Usha S Sri-Skanda-Rajah
So far the new Sri Lankan President Maithripala Sirisena has been paying only lip service to reconciliation with the Tamil people and nothing else. Not even in his proposals for constitutional reforms [1] has he made any inroads or mentioned any power sharing arrangement. What he has said however regarding the military deployment in the North and East – that it would remain as it is – is shocking and is hard to comprehend when he came to power riding on the back of the Tamil vote.
In the backdrop of this climate of uncertainty for Tamils with no offers in sight, nothing whatsoever in their pockets to crow about, nothing reciprocal coming from the new regime, for the goodwill [2] shown by Mr. Sampanthan and Mr. Sumanthiran of the TNA [3] who attended the independence day celebrations, breaking a long tradition of non-attendance. The Tamil people have waited and waited with no avail and still in the hope for scraps that may be thrown at us, we are forever destined to playing the waiting game.
Speculation is rife [4] at the moment post Nisha Biswal‘s visit to the island, that there could be a deferment of the March UNHRC resolution to September, with Sri Lanka trying its hardest to, “quash [5] or at least defer for a few months — a landmark United Nations inquiry into war crimes set to be released next month,” according to recent media reports. Mr. Sumanthiran himself has rushed to meet with the OISL team to discuss the report. [6]
The Transnational Government of Tamil Eelam (TGTE) has come out scathing against any postponement, and so have, many members of the ITAK [7] [8]and the TNA. [9] In a “key development” NPC Chief Minister Justice Wigneswaran has called for an, “international Investigation on Genocide,” the recording of which TamilNet released today Tuesday morning in its website [10]:
“In a key development, the Chief Minister of Northern Provincial Council (NPC), Justice CV Wigneswaran, on Tuesday called for real international investigations on genocide against Tamils committed by the successive governments since Ceylon’s independence from the British in 1948. Passing a resolution in the council that demanded international investigations on genocide, the Chief Minister has called for criminal prosecutions at the International Criminal Court (ICC) and urged the on-going OHCHR Investigation on Sri Lanka (OISL) to investigate the claim of genocide and recommend appropriate investigations and prosecutions by the ICC.”
The TGTE has called on the UNHRC to strictly adhere to the mandate given to the OISL and ensure its presented to Council on 25 March 2015, extracts of the statement to Colombo Telegraph of TGTE’s letter is given below:
“The Transnational Government of Tamil Eelam Ministry of International Affairs has today written to all members of the UNHRC to strictly adhere to the mandate given to the OISL, stating that it is important that the March 2014 resolution for an international independent investigation is not compromised but completed and report presented to Council on 25 March 2015 as planned, with recommendations for further action and referral to the ICC with an action plan for implementation.
“Only a UNHRC mandated comprehensive independent international investigation will be accepted by the victims, their dependents, by the Tamils worldwide, and to all other victims worldwide waiting with hope for justice and accountability, for the truth on how, why and by whom this massacre took place. TGTE request the international community to come forward and ensure OISL completes its mandate, for the victims and for justice and accountability, knowing the past history of deceit and deviation by the successive Sri Lankan regimes, with continued subjugation under the military, it is now the responsibility and obligation of the international community (and through this report), to take urgent appropriate action on the plight of the Tamils in Sri Lanka.”
“TGTE request the international community to come forward and ensure OISL completes its mandate, for the victims and for justice and accountability, knowing the past history of deceit and deviation by the successive Sri Lankan regimes, with continued subjugation under the military, it is now the responsibility and obligation of the international community (and through this report), to take urgent appropriate action on the plight of the Tamils in Sri Lanka.”
There is also a concern, that the US and India having effected a regime change will not push for more than the “minimalist” 13th amendment; that they are also behind the postponement of the report finding its way to the UNHRC sessions in March in order give President Sirisena time to come up with a credible domestic investigation, that Tamils think would end up a “farce”[11] . The Tamil Diaspora and the people of of the NorthEast are up in arms at this latest developments which puts in jeopardy the interests of the living and the dead victims of Mullivaikkal.
Whilst everyone keeps Tamil issues in the backburner (we really do not know if the TNA has been promised a deal which it’s not fully ready to reveal or if Mr. Sampanthan is having too much hope and expectation and could be let down at one point), we need to as Tamils also go ahead seek other avenues and make a case with Britain that it has a duty to look after our interests in the name of remedial justice for war crimes and for their abandonment of the Tamil people. It must not be denied that Prime Minister David Cameron kept to his word and pushed for an international investigation [12] for which the Tamil people are grateful.
My article today is about the broken covenant and Britain’s responsibility not to forsake its old British subjects :
- Was there a sacred covenant, agreed upon under the guardianship of Britain, between the Sinhala and Tamil communities at independence that was later broken?
- Was Section “29/2 safeguard” an entrenched provision or not? A Tamil patriot said it wasn’t, “29/2 is not fool proof,” he said.
- Did Tamils do enough politically to secure their rights and freedoms at the time when the Soulbury constitution along with Section 29/2 was abolished? Did they mount a strong enough challenge against an illegal action to establish a Sinhala Buddhist State? The Tamil patriot points to the futility of legal challenges, but I say…discussion later.
- Has Britain got any responsibility as a colonial power for putting things right? Can Britain absolve itself from its former colonial responsibility? If Britain has evolved itself to adapt to “power sharing” with the other nations that make the United Kingdom, why can’t Sri Lanka. Shouldn’t UK play a major role in persuading Sri Lanka to conduct that referendum?
These are reasonable questions that need answers. The 1st and the 2nd second question can be put to bed as you will see later, as far as the 3rd, the jury is still out on that one, but there could have been more done in protest; and as for the 4th, most definitely the question is a legitimate one and must be addressed.
“Queen Victoria brought together the Sinhala and Tamil Kingdoms under her rule as one colony, Ceylon. [13] In preparations for independence, the two communities were at odds with each other with respect to power sharing in an independent Ceylon. The Crown, after many years of debate, mediated between the communities, the Covenant that brought them together. That Covenant was Section 29 of the Soulbury Constitution. At the time of independence in 1948, equality, liberty, and justice were guaranteed to the Tamils in Section 29 of the Soulbury Constitution. Under this constitution, Tamils of Ceylon had recourse to the Privy Council when their rights under the covenant is violated. The Privy Council and the Crown were thus the guardians of the covenant between the Tamil and Sinhala communities.”
Extract from :The Broken Covenant [14] Author: Niranjan
This covenant, Niranjan writes as above stated, entered into by the “Sinhala community” and the “Tamil community” was broken with the advent of the new, illegal constitution of 1972, when Ceylon became The Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka within the Commonwealth, losing its dominion status, with no governor general (the queen’s representative), which saw the abolition of the Soulbury Constitution, and the all important clause, Section 29, removing outright the last vestige of protection provided to the Tamil people, “against the tyranny of the majority.”
Subsequently with the abolition of the right of appeal to the Privy Council, Tamils lost their recourse to appeal to the ultimate legal body, the one where they believed they could obtain a fair and independent ruling “when their rights were violated,” and thus lost the two guardians of the covenant – the Privy Council and the British Crown.
There are three issues (which we will discuss further below) that spring from these defining moments in the history of the Tamil people, that will always be a matter for great regret, debate and discussion – one that illustrates that we could have done more to secure our rights and freedoms at crucial events in our political history, that has lead us to think with hindsight what we could have been – a country separated at independence like Pakistan; that lead others to question the legitimacy of our right to self-determination and our status as a sovereign nation distinct with an identifiable territory, a fact that is evidenced from the writings of the following authors:
I quote Niranjan:
“The fact that two nations existed before Queen Victoria, in 1830, established her rule on the whole island of Ceylon is documented by the following authors; Fernao de Queyroz, (1692); Paviljeon, (1695); Donald Ferguson; Van Goens, (1675); Van Imhoff, (1740); Anthony Mooyart, (1766); Hugh Cleghorn, (1799); Robert Brownrigg, (1813); Emerson Tennent, (1859). They describe the extent and boundaries of the Tamil and the Sinhala Kingdoms by observation in the early years and later with maps.”
In an article: Tamil Perspective: The Dangerous and Genocidal Dayange Chinthanaya, [15] I do weigh in on the pathetic situation we are in where we are not being recognised as a distinct nation although the sea-farers dating back to centuries have said we had a distinct identity and land and constitute a nation.
I quote:
” A historical habitat, a homeland, a nation, a state, a nation-state, a country – we all know what these concepts mean, its intricacies and what it entails; a fundamental error in judgement at the critical and crucial time of independence from a colonial power has brought us to the paltry position of being forced to looking at these as mere concepts and of debating who we are, where we belong and what is our right as a Tamil nation.
Worse still we are made to suffer the indignity of having a bunch of no good racist bigots without a conscience, tell us who we are and who we are not. They have the gall, these no-gooders who rely on myths for their succour, who have systematically and intentionally made it their business and prime focus to dismantle and destroy the socio-cultural-linguistic and political fabric that binds us as a national and political entity, who are in occupation of our land, who’ve forced their authority on us, who terrorise us, to tell us what’s good for us!
This genocidal attitude pervades these bloodthirsty bigots notwithstanding the fact that the numerically larger Tamil speaking NorthEast comprising the Tamil Nation gave the Vaddukoddai Resolution which enshrines the clarion call for cessation of the Tamil Nation and, “the restoration of a Free Sovereign Secular Socialist State of Tamil Eelam,” an overwhelming mandate.”
The three issues: a) b) c)
a) If there are any nagging reservations in anyone’s mind that Section 29/2 of the Soulbury Constitution is “unalterable and entrenched” and that Section 29/4 makes 29/2 a provision that can be “amended or repealed” is without merit, considering the unambiguous and clear assertion in Section 29/3 that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that 29/2 is entrenched.
One of the stinging rebukes I received through an e-mail to part 1 of this article, by a person who I shall refer to here as “Tamil patriot”, set me thinking that I may have unknowingly and unwittingly rattled not just my Sinhala brethren but also some Tamils all because I quoted, Mr. Wakeley Paul who was critical about the lack of a robust response from the ITAK to the abolition of the Soulbury constitution. In his response the “Tamil Patriot” said the most damning thing:
” If Wakeley Paul was such a legal luminary, why did he not challenge the law in the courts himself? You rely heavily on him to claim persons like SJV Chelvanayagam and others had let down the Thamils.”
The insinuation stunned me – that I would ever contemplate even in my dreams that the darling of the Tamil Nation, Thanthai Selva [16] let the Tamils down? No never. That’s preposterous.
Truly it was not my intention to create such an impression – to say Thanthai Selva let down the Tamils. I am deeply sorry if it sounded that way.
But further to the insinuation, the implication was that the whole premise of my article was said to be flawed:
It’s important that I up the ante and respond.
That Section 29/3 entrenches Section 29/2 – is clear as crystal
This argument put forward by the “Tamil Patriot” was erroneous – he concluded that, “Section 29/2 was not a fool proof provision,” and was not entrenched; the assertion being that Section 29/2 can be amended or repealed under 29/4
But the “Tamil patriot” most certainly failed to see that Section29/3 existed to protect 29/2.
A look through Section 29/3 would be prudent at this point:
Section 29/3: Any law made in contravention of subsection (2) of this section shall, to the extent of such contravention, be void.
Niranajan assails that, “a close examination of subsection (3) and the first clause of subsection (4) demonstrate the extent to which the authors went to preserve minority rights. They also demonstrate the extreme guarantees the Tamil representatives required to enter the Tamil nation into this political and economic union. Section 29 was entrenched into the Soulbury Constitution for this reason.”
Prof G L Peiris’s interpretation
Niranjan goes further to quote Professor G L Peiris, the academic turned peace-maker (before he made a complete somersault and became a Rajapaksa stooge) and his interpretation of Sections 29/2 29/3 29/4, “in a series of articles he wrote on the constitutional process, in the Sunday Island of February 25 and continued on March 5, 1995, refers to Section 29(2) and (4).”
I quote:
“…because Section 29(2) represents basic conditions subject to which minorities are prepared to accept, in the first place, in the transfer of power to Colombo. In other words there is something impregnable or invulnerable about Section 29 subsection (2). It possessed a special attribute of quality. And the powers conferred on Parliament by Section 29 subsection (4) could not legitimately be invoked in respect of letters imposed upon Parliament by Section 29 subsection (2).”
I remain steadfast and stand by my position that Wakeley Paul’s profound reading of the law is spot.
b) If the failure, to mount a vigorous legal challenge to Sirimavo Bandaranayake government’s move to abolish the unalterable and entrenched provision in the Soulbury constitution, making the 1972 illegal constitution legal by default, as Mr. Wakeley Paul submitted was a, missed opportunity, there were other possible avenues that could have been considered like registering our protest with the British Government.
In my recent article [17] I quoted Mr. Wakeley Paul who argued that Section 29/2, a clause incorporated in the Soulbury Constitution for the protection of the Tamil people, “against the tyranny of the majority” was an, “unalterable entrenched” provision” which could not have been abolished even with a 2/3 majority in parliament and that the Illankai Tamil Arasu Katchchi -ITAK’s failure to mount a legal challenge, “was an omission that can never be forgiven: “The failure to challenge this blatant disregard of the law and the existing Constitution, resulted in the Constitution becoming recognized by default. The illegality got an illegal blessing as a result of inexcusable inaction by the representatives of the Tamils. The Federal Party can never be forgiven for this omission.”
Our Tamil Patriot ‘s contention was that Section 29/2 was a useless safeguard:
In retrospect section 29(2) was a useless safeguard for the Thamils as subsequent discriminatory assaults were made by successive governments. It did not help people of Indian origin when they were denied their citizenship and franchise.
