27 January, 2023

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On The Need For Introspection: The Rise Of Intolerance & Warped Narratives

By Hafeel Farisz

Hafeel Farisz

Hafeel Farisz

During my resident time at the Na Uyana Aaranya, Malsiripura in my early twenties, the first two books introduced to me by Ven. Ananda thero were- the ‘ Milinda Panha’ in Sinhala and the Kalama Sutta, of which the small library possessed an English translation. It was not by chance that I ended up in the monastery. My childhood friend was now Ven. Watagoda Maggavihari. I had met him once at the same place prior to him being ordained and a year or two after, I packed my bags on the trek to experience solitude. Although time and tide were never within man’s reach to curtail, I have made it a point to meet Ven. Maggavihari, the most scholarly among my friends at Royal College and one of the most talented of sportsmen on the field, at least annually to discuss life, politics, the unknown and the unfathomable. The discussions are yet to be as memorable as the lesson taught to the Kalamas.

“Do not go upon what has been acquired by repeated hearing; nor upon tradition; nor upon rumor; nor upon what is in a scripture; nor upon surmise; nor upon an axiom; nor upon specious reasoning; nor upon a bias towards a notion that has been pondered over; nor upon another’s seeming ability; nor upon the consideration, ‘The monk is our teacher’. Kalamas, when you yourselves know: ‘These things are bad; these things are blamable; these things are censured by the wise; undertaken and observed, these things lead to harm and ill,’ abandon them” they were preached.

Attempting to understand the unknown and the unfathomable has always been a childhood preoccupation. Was the concept of God, the omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent creator of the world according to religious teachings, human: as petty and arrogant and as the literal interpretation of scripture and ritual would have us believe? Was Nirvana an ideal beyond definition although words have posited it within reality, the place in which the two or three dimensions of consciousness evaporates into the transcendental? What does it really mean to meet God? What did it really mean to attain Nirvana? Were there similarities between the four stages of attaining a truth beyond the ‘self’, in Islam defined as “Sharia” (universal truth/ not to be confused with the term used to describe a man-devised archaic legal system), “Thariqa” ( phase in which the seeker becomes aware of inner guidance), “Haqiqa” (where the seeker understands the nature of being, and is transcendentally in communion with nature), and “Marifa” ( Ultimate attainment of being-where the self is one with its universal nature), and in Buddhism defined in the concepts of Sovan, Sakkudagami, Anagami and Arahath?. Or the more pertinent question as to if such attainment, “Arahath” or “Marifa”, posits the being into the realm of “Nirvana” or in Islam the realm of “Fanaa” ( the passing away of the self, the entry into nonexistence thereby becoming absolute existence) were actually the same stages described in different words? To any follower of these spiritual strands there is very little to distinguish from.monk

If not, were they all pure concepts through which the other- the unknown was explained.  Was such explanation beyond reach of the human mind or are they in fact in reality attainable, remain questions that has continued the childhood preoccupation. I had understood at an early age, that organized religion, be it couched in terms of philosophy or way of life, nationalism and pride were concepts through which identity was created and control was exerted. It was the genetic accident of birth that determined them. Death, the ultimate end- is where the questions arise, and from time immemorial human beings have devised various formulae to explain to themselves the two biggest mysteries of life: Why are we here? What happens after death? Two questions which no amount of theology, religion, or philosophy have yet been able to provide answers to.

Today, religions thrive in the very fact that such answers have not been provided. But they counter it with certainty, a sense of convoluted paranoia and certainty which the intellect doesn’t, could not, and ideally should not perceive. The certainty has evolved  into an unbridled conviction which adherents of close to 4000 religions across the globe believe they are right, convinced that every single one of the others are wrong. The same certainty with which the men of yore concluded smallpox was a disease from God, or was a result of ‘Karma’ and therefore asserted with certainty that finding a solution was going against the will of God or nature. A cure was found for smallpox and for many other diseases, which according to many who denounced the research for a cure, ‘emanated from ‘God’ or was a result of ‘Karma’. Be it the concept of heaven and hell or reincarnation, in explaining life after death- human beings of either spectrum have convinced themselves that they are aware of an ultimate truth and believe it with certainty. But therein lies the oxymoron. Belief is a paradox in itself and an absurd one at that. ‘Belief’ stems from insecurity. If one was to know something as true or fact, there is no need of ‘belief’. We don’t ‘believe’ that the sun will rise in the morning. The sun will rise in the morning, as it has for the millions of years before us. One needs to ‘believe’ or have ‘faith’ only when one is uncertain. Accordingly although belief/faith is a product of knowledge and social construct it inherently contains the possibility of uncertainty: the possibility of ‘disbelief’, as Hazelton so eloquently describes.

The human mind is constantly in search of a linear narrative: attempting to make sense of what is and what is not is a constant preoccupation. While the ascetic Muslims recitals and chants remained the symbol of the path towards knowledge, the Buddhist monk remained the symbol in the quest for such knowledge, to me.

As much as the spiritual quest remains, the hope for political salvation- the material (loukika) seems further and further away. Since the end of a bloody war, in which one side were named the victor, Sri Lanka has driven herself into turmoil. The war remained the constant through which the human minds need for the ‘other’ was embodied. The end of it signified the beginning of the material mind to find another ‘other’. This was for the essential materialist, who unfortunately took the helm in the need to find the other- with the Saffron Robes intact, the robes which were to the larger world and those at home -the symbol of tranquility and equanimity. While the majority of the country slept in peace, there remained the mind which didn’t. A mind which runs amok, and meanders in constant paranoia. A paranoia driven by hate and fuelled by vengeance. It would be foolish to think that this mind is confined to the undermentioned, but they were the visible frontier of fear mongering and hate fuelling.

What was essentially a movement which gathered pace due to the support by the urban businessmen to counter- what they perceived the new ‘others’ encroachment in their endeavors- has over time evolved into a paranoia that has been solidified in public consciousness. The movements’ initial slogans drew parallels with the calls in Nazi Germany. “Boycott” the shops owned by Muslims. Only yesterday, social media was rife with ‘news’ which said a Muslim owned store had sprayed female underwear in an attempt to curtail birth rates of Sinhalese women, and thus called for the immediate boycotting of the store. This is not a new cry, and has been a consistent tag line since the inception of the movement. Of course this tagline is not based on fact or evidence, mass hysteria often isn’t.

It is those that possess or justify such paranoia- that fall within the ambit and scope of the definition of the Post War Sinhala Buddhist (PWSB), coined in the previous essay.  The racist, bigoted xenophobe who found salvation at the annihilation of one enemy and had to create another. It attempts to define, a militarist, fascist and loud movement, the likes of which the nationalists’ movement pre and post colonialism had not seen. This as detailed previously, does not include nationalists Sinhalese who are protective of the only Sinhala Buddhist state in the world and who cherish its identity remaining so. Only the extreme and the warped could use such clear distinction provided in the previous essay to further and distort it to include the definition to mean “All Sinhala Buddhists who live in post war Sri Lanka”. The distinction between Buddhism as a philosophy, to use the closest western adjective, and Sinhala Buddhism as a political embodiment is also understood. However, the ‘Post War Sinhala Buddhist’, as defined, supersedes these boundaries. If Nietzsche, Orwell, Hegel or even Trotsky were to analyse this phenomenon they would be marveled at the usurpation of what they termed ‘nationalism’.  It remains the only term through which, monks in Saffron Robes, laity, and the educated but post war emboldened fascist could be described. As such it’s used to define the fascist tendencies of a movement that continues to gain ground, largely among Sinhala Buddhist youth active on social media.

Was this fear mongering without good reason, and have the Muslims always been the innocent victim seem to be the questions that are asked. If one was an observant reader of my previous columns in these pages, the reader would be aware the detailing and description of the threat posed by Islamic fundamentalism. The need to address such is incumbent upon the Muslim intellectuals, and intelligentsia which have over the years not been active in curtailing the fundamentalism as would have been ideal.

There remains a section of the Lankan Muslim polity, who in their carved realms, believe that a strict literal interpretation of scripture, practice and ritual is required- and in their outward expression of such conviction- have sympathized with the actions of the Islamic State (IS), justified the whipping of a Muslim girl in Puttalam, and banished a female poet from the East who called for the legalization of Prostitution, among others.

I use these examples as symbols, which are in no way meant to confine these expressions only to the above. The demand that is now in the public domain, dominated by a section of the males within the Muslim community, is to continue the validation of an archaic and pre modern aspects of a Law which should and could have no place in modern society. A Law ideally which should have been abolished decades ago, all stemming from a warped interpretation of scripture. It is this same interpretation that has resulted in the rise in the adorning of the Nikab- a pre Islamic costume of the Hejaazi desert in which Islam was born. It would however, be naïve to believe that these interpretations were suddenly thrust upon the Muslims of Sri Lanka. The Iraqi invasion, and the resultant constant conflict the Middle East have been engulfed in, have most certainly had its impact. For if one’s belief is not providing answers to the sufferers as promised: they are not adhering to the faith in the manner prescribed and the suffering is as a result of this non adherence- is almost always throughout history, the narrative that is put forth to believers of any religion. The Wahabi and Salafist networks spearheaded by Saudi Arabia and ably funded by Qatar, supported by the American empire has drawn support as a result of this perceived lack of ‘adherence’.

“God’s wrath falls on us because we are straying away from God” is the cry through which the educated and the uneducated confine their intellectual prowess and resort to literal interpretations. This is true of Sri Lanka presently. The international and sectarian dynamics of the violence in the Middle East is not addressed in this essay but these warped interpretations have, in the existing political context of the Middle East resulted in “Killing in the name of God”. Such is the power of ignorance and blind faith. Again, this is not the sole construct of the adherents of the Islamic faith. Throughout history symbols, religion, and nationalism has been usurped by different sects, religions, and fascists to further their perverted narratives.

But there is a point that needs to be made. On social media there run many photographs of “Pre and Post – Libya, Iran, Iraq, Afghanisthan” etc. Often times those who share these photos are under the mistaken belief that the Muslims occupied these countries in the 1990’s after which all liberalism vanished. That again reeks of pure ignorance. All these countries, formed an integral part of the early conquests and for centuries were under Muslim rule, with all forms of religious expression, individual freedom intact as was possible during those times of rule- until the ‘Talibanisation’ of that part of the world. The threat to curb such liberalism, culturally, has taken roots in parts of Sri Lanka, within sections of the Muslim community. It is this strict literal interpretation that must be fought ideologically, because – the literal interpretation of text, practices and rituals- is the source, and the source must be addressed. A clear way of which is to understand and educate on the socio politics of religion, theology, history and most importantly the evolution of the different stages of the interpretation of the text, practices and rituals. Education into these areas and socio, economic and political conditions which propelled the interpretations in the past, is the most potent way of addressing and overcoming the existing fundamentalism. Denial after denial of such fundamentalism only symbolizes ignorance. To any observer, there is a visible shift in the actions and attitudes of a growing section among the Muslims in Sri Lanka.

However, do these interpretations and practices warrant such violent reaction from a section of the majority- identified as the PWSB? As detailed in my previous essay it does not. It does not call for such a violent, alienating and exterminating threat. The real victims as of now, are the Muslims themselves and the fundamentalism that is espoused among a section of the Muslim polity in Sri Lanka has got very little, if nothing, to do with the State or the annihilation of Sinhala Buddhists and other races. Instead it seeks to confine and limit the expressions and practices of the Muslims.  But the fear mongers are fascists, who believe in the annihilation of every other different race and culture which exist in the country. The excuse, for them, an excuse which has been fed down to evolve into mass consciousness is ‘fundamentalism’ among the Muslims. But that excuse reeks of hypocrisy and deceit. If those shouting their throats hoarse with anti-Muslim hate were altruistic, the need of the hour would be to help the Muslim community address these issues. Instead the threat of annihilation is on all Muslims. “Let’s start from Maligawaththa and finish them all off”- is the cry.  The fascism has extended beyond too. There is a constant call by these fascists for the rest of the communities to ‘fall in line’, culturally. The beauty of Sri Lanka rests in its diversity and as one of the unintended heroes of the PWSB, Lt. Gen Daya Rathnayaka points out “The beauty of this country is that in the same street you have a Temple a Kovil, a Mosque and Church. That is the identity of this country”. The PWSB doesn’t not understand that the likes of Gen. Rathnayaka, a proud nationalist, among many others do not condone the fascism sprouted by this loud movement.

However, it is these tendencies of intolerance, forcefulness and rigidity which lead to the conclusion that the PWSB and the Muslim Fundamentalist are in fact, two sides of the same coin. Constantly feeding each other in their warped endeavors, silencing the inclusive moderates, advocating and creating suspicion among the two communities. Although the end goal seems different, the results are one and the same.

I don’t find the need to respond to the recent ‘response’ to my previous essay rife with selective statistics picked out from thin air, and interpretations given out like a bigoted justifier of violence would- covering the fascism with the excuse of ‘fundamentalism’.  But I remind the Kalama Suthra to the PWSB, to question the fascist narrative put forth, and to the Muslims I reintroduce the intellectual powerhouses which formed the bedrock of Islam, Ibn Rushd, Ibn Arabi, Ibn Kuldoom Ibn Sina, Sarraj who wrote the famed ‘ Kitab A Luma’ ( Book of Flashes) or the 9th century mystic Junaid, among many others, who kept true to the spirit of the transcendental zeal and questioned the nature and the beauty of the mystery that is the ‘Universe’ and explored the concept of God. They did not blindly believe in a human like interventionist man up in the sky who insists on reward and punishment, with a notebook in hand hovering over the mundane day to day activities of humans, who are only a minute fraction among the vastness of the creation. Such a concept at best describes no one but an insecure dictator of a third world state.

