23 September, 2019

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Chandrika Inclusive, Whom Have We Tamils Spared?

By S. Sivathasan –

S. Sivathasan

S. Sivathasan

Jiddu Krishnamurthy said in arresting words “Everyone is good at making morals for others”. Yes we Tamils are best at it. That’s our forte. Do we ask for a moment are we so impeccable as to cast the first stone? So innocent as to ward off the guillotine if it comes to our neck? Is it not time to realize that we have unlocked horns for now and earned a respite to search for fresh pastures? Instead we engage in levity. With no thought we use the same brush on everyone.

Imperatives of Power 

Handling the state apparatus is serious business. Plekhanov said some 90 years ago, we talk of revolution but our hands shiver at the thought of touching power. He said this complimenting Lenin for his success. A revolution was not a tea party for Mao. It was so for the peaceful revolution in Ceylon and Tamils faced ’56 and ’58. With Sihanouk’s tolerance a third of Cambodia perished. Taking a lesson, Premadasa and Ranjan Wijeratne saved  SL polity from a Pol Pot in 1989.

Kumaratunga photographed after the LTTE suide attack

Kumaratunga photographed after the LTTE suide attack

Patel, Deputy PM and in charge of Home Ministry stumbled across Manekshaw in Calcutta in 1947. After a brief discussion he asked M how many should he shoot to bring the situation under control.  Answer was 1000. Order was shoot 2000 and bring the situation under control. Result was 6 were injured. Rajaji would have said, ”conquer with love” as he said for Goa in 1948 or so. Lee Quan Yew with communist unrest internally in the mid-sixties and threat of infiltration from Malaysia and Indonesia insulated Singapore with an iron hand. Not everybody had that wisdom.

The above is the stuff of which governance is made. A strange amalgam of resolve and sagacity. It is difficult to think of Deng’s reforms and today’s China without the showdown at Tien An Men Square. An accused at Nuremberg said in defense that he did what he did “To prevent worse things happening”. Being wise in retrospect is the most facile recourse. Chandrika never had the option of inaction and wise crack or subsequent gloat or remorse.

TGTE and Chandrika

Now with precipitate action by a Tamil body, the one and only Head of State in the world, a daughter of Prime Ministerial parentage is being arraigned before global view. The Tamils I talked to are simply wild with rage at this action of their compatriots. The deed is done and there is neither retrieval nor damage control. Many are not with us, the most prominent being Rajiv Gandhi. Quite a few had the lamp of life extinguished with a wave of the Tamil hand. The President of the country being one among them. Collective retribution has visited us and the grip shows no signs of loosening. Are there efforts at mitigation? Not in sight at least to me. Assassination is heinous. No less when aimed at character. It is here that we have to rise to the last individual in disavowal of TGTE action already done.

Personal Association

What I am privy to I seldom or never make public. Yet if doing so can absolve a personage of a possible slur, it becomes necessary. About ten years ago President Chandrika told me that, whatever the harm done to her and the loss of one eye, she bears no ill will towards those who did it. May be that I have grown spiritually, never to mind it. I shall strive to do my best towards amity. On another occasion she recalled the events of Tiger Friday, July 1983. Kumarathunga and she were on Galle Road, Kollupitiya laboring to rescue Tamils caught up in the throes of death, between fire and dagger. Some miscreants asked them aggressively are you honda Sinhala (good Sinhalese). She answered api honda Sinhala (we are good Sinhalese) and continued with their operations. Why should both of them have braved a difficult situation? I can assert without a shadow of doubt that she was totally above ethnic limitations. Dudley and she were  a category apart. In both of them, it is true performance did not always match intentions and professions.

Our Condition

We Tamils are constantly beaten into submission, continuously remain submerged and rarely raise our heads above water. When the last one happens, members of the same kind push the head down. When Provincial Council elections were announced, PC became useless and a cry for boycott arose as a category of political wisdom. The nomination of CV Wigneswaran brought forth venomous criticism from a somnolent diaspora. In the process TNA leader too was not spared. The prospect of victory at Geneva prompted a Tamil team to be in place to oppose the authentic spokesmen of the Tamils. Our miserable history is, when butter churns, the pot crumbles.

At this point of time a favourable political climate is developing in India with the ruling party getting a decisive majority. It has the basis to act with strength and resolution. The NPC in tune with the pulse of the people is already in place. TNA the accepted leadership of the Tamils has the mandate to negotiate. What is discordant for political progress and ethnic peace is the current regime. That too is on the threshold of change. A winnable common candidate to garner votes from unlikely quarters is Chandrika. What is said is not a discovery but a commonplace. TGTE disturbing this equation is unfortunate. Is it with due thought that Chandrika’s name is being befouled? Do the Tamil segments with votes endorse this step? Definitely not. When the Tamil polity is ready for fruitful talks with India let not our side spoil the atmosphere by antagonizing our likely benefactor.

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    “President CBK was perhaps less deceptive but she too was not really committed to resolving the Tamil grievances except where she could also enhance her own self interest.” https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/can-the-establishment-win-over-modi/

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      That isn’t reason enough to bracket her with the Rajapakses.
      She apologised in the parliament for Black July.

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        Classic JT mentality kick the backside and feel the face-

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        Anpu
        Yes, she was responsible for Kumar Ponnambalam’s death, etc….. – but the Rajapakses are so much worse than all the other very bad people, nobodyelse can be bracketed with them.

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      Anpu, my friend the unyielding Kumar P would have agreed with you.
      To use my Uncle’s narrative “she’s the best of the (near) worst”
      No dispute, she was liberal – and so was her Dad, who mocked those
      unarmed protestors at Galle Face Green in 1957 (?) But liberalism and democratic accommodation was sidelined when Sarath K’s Chinese
      Restaurant was machine-gunned in daylight in her years. The same
      machine-gun gang, under the direction of a faithful ASP she refused to visit in jail when she was out of power, did the same thing on Lasantha’s house with his wife and children within. To use the narrative of the same uncle “they are all the same”

      Sivathasan has succeeded in catching CBK’s eye as he places the future of his community in preference to the goodwill of his one time employer with fond hopes, arguably, of her being his Boss again. That’s life, eh! with a whole lot of goodie philosopher-pretenders around?

      Hooker

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        Girl you sound like a high class hooker from the tone of your message. What is the going rate just a joke.

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          I am not that kind of Hooker, Kali Amma. For the day’s rate for the kind of sick fun you are focussing on, you should get in touch with Duminda, Anarkali, Dhammika P, Kudu Mervin and the lot in MR’s inner circle. They are all Pros in the game. They deal with Chicks and Cocaine. With young Packer threatening to come with the necessary backup from the Palace the field for those “hungry for flesh” becomes all too wider. Count on the Chintana old chap. It delivers this kind of stuff.

          Hooker

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      Anpu,

      She was working very hard with Neelan Thruchelvam in formulating a federal constitution and at the same time educating the Sinhala public about a federal solution. If I can cast my mind back, there was a survey carried out among the Sinhala on a federal solution; 60% supported it.

      VP killed it off by sending a suicide bomber to kill a world renowned Constitutional lawyer Thiruchelvam. I am not saying that CBK is a saint far from it but we should recognise that she tried to push through a federal solution.

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        Thank you Burning Issue and others.

        I simply copied what Mr Senanayake has written on https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/can-the-establishment-win-over-modi/

        I do not have sufficient knowledge of what all the past Srilankan PMs and presidents have done. But I know all of them have contributed to the situation we are in now. The worst one is RAJPAKSE.

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          Of course Rajapakse have contributed to the situation you are now in.

          NO war, no bombs, no massacres, no checkpoints in colombo, no LTTE, no suicide terrorism so that world has forgotten what you did and you can happily act as the victim!

          The laughable and equally sad thing is the tamils inability and dislike to take responsibility for their own actions. The suffering caused by war happened not because of any ruler in south because of your LTTE and the war they conducted!

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          Dear Anpu,

          “I do not have sufficient knowledge of what all the past Srilankan PMs and presidents have done. But I know all of them have contributed to the situation we are in now. The worst one is RAJPAKSE”

          You have missed the most important personage.
          The guy who started this Racist Snowball rolling.
          But of course he is not a PM or a President and is not a Sinhalese or a Buddhist.

          Mr G. G. Ponnambalam, the Founder of the All Ceylon Tamil Congress chose Racism as a Political Tool to dethrone the Ramanathans whose politics was casteism.

          If you are looking for someone to blame, blame the Father of Racism in 20th Century Sri Lanka, Mr. GGP. He started the racist snowball.

          References –
          1. “The Hindu Organ” the Anglo/Tamil fortnightly published by the Siva Paripalana Sabai and edited by Mr. T. Chellappa-pillai, who was the retired Chief Justice of Travancore.

          2. Communal politics under the Donoughmore Constitution, 1931-1947, by Jane Russell

          Kind Regards,
          OTC

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            Please take a hike! You have been told repeatedly about GG P and you still play the old broken record! Get a life and try to be honest to yourself!

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              Dear Burning Issue,

              The Lord Speaks and we mortals have to listen!
              Pompous separatist propagandist!!

              Tough to contest what a honourable Tamil and an English historian says big boy?

              GGP Is the Father of Racism and you have no way of contesting it because it is the truth.

              You cannot blame the VERY FIRST Tamil Sinhala Race Riot of 1939 on either the Buddhist, the Sinhalese, the Buddhist Monks or the Mahavamsa. The blame lies SQUARELY on the Tamil Shoulders of the Racist GGP and other Tamils who supported him.

              Get the picture Gas Bag?

              Kind Regards,
              OTC

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            Off the Cuff

            References –

            1. “The Hindu Organ” the Anglo/Tamil fortnightly published by the Siva Paripalana Sabai and edited by Mr. T. Chellappa-pillai, who was the retired Chief Justice of Travancore.

            2. Communal politics under the Donoughmore Constitution, 1931-1947, by Jane Russell

            Could you quote the chapter and pages where it was quoted that “If you are looking for someone to blame, blame the Father of Racism in 20th Century Sri Lanka, Mr. GGP. He started the racist snowball.”

            Seriously state what those two publication say about GG Ponnampalam and the often quoted 1939 riots. Then give us the pages.

            As I mentioned earlier my Elders have access to both The Hindu Organ and Communal politics under the Donoughmore Constitution, 1931-1947, by Jane Russell.

            I asked Banda and Mechanic the same question both conveniently ignored.

            My elders have gone through the entire book and they find no mention of GG Ponnampalam starting the riots nor do they found Ponna’s racism.

            Have you ever had the chance to read the book or Hindu Organ in your life time?

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              Dear NV,

              I moved my reply to the Newer Comments page (page 2). It has been addressed to you and the CT readership.

              Please read the following link and reply.

              https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/chandrika-inclusive-whom-have-we-tamils-spared/comment-page-2/#comment-1289645

              Kind Regards,
              OTC

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                Off the Cuff

                “I moved my reply to the Newer Comments page (page 2). It has been addressed to you and the CT readership”

                I have asked you specific questions, be a man and address it as a response to my earlier comment above.

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                  Dear NV,

                  Re “I have asked you specific questions, be a man and address it as a response to my earlier comment above”

                  Have you gone nuts?

                  It is my reply to your comment (with the specific question) that was moved to the New page. I have stated that very clearly when I wrote

                  I moved my reply to the Newer Comments page (page 2). It has been addressed to you and the CT readership.

                  Kind Regards,
                  OTC

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      S. Sivathasan –

      Tamils, especially LTTE are very racist.

      That is why they have not spared the Sinhala and Muslims.

      Sinhala Monk Mahanama “Buddhists”, are not as racist as the Tamils. They wanted to maintain the Monk Mahanama “Buddhist” hegemony.

      However, Both Para-Tamils and Para-Sinhala are Paras from South India., The DNA in them proves that. Just test the DNA for haplo groups.

      When will the para-sinhala and Para-Tamil leave for South infia, and leave the Land Land of native Veddah in Peace and Tranquility?

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_by_ethnic_group

      Y-DNA haplogroups by ethnic group
      From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      Dominant Y-chromosome haplogroups in pre-colonial world populations, with possible migrations routes according to the Coastal Migration Model.
      Listed here are notable ethnic groups by Y-DNA haplogroups based on relevant studies. The data are presented in two columns for each haplogroup with the first being the sample size (n) and the second the percentage in the haplogroup designated by the column header. The samples are taken from individuals identified with the ethnic and linguistic designations in the first two columns

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    “TGTE disturbing this equation is unfortunate”.

    Sorry Siva, you should have called it “CRIMINAL”

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      Indra you Sinkalam:

      You are right there are a lot of the following in your quarters.

      CRIMINALS
      THUGS
      LOOTERS
      LIARS
      DRUG DEALERS
      DELIVERY DRIVERS.

      What a nice looking CV we cant match it.

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        Kali, are you describing the talents of the people in your camp?

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    It makes you question what are the real motives of the TGTE.

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    To the best of my knowledge, Chandrika was always absolutely non-racist/non-communalist. In that she stood/stands head and shoulders above most of our other leaders. And I do believe that it was with a genuine desire to solve the national problem that she embarked upon her Presidentship.

