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Understanding Islamic Terrorism

By Izeth Hussain

Izeth Hussain

Izeth Hussain

Many Muslims may find the above title objectionable on the ground that the term “Islamic terrorism” is completely meaningless. At the core of terrorism is the killing of innocent people and Islam is most emphatically against that, so that “Islamic terrorism” amounts to a contradiction in terms. Furthermore, many Muslims would point out that non-Muslims who use the term Islamic terrorism are doing so hypocritically because they never spoke of Catholic terrorism when the IRA and the Basques perpetrated terrorist acts. There we have the crux of the problem. The IRA and the Basques never claimed that they were perpetrating terrorism to further Catholicism. On the other hand the IS and the Boko Haram have engaged in terrorism avowedly to inaugurate the Islamic millennium. So it is arguably legitimate to talk of Islamic terrorism provided it is borne in mind that we are talking of an aberrant form of Islam.

To understand Islamic terrorism we must first of all understand Islamic fundamentalism, because that was the matrix from which Islamic terrorism emerged. I must now contextualize Islamic fundamentalism. From the second half of the nineteenth century, perhaps even earlier, it came to be realized that there were two ways in which traditional societies could cope with the challenge of modernity. At that time Western imperialism was at its .apogee, and therefore it was an aggressive modernity that had to be countered. One way was a forward-looking reform movement in which Islam was adapted to modernity. That was the movement begun by Jamaldin el-Afghani in the late nineteenth century, a movement that counted among its luminaries the great poet Iqbal and received its classic statement in Ameer Ali’s The Spirit of Islam. I believe that that led to the liberal form of Islam that prevails in the greater part of the Islamic world today. The other way is through a return to the sources which has resulted in several forms of what might be broadly called fundamentalism. Ostensibly fundamentalism is regressive, but it too is arguably forward-looking because it wants to reinvigorate Islam by returning to its pure pristine form. That, for the fundamentalist, would be the best way of countering modernity.

Screengrab of members of the Islamist group Ansaru which claims to have killed seven foreign workersIn the late ‘seventies of the last century, suddenly and unexpectedly and rather mysteriously, fundamentalism entered a new phase. Karen Armstrong began her book Battle for God (2000) with the following sentence: “One of the most startling developments of the late twentieth century has been the emergence within every major religious tradition of a militant piety popularly known as ‘fundamentalism’”. She wrote that only a small number of them engage in acts of terror but even the most peaceful and law-abiding of them are perplexing “because they seem so adamantly opposed to many of the most positive values of modern society. Fundamentalists have no time for democracy, pluralism, religious toleration, free speech or the separation of Church and State.” Caroline Fourest and Fiametta Venner in their book Tir Croises (2003) noted that the fundamentalists of the three monotheisms, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, had asserted themselves powerfully in the late ‘seventies within an astonishingly short period of time.

I will now quote what the Pope said about fundamentalism during his recent African tour. He called it “a disease of all religions. …. Fundamentalism is always a tragedy. It is not religious, it lacks God, it is idolatrous.” I wish that he had expanded on that very interesting statement. He said that Islam was not the only religion to suffer from violent extremists, such as those involved in the Paris attacks. “We Catholics, we have a few, even many fundamentalists. They believe they know absolute truth and corrupt others”.

I must now veer away from my main narrative and set down one of the main reasons why I have quoted the Pope. This is a time of spreading Islamophobia, both abroad and within Sri Lanka. We all know of the significant role played by Buddhist Islamophobia, as exemplified by the BBS, in bringing down the Rajapakse Government. The BBS has continued to be active in spreading Islamophobia at the grass roots level – a fact that is for some reason excluded from the mainstream media. On Tamil Islamophobia, which seems to be much more intense than that of the Sinhalese,

I have already written a two-part article. But I am told by one of my best-informed Muslim contacts that Christian Islamophobia in Sri Lanka is the worst of all. He had in mind particularly what he called Zionist Christians, a segment of Christians who for religious and other reasons have a peculiarly intense devotion to Israel. It was they, he believes, who instigated the BBS, whose main backers are believed to be in Christian Norway. I must add that I am sometimes sent material from Islamophobic web-sites, possibly run by Christian groups, material that is mind-boggling for its ignorance and silliness about Islam. Anyway I have quoted the Pope hoping his fair-minded comments could serve as an antidote to Christian Islamophobic idiocy.

I now return to my main narrative. Since the late ‘seventies, fundamentalism has become a significant factor in all the main world religions. What is the explanation? It is a complex and difficult question, but it seems to me that the following quotation from Karen Armstrong’s Battle for God gets at the root of the matter: “Throughout this book we shall see that the modernization process can induce great anxiety. As their world changes, people feel themselves disoriented and lost. Living in media res, they cannot see the direction their society is taking,, but experience its slow transformation in incoherent ways. As the old mythology that gave structure and orientation to their lives crumble under the impact of change, they can experience a numbing loss of identity and a paralyzing despair. The most common emotions, as we shall see, are helplessness and a fear of annihilation that can, in extreme circumstances, erupt in violence. We see something of this in Luther. During his early life he was prey to agonizing depression. ……. To escape his depression, Luther plunged into a frenzy of activity determined to do what good he could in the world, but consumed also by hatred. Luther’s rage against the Pope, the Turks, Jews, women, and rebellious peasants – would be typical of other reformers in our own day, who have struggled with the pain of the new world and who have also evolved a new religion in which the love of God is often balanced by a hatred of other human beings”.

It seems to me that Karen Armstrong shows remarkable insight in noting that paradoxical combination of devotion to the transcendental with hatred towards other human beings, which seems to be common to fundamentalist movements cutting across all religious divides. As a Sri Lankan Muslim I believe that it has become extremely important to find an explanation for fundamentalism in order to be able to cope with it, as the Wahabi version of fundamentalism has been spreading here to an alarming extent. I must confess that Champika Ranawaka has been more insightful about it than I have been. Saudi financing can provide only a part, and only a superficial part, of the explanation. However, my main concern in this article is not so much to find an explanation for fundamentalism as to find an explanation for something else: Why is it that Islamic fundamentalism seems to be far more prone to violence than any other? For that explanation I have to depend on the brilliant theorizing of Emmanuel Todd in his book After Empire.

*To be continued

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    Why is it that Islamic fundamentalism seems to be far more prone to violence than any other?

    Well, the founder of Islam explicitly forbids Polytheism. All humanity must come under one god after demolishing all other gods.

    Monotheism is at the core of Islam. Its expressed at intellectual level, its expressed at fellowship level as well as in practice.