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    Hafeel Farisz, has understood the Buddha’s Teaching Better than all these commenting Sinhala/Buddhists, born to Buddhist Families.

    They have grown Up thinking that the Rituals and Outward Exhibitions of Dane’ etc. constitute what The Dhamma is all about.

    Religion or ‘Agama’ has taken over from the True Practice of Dhamma!

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      There is an external dimension to the attack on Muslims in Sri Lanka and South Asia – do not forget.

      Today the US is talking of “like minded nations” at the Galle Maritime Conference in Sri Lanka and painting a dire picture of imminent ISIS threat in Indian Ocean. This is in order to militarize the region, establish naval bases, and sell weapons to countries like Sri Lanka and militarizing the entire region.

      This is a dangerous WASTE of funds and energy which should be spent on innovative approaches poverty reduction, education, health and research and development and should be countered immediately.

      The Terrorism discourse, industry and National Security mindset that go together is promoted by US security experts is really to protect the Global 1 percent and US corporations, while spreading religious and ethnic conflicts around the world.

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        Dinuk, Agreed.

        As I have always maintained, the USA is run by Weapons Manufacturers; the President is only a Puppet!

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        ISIS is ther own creation. So, they may use some muslims for some fire fights in the Indian Ocean. After that, they are all over the indian ocean to control ISIS.

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          Jim Shitty, you racist scoundrel and lowlife scum this is Ceylon. Not your Lion state!!! Everyone who lives there has rights whether you like it or not. You can sit on the sidelines and cry all you want you dumb fu&k, but the people will exercise their rights wherever in Ceylon.

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            Tamil from the north

            A typical Dali Tamil. Why don’t you come to Tamilnadu instead of Sinhala.

            YOu will be just garbage in Tamilnadu.

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      Hafeel Farisz

      “There remains a section of the Lankan Muslim polity, who in their carved realms, believe that a strict literal interpretation of scripture, practice and ritual is required- and in their outward expression of such conviction- have sympathized with the actions of the Islamic State (IS), justified the whipping of a Muslim girl in Puttalam, and banished a female poet from the East who called for the legalization of Prostitution, among others.”

      “The certainty has evolved into an unbridled conviction which adherents of close to 4000 religions across the globe believe they are right, convinced that every single one of the others are wrong.”

      Thanks for the well written article. “Religion is the Opium of the Masses”-Karl Marx. Some understand, some don’t.

      1. SINHALA BUDDHISM: Thre is a difference between Pristine Buddhism and the Sinhala Buddhism as it is practiced today in Sri Lanka.

      Buddhas did not want statues, images or trees to be worshiped. He wanted his philosophy, love of wisdom to be understood. What we have in Sri Lanka s Political Racist Buddhism.

      Wonder why there are hardly any Tamil Buddhists in Sri Lanka? What happened to the Jains? The Mahayana Buddhists?

      Sinhala Buddhism, is an insult to Buddhism. They even practice cast-ism.

      Mahavamsa- An Insult To The Buddha!By Sharmini Serasinghe

      https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/mahavamsa-an-insult-to-the-buddha/

      2. WAHHABI SALAFI ISLAM:

      They follow Satan, Devil, Iblis.

      Sufi Muslims and Shaia Muslims, Follow God, Allah.

      Al Azhar Scholar: ‘Wahhabism/Salafism is a Satanic Faith, the Horns of Satan’

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZOA3Ho9AUk&t=36s

      Hadith of Najd

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith_of_Najd

      Wahhabi sack of Karbala

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabi_sack_of_Karbala

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        Here we go again Amarasiri. So you pulled out your diatribe on Wahhabism et al from you Islam folder? I rather missed that Dead Sea scroll.

        As far as I am concerned, there is nothing called pristine Buddhism. Buddhism is just a nice and logical travesty built on a few fundamental assumptions that are flawed. The moment you realize that everything comes crashing down.

        Still I love the Buddha statues because they are great works of art. Gal Vihara is my favorite. I can sit and just look at them for hours on end without getting enough of it.

        Let someone try to destroy the Vihara like the Tigers threatened to and I will defend it with my life.

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          Edwin Rodrigo,

          “Let someone try to destroy the Vihara like the Tigers threatened to and I will defend it with my life.”

          But I thought you called yourself a coward?
          Are you a liar then, or both?

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            Lankan, “You cannot be a hero without being a coward”. (George Bernard Shaw)

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          EDWIN RODRIGO

          “Still I love the Buddha statues because they are great works of art. Gal Vihara is my favorite.”

          Many people love art. Many people love religion.Many people love myths. Many people love the truths.

          Keep them separate. Like Religion and Culture. Religion and Art.

          Do you need Art or Culture to get to Heaven, Hell, Purgatory, Nirvanna, Nibbana, Apaya etc, the human constructs?

          Good people do good things. Good people create good Art, good Culture, good Ethics.

          “The certainty has evolved into an unbridled conviction which adherents of close to 4000 religions across the globe believe they are right, convinced that every single one of the others are wrong.”

          To get good people to do bad things, it takes Religion. Sinhala Buddhism is no exception.

          EDWIN RODRIGO, can you tell us why there are hardly any Tamil Buddhists in Lanka, the Land of Native Veddah Aethho, as a percentage of the Tamil population, when Tamil Nadu has a higher percentage of Tamil Buddhists? Is it because there is BIG DIFFERENCE between Sinhala “Buddhism” and Pristine Buddhism?

          Buddhaghosa, the Tamil Buddhist Monk from Tamil Nadu, who was from South India, seems to have failed? Why?

          Monk Mahanama lies and imaginations in the Mahawamsa? Mahawamsa an Insult to Buddha?

          Buddhaghoṣa was a 5th-century Indian Theravada Buddhist commentator and scholar.His best-known work is the Visuddhimagga “Path of Purification”, a comprehensive summary and analysis of the Theravada understanding of the Buddha’s path to liberation. The interpretations provided by Buddhaghosa have generally constituted the orthodox understanding of Theravada scriptures since at least the 12th century CE. He is generally recognized by both Western scholars and Theravadins as the most important commentator of the Theravada.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhagho%E1%B9%A3a

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            Amarasiri,

            Q1: Do you need Art or Culture to get to Heaven, Hell, Purgatory, Nirvanna, Nibbana, Apaya etc, the human constructs?

            A1: I have no idea. I don’t believe there is any Heaven, Nirvana, Apaya etc. It is as if you asking me, Do you need Art or Culture to get to Nowhere.

            Q2: Good people do good things. Good people create good Art, good Culture, good Ethics.

            A2: My definition is: People who good things are called good people. People who create good Art, good Culture, good Ethics are also good people.

            Q3: To get good people to do bad things, it takes Religion. Sinhala Buddhism is no exception.

            A3: Agreed. Just read my comments on Kalama Sutta below. It is telling us to ignore all the knowledge and experience gained by mankind in the past and do what you like. It may have been OK in Buddha’s time but not 2,500 years later, when so much new knowledge has been accumulated.

            Q4: EDWIN RODRIGO, can you tell us why there are hardly any Tamil Buddhists in Lanka, the Land of Native Veddah Aethho, as a percentage of the Tamil population, when Tamil Nadu has a higher percentage of Tamil Buddhists?

            A4: Yes, I can. Please read my comment to Hafeel below Fatima. The reason is “Paccattam vedittabbo vinnuhiti” Dhamma is for the wise to understand and realize”. Conversely, Dhamma is not for those who are NOT vedittabbo. This means that statistically less Tamils would understand the Dhamma when compared with the Sinhalese. It is the IQ stupid! The IQ!

            Q5: Is it because there is BIG DIFFERENCE between Sinhala “Buddhism” and Pristine Buddhism?

            A5: Definitely NO! The reason is obvious to anyone who has even a few more brain cells than a Kalaveddah. It is the cold salt water stupid! I have been saying here that most of the Kallathonis arrived here swimming across the Palk Strait. The cold sea water, with a TDS* in excess of 500 has gone in to their brains permanently affecting their genes. Even the off spring is affected.

            Q6: Buddhaghosa, the Tamil Buddhist Monk from Tamil Nadu, who was from South India, seems to have failed? Why? blah blah…..:

            A6: Buddhaghosha was not a Tamil. Even he were, who cares. The important thing is he was not a swimmer. Buddhaghosha was not a smart man. His strength was in remembering things. A natural gift got strengthened due to reading the Vedas. All the Abrahamic religions consider memorizing the Holy Books and reciting them over and over again as a sign of intelligence. If that is the case a 2 TB hard disk containing all those stanzas in mp3 files should be revered as the most intelligent.

            Buddhaghosha was a vain person, who liked fame. Unlike those academics who attach all those degrees etc. after their names, Buddhaghosha attached literally hundreds of names to himself. That way, one has to appreciate Buddha, who was known simply as Gautama. Anyway, the man wanted to rise above Buddha. His criticism of Theravada must be seen in that context.

            Is it not a big irony that Buddhaghosha is known for all those books he wrote giving his ‘enlightened’ theories on the Dhamma, when the Buddha was saying in Kalama Sutta, ‘Ignore the books’?

            * TDS – Total Dissolved Solids

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              EDWIN RODRIGO

              “This means that statistically less Tamils would understand the Dhamma when compared with the Sinhalese. It is the IQ stupid! The IQ! “

              Thanks for your answers. Amarasiri will defer to Kalama Sutta with respect to your answers.

              Anyway, applying Kalama Sutta to your answer on Tamil and Sinhala IQ’s, it does not fit.

              After all, both the Sinhala and Tamils are Paras, Paradeshis in the Land of Native Veddah Aethho. In addition to their low and close IQ’s, they are also genetically related with genes from Bharat, Damba-Diva, India.See the IQ Data below. In fact the Indian IQs, in Tamil Nadu are 81 compared to the Sri Lankan IQ of 79.

              Therefore, there ks another factor at play here. What is it? The lies and Imaginations pf Monk Mahanama in the Mahawamsa?

              Could it be that the Para-Sinhala are less intelligent than the Para-Tamils, and were more likely to beieove the lies ad imginations of Monk Mahanama in the Mahawamsa? Remember Kalama Sutta?

              National IQ Scores – Country Rankings. Remember Kalama Sutta?

              The intelligence scores came from work carried out earlier this decade by Richard Lynn, a British psychologist, and Tatu Vanhanen, a Finnish political scientist, who analysed IQ studies from 113 countries, and from subsequent work by Jelte Wicherts, a Dutch psychologist.

              http://www.photius.com/rankings/national_iq_scores_country_ranks.html

              Remember Kalama Sutta?

              Mitochondrial DNA history of Sri Lankan ethnic people: their relations within the island and with the Indian subcontinental populations

              Through a comparison with the mtDNA HVS-1 and part of HVS-2 of Indian database, both Tamils and Sinhalese clusters were affiliated with Indian subcontinent populations than Vedda people who are believed to be the native population of the island of Sri Lanka.

              http://www.nature.com/jhg/journal/v59/n1/full/jhg2013112a.html

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              Mr.Edwin Rodrigo

              You are a master narrator.Thoroughly enjoyable, and informative .

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              Is that the reason you have a low IQ and your brain got affected? As your Tamil Paravan Rodrigo Kallathoni ancestors had to swin across the Palk Strait from Thootukudi to Thalai Mannar?

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                Thootukudi Paravan, you probably hate swimming, don’t you? So how did you arrive here? As a member of the Monkey army of Hanumantha?

                That explains why donkeys like you who worship monkeys. It was thanks to God Hanumantha that you could escape hell on Earth aka Tamil Nadu to Sri Lanka, the paradise island? A donkey would never have made it alone.

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                  But you have admitted that your family are from a Catholic Tamil family from Thootukudi Tamil Nadu now masquerading here as a Sinhalese Buddhist nationalist and beating the anti Tamil drum, just like many of the recent Indian Tamil origin so called Sinhalese Karawa, Salagama, Durawe, Huni Hali on this forum and every where else.

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          Edwin Rodrigo,

          “Buddhism is just a nice and logical travesty built on a few fundamental assumptions that are flawed”

          Can you please explain the “logical travesty and fundamental assumptions in Buddhism that are flawed”? Would be interesting to learn from you

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            TOB depends on the tripod of (1) Rebirth, (2) Karma and (3) Dukkha nature of existence as its foundation. As you know, a tripod is a highly stable structure as long as the 3 legs are structurally sound. take any one of them out and the whole edifice comes down crumbling.

            In my opinion all 3 are flawed.

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              Edwin, you mean well but your understanding is flawed. The three things you mention are not conditions one has to accept to be Buddhist, they are not articles of faith.

              The Buddha did not teach ‘Buddhism’ and certainly not ‘Sinhala-Buddhism’. He taught dhamma – the truth about the real nature of things. This discovery of his is available for others to ‘see for themselves’ if they try out his method of training the body and mind.

