12 December, 2017

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The Need To Legalize ‘Underage Marriages’

By Muhammed Fazl

Muhammed Fazl

“When a woman has scholarly inclinations, there is usually something wrong with her sexuality” – Friedrich Nietzsche

The last time I attended a panel discussion on ‘Constitutional Reforms’ where feminist movements were seen ‘moving mountains’ to change divine laws governing Muslim marriages and inheritance among other changes to the Constitution, I couldn’t help but notice such organizations having a sizeable number of staff consisting of members of the LGBTQ community, divorcees, single women etc. While I am of the opinion that what we do define who we are, I sincerely hope my contribution towards addressing a key part of the Muslim Personal Law (MPL) would be taken into serious consideration by all concerned.

As usual, Islam and Muslims of Sri Lanka have come under attack once again. This time, the enemies and their collaborators seem to have adopted a more genteel approach in infringing the rights of Muslims in order to suppress the influence the faith of peace wields. It is said that ‘when India sneezes, Sri Lanka catches a cold’. Coincidence it is or a well-orchestrated stratagem by a devious third party to ‘address’ the issue of MPL simultaneously in both countries, I do not know. But ring an alarm bell it does in the minds of the local Muslim community when attempts are being made to single out the Islamic faith and its adherents by invalidating centuries-old and divine laws while more virulent and present-and-clear dangers to society are ignored.

Times have changed for worse no doubt. fourteen  years or eighteen, if a girl thinks it is her right and engages in a sexual relationship with the opposite sex, there is no further argument there…., ‘cos she is ready for marriage as well! The online activist that I am, to sum it all up, six months ago, I wrote the following on my personal Facebook page and that which was taken down since then by its administrators for reasons best known to them. Extracts of that post are as follows:-

“If a girl has reached the age of puberty, and if she is ready or willing to be married (and not coaxed into), no force on earth should have the power to act against her. End of the day, it is her life and her body. Feminist movements and rights organizations can scream as loud as they wish, but laws of nature does not pay no heed to their hypocrisy.

Living in an age where parents find it ‘cool’ allowing boyfriends to ‘pop the cherries’ of their teenage daughters’ (mostly in non-Muslim families), I somehow find it very hard to digest their hypocrisy when they oppose ‘underage’ (even if matured enough) girls wanting to get married to one man and have a family, secure life etc….

While my grandmother got married when she was 13 and had 11 healthy kids, my paternal aunt too got married when she was 13 and gave birth to 8 kids. They say age is just a number…. and it is. Needless to say, there exist kids aged between 14-16 who are much smarter than 18yr olds and who would even score a lot higher should they be tested for their IQ, general knowledge, common sense and their levels of maturity.

While education is necessary, if one is to take a good look at women with loose morals aka ‘harlots of Colombo’, he/she will see that most of them are highly educated and having come from broken families or having changed hands from one man to another when in search of emotional solace or sexual gratification. At the same time, teenage girls graduated from universities in Western countries do not seem to be fairing any better either when they are seen doing the rounds in social circles of Colombo in skimpy clothing and failing miserably in their quest for contentment, happiness and inner peace of life, and eliciting nothing but pity on themselves..

While the debate for changes to MPL rages on, one thing that should not be up for debate is the fact that no girl should be forced to or forced not to marry a man, not even by her own parents! Minimum age restrictions may limit sexual exploitation of the vulnerable to a certain extent, but in the same vein, wouldn’t it be a slap on the face of law when parents allow their teenage daughters to freely intermingle with boys of their age or older and often resulting in sexual relationships abortions and pregnancies? The hypocrisy of the ‘modern society’ is such that teenage daughters having half a dozen boyfriends (sexual partners) before they even turn 20 is considered ‘cool’ and acceptable, as against ‘hell breaking lose’ when a decent young girl under 18 years of age wants to be married and be happy. And it is not as if the so-called ‘champions of women’ causes would go out of the way to uplift the standard of living of a less fortunate young girl…, let alone help financially to sustain her or the family she belongs to. While I am no medical doctor, respect as well we must medical opinions should it go against marrying early. But then again, it would be exceptional cases”.

While I do not dispute the fact that Muslim Marriage and Divorce Act (MMDA) of 1951 needs to be rewritten, as long as it does not contravene the teachings of Islam, I believe it should be alright to accommodate requirements of the modern society that we live in. Having examined few clauses of the existing act, I would appreciate should knowledgeable individuals respond to the following:-

1 – While it is disappointing seeing local feminists and/or representatives in NGOs of Crusader countries misconstruing on public media the notion of girls not having reached the age of 18 to be as 12-year olds as if it is a rule, reflect does it not their true intentions, one of them being to demean Islamic laws and Muslims in general?

