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A Defence Of War Crimes & War Criminals?

By Emil van der Poorten

Emil van der Poorten

Emil van der Poorten

The fact that the hounds from hell are baying for the blood of South African Yasmin Sooka should surprise no one given the fact that this same bunch accused two other South Africans with similar credentials, the late Nelson Mandela and Bishop Desmond Tutu, of being “Tiger collaborators!”

It is not a matter for any surprise that the very same people who are organizing a thinly-disguised “Super Race” project called “Sinha Le,” continue their support of the Bodu Bala Sena’s well-financed project which had seemingly run out of steam. The surprise is that a government allegedly committed to stopping Nazi projects continues to turn a blind eye to the reality that the vast majority of Sri Lankans recognize, if not oppose wholeheartedly. What are we waiting for? Another Black July or a Sri Lankan Kristallnacht?

The attack on Sooka, whose early history is with Mandela and Tutu, is only a part of the “philosophy” practiced by the lumpen of this country, tacitly supported by those up to Cabinet rank and even higher, it seems, within the Ohey Palayang government.

There is an old chestnut about living with the dividends of history unobserved and the geniuses who claim to represent “Sri Lankan interests” are pushing the envelope in the matter of achieving that fate. That may well constitute poetic justice. However, if we let greedy morons take us down that path, we will have no one to blame but ourselves for the fate that ultimately befalls us all: “governance” that makes the Rajapaksa regime’s excesses look like a Sunday School Picnic!

Channel 4 ‘Sri Lanka’s Killing Fields’   1 colombotelegraphI have said it before and I will say it again: the only way that we will see an objective analysis of what happened during the violent ethnic conflict that ended in 2009 will be if an international tribunal of committed and skilled people conducts such an examination and analysis. And let me be clear about any such initiative, the Desmond de Silvas, even if the third generation of self-promoting figures with their primary loyalty to those in their family circle, have no place in any such plan. To expect justice from a local panel, including hangers-on from this dispensation or its predecessor, is not only pushing credulity to the edge of the precipice of doom and gloom but giving it that final shove into the abyss. Those that pass for “practitioners of the law” in Sri Lanka have proven totally incapable of delivering on their local responsibilities in the day to day lives of our citizens, leave alone apply fairness and justice to a far bigger task. To expect them to deal fairly and within the bounds of universally-accepted norms is nothing short of ludicrous. Without an objective analysis and the determinations that flow from it, we are doomed insofar as any pretensions to civilized behaviour are concerned. After all, human rights and crimes against humanity are now within an internationally-accepted framework and even the most repressive regimes in the world pay lip service to those precepts, no matter how hypocritically. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE TO SO MUCH AS SUGGEST THAT A “MADE-IN-SRI-LANKA” solution can come even close to delivering. And please do not drag into this debate any of the Sri Lankans who are considered jurists of international repute. One in particular, who was the recipient, not incidentally, of some national honour from our Monarch-recently-deposed, displayed what can only be described as deafening silence as far as condemnation of the rampant abuse of human rights conducted, literally, under his very nose. If that individual (and his kin) were silent then, how in heaven’s name can you expect those at the lower levels of his particular totem pole to deliver in circumstances which could be, to put it mildly, fraught with political and personal risk?

What this refusal to accept anything resembling independence and objectivity amounts to is a refusal to let anything resembling justice prevail. The Nuremberg war crimes tribunal, with all its flaws, is NOT going to be replicated or even imitated in Colombo if the current decision-makers have their way.

Even the primary lackeys owing the larger part of their academic eminence to that bastion of democratic practice, Singapore, have been embarrassed into silence by the unbelievably arrogant and politically dishonest behaviour of the Maithri/Ranil (MR2) conglomeration. Or are they, purveyors of academic discourse without equal in the matter of simple dishonesty, simply too embarrassed to spout their usual defence of what happened before, during and after Nanthikadal? Or, most likely, have the springs of payment dried up with some disruption of the stream of dirty money?

If this sounds like a diatribe, so be it. This country has far too many people of decency who believe in justice without the kind of malice, prejudice and plain and simple murderous intent to permit what MR2 is practicing as very apt pupils of the Mahinda Rajapaksa (MR1) dispensation.