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                Sorry, Paul. I respect you right to have an opinion. But I am reluctant to discuss the subject in this forum because we will be spending a long time typing back and forth.

                May I suggest that you give me the references so I can look up?

                Regarding my ideas I cannot give you any direct references because they are mainly bases on my own ideas.

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                  Thank you Edwin. You are right, these matters would take up a lot of typing. My opinions and yours, are just that, opinions. They are not right nor wrong. But they are opinions from a warped perspective. You can read and hear more about these matters here –

                  http://www.amaravati.org/speakers/ajahn-sumedho/?fpmtp_audio_languages=english

                  and here –

                  http://cittaviveka.org/index.php/teaching/articles

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                    Thanks a lot. I am an atheist but I like to read about all religions and indulge in the study of Comparative Religion.

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                      EDWIN RODRIGO

                      “I am an atheist but I like to read about all religions and indulge in the study of Comparative Religion.”

                      Sinhala “Buddhism” has confused you. You have turned Buddha, the Philosospher, into a God, an Imaginary God.

                      Then, you should enjoy the following Video. Have you heard about the Big Banbg?

                      Why We Believe in Gods – Andy Thomson – American Atheists 09.

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iMmvu9eMrg&t=757s

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              I wonder how you became full time commentator to CT, while working for your job. Edwin appu, are u alright ? I think yours are fine, but you should read the article fully so that you can add your thoughts accordingly. Just adding like ” koheday yanne malle pol” can not help anyone- most of them are grasseaters, so you have to be very clear about what you are trying to say. Just having read it between lines cant help you dear. THanks.

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                Bunjappu, These days the 5th fleet is not very active since it is the transition period from Obama to Trump. I just kill time by commenting in CT instead of helping to kill the ‘bad’ guys. But, like all sanskara dharmas, it is going to come to and end soon. Then I will disappear from CT leaving you guys lamenting. As Buddha says, Pemati jayati Soko. (it is sorrowful to be separated from your dear ones). But then, you have to accept it since it is in the nature of Samsara – Dukkha, where things do not happen the way you want.

                I would like to read the article. You will see that I have gone through 3 paras very carefully even correcting huge mistakes. But I need a rest after that trek. The going was tough. Most of it is not in English or not in the English that we call English. I feel that the whole thing is built out of riddles, encrypted using RSA encryption code, one of the most difficult to break and finally written in a foreign language.

                And the author calls himself a Royalist. If that is the case why are all these parents trying to make all schools Royals? It would be better to make them Sunday schools. At least then, the kids will learn Dhamma, Islam or Christianity. To me murder means even Murdering the language.

                Can you please translate para 3 & 4 for me. If you set that example, may be others would follow.

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                  I think it is the name of the school only. That has nothing to do with the term ” Royalist” get to hear in UK or Europe. Lankens just enjoy by being able to name them after the school each of them went to. This is the colombo culture. Even more proudly women woudl share it if they went to St Bridget con.. no matter they failed to earn a basic degree, what matters is the school they were sent to. That is srilanken labels.

                  I will get back to you next, sorry, being caught by thousands of tasks for this day – have no time to translate it for you sir. Colder weathers almost kill us here. take care se eu laters.

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                    Yes, yes, we also had guys met in various kind of european forums. The frequency of repeating their labels are more once they have nothing in their heads. Meaning, once you dont have achieved anything acedmically, they talk all highs about them being royals. That became evident to me after talking to them each meeting.

                    I dont think that the writer belongs to the category, in his context, he should add about his past that way.

                    Most among that repeated to have gone to Royal college or any other popular schools make every effort to stand out where they are. I really dont know why ?

                    Sadly most of them behave far lower to royals; discriminatingly against minorities Muslims and Tamils.
                    All these labels can work for them within Srilanka but not beyond lanken bounderies.

                    And the article is well written and a good analysis for all walks of lankens.

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        Stupid Amarasiri,

        1.Karl Marx was referring to European Christianity when he said “religion is the opium of the people”. But I agree it can apply to other religions as well especially to those who advocate going to heaven in the next life when they are exploiting/enslaving/screwing their own people in this life!!

        Particularly relevant to Pharaohs in ancient Egypt who needed cheap/slave labour (eg Moses and the Jews) to build their vainglorious pyramids and Hindu Brahmins who also needed/created outcastes etc to clean their toilets and Spanish catholics who worked to death 9 million Bolivians (yes nine million!!)in the silver mines of Potosi. They all go to heaven in the next life. Pure bull shit.

        2.I remember reading last year or so, that there is a Tamil Buddhist society in Jaffna and there are 20,000 or so Tamil Buddhists in Sri Lanka. The minister Mano Ganesan was very upset and was losing a lot of sleep on hearing that.

        Historically Tamils have tried to destroy Buddhist cities in Sri Lanka, Anuradhapura and Poloonaruwa spring to mind. So it is illogical to expect Tamils to be to be Buddhists when they are predisposed to inflicting pathological violence against Buddhists.

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          How is heaven and hell different from nirvana or reincarnation ? It’s simply a belief. The same thing.. jusmlike you would use your knowledge of the pitaka, the judeo Christian tradition uses revelation. At the end no one knows if it’s true exc to some kind of faith or belief. One can’t say the other is wrong. I think those are the most pertinent questions raised in this article more than anything else’s. this nonsensical certainty which has warped our minds and made us bigots. The true teaching if the dhamma is far beyond this. To be here, now, to silence the mind. That we can experience, the rest we cannot say with any certainty. Your mithyadrushtika bawaya is the same as anyone else.

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            Mediating Buddhist

            “How is heaven and hell different from nirvana or reincarnation ? It’s simply a belief.”

            Yes. Intuitive Reasoning, compromise and belief.

            All religious ideas have supernatural template.

            Why We Believe in Gods – Andy Thomson

            Uploaded on Apr 23, 2009

            Andy Thomson gives his talk titled ‘Why We Believe in Gods’ at the American Atheist 2009 convention in Atlanta, Georgia.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iMmvu9eMrg

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          Stupid “Good” Student,

          Is Religion the Opium of the People?

          Karl Marx famously said, “Religion is the opium of the people.” But what did he mean by this?

          Is Religion oppressive. Yes. It maintains the status Quo of Sinhala Buddhists, and justify political power, and social control.

          So, it was not attractive to Tamils.

          Remember, Mahawamsa is full of lies and imaginations of monk Mahanama.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHxiMNvdWdA&t=5s

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      There is a greater difference between those who find their relgions through their own search and the others that just be part of the relgion just because their families belong to it. The latter category of adherents are the majority in the country regardless of the religious beliefs in our country.
      I have met europeans that have changed their own theological beliefs through their own study. Today, significant numbers in Europe are becoming buddhists. They respect more buddhism since a part of buddhism – which is meditation related areas seem to help them inner harmony in stressful life styles of the day. May also be possible, that buddhism per se explains that you yourself have to find your way make europeans more meaningful than anything else, that is the main reason may be them to join buddhism that way. None of other religions would leave such spaces and ones that become Islam through own study seems to be not many in numbers. I also know Iranians or arabs that have entered to bi-national marriages, just because of the love towards their partners have become muslims. Latter has nothing to do with the religion but more to stay as one unit after being married.

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      Hamlet Nangiye,
      Whoever whatever being said and done in terms of reglions in the country, most of us have not studied the relgions before being part of them. Just because of our parents belong to Buddhism, we the offsprings of them became buddhists. SO were non-buddhists too. I believe, those who really do study, the way the writers did – we can become good buddhists, good islamists, good christians than we have been. That can then help us all equally for our own. Relgion is to guide us the human beings for right and wrongs right? Although there are also billions without a religion get them guided somehow… that is in China.

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      Dear Writer, I like the article very much. I think it is high time all youth to rethink about their religions as you have done it. More we know about the religions, much better we can apply it healthily to our day today life.I know most that behave extremist dont have pure knowledge of anything about the religions are saying, but being addicted to their own versions, they make efforts to live up their versions. All religions have more in common than contra – that is one can guide it for a healthy life. Those who make high crimes are just men and women that dont respect any religions. We also have ones that pretend to be religious – that may be the majority among all – but they do more harm to them and others only.

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      Hamlet

      “Religion or ‘Agama’ has taken over from the True Practice of Dhamma!”

      Hence let us liberate Buddha’s teaching (Buddhism) from the Sinhala/Buddhism.

      Hence let us liberate Buddhists from the Sinhala/Buddhists.

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        Native (fake) Vedda,

        If your violent Tamil ancestors had not attacked us for well over a millennium there would be no Sinhala Buddhist nationalism. Then there would no need to liberate Buddhism from the Sinhala Buddhists.

        It is the Tamil invasions from Tamil Nadu area attacking (from about 200 BC to 1000 AD) our Sinhala Buddhist cities of Anuradhapura and looting and wiping it out and then when we built Pollonnaruwa wiping that out as well, Christian Portuguese, Dutch and British invasions that are the root causes of Sinhala Buddhist nationalism. BEFORE THAT THERE WAS NO SINHALA BUDDHIST NATIONALISM. YOU ANCESTORS CREATED IT!!

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          Chingkallams did not build Anuradhapura or Polonaruwa. Chingkalam or Sinhalese only evolved as a proper language around 8-9AD. Anuradhapura was built by Buddhist and Hindu Tamil speaking Dravidian Naga and Tamil kings and the Pollonanaruwa was built by the Tamil Chola dynasty from South India. All the best ruins in the island both Hindu and Buddhist are in Polonarruwa and it was built by the Tamil Chola empire around the 10AD and now the Sinhalese as usual are falsely portraying this as theirs. The King who converted to Buddhism had a Tamil father King Mutta Sivan

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            Dear “Good” student and “Bad” student,

            Both the Sinhala, Chingkallams and Tamils, Demalas, Thamullams, are Paradeshis, Paras, in the Land of Native Veddah Aethho. Therefore they should be correctly referred to as

            Para-Sinhala, Para-Chingkallams, Para-Tamils, Para-Demalas and Para-Thamullams.

            The Vedda Tribe

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f89NuukY32U&t=405s

            Tamil-speaking Veddas of Vaharai await war recovery support

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeFCuZwexRw

            Through a comparison with the mtDNA HVS-1 and part of HVS-2 of Indian database, both Tamils and Sinhalese clusters were affiliated with Indian subcontinent populations than Vedda people who are believed to be the native population of the island of Sri Lanka.

            http://www.nature.com/jhg/journal/v59/n1/full/jhg2013112a.html

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        NATIVE;

        Last line is very important.

        But most that appeared to be real buddhists seem to be doing nothing against SINHALA/Buddhists.

        I believe, those who practise real buddha teachings intend their thoughts to be taken ground by nature since they are gentle sorta of people, that practise non-violence.

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      Hafeel Farisz

      “But I remind the Kalama Suthra to the PWSB, to question the fascist narrative put forth, and to the Muslims I reintroduce the intellectual powerhouses which formed the bedrock of Islam, Ibn Rushd, Ibn Arabi, Ibn Kuldoom Ibn Sina, Sarraj who wrote the famed ‘ Kitab A Luma’ ( Book of Flashes) or the 9th century mystic Junaid, among many others, who kept true to the spirit of the transcendental zeal and questioned the nature and the beauty of the mystery that is the ‘Universe’ and explored the concept of God. They did not blindly believe in a human like interventionist man up in the sky who insists on reward and punishment, with a notebook in hand hovering over the mundane day to day activities of humans, who are only a minute fraction among the vastness of the creation. Such a concept at best describes no one but an insecure dictator of a third world state.”

      Thanks. Succinctly stated.

      The Kālāma Sutta is also used for advocating prudence by the use of sound logical reasoning arguments for inquiries in the practice that relates to the discipline of seeking truth, wisdom and knowledge whether it is religious or not. In short, the Kālāma Sutta is opposed to blind faith, dogmatism and belief spawned from specious reasoning. This is philosophy, love of wisdom, and summarizes the core of Buddhist Philosophy. So, it is not much different from the Greek Philosophy, and Islamic Philosophy, and the scientific method of inquiry, before accepting a hypothesis.

      Need to put up two Tables, so that people can compare and contrast.

      Table I. Pristine Buddhism Vs. Sinhala “Buddhism”

      Mahavamsa- An Insult To The Buddha!By Sharmini Serasinghe

      https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/mahavamsa-an-insult-to-the-buddha/

      Buddha Vs. Mara (Satan)

      Table II. Pristine Islam Vs. Wahhabi-Salafi “Islam”

      Table III. Sufi Islam Vs. Wahhabi-Salafi “Islam”

      Allah Vs. Iblis, Satan

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith_of_Najd

      The Age of reason and enlightenment has not yet arrived for Muslims and Sinhala Buddhists, yet. Why?

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        Amarasiri,

        May I suggest one more table?

        3 columns:

        Column 1 in Buddha varsha starting with 1 up to now with some blanks to take us up to 2,600.

        Column 2: The threat faced by TOB due to invasions. internal conspiracies etc.

        Column 3: The reaction of the Sinhala Buddhists for each threat.

        You will then see the achievements SB in the face of these threats.

        As long as the 4 fold Devas are there, we will be safe, that TOB will be safe and the Gal Vihara will be safe.

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        Amarasiri (K): “ Amarasiri will defer to Kalama Sutta with respect to your answers”.

