27 November, 2020

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‘Two Nation’ Claim By Chief Minister Wigneswaran

By Dayan Jayatilleka

Dr. Dayan Jayatilleka

Dr. Dayan Jayatilleka

It is my humble view Sir, if we are to progress as one Country with two nations…”  – (‘Your Excellency Our President, We Need One Country With Two Nations’- CV Wigneswaran, Colombo Telegraph, March 3, 2015)

It became known as the Two Nation theory. That was the basis on which Jinnah fought for and obtained the partition of India and Pakistan, with all the carnage that entailed. The two nation theory thus became a dirty word in neighboring India.

Chief Minister CV (“Genocide Judge”) Wigneswaran has just enunciated it in the presence of President Maithripala Sirisena on the latter’s first post-election visit to Jaffna. Of course, in order to be fair by Chief Minister Wigneswaran, it must be said that the Tamil political mainstream first articulated this claim officially, way back in 1951, a good five years before 1956 and Sinhala Only.

The Federal Party in its resolution at the first national convention held in Trincomalee in 1951 proclaimed:

“Inasmuch as it is the inalienable right of every nation to enjoy full political freedom without which its spiritual, cultural and moral stature must degenerate and inasmuch as the Tamil speaking people in Ceylon constitute a nation distinct from that of the Sinhalese by every fundamental test of nationhood, firstly that of a historical past in this Island (which is) at least as ancient and as glorious as that of the Sinhalese, secondly by the fact of their being a linguistic entity entirely different from that of the Sinhalese, with an unsurpassed classical heritage and a modern development of language which makes Tamil fully adequate for all present day needs, and finally, by reason of their territorial habitation of definite areas which constitute over one third of this Island, this first national conference of I.T.A.K (Ilankai Thamil Arasu Katchi) demands for the Tamil speaking nation in Ceylon their inalienable right to political autonomy and calls for a plebiscite to determine the boundaries of the linguistic states in consonance with the fundamental and unchallengeable principles of self-determination.”

This was reiterated in and formed the conceptual basis of the explicitly secessionist Vadukkodai Resolution of 1976:

“The First National Convention of the Tamil Liberation Front, meeting at Pannakam (Vaddukodai Constituency) on the 14th day of May 1976, hereby declares that the Tamils of Ceylon, by virtue of their great language, their religions, their separate culture and heritage, their history of independent existence as a separate state over a distinct territory for several centuries till they were conquered by the armed might of the European invaders, and above all by their will to exist as a separate entity ruling themselves in their own territory, are a nation distinct and apart from the Sinhalese and their constitution, announces to the world that the Republican Constitution of 1972 has made the Tamils a slave nation ruled by the new colonial masters, the Sinhalese, who are using the power they have wrongly usurped to deprive the Tamil nation of its territory, language, citizenship, economic life, opportunities of employment and education and thereby destroying all the attributes of nationhood of the Tamil people. And therefore…This convention resolves that the restoration and reconstitution of the Free, Sovereign, Secular, Socialist State of Tamil Eelam based on the right of self-determination inherent in every nation has become inevitable in order to safeguard the very existence of the Tamil nation in this country.”

If one is to understand Tamil politics, the North-South dialectics and the contemporary history of Sri Lanka, one must recognize that the Tamil Maha Sabhai was formed over a decade before SWRD Bandaranaike formed the Sinhala Maha Sabha in the 1930s and that the Tamil claim of a separate, distinct nationhood and the right of self-determination, preceded what liberals have touted as the Original Sin, namely Sinhala Only.

Speaking in 1922, Sir Ponnambalam Arunachalam stated as follows at the meeting of the Ceylon Tamil League:

“…It has far higher aims in view, namely to keep alive and propagate these precious ideals throughout Ceylon, Southern India and the Tamil Colonies, to promote the union and solidarity of Tamilakam, the Tamil Land. We should keep alive and propagate these ideals throughout Ceylon and promote the union and solidarity of what we have been proud to call Tamil Eelam.”

The historical record clearly demonstrates that Sinhala nationalism has always been reactive and one may argue, defensive, while Tamil nationalism has been initiatory, escalatory and politically proactive, even aggressively assertive.

Chief Minister Wigneswaran is thus well within the Tamil political and ideological tradition, but he is clearly stepping up the pace.

One may well ask “what is wrong in the claim of Tamil nationhood?” Probably nothing, except for the fact that the claim is made here in Sri Lanka. The Tamils may or may not be a nation, but if they are, it would be in Tamil Nadu, not in Sri Lanka. However, in Tamil Nadu they haven’t raised the slogan of a distinct, separate nationhood for decades now. In Sri Lanka, where one ethnic community amounts to almost three fourths of the population, only it can be regarded as a nation. Given the extreme asymmetry, no other community can be regarded as a nation, but only as a national or ethnic minority. The Sinhalese are a nation within a larger, potential or emergent nation, namely the Sri Lankan nation. The Tamils of Sri Lanka are an ethnic or a national minority.

As individual citizens the Tamils must enjoy rights equal to that of the Sinhalese. Indeed every citizen on this island must enjoy equality of rights, irrespective of ethnic, linguistic, religious, caste or gender affiliation. However, as political collectivities, as political communities, the Tamils do not and cannot have an equal status as the Sinhalese, not because one is superior to the other but simply because of the island’s demographic realities. In those countries that recognize more than one nation or nationality within them, there is a rough equivalence in size between those constituent communities. If every country on the planet were to recognize as nations, those communities that were under a quarter of the population, there would be enormous destabilization. There would also be complete confusion in terms of definition, because there would be no such entity as minority nationalities or national minorities!  If the Tamils of Sri Lanka are not a national minority, who is, where and why? And if the Tamils of Sri Lanka are a nation, who—which community– in the world is not? This is the path to what the late Daniel P Moynihan, writing on ethno-nationalist particularism and drawing from John Milton’s great poem, denounced as ‘Pandemonium’.

Chief Minister Wigneswaran made clear that in his view and that of the Tamil nationalist mainstream, the political solution to the Tamil Question is not and has never been the full implementation of the 13th amendment which issued from the Indo-Lanka Accord. In his latest speech he says: “Mr. Appapillai Amirthalingam and others including our present leader Mr. Sampandan on the 28th of October 1987 had foretold that the 13th Amendment could never be a solution to our problems.”

This makes it obvious that Tamil nationalism strives not to make the 13th amendment work, but precisely to supersede it. The political goal of Tamil nationalism lies at some unspecified point beyond the 13th amendment. We do not know, though we may guess, what the envisaged ‘final status agreement’ is.

What then is the solution to the conundrum? The Tamils of Sri Lanka, and indeed every citizen and community, must have institutional guarantees against discrimination of any and all forms. Constitutional amendments, laws and regulations must be brought in to ensure this. A powerful anti-discrimination Ombudsperson could be appointed. Something akin to the old Race Relations Board in the UK could be created.

That apart, there must be a continued commitment to limited provincial self-administration and self-rule, in the form of maximum devolution within a unitary framework. What this means is the full implementation, apart from Police powers, of the 13th amendment, with negotiation on the Concurrent List so as to make for balanced and equitable swaps in terms of powers.

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    Dr Zero Causality,

    “Speaking in 1922, Sir Ponnambalam Arunachalam stated as follows at the meeting of the Ceylon Tamil League:

    “…It has far higher aims in view, namely to keep alive and propagate these precious ideals throughout Ceylon, Southern India and the Tamil Colonies, to promote the union and solidarity of Tamilakam, the Tamil Land. We should keep alive and propagate these ideals throughout Ceylon and promote the union and solidarity of what we have been proud to call Tamil Eelam.”

    Sir PA was correct

    You supported Tamil armed struggle. Did not you? Say YES or NO

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      This[Edited out] would interpret it according to him so that all media atraction is drawn on him.
      So called political analyst being unable to see it beyond – his behaviours all the weeks since the new regime is there- is akin to those of Wimal Buruwanse who was said to be born on a street corner.

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        if a man is being hated today most – it is to Dayan Jayathilaka – only for his interpretations that could surely widen the parties than getting them together. This virulent man isa greater threat to lanken peace and democracy. Sadly his malice guides him right these days not allowing the bugger his conscience.

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      Anpu

      What Dayan wrote was only part of the speech:

      Here is the complete one which is clear about their aim. However as usual Dayan make it as if Ponnambalam Arunachalam had demanded a separate state, of course by commission and ommission. Please read the whole speech.

      The text of an address delivered by Sir Ponnambalam Arunachalam to the Ceylon Tamil League in 1922.

