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Two State Solution – Tamil And Sinhala People

By Visuvanathan Rudrakumaran

Two State Solution Eminently Compatible With Interests Of Tamil And Sinhala People!

Visuvanathan Rudrakumaran

New Year should be critical year of changes in the freedom struggle!

Sri Lanka to be isolated further in the international arena!

Just as the world is welcoming with hope and aspiration the dawn of the New Year of 2013, it gives me immense pleasure to extend my New Year wishes to the people of Tamil Eelam, those in Tamil Nadu and indeed all Tamils living across the globe.

In my New Year message a year ago, I stated that 2012 would turn out to be an important year for all of us.

The year 2012 did in fact emerge as the year in which the Government of Sri Lanka began to encounter challenges and pressures in the international arena.

The US led resolution pertaining to Sri Lanka that was passed at the UN Human Rights Council in Geneva in March 2012 with the support of India was described by many as the first major political and diplomatic setback for Sri Lanka in the international arena since May 2009.  Despite being so far from meeting our expectations, this resolution has pushed Sri Lanka to the centre of international attention in terms of accountability for all of its crimes.

I also stated in 2012 that it was important for our people in the homeland to undertake direct political action, and I assured that the Transnational Government of Tamil Eelam (TGTE) was committed to act in the international arena in solidarity with those in the homeland. It heartens us all to note that such direct political actions have been spearheaded in our homeland in 2012.

It is our earnest desire that 2013 also becomes a critical year of changes in the struggle of the Eelam Tamil Nation.

We should take effective measures this year in terms of isolating Sri Lanka further in the international arena.

The struggle by the people in the homeland against the genocidal actions of the Sinhala State should be intensified this year.

It is unavoidable that this year will also refresh in our collective memory the tragedy of thirty years ago in the form of the pogrom of July 1983. The July 1983 pogrom and the May 2009 genocide in Mullivaaikaal stand as stark and bloody reminders of the fact that the Tamil Nation can never live together with the aggressive Sinhala forces.

So it behooves us in TGTE to galvanize the support of the international community for a two state solution as the only option for the national conflict in the island of Sri Lanka and this will be our main political program for 2013.

I wish to reiterate on this New Year day the same message I gave out on the 2002 Martyrs Day, namely, that the two state solution will be eminently compatible with the interests of the international States, and one that will be conducive to the interests of the Sinhala people also.

The only resolution to the people of Tamil Eelam, who are a Nation that is subject to genocide by the Sinhala State, would be the establishment of an independent and sovereign state of Tamil Eelam in order to protect their physical survival. They are entitled to this through the realization of the right to self determination on the basis of being a people, and on the basis of remedial rights due to them under international law.

Such a two state solution is not at all contrary to the interests of the West, India or any other State. It is in fact compatible with the interests of all those States.

In this connection, it is important to recognize that the Sinhala State is deeply entrenched as a unitary state and is in no mood for considering any kind of reforms. Any proposals for power sharing and decentralization only remain in the realms of fantasy and are no more than just waste of time.

The two state solution has the potential to make way for the Tamil people to live as friendly neighbors with the Sinhala people. But successive rulers in Sri Lanka, through the use of a virulent form of racism, have continued to obtain the support of the Sinhala masses for their anti-democratic actions against the Tamils. In their efforts to subjugate the Tamils, the Sinhala rulers are oppressive of the democratic rights of the Sinhala people as well. It is time that the Sinhala people realized that their support for Sinhala regimes that continue aggression and genocidal actions against the Tamil people amounts to placing shackles on themselves. This is amply demonstrated by the blatant violation of democratic rights of Sinhala people by the Mahinda Rajapaksa regime today. Until the Sinhala nation realizes that a resolution of the national question requires the recognition of the Eelam Tamil people as a nation, the Sinhala people will not be liberated.

With the aims of strengthening the justifications for the two state solution, mobilizing the Tamils around the globe towards building up the soft power of the Eelam Tamil Nation, and formulating the strategies of the Tamil Eelam struggle in juxtaposition with the evolving geopolitical situation in the Indian ocean, the TGTE is organizing an international conference in the US on May 9-11, 2013. It gives me great pleasure to state that the ‘Tamil Eelam Freedom Charter’ will also be promulgated at this conference pursuant to the resolution passed in the TGTE’s 4th Parliamentary Sessions held recently in London, UK.

I am also pleased to announce that, as a way of intensifying the political dialogue between our government and the people, we will launch an open telephone line on 14 January, 2013, with the international dial-in number +1 (212) 537-4054.

Let us move forward unceasingly in our action with the determination that the New Year will enable us to take effective moves in our journey towards liberation!

The Thirst of Tamils is Tamil Eelam.

*Visuvanathan Rudrakumaran, Prime Minister, TGTE

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    Visuvanathan Rudrakumaran says:

    “it gives me immense pleasure to extend my New Year wishes to the people of Tamil Eelam”

    Where is this piece of Tamil Eelam. Perhaps

    An Utopia for which over 100,000 people had been killed yet he seems unhappy and wishes 100,000 or more people to die.

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      Rudrakumaran self styled leader of empty rhetoric should get real and stop undermining the Tamils in Sri Lanka by talking non-sense from miles away..
      Why has this big-mouth, grandstanding Rudrakumaran NOT filed a war crimes case against Gotabaya Rajapkse the white van goon in the United States where he is a citizen and can be held accountable for the murder of Tamil civilians?

      Rudrakumaran has NOT done anything CONSTRUCTIVE FOR TAMILS OF LANKA! He simply lives comfortably overseas while marketing the misery of Tamils in Lanka. He uses empty Tamil nationalist rhetoric and raising huge funds from the diaspora (as did Prabakaran who helped Mahinda Rajapakse destroy Tamisl) to live a grand life in a foreign country while making matters worse and further impoverishing the suffering Tamils living in Lanka today!

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        I think this aspect was answered by the Legal Team. It is MR
        first and if all actions fail, GR will be next. This a logical
        way to proceed.

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          What a bunch of bunk! Any donkey knows that the head of state has immunity while in power and hence it is the second murderer who is his brother who should be tried.
          What an idiotic statement which show a total LACK OF STRATEGIC THINKING and the fact that this Rudrakumaran is a real ASS who is using and MARKETING the suffering of Tamils in Sri Lanka to collect funds and live the good life overseas!

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    The minority communities of Sri Lanka are in this terrible mess because of your foolish stand. You are responsible for chasing Muslims from Jaffna, killing the Tamil and Muslim intellectuals and innocent civilians of all three communities and supporting the psychopath prabagaran. You have now given birth to a ruthless Sinhala praba who is nourished by the e.p.d.p. But you buggers live in luxury shouting from time to time.

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    Prime minister Rudrakumaran,

    If Tamils want a separate country it must be based on Tamil Nad which is the Tamil homeland. We all support that idea if that is what Tamils want. The problem is first you have to convince 80 million Tamils in Tamil Nad that they want a separate country out of India. India may not allow it as Tamil Nad is only 5% of Indian land and people.

    Since Sri Lanka ia a scrambled egg of Tamils, Sinhala and Muslim, there is no room for a Tamil homeland. The best they can do is empower people at village-level, based on village units demarcated on ecological basis. The river basin-based boundary units are the most pragmatic and these units can end up as seven major river basins in Sri Lanka.

    These units will be based on language-blind admin units and from village level up local people will be empowered to run their local affairs. This is how Tamils can have their private and public aspirations reached.

    Any other plan will not work in Sri Lanka and you can die with your PM title following either SJV Chelvanayagam or his inheritor of separatist legacy Prabakaran.

    Because SL is an island there is no way you can promote your separatist plan as long as there are Sinhala soldiers who will fight to protect their motherland. Your problem will be convincing non-Tamil speaking Tamils in your voting list to go to SL to fight the Eelam war of liberation. After the old expat Tamil crowd dies you will be in big touble in hiring people for your army. The west will use you, but west will not provide an army.

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      Wijeyawickrema

      Contrary to what you believe, the Tamils all over the world (including Tamil Nadu) have a totally different belief. They believe that Eelam is the original Tamil land.

      ‘From the very ancient time, Lanka (as first mentioned in the Ramayana) was a part of South India. The ancient Tamil was born on the sacred earth a part of which is now called Sri Lanka. What is Sri Lanka now is part of the lost landmass of Kumari kandam (Lemuria) that went under a massive quake of the sea in times long past. The first Sangam was held in this land. It is believed that God Siva attended the first Sangam. The Island of Sri Lanka was not a Buddhist island but a Siva Bhoomi – the Land of Siva right from the beginning. All the ancient rulers of Sri Lanka were Saivaites irrespective of whether they were Naga or Damila (Chola) or Pandu (Pandya). It was only recently the Sinhalese started calling Sri Lanka as the Dhamma Deepa of Buddha after the Buddhist missionary monk Mahinda introduced Buddhism where as we Tamils still call it the sacred land of Siva. Even the footstep at Adams Peak is originally known as Siva’s and NOT Buddha’s.’

      The Sinhalese scholar and historian, Dr. Paul E. Pieris has strengthened this Siva-Bhumi belief among the Tamils by saying,
      `… long before the arrival of Vijaya, there were five Eeswarams of Siva in Sri Lanka, Thiruketheeswaram near Mahathitha, Munneswaram dominating Salamatte (Chillaw), pearl fishery Thondeswaram near Dondra or Thevanthurai Thirukoneswaram near the great Bay of Kottiyar (Trincomalee) and Naguleswaram near Kankesanturai`.

      You believe that Tamil Nadu should be the Tamil country but the Tamils around the world and very specially the Tamils in Tamil Nadu believes that Eelam should be the Tamil country.

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        A Messenger

        ” They believe that Eelam is the original Tamil land.”

        So do the Sinhalese which confirms both the Sinhalese and Tamils are not only genetically related (by Common M20 marker)but also irredeemably stupid.

        “The Island of Sri Lanka was not a Buddhist island but a Siva Bhoomi – the Land of Siva right from the beginning.”

        I was told God Siva owns and occupies Mount Kailas. When did he relocate to Sri Lanka?

        We were not informed of this and I suspect he must be the original land grabber.

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        You must have courage to tell at least what is your real name.

        1. Do you know this Tamil homeland was tested in several places; Malaysia, Fiji Island and even in Tamil Nad and failed? SJV Chelvanayagam was chased out of Malaysia and started separatist plan in Ceylon. In Fiji Tamils were murdered for trying to be funny.

        2. In Ceylon Malaria mosquito prevented Tamil settlements that the Dutch and the British were trying to create to fill the empty lands.

        3. Sinhala is a language so different from Tamil languages. A famous linguist consider it a miracle that Sinhala survived in an ocean of Tamil.

        4. Who cares about your Siva Lingum during lemuria. Tamil historian Nila Kanta Sastri said that King Vijayabahu I prevented Sri Lanka becoming part of Tamil Nad meaning always there was the difference between Tamil Nad and Sri Lanka as separate political units.

        5. After the death of now over 50 years old Tamil expats there will be no Tamil PM in New York or London as the new Tamil generation cannot speak Tamil and not accept Siva Lingum as an object suitable for worship like the Christian Cross.

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          C. Wijeyawickrema

          1. Just as the Sinhalese Vija and his thugs the Tamils too came to my ancestral island looking for greener pastures or seeking asylum. Tamils went one step further and sought asylum in many parts of the world including Australia where my cousins first lost their land to Sudda and recently to Sinhalese/Tamil economic and bogus political asylum seekers.

          In addition Tamils began migrating to all parts of the world due to Sinhala/Buddhist racism since 1948.