        Edwin (E): This discussion is doomed for failure from the start. If you want to discuss something constructively you have to start from some common ground. Kalama Sutta is not common ground because I consider it as a trick played by Buddha on the gullible. He said; don’t believe in books well knowing that there were no Buddhist books at that time. This way, he was able to eliminate a whole host of other doctrines like Vedas that had books, while TOB was only committed to memory of a few like Ananda.

        On the other hand, in your new found enthusiasm, you seem to consider Kalama Sutta as Gospel Truth. Thus there is no common ground.

        Anyway I will continue just to humour you.

        (K): “Anyway, applying Kalama Sutta to your answer on Tamil and Sinhala IQ’s, it does not fit”.

        (E)The Sinhalese IQ is diluted by that of the Kallathonis whose brains are soaked with salt water. We as followers of Gaban Atha, do not care two hoots about IQ. The measure has been devised by people with a PVV (paccatam vetitabbo Vinnuhiti) index that is not up to the mark. Please go to the following site to get everything about PVV index.

        uww.gabanatha.com.andromeda /PVV/SL (Note that uww is not a typo. It means universe wide web)

        Those with a PVV index higher than that of kalaveddahs are allowed to access the site. So, you should not have any problem in accessing.

        On DNA evidence we find that the Native Veddahs have evolved from kalaveddahs and not from hothambuwas as some experts would have it. Though Native Veddahs are considered as sub humans the Gaussian Distribution of the PVV indices of the two species overlap slightly. (i.e.) The low outliers of homosapiens overlap with the high outliers of Native Veddahs.

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      Hafeel Farisz

      RE: On The Need For Introspection: The Rise Of Intolerance & Warped Narratives

      Revelation, Reason, Observation, Beliefs, Kalama Sutta and the Scientific Method.

      Age of Reason and Enlightenment.

      Psychology of Religion and Adaptations from our past.

      Why We Believe in Gods – Andy Thomson – American Atheists 09.

      Did we evolve or created? Why do we have minerals in our bodies made 8 billion years ago in supernovas?

      Uploaded on Apr 23, 2009
      Andy Thomson gives his talk titled ‘Why We Believe in Gods’ at the American Atheist 2009 convention in Atlanta, Georgia.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iMmvu9eMrg

      Ken Miller on Human Evolution

      Uploaded on Feb 14, 2007
      Dr. Ken Miller talks about the relationship between Homo sapiens and the other primates. He discusses a recent finding of the Human Genome Project which identifies the exact point of fusion of two primate chromosomes that resulted in human chromosome #2.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi8FfMBYCkk

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      Hamlet and Hafeel Farisz,

      “Dane” is to give, to help anyone in need, almsgiving to the monks (but not necessarily restricted to the monks), to the poor, to orphanages, to the vulnerable. Essentially it is a form of redistribution of wealth within a society. To correct (in modern terminology) market failures. Market forces alone don’t provide the goods and services needed by societies especially health, education and defence.

      It is that giving attitude which lead, along with the desire to release living beings from suffering to the Buddhists establishing the first hospitals in the history of the world, way before the West. (there is some talk that pre Buddhist Sinhalese had already established the first hospitals in the World in Sri Lanka!). What happened to our ability to innovate?!

      Just because a couple of unpleasant Buddhist monks (who should be dealt with under the Public Order Act/breach of the peace)engage in un Buddhist activity does not mean most Buddhists in Sri Lanka agree with them. The stupid Batticaloa monk should have complained about the Muslims trying destroy Buddhist monuments in Deegawapi in Ampara, high birth rate amongst EP Muslims. He seems to have been set up.

      However there is a deep unease amongst Sinhalese Buddhists (and some Tamils as well)at the alarmingly high birth-rate amongst the Sri Lankan Muslims, the Muslim population of Sri Lanka having almost doubled over (and increasing)the last thirty years (1981 to 2011)in this small overcrowded island. A Muslim being able to marry a 12 year old girl in Sri Lanka, is one contributory factor.

      The second point is that Muslims control a very, very substantial portion of trade in Sri Lanka, disproportionate to their size. (Same problem in Burma).

      Add to this the influence of Wahabis etc from Saudi and elsewhere, the influence on Sri Lankan Muslim returnees from the middle east of Wahabis, Slafis etc, appalling atrocities committed by ISIS and the history of horrendous atrocities committed by Muslims against Buddhists in India (the destruction and wiping out of Nalanda University,(one of the greatest Universities and medical schools in the ancient world, Vikrmasila and Valabi) where Buddhist monk who practised non-violence were beheaded by the thousands, burning of Buddhist libraries and the more recent (2001) destruction of the Bamiyan Buddhas in Afghanistan, (yes Afghanistan was once a Buddhist country now an Islamic disaster)and the destruction of Buddhist monuments in Pakistan (2007),(yes Pakistan was once a Buddhist country, now an Islamic disaster)and the killing of a Buddhist monk this year in Bangladesh (yes Bangladesh was once a Buddhist country but now an Islamic disaster, get the message?!)and the attempted destruction of Buddhist monuments in Deegawapi in the Ampara district by Muslims, grabbing Kuragala hill by Muslims thugs, you get a very, very angst ridden, potentially explosive situation.

      The Sinhalese Buddhist kings (Rajasingha and Senarath)[like the wonderful Angela Merkel] offered refuge in Kandy and the Eastern province to the Muslims during the Portuguese catholic period when the Muslims were being persecuted by the good Catholics because the Muslims had persecuted the Catholics in Spain and Portugal. And some Muslims in Kandy (who dominate the trade there) are trying to dominate and destroy us by stealth. We never get credit for the good we have done. And we rescued the Muslims again when Prabhakaran ethnically cleansed Jaffna of Muslim at gunpoint in Oct 1990.

      Sri Lankan Buddhists feel that Muslims (and Tamils) make money out of the Sinhalese by selling goods and services to the Sinhalese community thereby getting very, very rich and try to destroy the very Buddhist society whose custom made them rich. Essentially abuse our tolerance and then blame us when we get upset.

      [Tamils have an appalling history of violence against the Sinhalese Buddhists , but that’s another unhappy story. See what happened to Anuradhapura and Pollonnaruwa, ask who built them and who destroyed them].

      Hamlet I hope you are better informed now.

      Hafeel Farisz I hope you now understand the root causes of why the Buddhists are upset. Thank you for your efforts with the Kalama Sutra. There are a lot more insightful sutras in the Sutra Pitake.

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        Good student who doesn’t seem to be learning. Please stop fear mongering, and read the Kalama sutta again. Compare the 1982 census with the census of 2011 and if I’m not mistaken the census of 2015. Take the census reports before that and open your eyes and see if there is any proportional increase in the number of Muslims. The rate of increase is just as it were. However, the racist in you, despite the know it all of all the suttas, want do that. Rather wel fear monger, and keep harping on nonsense and lead this country to another bloody war haven’t we had enough. It’s ithe poor Sinhalese, Tamils, Muslims and Christians who paid the price for the views espoused by people like you. Hiding behind tranquility but nothing of the pervertedness has left. And I am a good meditating Sinhala Buddhist. I deplore this fear mongering as much as I deplore the rising intolerance, extremism among them Muslims and the separatism among the Tamils.

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        Good Student (still learning):-

        “Dane” is to give, to help anyone in need, almsgiving to the monks (but not necessarily restricted to the monks), to the poor, to orphanages, to the vulnerable.

        Agreed ‘Good Student’.

        The problem is that Dane’ is understood by many Sinhala/Buddhists as Food and Robes given to Monks, whether they are following the Buddha or not.

        This is done with the Intention of Increasing the Accumulation of ‘Ping’.

        Alms to the Needy, creates more Maithree and Karuna in the Mind! which is More in accordance with the Buddha’s Dhamma.

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          Hamlet, Please do not try to mislead the Good Student who is trying his best to learn and don’t try to demean the Sangha by saying that some of them have to be left out from the dana as punishment for not following the Buddha.

          it is not for you to judge who is a good monk and who is a bad one. They are all putujjana and the putujjana whether robed or lay are not perfect. They all commit Akusala karma to some degree. If you want perfection then you have to wait until an Arahath turns up. Even then, you may not know because an Arahath does not advertise his state by installing LED’s around his head.

          Moreover, you give the invitation to the head priest of the the temple and tell him how many. He is the one who selects.

          If the head priest is well known to be a Dussela monk are you going to tell him, “hamuduruvane. Please send 10 monks but don’t come yourself’. you see what I am getting at? Don’t try that because you are going to get a good kick in the butt from him.

          These guys are well versed in Angampora so don’t try to resist. Or else you will be a living example of Ditta Dhamma Vedaniya Karma. In short hamlet is going to become an Omlette.

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          You are dead right, Hamlet. Dane is interpreted by many as – offering food and pirikara (Ata pirika and others too). Most of them the buddhist monks get everything today. I have seen them all along playing with smart phones while strolling (not really… like walking)in Bomaluwas of Kelaniya temple. Anyways, I will give alms giving more for the sake of our great monther. I did it last time too. Having done so again, I thought the best would be to offer them to the poor who are indeed in need. There, I may collect more pin for the sake of mage buduamma, who left us all of sudden. Even after we offered all these, some monks started criticising – for small things such let them wait 5 min longer etc. while the others went on focusing on ahara anubawa kireema. What i learnt last time is with all respect to offer the food and the rest to those who re really in need. My focus is – elderly people in orphanages and homes for children and handicapped ones who re really in need.

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        Tamils have a bad history of violence against Sinhalese Buddhists and that is another unhappy story! Your tendency to lie is some thing not to be happy about. Good students do not lie or post untruths. Tell me where any Tamil invader or king ancient past or modern have been cruel or violent towards the Sinhalese none. If fact the they built a lot of Buddhist structures in Anuradhapura Polonaruwa( Polonaruwa was founded by the Tamil Cholas) and in Kandy.

        It is the Sinhalese who have a history of violence against the Tamils. Made one million Indian origin Tamils stateless in 1949 and forcibly deported them to India, despite the fact they lived in the island for more than 150 years and produced most of its wealth. Started committing systematic state sponsored violence against the island’s Tamils from independence on regular basis and 1958 1960s 1977 1982 & 1983 and for the next 30 years. Resulting in the deliberate killing of more than 3000000 innocent Tamil civilians. Around 145000 in May 2009 and the displacement of 1.2 million indigenous Tamils from their homes and lands. Around a million of them fleeing the island to the west never to return , reducing the island’s Tamil population from around 26%-28% to 15%-16% within 60 years. If this is not systematic structural genocide and a war crime then what is it?
        They discriminated the Tamils in every sphere education employment language use and used government force to grab over 30% of ancient historic Tamil lands in the north and east of the island and settled them with Sinhalese. The east that was predominantly Tamil around the 1970s in now only 40% Tamil due to large scale killing/ethnic cleansing of Tamils and settlement of Sinhalese in the last 50 years.
        Even now there is a racist occupying Sinhalese armed force and police that is committing violence on the Tamil population and encouraging out of area Buddhist and Muslims extremists to commit violence and steal lands from the native indigenous Tamils. We recently saw a video of this regarding a mad extremist Buddhist monk and the passive encouraging attitude of the Sinhalese Police.

        You commit genocide war crimes against the island’s Tamils and still continue to do so and continue to do so and have the audacity to claim Tamils were violent towards the Sinhalese. Racist wanker

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      This is what I always feel whenever Europeans keep me asking about some facts on buddhist teachings. Most among us have learnt not the basics of buddhism, but those who read and discover questioning themselves as to why…. learn more.
      Besides, as some commentators have added, only few parts of buddhism have been focused by young europeans. That is Meditation part. That seems to be giving them more energies in the stressful life styles. Yoga and meditation have been becoming almost every corners of GERMANY today. More you are into Yoga/Meditation, much better you seem to be shaping up your schedules.

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    Hafeel Farisz

    What intended to say, what you wrote; what we read and what we understood are all different things. Because, of that, you should post your former artciel again. Then we wyou rstand it differently.

    You have done some very good work.

    You haven’t explained what Marifa is. Probably nirvana and Fanna may be the same thing. Because, buddhist history says that Saudi arabia and middle asia upto Greece had buddhist influence. Even the rock in Mecca that you walk around is covering Lord Buddha’s Foot print. So, even if some wants to destroy it won’t happen for another 2500 years.

    Even though sinhala people talk manythings, I don’t think people ever harm other people what ever their belliefs are. Even the LTTE war was the vest last attempt for survival.

    Anyway, you would explain sunnis killing Shiites, Sinnis blowing up Lohamad’s ancient house, Jihad, Islamic martyrs getting 72 virgins, muslims killing christians, ISIS etc., as a decent religion. that should be other influence.

    Would you like if your father makes your mother a Zombie by comepletely covering with black cloths ?

    Have you dome the same thing to your wife and daughters.

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      Exactly, Jim, I cannot ask some of the questions that you have asked here because I am working in a Muslim country. I have to emphasize that it is perhaps the most tolerant Muslim country that I know of. In fact the government and the King practices more Ahimsa than in Buddhist countries. However, I may lose my job, which by the way, is worse than loosing my head, literally.

      There is an unfathomable chasm between Islam and other religions. The difference is not in the details of the doctrine. It is in the way non followers are treated.