2 – As per the demands of feminist rights movements, if reaching 18 years of age is what it takes to be considered as ‘matured and ready for marriage’, would a girl who is only 17 years and 360 days old be considered ‘immature and NOT ready for marriage’? And if so, wouldn’t that be an insult to the intelligence of girls who are much younger than 18, but who could possibly be a lot more matured, educated and intelligent than some 25-year olds of the same sex? I mean who set reaching 18 years of age as the standard for one to be considered as ‘mature’ in the first place?

3 – If 13 years of secular schooling is what it takes for a girl to be considered as someone with a ‘sound mind’, would that be an indication of being educated enough to take correct decisions and make righteous judgements in life? And if so, wouldn’t that criteria make a mockery of this ‘13 years of schooling’, education etc. when the so-called ‘educated women’ end up being promiscuous or lead adulterous lives even when married in addition to having other anti-social habits in their latter years of their lives?

4 – Based on isolated incidents. If ‘underage marriages’ result in sexual and physical abuse of children as claimed by feminist rights movements hell-bent on ‘reforming’ MPL, would marrying once they reach the ‘age of consent’ help them find the perfect life, married or otherwise for certain? To throw a challenge, if these feminist movements can list X number of cases of abuse resulting from ‘underage marriages’, I probably could prepare a bigger list (many times the X number) of women who got married long after the suggested 18-year threshold and who now literally live a ‘life of hell’!

The point I try making here is, instead of burying our heads in the sand highlighting the age factor alone, the focus should be on the abuse itself. And to educate the ignorant, statistics also reveal that, countries championing causes in favor of minimum age laws having the highest divorce rates of more than 50%…. not to mention a considerable percentage from the other half having adulterous relationships with co-workers and friends while remaining ‘married’.

5 – As claimed by feminist rights movements, if physical and sexual abuse of minors are a problem in countries where no minimum-age requirement laws for marriages are strictly implemented, does it not the following report prove them feminists organizations wrong and expose their devious and manipulating ways? And ironic is it not when countries that champion laws governing minimum age requirements happens to be among top on the list of countries with the highest cases of physical and sexual abuse of women and teenage girls as against statistics of Islamic countries where girls marry young?

6 – Contradict themselves do they not when the Zionist/Christian West falsely claims to be liberating women from an ‘oppressive’ culture/religion, suppresses rights of Muslims for exercising the right of their women for choosing their attire when in public? In the same vein, attempts of the so-called ‘reformist’ feminist rights movements here in Sri Lanka the same when they force their agenda on an unsuspecting community quite content with their religion and their traditions?

I am indeed impressed by the ability of the West to instill ‘values’ that determine the wrongs and rights in the minds of the ‘Westernized’ but ignorant Muslim population of Sri Lanka. If modern day fathers cannot fathom the fact their daughters will be deflowered at some stage in their teenage years, they might as well restrict their daughters from having any kind of contacts with the opposite sex. If a daughter who is just 14 years old is considered as a mere ‘baby’ to parents, does she ceases to be such when she turns 18? I guess it does only when we allow elements in the West and their ‘foot soldiers’ here at home to ‘brainwash’ us into thinking in those lines. Times have changed and so have attitudes towards life and sex in the minds of the young. If marrying an ‘underage’ girl raises the question of possible sexual abuse, let us also criminalize the act of sex between teenagers and jail half of International school-going kids in Colombo for engaging in such!

The body and life of a girl/woman is hers alone. Eighteen or not, girls should be able to decide on whom to marry and when to marry. And if one has not reached the age of 18, to strike a compromise, her case should be addressed by a respectable judge on an individual basis and on its own merit. When it comes to matters of love, life and happiness, ‘one-size-fits-all’ approaches should be discouraged. As much as we the right-thinking, lobbyists and policy makers are against forced and child marriages, we should also be careful enough not to enforce ourselves and prevent a holy matrimony from taking place. As long as the bride has attained the age of sexual maturity and if she is mentally and physically strong enough to embark on a long journey, what right should an unrelated third party have in preventing the same girl from entering into a union that provides her with love, sustenance and security among others? And what if the couple intending to get married are ‘soul mates’ and meant for each other? Not to mention the economic situation of the girl and her family…. Or should we be promoting the prevailing promiscuous culture amongst teens in the West right here in Sri Lanka by delaying their chances for marriage? And while at it, making it a lot easier for teenage girls to experience and enjoy sex with as many partners before the thought of marriage even cross their minds?

I mean are we so blind to realities in life that we fail to acknowledge the fact that promiscuity and debauchery at early stages in life contributing to break down of marriages and loss of family values often resulting in increased levels of crime as an addition?