          You say:

          “SJV Chelvanayagam was chased out of Malaysia and started separatist plan in Ceylon.”

          This is a news for me. Why didn’t you stop him at the Colombo harbour and deport him back to Malaysia? I didn’t know this otherwise I would have campaign for his removal from my ancestral land.

          Mind you if my campaign was successful you too would have been forced to leave my ancestral land. Now he is no more you are still here I shall campaign to remove you from this island and send back to India.

          2. Good point, Nalin and Kamalika together with SPUR istas have put a lot of rubbish in your head. I am confident you will remain a stupid for rest of your life. I thank Nalin and Kamalika helping my cause.

          3. Sinhala is not a language it is soup, a bit from Pali, Sanskrit, Tamil, Portuguese, Dutch, English, Elu, bit of Vedda language and many other languages which vanished over many centuries due to the arrival of Kallathonies from South and North India.

          Also many famous Sinhala linguist noted that Sinhala grammar is based on Vira Choliam, a Tamil Treatise.

          You say:

          “Nila Kanta Sastri said that King Vijayabahu I prevented Sri Lanka becoming part of Tamil Nad”

          What Nila Kanda Sastri didn’t know at the time was about the latest development in DNA studies. Now that we have five studies available to us we know these Sinhalese were and are closely related to the Tamils of Tamilnadu. That is one reason why Tamilnadu Tamils, Sri Lankan Tamils and Sinhalese are extremely stupid.

          5. I leave this to the future generation to chose.

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            If you come out of closet with your real name which Colombo Telegraph can verify, I will not respond to you. Your are abusing the privilege given to you free by Colombo Telegraph. Shame on you!!!

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              C. Wijeyawickrema:

              Mind you you didn’t give me the freedom to express my views in this forum. You should be happy that that CT has given you the freedom to express your outdated bigoted rants in this immensely site.

              I salute CT for their honest approach which allow me to express my fears real or otherwise and my silly comments. I am also grateful to them.

              I also appreciate their effort to bring truth out in the open.

              “If you come out of closet with your real name which Colombo Telegraph can verify, I will not respond to you.”

              Thanks for not responding to my comment however I will definitely comment on your comments. It is known as freedom of speech which does not exist in the island.

              “Shame on you!”

              Why?

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              C.Wijeyawickrema,

              Why do you feel shy and emberrased to hear the truth. Is it because of your so called high calss unspoilt, high civilised culture and uncontaminated Sinhala blood….Please don’t be that naive to listen to our crazy Sinhala Politicians who manupulate our history for their political gain.

              Please visit Google and type “Sri Wickrema Rajasinghe”….or Sri Lanka….Ceylon…etc.. and see who ruled us in Kandy right throughout history and our history. Also visit kandy and see how some of the people still talk a language similar to Tamil. Also visit Negombo, Chilaw, Puttlam and hear thair language.

              Don’t be naive to know that we Sinhalese are supreme…but are a Mixed Grill….beginning from LATA…which is Bangladesh, Madras, Goa, Bangolore, Kerala,….end everything. Where did Indiappam, puttu, roti, Appam….etc..coming from….other than those places. Also their music, dress and religion.

              What do you think when Portuguese, dutch and British did when they first landed…..Did they bring their wives……other than occupied our Kings Herams. Ask from Mervin Silva. He knows best.
              later only the top officials of British Generals and planters brought their wives. Nobody else.

              We should be thankful for British for occupying Sri Lanka, as otherwise we could have still been ruled by Indian Kings.

              Please let me have your version of our history.

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            A Good one.

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          C. Wijeyawickrema,

          I am only a messenger but I was told that the majority of Sri Lankans are “FOOLS” who kill even the messenger. If you want my real name you can ask CT, they already know.

          1. Do you know this Tamil homeland was tested in several places; Malaysia, Fiji Island and even in Tamil Nad and failed?

          Throughout my entire life I have NEVER heard about this. A separate Tamil homeland being claimed in other countries other than Sri Lanka, In Tamil Nad once there was Annadurai who only suggested but nobody has ever claimed a separate Tamil state other than Eelam. Why don’t you give us some link to learn more about what you have said here?

          2. SJV Chelvanayagam was chased out of Malaysia and started separatist plan in Ceylon. In Fiji Tamils were murdered for trying to be funny.

          What I know is, SJV Chelvanayagam’s father who hails from Tellipalai, Jaffna was working in the Civil service in Malaysia. When he retired from service he returned to Sri Lanka with his family including SJV Chelvanayagam. Regarding your new story, can you give us some reliable link?

          3. In Ceylon Malaria mosquito prevented Tamil settlements that the Dutch and the British were trying to create to fill the empty lands.

          Is this your own story? Otherwise, please provide us with some academic evidence.

          4. Sinhala is a language so different from Tamil languages. A famous linguist consider it a miracle that Sinhala survived in an ocean of Tamil.

          This famous linguist must be a NUT case. Sinhala is nothing but Sanskrit, Pali, a little bit of Veddha language, Tamil, Malayalam, Portuguese, Dutch, English and so on. It is a mixture of North Indian, South Indian, and European.

          5. Who cares about your Siva Lingum during lemuria. Tamil historian Nila Kanta Sastri said that King Vijayabahu I prevented Sri Lanka becoming part of Tamil Nad meaning always there was the difference between Tamil Nad and Sri Lanka as separate political units.

          Nilakanta Sastri’s historical research was over 50 years old. According to historians/scholars in Tamil Nadu, Nilakanta Sastri’s Tamil proficiency was not good and he relied on others for understanding Tamil literary works. Thus he was not able to analyze the changing meaning of words over time. They say, the professional historiography in Tamil Nadu practiced during K. A. Nilakanta Sastri’s period there was rarely any interrogation of sources.(refer wikipedia about Nila Kanta Sastri).

          6. After the death of now over 50 years old Tamil expats there will be no Tamil PM in New York or London as the new Tamil generation cannot speak Tamil and not accept Siva Lingum as an object suitable for worship like the Christian Cross.

          The new Tamil generation in the west is highly educated, more knowledgeable on Tamil and International issues, and more influential in lobbying the western world. They are very well organized and doing a much better job than old ones. Only time will tell.

          Remember that during SJV Chelvanayagam’s time the Tamil issue was a Sri Lankan domestic issue but today it is an International issue. Tamils of the entire world (including Tamil Nad) wants a separate Tamil state ONLY in Eelam and NOT anywhere else because according to the very ancient history the Siva Bhoomi (holy Tamil land where the first Sangam took place) was the lost landmass of Kumari kandam (Lemuria) and its remaining part is what is called Lanka/Eelam (NOT Tamil Nad).

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            “Blah blah blah yadda yadda yadda the lost landmass of Kumari kandam (Lemuria) “

            LOL. Good to know these “Anzend demel homeland” claims are based on Atlantis-esque fairy tales. Next time can you put that bit right at the top so we don’t waste time reading the rest of your garbage :D

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              we sinhala people have annexed a few more territories as we desire to enlarge our little slum. we have annexed saudi arabia, dubai, kuwait, lebanon and parts of italy. our toilet cleaners and house maids are the inhabitants of the above territories.we have named the entire region as sinhala slum federation and unitary status is something we want to preserve at any cost. however, majority of our sinhala citizens are at a loss to understand what this slum unitary status is all about. sinhala monks i mean thugs and child molesters are also shouting at the top of their voice about slum unitary status. when asked what they are shouting about, they say unitary status means providing young boys and girls without any interruption. they say under federal set up this process may take longer and they just can’t give up this unitary status privilege. mahanaai-aks too agree with monks as they too are the beneficiaries. all in all slum unitary status will help the notorious sinhala rapists and child molesters. black monkey army including black chandrasiri and black fat slob hathurasinghe are all for slum unitary status.

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              Siva Sanakaran Menon

              Please ignore the following links as the information contained in the articles and video may harm your ignorance:

              Underwater investigations off Mahabalipuram, Tamil Nadu, India

              http://drs.nio.org/drs/bitstream/2264/316/1/Curr_Sci_86_1231.pdf

              The secret of the Seven Pagodas

              http://www.frontlineonnet.com/fl2210/stories/20050520005812900.htm

              Dwarka, India – 12,000 Year Old City of Lord Krishna Found – *Full*

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQZFS9Hij0M

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              Vedda, I know you struggle every day with your stupidity – now Google some links about Atlantis, Planet X and Xenu and come tell us all about how those are actual things as well :)

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              Oh boy Rama, those bleach fumes have really done a number on you eh. I told you to open the bathroom window before starting your day . But on the plus side I suppose you could try suing the council now for unsafe working conditions.

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      So true. Best place for this silly homeland is Tamil Nadu. My DIl is Tamil. But a very normal one, very clever, PHD and the works. She can go any where in the world and compete with any one , of any race and come out on top with flying colors ! Like many others too numerous to mention.
      People like you and ,those like Weerawansa,Pataliputra Ranawaka, have developed complexes ,inferior of course, even when you have to pass an exam ,you have to byheart a book.when you are given a job you fail miserably l.
      Those are the types that need separate little corners for your own. Because IN THE LAND OF THE BLIND, THE ONE EYED MAN IS KING,!
      Amongst all of us Muslims burghers, Malays, Tamils and Sinhalese, you can not compete. You are a joke. So keep trying.

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        P.B

        “Those are the types that need separate little corners for your own. Because IN THE LAND OF THE BLIND, THE ONE EYED MAN IS KING,!”

        We don’t need a separate little corners for us.

        We want our whole island back.

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        You Dii is PHD(actually PhD) and you say she can compete with any one!In which field?Can she compete with Steven Hawkings in Astro physics? or what?There are DsC degree holders and that is more than PhD.Did you know that?

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          All those qualifications make them misfits in the real world outside of university. It’s the IQ that counts not the literacy. In Sri Lanka 90% of the folk have an IQ below 60% while Shakespeare had 220 and Einstein had 170 because he had dyslexia and the world’s richest man Bill Gates left Harvard without a qualification as in fountainhead.

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    The Hon PM of Eelaam is adressing not only his loyal subjects World Wide, but also the Sinhala inhabitants of Srilanka in his New Year message.

    The PM’s kind and caring advice to the Sinhala inhabitants is get rid of Rajapaksa and help him to establish an “Independent real Eelaaam” in the former Tiger Land.

    And he recommends it as healthy for the Sinhala inhabitants.

    Wonder whether this PM is also an active member of the current” Get Rid of Rajapaksa “mass movement headed by our CJ and her loyaliss JVPers, Hultsdorph Black coat herd,Sara Forum, Friday Forum, myriad of NGOs and even some UN heavies?.

    He says in his progress report that most of his 2012 targets such as mobilization of masses and destabilazion by his local inhabitant supporters were met.

    One would think perhaps what he refers to here are the FUTA, Strike, Jaffna Campus attempted Strike,under TNA heavies like Prema ,and the mother of all current CJ & Hultsdorph Strike,

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    The sooner the Sinahala South, the power structure of which is now in the firm grip of the extended Rajapakse Family, must take serious note of VR’s complaint “Any proposals for power sharing and decentralization only remain in the realms of fantasy and are no more than just waste of time” It is upto them prove there is much space still to negate this line of thought and move towards a resolution to the National Question on terms acceptable to both sides.

    Much water has flown since 2002 VR refers to. The apprehensions of the Sinhala people, whether real or imaginary, also must be taken into account. Even the TNA, bearing sufficient validity to speak for the Tamil Nation, now is ready for a solution on the basis of an undivided island.