      The author may have read how the commentators here go at the throat of other believers in their verbal duels. We cannot do the same thing with Islam. My Muslim friends here try to start religious discussions, which I refuse to get dragged in to. Reason: They themselves admit that even in this country someone can come from behind and behead me if he THINKS that I insulted Islam. The government will not do it. But they will not persecute anyone for doing it on a personal basis.

      On the other hand, the author must have seen how non-Muslims insult each other and indulge in verbal duels, something I have done and enjoyed doing to Hindus. But Real Siva Sankar Sarma (for instance) would not even imagine of murdering me. Perhaps, he may imagine giving me a good kick in the butt but not murder.

      This is my problem with Islam. No one can criticize Islam (Allah, Prophet or the Holy Book). Well, you can criticize, but you will be dead tomorrow. The Muslims on the other hand are encouraged to destroy anything that is not Islamic, like the Bahamian Buddha statues. Not only encouraged but offered hopes of getting the ultimate reward – Going to heaven.

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        EDWIN RODRIGO

        “There is an unfathomable chasm between Islam and other religions. The difference is not in the details of the doctrine. It is in the way non followers are treated.”

        This practice has changed over the years.

        Initially, only Arabs were allowed to be Muslims.Then others were let in.

        There were deep intellectual discussions until about 1,200 CE,and then the Ulema and Mullah took over, called Political Ulema Islam. That was the decline of Islamic, Science band Philosophy, and tolerance, which you see to this day. There were exceptions with the Ottoman Empire,and Ataturk Turkey etc.

        The Ulema selectively interpreted passages of the Quran to their advantage, while ignoring others. It was for cultural power and political power.

        It was a fight between Revelation and Reason and Observation.

        Stupidest Muslim Vs Neil Tyson – How ideology can ruin intellectual power

        Published on Nov 10, 2014
        This is not a debate between some Muslim and Neil Tyson. But this video shows the thinking of some very well educated 21’st century Muslim (I don’t know he is ignorant, stupid or dishonest. But he is one for sure) and Neil Tyson speaking in a lecture about how Muslims intellectual power ruined by an ideology.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyCxrL9-C84&t=205s

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        EDWIN RODRIGO

        “This is my problem with Islam. No one can criticize Islam (Allah, Prophet or the Holy Book). Well, you can criticize, but you will be dead tomorrow”

        This is the way, the Mullah ans Ulema maintain their hegemony. It is similar with Sinhala “Buddhist” Monks. Remember the Briusgh tourist with a Buddha Tatoo on her arm that was deported frtom Lanka, the Land of Native Veddah Aethoo, by the Para-Sinhala “Buddhists”?

        Here is an Alternate view by an Arab Intellectual. He is from your neck of the desert.

        Arab Intellectual – Muslim Failure

        Uploaded on Mar 13, 2009
        Former Dean of Islamic Law at Qatar University Abd Al-Hamid Al-Ansari Speaks Out in Support of US Presence in the Middle East.

        A refreshing and extremely rare admission of reality from the middle east. An arab muslim who unlike the majority concedes that the pathetic state of arabs is down to their own failings and not the fault of anyone else.

        Among other things Al-Hamid Al-Ansari speaks of the fantasy world arabs seem to inhabit concerning such things as their imaginary victories over Israel and touches on the marginilisation of women in muslim societies.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAPKYKhTp8U

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        Edwin,
        “Exactly, Jim, I cannot ask some of the questions that you have asked here because I am working in a Muslim country. I have to emphasize that it is perhaps the most tolerant Muslim country that I know of. In fact the government and the King practices more Ahimsa than in Buddhist countries.”
        I believe you are talking about Bahrain, am I right?
        What you say about criticizing Islam is true. You have to be VERY careful or you lose your head. Even Saudi Arabia does not persecute people for private religious activities. Even pork was sold, quite privately of course.
        But this aversion to too much free thinking applies to other religions too. Till recently, the Catholic Church had an index of forbidden books. Openly criticizing Church doctrine is still a sin.
        For a Buddhist, it is a deadly sin to speak ill of the Sangha, even including Gandasara. But as you say, you are allowed to keep your head.
        On the other hand , you could have put poor Jimmy out of his misery by telling him that even Saudi mothers are not covered up like zombies inside their houses. I believe the Abaya is for public use only .

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          old codger

          “For a Buddhist, it is a deadly sin to speak ill of the Sangha, even including Gandasara. But as you say, you are allowed to keep your head”

          It is the Triple Gem: Buddha, Dhamma, and Sanga, including BBS Ganasara.

          Buddhists need to change the Triple Gem to Double Gem: Buddha and Dhamma, and drop Ganasara and the Sanga, many of whom rape boys.

          Double Gem. This can then can be called Reformed Buddhism. The Sanga and Monks will behave and the boys will be safe.

          Child Abuse by a Monk in Habaraduwa

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNSC93mPs4I

          Buddhism The Great Evil — Part 1

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNOfTGSADdY&t=13s

          Buddhism The Great Evil — Part 2

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clcs2PSze0I

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      LTTE was last attempt for survival or power ?

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      Jim Softy

      Before anyone could explain the 72 virgins or the sunni shia internecine violence, please try and explain why two wars primarily initiated by Christianity professing countries result in the killing of 120 million people?

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    A profound essay that provoked much thought.

    The problems with all our religions is that they have stopped growing in terms of what we know now and what we are on the threshold of knowing and keep on knowing. The religions that were revolutionary and dynamic at their beginnings have become rigid and dogmatic with time. Religion is now the opium, Karl Marx called them , rather than a path to further evolution of the human mind. We are not seekers in a spiritual sense, but believers in something most do not comprehend in terms of what we know now. Our understanding of the concept of ‘God’ , the supposed uniqueness of mankind, the vastness of the universe and our place in it, have have not changed with time.

    The commercialized world of today, has made us make deals with ‘God’. In a world that is understanding the universe, its vastness and its wonderful laws and nature better through science- all too confusing for the many, religion has become a stable but unfortunate mooring. The principles that underline all religions are understood by the few, while the multitude live by belief and habit . Modern science and our religions have not grown in tandem. Modern science has revealed much an about us as humans and the universe, that have not impinged on our thoughts and religions yet. Commercialization of cultures has also created the need to cling on to a religious constant, for comfort.

    This is our tragedy today.

    Dr.Rajasingham Narendran

    I h

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      Tamil tragedy is not limited to Srilanka. It is of South Indian perennial existence.

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        What do you mean?

        Dr. RN

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          No need to take them serious. Some pathologically speak from the other end.

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    Dear Hafeel,

    /*

    Was Nirvana an ideal beyond definition although words have posited it within reality, the place in which the two or three dimensions of consciousness evaporates into the transcendental? What does it really mean to meet God? What did it really mean to attain Nirvana?

    */

    The Newtonian causality defines how one action causes a single, opposite reaction of equal scale.

    Similarly, the idea of you and me comes into existence due to multiple causes. Here multiple actions causes the self to come into being.

    Its almost the single universal causality that defines everything. Its called The Dependent Origination.

    Last night when the clock struck 3am where were you? If you weren’t dreaming, you would have neither felt time passing by nor existing in a certain space.

    The reason you did not feel time or space is because your consciousness weren’t projecting your existence via your senses at leaving you in timeline.

    There are 2 realities. The ultimate reality aka, Nirvana, Emptiness etc. So imagine at 3 am, nothing existed because your consciousness were not creating time and space. These 2 things comes into being when your consciousness is re-awaken in the morning.

    You wake up to the 2nd reality, the phenomenal reality. The phenomenal reality is a function of causes that keeps us alive. The causes are things like greed because it still wants to live and enjoy sensory stimuli.

    Introspect how your consciousness creates time and space. It thinks about the future sometimes with anxiety. It reflects about the past at times with aversion. It thinks the self exists in the present.

    So you have past, present and the future created inside your mind. Combine this with the space, then you will see mind is the creator – not god.

    The 4 stages Enlightenment is a gradual process of shutting down the phenomenal reality thereby entering into state of Nirvana or the ultimate peace.

    So imagine last night 3am you were at complete peace. The reason being, nothing existed not even time and space. Although when you woke up to the rat race, you feel the suffering of having to struggle with diseases, getting old and making a living.

    The Nirvna is the peace you enjoyed at 3am although as a permanent state.

    More here.

    https://vimeo.com/2293696
    https://youtu.be/pkqz7il2U7w

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      Dear Mr. Silva
      “So imagine last night 3am you were at complete peace. The reason being, nothing existed not even time and space. Although when you woke up to the rat race, you feel the suffering of having to struggle with diseases, getting old and making a living. The Nirvna is the peace you enjoyed at 3am although as a permanent state.”
      So, if we all took an overdose of sleeping pills, that would induce Nirvana? And we ought to kill our babies to stop them getting old? A strange philosophy.

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        The sleeping thing was only used for illustrative purposes only. It was used to show the emptiness that exist when there is no time and space.

        The emptiness that I am trying to portray is similar to things like infinity. Human intuition does not easily grasp such concepts easily as it is hard to imagine.

        Although one sleeps the mind is still active. It is indeed inaccurate. However, if you find a better example how one can demonstrate true emptiness let me know.

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      Nirvana is the overcoming of “Ignorance”.

      Interesting question is what is meant by “Ignorance”

      There is no God/Creator in Buddhism. We are dealing with UNCREATED REALITY. Buddhism is an atheistic/naturalistic religion. So are Jains, Taoists and Confucians.

      You have made some interesting comments De Silva. Well done.

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    Hafeez,

    Your article is too long for a busy man lie me to read completely. But I am happy and I thank Allah that you are still here with us, even after reading blasphemous material such as the Kalama Sutta, and none of your fellow Muslims have attempted to take the sure path to heaven by beheading an infidel.

    May Allah, all Merciful protect you!

    To the others: “one swallow doth not a spring make”.

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      Don’t talk like an inherent bigot. Read what is said. And no Muslims don’t do that, except for those who have been pummeled by the Americans, and the saudis who are again a part of that unholy trinity. There are 1.6billion Muslims across the world for godsake. And read what is said, don’t look at Islam with the eyes of what u see in movies and hear on news. There is an Islam that has been usurped in the last few decades. Take those glasses of please.

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        I hope you are right and I am wrong. it may not be happening in SL. But look at Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq and many other places.

        Or it may be that you guys want to finish off the fellow Muslims of other sects first and then turn on others. It looks like that, you guys hate the Muslims of other sects than infidels like me. In fact I am happy about it. I am not an immediate target.

        I will just ask you one question. Answer straight. My father was a Catholic and converted to Buddhism before I was born. What would have happened if he were a Muslim and converted to Buddhism? Would I still be here?

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          Edwin ask, “I will just ask you one question. Answer straight. My father was a Catholic and converted to Buddhism before I was born. What would have happened if he were a Muslim and converted to Buddhism? Would I still be here?”

          Nothing!

          Look at Tilakratna Dilsan, he was a Muslim before he became a Buddhist!

          Stop your stupid nonsense, you take a few examples and extrapolate on 1.7 billion Muslims.

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            Thank you Goraka, I will take your word on trust. gorakas do not lie.

            I am very happy. My Muslim friends are offering me a nice and young temporary bride if I convert to Islam. This means I can marry her after conversion and then drop her before my wife comes back.

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              So, Edwin you want to distract talking about an unrelated subject. What a cheap shot.

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        AMEEN, {AAMEN].
        First.

        “The beauty of this country is that in the same street you have a Temple a Kovil, a Mosque and Church. That is the identity of this country”.
        And think it over,

        2500 years, [ 1437 years after Mohd Nabi too],
        “The beauty of this country is that in mauntain top, the same place called Sri Paada, Adams peak, Sivnadi Paadam is worship by Buddhists Christians, Catholics, Hindus, Muslims ”.

        That is the BEAUTY of Sri Lankans Culture!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

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          Julampitiye Amaraya

          //2500 years, [ 1437 years after Mohd Nabi too],
          “The beauty of this country is that in mauntain top, the same place called Sri Paada, Adams peak, Sivnadi Paadam is worship by Buddhists Christians, Catholics, Hindus, Muslims ”.//

          //That is the BEAUTY of Sri Lankans Culture!!!!!!!!!!!!!.//

          Diversity!

          The mountain s more than 100 million years old.

          The mountain waited 100 million years for Adam, Buddha, and Siva to go up to the top of the mountain, and imprint theur footprints, out of their busy schedules.

          Did God Zeus go up as well? Or, was it too far for him from Greece?

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      Dear Edwin,
      I am another swallow. There are many many more swallows lke me.Though you may not be aware of their existence.
      Can we not make a summer? Do you only see those lumpen muslms bought over with petrodollars to protect desert monarchies and their arid tyrannical version of Islam.
      We ceylon muslims were special ceylnese who were deeply integrated with our sinhala buddhist brothers and sisters.
      Pray that beautiful era returns.
      Mohamed Farouk

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        Salaam Alekum Mohammed, I have no idea how many swallows doth a spring make – leave alone a spring. We have to ask Shakespeare. Why is it happening. Are you all trying to pull my leg? I cannot swallow the fact that so many swallows are migrating. But do be careful. With so many evil hunters it may lead to the extinction of the species.

