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Video: Dayan On Geopolitical Matrix Of Indo-Sri Lanka Relations

Ambassador Dayan Jayatilleka

Title:A Perception from South Asia’s Far South: The Geopolitical Matrix of Indo-Sri Lanka Relations

Speaker: Dr. Dayan Jayatilleka

7th South Asia Conference, October 30-31, 2013

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    Dr DJ is talking from the INDIAN perspective. Not relevant to SL or Muslims in the region.

    USA has been BEATEN by Muslims in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

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      A relevant note.
      Martin Vickers, Conservative MP, UK:

      Clearly there has been genocide taken place in Sri Lanka and the International Community needs to take the issue much more seriously and investigations should take place.

      Source a video clip in English, above is a transcript by me from:

      http://www.tamilwin.com/show-RUmrzBSVMZit7.html

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    Lorenzo(Fathima).
    Why do you have to expose your stupidity time and time again.

    I suggest you go back to LW and change the diapers of Dilcrook, Shenali, Ananda, Fran and the like who are wetting themselves on some hair brain ideas which will never ever come to fruition however much it is entertaining.

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    Dayan,

    MR stated in the international media that you were prostituting for an NGO. You opted not to argue with his perception – I guess your inability to defend speaks volumes.

    So, can we now interpret your current positions as your being back prostituting for the regime towards a renewal of diplomatic posting?

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      Following that statements, whether they are right or wrong, DJ had met with him upon an Invitation, there it seems that MR regime has given an another contract him to play a supportive role in terms of foreign relations that have been montessori tasks to this date.

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        Listen, how many of the audience would easily get what he s been trying to say.
        His abstract theories cant send the message to anyone easily. No doubt he is a senior diplomat but I think he should better address them in a simple language that the masses could get them easily. As an Uni lecturer, he could be fine, but to public speeches giving to mixed audience, his cant help much.

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          Rajiva Weerasinghe could do the job better actually.
          His speeches are simply formed. And examples reach the masses so easily. Referring other politicians, writers or professors, DJ seems to make the speech like a lecture to the mixed audience.

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      You obviously don’t read either this website or Groundviews, since I contradicted him on the record, on both websites within hours…:))

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        No Dayan – you merely asked “Can the President name who the NGO was?”.

        That did not challenge the President’s clear implication that you were prostituting. My question is about your reluctance to challenge the President on his observation that you would prostitute your skills – is that difficult to understand? ARen’t you pulling one of your red-herrings here as usual?

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          he doesn’t want to jeopardize Geneva 2014, remember Dayan wants to go and get another crack at those “imperialists”

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          No answer Dayan? Well this won’t be the last time I ask you this – you can run, but can’t hide!

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    India and China have got only closer to reality in the western catalysed power game.

    SL playing ping pong that will not apply new remedies must expect new evils.

    Mugabe loves you DJ.

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    Now,indian PM has decided to boycott CHOGM in Colombo.
    The perception now is that he has surrendered to the Tamil Nadu sentiments.

    Indian tamils feel very strongly that a grave crime has been commited by a War without Witnesses under the guise of releasing tamils in mullaitivu from a ‘hostage situation’ – that too with a promise of ‘zero civilian casualties’ – which is an impossibility in any war.
    They are correct.

    CHOGM tamasha will go on,without the second most important participant.

    Cameron is intent on getting answers to his concerns with regard to humanrights concerns, including the british tourist’s murder.
    The army is worried that Cameron will visit the Uthayan office in jaffna – he will learn the truth of what is happening in jaffna,and in the north in general from a reliable source.
    The army feels helpless as Cameron’s visit cannot be prevented.

    We shall wait till the talkshop is over.

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      Indian tamils feel very strongly that a grave crime has been committed by a War without Witnesses under the guise of releasing tamils in mullaitivu from a ‘hostage situation’ – that too with a promise of ‘zero civilian casualties’ – which is an impossibility in any war.

      IS It INDIAN TAMILS or NEEDS OF Jayalalitha and Karuna – honmdatama – NIDHI.

      Indian Central govt, at present Congress party – is a victim of the exploitation by Tamils ?