    Monotheistic ideologies can exist at religious level as well as cultural level.

    The Tamils also express Monotheism “sole reps” at intellectual, fellowship and in practice. The Tamils ethnicity cleansed Moslems from Jaffna. I know there is an irony here. That is also Monotheism albeit at a cultural level.

    Very simply Monotheistic ideologies and cultures are prone to violence because of intolerance of others.

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      Vibhushana,

      I am no scholar of religion.

      Monotheism? Only in Islam though?

      Isn’t that the same in Christianity?

      The first commandment reads:
      “You shall have no other gods before Me”

      Pretty much the same in Judaism, I presume.

      There you have the heart of intolerance & violence. For plus minus 2000 years now. And we are still not done. Still counting.

      Show must go on!

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        How does the commandment follow? Does it say this afterwards?

        Quran (2:191-193) – “And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. “

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          Vibhushana,

          What’s your point? If you have one.

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            whats my point??

            The founder of Islam commands his followers to kill all non-believers.

            Unlike in your religion some Islam followers seems to obey.

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              Vibhushana,

              Have you pondered upon the question what your fate should be, if your break the First Commandment in Christianity:
              “You shall have no other gods before Me”

              I don’t think it will be very different from Islam or Judaism. Sorry, but truth hurts.

              Do some research please. Let us know your findings. However unpleasant they may be.

              Thanks!

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              “The founder of Islam commands his followers to kill all non-believers.”

              The founder of Sinhala Buddhist commands his followers to kill all non-believers.!!

              the law of action and reaction brings about violence rebounding to violence.

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      Hussein says ” “Islamic terrorism” is completely meaningless”!

      Not for the victims of suicide bombings and other mass murders Hussaein.

      They believe in killing themselves for their extremist causes, hoping for the treatment by 72 virgins in heaven.

      Hopefully the bastards will meet one 72 yr old virgin!

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        One such bastard awoke after his bomb attack to find himself surrounded by shadowy figures in white gowns. He thought he had arrived in Paradise. Imagine his dismay when he discovered he was in an Israeli hospital!

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          [Edited out]

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          CT politics- has got smart for no reason- setting one against another.

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      Izeth Hussain

      RE: Understanding Islamic Terrorism

      The Title Should be Understanding Wahhabi Iblisic Terrorism

      One Set of Laws for Third World People. Another Set for First World Peole., another set for Iblis Follwing Wahhabi Saudi Arabians.

      Is This Islam? Is this Sharia Law? Is This Iblis Law or Gods Law?

      http://www.newindianexpress.com/world/Appeal-Holds-up-Stoning-to-Death-of-Lankan-Maid-in-Saudi-Arabia/2015/12/04/article3160990.ece1

      COLOMBO: The stoning to death of a Sri Lankan maid in Saudi Arabia for adultery, which was to take place on Friday according to media reports, has been held up by an appeal to the court to reconsider the sentence.

      The Lankan government has enabled the appeal.

      “Media reports that the execution is to be carried out today are not correct. The sentence cannot be carried out when an appeal is pending,” an authoritative source in the Lankan Ministry of External Affairs told Express.

      The name of the maid, her address in Lanka and her ethnicity are being kept under wraps as per her own request, media reports say. However, as per published reports, she is a 45 year old mother of three.

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      Izeth Hussain

      REL Understanding Saudi EWahhabi Islamic Terrorism

      Let us Look at Specific Examples. They All are Saudis or Saudi Trained. Saudi Arabia id the First ISIS state that Made It. They funded Al Nusra with the West, and trying to make the second ISIS state in Iraq and Syria… ISIS.

      Wahhabi Saudis are the curse of Mankind following the Iblis, Devil Satan. When people are infected , they kill .

      http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35015388

      San Bernardino attack: US ‘will not be terrorised’ – Obama

      President Barack Obama says the US “will not be terrorised” by Wednesday’s mass shootings in San Bernardino, California.

      “We are strong. And we are resilient,” he said in his weekly radio address, adding that it was “entirely possible” the two attackers had been radicalised.
      Syed Rizwan Farook, 28, and his wife Tashfeen Malik, 27, killed 14 people before being shot dead by police.

      The FBI is investigating the shootings as an “act of terrorism”.
      The Islamic State militant group on Saturday hailed the attack, saying it had been carried out by “two supporters of the Islamic State”.
      The statement, carried by IS’s al-Bayan radio, gave no indication that the group had any involvement in planning the shootings at the Inland Regional Center social services agency.

      What we know about shooting
      Who were the attackers?

      “We know that Isil [IS] and other terrorist groups are actively encouraging people – around the world and in our country – to commit terrible acts of violence, oftentimes as lone wolf actors,” Mr Obama said in his address.
      “All of us – government, law enforcement, communities, faith leaders – need to work together to prevent people from falling victim to these hateful ideologies.”
      Farook, who worked for the local health department, and Malik opened fire on an office Christmas party, killing 14 people and wounding 21.
      FBI officers are trying to recover data from two mobile phones that were found crushed in a waste bin near the scene.

      On Friday lawyers representing the attackers’ family said the relatives were “in complete shock” and that they had no idea the two had been capable of such an attack.

      Syed Rizwan Farook’s sister, Saira Khan, told CBS News: “I can never imagine my brother or my sister-in-law doing something like this, especially because they were happily married, they had a beautiful six-month-old daughter.”
      Tashfeen Malik was born in Pakistan and lived for 20 years in Saudi Arabia before moving back to her native country to go to university.

      She and Farook, a US national, met on Muslim dating websites, the New York Times quotes officials as saying. The new couple spent about a week in Saudi Arabia last year, before returning to the US together.

      She was granted a visa allowing people to enter the US to marry American citizens. Mr Chesley said Malik was very conservative. She did not interact with male family members and wore a burka, he said.
      Front-page editorial
      It is the deadliest mass shooting in the US since 26 people were killed at a school in Connecticut in 2012.
      The couple used handguns and automatic weapons that had been legally purchased in the US, police say.

      Bomb equipment, weapons and thousands of rounds of ammunition were later found in their home.

      In response to the shooting, the New York Times ran an editorial calling for stricter gun controls on the front page of Saturday’s print paper. It is the first time since 1920 that the paper has run an editorial on page one.
      “It is a moral outrage and national disgrace that civilians can legally purchase weapons designed to kill people with brutal speed and efficiency,” the opinion piece said.

      “America’s elected leaders offer prayers for gun victims and then, callously and without fear of consequence, reject the most basic restrictions on weapons of mass killing,” it added.

