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SL Muslims At The Cross Roads –XI – SL Muslims Vs Neo-Fascist Nationalism

By Izeth Hussain –

Izeth Hussain

Izeth Hussain

If people behave like sheep, they will soon have a Government of wolves. – Bertrand de Jouvenel

My main purpose in this article is to argue that the chief antagonist of the Sri Lankan Muslims, as well as of the Sinhalese and all the other ethnic groups, the chief antagonist whom they have to confront and destroy or be destroyed themselves, is neo-Fascist nationalism. I will suggest further that what I call neo=Fascist nationalism is a spurious form of nationalism, which can never provide a satisfactory and enduring political order. But before getting to that main purpose I want to make some necessary clarifications arising out of my last article.

I postulated a foreign conspiracy behind the anti-Muslim campaign, and in doing that I would appear to be caught up in two gigantic contradictions: on the one hand I am saying that there has been a foreign conspiracy and on the other hand I am saying that the Government is heading the anti-Muslim campaign. The explanation is that the one, the foreign conspiracy, could have led to the other, the Government taking charge of the campaign. The second seeming contradiction is that I am saying that the purpose of the conspiracy is to destabilize Sri Lanka and bring about the downfall of the Government and I am saying at the same time that the very Government that is targeted is heading the campaign to bring about its own downfall. The explanation is that Government has failed to understand the clandestine purpose of the conspiracy.

What is the purpose of the conspiracy? I believe that the only plausible motivation for it arises out of the Tamil ethnic problem. India is adamant on the point that a solution will be possible only through the full implementation of 13A, while President MR is adamantly against it, and since he is seen as inveterately racist his departure from power is seen as the precondition for a solution. According to what looks like a widespread view, he was offered the bait of an anti-Muslim campaign, and he swallowed it. The theory is that since the euphoria of the 2009 victory cannot go on indefinitely, he has to try to retain his popularity by appearing to save Sri Lanka from another mortal peril, this time in the form of Muslim extremism in Sri Lanka, which has behind it an Islamic thrust to gain dominance over the whole world. The theory therefore is that President MR is trying to refurbish his Dutugemunu image as part of his electoral strategy, and that means that the anti-Muslim campaign will evaporate once the Presidential and Parliamentary elections are over. I am rather doubtful about this theory for reasons that will be given later.

It is arguable that the conspiracy is working satisfactorily. Instead of using the splendid opportunity provided by the 2009 victory to solve the Tamil ethnic problem once and for all, he has presided over the creation of yet another ethnic problem, the Muslim one, bolstering his image as an inveterate racist. Very probably the anti-Muslim campaign has the support of only Myanmar and Israel, which could mean that Sri Lanka is today dangerously isolated. Internally, President MR and his Government have certainly lost the support of all the minorities, which means that around 30% of the electorate will be solidly for the Opposition. It becomes arguable that if the Opposition finds a credible common candidate, the President and his Government will have a torrid time at future elections.

The above material prompts a question that provides a transition to my main purpose in this article, which is to deal with neo-Fascist nationalism in Sri Lanka. The question is this: Why is it that there has been no demand for an enquiry into the suspected foreign conspiracy behind the anti-Muslim campaign? There is much else, apart from what was given in my last article, to establish not that there is a foreign conspiracy but that there is a prima facie case for looking into that charge. For instance there were those T-shirts worn by demonstrators here and in Myanmar which looked identical except for the logos, which obviously had a common manufacturer. Then there was a remarkable concurrence in the anti-Muslim rhetoric used in both countries. For instance a friend told me some weeks ago that, by way of illustration of the prolific fertility of the Muslims, the point was made in both countries that a grandmother, mother, and grand-daughter were all pregnant at the same time! Apart from all that, consider the serious negative consequences for Sri Lanka of the anti-Muslim campaign, which I have briefly outlined in my previous paragraph above. If there had been a comparable situation in India, we can be sure that the Government would have found itself compelled to hold a full-scale enquiry. But that is unthinkable here. Why not? I believe that the explanation might be found in the peculiar brand of nationalism that has been practiced here.

There are two brands of nationalism that are generally recognized, the first of which might be called citizen nationalism. In this brand of nationalism, ethnic and other group affiliations don’t particularly matter because an individual on becoming the citizen of a country becomes a national just as much as everyone else in that country. France made a superlative success of this brand of nationalism. At the time of the French Revolution less than half the population of France spoke French. In the succeeding period, France absorbed immigrants to an even greater extent than America, and created a strong sense of unity among its citizens of diverse ethnic origins. Behind it all was the ideology of the Enlightenment, and the ideal of democracy with its secular trinity of Liberty, Equality, and Fraternity.