      I offer a hearty welcome to the members of be Ceylon Tamil League in General Meeting assembled today. This is the second General Meeting since its inauguration. I am glad also to see many members of the general public . From the proceedings today they will be in a position to judge the work the League has so far done and of its aims, and of the claims it has upon the public confidence.

      There is no need for me to speak at length, as the Committee’s Report sets forth fully the League’s work and aims and ideals. The League was brought into existence by political necessity, but politics is not its raison-detre.

      It has far higher aims in view, namely to keep alive and propagate these precious ideals throughout Ceylon, Southern India and the Tamil Colonies, to promote the union and solidarity of Tamilakam, the Tamil Land.

      We should keep alive and propagate these ideals throughout Ceylon and promote the union and solidarity of what we have been proud to call Tamil Eelam.

      We desire to preserve our individuality as a people, make ourselves worthy of our inheritance…We are not enamoured of that Cosmopolitanism which would make of as neither fish, fowl, nor red herring.

      That does not mean that we are to be selfish and work only for the interests of the Tamil Community. Who have done more for the welfare of all Ceylon than the Tamil? Who has fought more vigorously for the welfare of the Sinhalese in the “Dark days of 1915” when our Sinhalese brethren were in distress and helpless ? Who came to their rescue but the Tamils? That statue which was to be the grateful memorial of the help rendered, may (as proposed in some quarters) be flung into the sea. But the Tamils are not going to abandon the proud duty and privilege of service to all our brothers of every race and creed .

      But we do object strongly to being bullied or terrorised, we object to being the underdogs of anybody. We mean to make ourselves strong and also to work for the common good. The Europeans with all the power and prestige, with the Ceylon Chamber of Commerce, Planters Association, European Ceylon Association feel the necessity of improving their organisation. Much more should we. We cannot any longer afford to be apathetic.

      The Jaffna Association and the Tamil Maha Jana Sabha have done most useful work in the Northern Province. There are small Tamil Associations scattered over the Island and admirably fitted to promote local patriotism and watch over local interests.

      With all these it will be our aim to work in friendly and hearty co operation. We wish also to co-operate with every other Community in the Island – European, Burgher, Sinhalese, Mohammedan and Indian. We believe that such co-operation is the best and shortest to our political advancement.

      In order to further the objects of the League we shall work for the establishment of a daily paper in Colombo – a vital necessity. The Committee’s proposal with regard to this will be laid before you. We shall also work to establish an Agency in London and a Club in Colombo.

      All this requires heavy outlay of money for which I trust the Tamil Community, and especially its wealthier members here and in the Federated Malay States, will contribute liberally. But it requires also enthusiasm, perseverance, united effort and these I believe will not be wanting. May God bless and prosper our efforts.”

      http://tamilnation.co/selfdetermination/tamileelam/
      2200arunachalam.htm

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        Dear NV,

        Thank you very much for quoting Sir. P. Arunachalam’s speech in full. No one could have been a greater Ceylonese!

        Dayan is becoming the equivalent of the likes of K.M.P. Rajaratne and Cyril Mathew by the day. He is trying to stir calming waters, so that he can fish! It is shocking he can descend to such murky and malodourous depths. I am sad for him and this country!
        Dr.RN

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          Thanks Native Vedda.
          Dr RN,

          Am I right K.M.P. Rajaratne’s wife Kusuma was also equally good as her husband?

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            Dear Anpu,
            They were quite a pair in peddling Sinhala extremism. KMP was a konar from Kerala. Cyril Mathew too had Kerala origins!

            Dr.RN

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          Dr. Narendran,
          DJ is so pathetic that he parses
          every word that Justice CVW utters with a view
          to distorting it selectively for his racist propaganda.
          Joblessness,insecurity and greed to maintain
          a certain lifestyle are all transparent causes.
          Cyril Mathew,indeed!

          By the way, even as he mentioned two nations in one country, CVW makes
          clear he wants everyone to become fluent in three languages. That is hardly a separatist mindset.

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          Quoted from Arunachalam’s speech,

          “It has far higher aims in view, namely to keep alive and propagate these precious ideals throughout Ceylon, Southern India and the Tamil Colonies, to promote the union and solidarity of Tamilakam, the Tamil Land.

          We should keep alive and propagate these ideals throughout Ceylon and promote the union and solidarity of what we have been proud to call Tamil Eelam.”

          Really? Ceylonese?

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            Sach,

            Lanka has been called Eelam in Tamil for centuries, if not millennia. Ravana was called also Eelaventhan (King of Eelam). The Tamil poet from our island who attended the Tamil Sangam gathering in ancient times was named Eelathu Poothathevanar ( Poothathevanar from Eelam). Incidentally, the more modern Tamil name, Illankai, evolved from the word Eelam. You are a citizen of Eelam, as much as we are. In the Tiger parlance, we Tamils belonged to Tamil Eelam- our side of their Palmyra fence! By inference, the Sinhalese belong to Sinhala Eelam on their side of the same fence!

            Learn more of Lankan/Eelam history and Tamil history before venturing to make comments that are puerile to those who know. Let us not engage in childish and baseless discussions anymore, but try to make Sri Lanka the blessed Isle it was designed to be.

            Dr.RN

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              Can you please give me a source to what you said? From where did you pick this up? What is the source?

              Please mention.

              And do you know Ravana is not a historical figure and a mythical figure in the truest sense of the word ‘mythical’?

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              So he is talking about TN, Tamil colonies and Eelam.
              Are you trying to say he was NOT talking about an eelam here? Was he talking about whole of SL as you suggest? Isnt it even a bigger wrong to call SL a Tamil country?

              Isnt that the same thing GGP said in parliament?

              Are you suggesting that calling SL a tamil country is right?

              And please doctor, your dishonesty is very very clear here.

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              So give me a proper source to this so called proper Tamil history. I am ready to have a look. Please give a source.

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              “”but try to make Sri Lanka the blessed Isle it was designed to be.”

              that is just the donkey fudge of the sinhalese (sanskrit borrowed based on TN forward discussions with centre delhi- old and obsolet dig of theirs buruvas think prakirt is going to save their skin- it was discharged with disgrace outlaws buddhist across the seas)

              avoid being eaten by inarticulate next-door neighbors, sloth the siren sach
              predators, lions and hyenas. You must avoid sloth, that wicked siren.

              0″What is the source? ” (seduced by different delusions)
              Deshestha Marathi, spoken in Tanjore, Tamil Nadu
              Judæo-Marathi, spoken by the Bene Israel Jews
              The first Marathi translation of an English book was published in 1817, and the first Marathi newspaper was started in 1832. 1818 East India Company it fell fully to British same as Kandy whole country.

              ^^…^^^..^@==TN

              Hanuman Ki Jai…
              Ha
              Nu
              Man, apna hindu sanskrit puddhu sach.

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          No dear Doctor, it is the diaspora and the likes of vingshvaran who are trying to stir the calming waters. Dayan is keeping us informed.
          Soma

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            Dear Soma,

            Dayan is very intently trying to pull hair from a bald head!

            Dr.RN

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              Dear dr RN
              It is comforting to be reassured that is wrong. Our fervent hope is to be proved so.
              Soma

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          Dear Dr RN,

          Sir Arunachalam had his good qualities and his bad qualities. If Sir Arunachalam had his way 70% of the Tamil population of Lanka would have been Constitutionally a second class entity. Fortunately for the Tamils he could not get his way.

          What his speech underlines is the desire to create a Tamil state where Tamils would be an overwhelming Majority. He was not happy living with an overwhelming non Tamil majority. The device he planned was a Pan Tamil amalgamation of Lanka with Southern India, extending further afield to the Tamil colonies.

          He was the first elected Ceylonese, though those who qualified to vote was not representative of the population due to education and wealth requirements. Sinhalese voted for him in preference to another Sinhalese (it is said this was due to cast issues). Sir Arunachalam stood by his Sinhala electorate and braved the seas to go to England and plead the case of those who were incarcerated after the 1915 Riots. Which he did successfully.

          The Police Ordinance of 1865 had two clauses (69 & 90) which dealt with Public nuisance. Beating of drums was considered “noise” and went against centuries of cultural practices of both Buddhists and Hindus. This left these two groups at a disadvantage when practicing age old customs. This has been the underlying cause for several riots in SL.

          Kind Regards,
          OTC

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            OTC,

            ” Sinhalese voted for him in preference to another Sinhalese (it is said this was due to cast issues).”

            So Sinhalese also have caste issues!!!

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              Dear Anpu,

              Yes of course Sinhalese did have cast issues because some of our Parent stock is from India. But we are fortunate to have escaped the worst of the Hindu religion, which is the mainstay of the Cast Structure amongst the Lanka Tamils. You believe that “Manu” put the High Casts on Earth to rule the “other”.