        I hope that the golden era returns too. But I am not waiting with bated breath for that to happen. You are telling me, “Pray that beautiful era returns”. Sorry I may be a godless man but, contrary to the belief that Godless means principle-less, I like to tell you even Godless people have their principles.

        The difference between me God fearing people is that you pray to God and sin while I don’t waste time praying and do the same thing.

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          Dear Edwin,
          Well, well! You say you are presently working in an arab country. I hope they are treating you well!
          I hope you are also old enough to remember the particular scene in the film “Monsieur Verdoux” where the priest asks a condemned man ” to make his peace with god” , the prisoners’ response was unforgettable. He said,
          “Father, I am at peace with God, my conflict is with Man!”
          Ciao!
          Mohamed Farouk

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            Salaam Alekum. I put this question to Ameen. But he has not answered me. So I put it to you and all other Muslims commenting here.

            Question: My father was a Catholic and converted to Buddhism before I was born. What would have happened if he were a Muslim and converted to Buddhism?

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              So, as I stated earlier, you are from a Tamil Paravan Catholic family originating from Thootukodi in Tamil Nadu and you are now admitting to this. Rodrigo is a typical Catholic Tamil Paravan surname. You were denying this and have now admitted to this. You are from a recently Sinhalised Catholic Tamil Paravan immigrant family from Tamil Nadu, now beating the racist Sinhalese Buddhist drum.

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                Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Will you stop barking now?

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              Dear Edwin,
              In ceylon? nothing! In Afghanistan, Northwest Frontier province orISIS you may be confonted by the likes of Jihadi John.
              The Quran states…” Lakum Deenukum Waliyadeen…….” ” To you your religion, To me My Religion” “Let their be no Compulsion in religion” There are those who comply with this Quranic injunction and there are those who dont.
              Make sure that you are among “those who do” and you’ll keep your head.!
              Auf wiedersehen!
              Mohamed Farouk

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                Salaam Alekum Mohammed,

                What you quote here is relevant to how Muslims should deal with people of other faiths. I know that the Holy Quran is quite clear that conviction and not force should be the vehicle of conversion from other faiths to Islam.

                But when it comes to conversion of Muslims to other faiths these do not apply. The Holy Quran assumes that no Muslim above a certain age and of sane mind would give up Islam unless under coercion or with malice because Islam is the most perfect faith. It is the duty of all Muslims to remove the perpetrator from circulation.

                My father is dead and gone. I do not have to worry about him. He certainly would have been killed under the sponsorship of the nearest Mulla if he were a Muslim.
                `
                I feel that Hafeel either with a hidden motive or foolishly trying to give a different interpretation to the Holy Quran.

                According to Islamic rules, He has 3 days to repent and this is the 3rd day. For his own good I hope he will repent without further delay. The same applies to his supporters like you.

                In thermodynamics we have reversible as well as non reversible processes. A process is reversible if the entropy does not change, which means that no heat is added or removed during the process. A Practical examples is the compression of air in the upward stroke of the piston in an ideal car engine.

                Such processes are reversible and vice versa.

                Thus, seen through thermodynamic eyes, the process of my father converting his faith from Islam to Buddhism has to be viewed as a non reversible process and hence inefficient and goes to increase entropy.

                On the other hand his conversion from Christianity to Buddhism is reversible and efficient and does not change entropy.

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                  Dear Edwin,
                  The bone of contention lies in the interpretation.
                  Like in translations there will always be a component in interpretations that is infused by the psyche of the translator. Interpretations therefore will always be contaminated by the emotional
                  state of the Interpreter.
                  This is precisely the reason why there are so many comments on CT.
                  May I conclude by saying ” To you your views and to me mine”.
                  Theruvan Saranai!
                  MF

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                  Dear Edwin,
                  The bone of contention lies in the interpretation and the interpreter.
                  Like in translations there will always be a component in interpretations that is infused by the psyche of the translator. Interpretations therefore will always be contaminated by the persona
                  of the Interpreter.
                  Our mental state at any given moment is the result of many neurotransmitters and similar molecules released by bacteria in your gut.
                  Indigestion following a heavy lunch Induces a dfferent perspective from one induced by a calm stomach!
                  This is precisely the reason why there are so many comments on CT. So many sects and sects within sects!
                  If your father converted during medieval times, perhaps during the Inquisition
                  Would he have survived the stake? Would the Bishops have raised issues of heresy and blasphemy?
                  May I conclude by saying ” To you your interpretation and to me mine”.
                  I embrace you as a fellow countryman!
                  Theruvan Saranai!
                  MF

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    A timely call for sanity from Brother Hafeel. But how strongly will it resonate with the members of the two communities ?

    There was a time in history when Buddhism reigned supreme across Asia from Afghanistan in the West to Indonesia in the East. Yet today, this Buddhist Empire is a mere shadow of it’s former self – it’s loss is seen as the direct result of Islamic expansion over the centuries. The awareness and knowledge of this decline would naturally have created a sense of concern, apprehension and finally the fear of annihilation deep in the minds of our own Sinhalese Buddhist brothers and sisters.

    Fear is the key. In much the same way that successive U.S Governments used the bogey of Communism to ‘control’ the American people and then continued to frighten them with Islamic Terrorism (which incidentally has propelled the latest winner to the White House), the PWSB’s have effectively tapped into this latent, dormant, atavistic fear of annihilation to justify and garner support for their anti-Muslim stance.

    The Muslim Community unwittingly and inadvertently created a fertile ground for the PWSB’s by becoming significantly more pious over the past 3 to 4 decades – enhanced piety which was vocally and visually evident to all members of the Majority Community – thereby contributing to activating and stimulating further this latent fear of annihilation.

    The call for Muslims to look within themselves, to engage in deep introspection, went out 3 – 4 years ago when the anti-Muslim activities were at the incipient stages – and it was met with total silence. Muslims were urged to examine the issues of conflict empathetically from the point-of-view of the Buddhist Community and to initiate the necessary steps which would enable them to proactively identify and neutralize the negative effects caused by their Islamic lifestyles without compromising on Islamic principles. This did not elicit any responses either.

    The members of the Muslim Community must desist from behaving in thought and deed as a minority with a majority complex. They must not treat every issue as a zero-sum problem. They must demonstrate their willingness to be guided by the processes of consultation (shura) and consensus (ijma) in their discussions within and between communities as advised by the Holy Prophet (sal).

    A readiness to engage in the processes of introspection, self-reflection and empathy together with a deep desire to stop and reverse the polarization of the two communities by neutralizing the extremists on both sides of the divide must be the goal of all moderates. The more the communities in our motherland drift apart, the easier it becomes for those internal and external forces to achieve their own agendas.

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      ekelbroom:-

      “There was a time in history when Buddhism reigned supreme across Asia from Afghanistan in the West to Indonesia in the East.”

      That was before Buddhism ceased to be a Way of Life, and became a Religion, with all the Trappings of Statues and Rituals. Nothing to do with Islam.

      Humans have to go a long way, before We begin to Understand the Value of Buddhism as a Way of Life.

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    Assalamu aleikum brother Hafeel,

    As a Muslim woman, this was such a beautiful and profound read. Such heavy concepts explained with so much clarity. I learnt and I want to learn more about Buddhism too after this. Never imagined such similarities to exist between the two, because many of Muslims haven’t been taught these aspects including me. We are only taught to pray five time, to run to the mosque and to cover our heads and to recite the Quran. I personally don’t, and I know many of those I know, don’t know the meaning the essence of a single thing mentioned in the Quran. It’s in Arabic, and none of us are taught to care or to try to understand the deeper spiritual meanings, instead what we are taught, and what we in turn teach our children is ” God is watching, if you’re good you are in heaven if you’re bad you will burn in hell “. I always as a child even used to wonder what a stupid God could that be. To be offended by the actions of such a small speck of the creation ? How petty. And for once I’ve read this and will try to understand more about the beautiful nature that you seek to describe. I hope the other Muslims too who are clamouring for such a medival law like the MMDA understand the real dimensions of religion

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      shazna

      “As a Muslim woman, this was such a beautiful and profound read. Such heavy concepts explained with so much clarity. I learnt and I want to learn more about Buddhism too after this. Never imagined such similarities to exist between the two, because many of Muslims haven’t been taught these aspects including me. We are only taught to pray five time, to run to the mosque and to cover our heads and to recite the Quran. I personally don’t, and I know many of those I know, don’t know the me.”

      This is the standard practice and the Mullahs and Ulema want it that way.

      Revelation is always higher than reason and observations and data.

      When it comes to belief in Revelation, blind acceptance and stupidity is a virtue. Reason is the evil, Satan, Iblis.

      Philosophy and mathematics is the work of the Devil, Satan Iblis.

      Look into Sufism. It is much closer to God. Wahhabism and Salafism are closer to Satan, Iblis, Devil.

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    Assalamu aleikum brother Hafeel,

    As a Muslim woman, this was such a beautiful and profound read. Such heavy concepts explained with so much clarity. I learnt and I want to learn more about Buddhism too after this. Never imagined such similarities to exist between the two, because many of Muslims haven’t been taught these aspects including me, we are only taught to pray five time, to run to the mosque and to cover our heads and to recite the Quran. I personally don’t, and I know many of those I know, don’t know the meaning theessence of a single thing mentioned in the Quran. It’s in Arabic, and none of us are taught to care or to try to understand the deeper spiritual meanings, instead what we are taught, and what we in turn teach our children is ” God is watching, if your good you are in heaven if your bad you will burn in hell “. I always as a child even used to wonder what a stupid God could that be. To be offended by the actions of such a small speck of the creation ? How petty. And for once I’ve read this and will try to understand more about the beautiful nature that you seek to describe. I hope the other Muslims too who are clamouring for such ammedival law like the MMDA understand the real dimensions of religion

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      shazna;

      I have learnt The Essence of Buddhism from Reading Good English Translations of the Suttas (Teachings), by Western Monks.

      Do you have similar translations of the Quran? Worthwhile Investigating.

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    Wherever Islam go violence is the order of the day.it is not the matter of Nirvana is real or last day is reality.it is the matter of dominance and conquering.Appeased by early success of ISIS Muslims and Islamic priest community think Islamic dominance here is within their reach.Defeat of previous all powerful regime with their all out support is adding to it.When sword waving gang of Muslims led by Baktiar approached foolish monk lived there in Nalanda university thought they were coming for religion argument. no precautionary actions were taken. we know what had happen.but in Tibet monk prepared for consequences and ere able to kill all the swords waving gang and forced leader Baktiar to retreat with his personal guard. only three of them. likewise we need Tibetan monks approach here to quell Muslims mindset here. Muslims want to make this country look like primitive garbage Arabic cultured place. and students of other faiths to be thought greatness of Muslims.they think they are the greatest ones on earth with primitive Arabic garbage in their minds. as such arms struggle as well as verbal abuses needed to eliminate these mind set
    otherwise we may in war situation soon. Muslims business should be boycotted in order to down their economic power and avoid malicious practices like mixing faeces and urine with foods items like in UK.and mixing birth control drugs. writer mentioned all the incidents in Muslims business ventures are true . they purposely do these thing to control Sinhalese population. Buddhists organizations like BBS and others came up due to Muslims such malicious activities.now all the thing came to light now looking for scapegoats.writer one way or the other trying hard to white ash those malicious activities. he is a Muslim believer of koran. as such for him others are wild animals as well not human beings.

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      ranjith(sprrw)

      Haven’t you found any garbage dump to drop your trash?

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        native vadda

        i saw you waiting in ques at Indian Embassy. Why ??? did you not get your salary credited for last month.You and your friend Amarasiri working for them in order to get through ETCA. I suppose.I am working for nationalism but not for betrayal of the country like you people for dollars..

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          ranjith (sprrw)

          “i saw you waiting in ques at Indian Embassy.”

          Why didn’t you say hello to me if you were in the same queue?

          “I am working for nationalism but not for betrayal of the country like you people for dollars..”

          Isn’t it high time you sought the help of a psychiatrist for your heightened state of paranoia. Not that the psychiatrist has any treatment that would cure you but he/she can keep you busy that could prevent you from hanging around Indian Embassy with a begging bowl.

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            NATIVE WEDDA

            I SAID HELLO WHILE MY VEHICLE MOVING SLOWLY DUE TO TRAFFIC JAM ON THE GALLE ROAD. YOU JUST IGNORED ME.I THOUGHT YOU WERE BUSY COUNTING AMOUNT YOU COLLECTED IN INDIAN RUPEES INSTEAD DOLLARS. yes you can consult good doctors in Bangalore. raw may arrange it for you.

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      ranjith(sprrw):-

      “Wherever Islam go violence is the order of the day…”

      You are taking Isolated cases and Generalising them! It is people like you who create the Roots of War!

      What if the Muslims took the Bodhu Bala Sena and Gandassara, or the Batticaloa ‘Man in Robes’, as the Voice of Buddhism?

      People like Hafeel are trying to bring about Reconciliation, and People like you are appealing to the Emotions of the Uneducated, to create the Opposite!

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        Hamlet

        read this site attached and talk on reconciliation.

        http://www.islam-watch.org/Assets/headerpic-full.jpg

        What Muslims are doing with innocent people or customers of their business. This is in UK. highly liberalized country. as such can you trust local Muslims not doing same here for foods they sell to non-Muslims??????