The Tamil patriot takes two examples: The Koddakkan Pillai and the Kodeeswaran case :
In the Koddakkan Pillai case, according to Mr. X the Privy Council had ruled that the Citizenship Act was not ultra vires of Section 29/2 of the Soulbury Constitution and ruled that: “The migratory habits of the Indian Tamils [see para 123 and para 203, Soulbury Report – given below] are facts which in their Lordships’ opinion are directly relevant to the question of their suitability as citizens of Ceylon, and have nothing to with them as a community.” The appeal was dismissed.”
In the second example, Kodeeswaran a government employee challenged the Sinhala Only Act on the premise that “it infringed on Section 29/2” and took his case to the Privy Council (that was quashed earlier by the Supreme Court of Ceylon, the highest court in the land) which sent it back to the Supreme Court asking it to rule on the constitutional question. Before the Kodeeswaran’s case could be heard, in 1971 Mrs. Bandaranayaka had abolished it.
Having raised the Koddakkan Pillai case ( S J V Chelvanayagam had appeared for the plaintiff) , and the Kodeeswaran case the Tamil patriot was satisfied he had made his case, pointing out the futility of these failed legal challenges and quipped:
“Thus ended a saga of constitutional challenges…” The moral of the story by and large is you cannot win constitutional battles through courts. Laws can be made and unmade at the whims and fancies of a government.”
I say it again – I remain steadfast and stand by my position that Wakeley Paul’s profound reading of the law is spot on.
What the Tamil Patriot failed to mention was the case of Bribery Commission vs Ranasinghe. The Privy Council in that case had ruled that Article 29(2) cannot be amended even with a two-thirds majority. It was on the basis of this safeguard that the Tamils acquiesced in the granting of independence in 1948.
It was right to object to the Sinhalese abolishing the last vestige of protection any constitution offered us
Frustrated I sat down to reply our patriot: ” I don’t deny we are dealing with chauvinist pigs, with them no law is fool proof – they have no one to account – not even to their conscience …That’s still our problem, they do not come to the table with a sense of integrity, they did that in the peace process too and everywhere else. By all moral stands and legal standards and palpably they are wrong on this count. My point goes to the heart of the issue – that the Sinhalese have acted in a sinister and unconscionable manner, they have run afoul of moral and legal principles, there’s no better time to point that out when the country is celebrating its independence. It was right to object to the Sinhalese abolishing the last vestige of protection any constitution offered us, whether it was substantive or not is not the question. Had the FP mounted a strong legal challenge and used that to engage with Britain and seek their help, galvanize support and plead our case with Britain. At least we would have registered our protest with the colonial regime that gave us independence – many Tamils feel Britain has a moral responsibility to intervene. Whether the Privy Council was abolished or not – there was still a Governor General with whom we could have registered our protest and concerns, don’t you think – Ceylon hadn’t still become a Republic at that point. Mr. Wakeley Paul has outstanding credentials and I feel his reading of the law in this case is spot on. By not mounting a challenge early, we gave the new constitution legality by default and the schemers some credence, “ I wrote.
c) There does exist a strong feeling amongst some Tamils that Britain had a duty to intervene and still has.
There are many who feel that Britain failed to prevent the forcible annexation of the Tamil Homeland in violation of the Soulbury Constitution and was of the opinion that Britain had a duty to intervene in to settle the dispute over the long overdue and vexed Tamil National Question.
Most Tamils feel Britain did nothing at the time of great need when the Soulbury constitution was abolished and the island Sinhalese decided to sever constitutional ties with Britain leaving the Tamils vulnerable to Sinhala Buddhist hegemony.
There was also the huge disappointment during the time the war had intensified in early 2009 and innocent civilians were being massacred in Mullivaikkal, Britain didn’t respond to save its former subjects, did not call for R2P,did not resort to air strikes and did not protest when its Foreign Minister David Miliband who went there personally was not entertained or given a hearing.
Karen Parker and the imperfect de-colonisation process :
Karen Parker, a human rights lawyer explains, “the ethnic conflict between the Sinhala controlled government and the Tamil people must be understood in terms of an imperfect de-colonization process.” [18] I give here in fair detail her excellent analysis about what it means and when it occurs: “Imperfect de-colonization occurs when there is an absence of restoration of full governance to a people having the right to self-determination.”:
“.. armed conflict between the Sinhala-controlled government and the Tamil people, must be understood in terms of an “imperfect” de-colonization process by the British. Once again, two distinct countries – in this case the Tamil nation and the Sinhala nation — were amalgamated under “unitary” rule by the colonizers. The Sinhala and the Tamil people in the island of Ceylon are as distinct as say the Finns and Italians. The colonizers understood this clearly. The first colonial power on the island, Portugal, was only able to conquer the Tamil country more than 100 years after it conquered the Sinhalese one. In 1621 the Portuguese captured the Tamil king Sankili and killed him. The Dutch took over the island from the Portuguese, and apparently were able to exercise some loose governance over the Tamil areas but mostly ruled from the Sinhalese lands. When the British came, they were able to establish a unitary rule. This was not without protest from Britain’s own early administrators, as the first of them said, and I paraphrase here, “I do not know how we are going to do this — these people are really different”, recognizing that in this case, the forced marriage of unitary rule would never work. And in fact during the British administration, the two peoples were probably less amalgamated together than in other areas where the British created “unitary” states: there was clearly a governance recognizing the very different natures of these people. In the de-colonization process in Sri-Lanka, there was an attempt between the Tamil and Sinhala leadership to try out a post-colonial unitary state despite the historic situation of the two countries. In the first two constitutions, there was an agreement between the majority Sinhalese people and the numerically fewer Tamil people for a government structure that would guarantee that the Tamil people would not become fatally submerged under the Sinhala. So there was an attempt to avoid submersion in the language of the Constitution of 1947. Before the ink was dry, the Sinhala leadership began to violate the terms.”
Karen parker explains the Imperfect colonization raising four different scenarios :
“Imperfect de-colonization occurs when there is an absence of restoration of full governance to a people having the right to self-determination. There are several types of imperfect de-colonization. In one scenario, separate States conquered by a colonial power were amalgamated into what the colonial powers frequently referred to as a “unitary” state — a kind of forced marriage between the two or more formerly separate States. The people of these States usually have different languages, ethnicities, religions or cultures. At the termination of the colonial regime, the colonial power may simple turn over power to one of the groups and leave the other group or groups essentially entrapped into the new de-colonized State. The entrapped group may resist this, and may seek to restore its pre-colonial sovereignty.
In another scenario, these different groups may decide to continue as a unitary State, but with an agreement (usually through the de-colonization instrument or national constitution) that if it does not work out, then the component parts would go back to their pre-colonial status of independent units. This is what I call a “we’ll give it a try” abrogation of full independence by usually the smaller group or groups with clear op-out rights (a fall-back position) if the “unitary” system set up by colonial power fails to afford them full rights. However, when a component part seeks to opt-out, the dominant power refuses.
In yet another scenario, one State may forcibly annex a former colonial people, but either the effected peoples, the international community or both do not recognize this as a legal annexation. The international community may have even mandated certain procedures, as yet unrealized, by which the effected people are to indicate their choice regarding self-termination rights.
In a fourth scenario, there may be a situation where a small component part of a colonially-created “unitary” state agreed to continue the unitary State but with no particular “op-out” agreements signed. Rather, there were either verbal or negotiated, written agreements about how the rights of the smaller (or in some situations weaker) group would be protected in the combined State. However, the smaller or weaker group then experiences severe curtailments of their rights over a long period of time by the dominant group and may lose the ability to protect its rights by peaceful means.”
TGTE Prime Minister Rudrakumaran maintains “two state solution” as being the best solution
In an interview with the Sunday Leader just before the presidential elections, TGTE’s Prime Minister Visuvanathan Rudrakumaran still maintained that he would most favour a “two state solution” [19] and was willing to if the international community so requested to hold “conditional talks with the winner, strongly believing in a referendum to decide the fate of Tamil Eeelam:
“We want to have friendly relations with our Sinhala brethren. However, since the Sri Lankan State is deeply entrenched with racism, we do not believe that we can have reconciliation within the existing state. We firmly believe that the two-state solution will foster mutual respect and camaraderie. We believe very firmly that democracy is at its best when it is taken directly to the people. Thus, in our parliamentary sitting, held 7 December, 2014, the TGTE passed a unanimous resolution calling upon the international community to “conduct a referendum among the people living legitimately in the North-Eastern part of the island of Sri Lanka, which constitutes Tamil Eelam, and all people living outside the island of Sri Lankan having an origin in Tamil Eelam, to exercise their freedom to determine their political future, including the option of an independent and sovereign state of Tamil Eelam, to resolve the Tamil National Question.” In this connection, since we are campaigning the international community with respect to our referendum, if the international community asked us, in order to create a conducive environment, we would say we are willing to talk to the winner, whether that be Mr. Maithripala Sirisena or President Mahinda Rajapaksa, with the engagement of the international community.
Rudrakumaran wants to build solidarity among the Tamil Diaspora organisations with respect to a referendum on Independent Eelam
“Not only the TGTE, but also the International Council of Eelam Tamils and the British Tamil Forum have been explicit in calling for an independent state as a just resolution to the Tamil National Question. All the organizations, including the GTF, are committed to protect and promote the human rights of the Tamil people. The right to choose a government, as well as the right to choose the political unit in which an individual wants to live, are at core fundamental human rights. Thus we believe that all of the Tamil organizations can subscribe to this idea, and have consensus on the need to hold a referendum as a baseline for settling the Tamil National Question.”
Rudrakumar also believes ” state actors would recognise the (Tamil) struggle”
“No State can reject the rationality of our claim. States do not act solely on justice, morality and legality. State actions are heavily influenced by their national interests. International powers, as well as regional powers, still believe that Sri Lanka remaining as a single entity will further their national interest. However, Sri Lanka’s recent actions will dispel this illusion very soon. When that happens, we are confident that state actors will recognize our position. I must also say that the international civil society is increasingly subscribing to our position.”
UK’s Future Role
when the United Kingdom was preparing for a referendum on an independent Scotland, I wrote a piece calling Sri Lanka to, “Follow UK’s example and hold that referendum in the NorthEast. [20] where I commended the UK political parties for coming together to agree to holding a referendum to decide Scotland’s fate and said that, ” Sri Lanka should follow UK’s example and hold that referendum on independence in the NorthEast and Let the People Decide.. either way.”
In my article: With Maithri, Ranil & Mangala – Real Change Should Occur For Tamils Too[21] I wrote about David Cameron delivering on the vow that UK’s political parties made before the referendum and how they kept their promise to Scotland : “Scotland spoke, we listened and now we are delivering – With these words Prime Minister David Cameron spoke of the Bill he would be introducing in Westminster that, would in his view make, “Hollyrood (Scottish Parliament) the most powerful devolved parliament in the world.” [22]
I believe UK can play a lead role in convincing Sri Lanka to follow its lead and hold that referendum in the island. Will Sri Lanka match up to the UK, it could and it could be UK’s future role in convincing Sri Lanka.
My feelings after the Scottish referendum and remembering what Cameron said
What would always stay with me after following the Scottish election results that turned out to be a close No vote – was what David Cameron said the morning after the night before – I couldn’t help but write my feelings down that morning itself:
Yes the referendum has been conducted in Scotland ; the Scots have voted; the votes have been counted; the results are out and the Scots have decided to stay in the union. But the matter does not end there. It has only begun. The Scots did not give-up independence for nothing. Now the promise for change that was made to the Scots has to be delivered upon. As somebody said in a tweet, it`s not the end of the United Kingdom but the rebirth of new and different United Kingdom with an undertaking that it won’t be business as usual. The Scottish Referendum is set to herald major constitutional reform affecting not only Scotland but the whole of the United Kingdom.
The morning after the referendum, Prime Minister David Cameron standing in front of No 10 Downing Street, made THE most important speech of his life, in my view, setting out the tone and future direction of the United Kingdom, where he said , “we now have a chance and a great opportunity to change the way the British people are governed and change it for the better.“
This epoch making speech by a man whom it was feared would be the Prime Minister who presided upon the break-up of the union, would now be remembered as the man who called for change on that bright September morn, year 2014 and promised to `deliver on that change not only the Scottish people but England, Wales and Northern Ireland as well.”
What UK achieved that day from what Cameron said;
“The people of Scotland have spoken. And it is a clear result and they have kept our country of four nations together. Let us remember why we had this debate and why it was right to do so. The Scottish National Party was elected in 2011 and promised a referendum on independence. We could have blocked that or put it off. But just as with other big issues it is right to take and not to duck the big decisions….I am a democrat“ and it was right we respected SNP’s majority in Hollyrood and gave the Scottish people the right to have their say…… Record numbers registered to vote and record numbers cast their vote. We should all be proud of that. It has reminded us how fortunate we are that we are able to settle these issues at the ballot box peacefully and . And now we must look forward and turn this for everyone, whichever way they voted to comes together to build that better, brighter future, for our entire United Kingdom. ” [23]
I believe UK can play a major role in bringing peace to Sri lanka…because it can share its experience on why UK did it and how. And just as I wrote about the Scottish Referendum days before voting day – what UK achieved with the decision to conduct a referendum speaks volumes for the triumph of democracy; indeed speaks volumes for a triumph for self-determination; for decency, for peace.
[1] https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/maithri-proposals-on-constitutional-reforms-full-text/
[2] http://www.tamilguardian.com/article.asp?articleid=13670
[3] http://www.colombomirror.com/?p=2331
[4] https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=430794927077809&id=100004419153414
[5] http://www.todayonline.com/world/asia/sri-lanka-seeks-quash-or-defer-un-war-crimes-inquiry
[6] http://colombogazette.com/2015/02/07/tna-oisl-team-discuss-report/
[7] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrhqs8QvEjA#t=22…
[8] http://tamilnet.com/art.html?