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    View of the South is multilayered. It is only the Sinhalese majority perspective not the view of the minorities. We have moderates and intellectuals, the govt, the sinhala extremists, the military etc.

    The views and actions of the Sri Lankan Govt are very ambiguous in its approach, vascillating between anti Indian to willing to work with India. In private it is more towards to the anti-indian stance. This is modulated by its attitude and policy towards the Tamil North which is dominated by the military occupation and subjugation of land and human rights.

    On the other hand India is a secular country with many states, races, religons, languages. What happens in Sri Lanka is miniscule to what happens all the time in India. There are many Indians outside TN who would support a better relationship with Sri Lanka. TN is only one state but given the current trend in Indian politics, a significant one. So the end result is a foregone conclusion. We need to come to terms with this reality.

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    I have said this before. Whether we agree with Dayan’s perceptions or not in Indo-Lankan affairs, he is light years ahead of any in the Rajapakse Cabinet or its officials to be speaking to a scholarly overseas audience.

    Sri Lanka’s foremost task now is to repair the damage done to its relationship with Tamilnadu. Provocative statements like that from Sarath Fonseka (Tamilnadu jokers) have done much harm to us there. Sinhalese are guilty of stereo-typing present Tamilnadu people with those of the Estate coolies they are used to seeing for the past century. If we succeed in Tamilnadu the equation with Delhi will flow from that. The regime missed several chances to build warmer connections both with the Karunanidhi and Jayalalitha factions, when offered by friends with good connections on both sides. The Rajapakses mis-calculated and relied on the wrong people like Thiru
    Nadesan – husband of Nirupama Rajapakse, whose reach was limited.

    R. Varathan

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      You are right.
      It should be the external affairs of a state that should work on this.
      In the current environment, entire foreign relations have been damaged. See right at the moment, knowing that US surveillance networks have long been on a espionage mission in Europe, still German, French and other govts are very cautious at discussing them. These issues are very sensitive. Likewise, the issues related to the tamil problems within sri lanka should be addressed very cautiously. Even if guys that lack the talents to do so, leave far unacceptable views in terms of the burning issues, other senior should work on repairing that.
      Senior diplomats, professionals in that area are the assets in this regard. Rajapaksha seem have lost somewhere in between. Their strategies would leave shortly but damaging entire respect that predecessors have generated years long. Rajas should finally grasp that foreign relations are equally important as the relations made with local masses.

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    More sinhala buddhist women must marry hindu indian men and sinhala buddhist sri lanka must learn how to be a good wife to secular india. There is no need to worry about india because india is becoming a modern secular technologically advanced culturally liberal and militarily strong state that can defend sri lanka from non democratic forces from abroad and fascist forces from within. So sinhalka buddhist sri lanka must not prostitute herself to others and be a bad wife. That would be a big mistake. In india bad wives tend to catch fire. Of course this is called bride burning and all that but that is not true. In india unchaste wives catch fire but chaste wives do not. Ask Rama and Ravana they know. So sinhala buddhist sri lanka please stop sleeping around or you may catch fire too. I see the foxes tails a twitching.

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    Tamilnadu is a part of India and the Tamils there are first and foremost, Indians. The whole of India including its leadership know these facts full well. This is the main reason why the Indian PM gave heed to the concerns of the people of Tamilnaadu and decided not to attend CHOGM. The threat of confederation etc. made by DJ will easily be taken as a figment of his imagination by the Indian leadership. It is encouraging to note that the latter are waking up to reality though rather belatedly after some dilly dallying.

    Sengodan. M

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      The fact that Tamilnadu has enough influence to determine the actions of the center in relation to the interests of the Tamil People is seen by Dayan as a tendency towards confederation whereas as long as the center integrates the interests of the states in its policies the direction is away from confederation and towards federation.The fact that the DJ APPARENTLY does not understand this VERY simple fact despite his being the dearly beloved grandson of Gramsci and a PhD in political science to boot as well as plenipotentiary what not and also I suppose father christmas as well, is simply not possible to believe. Obviously the slime ball was trying to slip in a dose of his fascist thinking relating to how the center must “control” and oppress the minorities and never allow them to influence the thinking of the center because anything else according to the DJ is confederation. Of course he does not tell us what is wrong with confederation. What is clear from his thinking is that sri lanka will never be able to govern its minorities democratically because it is committed to sihnhala buddhist dominance over the minorities and as hence it is very likely to have serious consequences not too far down the line.

