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Sri Lanka’s Online Safety Bill: A Regressive Overreach Stifling Investment & Freedom Of Speech

In a fiery speech delivered in Parliament today, MP Harsha de Silva, Chair of the Committee on Public Finance, passionately criticized the Sri Lankan government’s latest move—the introduction of the online safety bill. MP Harsha minced no words, calling it an “archaic and draconian piece of legislation” that violates fundamental principles and represents a significant overreach by the government. His critique underscores the potential damage this bill could inflict on both investment prospects and freedom of expression in Sri Lanka.

At the heart of MP Harsha’s criticism lies in the bill’s creation of a commission appointed by the President, which would be tasked with determining the veracity of online content. He rightfully questions the credibility of such a commission when the government itself has been accused of misleading the public, including misrepresenting its financial reserves to the tune of billions when they were merely in the millions. How can a government notorious for disseminating misinformation claim the moral high ground in discerning truth from falsehood?

MP Harsha de Silva’s critique is grounded in the potential ramifications of this bill. He points out that global tech giants such as Google, TikTok, Meta (formerly Facebook), and others are unlikely to comply with laws that impose restrictions on their operations and force them to police content based on arbitrary judgments. This begs the question: can a financially troubled country with an authoritarian regime realistically dictate terms to some of the world’s largest tech companies?

The online safety bill, according to MP Harsha, “imposes unfair obligations on platforms to police content over and above what is necessary” and lacks foresight in considering future technological advancements, such as AI and its role in verifying authenticity. He raises a valid concern that these restrictive laws could drive these major tech players away from Sri Lanka, thereby contradicting the government’s apparent desire to attract foreign investment.

As MP Harsha articulates, “On one hand, you want them to come and invest, and on the other, you’re bringing legislation to curb their operations. This is a major contradiction.” It is a contradiction that could have far-reaching implications for Sri Lanka’s economic growth and technological progress.

MP Harsha’s feedback on the speech highlights the fundamental importance of the right to express views freely—a cornerstone of any democratic society. The government committee’s power to determine the veracity of content and force platforms to remove it is an affront to this fundamental freedom. It is essential to recognize that a government-appointed committee cannot effectively discern truth from falsehood in an era where information flows across borders at the speed of light.

Furthermore, MP Harsha’s astute observation about the regressive nature of the bill rings true. In an age where technology continues to advance rapidly, the future of communication and content moderation will heavily rely on artificial intelligence and sophisticated algorithms. Imposing archaic legislation that doesn’t account for these advancements is not only backward-looking but also hinders Sri Lanka’s potential to adapt to the evolving digital landscape.

It’s worth noting that tech companies already have their own community guidelines in place and are vigilant in ensuring their platforms are free from hate speech, harassment, and other forms of harmful content. Therefore, the government’s heavy-handed intervention seems unnecessary and counterproductive.

In conclusion, MP Harsha de Silva’s scathing critique of the online safety bill highlights the significant concerns surrounding this proposed legislation. It not only threatens to deter foreign investment but also jeopardizes freedom of expression and the country’s ability to embrace future technological advancements. Sri Lanka must carefully reconsider the consequences of such an overreaching law and seek a balanced approach that respects both the rights of its citizens and the needs of its digital economy. In an increasingly interconnected world, it is vital to navigate these challenges with wisdom and foresight, rather than resorting to draconian measures that stifle progress and liberty.

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    The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree ……. The World Democratic-Traditions Forum president Right Honorable His highest Excellency Ranil Wickramasinghe in action ……. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1krh1qiK9I

    Native is laughing and crying at the same time ……..

    Nelson Mandela —-> A good leader should posses humility and principles. ………. Native has humility; OC has principles ……… if they come together Democracy in the nation is assured.

    Where else …….. anywhere in the world …….. can one find …….. better entertainment, daily?

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      nimal fernando

      “Nelson Mandela —-> A good leader should posses humility and principles. ……….”