[9] http://www.colombomirror.com/?p=2284
[10] http://www.tamilnet.com/
[11] https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/an-internal-war-crimes-inquiry-will-be-a-farce/ …
[12] http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/16/sri-lanka-cameron-international-war-crimes-inquiry
[13] http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/125187/Colebrook-Cameron-Commission
[14] http://www.sangam.org/FACTBOOK/broken.htm
[15] https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/tamil-perspective-dangerous-and-genocidal- dayange-chinthanaya/
[16] https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/s-j-v-chelvanayakam-the-father-of-the-tamil-nation/
[17] https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/acts-of-betrayal-that-broke-the-letter-spirit-of-independence/
[18] http://www.guidetoaction.org/parker/selfdet.html
[19] http://www.thesundayleader.lk/2014/12/21/tgte-ready-for-conditional-talks-rudra-v-rudrakumaran/
[20] https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/follow-uks-example-hold-that-referendum-on-independence-in-the-northeast/
[21] https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/with-maithri-ranil-mangala-real-change-should-occur-for-tamils-too/
[22] http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-30915457
[23] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11108256/Scottish-independence-David-Camerons-speech-in-full.html
Amarasiri / February 11, 2015
Usha S Sri-Skanda-Rajah
RE: Tamil Issues In Back Burner: The Problem The Broken Covenant – UK’s Future Role?
For how long were the Tamil Issues In the Front Burner: Was the Problem solved?
When it was in the Front Burner they expelled the Muslims.
The problem the Tamils are facing is the issue between Tamils with Common Sense and Tamil Muuutals (மூடல்ஸ்). Fortunately, Tamils with common sense voted for Mr. Matripala Siriserna in 2015, During 2002 and 2010 The Tamil Muuutals (மூடல்ஸ்) prevailed.
Will the issue be resolved putting in the back burner?
The Problem The Broken Covenant – UK’s Future Role?
Did you say UK? Please talk to the Palestinians. Have you heard of the Sykes Picot Sykes–Picot Agreement?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sykes%E2%80%93Picot_Agreement
The Sykes–Picot Agreement, officially known as the Asia Minor Agreement, was a secret agreement between the governments of the United Kingdom and France,[1] with the assent of Russia, defining their proposed spheres of influence and control in the Middle East should the Triple Entente succeed in defeating the Ottoman Empire during World War I. The negotiation of the treaty occurred between November 1915 and March 1916.[2] The agreement was concluded on 16 May 1916.[3]
The agreement effectively divided the Arab provinces of the Ottoman Empire outside the Arabian peninsula into areas of future British and French control or influence.[4] The terms were negotiated by the French diplomat François Georges-Picot and Briton Sir Mark Sykes. The Russian Tsarist government was a minor party to the Sykes–Picot agreement, and when, following the Russian Revolution of October 1917, the Bolsheviks exposed the agreement, “the British were embarrassed, the Arabs dismayed and the Turks delighted.”[5]
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Laxmi / February 11, 2015
USHA
You and TNA have missed the bus again! A golden opportunity to push minority rights and Tamil rights was missed because of great stupidity and envy and jealousy among Tamils who did not want Sumanthiran to get a portfolio…
Behaving like Prabakaran who could not and did not know how to MAKE PEACE, the TNA unfortunately and stupidly turned down the offer of the Ministry for National Languages, lands and Reconciliation to Mr. Sumanthiran in the new cabinet..
Tamils lost, and now you complain! Get real and do some introspection instead of always blaming the Sinhalas folk!
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Off the Cuff / February 11, 2015
Good observation Laxmi.
It was a powerful Ministry that was rejected.
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Anpu / February 11, 2015
OTC,
“powerful Ministry” was it like the ministry MY3 had under KING RAJAPAKSE. Just before the election Powerful MY3 said he could not do anything.
Powerful MY3 wants Tamils to live surrounded by armed forces for ever.
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Off the Cuff / February 11, 2015
Dear Anpu,
Re “was it like the ministry MY3 had under KING RAJAPAKSE. Just before the election Powerful MY3 said he could not do anything”
That’s why we kicked him out.
President Maithripala is powerful today but was powerless then. We all knew that. Not only he, the cabinet sans the Rajapaksa’s were powerless.
Re “Powerful MY3 wants Tamils to live surrounded by armed forces for ever”
Armed forces are there in the South as well.
What makes you think that the North should be excluded?
For 30 years there was an illegal, 100% Tamil, armed force in the North and the Tamil civilians lived under the Thumb of that armed force. That armed force invaded ALL ASPECTS of civilian life. Did you object?
There is a large number of members of that illegal armed force who have been trained to kill living in that area. Please don’t lose sight of that fact.
You cannot deny that the numbers of the SL armed forces has seen a gradual reduction after the war. If you could wait 30 years without a murmur when the armed forces in the North was a 100% Tamil, Tyrannical, illegal armed force, surely you can wait for gradual normalcy to return to the North.
Kind Regards
OTC
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jansee / February 11, 2015
Laxmi:
There are two Tamil ministers in the present cabinet. One of them actually handles the portfolio directly affecting the Tamils. Surely your stupidity ignored this point. Let us what this two Ministers will be able to do? The Tamils aka TNA never missed the bus. Successive sinhala regimes started painting the “bus” in different colours to deceive the world that they are indeed different buses, and in fact for some measure the world community bought into that deceit too but, too bad, the Tamils had always knew that this was the same old bus. Guess who do you think is stupid.
Never mind about Sumanthiran. The current regime is in high office thanks to the overwhelming support from the Tamils. You are talking as if the Sinhalese overwhelmingly prostrated at the feet of Sirsena and gang. Instead, they continued to support and vote for a butcher. Yet you have the cheek to lecture the Tamils. It is more than a month since the election and save for a few cosmetic dressings, nothing tangible has been accorded to the Tamils. MR became president because the Tamils did not vote at all, and Sirisena rode on the overwhelming support of the Tamils. From the top leader to the masses, the sinhalese are the most ungrateful and deceitful lot. Period.
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Off the Cuff / February 11, 2015
There are still many obstacles are ahead and the promises and the expectations may never be fulfilled. In addition, the discourse and rhetoric of fear, rumour, darkness and hatred is still trying to make a comeback. It is true that the minorities did make a difference in this election but we must also ask why the former incumbent’s share of the Sinhala vote dropped from 65% to 55%- that is what made him lose the election since the minorities have always voted against his policies. It is the split in the Sinhala vote more than the minority vote that delivered this election to M. Sirisena. To see it as anything else is to deliberately obfuscate the issues.
Radhika Coomaraswamy
http://dbsjeyaraj.com/dbsj/archives/37334
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vishvajith / February 12, 2015
I wonder whether those who don’t like your comment, are too entrenched in their thoughts and don’t want to understand your views.
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Javi. / February 12, 2015
Heyna ,Modaya Crocuta quoting another ambulance runner like Dayan.
The sinhala buddhist had no majoriy like like the JT’s you try to include all Sihala in one lump.
Maths never gets intto politicians head.
ooooO
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Praba from Grave / February 12, 2015
Javi
I thought CT Lover has seen the back of you. No but you are still lurking in the mud ccffing out dirt.
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Javi. / February 12, 2015
You are still wearing itchy underwear; the Chinese never offered you a toilet in your village for good reason even though they are the worlds first `inventors of the potty.
Kaliya’s natte you are dead centerpiece smelly Phew!!!-
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jansee / February 12, 2015
Off the Cuff:
Is this the woman who had selective memory and coming from DBS Jeyaraj?
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Off the Cuff / February 12, 2015
What selective memory are you rambling about?
Radhika has made an astute observation.
The Tamils voted against MR because the TNA went house to house campaigning against MR. The TNA knew what was in store for them for the next 8 years and 2 months IF MR came to power and that’s why they campaigned house to house.
Since you have lost your memory this will refresh it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCBWqJ0WOCU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNpzECALZBU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y84QZcPU3nY
Wigs would have been fighting with Douglas Deva without let up for 8 years 2 months and Douglas Devananda would have been holding all the aces and government power during that time, and would have ground Wigs and the TNA under his boot.
The Tamils wanted good governance and SOME of the Sinhalese wanted good governance. Just be thankful that they did find common ground.
Radhika is right about what she says.
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Javi. / February 12, 2015
a woman who used her unrelated surname (ananda coom of anglo saxon mum )for entry to school to Uni to UN. is now a lost shoe.
father was just show off thinking he was jessima the cricket legend.
Another lankian tainted kicker looking for glory when thery should kick the bucket- run along with ambulances/
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crazyoldmansl / February 12, 2015
If you just remove the minority vote you will see that without it Maithri lost the election.
Your UGLY pig headed RACISM interferes with your math.
Democracy in this island belongs to the minorities.
The majority of the majority is nothing more than a bunch of uncivilized racists with nothing like ethics or culture as they showed the whole world through their great king Mahindas regime of the last ten years.
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Off the Cuff / February 12, 2015
Of course crazyoldmansl, without the minority vote Wigs and the TNA would be fighting a loosing battle with Douglas Devanada for the next decade.
Without the vote of the minority of the majority Wigs and the TNA would still be fighting a loosing battle with Douglas Devanada for the next decade.
Just like what we see here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCBWqJ0WOCU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNpzECALZBU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y84QZcPU3nY
Because these two groups found common ground we have a chance at good governance.
You cannot clap with one hand.
It is foolish to assume that you can.
Kind Regards,
OTC
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Off the Cuff / February 11, 2015
Usha S Sri-Skanda-Rajah,
Amarasiri poses a valid question, hope you will not avoid it like you avoided the questions posed under your previous article.
Re “Whilst everyone keeps Tamil issues in the backburner (we really do not know if the TNA has been promised a deal which it’s not fully ready to reveal”
Funny to observe that the supposed Govt of Tamil Eelam is clueless as to what the Elected representatives of the Northern Tamils do!
They don’t seem to be having any confidence in your antics!
No one would deny that there was a Tamil Kingdom and that it was subjugated by the Portuguese who were then subjugated by the Dutch. No one will deny that the Tamils were persecuted, inhumanely tortured and put to an inhumane death by the Portuguese because they refused to give up their Hindu faith and become Christian. What is being denied is the extent of that Kingdom far beyond the actual boundaries that existed.
The Dutch Govt says that they built a fort to protect the Dutch held Jaffna Kingdom from cross border attacks by the Armies of the Kandyan King (Sinhala Kingdom) at Elephant Pass. As you know very well Elephant Pass is where Peninsular Jaffna joins the Mainland of Lanka.
This is irrefutable proof that the WHOLE of the Eastern Seaboard of Lanka was under a Sinhala Kingdom.
http://www.atlasofmutualheritage.nl/en/location/?id=813
Please look at the Eelam Map of the TGTE in the following websites
http://www.tgteparliament.com/
http://www.tgte-us.org/
http://tgte.org/
https://ta-in.facebook.com/tgte.uk
http://www.tgte-homeland.org/
That land claimed as Eelam is around 40%
The claimed coastline is around 60%
Sri Lanka has a land area of 65,000 km2 and a coastline of 1,562 km (probably more than 2,000 km if the coastlines of lagoons, bays, and inlets are added). The coast-line itself consists of a wide range of geomorphological features such as head-lands, bays, lagoons, peninsulas, spits, bars, and islets. It encompasses a variety of tropical habitats including wetlands (about 120,000 ha); lagoons and estuaries (45 estuaries and 40 lagoons totaling about 42,000 ha); mangroves, salt marshes, and seagrass beds (the total extent of mangrove coverage is between 6,000 and 10,000 ha); coral reefs (about 50 linear km of major reefs); and coastal sand dunes, barrier beaches, and spits (sand dunes occur along about 312 km of the coastline).
Using census data the population growth can be estimated. Hence working backwards from known data we can arrive at a plausible estimate of the Tamil population before the arrival of the British.
Thus in 1792 the Tamil population would be about 75,000 – 80,000.
How this small population populated, 26,000 sq km and defended a POROUS boundary of nearly 2000 km, against a population more than 5 times their size, defies all reason.
On the subject of War Crime investigations, Ms Adele Balasingham against who copious evidence of War Crimes is available has gone under you Radar. You have been silent about her who is living under the nose of Cameron and the TGTE (including you). Is she exempt from your crusade? Can you explain why?
Questions were raised about the integrity of the UNSG’s Panel. You have ducked all of them. Why did they IGNORE the ICC Statute and absolve the LTTE of using Human Shields?
A detailed analysis is available here
https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/way-to-prosecute-us-citizen-gotabaya/comment-page-1/#comment-1758527
What do you have to say Usha?
Kind Regards,
OTC
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Ravi Perera / February 11, 2015
OTC,
Brilliant piece of writting.
The tamil kingdom that was in existence when the protugees came never included the East, infact it was smaller than the present day Northern province.
What can’t these Tamils write when there are Tamils who believe King Duttugemnu was a tamil
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Off the Cuff / February 12, 2015
Thank you Ravi
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Javi. / February 12, 2015
Hysterical Lying DownMeth Mouth, Crocuta crocuta, Terrorist
Dal`eat` IT`untouchable parripu preek preek preeeek,
2 rotten ambarellas. parasite in profession like the 1/2 maggot who came by
Hora_Oru with slave master-
Para_demalas .sihala spreken, tamil spreken. puta madre cabeza.
R.i.P eee.
ooooO | Ooooo
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Javi. / February 12, 2015
“”What do you have to say Usha? “”
Na ,na ,na ,na Nana nana thoppi-
The time is drawing while you quarrel tamil speaking tamil bigots and sihala speaking tamil bigots- both baath gullas Dal¬it` parripu preek preek porikki preeeeek.
The is on the way to state hood just like Nagaland and Sikkim never ruled by the Mughal- Hindu warriors of the himalayas like the Nepali Guraka.
Lanka/Eelam was ruled from East India Company – all are minorities dal_eat. No problem then your indian will have better value for you than your Crocuta sword flag passport.
Chakka OTC- Chuff, chufe Chuff, no potty infectious to north & south Phew!!
Hari Hari!!