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      RE”Understanding Islamic Terrorism

      Understanding Western and Turkish and Saudi Terrorism

      Data in support of the Terrorists..

      America Supports ISIS.

      BREAKING: Russia’s Huge Announcement That Will Change The War

      Published on Dec 2, 2015
      In a huge stunning announcement just now by the Russian Foreign Minister, Russia presented direct evidence of Turkey buying illegal oil from the black market supporting terrorists. In this video we go over the important revelations by the Russians, its consequences and shift of the geo political field.

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      Izeth Hussain

      RE:Understanding Islamic Terrorism

      Two Islams: Mecca Islam- Peaceful Ideology and no growth

      Medina Islam- Violent – Political Islam, Violent Ideology and Growth

      Understanding Islamic Terrorism, means to understand Medina Islam

      That means Sharia, what Wahhabi and ISIS trying to do with the help of the West.

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    Izeth Hussain

    RE:Understanding Islamic Terrorism

    Thank you. This puts the various Terrorists in Proper perceptive.

    Terrorism Definition.

    1. In its broadest sense, terrorism is any act designed to cause terror. In a narrower sense, terrorism can be understood to feature a political objective. The word terrorism is politically loaded and emotionally charged.

    2. A broad array of political organizations have practiced terrorism to further their objectives. It has been practiced by both right-wing and left-wing political parties, nationalist groups, religious groups, revolutionaries, and ruling governments. The symbolism of terrorism can exploit human fear to help achieve these goals.

    3. “Religion is the Opium of the Masses” -Kark Marx

    ” Good People do good things. Bad People do Bad things. To Get Good people to do Bad things, it takes, Religion”- Steven Weinberg, Physics Nobel laureate.

    4. So we have (Abrahamic) Christian, Jewish, Muslim(Islamic), Buddhist. LTTE, Wahhabi, Hindu, Imperialist, Communist and Socialist Terrorism.

    5. The source of Terrorism for the Abrahamic Terrorists, Christian,Jewish and Islamic is God, or Confusion with the Satan. Inquisitions, Crusade Wars, Nazi extermination of Jews etc have as their root, the Abrahamic Concept of God ans Satan. So, BOTH the Bible and the Quran, can be considered as Handbooks for Abrahamic Terrorists.

    Kill the Infidel, Stone the adulterer, Idol worshiper, burn the astronomer etc.

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    The first victims of islamic fundamentalism are muslim women. From there it spreads out, and as seen with events in the US this week, the whole world is suffering at the hands of a relatively small number of muslims who are abusing the tenets of their religion to justify violence. It’s my understanding that “Islam” means peace. How ironic.

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      “The first victims of islamic fundamentalism are muslim women”

      Alas, “Sinhalese Buddhist” seems to be among the large mass of brain-washed media victims. It is common knowledge that abuse of women, which should be condemned, is a world-wide phenomenon, and not confined to a particular religious faith.

      In any event SB fails to clarify his comment. It is quite dangerous, and sometimes mischievous, to take isolated incidents in the Muslim world that are an aberration, and then extrapolate it to a generalistion.

      Islam means submission or surrender to the will of God, and one may thus extrapolate that to mean “peace”.

      Despite the media hype (driven by various constituents, more particularly the “fundamentalist” Jewish/Zionist and extreme right-wing Christian lobbies) ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Boko Haram etc are absolute aberrations, who certainly do not represent either Islam or the views of the 1.2 billion Muslims of the world.

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    Hi IH
    Does your understanding of Islamic terrorism include stoning to death.

    Perhaps why you are quiet on that subject.

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      [Edited out]

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    Why Allah Can not control it.

    Why you are not saying it is Allah wish ?

    why Allah cannot change if Allah is doing every thing ?

    Mr. Hussein start thinking as an intelligent human being and not talk like a parrot.

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    Terrorism is the plague of our supposedly now civilised lives. We have made, and continue to make, vast strides in the sciences to make our lives easier at every turn. We understand the humanities better, and enjoy the fruits that follow. Then we have the terrorism that blights our everyday lives. History is littered with the injustices committed in the name of gods.

    One would have thought that with the enlightenment that has washed over man in all these years, we would have seen through the controlling mumbo-jumbo of organised religion. We are, nearly all, entrapped by circumstances. We simply cannot breakaway from the stranglehold of a quirk of birth. If we were born with free wills, then circumstance has led us involuntarily into submission. To have visited on us all the religious norms and baggage that our ancestors have slavishly followed; yes, even having our genitalia interfered with in the name of religious practice and custom.

    What a different world it would be if, when we become grown men and women, we reclaim our free will and put religion to the rational test. Question, challenge and put to the test all the controlling imperatives that we have been brainwashed with since birth. Damn the pogroms, the crusades, the jihads and all the other inequities that we have visited on each other in honour of a nameless, all ignoring god.

    If the current fear and loathing of fellow men is what religion has given us after all these years, then we would be better off ridding ourselves of this curse. We would surely be infinitely better off in placing our faith in respect and care for each other rather the contrasting vicissitudes of uncaring gods.

    Go in peace and care for each other as if you would for your own brother and sister.

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    Understanding Islamic terrorism I leave it to the scholars. Please tell us Mr Hussain how we can save our skin from Islamic terrorism. And how Muslim mothers can save their children becoming terrorists.

    Soma

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    The lethal drugs of religions must be banned all over the world to stop all the bloodshed in the name of religion:

    Didn’t Karl Marx say that religion is the opium of the masses?

    There are enough of other human differences, like language discrimination, color discrimination, poverty, etc. to fight for.

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      Thiru

      “Didn’t Karl Marx say that religion is the opium of the masses?”

      Not really.

      What he actually said:

      ‘Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.’

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    Whether we Muslims like it or not “Islamic Terrorism” is real and its here to stay for a long time to come. When we look at it majority of the conflicts going around in the world is related to Islamic Terrorism, be it in Middle East, Africa or Asia. Only exception for this was LTTE which has been squashed for good. = :)

    I am in the view no matter whatever the root causes gave rise to these terrorists it is not justifiable. Within a very short span of time the whole of middle east has been turned into utter chaos. On the other hand world would have been at different place if US lead coalition did not bomb IRAQ into oblivion.

    We have seen now just a handful of fanatics can kill scores of people in a matter of minutes. While the whole world cry about these murders in Palestine people are being killed on daily basis for years. Now the Palestinians have changed tack and are killing Israeli civilians knowing certain death will be the end result. According to a interview aired last night Palestinian teenages say detah now or later does not make a difference to them. As they are in a shit hole for ethernity.