The second brand might be called ethnonationalism, which is associated with Eastern Europe. There is no attempt to do away with ethnicity or decry its importance. The nation is usually built around a dominant ethnic group, with a sense of unity brought about through a process of ethnic accommodation. This is what we are witnessing in India. It has a vast multiplicity of ethnic groups, including some – comparatively a very few – which want to break away, but on the whole there is a deep sense of unity, the unity in diversity  about which Indians have good reason to be proud. That unity was spectacularly demonstrated by the way the Indians came together over the 1962 Sino-Indian Border War. That unity has been possible because since 1947 India has had a fully functioning democracy except for a very brief period.

The third brand of nationalism, which I call neo-Fascist nationalism, was spotted with extraordinary insight by Mahatma Gandhi. In his famous 1938 article on the problem of Palestine, he wrote, “But the persecution of the Jews seems to have no parallel in history. The tyrants of old never went so mad as Hitler seems to have gone. And he is doing it with religious zeal. For he is propounding a new religion of exclusive and militant nationalism in the name of which any inhumanity becomes an act of humanity to be rewarded here and hereafter.”

The operative words there for my purpose in this article are “a new religion of exclusive and militant nationalism”. The word “exclusive” is the opposite of the unity that characterizes the two other forms of nationalism. That nationalism enabled a higher degree of unity within the nation state than was possible under any other state formation. It is that unity that explains a good part of the extraordinary dynamism shown by the West in recent centuries. But under Hitler’s brand of neo-Fascist nationalism all the people of Germany were not brought together. Some, such as the Jews, the gypsies, and homosexuals were marginalized, excluded, and even subjected to genocide. The other distinguishing characteristic of the two other brands of nationalism is democracy or at least some degree of pluralism. Hitler rejected the Enlightenment ideology altogether, and had nothing but scorn for the secular trinity of Liberty, Equality and Fraternity. But it has to be conceded that he too was democratic in a way because he indubitably had the backing of the majority of the German people. However his was majoritarian democracy, amounting to no more than the tyranny of the majority, which the West rejected as the antithesis of democracy as far back as the eighteenth century.

I don’t want to labour the point, but the reader should be able to see without any difficulty that the identical processes are at work here as in Hitler’s Germany. The Tamils have been conquered, and the Muslims are being subjugated. All that is in accordance with the will of the majority and the tenets of majoritarian democracy. The Muslims are not being allowed to live in peace and dignity because of the operation of neo-Fascist nationalism. Neither for that matter are the Sinhalese, so that the Muslim struggle to be allowed to live in peace and dignity should be seen as part of a national struggle for liberation. I will have to deal separately with the suggestion I made at the beginning of this article, that neo-Fascism can never lead to a satisfactory and enduring political order. The essential point is that it stands for division, not for unity.

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    Izeth Hussain –

    “If people behave like sheep, they will soon have a Government of wolves. – Bertrand de Jouvenel”

    “My main purpose in this article is to argue that the chief antagonist of the Sri Lankan Muslims, as well as of the Sinhalese and all the other ethnic groups, the chief antagonist whom they have to confront and destroy or be destroyed themselves, is neo-Fascist nationalism. I will suggest further that what I call neo=Fascist nationalism is a spurious form of nationalism, which can never provide a satisfactory and enduring political order”

    Thank you.

    Yes, well, said and well articulated. The Appeasement Policy of Neville Chamberlain and the Russians with the Fascists Nazis and Mussolini was a failure.

    Revolution started, when people who behave like sheep, stopped being sheep. Specific example are American, French and Russian Revolutions.

    Yes, the Sinhala-“Buddhist” Fascism , which is neither Sinhala, rather para-Sinhala from south India, based on DNA evidence, AND not “Buddhism’ as per Buddha Dhamma.

    So, expose, expose and expose these Fascists and their supporters.

    Expose on blogs, expose on twitter, expose on Facebook, Expose o U-tube, and Expose using ALL available Media channels. The fascists thrive on misinformation, lies and other misinformation. They will use religion and race to their advantage to fool the populace.

    Can we challenge these Sinhalese “Buddhist” fascists and convert them to be agnostics. They are far more civilized and egalitarian.

    Why? Sinhala “Buddhist” Racism and Chauvinism that has nothing to do with Buddhas Teachings-Dhamma.