    As I suggested in several fora recently, the formulae of 2 Nations in one undivided country is gathering momentum. There is still room to avoid this. That is in allowing the people of the Northern Province to meaningfully and democratically chose their representatives to local governance by giving them free PC elections – without intimidation or interference from the Army or the State’s gun-toting proxies. Both exercised their State-inspired muscle in the last few elections in Jaffna but were frustrated by the people’s determined voice against armed thuggery.

    The same must follow in the Eastern Province where earlier elections to chose the EPPC were shams.

    Senguttuvan

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      Term “undivided island” is ridiculous.

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      “Even the TNA, bearing sufficient validity to speak for the Tamil Nation, now is ready for a solution on the basis of an undivided island.”

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      How kind of them to agree to an “undivided country” considering the apprehensions of Sinhala people whether “real” or “imaginary”.

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      Why only 2 Nations? What about a Muslim Nation, a Burger Nation, a Nation for Tamils of Indian origin and so on? How much of Eastern Province are you willing to cede to Muslims — I bet none! Does Willpaththu and other jungles near N & E border also belong to Tamil Nation?

      While Rudra is talking about Tamil thirst for an independent country taking away a disproportionate share of resources for a small group of people, while we have likes of you who support his project whole heartedly, you still have the audacity to call Sinhalese apprehensions imaginary!

      These articles and (comments too as suggested by Dr. RN) should be translated and surveyed in main stream Sinhala media. Then Sinhala people will realize what they are up against and who is who.

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        Navin

        “Why only 2 Nations? What about a Muslim Nation, a Burger Nation, a Nation for Tamils of Indian origin and so on?”

        Why not one nation, a Vedda Nation.

        Send the rest of them back to where they belong, perhaps North South India, Pakistan or South West Iran.

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          Tamil Native Veddha:

          You should ask that question from ISS. He says Veddhas don’t qualify according to UN.

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            Navin:

            “You should ask that question from ISS. He says Veddhas don’t qualify according to UN.”

            It is a matter for us to resolve between us amicably. We conduct a fruitful and long term platonic engagement unlike the stupid Sinhala/Buddhists and stupid Tamils.

            ISS would eventually come around to acknowledge my position.

            In your case people like Nalin, Kamalika, Ranawake and others have filled your head with rubbish. Hence you cannot and will not think reasonably to identify, acknowledge and address the issues, in other words, you let

            Garbage in garbage out.

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    C. Wijeyawickrema

    “If Tamils want a separate country it must be based on Tamil Nad which is the Tamil homeland.”

    Excellent idea.

    Or Baluchistan in Pakistan or Khuzestan Province in Southwest Iran.

    The Sinhala/Buddhist also can have their one nation not in Sri Lanka but in Sinhapura, Venga. However the latest DNA studies confirms that Sinhalese too are genetically related to Tamils of Tamilnadu.

    Your separate Sinhala/Buddhist country must be based on either Tamilnadu or Sinhapura.

    For my people, Sri Lanka is the only country we call home.

    Therefore the choice is yours. Either you join your Tamil brethren on a return Kallathoni to Tamilnadu or another one which will take you straight to Sinhapura.

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    Sri Lanka is not divisible. First of all people living outside Sri Lanka cannot demand a two state solution. If at all, it should be the people who live within the country who should demand a two state solution. Two state solutions does not guarantee democracy to the people in both states as it would be another government that would want to implement its demands on the people. So two state solution is out. Further based on the language (Tamils/Muslims vs Sinhalese) is not an option as more Tamils/Muslims live outside the Northern territory in Sri Lanka. So the only solution is equal rights. If people living out side are truly and honestly interested in establishing democracy to the minorities, then they have two options. One, move to Sri Lanka and fight for equal rights, rather than shouting from abroad. The second option is to support the people, irrespective of the location in Sri Lanka and irrespective of the language they speak, to fight for equal rights. Let us all learn to be honest to ourselves first.

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    The new prophet of the Tamils! He anticipated things at the beginning of 2112 that no one else has anticipated! He is talking of a two- state solution for the Tamils, when the Tamils are unable to live in even one village properly,because of the lingering after effects of the war his guru and master VP foolishly precipitated.

    Those who do not learn from history are destined to relive it. Those who cannot learn are obviously fools at best and imbeciles at worst. I hope men like Rudrakumaran do not succeed in destroying the Tamils in Sri Lanka forever. He would then become an even greater friend of the Sinhalese- the modern day Dutugemunus- than Prabaharan, as one wise Sinhalese has enunciated.

    Dr.Rajasingham Narendran

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    Who is this idiot calling himself the Prime Minister for TGTE. Eelam is dead and gone

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    As a favour for the Prime Minister of TGTE, I wanted to translate his letter and send it to Sinhala print media and post it to Sinhala web sites. Hence, I request permission from the Colombo Telegraph. Thank you.
    Leela

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      Villager,

      Please also translate some of the comments that have followed.

      Dr.R.N

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      Hi Villager,

      Don’t forget to send this dude’s photo too.

      It will make a nice poster for the CJ and her supporters , when she gets the ball rolling to roll Rajapaksa.

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      Villager

      Leela of Vattukkottai fame, you can chose any number of names but you cannot hide your true identity.

      Your signature has betrayed you.

      Please stick to your earlier pseudonym, Vattukkottai fame Leela.

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    FORGET TAMIL EELAM, WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO LIVE IN HARMONY WITH ALL SRI LANKANS. LET US GET THE LAST RULERS WHO GAVE US THE PREMATURE INDEPENDENCE TO COME BACK AND REORGANIZE OUR BEAUTIFUL ISLAND WHICH IS THE ENVY OF ALL THE WORLD. THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING ON THE RULERS HAVE BECOME THE TERRORISTS WHO ARE TERRORIZING WHOEVER COMES AGAINST THEM.

    S W R D BANDA RUINED THE SOUTH IN 1958 AND GOT BLOWN OFF BY A SAFFRON CLAD GENTLEMAN.

    VELUPILLAI PRABAHARAN RUINED THE NORTH AND GOT BLOWN OFF IN 2009, UNFORTUNATELY WITH INNOCENT TAMILS WHO HATED HIS IDEOLOGY.

    SINCE THEN THE RULERS HAVE STARTED TERRORIZING THE WHOLE COUNTRY WITH THEIR STUPID IDEOLOGY, WHICH WILL NEVER GET THE COUNTRY BACK ON THE RIGHT PATH.

    WHY ARE ALL THE SRI LANKANS WISHING AND PLANNING TO LEAVE THIS BEAUTIFUL ISLAND IF THIS ISLAND IS SO PROSPEROUS?

    ONLY A FEW DAYS BACK I PERSONALLY SPOKE TO SOME OFFICERS IN UNIFORM, WHO WANTED KNOW HOW TO GO TO EUROPE, AUSTRALIA, UNITED KINGDOM, AMERICA, CANADA OR ANYWHERE AWAY FROM SRI LANKA. THEY SAY THAT THEY ARE TREATED LIKE “BONE EATING DOGS” (KATU KANA BALLO) TO PROTECT THE LIVES OF THE RULERS AND THEIR FAMILIES.

    THIS IS PROOF ENOUGH FOR THE REGIME TO PACK UP THEIR MAT AND PILLOW AND TAKE A SLOW WALK BACK TO THEIR MUD HUTS IN RUHUNU AND DO THE DEVIL DANCE TO THE DRUM BEAT OF “THOIL BERE'”

    THE ISLAND IS IN DEBT FOR THE NEXT 100 YEARS TO THE WHOLE WORLD. CHINA WANTS TO INSURE THE DEBT THEY HAVE GIVEN SRI LANKA WITH THE SAME AMOUNT. THIS WILL TAKE ANOTHER 100 YEARS TO PAY BACK THE DEBT. THE ISLAND IS WRITTEN OFF TO THE CHINESE AS A SURETY, SO IF THE DEBT IS NOT PAID OFF THE CHINESE WILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO WALK IN AND TAKE OVER IT WITH LOCK STOCK AND BARREL.

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    Ever since we got Independence our Leaders except D.S. Senanayake, Dudley Senanayake and Sir John Kotalawela….the rest of the Jokers never did anything to the country except divided it across communal, religious and ethnic lines. This they did for their political power base and to Divide and rule for their benefit and not for peoples benefit.

    MARA PAKAS took it to the peak….and now even try to bring conflicts and animocity among our long time frindly international donor countries who helped us RIGHT throughout OUR DIFFICULT TIMES ……. GOING BEHIND CHEENA BOKU BOKU CHINA, LICKING THEIR ASSES TO GET THEIR FUC..NG 10% COMMISSION AND BLACK MONEY AWARDING THEM UNWANTED CONTRACTS.

    How come Basil selected a CHINESE WOMAN AS THE MILLIONTH TOURIST IN YEAR 2012 WHEN ONLY 30,000 Chinese tourists came to Sri Lanka (as per ITN news).

    Then the rest of the 970,000 TOURISTS WOULD HAVE COME MAINLY FROM ENGLAND, WESTERN EUROPE, INDIA, USA, CANADA AND RUSSIA. BUT THE HIGHEST WOULD HAVE COME FROM ENGLAND. SO HOW COME A CHINESE BECAME A MILLIONTH TOURIST…..AND A POLISH BECAME THE 950,000 TOURIST. CAN ANYBODY GIVE THE BREAKDOWN OF THE COUNTRIES AND THE NUMBERS OF TOURISTS CAME FROM THOSE COUNTRIES IN 2012…..SO WE COULD COMPARE WHO AND WHICH COUNTRY.

    I tell GON BUURU (Mad ass) GOTA NOT TO POLITICISE OUR TOURIST INDUSTRY AND RUIN IT THE SAME WAY HIS MOTHER FU..RE BROTHER RUINED OUR REPUTATION BY ROBBING TSUNAMI MONEY…WHILE SENDING BOATLOADS OF REFUGEES TO OTHER COUNTRIES.

    ALREADY THE THREE MOST LEADING TOURISM PRIVATE SECTOR DIRECTORS RESIGNED YESTERDAY DUE TO GOTAS INTERFERENCE. I AM SURE THIS UNEDUCATED FUC.ER IS GOING TO RUIN OUR LAST REMAINING TOURIST INDUSTRY PRETTY SOON…..TAKE MY WORD I’LL TAKE ANY BET WITH ANYBODY. REMEMBER THIS DAY WHAT I SAID…..TODAY.

    I THINK JUDICIARY SHOULD COMPLETELY AVOID THE EXECUTIVE AND THE LEGISLATURE AND CONCENTRATE MORE ON HELPING THE GENERAL PUBLIC DIRECTING THEM TOWARDS CORRECT PATH AND TO BUILD HARMONY AND PEACE AMONG ALL COMMUNITIES AND WITH THE WESTERN AND EASTERN COUNTRIES WHO LOVE SRI LANKA AND IT’S PEOPLE FROM THE INCEPTION…..AND ALSO WHO ARE PREPARED TO HELP US IN FUTURE.

    ALSO JUDICIARY SHOULD BRING ALL THE GOVT. CORRUPT CULPRITS WHO CHEATED CITIZENS MONEY TO BOOKS AND WHO HAVE ROBBED PEOPLES MONEY…..THIS IS A MUST.

    ONLY IT IS MARA WHO TRY TO BREAK THE FRIENDSHIP WITH WESTERN COUNTRIES FOR HIS SELFISH DICTATORIAL POWER GRAB AND NO OPPOSITION PARTIES OR THE JUDICIARY SHOULD FALL INTO THIS MARA TRAP. THEY SHOULD BUILD A VERY CORDIAL FRIENDSHIP WITH ALL OUR FRIENDLY COUNTRIES EVEN THOUGH MARA TRY TO SIDE STEP THEM.