The logical conglomeration that would emerge out of the decisions of this bunch, in the interests of a “local/indigenous commission of inquiry,” could well have been one comprised of the surviving hierarchy of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam and the Dayan Jayatillekes, Rohan Gunaratnes or G. L Peiris’ around the MR1 dispensation and, for good measure, how about a Wijeyadasa Rajapaksa and S. B. Dissanayake and one of Gamini Dissanayake’s politically-chameleonic progeny? Come to think of it, it’s not too late to put such an agglomeration together given the fact that Pillayan, “Colonel Karuna” (the Deputy Leader of the SLFP), the chief arms procurer for the LTTE when it was at its height sowing death and destruction on the streets and in the countryside of Sri Lanka and its official successor to the late Mr. Prabhakaran, Kumar Pathmanathan, to use one of his better-recognised noms de guerre, and at least two of the “Masters” are still alive and doing very well for themselves, thanks to Sri Lankan political dispensations, both immediately past and present? I know, I know, Prabhakaran’s son might have constituted the youth wing of such a motley crew, but he is no longer among us and there is no way his premature demise or that of his siblings can be reversed at this point of the history of the Miracle of Asia.

All cynical comment apart, this country will go down in the annals of infamy if we don’t listen to the few brave voices, almost without exception women, who continue to call for an independent inquiry and the punishment of those guilty of atrocities during a conflict where the niceties of the Geneva Convention were conspicuous by their absence. I fear, though, that the MR2 regime is in virtual lockstep with the MR1 regime on this one despite some elements of the former having, no matter how nebulous, a connection with the democratic politics of Sri Lanka in the early days of its post-colonial independence.

A sad fate indeed for a country that once promised to be the “Beacon of Democracy” in Asia! It doesn’t require one of the soothsayers from this country or Southern India, with whose services Mahinda Rajapaksa was so free, to foretell what awaits us: a place of infamy in world history where Nanthikadal will challenge the worst excesses of the Turks in their (unsuccessful) effort to exterminate the Armenians so many decades ago.

This nation and its people can do better than that, far better, but it won’t happen until enough people of decency stand up to be counted and make their voices heard. There already are some, but we need more, thousands more, to drown out the Bodu Bala Senas and goodness knows how many more “Sinha Le-” type agglomerations that are thriving, totally unchecked, like malignant mushrooms after the deluge of blood that was the “Eelam war.”

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    Emil van der Poorten

    RE:A Defence Of War Crimes & War Criminals?

    1. “The fact that the hounds from hell are baying for the blood of South African Yasmin Sooka should surprise no one given the fact that this same bunch accused two other South Africans with similar credentials, the late Nelson Mandela and Bishop Desmond Tutu, of being “Tiger collaborators!””

    Thanks for the write up.

    This is Standard Operating Practice(SOP).

    “It is not a matter for any surprise that the very same people who are organizing a thinly-disguised “Super Race” project called “Sinha Le,” continue their support of the Bodu Bala Sena’s well-financed project which had seemingly run out of steam.”

    This is also part of the SOP.

    2. “I have said it before and I will say it again: the only way that we will see an objective analysis of what happened during the violent ethnic conflict that ended in 2009 will be if an international tribunal of committed and skilled people conducts such an examination and analysis.”

    The current strategy is to delay and delay.It has been 6 1/2 years since the war crimes were committed. Was there any relief for the victims of LTTE Ethnic Cleansing that happened 25 years ago?

    3. “This nation and its people can do better than that, far better, but it won’t happen until enough people of decency stand up to be counted and make their voices heard. There already are some, but we need more, thousands more, to drown out the Bodu Bala Senas and goodness knows how many more “Sinha Le-” type agglomerations that are thriving, totally unchecked, like malignant mushrooms after the deluge of blood that was the “Eelam war.””

    Shall we start a Para-Le Campaign?

    What about a Para-Sinala LE Campaign to expose the Paras with DNA Evidence?

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    Aye aye sir Emil van der Poorten, you can foresee what the smartest astrologer can’t predict.

    On another matter, would you consider writing with less sarcasm sans far too complex sentences for plebs like us to comprehend with ease.

    Thank you.

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      Thriu, nice to put comments on your own piece!

      We must all thank Mr Van der Poorten for drawing our attention to these matters, just so that the reader become aware of the “source” t of this crap.