              Fortunately the Sinhalese is a mixture of those who came from India and those who were INDEGENES of Lanka and the Genetic make up inherited from South India got diluted by the parent stock of the indegenes of Lanka. It was to our fortune that Emperor Asoka established Buddhism in Lanka which looks down on Cast divisions. Thus the cast system amongst the Sinhala was NOTHING compared to what the Lanka Tamils have.

              Here is a small intro, if you want more detail please just ask.

              Quote
              Arunachalam noted in the 1901 Census Report : It is compatible with ‘high caste’ in Ceylon to seek not only to exclude members of the other castes, however worthy, from public offices, but in the rural districts to prevent them from adopting modes of dress, living or locomotion hitherto used by higher castes. Riots have occurred from these causes and they constitute one of the difficulties of administration in Ceylon.

              The social status of the non-vellala castes in Jaffna was extremely low, compared to the position of the non-goigama in Buddhist Ceylon. This stemmed from the fact that some of the largest non-vellala castes, the koviyars, cliandars, paths and nalavas had been slaves of the vellala up to the abolition of slavery by the colonial government in 1844. There had been slavery among the Kandyan Sinhalese but it was of the mildest form, slaves being personal bond-men to the owners

              Of the four slave castes, the koviyars were the most privileged, as they had been household servants to the vellala; the nalavas or toddy-tappers, and the pallas, landless labourers, were however treated much like helots or serfs by the vellala who formed the powerful landowning class. Their position after the abolition of slavery was not much improved. As Tambiah observed, Although slavery was abolished legally, many of the depressed classes remained as de facto slaves of their masters for economical reasons.

              Even by the mid-20th century the status of the pallas, for example, was hardly any better than a century before. Tambiah quotes from the Manual of the Madura District published in 1868 to describe the position of the pallas in 1951.

              They are a numerous but abject and despised race. Their principal occupation is ploughing the land of the more fortunate Tamils, and though normally free, they are usually slaves in almost every sense of the word.’ The outcastes or parayas had a deplorable social status. Among this group, there was a caste unique to Jaffna, the turumbas or washers men to the parayas. They were not allowed to be seen in the daylight and could only travel by night

              In 1933, the vellala bus-drivers went on strike in protest against attempts by the depressed classes to emancipate themselves to the extent of exercising a prerogative of sitting on the seats in the buses, as opposed to the floor which had previously been their preserve. A few months later in a caste feud between vellala and non-vellala Catholics, a vellala was killed, and the houses of several parayas burnt down, over the issue of a paraya man wearing shoes in church.

              The next day, another feud developed in another village between vellalas and nalavas over the rights of the nalavas to cremate their dead in a vellala cremation place, and a man was shot.

              Quoted from the PhD Thesis of Dr Jane Russell, Communal Politics under the Donoughmore Constitution, 1931 – 1947 (available from Thisara Publications, Lanka).

              This is the bad thing about Arunachelam that I hinted to in my address to Dr. Rajasingham Narendran (March 5, 2015 at 10:19 pm). Sir Arunachalam made representations TWICE to have the cast system encoded into the Constitution. If that happened 70% of the Tamil population would have been in eternal BONDAGE and ruled by the 30% High cast TAMIL Slave drivers who owned ALL Land and ALL means of production. If that happened the Tamil people would be spitting on the memory of Sir Arunachalam. Luckily for the Tamil people this was rejected outright.

              Read and understand how the Minority of HIGH cast Tamils (Vellala) VIOLATED THE HUMAN RIGHTS OF THE MAJORITY LOW CAST TAMILS FOR CENTURIES.

              It is these self same HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATORS who VIOLATED the TAMIL PEOPLE that are today acting as lily white lambs and claiming it was they who were oppressed by the Sinhalese. In fact the problems started when the Prevention of Social disabilities act was enacted in 1957. To understand why, you should observe the adverse reactions of the Vellala, to the EQUAL seating directive of the Colonial Govt a few decades earlier.

              14 years after the PSDA became law an amendment had to be passed in 1971 as the original PSDA remained a dead letter in the North. It had no teeth to bite the oppressors and the oppressed were abjectly poor and had no means to sue the oppressors.

              Bryan Pfaffenberger’s book, ‘Caste in Tamil Culture’ has the following

              “The alleged oppression of the Tamils by the Sinhalese is mostly a defensive garb, to conceal the inner conflicts caused by the caste system among the Tamils”.

              “Becoming a Vellala involves assuming Vellala customs and gaining control over land. It is precisely for this reason that entire villages may be burnt down and people killed over trivial incident as a Pallar cutting his hair or wearing a shoe. For Vellala much is at stake.”

              Kind regards,
              OTC

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      This means, in the so called Tamil land, the new minority communities such as the Muslims and Sinhalese could ask for new nations within the Tamil land and so on it will go.
      Could this also mean that the Afro Americans and Latinos too could ask for new nations, within the USA, wherever they are in a majority?
      Will there be an end to such divisions and the accompanying mayhem?

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        Raja

        “Could this also mean that the Afro Americans and Latinos too could ask for new nations, within the USA, wherever they are in a majority?”

        Its their problem and not yours. Let them deal with theirs and let us deal with ours.

        Finding a innovative solution in this island could serve as a model for other nations if they really want to copy and modify.

        “Will there be an end to such divisions and the accompanying mayhem?”

        have you really thought about the idea, process, end product and benefit from changing structure of the state without dividing the country.

        Take a break go sit under a Bo tree and think about it.

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      This man will get ready to actively participate in the next rally goin to be held in Kandy on th 6th – will be a greater threat to lanken peace.

      Can anybody of your guys – CT readerships feel that the substance of the article is unbiased ? iF MR would have been reeleted, no rival voice will have been given chance to add their thoughts and minds as has been allowed to this day. That DJet al should closely study before going to make any kind of views in favours of MR kalliya.

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      Dear Anpu And NV
      I never knew this speech by PA existed..and the sacred word Tamil Eelam was used by him (thanks to the Tamil Nation Website)! Compare Dayan the Narcissist’s article here and my rebuttal to him earlier:
      https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/tamil-perspective-dangerous-and-genocidal-dayange-chinthanaya/

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        Usha S Sri-Skanda-Rajah

        “the sacred word Tamil Eelam was used by him (thanks to the Tamil Nation Website)!”

        Don’t read too much into his speech. He didn’t mean Tamil Eelam as a separate state.

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      Credibility Barometer as of now 04th March 2015

      a)Dayan Jayathilaka – almost all and sundry seem to compare him with that of Wimal Werawanshe who would only cry for narrow minded gains

      b)Wimal Buruwanse – not many respect him today- but those who find his talktive narrations enjoy listening to him as seen in Nugegoda lately

      c)Dayasiri Jayasekara – almost none woudl resect him as of now

      d)Udaya Gommanpila – almost none would respect him as a living being to this day

      e)Meeharaka Rajapakshe – People are in mixed thoughts since actions taken against his high profile abuses are not yet clear

      f) All other former COrrupt men such as Jonsten Fernando, Rohitha, Walgama et al- theirs will reveal soon

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      It was revealed that the Rajapaksa Government has paid US$840,000 to Patton Boggs Ltd and US$45,000 to Cranford Johnson Robinson PR, US$ 49,106 to Steve Hedges and US$354,000 to Majority Group LLC from 2010 to 2012 – See more at: http://www.dailymirror.lk/65443/probe-on-payments-to-us-congressmen#sthash.9cgzyjFc.dpuf

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    I thought this monkey has better brains. CW has been explicit in his explanation and doesn’t need further amplification. I knew there will be a dash by this guy and true enough he has all the time to leap from one tree to another. Looks like he has been contracted by MR and he will sell his soul to the highest bidder.

    This “two nation” within one country has been a subject raised by the Tamils since 1956. Why blame the Tamils for “waking up” if whatever guarantees given to minorities in the Constitution, and particularly Tamils, are unilaterally revoked through the various acts of the majority, like the Sinhala Only Act and the republican constitution in 1971/72. Did the sinhalese keep the promise agreed upon during independence?

    The majority sinhalese must tank Sirisena for taking a saner approach. The Tamils were that near to implicate SL under the Rajapakse regime. Now this joker has become somewhat a parasitic monkey. The most idiotic of his thinking is that Sirisena, Ranil, Mangala, Rajitha, etc have all ceased to be thinking people and have become mentally ill to the extent that they cannot think for themselves how to handle matters for which they have been entrusted with. He believes he is the only sinhalese in the whole of SL who has the intent desire and patriotism to handle these matters. If the sinhalese can understand this sinhalese traitor, he and his uncle MR and his brothers sold SL’s future with huge debts to fill their pockets. The UNHRC had already commissioned an international investigation and possibly may have ended with sanctions. Thanks to the new regime that has taken a different turn now. Listen to his joker and SL will be doomed forever.