    Al-Maʿarri “The inhabitants of the earth are of two sorts: those with brains, but no religion, and those with religion, but no brains.”[16]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Ma%CA%BFarri

    Re Buddhism –

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsgcP65dDOg

    Buddhism The Great Evil — Part 1

    https://www.youtube.com/watchv=wNOfTGSADdY

    Buddhism The Great Evil — Part 2

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clcs2PSze0I

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      Izeth Hussain –

      SL Muslims At The Cross Roads –XI – SL Muslims Vs. Neo-Fascist Nationalism

      Native Veddah At The Cross Roads in their Own land due to Para-sinhala from south India and Kalinga – Veddah Vs Neo-Fascist Para-Sinhala Buddhism.

      Sri Lanka: Survival calls on UN to stand up for Wanniyala-Aetto 13 March 2013

      http://www.survivalinternational.org/news/9021

      The Vedda Tribe

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f89NuukY32U

      Many Wanniyala-Aetto have been fined for hunting in their forest. Some have even been shot dead.
      © Survival
      On March 15, the United Nations Human Rights Council (HRC) will discuss the human rights record of Sri Lanka, during which the country is likely to come under severe criticism for serious human rights violations, and be called to account by the United States. However, amidst the international criticisms of Sri Lanka, one community remains largely forgotten – the indigenous Wanniyala-Aetto.

      The Wanniyala-Aetto, commonly known to outsiders as Veddah, are struggling to survive on what remains of their land. In the 1950s their territory was opened up for Sinhalese settlers, and the tribe’s forests and hunting grounds were bulldozed and flooded. In 1983 their last remaining forest refuge was turned into the Maduru Oya National Park. The Wanniyala-Aetto were moved to government villages and banned from entering the park without permits. They were also forbidden to hunt in the park. They are still losing their land to outsiders who continue to be resettled in the area.

      The loss of their forests and the creation of the National Park has robbed the Wanniyala-Aetto of their means of subsistence, and of much that gave their lives meaning. Alcoholism and mental illness are now rife. Many face harassment from park guards and discrimination from the settlers who surround them. Many Wanniyala-Aetto have been killed, beaten or arrested for hunting on their ancestral land – despite a promise by the country’s President that they were entitled to hunt for their own subsistence.

      In the latest fatal incident in March last year, a 26 year old Wanniyala–Aetto man, Tale Warige Sunila, was shot dead by a forest guard for ‘poaching’ on his ancestral land in the Park. He had a permit that allowed him to be in the park, but not to hunt. In recent years, three other Wanniyala-Aetto, all with permits, have been killed for hunting in their traditional forests.

      Survival International has urged the United Nations Human Rights Council to call on the country’s government ‘to recognize the right of the Wanniyala-Aetto to live, hunt for their own consumption, and gather forest produce in their ancestral land in the Park and to enable those who wish to return to do so’. In the written submission, Survival further asked the HRC to ‘call on the government of Sri Lanka to ensure that those responsible for killing and harassing the Wanniyala-Aetto for entering their traditional land are brought to justice’.

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      Amarasiri,

      In Iraq and Syria today the Sunni Muslim ISIS rebels created and financed by the Wahhabi Saudi masters is annihilating others including non-Sunnis and Christians. They want these others to convert, pay tax, leave Iraq/Syria or get killed.

      BBS formed by the Sri Lankan government big shots and the Buddhist mahanayakes are trying to do the same thing: But things are not as intense as in Iraq and Syria.

      You must remember that the BBS is a creation of Gota, and Gnanasara consults the mahanayakes or their subordinates on regular basis.

      Even before Aluthgama attack Gnanasara is publicly reported to have met a mahanayake, and was told to do ‘something’: That something a few days later turned out to be the attacks on Muslims, their properties, businesses and houses and death of 2 Muslims and a Tamil. That something may be a code word from that mahanayake!

      In Pakistan it is well known that attacks on Hindus, Christians and Shias take place regularly like pogroms and genocide against Tamils in Sri Lanka.

      These are all expressions of human intolerance towards others’ culture, religion, color, or what have you.

      It is sad that the numerically strong, and powerful tribes become intolerant and attack the smaller ones: In Sri Lanka it turns out to be against Tamils, Muslims, and Christians.

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    I am sick of this “crossroad” thing.

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      Goraka, I agree with you. Too many blooming crossroads – dead ends, if you ask me. Anyway, I am afraid we won’t be able to find our way back because some jobsworth would have renamed the bloody roads (oh nightmare, Galaboda Aththe Gnanasara Thero Mawatha).