Let’s admit it…. Muslims and Islam are the real targets here for this ‘reforms’ to MPL. It is my firm belief that the Zionist/Crusader West is on an ‘unholy’ mission to castigate the Prophet of Islam in a negative light and to make him look a ‘pedophile’ in the eyes of millions of unsuspecting masses for his marriage to his very young wife Aisha (may Allah be pleased with her). The fact is, as it was customary those days to marry young, the Prophet of Islam consummated the marriage ONLY AFTER his young bride attained age.  While the following link enlightens us of the ‘age of consent’ in both past and present times, I believe the world needs to stop the use of words such as ‘Pedophilia’ and ‘Child Marriages’ irresponsibly, and to stop using them as weapons to fulfil their ulterior motives when they are blind themselves to realities in life and lack the resolve to move ahead.

There is never a day where we don’t read about incidents of teachers having sex with their young students in Western countries…. Not to mention it being considered an extreme rare case not being able to find a 14-year old virgin among school-going kids in those same countries. In this context, why are we making a mountain out of a molehill here? And if sex with multiple partners is good and an acceptable norm when 13-17 year olds engage in it, WHY NOT marriage with just one man while being provided with a sense of security, love and all good things that come along with it?

If the welfare of children in general is of utmost importance to those striving to change MPL, why not start with Buddhist temples in Sri Lanka where I believe 99% of them tiny ‘monks’ who are no more than 6 years of age and who are sexually abused on a daily basis by seniors wearing robes of a monk and claiming to be monks? It is not right for those little boys to be ‘caged’ with unrelated male strangers who apparently and outwardly claim to live a life of celibacy…. and devoid of women! I mean, how hard is it for one to figure out what really goes behind those walls? Little boys being ‘spiritual’ and gaining knowledge about Buddha’s teachings when they should be having a normal childhood and an upbringing? I mean is this a bad joke that nobody takes notice no more? Surely, instead of being stuck with isolated cases of abuse resulting from ‘child marriages’ numbering not more than a dozen, shouldn’t the government and children’s rights movements be cracking down hard on temples and cracking down NOW?

To allay any misconceptions about the title of this article, legalizing ‘underage’ marriages is NOT necessarily to enforce the practice as a norm, but to allow girls in certain situations to exercise their right to a decent life should that option be in their best interests. And in the event the government goes ahead with making changes before having proper consultations with representatives of all concerned Muslim and Islamic religious organizations, I fear the inevitability of extremist forces amongst the Muslim population declaring a semi-war on the government.

It is 15:35 in Colombo and even though the old saying – “after 12, it is lunch time” comes to my mind, just as I delay experiencing all that is beautiful till the times of sunset when calmness reigns at around 18 hundred hours, I would expect the same patience or more for all stakeholders to exercise before they rush into taking drastic decisions that one day our future generations could hold us accountable for.

*Editor’s note: The Colombo Telegraph does not hold any or all of the views of the writer of this essay. Prior to publication the editorial board pondered on the contents of the essay. We felt the essay was representative of the mindset of many Muslim males. We believe that this essay by an English speaker would be reflective of a deep rooted regression among the community.

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  • 27
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    Girls (and boys) should be able to decide when they are ready to have consensual sex only after being given a proper education on consent, healthy relationships and sexual health. marriage is legally binding and no persons under at least the age of 18 should be able to legally bind themselves in situations they do not have enough education, life experience or exposure to grasp..
    If a girl is so adament on getting married at 14, why not stipulate that she be educated on her rights, both human and sexual and then let her decide when she reaches 18, unless there’s concern that she will change her mind once she realizes the gravity of the situation and her rights as a human being and her reduced rights as a married woman..

    This author clearly has an agenda since he has written so prolifically on many occasions as to how women should behave and demonized women educated on their rights as “westernized, all while claiming to say that everyone else should wake up to the 21st century. please give Sri Lankan women the credit they deserve and have earned in standing up for their own rights without so called “western” influence.. we realized how suppressed we are on our own -.-

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    Having children at very young age make women age prematurely. That’s why Muslim women Look older than non-Muslim women.

    The Other thin is , Western countries talk a lot about Muslim barbaric practice of Muslim female g*****l mutilation (FGM). How common is this practice amongst Sri Lankan Muslim females? How many Sri Lankan Muslim males have 4 wives or at least 2 wives?