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      One is reluctantly compelled to agree with Ms Manel Fonseka except
      CBK too fears to cross the yellow line drawn by the ubiquitous Mullahs of the yellow Brigade and their hyporatic Ayatollahs in Kandy. That is the tragedy of the country from the 1950s – that, fortunately, has a fair quota of good-intentioned Eglish-speaking citizens like Manel. But in fairness to her, CBK she will be more forthcoming if she gets another avatar now that the country knows the true colours of its own sadhus some of whom were sanguinely plunged into the snake-pit of
      opportunistic and unwholesome Parliamentary politics.

      R. Varathan

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        Personally, for her own sake, I hope Chandrika resists the calls to her to return to the political fray.

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          !!I hope Chandrika resists the calls to her to return to the political fray. !!

          Chandrika like father and mother spawned fascism in Ceylon.
          Bury her alive today and Vijaya’s ghost would rest in peace.

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        The reason why Lanka cannot free itself from misery is because of these blind loyalties to political leaders.

        When Chandrika was in power, many blind political loyalists including in the left and left allied civil movements with high sounding titles failed to act against her undemocratic ways though they shouted long and hard when Jayawardene and Premadasa were in power. Chandrika may not have been non-communalistic, Ms Fonseka but she was also a in-disciplined leader with no real capacity at leadership and listening to toadies. She ruined the judicial system by the appointment of her pal Sarath Silva whom she thought will dance to her tune until he turned against her as well. She had no actual will to implement a democratic administration.

        I agree with Anpu that all Sri Lankan Presidents were bad though unquestionably, this current one is the worst of them all.

        The thing is that these past President must not pretend that they are saints as Chandrika now tries to do. They must apologise for what they have done. perhaps then, Sinhalese and Tamils will accept them without being cynical

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          Chandra G

          “The reason why Lanka cannot free itself from misery is because of these blind loyalties to political leaders. “

          It is the majoritarian stupidity that drives politics, life and death.

          Secondly source of majoritarian stupidity is the Mahawamsa history.

          Think about it.

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    None of the Sinhala leaders cared for Tamils. Tamil bashing is route to power for all of them.

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      Sivathasan’s opinion using CBK is the best example I have seen that could be used as start of real Sinhala-Tamil reconciliation…
      @Rajesh, Anpu Varthan… your comments sadly indicate that there is no room in your brain/hart for reconciliation… You guys completely ignore the message of Sivathasan.. What South Africa or UN supported reconciliation effort could do in SL??? It looks like you guys only want to punish MR/GR/CBK/SF type Sinhalese, but no intention to put Karuna, KP type Tamil guys under the same judicial process…

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        AVB
        Just read my this specific comment carefully. I said none of the Sinhala leaders cared for Tamils. Are you denying it?

        I cant speak for Anpu or Varathan. In my opinion the Sinhala Sri Lanka need a fresh leader who has the courage to stand up to the Buddhist Monks the. I think in Wigneswaran Tamils already have a fresh and inteligent leader.

        I never posted any comment ever in CT in support Karuna or KP. They are traitors.

        Read my comment about TGTE’s list of Dirty Dozen.

        Thank You

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          Dear Rajesh,

          Re “I never posted any comment ever in CT in support Karuna or KP. They are traitors.”

          Traitors to whom?

          The Megalomaniac Prabahkaran and his band of thugs and supporters?

          You would have been praising them had they stayed with the LTTE.

          Kind Regards,
          OTC

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      Dear All,

      What Rajesh writes is convoluted propaganda. Far removed from the Truth.

      He won’t challenge this post with a logical argument but will resort to childish antics unbecoming of a rational human.

      Sinhala bashing was the route to power for GG Ponnambalam. He achieved his objective by toppling Ramanathan from the leadership position he held amongst the Tamils. Unfortunately he set fire to Lanka by precipitating the FIRST Tamil/Sinhala communal riots of the 20th century in 1939, smashing to smithereens the communal peace that existed for centuries.

      The Tamil intelligentsia was so humiliated by GGP’s antics that Mr. T. Chellappa-pillai, Editor Hindu Organ, used expletives such as “Hot Heads”, “Gas Bags”, “irresponsible talkers” to described GGP.

      The Editor wrote in an Editorial in 1939 “Communal differences, though there existed hardly any during the time of the last generation of leaders, have now been multiplied and intensified, thanks to the hot-heads and irresponsible talkers in the country who care more for the plaudits of the mob than for the welfare of the people” Prophetically, the Editorial was Titled “THE WRITING ON THE WALL”.

      In the Ramanathan era Tamil politics centered around cast. After GGP, it became Race centered.

      GGP was the father of Racism of 20th Century Lankan politics.

      The vociferous and militant Tamils ignore history and keep following the destructive path blazed by GGP.

      I know that the truth will incense the Rabid and they will start calling me names. But the TRUTH cannot be denied by name calling. Especially when it’s recorded History.

      References –
      1. “The Hindu Organ” the fortnightly published by the Siva Paripalana Sabai and edited by Mr. T. Chellappa-pillai, who was the retired Chief Justice of Travancore.

      2. Communal politics under the Donoughmore Constitution, 1931-1947, by Jane Russell

      Kind Regards,
      OTC

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        Dear OTC – here we are discussing CBK listed as one of the Dirty Dozens and the mertis of it.

        But you are cutting and posting your pre typed same old crap about Ponnambalam and Ramanathan and Mr. T. Chellappa-pillai.

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          Dear Rajash,

          You write so much of crap that you don’t know what you have written.

          Here is a reminder of what you wrote. Look it up at May 21, 2014 at 3:10 pm

          “None of the Sinhala leaders cared for Tamils. Tamil bashing is route to power for all of them.”

          I responded to your second sentence with an example of Sinhala Bashing by a Tamil Politico that was successfully used to climb the political tree.

          You do have an uncanny way of putting your foot in your mouth.

          Kind Regards,
          OTC

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            ah got you ….you were responding to my second sentenance only?
            you poor thing!why didnt you say so!
            so how about my first sentence…..oh dont bother replying I already know your responce it GGP and Ramanathan and Cheliah Pillai right?

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              Dear Rajash,

              Re “you poor thing!why didnt you say so!”

              You claimed you can comprehend English.
              But you don’t after all!!
              Thanks for confirming your partial blindness.

              Re “so how about my first sentence”

              It’s a Load of Rubbish that you cannot maintain.
              Advance your argument then you will see.

              Kind Regards
              OTC

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                you are totally blind!

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                  Lost interest in your first question?

                  Kind Regards,
                  OTC

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                    OTC I am still waiting for you to respond to it. Yo admitted you only responded to my first question.
                    I am now moving on to other forums in CT.

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                      Another case of language deficiency?

                      Did you not understand the following sentance in my previous post?

                      It’s a Load of Rubbish that you cannot maintain. Advance your argument then you will see.

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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                    !!It’s a Load of Rubbish that you cannot maintain. Advance your argument then you will see. !!

                    Orangutan otc is sihala buddhist rump. The pook who makes a living commenting for and on behalf of meeharak familial.
                    Added to it otc is like sevela the animal with a cast issue perhaps half animal.

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                      Well looks like the empty headed guttersnipe cannot think of anything other than exhibiting his uncouth upbringing and defecating all over CT.

                      We are indeed fortunate that he is no Lankan.

                      Kind Regards
                      OTC

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                Don’t fool any anybody. From Bandaranayake to JR everybody changed their religion to reap the fruit of Tharmapala’s fire. The racist SWRD who studied with pants in Oxford changed to a dress to show anti-other races he is. Neither G.G nor SJV changed their religion or pants because they are politicians and Lawyers, dot Drama actors.

                You yet to have to show a reference to G.G’s speech that is really against Sinhalese Race.

                What you are trying to do how smart you are cooking stories and lies. Now verybody got a sense of it. In the process of protecting your lies and King’s family you are not ready let them face a court British Apex court.

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                  Dear Mallaiyuran,

                  Re “You yet to have to show a reference to G.G’s speech that is really against Sinhalese Race.

                  I suppose you have been wearing coloured glasses that filters out authentic history.

                  My comments about GGP is supported in most of my comments that deal with that issue here on CT as is elsewhere.

                  You have no chance to trivialize them as the sources are authentic. Some Tamil and Some British.

                  Read my reply to Native Veddha here for the Latest.
                  https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/chandrika-inclusive-whom-have-we-tamils-spared/comment-page-2/#comment-1289645

                  Re “What you are trying to do how smart you are cooking stories and lies”

                  No, just exposing how dumb you are when you cook stories.

                  Kind Regards,
                  OTC

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                    OTC,
                    In your scale of racism where would place anagarika dharmapala?
                    Thanks

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                      Dear Anpu,

                      Please list the racism of Anagarika that you can support with authentic references then we can discuss.

                      Personally, I would prefer to discuss the present rather than the past. Such as how untenable and unreasonable demands on the Public resources is standing in the way of a honourable solution to the ethnic issue. Every time I bring it up the opposing camp withdraws in to a shell.

                      I bring up the Past only as a defense against false propaganda.

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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                      OTC,

                      “Please list the racism of Anagarika that you can support with authentic references then we can discuss.

                      Personally, I would prefer to discuss the present rather than the past. “

                      (1) You have enough IT skill to search and find information on Anagarika on the inetrnet. So I will leave it to you.
                      (2) You are the one going on and on…. on GG. Have you ever thought why GG made those speeches , 50:50 etc? In my opinion he does not deserve that kind of criticism from you. I also used to think was not he stupid on this 50:50. Now I know bit more history and I think what he was asking for equality (balanced representation).
                      (3) TAMILS did not ask for EELAM in 1948.

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                      Dear Anpu,

                      Re “(1) You have enough IT skill to search and find information on Anagarika on the inetrnet. So I will leave it to you”

                      Does that mean you are not skilled on IT?
                      You see Anpu this is how it works.
                      You advance your theory and I will contest it.
                      If you are too lazy to do your own leg work, don’t expect others to do it for you.

                      Re “(2) You are the one going on and on…. on GG. Have you ever thought why GG made those speeches , 50:50 etc? In my opinion he does not deserve that kind of criticism from you. I also used to think was not he stupid on this 50:50. Now I know bit more history and I think what he was asking for equality (balanced representation).”

                      I have TRUTHFULLY identified GGP as the Father of Racist Politics in Modern Sri Lanka using unimpeachable sources, in order to demolish the FALSE Separatist Propaganda that blames Racism on the Sinhalese, the Buddhists and the Mahavamsa.

                      Tough luck if the TRUTH is bitter to you.
                      I will repeat what I say about GGP whenever the Separatist point an UNJUST finger at the Sinhalese/Buddhist/Mahavamsa accusing them of racism because that finger will be Lying.

                      My sources are respected Tamils who lived in 1939, providing FIRST HAND information about the 1939 riots between Tamils and Sinhalese (Editor of the Hindu Organ)and a respected British Historian who lived amongst the Tamils in Jaffna when she researched her thesis, Dr Jane Russel. Her thesis was published as a book “Communal Politics Under the Donoughmore Constitution, 1931-1947”

                      1939 is the year the FIRST Tamil Sinhala riot took place in Modern Lanka.

                      GGP made those speeches to dethrone the Ramanthan clan from the leadership position they held for decades in Jaffna Politics.

                      50-50 is not EQUAL representation. It is a cunning method of stultifying Universal Franchise and violating a BASIC principle of Democracy, one man one vote.

                      50-50 meant that 4 Sinhalese Votes = 1 minority vote.

                      Ask for that in Canada or UK or USA and then you will see how Ethnic Riots start.

                      Re “(3) TAMILS did not ask for EELAM in 1948”

                      No They PLANNED for it 26 years earlier in 1922.

                      “…namely to keep alive and propagate these precious ideals throughout Ceylon, Southern India and the Tamil Colonies, to promote the union and solidarity of Tamilakam, the Tamil Land. We should keep alive and propagate these ideals throughout Ceylon and promote the union and solidarity of what we have been proud to call Tamil Eelam.

                      Do you know who said that?
                      Ceylon Tamil League (CTL) was formed in 1921.
                      At its 2nd General Meeting in 1922, Sir Ponnambalam Arunachelem delivered a speech from which the above was quoted.

                      Anpu, you and I have been exchanging views for several years. I write factual comments. I have been supporting devolution but I oppose any exclusive ethnic regions because it is inherently unfair and violates Equality.

                      All PUBLIC funding of any project anywhere in Lanka that uses money from the National Budget has a 75% Sinhala contribution. What will happen if the Sinhalese demand that 75% of the National Budget be allocated ONLY to uplift them? There are millions of destitute Sinhalese!

                      If this acrimony between ethnicities escalates and reaches the boiling point that will happen and no international body can argue against it.

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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      Tamils do not need anyone else to do Tamil bashing. Tamils are the best Tamil bashers.
      Many Tamils do best is look at the world to suit them and Tamils only. Pull your stupid heads in and think of others on the planet too, and your problems will be over. Selfish, idiotic bunch of parasites!