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      since 1922,

      Tamils could do nothing to SL under rajapakse.there is no way…

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        sach

        “since 1922,”

        What is the significance of 1922?

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          Go and read the speech of Arunachalam you pasted..
          which had this,

          “It has far higher aims in view, namely to keep alive and propagate these precious ideals throughout Ceylon, Southern India and the Tamil Colonies, to promote the union and solidarity of Tamilakam, the Tamil Land.

          We should keep alive and propagate these ideals throughout Ceylon and promote the union and solidarity of what we have been proud to call Tamil Eelam.”

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        sach:

        Well, you must ask your hero Rajapakse. He was grumbling that his loss was because of the Tamils. Tamils can make and break presidents, whether you like it or not. Did you hear of the infamous marathon run after he was refused the privilege to address the Oxford Union?

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          We also like tamils breaking or making presidents in this country as citizens instead of exploding the presidents with suicide bombs. I am glad Tamils have actually finally tasted what democracy is.

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            such,

            Please do not talk through your head!

            “I am glad Tamils have actually finally tasted what democracy is.”

            If the Sinhala leaders in the past understood the true principles of Democracy, we would not be in the state now! You think that Democracy means merely counting of the heads; it is a number game! At the 1977 general elections, the Tamils manifested their feelings democratically, your leaders did not understand that.

            1983 pogrom showed how well your leaders respected the Tamils. Your leaders sent thugs to burn down the Jaffna library; where was democracy then? The Bindeluweva prison massacre under the nose of the security forces; it is very clear you understand democracy! Please do not think that we are fools like you!

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              BI,

              Do you think these stupids ever realize their hell share of crime?
              Sach, Sanakaran sharma, Summa sekara, vibhee, jimmy, waste of time. While they jump hell pointing the fingers of LTTE’s crime , they are hell bent keeping silence when these questions are raised about teh conduct of their elected government?

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                manisekaran

                If those nutter are not around this forum would become too boring. Therefore we need Wee Thamihz, blAbhaya, Banda, mechanic, OTC, Ramuuuu,
                KA Sumana, sach, …………….. Dayan, HLD Mahinda. Similar to entertainers like Swamy, Vaiko, Nedumaran, Seeman, ……… Nadarajan, ….

                I love fun at their expense.

                Please don’t ask them to go away.

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                  The Tamil nut who thinks he is smart waxes eloquent!

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                    yep,he is smart waxes eloquent!

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                The hell share of crime (if that is actually a word) should be born by arrogant and selfish tamil politicians since 1900s, India and cross border terrorism.

                Thousands of people in SL died because of the arrogance of racists like GGP

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              what is the 1983 pogrom has to do with democracy in SL? Are you out of your mind? If you take India, they faced Gujrat riots, bombay riots, Sikh riots and thousands were perished. Even last year hundreds died in Hindu-Muslim violence in Assam and Muzzafarnagar. Does that mean India is not democracy?

              Ethnic riots were a common place in almost all post colonial countries with a heterogeneous society. It is not a problem of democracy but societal problem.

              Counting heads is an integral part of a democracy. I know this is the real reason Tamils started having issues. If you go to early post independence history it was clear that Tamil leaders were very much against Universal suffrage in SL. Because they feared their power will be lost. That was where the starting point of this conflict was. Tamil leaders feared they will lose their power.

              Actually tamil leaders did understand true principles of democracy and feared their loss of power.

              As jansee said, tamils make and break presidents in SL. Isnt that what political rights are? Tamils are politically strong to have a say in SL matters and that is why MR had to go.

              You dont understand your mention about 83 or anything from 48 (since you want to ignore what happened before 48) is not relevant here.

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            sach:

            “I am glad Tamils have actually finally tasted what democracy is.”

            So do the sinhalese and I am glad about that, too. In their immense wisdom, they chucked out the “king”.

            You see sach, when the issue of independence arose, the Tamils joined hands with the Sinhalese to stake for that claim. If they (the Tamils) had not believed in one Ceylon, they would not have joined hands with the Sinhalese. The present constitution of SL is an illegal one. Just like MR declared himself king through the 18A, the republican constitution destroyed the democracy that you are talking about. That the declaration and request of two nations and one country is a modest one and that is the best way for two races diametrically opposed to each other. There will never be peace in SL until the Sinhalese realise and accede to this.

            Whether this country will remain as one will depend on how the Sinhalese and their leaders realise the magnitude of this problem. It has become too internationalised and many countries have already made it their dream to have a piece of SL. As long as there is a festering problem between the two races, India will continue to intervene whichever way it suits its interest. Today, like it or not, SL has to beg the foreign countries to postpone presenting the report in the UNHRC. Fools who believe that MR was defending the honour of SL in resisting the UNHRC investigation may fall in line if sanctions are imposed against it, if it comes to that. Instead of protecting SL sovereignty MR put SL on the chopping board. He is dead wood now. The present regime and the UNHRC will gleefully offer him and GR as the sacrificial lamb. It It will be wishful thinking to hope for anything less. So, instead of glorifying MR’s democracy, SL needs assistance to put right its understanding of democracy. Who knows, to save their skin, the Rajapakses may point their fingers to Wimal Weerawansa as the instigator of the crimes. Looking at the story of Sarath Fonseka. My gut feeling is it may be the other way round. Once pressure piles on Weerawansa, he will “jump” as far away as possible from the Rajapakses. He had already blamed Basil for the loss. He left the JVP for greener pastures and does he look like the real fasting hero waiting for MR to feed him orange juice.

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              I hope all Sinhalese who mock at dayan will read Jansee’s comment.

              Between jansee, we have had democracy since 1948. Sinhala people are quite used to the change of governments and democracy. I know this is an alien concept to Tamils.

              Tamils never stood for a Ceylon. Tamils had different ideas even before independence and that is clear from Arunachalams, Ponnambalams of the yesteryears.

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                you were never born in ceylon [Edited out] sach!
                to take ownership of the word [Edited out].

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      Mr Jansee
      Where are you going to place (I mean physically) the Tamil speaking people out side North and East in your 2 nation scenario.
      Soma

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    Reminds me of a proverb…….empty vessels make the most noise !

    You are empty not only in principles but also in achievements !

    Two great souls left us yesterday, Prof. Senake Bandaranayake and Prof. Oleap Fernando.
    They will be remembered fondly for all the right reasons.

    You I suspect will be remembered too, for all the wrong reasons !

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      Whoa Dev, he hasn’t left us yet – they say that only the good die young! He has time to reform, and I sincerely hope that he will reflect on all this sane commentary about his antics and have the courage to say ‘mea culpa’ and a few hail mary’s………

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        LOL I didn’t mean he was dead but when he dies unlike the two greats who left us he will not be remembered fondly.

        Dayan’s epitaph will certainly state that he was available for the highest bidder for purchase !

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    The penultimate paragraph of above article is the most important.

    It was precisely to prevent discrimination, that Section 29 was inserted in the very first constitution – and this was annulled by all subsequent constitutions, which were planned precisely with this step as the most important.

    Hence, we should bring back Section 29 as another amendment to the present constitution.
    Those who oppose, will show their true colours.

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    Likes the losers NFF, BBS and all the other RAVAYAS and Balu Senas Dr DJ too has been isolated by the masses and media, he has only 1 place to expressed his opinion which is online media, thank to MS/RW government these web sites are no longer blocked in SL.

    Dayan enjoying fruits of Yahapalanaya. I am expecting DJ to write “Diwa Raa nobala Hitu kiayala”

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    I was waiting for this DR DJ has not disappointed me! He has become so predictable these days; how sad!

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    I scanned through the article and spotted this gem:

    “As individual citizens the Tamils must enjoy rights equal to that of the Sinhalese. Indeed every citizen on this island must enjoy equality of rights, irrespective of ethnic, linguistic, religious, caste or gender affiliation. However, as political collectivities, as political communities, the Tamils do not and cannot have an equal status as the Sinhalese, not because one is superior to the other but simply because of the island’s demographic realities.”

    This dump DR does not realise it is because of this kind of nonsense that CM deems two nations! This man says that everyone should be equal but Tamils cannot be equal to the Sinhala because of the demographic realities! His statement is totally mutually exclusive and preposterous! This is exactly why the Tamils must stick to the two nation concept because the Sinhala will not accept Tamils as equal!

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      It is not his statement that is the problem, it is your understanding that is the problem.