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BBS Rep / February 11, 2015
Usha,
Tamil issues are in the backburner, the loku horas are still free, the IGP under who so many blatent criminal activities took place is still the IGP, the anti Tamil JHU is hand in glove with the present government, My3’s brother was appointed to a cushy job and this is business as usual Sri Lankan political style.
So don’t hold your hopes too high Usha.
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Paul / February 11, 2015
‘what UK achieved with the decision to conduct a referendum speaks volumes for the triumph of democracy;…’
What the UK achieved was to ensure that the Labor party lose all its Scottish MPs and the Scottish Nationalists continue the push for independence on the basis that no amount of devolution is enough. This will be seen in the coming May General election. This is precisely what Sri Lanka must avoid.
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Siva Sankaran Sarma / February 11, 2015
A referendum following the Scottish wouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing: all these LTTE diaspora monkeys hiding in western ghettos will be ineligible to vote :D
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Native Vedda / February 11, 2015
Wee Thamihz Senior Journalist D: Siva Sankaran Sarma Menon
“all these LTTE diaspora monkeys hiding in western ghettos will be ineligible to vote :D”
Brilliant,
Why couldn’t the LTTE diaspora monkeys hiding in western ghettos think this pertinent point in the first place.
Now that you have mentioned it the LTTE diaspora monkeys hiding in western ghettos should start working on alternative strategies until you the Wee Thamihz Senior Journalist D: Siva Sankaran Sarma Menon pick holes in it.
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manivannan / February 11, 2015
please GO AND LOOK AT SOUTH SUDAN REFERANDUM
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Javi. / February 12, 2015
and the Oil flows to Ethopia the final destination of the war mongers- whats more the $1 billion rail line is complete I suppose so.
F**ing douche bag politician villager tiger rump.
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Javi. / February 12, 2015
Lanka is going the way of scots who would form the grand coalition.
But lanka eventually become a ¬state of Hindia` which it was and is in the Indian ocean before NaMo leaves in 10 years.
Your passport with Crocuta is your disgrace so you would get one as an Indian state with 3 lions like brits- abstract because only in Africa the colonies….
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Patriots / February 11, 2015
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Javi. / February 11, 2015
He never promised you a rose garden… the ethnic issue obviously has to be last (3rd according to The Hindu) in the pecking order to glide it through.
Surely ethinic order would not be at the cost of Tamils living in the rest of the island quite distinct to JT’s Sena, or for that matter the tamil/sihala speaking muslims.
If you have nothing to moan about please don’t moan in the newsroom ct but donate for good causes towards women and kids of lanka.
Love breeds Love “the other way around”. :-))))
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Off the Cuff / February 11, 2015
Congratulations
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jansee / February 11, 2015
Javi:
Of course he never promised a rose garden. The Tamils know perfectly what credibility, honesty and sincerity can they expect from a race that does even have the basic decency to honour any promise. That has been the shameful history of the sinhala race. Even dogs wag their tails in gratitude. Need I say more.
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Javi. / February 11, 2015
Janup & See,
If only you could take your mind off and see like a child the world you see would be a better place. The chinese sleep with an open eye because you are just another weretiger behaving like a clown. Howszat??
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jansee / February 11, 2015
Javi:
Now I see the problem: you behave like a child or worse like a kindergarten kid not wanting to grow up and expect others not to grow up. Don’t expect everyone to have patience if you still want to sleep in your cocoon.
And you got the brilliant point: in the way SL has been mortgaged to the Chinese, it is you who better keep your eyes open, just like a monkey sitting on the tree-top glaring its teeth at every beck and call. How sad.
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Javi. / February 12, 2015
ʘʘ Don’t expect everyone to have patience if you still want to sleep in your cocoon.
Animal Jaguar/Tiger go growl else where before you loose your set of teeth.
Everybodies opponent is wrong I dont take anything seriously as bigots like you because i could be wrong- but then you are a villager still washing his butt with bare hand. Your blood never changes Dal`it` parripu porriki Maddu, Addu, Ganndu. Gand pe lath (canning)
in the way SL has been mortgaged to the Chinese,
$3 billion -$5 billion arse licking Poof The Chinese always negotiate Win-Win in 10’s of Billions anfd the maximum they can invest per annaum is $100.
First time they put all in one basket was “2007-“80 Citi Bank a $100 billion which went into dust by Citi reinvesting the lot in Maggie May double.
Go stick to your kallathoni para_demala Hora_oru.
Individuals are born and they grow it always depends on what you eat the rest is all adoption that shows while at battle.
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jansee / February 12, 2015
Javi:
“Everybodies opponent is wrong I dont take anything seriously as bigots like you because i could be wrong- but then you are a villager still washing his butt with bare hand.”
I understand your poor upbringing – sorry you are still resorting to “bare hands”. I can help you to set up the sanitation scheme to clean both your top and bottom.
Surely you are not just surviving on cinnamon. May be you are – explains your twisted mind.
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Javi. / February 12, 2015
Scum bag the aristocrats spice has always been nutmeg and cinnamon for dyeing.
You are rotten cotte stateless molagathanni.
Go jump in the sea bin lardens tainted knickers is your best bet.
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Javi. / February 12, 2015
“” I understand your poor upbringing”2
Oi, karuna’s tainted knickers is your meal servant boy doing the Fellatio!
you are dying brand and a coward like the rest of paramiltary.
We wont miss you or extended family as our target- when it begins like never seen before all tamils/sihala speakers would be charred..
Hinduistan ki Jai.
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Off The Wall / February 11, 2015
Usha/TGTE
However much you may try to help Mahinda’s return to power with your demented statements on behalf of the kooky TGTE, it is not going to happen. Without the Sinhala majoritarianism of Mahinda your Eelam cause is lost.
The people in Sri Lanka have shown clearly in the presidential elections that they are moving away from the kind of racist politics that sustained you and your Sinhala racist counterparts all these years. Sri Lankans have disproved all doomsayers and have shown the world how resilient their democracy is by staging a silent revolution and accomplishing a smooth transfer of power.
The Tamils in Sri Lanka are rejoining mainstream politics in order to build a pluralist and egalitarian society. In the long run what is envisaged is the de-ethnicization of politics – unlike you and your pathetic TGTE. You will never give up your racism because you know you are a zilch without your tribal identity markers.
You cannot stop the march of history by typing some garbage out of boredom living alone in a desolate, freezing country. Sri Lankan politics and the destiny of the Tamils who actually live there are too important to be the hobbyhorse of social climbers and other lost souls looking for some ‘glory’ to leave behind before they kick the bucket.
Eelam fatigue is setting in both locally and in the diaspora. The international community is just fed up with your pushy campaign of lies and deceit and constant hustling. Now it is doomsday for the Eelamites.
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lal / February 11, 2015
Very sensible observation from Off the Wall. I sincerely hope that the days of ethno-religious politics in Sri lanka are a thing of the past. The likes of Usha and terror associated spokesman of Ealaanists will fade with time into irrelevance. It is worth noting that extremists such as BBS have been silenced but voices of revenge seeking Ealaamists are yet to see the sea change in Sri lankan politics and they intent on keeping the flames of hatred alive. That’s where Usha’s back burner comes to play and I hope she will burn her own back soon! … and the front as well!
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jansee / February 11, 2015
Off the wall:
Do you really know what is “dementia”? The TNA and the CM of the NPC made direct call to the Tamil electorate to vote for Sirisena. The democracy that you so passionately mention happened thanks to the good-spirited Tamils. The majority sinhalese voted for the return of MR, the butcher you so much wish to detest.
Even if the Tamils have extended their hearts of warmth and hands of friendship, the actions of the last one month has amply showed that your version of the “march of history” is at best a delusional and tragic journey into the wilderness. If you have even the slightest doubt about your so-called “fatigue” the resolution passed by the NPC yesterday with a CM who pinned down a genocidal regime will put to rest any doubts. MR came to the North crying to console a “known devil” rather than “unknown angel”. What do you think would Sirisena and Ranil plead when their turn comes. The goodwill of the Tamils will decide who should be ruling you sinhalese. Ironical isn’t it?
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navinda / February 11, 2015
hi mrs skandaraja all i see is that you badly want to create tamil eelam and create it in the pretext of freedom and democracy …… although i agree being a singhaleese that tamils were greatly betrayed by the nation ……… the north was inhabited traditionally by tamils because THE CHOLA KINGS kept invading sri lanka From TAMIL NADU . so the right to divide should lie within the collective nation ……
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Prem / February 11, 2015
Chola king invaded Pandya king only .
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Native Vedda / February 11, 2015
Usha S Sri-Skanda-Rajah
“Not even in his proposals for constitutional reforms [1] has he made any inroads or mentioned any power sharing arrangement.”
I suggest you start Eelam War VI. You might even successfully reverse LTTE’s fortunes. Where VP failed you could succeed.
By the way where is VP?
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Javi. / February 12, 2015
“By the way where is VP? “
Like the Somali homes raid at Toronto which was a success story the JT’s are coming to that stage in the west- ?Raj Rajratnam was only the beginning.
All those money laundering enterprises will be traced back to LTTE origin and their connections to western charities via kit and kin .
Kenyan Gujarati’s know when to run these are pulli (sour) eggs remain sour wherever they go- always in Ghettos.
I have seen most of them with long lengths of qualifications stuck in the mud till someone super arrives and knocks them off- consultancy business and they are quick toi scream racist like their West Indian brothers the man eaters.
She must be feeling the head of bakldi pulli_muttai her new found glory – the con man comissioners prick of son.
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Richard Kaz / February 11, 2015
Sadly, the betrayal of the Tamil people is starting to take shape, one more time. Many of us hoped that those Tamil political entities within and outside Sri Lanka who called for Tamils to boycott the January Presidential elections were wrong, that this time around there might be a true change of heart for the Sri Lankan state and its external supporters. But as the west and India are planning to ditch the results of the international war crimes investigations to protect their newly ‘installed’ government in Colombo, the justice and security for the Tamil people and welfare and political rights of the Tamil people have been conveniently dumped. Maybe those who called for a boycott were right after all?
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Anpu / February 11, 2015
I agree with you Richard.
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Off the Cuff / February 11, 2015
Re “Maybe those who called for a boycott were right after all?”
Then Wigs would be fighting with Douglas Deva eternally and there would have been no end to this.
Watch the following 3 videos of the District Development Council of the NPC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCBWqJ0WOCU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNpzECALZBU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y84QZcPU3nY
Kind Regards,
OTC
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lal / February 11, 2015
To RK: You have not considered that the so called UNHRC report was bluff. It was a report of only accusations and devoid of hard facts. True, it might have made life a little hard for Rajapakses with accusations and, helped to oust them from power for standing upto the West. The time has come to dump the report in the waste paper basket. Any government would have done or like to have done what Rajapakses did for their country – exterminate barbaric terrorists on their soil. Afterall, the Tamil Terrorists were a worse breed than ISIS, IRA or any other. If at a ll any civilians perished during the military capmpaign the resposibility lies with LTTE Terrorists. Surely, RK will agree!
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Richard Kaz / February 12, 2015
The war crimes charges cannot be taken in isolation. The war crimes charges have to be taken in context given the history of Sri Lankan state terror against Tamils starting from the late 1950s. Not a single person in the Sri Lankan state was ever held responsible for the terror.
The Tigers are history, the ultimate accountability was applied to them with the crushing military defeat. However, where is the accountability for all the crimes the Sri Lankan state committed against the Tamil people including the slaughter of thousands of innocent Tamil civilians in the last months of the war. Tamil lives may not matter to you, the Sri Lankan state, India and the west but it does matter!!
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Off the Cuff / February 13, 2015
Dear Richard,
Why was The Prevention of Social Disabilities Act of 1957 enacted? Why was it necessary to add more teeth to that act 14 years later in 1971?
You see Kaz, Terror against Tamils went on even in the 1970’s in the Jaffna Peninsula and the Sinhalese had nothing to do with it, except of course enact the PSDA and amend it to protect the oppressed.
There were women prohibited to wear a Jacket. Oppressed Old women went about naked above the waist in the North. Most of the Tamils could not take a seat in a bus and had to sit on the floor even when there were empty seats, while the oppressors sat on seats. There were whole villages of outcasts who did not dare to be seen in society. Their children had no schools.
Bryan Pfaffenberger’s book, ‘Caste in Tamil Culture’ has the following
“The alleged oppression of the Tamils by the Sinhalese is mostly a defensive garb, to conceal the inner conflicts caused by the caste system among the Tamils”.
“Becoming a Vellala involves assuming Vellala customs and gaining control over land. It is precisely for this reason that entire villages may be burnt down and people killed over trivial incident as a Pallar cutting his hair or wearing a shoe. For Vellala much is at stake.”
It is raising it’s ugly head even overseas. Read this and the comments section to get a glimpse.
http://tamilculture.ca/clash-of-love-caste/
Yes Kaz there was oppression even late into the 1970s. Tamil oppression against the Tamils.
Kind Regards,
OTC
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White Flags / February 11, 2015
Tamil this, Tamil that.
This is all we have heard since the 1940s.
There is more to Sri Lanka than just Tamils.
When will Tamils get over their self obsession, communal minded politics and deep rooted racism? Stupid question to ask, Tamils since the 1940s vote for Tamil only Tamil racist parties who’s sole ideology and political platforms is promoting “TAMIL” above everything else with promises to crush non-Tamils, in particular Sinhalese. Any Tamil/Tamil politican who breaks away from this formula is not just unelectable for Tamils but branded a traitor who should be killed. No Tamil shed any tears when Laksman K (a real SL patriot) was killed. In fact there were cheers and happiness from the Tamil community in SL and out of it.
In the end its not the fault of the Sinhalese that the Tamils do not have a country. Tamils should try again in India and Malaysia, who knows, maybe the North Indians and the Malays won’t react as brutally as they did in the 1950s when Tamils started making noises on the political platform for Tamils domination/seperate states in those countries.