      THis skunk is a hypocrite of unspeakable proportions, a member of the scum who believe they are the “chosen” people on earth. (His nose touches his big toe). This is why he is obsessed with their myths, lies, like “Super Race, Nazi projects and Sri Lankan Kristallnacht”. designed deceive the “Goiyam” world.

      His hatred of the Sinhala Buddhists has turned in to madness now, leading to calls for “thousands more” to attack the Sinhala Buddhists becaue they are against the crap theories of the “chosen”. He is a remnant of the “hounds from hell” heathens who invaded us since the 15th century and robbed and looted us of our land and property.

      He tried and failed in Alberta to launch a web based revolution. So he is hiding in Sinhalese lands.

      He attacks the great legal scholar Desmand de Silva as a “third generation of self-promoting figures with their primary loyalty to those in their family circle”. To find someone who better fits this description, this skunk needs to look at his own name, his own pale skin and how he came to “own” the acreage where he lives!

      His “sermon” that “the only way that we will see an objective analysis of what happened during the violent ethnic conflict that ended in 2009 will be if an international tribunal of committed and skilled people conducts such an examination and analysis” shows the Sayanim agenda of this agent – to destabilise Sri Lanka so that the Chosen crap can own it.

      have a nice day, THIRU.

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    Fully agree except for that comment that Singapore is a “bastion of democratic practice.”

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      Don:
      Sorry you missed what I thought would be taken for what it was, perhaps the most sarcastic comment in that entire piece. I was not then and am not now an admirer of that fascist state nor of Lee Kwan Yew and his successors!

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    I know, Prabhakaran’s son might have constituted the youth wing of such a motley crew, but he is no longer among us and there is no way his premature demise or that of his siblings can be reversed at this point of the history of the Miracle of Asia.

    http://www.oneindia.com/2013/02/19/shocking-pictures-how-prabhakaran-s-son-brutally-killed-1153639.html

    The photo that links Prabakaran’s son with the Army is a fake you [Edited out]. Ask one your graphic expert buddies to confirm.

    You can DIY too. Get this tool here.

    http://www.getghiro.org/

    And run that photo against it. How will you know its a fake?

    The image is compressed to a certain degree when a photo is digitized. When you cut and paste two digitized photos the pasted parts are highlighted as they have inconsistent compression levels.

    So you will find the image of the boy has been pasted into a photo of an army bunker.

    The Tamils have conned you yet again.

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      Vibhushana:
      The photo appearing with my column has been entirely at the discretion of CT. NOT PROVIDED BY ME.

      In any event, it will be a bloody cold day in Hades before I start chasing your “references” in any form. I do stick with the old dictum: “Consider the source,” in case you haven’t noticed!

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        @Emil, talking to Vibushanam is like talking to a pig. It will never get through the thick skin to his scull to his empty head. He is a vile racist who will deny any crime committed against a Tamil or any other minority by the gamay buggers who were in power for the last 9 years. The fact of the matter is the new government which claims good governance may or may not carry out their promise. A pig cannot be granted the life of a queen, even in the palace the pig will still look for a septic pit to roll in. So whether it is vibushanam or the prapaksas, they need to be in their familiar habitat…………..septic pit. Let vibushanam roll in his familiar surroundings and you should not go anywhere near it.

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        As colombo Editorial board is Sinhala and Tamil christians, they publish agaINST army, buddhist, get buddhists and christians to bash islam and keep the web site popular.

        Anyway, Mr. Pooten is honest and open man.

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    Vamik Volkan, Professor Emeritus, in Psychiatry, at the University of Virginia, and the founder of the well-known conflict resolution centre at that university, wrote an excellent book in 2004, titled:

    BLIND TRUST: LARGE GROUPS AND THEIR LEADERS IN TIMES OF CRISIS AND TERROR

    There is no other book, in my view, that explains the psychology of Sinhala-Buddhists, in general, and those Sinhala-Buddhists who are vehement supporters of the Rajapakses, in particular, better than this book. To read the book is like going on a journey into the mind of these people.

    Sinhala-Buddhists have a chosen trauma, from which they suffer in a psychological sense. This trauma is the defeat of the Sinhalese kings of Anuradhapura and Polonnaruwa at the hands of South Indian invaders around the end of the first millennia and the flight of the Sinhalese to the South. This is a trauma that is chosen because it is perpetuated in the popular history and embellished in the Mahawamsa.