    As long as the world powers fight their proxy wars in distant countries we are going to live with this for a long time to come. At the end of the day arms need to be sold prices of oil needs to be kept low in order for the west to hang on to world dominance. They don’t give a damn about few million deaths anywhere else wile they will count the few hundred deaths in their own countries as collateral damage.

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      Stop airbrushing
      Muslims are anti-social always trying to hide permitted polygamy.
      Tamils are conservative and Sinhalese are generally extrovert.

      Its bigotry, prejudice, racism and fear drive them apart.

      Our mind was originally an organ for sensing danger and preserving life.The human mind was created for sniffing food, and if after sniffing food, it can also sniff an abstract maths formula, that’s all to the good.

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        Muslims in Sri Lanka (other than the Malays Borah and other Pakistani/Indian minorities who make up less than 1% of the island’s Muslim population ) are a religious community. They are Tamil by ethnicity. A little bit of Arab amongst a few hundred Muslim families does not make them Moorish or Arab. You should correctly classify them as Tamil Muslims. Just like you state Arab Muslims ETC. Got it. Only in Sri Lanka has a religion become an ethnicity due to politics by the ruling Sinhalese and the selfish opportunistic power hungry Colombo/Kandy Tamil Muslim elite, to divide and rule the island’s Tamils to make them weak. Especially in the east/northwest parts of the island.

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          Still waters run deep.
          They are puppet on a string to do exactly what they do.
          The white mughals (Christians) run the world and the Arabs are their puppets- whats going on iraq/syria is a repeat of 500 years history.

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    Why is no one Describing the American Weapons Manufacturers, as TERRORISTS?

    They created the Means for Terrorism, in the First Instance!

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      Hamlet

      “Why is no one Describing the American Weapons Manufacturers, as TERRORISTS? They created the Means for Terrorism, in the First Instance!”

      Islamic Terrorism and Christian Terrorism wee there even before Columbus and Lief Erickson discovered the “New World” America.

      Then the Christians unleashed Christian Terrorism on the New World, and America was born years later.

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        Once America was born, cuckoos from every other country in the world rushed into to help the ‘Christian Terrorists’ build the most prosperous nation on earth and create a melting pot that has created a long queue waiting to get in and share the dream. Lol!

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          Spring Koha

          For your Information.Russia’s Huge Announcement That Will Change The War

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMnl0nO-oCk

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            Amere is still in the days of the October Revolution promoting I_slam humanity as extra, Allah has taken your sanity Ampare boy!!

            Putin planting culture vulture coming!

            Putin says only a mad man would fight NATO.!

            totally disappointed he goes planting wheat (needs less water than rice) saying.

            Putin wants Russia to become world’s organic food superpower but first hopes to clip Turkey’s wings- unfortunately for him the Dutch are number one of at Biotech Europe and can clip his wings with an engineered bumble bee (used to pollinate for flowers, nuts fruits)

            Go trim yourself old man Putin nor Russia can do a thing because the Pipe line like East India Company is too big a business to fail. Iraq, Syria Turkey to Europe for 50 years – like Aramco it would be Oil city with IC governance no muslims only dead ones.

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    Until the fall of the Berlin Wall and the subsequent balkanization of the former USSR, the bogey of the ‘Communist at the Gates’ was used very effectively by successive American Governments to scare the US public into supporting any and all measures undertaken by the State ostensibly for their protection. With the withering away of the ‘Communist’ threat, a new enemy was identified ‘at the Gates’ by the State so that they could justify continuing with their previous strategic decisions. In identifying and enhancing the threat of this new enemy, the Islamic Terrorist, the US Governments were aided and abetted by the Jewish-dominated international mass media.

    Twenty five years after the fall of the Berlin Wall, ‘Islamic Terrorism’ stands as the only form of ‘terrorism’ that confronts the World today. No one speaks of or even dares to mention the wanton killings, destruction, devastation and misery brought upon many Muslim Countries by the World Policemen in pursuit of such Islamic Terrorists. The possibility that the emergence of many ‘Islamic Terrorist’ groups was a direct result of such acts of ‘Western Terrorism’ is not even discussed, but simply attributed to the bare-faced lie that Muslims “ …hate our freedoms: our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to vote and assemble and disagree with each other”, which resonated with western public.

    The extent to which this cancer has and is continuing to spread is clearly evident even today when Sri Lanka is faced with the prospect of one of her daughters being stoned to death in Saudi Arabia. Although the situation calls for the closing of ranks amongst all Sri Lankans in order to conduct quiet, behind-the-scenes diplomatic negotiations, there are many who are making use of the opportunity to castigate and vilify the Sharia Laws and by association, the Muslim Community.

    And so the multipronged efforts of the Western nations at demonizing Islam continues ………

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    Mr. Hussein:[Edited out]

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    Izeth Hussain

    Did you watch the face book revelation of Saudi man molesting a young Sri Lanka/Kerala woman in his kitchen that was secretly filmed by his wife and put on the facebook.

    Instead of stoning to death of this Mulla Mohamed under Sharia law, his wife was fined $160,000 for publicising and complaining to the police.

    There is no need to go out of the way to understand Islamic terrorism. It is inherent and part and parcel of Islam.

    If I was born a Muslim woman in Saudi, I would have fought against the awful lawlessness of the law makers and made sure testicles of the sex manics are publicly chopped away under the amended or newly (modern) interpreted Sharia law. I would have done the first act of chopping.

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      Nirmala N

      “If I was born a Muslim woman in Saudi, I would have fought against the awful lawlessness of the law makers and made sure testicles of the sex manics are publicly chopped away under the amended or newly (modern) interpreted Sharia law. I would have done the first act of chopping.”

      You are better off forming the Women’s Assassins Squad to assassinate these “Muslim” men. That way no need to stone to death and chop heads.

      Why only chop balls? Just terminate them.

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        Nirmala,
        But today majority of the suicide bombers and shooters are females.

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          Ram

          “But today majority of the suicide bombers and shooters are females.”

          So, they do not even have balls! See what brainwashing can do.

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    Stoning to death a woman is also terrorism …

    To this day 250,000 Arab Muslims are begging in Europe for political asylum to escape from this terrorist religion…hundred thousands are begging at the infidel country boarders begging to allow them

    Thanks to Hungary and Slovakia who have closed their boarders to these fanatics followers

    But these Muslims are ready to eat food cooked by infidels and use products made by infidels ..when they are at refugee camps …without shame..without dignity

    Slavery and Terrorism are created by this fanatic faith …

    Sens back these Arabs and followers to 4th century life ….

