for their own selfish political and economic power have brain washed these 100% Tamil, Muslim to think that they are also of Arab descent and hate and disown their own Dravidian Indian/Tamil Hindu origin and heritage. Now even the Tamil language. They constantly brainwash them and give them no chance to acknowledge or respect their own rich Tamil Islamic heritage, like the Tamil Muslims in India do.
    Not allowing a people to acknowledge respect and know really where they came from their culture origin and to hate is genocide and this was practised in many parts of the world to forcibly make people discard their own culture and assimilate into another culture. This is what this slightly Arab Southern Sri Lankan Muslim elite are doing to purely Tamil Muslim masses. They need these Tamil Muslim masses for their political power and wealth, as without them they will be nothing. Just a small powerless minority or 40000 like the Malays or Borah. Therefore they are emphasising on the importance of religion and Arab culture over their primary Tamil ethnicity and Tamil Islamic culture.

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    contd

    It is easy for them as unlike the part European Burghers who spoke English, looked largely like their European male ancestors and followed European customs and dress that distinguished them and separated them from the Sinhalese and Tamil Christians. These slightly Arab southern Muslim elite also speak Tamil and dress practice and in many instances look like the Tamil Muslim masses. Therefore no difference and easy to manipulate

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    Hi all:

    I got the below LTTE jokes from a site, just for a laugh, have fun:

    How was the LTTE party? It was a blast!

    What do LTTE students do when they fail? They become suicide bombers

    What’s LTTE’s favourite chai? LT tea

    What do you call an LTTE babe? A bomb.

    What’s the LTTE’s fave drink? Gren-ade!

    What is the LTTE ‘s fave movie? Refugee!

    What’s the LTTE’s favourite ISP? Cal-tiger

    What do LTTE gravestones usually say? Rest in pieces

    What is an LTTE member least likely to die of? Old age

    How did the sucide bomber scare his wife? By threatening to hug her!

    What is every LTTE operation nicknamed? Project tiger

    How do you confuse an LTTE? No need to he already is!

    Which soap is banned in Jaffna? Chandrika

    What do you call abnormal LTTEs? Humans

    What do the LTTE call a good looking car? A car bomb!

    What do you call a benevolent LTTE? Traitor!

    What Net account does the LTTE have? A shell account

    What is the LTTE fave book? Shall we kill the president?

    What is a kind female LTTE bomber called? Mercy-Nari

    What is the LTTE’s fave rock number? I of the tiger

    How do you distinguish a tiger from an LTTE? The tiger can’t speak Tamil

    What is LTTE’s favourite pet? Pandikutty (from me)

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      You will have even better fun at an ISIS site and this will suit you. The ISIS Arabs are desperately looking for low caste Jehadi South Asian convert wankers like you, as they need more canon fodder.

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        What is LTTE’s favourite pet? Pandi Kutti

        How did Pandi Kutti survive at the Nandikadal? Pandi Kutti camouflaged itself with ‘maatu kutti’ skin.

        Pandi Kutti in English is a piglet
        Maatu kutti in English is a calf

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      Yes it is indeed great. Enjoyed reading it. Thanks.

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      Isharath: You do have a sense of humour which even Edwin understands.

      Perhaps you may add

      What are White-vans called? Fondly called Isha-Ratham.

      How do you distinguish a lion from an isharath? The lion speaks only Lionese but understands Isharathese.

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    Mr Isharath,

    Wow! What an amazing piece!!! MalUrine,Jarash,Kuttikaran,Kundikaran ,PandiPeee etc are going to be shell shocked on reading this one.

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    Izeth

    At the 1956 hustings, “Sinhala” Marikkar thundered “Sakkili Tamils” – never about the Tamil caste system.

    Were you around in 1958? You look old enough. Was Tamil caste system an issue then? How about 1977 and 1983?

    The whole world wants Lanka to extricate herself from the imbroglio. Some section do not want this to happen. You are exploiting that group in your writings. You have latched on to this “Vellhalah” and an “Indian” factor. In 2007, the while van was in full swing. Were the disappeared exclusively “Vellahlah”?

    In Times of India (10 April), Indian Vice-President Hamid Ansari’s wife Salma Ansari has said that uttering ‘talaq’ thrice+ does not amount to divorce and asked Muslim women to read the Quran thoroughly instead of relying on clerics. What is your view on this Izeth?

    UN has stated for quite a while that Myanmar Rohingyas are the most persecuted people right now. UN has changed “persecution” to “genocide”. Rohingyas are Muslims ostensibly of Arab origin. What is your view on this?

    HLD Mahindapala is your friend and your new find is Edwin Rodrigo. Are they good company Izeth?

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    The Scientific Procedure

    In this series of articles, Mr. Izeth Hussain theorizes that casteism is at the root of the Sri Lankan ethnic conflict. The Brahmin Tamils take this as an attack on them and instead of using logic, they use insults and profanities to oppose the theorist.

    However, the procedure used by IH is generally known as the scientific methodology when studying new phenomena

    1) Making an observation.

    2) Understanding that the observation is connected to other observations and there is a common theory connecting them.

    3) Making a Guess at the Theory.

    4) Formulate the Theory in detail.

    5) Full enlightenment with the formation of a Law.

    Taking another example, Newton saw an apple falling from a tree, and following the above methodology, he ended up with the Theory of Gravitation, which still has to become a Law. Many people have seen apples falling from trees. But they did not end up with theories. Just like monkeys, who see fruits falling from trees daily, they did not think any further.

    Understanding the 4 Noble Truths:

    In the Damsak Pavatum Sutta (the First discourse of Buddha), he explains to his 5 fellow ascetics how he discovered, by himself, the 4 Noble Truths. Remarkably, the Sutta describes a procedure similar to the above 5 step procedure that modern science uses.

    1) Chakku: Meaning, eye or observation (Animals do not go beyond this step)

    2) Gnana: Cognition that leads to further thought

    3) Panna: Making a guess at a possible Theory.

    4) Vijja: Formulation of the Theory.

    5) Aloko: Full enlightenment similar to the discovery of a Law.

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      “casteism is at the root of the Sri Lankan ethnic conflict” What a fresh and outstandingly brilliant thought. How come no one else thought about this although hundreds of highly qualified scholars globally have battled the subject for decades? Both of you might even qualify for the Nobel Prize. Time then for both new-found wonky friends to do a “Dance of Shaithan”

      Kettikaran

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    The Next Step

    Mr. Izeth Hussain, Buddha when he used the 5 step procedure to understand Dukkha (the problem of existence), was in the same league as the 20th Century existentialist philosophers such as Jean Paul Sartre, Kierkegaard, Dostoyevsky, Sartre, Nietzsche and Marcel. They also found existence a big problem, an abyss, that the overwhelming majority of putujjana refuse to take a look at.

    Buddha not only identified the problem (The 1st noble truth), followed by the cause for it (The 2nd noble truth), but went ahead to find out that there is a solution for the problem (The 3rd noble truth). Not stopping even there, and leaving it as just as a theory, he put the solution in to actual practice (4th noble truth) and escaped from the problem forever.

    We take Buddha as our great teacher in our lives.

    IH, we are grateful for you identifying the problem (The ethnic problem) and one of the main causes for it (Tamil Casteism). Please let us not stop there. let us not repeat the mistake of just talking about it and not doing anything about it as those philosophers did. Let us go forward together to solve the problem.

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