    And this collective pain is amplified further because of the shame of having been subjugated for 450 years by European powers and the inability of the Sinhalese to regain independence until it was given on a platter by the British.

    The collective violence (read: Discrimination, Race Riots, Nanthikadal, and whatever) of the Sinhalese against the Tamils begins with this trauma. Volkan explains where a group fails to mourn for the losses sustained in the chosen trauma, the trauma lives on. And this leads to the feeling of an entitlement to revenge. Rather than face the anguish of mourning and self-examination, a group can find distraction in self-righteous hostility and aggression against a supposed enemy – the Tamils and the West, in Sri Lanka’s case.

    Volkan further posits the view that there is also collective regression. LTTE’s continued terrorism of two decades and more drove fear and anxiety into the mindset of the Sinhalese. And this, Volkan states, makes the majority regress to early childhood mentality: One’s parents and leaders are good and enemies are bad. There is no discrimination of the good and the bad or the mix of the two. Hence, “as we are completely good”, the enemy is “not only bad, but positively evil”. In other words, Mahinda Rajapakse has been elevated to parenthood, in Volkan’s terminology, and therefore is “all good” and cannot do, or could not have done, any wrong.

    The 2009 defeat of the LTTE in the 30 year war is, by and large, seen as a kind of final redemption of the “shame” of a thousand years of defeat, flight and subjugation of the Sinhalese.

    In this context, to have an inquiry into the events of the last stages of the war, presided over by “outsiders”, is something the Sinhala-Buddhists would not tolerate. Sirisena/Wickramasinghe government knows this well. They know that even their own minority support base among the Sinhala-Buddhist will diminish if they accede to the demand to have international jurists. It would amount to Sirisena and Wickramasinghe cutting their own throats!

    This then is their dilemma. To allow foreigners is to undermine their already weak power. To deny is to lose international credibility. Either way they are checkmated.

    Sri Lankan political leaders and armed forces, most likely, are guilty of war crimes. The denial of war crimes and adamant refusal to have an “independent” inquiry almost amounts to an admission of guilt. Knowing the guilt, no Sinhala politician wants risk an independent inquiry and risk political annihilation.

    Also, Sri Lanka’s situation is different to that of South Africa’s Truth Commission. There it was the “defeated” minority whites who were most guilty. It was easy enough, therefore, for the majority blacks to have a Truth Commission.

    It is difficult to comprehend the way forward. However, to understand the collective psychology of this situation, Vamik Volkan’s book is an essential read. That, at least, is a first step.

    I do know how many would read this comment. Going by the usual commentators, some of whose vocabulary is limited to “Batalanda”, “Dalit” and “how cool”, and whose cerebral capacity is much to be desired, would never read anything intellectual as the writings of Volkan. I know, however, Emil will read this brilliant book, Blind Trust, and, perhaps, Volkan’s earlier books like The Need for Enemies and Bloodlines.

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      You must be a descendant of suckers who brewed Earl Grey for the British in the morning and wiped their asses in the night.

      And got handsome handouts of our ancestral lands free, for the services rendered.

      White fellas never gave a fair go for the rural Sinhala Buddhist then.

      Neither they want to give it now.

      Elite , Anglicans and the Vellaas helped the white fellas then .

      They bend over now even more than before , for obvious reasons.

      Most of our Rural Sinhala Buddhists learned to walk with their heads up only in the last 10 years after the Rajapaksa took over.

      Although it was a very very short period, a few Sinhala Buddhist have come out as outstanding leaders, who will help to protect their community and propel it to prosperity.

      This Yahapalanaya is just a small hiatus.

      With the desperate Christian Faction Leader declaring war on Buddha Sasasana , Maha Sanga bar Malwatta, and even young Digital Age Journalists , Elite and the Anglican domination is on shaky grounds…

      If the Yahaplana constitution comes to fruition , Sinhala Buddhists can in fact be in a better position going forward.

      Because Elite, Anglicans, Vellasa and even Wahabis will find it hard to do business in Sinhala Buddhist Homelands , while keeping their exclusive turfs to themselves.

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        Sumaney:
        I see your vocabulary (such as it is) has expanded into a degree of coherence in the matter of scatology if nowhere else!