      Are you joking, you are not comparing Harsha the Sinhala/Buddhist with Madiba.
      Don’t take Harsha seriously, he is an opportunist and an educated stupid politician

      This is what he said in the parliament of crooks in November 2014 just before the elections of 2015:

      Excerpts

      “UNP MP Dr. Harsha De Silva told Parliament today that his party is fully committed to protect the security forces who freed the country from terrorism and the political leaders”
      ..
      “I am telling to the world. We (UNP and myself), will not allow anybody to take President Rajapaksa or any other leader to International court about War Crimes, We will not allow the President whether he won or lose to be tried before war crime tribunals,” Dr. de Silva stressed

      “I am a proud Southerner and a Sinhala Buddhist. I have no desire whatsoever to align with the Tigers and betray my country,” the MP stressed responding to the accusation against him from the government Minister.
      http://www.colombopage.com/archive_14B/Nov24_1416845441CH.php

      Is he a “southern redneck.”

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        “Nelson Mandela —-> A good leader should posses humility and principles. “

        Native,

        Please don’t dodge the issue ……. by dragging in Harsha: he is not a leader. The clip is about Ranil.

        Ranil is the current leader of the nation. What do you have to say about his humility and principles: if he has any?

        If you can’t be honest about Ranil, you are no better than Harsha. Unfortunately, that’s the fault with most Lankans. And why the country is in such a mess.

        People change their “principles” according to the leaders they support! The same people who were hell bent on criticizing the Rajapakses for suppressing free-speech and human-rights are now supporting Ranil to the hilt to suppress free-speech and human-rights.

        Now, I’m not naming names! :))))

        Ranil is not trying to suppress free-speech and human-rights for the good of the country but for the benefit of him: to cling on to power illegally indefinitely: a crude human trait common around the globe with power-hungry despots.

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          cont

          That’s why I said very early in the forum, I know what most Lankans are going to think before even they begin to think. It’s so predictable: how their emotions (likes and dislikes) take over. Their emotions don’t give their intellect a chance to come to the fore. ……… Look, what I said about Easter Bombings a day after the incident.

          That’s why I say, no Lankan will save Lanka: I know them only too well! …… If we are redeemed, it’ll be by fortunate accident/coincident.

          But it’s fascinating for me to observe how intelligent and knowledgeable Lankans deceive themselves ……… what lengths they go to ……

          Hell or high water …….. all Lankans are the same: Lankans.

          Lasantha Petthiyagoda is different: a breath of fresh air …… his mind can observe without being a slave of any man, political-personality, ideology, religion, clan, a pet-hate/peeve, ……….. I recognized that and acknowledge very early on …….


          But all are my brothers and sisters: I love them all …….. the sisters, a little more ……….

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          nimal fernando

          “Ranil is the current leader of the nation. What do you have to say about his humility and principles: if he has any?”

          Where do I start?

          Ranil was and is being surrounded by people like Harsha.
          The problem didn’t start with Ranil, nor with JR. If you want to talk about humility and principles you will have to go back to the public racist Anagarika Homeless Dharmapala and his followers. Then of course D S Senanayake (who opposed free education to all and then disenfranchise the hard working upcountry Tamils).

          Then of course the Banda’s ‘Pancha Maha Balavegaya’ unleashing the mad dogs.
          Socialism and all those crap, followed by self sufficiency drive of SJ’s old flame or crush, …. corrupt practices which has become part of the culture.

          And the war on its own people started by SJ’s crush in 1971 still going on in one form or another. Many new rich profited from wars, continue to profit. Ranil only a small fish in the shark infiltrated ocean. You do seem to ignore the racists, mafiosos, mass killers, ……………… the profiteers from war, …


          In between the country had produced many home grown fascists or psychopaths.
          Would you like to comment on them?

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            Native,

            The lengths you have gone to ……. defend one man’s lack of principles! :))

            You are better than this, Native!