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      I have never heard a Sinhala politician bashing tamils … where do these people live anyway not in sri lanka for sure.. but it looks like open season on Sinhalese. its a pity that Proganda gets such larger viewing

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    It runs in her genes- her father was greedy and did not care whom he killed; mother was worse. Chandrika like the mum sacrificed Vijaya to come to power or she would have been a non entity worse than Anura.

    Hindustan is not the treacherous Jaffna Tamil cup of tea.

    JT’s destroyed the citizenship of 1 million Indian Tamils so its only right that JT’s end up like the estate worker or be hounded like terrorist world wide.

    Bolo Hindustan ki jai

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    Who was above ethnic limitations ? Chandrika o0r Vijaya?

    TGTE & Tamils are in blinkers all the time.
    Its best ANPU list out Tamil grievances once again as relentless criticism of every move by GOSL have had them drowned …….. as
    Rudra has been lately on some powder they’ve used to transport.

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      I am not sure what you mean by being “above ethnic limitations” but I would say they were, to all intents and purposes, equally opposed to racism.

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    Hello there Tamil peoples,

    What is this cacophony?

    Collective retribution has visited us and the grip shows no signs of loosening.

    I am afraid this analysis is wrong. I am a keen observer of cause and effect. The way things transpire keep reconfirming beliefs. No where else do I find Karma-Viapaka so strongly manifested with actions of Tamils.

    Tamils first destroy their own so called “moderate” leadership however tiny. Then they destroy the liberal Sinhala leadership leaving the left of center nationalist a monopoly.

    Every time you killed someone the intention was the screw the Sinhala population. Instead you are left diabolically screwed. One can bullshit to others but the system of cause and effect cannot be subverted.

    I am usually correct with my observations. The way forward is to play the cards dealt with honestly without running around lying to all and sundry. That basically means you do what Mahinda Rajapaske tells you to do. If not you lose even what you have now.

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      oi, free education fascist who cares what you think.

      The land belongs to hindustan.

      Mugabe loves you- go away or be bombed.

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        If it belongs to hindustan, Hind halat hoi

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      Vibhushana,

      “Tamils first destroy their own so called “moderate” leadership however tiny.”

      Did Tamils destroy Ramanathan?

      “… Sir Ponnambalam Ramanathan’s entry into public life was at the instance of Maraithiru Arumuga Navalar in 1879. In 1911, he was chosen as candidate to contest and fill the vacancy that arose in the legislative assembly for the All Ceylon Educated Members seat. He was elected. The other contesting candidate was a member of the Sinhala community. The Sinhala Muslim riots take place in the year 1915. The Governor declared martial law. This was harsh. Ramanathan at the behest of his compatriots left for the United Kingdom. The voyage was in the submarine infested waters (of World War I) and his truimphant return was celebrated with a lot of fanfare by being hand drawn in a “Vel Cart – Ther” by the then Sinhala leadership.

      However, within a period of four years he recognised that events were moving in a direction he did not agree with. In 1919, Sir Ponnambalam Arunachalam, his younger brother was elected as President of the Ceylon National Congress. As is the eastern tradition Sir Ponnambalam Arunachalam sought his brothers’ blessings to which Sir Ponnambalam Ramanathan cautioned him and said “Thamby go ahead, but take care you will presently meet with a storm which will hurl you off the chair”. “

      http://tamilnation.co/hundredtamils/ramanathan.htm

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        Dear Anpu,

        You remind me of an old computer game called “Lemmings”. The Lemming is like a tiny bug only take instructions and no deciphering.

        The voyage in the submarine infested waters was ok. Although Ramanathan later demands a seat in Colombo South without contesting for it like everyone else.

        I think the guy in usual Tamil Vellala fashion wanted Colombo South served on a plate. He then leaves the All Ceylon Congress demanding Tamil Eeelm. This is known as the “Cardnial Sin” in your own circles. It was this Tamil who turns everything communal and display narrow mindedness. Then there is a long line of other just like him.

        I challenge you to develop some “independent thought” if that is ever possible born to this culture of yours.

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          Dear Vibushana,

          Thank you.

          “I challenge you to develop some “independent thought” if that is ever possible born to this culture of yours.”

          I challenge you to develop an “independent thought” free from MAHAVAMSA mentality.

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          Vibhushana

          “I challenge you to develop some “independent thought” if that is ever possible born to this culture of yours.”

          I challenge both of you to develop some “independent thought” if that is ever possible were being born to Tamil/Sinhala cultures of yours.

          First, you learn to write truth, independent thoughts will follow later on.

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        Dear Anpu,

        Re “The Sinhala Muslim riots take place in the year 1915”

        1915 was a Religious Riot. It was not an Ethnic Riot and was instigated by the Jeering and Stoning of the Kandy Esala Pageant by Coastal Muslims of India. In 1912 the annual pageant was cancelled due to the Coastal Muslims and was not held until 1915.

        The Esala Perahera starts on the 8th day of the waxing moon of Esala and continues for 15 days. The ceremonies are held for fourteen days within the premises of the Devale. The final and culminating 15th day perahera concludes with a ritual called the ‘diyakepuma’ (water-cutting) ceremony.

        The final day perahera from immemorial times had taken a route from the Devale to a place called Porutota on the Mahaveli Ganga for the ritual of water-cutting along a road known as the Ambagamuwa Road. The perahera had to pass a number of places of worship belonging to other faiths – some Christian churches, Hindu temples, and some mosques.

        Among these there was one mosque built not long ago (in the 1890’s) by the Coast Moors. Until 1912 the perahera had proceeded along its traditional route with the usual music unchallenged by anyone. That year, the Coast Moors threatened to riot if the perahera passed within 100 yards (metres) of their mosque. The Government Agent, presumably on the instructions of the police , subjected the issue of a license for the perahera to the fulfillment of the demand of the Muslims.

        The Basnayake Nilame of the Devale refused to abide by this unacceptable condition, and cancelled the perahera for that year.

        Instead, on legal advice, he instituted action against the Attorney General on 30th September 1913. The trial of the case came before the District Court of Kandy on 20th March 1914 before Dr (later Sir) Paul E. Pieris, Acting District Judge of Kandy. The learned judge delivered his judgement on 4th June 1914, declaring the plaintiff ‘entitled to the privilege set out in the second paragraph of his complaint’ (viz. “the right and privilege of marching and to and from and through all the streets of the town of Gampola including that portion of Ambagamuwa street……. With elephants to the accompaniment of tom-tom drums and other musical instruments”).

        Although this was an extremely fair judgement by all accounts the British authorities (not ready to accept it for the obvious reason that it was damaging to their prestige as the representatives of the glorious Empire on which the sun never set) appealed to the Supreme Court, which duly dismissed the plaintiff’s action. But the Basnayake Nilame and his supporters appealed to the highest tribunal of the British Empire, the Privy Council, and retained the eminent Sir John Simon to argue the appeal. There were signs that justice in this case was going to be asserted at last.

        The 1915 riots broke out in this time of indecision. On 28th May that year, the Vesak Fullmoon Poya Day, the traditional Esala Perahera of the Walahagoda temple was held. The perahera followed its usual route along the Ambagamuwa road. But the Police prevented the procession from passing the disputed place. The Moors, encouraged by what they assumed to be support of the Police for their cause started jeering at the Buddhists marching in the procession and threw stones at them from the steps of the mosque. Retaliation was swift and inevitable.

        Rioting between Buddhists and Muslims spread to other parts of the island. As usual in such situations criminal elements took to looting and arson; shops of Moor traders were attacked and goods stolen; mosques were set on fire. The Governor Sir Robert Chalmers declared martial law. By the time order was restored and martial law withdrawn three months after the rioting had started 63 people had been killed by the Military and the Police. Ad hoc commissions dispensed summary justice.

        The needless severity with which the British authorities dealt with the situation was partly due to the fact that Britain was at war with Germany, a powerful and pitiless enemy. The Turkish Empire made common cause with the Germans against the British. The British Government did not want to displease the Muslims, especially the many millions of them in India, for fear that this might lead to an uprising among them in favour of their co-religionists of the Turkish Empire.

        Although the hearing of the appeal of the Gampola Perahera Case before Privy Council began promisingly for the aggrieved Devale authorities, it did not go on until a final decision was delivered because the new Governor of Ceylon Sir John Anderson was trying to settle the dispute after 1915 riots by adopting a more conciliatory attitude towards the Esala Perahera.

        He gave binding orders that the Perahera was not to be interfered with any restrictions. When the Coast Moors found that the Government was no longer behind them they gave up their extremist demands.

        In 1917 the Governor himself attended the Perahera as the Sinhalese kings of yore had done.

        (http://www.island.lk/index.php?page_cat=article-details&page=article-details&code_title=7150)

        Let the Truth Prevail

        Kind Regards,
        OTC

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          Sir learned OTC:

          Religious prejudice is coming under the all minority prejudices. There is no exemption that if it is about Sinhalese Mahavamsa you can go for riot otherwise no. You are citing all blah blah. Nothing is exonerating Sinhalese Buddhist extremism that is created by modern Manama the Anakarika Tharmapala.

          Only one thing I can keep repeating. None of these are going to come up to the court of International Investigation. What all your best doing is giving the Royal Family a false hope of escaping from an inquiry and making them to cave in to that more. Neither you nor I know when or who is going to release the next devastating photo or Video like the one release of Issaiperiya.

          My advice to you is tell the Royal Family not to waste time and go for the ICC and see if there they can submit any defense there. Your propaganda lies are making Tamils to harden their mind of having the perpetrators punished by international laws.

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            Dear Mallaiyuran,

            You are Dumber than I thought.

            Religious Riots and Communal riots are entirely different things.

            The first is about Religion and has nothing to do with the race you belong to.

            The second is about Race and has nothing to do with Religion. As an example just look at the various religions that separatist Tamils belong to. Here race is the common denominator not religion.

            “Nothing is exonerating Sinhalese Buddhist extremism that is created by modern Manama the Anakarika Tharmapala”

            Is that so?

            Now please put your intelligence to work and explain the following

            There were Riots in Lanka in 1871, 1923, 1929 and 1931. ALL of them were Tamil Tamil Riots. No other ethnicity was involved. The Mahavamsa existed, the Sinhalese and Buddhists existed but there were no Ethnic clashes for centuries only Tamil Tamil Riots!

            If you want to discuss Anagarika Dharmapala you need to discuss Arumka Navalar.

            Please explain why he left his teaching post when the Principal Mr Percival admitted a Low Cast Tamil to his missionary school?

            Why did he rejected ALL low cast Tamils to the Hindu Schools he opened?

            During a time of want in the North, why did he help ONLY the High Cast Tamils?

            You have little knowledge of history and that too filters out the ignominious acts of Tamil Racists.

            I have posted a reply here to Native Veddha. Please read it and make a Factual and Logical rebuttal.

            Hopefully you can cut through your racism and be rational and objective for once.

            https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/chandrika-inclusive-whom-have-we-tamils-spared/comment-page-2/#comment-1289645

            Kind Regards,
            OTC

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          thank for the interesting information – which all of us should actually know – but somehow propaganda always covers real truth-especially tamil propaganda

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        Dear All and Anpu,

        Anpu says “All Ceylon Educated Members seat. He was elected. The other contesting candidate was a member of the Sinhala community”

        What he says is true but this is what he does not say

        1. Only 2400 people were eligible to Vote due to Wealth, Gender (only males allowed) and English proficiency rules.

        2. About 1400 of them were Tamil.

        Kind Regards,
        OTC

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          What is you point?

          Are you trying to say that if there were enough Sinhalese there was no why a Tamil could have been allowed to have that position?

          Whites did not give free education to Tamils to have that 1400 educated peoples number. Please remember that.

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            Dear Mallaiyuran,

            Re “What is you point?”

            What a DUMB question. Though you would not have got the “point” the intelligent reader would have got it. I am not trying to educate the dumb racists but racist who are misguided and the impartial who are uninformed.

            Re “Are you trying to say that if there were enough Sinhalese there was no why a Tamil could have been allowed to have that position?”

            Depends on how the Sinhalese would vote isn’t it? Hence the answer is NO unless that Tamil can win the respect of the Sinhalese, like Kadiragama did. That is simple logic but it escaped what little intellect that you posses.

            But when such right thinking Tamils emerge the Racist Tamils slander them. Did you write anything slandering Kathir?

            “Whites did not give free education to Tamils to have that 1400 educated peoples number.

            How much did you pay the missionary schools in Jaffna when they commenced?

            Kind Regards,
            OTC

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      Imbecile,

      “Tamils first destroy their own so called “moderate” leadership however tiny.”

      This is a gem that you come out with! After 60 years the Sinhala have ended up with the MR clan! What gives you the right to talk about Tamil leadership when you have cut-throats replaced the moderate Sinhala leadership?

      “That basically means you do what Mahinda Rajapaske tells you to do. If not you lose even what you have now. “

      Here is another gem! “I am usually correct with my observations.” You have been exposed left, write and centre on these forums. You run away with your tail between your legs then who is going to entertain your observations?

