By Izeth Hussain –
Izeth Hussain
One of the most important matters to be cleared up in promoting Muslim-Tamil relations is that of Muslim identity in relation to the Tamil caste system. Among the most prominent of the Tamil attacks set off by my four-part article on Tamil racism and 13 A have been the ones by Paul: he has been inveighing, week after week in response to my articles as well as other articles, against the Sri Lankan Muslims for denying that they are largely Tamil converts to Islam who married low-caste Tamils. He has kept reiterating “low caste Tamils” like hammer blows in practically every verbose response of his. He has also been ridiculing Muslims for claiming to be Arabs despite the fact that the Arabs hold them in contempt. His racist hatred was shown some time ago when he wrote that the Muslims were multiplying “like rats”.
The notion that the Sri Lankan Muslims are really Tamils was first given classic expression by Sir Ponnambalam Ramanathan in the late nineteenth century. He was quickly identified by the Muslims as anti-Muslim, and certainly some things he wrote give that impression. More than one Muslim has told me in recent times that he had either said or written that to educate one Muslim would be the equivalent of killing one Tamil. Taking count of some things recently publicized by Rajan Hoole I would say – using today’s terminology – that Sir PR was a reactionary casteist racist, while not discounting his many very positive achievements. Our Paul therefore has a very distinguished pedigree, and evidently represents an enduring strand of very negative Tamil perceptions about the Muslims. In this article I want to point out that those very negative Tamil perceptions are based on utterly silly misconceptions. I feel confident that my arguments in this brief article will eventually lead to the removal of a thoroughly irrational irritant in Muslim-Tamil relations.
The first point I want to make is that the SL Muslims are on average lighter in color than the Tamils and the Sinhalese. My late friend Nissanka Wijeratne, Cabinet Minister and Ambassador, used to hold that the SL Muslims had a substantial proportion of Arab blood in them, the truth of which could be demonstrated by a simple experiment: go to any queue in Colombo and isolate the fairer ones and it will be found that most of them are Muslims. I would agree with that, and so certainly would most unprejudiced observers. I must now make some parenthetical clarifications before proceeding further. When we talk of SL Muslims we mostly mean the Moors – I am one of them. In addition there are the Malays, the Borahs, and the Memons, all of whom are lighter in color than the Tamils and the Sinhalese. The second clarification is that we are here talking of averages: there are many Tamils and Sinhalese who are pale in color or very fair, but on average they are darker than the Muslims. My third clarification is that to say that one ethnic group is fairer than another does not mean that a claim to racial superiority is being made. It is purported to be a factual statement which carries no value judgments with it at all.
What is the explanation for the color difference to which I am pointing? It is known that Arab traders were coming to this island even from pre-Islamic times, and it is also known that they did not bring their females along with them, so that evidently they intermarried with local females, some with the Sinhalese in the hill country and elsewhere, and more with the Tamils in the maritime areas. It seems to be a reasonable hypothesis that after an initial Muslim nucleus was formed in this island, its members tended to intermarry within that nucleus, and that could be the reason for their persisting lighter color. There were of course the Tamil Muslims who migrated to this island from South India. Presumably they intermarried with the Muslims who were already established here. I am writing this article at a commonsensical level not a scholarly one and I now therefore pose a commonsensical question. If all these Muslims are really Tamils, why is it that the Tamils themselves call these Muslims not “Tamils” but “Sonakars”? I pose another commonsensical question also. If the vast majority of the SL Muslims were Tamils who came from South India, why did the indigenous Muslims call Muslim immigrants from South India “Coast Moors”? That was the practice until recent decades.
It seems evident that the SL Muslims have been constituted by three different races: Arab, Tamil, and Sinhalese, with the Arab component not insubstantial if we are to go by the criterion of color. But I think that the question of Muslim racial origin is not of the slightest importance. I have considered it here only because it has apparently loomed large in Tamil consciousness from the time of Ramanathan. What is important is ethnicity, a matter of nurture and not nature, of culture and not genes. The fact that Muslims follow Islam makes them thoroughly distinct from the Tamils. I will cite just one example to show the importance of ethnicity over race. Bengali Hindus and Muslims share the same language and are of the same race, but the difference of religion – one of the factors constituting ethnicity – made Bengal one of the worst sites of rioting during the Partition. The truth is that because of differing ethnicity the Muslims and the Tamils have very little in common. That fact should not be obscured by nonsense about Muslims being Tamil.
I come now to the charge that the SL Muslims are the product of Tamil converts to Islam marrying low caste Tamils – a notion that clearly makes the Tamil Islamophobes ecstatic. That is quite likely because in Sri Lanka there seem to be no high caste Tamils. According to the Hindu Varna system the highest of the SL Tamils, the Vellalas, are Sudras, the lowest of the castes. I hope no Tamil takes umbrage over what I am saying here – I am merely applying the Hindu Varna system to the SL Tamil caste system However I believe that all that is really of no importance at all. What is important is that when someone outside the caste system marries a person of low caste, he is not lowering himself into the caste system but is taking that person outside the caste system. He should be seen as a liberator. That would certainly be true when a Muslim marries a low caste person because Islam places a high value on equality and unity, and according to the Koran human beings are the Vice-regents of God on earth.
It appears from material appearing in the Colombo Telegraph that Tamils have serious misconceptions about the Muslims, misconceptions that can bedevil Muslim-Tamil relations to a serious extent. I can attest that we Muslims never had any serious identity problem. We were aware of the Ramanathan thesis that we were really Tamils, but that caused more amusement than rage, and it certainly did not lead to an identity problem. I believe that the reason is that we Muslims had an instinctive grasp of the importance of the factor of ethnicity which made us very different from the Tamils. The idea that our ancestors could have married low caste Tamils never figured in our consciousness. If that had been brought to our notice as a fact, we would have given it no importance because the notion that some human beings are born inferior and have to occupy inferior stations throughout their lives is totally alien to the Islamic mind, something too ridiculous to be taken seriously. I think it is time to stop blabbering inanely about the identity or commonality of the Tamil speaking peoples. It is time to acknowledge the differences between us and deal with them in a spirit of pragmatic accommodation.
Backlash / April 23, 2016
It is time rational Tamil readers in these pages ignore the gibberish of this obviously deranged senior. Responding to him any further will be to provide dignity to his inane arguments.
The man is not aware when more than one official Muslim delegation rushed to Madras/Chennai following the July 1983 pogrom against civilian Tamils here, the common factor among the spokesmen of these delegations was that Lankan Muslims were Tamils only a few centuries ago – low caste or not being immaterial to the argument here. Shri M. Karunanidhi is alive and well to confirm or deny this – although one can understand if he avoids a discussion in this troubling subject.
Izeth Hussain does not speak for the Muslims and continues to harm the community with his unnecessary and bizarre arguments. It is time he is publicly denounced by the local Muslims themselves before he does irreparable damage.
Backlash
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shankar / April 23, 2016
backlash
does everyone who does not agree with you be classified as deranged?
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donald / April 24, 2016
Obama ` Hussain` came over to UK and asked us to do what USA would never do to themselves. thoppi boys.
he went to Chicago for marriage and stole the presidency by conning the people
Change then next term Hope and folk now are on zero contract and the number unemployed on record has gone down- thoppi boys.
this is how Hussain came to Ceylon.
thoppi karaya ratta vall allnde suraya. (top hats are good at capturing countries)
IH does Pakistani healing dance.
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Boom Boom / April 24, 2016
Muslims do not have casts because they know they are all equal, opportunistic, ethicsless scum. Right?
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Rajash / April 23, 2016
now Izeth is finished with racism and taking on Mahindapala on caste system.
As I predicted before here they are competing with each other to write rubbish and CT is entertaining there cheap articles
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Amarasiri / April 26, 2016
Backlash
“It is time rational Tamil readers in these pages ignore the gibberish of this obviously deranged senior. Responding to him any further will be to provide dignity to his inane arguments.”