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        NV
        “I am telling to the world. We (UNP and myself), will not allow anybody to take President Rajapaksa or any other leader to International court about War Crimes, We will not allow the President whether he won or lose to be tried before war crime tribunals,”
        I thought Dr Harsha was above the general riffraff in Parliament but the above quote puts him firmly back with yobs. How can an educated man confuse justice & nationalism? The Military of a democratic country has to abide by the rules of war which differentiates them from terrorists. In the heat of the battle, atrocities are committed but the govt. cannot condone kangaroo courts & vigilantism. In particular, the President of the country should be above board, & by blindly defending him in public, Dr H was probably playing to the gallery but by doing so, he has shot himself in the foot. In this context, DR H would be obviously safeguarding GR, therefore, can we expect an impartial investigation to the C4 accusations of bombings & unsolved murders, or for that matter, any atrocities by politicians?

        What a hypocrite, now championing for freedom of speech. C4 documentary has put our political system in a dangerous light but discrediting C4 will not convince the world. The only foreign investors would be dodgy businessmen, the damage was done without On-line safety Bill.

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          Raj-UK

          “Dr H was probably playing to the gallery but by doing so, ………………………..”

          It would be useful if you refer your thoughts to the much repeated maxim, ” Play The Ball And Not The Man” however we have fine tuned our conducts to reverse the message “Play The Man And Not The Ball”. Else shoot the messenger.

          Let us remind Harsha the lines of MARTIN NIEMÖLLER’s: “FIRST THEY CAME FOR…..”

          First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

          Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

          Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

          Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

          —Martin Niemöller

          Please ignore SJ.

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      Nimal,
      “Where else …….. anywhere in the world …….. can one find …….. better entertainment, daily?”
      A “Wheeler-Dealer” better even Machiavelli – spent 50 years – Better beyond any Competition!!??

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      “Did you really think that we want those laws to be observed? We want them broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against—then you’ll know that this is not the age for beautiful gestures. We’re after power and we mean it. You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you’d better get wise to it. There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted—and you create a nation of law-breakers—and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with”.

      From the book “Atlas Shrugged” by Ayn Rand (1957)

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    Lesson —–> Never let ye mind be the slave of no man. ( Buddha’s alter ego, in a candid unguarded moment)

    Ye can call me a prophet or Sonic Sonic; I don’t mind …….I’ve no humility, sorta have some principles ……. and have no access to “committees” ……… Written on the 24/04/2019, a day after the Easter Bombings ……… https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/a-post-script-easter-sunday-bombing-more-questions-to-minister-ministry-of-defence-law-order/comment-page-1/#comments


    nimal fernando / April 24, 2019

    This is pure speculation on my part ………. but after observing the aftermath and the behaviour of certain people …….. this is what I believe happened.

    The selection of targets defies logic.

    In SL there is no prior history of Muslims attacking Christian or vice versa ………. no history of animosity between the two communities ……….. the animosity was between the Buddhists and the Muslims …….. so why did this “Muslim” group attack the Christians? And the economic targets; the hotels?

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      cont

      Sirisena’s inaction – once the warning was received – and keeping the rest of the cabinet in the dark and the gloating of Mahinda and Namal after the event makes me deeply suspicious this is a paid and planned plot by the last Octobers’ coup plotters to capture power at the next presidential election. I suspect this plot was hatched by Basil and executed by Gota with some rouge elements in the forces.

      Just like Prabakaran (who had suicide-bombers aplenty) was paid to prevent Tamils from voting ………… Money changed hands between the Rajapakses (with the knowledge of Sirisena; listen to the defence secretary) and the “Leader” of this insignificant “Muslim” outfit to carry out the dastardly act.

      The attackers have had unhindered accesses to training, weapons, funds and freedom to execute their plot. This could not have happened without the knowledge and tacit approval of powers that be.

      Just as the putsch showed ……… do you believe that madly power-hungry Sirisena, Mahinda and the Rajapkses will let the UNP win the presidency without a fight? These are people who bribed even the mortal-enemy Prabakaran to win the presidency

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        cont

        They were certain they will not win the presidency because of the minority vote – 95% against them. Basil was busy hatching a plot to field Vasu’s relative Vignasewarm to divide the Tamil vote. They are always hatching plots a plenty while the imbecile Ranil is in deep slumber; he had no clue the October coup was coming. Ranil is slow-busy doing the “Westminster act” with a mouth full of pittu.