        Suffice it to say at this point that the day you come out from under that pseudonymous rock, I know there will be a line-up of those waiting to administer to your posterior what has been long overdue. And don’t expect that to be of a strictly sanitary nature, either.

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          ****Strewth***

          You must be a late convert to the UNP Yahapalana hierarchy…

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          This Bugger Sumanay got a posting as the Sri Lankan High Commissioner in India after bum sucking MR. Now the Bugger is back at base firing all his guns at all and sundry who are against the MR regime. Bloody SOB hates Ranil Wickremasinghe.

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            Jayantha, Kandiah Arasaratnam Sumanasekeram was not sent to India as a diplomat. He was sent to India as a servant boy for the diplomat. Now that the diplomat has been fired, Sumanasekeram is deeply unemployed. He is a disgraceful pariah. So don’t waste your time with him. But if you decide to kill sometime with him, please let me know and I will happily join you in the attack. I will bring pooh filled diapers to sling at this clown. Please let me know eh?

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      Ken Dharmapala:
      Thanks v. much for that most interesting contribution to this discussion which, as usual, avoided the simple-minded “you are in the pay of the Tigers” b.s.!
      My reading time seems limited these days, but I shall certainly seek “Blind Trust” which I expect I can get either through ordering it from one of our local booksellers or on the internet.
      Thanks again
      P.S.
      the thrust of Volkan’s argument seems to be on the same lines as that espoused by most psychologists for the need for a period of grieving in the event of personal loss such as the death of someone near and dear.

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    Mr. Emil van der Poorten
    Excellent piece Sir. But, I am afraid, it is a voice in the wilderness!

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    Sooka wasn’t sooking when Pira was killing Sinha le in thousands …Right Mr Poorten…

    Neither did Poorten.

    As a matter of fact, next to Pirahaparan, Portugese, English and Dutch have the next best scores of killing poor rural Sinhala Buddhists. in that order.

    Bad enough Batalanada has mortgaged our future to Poorten’s mates in the West.

    Now Batta is hell bent on jailing the brave Soldiers and their Commanders who liberated this 2500 year old Buddhist Nation from Thamil Terrorists and locking up any potential threat to their Yahapalana rule.

    It is about time our Sinhale wake up and take the fight to the Elite , Anglicans Vellalas and the Wahabis who are working overtime to finish off the Sinhala Buddhism, Sinhala Buddhist Culture and any influence Sinhala Buddhists have in their own Nation.

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      Sumaney:
      What a rallying call to all your fellow racists!
      How about a first step: revealing your identity so that your followers know whom they are marching behind into the jaws of hell?

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      K.A Sumanasekera (Dr No)

      “It is about time our Sinhale wake up and take the fight to the Elite , Anglicans Vellalas and the Wahabis who are working overtime to finish off the Sinhala Buddhism, Sinhala Buddhist Culture and any influence Sinhala Buddhists have in their own Nation.”

      Sinhala/Buddhism will be finished off by Sinhala/Buddhism. Sinhala/Buddhists culture will destroy itself. Sinhala/Buddhist influence should be expunged.

      These are the best places to hide crooks, psychopaths, war criminals, work shy KASmaalams and Dayans, drug smugglers, murderers, rapists, swindlers, 10 to 30 % commissioners, racists, bigots,most stupidest,…

      Therefore we need to smoke them out from their usual habitat namely Sinhala/Buddhism, Sinhala/Buddhists, Sinhala/Buddhist culture and hopefully Sinhalese and Buddhists would see to that these lowly crooks are exposed and weakened.

      Why don’t you switch your loyalty from free imported Scotch malt whisky to Champagne? Then it would give tradition a good name.

      Champagne socialist rhymes well than Scotch malt whisky socialist.

      When do you take break from typing and the reason why?

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        Dear Native,

        Champers even from Chalon en Champange doesn’t excite me..

        May be it is for your buddy Batalanda Ranil and his mate Mangalan.

        I like Single Malt Rarer the better .

        As a Social Democrats who believes in Economic Equality and a higher standard of living for our Dalits, I don’t like to indulge in snobs drinks to keep up with Johnses.

        Single malts although expensive, gives lasting pleasure without a hangover.

        And costs only a fraction of good champaign unless you are on Sparling from Ontario.