Ask the Question, is there any truth yo what the writer is sarong, and if so , what is the truth and what is the half-truth and what is not the truth.
We have heard criticism of Copernicus, Galileo, Kepler, and many others, including Charles Darwin , The Theory of Evolution Vs. Intelligent Design etc, besides Vellahalism and Wahhabism being detrimental to human progress.
You should come up with non ad hominen arguments, and stick to the issues being discussed. Example: Vellahala Castism and racism, Wahhabi Following the Satan and not Islam etc. Come up with data and original references supporting your arguments.
Here is something for you to read. Can you find 5 Vellahala Philosophers Every “high” Caste Vellahala Must Read? Just Reading G. G. Ponnabalam, Ponnambalam Ramanathan and S J V Chelvanayagam, the Vellahalas, will not help the Tamil cause for an Egalitarian, Caste and Racism free society,
To Start with 5 Islamic Philosophers Every Muslim Must Read
Remember, during theie times, the Ulama,m severely criticized them.
Islamic intellectual culture suffers from a philosophy deficit. While there are a few philosophical thinkers in the Muslim World today none of them enjoys the rock star status that many pedestrian preachers and YouTube stalwarts enjoy. What this tells us is that people are beginning to value knowledge but are unable to distinguish between preaching and thinking.
What we need today are critical thinkers who force Muslims to think and not feel-good narratives that create comfort bubbles and inhibit thought. It is only through reading and engaging in philosophical discourses will the intellectual level of the Muslim community rise. Towards that end I want to recommend five Muslim philosophers that all Muslims must read. The purpose of this introduction is to generate enough curiosity so that people can start reading them.
One does not need to be a student or teacher of philosophy to read the works of these great philosophers. The complexity and sophistication of their work is an indication of the quality of intellectual life that prevailed in what is often referred to as the golden age of Islam. All educated Muslims should familiarize themselves with their work just to be intellectually plugged into their own heritage. One does not have to read them in the original, great if you can. Reading at least secondary sources of their works can go a long way in helping one grasp the broad intellectual contours of Islamic civilization.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/muqtedar-khan/5-islamic-philosophers-every-muslim-must-read_b_6912014.html
Al-Farabi (872-951 AD)
Al-Ghazzali (1058-1111 AD)
Ibn Rushd (1126-1198 AD)
Ibn Rushd, known in the West as Averroes, has probably had a bigger impact on Western religion and philosophy than on Islamic thought. Some Muslim historians have described the modern enlightened West as the imagination of Averroes. Ibn Rushd was a remarkable thinker. He was a judge, expert in Islamic law (Maliki), a physician and a philosopher.
In his Fasl al-Maqal (The Decisive Treatise) he makes the case for philosophy and for the compatibility of science and religion, faith and reason. His Tahafat al-Tahafat (Incoherence of Incoherence) is a systematic rebuttal to Al-Ghazzali’s Tahat al-Falasifah (Incoherence of Philosophy) and a strong defense of Aristotelian philosophy. Together the two classics by Ibn Rushd and Al-Ghazzali are a highlight of Islamic philosophical heritage. Muslims must read these philosophers; some of their arguments are still germane.
Ibn Arabi (1165-1240 AD)
Ibn Khaldun (1332-1406 AD)
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Backlash / April 28, 2016
Amarasiri, Good Sir, Thank you for the peace-centric comments.
You ask for the name of 5 Vellala philosophers. I hope you are not implying there can be none. You are far too learned and cultured to make that unfortunate suggestion. Vellala philosophers are found in their tens of thousands in South India – and indeed, many within Sri Lanka. The 5 you mention are successful SL lawyers and may not entirely fit into the description of philosophers. I have met many remarkable men in Sri Lanka who fit into the mould but who are not well known at all. But that in no way means the Lankan Vellal community is sans of those whom you might classify as philosophers. Why do you suggest thinking men/women come only from Vellala communities in the Tamil nation. I am sure there are many in the other Tamil communities as well. I know there have been men of very high learning in the Catholic/Christian priesthood.
I thank you for the names of the 5 ancient Islamic philosophers.
Indeed, the wisdom broadcast by ancient Judaism and then Christianity to the West Asia/Middle East regions have all had their influences on later Islamic thinkers/philosophers. Iran (Persia) too produced great thinkers, philosophers and men of peace such as those who discovered Sufism. In our days
the brillian Egyptian Edward Said was a celebrity in scholarly circles in the American College circuit. It is such a pity this great man died somewhat premature. And then, of course, India (include Pakistan there) prodced graeat thinkers and religious thinkers too. To that list I would add Mirza Ghulam Ahmed, the 19th century Punjabi preacher – whose Ahmadi adherents are put to the sword in recent decades by 2-legged animals breathing the name of Islam. Look at the disgraceful bestiality that is taking place in the name of Islam in that hopeless theocratic country – Bangladesh. It is good you recommend these mean of peace and learning to the Islamic world. They need them badly.
Please continue to share your wisdom and learning with us, Sir.
Backlash
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Amarasiri / April 27, 2016
Backlash
It is time rational readers in these pages ignore the gibberish of this obviously deranged commentators. Responding to any commentator, who cannot understand the context in which these articles are written, will get the incorrect interpretation.
Therefore, must read the Article by the Author First to get the context.
James White’s Reaction To The Holy Qur’an Experiment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxfdk06OYFY
Published on Dec 11, 2015
James White’s Reaction To The Holy Qur’an Experiment
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Amarasiri / April 27, 2016
Backlash
Is Satan a Catholic? Are the Vellahalas Satanic?
It is time rational readers in these pages ignore the gibberish of this obviously deranged Satan who is represented by the Catholic Church.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKg4HLsu5gE
Some Comments:
“Exactly what I’ve always thought, and I was raised a Catholic (I’ve since been trying to recover from that trauma). It must be true, because it’s only Catholics that get “possessed” by Satan and apparently only Catholic priests can perform exorcisms. How odd.”
“Bottom line is your religion is nothing more than a fraud and a lie from ancient times. Provide some evidence for your religious claims, or else they be dismissed as utter nonsense.”
“I think that not even Satan would be able to tolerate the catholics. He would run screaming all the way back to hell!!!”
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Perriappa / April 23, 2016
“The first point I want to make is that the SL Muslims are on average lighter in color than the Tamils and the Sinhalese. My late friend Nissanka Wijeratne, Cabinet Minister and Ambassador, used to hold that the SL Muslims had a substantial proportion of Arab blood in them, the truth of which could be demonstrated by a simple experiment: go to any queue in Colombo and isolate the fairer ones and it will be found that most of them are Muslims. I would agree with that, and so certainly would most unprejudiced observers. I must now make some parenthetical clarifications before proceeding further. When we talk of SL Muslims we mostly mean the Moors – I am one of them. In addition there are the Malays, the Borahs, and the Memons, all of whom are lighter in color than the Tamils and the Sinhalese. The second clarification is that we are here talking of averages: there are many Tamils and Sinhalese who are pale in color or very fair, but on average they are darker than the Muslims. My third clarification is that to say that one ethnic group is fairer than another does not mean that a claim to racial superiority is being made. It is purported to be a factual statement which carries no value judgments with it at all.”
So un scientific and this man claims to be educated. Only a genetic test can prove any of this !
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Fukushima / April 24, 2016
when you understand genes and how they are transferred speak then about colour transfer- till then keep to Mohamed Laffir the champion of the world MOOR – Of his name all the Pol kuddu the top cat Muslims are living off.
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sarrij / April 25, 2016
Periappa.
Colour is genetically related.
Obviously you are an ignoramious racist with a poor understanding of science.
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ramona therese fernando / April 23, 2016
What needs to be established is that Sri Lanka, a Buddhist Majority Nation, give right and dignity to communities to express what they feel belongs genetically to their own community. This is quite different from Hindu India who actively shames and forces communities to become one generic race, before placing them into low-caste groupings away from the master race.