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    To those interested in the depths of the topic,

    Please listen to the following video on Satguru Jaggi Viswanath, a modern savant, with a deep understanding of science and religion, on the concept of God:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ0e8JRu_9U

    It is humorous as well as profound and contemporary.

    Dr.RB

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    Good article, thought provoking. Yet I decided not to think, when I realised that we in general need something to hang onto. Family, marriage, money, the job etc. Without these the mind will blow up and the heart will stop.
    So if Wahabism and Sinhala-Buddhism sucks, there is a need to replace them with something else. Something better or, something absolutely more horrible and destructive.
    What will that be? I’m waiting with excitement for the new flavour of the month!!

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    Reading Buddhist texts is your problem. Doing haram things has taken its toll.

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      Fathima, you are the only honest Muslim around here. I know that it is Haram to read blasphemous material. It shows that Hafeel is not satisfied with Islam and the Holy Quran.

      If that is the case, he should disown Islam and go over to a religion that he is satisfied with.

      it is like buying Sunday Island, when you already have the Observer. Why do you want to waste your money? the act shows that you think that the Observer is not giving the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

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        Sadly, true Islam is almost extinct.

        What we have today is a corrupted Islam manipulated by others.

        True Islam will be totally extinct very soon.

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      Fathima, you indeed are a true Muslim. Ignorant, intolerant and bigoted, without a head to think and no intellect to understand. just like the zombies who run in and out of tells, mosques, churches with no depth. Assalamu Aleikum ( may peace be with you )

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    Hafeel, I am not sure whether you are a Muslim or has converted to Buddhism. From your write up I feel that you want to save both your beard and the rice soup. (Ravulai Kandai dekama Bera ganna Hadanawa Vage). In any case, I would like to tell you that the proof of the pudding is in the eating. You cannot comment on a pudding by just talking about it. You have to eat it.

    Similarly to test a religion properly, you have to come over completely. That is why the Buddhists praise the Dhamma as “Ehipassiko Opnaiko Paccattam vetitabbo ninnuhiti” (Ehipassiko” “come and see”; Buddha’s Dhamma is to be investigated. “Opanayika” Dhamma can only be understood by oneself. “Paccattam vedittabbo vinnuhiti” Dhamma is for the wise to understand and realize).

    You have to come and see. I did not have to come. I was already there, but I did not see. So I did not remain there. Everyone knows that I am an avowed atheist. May be it is because Dhamma is also Paccattam vedittabbo vinnuhiti. But I am sure being a Royalist and all that, you are Paccattam vedittabbo vinnuhiti.

    I assure you that no Buddhist, least of all your friend and Guru, Rev. Maggavihari would try to stop you or be offended a lot if you want to go back. I say a ‘lot’ because some would perhaps be slightly offended. But they will get over it soon.

    Think of Buddhism as those things that big sellers offer. A money back guarantee if you are not happy.

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      Edwin, if you use the time spent to type all of this, to actually properly read what is being said it will help open you eyes. Please read and don’t try to creat religious strife by pulling this way and the other. He is trying to make a larger point about comexistence and literal interpretations. He is saying the certainty with which you believe you are right and the Muslims Belive they are right is nonsense. So please stop preaching and insulting what is such a profound reading.

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        I am reading, man. I am reading. I have just completed the first 2 paras, not the ‘para’ that Amarasiri always talks about, but paragraphs.

        After reading the 2nd para, which is about the so called Kalama Sutta, I find that contrary to my previous belief, it is trying to pull wool over your eyes. Correct me if I am wrong, what Buddha says here is that don’t depend on books, traditions or what your father and mother tells you blah blah… but instead ‘when you know for yourself, These things are bad; these things are blamable; these things are censured by the wise; undertaken and observed, these things lead to harm and ill,’ abandon them.

        It is Ok for him to preach all that. But can we do it in real life? My father would have used his head master’s cane if I tried to be too clever like that. With every Tom, Dick and Harry quoting from the Kalama Sutta I expected it to say something more sensible. Let us see now, Kalama Sutta is telling the Putujjana to throw away the books, close your ears to what the hell your elders are saying and just do what you think is right. Do we need a religion for that? I don’t think so.

        Man, you know what I feel? I feel that if there is a book that I should ignore, it is the book on which Kalama Sutta is written on.

        What a paradox! what irony!

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          Edwin Rodrigo;

          The above Comment shows how far down You are, in your Journey towards Emancipation!

          Before One Reads and Understands the Kalama Sutta, One has to have reached a certain level of Progress on the Noble Eightfold Path!

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            Hamlet, you say: “The above Comment shows how far down You are, in your Journey towards Emancipation”!

            Picture a man who is just enjoying a relaxed walk along Galle Face. A private bus comes along and the conductor shouts “Otuwa – Pita Otuwa. Otuwa – Pita Otuwa. Naginna mahattaya, naginna”. The man has absolutely no interest in going to Otuwa or Pita Otuwa.

            On reading your comment, that is how I feel. I have no interest in understanding Kalama Sutta.

            I am happy and content in Galle Face. No need to go any further. Therefore, Pinwath Hamlet, you go to Otuwa, Pita Otuwa or even Thooththukudi if you like. But leave me alone OK.

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              Edwin,
              “I am happy and content in Galle Face. No need to go any further. Therefore, Pinwath Hamlet, you go to Otuwa, Pita Otuwa or even Thooththukudi if you like. But leave me alone OK. “

              As one rationalist to another, enjoy your stay in Galle Face!

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              EDWIN RODRIGO:-

              ‘Otuva Pita’ in the Middle of the Desert is where you belong!

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                Hamlet, you say, “Otuva Pita’ in the Middle of the Desert is where you belong”!

                And you certainly do not belong in the Middle East leave alone Otuva Pita. Ham is haram. They only eat halal food here. Even the camels avoid Ham. The camel will say – he is HAM – I do not want HIM. So no Otuva pita for you. But don’t despair. If there is a will there is a way.

                Just go to the temple in your village and tell the Chief Priest that there is a dana on such and such a day and please send so many monks. Then you tell “Loku hamuduruvane, we don’t want you to come because you are a Dussela monk, but you can send others”.

                The Loku hamuduruvo will then turn Hamlet in to Omelet, keep you recovering in hospital for a few days and send you to The Middle East free of charge. How about that?

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      Readers are not boastful like you Edwin. It means YOU DON’T READ. Take you lowlife back to the jungle.

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        Goraka, thank you stars that I did not read your comment. Else, you know what would have happened to your existence.

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    ISIS will condemn you for this. But otherwise you spoke the truth about fundamentalism on both sides. Thanks for a refreshing article based on information rather that Islamic fanaticism of hate filled Lateef Farouk and other Islamists. Fundamentalist intolerant behaviour is repugnant. But for you daring to study Buddhist teachings, you will be declared an infidel marked for beheading by the Wahabi Salafist Saudi funded radicals.

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    Hafiz you seemed to be all confused with the tenets of Buddhism and Islam.You seem to be groping in the dark not grasping what both these global religions say.In your article you seem to have portrayed a good knowledge of English but beyond that you are completely lost.Stick to exhibiting your ability in the Queen’s language but dont venture into matters be it Buddhism or Islam which you seem to be quite in the dark

    Fools rush in where angels fear to tread

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      Seems like a butt hurt salafi Muslim. Because the Buddhism we know and many others know ( as you can see and read ) doesn’t seem to be in any contradictions whatsoever. However for the salafi donkey there is a lot to think about. The man up in the sky is watching you type, and will be taking notes down that you lied. Beware :)

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      Wow so here have the true wahabi practicing whatever the BBS said they do, pretending to be someone else. I honestly think This writer is going to be taken to the cleaners by these ignorant racists. I feel sorry for him. The violence they sprout ideologically is the reason why many Muslims can’t do anything about their spread. Ideologically they shut the thought process down, no thinking, no questioning, just following one thing as they say. And the joke is these are the ones who interpret everything too. I say you people open your eyes, religion was not meant to confine, it was meant to iterate. It wasn’t meant to have zombies walking up and down, instead it is supposed to have creative, emancipated human beings. That’s the true teach of the Prophet sal, and the Quran.

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    Para 2 & 3

    Sorry to say this, but this author is also suffering from the same disease as Thisuri Vanniarachchi, namely, talking in riddles. The younger generation seems to be suffering from this disease. They seem to be unable to write a single sentence with a clear and precise meaning.

    Hafeel: “Take this; Was the concept of God, the omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent creator of the world according to religious teachings, human: as petty and arrogant and as the literal interpretation of scripture and ritual would have us believe”?

    The sentence after modification becomes:

    Hafeel: “Was the concept of God, the omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent creator of the world as per religious teachings, a human concept: as petty and arrogant as the literal interpretation of scripture and ritual would have us believe”?

    You see? Now we are getting somewhere thanks to my knowledge of encryption technology which in turn is thanks to the 5th Fleet.

    However, the rest of the paragraph is an attempt at mixing oil and water.

    Ignoring the murder of one of the finest languages on Earth, the whole idea is an insult to the Teachings of Buddha (TOB). The main characteristic that distinguishes TOB from other doctrines is the denial of the existence of something called ‘soul’ – mithya. It happens to be the single most factor that makes me consider TOB as the only doctrine that I will choose, if I am forced to choose one, at the point of a gun.

    If the author thinks he can smuggle this concept in to Buddhism by disguising it as ‘self’, then he is not only mistaken but stupid too. Why, because, TOB says that ‘self’ is a delusion of the mind and is the root cause of all problems.

    The next part “I had understood at an early age, that organized religion, be it couched in terms of philosophy or way of life, nationalism and pride were concepts through which identity was created and control was exerted”, lets the cat out of the bag. Now we get an idea of what all this is about – To attack the nationalism and pride of the janathawa. And one need not be a rocket scientist to understand which community the author means.

    If one does not understand the real motive behind that idea, one would think it is due to a misconception, on the part of the author. Saying ‘nationalism and pride’ as the cause of self is like saying ‘tanha paccaya avijja’ instead of avijja paccaya tanha’ in paticca samuppada (dependent origination).

    There is a lot of similarity between Amarasiri’s and Hafeel’s ideas. The only difference is that Hafeel is indirect and subtle while Amarasiri copies and pastes directly and monotonously.

    I do not blame the author, who probably thinks that he can cut a path to his heaven by writing such articles. But what about his Guru? Why doesn’t the Gola submit his work to Guru before sending over his writing for publication. Or maybe he does and this is the way both want it.

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    Farisz knows more Buddhism than me, Great .

    It is Yahapaana President who claims to be an avowed Buddhist ,that needs introspection after what has been done to this Nation, just in two years of UNP Yahapalanaya.

    200 Kilos of Kerala Herb to follow the previous two shipments of ” Crack” which came from Brazil.

    All in Sugar Containers.

    This is in a matter of 3 three months.

    Yahapalan Finance Minster owns a Customs Warehouse in his daughter’s name.

    The way poor inhabitants getting ripped off by Sand Miners,Paddy Merchants, Tour Guides. Past Pupils associations and even Foreign Job agencies are unreal.

    Episodes of Hiru TV detective show “CIA” display then in vibrant colours, for all to see.

    Junior Minister UNP Kalu Ajith gets demolished by a one liner from a Baiya JO Lady MP, while he was making his ball busting speech to defend 10 Yahapalana Senior Ministers, who are on the take big time.

    One time Yahapaana partner JVP Prince and a taker himself (UNP political donations of course) accused the Government Politikkas facilitating drug trade.

    These are all on even U Tube .

    And the President Bodhi Sira is promising the inhabitants that they will be all rich in 2017.

    Is he going to employ all of them in Sand Mining, Paddy Marketing , Tourism, Foreign Job Agencies and Past Pupils associations?.

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    Hafeel Farisz,

    Good piece. I hope my fellow Sinhala Buddhists as well as my fellow Muslim brothers will read and grasp the ideas if not the ideals.

    When there is so much to gain by camaraderie and peace, so many among us find hatred and violence so appealing. In this day and age where violence is purveyed as entertainment in computer games, where torture and killing is depicted in absolute gory detail in movies and videos, where all TV stations in one way or another glorify war and carnage, where social media rush, hasten and feed off each other to promote hatred, fear and hysteria, humanity within the human heart has all but disappeared.

    Farisz, in these troubled times where minds are tortured by every bit of news that filters down to ones eyes and ears, your writing gives respite and a small breathing space to ponder if hell is within us, or if hell is this imbecilic desire to live even among the most degenerate of animals, or what is really what where nothing is what we thinks it is. Thank you.

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    “And the President Bodhi Sira is promising the inhabitants that they will be all rich in 2017.”

    He meant the clan.

    He assured the clan nothing will change and their loot is safe even in 2017.

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    TO ALL MUSLIMS ANYWHERE AND EVERYWHERE

    Salaam Alekum. I put this question to a Muslim. But he has not answered me. So I put it to you and all other Muslims commenting here.

    Question: My father was a Catholic and converted to Buddhism several years before I was born. What would have happened if he were a Muslim and converted to Buddhism?

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      Some mullas would have killed your father before you were born and you won’t be commenting here at all.

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        I thought so too. but someone pointed out Tilakaratne Dilshan who converted from Islam to Buddhism. Perhaps they exempt cricketers from the punishment?