    Cheers

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    Izeth Hussain’s oblique attempt to whitewash the Islamic Terrorism in the middle east, and elsewhere, is pathetic.
    ISIS is the most obscene, horrible terror organisation ever.
    It practises Crucifixion, Stoning to Death, Beheading, Cutting off limbs, Gang Rape, Market Sales of captured women to ISIS fighters, Compulsive “marriage” of captured young women to ISIS fighters, Mass Executions and Burials of humans who oppose/disregard the type of Islam of ISIS, Compelling children to become Suicide Bombers, Military “justice” for civil disputes, Execution for “apostasy”,
    & compulsive ‘taxation’ of populace to finance itself.

    The Boko Haram is almost similar.

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    “At the core of terrorism is the killing of INNOCENT PEOPLE people and ISLAM is most EMPHATICALLY against that..” says this unabashed apologist of the Global Islamic conquest agenda, mindless his folly is increasingly becoming the laughing stock of the readers. Izeth H seems to love conning the public.

    Iraq and Iran are two claiming to be devout Muslim countries assuring the world they follow the very essence of Islam. Yet, how is that when they went to destroy each other in the terrible War between them during 1980/1988 they knew very well millions of “innocent people” will suffer. But that is exactly what they did. They killed many of their own people using banned chemical weapons and material.
    So it is in the war the ISIS insanely carries on in the Levant – between Iraqis, Syrians, Kurds as well elsewhere in the Islamic word in West Asia.

    Therefore, where is the validity of the arguments of this self-claimed “brilliant intellectual”? The more he writes the more he makes a fool of himself.

    Backlash

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      This Backie is now almost certifiably insane.He quotes me as follows: “At the core of terrorism is the killing of innocent people and Islam is most emphatically against that”. That is a factually accurate statement. Only an ignoramus about Islam or a lunatic will deny that. In his attempted refutation he cites the Iran-Iraq war in which millions of innocents were killed.I was talking of terrorism, not of war. Only a lunatic will confuse the two.
      In his recent explosions of hatred against me Backie has shown that he is a stinky Islamophobe. He now provides further evidence of that. Christianity is against the killing of innocent people. That’s a fact It is also a fact that many more millions have been killed in internecine Christian wars than in internecine Muslim wars.Will Backie say that the second fact negates the first fact? He won’t because he has the double standards of an Islamophobic lunatic. The reader must note that because I made that statement about Islam being against the killing of innocent people, Backie characterises me as “this unabashed apologist of the Global Islamic conquest agenda”. How on earth does he make that inference from any of my sttements?. He is clearly far gone in Islamophobic lunacy.
      Backie keeps insisting like other Islamophobes that I am under ridicule and attack by not just Tamils but also by the Sinhalese and Muslims. The reader can easily see that Backie’s attack is in a class apart from the other 30 odd replies which at the most negative are no more than civilized dissent. Backie’s attack stands alone for its hysterical hatred and mad dog rage – mindless, folly, laughing stock, conning the public,makes a fool of himself and other gems. The plain truth is that I write articles of a certain quality which have drawn encomiums from eminent persons. Backie finds that unbearable. So, foam at the mouth and keep barking, Backie boy, keep barking. The IH caravan keeps moving. – IH

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        The nearly decade long armed conflict between the “brotherly Islamic States” of Iraq and Iran – that destroyed over 4 million lives on both sides – was not War in the accepted sense. The protocols of War such as formal declaration etc. were not followed. The UNO was not consulted. Therefore, it remains more an armed conflict by both blood-thirsty sides – the common feature being both sides were piously invoking Islam. At any rate, whether people die by armed conflicts described as war resulting in the deaths of a large numbers or lives lost in smaller numbers is irrelevant. Both involve the loss of large civilian casualties.

        This “many more millions have been killed in internecine Christian wars than in internecine Muslim wars” or the excuse in the global networks by Islamic apologists in recent days that of nearly 300 attacks on civilians in the US most were by Christians – are shallow and untenable excuses. The fact is the barbarity in St. Bernardono in as much as the New York 9/11 project, the Madrid Train bombings, the Bali bombings, the Mumbai mindless savagery, the Nairobi bombing, the Sinai downing
        of the Russian jet killing over 150 civilians, the Paris Massacre – and now the San Bernardino killings – and a thousand more were all committed invoking and under the Islamic label by diabolically radicalised Islamic young men and women often screaming Allahu Akbar (God is Great) once the deed is done.

        I do not want to inflict on the readership further in this acrimonious debate with this man who claims “I write articles of a certain quality which have drawn encomiums from eminent persons” I am one of many dozens in these pages who disagree.

        I regret Brian Seneviratne has unduly entered this fray. I have respect for BS – and have thus written – for his stand on the Tamil issue and, therefore, I do not want to write something unfavourable to BS. I believe BS has misled himself to believe HLDM and I are the same. Besides, it is clear BS has a grouse against HLDM.

        Backlash

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          In recent times Backie has tended to assume the persona of a reasonable man, probably because the principals backing Backie had advised him to do so. But he cannot help it – his mad dog rage against me keeps erupting. That was shown by his insane reaction to my simple statement of fact that Islam is against terrorism. He cited the Iran-Iraq War in refutation. I pointed out that that war had nothing to do with terrorism. He now argues that that was not “War in the accepted sense” because there was no declaration of war. Is Backie such an ignoramus that he is unaware of the fact that for decades the international practice has been to wage war without declaring war? For instance there was no declaration of war over Vietnam, but no one in his right mind denies that there was a Vietnam war. That war had nothing to do with terrorism. Likewise the Iran-Iraq War had nothing to do with terrorism. The truth probably is that as the propagandist for an Islamophobic group Backie wants to ridicule anything and everything I write.In the process he shows that he is just one step this side of the madhouse – IH

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          I return to Backie.I have decided to whack Backie whenever my time permits. The moral health of our society requires that the Backies amongst us be excoriated and extirpated.
          Dr Brian Seneviratne says that Backie and Mahindapala are the same person. Backie denies that. Whom is one to believe? There is no doubting the moral stature of Dr Brian Seneviratne. He has spoken up for Tamil rights, risking extremely dire consequences for himself. That earned an encomium from no less than Archbishop Desmond Tutu, one of the few really great men of our time. As for the moral stature of Backie/Mahindapala – it hasn’t been visible.
          There is one detail that strongly suggests a Backie/Mahindapala identity. Mahindapala’s attacks on me in the CT have provoked widespread expressions of outrage. He is widely regarded as a gutter journalist of the nastiest sort. Readers have pleaded with me not to respond to him because they have been disgusted by the nasty stinkiness of the scumbag journalist But Backie and Backie alone has praised Mahindapala for his attacks on me.He claimed that there is a new sobriety in my writings because of the “hammerings” I have received from Mahindapala. It looks like Mahindapala is praising Mahindapala because no one else will. – IH

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            Alors!! The controversial and much reviled Izeth H again!!!! So then it is true in life one cannot be insulated against what goes as necessary and inevitable evil.