      Everyone , individually should be equal in SL without a race bias….with same political rights, access to education, professions, etc..

      But as a bundle sinhala identity and tamil identity are not the same. SInhala is the only nation in SL that has a history and a tradition.

      SInhala is the product of SL.

      Take Sinhala out and see what is left in SL’s heritage…

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        “Take Sinhala out and see what is left in SL’s heritage”

        What about that piece of a broken piss pot with chicken scratch on it that Tamilnet discovered and used to conclude that Sri Lanka has always been a We Thamizh country :D

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          Wee Thamihz Senior Journalist D: Siva Sankaran Sarma Menon

          “What about that piece of a broken piss pot with chicken scratch on it that Tamilnet discovered and used to conclude that Sri Lanka has always been a We Thamizh country :D “

          You must be a man of many talents, being secret epigraphist I thought information on “broken piss pot with chicken scratch” may of interest to you.

          Except:

          The Hindu

          An epigraphic perspective on the antiquity of Tamil

          IRAVATHAM MAHADEVAN

          June 24, 2010

          Sri Lanka: Tamils have been living in the northern and eastern parts of the island from time immemorial. Several small fragments of pottery with a few Tamil-Brahmi letters scratched on them have been found from the Jaffna region. However, a much more sensational discovery is a pottery inscription from an excavation conducted at Tissamaharama on the southeastern coast of Sri Lanka. A fragment of a high-quality black and red-ware flat dish inscribed in Tamil in the Tamil-Brahmi script was found in the earliest layer. It was provisionally dated to around 200 BCE by German scholars who undertook the excavation. The inscription reads tiraLi muRi, which means “written agreement of the assembly” (See Figure 4). The inscription bears testimony to the presence in southern Sri Lanka of a local Tamil mercantile community organised in a guild to conduct inland and maritime trade as early as at the close of the 3 {+r} {+d} century BCE.

          http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/
          tp-opinion/an-epigraphic-perspective
          -on-the-antiquity-of-tamil/article483319.ece

          PS

          If you need further information on broken piss pot with chicken scratch please contact

          Hindu
          or
          IRAVATHAM MAHADEVAN

          is an Indian epigraphist and former civil servant, known for his successful decipherment of Tamil-Brahmi inscriptions and for his expertise on the epigraphy of the Indus Valley Civilization.

          Publications

          Corpus of Tamil-Brahmi inscriptions (1966)

          The Indus Script: Texts, Concordance and Tables (1977)

          Early Tamil Epigraphy : From the Earliest Times to the Sixth Century A.D. (Harvard Oriental Series 62) (2003)

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            So you mean some pottery with Tamil Brahmi letters are proof of a tamil civilisation in SL?

            LOL

            If that is your proof, the tamil eelam really is bogus.

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      Dear NV,

      Thank you very much for quoting Sir. P. Arunachalam’s speech in full. No one could have been a greater Ceylonese!

      Dayan is becoming the equivalent of the likes of K.M.P. Rajaratne and Cyril Mathew by the day. He is trying to stir calming waters, so that he can fish! It is shocking he can descend to such murky and malodourous depths. I am sad for him and this country!
      Dr.RN

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        “It has far higher aims in view, namely to keep alive and propagate these precious ideals throughout Ceylon, Southern India and the Tamil Colonies, to promote the union and solidarity of Tamilakam, the Tamil Land.

        We should keep alive and propagate these ideals throughout Ceylon and promote the union and solidarity of what we have been proud to call Tamil Eelam.”

        Being Ceylonese?

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      Burning Issue,

      Dayan is measuring equality in terms of kilograms! If individual citizens of Sri Lanka, whoever they may be are equal, how can they become unequal as communities? Equality is not quantitative. It is qualitative and should be absolute. It cannot be quantitative. If Dayan is talking of voting power, yes, the Sinhalese have a greater say as a majority. However this say- which is weight- Cannot diminish the equality of the citizens who belong to the smaller communities. This is what has happened in Sri Lanka. Majoritarianism has masqueraded for too long as democracy and wreaked havoc. This is why need political reform and devolution of power to the periphery are a necessity NOW.

      Dayan is increasingly showing that he is a wolf in sheep’s clothing! A shame for a man of his background,

      Dr.RN

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    “However, in Tamil Nadu they haven’t raised the slogan of a distinct, separate nationhood for decades now” How misleading for a man of learning. In Tamil Nadu in that great sub-continent neither the State, the people, its language or culture have come under threat and extinction as it did for decades and does still here. Elementary, don’t you think so? It is the open threat of genocide Tamils here have to deal with now – what with low IQ loud-mouths like Sarath Fonseka, Galaboda Gnanasera and hundreds of their fellow-travellers. The Rajapakses, of course, play their role camouflaged.

    Do raise the quality of your argument, Dayan, if you wish to get anywhere in your new avatar of political animal cum racial demagogue. Way out there it used to be “Hollywood or Bust” and it looks like it is Parliament or bust in this new career shift of yours.

    R. Varathan

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      Go and take a hike around the country to see whether tamil language is under extinction…everytime I come out from my office in wellawatta, what i hear is Tamil tamil tamil …but in internet Tamil is under extinction..

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        Sach,

        Listen to what NPC/CM Justice Wigneswaren, Sampanthan, Sumanthiran et al say before coming to erroneous conclusions.
        And to that list the UN and New Delhi, for starters.
        Wellawatta (it should really be Wellapitiya) is not all that
        Tamil-exclusive as you suggest. There are Sinhalese, Muslims, Burghers and others – all of whom combined – may well outnumber the Tamils. A good number of the Tamils there, at any rate, are migrants. On their way out to “escape” in the diaspora.

        R. Varathan

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          Did I say it is exclusively tamil? What I said is if tamil is under extinction, such a thing is not possible

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    Dayan is wriggling like a worn unable to stomach things going against his deep seated desire for Sinhala Buddhist hegemony and a freakin unitary state of Sri Lanka to roost!

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      Amend to read: Dayan is wriggling like a worn against the (much justified) assault on his self-bloated ego. My opinion: DJ does not care a fart about Sinhala, Buddhist, bo tree, a dead tooth, for that matter even Sri Lanka. All he really cares is for a dpl posting, to take flight to Europe, and sit on a high stool sipping scotch. DJ is essentially DISHONEST.

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    What a bizarre argument – that extremity (75%) of majority of population means another groups can’t be a nation – firstly the two are not linked but secondly it seems that the world disagrees (unsurprisingly) – scots only make up 5% of the UK, (so less than 10%) of its population and they are indeed considered a nation. Hmm DJ .. getting desperate as he is consigned to academic oblivion.

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      The academic institute that gave Dayan a degree in Political Science should seriously overhaul its curriculum!

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      Alex,

      This diabolical Dayan is so thick skinned to twist and turn the facts to support his cock-eyed arguments of “political science”, or is it political nonsense? He even denies what are existent in other parts of the world thinking that we are fools to believe his falsehoods.

      Oh Dayan, it is a pity you were no taught to think straight and be truthful in your arguments. You are really a third rate analyst.

      This is why I insist that you have become the Joseph Goebbels for the Sinhala Buddhist fascists of the Gnanasara kind.

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    What is also amusing is that DJ is willing to give anything as long as the structure of the state is ‘unitary’ – in other words all the agreements conferred can be changed at anytime by the Sinhala majority – hilarious – so agree any price knowing it can be legally repudiated later. Clear thinks he is the only guy to have figured it out – very cunning Dayan, very cunning indeed.

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    DAYAN IS AN ABSOLUTE RACIST. AT A TIME WE ARE SEEKING RECONCILIATION HE IS FANNING THE FLAMES OF COMMUNALISM.

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      yeah wiggie is taking reconciliation forward..

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      a maggot always manages to get into the apple but cant go in two’s.
      To your master Hindia.

      It happens when tamils vs sihala (hindia sees tamil as hindu and sihala as buddhist)
      both are stupid so Dayan wriggles into an apple though he is no different from tip cut and is worse because conversions are going on right now to christian by bribery.

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        Most Buddhists here wrongly have in their mind that Hinduism and Buddhism are opposed to each other. Little do they realise Princeling Siddarth Gauthama, widely known as Buddha (the wise one) was himself from the Sanatana Dharma tradition a.k.a. Hinduism. The Buddha, in wisdom and knowledge, far ahead of his times was in the quest for the causes of unhappiness and sorrow.
        What a noble path! What a noble son of the Bharath soil.

        Kettikaran

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      Raman

      “AT A TIME WE ARE SEEKING RECONCILIATION HE IS FANNING THE FLAMES OF COMMUNALISM”

      Could you find him a day job tied to honest day’s work for an honest day’s pay.