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      I have never met anyone that have chosen the way – from Muslim to Buddhism. Even if some Turks and Iranians seem to be respecting buddhism and its teachings.

      In today s context, your father would have been destroyed. And your being would not have been created to add your thoughts to CT this way.

      Also would have been the case – if todays environment was not the case, ASSUMING lanken situation was more decent 3 decades ago in that beautiful country. The radical changes were added to the culture during last 10 years than anytimes before – meaning Rajapakshes men allowed radical kind of srilankens to mobilize for their political survival. There are also prima faaice evidence sayiing that SLTJ was born with the help of Rajapakshe political mechanisms.BBS dogs were born with direct mediation of Gotabaya and the rascals.

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      Edwin ask, “Question: My father was a Catholic and converted to Buddhism several years before I was born. What would have happened if he were a Muslim and converted to Buddhism?”

      Simple, according to Buddhism he will die and reincarnated to die again. And you father would not mind it even if he was killed.

      So, what’s your problem?

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    Edwin G

    in your case, you yourself can answer this question by asking your father, because everyone knows this happened to you, and now you have a Malay looking face with a Sinhalese name, so you yourself is confused how you survied .

    However, in general If that happens he would become one of those born losers, as he will be joining a dying breed, as someone has commented here, Once a upon a time, Afghanistan to Indonesia used to be Buddhist countries but now they are all converted to Islam, and the way things are going with the monks playing pucks in this land instead of attaining nirvana, the same fate will befall Sri Lanka also very soon.

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      My father is dead and gone, perhaps to hell because he turned his back on the Christian God or perhaps to heaven because escaped from the Mithya Drushtika state and embraced the most logical and the most ahimsavadi doctrine – Buddhism.

      Where did you get that Malay looking face stuff?

      I cannot reveal to you my ge-name for obvious reasons. but my ancestors fought against the Portuguese army with Tikiri Rajasinghe.

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    Hafeel, I got this from Wiki Islam

    Whoever insults Allah, the angels, and the religion, has apostatized from Islam, and become an infidel.

    The apostate is the legally competent one who voluntarily withdraws from Islam, whether he openly declares his infidelity, or utters something which makes him an infidel, or does something which makes him an infidel. In this case, this man has uttered something which makes him an infidel! For he insulted the religion, or in other words mocked, ridiculed, and belittled it.

    The ruling on the apostate is for him to seek forgiveness within three days, and if not he is killed, according to the saying of the Prophet (peace be upon him): “The blood of a Muslim man is not permissible except under one of three conditions: 1) he commits adultery, 2) he takes an innocent life, or 3) he abandons his religion and separates himself from the community” (narrated by al-Bukhari and Muslim from Ibn Mas’ud).

    Let us beware, servants of Almighty Allah, to not be careless or reckless in our words and deeds, and to fear Almighty Allah in that which we say. For it is a great disaster for insults to the religion and the like to be found on our tongues, rather than remembrance and thanks for Almighty Allah.

    Friend Hafeel, I think you are in great danger. Start playing cricket.

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    EG, I must admit that you are humorous and intelligent.

    but look at the end results, in general the muslims are not well educated, but because of the religion and the system they are moving forward and getting better, where as in the case of the Buddhist, its the other way around, so its shows the philosophy is not compatible with the reality.

    for eg. look at the monks, instead of giving up the worldly desires and finding peace, now they are even claiming the rocks,the trees and everything else they can find and are willing die for it, its a total contrast to what they should be doing. where is the problem. the philosophy says being born is Dhukka, but on the contrary the monks are advocating their brethren to marry many women and produce more children and increase the population.

    Now as a last option, if you really see, the buddhist monks in Sri Lanka are trying to do everything what the muslims are doing, they have started to put pirith on louds speaker from early morning, weekly dharma sessions, the temples are decorated and tiled, it’s like the philosophy is not working now they want to convert it in to a religion, they always talk about how prosperous the muslims are, and about their population growth, so they must be doing something right, hence they also must do the same things, it’s like if you can’t beat them join em. but on the outside everyone just rubbishing Muslims for no reason.

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    This is a matter of/regarding Human Rights – and, behaviour.

    Every rational human being knows the difference between right and wrong, in human behaviour.
    All religions are actually ‘codes’ of behaviour.

    There is no need for ‘meditation’ which actually benefits only those with mental confusion.

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      Difference between right and the wrong depend on the way you look at it.in mosque announce five times a day there is no god but Allah. Muslims say it is right and it is their rights but others say it is wrong and it is an insult to their religion. looking at the way Muslims slaughter animals at their festivities, people of other faiths say Muslims are savages or barbarians. but Muslims say it is correct and it is the way to slaughter animals in line with their Islamic law sharia. for Montessori Muslims teachers teach small kids how to kill animals in halal way and through some red colored water there and appreciate child actions and make child to feel it is a very heroic deed.at the same time in Muslim dhamma schools same kids are taught Muslims are the only human good people others are kafirs or infidels or wild animals or unclean lot. as such humiliation of them is not an issue. if Muslim child or kid take home knife and behead one of his or her class mate as revenge for quarrel on previous day as per kid’s belief that taught by teachers and their priests. Muslim might say it is correct and it is their right but others and country’s law says it is wrong and it is a murder. with those differences how one can talk on co-existence or reconciliation.

      meditations of various types prescribed for buddhists to reach or attain mental peace and stabilities and develop into some states describe in Buddhism.it is not just simple thing you may think.

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        Yes, it is the human nature to criticise the other faiths and life styles. That is inevitable. If this would have been otherwise, it is just not normal either. However, what matters is the gravity of the critics. If wording are so powerful to create new forms of the divisions within divided communities – there the situation is similar to that of a metastasized -incurable cancer state of a patient.

        If any social elements make every efforts to live up their disagreements to other faiths pleasing politicians getting them mobilised their politicial propencities, there I see it is bit exaggerating. Latter is the problem with BBS and MR politics in Srilanka. Those SLTJ and BBS and others of the kind work for politicians even if they are non-buddhists but being part of so called radical groups.
        The problems facing the society today is no simple as appeared to be to the views of political analysts.
        Authorities cant go vehemently against the buddhist monks highly focusing on the status that they have been placed by a society of lanken nature – Mahawanse has made the Sanga or anyone wearing sanga constume to be put above –
        That is why you guys saw – some monks behave no better to psychiatric wild animals, with police standing next to them, police are there very helpless doing their due in terms of arresting those men. Those monks further abuse the silence of the monks and make every efforts to stand out – makin them HEROs for those livelyhoods. Just the incident occured few days ago in Batticalo was analaysed and I feel so. Else, there is no reason not to have taken the MONK to police custody by now.
        Regardless of his good work, believed and reported to have done to that nation, if he is not controlleble by police, that should also be a punishable acts. Where I am sitting, even president, minister, PM or the like are all under the law prevailing in the country (Germany).

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          iT SHOULD BE THOSE MAD MONKS THEN ABUSE THE SILENCE OF THE POLICE AND AUTHORITIES SINCE THEY WANT TO STAND OUT LIKE HEROES TO THEIR WORSHIPERS.
          Law should be equal to all regardless of the status of a person, be them religious monks, leaders or whatever, they should be under the law like it is the case in European countries. I have seen mad fathers being caught by police, if they went mad in public or within their church premises. But this to be not happening for Mad monks in srilanka – CAUSES us all all agony.

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    Ranjith

    Looking at your mental state, it’s certain that you urgently need treatment, if you think meditation can help to cure your madness, please do so immediately

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      Concerned citizen

      if i have problem it is mine not yours.i will look after it whatever the way possible.Talk on subject we are discussing. reply to my queries.do not get you selves hide in the rubbish. face the truth.we were discussing rights and wrong but you go away from the subject as you do not have back bone to accept or deny my comments as you have been overrun by primitive garbage.we Buddhists can criticize any religiour leader or founder if his teaching is not in line with scientific findings we were taught by new world. we do not have almighty to obey and make its doctrine to be reign all over at any cost.we do not have offences like blasphemy and apostate in our religion. it is free. monks who dedicated to attaining Nirwana do practice meditations prescribed by lord Buddha for that goal. others do meditate to have mental peace and stability. that is depend on one’s wish. nothing is compulsory. that is the beauty of Buddhism. Buddha further taught us to defeat mythology through arguments.do not let myths to engulf people’s minds.

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    Very interesting comments. Religions flourished when the Laity had to depend for knowledge on the Clergy. With the introduction of the sensory perceptive education system, today the laity in all Religions, are more educated than the Clergy. Therefore every Religion is under question and is on the way out. I believe Religion is for the weak minded. Religion has caused more misery to mankind with conflicts than the good it intended when it was found by man. The most beautiful thing that man created was God.

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      Dumb Gamini:

      The most beautiful thing that man created was God.

      God is for Idiots and weaklings.

      So, they follow it.

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        I don’t believe in God, but I wouldn’t call somebody who believes in god an idiot. Only an idiot will call somebody who doesn’t believe in god an idiot.

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    Buddhist View of War and Self Defense.

    “If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun.” (Dalai Lama)

    To those who preach ahimsa to the Buddhists, here is what Buddha said about war:

    “The Tathagata teaches that all warfare in which man tries to slay his brother is lamentable, but he does not teach that those who go to war in a righteous cause after having exhausted all means to preserve the peace are blameworthy.

    He must be blamed who is the cause of war. The Tathagata teaches a complete surrender of self, but he does not teach a surrender of anything to those powers that are evil, be they men or gods or the elements of nature.

    Struggle must be, for all life is a struggle of some kind. But he that struggles should look to it lest he struggle in the interest of self against truth and righteousness”.

    It is also obvious that a higher level of violence can be prevented by a little belligerence. However, all actions should be without malice. The motive should be to minimize the harm to bot yourselves and your enemy in terms of life and property and to correct the enemy if possible.

    Inaction may lead to larger scale destruction later on.

    Even animals use to good effect such actions. The contenders show fangs, growl fiercely and bristle the body hair to deter an opponent thus lessening the chance of an actual fight, which may cause injury or death to either party.

    The belligerent talk of monks such as Gnanasara must be viewed in the same way. They do a lot of fang showing and growling but no one has heard of them actually exchanging blows.

    To resort to a controlled level of appropriate violence, without malice for protecting the Sasana is acceptable. If a monk does not do it, the lay followers will do so and the conflict could soon reach uncontrollable levels.

    It must be pointed out that in Sri Lanka, Buddhist monks have been in the fore front of the defense of the Sasana from enemies. these are some of them:

    1) Thera Putta Abhaya (Who disrobed and joined Dutu Gemunu’s army as one of the Dasa Maha Yodha).

    2) Migettuwatte Gunananda

    3) Welivita Soratha

    4) S. Mahinda

    History will judge who out of the present monks should join these.

    To sacrifice one’s salvation for the sake of salvation of many has to be greatly valued.

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      EDWIN RODRIGO

      “To sacrifice one’s salvation for the sake of salvation of many has to be greatly valued.”

      How do you propose to sacrifice yourself for the salvation of many so that rest of us can greatly value your service?

      Are you planning to commit suicide? I would not advise you to take your own life for the sake of many, we are willing to put up with you, as someone somewhere said “pain is a liberating force”.

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        Sorry kalveddah, Did you say something? Did not hear. Was busy surgically removing the left testicle of a Kalaveddah I caught last night. Face looks familiar!

        Oh yeah! Just got the last part of what you said. Wait till I remove the right one and you will be really liberated.

        Over to you. Both balls in my court.

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    Hafeel, great piece thank you. We need more people like you.

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    Just when we thought you are normal person, you also come with the same rubbish as the De Silva and Ranjith. thus pulling yourself down to the same level.

    “The belligerent talk of monks such as Gnanasara must be viewed in the same way. They do a lot of fang showing and growling but no one has heard of them actually exchanging blows To resort to a controlled level of appropriate violence, without malice for protecting the Sasana is acceptable. If a monk does not do it, the lay followers will do so and the conflict could soon reach uncontrollable levels.”

    There is no threat to the Sasana from anyone outside, this is just manufactured paranoia, if at all it should from the inside such as child molestation, homosexuality etc. which if exposed could have serious consequences., moreover, the thug monk Gandasara is not only a damn down trodden lier, but very stupid as well; after creating all the problems, he lets the cat out of the bags by telling everyone how he managed to do it, thus exposing how he deceived everyone by manufacturing lies, these videos are on youtube.

    Everyone can that this has nothing to do to with saving the Sasana, but just carrying out the agenda of certain vested interested business people who engulfed with jealousy and cannot compete on an even playing field, so they have found the easiest way, fill the mass with all the lies and get some mad monks to push the agenda through.

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      concerned citizen, No one asked you to accept me as a normal person. This is a forum where people express their ideas freely. Even abnormal ones like me.

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        Edwin say, “No one asked you to accept me as a normal person. This is a forum where people express their ideas freely. Even abnormal ones like me.”

        There is nothing wrong being abnormal, makes us feel normal and pristine. Thank you for admitting of being stupid.

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    Ranjith,

    Can you please elucidate us with the so called advanced teaching of yours and how it can be scientifically proven, and any good it has brought to anyone.

    Do you think the Sinhalese people have understood the correct teaching and following the same, is this what your so called scientific teaching is.

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