    THIS IS A MUST AND URGENT.

    AS PER THIS NEW YEAR 2013 CT’S MESSAGE IS TOLERANCE, LOVE AND PEACE AMONG ALL WITHOUT BORDERS……..AND I HOPE ALL THE OPPOSITION PARTIES, CJ, JUDICIARY,SC AND THE COUNTRY LOVING CITIZEN SHOULD UNITE TOGETHER TO SAFEGUARD OUR COUNTRY……WITHOUT ALLOWING EVIL MARA REGIME WHO TRY TO DIVIDE RACES AND BRING ANIMOSITY AND FEAR AMONG ALL COMMUNITIES.

    WISH, HOPE AND PRAY TO SEE A NEW PEOPLES GOVERNMENT TO RULE SRI LANKA IN NEW YEAR 2013.

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      Jayantha,

      D.S.Senanayke got the communal bandwagon roiling by disenfranchising the Tamils of Indian origin . He was supported by the elected representatives of the ‘ Ceylon’ Tamils. This was the original sin. Tamils have paid a heavy price for this sin and may pay more. The country as a whole is paying for this act of bad governance, Bad governance has becoming endemic in Sri Lanka and is now haunting everyone of us- Sinhala,Tamil,Muslim and of course the Vedda ( Native Vedda- please note).

      Dr.Rajasingham Narendran

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        Dr.Rajasingham Narendran:

        “Bad governance has becoming endemic in Sri Lanka and is now haunting everyone of us- Sinhala,Tamil,Muslim and of course the Vedda ( Native Vedda- please note).”

        Thanks for your support our people.

        Perhaps it is due to Curse of Kuveini.

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    Mr Visuvanathan Rudrakumaran, you and the LTTE remnants are living in luxury with funds extorted from innocent Tamil people of Sri Lankan origin living in these countries. Your foolish statement in 2012 that it was important for your people in the homeland to undertake direct political action appears to be responsible for the stand taken by the Army against those responsible for inciting the innocent Jaffna University students to commemorate the LTTE Mahaveer day. Now your foolish actions will unite everyone in Sri Lanka to strengthen the unitary character of Sri Lanka by implementing the National Three Language policy and perhaps disbanding the Provincial Councils. Every Action has an Equal and Opposite Reaction!

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    It is good to see a dialogue developing. Though still at surface level, it could go a long way if this two state issue is resolved with concrete evidence from historic, economic, geographic, sociological and geopolitical perspectives.

    Mr. VR is businessman operating with a capital provided by the Tamil diaspora and with regard to two state issue he means business. Whether he would succeed in it the future will tell. As for now it is pretty thin thanks to the global intelligence net of SL. Hence the GOSL has to be vigilant and continue for at least 20-more years.

    In between there may be problems here and there where unhappy elements creating problems by ignoring state authority like the PSC ignoring the SC and Court of Appeal.

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    You said that it is in the interest of the International states to allow an independent Tamil Eelam. Are you sure about India? The last 30 years are telling the contrary. Are you sure the US are so interested in fomenting a secession? Why? You didn’t explain it.
    You mention the oppression of the Sri Lankan state. I agree. You didn’t say anything on the convenience of the Sinhalese to allow the separation. Why?
    What is the interest of the Sinhalese? To avoid another conflict? What do you have to offer? I remind you that after the confrontation with the armed struggle, you lost. So your negotiating power is quite limited. The Rajapaksa administration is guilty of war crimes. I agree. But this is not enough to ask for an independent state, given the international situation.
    I understand your request, but you didn’t bring any argument to support it. Your appeal sounds unsubstantiated.

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    I have a solution to treat the root cause of ethnic crises in Sri Lanka.
    Buddhist monks should be allowed to marry and have family.In 20 years time Sri Lanka will be a highly developed country with peace and harmony.

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    Budda is ..

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    V…Rudakumuran (Dr) LTTE leader of Exile in Politics of so-called Sepereate Eelam state want to DIVID Sri Lankan into TWO- One for Tamil and other Non-Tamils .
    Origin of Tamil nation Tamil Nadu in India not take into accounts By Rudakumuar(Dr)in as their HOMELAND i the World Map.
    Easly V..Rudu demand for TWO STATE for ONE NATION IN UNO AND WORLD MAP.
    One for V….Rud in Eelam in Sri lankan and Other in Tamil Nadu Kurunnidi of DMK or Dr Jaylilta ADAMK in India.
    If you futher adopte of policy progress in the Launching Tamil Hegomony of EXPANSION will possible to extentd to Malayisa ,Singapore Seycells, England Greater London,France outsktits of Paris,Berlin of Germany, Part of Norway, Canada Quibck and Australia Vicrory & New South Wales.
    In your political term of context your vision of Eelam is NOT capitalism,but EELAISM OF NEW MODE OF PRODUCATION OF TAMIL SYSTEM WILL COME INTO BEING.Your RACEISIM IS SUPERIOR THAN ANY OTHER RACEISM IN THE UNIVERSE.

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      Rudrakumaran is not a doctor . He is lawyer.

      Dr.Rajasingham Narendran

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    “The Thirst of Tamils is Tamil Ealam.”

    The NWS&DB is in the process of developing a river for Jaffna. Unfortunately nobody will be permitted to bottle the water flowing in it for selling for profit. Even after the river project is completed the citizens of the mythical Tamil Ealam would have to drink the water sold in bottles in European, American and Canadian groceries.

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      Kiri Gamarala,

      The Tamils in Kilinochchi are objecting to any water from the Iranaimadu tank being directed for irrigation purposes to the peninsula, unless the Mahaweli or other river waters are diverted to the Irranaimadu tank. There is also controversy about raising the height of the bund of this tank, because the nearby Tiger airfield has been now taken over by the airforce.

      Dr.Rajasingham Narendran

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    Reader Kiri Gamarala tells us the NWS&DB is in the process of developing a river for Jaffna. An excellent, though belated, idea and is welcome in the interest of a possible National reconciliation effort. The Jaffna farmer is unlikely to forget anyone helping him in his ancient avocation. Curiously, one wonders why the Mahawerli Diversion Project “accelerated” under JRJ’s tenure saw itself stopped on its diversionary path to the Tamil majority inhabited areas. Was it because Gamini D was conenitally anti-Tamil – an inclination he was to demonstrate for all to see in 1981-82 (Jaffna Library, DDC Elections period)

    Senguttuvan

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    The learned reader C. Wijewickrema (I believe he lives in the USA)
    knows more than many Sinhalese of Tamil history. That being so, Sir,
    please also do not forget to mention in your writing that until the Portugese arrival disturbed the
    Status Quo Tamils in the Island lead their lives in what is now the
    North-East Province. That is what they are appealing to get back. The more activist of them have now even readily agree to live with their Sinhala cousins in an undivided Island. They could, I believe, continue to insist on and eventually get an entirely separate country of their own according to existing international law. But they are prepared to yield to the counselling of India, the USA, UK, EU, Japan all of whom have taken such sincere efforts to help us unite.

    Senguttuvan

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    Sri Lanka, a small island nation with several ethnic groups does not seem like a viable place to be subdivided along ethnic lines. In such an event all minorities would need to be given a separate piece of land to call their own.

    Presently there is a surplus of politicians at several levels of government; ie central, regional or provincial etc. If further sets of politicians are elected or appointed at ethnic councils or small separate states, the whole island would become a political colony!

    Furthermore, if a minority group identified by ethnic dimensions (ie Tamil) are assigned a separate state, then all those who identify themselves as such, will need to relocate. If the partition of India in 1947 is anything to go by, there will be bloodbath after bloodbath when each minority is partitioned off.

    These prime ministers in exile are crazy to adopt phrases from the Palestinian conflict (ie two state solution) and apply them to tiny Sri Lanka in their imagination!!

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    The whole country is run by MARA, GOTA, BARA AND CHAMA RAJAPAKSE ENTERPRISES INC…….The rest of the Parliament is occupied by PIN PADI VANDIBATTAYAS.

    UNP RW is the biggest opposition Pay earner with Rs:86 million annual salary (as per Tiran Alles parliament speech)….with other benefits that we don’t know.

    There may be million other incentives given to MP’s what we citizens don’t know…..and we citizens want to know “WHO APPROVED THIS HUGE PAYROLL AND PERKS”…..and the current MP’s salaries and perks.

    THEREFORE PARLIAMENT WHICH SAY (uttthareethara) SUPREME, IS THE BIGGEST THIEVE’S DEN IN THE COUNTRY. IT IS COMPRISED WITH SOME LOWEST EDUCATED DONKEYS IN THE WORLD…..COMPRISED WITH GRADE 8 DROP OUTS, THUGS,THIEVES, CROOKS, COMMISSION KAKKAS, EVER FAMOUS PARTY JUMPERS, PANDAM KARAYAS ETC.

    Therefore NO WONDER RW WANTS HIS PARLIAMENT CLUB MEMBERSHIP TO BE SUPREME……..TO KEEP HIS HUGE PAYROLL (86 Million year) WITHOUT DOING A SINGLE WORK TO THE COUNTRY OR CITIZEN. WHAT CAN YOU CALL THIS OTHER THAN PIN PADI, SUMMA PEOPLE’S MONEY EARNING RESPECTABLE BEGGERS.

    What qualification Anura Bandaranaike…..who was a Grade 10 dropout…..with no Law knowledge, jumping from one party to another and from one Parliament portfolio to another …..Know about LAW to interpret CONSTITUTION…….another parliament MUT…who is RANIL’S MENTOR.

    WHAT WE CITIZEN NEED ONLY A TRANSPARENT, UNBIASED, OPEN AND JUST HEARING…..NOT A CROOKS KANGAROO COURT HEARING.

    WE ARE THANKFUL FOR TNA, AND JVP FOR THEIR SUPPORT FOR US, CITIZEN’S JUSTICE BY APPEARING IN APPEAL’S COURT TOMORROW. AND WE WILL SUPPORT YOU IN FUTURE. NOW WE KNOW WHO REPRESENT TRUE CITIZEN’S DEMOCRAZY,NEEDS AND RIGHTS.

    ALSO JUDICIARY SHOULD BRING LAWSUIT FOR ALL THE PARLIAMENT CROOKS WHO EARNED ILLICIT MONEY…..ROBBING COUNTRY AND OUR MONEY.

    ALSO I HERD GOVT. GOONS PLAN TO DISRUPT TOMORROW’S HEARING…..SO MAKE EARLY PLANS TO STOP THEM…AND IF YOU COULD BROADCAST ON LIVE TV/ RADIO IS HELPFUT.

    WE CITIZEN ARE WITH YOU JUDICIARY AND YOU HAVE TO CLEAN UP THE MESS THAT PREVIOUS JUDICIARY, AND EX. CJ’S SARATH AND ASOKA SILVA WHO BROUGHT DISGRACE ON JUDICIARY.

    GOOD LUCK TO YOU CJ,JUDICIARY,APPEAL’S COURT, JVP, TNA AND CITIZEN.

    ALSO JUDICIARY AND CITIZEN SHOULD KEEP A CLOSE CONNECTION WITH BOTH WESTERN AND EASTERN COUNTRIES WHO HELPED US IN THE PAST AND WILL HELP US IN FUTURE ALSO WITHOUT ANY STRINGS ATTACHE…..WHICH GOSL SYSTEMATICALLY TRYING TO DISTANCE AND ISOLATE THEM TO KEEP HOLD ONTO DICTATORIAL REGIME.