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      Rama, is not it more like, Vigneswaran is an absolute racists and Dayan is trying to put some sense into his thick head!

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        Patriot

        “Vigneswaran is an absolute racists and Dayan is trying to put some sense into his thick head!”

        Why do you imagine CV W is a racist and could you define a racist in your own words so that I can apply it to others and see if there are others who fit well as racists in this forum and elsewhere.

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    Dayan sees the bigger picture and the plans of the NPC and diaspora. His critics have ignored the lessons of history.

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      He never spoke Hindi Punjabi or French to know the lesson of history.

      Just the Johnny Walker has always done the trick at south block and he wants to lure it- high hopes for` angrejeka putra` once bitten twice shy.
      You have no idea what a state means and what the whole central means- hindia is on alert to lanket wowla gimmicks – thanks the malabari is out of scene and even lost the harbor project to Surat.

      we all live in a yellow submarine.

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      Taraki

      “Dayan sees the bigger picture and the plans of the NPC and diaspora.”

      Is he using a magnificent glass to see grain of sand a nano particle? Oh dear.

      “His critics have ignored the lessons of history.”

      What history and what lesson?

      Is it to do with Vijaya, bestiality, parricide, incestuous relation?

      Or war mongering Dayan’s illegal liaison with EPRLF, support for Premadasa who saved the dying LTTE, or buying favour from VP the psychopath?

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    I think that Wigneswaran is providing all the fodder that Dayan needs to provoke the Sinhala majority.

    Wigneswaran has ceased to be honest because the tanha for political power has impeded his mindfulness. He should go on retreat this weekend to absorb the wisdom in Bhagavad Gita and in the Dhammapada.

    Engaging in right mindfulness will provide the time he needs to mull over the vast similarities between Lord Krishna’s advice to prince Arjuna in the battlefield and Buddha’s principles of Dhamma.

    If Wigneswaran develops the mental training needed to present the grievances (dukkha) of the Tamils, rather than a putative TamiL natIon, in terms of anicca (impermanence) and anatta (asoulity) that the Sinhalese understand, he will solve the national problem swiftly without appealing for international interference
    and taking up cudgels because of ego.

    DJ and Mahindapala should ALSO voluntarily GO THROUGH mindful training.

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    Native.

    Dayan has been caught again with his Pants down with your clarification.The first time was in April 1993 at the funeral of Lalith. I think Dayan likes to show no?

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    Even Mahinda Rajapakse was too lenient with Tamils.

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      Jim softy

      “Even Mahinda Rajapakse was too lenient with Tamils”

      You mean MR was lenient to the extent that he didn’t order the Sinhala/Buddhist armed forces to finish off rest of the Tamils. Probably either he didn’t have permission from his big sister Hindia or enough killing machines.

      Why don’t you advice him to build gas chambers, cost effective, efficient, less messy, crime scene can be easily cleaned up, ……… difficult to locate for at least 3 years, he could claim zero causality with zero population of Tamils.

      In case if you need technical expertise to build such burners please contact Gaskammer operatives a number of them are still serving prison sentences.

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        NAtive Veddha:

        Probably either he didn’t have permission from his big sister Hindia

        I agree with the above.

        Even USA saysm, even though China provided most of the small weapons, it is them who gave most of the intelligence information.

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          Jim softy

          Now you know who rules this island. JR, MR, VP, Gota …. were/are all incidental to the grand plan or great game.

          Therefore if necessary the players could obliterate this island in no time. Even the majority will have little or no time to escape.

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      The only comment CT allows you to make!! Thank them.

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    Fraudulent and misleading use of quotes by the Gotee Dayan should be defrocked!if not de-balled
    If not for the sharp mind that gave the full quote and context this sinister racist would have pulled the wool over peoples eyes and fan the flames of hatred.

    This man should be arrested as number one terrorist…
    The academic institute that gave Dayan a degree in Political Science should seriously overhaul its curriculum!

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    A brave and bold speech by CV

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    This time it is real, unlike in FP resolution in 51 and the LTTE in 76..

    Then ,they didn’t have TNGTE PM, One Million Eelaam residents in the West with Dual Passports ( soon),Cameron , Harper and their agent Ranil as the PM of Srilanka who will soon have total Executive Powers. .

    Thank god that Mattala Airport and the Magampura Port are there for the 5.8 Million who only wanted a multi cultural Nation to live as one.

    But their worry now is whether the Muslims want to become citizens of Tamil Nation as in Sambandan’s statement at the 2010 Prez Election.

    Or will it be three Nations in one country, with three Ambassadors at the United Nations?..

    I mean UN is not united Countries….Right ..

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      K.A Sumanasekera

      Good to hear from you.

      “This time it is real, unlike in FP resolution in 51 and the LTTE in 76..”

      What was the LTTE resolution in 1976 about? Remind me as I was not briefed on this matter by my Elders. When did LTTE have the habit of passing resolutions. Is it also another new and improved history writing?

      “Or will it be three Nations in one country, with three Ambassadors at the United Nations?..”

      Could you define nation in your own word.

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    When I read CVW’s speech which I did before reading DJ’s reply, I immediately formulated what DJ’s twist and reply would be. The reply by DJ to many writings in CT is so predictable.

    The Buddhist Sinhala race that DJ has taken upon himself to represent is being dealt a disservice by his often not so well disguised racial bias and his imbecilic slavishness to Mahina Rajapaksa – the Don of the ‘Hora Kalliya’. DJ is fast becoming the doyen of the ‘Hora Kalliya’.

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      This is what i ALSO felt immediately I read Wiggie’s article. DJ has been collecting food for thoughts to depict in favour of anti-regime clan. No matter impact of his statement could lead to further divisions between communities, he just intends to get drawn media’s attention.

      It seems that DJ needs media attraction more than he needs food to survive. This kind of syndromes are becoming more clear to the nation these days. These men like Mr Depitakattu would do any low level job to belong to the books of MR – otherwise, they would be marginalized in the soceity which is being processed right at the moment.

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    The definition of a “Nation” is: a large aggregate of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory.

    Based on this there are not one, not two, not three but four nations – Sinhalese, Tamils, Muslims and Vaddas in Sri Lanka.

    Even if we read Sinhala chronicles we find there were “Thun Sinhala”. Does it matter how many Nations are there. What is important is we all are Sri Lankans today. If Dayan wants to contest the counting of the Nations then he should wear a “Amude” and go back to ancient times.

    There should be a limit to Dayan’s stupidity!

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      Even with your own definition, only one nation exists..

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    Smart Patriot Dr.DJ,
    Where is your critical analysis on Mother Lanka ‘ s elected President Maithripala Srisena’ s speech in Jaffna ? Why you are not focusing on that ? Why you keep running down CM Wigneswaran who was also elected by the northern people ? You fail to realise that by the interaction between the President and the CM the democracy has begun to play it’s role.

    Why after 9th Jan , you always portray President MS of Mother Lanka as a mere puppet of Ranil and Chandrika ?

    What do you think of Sajin Vas’ s sincere advise to MR to stay away from politics for few years ?
    Why GR reacted badly to Sajin Vas’ s advise to MR ?

    The bottom line of all your writeups is ,you want MR and his regime to come back to rule the country at any cost. In short you are not worried about the country going forward. You pretend that you are a Smart Patriot par excellence.

    You can not fool all the citizens all the time. The citizens voted and made the change on the 8th January. Do you have any plans to stay away from political analysis for few years ?

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    Tamils are Tamils and Sinhalese are Sinhalese. But these two people can live together without the Tamils becoming Sinhalese and vice versa. It is simply this concept that CVW referred to as ‘two nations but one country’ what is wrong in that?

    Sengodan. M

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      Because it is very wrong.

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        Can you say HOW it is wrong? Do you want all the Tamils to become Sinhalese over time? Got Sinhala chauvinists like you, Tamils should either get assimilated among the Sinhalese are remain subordinate to them as second class citizens! That is the root cause of the ethnic problem in the country!

        Sengodan. M

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          Did I mean anything like that?

          What I said was just because two communities live in SL it doesnt make the two communities two nations.

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            sach

            “What I said was just because two communities live in SL it doesnt make the two communities two nations.”

            Could it also mean six nations or zero nation.

            1 X 2 = 2

            1 X 0 = 0

            Synergy 1 + 1 = 3 or more

            Please explain which of the above did you apply to arrive at the greatest mathematical solution after Fermet’s Last Theorem.

            How many times did you lift your bum over your head before you solved the greatest mathematical challenge.

            Did Srinivasa Ramanujan also help you with your solutions in your dreams?