If only the Sinhalese reacted the same as the Malays and North Indians did those days we wouldn’t have had 30 years of war or Tamils so strongly believing they can make a homeland in Sri Lanka. The docile and weak responses of Sinhalese to Tamil racism and political violence and “aggigation” campaigns in the 1940 and 1950s is what emboldened Tamils to think they can “go all the away” against Sinhalese.
Tamils quickly realised how “successful” the early stages of their racist aggigatations campiagns were in Sri Lanka compared to Malaysia and India (where they were brutally and viciously crushed -democracy means nothing to the North Indians or Malays when it came to dealing with Tamils and their nations security). Tamils upon seeing the weak responses of Sinhalese, believed they could go to “next step” of using brutual and vicious violence on Sinhalese. When this backfired (as it always does) Tamils complain and play the victim.
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cholan / February 11, 2015
wow you have knowledge about Malaysia …….do you know Malaysia was once ruled by Chola Kings and even today there are ruins in the kedah State in Malaysia …..to prove Tamils lived there over 1500 years ago
The so called malays and politicians today are simply the immigrants arrived just 200 years ago ….only before 500 years Malays embraced Islam.. before that they were Hindus…
Biggest joke is today Malays mostly Indonesians settled called Indians and Chinease are immigrants…
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White Flags / February 12, 2015
LOL EXACTLY.
When Malaysia got Independence in 1957 it too was declared a Tamil Homeland by SJV-Chelvankayam the father of vicious Tamil racism in Sri Lanka who caused Sri Lanka’s problems dating back to the 1940s. Funnily enough this old racist and his family were born in Malaysia to only be kicked out by the angry Malays when they declared the Malays subordinate to Tamils as Tamils had been loyal to the British, so deserved more.
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Javi. / February 12, 2015
and His son Chandrahassan married to a sihalaese never ever thought like you nor his wife- Souther Gass Gembo the same bigot- sihala speaking Rump sihala buddhist
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ABCD / February 12, 2015
@White flags
if you are takling about North indians. In that case there are more north indians living in south india than south indians living in north india. So if anything happens it is north indians who are more likely to face violence not south indians. Also on average south indians are more richer and successfull than north indians from places like bihar and UP. So it should be south indians who look down upon north indians not the other way around.
Secondly in India there is more than just north india and south india. There is east india, west india central india etc.. So no one is a clear majority in india.
As for the dravidian arguement. It not only south indians that have dravidian in them. Most people in India have dravidian in them. Infact groups like Bengalis and Biharis eventhough not south indian have a lot of dravidian in them. So get your facts sorted out first.
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Javi. / February 13, 2015
They are robots built by Crocutas in (yellow colored one hyena breed)from the time of birth by their hora oru ancestors.
They were told to look north west Porkistan – Takshasila where they have purged but detectable to the naked eye(after all the spanish Buro/Buruva sihala bought in partially by the slave master Vass Goda & Almedia Governor till 1978)
They were informed of North East India- (the british desecrated this with Gandhi & Nehru- promoting Asoka the unknown mother, war criminal-
The Greatest Indian Chandra Gupta Mauyra Born: 340 BC, Pataliputra
Died: 298 BC, Shravanabelagola, India ON RETIREMENT)
A love story with Greek and Chandra- 4 years till his death.
http://indiaopines.com/chandra-gupta-maurya-greek-princess-helen-love-story/
He produced the Sanskrit and Greek Script after marriage to Greek goddess sort of and had Kajurao- Kamasutra sculpture (same as chola king sculptures of Dancing Shiva and Bali temples and Buddhist temples south indian shaft structure construction copy of ajanta etc.)
Alexandra the great left the biggest fart when he tried to cross the river.- its solid history.Chandragupta became Jain by faith after renouncing the throne. his son, Bindusara, was a prodigal son bas””rd with a harem that produced the war criminal Asoka who killed the 3 closest to throne by default and stole the show. Sihala Rump Buddhist is evident. But then Buddhism and Taoism came at the same time for a reason just after this in pali- it was never written in an year but dreamt of for centuries `the idea` not the person with hair and bare feet.
In foreign Greek and Latin accounts, Chandragupta is known as Sandrokottos and Androcottus.[4] He became well known in the Hellenistic world for conquering Alexander the Great’s easternmost satrapies, and for defeating the most powerful of Alexander’s successors, Seleucus I Nicator, in battle. Chandragupta subsequently married Seleucus’s daughter to formalize an alliance and established a policy of friendship with the Hellenistic kingdoms, which stimulated India’s trade and contact with the western world. The Greek diplomat Megasthenes, who visited the Maurya capital Pataliputra, is an important source of Maurya history.
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According to Plutarch, at the time of the Battle of the Hydaspes River, the Nanda Empire’s army numbered 200,000 infantry, 80,000 cavalry, 8,000 chariots, and 7,000 war elephants, which discouraged Alexander’s men and prevented their further progress into India:
“ “As for the Macedonians, however, their struggle with Porus blunted their courage and stayed their further advance into India. For having had all they could do to repulse an enemy who mustered only twenty thousand infantry and two thousand horse, they violently opposed Alexander when he insisted on crossing the river Ganges also, the width of which, as they learned, was thirty-two furlongs, its depth a hundred fathoms, while its banks on the further side were covered with multitudes of men-at‑arms and horsemen and elephants. For they were told that the kings of the Ganderites and Praesii were awaiting them with eighty thousand horsemen, two hundred thousand footmen, eight thousand chariots, and six thousand fighting elephants. And there was no boasting in these reports. For Androcottus, who reigned there not long afterwards, made a present to Seleucus of five hundred elephants, and with an army of six hundred thousand men overran and subdued all India.”
He captured most of the south too and fasted himself to death Karanataka age 42.
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Manicka Vasagar / February 11, 2015
Dear Usha,
Totally agree, the British has now the responsibility and obligation, and more importantly to make good and correct their own past mistakes they enforced on the Tamils in 1948, without understanding the long term implications for the minorities, by racists majoritarian rule.
They should support TGTE’s call and lobby the International Community and translate the Scotland’s voice, as a model to resolve the genocide of the Tamils in Sri Lanka. The Tamils need a just and an acceptable democratic “Choice”.
TGTE’s two state solution through a UN conducted referendum would be the only best and permanent peaceful option for the Tamils to find a solution to the long political, ethnic and religious problem.
TNA needs to support and work with all Diaspora groups to build solidarity to meet the aspirations of Tamils for self-determination.
Both the Sinhala Nation and the Tamil Nation need to move forward, develop and prosper with respect and trust for each other.
Live and let live, or die in shame.
Manicka Vasagar
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Soma / February 11, 2015
Dear mr Manicka Vasagar
In a two state solution Tamil speaking people in the Sinhala areas will be moved to North and East? If you do not want to live in one state with the Sinhalese surely we do not want to live with the Tamils here in our state. In the interim period for constructing the boundary wall will the United Kingdom pay the Sinhalesse for the upkeep of the Tamils?
Soma
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Off the Cuff / February 11, 2015
Not the East Soma.
That is outside the Tamil Kingdom of yore.
http://www.atlasofmutualheritage.nl/en/location/?id=813
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Don Stanley / February 11, 2015
Madam, tamil issues are on the back burner because the stupid TNA turned down the offer of the Ministry for National Languages, lands and Reconciliation in the new cabinet.
TNA could have led from the front the process of national reconciliation in the country and enabled Tamils to get their rights but TNA chose to be a Spoiler instead.
Seems that TNA and Tamil nationalists like you only complain and refuse to work constructively. Indeed whining and complaining seems to be all you and your ilk do!
The poor Tamils have no one to blame but their own political representatives for their plight now! LTTE rump which seems to lead the TNA is lacking totally in political strategy, and making same mistakes as sun god Prabakaran did!.
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Lanka Watch / February 11, 2015
Mr. Sambanthan’s credibility is at stake as he has failed to convince
Mr.Modi about the problems faced by the Tamils when he met him in India,last year.Although TNA bragged that Mr. Modi took up the matter
seriously but in fact, as per reliable sources, He told Mr.Sampanthan
to discuss directly with the SL. Govt.based on LLRC.Then he met several
foreign leaders with no tangible results. He had series of unofficial or shall we say, secret meetings with Mr Sirisena, Ranil Gen. Fonseka & CBK before the EP election but, though the Tamils voted en block for Mr. Sirisena as per TNA request, though most of the rural masses in the N/E never heard his name before, there are no reciprocal offers in sight as a gesture or goodwill for the Tamils, who voted him to power, except the routine change of the Governor and secretary of the NPC. This too is personal,to please Mr. Wigneswaran, who had been crowing about for a long time and not in the interest of Tamils.Tamils
would not have minded even a broom stick was positioned as governor NPC.as they wanted TNA to deliver and not the governor. Lately He had attended the Independence day celebrations with an appointed MP w/o prior permission from exco of TNA. This was a high handed act of Mr. Sambanthan, breaking a long standing tradition of non attendance, at a time, nothing reciprocal is coming in Tamil’s way and put the Tamils in an embarrassing position. Last and most important of all is that he could not convince Ms. Nisha Biswal, US under secretary that Tamils are very much concerned about the early release of the War crimes report by UN and she apparently had told Mr. Sampanthan in no uncertain terms that it may get post phoned as USA is more concerned to Keep Mahinda and China, away from the Sri lankans, rather than getting the culprits,who took part in the massacre of civilians in the war,punished. USA’s policy is to keep their enemies at bay at any cost, even losing their prestige. What has he achieved so far for the Tamils is the question asked by the Tamil voters, who have the history of having taken for a ride for the last 60 years. You may have something up your sleeves but Tamils need to know it as its a shame that the largest minority is side lined and you even had to talk about the problems of the indigenous Tamils to an hon. minister of Indian origin.
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Don Stanley / February 11, 2015
Madam, TNA needs to work for Tamils on the ground in Sri Lanka, CONSTRUCTIVELY and use the Spaces and opportunities provided by the new govt. because resolutions in Geneva cannot change lives in Lanka!
Madam, Tamil issues are on the back burner because the TNA unfortunately and stupidly turned down the offer of the Ministry for National Languages, lands and Reconciliation to Mr. Sumanthiran in the new cabinet, no doubt on instruction from the Diaspora.
Also, there is the jealousy factor. Other TNA members were jealous if Sumanthran gets a cabinet post, so TNA turn down the offer. Tamils are their own worst enemies who cant work for common good! They are a Jealous and hence also caste conscious lot who rarely self reflect!
TNA could have led from the front the process of national reconciliation in the country and enabled Tamils to get their rights but TNA chose to be a Spoiler instead.
Seems that TNA and Tamil nationalists like you only complain and refuse to work constructively. Indeed whining and complaining seems to be all you and your ilk do!
The poor Tamils have no one to blame but their own political representatives for their plight now! LTTE rump which seems to lead the TNA is lacking totally in political strategy, and making same mistakes as sun god Prabakaran did!
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jansee / February 11, 2015
Yesterday (10 Feb), the NPC passed a landmark resolution that is a watershed in the history of Tamils. The CM, in advocating the resolution, spoke at length the long stretch of events and incidents, the atrocities, etc inflicted on the Tamils by hell-bent Sinhala regimes that would amount to genocide.
While it may look like a new regime has replaced the autocratic Rajapakse regime, the recent statement by Ruwan Wijewardene on the continuing large scale army presence in the North does not inspire either confidence or trust. If the new regime can’t take into confidence the NPC and the Tamils, it cannot expect the Tamils to do otherwise. It cuts both ways.
Worse still, the statement by Ranil Wickramasinghe, along with the other members of his cabinet that it will not allow an international investigation and talks only of an internal investigation has deeply affected the Tamils. It has never been a case in SL that an honest and independent investigation has ever been held by any regime in SL and the regime can’t expect the Tamils to trust this regime too when it went on a wrong foot by its attempt to block the ongoing UNHRC investigation.
While Minister Rajitha has emphasised that the internal investigation will be conducted with the help of the international community, this is not the first time this has been promised or undertaken. All such efforts in the past has come to naught and has been at best to drag out the issues at hand. The Tamils are rightly weary of such pronouncements. As it has always been known, promises by sinhala regimes, and even those in writing, have been unceremoniously dumped and the Tamils can only watch in horror.
Mangala Samaraweera wasted no time in dashing off to the Indian and US capital to stall off the anticipated UNHRC report. Such urgency seems to be lost on the present regime in dealing with the Tamils’ issues. Why it has to be always the cart before the horse? Instead of desperately seeking to stall the UNHRC report, some tangible moves to show the Tamils that it really cares will not have only not prompted the NPC resolution but also will have instilled trust and confidence for the NPC to work with the present regime, and who knows, may have supported such a postponement. After all, the NPC CM made a bold announcement – to vote for Sirisena and the Tamils have delivered. Instead of cosmetic dressings, the regime has to show tangible changes in the Tamil heartland. For now, the bridge is still open for the regime to initiate moves to keep that bridge open.
The problem is essentially between a Sinhala regime and the Tamils. Instead of dealing with Tamils’ grievances, Mangala has become a jet-setter. The solution is at home but as if to intimidate and hoodwink the Tamils the regime has set itself on a collision course. The Tamils were forced to seek outside intervention when the ruling regimes paid no heed to the calls of the Tamils to investigate the alleged atrocities. The chilling news of how a journalist’s remains were crushed in a cement mixer will leave no room for guessing how a brutal regime handled by a psychopath will have gone about in destroying vital evidence of thousands of deaths. Expecting a regime, that more so believes in the leverage of political forces that helms the top offices of the regime, to sincerely and honestly investigate the heinous crimes is akin to asking the devil to judge the gods.
Making cocky statements like the one by Ruwan does not help. The Tamils have lost a great deal in the hands of successive sinhala regimes. If this problem continues to fester, then not only the resolution and its effects will take its natural course, there won’t be a Ranil, Ruwan, Mangala or Rajitha in the high offices they hold the next time around. The Tamils have extended a warm and sincere hand. Surely Ranil (and now Mahinda Rajapakse and his brothers) would not have forgotten how Tamils sent him packing the last time around. The Tamils can be the best friend and can be the worst nightmare.