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      John..
      There is no such thing as Female gentile mutilation in Islam. Thats a cultural practice among middle Eastern and African cultures often where majority of Muslims live.
      Secondly.. the reason men were given the chance of marrying more that 1 wife was brought in after a war that took place at that time where women were completely dependent on men to survive. After the war women were widowed and kids were orphaned and survival was impossible as they were unable to fend for themselves. And even to marry in that way there are so many conditions to be fulfilled such as the man should be able to financially, emotionally physically etc take care of the wives equally with love and kindness. And they can marry widows, divorcees and women who were orphaned or unable to take care of themselves. But this more than one wife thing is not relevant to this time and age where women are independent, educated and able to take care of themselves and has the choice to marry someone of their choice even being a widow or divorcee as its now not a taboo for a man to marry a divorcee or widow even being single.

  • 59
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    My 6 year old wants to get married and have a baby too. Im so glad she was not born to you mr.fazi or we would see you marrying her off too. Age is only a number? What a pathetic piece if writing

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      Are you sure Fazl is not the father? if the child has those tendencies

  • 41
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    All religions need to be brought under a common law of the country. No religion should be above the law of the country.

    Even 18 years is also too young in my opinion for a girl to be married. So what is the role of women stay at home and produce babies. If this was implemented half our population (women) would be uneducated domestic slaves.

    You do make a valid point that uneducated females make good obedient wife who are afraid to question as they have no option of leaving an abusive/alcoholic or cheating husband no matter unhappy they may be. What choice do they have trapped by their lack of education and their religion (destined to suffer).

    Girls below this age are still not mature to understand reality but only forced to accept their destiny with religion as an enforcer.

    This is no different from child soldiers great recruits as they are easily brainwashed for sacrifice.

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      Why not marry them off when they go out of production so that we can keep the Buddhist population intact

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    Under what stone is this writer living in? His grandmother may have been given in marriage at 13 years, but at that time things were far different, girls were not educated, were helpless, and were a burden to their parents, so giving them in marriage at that age, although not ideal, was the norm.

    Now we have wonderful, educated girls, who strive to have fulfilling careers,and no burden to their parents, in fact some of them take care of them. No child should be “forced” into marriage, and we all know little girls are immature, are innocent, and their bodies are not ready for marriage, and children. No man would want his little girl given to a mature man, and that she must endure intimacy and what will be in her mind physical pain, that a child is unable to understand and comprehend, How can anyone expose a child to this? It is child abuse.
    The government must change these laws, make the marriageable age for all girls at least 18 years.
    The writer states:
    “Needless to say, there exist kids aged between 14-16 who are much smarter than 18yr olds and who would even score a lot higher should they be tested for their IQ, general knowledge, common sense and their levels of maturity.” What kind of ignorance prompts a man to state this idiotic statement? No physician will agree that despite a child being “mature”in mind, that her body is ready to face the physical side of marriage. It is considered rape by the rest of the civilized world.
    Education does not lead to women being “loose” that will be bad upbringing and no guidance from the parents. Many young ladies have a wonderful education, and have behaved with good morals. I have no idea from where this writer gets this idea, and is generalizing the behavior of educated girls. Most probably the women in his life are uneducated, and obedient, and given in marriage too early.
    Perhaps he should join the taliban. He is in Sri Lanka, and it is a multi-religious community,and all our young children, especially girls, must be taken care of, follow the same laws for marriage, and be safeguarded until they are of marriageable age, not given in marriage to be raped and produce children while she is a child herself. Educate the girls, like the boys, and let them find their way in life. Let them be learn to be financially independent, and if the man they marry abuses, or treats them badly, they should be able to leave him, and able to take care of herself.

  • 28
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    OMG!! I could’t even read through the whole article without chocking up with disgusts!! Firstly
    YES whichever age it is its a woman’s right to marry who she wants and at the age she wants ON HER FREE WILL WITHOUT BEING FORCED into marriage. Islam stresses on the fact that women have to give consent wholeheartedly for the marriage to be valid.. however the MMDA-SL requires only the father/Wali(guardian) of the girl to sign on behalf of her! Where is her consent there??
    Secondly talking about legalizing child marriages in comparison to teenage relationships.. teenage relationships often happen at that age and its in individual parents hands to guide their child in the right path. Let alone no teenager with the right state of mind is going to even look at a man as old to have a relationship!!
    In most cases 12/13 years are given in marriage to 25/30 year old men. legalizing this would be giving pedophiles an open invitation to abuse in the name of child marriages. Yes even after getting married at the age of 18 some marriages end up in divorce. That is because women of that age are mature enough to know whats right or wrong for them and can decide whether to be in a marriage or not! But when a child is given in marriage at a young age they have to live with it and suffer the abuse and injustice happening to them because they dont know anything better because they grow up with it and it ends up in a vicious cycle. They are not given justice because they are ‘legally married’. The psychological, physical and sexual abuse they endure is ignored and they are forced to suffer in silence in the name of family honor!
    I am a practicing Muslim woman with two daughters myself. If anyone touches my girls inappropriately let alone look at them inappropriately ill bring down hell on earth. There is no freaking way will i support legalizing child marriages that gives pedophiles the right to abuse!!
    The author has brought up the marriage of Aisha (RA) the prophet (PBUH) in support of child marriages. That marriage happened at a time where child marriage was a norm in that time and day all over the world (do your research!). That marriage happened to state that the woman should attain the age of puberty (being the minimum age) to be given in marriage as before that children even young as 6/8 were given in marriage. It states that women should have attained puberty to even consider marriage and have the maturity to be someones wife and handle a home. Aisha(RA) was very mature for her age and had great wisdom beyond her age. Men tend to take that as a flat rule thinking its ok for any woman mature or not to get married. Some children at 12 have the maturity like Malala yafuzi for example who are able to speak up .. but there are plenty of girls out there are still playing with dolls at that age. And in this time and age where both husband and wife need to take equal shares in running the home i doubt a 12 year old is capable of taking that much of burden on their shoulders. This authors view is beyond ridiculous as he is trying to justify phedophilea by considering legalizing child marriages and bringing irrelevant topics such as adultery and fornication into this where as that is another topic on its own and how can child marriages be connected to that! sigh*