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    Mr. Rudrakumaran is a Sri Lankan living outside Sri Lanka. Why do some readers call him Honourable Prime Minister or Prime Minister. Has he been accepted atleast by the UN or any other World Body. PLO had Consultative Status with a number of World Bodies but this group of Sri Lankans has no status at all and they are self appointed. It is like the Indians living in Mauritius, Singapore, Malaysia, Fiji, or even Southall in England or in any other country appointing someone as the Prime Minister and demand a separate State in India. The Sri Lankans can live in peace and harmony with the Canadians, French, British, Australians, Germans, Americans, Italians, etc. etc. Through experience I know the Tamils and Sinhalese live in peace and harmony in all the European countries and in other countries as well though there had been a few minor incidents. So why can’t we, the Sinhalese speaking and Tamil speaking Sri Lankans who are of Indian origin live in Peace and Harmony in Sri Lanka. Why do we need to separate our tiny little Island. If both these communities get together, Sri Lanka could be above Singapore and many other developed countries. For our bad luck, some stupid Sinhalese Sinhalese and Tamils are trying to be above the other and both communities become the loosers.

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      Ronny,

      It is not that we Sinhalese and Tamil Brothern that do not want to live in peace and harmony…..but the racist Sinhala Govt Crooks who have permanently occupying the Parliment who do not allow us to do so.

      The ever fearded psycophants do not want anybody to rise above them. They even don’t mind feeding Punnakku (coconut husk)or Grass to anybody saying they are nutritious, than allow them to be self sufficient and independent both economically, socially and politically.

      ALL THE GOVT. AID GIVEN TO RURAL FOLK IS THE UNSEEN LEASH THAT KEEP THEM UNDER SUBMISSION AND UNDER CONTROL OF THE STATE POLICY.

      Therefore both Patriot Sinhalese and Tamil Brothern should unite to liberate our country from State Mafia and make a new constitution to live in harmony, peacefully, tolerence, honourably, and a just society without any borders.

      I wish that day is near.

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      I concur

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    Navin (Jan 02 – 5/34pm) Claim for Nationhood under the UN has to satisfy several basic criteria. History, archeological evidence, religion language/literature, continuous habitation for centuries being some. By this yardstick only Tamils and Sinhalese here qualify.

    Senguttuvan

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      So what is the area that comes under “continuous habitation” of Tamils? Present Northern province has no relation to what was under Aryachakrawarthi’s control. The line of control between Jaffna ruler and Kandiyan kingdom shifted back and forth. The East is even more complicated.

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        According to the historian Dr. M. Gunasingham, from around 10th to 13th century A.D, (Subsequent to the Chola domination of Sri Lanka in the 10th century A.D), people who identified themselves as Buddhists and Hela/Sihala shifted their seats of rule from the ancient kingdoms of Anuradapura/ Polonnaruva (ruled alternatively by both Sinhala and Tamil kings) towards South, West and Central Sri Lanka while the people who identified themselves as Saiva and Demela moved their ruling structures from these same regions to the North and East of the island. For many centuries from then, until the Portuguese conquest of the Jaffna kingdom from the Tamil king Cankili 11, the Tamils and the Sinhalese were living in two separate regions in Sri Lanka. Just like the Sinhalese, the Tamil people of Sri Lanka also established their own kingdom/government, and governed themselves independently. The Tamil kingdom, which extended up to the eastern province, came under Portuguese domination in 1621, and this was how the Tamils lost their sovereignty, independence and their traditional homeland.

        Even after the European colonialists (Portuguese, Dutch and British) arrived, until the British united the Tamil North to the Sinhala South in 1833 for their convenience in administration, the Tamil speaking areas remained a federal region. The Portuguese, when they captured the Tamil kingdom, appointed a captain-major as the governor of Jaffna and administered it as a distinct political unit. The Dutch continued the same. The British gave credence to a united Ceylon in 1833, ignoring the historical realities that existed. This uniform administrative structure and the idea of a “united Ceylon” spelt doom for the Tamils’ distinctiveness, again, something the Sinhalese rulers had failed to achieve.

        When the European colonialists arrived, what all of them clearly observed and experienced during their period was that, in the island of Sri Lanka, there were two different Nations (Sinhalese and Tamils) having two different languages, religions, cultures, and living in two well defined and clearly and naturally demarcated (with thick jungles, lakes, river, etc) land areas with their own kingdoms within their traditional lands. The Tamils lived as a majority within their separate land area (North & East) and the Sinhalese also lived as a majority within their land area (South, West & Central). The British, on seeing the naturally existing borders of the two ethnic groups used their technology to demarcate them as two separate regions (occupied by two separate ethnic groups) and created the maps for the first time somewhere in the 1800s. In their map published in England, the area that constituted the traditional homeland of the Tamils is unmistakably shown to extend from Chilaw northward and eastward to a point near Madawchchi; south of Padavil Kulam extending to the Trincomalee district; and the Batticaloa district down to the mouth of the Walawa Ganga in the south.

        Later in 1833, the British created one government with one centralized, unitary form of administration under a governor in Colombo without the consent of the people, and in doing so ended the hopes for a Tamil nation as a distinct political entity, something that no conqueror had managed to do – to stifle the flame of an independent existence. The introduction of a unitary form of government (creating a single majority) was a tragic step in the wrong direction which led to the Sinhalese hegemony over the Tamils. It was the grave mistake on the part of the British to bind together in a common polity the two ethnic groups with no common links, and to bind them together by the whip they wielded. It was a death knell for the Tamils’ distinctiveness, freedom, independence and their centuries-old sovereignty.

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          Thank you for your response.

          What you have presented is an “a version of history”. Dr. Gunasingham is one of many historians that have written about Sri Lankan history. I have studied history but I’m not an expert on the subject. I do not consider Tamil historians any more credible than their Sinhalese counterparts.

          I concur with you on migration of Sinhalese to the South after invasion of Magha. However, your claim that Anuradhapura was ruled alternatively by Sinhalese and Tamil kings is an over simplification. Anuradhapura/Polonnaruwa was held by Tamil invaders but they were of South Indian origin. Their rein was temporary and they did not contribute towards the civilization. They cannot be considered (Sri Lankan) Tamil kings or have anything to do with Sri Lankan Tamils or their sovereignty.

          The area that Jaffna ruler was able to defend changed often. He was subordinate to Kandian king at times and independent when there was political turmoil in the South. There are instances where Kandian king sent forces to stop Jaffna ruler engaging in pearl collecting activities in Mannar. The Musliems in the Eastern province were settled there by the Kandiyan kings which show they had control over that part of the country as opposed to the claim that it was under Jaffna ruler’s control. Some Wanni chieftains were loyal to Jaffna ruler while some were with Kandian king. Furthermore, it is said that Kotte King overpowered Jaffna ruler. This is debated by Tamils but as I said before, I do not consider their claims any more credible than what is claimed by Sinhalese historians.

          Hence you cannot claim that Tamil kingdom extended all the way to Chilaw, over Northern province and Eastern province. These provincial boundaries have been drawn much later as you point out and have no correspondence to the area that was under the writ of Jaffna ruler.

          You also cannot claim as borders of Tamil kingdom, areas that were held only for a brief period of time. Clearly, much of the areas that fall under present day Eastern province and Northern province were under the rule of Kandian king or at best no mans lands. To include such areas and areas that were jungles or otherwise uninhibited in Tamil homeland based on maps drawn by British is DECEPTION.

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            Navin

            You have not referenced your above historical study of why Tamils didn’t have long established kingdom.

            If you are a keen student of history you would have cited evidence. You are not.

            Nalin, Kamalika Champika, SPUR itas and others have repeated the same recycled rubbish and find did difficult to sell it to their own supporters.

            If you would like to engage in a serious discussion on the history of the island then of course you lets start the discussions here and now provided you give up your politically motivated vein attempt to rewrite history.

            Although I am bit thick I believe I have well researched supporting evidence mostly written by eminent Sri Lankan historians, which will destroy all what you want to believe in.

            You are responsible for your own ignorance and stupidity.

            Don’t be childish, grow up and be a man. I can help you.

            If you put garbage in you get garbage out.

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              I’m not in the business of rewriting history. I have studied history. Nalin, Champika, SPUR had nothing to do with my academic work. I have no intension of wasting time writing a rebuttal with references on area with such a lot of disagreement.

              What I have stated above is what is generally accepted as facts. With that I have made my case against considering present day North and East as Tamil homeland and shown clearly the limits of sovereignty that was enjoyed by Jaffna ruler.

              You are not the only one out there with a different version of history, evidence to prove your story with dates, names, maps etc. etc. and list of historians to support your case. I believe in what I studied then. I believe that material to be reasonably sound not to be swayed every time somebody says something to the contrary or cites ostensibly new evidence.

              Hence you raving and ranting neither bothers nor surprises me. I know enough history and basic sciences to realize the limits of what I know and what everybody else knows.

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            It is true that from time to time certain parts of the Tamil speaking areas of the North and the East came under the Kandyan Kingdom, but it makes no difference to the Tamil position in regard to the inhabitancy of the Eastern province. The Tamils would have had and yet have no objection what so ever to the benevolent and accommodating rule of the kandyan kings whether they were Kalinga (from Orissa) or Nayakkar (the last four Raja Sinhas were Tamils from Madurai), and see no inconsistency in the Tamil claim to the Eastern province (Tamil speaking region) even under the Kandyan rule. There is enough evidence to prove that even the Kandyan aristocrats (example Rathwatte, Ehelepola, et al) wrote and spoke Tamil.

            Throughout my life, I have never come across a Sinhala person or family that claimed an Eastern province habitancy or origin. If you speak to the Sinhalese living in the Eastern province, each one of them will say that their grandfather or great grandfather is from the South (colonized by the government after 1948) where as there are any number of Tamils and Muslims who hail from the East and proudly proclaim their habitancy. The Eastern province was inhabited by Tamils, Muslims, Burghers and Veddhas (NOT Sinhalese). Today, not only the Tamils and Muslims but even the Burghers and Veddhas in the East speak Tamil. The Sinhalese were settled in the East by the DS Senanayake government only after 1948.

            Some people falsely believe that King Dutugemunu united the Northern Kingdom of Anuradapura to the Southern Kingdom of Rohana. Even if we assume it as the truth, it lasted only a few years. Within the relatively short period of 34 years after Dutugemunu’s death, five Tamils Pulahattha, Bahiya, Panayamaraka, Pilayamaraka and Dathika took over the reins. The Tamils moved from Anuradapura to Jaffna and established the Jaffna kingdom only during the 13th century AD. Even during the recent past, in 17th century AD (colonial period), Rajarata (Anuradapura) was inhabited by Tamils as per the book written by Robert Knox (Robert Knox in the Kandyan Kingdom, Ed. E.F.C.Ludowyk, p 50). Throughout history (until 1833), Sri Lanka always had a federal setup, either Northern kingdom (Anuradapura) and Southern kingdom (Rohana), or Ruhunu/Maya/Pihiti, or Kandy/Kotte/Jaffna, or the Provinces under the colonials as per the existing demography what the maps created by the British somewhere in the 1800 shows.

            On the other hand, according to H.W.Codrington, Tamil was the court language of the kings of Kotte (Kotte is a Tamil word for fort), near Colombo in the Western Province. The record of gifts of lands given to Munneswaram temple (Hindu) in Chilaw were in Tamil. Some later gifts to the same temple by Parakrama Bahu IX (1506-1528) and Kirti Siri Rajasinha (1747-1782) were also written in Tamil. According to Queyroz (Book I), Chilaw, Puttalam and Negombo were all Tamil-speaking areas. Buvaneka Bahu VII, King of Kotte (1521-1550) made his attestations in Tamil.