      Already is is very clear that the government is urging its ranks of tamils and the only place tamils are likely to be employed by government is in the so called tamil homeland.

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    Dr. Jayatilleka made a salient point on the competing peripheries at play i.e. the ‘Indian inner periphery’ of Tamil Nadu, the ‘Indian outer periphery’ of Sri Lanka (the ‘South Asian south’ in contrast to the ‘Global South’) and the ‘Sri Lankan inner periphery’ of the Tamil dominated Northern Province. The three peripheral visions compete with each other. This is a new way of addressing an old issue and should be fleshed out more in future talks. It may well explain the inflexible positions at play.

    I also appreciated his point on ‘confederal’ trends within India as viewed through the prism of foreign policy making in New Delhi.

    Best regards, Naresh

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      Thank you for an objective, literate and dispassionate reading.

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      India is unlikely to subscribe to the theory of three peripheries
      suggested by DJ and endorsed by Dr. Naresh D. In the Lankan case, in
      view of the special peculiarities involving the Lankan Tamil population, Delhi has relaxed its monopoly, if you like, to charter a GoI perspective. The debilitating internal War is another reason. Otherwise, States close to Bangladesh, Myanmar China and Tibet will want to step in either to influence or control events – complicating matters for policy makers in Delhi. Besides both Karunanidhi and Jayalalitha are passing clouds and the next TN/CM may not cause that much pressures to Delhi.

      Backlash

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      Naresha, both you and Dayan seem to assume the existence of some kind of extra Indian Center that is threatened by separatist tendencies whereas what obtains is a self mediated collaboration of several separate entities in order to reap the benefits of a federal state. Non of these entities are precariously held together by the coercive power of the center rather they come together voluntarily to generate the center in their own interest and hence the actions of the center are expressions of the confluence of the entities that generate it.

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    “The three peripheral visions compete with each other” I disagree.
    Tamilnadu and the Tamil areas of the Lankan North do not compete with
    each other but complement the ideals of the Lankan Tamils to regain
    their rights of the pre-British period – not necessarily via a Separate State.

    It is good for both Naresha D and DJ to compliment each other. Naresha’s father’s role during the 1981/83 period in Jaffna is well known. He may have regretted he was in the side that contained Cyril Mathew, Gamini D, Lalith A, Lokuge and others. Fortunately post-1983 and until he died, his political vision changed and the gentle and friendly man admitted his loyalty to JRJ was repaid poorly by the champions of July ’83. Secular he was with a wide circle of infuentuial Sinhala and Muslim friends he then on passionately worked for the Hindu and Tamil causes although he preferred to identify himself outside the main Tamil political landscape.

    Varathan

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      His comments about the confederation is not true, Dayan you know, you people put the helping indian into soup, you know what extent, section of students force started asking separate Tamil country. Now like in 1962, India had to heed to keep her boundary intact. It will do anything for it,have fun in March 2014 if you get your dream posts back!

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      Shame on you R. Varathan. Naresha Duraiswamy commented on Dayan Jayatilleke’s presentation.

      You instead undertake a personal attack on Naresha Duraiswamy’s father – Yogendra Duraiswamy – who did yeoman service as District Secretary in Jaffna and Kilinochchi between 1981 and 1983. He stood up to J.R. Jayewardene with regards to the sudden arbitrary changes in the presiding officers for the District Council Elections in 1981 devolution models that the TULF had shamelessly agreed to in a private deal with J.R. Jayewardene, and he alone was trying to douse the flames at the Jaffna Public Library when the TULF rabble rousers had all fled. The TULF were politicians who had no real convictions except to win the next elections – much like the DMK folks in Tamil Nadu.

      I suggest you read the tribute to Yogendra Duraiswamy that appeared in Tamil Canadian on October 13 this year!

      And what Naresha Duraiswamy comments on is unlinked to his father’s legacy of integrity and service.