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Javi. / February 12, 2015
[Edited out] karuna could never find a job so he set about murder and robbery
like you say most comments. Presumably it’s true.
so specality of [Edited out] karunas Fellatio.
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soma / February 11, 2015
Dear Mrs Skandarajah
in order to proceed with a practical, rational discussion on the subject
it is important that the category of population group known as “Tamils” is clearly identified at the outset.
Can you kindly tell us when YOU use the word “Tamils” which of the following sub categories are included:
1) Tamil speaking Hindus and Christians in the Northern Province
2) Tamil speaking Muslims in the Nothern Province
3) Tamil speaking Hindus and Christians in the Eastern Province
4) Tamil speaking Muslims in the Eastern Province
5) Tamil speaking Hindus and Christians in Colombo / Wellawatta
6) Tamil speaking Muslims scattered in various pockets among Sinhalese in areas outside Nothern and Eastern provinces
7) Tamils of recent Indian origin in up country estates
Thanks
Soma
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cholan / February 11, 2015
TAMILS or THAMILAR means those who have their mother tongue as TAMIL LANGUAGE
Muslims in SL wherever they live they speak Tamil language at home because it is their mother tongue why?
There were and there are Tamil poets,scholars in even in Dikwela in South How come?
For your information there were no Muslims in north and east of SL before the arrival of Portugease,indeed these muslims live in Tamil areas were converted once.
Every Muslim village / towns in the east has got pure Tamil name….please note that KAATHANKUDI was once ruled by a one tamil tribal chief named KAATHAN. Common Muslims names like SEENI MOHAMED,NAINA(R) MOHAMED clearly indicate they were Tamils.
Simply because Sinhalease are majority you can’t rule Tamils in SL who are living here even before historical period…your Mahavamsa is a con book give all fabricated stories indeed it was written in Pali language in early days because there was no Sinhala alphabet doubt even this language excisted then .
Veddas can say they are ancient people than Sinhalease ..here again they too have names like KANDASAMY and practice Hindu rituals ..who are they?
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soma / February 11, 2015
Dear Mrs Skanda Raja
Could you kindly enlighten us as to which of following categories will be entitled for voting at the referendum.
1) Tamil speaking Hindus and Christians in the Northern Province
2) Tamil speaking Muslims in the Nothern Province
3) Tamil speaking Hindus and Christians in the Eastern Province
4) Tamil speaking Muslims in the Eastern Province
5) Tamil speaking Hindus and Christians in Colombo / Wellawatta
6) Tamil speaking Muslims scattered in various pockets among Sinhalese in areas outside Nothern and Eastern provinces
7) Tamils of recent Indian origin in upcountry estates.
Thanks
Soma
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jansee / February 11, 2015
Soma:
When the Scots decided on the referendum, it was the SCOTS who voted. Why you want to go half-the-world to display you stupidity when the answer is so simple. The Tamils know how to decide their own future. The Muslims, despite most of them are Tamil speaking, have identified themselves as a different race and have for many years supported the Sinhalese until the BBS enlightened them of their right place.
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Soma / February 11, 2015
Janese, can you please refer to my list of 7 and tick one by one?
Soma
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jansee / February 12, 2015
Soma:
I will tick “NONE OF THE ABOVE” but unfortunately you did not see the wisdom that this could be one of the choice. How pathetic.
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Javi. / February 12, 2015
“”the sinhala soldiers are still hanging their clothes to dry.”2
you never had clothes only your pinnata atta pirikana and your borrowed para_sihala of hora oru origin.
You are in stage 2 of Hindian development of nuclear base- Keep clearing the land kill, kill, kill then ….comes jam, jam horizontal wave wave like micro wave and finally a tsunami to clear your carcuss to the deep blue sea- sihal, demala trouble makers con men of the world.
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Siva Sankaran Sarma / February 12, 2015
Actually it wasn’t “the SCOTS who voted”. It was EU and Commonwealth citizens resident in Scotland. That last bit is important – it spells disaster for LTTE diaspora monkeys waxing lyrical about the ” Scottish model” :D
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soma / February 11, 2015
Dear mrs Skandarajah
After the war I expected mass migration of Tamils from Sinhala areas to North and East, but according to a Tamil friend of mine not a single has taken the move. I expected a kind of organized effort led by TNA asking Tamils to go back to North and East in order to counter the effects of “colonization” by Sinhala governments where they can live peacefully within their cultural and religious environment. Even clever Mr Sumanthiran did not move house and never will I bet but prefer to live within the barbarian Sinhala Buddhists.
Thanks
Soma
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AVB / February 11, 2015
Soma,
Thanks for you analysis.. See, I am still sharing the country with stupid Somas, my elders showed me value of tolerance and I saw it, so I don’t leave like Tamils/Muslims in the South. You say you know a lot about Tamils.. How is your knowledge about mixed ( Kawalam) Sinhalese island tribe?
A) decedents of 700 thugs deported from North India including the leader with Animal genes.
B) read about “Jathies” like Karawa, Salagama” there are not casts but Jathies… Then read about Service casts like Rodi, Padu, Somas. Then compare common genetic features of Kerala/AndraPradesh/TamilNadu people and so called pure Sinhalese Aryans..
C) then what about Buddhist DeSilvas, DeMels, Pereras. And Catholic DeSilvas, DeMels, Pereras? Are they Sinhalese or Portuguese or Spanish?
Sorry if this hurt your superiority complex…
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soma / February 11, 2015
AVB, tell this to the people who talk about two states like the author of this article mrs Skkandarajah. I am all for living in one country where all citizens are absolutely equal in all respects
Soma
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K.A Sumanasekera / February 11, 2015
Ms S now wants Ms Pillai’s Investigation back dated rather than putting it on the Back Burner.
She wants Ms Pillai successors to rope in Queen Victoria as well.
How cool?.
They can ask for monetary compensation for the dethroning,, incarceration and killing the last Tamil King..
TNGTE is serious .. Isn’t it?.
I mean when the London Chapter is pumping 20 Billion pounds annually in to the Pommy Economy. PM Cameron surely can’t ignore them … Right’
Our SLMC mates on the other hand ,didn’t have to do any hard yards or sacrifice any lives to get their Caliphate..
It is fully running now in Batti, with Bathudeen, Assath Sally and Hakeem at the helm.
Hakeem even offered Sambandan a few spots for the Vellalas in the Islamist Cabinet.
When Sally, Bathu and Hakeen clean sweep the East at the next election under the new UNP gerrymander, Sambandan would have no choice but to put a few Vellalas from the TNA .
But the Dual Passport TNGTE Diasporians withh the Dosh, especially from London will find it hard to compete against the No Lit Boss and other new Money Muslims to do business in Batti.
Plus the Thoppigala and Pasikuda public land will be hard to get on favourable leases from the new owners Bathdeen, Assath and Hakeem..
I mean their Government and the CM.
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Native Vedda / February 11, 2015
K.A Sumanasekera
“Ms S now wants Ms Pillai’s Investigation back dated rather than putting it on the Back Burner.”
Forget what Usha S Sri-Skanda-Rajah wants.
Lets us have an independent investigation into all war crimes committed by all parties covering the period from 5th April 1971 to date.
In addition we demand a separate investigation into all forms of mental agony caused by your pathetic comments.
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K.A Sumanasekera / February 11, 2015
Dear Native,
President Sira can fix JVP Kumar too, who has turned in to a Hakeem’s Hat (the Fez) but for the wrong reasons.
But would Ms S her Boss PM , the Reverend, and of course the HR duo Surendran and cousin Kirubaharan agree?..
Even then Cameron, Harper, and Solheim have to tick it too.
What about Sambandan. Premachandran and Sivajilingam?.
Will the Vellals allow them to give the nod?.
If will be a lot of compo if you add the total.
I mean Katthankaddy alone is 300 plus.
The new CM there will ensure those victims are well represented with the best SLMC wigs.
Add Maha Bodi, Temple of the Tooth Kandy, Samanera in Aranthalawa, and Military Intelligence in Athurugiriya.
These are the ones which are well documented with no bodies missing and even TV footage of mass burials on U Tube.
Then you have to add the 71 , 83. 88/89 and of course 2009 where numbers are staggering, although no actual bodies are found.
Although your idea is brilliant. it is going to be messy.
Unless the current Regime and Ms S ‘s TNTGE make a deal and bear the cost of Compo 50 % each for the victims and or their dependents.
And forget the whole thing like in Two Twos Court, although no record of Afrikarners paying any compo to the dark skinned Dalits.
All those human losses occurred under the watch of the current leadership team and or their relos.. Right..
Chandrika, Cousin Ranil, and Mum Sirima together with Keselwatta Kid’s Dad.. says my Elders..
Rajapkasa on the other hand was fighting a ruthless Terrorist Group which was holding 300,000 fellow citizens as hostages, to get a safe passage to the West.
French kirchner Pommy Milliband and Norwegian Solheim surely have to attest to that. .
Because there is TV footage of them pleading with Rajapaksa in the middle of Nedumuala in May 2009 . And it is on U Tube too.
Wonder whether your Hindian FM and Security Minister’s’ plea in April 2009 have been recorded too?.
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bo / February 11, 2015
Despite your belly aching, you seem to be doing very well. Belly is half empty, is it?
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Mano / February 11, 2015
All seems to argue in various direction without giving a solution. Pray without bickering, can they come together discuss like adults. May the good lord usher choicest blessing to all! Mano
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jansee / February 11, 2015
Usha:
Thanks for the history lesson. Since it now appears that the 1971 constitution has been ILLEGALLY constituted to abrogate the rights accorded to the Tamils through the Soulboury constitution, can’t this matter be taken to an international forum for arbitration with the support of the British. May be Rudra who may be well disposed on the legal issues could explore this. And after all, the current CM is a legal luminary himself. This gross injustice should not be left to wither. It is impossible to live with a race that has no respect for promises, written included.
Of course, I will hope the new regime stops playing ‘goldilocks and the three bears” with the Tamils and get serious about giving the Tamils their due rights under a Federal set-up, otherwise it is better to part ways.
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Javi. / February 12, 2015
neither lansee nor jain but a bunch of rotton betti amba- kalu pukka,
The land does not belong to anyone’s pop; you stupid upstart.
No country is ruled by a majority- too many cooks spoil the broth..
You need generations to join the ruling clan Dal¬IT` eat preek Preek Porriki Parripu.
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jansee / February 12, 2015
Very glad to hear that. If it does not belong to anyone then why the sinhala soldiers are still hanging their clothes to dry.
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Javi. / February 12, 2015
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Javi. / February 12, 2015
the talk with the IITian brains world over is to make the island a super naval base for India in line with diego Garcia- learn to swim sihal modays Crocuta the Diego Garcians did it.
Hindian population is exploding they dont need hora_oru low class jammon jammon.
The reason for electing him a tea maker in the largest democracy and having an IITian prod him along from opposition is change in game of the largest democracy- 10 years see the difference.
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cholan / February 11, 2015
Tamil have given an opportunity to TNA because there is no alternative….these minister posts are nothing …as long as the Tamil issue prevails SL will not prosper.
Sinhalease should thank for Tamils for their support to MS …suppose if they have boycotted this election imagine what would have happened to you all ‘? Polpot MR and his Rabid GR would have buried more Sinhalese alive.
It is because of Sinhalese actions from 1956 – 1983 Tamils were compelled to take up arms and only with the help of 36 countries MR managed to silence them …not by SL forces… if you can’t still learn the lesson don’t blame others .Dont just dance for a borrowed military victory achieved ignoring all international laws…
The world is watching now this government wanted to delay the UN report …after this ? Tamils have lost faith in local commissions to eye wash the world …
Are these mothers ,kids ,wives crying and searching for their kith and kins in North East are mad?
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Off the Cuff / February 12, 2015
“Sinhalease should thank for Tamils for their support to MS …suppose if they have boycotted this election imagine what would have happened to you all ‘? Polpot MR and his Rabid GR would have buried more Sinhalese alive.”
On the contrary this would have happened to the Northern Tamils, Wigs and the TNA for the next 8 years 2 months
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCBWqJ0WOCU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNpzECALZBU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y84QZcPU3nY
Re “It is because of Sinhalese actions from 1956 – 1983 Tamils were compelled to take up arms and only with the help of 36 countries MR managed to silence them …not by SL forces… if you can’t still learn the lesson don’t blame others .Dont just dance for a borrowed military victory achieved ignoring all international laws ”
I believe you have forgotten the Indian Parippu drop that saved Prabahkaran’s head in 1987.
The rest of your history is just like the above
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Tony Francis / February 11, 2015
The Broken Covenant
My understading is that the “impregnable & invulnerable””unalterable
and entrenched” Section 29/(2) of the Solbury Constitution , which is
further entrenched by “unambiguous & clear assertion” in 29/(3)- where
Usha stands steadfast with Wakeley Paul- clearly places the responsibility on the ITAK for having let the illegal 1972 Constitution legal by default. If that be the case Usha’s tendering appology negates
the strength of her arguement.Be that it may,her presentation should enhance the thinking of the Britsh Tamil Organisations.
The Briish Tamil Organisations, ie British Tamil Forum,
Global Tamil Forum,British Tamil Conservatives, British Tamils for Labour, British Tamil Liberals and the TGTE should take this as a joint venture thro’ the APPGT to the British Government for a Referundum.
Perhaps this may be the opportune moment for such course of action.
Tony Francis
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Dr John Peterchild / February 11, 2015
Both Usha and Wakeley Paul are right in recounting the history of constitutional development. But we are where we are now, and the majority Sinhalese are not going to wind the clock back to the 1950s. As part of the inviolable bargain on offer to the country’s minorities at the time of granting of independence within a unitary constitution, it is incontrovertible that the main inspiration and father of the constitution, Lord Soulbury, with Lord Jennings and the British Colonial Office included Section 29(2) in the Soulbury constitution to protect and entrench minority rights, further safeguarded by Section 29(3).