      Izeth Hussain, from time to time, makes interesting points. However, more often than not he reverts to his diplomat mode and takes off into some airy-fairy thinking that leaves me wondering, is this fact or fiction.

      All this tosh about foreign conspiracies is most puzzling; we got rid of THREE colonial rulers, so by now we should be fully aware if some charlie was trying to manipulate us. Or is it just possible that we haven’t learnt our lessons well?

      Siripala, polla gaenda, ikmante…………..menna suddha!.

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        It is not only I who advance the conspiracy theory. The idea is widespread. I cited two monks with political experience. There are many others with political savvy such as Chandraprema. There is a prima facie case for investigation. That prima facie case is a fact, not conjecture. It is all the more necessary because the consequences of the anti-Muslim campaign have been horrible.
        Interesting material has become available after the Angela Merkel bugging by the CIA. The Secret Services of the powerful countries are beyond public control. They suffer from boredom because most of the work of Secret Services is of an utterly dull routine order.Therefore they could think up pointless and fanciful schemes, such as bugging Angela M or cutting off Castro’s beard.
        The Buddhist world has been free of Islamophobia. Someone could have thought that it would be fun to get it going in Myanmar and Sri Lanka. That is conjecture. But the prima facie case for investigation is fact.

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    I have joined other commentators pointing out to Izeth Hussain and other local Muslim writers day in and day out writing in what they are convinced is a popular defence of the Muslim issue, in the local context, only goes to widen the “Front” and engage further majority ire. But they refuse to listen. I suspect to them seeing their name in print and the delusion they are being viewed by all others as exemplary teachers and philosophers, is more important. Nothing can be further from the truth.

    While I leave it to others to make their observations in this many deficient essay, I will make my comments only on the Tamil aspects of Hussain’s article. As usual, many of us are convinced Hussain has a bone to grind on the Tamils and he does not fail to reveal this weakness in his flood of “opinions” and “arguments” Hussain cannot conclude “Tamils have been conquered” and at the same time presume he is a commentator of some high significance. The Rajapakses will be the first to admit Lankan Tamils are not conquered. The military defeat of the LTTE can be put down as a total defeat of the popular resistance of the Tamil Nation – only by a lame thinker. The fears and the
    irrational behaviour of front-liners in the Rajapakse family “Tigers are around somewhere waiting only to regroup” “Tigers are massing outside in Tamilnadu and the diaspora to attack” gives the lie to Hussain’s misreading. Even Prime Minister D.M. Jayaratne, probably the worse PM this country ever had, openly says Tigers will soon attack.
    Of course, PM Jayaratne’s conclusion are rarely based on rationale – a man deeply mired in a serious drug-trafficking charge. Worse is the denial of the Rajapakse regime to give in to the verdict of the convincing popular mandate of the Jaffna Tamil people in refusing to allow the NPC to function since September last. Although one of the official reasons by The Rajapakse Family is the dispute between the Chief Minister and the Governor’s (by implication the Rajapakses) choice of Secretary; refusal to appoint a civil Governor – even a Sinhala one acceptable to both sides – are all ploys to illegally continue army rule aimed at bringing the Tamil Nation to their feet and misappropriating useful and agriculturalTamil land and so on; destroying the education of the politically alive Jaffna University students and all other measures to keep the Tamil Nation to the
    levels of a subject people under military rule.

    Mr. Hussain now complains of the Government turning against the Muslim people. It is this same man who joined forces with the Govt and went even to the extent of advising the Govt to generously use the instrument of the denial of food supplies as one to destroy the Tamil resistance in the 1990s. How matters have come round to haunt “wise” men of the calibre of Izeth Hussain who insist on lecturing the country on what is good and what not for all of us.

    Backlash

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      “Tamils have been conquered” is the wishful thinking of anti-Tamils
      like Hussain who have done much for the Sinhala side to change the
      equation. Now that they talk peace and reconciliation between Sinhalese and Tamils is the height of hypocrisy. The Lankan Tamil Nation has justice on its side and the support of the region and the world this gradual plan to surreptitiously liquidate it – by the Rajapakses, their army and those of the same ilk – will not succeed. The Tamil Nation will regain its rights, recognition, place and possessions in due time – hopefully, with the cooperation of right-minded Sinhalese.

      R. Varathan

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    “The Tamils have been conquered, and the Muslims are being subjugated”
    This why the Muslims are at cross roads. Muslims are Muslims first and they don’t know what they are second.
    They are not Tamils they are not Sinhalease and they are not Sri Lankans

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      Tamils are Tamils first, Sinhalas are Sinhala first, Catholics are Catholics first………..