            According to G.C.Mendis (Early History of Ceylon), ‘There is sufficient evidence to prove that in the early Centuries of the Christian Era, the Tamils helped to form the Sinhalese race. This influence became considerable after the invasions and the occupation of Ceylon by the Colas (AD 1017-1076), and it grew stronger with the Pandya invasions (AD 1310 et seq.). It is difficult to gauge the extent of Tamil blood in the Sinhalese, but there is no doubt that it is considerable. Otherwise it is difficult to explain why the Sinhalese language not only in its vocabulary but also in its structure shows the influence of Tamil so strongly and why the Sinhalese caste system is so similar to that of South India.’

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              I accept that there were regional rulers in Sri Lanka. My main argument is how independent they were and the area over they had control. While at times regional rulers enjoyed autonomy, whenever there were powerful kings they were subordinate to that king. Hence this island has had one rule as well as regional rule.

              Trying to associate present Eastern/North provinces _exclusively_ with Jaffna kingdom is wrong. Borders of Jaffna kingdom changed throughout its existence and overlaps with areas over which Sinhala kings had much influence at other times including long before Jaffna kingdom came to be.

              Anuradhapura and Polonnaruwa were relatively stable kingdoms that developed a rich civilization. Present day Sinhalese have their roots in these kingdoms. Therefore it is unreasonable to include greater part of North including Mannar which served as a main port at that time, in Tamil homeland and exclude all rights of Sinhala people to that part of the country solely based on later developments of Jaffna kingdom. This in a way leads to the contradiction where Tamils are present in Anurdhapura times amidst Sinhala people but the notion of _exclusive_ Tamil homeland is yet to be established.

              I cannot verify Pulahaththa took the kingdom to Jaffna. From what I gather from the web (The Story of the Sinhalese, John M. Senaveratna), Pulahaththa and his military chiefs like Bahiya killed each other and were only in power for about 14 years. They were subsequently overthrown by king Valagambahu. Nevertheless, the political instability towards later part of Anuradhapura period and much of Polonnaruwa is well known.

              You exclude Sinhalese from Eastern province. I doubt distribution of Sinhalese would have been this clear cut. Adjacent to Eastern province we have Sinhalese kingdoms like Polonnaruwa, Kandy and Ruhuna. I’m sure you are aware of the ancient sluice gates of Maduru Oya, the numerous Buddhists sites like Seruvila, Dighavapi scattered throughout present Eastern province and the Dutch entering into treaties with king of Kandy over Eastern coast.

              You quote G.C.Mendis (Early History of Ceylon), “There is sufficient evidence to prove that in the early Centuries of the Christian Era, the Tamils helped to form the Sinhalese race.”. BUT you left out part of the sentence “… nothing has yet been discovered to show that during that time they made any noteworthy contribution to the civilization of Ceylon.”

              I think talking about Tamil lineage of Sinhala people or vise versa makes no sense. It is very likely all these people derive from same stock. Furthermore, invading armies and soldiers brought in by Sinhala kings from South India also contributed many Tamil speakers to this country, at least during Anuradhapura and Polonnaruwa times.

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              Kumar Joseph:

              I see you have been cutting and pasting from J. L. Devananda’s articles heavily without citing your source. Now do I need to remind you this is not scholarly practice? I wonder whether you have studied history or are simply following the web.

              The entire paragraph “Throughout my life, I have never come across a Sinhala…” comes from one of J. L. Devananda’s writings.

              So is the paragraph “When the European colonialists arrived, what all of them clearly observed and experienced during their period was that, in the …”

              Devananda while claiming Tamils and Naga’s resided together during Anuradhapura times, and admitting Sinhalese derived from the same tribes, de-legitimizes all rights of Sinhalese to even their most revered Buddhist sites in Anuradhapura claiming them to be belonging to Tamils. People who make such inferences are not trying to rectify historic misconceptions but are trying to project yet another version of history to suite their agendas.

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            Is it from his grandfather that this big headed big talking Vedda boy learned his history and Vedda ‘Kuweni’? I am sure most commentators didn’t want to pick on him for he is what he is. But it has come to the tipping point for me.

            Vedda boy talk as if this is Vedda country and Sinhalas are aliens and Vedda has their own source to know Vedda history. How many Veddas are there in entire Sri Lanka who claims to be Veddas for this idiot to ask us Sinhalas to go back to India? Negligible. So what a stupid demand this Vedda is making? He is a disgrace to other Veddas. This stupid man should have known that if not for Mahawamsa no Vedda would ever know about Kuweni or any of their ancestors. They only would have known the monkies.

            It is none other than writing in Mahawansa which was compiled in the 5th century by monk Mahanama who based his writing on Deepawamsa and other chronicles that mahavihra monks maintained since 3rd century BCE and Sinhala Attakatha we all have come to know the story of Wijya and Kuweni. According to our said chronicles, Vedda chose to stay in the jungle whereas other tribes Yaksha, Naga, Deva and Raksha joined with descendents of Wijaya to make up the Sinhala nation from the time of Padukabhaya. This was narrated sighting monuments, rock edits and chronicles in a series of discussions over one hundred parts under the title ‘Sinhale Wansa Kathawa’ in Swarnawahini a few years back where scholars of archaeology and history have taken part.

            The only available Tamil chronicle of Sri Lanka history that I came across is a book called ‘Yalpana Vaipava Malai’ written by a poet named Mayilvagana Pulavar in 1736 AD translated by Britto.

            So, don’t take this Vedda boy seriously for I can visualize he is confused and in conflict with his trait trying hard to come up in the social ladder. Perhaps that’s why Wijewickrama has challenged him for his true identity before he reply Vedda.
            Leela

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              Leela
              “According to our said chronicles, Vedda chose to stay in the jungle whereas other tribes Yaksha, Naga, Deva and Raksha joined with descendents of Wijaya to make up the Sinhala nation from the time of Padukabhaya.”

              I have read the Deepawamsa and the Mahavamsa but I have never come across the above statement, that is Yaksha, Naga, Deva and Raksha joining Wijaya to make up the Sinhala nation. Could you please tell me on which page of our said chronicles you found the above statement?
              If it was narrated from a stone inspiration or rock edit could you please give us some scholastic/academic evidence to prove that the above statement is true?

              Also, could you please tell us who were those scholars of archaeology and history who came on Swarnawahini. Are they actual historians or some bogus pseudo-historians and charlatans like Nalin de Silva, Gunadasa A, at el?

              If you read above, C. Wijeyawickrema came like a LION but finally escaped (ran away) like a pussy cat without answering our questions. Asking for the real name to respond is only an excuse/escape route to avoid embarrassment. Hope you have the balls to respond. (and do not tell us that Leela is your real name).

              Looks like it is not the Vedda boy but you are confused or rather some bogus pseudo-historians and charlatans have confused you.

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              Sinhalese (including Villager) Confused

              Most probably due to misinformation or lack of clear information, during the last few decades, the Sinhala Buddhists Nationalists were concocting many different versions of their history, some of them contradicting each other.

              There is one group that totally believes in the Mahavamsa, that about two thousand five hundred years ago, Vijay and 700 men (Aryans) came from North India, took Tamil Pandya (Pandu from Madurai) wives from South India and formed the Sinhala race.

              Another group, the followers of Anagarika Dhammapala believes the same but without the Tamil connection, that is, the Sinhalese are pure North Indian Aryans and did not mix with anybody.

              Then there is another group known as the Jaathika Chinthanaya (national consciousness) movement founded by Gunadasa Amarasekera (Sinhala writer/poet and dentist) and Prof. Nalin Silva (Maths and Physics lecturer) that believes, about two thousand five hundred years ago, Vijaya Singh and his clan (Aryans) came from North India and landed in Hela Diva and mixed with the Hela tribes that lived in Sri Lanka and formed a Sinhala Nation under king Pandukabhaya. From that cross breeding the name Sinhala came to all the progeny of these immigrants (Singh + Hela = Sinhala), and the Sinhala race/nation already existed during king Tissa’s period when Mahinda Thero brought Buddhism to Sri Lanka and during King Devanampiya Tissa’s period the Sinhalese became Buddhists and the Sinhala-Buddhist society was established.

              And another group of Sinhalese-Buddhists by the name Hela Havula (Sinhalese literary organization founded by Munidasa Cumaratunga) have created a new theory (Siv + Hela = Sinhala) linking Ravana to the Sinhalas and totally contradicting the Mahavamsa to say that the Sinhalas are the original natives of Sri Lanka (even before Ravana) from the four tribes known as Siv-hela (Deva, Naga, Yakka, & Rakhsasa) and not migrants from India as mentioned in the Mahavamsa. Their theory is purely based on the Indian epics Ramayana and Mahabaratha. Some of them even want to add the Mahayana Buddhist text Lankavatara Sutta which is based on Ramayana to Sinhala-Buddhism.

              Unfortunately, none of the above versions have any archeological/epigraphic evidence in Sri Lanka or India and the present day historians do not accept any of the above as true. Till now, the actual history of Sri Lanka (Sinhalese and Tamils) is not likely to be concluded and we still have to wait for more archeological discoveries for any breakthrough.

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              Messenger,
              I must first say I am no historian. So, I cannot give you specifics pages you are asking. But I can give you a link to Wikipedia pages undisputed ones at that where you can explore more on what I wrote if you’re interested.
              http://www.qesign.com/offer.php?x=Naga_people_(Sri_Lanka)

              wikipedia.org/wiki/Naga_people_(Sri_Lanka)

              Neither Nalin de Silva nor Gunadasa Amarasekara claimed to be historians. They’ve always quoted the source. One source Nalin quote most of the time is the Ph.D thesis of Karthigesu Indrapala. Swarnawahini says, they’ll repeat the program from Jan 2003. So you can find out scholars that participated in the program yourself.

              Are you claiming that the Nagas were Tamils?

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              messenger,
              I forgot that you wrote; “do not tell us that Leela is your real name”

              I gave the name that every one calls me as well as my address.

              Is ‘messenger’ your name messenger?
              Leela

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              So Leela, as Kumar Joseph says you are a totally confused guy who do not know what you are saying.

              You issued a statement and said “according to our chronicles”, when I asked you where it is said you are finding some excuses/escape routes. If you do not know what you are talking about, that also in a public forum, then better not say it and become a laughing stock.

              The link you gave talks about Nagas. Nowhere in history it is said that the Nagas became Sinhalese. During the early historic period there were Nagas living in South India and Sri Lanka. Naga Pattinam, Naga Kovil, etc are places in Tamil Nadu where Nagas lived.

              I am not saying that the Nagas were Tamils but Are you telling us that the Nagas were Sinhalese or they became Sinhalese? Where is the evidence?

              Nagas might be the ancestors of both Sinhalese and Tamils.

              Dr S. Paranavitana, the former Archaeological Commissioner and a famous historian stated: ‘Thus the vast majority of the people who today speak Sinhalese or Tamil must ultimately be descended from those autochthonous people of whom we know next to nothing’.

              Do not bluff in a public forum if you are not sure what you are saying. No wonder the Veddha boy has ignored you completely, it is not worth responding to your rubbish.

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              Villager

              Godaya of Vattukkottai fame Leela,

              “They’ve always quoted the source. One source Nalin quote most of the time is the Ph.D thesis of Karthigesu Indrapala.”

              Could you find out from Nalin …………….and like minded revisionist lay historians whether they themselves had read the thesis.