But all of these constitutional safeguards were blown out of the water by the rabid jingoism of the Bandaranaikes and a piece of the legal opportunism by Dr Colvin R de Silva, a former parity of status politician. The minorities lost the right to seek independent legal redress when the Sinhala majority in parliament removed access to the UK Privy Council. After nearly 70 years of these extreme fanatical events and continuing pogroms against the Tamils to institute Sinhala rule, and after much gerrymandering with different autochthonous versions of the constitution, it is time to start again with a clean sheet to establish the rule of law in the country once again. I am sure that there are many reasonable Sinhalese who will join with the Tamils in setting up this democratic political exercise to draw the fangs out an issue that is keeping the country down.
If the country is to progress, there needs to be an agreement to conduct a plebiscite among all Sri Lankan Tamils to give them a choice to remain within a unitary Sri Lanka, or a Federal Sri Lanka or a separate Tamil state of Eelam. There will have to be negotiated agreements on borders, police controls, land controls and other matters that will have to be devolved. But given respect and goodwill, these are not beyond the wit of man. As has been cited, the Scottish referendum is a good model to start with, when all the arguments, debate and rancour were left behind at the polling booths. There was no violence at all.
The Tamil Diaspora is now well established in most of the developed countries of the world and we should
look to work together with Tamil expatriates in the UK, Canada, USA, Europe, Australia, India, Malaysia, South Africa etc to help make the case to the respective Foreign Offices and to the UN to have a UN conducted plebiscite.
The TGTE is one democratic organisation among many that can be used to advance the moral, intellectual and political case for the plebiscite.
Dr John Peterchild
11 Feb 2015
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Off the Cuff / February 12, 2015
Dear Dr John Peterchild ,
Re “The TGTE is one democratic organisation among many that can be used to advance the moral, intellectual and political case for the plebiscite”
Did you have a look at the TGTE website lately? If you had you would not have failed to notice the Eelam Map that they have.
If you haven’t please have a look at the map on these websites.
http://www.tgteparliament.com/
http://www.tgte-us.org/
http://tgte.org/
https://ta-in.facebook.com/tgte.uk
http://www.tgte-homeland.org/
That land claimed as Eelam is around 40% = 26,000 sq km
The claimed coastline is around 60% = 940 km
The EXCLUSIVE economic zone claimed is 60%
When the British came here Lanka had 85% forest cover. Hence it was uninhabited except by the Aborigines the Veddha.
The Tamil population in 1792 were indigenous to Lanka and numbered about 75,000 to 85,000 (worked backwards using British Census data)
If we go back to the time of the Tamil Kingdom that population would be much less.
Can you please explain how 75,000 – 80,000 people could occupy 26,000 sq km, produce their own food and other needs and defend a Porous Boundary of about 2,000 km against a hostile population more than 5 times bigger?
Obviously that claim to land is fraudulent.
The Dutch Govt says that they built a fort to protect the Dutch held Jaffna Kingdom from cross border attacks by the Armies of the Kandyan King (Sinhala Kingdom) at Elephant Pass. As you know very well Elephant Pass is where Peninsular Jaffna joins the Mainland of Lanka.
This is irrefutable proof that the WHOLE of the Eastern Seaboard of Lanka was under a Sinhala Kingdom.
http://www.atlasofmutualheritage.nl/en/location/?id=813
Hope you now realize what a bunch of thieves the TGTE is.
Land is at the core of problems in Sri Lanka. All the other stuff is a smoke screen to cover this Greed for Land.
Kind Regards,
OTC
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Javi. / February 13, 2015
Jewish child brains
Juan,john what is your consultation fee??
The irish model of justice & suicide bombings over does not entitle a Scottish model- the English owe much to the Scots for having defended the English Crown and returning it in tact. No where are the Villagers Jaguar Tiger (JT’s) entitled to that so early – it took the friendly Scots 200 years for a referendum. JT’s are different from the rest of Tamils who are blended silently and are repeatedly attacked by both due to JT bullying and murder. Fact – o- fact file.
The only time it was possible to contain was when ruled via Madras Presidency to 48.
See the value of passport – they are not competant at this moment in time and it is almost impossible negotiating because Terrorism is Profitable Business. Gratitude is Expensive. Look at the number of con-men produced starting with readers digest classic edition in the late 60’s to Scotland yard evidence. They are similar to west indies having killed and eaten the `Arawak` while here its Veddha country.
The British spin with Asoka the great (war criminal) than Chandra the Great who married (Chandra Gupta Maurya and Greek Princess, Helen – A Love Story-http://indiaopines.com/chandra-gupta-maurya-greek-princess-helen-love-story/)
and the partition caused much of the tale today- all for something- what is the consultation fee- life life kill kill the same way India was captured.
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Siva / February 11, 2015
Please note the so called Kandyan King (Sinhala Kingdom) was rule by a Dravidian King “Kannu Samy” (Sri Wicrama Rajasigha) from Tamil Nadu origin. Current Tamil Nadu was a single landmass with Thelungu (Nayakar Vamsam), Karnataka & Kerala (Cheera Nadu). Part of the Tamil Nadu was Vijaya Nagara emperor. Eg. “Nayakar” The great warrior “Kadda Pomman” of Panchalam Kurinchi who fought against British rule & current politician Vai Co (V.Copalasamy) are from same Nayakar tribe.
The last Kadyan King Sri Wicrama Rajasigha was betrayed by a “Sinhala patriot” and captured & killed by British. All the treaties he signed white rulers were in TAMIL as “Kannusamy” .The Blood stained cloths of the King still displayed in the Kandy Museum.
At the same period beyond the Elephant Pass “Wanni” was held by another Tamil warrior Pandaraha Vanniayn based in Mullaithivu and lost his crown at the battle field (Kattshilaimadu) against Whites.
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Paul / February 12, 2015
Please also note Siva, that you have omitted the most vital point – the four Nayakar kings became Buddhists and under them there was a renaissance of Buddhist culture.
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Native Vedda / February 12, 2015
Paul
“Nayakar kings became Buddhists and under them there was a renaissance of Buddhist culture.”
Nayakar also converted to Catholicism.
Sinhala kings also employed court priests (prohit) from Brahman caste who performed Hindu rituals.
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K.A Sumanasekera / February 12, 2015
There you go Native…
The Reverend, and Surendran should demand compensation from Cameron , even before any War Crimes Tribunals whether Local or International..
I mean this is an open and shut case.. Isn’t it.
Exhibit One in Kandy and the rest must in the British Museum.
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Off the Cuff / February 12, 2015
Dear Siva,
The Sinhalese is a mixed race.
They have Veddha and Tamil genes amongst others. But that Tamil genes are not contributed by Lanka Tamils. It comes from Indian Tamils.
The Sinhalese evolved in Lanka that’s why you don’t find a large concentration of Sinhalese anywhere else in the World. The Tamils evolved in India and the largest population of Tamils are found there.
We all know that Sri Vikrama Rajasinha (1780 – January 30, 1832, born Kannasamy Nayaka) was the last of four Kings, to rule the last Sinhalese monarchy of the Kingdom of Kandy in Sri Lanka. The Nayak Kings were Telugu Buddhists that spoke Tamil. (wiki) But he did not conquer it but was invited to the throne by the Sinhalese. Did the Lanka Tamils invite a Sinhalese to the throne of the Jaffna Tamil Kingdom at any time?
What you just attested to was the non Racist behavior of the Sinhalese.
Re “At the same period beyond the Elephant Pass “Wanni” was held by another Tamil warrior Pandaraha Vanniayn based in Mullaithivu and lost his crown at the battle field (Kattshilaimadu) against Whites”
There are somethings in history that you cannot change. Unless you bribe the Dutch govt, you will not be able to change this.
The Dutch Govt says that they built a fort to protect the Dutch held Jaffna Kingdom from cross border attacks by the Armies of the Kandyan King (Sinhala Kingdom) at Elephant Pass. As you know very well Elephant Pass is where Peninsular Jaffna joins the Mainland of Lanka.
This is irrefutable proof that the WHOLE of the Eastern Seaboard of Lanka was under a Sinhala Kingdom.
http://www.atlasofmutualheritage.nl/en/location/?id=813
Any more arguments?
Kind Regards,
OTC
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Anpu / February 12, 2015
OTC,
“This is irrefutable proof that the WHOLE of the Eastern Seaboard of Lanka was under a Sinhala Kingdom. http://www.atlasofmutualheritage.nl/en/location/?id=813“
Do you have any other evidence to prove this?
It looks like Dutch were confused with peninsula and the kingdom.
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Off the Cuff / February 12, 2015
Dear Anpu,
No other proof is needed because the Dutch is emphatic and has nothing to gain by making available a record of theirs dating back to the 17th Century to the world public.
The Dutch is not confused as they perfectly describes Elephant Pass and what it was used for, by the King of Kandy. Read what they say, I made the link public.
Extract
During the 17th century the Company was engaged in a war of attrition with the king of Kandy, who had close ties with Ceylon’s Buddhist population. There was a narrow tongue of land at Elephant Pass a fort was built to guard the border with the king’s territory. Elephants captured on Ceylon were herded past here to Jaffna to be sold in India, hence the name Elephant Pass.
End extract
You see Anpu they specifically call it the BORDER between the Kandyan Kingdom and their Territory which is the former Tamil Kingdom of Jaffna that they Ruled after they defeated the Portuguese.
Perhaps you are becoming confused as this evidence is independent of the Mahavamsa or any other chronicle. And you will look sheepish (to state it mildly) if you try to call it Mahavamsa Lies.
Kind Regards,
OTC
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Javi. / February 13, 2015
No other proof is needed because the Dutch is emphatic and has nothing to gain by making available a record of theirs dating back to the 17th Century to the world public.”2
don’t tell me about somebodies story book- they call his_story.
There are invoices references of VOC first multinational company in the world (the same principals are used even today for commerce by the west)
OTC Cockroach, Chuff Cuff Toot U hoot.
“”◕‿◕ “”
Modaaya, There was no Dutch Republic when they came To Ceylon from Indonesia.
The Roman emperor Born at Gent Flanders of Spanish Origin ruler of Spanish Netherlands had a Flemish mistress and she was part of (like English Tudor background) so the 5 ships for Philippines discovery was distributed (like south america was divided by the 2 Portugal and Spain) 2 ships were sent to Indonesia by V>O>C. Dutch the worlds first multinational cooperation for trading in `goods for aristocrats`.
The Roman emperor Carlos 1 was married to Spanish Queen ruling Northern Spain therefore his mistress- and her business sense created the 150 year VOC rule of the oceans – the fastest ships on earth made them the envy of 5 powers, English, French, German, Portuguese, (Spain religious quarrel)
The first battle with the English at China where VOC was the clear winner with fast ships. So they lost to multinational attack without a government backing as there was no dutch government but was in formation only.
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90% of all trading documentation VOC Madras Presidency is available with VOC Amsterdam and at Chennai.
Cochin and Colombo have less than 5% – most destroyed on purpose perhaps to fabricate identity by mercenaries who operated via Cochin for the Portuguese and others. Visit Amsterdam and inquire at VOC from the PhD boy dealing with Chennai.
You cna run but you cannot hide.
The Dancing Siva from Chola dynasty is at the EU space station listen to A Huxley description of God particle. where is Buddha, jesus Alla in the magic moon.- Rats live on no evil star!
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Javi. / February 14, 2015
Arent the two of you discussing a company called VOC not a crown nation??
Raj Rajaratanam swindle does not mean Sri Lankan Government is responsible- its just its part of his and Indian culture that caused the scandel.
200 years of VOC `east india dutch company`(south africa was west india company VOC)starting with the nutmeg saplig from Indonesia via the eastern coast unlike the others coming from west and south.
Romantic books of fiction as history of an unknown man (without crown authority- there was no crown either for Holland then )don’t represent artifacts and invoices.
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Anpu / February 12, 2015
OTC,
This proves what I said in my earlier comment.
“******The kingdom proper******, that is the Jaffna peninsula, was divided into various provinces with subdivisions of parrus meaning property or larger territorial units and ur or villages, the smallest unit, was administered on a hierarchical and regional basis.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaffna_kingdom
Kingdom extended beyond the peninsula.
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Off the Cuff / February 12, 2015
Dear Anpu,
Please re read my comment with care.
Your wiki quote does not prove anything. It was created on 15 Feb 2006 by a Canadian Tamil going by the Pseudonym Kanatonian. He has authored 80% of the article.
No one can counter this 17th century Dutch record unless you can prove that it is a FABRICATION by the Dutch.
What I said was that the WHOLE Eastern Seaboard of the Mainland was within the Sinhala Kingdom.
This will hence EXCLUDE the whole Eastern Province from any Exclusive Homeland Claim.
Please refer my comment to Dr John Peterchild of February 12, 2015 at 1:36 am and my comment to Usha of February 11, 2015 at 2:52 pm asking both of them to Justify the Claimed purported Historical Tamil Homeland.
I will be happy to discuss this with all of you. Hope you and they will engage.
Kind Regards,
OTC
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Anpu / February 13, 2015
OTC,
“within the Sinhala Kingdom”
You mean Kandy Kingdom ruled by a non Sinhalese where Tamils and Sinhalese lived.
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Off the Cuff / February 13, 2015
Yes, amongst others, such as Muslims, Kaffirs, Burghers, Malays, Veddhas etc.
Glad to see that you have finally agreed that the Tamil Kingdom EXCLUDED the WHOLE Eastern Seaboard of the mainland.
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Anpu / February 13, 2015
OTC,
This is what I wrote
“OTC, “within the Sinhala Kingdom” You mean Kandy Kingdom ruled by a non Sinhalese where Tamils and Sinhalese lived. “
This is your response
“Yes, amongst others, such as Muslims, Kaffirs, Burghers, Malays, Veddhas etc.