This places Sri Lanka as a progressive Nation, with flexibility towards higher evolutionary qualities for the betterment of mankind.
Having said this, it is seen that the original historical Arab is of dark complexion.
(That queue is too reminiscent of Nazi Germany…although the connotation in this case is not racist, but of antiquated thought)
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Old Codger / April 23, 2016
Ramona,
Under the façade of unity and accommodation there lay hidden hatred and mistrust .They will subscribe to the Chinese plan, and create a mega port city for foreign transaction, while attempting to retain the country spirit.It should be something like the Myanmar plan, but with lesser paranoia and greater acknowledgement of the already commercialized processes in the cities, that should be retained to be in synergy with the heritage of the masses.We hope it is remembered that the Sinhalese turned on each other in the midst of their misery (the result of colonial displacement), and killed even more of their numbers during the insurgencies. That might be impossibility, for two different ideologies cannot exist so close to each other under the same flag.
Population has remained static for centuries (depending on the countability factors- however, in recent times, the number has remained the same for several decades)
Involving solely in antiquated numbers kills true analysis. It merely placates self-seeking desires and skews the truth towards the rights of so many more
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ramona therese fernando / April 23, 2016
Old Codger,
from “It should be something like the Myanmar plan,…” to the end, it sounds like what I have previously written. So, what’s the idea behind all of this, coming from you?
But to answer to your assertion : “Under the façade of unity and accommodation there lay hidden hatred and mistrust,” the rest of what you quote me puts it well into perspective.
1) Sinhalese were poor and suffering before and hence the unrests. Tamils were not suffering so much with niche money from Tamil Nadu (thosai kadays and all). Hence the hidden hatred and mistrust.
2) Country population went up by about 5% each year, since 1950, as counting techniques became more do-able. That means over 15-20 million people were suffering for a long time. It’s been allayed a bit with global world market stabilizing monetary trends a bit.
3) Port City will stabilize global money for Sri Lanka even further. Hence when there is good money in the country, all races and communities will be busy involving with money to care too much about race and caste and province and states.
4) Buddhism will be the ultimate unifier. All countries of the world will do well except for one humongously disgusting country viz. Hindu caste-driven India! Hence must we never build that land-bridge.
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Old Codger / April 24, 2016
Ramona dear,
Those are not my arguments. They are your own statements in various posts. So I have got you to argue with yourself!!!!!
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ramona therese fernando / April 24, 2016
No, Old Codger. I was solidifying my arguments and making them comprehendible to you.
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Pistachio / April 24, 2016
Who Is This Slippery Slitherer?
Burger 1/2!
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Celeo, / April 23, 2016
“This is quite different from Hindu India who actively shames and forces communities to become one generic race,”
What a load of crap!
India is the most democratic and secular country in the world.
Someone rightly said not to take ramona therese Fernando seriously because she shoots senseless rubbish (most probably from the rear) and to use her only for comic relief.
She proves over and over that she is just a comedy piece.
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ramona therese fernando / April 23, 2016
Typical perverse response. You can’t contain yourself, can you. Shows off your community’s spirit.
Anyway to answer to your assertion that India is the most democratic and secular country in the world : 160 million are considered untouchable in India(Wiki). And that’s not speaking of the other 777-million low-castes.
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Pistachio / April 25, 2016
RTF the stupid like sach, jim softy…
Windbag Whooosh whoosh poop.
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Backlash / April 29, 2016
Ramona TF
“This is quite different from Hindu India who actively shames and forces communities to become one generic race, before placing them into low-caste groupings away from the master race” From where did you pick up this putrid gem? Suggest you inflict the limited Wisdom you are capable of from your cave to those in the Buddhist majority from here, to whom you appear to focus your thoughts. India and Hinduism are far too vast
for your pea brain, my dear girlie.
Backlash
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Amarasiri / April 23, 2016
Izeth Hussain
RE: Muslim Identity & Caste
1. “One of the most important matters to be cleared up in promoting Muslim-Tamil relations is that of Muslim identity in relation to the Tamil caste system. “
“The notion that the Sri Lankan Muslims are really Tamils was first given classic expression by Sir Ponnambalam Ramanathan in the late nineteenth century.” “He was quickly identified by the Muslims as anti-Muslim, and certainly some things he wrote give that impression. More than one Muslim has told me in recent times that he had either said or written that to educate one Muslim would be the equivalent of killing one Tamil. “
Perhaps, the roots go to the Vellahala concept of the Vellahas being “high’ Caste everybody else, including “low” caste Tamils and Muslims should not be educated, and need to be “kept’ in their place as defined by the Vellahala Castist and racist ideology.
2. “Taking count of some things recently publicized by Rajan Hoole I would say – using today’s terminology – that Sir PR was a reactionary casteist racist, while not discounting his many very positive achievements. Our Paul therefore has a very distinguished pedigree, and evidently represents an enduring strand of very negative Tamil perceptions about the Muslims. “
There are two types of Tamils. Their Intelligence is bi-modally distributed, as given below. One can reason that both PR and Paul are both Vellahala Tamils and theit their intelligence is closer to the origin in the Tamil IQ distributions.
The Story Of Two Graphs drawn by A Tamil Man: By Mahesan Niranjan
Onion Prices and Tamil IQ Distributions
https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/the-story-of-two-graphs-drawn-by-a-tamil-man/onioniqdistributions/
https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/the-story-of-two-graphs-drawn-by-a-tamil-man/
3. “The first point I want to make is that the SL Muslims are on average lighter in color than the Tamils and the Sinhalese. My late friend Nissanka Wijeratne, Cabinet Minister and Ambassador, used to hold that the SL Muslims had a substantial proportion of Arab blood in them, the truth of which could be demonstrated by a simple experiment: go to any queue in Colombo and isolate the fairer ones and it will be found that most of them are Muslims.”
“It appears from material appearing in the Colombo Telegraph that Tamils have serious misconceptions about the Muslims, misconceptions that can bedevil Muslim-Tamil relations to a serious extent. “
In Sri Lanka, being a Muslim, is really not a race, but a religion. However, they were Foreigners, Arabs, Persians etc. before the advent of Islam, and they became Muslims. So, in the West coast and in the Hill country, most Muslims have Foreign blood along with Sinhala and Tamil blood depending on the degree of intermarriages. Perhaps in the East Coast and the North, the Muslims have a higher proportion of Tamil Blood.
Just because the Muslims spoke Tamil, it does not mean that they are essentially of Tamil Ethnicity. Furthermore, many Sinhalese who now Speak Sinhala are likely to be Tamils, not Sinhala. They are called Sinhala speaking Tamils. In America, Blacks, Germans, Italians, Poles, etc Speak English, but they are not English.
If somebody wants to do a scientific study, they can look at the DNA of the Sri Lankan Muslims from the west Coast, Hill Country, , East coast and Northern Province, can easily identify the Ethnic mix up.
Onion Prices and Tamil IQ Distributions. Do the Tamils still believe that the Sun goes around the Earth?
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Paul / April 27, 2016
Sorry I am not Vellalah I am Brahmin. My family name is Sarma or Sharma
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Psycho / April 23, 2016
So you guys are proud to have bloody Arab bufoons genes? What a shame?
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shankar / April 23, 2016
and also by marrying the local women their buffoonery increased,the bloody fools.Why coudn’t they try to marry some portuguese,duth or british women.
Or maybe the coudn’t and had to make do with what was freely available.I’am reminded of a sinhalese chief who had loyally served his portuguese masters and asked them for a white wife.The portuguese told him she is arriving on a certain day.the chief and his retinue waited when the ship landed with a great ceremony to welcome the white woman.Out stepped a portuguese sailor carrying a white poodle bitch for him.
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Amarasiri / April 23, 2016
shankar
“Out stepped a portuguese sailor carrying a white poodle bitch for him.”
Thanks. Interesting story.