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    “One may well ask “what is wrong in the claim of Tamil nationhood?” Probably nothing, except for the fact that the claim is made here in Sri Lanka” Says DJ.
    But here is what the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy refers to about the term “nation” .

    “It is traditional, therefore, to distinguish nations from states – whereas a nation often consists of an ethnic or cultural community, a state is a political entity with a high degree of sovereignty. While many states are nations in some sense, there are many nations which are not fully sovereign states. As an example, the Native American Iroquois constitute a nation but not a state, since they do not possess the requisite political authority over their internal or external affairs. If the members of the Iroquois nation were to strive to form a sovereign state in the effort to preserve their identity as a people, they would be exhibiting a state-focused nationalism”.

    So the Tamils can claim to be a nation. The issue is when they use the claim to argue for a separate State. In European history the nation state came to be formed which included several different ethnic communities. The UN has not recognized that every nation should have a separate State. So even if the Tamils claim to be a nation there is no ipso facto right to a separate State.

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      Thank you, RMB. The present position is for the Tamils to claim recognition as a Nation within an undivided Island. This is nothing new. It is only a restoration of the Status Quo. They have all the features laid down by the UN for this recognition. It is time for the Sinhala South to unite in the issue and accept this reality. The matter must be set right before we risk a further, and perhaps a more complicated, conflagration.

      Kettikaran

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      R M B:

      There is a difference between the terms nation, state, and country, even though the words are often used interchangeably. Country and State are synonymous terms that both apply to self-governing political entities. A nation, however, is a group of people who share the same culture but do not have sovereignty.

      With reference to the above I wish to correct you on your following incorrect assumption.

      “The UN has not recognized that every nation should have a separate State. So even if the Tamils claim to be a nation there is no ipso facto right to a separate State”

      The answer lies in the following:

      The recognition of a new State or Government is an act that only other States and Governments may grant or withhold. It generally implies readiness to assume diplomatic relations. The United Nations is neither a State nor a Government, and therefore does not possess any authority to recognize either a State or a Government. As an organization of independent States, it may admit a new State to its membership or accept the credentials of the representatives of a new Government.

      So if the Tamils are justified in claiming a Separate either as a Right of out of Necessity it will be up to other States to sanction the creation. There are many examples. For example when Bangladesh was created by India there was an initial reluctance but once India recognised it others followed suit.

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      RMB

      I am waiting for a response from you for my comment either an admission of error or a statement of rebuttal to the following.

      “So if the Tamils are justified in claiming a Separate State either as of Right or out of Necessity it will be up to other States to sanction the creation. There are many examples. For example when Bangladesh was created by India there was an initial reluctance but once India recognised it others followed suit.

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    Have we now seen more than 400 resolutions? I lost count a long time ago. Seems like there is a NPC or TNA resolution every day.

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      Northern Dissident

      “Have we now seen more than 400 resolutions? I lost count a long time ago.”

      More the better.

      Let them fight, armed with resolution rather than killing each other with AK 47.

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      Well you people Love narcissists don’t you? remember prabha?

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    Two nations – why are you against a Sinhala Nation? Seems like a good idea.

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      Sinhala people never asked for a Sinhala nation. The only talk about a SInhala nation came from tamils..and we know why…

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    Dyan the Taunted:

    There was a time you used to Taunt us but the TAUNTER is being TAUNTED. The table has been turned how wonderful. The PAIN is obvious from the Frequency of your lamentable Articles.

    Let me comment on some of your rubbish.

    1) It became known as the Two Nation theory. That was the basis on which Jinnah fought for and obtained the partition of India and Pakistan, with all the carnage that entailed. The two nation theory thus became a dirty word in neighboring India.

    *** If Jinnah hadn’t created Pakistan there would have been more bloodshed on an unimaginable scale.

    2) Chief Minister CV (“Genocide Judge”) Wigneswaran has just enunciated it in the presence of President Maithripala Sirisena on the latter’s first post-election visit to Jaffna.

    *** We should give you credit for first of all admitting there was Genocide and secondly elevating the Eminent Judge to preside over it.

    3) “Inasmuch as it is the inalienable right of every nation to enjoy full political freedom without which its spiritual, cultural and moral stature must degenerate and inasmuch as the Tamil speaking people in Ceylon constitute a nation distinct from that of the Sinhalese by every fundamental test of nationhood, firstly that of a historical past in this Island (which is) at least as ancient and as glorious as that of the Sinhalese, secondly by the fact of their being a linguistic entity entirely different from that of the Sinhalese, with an unsurpassed classical heritage and a modern development of language which makes Tamil fully adequate for all present day needs, and finally, by reason of their territorial habitation of definite areas which constitute over one third of this Island.

    *** So what happened to your previous theory of only the Sinhala Nation and no Tamil Kingdom. I take it that you have just remembered such a historic fact.

    4) The Tamils of Ceylon, by virtue of their great language, their religions, their separate culture and heritage, their history of independent existence as a separate state over a distinct territory for several centuries are a nation distinct and apart from the Sinhalese and their constitution, announces to the world that the Republican Constitution of 1972 has made the Tamils a slave nation ruled by the new colonial masters, the Sinhalese, who are using the power they have wrongly usurped to deprive the Tamil nation of its territory, language, citizenship, economic life, opportunities of employment and education and thereby destroying all the attributes of nationhood of the Tamil people.

    *** On the 8th January we reclaimed our Land.

    5) If one is to understand Tamil politics, the North-South dialectics and the contemporary history of Sri Lanka, one must recognize that the Tamil Maha Sabhai was formed over a decade before SWRD Bandaranaike formed the Sinhala Maha Sabha in the 1930s and that the Tamil claim of a separate, distinct nationhood and the right of self-determination, preceded what liberals have touted as the Original Sin, namely Sinhala Only.

    *** But we fell foul of our Tamil ancestors who instead of having the same vision as Jinnah wined and dined with the colonial masters ( British) and sold us for tuppence and look where we have ended up. In the Sinhlala Gutter.

    6) It has far higher aims in view, namely to keep alive and propagate these precious ideals throughout Ceylon, Southern India and the Tamil Colonies, to promote the union and solidarity of Tamilakam, the Tamil Land. We should keep alive and propagate these ideals throughout Ceylon and promote the union and solidarity of what we have been proud to call Tamil Eelam.”

    *** My friend Anda Paramparai Meentrum oru Murai Ala Ninaipathil Enna Kurai”. We ruled from Imayam to Kumari.

    7) The historical record clearly demonstrates that Sinhala nationalism has always been reactive and one may argue, defensive, while Tamil nationalism has been initiatory, escalatory and politically proactive, even aggressively assertive.

    *** You are wrong it is the reverse. Tamil Nationalism was a reaction to Simnhala Nationalism. Don’t distort facts.

    8) Chief Minister Wigneswaran is thus well within the Tamil political and ideological tradition, but he is clearly stepping up the pace.

    *** You are right. Just like the Hambanthotta THUG who stepped up Colonisation until 8th January.

    9) One may well ask “what is wrong in the claim of Tamil nationhood?” Probably nothing, except for the fact that the claim is made here in Sri Lanka. The Tamils may or may not be a nation, but if they are, it would be in Tamil Nadu, not in Sri Lanka.

    *** You are back to your old tricks. Have you forgotten the war between Ellalan and Gemunu. So your theory falls by the wayside.

    10)However, in Tamil Nadu they haven’t raised the slogan of a distinct, separate nationhood for decades now.

    *** Because unlike you lot India recognises separate rule. Divided we STAND United we FALL.

    11) In Sri Lanka, where one ethnic community amounts to almost three fourths of the population, only it can be regarded as a nation. .

    *** It is not a numbers game.

    12) As individual citizens the Tamils must enjoy rights equal to that of the Sinhalese.

    *** But only under a Tamil Jurisdiction.

    13) However, as political collectivities, as political communities, the Tamils do not and cannot have an equal status as the Sinhalese, not because one is superior to the other but simply because of the island’s demographic realities.

    *** Finally you have proved why the Tamils cannot and will not be ruled by an Inferior Race.

    14) Chief Minister Wigneswaran made clear that in his view and that of the Tamil nationalist mainstream, the political solution to the Tamil Question is not and has never been the full implementation of the 13th amendment which issued from the Indo-Lanka Accord.

    *** He is damn right. 13th Amendment is just a start.

    15) What then is the solution to the conundrum? The Tamils of Sri Lanka, and indeed every citizen and community, must have institutional guarantees against discrimination of any and all forms. Constitutional amendments, laws and regulations must be brought in to ensure this. A powerful anti-discrimination Ombudsperson could be appointed. Something akin to the old Race Relations Board in the UK could be created.