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        So what about Tamil Catholics or Sinhala Catholics and Tamil Muslims?

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    He is speaking about Muslims coming to a cross road. Yes it is happening all over the world. In Iraq, Palestine, Libya, Syria and Egypt. In Sri Lanka it is Sinhalese Buddhist who have come to a cross road. Do we still stick to Lord Buddhas Loving kindness, compassion and sympathetic joy and let the religions(Buddhism and Hinduisms are not religions as such) been taken over by Christians and Muslims? It is more about how Muslim leaders work. Once(I heard) Colonel Qaddafi who came to the Non Align Nations conference in Colombo have told Muslim leaders that he was disappointed to see that Muslim people are still(in 1975)a minority in Sri Lanka.I fear that the fate of Buddhism in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Indonesia will repeat in Sri Lanka. Buddhist believe and respect Islam as well as Christianity. But we can’t even take a picture of Lord Buddha(or a Hindu god) to Saudi Arabia. Can’t anybody see who is doing what?

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      Orpheus

      “But we can’t even take a picture of Lord Buddha(or a Hindu god) to Saudi Arabia. Can’t anybody see who is doing what?”

      But Muslims can’t even take a picture of Prophet Mohamed to Saudi Arabia. Can’t anybody see who is doing what?

      They do not allow statues either. No Pictures or statues or Devil, Satan or Shaitan either.

      All invisible, in the imaginations.

      Buddha did not want statues to be made of him and worshiped as a God. He did not want trees to be worshiped either. All these started with the Greeks, who were big on statues.

      The Monks capitalized on it. Buddha, the teacher was made Divine, and the Monk Hegemony established. So,the Monks became the third Gem of Triple Gem.

      Religion is the Opium of the masses-Karl Marx.

      There are two kinds of people. “With brains and no religion , and no brains with religion.” 9th Century Syrian Philosopher- Al Marai

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      Orpheus

      Brilliant piece of writing .Need more of you to counter this campaign of lies and deceit .

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    US air raids have killed hundreds of Muslims in Iraq again.

    War is coming to an Ummah closer to you.

    Learn to look at problems in the global context.

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      Wowla,

      Good to see you pass on that solemn advise.

      There is no heaven , hell, god, allha,

      When the Japanese were still in China slaughtering the Chinese, Stalin sided with Maoist to kill millions of its own folk and also claim land islands of Finland and japan.

      big boy small boy did the do. You have none as Musharraf sold it all while he was Edgeware Road at a price.

      Long live the wise.

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      Fukishima and Avtars,

      Here is some info to enlighten you.

      Will the ISIS, ISIS in Iraq stinks of CIA/NATO ‘dirty war’ op be a better model for Chaos?

      ISIS in Iraq stinks of CIA/NATO ‘dirty war’ op

      http://rt.com/op-edge/168064-isis-terrorism-usa-cia-war/

      Read on… William Engdahl is an award-winning geopolitical analyst and strategic risk consultant whose internationally best-selling books have been translated into thirteen foreign languages.

      For days now, since their dramatic June 10 taking of Mosul, Western mainstream media have been filled with horror stories of the military conquests in Iraq of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, with the curious acronym ISIS. ISIS, as in the ancient Egyptian cult of the goddess of fertility and magic. The media picture being presented adds up less and less. Details leaking out suggest that ISIS and the major military ‘surge’ in Iraq – and less so in neighboring Syria – is being shaped and controlled out of Langley, Virginia, and other CIA and Pentagon outposts as the next stage in spreading chaos in the world’s second-largest oil state, Iraq, as well as weakening the recent Syrian stabilization efforts. Strange facts The very details of the ISIS military success in the key Iraqi oil center, Mosul, are suspect.

      According to well-informed Iraqi journalists, ISIS overran the strategic Mosul region, site of some of the world’s most prolific oilfields, with barely a shot fired in resistance. According to one report, residents of Tikrit reported remarkable displays of “soldiers handing over their weapons and uniforms peacefully to militants who ordinarily would have been expected to kill government soldiers on the spot.” We are told that ISIS masked psychopaths captured “arms and ammunition from the fleeing security forces” – arms and ammunition supplied by the American government. The offensive coincides with a successful campaign by ISIS in eastern Syria. According to Iraqi journalists, Sunni tribal chiefs in the region had been convinced to side with ISIS against the Shiite Al-Maliki government in Baghdad. They were promised a better deal under ISIS Sunni Sharia than with Baghdad anti-Sunni rule. According to the New York Times, the mastermind behind the ISIS military success is former Baath Party head and Saddam Hussein successor, General Ibrahim al-Douri.