            IH becomes paranoid at the very sight of ordinary criticism. The man is clearly obsessed with his own self-importance, infallibility and misplaced belief he is “an outstanding intellectual” He goes bonkers when he sees my name. He explodes not once but twice in this thread alone???

            The good man has to make up his mind. So far he has called me (1) an LTTEer (2) an Israeli Agent (3) a voice of the Tamil Diaspora (4) incredible of all – his warped mind insists I and one of his many bete noire, the senior journo HLDM, are the same (5) some mysterious “Principals backing me” (6) Propandist for an Islamophobic group. Surely, my good Sir, I cannot be simultaneously all of these. So much for your much contested analysis. Do make up your much disturbed mind.

            The Vietnam War was not a “War” in the strict and legal sense. The Americans came at the request of the South Vietnamese Government to interdict the Viet Cong. Therefore, your analogy is thoroughly misplaced. Let’s not waste time arguing on this.

            The rest of your senseless rambling is not worth responding to.

            Backlash

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              It was Brian Seneviratne who wrote that Mahindapala and Backie are the same. Backie omits that fact. Typical of Backie. He is incapable of uttering the truth. I accept what BS says because he is a man of honour, not a gutter journalist.
              Come come Backie,you are trying to wriggle your way out of the bit of lunacy you perpetrated.You say the Vietnam war was not technically a war, But it was a war all the same. Can you deny that? In any case that war does not negate the fact that both the Americans and the Vietnamese are against the killing of innocent persons in terrorist action.Are you unable to understand that? Likewise the Iran-Iraq War did not negate the fact that both sides were against the killing of innocent persons in terrorist action, Are you really unable to understanding the distinction between war and terrorism? The truth is that you are driven by a terrible Islamophobic hatred to fault anything and everything I write. Some of your earlier ravings explicitly declare your Islamophobia. – IH

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                Izeth Hussain’s ballistic outbursts makes it clear his paranoia is beyond control.

                Before Brian S said it (L’affaire HLDM), it was you who said this with the remark evidence to that was my better prose. But then, lying is second nature to you has been well established in these threads.

                I ignore the rest of your usual curses and diatribe as peculiar to your nature and consistent with the inherent hatred given your cultural background.

                Backlash

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                  Backie boy – you seem unable to get any of your facts right.I said that in writing better prose you were assuming another persona. I did not say that that persona was HLDM.Did I? Come on Backie boy – Did I? You just can’t get anything right And of course you insult as usual instead of answering my charge that you can’t distinguish between terrorism and war. – IH

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                    According to the super-brilliant Izeth H only he can understand most matters. He and only he can get matters right. Fine.
                    Bad news for this twisted “intellectual” is his good friend HLDM may, by now, sharpening his tools to give our man another hammering. That’ll be another day.

                    Backlash

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        IH
        Understanding Islamic Terrorism.
        What an unfortunate choice of a Title

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    Izeth Hussein,

    Buddhist Islamophobia and Christian Islamophobia are usually retaliations towards Islamist fundamentalism and terrorism.

    Trouble is, the fundamental tenet of Islam, compared to all other religions is to do with fixated Sex.

    In other religions, sex, while considered regulatory, does not go into an obsessive singularity.

    Men and women, in other religions, complement each other and form a wholesome oneness with each other. Those who have other inclinations are let go, into their own unique worlds (even if it regretted somewhat, due to them not having offspring to take care of them when they are old….they are also considered unfortunate and unhealthy lifestyles).

    In other religions, sex is fun. Sex is frivolous. Sex can at times go into a spiritual realm, though people tend to end up like Romeo and Juliet. Any great intensity in sex, other cultures know it will end in tragedy and violence (exactly like what tends to happen in Islamic fundamental societies….long, longings of poetry, coupled with stoning of naturally-inclined women). In other religions, sex is a corporeal instinct, and if one wants to go into spiritual realism, it is with Non-Sex- their priesthoods are celibate.

    But in Islam, a man is allowed 4 wives, to make up any wholeness to himself. To satisfy that, woman have to forgo their sexual nature and comply. Thus, women are immediately relegated, in the Islamic religion. In spite of what they try to convince us, that women are honored in the Muslim household, that cannot be, as women have to forgo their natural sexual inclinations, and accept the dominance of the sexual needs of the man, at the demise of their own.

    Muslim woman who accept it all, except it in the same passion as celebate-nunhood of other religions (the difference being, they got the taste of sexuality, and have to hang on to that short-term experience in perpetuity). The passion of the Islamic fundamentalist woman is so intense, that the only outlet for them in the absence of lateral thought to contain and halt invaders to their lands, for example, is to scream Allah-hu-Akabhar, and shoot semi-automatic weapons, and throw bombs. Those who do not live in terroristic settings, tend to live in the world of nervous ribaldry of their unfortunate condition. Yet they will defend their culture and religion to the utmost, because any un-sureness on their part, will surely lead to torture and death in this life, and perpetual torture in the next life.

    According to the Islamists, everything about a female is seen as sexually alluring. Voice, hair, feet, hands, feet, movement, happiness, cuteness…….if an Islamic man gets turned on by such things, then it is the woman who is at fault. Therefore she must be covered up from head to toe. Muslims who live with other religions and cultures, live regrettably, continually praying for forgiveness, or they live resigned to their more genial natures.

    In other religions, things like voice, hair, feet, hands, feet, movement, happiness, and cuteness are seen as items that boost the male libido in the more innocent of way. It is a wholesome and innocent sensuality that pervades the whole body and mind that tames lust, such which the Islamic man finds impossible to control (as they are not taught to get over it from a young age).

    Adultery is never a good thing for humanity in general. However, no other culture and religion will ever torture and kill a woman for adultery, like the Islamic religion does. Theft is not good either. But other cultures, do not chop off limbs for these things, and have a far greater forgiveness and compassion that leads to greater understanding, evolvement and elevation of humanity.