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    An excellent analysis by Emil and very candid.Bensen

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    Mr Poorten said “I have said it before and I will say it again: the only way that we will see an objective analysis of what happened during the violent ethnic conflict that ended in 2009 will be if an international tribunal of committed and skilled people conducts such an examination and analysis”. Absolutely I agreed with you wholeheartedly.

    Even before the Portuguese presence in Srilanka, the ethnic cleansing of Tamils began but halted by the invasion of Portuguese, English and Dutch.That is the history.

    The history of Srilankan ethnic cleansing can be halted by by bring in the best legal professionals from those previous invades to the investigation panel.

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    In this WAr, Sri lankan Govt was one party.

    What was the other country ?

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      @Jim softly
      You can bet no one will want to answer your question. !! Not even those calling for War Crime tribunals.

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      Jim Softy & Maalumiris:
      Wrong!
      The other party was OUR OWN people much as you might want to call them “Demalas” etc. etc.
      THAT was the real tragedy that is being compounded by a refusal to face that simple reality and see that justice is done irrespective of ethnicity.

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        @Emil van der Poorten

        I am happy to be wrong in this case but I am puzzled why you acknowledge the existence of “the other side” (you can call ’em what you like), while the call for tribunals is only upon one side ?

        Incidentally, the GOSL and it’s agencies were not purely Sinhala as you seem to hint between the lines. There were (and are) Sinhalas, Tamils, Muslims and even some Burghers in it’s ranks.

        Hopefully the lines of objectivity are not blurred for CT readers by the use of “OUR OWN PEOPLE” as a convenient device to pretend that we actually mean both sides when we really mean one !

        Did the others get a ‘free pass’ ? Certainly seems like it from the number of honourable mentions they have received (0)

        As to the angst about trials and tribunals, I think the “lumpen” (and government) of any country (especially the West) would object most strongly if any agency accuses them of ANY rights violations

        The UN has reported extensively on Canada’s HR violations. Their special forces JTF2 has been accused of a number of war crimes, and Canada has told them to “get stuffed” in no uncertain terms. Why would anyone expect any less from us ?

        As the saying goes “Api Kalu-da ?”

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          maalumiris

          Why the hell are you nitpicking on what the author has stated?

          As I have stated before all war crimes committed by all parties to conflicts including Hindians’ IPKF during the period from 5th April 1971 to 2010 should be investigated.

          Please fill in the dotted lines the names of war criminals whom you think ought to be investigated:

          ……….
          ……..
          ……..
          ……..
          ……..

          Welcome those who honest enough to appear before an independent commission to confess, own up, say sorry, beg mercy, …… receive pardon, …. move on …

          It is simple as that.

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            @Native Vedda

            When the hell did Emil die and make you his mouthpiece ?

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              maalumiris

              Our resident dimwit Jimmy asked as stupid question:

              “In this WAr, Sri lankan Govt was one party. What was the other country ?”

              Had Gota been wise he should have kept all those surrendered LTTE cadres alive including its high command and charge them for war crimes and crime against humanity. Now you should demand the war criminal to supply the list of those who surrendered Terrorists, then charge them.

              The investigation can begin with Dayan who supported EPRLF while it was committing war crimes, then Premadasa’s military commanders and bureaucrats (most of them are still alive) who supplied LTTE with arms, ammunition, cash, logistics, …… diplomatic cover and sustained LTTE after the withdrawal of IPKF.

              Then of course you have KP, Karuna, Pillayan, and other sundries.

              You have been sitting on the fence for a long it appears you have now decided to join the Dimwits.

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          Maalumiris:
          Trying to corral the kind of gibberish that you keep repeating is like trying to herd cats!
          Yes, the GOSL’s forces weren’t “Sinhala only” and there is a superb example of a man (on the run) who claimed Burgher ethnicity who was allegedly the chief torturer and executioner of the regime just past. WTF does that disprove in my contention that ALL those guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity should be prosecuted? Repeating Goebbelsian lies has NEVER made them the truth, but why would one expect someone like you to know that?

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          Incidentally, the GOSL and it’s agencies were not purely Sinhala as you seem to hint between the lines.

          Just a mater of grammar:

          “It’s” means “It is”.

          “Its” means “belong to it”.

          This is a common error made by many.

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    Sorry about the grammatical error @Ken Dharmapala.. i guess it comes of a local education. English as second language and all that. Thank you for pointing it out.