    • 8
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      Rights of Children

      Salaam Alekum Fatima! Oh My My! This is probably the longest comment you have written. It shows a lot of emotion and indicative of how important this issue is to you. Please be assured of the support of people like me, who consider the rights of adults, children and even animals very important. We stand behind you in this effort.

      May I suggest a solution to this problem. The Author says: “If a girl has reached the age of puberty, and if she is ready or willing to be married (and not coaxed into), no force on earth should have the power to act against her” and the solution is to use it and apply what he says more widely.

      May I suggest the following amendment: “If a girl has reached the age of puberty (you may change this to 18 years of age), and if she is ready or willing (and not coaxed into) CHANGING HER FAITH, no force on earth should have the power to act against her.

      I THINK THAT WILL DO THE TRICK.
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        Edwin,

        Please Please…. don’t offer your -most oppressive, most regressive most coercive- support to any lady in this site and chase them from writing their opinion. Please go to Indonesia or Middle East and offer there. It is like a Butcher in the daytime trade is preaching Pasu Vathai in the evening temple get-together.

        There nothing in age 18 is common for everybody. But that is only a stage for law to start organizes their life with others in the community. Of cause, even after 18, courts are willing to consider individual’s physical and mental capacity, as per the circumstances to make a binding legal decision.

        Medical matter is for medical professionals and they have their part in consulting formulating the laws in advanced societies. At Prophet Mohamed time the man had not learned even to extract aspirin from (willow-1768) tree bark. Standing off that Mohammed did know the entire advanced science this day and the future days to come is stupidity of Fazi. Biologically human body goes through many changes during their entire life. Growth and changes are normal and the world has evolved to hope with it. Still human has to further to understand childhood and senility more to better their life more worthwhile. The stomach learns to digest different foods as it grows. Physical fitness comes in at various levels of the stages. 18 month Child just started to walk doesn’t get allowed in Marathon race. The Language skills start to appear too, somewhat around that stage. So the universities cannot admit the child to a Literacy PhD. Muslim men of Lankawe, like Mohammed Fazi and you Child Edwin, are still under 9. You guys have your opinion but, thatr words cannot be evaluated equally with other adults.

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          One Man = Five Ladies

          Fatima, having read your comment “Please — blah blah –support to any lady in this site and chase them from writing their opinion”, I feel that Eleanor Roosevelt was correct when she said : “A woman is like a tea bag – you can’t tell how strong she is until you put her in hot water ” or in my experience simply ‘drop her’.

          I cannot understand your attitude. But then as Oscar Wilde said “Women are made to be loved, not understood” . It is very difficult to see through women, but that does not bother me, because, anyone who can see through women is missing a lot. (Groucho Marx) and I hate missing even a little of such beautiful things.

          You tell me, “Please go to Indonesia or Middle East and offer there. It is like a Butcher in the daytime trade is preaching Pasu Vathai in the evening temple get-together”. I don’t understand all of that, but then show me a man who says that he understands what a woman says fully and I will show you a big liar.

          Anyway, if by all that you are saying ‘Go to Hell’, let me assure I am already there. Does that make you happy? I work in the Middle East and here I learnt that according Islam, one man is equal to five women. Even in the case of a simple thing like the moon sighting during Ramadhan, they need 5 to concur if they were women and ONLY ONE if it is a man. So try to get 5 women to agree with you as to what I should do and I will do it.