        This is nothing but another political power grab by the coup-plotters ……… these people will stop at nothing.

        They don’t give a fig about the slaughtered people …….. would sell their souls to the devil for power.

        Just look at how happy the Rajapakses are …….. how they have awakened at the smell of blood!

        Don’t be too surprised if this is a plot hatched by your own beloved politicians!

        Well, when one was thinking how can things get any worse in Lanka ………. this happens ……..

        Land like no other.

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          I am not taking sides, but consider how these things work in Singapore, a country much admired by Sri Lankans.
          Singapore has what it calls ” libel laws” , according to which anyone making statements deemed false by the government, can be fined to the point of bankruptcy.
          Then there is India, where “anti-national” statements on social media are strictly controlled. Hysterical YouTube channels such as we have here are not found in either country.
          Thailand still has lese majeste laws, under which criticism of the King is absolutely forbidden, even though everyone knows the guy is a playboy or worse.
          Even without these laws, people do get locked up here on the say-so of some monk or other. So, what’s new?

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            old codger

            Only today I found out there was another serious racist in the past. R G Senanayake. How bad he was for Ceylon?

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              Native,
              You should look up one of his mates, KMP Rajaratna too. You ought to check out that naive Christian (!) Lawyer who founded the Sihala Urumaya too.

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                old codger

                “You should look up one of his mates, KMP Rajaratna too”

                Thanks I have heard about KMP Rajaratna but not R G Senanayake.
                R G S was educated in the UK those days and would have himself suffered from racism. That man did not learn anything. Even SJ’s favourite politician Banda too was educated in the UK.

                Do you think Suresh sent one of his assassin to assassinate Hardeep Singh Nijjar so that it would create domestic and international difficulties for Justin Trudeau who recognised Tamil Genocide week and joins the Tamils in street parties?

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                oc
                RGS was Dudley S’s cousin and his communalism was unlike the rabble rousing of KMPR.
                There were many of his kind in the UNP, but many choose not to talk about such things.
                *
                KMPR was a populist rabble rouser who whipped up communal feelings. (He was held in house arrest after the July 1958 riots.)
                He and his wife Kusuma founded the first JVP of the country in 1957. (Jathika not Janatha).
                *
                RGS contested JRJ in Kelaniya in 1956, and rendered a humiliating defeat (RGS 71.55%; JRJ 27.42%. That injury was self inflicted by JRJ.)
                This may interest you:
                “He joined the government of S.W.R.D. Bandaranaike, having been appointed again Minister of Trade and Commerce. He along with Philip Gunawardena, Minister for Agriculture and Food; was instrumental in convincing Bandaranaike to award the lucrative shipping contract to import rice from Burma and Thailand to the government own Ceylon Shipping Corporation and lucrative sugar manufacturing contract to the government Sugar Cooperation, preventing these going to companies created by Mapitigama Buddharakkitha Thero and his associate H. P. Jayawardene. This was found to be the reason for the assassination of Bandaranaike in 1959.”
                [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Gotabhaya_Senanayake#Political_career]

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              Ramona,
              The libel laws in Singapore and the Thai laws were there long before the social media.

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                OC,

                These countries are clever enough not to stifle descent when people are starving. They look and learn and implement accordingly. Hence their successes. Then and only then do they regulate the social media from mischief makers.

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                  ramona grandma therese fernando

                  “Then and only then do they regulate the social media from mischief makers.”

                  Where was Gamini Lokuge between 31 May 1981 – 2 Jun 1981?

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                    Donno….who’s that?

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                      Native,
                      “Where was Gamini Lokuge ?”
                      Please don’t confuse Ramona any more than strictly necessary.

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                  Why should anyone bother to stifle anybody’s descending anywhere?
                  Unless it is a God’s messenger whom one dislikes.

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              Only today!!
              Until then he was one of them decent Senanayakes?

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            OC,

            That’s because they already had their money when the laws came in place. Before that there were riots aplenty, which guided S’pore gov. on how to proceed on the correct path.