When the Portuguese first landed in the Land of Native Veddah Aethho, the Sinhala, saw them eat white bread and drink red wine. So, they reported to the King, White Men came by Big Ships, and they ate White Rocks and Drank Blood. ( Kiru Garunda Gal Kala Le Bothi)
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Fukushima / April 24, 2016
,Amarasiri,
Sinhala Ulu is Spanish Missionary Tiles- you were hanging from trees.
Cochin – Vasco da Gama- had black slaves rowing his boats and mixed portugese+muslim in his boat and he robbed the Cochin folk as he could not pay them- he learnt to LOOT from Muslim (the word LOOT enters the Cambridge Dictionary from Muslim action) !983 they LOOTED Colombo while the Sinhalese set fire- I saw it and went round Colombo seeing it.
His 2nd trip he wanted all muslims killed (it was vengeance of seeing muslim traders and that they were now a mixed race for 800 years)
There were only monkey’s hanging on trees when he saw Lanka because pepper the currency of Pagen Spain/portugal under Moro rule came via Cochin. From Roman period to British have entered India via Cochin except the VOC.
Bent curve 65 manager of typist pool- update your Utopian Idiocracy.
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Amarasiri / April 23, 2016
Psycho
“So you guys are proud to have bloody Arab bufoons genes? What a shame?”
Indeed there a lot of “bufoons” out there.
Interesting Comment. Let’s dig deeper into this comment and look into what it means.
Lets into the Native IQs of different Nations these “Arab bufoons” came from. Lets look into the Arabs and Persians whose genes or blood at least most of the West Coast Muslims probably have genes from.
A quick analysis indicates that Native Intelligence of the “Arab bufoons genes” from Morocco, Saudi Arabia and Iran, have an Average Native IQ of 84, whereas the Native IQ of Sinhala and Tamils are around 79. Therefore, the Sri Lankan Muslims must have a Native intelligence between 79 and 84, depending on the degree of “Arab bufoons genes”. Perhaps, one can look at the Native IQ of Maldives, that had a god degree of “Arab bufoons genes”, that has a Native Intelligence of 81, an increase of 2 points from the Sri Lankan value of 79. This helped the Maldivians and further diversified their gene pool and is healthier, for a small population.
National IQ Scores – Country Rankings
http://www.photius.com/rankings/national_iq_scores_country_ranks.html
The intelligence scores came from work carried out earlier this decade by Richard Lynn, a British psychologist, and Tatu Vanhanen, a Finnish political scientist, who analysed IQ studies from 113 countries, and from subsequent work by Jelte Wicherts, a Dutch psychologist.
Countries are ranked highest to lowest national IQ score
Rank
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1 Singapore 108
2 South Korea 106
3 Japan 105
4 Italy 102
9 Denmark 98
9 France 98
9 Hungary 98
9 Latvia 98
9 Spain 98
9 United States 98
12 Portugal 95
33 Kazakhstan 94
15 Malaysia 92
16 Brunei 91
16 Cyprus 91
17 Bosnia and Herzegovina 90
17 Kyrgyzstan 90
17 Turkey 90
20 Azerbaijan 87
20 Indonesia 87
20 Iraq 87
20 Tajikistan 87
20 Turkmenistan 87
20 Uzbekistan 87
21 Kuwait 86
21 Philippines 86
22 Eritrea 85
22 Yemen 85
23 Morocco 84
23 Afghanistan 84
23 Iran 84
23 Jordan 84
23 Morocco 84
23 Nigeria 84
23 Pakistan 84
23 Saudi Arabia 84
23 Uganda 84
23 United Arab Emirates 84
24 Algeria 83
24 Bahrain 83
24 Libya 83
24 Oman 83
24 Syria 83
24 Tunisia 83
25 Bangladesh 82
25 Dominican Republic 82
25 India 82
25 Lebanon 82
25 Madagascar 82
25 Zimbabwe 82
26 Egypt 81
26 Maldives 81
28 Sri Lanka 79
28 Zambia 79
29 Qatar 78
35 Sudan 71
37 Ethiopia 69
38 Somalia 68
41 Cameroon 64
41 Gabon 64
41 Mozambique 64
42 Saint Lucia 62
43 Equatorial Guinea 59
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sekara / April 23, 2016
Using IQ as a scale of intelligence is like using a meter ruler to measure the mass of water.
It works in given contexts but not universally.
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Amarasiri / April 23, 2016
sekara
Was trying to comprehend Psycho’s comment:
“So you guys are proud to have bloody Arab bufoons genes? What a shame?”
This puts all the “bufoons” on the same scale,just normalizing the scale.
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Old Codger / April 23, 2016
Amarasiri,
How come Israel, China , and UK aren’t in your IQ list?
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Amarasiri / April 24, 2016
Old Codger
“How come Israel, China , and UK aren’t in your IQ list?”
The list was too long. Just provided the link.
Israel,(95) China (100) , and UK (100) IQ list?
IQ is 80% Genetic and 20% Environmental, including Nutrition.
http://www.photius.com/rankings/national_iq_scores_country_ranks.html
Rank
——– Country
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1 Singapore 108
2 South Korea 106
3 Japan 105
4 Italy 102
5 Iceland 101
5 Mongolia 101
6 Switzerland 101
7 Austria 100
7 China 100
7 Luxembourg 100
7 Netherlands 100
7 Norway 100
7 United Kingdom 100
8 Belgium 99
8 Canada 99
8 Estonia 99
8 Finland 99
8 Germany 99
8 New Zealand 99
8 Poland 99
8 Sweden 99
9 Andorra 98
9 Australia 98
9 Czech Republic 98
9 Denmark 98
9 France 98
9 Hungary 98
9 Latvia 98
9 Spain 98
9 United States 98
10 Belarus 97
10 Malta 97
10 Russia 97
10 Ukraine 97
11 Moldova 96
11 Slovakia 96
11 Slovenia 96
11 Uruguay 96
12 Israel 95
12 Portugal 95
13 Armenia 94
13 Georgia 94
13 Kazakhstan 94
13 Romania 94
13 Vietnam 94
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shankar / April 24, 2016
amerasiri
it is strange that mongolia is 101.Are we going to be conquered by genghis khan again,this time by his brains,not balls?
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frankistine / April 24, 2016
shanker, caution:don’t click on his links they all carry spyware.
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frankistine / April 24, 2016
Old Codger : please don’t click on amere links they all carry spyware.
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Fukushima / April 24, 2016
Amarasiri drunk on Vella Ra doing his crab crawl. he does not know to run when cornered.
maru sira.
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sekara / April 24, 2016
Amarasiri
We cannot choose our ancestors; and we cannot be sure of them either.
Do not judge all Arabs by the likes of IH.
Orabi Pasha was a great friend of Lanka.
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Amarasiri / April 23, 2016
Izeth Hussain
RE: Muslim Identity & Caste
“That is quite likely because in Sri Lanka there seem to be no high caste Tamils. According to the Hindu Varna system the highest of the SL Tamils, the Vellalas, are Sudras, the lowest of the castes. I hope no Tamil takes umbrage over what I am saying here – I am merely applying the Hindu Varna system to the SL Tamil caste system However I believe that all that is really of no importance at all.”
“It appears from material appearing in the Colombo Telegraph that Tamils have serious misconceptions about the Muslims, misconceptions that can bedevil Muslim-Tamil relations to a serious extent.”
The Data seem to support that the Sri Lankan Tamils had idiotic leaders in Ponnabalam Ramanathan, G. G. ( Gon Goma) Ponnambalam ( Ponaya), who wanted 50/50, and many other idiotic Vellahalas, that in the end it created a mess for the Tamils, Muslims and Sinhala. They are like the guy who puts cow dung into milk.
They are best described by the articles given below, and as described by H L D Mahindapala, Izeth Hussein and Dr. Rajan Hoole.
Now getting a better understanding of the bimodal IQ distribution of the Tamils, as published in CT.