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      May be, for 1958 Karma, you had JVP from 1971 to 1989. Still it did not go away. Wimal is still there, well and OK. For cheating with Banda- Chelva, Dudley Chelva packs you guys got the King family. Now if you know to remove him, bless you with everything! Otherwise stay stuck with the King Kong. Your observations are correct only when it is applied to others, it seems.

      Ratwatta and Chandrika fought with LTTE for years. Chandirka came to power to abolish Executive Presidency. At end, she wanted offer LTTE the Federal State. Did she know there did 13th amendment exist? Then was wrong she thought to bring in a Federal State?

      Are you trying say Chandrika was acting with more good faith than Dudley when he signed the pact? How did Dudley fail to implement the pact? So, how the Federal state going to save the Tamils when PR election system and Executive President were still there, that Chandrika did not want to abolish?

      LTTE’s minimum clause was self-determination. If the Ruling party fails to implement the pact they go alone. That was it. When Chandrika hired Kathirkamar to disturb the equation in foreign counties and hired Neelan to disturb the equation on the proposed constitution structure, where the EP was there, they suspected that Chandrika was interested in disturbing the equation only, but did not have honesty. As an armed movement, they talked with her with weapon, as she did not like to talk to them direct.

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    Dear writer!
    You have written what should be written against the madness of the TGTE.

    She once said on TV (When she was the President) that Wijaya Kumarathunga and herself risked their lives in their attempts to save some Tamils during the Black July period. When Tamils were being killed by thugs of the UNP only a very few ventured to save Tamils lives because good Samaritans would have been killed by thugs. So What Chandrika , a woman,did was a brave act thousands of good men were scared to do.
    Another thing she did while she was the President was conducting many workshops for SLFP MPs, Ministers on the importance of devolving power to the Tamils. Her objective was to remove racism from SLFP mindset.

    The LTTE killed or harmed those who were for power sharing but did not harm any Sinhala racist.

    Hence the Tamils should do their best to make Chandrika the next President because under her rule the Tamils will be able to live without fear.

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      It is hard to live with racial bount male dominated society if you are non-racial minded. If you are a woman it is even more difficult. Recalling the way this bunch of thugs the way former CJ was mistreated, I feel, I cant even think of how she managed to handle many issues that in today´s context seem to have no answwer.
      I agree with you the fact that CBK really tried to resolve the problem through discussions. There great Kadirgamar was gunned down. Her foreign policies were the best going thrrough the same path of her Mother. To that time, even if people thought that the Srilanken airline was sold out to Emirates, that lease brought billions of profits. To that time, they have a good team to run the srilanken airlines, today, thousand or more fold losses.

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    What TGTE is trying to do is to derail any settlement that will be provided to the minorities in Sri Lanka which do not include TGTE. Who needs TGTE? No one, we do not want Sri Lanka to be divided, what we all need is equal rights to every citizen of the country.

    By including Chandrika, TGTE is trying to push Chandrika from offering anything to the minorities in case she comes forward as Presidential candidate and wins the election.

    IF TGTE is a honest unbiased group then they should have included LTTE, and other terrorist organizations also in the list. Yes LTTE is a terrorist organization as they attacked innocent civilians. Any group or individual attacks innocent civilians is a terrorist.

    TGTE is the biggest stumbling block we have in getting equal rights for the minorities. Tamils are not the only minorities in Sri Lanka.

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    Yes, the Tamils are yet to come to terms with their enormous reactive racism – that continues to blind them. If not for this blindness they would not have incurred the enormous life loss with the support of the entire world which wanted to see the end of ultra racists – VP and Gang.

    Pot should not call the Kettle Black.

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    I agree with the author wholeheartedly. Chandrika is far better than Mahinda Rajapakse. The TGTE is a laughing stock.

    Meanwhile, Mahinda will be at Modi’s swearing in ceremony next week – making the TGTE and the GTF all the more irrelevant.

    Its all so sad that we Tamils lack savvy nuanced leadership.

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      We Tamils killed them all from Amirthalingam to Kadirgamar.

      Never forget LTTE is the SOLE representative of Tamils!

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      “The TGTE is a laughing stock.eanwhile, Mahinda will be at Modi’s swearing in ceremony next week – making the TGTE and the GTF all the more irrelevant. “

      You may want to tell that to King so he will not waste his time to list them as a Terrorist Organisation.

      You think “Its all so sad that we Tamils lack savvy nuanced leadership” and at the same time “…..Chandrika is far better than Mahinda Rajapakse.”

      Dear Sri Lankan Tamil : belive me, TGTE is really a good one. No comparison with those two! Period!

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    So what Mr Sivathasan is telling is that they should spare the ones that could be used to unseat Mahinda and include all others? That is a very dishonest suggestion because if war crimes really happened all those who led the war effort and those who commanded the forces should be charged for war crimes. Do we need any other proof that for some, the war crimes charges are just a passage to unseat the present government and win a Tamil only self governing authority?

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    Pro: 1) wrong to put Chandrika at this time

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    Pro:1)Yes, agree with the author (wrong timing), timing does matter in life.
    2) There are other names to add, (not that Tamil side is out of names) 3)why focus on others when we have rajapakese’s.

    Cons: 1) Author attacking Tamils as a group in which he enjoys the benefit is a conflict of interest 2)Author, former so called, “adviser” status excludes him to write this article(author lives in US: conflict of interest is a criteria to authenticate the subjects in these countries) 3)”When the Tamil polity is ready for fruitful talks with India let not our side spoil the atmosphere by antagonizing our likely benefactor.” Fruitful like meaning full or eating fruits at table and talking.India with all the might, thus far unable to implement 13th amendment (India’s baby)and author still at the microphone. Spoil the atmosphere? Chandrika is not in power, thus author missing some bus stops here.4) CV issue is confusing and not relevant on this subject matter, again further down grades Tamils as community who attacks their own, we sinhaleese do it too, so why leave us out again here!

    neutral: keep writing, it is getting funnier!

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    What is TGTE ? never heard of them .

    cheers

    Abhaya

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      Abhya – “WHAT is TGTE?never heard of THEM”

      so you have heard of them.

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      Do some research and get back to the forum. Then u could better get it.
      Else, ask your thuggish Raja buddies to provide you with regular info about all these to the very same manner they feed Jaliya wickramsooriya ( hiring interpreter companies to have written Jaliya´s speeches). Latter were not the case in previous govt. They could save millions if not billions through that. And that was the reason why the country was not made that debted as it is the case for the nation today.

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    Well, the Jaffna Tamil is a breed apart from the rest of the Tamils ie
    the Colombo Tamil, Eastern Province Tamil or the Hill country Tamil!
    They were unbending in their attitude of superiority towards the non-
    Jaffna Tamils, and the Sinhalese,Muslims and even the Burghers! For
    the Jaffnese the land beyond the Palk Strait was their own land – a
    land to which others who were non-Jaffnese were very suspiciously
    welcomed or not welcomed at all!
    A change comes over the Jaffna man when he is returning home to Jaffna by train which becomes evident the moment the train crosses the Palk Strait bridge -attirewise & attitude-wise!! Indeed the better Jaffna man is the Jaffna man who earned a living outside Jaffna & were themselves critical the entrenched Jaffna man!
    Intercommunal problems arises in Countries or within communities when
    people or communities refuse to blend or live amongst the other communities by living an isolated life from the rest of the communities.Credit goes to Lee Kwan Yu, the first PM of Singapore, who
    refused any single community in Singapore to live amongst their own community.No single area or flat was allotted to any single community
    which only led to harmony amongst all communities in Singapore,with no chance of a LTTE type bug slithering into their midst!
    Perhaps this is what should have happened in Sri Lanka which perhaps
    is what is happening now – forcible occupation of the North part of
    Sri Lanka a k a Jaffna!! And,maybe,after some generations to come,the
    Sinhalese man and the Jaffna Tamil man will get to know each other and
    even respect each other and even think alike.
    The sum total of the problems in Sri Lanka, indeed a GEM of a land,a land on the whole with good & kind hearted people regardless of who you are, is that ,tragically, they fell victims caused by suspicion,isolation and unbending pride, forgetting that they were ALL Sri Lankans FIRST and anybody else after this fact. This attitude
    alone will heal the wounds!!!
    AVIS

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      Arul Sivapalan

      “A change comes over the Jaffna man when he is returning home to Jaffna by train which becomes evident the moment the train crosses the Palk Strait bridge -attirewise & attitude-wise!!”

      There is no bridge for trains to cross Palk Strait. Even if there is one by crossing it the Jaffna man would end up in Dhanushkodi, Rameswaram, at Southern tip of Tamilnadu.

      The only available mode of transport between Dhanushkodi and Jaffna is the all time favourite, tried and tested Kallathonies. Your ancestors used Kallthonies for over 2,500 years.

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    Who made CBK One eyed ?

    Tamils ?

    Now they want from CBK.

    what a joke.

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      Don’t be absurd! It was not TAMILS who targeted Chandrika.

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      Jim,

      “Who made CBK One eyed ?”

      It was LTTE and not Tamils! Have you got that?

      Who made the Tamils stateless and unwanted? The Sinhala like you!

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        Burning_Issue

        “The Sinhala like you”

        Jim wit is a Sinhala speaking Demela.

        Tamils are their own worse enemies.

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        Dear Burning Issue,

        Agree with your first statement and disagree with your second.

        “Who made the Tamils stateless and unwanted? The Sinhala like you”

        That is Propaganda and is not the Truth.

        If you are referring to the Citizenship Act then both Lanka Tamils and Sinhalese voted for it.

        The Act was about Citizenship and was not discriminatory. The Apex Court of the British Empire the Privy Council ruled that it was legal and Just. Were they fools to do so?

        If it was discriminatory it would have been struck down for infringing section 29 of the Constitution.

        Are you implying that the Highest Court of Britain connived and conspired with the Lankan govt to discriminate against Tamils?

        Kind Regards,
        OTC

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          “The Act was about Citizenship and was not discriminatory. The Apex Court of the British Empire the Privy Council ruled that it was legal and just. Were they fools to do so? “

          If you have a grasp of that verdict, can tell what the Apex Court said in the verdict. They are not fools or not please don’t think we are. If Devanada vote against power devolution, is that Tamils vote? You have written opportunistically different things about G.G. Can you tell what happened to them in subsequent elections after they voted in favor of the Act? OTC please don’t fool you repeatedly.

          They are not fools, that is why Cameron promised at Jaffna that he will press for an International Inquiry on the Royal Family. Like British Apex court, British Prime Minister also not a fool. A good verdict will come out of that.

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            Dear Mallaiyuran,

            Re “If you have a grasp of that verdict, can tell what the Apex Court said in the verdict.”

            The Privy Council decision is available on the internet. You are making a fool of yourself.

            Re “They are not fools…”

            Of course they are not.

            Re “…or not please don’t think we are.”

            I dont have to think about you being a fool, you have proved it before and proving it now.

            Re “If Devanada vote against power devolution, is that Tamils vote?”

            IF he is elected by Tamils then it is a Tamil vote.
            This is why I said that you are proving that you are a fool.

            Re “You have written opportunistically different things about G.G. Can you tell what happened to them in subsequent elections after they voted in favor of the Act?”

            What happened in 1939 was that GGP attacked the Sinhalese with a RACIST HATE SPEECH. The first Tamil/Sinhala riot was the result.

            Therefore GGP IS the Father of Racism in modern Sri Lankan politics. Even if you stand on your head that fact won’t change.

            Re ” British Prime Minister also not a fool.”

            He is a Fool if he cannot see that the UN’s Darusman Panel of experts have been corrupt in CHANGING the ICRC IHL Rule 97 in order to exonerate the LTTE and it’s Financiers from being prosecuted for the War Crime of using a Human Shield.

            He is a fool if he does not investigate the possibility of the LTTE rump living in his country used bribery to get the IHL rule 97 misinterpreted.

            He is also a foll if he does not start the so called investigation by arresting a self confessed War Crime perpetrator and handing her over to the Hague.

            Think about it.

            Kind Regards,
            OTC

            BTW what I write is Factual and is supported by references.

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        “It was LTTE and not Tamils! Have you got that?

        Who made the Tamils stateless and unwanted? The Sinhala like you”

        ———-Oh the irony!

        And BI, the stateless case is a different one. British brought tamils and deliberately brought them into sinhala heartland to change demo. Wiggie’s sinhala nation! what prob you have with that?
        between you werent fighting for some stateless tamils.

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          sach

          “British brought tamils and deliberately brought them into sinhala heartland to change demo.”

          Being bone idle and work shy Sinhalese were reluctant to work in the most arduous of all jobs. British brought in some Kallathonies from South India. The sole purpose of it was no demographic change but recruitment of hard working people. British didn’t give two hoots about Tamils or Sinhalese as long as they were profitable.

          The first batch of Kallathonies to arrive and change demography were from Lala Land.

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            It doesnt matter one is lazy or not it is their heartland. bringing others and settling them is criminal. between what was brits doing in sinhala heart land? why should Sinhala labour themselves for brits to exploit their land? SInhala people for millenias built a civilisation and paddy they didnt need south indian slaves

            Same argument can be said to justify so called sinhala colonizations in north. And your silly and repetitive argument, that ppl from lala land.