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      Fathima, I think the author of this article is either off his head or trying to troll by being a devil’s advocate. My point of concern is citing puberty as a benchmark..in my youth, girls in my class were coming of age at around 13 years…this is obviously too young to consider or be subjected to adult physical relationships…more alarmingly, girls in my sons classes are now coming of age as young as 9 years….does the author believe that the yardstick for marriage is now 9 years?

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    Kamasutra’s by product. Learn what is Sama sutra.

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    Sir – you neither know Islam nor the topic of which you have chosen to write about. You would do your yourself and the world greater justice but keeping your thoughts to yourself.

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      What’s wrong with Fazl’s writing he is talking straight facts other than bringing the Buddhist temples in to this. He does talk about the Muslim madrasas that abuse their abitas much more than Buddhist monks. At least the Buddhist monks have access to a few women who may comply, but women are taboo in the madrasas so, it is worse for the little lebbe’s

  • 21
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    Nice foot note from the Editor board. If the Editor Board has read any of his previous writing they will know he is an opinionated eccentric individual. To say his views represent the majority male muslim view is a demented assertion by the Editor Board. I am sure Muslims don’t need the Colombo Telegraph editor board or this hoodlum to tell about what they should think. Child marriages should stop. Criminalise it. Muslims dont have any issue. The issue is the guys who say represent muslims are Rauf Hakeema and Rishard Bathudeen. They are self serving opportunistic politicians. And the so called scholars of Islam in Sri Lanka (like the Jamiyathul Ulama) are the laggards in the society whose solace for survival is the mosque and the religion. Rescind the Muslim laws all Sri Lankan’s abide by one Common Law that is the Sri Lankan law.

  • 10
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    The contents are so absurd that one may think that it was just to provoke Islamic fundamentalists.

    Muhammed Fazl: “………… my grandmother got married when she was 13 and had 11 healthy kids, my paternal aunt too got married when she was 13 and gave birth to 8 kids……….. “
    The grandmother and aunt never had childhood and probably never knew this. Both never heard about family planning.

    Muhammed Fazl again: “………… They say age is just a number…. and it is ……….. ” Fazl will never mature.

    Will one of the Lankan Muslim MPs please respond? Or are they just older Fazls?

  • 21
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    Mentally ill. Must be a closet pedophile. Sick.

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    I’m a practicing Muslim woman, happily married and a mother of two adult children, Alhamdulillah. I have the right to tell you, that you Fazl have no right to be the voice for Muslims- let alone Muslim women. You’re a pompous, self righteous goat who Is an attention seeker, through any means. Shame on you!

  • 11
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    The article is clearly written by a sexual deviant. His comments and arguments are senseless and baseless. The writer clearly has an agenda of his own and is selfish and mentally unstable judging by this article. Of course each individual has the right to decide thier own fate but a child is a child and a child has no intellectual or emotional maturity to make such decions on his/her own. Some children showing a greater level of maturity than others is a highly subjective thing and that is not a reason to suggest that a child is capable of making such life altering decisions. Merely suggesting such thought is downright ridiculous!!! These comments are deragotory of all women. The administrators should be ashamed for allowing such deviants to voice such socially harmless thoughts.

  • 8
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    Muhammed Fazl,

    Thanks very much for this article of iconoclastic of children’s and women’s right, because this article itself had to greater extend emphasized the need of changing the Muslim Personal Law in Sri Lanka, as that of Universally acceptable humanitarian concerns.

    A human being shall reflect a human by living before deciding on faith,
    fist you are born a human, then you are baptized to be Islam!

    If you reply me that you born an Islamic, then where is your identity as human being? Mr. Muhammed Fazl,

    Are you Sri Lankan, I doubt it strongly even that!

  • 8
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    18 is the age that you are legally an adult. Or if we abide by this writer’s logic, kids below 18 should be able to vote, own properties etc… and child soldiers would be legal too. Would you let a 13 year old run a company simply because he says he wants to? How retarded.

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    Colombo Telegraph, are you aware that you are supporting pedophilia by publishing this kind of repulsive content? And after so many offensive pieces by the same individual, you continue to publish his demented fantasies? I am embarassed FOR you.

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    I read it with revulsion that increased as I proceeded. I regained composure only when I read the editorial caveat. CT should be congratulated for its decision to let the writer air his views. At least we know what kind of a beast lurks under pseudo piety.
    There is a place called factory out in Colombo selling ladies clothes. You can see a girl wearing a black burka happily assisting customers to buy see through lingerie !
    Primitive Islamic practices of nomadic tribes of Arabia have no place in modern society.