The Story Of Two Graphs drawn by A Tamil Man: By Mahesan Niranjan
Onion Prices and Tamil IQ Distributions
https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/the-story-of-two-graphs-drawn-by-a-tamil-man/onioniqdistributions/
https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/the-story-of-two-graphs-drawn-by-a-tamil-man/
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Naga / April 23, 2016
I have not read all the previous four articles written by Izeth Husssin under the title “Tamil Racism and 13A” and therefore I cannot comment on all what he stated in those four articles.
However, in this article Izeth Hussain makes some valid arguments.
His reference to the lighter skin colour of the Sri Lankan Muslims as an indication of their Arab ancestry, cannot be dismissed easily, though he seems to correctly asserts that this is not based on any scientific evidence.
I have not come across any Sri Lankan Muslim identifying himself or herself as a Tamil. I come from Batticaloa and Batticaloa Tamils call the Muslims living there as “Sonakar” and not as Tamils. Batticaloa Tamils do not treat them as fellow Tamils but as a separate community. There is no inter-marriage between the Tamils and Muslims. Tamils and Muslims in the East live separately and have their separate ways though some of the customs are similar. Historically there had been no enmity between the Tamils and Muslims in the East and the Muslim-Tamil riots are only of recent origin. However, one undeniable fact is that Eastern Tamils treated the Muslims as somewhat inferior to them. Even today Eastern Tamils call Muslims derisively as “Sonikal” and “Kakamar”.
Federal Party and Jaffna based Tamil parties in order to add weight to their argument for a Federal system of government or a separate Tamil Eelam state coined the term “Tamil speaking people” to include Muslims and say that Muslims are Tamils too. This is a fallacious argument.
Sri Lankan Muslims say they are not Tamils. We have to accept that. There should not be any further argument about this. Period.
And Muslims of the East have every right to call for separate administrative arrangements if Northern and Eastern provinces are to be made a single unit of devolution.
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Kumar / April 23, 2016
“It seems evident that the SL Muslims have been constituted by three different races: Arab, Tamil, and Sinhalese”
A commonsensical question one can ask from Izeth Hussain is, if the SL Muslims have been constituted by three different races: Arab, Tamil, and Sinhalese, then why is the mother tongue of the SL Muslims in the entire country (deep down South, North, East and West) is Tamil and NOT Sinhalese or Arabic?
“If all these Muslims are really Tamils, why is it that the Tamils themselves call these Muslims not “Tamils” but “Sonakars”?”
The Moors/Muslims of Sri Lanka are known as Sonakar (in Tamil) or Marakkala (in Sinhala). They are actually a mixture of Tamil Hindus and Arabs. In Tamil Nadu and Kerela, the local Hindus who married the Arab Merchants and converted to Islam were known as the Sonakar community.
At that time, a good number of Sonakar were enlisted in the naval force of Zamorin (royal title used by the Hindu rulers of Malabar) and given the title of Marakkar (so named because they were using wooden boats).
The Marakkar established a monopoly in the commercial activities in the Indian Ocean and one of their main trade was spices. The South Western coast of Sri Lanka where the premium quality spices (such as cinnamon) were grown was the first landing/settling place of the Marakkar or Sonakar (Muslims) in Sri Lanka. Within a short period, all the trade in the Island was in the hands of the Moors.
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sekara / April 24, 2016
Kumar
Not all trade. The Indians dominated a good slice of it.
People from Matara and the islands off Jaffna are reputed for their knack as traders.
In Gujarat Hindu Baniyas dominated trade. Hindu Patels (not originally a business community) dominated small trade in Britain in a mater of 20 years.
It is nor race but historical circumstances, as in the case of he European Jews.
The Muslims were mostly descendants of traders especially in the South. The language of trade at the time of Arab arrival was Tamil and remained so for long.
The other is religion. Much Islamic literature was translated to Tamil in South India and shared with local Muslims.
Illiteracy of Muslim women also helped to retain Tamil at home.
All said, today the average Muslim writer writes better Tamil than an average Tamil writer from N&E, let alone Colombo.
I would recommend Prof. MA Nuhman’s book on the Muslims of Lanka. Balanced and more precise than what the likes of IH dish out.
It addresses the issues raised by you.
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Native Vedda / April 24, 2016
Kumar
“A commonsensical question one can ask from Izeth Hussain is, if the SL Muslims have been constituted by three different races: Arab, Tamil, and Sinhalese, then why is the mother tongue of the SL Muslims in the entire country (deep down South, North, East and West) is Tamil and NOT Sinhalese or Arabic?”
Tamil used to be one of the trading language prior to Islam/Arabs took control of Indian ocean. Galle Trilingual Inscription is in three languages, Chinese, Tamil and Persian, erected in 1409 by Chinese Admiral Zheng He in Galle.
Ibn Battuta in his travel diary mentions meeting Arya Chackravarti in Battala, (Putalam 1341).
Then the question is why didn’t Zheng He include Sinhala in his stone?
There could have been many reasons as to why Muslims use Tamil as their first language. In about 100 years most Muslims could claim to be Sinhala/Muslims, as I heard such noises recently.
I won’t be surprised if half the population converted to Hindi speaking Sinhala/Buddhists, Hindi speaking Tamil/Hindus, .. Hindi speaking Tamil/Sinhala/Arabic Muslims.
In future we will still be discussing the stupid question of why Sinhalese, Tamils and Muslims form part of the Hindi speaking people. Language replacement happens over a period of time through politics, trade, cultural influences, and so.
The worrying thing should be how best to preserve what we have now, rich languages.
The way things are soon you will see the demise of Tamil through out the world, followed by Sinhala Language.
If you want to save both, first you make sure the media mostly (TV) stop communicating in Thanglish/Singlish.
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Old Codger / April 24, 2016
NV,
.” In about 100 years most Muslims could claim to be Sinhala/Muslims, as I heard such noises recently. “
“Language replacement happens over a period of time through politics, trade, cultural influences, and so. “
Interesting point. This process is actually happening in the coastal belt from Negombo to Puttalam. There are many people who call themselves Sinhala but speak Tamil at home. They are mostly Catholic.Check them out before they become Buddhist as well. They might even be the vanguard of a future BBS.
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Good student / April 26, 2016
Naga,
Did you know how the Muslims ended up in the Eastern province and Kandy areas?
It is largely because the Sinhalese Buddhist kings out of compassion gave them refuge, during the Portuguese times, when the good Catholics were persecuting everyone in the Island. But the Portuguese Catholics gave them special treatment because the Muslims had invaded Spain and Portugal via north Africa.
Now they dominate trade and try destroy the culture and religion which gave them refuge! Abusing tolerance.
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Amarasiri / April 23, 2016
Naga
“His reference to the lighter skin colour of the Sri Lankan Muslims as an indication of their Arab ancestry, cannot be dismissed easily, though he seems to correctly asserts that this is not based on any scientific evidence.”
Have you been to a Muslim Wedding, a Sinhala Wedding and a Tamil Wedding?
Then looked at the guests? It is very easy to see the differences.
Yes, on the average, the Muslims are slightly lighter in complexion, but the complexion distribution is wider. This indicated that the Sri Lanka Muslim community gene pool is wider than the other communities. Where did this wide diversity come from? Foreigners, Arabs, Persians, Indians, Sinhala and Tamils.
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Spring Koha / April 23, 2016
……Islam places a high value on equality and unity……..
That is why the Muslims are slaughtering each other on the killing fields of the Middle East and Arabia.
That is why our housemaids and houseboys are treated like scum.
Who gives a flaccid foreskin about the origins of our Muslim community. They are here, and share this land like no other with us. All that matters is that we treat them with respect and consideration and give them the freedom to enjoy with all the peace we aspire to.
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donald / April 24, 2016
Bookworm,
1970 they and socialist took away the English medium for themselves did you cry?
From 1970 to now do you have a stockpile of energy from Muslim world because from 1948 they are in every government and hold placards for muslims terrorist of the world.