            No one came from Lala land , get out of mahavamsa mentality. Between those you call as ppl from lala land taught you how to built a civilization. But that wont matter to you, cos you are not a vadda. You are a racist tamil hiding behind a vaddha shamelessly

            next time before you hit the reply button, check your argument. Idiot!

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              sach the stupid

              “next time before you hit the reply button, check your argument. Idiot!”

              Now you are calling me names. What a stupid ignorant bigoted racist you are.

              “It doesnt matter one is lazy or not it is their heartland. bringing others and settling them is criminal.”

              It was similar to what your brethren Sinhala speaking Demelas and Tamil speaking Demelas have been doing it for the past 2,500 years, first arriving as illegal asylum seekers and now leaving to seek asylum in other countries which includes whence your slave masters came.

              “Between those you call as ppl from lala land taught you how to built a civilization.”

              You are ignorant stupid thing who has no knowledge or idea of history. I will help you, go look for Siran Upendra Deraniyagala work on prehistory of this island. Read Sudharsan Seneviratnes research papers. I am sure you are so ignorant you never heard of these eminent people.

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                Does Shrian talk about your Lala land? Shiran is a celebrated archeologist. If he has said anything that goes against my line of argument point it.

                Just asking me to read his books shows how pathetically you fail to come up with a proper response.

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                  sach

                  “If he has said anything that goes against my line of argument point it.”

                  You have no line of argument and you never had.

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                    If i had no line of argument others would have avoided my comments like they ignore yours. The only reason you come after me and throw insults is because of your inability to put up a proper counter argument.

                    You accuse sinhala people for mahavamsa mentality. So what mentions Sinhala people as invaders from India? Mahavamsa.

                    But the only argument you have which you repeatedly post “you sinhala go back to your lala land” is because you depend on mahavamsa. Unless for Mahavamsa you have nothing else to say. You are the one dwelling in Mahavamsa mentality.

                    You are a racist idiot who hide in someone else’s ethnic identity. Are you that ashamed to come up with your real one? Loser!

                    I am a sinhalese and i come with my real one.

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            Dear NV,

            The Sinhalese farmed the land as Owners. That Land was stolen by the Brits using Draconian Laws such as the Waste Lands Act.

            1. The British enacted the Crown Land Enforcement Ordinance in 1840 to claim the unoccupied and uncultivated land in the Kandyan kingdom (Farmer 1957:90- 91). As a result of this ordinance, 90% of the land in the Kandyan highlands was designated as land belonging to the British Crown (Herath et al, 1995:77).

            2. The Waste Land Ordinance Act of 1897 (and the Crown Land Encroachment Ordinance in 1840), annexed more lands as crown lands where villagers could no longer claim them according to the new British imposed rules (Roberts 1979:233, Obeysekara 1967: 98-100).

            The majority of the Sinhalese villages effectively lost the structural prerequisite of land tenure systems (Obeysekara 1967:101).

            3. The ‘Land Settlement Ordinance of 1889’ allowed the colonial authorities to sell these STOLEN lands at will. “Many villagers in the Kandyan area were deprived of their high lands formally used for chena cultivation or grazing the cattle” (Mendis 1951:85).

            The Sinhalese were not prepared to slave on the Land they owned. Their interest was growing food for self sufficiency not Cash crops to enrich a Slave master.

            Sinhala society was an agricultural society which grew their own food. Sinhalese were neither idle nor work shy. This is just racist propaganda. What the Sinhalese created did not fall from the sky.

            Kind Regards
            OTC

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              Dear OTC,

              Sorry for the intrusion into the debate underway. I do not intend to participate. This is just to suggest that you read Robert Knox’s account of the males in the Kandyan a Kingdom. He found them utterly lazy. The Kandyan women were different and worked hard. I have myself seen on the Haputale – Badulla road, how the Kandyan women climbed steep roads and hills with heavy lads of firewood on their heads. They had also learned the art of urinating while standing with the load on their heads, without soiling their clothes- the Redda!

              I think the British brought in the South Indian labour – Tamil and Telungu, because the Sinhala men were not ready for the rigours of clearing jungles, making roads, fighting off snakes and wild animals , nurturing the plantations and harvesting the crop under. Inhuman conditions.

              Dr.RN

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                Dr. Rajasingham Narendran:

                —–
                I think the British brought in the South Indian labour – Tamil and Telungu, because the Sinhala men were not ready for the rigours of clearing jungles, making roads, fighting off snakes and wild animals , nurturing the plantations and harvesting the crop under. Inhuman conditions.
                —–

                1) You are entitled to your view. However, what we believe happened was that upcountry Sinhalese being quite the arrogant/egoistic men they were, were not willing to work under foreigners.

                2) Snake and Malariya invested jungles are found in North/Central plains more than they are found in upcountry. Sinhala men cleared/cultivated and thrived in these lands for centuries. Now if they so lazy how did they managed to do that?

                3) You may judge what Sinhala men are capable of doing by looking at British tea estates. However, we judge what our ancestors were capable of doing by looking at numerous structures and other works of art carved in wood and stone that lay all over the country.

                4) If you and other Tamils here and elsewhere could keep these Tamils are better, hardworking and intelligent than Sinhalese thoughts to yourselves it would help heal the wounds sooner.

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                  Navin,

                  Robert Knox was referring to the Kandyan Sinhalese. I have quoted the specific reference in my reply to OTC, which appears.

                  Knox also refers to Malabaris ( in fact Tamils) that he met in his meanderings in Anuradhapura. This part of his narrative makes interesting reading.

                  Further, the tank-based irrigation system is not unique to ancient Sri Lanka, although the scale may be much bigger. Such systems existed.exist in South India. Further, although visionary Sinhala Kings made possible these reservoir system, there is certainty that they were the handiwork of Sinhalese alone. There was a considerable Tamil presence n the dry zone in days of yore, as attested by Knox.

                  Further, the Sinhalese are more artistic and creative than the Sri Lankan Tamils. There is no doubt about this and I will not contest you on that fact. The Tamils were much more immersed in their mundane life and their religious rituals, they probably had little time for art in its manifold manifestations. The Tamils in India had art in their veins and it manifested in magical ways, in music, sculpture, temple architecture, carving, dancing, etc.

                  The Sri lankan Tamils, whether it be in the north or east, were however skilled farmers, who in a poetical sense made the desert bloom. The Portiguese captain (Oliveira?) who laid seige to the Jaffna Kingdom,has attested to the fact that the Jaffna man could not be starved because the people there were fasting for a total of six months (!) per year and in the rest of the year had plenty of food supplies from the land and sea.

                  CT editor: I am sorry to have also contributed for the major digression from the topic -a subject of immense importance- that has taken place in the comments.

                  Dr.RN

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                  Are you stupid to give excuses for being lazy?

                  One can be lazy in ones own country!

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                Dear RN,

                I would disagree with your interpretation as Knox was not referring to the general populace when he said

                “Those that are lazy and loath to Plow, or that are Poor and want Corn to sow, the Custom is, to let out their ground to others to Till at Ande, that is at halves; but fees and accustomable dues taken, out by the Husbandman that tills it, the Owner of the Land receives not much above a third part”

                It is a reference to the custom of Ande. The Landed either tilled the land using their own labour or gave it out to the farmer who had to pay back the rent from a part of the harvest. The “Lazy” refers to the Landed (the keyword being “those”). If they were lazy the kingdom would have starved and the Kandyan Kingdom overpowered with ease. But that was not the case.

                The Land owner could hire and fire the farmer after each harvesting cycle. Others who could not get seed paddy (Knox says corn) gave the land on Ande. This is the practice that was the target of the Paddy Lands Act.

                During the period before Kandy went under foreign domination the work was clearly demarcated between the sexes. The women brought up the children and looked after the needs of the household such as gathering firewood and water and helped in weeding and gathering the harvest. The men were involved in farming, building and protecting.

                Even 150 years later the affects of the Waste Lands Act and related Laws was as follows.

                “According to the 1946 census on population in the agricultural sector of the island, 40% of the agricultural peasant families found in the former Kandyan Kingdom were landless while there were 26% landless agricultural families recorded in the wet zone” (Herath 1995: 79).

                In that period the forest was protected. It was the King’s property. No one could even cut a tree.

                It is a natural human reaction to despise those who steal your property. The Brits did just that. The Kandyans would not slave for the Brits on the very farmlands that they owned.

                I don’t think any self respecting person dispossessed and evicted from his own house would take up an offer to be a paid servant in the same house working for a pittance for the new master.

                Kind Regards,
                OTC

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                  Dear OTC

                  “For the Chingulays are naturally, a people given to sloth and laziness; if they can but any ways live, they abhor to work; only what their necessities force them to, they do, that is to get food and raiment. Yet in this I must little vindicate them. For what indeed should they do with more food and raiment, seeing as their estates encrease, so do their taxes also?”

                  Dr.RN

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                    OTC,

                    The above is a direct quote from Robert Knox’s book. I am sorry I missed mentioning this in my comment.

                    Dr.RN

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                    RN,

                    So what are you going to prove Rajasingham? Are you saying Brits were right in invading Sinhala lands and bringing tamils in because Sinhalese were lazy?

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                    Dear Dr RN,

                    Re “Further, the tank-based irrigation system is not unique to ancient Sri Lanka, although the scale may be much bigger”

                    Of course Tank based irrigation existed outside Sri Lanka but Sri Lanka’s irrigation system is UNIQUE at that point of time in the ancient world for the following reasons.

                    The taller the Tank the higher the water pressure at the bottom.
                    Hence unless you could tame that pressure, building Tall Dams was useless because though you could collect more water it could not be taken out for use.

                    The Sinhalese solved this problem when they invented the Valve Tower.

                    “Parker (1907) stated that “since about the middle of last century, open wells, called ‘valve-towers’ when they stand clear of the embankment and ‘valve-pits’ when they are in it, have been built at numerous reservoirs in Europe. Their duty is to hold the valves, and the lifting-gear for working them, by means of which the outward flow of the water is regulated or totally stopped”. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2212682113000322

                    “Such also was the function of the valve-pit of the ancient Sri Lankan engineers; they were the first inventors of the valve-pit, more than 2100 years ago” (ibid)
                    The Sinhala name for the valve pit is “Bisokotuwa”.

                    Re “Such systems existed.exist in South India”

                    Since the “Bisokotuwa” was absent from any tank system found in South India, they were Radically different to the Sri Lankan system.

                    Re “Further, although visionary Sinhala Kings made possible these reservoir system, there is certainty that they were the handiwork of Sinhalese alone. There was a considerable Tamil presence n the dry zone in days of yore, as attested by Knox. “

                    The Sinhala irrigation systems date back to 300 – 200 BC
                    It’s development peaked during King Parakramabahu , 1153–1186 CE
                    Knox arrived in Lanka on 19 November 1659 AD

                    Hence his knowledge of Lanka cannot be used as authoritative for 300 BC to 1659 AD

                    “The earliest medium-scale irrigation reservoir (surface area of 107 ha) that can be identified with certainty, which was built in 300 BC, and remains operational, is the Basavakkulama tank in the
                    World Heritage city of Anuradhapura.

                    Thereafter, about 30,000 tanks have been built in a land area of about 40,000 km2 in the dry zone ( Mendis, 2003; Marambe et al., 2012). Some of them have been in operation continuously for more than 2000 years ( Brohier, 1935). Approximately 7620 small tanks with an irrigated area of 0–80 ha are operational at present ( Panabokke et al., 2002). This indicates that the TCSs of Sri Lanka evolved over two millennia. Therefore, they are now naturalized and bound to the dry zone landscape in Sri Lanka. As well as providing irrigation water, TCSs have impacted the microclimate by creating cooler habitats, enhanced the biodiversity and agrobiodiversity, and paved the way for a unique decentralized social system in Sri Lanka where farmers have held the highest social rank ( Marambe et al., 2012). It is suggested that 3rd to 7th century and 12th century have been the period where ancient irrigation technology was peaked in the country ( Parker, 1907).” (ibid)

                    The interconnection of the Tanks with an intricate system of canals is another distinguishing character.

                    The Yoda Ela (canal) is 54 miles long, has only one embankment, which meant that it had to be on a contour line and a gradient of 6” – 12” per mile for the entire length.

                    “It is possible, that in no other part of the world are there to be found within the same space, the remains of so many works of irrigation, which are, at the same time, of such great antiquity, and of such vast magnitude as Ceylon. Probably no other country can exhibit works so numerous, and at the same time so ancient and extensive, within the same limited area, as this Island” Sir Henry Ward, Governor of Ceylon (wiki)

                    Kind Regards,
                    OTC

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                Dr. Rajasingham Narendran

                “I have myself seen on the Haputale – Badulla road, how the Kandyan women climbed steep roads and hills with heavy lads of firewood on their heads.”

                If I could add to what you have noted,

                poverty is so rampant many woman are forced to leave their homes and loved ones and spend years without any break working for households in medieval middle east kingdoms while the goons are allowed to idle away their time back in their home town. The women earn pittance for work performed 24/7/52 if lucky return avoiding nails being inserted in their body.