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            “Singapore has what it calls ” libel laws” , according to which anyone making statements deemed false by the government, can be fined to the point of bankruptcy.”

            OC, What you miss here ……. is …….. in Singapore there is very little corruption: near 0. The press or social-media has very little to expose on that score: the Singapore government always does/did an excellent job of fighting corruption. So the Singapore has a right to make sure that what appears in the public social/print media is accurate. I don’t think Singapore has a history of falsely accusing people and jailing them for what they publish.

            Can Lanka’s corruption-fighting be even remotely compared to Singapore’s?

            Furthermore …….. Singapore recently dismissed 2 ministers (I think) for carrying on an illicit affair ……. even after warned by their Prime Minister months prior.

            OC, ……. Any chance of Ranil sacking you as his chief advisor ……… for all your countless secret trysts?

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              cont

              Ranil has great knack for picking the right culprit to jail ……….. If Native doesn’t watch out ……… it’ll be he, an incurable raving misogynist, who gets jailed for someone else’s crimes!

              That’ll be the happiest day in Gunduvindu’s life!!!

              But like Ranjan ……. expats will host him when he is freed …….. :)))

              Happenings in Lanka ……. could be filmed and edited into the greatest comedy ever made! ……. Oh Boy!

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                nimal fernando

                Do you like our friend soma?

                Would you share a pipe with him if opportunity arose?
                I love to share a pipe with him.
                If necessary, I don’t mind sharing my food with him (in case for some unknown reason Stalin stops sending his free rice).

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              Nimal,
              “for all your countless secret trysts?”
              Now you’re trying to sully Deepthi’s spotless reputation.
              Be that as it may, you might find this piece interesting:
              https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2009/11/singapore-defamation-case-threatens-press-freedom-20091119/

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              nimal fernando

              “Can Lanka’s corruption-fighting be even remotely compared to Singapore’s?”

              Are you being serious nimal?
              My Elders tell me even the Bribery Commissioner was caught taking bribe in the 1970s.

              Recently Sumanthiran pointed out in the parliament a judge was fixed (maybe persuaded, nobbled, threatened, …..) to free a suspect accused of murder charges from detention who is now sitting along with other ruling party crooks.

              Do you see any redeeming qualities among politicians, people, ….. voters, … yet Gota’s b***s carriers are actively campaigning the return of the Single Handed Sinhala/Buddhist?

              Those whom I speak (irrespective of their brands such as religion, region, race(?), gender, ……. ), most agree they are longing for a clean parliament, clean politician, to lead the country.

              Since you refused to name such clean alternative do you have any good people whom we can persuade to relocate to this island and rule us? Look at large businesses (including football and cricket clubs) establishments hire experts, popular managers, business leaders, and leading players from all over the world.

              Why not imported politicians for Sri Lanka?
              Forget transfer fees, salaries, and perks, guess still cheaper than the effect of cronyism, nepotism, …. corruption.

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      Nimal, thanks for taking us back to the earlier post. You were absolutely right then and right now.

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        chiv

        “Nimal, thanks for taking us back to the earlier post. You were absolutely right then and right now.”

        nimal is right, alright however beware nimal is the VP’s man in CT, unfortunately he missed out LTTE.

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    Controlling the internet requires a sophistication that Ranil Rajapakse and his acolytes do not have. China tries it but its people have means of circumventing it. Singapore more wise, simply does not do it, opting instead to publish its own version whenever what it disagrees with it is published so that the public can judge. Ranil Rajapakse swirls in the pool of untruths from the denial of bribery, the killing of Tamils, the missing persons and the murders of journalists. Who is going to trust this government and its “truths”. At every human rights review, a poor diplomat prejudices her professional ethics and becomes a laughing stock of the world trying to defend her government. In the past this was done by Ministers. But, their credibility is gone for ever so a poor diplomat is forced to make statements she hardly believes in. Why does she not do so instead of doing something so unBuddhistic.