              This was a thesis written 47 years ago based on information and evidence available to him at the time of writing it.

              Since then Eminent scholars have produced volumes of research materials and with the information flowing he has also updated his conclusions in his latest books and articles.

              Recently Prof Pathmanathan and other scholars have seen 2200 years old Tamil Brahmi writings in the East.

              By the way read the following excerpt:

              Some Tamil Sangam poets were Nagas from Jaffna. The original language of the Nagas was perhaps Elu, a word from which Ceylon got the name ‘Eelam’. But before the Ariyanisation of Ceylon, Tamil was perhaps the language of the Nagas and was spoken in Ceylon.(3) Among the Sangam poets mentioned is Illattup Putantevanar, who composed some verses in Kuruntokai, Akananuru and Narrinai. The Mahavamsa states that in the 6th century B.C. there existed Naga strongholds at Nagadipa under Mahodarai, the Naga King. (4)Among the Sangam works, a few personalities who were referred to as ‘chieftains’ appear to have come from Jaffna. For example Elini (5) and Pittankorran (6)about whom verses appear in the Purananuru, appear to have come from Kudiraimalai, now identified with Kantherodai in Jaffna.

              The Tamil Kingdom in Jaffna
              Early Beginnings to the Court of the Ariya Chakravartis
              Dr.H.W.Tambiah

              http://tamilnation.co/conferences/cnfTN68/tambiah.htm

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              To Kumar Joseph and all others interested in this discussion.

              I have said before that I am no historian. Are you a historian Kumar?

              Anyway, whatever you are, none can stop you or any other imagining Vijay and 700 men taking Tamil wives to form the Sinhala race. Does it matter? What matters is they were assimilated and become Sinhala in the end. King Gajaba said to have brought 50,000 or so from India when he was returning after victory. However, those who come up with such stories have to substantiate it with their own chronicles or some other chronicle backed by inscriptions and/or monuments or both. Otherwise, all such stories go astray soon.

              Indian excavations in Sanchi and other locations, confirm the Mahavamsa account of the Empire of Asoka. The accounts given in it are also amply supported by the numerous stone inscriptions, mostly in Sinhala, found in Sri Lanka. If so we need not talk more to prove authenticity of Mahawamsa?

              This ‘pure thing’ is absurd; Maha Vihara tradition accepts anyone to it so long as they accept its traditional vinaya. I have never ever read Anagarika Dhammapala saying Sinhalas are pure and they have to stay pure. He only struggled to awaken the Sinhala race and the need to get back their rightful place and their duty to protect Buddhism and Buddhist heritage.

              Everything that Nalin and Amarasekara wrote was based on scholarly source. They never tried to create history. It was “Mahavamsa bashing” by Tamil racist Ponnambalam who claimed most of the Sinhala kings, including Vijaya, Kasyapa, and Parakramabahu were Tamils in the 1930s were without source.

              Kumar, you’re confused of ‘Hela Havula’. It was a Sri Lankan literary organization first established in 1941 that advocate “amisra Sinhala”, meaning non mixed use of the Elu terms over the Sanskritic ones. Beside Munidasa Kumaratunga, musician, Sunil Shantha Fr. Moses A. Perera, poet Fr. Marcelline Jayakody, Rev. Raphael, Ven. Tirikunamale Ananda and so many others joined it when it was incorporated in 1985. You are mixing it with Hela Urumaya my dear.

              Dr S. Paranavithana’s ‘The Kingdom of Jaffna’, p.3, and Indrapala Kthirgesu’s Ph.D thesis clearly says there is no acknowledgeable Tamil history before 11 th century in this country. All chronicles, inscriptions of Tamil history are in Tamil Nadu. So how could new archaeological discoveries introduce something there isn’t. New archaeological discoveries would only prove Mahawamsa writing better.
              Leela

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              Vedda,
              Like C Wijewickrama said I too would say come up with your true identity if you want me to reply you.
              Leela

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              messenger,
              You asked me many questions. I gave you my answer even though it wasn’t satisfactory for you.

              This you keep asking questions and I carry on giving you detailed answers wont do. Instead of giving me a lecture on how to perform in a public forum and ask more questions you should have had the decency to answer my questions as well. You answered none.

              Are you claiming that the Nagas were Tamils?
              What ever happened to those Nagas, Yaksas, Rakhsas and Devas if they were not assimilated to emerging Sinhala race?

              To add more to my answer, I say; Mahawamsa doesn’t say in one sentence or paragraph that all those tribes were assimilated in one go to be Sinhalas. It may well have been like Goviya became kovia in the North. The fact that Mahawamsa says that Pandukabhaya’s father is Yakkha and Kashappa’s mother is also a Yakkha and in the fiftees or sixtees one Jayasena claiming he is the last of the Yakkha is enough to assume what had happened to those races gradually.

              Identical Tamils to Tamils here are there in Tamil Nadu. But there are no Sinhalas like that anywhere in the world.
              Leela

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              Leela,

              If you had read the Mahavamsa you will come to know that Vijay and 700 men took wives from the Pandu (Pandya) kingdom of Madurai in South India to form the Sinhala race. It can be the imagination of the Mahavamsa author.

              Regarding the authenticity of Mahawamsa, so you accept the Human-Animal sexual union (half lion and half human) Sinhala story? Just because Mahavamsa account of the Empire of Asoka is confirmed that does not mean that it is authentic.

              Please read about what Anagarika Dhammapala saying Sinhalas are pure Ariyans and should not mix with others. You will find it everywhere (eg; Wikipedia).

              Nalin and Amarasekara wrote from scholarly sources that are obsolete (eg: Indrapala’s 1965 PhD thesis that Indrapala himself has discarded) or from some unpublished half baked Scholars.

              What makes you think that Kasyapa, and Parakramabahu were Sinhalese? Is there any source to prove that they were Sinhalese. Even the Mahavamsa or the stone inscriptions found so far does not say they were Sinhalese.

              Consider King Parakrambahu the great of Sri Lanka – His father was a Tamil prince Manabharanan (Mitta, the sister of Vijayabahu I, was given in marriage to a Pandyan Prince Manahbarana, Kitti Sri Megha and Sri Vallabha are the three sons by this union. Parakramabahu is the son of Manabharana and Ratnavali, daughter of Vijayabahu and his Tamil queen, Thilokasundari. Parakramabahu I thus coming of Tamil lineage), his Grandfather was a Tamil King of Pandiyan Kingdom, his wife was a Tamil named Ulaka Maha Devi alias Leelavathi, he didn`t have a son and he adopted a Tamil named Senpaka Perumal (Sapumal Kuamarya) as his Son. His Chief Minister was a Tamil named Vira Alakeshwaran. He puts up a stone inscription in front of his palace in Tamil (The pillar of stone inscription in Tamil is at the entrance that leads to the Palace of King Parakramabahu the great), then why on earth, they are calling him as a Sinhala King?

              The Mahawamsa NEVER says that Pandukabhaya’s father is Yakkha and Kashappa’s mother is also a Yakkha. Are you inventing something new?
              Not only Jayasena, even Leela can claim to be from the Yakkha, but unfortunately without any evidence.

              Please read more about the ‘Hela Havula’ group and what they are trying to proclaim. I am NOT talking about Hela Urumaya, I am talking about Hela Havula.

              You are talking about what Dr S. Paranavithana and Indrapala Kthirgesu said in 1960s. Within the last four decades they have discovered many artifacts to disprove what was said in the 60s. Indrapala Kthirgesu has very clearly mentioned this in all his new publications. What they said in the 60s is not valid anymore.

              Regarding the Nagas, I think Native Vedda has already given you the answer. What happened to the Nagas, Yaksas, Rakhsas and Devas if they were not assimilated to emerging Sinhala race? Why only Sinhala race, they must have also assimilated to the Sri Lankan Tamil race. As Dr S. Paranavithana says we know next to nothing about them.

              Goviya became kovia in the North? Who invented this story? Kovia is a caste in Jaffna that originated from Kovilar (temple workers). It existed even in the 17th century. If you read the history of the Govigama caste, it originated much later.

              The people of Tamil Nadu look very similar to the Sinhalese also. The latest DNA studies shows that both Tamils and Sinhalese have the same genetic marker M20.

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              If Indrapala has discarded the thesis he himself wrote for his PhD as you say, never mind when he wrote it, he should give up his false PhD and write a new thesis with new research and get a true and a real PhD. But he hasn’t done so to-date. As has been always the case, we know that Indrapala was forced to withdraw his writing by murderous LTTE and its backers and warped history writers of the Thambiah type.

              Have you heard Romulus and Remus and the she wolf of Rome? If so, take Sinhabahu as a man brave like lion but not as an animal.

              I wrote why Mahawamsa should be considered authentic and also quoted few other sources to prove few things that I wrote. You rejected them and said, all our Kings were Tamil. However, you have no Tamil chronicles or Tamil inscriptions to prove it. You have nothing of the sort here but in India. Indian chronicles say very little about thing here. Surely, if Tamils were here they couldn’t have been unlettered hunters like Vedda.

              I wrote that we Sinhalas follow Maha Vihara tradition. So we accept anyone to become Sinhala. That racist Hoole knows it. That’s why he said he’d rather be an Indian than a Sinhala.

              OK, my question now: If we accept your presumption for argument sake that all those kings like Parakramabahu were Tamil, then Sinhala race and their language shouldn’t be much more than 1000 years old. That’s what a normal Tamil was trained to believe. Still, we have developed Sinhala as an independent language with a unique script and alphabet during that short time. Maldivians, a much smaller population than Tamils of Sri Lanka too have developed their own language Divehi in less than 1000 years.

              Though many Tamils like MP for Bati claims a 5000 year old history to this Island and not to mention Ravana, they have the same culture and speak exactly the same language as Madrasis speak today. Why?
              Leela

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              Villager and Navin,

              Indrapala has explained very clearly why he discarded his (obsolete) 1965 PhD thesis. Mahavamsa is a historical Fiction. Why should Tamils write chronicles when ola leaves were available to them in plenty. All the ola leaves (ancient Tamil writings) were preserved in the Jaffna library and you know what your people did to it.

              If you want to know about the Sinhala race and their language please read the following articles (Yes Navin, I quoted from these articles):

              http://dbsjeyaraj.com/dbsj/archives/1886
              http://dbsjeyaraj.com/dbsj/archives/1922
              http://dbsjeyaraj.com/dbsj/archives/1954
              http://dbsjeyaraj.com/dbsj/archives/1956
              http://dbsjeyaraj.com/dbsj/archives/3031

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    Mr. Lasantha Pethiyagoda is a sober, serious and objective commentator in these columns and, therefore, I wish to engage his comments.

    “Sri Lanka, a small island nation with several ethnic groups does not seem like a viable place to be subdivided along ethnic lines. In such an event all minorities would need to be given a separate piece of land to call their own”

    – Good Sir, As you will acknowledge until around 1505 the island remained the home of two races and 3-4 kingdoms for millentia – of which one Tamil. If continuous Sinhala dominated Govts from 1956 refuse, in other words, the right of the Tamils to rule themselves allowed to all other Provinces, then you make change inevitable.

    “Presently there is a surplus of politicians at several levels of government; i.e. central, regional or provincial etc”

    – I am in total agreement with your thoughts. While, for long, I remained a believer in the Cabinet form of government and Cabinet responsibility, judging by the familial rule that is in place for some years now it is in the interest of the public’s finances the entire set of Ministers, State Ministers, Chief Ministers are got rid of.