                Men being morons they enjoy their life drinking away the money they never earned.

                Here are some facts:

                FACT
                More than 1.7 million Sri Lankans now work abroad, and
                nearly 600,000 are housemaids… In Saudi Arabia, the most
                common destination, they call Sri Lanka “the country of
                housemaids.”

                FACT
                Fifteen to 20 percent of the 120,000 (approx) Sri
                Lankan women who leave each year for the Gulf
                return prematurely, face abuse, nonpayment of
                salary, or get drawn into illicit human trafficking
                schemes or prostitution.

                Hundreds of housemaids have become pregnant,
                often after rapes, producing children who, until Sri
                Lanka’s Constitution was recently amended, were
                Stateless because their fathers were foreigners

                LABOR MARKET FOR
                SRI LANKAN MAIDS

                Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, Lebanon, U.A.E. and
                Jordan were the major labor receiving countries
                that have captured over 86% of the Sri Lankan
                foreign workers.

                Their work contracts do not fall under labor laws
                but under the jurisdiction of immigration
                authorities.

                FOREIGN EXCHANGE
                EARNINGS
                Foreign exchange earnings show that these employees
                earned Rs. 382,801 Million in 2009 which was 47.03% of total
                foreign exchange earnings of Sri Lanka. A very large source
                of income for the Government of Sri Lanka.
                According to Reuters Sri Lanka received $2.5 billion from
                workers’ remittances in 2008 and $3.4 billion in 2009.

                http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1011&context=humtraffconf3

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                So the laziness of the sinhalese give Brits the right to steal their land, exploit it, bring in foreign people to change demo?

                Then MR has the right to change demography in Jaffna because they harm national intergrity and soverignity?

                The undercurrent racism of the tamils and the brother who funded terrorism is pathetic!

                between didnt you read Robert Knox came to island in trinco and was taken to meet the king in Kandy?

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            so this is how propaganda is born – steal peoples land and make them landless and then bring indentured labour from another country (treat them like slaves) and then call the poor robbed people lazy ? only the British! and here after 200 yrs two foolish ethinic groups go on destroying their own country- how the british must be laughing

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      If Tamils LOVE someone, they KILL them.

      Then they go to hell (Tamil Elam).

      Don’t you get it?

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    Today Sri Lanka is blessed with one of the greatest leaders since independence. Look at his Government, it is made up of all communities, the Sinhalese, Tamils, Indian Tamils and Muslims. Look at the development he has initiated. The North and East which were totally destroyed are today so developed they are not second to any. I don’t think Sri Lanka in the near future would get another nationalist president who treats all alike.
    Of course this truth will be bitter to racist elements and I wont be surprised if they react with the usual aggression.

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      Raja

      “Look at his Government, it is made up of all communities, the Sinhalese, Tamils, Indian Tamils and Muslims.”

      Could you name all those members of minority communities who have ministerial jobs and their portfolios.

      “The North and East which were totally destroyed are today so developed they are not second to any.”

      There was not much development before the war had started in the North East to be destroyed. Whatever development the North East had it was due to sheer hard work of the individuals.

      Thamby Rajah

      You need to have your reality checked.

      “Of course this truth will be bitter to racist elements and I wont be surprised if they react with the usual aggression.”

      Of course truth will hurt racists. How come it didn’t hurt the ruling junta?

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    Mr. Sivathasan:

    Who can deny that the fate of this nation as it is now was sealed the day CBK dismissed the govt of RW. She had even admitted as much publicly. The all too familiar of the brutal murder of Krishanthi Kumaraswamy. What makes this more gory and gruesome is the subsequent murder of her mother, brother and a family friend. It is after the sustained international pressure that CBK relented to investigate. And it didn’t stop there. The Chemmani mass murders surfaced and this, too, happened during her time.

    Her recalcitrant attitude during and after the aftermath of the tsunami cheesed off Bill Clinton who refused to visit SL and meet her.

    It will be fair if you say that the LTTE ought to be cited, too, but trying to absolve her and potraying her as an “angel” would not stick. What she was as a person before she became a president and how she behaved after becoming one bear serious disparities that one may loathe as “power corrupts”. It is noteworthy that your “angel” did not even blink a second to make a pact with the devil (JVP), so to speak, to dump RW as long it was politically expedient to her. Just a thought – this is the same lady who promised to abolish the presidential office during her tenure but?? Just a thought.

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      I am inclined to agree with most of what you have said.

      Chandrika was a different person when she was in the UK following the death of her husband .She very we’ll knew that it was the JVP that was responsible for her husband’s death.
      But later on when she decided to induct the JVP on to her side by offering amenesty to Somawansa Amarasinghe who was in exile in UK despite the opposition of even her children nor she did bother or care about her late husband’s fair political positioning or democratic principles. When the opportunity came she crossed over from the party that her late husband had founded and had no hesitation in joining up with her mother in her bid for power in 1994 to first become PM and then take the next step into higher office as President while promising to abolish that post.

      Admitedly it was due to the influence of Lakshman Kadirgarmar and a Neelan Thiruchelvam that she brought in a set of constitutional proposals in 1995 to deal with the Tamil ethnic question with a view to solve the problem because she was overtly a non racist, but she did not have the firmness or sincerity to deal with the opposition from the UNP,the yellow robed brigade and the JVP. Her problem was her lack of capacity to face up to facts and her propensity to trust the bad advisors she had a knack to tolerate and rely on.
      Under the circumstances currently prevailing in the country, as there are no other alternatives, she is the best choice available to unseat the present incumbent from his hold on power.

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      Jansee,

      I agree.

      I cant understand why Sivathasan fails to see what most others see.

      CBK has a lot to answer for. She is no angel.

      TGTE are not wrong in including her name among the dirty dozen.

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      jansee ,

      Pl answer me if you can , who do you prefer to see ruling the country for the next 6 years ? is it MR or CBK ? if your answer is neither , please state your preferred candidate !

      It’s a well known fact that CBK was corrupt to the core and pretty much useless in every aspect of her governance style , but no one can accuse CBK being a “singhala Buddhist racist ” like the current megalomaniac , CBK had tried her best to resolved the ethnic issue within the legal frame work , which she failed miserably on numerous occasions i.e ISGA proposals ,unofficial 10 year lease offering of NE for praba , Sudu Nelum movement , PTOMS etc to name a few .on the contrary Prabakaran wanted none of that , instead he was after the whole pound of flesh ,wasn’t he ? after all is it fair to put the 100% blame on singhala government ?

      with the latest TGTE action ,who is getting the real benefit ? on one aspect MR led clan would feel bit better after seeing CBK name in the list along with them and the other they are discouraging any meaningful reconciliation within the sinhala and tamil people .

      it’s still a mystery as to why diaspora led Prabakaran helped MR in 2005 presidential election ? hadn’t they helped MR in 2005 , there wont be a MR to deal with , in the first place , is it fair to put the 100% blame again on every one else, but them ?

      PS: CBK is not an angel , she has committed many a crimes on both Sinhalese and Tamil people .

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    Reasons for including CBK:
    CBK dismissed Ranil government at a very crucial time,
    Blocked all attempts by Ranil to bring interim government in NE,
    Imposed economic embargo in tamil areas strarving many,
    started a shadow war against ltte during peace time,
    bought this monster Rajapakse to power,
    and let’s not forget Krishanthi and countless others.

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    Jansee you are absolutely correct.
    Sivathasan Aiya, please tell me how many hundreds of bombs were dropped in the North during Madam Chandrika’s period ?

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      Siththu!
      Do you expect Chandrika who was elected by Sinhalese Tamils and Muslims, to close her eyes and do nothing when the armed forces under her were attacked by the LTTE? The LTTE fought to carve out a part for them while Chandrika’s job was first and foremost to safeguard the territorial integrity of the country.When you are attacked you too got to counter attack.

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    Mr Sivathasan is correct. The TGTE has made a big boo boo in calling CBK a war criminal. She is one of the few prominent moderate voices in Sri Lanka now who could help the Tamils by dethroning the despicable racist dictator Rajapaksa. The TGTE should apologise and remove her name from the list.

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      In worst case scenario, Rajapakshes will kill CBK to stay in power. As it was the case with Baratha murder, key accused of any killings would be protected by Rajapakshes as they protest all other poisouns snakes (KP, Karuna, Douglas etc).

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    Never forget LTTE is the SOLE representative of Tamils!

    If any Tamil disagrees with this, he is NOT a Tamil.

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    Tamils did to MODI what they did to CBK.

    ONLY a Tamil can represent Tamills.

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    Here is some etymology for you.

    The word Tamil comes from TAME + ILL.

    It means Tamils are ILL TAMED people. A lot needs to be done to TAME Tamils.

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    Who is S. Sivathasan????

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    I don’t have all the facts about the decision to include CBK in the list. TGTE is like a NGO campaigning for Tamil Self Determination. Their word is not ‘gospel truth’. Any allegation has to be proven in the courts of law and I am sure they have solid evidence against those who were named. I don’t understand why all these fretting about until it comes before the legitimate authorities in the war crime issues. There is one thing I know for certain. It was during CBK time the brutal massacres of civilians took place in Batticaloa, in the Eastern University and the other surrounding areas. CBK confirmed the round-up in the parliament on the third day and declared that all those who were arrested were released on the following day which was totally untrue. I have heard first hand evidence that those arrested disappeared without trace except one who lived to tell the horrendous fate these civilians faced. The relatives are still living in limbo desperate to know the truth. July !983, Colombo(JR)& 1993, Batticaloa(CBK) What is the difference? Only thing 1993 happened away from public eye meaning not in Colombo. As a Tamil I don’t want mercy from Sinhala good Samaritans so that my life is spared from the Sinhala thugs and Hooligans but to sue the perpetrators in the land of my birth without fear and intimidation as an egual. Will Sivadasan read Amnesty Report in 1993 on the disappeared and will ask his good Sinhala friend CBK for an explanation? Yes! I am a Jaffna Tamil and I am unbending in my attitude to know the truth about the massacre of my fellow Batticaloa Tamils who are not well conversant in English language to participate in these forums!

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    Correction

    She did ‘not’ bother….

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    Rajash wrote “None of the Sinhala leaders cared for Tamils. Tamil bashing is route to power for all of them.”
    Evidently Rajash is relatively young and ignorant of the history of the Tamils since Independence.

    The Tamils have never elected a Sinhala person to represent them in the Parliament, so it is wrong to blame them. Since Independence the candidates were the High Class Tamils who were elected. They lived a life of luxury in Colombo 7, they were the English speaking gentlemen who went to Church on Sundays. Played Bridge with a glass of fine whiskey and smoked Havana cigars.They visited the Jaffna only to canvass for the votes once in five years. They travelled in the First Class Sleeping Berths in the “Yal Devi” they wore three piece suits until the train reached Anuradhapura, after that they got into the traditional Vetti and applied religious ashes on their temples and alighted in Jaffna as a real Hindu Tamil. They made the Tamil people look donkeys and treated them like donkeys.
    Dear Rajash, don’t take my word, ask some wise elderly Tamil gentlemen and they will confirm what I wrote.

    Please don’t blame the Sinhala, today all the development in Jaffna is been done by the Sinhala people’s efforts.
    Try and elect some Sinhala Parliamentarians to represent the Tamils in Jaffna and you will learn the truth.
    Hope you all have a very good future and develop your areas well and live happily.

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      I agree that from the NE the Tamils returned Tamil candidates. In Colombo South where Tamil vote is the majority, not a single Tamil stood for election. However Tamils in Colombo South always preferred returned UNP candidate. But what did JR do? He gave the very electorate that his party used for canvassing to his thugs andgo and beat up the Tamils in 1983.

      Whu did SWRD bring Swabash act because he want to bash the Tamils and win the election

      What did JR say in the famous Daily Telegraph Interview – if I starve the Tamils the Sinhala people will be happy or words to that effect.

      MR with all his majority and executive presidency and an armed force which can quell any riots, is not willing to implement LLRC, 13a etc etc. He knows that UNP, and JVP and BBS, JHU etc etc will go about Tamil bashing saying to the Sinhala south that MR is giving away everything to the Tamils.

      Rest of your post about Havana Cigar etc etc is trivialising the issue.

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        JR is a bad man and a bad politician. There is no doubt in that. It was not only the Tamils who had to bear JR violence but Sinhalese as well.
        The swabhasha act was a requirement at that time. Many believe it was brought to remove tamil language. There was an underlining Sinhala racism. But overall many reasons led to Banda’s policy. The real requirement was to free the Sinhala language professionals like teachers who were discriminated at in an English language system. It was a stupid move and was disastrous for the country.
        At the same time it must be said, Tamil was allowed to function as the language of the North and east. So that is not what you’re thinking. Still 56 policy is stupid. They should have made both Sinhala and Tamil official languages with equal parity, and of course keeping English as the link language and language of administration.