Glad to see that you have finally agreed that the Tamil Kingdom EXCLUDED the WHOLE Eastern Seaboard of the mainland.”
Please tell me where I said “the Tamil Kingdom EXCLUDED the WHOLE Eastern Seaboard of the mainland”
This is why we say OTC TWIST.
Thank you
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Off the Cuff / February 13, 2015
Anpu,
You were contesting my posts of
February 12, 2015 at 2:05 am
February 12, 2015 at 9:55 am
February 12, 2015 at 10:20 am
ALL of them dealt with the Dutch historical document dating back to the 17 th century.
Extract
During the 17th century the Company was engaged in a war of attrition with the king of Kandy, who had close ties with Ceylon’s Buddhist population. There was a narrow tongue of land at Elephant Pass a fort was built to guard the border with the king’s territory. Elephants captured on Ceylon were herded past here to Jaffna to be sold in India, hence the name Elephant Pass.
End extract
http://www.atlasofmutualheritage.nl/en/location/?id=813
.
Extract from my post February 12, 2015 at 10:20 am that you responded to,
This will hence EXCLUDE the whole Eastern Province from any Exclusive Homeland Claim.
End extract
Your response of February 13, 2015 at 12:27 am to the above AVOIDED the point you were contesting all along.
That was either because you agreed with me or could not contest what I was saying.
Either way you have thrown in the towel as you had no way of contesting the truth.
You tried to twist out from an inescapable trap that you got yourself into by drawing a Red Herring.
I did not allow you to slip away.
Kind Regards,
OTC
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Javi. / February 14, 2015
`This is why we say OTC TWIST.`
ʘʘ means Oblique Termite (Boa)_Constrictor.
He is what he is a boa-constrictor one who plays kaliya that wraps like the deadly python and devours its prey.
He is staggering smelling the distant coffee of rattons which alas is a mirage for both.
ʘʘ His weakness gastric- smell of raspberry & gas . Phew.
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Siva Sankaran Sarma / February 12, 2015
Clearly the Sinhalam have infiltrated the Dutch archives :D I’ll stick with history according to random Blogspot sites and Tamilnet :D
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Off the Cuff / February 13, 2015
Dear Siva,
There were Sinhala Kingdoms and a Tamil Kingdom in Lanka. At one time the whole country was a Sinhala Kingdom but at no time was the whole country a Tamil Kingdom.
A Nayakkar prince being INVITED to the throne of a Sinhala Kingdom does not make that Kingdom a Nayakkar Kingdom. It just underlines the NON RACIST outlook of the Sinhala due mainly to the Buddhist influence.
You say “The northern tip of SriLanka is merely 20 miles away from the Tamil Nadu, the land that served between the Tamil Nadu and the north of SriLanka was engulfed by the Indian Ocean, this was known as the Lemuria Kingdom, which would have essentially bridged the two Tamil areas which have now been separated by the sea which contradicts your view saying that Indian Tamils and SriLankan Tamils differ from one another”
Geographically, Lanka and India would have been joined by a land bridge between Mannar and Rameswaram as the Sea would have been much lower two millennia ago, than what it is today. The remnants of this land bridge is visible even today on Satellite imagery (please refer Google Earth)
Hence there is a distinct possibility of humans using the land bridge to come to Lanka. They could be anyone or more of the many races inhabiting the Indian subcontinent.
You have drawn me to a subject that I would have rather not discussed here. What I am going to write may disillusion you and might make many who believe in a PURE DRAVIDIAN ancestry of Lanka Tamils angry. But ALL of it is based on Scientific Genetic Studies and the observations made by the authors of those studies.
This is from the latest scientific study on the subject. It was published on the Internet on 7 November 2013. Unfortunately you have to pay to access it now.
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The report is accessible online at http://www.nature.com/jhg/journal/v59/n1/full/jhg2013112a.html
Mitochondrial DNA history of Sri Lankan ethnic people: their relations within the island and with the Indian subcontinental populations.
By Lanka Ranaweera, Supannee Kaewsutthi, Aung Win Tun, Hathaichanoke Boonyarit, Samerchai Poolsuwan and Patcharee Lertrit
1. Department of Biochemistry, Faculty of Medicine Siriraj Hospital, Mahidol University, Bangkok, Thailand
2. Faculty of Sociology and Anthropology, Thammasat University, PraChan, Bangkok, Thailand
Quote
The PCA is extended further to include various other ethnic populations from the Indian subcontinent (Supplementary Table S2) Figure 4. The result shown in Figure 5 accounted for 52.59% of the total variation. All the Sinhalese and Tamil subgroups intermingle well with the majority of the Indian subcontinental populations, forming a large genetic matrix.
Unquote
PCA = “Principal component analysis”
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However, Indian Tamils were separated from the rest of the Sri Lankan subgroups, except SU-Bam and SL-Ban, on the first PC axis. This is further strengthening of the hypothesis that Indian Tamils are genetically distinct from the rest of the Sri Lankan ethnic groups.
Unquote
Thus the following scientific inferences can be made
1. Indian Tamils of Lanka, Lanka Tamils and the Sinhalese have genetic connections to those from the Indian Subcontinent.
2. Indian Tamils of Lanka do not have a Genetic connection to Lanka Tamils
3. Sinhalese intermarry with Indian Tamils of Lanka
4. Lanka Tamils SHUN intermarriage with Indian Tamils of Lanka
Inference “2” is surprising because we know for certain that the Indian Origin Tamils of Lanka are from South India (or Tamil Nadu) and the Lanka Tamils claim that they too come from Tamil Nadu.
Where does the Lanka Tamils come from if they are not from Tamil Nadu?
Science says they are not.
Lanka Tamils could not have originated from South India. South Indian Tamils are not the Parent population of the Lanka Tamils.
Quote
“Interestingly, highest number of haplotype sharing was found between Vedda with Up-country Sinhalese and with Low-country Sinhalese. On the other hand, there was no haplotype sharing between the Vedda people with any of the Tamils”
Unquote
These inferences follow
5. Neither the Lanka Tamils or the Indian Origin Tamils have any direct genetic connection with the Veddha.
6. The Sinhalese have a direct genetic connection with the Veddha.
Thus we can see that the Veddha is ONE of the parent populations of the Sinhalese.
There is an older study done in 1995, twenty years ago, by Dr Kshatriya. It’s available in the wiki.
Dr Kshatriya says
The Bengalis, the Tamils, and the Veddahs are considered parental populations for the Sinhalese. The Bengali contribution is 25.41%, the Tamil (India) contribution is 69.86%, and the Veddah contribution is only 4.73%. Thus the Sinhalese have a predominantly Tamil (India) contribution followed by the Bengalis and the Veddahs.
By studying the Sri Lankan Tamils, one can see that the Sinhalese, the Bengalis, and the Indian Tamils can be considered ancestral populations. The contribution of the Sinhalese to the Sri Lankan Tamils is 55.20%. Similarly, the Bengali contribution is 28.17% and that of the Indian Tamils is 16.63%. The results indicate a predominant influence of the Sinhalese (who already have a high contribution from the Indian Tamils) and the Bengalis to a lesser extent.
Thus the Lanka Tamils may well be descendants of the Sinhalese who over time has adopted the Tamil Language due to the close contact with South Indian Tamils.
You say “At the same period beyond the Elephant Pass “Wanni” was held by another Tamil warrior Pandaraha Vanniayn based in Mullaithivu and lost his crown at the battle field (Kattshilaimadu) against Whites”
Siva you seem to be upset by the Dutch evidence that effectively counters the Separatist Tamil claim to the East.
If you are referring to the Portuguese as “WHITES” then when the Dutch conquered the Portuguese the Land that the Portuguese held would have come under the control of the Dutch.
But the Dutch did not control ANY land South of Elephant Pass because they specifically say and I quote “During the 17th century the Company was engaged in a war of attrition with the king of Kandy, who had close ties with Ceylon’s Buddhist population. There was a narrow tongue of land at Elephant Pass a fort was built to guard the BORDER with the king’s territory”
Please note the word BORDER.
The rest of your comment is irrelevant to the original claim that you made and was ignored.
Kind Regards,
OTC
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Anpu / February 13, 2015
[Edited out] Please write instead of posting web links – CT
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Anpu / February 13, 2015
Tamils home land (N&E) claim is based on the facts given in these links
http://www.srilankaguardian.org/2009/08/dutch-and-tamil-homeland.html
“Many of the contemporary journalistic, academic and judicial contributions on the Kandyan Kingdom exhibit a great deal of misunderstanding and incomprehension about the political and social institutions of the Kandyan state. It is taken for granted that it was a centralised state with an almost homogeneous Sinhalese population. The belief that the Kandyan monarch was the custodian exclusively of Buddhism and its institutions has gained ground partly owing to the labours of some mediocre historians who cannot extricate themselves from their service to the chauvinist ideal. There is a general tendency, as evident from contemporary writings, to project the Kandyan Kingdom as a Sinhala Buddhist nation state, and worse still are the attempts made to defend the arguments in support of the unitary state with selected facts of Kandyan history.”
Northern perspectives of the Tamil homeland
http://www.tamilcanadian.com/page.php?cat=437&id=2321&page=3 by Professor S. K. Sittramplam
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Siva Sankaran Sarma / February 13, 2015
Let’s see, what to believe, peer reviewed journal articles and contemporary historical records, or a blog post by a known Eelamist nutjob? Decisions decisions..
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Off the Cuff / February 13, 2015
Dear Anpu,
I hope you are prepared to defend what you have reproduced here.
Re “The belief that the Kandyan monarch was the custodian exclusively of Buddhism and its institutions has gained ground partly owing to the labours of some mediocre historians”
There is no such belief.
Instead the people who were mainly Buddhist took as the king amongst kings the sovereign who had the custody of the Tooth Relic.
The King of Kandy did not have the custody of the Tooth Relic always. It was with different kings in different places throughout history. Study your history before you reproduce the writings of idiots in an effort to counter the Dutch Historical record.
Extract
During the 17th century the Company was engaged in a war of attrition with the king of Kandy, who had close ties with Ceylon’s Buddhist population. There was a narrow tongue of land at Elephant Pass a fort was built to guard the border with the king’s territory. Elephants captured on Ceylon were herded past here to Jaffna to be sold in India, hence the name Elephant Pass.
End extract
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http://www.atlasofmutualheritage.nl/en/location/?id=813
You cannot get away from the fact that the BORDER between the Kandyan Kingdom and the Dutch ruled Tamil kingdom was at Elephant Pass.
Thus the WHOLE of the EASTERN SEABOARD of Mainland Lanka was OUTSIDE the Jaffna Tamil Kingdom.
Kind Regards,
OTC
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Siva Sankaran Sarma / February 12, 2015
Usha, was it you that claimed Lemuria/Gumarigantham/Adlanthis/Demezh Eezam were actual real places? Or was it another certifiable nutjob? There’s just so many of you to keep track of :D
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Ram / February 12, 2015
The Senator for the renamed LTTE (understandably based abroad now) now tells us that there was an agreement between the TNA and My3Sirisena. She pretended not to be in the loop prior to the election.
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Siva / February 12, 2015
Dear Paul and OTC,
I respect and appreciate your views, but coming from a Drivean heritage regardless of whether it is in the kingdom of Jaffna, Vanni, Kandy or Taml Nadu where the rulers all fought against the injustice of the alien rule, I need to clarify that the battle was fought till death and thus they never surrendered their sovereignty of the people.
However, the Kandiyan Kingdom fell into the enemy’s hand because of the betrayal of the Sinhalese ‘patriots’ (please name them), but what is paramount is that the Kandiyan Kingdom never surrendered at the battlefield but there is no recollection of this in the SL government ‘history books’.
This was repeated again in the recent past against IPKF or SL government oppression…
Buddhism thrived both in Tamil Nadu and in Jaffna during this era, even producing the great Mani Mehalai and Silapthiharm which are Tamil based literature about Buddhism. The Tamil culture embraced Buddhism, Hinduism and Samanam showing tolerance to all of the religions.
The Hindu king Theva Nambya Thesan became a Buddhist and that is how Buddhism was introduced into the Sri Lankan culture.
The northern tip of SriLanka is merely 20 miles away from the Tamil Nadu, the land that served between the Tamil Nadu and the north of SriLanka was engulfed by the Indian Ocean, this was known as the Lemuria Kingdom, which would have essentially bridged the two Tamil areas which have now been separated by the sea which contradicts your view saying that Indian Tamils and SriLankan Tamils differ from one another.
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Siva Sankaran Sarma / February 12, 2015
“Theva Nambya Thesan”
ROFL :D
“Lemuria Kingdom”
ROFLMAO :D
Oh dear lord. Is this what We Thamizh “history” in Sri Lanka has come to. A few years from now we’ll be hearing about King Saur Lingam who ruled the We Thamizh kingdom of Morthor :D
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kanga / February 12, 2015
Dear Mrs S
Hardly the heat of the elections have passed and you have begun your racial divide.Before you many spoke of this division. You are only stirring up a divide of the Sinhala and the Sinhala community hardly 30 days after Maithree came to power. The sober Tamil people wants to live in harmony with the rest.
State your demands openly and clearly if you want them addressed.
OTHERWISE you will vanish in to the back burner like all your racist predesessors.
For me you are the problem not the solution
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Javi. / February 12, 2015
she is a rotten dancing girl that seduced a judges son. now that he is dead and gone she is back into thailvar- hole in one company- canada to take note of her stupidity and terror drive.
You see the elected Canadian national (refugee woman)born in jaffna divorced the JT pulli and does not talk crap like her.
The canadians took up the issue because of their own heart patient who was deported and noting to do with villagers who may ask for tamil_istan in the land of refugees. see it get postphoned without a hum according Mauritius diplomat- Gulam of UP origin.
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