      Now to the issue of the Tamil areas and those in Tamil Nadu thinking alike – you talk rubbish once more. The Northern Province voted for the moderate Justice Wigneswaran. There is no talk of the rights of the Tamils that existed before the British period, a rhetoric that only gains currency by the overseas Tamils and the Rajapakse intransigence. Your thinking is outmoded – much like the diaspora Tamils who live overseas.

      By the way – I suggest that you read history. The Portuguese and Dutch preceded the Brits – so your allusion to a pre-British period and Tamil rights therein is bunkem! Shame on you – address the point Mr.

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        I agree with Raman. Yogendra Duraiswamy was an upright diplomat and administrator. He was an honest and honourable man who did a lot for Jaffna in 1981. Varathan obviously has a personal hatred and issue to grind.

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        Yolgendra D was a public figure and his actions are subject to open scrutiny whether it pleases you or not – fictitious or real you may be. There is critical comment on his politics and salutary in his personal, if you care to see calmly.

        Of the 3 invading colonialists what is relevant is the post-British period when Tamils came in sizeable numbers to the South
        and thus the core of the debate since.

        As to your ugly adjectives, that is clearly your congenital nature. I have little to do with it. Thank you for the advise to read pre-British history – some idea of which I have. Your prejudice against diaspora Tamils is clear. Remember, they provide voice and muscle to the current struggle for justice to Lankan Tamils.

        R. Varathan

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    M Varathan hits below the belt in a rash and foolish manner. Yogendra Duraiswamy was a man of many facets who contributed to the development of Jaffna. He was a refined diplomat whose later constitutional submissions to the All Party Conference in 1984 were rational, cerebral and supportive of Tamil national interests. His son, Naresha Duraiswamy, led the Housing Project which led to the rebuilding of 75,000 houses for the poor and indigent in the Jaffna, Vavuniya, Mannar, Trincomalee, Batticaloa and Amparai districts, a design which was later copied by the Indians. The Indian project has still not completed in Sri Lanka’s North!

    Varathan speaks of the unity between Tamil Nadu and the Sri Lankan Tamils. This is sheer drivel. G.G. Ponnambalam, a Sri Lankan Tamil demagogue voted for the D.S. Senanayake Government’s disenfranchisement of one million Indian Tamil tea and rubber estate workers in 1948. Now if that was not treachery against the sons and daughters of Tamil Nadu, what was! M. Karunanidhi was part of the Manmohan Singh administration which provided key strategic support to the Sri Lankan administration as it crushed the LTTE in 2009. The Manmohan Singh administration would have fallen had Karunanidhi pulled the plug from the UPA coalition. But that Karunanidhi intentionally did not do! He instead opted for a convenient half day fast after breakfast and before lunch to express his solidarity with the Sri Lankan war victims! He later sent his daughter Kanimozhi in late 2009 on a ‘fact finding’ trip to North Sri Lanka and visit the refugee camps. She instead garlanded Mahinda Rajapakse when she met him along with the DMK MPs at the concluding session of their visit to Sri Lanka. Manmohan himself attended the SAARC summit in Sri Lanka in 2009 with Chidambaram present! Jayalalitha was in an earlier incarnation completely opposed to the LTTE. She claimed that her life was in danger and had clamped down on anyone supporting the Tamil Tigers! There was no unity between Tamil Nadu and Jaffna. The recent resolutions in the Tamil Nadu state assembly are mere grandstanding to camouflage their failure in delivering to their own people. Varathan’s gibberish and garbage makes no sense!