      Douri is reportedly the head of the Iraqi rebel group Army of the Men of the Naqshbandi Order as well as the Supreme Command for Jihad and Liberation based on his longstanding positions of leadership in the Naqshbandi sect in Iraq. In 2009, US ‘Iraqi surge’ General David Petraeus, at the time heading the US Central Command, claimed to reporters that Douri was in Syria. Iraqi parliamentarians claimed he was in Qatar. The curious fact is that despite being on the US most wanted list since 2003, Douri has miraculously managed to avoid capture and now to return with a vengeance to retake huge parts of Sunni Iraq. Luck or well-placed friends in Washington? The financial backing for ISIS jihadists reportedly also comes from three of the closest US allies in the Sunni world—Kuwait, Qatar and Saudi Arabia. US passports? Key members of ISIS it now emerges were trained by US CIA and Special Forces command at a secret camp in Jordan in 2012, according to informed Jordanian officials.

      The US, Turkish and Jordanian intelligence were running a training base for the Syrian rebels in the Jordanian town of Safawi in the country’s northern desert region, conveniently near the borders to both Syria and Iraq. Saudi Arabia and Qatar, the two Gulf monarchies most involved in funding the war against Syria’s Assad, financed the Jordan ISIS training. Advertised publicly as training of ‘non-extremist’ Muslim jihadists to wage war against the Syrian Bashar Assad regime, the secret US training camps in Jordan and elsewhere have trained perhaps several thousand Muslim fighters in techniques of irregular warfare, sabotage and general terror. The claims by Washington that they took special care not to train ‘Salafist’ or jihadist extremists, is a joke. How do you test if a recruit is not a jihadist? Is there a special jihad DNA that the CIA doctors have discovered?

      Read on Using the Link

      http://rt.com/op-edge/168064-isis-terrorism-usa-cia-war/

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    Yaaaawnn!!!

    Izzeth Hussein loves to rush into print with his penchant for showing off his assumed erudition.

    Hey Izzeth, please stop your pontifications and obfuscations. After XI “Crossroads” you are still lost. For God’s sake take a break from this hopeless journey.

    To make one irrelevant point you go into a rambling rigmarole. And you get your intimates in a twist with your hopeless attempt to explain away your own contradictions. Tut, tut!!

    Please don’t continue to posture as the be-all, know-all and end-all representing the Muslim community.

    Your head-in-the clouds drivel (couched with “historical quotes”) may perhaps just pass muster only in an Ordinary Level class in a village school.

    What the Muslims sorely need are hard-boiled solutions to their dilemma in present day Sri Lanka, not banal sermons on history, politics and philosophy.

    I have said so before, and I repeat : Izzeth Hussein, please wake up and smell the coffee!

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      MNZ is spewing forth venom.I have to punish him. I cannot waste my time and deal with his drivel in detail. So I will ask him just two questions.
      1)He professes to be utterly bored with what I write. Then why on earth does he continue to read me?
      2)He expresses utter contempt for what I write. Then why on earth does he want me to provide hard-boiled solutions for Muslim dilemmas?
      MNZ – Don’t waste my time.

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        Izzeth Hussein

        You are a definite bore, trying to pass off as the final commentator on the Muslim crisis in Sri Lanka with your long-winded rigmaroles on irrelevant polemics.

        In spite of all those lengthy tedious articles spanning several months you have yet to offer a simple solution to the Muslim crisis in Sri Lanka. So what is the real point of your so called commentaries?

        Is asking two inane questions your best idea of punishing me (for metaphorically pulling your ears)?!

        Anyway, here are my replies:

        1. I not only read you but very other commentator of interest in CT whether or not I agree with the writers’ views. I have frequently disagreed with really superior intellects of the caliber of Dayan Jayatillake, Tisaranee Gunasekera etc on various issues. I have never hesitated to freely and robustly criticise some of their views. But I still continue to read their contributions. If I find your future contributions worthy of response (good, bad or ugly) I will still read them and make my comments which you are free to like or lump. And Izzeth, if you feel chastised by my “venom” (as you call it), tough!

        2. Of course it is contemptible that after yards and yards of bovine excreta passing off as commentaries you have not offered any tangible solutions to the Muslim crisis in Sri Lanka. Instead you have continued to directly or indirectly insult the regime, the ruling family, UNP and other Sinhala political parties as racists and fascists etc. You have also advocated international intervention with which I totally disagree.