        I have heard many saying JR said that. But can anyone give me any video or link to see for myself.
        Of course MR can suppress any riot. And no riot has come up against tamils. For your infor 13 A is implemented. That is why wiggie is the CM in north. Didn’t you know that? Not only is that NPC a tool at the hands of anti Lankan elements.
        When MR went for elections in NPC, Ranil publicly said he will support NPC elections, JVP didn’t make any voice. The south was not bothered about 13 A. the reality either you cant grasp or unwilling to grasp!

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      EN Gland
      You probably was born after the time when the UNP & SLFP were founded or you have not taken the trouble to know the history that when they were founded theTamils were also associated.

      You say Tamils should elect Sinhalese Parliamentarians. Don’t you know recently the TNA nominated a Sinhalese called was it Piyasena or was it Piyasoma in the East .
      The Tamils voted for him and he was elected to parliament. What did he do thereafter? Do you not know to which side he has now defected to?
      That is typical Sinhala gratefulness,like what your erstwhile leader JRJ used to say In boxing parlance “look in the eye of your opponent and hit on his stomach”.

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      E N Gland “..today all the development in Jaffna is been done by the Sinhala people’s efforts”

      I am sorry mate frst what development in Jaffana? Ok there are roads and railway built with Chinese money and Indian money. Not by the Sinhala people.

      So why are they building roads and railways? It’s not for the Tamils to travel in yarldevi or drive in their uxury cars to colombo to play Bridge in Colmbo and drink whisky or to play rugby with Namal or to play cricket at SSC.

      Tamils in Jaffana cant even afford a bicycle.The Tamils in Jaffna are living on remittance from their kith and kin overseas for their day to day existence. The Govt now says the remittance from the Diaspora “toilelt cleners” as you Sinhala people love to degrade them, is to revive the LTTE. Now the poor Tamils are afraid to receive funds from their kith and kin overseas. It’s ok for the Sinhala maids and and Sinhala Toilet cleaners in Middle east and NZ to remitt money for thier kith and kin.

      So my point is these infrastructure development is not for the benefit of the tamils but fo the logistics of the army and for the logistics of forced settlement of the Sinhalease.

      The houses built by the Indian Govt are handed over to the army. There are few Houses given to tamils as a show case to fool the IC and UN and UNHCR and Banki Moon

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        “I am sorry mate frst what development in Jaffana? Ok there are roads and railway built with Chinese money and Indian money. Not by the Sinhala people. “

        The money loaned by India and china need to be repaid. You don’t repay them. It is the toilet cleaners in mid east who repay the loan to build Jaffna. If building roads, bridges, hospitals are not development what is that? As a person living out of SL you might not consider them highly. For a person who lived their lives amidst a war funded by you.

        “So why are they building roads and railways? It’s not for the Tamils to travel in yarldevi or drive in their uxury cars to colombo to play Bridge in Colmbo and drink whisky or to play rugby with Namal or to play cricket at SSC. “

        Are you suggesting Tamils don’t use them? One of the lessons learnt by the SL gov during 2001-02 cease fire period was, that people didn’t receive the dividends of peace due to lack of infrastructure. That is why government is building them. Go and ask prawn businessmen and many other agri businesses in Jaffna how they have been benefited from infra.

        “Tamils in Jaffana cant even afford a bicycle.The Tamils in Jaffna are living on remittance from their kith and kin overseas for their day to day existence. The Govt now says the remittance from the Diaspora “toilelt cleners” as you Sinhala people love to degrade them, is to revive the LTTE.”

        I don’t think Tamils are that poor in Jaffna. They were when war was there, now situation is good. Go and see how tamils in Colombo are doing. Are they dirt poor as well? If tamils are at a disadvantaged state why tamils in Colombo are better off while Jaffna is not? So that means it is not due to any ethnicity but because of geographical location. The remittances from diaspora were directed at LTTE not for people in SL and it is not a big deal as you think.

        SL gover has every right to avoid tamils visiting SL who harbor separatism and anti-Lankan agenda. I hope every govern continue that so these anti Lankan elements would not be able to set foot in SL until they die.

        “Now the poor Tamils are afraid to receive funds from their kith and kin overseas. It’s ok for the Sinhala maids and and Sinhala Toilet cleaners in Middle east and NZ to remitt money for thier kith and kin.”

        Yes Sinhala maids and toilet cleaners can very well send remittances. It is them who looked after your so called brethren in North during the war sending food and medicine while you guys funded the terrorists.

        “So my point is these infrastructure development is not for the benefit of the tamils but fo the logistics of the army and for the logistics of forced settlement of the Sinhalease. The houses built by the Indian Govt are handed over to the army. There are few Houses given to tamils as a show case to fool the IC and UN and UNHCR and Banki Moon”

        There is no such Sinhala settlemet in North. I have told you Sinhala would not like to settle in Jaffna, as it is useless. Even tamils are coming to Colombo. May be few Sinhala families. More than 50% of tamils live in South and this hypocrite is crying because (less than 100) sinhalese are starting to live there. What use for the army with indian made (no roof) houses? There are army camps and cantonments.

        I went to a SL university and studied with Jaffna tamils. They are now employed and earn a good salary and lead a good life. I don’t see them being discriminated against in anyway. They have been given opportunities by this country and used it and reaping the benefits from the opportunities presented by this country. These are the tamils from Jaffna I know.

        Stop spreading propaganda. And mind your own work in your country. You’re not a part of SL.

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          you are trying hard but still failing to counter my arguments above.

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            Dear Rajash,

            Perhaps your language comprehension is standing in the way.

            Re “I am sorry mate frst what development in Jaffana? Ok there are roads and railway built with Chinese money and Indian money. Not by the Sinhala people.”

            What did you give them?
            Landmines?

            It cost SL Rs 11,374,000,000 to remove them and make it safe for you to walk. Just between 2009 and 2012 the money spent on war effected areas is Rs 202,000,000,000. One and a half years later that would have increased by another 100 billion!

            75% of that cost was paid by Sinhalese.
            Yes you are right. The Sinhalese did nothing for the Tamils!
            You have been ungrateful spongers for a long time.
            What an ignoramus!

            Kind Regards
            OTC

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              OTC – I do not have the time to type in a word document and do a spell check and grammar check etc. I type as words come to my mind.
              I know you have created word documents, and formatted in Bold etc , spell check and grammar check, and all you do is cut and paste the text to each of the new topic.

              But never mind just focus on the facts.

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                So where is your reply to him other than pointing at his word doc?

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                  what was his question?

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                    The point about landmines.

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                      Dear Sach,

                      Rajash and Veddha are clueless Rabble that avoids the question and focuses on the writer instead.

                      Follow Rajash’s argument and see how he got trapped.

                      Filibustering is what they do.

                      Kind regards,
                      OTC

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              “75% of that cost was paid by Sinhalese.”

              Well manufacturing news as truth.

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                Dear NV,

                Re “Well manufacturing news as truth”

                Your inability to understand is due to your ignorance.
                Hence educate yourself before you make a fool of yourself.

                The govt derives revenue by taxation.
                There are two types of tax.
                Direct Tax and Indirect Tax.

                The larger of the two is the indirect tax and is paid by everyone (including the destitute).

                The per Capita revenue = Total Revenue/population

                Thus the revenue collected from different groups would be the numbers in that group multiplied by the per capita revenue.

                This is why the 13A recognizes that proceeds of development should be disbursed according to the national Ethnic Ratio.

                Kind Regards,
                OTC

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                  Off the Cuff

                  A geneticist, a historian,an anthropologist, now an economist, ………….. all roled into one, a great achievement for a Sinhala/Buddhist.

                  Now I have a problem with my son’s home work. Since my Elders are away on lecture tour I am relying on you to help me bluff my way out. He challenged me to explain certain formula/concept that he was interested in. The whole thing looks Greek to me. Here is what he showed me:

                  (GREV) = c +a(GDP80) + b(CI ) + error term
                  it i i

                  ITR = c + a(CI) + b(IMV) + error term
                  it i i

                  Please, please help me,

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                    Dear NV,

                    Your inability to make a logical argument is surprising.

                    Instead of focusing on me, your focus should be on what I have written. You have not written anything of substance in this debate with me.

                    Apparently you have been living a fantasy on CT making snide remarks at people who could not take you on.

                    Kind Regards,
                    OTC

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                      “Your inability to make a logical argument is surprising.”

                      Why should it surprise you since I never claimed to be a genius like you with a knowledge of multi discipline in the first place?

                      As an economist you should be able to give me some clue as to the nature of these functions. My son now says (by the way he is only 12 years old)it has something to do with correlation coefficient of corruption and taxation.

                      Could you expand on it?

                      “Instead of focusing on me, your focus should be on what I have written.”

                      I thought the person behind OTC is most interesting than what he/she writes. You disappoint me on both count. Either way there isn’t any scope for discussion.

                      Here is my specific question:

                      Have you had chance to read Jane Russell’s entire book and Hindu Organ?

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                      Dear NV,

                      Re “Why should it surprise you since I never claimed to be a genius like you with a knowledge of multi discipline in the first place?”

                      Well I did not claim what you say I claimed in the First place (please prove that claim). You have a propensity to Hallucinate. But you saying what you said indicates the Green Eyed Monster of jealousy in you has been influencing your writing.

                      Are all those comments made by you all over CT on various subjects, done without ANY understanding of the subjects, you wrote on? Have you been Pontificating in Ignorance?

                      Re “As an economist you should be able to give me some clue as to the nature of these functions. My son now says (by the way he is only 12 years old)it has something to do with correlation coefficient of corruption and taxation”

                      Apparently you son is wiser than you. With such wisdom available in house, why don’t you use him more often to vet your comments? Perhaps that would help you to improve on your current maturity level.

                      Re “I thought the person behind OTC is most interesting than what he/she writes. You disappoint me on both count. Either way there isn’t any scope for discussion.”

                      I thought the person behind “Native Veddha” was intelligent and honest. But I was disappointed to see that NV was neither intelligent nor honest as was evident in this debate. NV insisted that he was a Veddha who had access to the Hindu Organ issue of 1939 and Dr Russell’s book. Yet he continued to avoid what the Hindu Organ and Dr Russell stated about GGP.

                      Re “Here is my specific question: Have you had chance to read Jane Russell’s entire book and Hindu Organ? “

                      Now that is interesting. The goal post keep on moving as time goes on!

                      Your SPECIFIC question on May 22, 2014 at 8:27 pm was different.
                      You asked “Could you quote the chapter and pages where it was quoted that “If you are looking for someone to blame, blame the Father of Racism in 20th Century Sri Lanka, Mr. GGP. He started the racist snowball.”

                      That was a DUMB question unbecoming of a 5th grade student.
                      English has rules that define how a quote should be indicated in an essay. What I wrote on May 22, 2014 at 1:42 pm had none of them.

                      You were foolish to interpret my writing as a quote because I provided the reference sources I used in writing my comment. I did not QUOTE from any of my references. What I wrote was my own.

                      You requested me to state what Dr Russell and the Hindu Organ said about GGP

                      You wrote “Seriously state what those two publication say about GG Ponnampalam and the often quoted 1939 riots. Then give us the pages.”

                      A detailed response was given on May 23, 2014 at 11:11 am. Which included page numbers. https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/chandrika-inclusive-whom-have-we-tamils-spared/comment-page-2/#comment-1289645

                      You made the Cardinal mistake of stating that after reading Dr Russell, you (or your elders) could not find ANYTHING that indicated GGP’s Racism. But since I knew my facts, that Blatantly Dishonest Attempt at suppressing the TRUTH, exposed your ethnicity to a degree of certainty.

                      It said that you were not the IMPARTIAL person that you tried to show the GV readership.

                      It said that you were a Tamil Separatist trying desperately to discredit the Truth.

                      This is what you wrote “As I mentioned earlier my Elders have access to both The Hindu Organ and Communal politics under the Donoughmore Constitution, 1931-1947, by Jane Russell. I asked Banda and Mechanic the same question both conveniently ignored. My elders have gone through the entire book and they find no mention of GG Ponnampalam starting the riots nor do they found Ponna’s racism.

                      Then you asked “Have you ever had the chance to read the book or Hindu Organ in your life time? “

                      The fact that I accurately quoted from Dr Russell’s book and gave accurate page numbers in my subsequent reply should have prevented a repetition of that question at a later date.

                      Those were the SPECIFIC QUESTIONS you started with.

                      My detailed response to you on May 23, 2014 at 11:11 am was met by you with a strange response.

                      Your reply of May 23, 2014 at 2:20 pm had no comment about GGP’s Racism that you wanted proof of and which I had supplied you at your request. Gone was your interest in what Dr Russell said about GGP’s Racism or what the Hindu Organ said about GGP causing the ethnic unrest that culminated in the 1939 Tamil/Sinhala riots.

                      You COMPLETELY and TOTALLY avoided commenting about GGP!
                      Instead you went on a never ending trip around the Mulberry Bush making ad hominems and spewing irrelevancies.

                      After failing to demolish any of my arguments and after I had supplied all what you requested, now your interest has shifted to finding out whether I have read the whole book by Dr Russell. Which is irrelevant to the question of whether the Founder of the All Ceylon Tamil Congress, Mr G. G. Ponnambalm is the Father of Modern Lanka’s Political Racism.