    If ANYONE bleating for Tribunals and War Crimes trials are actually expecting them to materialise just because Yasmin Sooka and a bunch of wretched bleeding-hearts are clamouring for it for various reasons, the least of which is “Truth and Reconciliation”.

    Have another think.

    You guys want Nuremberg while admitting “all it’s flaws” ??? What manner of stupidity that ? You all know Nuremberg (and every subsequent so-called “trial”) was a Victor-against-Vanquished trial and the outcomes were fore-ordained. I am sure if that is what you want, THAT can be arranged. But that’s not the Real Agenda is it ?

    All you want a trial, with a thin but respectable veneer of “War Crimes” and “HR Violations” where you can be sure that the GOSL and it’s arms are the only ones in the dock (others gone conveniently MIA), the verdict is already in the sealed envelope and the sentence is punitive for having had the gall to do what many said was impossible.

    ANY administration will be signing it’s death warrant if they allow such a thing to happen. Doesn’t matter whether it is MR1, MR2, JRJ or anyone else.

    Do you honestly think India is going to allow it’s army to be paraded in front of a trial just to satisfy Yasmin Sooka ?

    Get real. Emil, Step away from the Pink Unicorn !

    Fortunately, politicians are not as stupid as some of you are aspiring to be.

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      Maalumiris:
      We are talking about PRINCIPLES, ETHICS, MORALITY and all those wonderful things that seem totally alien to “realists” such as yourself. Have you ever considered what it means to dump all of that and begin anew in a world of your creation? Ah, but then you probably believe that you will always be in the ranks of the “victors!”
      Don’t give me “get real” rubbish because that is and has ALWAYS been the final defense of the indefensible.
      As for “bleeding hearts” – thanks for the appellation it is one that I will wear with pride in the context in which it has been applied!
      P.S.
      Don’t even you find something a little contradictory about all this “victor” against “vanquished” crap? Pray tell who were the “victors” and who the “vanquished” in our own civil war, particularly in a context in which you state that the “vanquished” have already been “vanished.”

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        @Emil van der Poorten

        What principles ? What ethics ? What morality ? These all belong to and are defined by the Victor in any conflict. Just like History.

        The Colonials successively declared victory over this country starting in the 1400’s. Do you contest that fact ? Before that, Successive South Indian empires did the same. Are you saying there is no Victor and Vanquished there ?

        What kind of strange, fluffy world are you living in ?

        Don’t be obtuse. You know EXACTLY what “Victor” and “Vanquished” means here. You are simply muddying the waters in an attempt to prove your point.

        Show me a SINGLE NATION on this planet that practices these things consistently and in this context, regularly ships off their soldiers to Courts Martial, HR Commissions, War Crime Tribunals and I will concede your point.

        Fact is, You Cannot.

        Even the recent much-advertised British Army war crimes have miraculously been cancelled by the British Government (look elsewhere on CT or on the Guardian website for this) These are the some of the very same people who are asking US to do what THEY will not.

        Why Should We ?????????

        We don’t need to dump anything and begin anew. Nation states act in their own interest, regardless of Principles, Morality or Ethics.

        Come back when EVERYONE is adhering to them. Not when the third-world in general and Sri Lanka in particular is being coerced directly and indirectly by the likes of the Brits, the US, Yasmin Sooka, HRW etc. and lackeys like you and the Native, pretending to a Higher Morality beyond the bounds of Reality.

        THEN I will agree with you and say “Yes, we are wrong to swim against the tide, we must be more humane, just and fair”

        Right now, we are doing EXACTLY what the West and everyone else is doing., if they find no moral issues with their own actions, why should we ?

        The answer to the question in your Post-Scriptum

        Sri Lanka
        Vanquished = LTTE
        Victor = GOSL

        WWII
        Vanquished = Axis
        Victor = Allies

        Canada
        Vanquished = FLQ
        Victor = Canadian Government

        United States
        Vanquished = Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, etc. etc.
        Victor = USA
        Totally screwed-up for all time and spawning a headache for all the neighbours = See “Vanquished” above

        United Kingdom
        Vanquished = IRA
        Victor = HM Government

        War Crimes / Human Rights Violated during above conflicts
        Vanquished = Countless, Innumerable.
        Victor = Zero.