    Prince Siddhartha left home and hearth and their is no record of princess Yasodhara claiming maintenance. Does it nullify civil laws applicable on spousal obligations?
    The Mogul Emperor Akbar was far more progressive than the present aberrations in power in Saudi Arabia. .

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    “If she is ready or willing to”.
    Such a pathetic soul he is. I feel sorry for you mister. Would you let your 5year old kid to go to the candy store to get some candy all by himself simply because “he or she is ready or willlling to”?
    Are you saying that a girl is reafy for marriage as soon as she hits puberty?
    One word for this – “Pedophilia”

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    I think this guy gets published just to drive traffic to this shitty website. There’s no way anyone sane is going to read more than a sentence of his nonsense. pau wade. I just read the title and thought how silly he is. xD hahah! guys, chill. every so often this man gets bored of his pedophilic fantasies and wants someone to pay attention to his sad life, and so he writes crap and our sweet friends at the Colombo Telegraph are probably benefiting from this. Don’t bother with reading his shit and getting yourself hustled.

    To whatever “Editorial” panel at ColomboTelegraph,
    1) “We felt the essay was representative of the mindset of many Muslim males.” ?!?!!!? Can we please have a few sensible Muslim males comment here saying that, that is not so. All men aren’t deranged to this level.

    2) “We believe that this essay by an English speaker would be reflective of a deep rooted regression among the community.” Cute. -_- Just cuz his English is good, doesn’t make what he say a “reflection of a deep rooted regression among a community”.

    3) I believe in God and Karma (not really – but the fact that bad things happen to bad people, and all religions say that) and I hope, no pray that something really really bad happens to you. And when it does, I hope these articles just rerun inside your head like a broken record and that you will be stuck in a hellish infinity forever. And in this hellish infinity, you should be born as young girls being forcefully “married” repeatedly.

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      Nadeesha:

      Remember this is a Christian web site run by christians.

      They love when buddhists and muslim get bashed.

      Jesus said if one hit you on this side of thace, give the other side too. church pastor says in the name of the GOD empty your pocket. .

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    My 15 year old Son can drive a car. He is sick of driving with an ‘L’ board and under supervision at all times, so he wants a driving licence that would allow him to go solo. I wonder if the Commissioner of Motor Traffic would bend the rules a bit and grant him a Driving Licence? After all, age is only a number!

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      Shows you are an estate labourer if you allow you son to drive even under supervision and with an L board at 15. The law clearly states that you should be 17 years to get your provisional licence that would allow you to drive with an L board and under supervision. You being an Estate Labourer know very well what happens to your little girls even before puberty. The Periya Dorai starts and handed down to the Kankani. They get pregnant at 14 or 15 and try out all kinds of abortion tactics. There are plenty of quacks in your areas who specialize in home abortions. So, get real. Dont let them get Fu….ed so early in life

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        I don’t have any daughters.

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    This is purely polemical and not looking at the context in which the campaign for reform has risen.

    I have not read the comments section, for I fear that they’d be full of anti_muslim stuff; I hope 1. somebody puts some good common sense into this person, and make him engage with the issues in their fulness.\

    What is the need for reform?
    What is the campaign.
    What is the context in other words.

    Instead of that he’s name calling and engaging in meaningless polemical exchange.

    I wish CT would not publish ANYTHING that comes its way.

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    fahim- define pedophilia . u must be stupid not to understand, what the writer has said.

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      Jehan:

      Mohommad’s marriage to Aisha is pedophilia.

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    Not many women wish to marry at 13 and have 11 kids, like the author’s grandmother. That is equivalent to 10 years of one’s life, just being pregnant. From the point of view of the larger society, what kind of resources will be necessary to sustain a large family like this?

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      Shows you are an estate labourer if you allow you son to drive even under supervision and with an L board at 15. The law clearly states that you should be 17 years to get your provisional licence that would allow you to drive with an L board and under supervision. You being an Estate Labourer know very well what happens to your little girls even before puberty. The Periya Dorai starts and handed down to the Kankani. They get pregnant at 14 or 15 and try out all kinds of abortion tactics. There are plenty of quacks in your areas who specialize in home abortions. So, get real. Dont let them get Fu….ed so early in life

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      I guessed the slavery is not yet abolished for Muslim women in Sri Lanka!
      They have no use other than baby making machines!

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        Not only Muslim women in Sri Lanka. Everywhere. Even in the West, they do “honor killings” if the woman tries to escape. It is legalized slavery in the 21st century.

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    Muhammed Fazl has diabolical cunning, so he sets traps for us!

    Marriage is for life – even if divorce is possible. As things stand in Sri Lanka today (I don’t pretend to be an Islamic scholar) it is difficult for a woman to get a divorce, and thereafter face the consequences (which I don’t intend to elaborate). I oppose child marriage for any person living in this country, because we can enforce it, but I will NEVER turn in to a COMMUNALIST or an Islamaphobe who seeks to damage the Muslim population of our country.