What a Hippocratic socialist world of Obama (change then hope)- He was here at UK to ask us to do what USA would never do.
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Native Vedda / April 24, 2016
donald
“from 1948 they are in every government and hold placards for muslims terrorist of the world.”
Do they support Pakistan cricket team, even when they play against Sri Lanka?
Did they support Mukti Bahini in 1971?
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donald / April 24, 2016
Yes they do or its blasphemy.
In the west its 100% because they have the freedom to practice the faith.
This is what has angered most professionals in the west to see professionals from the islamic world go out with them and cheering islamism. same goes to most lankans.
Ramona would do the same now that she is in the west- sach, jim soft …
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donald / April 24, 2016
“Did they support Mukti Bahini in 1971? “
This is the classic case of Muslim toppi peratu.
They worked with the Indian forces to rescue bangala desh and stop west pakistan.
Many hindus gave their lives and as soon as the job was done assisted by Henry Kissinger (jew) on the 9-10 day Mujubur Rahman and all his followers screamed the Only Alla gave them the freedom and Henry threatened Indra with nuke and the 7th fleet was heading from Japan to India so they withdrew immediately. Then the next thing they did was create slang directed at India.
Same as Sunday Sil, Monday Kill, Kill the Veddha blame the Suddha.
Sinhala Buddhist.
All 3 parties- Catholic/Jews /Islam are from the same stone and blood brothers crusaders. See what they do. They are now coming into Turkey with Merkel(stupid catholic priest daughter like Gordon Brown who spoke about a secret formula god gave and landed UK in financial Crisis then gave TATA £3 billion for free- now TATA steel sells- Iranian like there- fraud from water to paying hegel eggheads) under pressure VW (5% of Auto lost) ie return from greece. Then Turkey gets EU membership then All Muslims enter free pass via turkey to EU in swarms because they can practice radical islam and capture every council seat- this the muslims of eu are confirming..
There is going to be shooting in the parks- so I hope for Trump whom Xi and Putin back.
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Native Vedda / April 24, 2016
McDonald
Did the Muslims in Sri Lanka support Mukti Bahini in 1971?
Did the Muslims in Sri Lanka support West Pakistan in 1971?
The weeping widow Siri Mao supported Pakistan against Bengali people.
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donald / April 26, 2016
“Did the Muslims in Sri Lanka support Mukti Bahini in 1971?”
NO as M.K. went for Indian help and vice versa to get their freedom.
“Did the Muslims in Sri Lanka support West Pakistan in 1971?”
Yes they supported West Pakistan while West Pakistan was supported by Americans and is supported by USA.
While at Lanka the muslims and Sinhalese hold placards supporting Arab terrorist.
They always had their knickers in a twist. Buy and Sell thats their game.
I blame them both for Badagini!!!
remember gold medalist the Anglo Saxon Kate Nobel – her last article on CT was you folk are Badagini!!- period.
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Amarasiri / April 27, 2016
Native Vedda
“The weeping widow Siri Mao supported Pakistan against Bengali people.”
Why?
She was against Hindi-ans, Indians?
In 1971, She got Hindi-ans, Indians aid to defeat the JVP
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Bensen Berner / April 23, 2016
Hussain sounds more sensible when he writes from a commonsensical point of view rather than from a scholastic angle. It is not understood as to why those who follow the Muslim faith consider themselves as a separate nation and not as those who embrace a faith. Bensen
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Dez / April 23, 2016
Generally one can distinguish a race of people by their appearance ,Sri Lankan Muslims are no different in appearance from the majority of the population.The reason I say this is because they dont look middle eastern just claiming to be of Arab origin does not make sense, I challenge the writer to provide his or hers genealogy.It is a fact they are a converts of low caste Tamils and Sinhalese.
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Mahdhi_Hassan / April 23, 2016
If what Paul says is true, about low caste Hindhus converting to Islam, then there must be many inequitable principles amongst many reasons why people decided to desert Hinduism and embrace Islam. It could be they found in Islam a salvation from the burden of the caste system and its unbearable hardships as if Islam has represented for them a light after thousands of years of darkness, or a savior from drowning or a life after death.
Everyone can conclude through a hasty comparison between inhuman laws of caste-ism and between the Islamic principles of equality. Do you not see that the rich and the poor, the ruler and the ruled, the ignorant and the educated, all stand in the same row in the same mosque for prayer. There is no difference between the rich and the poor in front of Allah. How beautiful are the words of the great Muslim poet, `Allamah Iqbal (1877–1938) when he described this Islamic equality in his poems:
“(The king) Mahmud and (his servant) Ayaz stood in the same row (in prayer), hence no difference remained between the king and his servant. The slave and the owner, the needy and the rich became similar; when they came to Your Blessed Court (O Allah!) they all became one and same.”
How can human mind even imagine the unfair Laws of cast-ism as the revealed Message of the Hindu god Ishvar! The divine message and the divine religion of Islam are always based on the principle of equality. When the sun shines it does not discriminate in the distribution of rays and heat and lights, and when the rain comes down it does not discriminate in the distribution of its pure water. Likewise, when the moon rises it does not discriminate in the distribution of its light. All these favors are from Allah the Almighty and by His permission, and such is the nature of the true divine revelation with its principles and rules, they never could be based on racial segregation or ethnic discrimination. And this confirms that the scriptures that differentiate between people on the basis of race, color or birth can not be divine teaching.
On the contrary, in Islam there is no such merit for a certain race, Allah (Glory be to Him) says:
O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may recognize one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. (Al-Hujurat 49:13)
This blessed verse of the Glorious Qur’an refutes the Hindu caste system because this verse makes the basis of virtue and honor the quality of piety, righteousness and pure faith, not country, color or race as was mentioned in the Laws of Cast-ism.
On the other hand, this blessed verse eradicates the doctrine of some Hindu scriptures that stated that Brahmin caste was created from the mouth of Brahma and Kshatriya from his arms and Vaishyas from his thighs and Shudra from his feet.
The blessed verse from the Holy Quran states clearly that people were created from single male and female, i.e. Adam and Eve, not from the body of Brahma who is regarded as Hindu god.
This verse has a miraculous nature that refutes the concept of creation and the caste system of Hinduism in a clear and patent manner fourteen centuries ago. We should bear in mind that the doctrine of the Hindu caste system and the creation of people from the body of Brahma may not have been so famous at that time in the Arabian Peninsula as it is in our modern time. It denotes the genuineness of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) who was unlettered and never came to India and who was even unable to read any book of Hindu faith. Indeed, the Glorious Qur’an is a true revelation from Allah the Almighty Who is All-Knowing and All Seeing.
Furthermore, the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said:
“O people, your Lord is one; there is no merit for an Arab over a non-Arab, nor is there merit for a non-Arab over an Arab; and there is no merit for a white person over a black person, nor for a black person over a white person; except by measure of [piety and good actions]. Indeed, the most noble among you in the Sight of Allah are the most god-fearing.” (Ahmad)
I conclude that if the Hindhu Manusmriti was a revealed book or was compiled by an impartial and fair person, it has never been included such cruel principles. So it may have been compiled by an intolerant colonist Aryan who invaded India in ancient times(5) and constituted such rules against the original inhabitants of India in order to suppress and control them.
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Old Codger / April 24, 2016
Mehdi,
“There is no difference between the rich and the poor in front of Allah. How beautiful are the words of the great Muslim poet, `Allamah Iqbal (1877–1938) when he described this Islamic equality in his poems”
Yes, all religions extol equality, non-violence, charity, etc. in their holy books. The problem is in the practice. I wonder why Shia Muslims get shot by the Sunni rulers in Saudi Arabia.? Or why Sri Lankan Muslim women are treated as slaves . Or even why when there were slaves in Saudi Arabia(up until the 50’s) , they were all black African, not Bedouin?
It is true that Hindus converted to Islam to get out the caste system, the same way some took to Christianity.