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      Cicero

      “Controlling the internet requires a sophistication that Ranil Rajapakse and his acolytes do not have. “

      However the former Gota’s hand picked Sri Lankan Ambassador to Germany Manori Unambuwe thought otherwise.
      Please read the following excerpt:

      “During the tele-conference Unambuwe floated the idea that an anti terrorism task force on cyber security should established to monitor social media platforms of youth in Europe, especially Sri Lankan Tamils living in the area.
      “I am looking at how to build an idea of inclusive nationalism and promote the Sri Lankan identity, rather than Tamil, Muslim identity” the new envoy said. “We must develop different story lines that will have traction in Germany such as emphasis on sovereignty and territorial integrity. We must highlight that terrorism is very much alive with the LTTE, ISIS and others. The fight today is in cyberspace for example there was an Instagram campaign recently which ran the tag line – I am a Tamil and the genocide is a part of my identity. These things must be monitored closely and countered. You have to have a Counter terrorism Task Force on Cyberspace to monitor these campaigns in Europe and use Sri Lankan (Sinhala) youth as a front to counter these things,”
      Colombo Telegraph
      JULY 31, 2020

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        Continued

        Cicero

        Don’t you think our diplomats should think before they open their mouth.
        They should admonish their diplomats to open their mouth only to eat or drink.

        Saroja Sirisena, High Commissioner of Sri Lanka demanded The Guardian news paper to avoid using Eelam as another name for Sri Lanka.
        In fact The Guardian obliged, removed the quiz from its online edition.
        “Sri Lanka demands retraction of London Guardian Travel Quiz with reference to “Eelam”
        https://www.un.int/srilanka/news/sri-lanka-demands-retraction-london-guardian-travel-quiz-reference-%E2%80%9Ceelam%E2%80%9D

        Yet our friend soma wants to teach the world the history of Sri Lanaka.

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    he is shouting freedom of speech. Tamil MPs have no freedom of speech. He never stood up in parliament and shouted about that.

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      We know every crook’s heroism. He has in history the part of his share of protecting Evil. After signing the Resolution 30/1 of UNHRC, there was finger pointing among New King, Evil Emperor and Mangala about who was the culprit who signed the resolution. As Mangala was the junior, the honor of having the “sin of traitorism committed against the Great Land of Mahavamsa Buddhism, which was discovered by the Lion cup Vijeya” was conferred to Mangala. Mangala was promptly withdrawn form UNHRC meetings after that. Until another suitable Noble Sinhala Buddhist Intellectual Knight was selected to save The Wildlife Sanctuary of RavanaLE, Langkang at UNHRC, temporarily that job was vested with Harsha. Harsha immediately proved what a talented crook he was at the meeting of UNHRC Peer Review sitting. Tell me if it is something about plotting against Tamils, every Sinhala Buddhist Intellectual is a master mind; they surrender the Body, Soul and Property to that noble deed. But, here, not one requirement out of the 262, which Harsha lavishly signed at the meeting to fix was ever done.

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      Even though Harsha sacrificed everything he had, Evil just brushed off it and did not recognize Harsha’s achievement duping UNHRC. I don’t know why, but politically more insider commentators can/may explain why, but Evil hates Harsha & Attanayake many times more than Valaiththodam JR. Other than the Yuan faced, Chinese rep Sakala, Evil was never ready to allow any assistant near him, possibly because the fear of them may trip his Apple cart by their better ability to shout more than Puttu Kaddy mouthed Evil. That is why now Harsha is in opposition and barking too loud to get some attention.

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    Harsha is worrying about inverters, is it VW ,Telsla ,wal mart etc really who wants to invest here apart from China/Hindia
    .
    Give the Railway to Hindi they are doing very well, Elite Air lines to TATA, or put whole administration under Modi we don’t need forces either big brother is next to us and put all the forces under Buddha Sasana and start to build pansals Dansals meditation centres bring more elephants on the streets to promote pilgrims around the world
    .
    What AI we controlled covid with pot and panni, we survived for 2500 yrs the last 75 yrs was to blame gone for gas and electricity Indian beth
    .
    Mr Nice take us to moon by 2048.

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      Cugan,
      I am all for more Dansals. Daily if possible.

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        oc
        I warn you that you may be taken seriously.

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