    *** We will never again trust you to be in charge of our security. We must be the masters of our own destiny. We cant have Sinhala Soldiers roaming the Streets of Eelam terrorising looting and Raping.

    NO MORE TAMIL BLOOD.

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      Kali
      You should be writing for CT..not just under comments..
      You have such insights.
      Love you
      Usha

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        Hi Usha

        Point taken and love you too.
        I would have done but didn’t want to end up like Lasantha. But we have turned the corner and I might take your advice.

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    Reading all the comments it is obvious that however much the Sinhalese try to have condone, Tamil are working for a different agenda. I for a genuine Sinhalese believe that Tamil like any other citizen in the country should be given equal status in all affairs in the country. When a Tamil CJ was appointed I was very happy. I also believe that Tamils should be given the rights to manage their own affairs in their areas. However land powers should remain in the control of the central government. I was against the previous government on the issue of how they are dealing with the Northern question. I believed that proper delegation of power to the province under the 13 amendment must be regularized. However it appears when the Northern Tamil feel with the present government there is a likelyhood of getting 13 amendment stated devaluation therefore they now demand for more!!! This is really a bad proceedings as they will make the genuine Sinhaless also to think twice of the Tamil plan.
    I for one strongly believe that Tamils must get whatever the provision needed by law to live in a united country as any other citizen with same privileges given to all other citizens but I will never allow nor support any government/ international community or any other organization to divined this country on ethnic line where the minority Tamils are just under 18% of the population. If we do that again we are going to make life harder for generations to come in this island nation therefore best option is to have reconciliation in an equal footing not yearn for separatism as separatism want give any benefit for either ethnicity. Should that happen we will be like India and Pakistan eternal enemies forever.
    We as a nation had suffered enough, We have fought separatism for 30 years and protected the nation’s unity with tremendous sacrifices. What we have not given by war will not be given for any form of pressure no matter it is Tamils all over the world or any other international organization . Do not push the genuine Sinhales also to concur the idealism of the extremist Sinhalees elements.

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      Most of the tamil grievances which were genuine were handled by many amendments to the constitution. 13,15 and 16 amendments handled them. Therefore in later years tamil politicians like Ponnambalam changed the tune and instead of grievances these people started talking about aspirations.

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      Great you have articlulated spot on. Why cant they devolve power into provinces as it is the case in Germany, switzerland and other countries that practise federalism and the like systems. Almost everywhere they have those system govern the nation with people#s satifaction. Just to show billas only to survive politically, former Regime only made it worst acutally. Even today the opposition being supportive to former Prez move on his thoughts. I as sinhalaese would be longing to see we the all srilanken regardless of race religiion or what ever other parameters to be blessed to live peaceful in this island. We are all the same. Though we have all kind of banners to name us different. Jaya nisyathi if the current regime would be given the chance to introduce due amendement to creat a society where law and order is equal to us all.

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        Supun Jayawardhane,

        I do not for one second doubt your sincerity. The Tamils are not at all worried about the likes of you. We have witnessed as to how politicians manipulated Sinhala Buddhist nationalism for political expediency; there is no guarantee that such unsavoury events will not be repeated. This is why the Tamils are keen to safeguard themselves with a solution that is future-proof. A solution that cannot be used as a political football by future unscrupulous politicians. I hope you understand the predicament of the Tamils.

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      Shaan Fernando:

      A Tamil CJ.It is too little too late. So you would like us to be equals but in a vacuum without power. You have a very short memory. Can you try and stretch your memory back to another 30 years and analyse why the fight for Freedom lasting 30 years was fought.
      You Genuinly expect us to believe that you are sincere in what you say.

      What we have not given by war will not be given for any form of pressure no matter it is Tamils all over the world or any other international organization . Do not push the genuine Sinhales also to concur the idealism of the extremist Sinhalees elements.

      *** When Sanctions begin to bite and you start going round with Pitchai Pathiram attitudes will change. Don’t worry.

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        Hey Kali,
        Don’t threaten us or our nation because we will give you and your ‘sanctions’ masters the worst Vietnam experience which will bite you and your future generations. This is just ‘friendly advice’.

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          Jazz;

          Beggars cant be choosers. I dont need any advice but it is you lot.

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            Kali,
            My advice comes free of charge. You can take it or leave it. So, roll your dice and take your chances. It has not worked for 30 years for you and your ilk. You guys are classic ‘dead enders’ because you are beyond rehabilitation.

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              Jazz

              You guys are classic ‘dead enders’ because you are beyond rehabilitation.

              I agree with you on the first point. We have been at a dead end for the Last 67 years.
              Now with powerful Diaspora we have put in a Cul De Sac ( Dead End). Got it you fool.

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                Jazz

                The last paragraph should have read

                Now with the Powerful Diaspora we have put you in a Cul De Sac ( Dead End) Got it you fool.

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                  Kali,
                  I knew that if I knocked on the timber hard enough, the Eelam termites would get agitated and crawl out. So, keep crawling because you are heading in the right direction. LOL.

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                    well the woodworms are holding hands to stop the failed state from crumbling to the seepage. keep on fatality.

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                    Jazz you LOL

                    You are right.We are crawling to FREEDOM. Just listen to UN Chief he has confirmed it. You are in a Cul De Sac. You are trapped.

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                      kali,
                      Good luck with that. Let’s have this talk in another 100 years to check how far you have crawled to your destination. It was always a bad dream kali… one day you will realize it… free yourself from that bad dream.

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    My dear Kali,
    If Sanctions comes !!! I am sure you are not living in Sri Lanka and living abroad. Your type of people are the once who don’t want this issue be resolved. As for you guys this is just another horse race you bet from a side and watch what happen you never run the distance. You were the exact type of people who were supporting the Terrorism. Funded LTTE and was watching it from a distance. As a result of funding see what had happen. Yes all were destroyed while you were watching from a distence island went back 50 year in economy. All that said who lost the most? It was the Tamils. As a result of the war Tamil who were 20% went out of the country now the total of Tamils including the upcountry Tamils are only 18% ( northern Tamils are less than 15%) Of those who stayed in SL, LTTE took control of the youth. They were deprived of good education by the LTTE as a result now the Tamil Population is not that educated as they used to be in the past.
    Is it a good thing for you to know that Tamil in Sri Lanka were deprived of all their facilities for a generation now. Should they not be given a decent chance to catch up? Think about it. For you who is in another country it is a Nation dream to say we created Eelam but for Tamils living in Sri Lanka and for other Sinhalese like me it is our living hood so we don’t joke with that we will fight like any other nations would do in any part of the world when their nation’s security is threatened.
    When any Tamil politician talk to reconcile you guys put pressure on them burn their effigy so on and so forth. My dear friend if Sanction comes it is going to be hard but remember the Tamils who are also in the island going to suffer as same as the rest.
    That is what I said sanction or otherwise we will not give in that is guarantee as a Nation we will get support from so called East block/nurk nations you name it . do what we have to do but we will survive if it comes to that and we will never give in to such demand to fulfill your dreams NEVER.

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      Dear Shaan Fernando,

      Spot on comment but need to correct you on the National percentages.

      Lanka Tamils are 11.146%
      Indian Tamils are 4.123%
      Total Tamils 15.269%
      Over half that Tamil population lives with the Sinhalese.

      Sometimes Sanctions might be a God send since then we will have a drastically reduced market for tea and the Plantations will get converted back to Food crops instead of a cash crop.

      The loss of livelihood for Indian Tamils can be prevented by employing them in food production. We will again be self sufficient in Food and food security will get established once again.

      In the case of rubber the same thing will happen but we will then revert to value addition of Rubber rather than exporting raw rubber. Excess Land will get reverted to food production.

      The EU will stop buying our fish and the hardest hit would be the Northern Tamils whose only market would remain the South but that will be saturated by the Southern fisherman’s produce.

      We will not have the western style luxuries but we will have Food for the masses in abundance.

      Separatists like Kali would not care about the Tamils of Lanka. They did not care for the 100,000 plus Tamil children that Prabahkaran used as cannon fodder over the years. They have not demanded for Justice on behalf of those children or their parents or their siblings. The Murderess who recruited, trained and commissioned that Baby Brigade is living in the UK. NOT ONE of the separatists organisations or Wigneswaran’s NPC govt has raised their voices to bring that criminal to Justice. She is easily accessible and is living right under their noses. A mountain of evidence is available but the PIN DROP SILENCE is telling.

      Fools like Kali, Usha S, Brian S and Rudrakumaran, Fr Emanuel, Rev Rayappu etc are counting on the sanctions but they forget that SL is endowed with natural resources that few countries can match. They forget that in adversity people unite and that necessity is the mother of invention.

      Kind Regards,
      OTC

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