        Now if you are going to be tiresome and whine about civilians losing lives etc etc. Of course civilians lost lives. I am not being cavalier about it. If you can point out an armed conflict in the 20th and 21st Centuries where no civilian has lost their lives, do let me know

        .. and please, no smarmy comments about going into battle with Geneva Convention in one hand and Rifle in the other – we all know how realistic that is !

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          maalumiris

          VP & Hindia Vanquished = LTTE

          Victor = Hindia

          Stupid = GOSL

          Very Stupid = Those who fought and died for the grave errors of their leaders

          Very, very stupid = The people who sacrificed in the past 65 years and yet voted for the despots, crooks, criminals, …

          Morons = Who gloated hollow victory

          Rules of the game = Drafted and played by Hindia.

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          Maalumiris:
          (Pretending to be Kochchimiris)
          “We don’t need to dump anything and begin anew. Nation states act in their own interest, regardless of Principles, Morality or Ethics.” That says it all about where you stand in the matter of Principles, Morality and Ethics – You ACTIVELY support dispensing with all of that which is supposed to differentiate humans from lesser beings. Or are you going to come up with some obtuse “explanation” of your vicious belief system?
          I don’t think anyone reading what you have to say in defense of the indefensible had any doubt about that up to now, but it didn’t hurt to have you confirm the fact.
          By the way, why don’t you emerge from under that pseudonymous rock now that opponents of the government in power don’t risk white van disappearances that your principles, morality and ethics OBVIOUSLY countenanced while you-know-who was in power?

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            @Emil van der Poorten

            Your recurring stance on any argument is either insult and/or name-calling. It’s a pity that you have to resort to that.

            Indeed, now you can claim your rejoinders were really a masterpiece of brilliant, cunningly-crafted and strategic writing designed to “make” me admit that Nation States act in their own interests with no regard to Morality, Ethics or Principle.

            I am sure this is a Revelation to all readers of CT and they did not know this until you cleverly made me write it down without me even realising it !!!!

            Well Played ! Very Machiavellian !

            While CT allows me the privilege of commenting, I don’t get paid to author pieces. Therefore, if I choose to use a pseudonym, that’s MY business and none of yours !

            Your notion of Morality is totally unrealistic and will come to pass when the Second Coming happens. Not before.

            I ask you yet again, show me a single country that practices your Morality, Principles and Ethics as a matter of course.

            Prove me wrong

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            @Emil van der Poorten

            If you cannot prove me wrong, then I fear I have no more time to waste on this topic

            By the way, you really believe that “Principles, Morality and Ethics” make us “Greater” Beings ?

            Sure, we wave them around, like you are doing, in order to impress others with our supposed Superiority, Enlightenment and (Western) Liberal Views. In reality they are thrown out of the window when any opportunity comes along ! Humans make war and kill for profit, pleasure, power and money. They Lie, Cheat and would sell their people and countries for any advantage, personal or political. Friends become enemies and enemies become allies at the drop of a hat (or at the first sniff of oil).

            “Principles, Morality and Ethics” is all just fluff to be used when it is convenient for us to do so and ignored at all other times.

            Thank you for an interesting exchange

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    Maalumiris,
    To the likes of Mr Wonder(ing)(im)Potent, civilians lives and casualties become highlighted only in select conflicts. Any other conflict they will dismiss as collateral damage! Modayas like this are in large numbers here judging by the comments.

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      Anotherbuddist (sic):
      I am hugely impressed by your attempt at sophisticated and witty comment, particularly coming from a half-wit who doesn’t even know how to spell the name of the religion to which he claims to belong!

      Incidentally, do you live under the same rock as the rest of the pandankarayas who collected kappang while the going was good?

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    anotherbuddist

    “To the likes of Mr Wonder(ing)(im)Potent, civilians lives and casualties become highlighted only in select conflicts.”

    Could elaborate.

    I didn’t know one could assess war damages by the speed, size, colour and stiffness of one’s willy. What do you call the gadget? Another-willy metre.

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    Native Veda and his master
    Two inches the length of the willy – standard US looking Sri Lankan like you.

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      anotherbuddist

      “Two inches the length of the willy – standard US looking Sri Lankan like you.”

      What you saw was the tip of an iceberg.

      By the way, why were you looking at me while I was attending to my morning duties? Do you suffer from p***s envy?

      That is too bad.

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