    If only Islamists stick by the one wife rule, like the other religions do, they will not need to go on terrorist rampages, because others are getting the better of them, and taking their chance to invade them because it is easy enough to do so. If they lived by the one wife rule, they would have better awareness how to deal with the rest of humanity. (however, if you remove the sex-tenet, there is nothing else that will make Islam a religion, other than a set of fearful codes to prevent one from going to hell…..I mean, who cares about the splendors of heaven – the intensity and horrors of hell are far worse by eons).

    Hence in comparison to other religions, Islamic terrorism takes on a whole new twisted turn. Young men severely frustrated without wives or girlfriends as older and richer men take the rest of the women. And the poor young men can’t even have girlfriends, or even have alternate lifestyles for fear of torture and persecution….hence the fiery terrorism. What a sad and sorry religion. Is there any other way to avoid the fires of hell?

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    Mr. Hussein,

    Don’t waste time by bothering to reply to the warped comments of Backlash ( a.k.a. Tuan Bagoos Mahindapalan)Poor Mahindapalan is really hurting at the mere fact that you are able to see above the crowd at core issues such as drawing a sharp distinction between war and terrorism ,Islam and terrorism, the negative usage of this religion by some bigots to further their inhuman causes.

    Now that Mr. Hussein has focussed on Islam and the distinction that needs to be made between it and terrorism/ fundamentalism, perhaps others here can enlighten us in respect of terrorism being used by bigots in other religions to further their respective sinister objectives.

    Amarasiri/Spring Koha et al, can we have the benefit of your wisdom please?Meanwhile Mr. Hussein please keep writing.

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      “Brian Senewiratne “

      Amarasiri/Spring Koha et al, can we have the benefit of your wisdom please?”

      Amere gossip is more of a `sleeping pill`

      Aren’t you an agent for the Pharma industry??
      If so the Hindias are in a big way as new billionaires and the Chinese are woeing them but unable to so as a Lankan with some clout you can be ` magul kappuva¬ no?

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      Brian Senewiratne ,

      Why is it that doctors call what they do ‘practice’?

      there are 2 sides and politicians harp their side??

      If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress?

      now understand your own DNA!!

      The Beast is back after 500 years (9/11 North Africans `Moros` ) and it was known

      The mus-slims terrorised your invading ancestors for 800years. The Portuguese learnt navigation and sex-slavery from them.

      (((The Reconquista[a] (“reconquest”) is a period in the history of the Iberian Peninsula, spanning the approximately 770 years between the initial stage of the Islamic conquest in the 710s and the fall of Granada, the last Islamic state on the peninsula, to expanding Christian kingdoms in 1492. The Reconquista ended immediately before the European discovery of the Americas—the “New World”—which ushered in the era of the Portuguese and Spanish colonial empires. (highlight and click)))

      At the same time the – Sharia law which was introduced by the the Turks- Mughal Empire- The Mughals 1483 (Turks+Mongols)
      (((The beginning of the empire is conventionally dated to the founder Babur’s victory over Ibrahim Lodi, the last ruler of the Delhi Sultanate in the First Battle of Panipat (1526). The Mughal emperors were Central Asian Turco-Mongols belonging to the Timurid dynasty, who claimed direct descent from both Genghis Khan (founder of the Mongol Empire, through his son Chagatai Khan) and Timur (Turco-Mongol conqueror who founded the Timurid Empire).
      Highlight click)))

      The Turks/Mughals bought Sharia Law to north Hindia the same time that the European came to south India by ship.The Turks destroyed every religious institution and with the same stone built the grand mosque old Delhi (even today it can be noticed) stayed there as rulers for 450 years. They could never capture north east (the foothills of Himalayas) therefore Nepal was not affected. Sharia law commerce is still practiced at Hindia.

      Rep and Dem’s were not happy (furious) the truth businessman Trump told CNN Iraq?? what iraq? I would bomb it flat and within a month ExxonMobil,Chevron would be functioning. This is too big today to fail- the line would run Iraq, Syria to Europe.(50 years supply like hindu kush) The reason being the hindu kush is out of bounds because of Hindia, Pakistan Afghan. Putin has left because even the Muslims are attacking so he has gone into non GM foods.

      Your case will linger till we have New World Order.

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      Dr Brian Seneviratne – thanks for the information that Tuan Bagoos and Backie are one and the same. Backie denies it, but both emit the identical stink./// I occasionally respond to Tuan Bagoos and the likes of him. They are Islamophobic racists who cannot bear the thought that a Thumbiya writes articles of a certain quality. Their intention is to stop me being published. If I don’t respond at all, newspaper owners may be persuaded that I don’t defend myself because I can’t defend myself./// I haven’t finished with the Tuan. Many readers were outraged that he desecrated the memory of his own father. They chose not to mention – probably they thought it was too horrible to mention – that at the same time he desecrated the memory of my mother. Practically all Sri Lankans will agree that anyone who gratuitously desecrates the memory of someone’s mother is kin to the rat, the dog, and the pig. It has long been my conviction that racism dehumanizes people. Tuan Bagoos/Backie provides the convincing illustration – IH

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    ” But I am told by one of my best-informed Muslim contacts that Christian Islamophobia in Sri Lanka is the worst of all. He had in mind particularly what he called Zionist Christians, a segment of Christians who for religious and other reasons have a peculiarly intense devotion to Israel. “
    On the dot, Mr IH. I find it very strange that otherwise rational Christians believe that the current Isaeli state is somehow Biblical in nature and not a European settler state . Some even seem to think that the Jews believe in Jesus Christ!

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    When people are bombed for calling to one Allah, this is nothing new,Islam will prevail. Like the egyption pharoes, the kings of mesopetamia all Allah destroyed. Idol worshiping will be destroyed, how can people worship a cow, a statue made of wood,stone and call god. India is the richest country Gold per capita, if they take all the gold from the temples and use for productive use. but 800million in poverty. why?

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      “Idol worshiping will be destroyed, “

      Holy! so that polygamy may multiply!!!

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    Idol worshiping will be destroyed, how can people worship a cow, a statue made of wood,stone and call god.

    In the same breath how can you call a mosque with stone and mortar as Holy Mosque? Is the worship of Kaaba in Mecca not idol worship? The idols are symbols. The Kaaba of Mecca was one of several Kaabas across Arabia each one dedicated to a different god and each having its own coloured stone, the one in Mecca was dedicated to the god Hubal a phoentical distortion of the Canaanite god Ba’al(it started out as Haba’al meaning “The lord” which later on gave birth to Allah which have a similar meaning. Now on the subject of who built it it’s note worthy to point out to the Islamic 3 “Satan’s stelles” that Muslims gather around each year to throw stones at in a symbolic way of stoning the Devil.