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    There is something disingenuous about R. Varathan’s reasoning. He says that Yogendra Duraiswamy was a public figure and therefore subject to public scrutiny. But what is the relationship of that scrutiny of a public Sri Lankan Tamil figure in an otherwise excellent presentation of Dr. Dayan J and the comments made on that presentation by Dr. Naresh D. One should stick to the subject. Now if we are to discuss Yogendra D, then discuss the work he did or attempted to do – port development, transport, irrigation, employment generation, cottage industry, causeways. A commentator above mentioned how Yogendra D stood up to JRJ with regards to the DDC elections and his role in trying to fight the flames of the Jaffna Public Library. Discuss that too by all means. But Varathan solely takes one snapshot of JRJ and dishonestly twists that beyond recognition. This is the Appapillai Amirthalingam line of reasoning – one that runs with the hare and hunted with the hounds – only to get assassinated by the LTTE. This twisting of the record illustrates a venom in Varathan that is quite out of place. One notes that he conveniently sidesteps the criticism levied at him by Dushyanthi and Raman, once again an essay in intellectual dishonesty. Now to the crap about the Tamil diaspora. These were a people who left the Tamil north for an improved standard of living in the affluent West. There is nothing wrong about economic migrants. These very people however, perhaps to assuage their guilt, financed the LTTE but were cowardly to hold it to account. The LTTE which received the largesse of the diaspora no longer depended on the very Tamils of the Vanni they lorded over, pilfering the resources of us hapless locals, forcibly recruiting our children, using forced labour, and holding us hostage as civilian shields. TheLTTE cadre used as suicide bombers as well as the first wave of attackers to be killed by the Sri Lankan military were all Indian Tamils who had fled to the Vanni from the Central Province with the 1977, 1981 and 1983 riots, not Jaffna Tamils. There was a subtle caste exploitation there which only masks the spuriousness of the Tamil Nadu-Eelam alliance! There is no grand Tamil alliance! The LTTE was lost in its megalomania despite initial successes. I blame the diaspora which funded them but cowardly did not hold them to account while living a cushy life in Toronto with their children unable to even speak Tamil. We Tamils in north Sri Lanka were forced to faced the indiscriminate GoSL firing, shelling and carpet bombing. The diaspora is irrelevant. The Tamil electorate has voted in Wigneswaran who obtained the highest number of preferential votes. That was a choice in sanity, one to counter the Buddhist hardliners of the south. Diaspora – leave us alone. With a Narendra Modi Prime Ministership in India, we Tamils in Sri Lanka will need to chart a new more constructive line of positioning ourselves in the new regional configuration. We do not want you, we do not need you and please get lost!! Learn French and fight for Quebecois rights instead! This Commonwealth saga is a distraction – we do not want that Tamasha either but lets not think that our opposition to that is any appreciation of the diaspora.

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    The popular CM/NPC Justice Vigneswaren and PM/TGTE – both representing the largest Tamil population – heap praise and gratitude to Tamilnadu, Shri Karunanidhi, CM Selvi Jayalalitha for the consistent support the State and its people have given to Lankan Tamils in the many decades of their greatest suffering in recent decades.”We live today – because of you” is the essence of those sentiments. This cannot be “sheer drivel” to any intelligent audience. This certainly is an illustration of the friendship shared by people at both sides of the Palk Straits.

    Granted – there remain a microspic minority among Lankan Tamils still bearing hatred against the “vadakkathan” as one reads comments of some of the disgruntled here. GGP, Sir Kanthiah V and a few other self-serving Tamil leaders sold the soul of the Indian Tamils to retain their comforts and positions to win the favour of DSS, Sir John et al. But as the communal horizon changed in the Island GGP and SJV invited Thondaman to be part of the triumvirate in Vaddukottai (1976) The worm was changing by then. That delusional sense of superiority was giving in to reason and reality. By 1983 Tamils by the lakhs were hosted sympathetically in Tamilnadu. Many Tamils from elitist families too took refuge and enjoyed safety during those trying years. Several began searching for their Family Trees in Tamilnadu, which until then they looked upon with disfavour. By the time the Rajiv Gandhi’s killing took place the well founded sympathy turned sour and, among many in Tamilnadu, Lankan Tamils even today are looked upon with suspicion and indifference. Some of the unfortunate comments here are a characterisation of that prejudice. The same commentators show their contempt to the changes that took in the North on the many social reforms the militants pushed forward. These include the matter of dowry, caste differences and so on – which are still being resisted by a small minority even today. Amirthalingam was not the only one who made mistakes. There were many others too – even to the day.

    Housing by the State in the North is largely a GoI effort. One wonders how Naresh could have played a role here because it is understood he mostly works abroad for global financial bodies. This is not to say I disbelieve what is claimed. But we certainly like to know details of where these houses are, their numbers etc. As to the many projects credited to Yogendra D, I note the commentator states “the work he attempted to do” Clearly, these useful projects did not take off the ground – for whatever reason and indeed for no fault of the late YD,

    While I am being accused of stepping outside the box in discussion, my detractors have a field day attacking Amirthlingam, the Tigers, diaspora and straying into similar extraneous matters.