                      The moving Goal Posts of a Fraud.

                      Mr G. G. Ponnambalm sowed the winds of Racism and now we are reaping the Whirlwind. Face the Truth without denying it.

                      This discussion moved to the new page on this thread and both of us continued it there.

                      The current discussion is about Rajash’s claim that the Sinhalese did not do anything for the Tamils and your claim that the Sinhala contribution to public spending is not in proportion to the ethnic ratio.

                      Yet I see that you have brought up GGP under this discussion. Were you afraid to continue the discussion where it belonged?

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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                      Have you read the entire Jane Russell’s book?

                      A simple answer yes or no to my above question is suffice.

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                      Dear NV,

                      You wrote on May 22, 2014 at 8:27 pm “As I mentioned earlier my Elders have access to both The Hindu Organ and Communal politics under the Donoughmore Constitution, 1931-1947, by Jane Russell. ….. My elders have gone through the entire book and they find no mention of GG Ponnampalam starting the riots nor do they found Ponna’s racism.”

                      You are a Liar and an intellectual FRAUD

                      What you claimed above was a shameless Lie. You were trying to cover for the Tamil Racists Separatists. It makes you one of them.

                      Now Mr Tamil Separatist, I have given all the proof that you asked. Mr G. G. Ponnambalsm instigated the first Sinhala Tamil Race riots in 1939 by making a HATE Speech on a Public Platform at Nawalapitiya in 1939.

                      You have no way of countering that because it is the TRUTH.

                      The previous century saw Tamil Tamil riots in 1871, 1923, 1929 and 1931 but NO ETHNIC RIOTS.

                      Those Tamil Tamil riots were due to oppression of the Tamil Majority by a minority of High Cast Tamils.

                      The absence of Tamil Sinhala ethnic riots in that century debunks the Tamil Separatist argument that race riots were caused by the Sinhalese, Buddhists and the Mahavamsa because ALL THREE existed prior to 1939 too.

                      Since you have claimed that your “Elders” have gone through Dr Jane Russell’s “entire book and they find no mention of GG Ponnampalam starting the riots nor do they found Ponna’s racism” please use her book and prove that the extracts critical of GGP that I quoted does not exist in the following pages 148, 154, 291 of her book.

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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              The landmine removeal was/is funded by UN donation and also by other charitable organisations. You want to say that everything was paid for by Sinhala people. Even Tamil People pay tax. In fact Tamil people and Tamilm Businesses pay more tax inproportion.

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                Dear Rajash,

                Re “The landmine removeal was/is funded by UN donation and also by other charitable organisations”

                I deliberately withheld the total cost of Land Mine clearance expecting you to come out with a foolish counter. you did just that.

                Total cost of mine clearance to March 2013 was Rs 19,502,000,000
                Lankan Govt contribution was Rs 11,374,000,000
                The foreign contribution was Rs 8,128,000,000

                You asked what development?

                You are even free to walk the North because of that massive sum spent by what you call the Sinhalese Govt. If the funding was limited to UN and INGO/NGO funds ONLY 41% of what is presently habitable in the North would have been habitable.

                The above is just a small fraction of the actual money spent for the welfare of Tamils by the “Sinhala Govt”

                Up to March 2013 the amounts spent is a Whooping Rs 202,000,000,000 on Welfare of IDP, Demining, Resettlement, Roads, Transport, Electricity, Water Supply, Irrigation, Health, Education, Housing, Courts, Agriculture, Fisheries, Livelihood, Telecoms etc

                Of that the Sinhalese have contributed Rs 151,500,000,000

                Why was that done instead of improving Sinhala areas which have a large amount of poor? Because the so called “Sinhala Govt” is Racist?

                Even if you are given an arm and a leg you will still demand for more.

                Dr Jane Russell the British Historian puts that in a nutshell when she wrote “The Tamils, putting forward more and more rapacious demands”

                This has been the tragedy of Sri Lanka.

                Re “You want to say that everything was paid for by Sinhala people”

                That is not what I said (another example of your poor English comprehension). I said 75% of that cost was borne by the Sinhalese.

                Re “Even Tamil People pay tax”

                Did I say No? (yet another example of your poor understanding of English).

                Re “In fact Tamil people and Tamilm Businesses pay more tax inproportion”

                What you have just said is that Tamil Businessmen and Tamil people are more successful than the Sinhalese counterpart.

                Now please explain how a persecuted Tamils (according to the separatist propaganda), do better business than a Sinhalese, when the buyers are 75% Sinhalese? Who are they selling to? Tamil Nadu? Have the Sinhalese stopped buying from Tamils?

                Leaving that foolish comment aside you have a very poor understanding of Indirect Tax.

                Every person who buys food (among many other things) pays indirect tax. Since no one can live without food, the 21 million population has to buy food.

                15,750,000 of them are Sinhalese
                2,310,000 Lanka Tamils,
                1,890,000 Moors
                840,000 Indian origin Tamils

                Do your own calculation and see what a colossal sum the indirect tax ONLY from food is going to be.

                Kind Regards
                OTC

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                  OTC – “Even Tamil People pay tax” Did I say No?>>This is exactly I wanted to get out of your mouth. So dont go about saying the Sinhala people are paying for clearing landmines, that Sinhala people are building roads,etc etc. Say all Sri Lankans are building roads and clearing land mines.

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                    Dear Rajash,

                    My goodness Rajash you are going from Dumb to Dumber.

                    The Land mine clearance has cost the Sri Lankan State Rs 11,374,000,000 up to March 2013.

                    75% of that cost is borne by the Sinhalese. That amounts to Rs 8,530,500,000 which is even HIGHER than the Foreign contribution to Land mine clearance!!!

                    You were unaware of this when you said part of 11,374 million was paid by Foreigners.

                    The total cost of mine removal was Rs 19,502,000,000 of which the foreign component was Rs 8,128,000,000.

                    I hope you know your primary school arithmetic.

                    Now you gloat “Even Tamil People pay tax” Did I say No?>>This is exactly I wanted to get out of your mouth.”

                    Oh that was VERY intelligent but for the fact that I stated in my post to you on May 23, 2014 at 12:40 am, the following

                    75% of that cost was paid by Sinhalese.

                    Is that not DUMBER than your previous DUMB status?
                    How can you claim you have trapped me in to admitting what I have already declared?

                    You have been confirming your lack of English comprehension over and over again.

                    Re “So dont go about saying the Sinhala people are paying for clearing landmines, that Sinhala people are building roads,etc etc. Say all Sri Lankans are building roads and clearing land mines.”

                    Ah that’s enlightening!

                    Finally you are now beginning to think about a Sri Lankan Identity.
                    This means you are beginning to think of a Sri Lankan Govt not a “Sinhalese Govt”.

                    All this time you were asking about what the Sinhalese did for you. When you see that you cannot contest the proven Magnanimity of the Sinhalese you have changed course. It’s a welcome 180 degree turn.

                    Have you given up on your Racist stance? If so it is good news and I welcome it. Hope you can sustain it.

                    Kind Regards,
                    OTC

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            If I fail to counter your so called arguments you wont have to write it down ‘you are not countering my arguments!’

            The simple reason you had to write it down is because you have nothing else to say idiot!

            The reality is you have nothing else to say. You are brought up in a particular set up hating SL and hating Sinhala people and funded terrorists to kill people in my country. You wanted to destroy it. And after all these things killer funded by you were eradicated. You want to belive SL to be of a particular nature. But you are shocked and without answers when real facts are thrown at your face!

            The reality is tamils in Jaffna is FAR FAR and FAR better than they used to be. The only thing that made them better was defeat of LTTE by SLA. You did nothing! Throwing your crumbs in the north after funding a terrorist group doesnt help and wont absolve yourself from the responsibility of supporting terrorism.

            If you have facts at hand and come up with a proper argument. Yelling ‘See I beat ya’ doesnt help your case!

            Have fun next time you cme to SL, we treat guests well.

            And what about Colombo Tamils? Are they dirt poor as well?

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              Sach – “The reality is tamils in Jaffna is FAR FAR and FAR better than they used to be.”

              why dont you justify this statement with facts and figures.

              Go and talk to the Jaffana people they will tell you.

              Colombo Tamils were never poor anyway. And without Colombo Tamils the economy of Sri Lanka will be in tatters.

              Just dont post drastic statements here and expect every one in CT to aaccpt it.

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                at rajash,
                one doesn’t need to bring statistics to prove that a war without Jaffna is better than a Jaffna with war. Any warzone gets better when the war is stopped. The prime reason because no one dies as a result of war anymore. That is the point number 1, to say Jaffna is better.
                People in Jaffna faced lack of goods and services, it was the end of war which provided them a chance to receive goods which were a luxury during the war funded by you. Point nu 2
                The goods were 5 or 6 times pricier than the rest of Sri Lanka during the war. Prime reason being your contract killers taxed them. An average Jaffna person had to pay large amount of money for basic necessities. Now the obvious lack of LTTE taxation has brought down prices of goods. Point nu 3.
                The infrastructure development which you equates to nothing is used by Tamils. It is the tamils who go from Colombo to Jaffna who use them most. I have seen even students in Jaffna coming to Colombo every weekend to pursue educational opportunities in Colombo. What are they using? Are not they using roads, bridges, railway built by MR? what did you use to go to Jaffna from katunayaka? Did not you use MR’s useless infra? Go and see Jaffna people’s trucks lorries filled with veges, prawns coming to south using these infra. If you go to Dambulla you will see many lorries with addresses in Jaffna on them. Are you saying these were the situation before the end of war?
                And did you go to Jaffna when there was war? why are you going now?
                And the Jaffna has wide electricity coverage. All electrical lines, and network grid was built by MR after the war, which was destroyed by killers funded by you. Are you saying access to electricity which was not there for like 20 something years is not development?
                In Jaffna hospital was renovated and recently a cancer unit was also established. Arent they raising standards of tamils? Who use them? People in south? Jaffna has the cancer unit (2nd in SL after Maharagama). Arent they development?
                And what about MR developing telecommunication networks so that your hatred spreading gov bashing and pro ltte websites can reach? Arent they development? Did Tamils have these things during war? Aren’t tamils using them?
                And if you take a news paper ad section today you will see many tamil owned restaurants are coming up in Jaffna. They target mainly Sinhala crowd. Is n’t that a new industry created for tamils? Was it there during the war?
                And of course if you still care about figures, in the first two years post war Jaffna has a 22% growth rate. Mainly because gov is pouring money into Jaffna. To prove that Jaffna without war is better one doesn’t have to bring statistics, mere commonsense and a non racist mindset is enough.
                But I still think there is a lot to do for Jaffna, specially strengthening the poor Northern fishermen who are now turning into labourers due to challenges they are facing when fishing. These are tasks of your nutcase wiggie. But he doesn’t concern them, as condition of Tamil’s lives is not important to them but only about how he can pick a fight with the government.

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                At rajash
                Colombo tamils do not get money from the sky, (might be few cases of remittances) they get by engaging in economic activity in the country and doing jobs. Lets see what are the industries that run the economy in this country. All most all the industries are run by non tamils, either Sinhala or Muslim. So it is nothing but over estimation to say that economy is run by tamils. Then what the businesses tamils are engaged in, real estate business where the main clientale is tamil, running pharmacies, clothing shops, food cafes, jewellery shops, small hardware shops all of which are in tamil neighbourhood. SO their clientele is again tamil. Tamils are not maintaining economy in SL, they engage in macro level. There is no industry that is maintained by tamils.
                It is these business opportunities and job opportunities in the MNC and state corps that help the tamils to operate and earn money. Tamils may have had a clout before LTTE but not anymore. That gap is filled by Sinhala and Muslim people. Even if the current Colombo tamils do not contribute for the economy, there will be another one that fills the gap.
                The reason I talked about Colombo Tamils, is because ethnicity doesn’t play a role in the relatively scarce job opportunities and industries in Jaffna. It is only because it was a war zone. If there is any discrimination based on ethnicity, the Colombo tamils won’t be better off than Jaffna tamils.
                Whatever the weaknesses are in this country, this country gives opportunity to all the people to develop themselves.
                It doesn’t matter whether u ace pt or not, false propaganda must be dealt with throwing facts at face!

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          sach

          “The money loaned by India and china need to be repaid. You don’t repay them.”

          The state is responsible for repaying loans received from China. India gave grant not loans, there is no obligation repay it.

          “It is the toilet cleaners in mid east who repay the loan to build Jaffna”

          You mean the toilet cleaners did pay for the building of Jaffna. What do they live on, Arabian sand dust? How do the husbands live on?

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            at native vadda who is ashamed to reveal his real race,

            And where did I say state is not responsible to repay? Do you think any of your uttering answers my point, idiot? India give both grants and loans. And who is the state? Stat collects money from its citizens and your so called toilet cleaners in mid east.
            Those who loiter in jungles won’t know the earnings of toilet cleaners are also gone into state’s coffers and used to build Jaffna. This is after the pompous tamils destroyed both Jaffna ad rest of SL.

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