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    Islam is a reduntant faith with those born into it caught up within it for no fault of their own but forced to believe in its precepts for the principal reason that they had been born into it. The only reference to any one holy is only to Miriam or Mariam, the mother of Jesus.The founder had so many faults about which the least spoken the better.Bensen

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    muslims dont worship the kaaba ,or a black stone. Kaaba is only for direction. unlike hindus worshiping the cow and drinking the urine, or the misguided buddhist who worship statues.( in buddhist philosophy there is no statues or cast or gods, which has become prevelent in SL.)
    On the contrary there is no christanity practiced in the west, but a bunch of helenistc paganistic rituals. Prove me wrong . Bible has been revised so many times, the original bible is no more.
    As for the Quran, it is the same from 1400 years word to word, miracle of the Quran.

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      Bensen Burner is correct. Jehan is yet another Jihadist. Why is the Kaaba for direction? Why not face any direction? Why kiss the black stone? Why drink the water of zam zam? Its idolatry.

      Jehan calls the Quran a “miracle”. Here are quotes and the reader can decide whether it is a “miracle” or not.

      (a) I shall cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads, maim them in every limb (chapter 8, verse 12) (iii)

      (b) O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is one of them. (chapter 5, verse 51).

      (c) When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield, strike off their heads and when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly. Then grant them their freedom or take ransom from them, until war shall lay down her armor. (chapter 47, verse 4)

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        Just for your information, here are some quotes from the Bible:

        But if [a girl wasn’t a virgin on her wedding night] and evidence of the girl’s virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her father’s house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against God’s people by her unchasteness in her father’s house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

        Anyone who blasphemes God’s name must be stoned to death by the whole community of [believers].(Leviticus 24:16 NLT)

        Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother-in-law. And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.(Matthew 10:34-35;

        If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you.(Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

        Let’s stop all this uninformed name-calling. ALL religions have skeletons to hide. RELIGION is the cause of most world problems , Not just Islam.

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    A friend mentioned this article to me. He feared this Writer is trying to whip up Christian-Muslim conflict. Hussain says here

    “Zionist Christians, a segment of Christians who for religious and other reasons have a peculiarly intense devotion to Israel. It was they, he believes, who instigated the BBS, whose main backers are believed to be in Christian Norway”

    This irresponsible comment is aimed to creating unnecessary trouble between communities who have lived in peace and amity in this country for centuries. As far as I know there is no such thing as Zionist Christians in Sri Lanka. Mr. Hussain seems to have built a reputation to quarrel with a number of Writers here. But, please, keep the Christians out of your squabbles.

    Leslie Mostley

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    Leslie Mostley – see above the comment of December 6 by Old Codger – IH

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      Mr Hussain,

      It seems that Old Codger has quoted from the Old Testament! You thought that you can hide behind that! How pathetic! Quran is stuck in the past; this is the issue; you are learned enough to admit that!

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        The quote from Matthew is from the New Testament. If you are going to repudiate the Old Testament then you cannot pick and choose some parts of it that you are in favour of, like the Ten Commandments or Exodus.
        Read literally. both the Quran and the Bible make pretty unsavoury reading. One can argue till the cows come home about interpretations.Oh, and while you are about it, try the unabridged Vinaya (Book of Discipline)for Buddhist monks.

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          I am nighter Christian nor a Muslim; I have never read any of their scriptures! However I know about the old testaments and the new testaments. The new testaments is be followed by the present day Christians and it does not include the verses that quoted.

          The point is that Christianity modernised and Islam has not.

          The old testaments are outdated and not accepted by the Christians in general and there is no picking and choosing. You need to get your act together and stop conflating things.

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            “I have never read any of their scriptures! However I know about the old testaments and the new testaments.”
            You should in fact read their scriptures, if only to understand where all this trouble comes from.
            Much of the old testament is in fact accepted by Christians, but there are parts about which they keep quiet, like Leviticus on slavery for example. The extreme ones (just like the Muslims) deny Evolution.

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            ” The point is that Christianity modernised and Islam has not. “
            1.Christians killed 6 million Jews just 70 years ago
            2.About 600,000 Christians were killed by other Christians in Rwanda just 20 years ago.

            You call that progress? You must understand that the (Western) media has an agenda to demonize Muslims, as it did Communists in the past.So please take what you read on the subject with a pinch of salt.

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              Old Codger,

              Just steady yourself as you are basically all over the place! You have indeed cherry picked and conflated aspects from the Old Testament to suit your argument, which is indeed disingenuous and unethical. The New Testament is what the present day Christians confirm to and there are no such verses that you outlined encompassed and you know this.

              On the point about “You must understand that the (Western) media has an agenda to demonize Muslims, as it did Communists in the past.”

              The western media do vilify the Islamic Fundamentalism and the ISIS of course. You should know that there are millions of Muslims live in the west and enjoy the fruits of freedom and democracy. Paradoxically, those fundamentalists muslims who radicalise the unfortunate young man and women use the freedom of speech and democracy as their cover for their insidious activities!

              The Christians did not kill 6 million Jews but the fascist Hitlar did and the it was also the Christians who put the stop to it. What is your point about Rwanda in this context? It was an ethnic based killings and it could have happened anywhere.

              Anyhow, you confused and conflated Old Testament with the New one and made to sound like the Bible has those verses. This is irresponsible and cheap.

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                Maalumiris,
                This is why you should read the scriptures:
                “Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother-in-law. And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.(Matthew 10:34-35;
                The above is from the NEW testament. The reference is given.
                2.Hitler (who was born Catholic) did use Christian arguments to get rid of the Jews.The church hierarchy did not openly oppose him. Mussolini was a fascist before Hitler but he didn’t go after the Jews.
                3. Yes, the Rwanda genocide could have happened anywhere, but did the media go to town describing it as “Christian genocide”

                My point is that non-Muslims have killed literally millions in the recent past, but it is ISLAM which gets the bad name for killing perhaps a few hundreds of thousands. You must think deeply as to why this is so. Only then will the scales fall from your eyes, as the Bible says. Read that up too.

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                Sorry above was addressed to Burning Issue

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    It seems to me that violence is a trait of human nature and whether it is called Islamic or Christian or whatever, violence is ethically wrong even in self defense perhaps ( I am not quite sure whether you should resist through counter violence). But unless mankind gets rid of violence there seems to be no hope of peace.

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