        I have always argued that your approach is not helping the cause, and the crisis being an entirely internal matter, the Muslims should reach out for dialogue with their real and perceived ‘protagonists’ to achieve an “entente cordiale”. That is the only way forward.

        Izzeth, you well know that when you get into the public domain you become fair game for both bouquets and brickbats. If you don’t have the cojons to handle the heat please get out of the kitchen.

        And also Izzeth, a piece of friendly advice: Please don’t waste the time of CT readers with any more drivel.

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          MNZ – you accuse me of “trying to pass off as the final commentator on the Muslim crisis in Sri Lanka”. Can you tell me and other readers where I have tried to do so. You can’t. You are a liar.
          I asked you why you continue to read me if you find me utterly boring. You reply, “I not only read you but every other commentator of interest in CT ….”. You have contradicted yourself by putting me in the category of commentators of interest.It looks like you can hardly write anything but drivel.
          I asked you why if you find my writings utterly boring and contemptible you still want me to come up with solutions to the Muslim crisis. You haven’t answered that question. You can’t without showing that your views about my writings are nonsensical.
          You write, “You have also advocated international intervention with which I totally disagree.” What I did was to establish the reasons why the SL Muslims have no alternative to turning to the international community to safeguard their legitimate interests.I did not spell out what the responses should be. The term “intervention” has negative connotations and implies responses of which I would not approve.
          You find it “contemptible” that I have not yet offered any tangible solutions to the Muslim crisis.Evidently your mental faculties have been blocked by such hatred that you have failed to notice that I am engaged in writing a series of articles and that my solutions can follow. I have already advocated that all the issues that have been bedeviling Muslim/Sinhalese relations for decades should be properly addressed.
          I would advise you to refrain from replying, because if you do I will have to punish you again.In any case, if you reply, stick to the point. Don’t drivel.

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            I too have found this Izeth Hussain a strange character. If anyone were to disagree with him, he thinks in his hollow and contradictory replies, he “punishes” the other side in the peculiar hope the matter is resolved to Hussain’s favour. Invariably – and in his inherent crude nature, he calls them “liars” and adds what they write is “drivel” What an ex-diplomat?

            His regular question is “if you find me unacceptable why read me at all?” Surely, when he takes obnoxious positions – say on the Tamil issue – he cannot expect all Tamil readers to keep their mouths shut. He should expect a bellyful. This, one notices, he invariably gets when he strays into the Tamil question, where he appears to nurse congenital prejudices. It is true, in his years of writing, he still has to come out with a single fresh idea of bringing the Sinhalese and Muslims together. Clearly, he has done much to widen the gap with his “writing” so far. For Goodness sake, please do not attempt anything on the Sinhala-Tamil cleavage, where your warped and jaundiced opinions are known. The problem with the ageing man, methinks, is that daily “Island” offers him regular space with hardly any exceptions permitted. That seems to have dulled Hussain into the thinking he is our modern Socrates.

            Kettikaran

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              Well said Kettikaran.

              To quote a wag, “there are Mutts, and then there are Diplo-Mutts!

              Mr. Hussein is going bonkers.

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            Izzeth Hussein

            Despite my friendly advice it seems you have burst your ego-balloon, and back with the usual drivel!

            You threaten me thus: “…. refrain from replying, because if you do I will have to punish you again”. You are indeed a joker throwing these impotent threats at your critics.

            What “punishment” are you talking about? In fact you are punishing yourself by writing more drivel which attracts further criticism.

            Izzeth Hussein, please keep in mind that your apoplectic threats don’t wash with me. Sadly, you now sound like an aggrieved old Ayatollah sending out “Fatwah” to his critics!

            Your brain appears to have become befuddled with anger because I have criticised you for the shallowness of your discourses. This uncontrolled anger has resulted in rationality escaping you and missing the points of my response.

            Before I get to replying to what you have written, let’s get one point clear.

            Who has been spewing venom, Izzeth Hussen or MNZ?

            If one goes back to all your commentaries you are clearly guilty of spewing absolute and utter venom at the Regime, the Ruling Family, the UNP, Sinhala parties etc. by bandying such terms as “racists”, “ethno-lunatics” and now “neo-fascists”.

            Thank the Lord that the white van hasn’t come for you as yet.

            Do you think that by provoking and insulting these people with venomous epithets one is going to earn their respect? Methinks not.

            Or is this strategy another of your “punishment” stunts?

            Now to get to your points of contention.