    Teen sex is a totally different matter. Fazl is trying to push us in to a position where we can be made to SEEM proponents of laxity in sexual conduct. I won’t take a strong line against teen pre-marital sex, NOT because I approve of it, but because I don’t want to interfere or be dogmatic. Hopefully this is a passing phase in the lives of these children, and I’m not interfering! However, I’d be very concerned if there was sex involving a child, and somebody twice or thrice the age of that child. That is paedophilia and requires the most stringent preventative laws! Marriage of persons under 18 must NOT be allowed.

    Yes, let me state this clearly: Marriage is one thing. Sex (including all LGBT issues) are another thing. Muhammed Fazl is trying to use our insistence on the right of Muslim children to stay single up to the age of 18 (even if they foolishly, themselves, let words which are different escape their mouths) to make out that we are supporters of what still is considered “abnormal sex” – i.e LGBT etc. I don’t support all that. I’ve decided that it is none of my business, but I DO think that advocates of such things ought to adopt a lower profile.

    I’m glad that so many Muslims have spoken out against Fazl – or so it seems to me. I’m not spending too much time on this blog; but I did try to think out good responses to articles advocating reform of MMDA.

    There is a dangerous strand of Islam which we cannot be blind to. See this:

    http://www.vox.com/world/2017/3/17/14959032/erdogan-turkey-europe-immigration

    That, mind you, is the President of Turkey setting forth an agenda that is morally repugnant. That is why I am disgusted with it.

    Having given that link above, I urge all readers to click on it. It is truly shocking. Statements of this sort are what makes it difficult for us to whittle away the support that Gandasara is able to garner.

    Just as I see it as our responsibility to keep Gandasara under control, so it is the responsibility of Muslims to ensure that the mouths of Muhammed Fazl and Erdogan are shut, I almost am tempted to say “using whatever means are available”. These three people are evil.

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    Made in Sri Lanka, No wonder!
    How about 7 brides and 40 virgins?

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      srinathan gunaratnam

      “How about 7 brides and 40 virgins?”

      Are you planning to convert to Islam?

      You will make your young neighbours the luckiest and happiest.

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    If the welfare of children in general is of utmost importance to those striving to change MPL, why not start with Buddhist temples in Sri Lanka where I believe 99% of them tiny ‘monks’ who are no more than 6 years of age and who are sexually abused on a daily basis by seniors wearing robes of a monk and claiming to be monks?

    You are right on one thing, This is where we must start!

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      This in fact a very good idea. The only way to convince Moslems that this is not an anti-moslem law is to bring in a general child protection act which enforces a minimum age of marriage upon all communities while at the same time banning the ordination of buddhist monks (by their parents) before the age of 18.

      We need to kill both birds with this one stone.

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        There is a big difference here. The monks are provided education, looked after and most importantly can leave the monetary on their own accord.

        In fact a lot of people abuse the system to educate themselves and benefit and then leave without contributing anything back.

        As for marrying underage girls, once they are married off there is no exit clause. They are deprived (death penalty) of even converting out of their religion. Basically F***ed for life.

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    Author say, “The fact is, as it was customary those days to marry young, the Prophet of Islam consummated the marriage ONLY AFTER his young bride attained age”. 

    Isn’t this what Rajitha’s son doing and everyone hates him for that. Not fair!

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    Ok, we must thank this writer for his brutal honesty.. Now government and rest of the country can get a fair idea what we are dealing with!! No false pretences or civility.. No false pretences of unity.. This is true face of radical Islam, and it can now be dealt with for what it is..

    Also, special thanks go to editors for publishing it uncensored, so that we can see the real face of Muslim males unabridged.. I hope other men in the country are men too, and therefore will have right response.. Real men do not tolerate insults to women!!

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    I LOL’d that this pedophile tried to justify his depraved opinion piece by quoting Friedrich Nietzsche at the beginning of the article. Looked like he just googled for a quote that was against women and women’s education, and plonked this quote in there. Doubtful that this pedophile knows that Friedrich Nietzsche was against religion and the concept of God and was also considered a psychopath during latter part of his life. So why quote a man who was against religion and a nut, to justify your religious and depraved cravings for underage girl marriages!

    CT, you have clearly gone to the dogs. You are becoming like a TMZ for gossip and shitty content. Your brand is dying if you only care about clicks to your website and not the content you curate/post.

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      ballah

      You do not have to comment here if you want to legally practice Pedophilia, convert to medieval Arab Islam or remain in Sri Lanka.

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