    R. Varathan

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    Varathan, you were the one to digress and step outside the box with your mischievous diversion.

    Justice Wigneswaran had in an interview to the Hindustan Times said speaking for most of us in Jaffna “It is natural for friends in Tamil Nadu to show emotions but the Sri Lankan issue is being used there for political gains. To them, I will only say this: You are welcome to give us any other kind of support but please allow us to work out our own solutions to our own problems within a united Sri Lanka.”

    As Dushyanthi Tambiah correctly pointed out – Karunanidhi lacked consistency being a cynical two faced demagogue who did nothing for the Sri Lankan Tamils when he had real power. The then minority UPA coalition would never have survived in New Delhi had he resigned in 2009 – the year the LTTE was crushed.

    The most vociferous proponents of Eelam in Tamil Nadu were those whose parties are not even represented in the State Assembly. Vaiko, Nedumaran are examples. Thol Thirumavalavan incidentally initiated a fast unto death in support of Eelam but then quite suddenly called it off! What theatre, what farce! The Tamil Nadu politicians are indeed pathetic jokers who lack genuine concern for the Sri Lankan Tamils.

    Dushyanthi is spot on when she writes that G.G. Ponnambalam’s original sin of supporting Don Stephen Senanayake’s removal of citizenship rights for the Indian Tamils was simply unforgivable and caused the ethnic conflict in the first place. The Tamil Congress leadership representing the Jaffna Tamils did not care for the Indian Tamils. That gross betrayal can never be whitewashed as you are now trying to do. The combined Indian and Sri Lankan Tamils were a very significant percentage of the Sri Lankan electorate and the political incentive structure would have been different had the Indians been able to vote. An SWRD Bandaranaike would never have won the 1956 polls in the first place.

    Varathan, you are only adept at attacking those you obviously resent and hate. I note that you once again undermine Naresha! Naresha not only led housing but together with Mr. S. Sivathasan of the Presidential Secretariat worked to establish a North East Reconstruction Fund and a P-TOMS mechanism that would have been administered BOTH by the Government and the LTTE to release a couple of pledged billion dollars of international funds for tsunami reconstruction in the North East. The Supreme Court had deemed such mechanisms unconstitutional but had it succeeded the history of Sri Lanka may have been different. But then again, these are the ifs of history.

    You go off at a tangent and ramble in your pettiness and jealousy! Spare us the torture.

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    Varathan – none of the commentators are attacking the Indian Tamils per se. They are only attacking your point on the alleged unity of Sri Lankan Tamils and Indian Tamils which existed and your praise for the current generation of the Chennai politician.

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    Unfortunately one things is clear, from reading the above comments, there is clear lack of unity between Tamils. That is the curse which is pouring on our head. When will you learn to be united.

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    well said Manisekaran, well said. The lack of unity comes from individuals like R. Varathan (and there are many old outdated men like him) making personal outbursts on others in the name of a Tamil nationalism. Look at how Neelan Tiruchelvam, Alfred Duraiappah and the JTHR were similarly vilified. As one person mentioned in this very comments thread, the hope of the Tamil people lies in a change of administration in New Delhi. The diaspora can only go so far. Tamil Nadu legislators can only go so far. Its New Delhi that needs to be won over. I personally had huge respect for Yogendra Duraiswamy and it pained me to see how he was ungraciously dragged into this debate.

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    President Rajapakse’s DOUBLE GAME AND DOUBLE FACE POLITICS have already understood by the world leaders.

    While he is telling the whole country is open to reporters and calling Channel 4 reporter to have Tea and talk with him, the same Rajapakses are blocking Channel 4 at Anuradhapura proceeding North.

    Rajapakse playing Hambanthota Monkey Trick politics with International community and with Media will backfire on him, and the whole country will suffer as a result on his Monkey Politics both Economically, socially, morally and Politically.

    We are still waiting to hear Dr.Dayan’s NGO Affiliation from his own mouth (What Pres.Rajapakse told to Al Jazeera) If it is TRUE OR FALSE.

    Who is Lying and who is not…….We need answers.

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