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Pistachio / April 24, 2016
“”It is true that Hindus converted to Islam to get out the caste system, the same way some took to Christianity. “”
No it was a case of house full and overflowing then came the new business in position and they joined.
How do you find different sects of christianty flourishing?
It happened in the deccan plateau of India when there was a lull period and no real rulers but chiefs so more of buddhism alongside hinduism spread.
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jim softy / April 25, 2016
“(The king) Mahmud and (his servant) Ayaz stood in the same row (in prayer), hence no difference remained between the king and his servant. The slave and the owner, the needy and the rich became similar; when they came to Your Blessed Court (O Allah!) they all became one and same.”
Islam has a different rule for female servants and slaves.
Female servants can be raped anytime and it is legal.
See paintings about muslims auctioning women slaves for the highest bidder, how they make the female slave naked and turn around so that everybody can see how good her body is.
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Backlash / April 25, 2016
Mahdi-Hassan,
As to your supposedly innocent comment”why people decided to desert Hinduism and embrace Islam” the reality is in the many centuries of Mogul invasion of the present India Hindus were forced by the sword to forcibly convert to Islam. Millions of refusing Hindus perished thus over the centuries. Therefore to say people deserted Hinduism to embrace Islam is to distort the truth in an a deliberate attempt to mislead the public.
As to your assertion “the rich and the poor, the ruler and the ruled, the ignorant and the educated, all stand in the same row in the same mosque for prayer. There is no difference between the rich and the poor in front of Allah..” While this is theoretically so and Islam should be
praised for this, in reality it is inconceivable to see the Kings of Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Morocco and other leaders of the Islamic countries in the Middle East standing in line for prayer with the hoi polloi in the streets. Most of these leaders have special places for worship where ordinary civilians are disallowed. Of course, for public consumption there are occasional photo-ops where some of them mingle for a few minutes with others in these more visible places of prayer. Like everywhere else the elite in the Islamic countries isolate themselves from the ordinary natives.
BTW, those stringent rules of exclusivism among their elites in Judaism, Hinduism, Christianity – Islam being the late arrival – have gradually given way to the sense of increasing social justice in the evolving modern world.
Backlash
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Paul / April 25, 2016
Nonsense that vast majority of the Sri Lankan Muslims are descended from immigrant Indian Tamil low castes who converted to Islam. A few upper castes may have converted to but it was not the norm but exception.
Yes there is some Arab blood in some of the few hundred elite trading families but this is distant and this does not make them Arab. When challenged the Sri Lankan Moors council was only able to provide proof of a very distant Arab ancestor for a few hundred elite trading families in the island.
The vast majority of the Muslim masses are dark and you cannot distinguish them from the Sinhalese or Tamils if they wear the same clothes.
The fair complexion found amongst the rich elite who make up around 50000 thousand the most out of a population of around 2 million is due to this little bit of Arab ( for your information not all Gulf Arabs are fair many of them are quite dark even without the Negro mix that most of them have)and selective breeding. Also many of them now deliberately marry light skinned non Sri Lankan Muslim women. Most Sinhalese and Tamils will never do this.
A few thousand light skinned population largely from their rich elite, parading around the southern big cities like Colombo Kandy Galle, due to a little bit of Arab mixture/selectively breeding and marrying out does not represent the vast majority of the 2 million Muslim masses. This is like someone making a frivolous claim stating all the Christians in Sri Lanka have European blood and have light skin and then as an example to this, show the few thousand half caste Burghers, who make up less than 1% of the island’s Christians.
All DNA analysis have proven that there is very little Arab or other western Asian blood amongst the Sri Lankan Muslims. They are basically similar to the island’s Sinhalese and Tamils and all of them are very closely related to the people of South India including the Muslims of South India.
DNA analysis of the Muslim Mapila of Kerala also proved the same. Contrary to what they claim, they are almost 95% Tamil Dravidian however the little bit of Arab in them makes them much lighter skin than the general population. Just like the little bit of Brahmin made the Nairs of Kerala very fair and the little bit of Jewish and Syrian Christian and Portuguese blood changed the complexion of the Syrian Christians of Kerala.
All this is a desperate attempt by certain selfish power hungry Muslim elite largely living in the south and now Salafist Muslim fanatics to create a separate identity and origin for the island’s Muslims population for their own selfish power hungry agenda, thinking by doing this and distancing themselves from their real immigrant Indian Tamil Hindu Dravidian origin they will find favour amongst the majority Sinhalese, who have a historical hatred for the island’s Tamils.
The vast majority of the island’s Muslims (70%) live amongst the Sinhalese so think that this fake Arab origin claim will save them. A little bit of Arab does not make you Arab.
If the Muslims in the island want to be separate from the Hindu/Christian Tamils it is up to them and no one is stopping them. Just like the Slavic Muslims of Bosnia. However this does not give them the right to create fake identities and origins or claim an origin that only around 2% of them partly have and backstab their fellow Hindu and Christian Tamils and connive with the Sinhalese to deny the island’s indigenous Eelam Tamil population their just rights and their land, especially in the east where they came as refugees a few centuries ago and are now trying to steal it from the Tamils with the help of the illegal Sinhalese settlers.
They should be correctly classified as Tamil Muslims just like the Indian origin Tamils are called Tamils of Indian origin or the Slavic Muslims of Bosnia are correctly called. These Muslims do not claim a fake Arab or Turkish origin to differentiate themselves from their fellow Christian Slavs.
They are not Sri Lankan Moors. This was an incorrect classification by the Portuguese a name given to all South Asian Muslims that only the Sri Lankan Muslims pathetically cling to but not the others. The Protuguese incorrectly called the Sri Lankan Tamils as Malabars and the Sinhalese Siamese. So are the Sinhalese and Tamils clinging onto these incorrect identities?
Moors are from North Africa/Morocco. The ancestors of the Sri Lankan Muslims did not arrive from there or from the Arabia Gulf but from the Tamil parts of South India. Basically Dravidians with a dash of Arab. That is all.
However this may change. Now other than the microscopic Malay and Borah communities, the rest of the Sri Lankan Muslims or Moors as they wish to be called are of the same ethnic origin speak the same language and follow the same sect of Islam, but in a hundred years language replacement will soon take place in the south. Most of the 70% living in the south will start speaking Sinhalese as their mother tongue and the rest in the north and east will largely retain their ancient Dravidian Tamil mother tongue. Then this unity will break with two linguistic groups forming amongst the island’s Muslims. This why they are desperately trying to create a new Salafist/Wahhabi Islamic identity that will become a future headache to the regions, especially if they are allowed to steal large chunks of the east from the indigenous Tamils
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Good student / April 26, 2016
Paul,
You say “majority Sinhalese, who have a historical hatred for the island’s Tamils”. This incorrect. We Sinhalese did NOT have an historical hatred for the Tamils. The problem started about 2200 years ago when your Tamil ancestors from Tamil Nadu invaded Lanka and started attacking our precious capital Anuradhapura, which represented our hard work.
In fact Tamils attacked it for about 1200 years and then wiped it out by Raja raja in an act of psychopathic/pathological hatred about 1000AD.
When the Sinhalese built Pollonnaruwa, Tamil psychopaths attacked and wiped it out as well. This is one of the unfortunate reason for the Sinhalese antipathy towards the Sri Lankan Tamil, I should say, politicians. We did not attack them they attacked us.
(Bit like the Christian attacks later).We DO NOT hate all Sri Lankan Tamils, we certainly do not hate Tea estate Tamils. In fact many are friends.
Try and learn something and educate yourself and confront your Tamil racism first before you preach to others.
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Pandaranayagam / April 26, 2016
Good Student has seen history from a somewhat distorted prism. Tamils were part of the landscape and governance in the island from the beginning until the last King of Kandy. Tamil influence in the Anuradhapura/Polonnaruwa areas as evidenced in Archeological findings and reports from objective experts. Some of the more distinguished ones are still with us. It is sad in recent times Sinhala extremists like Gunadasa Amarasekera, Nalin de Silva, Champika Ranawake, JHU, S/Ravaya are busy causing destruction or to deliberately conceal actual ancient history of the island in connivance with rogue Sinhala officials in relevant State institutions.