    ” Furthermore, if a minority group identified by ethnic dimensions (ie Tamil) are assigned a separate state…”

    – Separate State is no longer in the political discourse. The Tamil political formation has dropped this at the instance of India, the USA,
    EU, Japan and our other friends. Please note the concession is not because it lacks justice or validity. What is under contention is a Provincial Council for the Northern Province – eventually and now “kindly allowed” by the Rajapakse family to take place late this year.

    In response to your comments about “the partition of India in 1947” please note even after the partition there were more Muslims in India than in Pakistan – until the statistics changed recently. While the theocratic State of “Islamics Only” Pakistan has since struggled with its own unity and survival majority – Hindu-majority India produced a Muslim Indian as President; more than one as Vice Presidents; several senior Cabinet Ministers, Governors, Supreme Court Chief Justices. Some of India’s industrial billionaires are Muslims (Wipro’s Premjee, the Delhi Cloth Mill Group of Nusli Wadia – two that come to my mind. I believe Wadia is a grand son of the founder of Pakistan) In the culture we are fated to endure, the encouraging developments of post-partition India I mention is unlikely to take place here.

    As to your comments of “crazy” PM’s, allow me to remind you the great Margaret Thatcher vilified Nelson Mandela as late as the mid-1980s and called the ANC “an impossible dream” Israel/many Western countries ridiculed the PLO, which now enjoys UN Observer Status. Sudan is in two units. Mindanao in the Phillipines secured its right to self-rule recently.

    Personally, I have my own reservations about the TGTE as I believe we can still make it as a united country. But it is best to engage them and see how their needs can be met diplomatically rather than dismiss them as irrelevant.

    Best Wishes.

    Senguttuvan

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    Grateful to reader Kumar Joseph for adding quality and substance to the debate. My take is when Colebrook-Cameron arrived to prepare their debate, there was no inkling in their mind what then was accepted as
    “Great Britain” on which (British Empire) it was believed the sun never sets.

    This recommendation – for reasons of “administrative convenience” in unifying the different kingdoms in the island – was the first stone unintentionally cast to obliterate, gradually as it were, Tamil history and dominance in their parts in the Island. I notice reference to the “Federal” form of governance then – in your comment. The less-lettered but visionary DSS took over, fresh from wisdom accumulated from the lessons of that pseudo-nationalist Anagarika Dharmapala (who found a willing collaborator in AE Gunasinha (1940s) who handed over the baton to R. Premadasa – one of the Sinhala heroes of 7/83) DSS’s pet project to reduce Tamils into an ineffective and voiceless minority – first in the Eastern Province and then in the Northern Province – by State-inspired Colonisation schemes has gathered momentum under SWRD, Mrs B, Dudley, JRJ and CBK. Under the Sinhala hawks identified as the Rajapakse regime the project has momentum and enthusiasm not seen before – with the army providing the muscle. It is common knowledge individuals within both the army and the polity personally benefitted from mis-appropriated Tamil lands so that any occasional thought of justice and the law became secondary. The reality today is the Tamils, who were the dominant community in the EP (Trinco, Batti Districts in particular) are now, in many areas, the 3rd largest community there. The pet project is calculated to subject the Northern Province in the next few years to a similar fate so that the Rajapakses can go down in Sinhala history as those who successfully carried forward in modern times the highly romanticised profile of the Thusta Kamkini-Ellalan battle.

    But then both Napoleon and Hitler had carefully crafted plans to rule
    Russia but matters did not turn out the way they hoped, as we saw.
    Today it is far more a caring world that has the globally-sanctioned legal mechanism to set wrongs of history and adventurism right.

    History has provided the Rajapakse Family an unprecedented opportunity of providing victory to the Sinhala Nation to guarantee their pet aversion of a long rule and long-due justice to the Tamils.
    How they manage this delicate task will determine the course of the present and future for all Sri Lankans.

    Senguttuvan

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    VR

    I think you have started blabbering again. You seem to dream quite often and come out with some crappy old stories. Sometime ago you were emphasizing on Tamils being a Political Community. These craps are acknowledged by congenitally imbecile Tamils but not by the intellectuals. You think that the North is occupied by Tamils. No it’s a cosmopolitan area occupied by Malayalis, Telugus, Karnataka, and Marathis etc. Historically the North was a Buddhist Sinhala country, but the people were slaughtered by the invaders.

    Ellalan, who was a Marathi was pushed out of Chola Rata, came to SL and established his kingdom in Anuradhapura. Do you know how many Sinhala people him and his soldiers slaughtered during the invasion. Don’t tell me that Ellalan was invited and garlanded by the Sinhala people? Most surrounding kingdoms were sacred, but one brave soldier “Dutu Gamunu”, thought he should drive the beggar invaders out. He marched from Ruhunu through Polannaruwa and fought direct with Ellalan and captured the kingdom. That’s honesty and bravery, isn’t it? NOT like V Prabakaran, hiding behind Tamils and shoot the army soldiers.

    VR: The Tamils in SL are invaders and illegal settlers. Best thing for you to cut the crappy stories of two nations and allow the Tamils to consolidate and live in peace. Within your mind, you do not care a dam about Tamils in SL.

    Tamils have a country in the map. That’s Tamil Nadu. Therefore join Vaiko and concentrate in liberating Tamil Nadu to be a free country. Then you can go there and make your dreams come through.

    There is no Elam in SL. Elam was a country in Persia 2500BC. Please read history matey. You may be a lawyer, but no one care a dam about what you say. My resolution for 2013 is one: Neutralise and eliminate TGTE.

    Sometimes your sound like Alibaba and the 40th…

    SriLanka is one country, and Tamils could share power with the government by accepting one or two portfolios. That is the limit matey.

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      My resolution for 2013 is one: Neutralize and eliminate TGTE.

      What I mean is:- neutralize the TGTE and make TGTE body dissolve and become inactive and allow the Tamils to live in peace.

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      Ha, ha, ha

      Sandilyan has invented some new history, looks like his-story, very creative fellow.

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      Sandilyan

      “No it’s a cosmopolitan area occupied by Malayalis, Telugus, Karnataka, and Marathis etc”

      I like your sense of humour which is rare among the Stupid Tamils and stupid Sinhalese.

      You continue your sense of humour:

      “Don’t tell me that Ellalan was invited and garlanded by the Sinhala people?”

      The Mahawamsa says he was on an extended holiday, he and other South Indians liked kicking Tamil and Sinhala ar..s.

      There was another story about him. According to Sinhala/Buddhist traditions he came to Sri Lanka on a working visa.
      On completion of his contract he Refused to go back and then Duttu killed him.

      You say:

      “The Tamils in SL are invaders and illegal settlers.”

      I agree with you completely. So are the Sinhalese according to Sinhala/Buddhist traditions.

      It is high time both people left my ancestral island.

      You say:

      “SriLanka is one country”,

      You can keep the country if you so wish as long as you return the island to my people that would be fine.

      Thanks for your immense contribution to comedy.

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      It takes my breath away when I hear people whose ancestors came all the way from distant North India calling the Tamils as invaders. If Tamils were invaders, I suppose Sinhalese (Vijaya’s descendants) must be tourists.

      Just imagine if king Elara had chased out his son and his cronies because they were molesting women etc, and their boat drifted and landed in Sinhapura, North India and then started calling the North Indians as invaders.

      It is like the white Australians calling the aborigines as invaders or the white people in Africa calling the Africans as invaders.

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    Native Veddah (Jan 03 – 11.43 pm) Have you noticed one of the frauds
    you mention – a recently promoted chauvinist to a position he messes
    day by day – tries to take advantage of the foolish Sinhala
    masses by grotesquely suggesting he has connections to Patalipura n India, which is another way of saying he is connected to The Buddha lineage wise. So this is the 2nd Sinhala relative of the Buddha – the other being of the kudu variety. I am told this fraud was born to another religion and became a Buddhist for political upward mobility.
    What strange creatures we have to share this planet with???

    Senguttuvan

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      Senguttuvan

      Thanks for the tip.

      I have always said these people were from India and it is only reasonable for them to get back to their motherland.

      A section of the Sinhala/Buddhists believe they the descendants of Sakiya Muni, the Buddha.

      Where did you read this news about Buddha’s relative? I was too busy collecting honey I have completely missed this story. I need to have the evidence in order to throw him out of my ancestral land under 1948 Citizenship Act.

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    Navin

    “What I have stated above is what is generally accepted as facts.”

    By whom?

    Popes believed the Earth was flat. Just because Popes believed it was flat do you want people to stop discovering truth?

    “You are not the only one out there with a different version of history”

    I am only trying to put the records straight or find truth. Whatever you studied had changed over a period of time when new information emerged.

    White man thought India was a primitive country and took upon himself to civilise it until Harappa and Mohandajaro were discovered in the 1920s.

    The stupid Sinhalese and stupid Tamils didn’t know or won’t accept they are genetically closely related to not only to each other but to the stupid Tamilnadu Tamils. This fact came to light only after scientific discoveries of DNA studies improved. This field of science was not there about 100 years ago.

    What you learn now can become outdated by the time you finish reading it.

    If you believe your history can stand scrutiny why not engage in discussion?

    When you state something that is not based on evidence you are not only making Sri Lankan history a mockery but also exposing yourself to ridicule.

    Remember Garbage in Garbage out.

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      I’m well aware of how human knowledge in various fields change with time. I also know that just because someone publishes a new paper claiming something, that is not new knowledge. I keep my self updated as time permits on numerous opinions held by erudite people but I will not commit to any particular point of view for they must first stand the test of time.

      Researchers can be very passionate about their discoveries but that doesn’t mean they are any more credible. With Sri Lankan history, one has to be particularly careful for there are so many pseudo-historians writing very convincing tales about what happened or not and about purported evidence. Likes of Sudarshan Senevirathne have said history is best left to historians to debate, though he himself to the best of my knowledge has only published about the very early history of the island and South India.

      While my study of history was some time back, the facts I studied or at least what I recall still stand when compared with contemporary writings. I’m not inclined to spend time googling books and articles to make my point for one, I do not think that level of detail is required to debunk the opinion that present day North and Eastern provinces constitute the borders of Tamil homeland, two there is little agreement about what happened when you get down to the level of names, places, maps, dates etc. Hence, to say so and so has said there was a Tamil settlement here or there means nothing.

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        Navin,

        You sound like a total ignorant. Try to learn some basic stuff.

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          I have learnt enough to identify wheat from the chaff.

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            Navin

            After spending many years bashing the Tamils with your perverted Champika brand of history you have reached a point where you “can’t see the wood for the trees”.

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            Ha,ha,ha

            What is wheat for one man is chaff for another and vice vesa but you seem to be either confused or ignorant or both.

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              Messenger says:

              “you seem to be either confused or ignorant or both.”

              Navin is both, after having large quantities of lethal cocktail of Sinhala/Buddhist nationalism based on perverted history distilled by Anagarika (the homeless one), ….. lately by Kamalika, Nalin, Champika and others.

              Please leave him alone for he wants to remain ignorant forever.

              By the way tell me about Tamil history in the island.
              As far as I am concerned Tamils and Sinhalese are Kallathonies from India. Both came to my ancestral land either as economic refugees or asylum seekers.

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        Navin says:

        “Sudarshan Senevirathne have said history is best left to historians to debate,”

        I agree with him completely.

        However when stupid Tamils and stupid Sinhalese put across their version of perverted history eminent scholars like him don’t seem to intervene and correct flawed version perhaps for the fear of being branded as traitors by their own parochial nationalists.

        Why are you dwelling on a subject that you have not or refused to update when you too agree on history is best left to historians to debate?

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