Pandaranayagam
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Paul / April 27, 2016
Sinhalese did not build Polonaruwa most of the ruins there both Hindu and Buddhist were built by the Tamil Cholas and not by the Sinhalese, however the Sinhalese now cunningly display this as ancient Sinhalese ruins. Even all your dynasties are of Pandian or Kalinga origin. Your great king Parakramabahu was from the Pandian Tamil dynasty, this is why he built the statue to honour the great Tamil sage and father of the Tamil language Agathiar. The Sinhalese are now displaying this to the world as the statue of Parakramabahu. No one builds a statue of themselves when they are alive. Go to any part of South India and see the ancient statues honouring the Tamil sage Agathiar, it looks exactly like the so called statue of King Parakramabahu.
Tamils were living in this country from ancient prehistoric times long before a people called Sinhalese emerged. It is not the ancestors of the island’s Tamils who are invaders but the ancestors of most of the present day Sinhalese. Largely from Tamilnadu/Kerala and a few from Bengal/Orissa
You are a very bad student and highly prejudiced go and try to educate your self first before preaching to others.
It is not Tamil racism that has brought this country to this stage but Sinhalese racism and Muslim opportunism. Ironically both these people are largely descended from immigrant Indian Tamil low castes and now beating the anti Tamil drum against the indigenous Tamils. To hide their real origin one is using a fake Aryan origin and the other a fake Arab origin
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Rohan / April 27, 2016
Your rants against the Tamils proves what Paul stated is true
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Ravi-Telugu / April 25, 2016
Dear Mr.Izeth Hussain, Soni
What is your mother tongue?
It is Arabic language (sonaka language)?
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GrandMuftiOfRationalsm / April 25, 2016
The word has two kinds of people. One side looks to the future. This includes how we can right the wrongs of yesterday.
The majority prefer to live in the past. They use superstition (horoscopes included), religion, nationalism and racism to create barriers to advance their parochial interests and security.
Obvious extremes are the Saudis and Pakistanis. However much education is provided the majority of these people, will prefer to wallow in the superstitions of the past.
‘The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man
knows himself to be a fool.’
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Ravi-Telugu / April 25, 2016
There are many caste, lineage, and family groups. The Maulanas or Sayyids claim descent patrilineally from the Prophet or those close to him. The Marakkayas (also Maraikkars or Marikkars) represent a leading business group in and around Colombo. An important Muslim caste in port towns is the Marakkalarayaras. They have a long tradition of trading in ships, dating back to King Solomon. The Lebbe or Lebbai serve principally as prayer leaders and preachers. These groups are like lineages but mostly without any great degree of lineage links. They also serve many of the functions of caste, although endogamy is not practiced as a cultural precept. Barbers form the most separate Muslim group. They are called Nasuvar in the west and Ostas in the east. They have the lowest social status and are practically endogamous, operating as a separate caste. Due to the proximity of Hindu neighbors many Muslim peasants have matrilineal clans.
Marriage and inheritance practices do not always follow Muslim tradition. Cross-cousin marriage is preferred and parallel-cousin marriage forbidden in keeping with Dravidian kinship rules and Tamil and Sinhala marriage conventions. A girl’s parents by custom look for a suitable groom. The two families bargain on a dowry. The girl’s family assumes most of the expense of marriage, entertaining as many as several hundred people. The wedding ritual is simple, in accordance with Muslim custom; however, the bride must be present because in Sri Lanka the groom adorns her with a wedding necklace usually having a crescent on it. Postmarital residence is at the bride’s house among all Sri Lankan Muslims, and the couple may remain there for some months or years. Divorce is rare, and polygyny insignificant. A large number of men take brides from any Muslim category except the barber caste.
(a) Whereas the descendants of the Europeans (the Burghers) resemble their forefathers very closely, the Tamil-speaking Muslims who vociferously claim to be descendants of Arabs, do not have the slightest resemblance to an Arab in stature or complexion.
(b) The mother tongue of the Muslims is Tamil.
(c) The Muslims bear Tamil names e.g. Periya Marikkar, Sinna Lebbe, Pitchai Thamby, Hajira Ammah, Razeena Amma, etc.
(d) Unlike Arab women, local Muslim women bore their noses and put studs, use anklets and gold jewellery.
(e) Adult women wear sarees while teenagers wear Paa Vadai and Thaavani.
(f) Brothers’ and sisters’ children marry as first choice.
(g) The bride is given dowry which is contrary to Muslim Law. A Pakistani who was in Sri Lanka last year for Thableeq, condemned the dowry system practised by local Muslims.
(h) The bride-groom puts a Thali round the neck of the bride. This custom prevails only among Tamil Muslims and Tamil Christians of Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka.
(i) In local Muslim houses Gingelly oil is included in the diet of girls who have attained maidenhood.
(j) Muslim physicians of Ceylon brought their medical literature from Kayal Pattanam in Tamil Nadu. (Ref: Avicenna 1967. Journal of the Unani Medical Students Union.)
(k) Tamil Nadu-type houses can still be seen in Muslim colonies of Mannar, Puttalam and Jaffna.
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Paul / April 25, 2016
Lebbai, Marikar or Marakayan Rawther Thambi are all Tamil Muslim castes from Tamil Nadu now many prominent Sri Lankan Muslims still having these old Tamil Muslim caste names are stating they are not Tamils but Arabs. The former UNP minister Mohamaed’s family originated from Nagoor in Tamil Nadu. A centre for Tamil Islamic learning. Many Sri Lankan Muslims still take the name title Nagoor Meera . Yet all these w-nk-rs now state they are not Tamils but Arabs and the Sri Lankan Muslims are not Tamils
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Backlash / April 26, 2016
Re. Ravi-Telugu’s cogent argument, I am also reminded until about the 1970s Muslim women, more in the EP than the rest of the island,
covered their head/upper body with a white-background sarong (the Palayakattu type) in addition to their traditional saree. This was the style of modest dressing of Muslim women in the Tamilnadu littoral which was copied here.
Some things appear to be clear in this thread. Izeth Hussain, surely, has finally been restrained by the Muslim leadership. This also spares the readers from his regular unwelcome – often venomous – interventions
in each of his articles all of which were engaged by a large number of readers with justifiable spurn.
Better late than never. One hopes his future articles will be on topical subjects of educative value rather than generate hatred and division among the different communities living in relative harmony.
Backlash
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Ravi-Telugu / April 27, 2016
Thank you sir
Nowadays we are having wonderful informative articles from the intellectuals (one should take note of these articles for the best interest of the people in the “island”) except HLDM and IH.
Thank you CT.
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Ceylon Moor -Yes I they are Moors and not Tamils nor sinhalese & will never be / July 15, 2016
https://youtu.be/_Y13tGDY_5Y
moroccan married to vietnamese locals ,their offsprings some look more Vietnamese , some look in between .
They have adopted the local language too.
That’s in forty years.
So do not expect the Sri Lankan Moors to look 100% Moroccan .
I strongly believe the possibility that they married mostly Tamil/malabari women , the want to write Tamil in Arabic transliteration is a significant proof that they were Arabic speakers adopting Tamil as mother tongue . There is no necessity to write Tamil in Arabic transliteration if The Moors were tamil.
may be a few Sinhala women here and there , but the bulk of the women may have been Tamil/Malabari. pls read about Moroccans in malabar /mapalais -marikars
But in no way it makes the Moors tamil . They are Moors , an ethnic mix of Moroccan with any other , the descendants become Moors.
The descendants of Europeans married to sinhala women are either burghers or Eurasians and no Sinhalese , and not all of them look europeans.
Moors of Sri Lanka have a distinctive features , very different even from the coastal Moors (indian Moors)
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