            One need not lay claim to be the “final commentator” or to any other title, but by one’s words and actions may imply that assumption. If you say you are not the final commentator on the Muslim crisis I not only take your word for it, but applaud it.

            You are not the final word nor final commentator on the subject, granted.

            By the same token you have to accept that I am also a worthy commentator on the same subject though we may have opposing views with regard to the way forward. While you wish to spew venom on your perceived ‘adversaries’, I say let’s stop fighting with each other and have a dialogue with a view to entering into an “entente cordiale”.

            Therein lie our fundamental points of disagreement.

            Next, what is wrong in reading what you write? If the subject is of interest to me I will read it, despite the writer and boring character of the essay. That is simple logic. Please be assured, your childish threats notwithstanding, I will continue to read with interest what you may have to say in the future, and if I disagree on any issues will not hesitate to comment, robustly if need be.

            You have said “…the SL Muslims have no alternative to turning to the international community to safeguard their legitimate interests”.

            Doesn’t that clearly advocate international intervention without saying that in so many words? You should not take cover under linguistic semantics to deny what you really mean.

            With regard to solutions you say: “….I am engaged in writing a series of articles and that my solutions can follow.”

            Come, come Izzeth how many more “Crossroads” do you have to traverse (in the course of which journey you will spew more and more venom against your pet adversaries), in order to provide answers your fellow Muslims are desperately seeking?

            One does not need to be a rocket scientist to comprehend that the Muslim problem needs a solution here and now. Long convoluted diatribes spanning months and months could only fester the already sore wounds. I would like to believe that the aggrieved Muslims would like closure sooner than later, and all concerned parties including commentators like you have a duty to help in that process. By writing verbose, insulting and irrelevant pieces day in and day out merely to show off ones erudition is not helping the Muslim cause.

            So my final entreaty to you is please cut to the chase and now write your final Episode, so that we may hear your practical and rational suggestions for resolving this issue which has been a cause of much anxiety and fear among your fellow Muslims for more than two years.

            Peace!

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              MNZ – in your reply of August 9 you displayed a venom and utter hatred that is matched only by the venom and hatred directed against me by lunatic fringe Tamil racists.There has been no improvement in your further replies. But you now want dialogue and Peace.Useful dialogue requires certain standards of decorum and fair-mindedness.You are not capable of that. Go away.

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                It appears to me, talking to many Sinhalese over the years, they will, sooner than later, make up with what Hussain loves to call “lunatic fringe Tamil racists” than Hussain’s variety of born double-tongued, double-crossers. Old Hussain might watch his language and his suspect diplomacy in his addressing other communities. This particularly when he is off his rocker, which, incidentally, happens to be most of the time.

                Kettikaran

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                Izzeth Hussein

                Why do you behave like a cantankerous old man consumed with paroxysms of hate, with nothing valuable to say but insult, attack and threaten those who do not agree with you?

                It may help if you take a lesson from the way other more erudite commentators deal with criticisms from CT readers, however robust they may be.

                A good commentator will either completely ignore such criticism, or alternatively ignore its “tone and tenor” and simply deal with the facts when responding to same. You have miserably failed to follow such great practice and have instead taken personal umbrage on the perceived tenor of my comments. Why so, only you and God know!

                This is most clearly manifested by your attack on me personally, and then ducking the issues I raised in my last reply wherein I exposed you as the not so subterranean hate-monger and ego-stricken racist that you evidently are.

                Sad to say, you are indeed an unrepentant charlatan!

                In case you are continuing to have nightmares about “Racists”, “Ethno-lunatics” and “Neo-fascists” please consult a good psychiatrist soon as these nightmares seem to be consuming you.

                With regard to “peace talks” you are not only filled with venom and hatred against all other communities but evidently incapable of entering into any such dialogue, what with your impotent threats of punishing all and sundry that do not toe your warped line of thinking.

                By the way Izzeth Hussein, please be informed that despite your earnest prayers MNZ is not going anywhere, and will continue to add to your nightmares in case you continue writing the usual drivel.

                May the Lord at least now show you the light!

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                  Any interested reader studying the replies to CT articles will find that there has not been anything comparable to the sustained outpouring of venom and utter hatred directed against me by MNZ and the lunatic fringe Tamil racists.They believe that my articles are of the poorest quality, and MNZ believes that they are utterly boring. I have tried to reason with them but that has been of no avail whatever. In this context I have no alternative to bringing out certain facts which in some other contexts might seem boastful.
                  From 1989 to 1994 I frequently contributed articles to the Lanka Guardian, which even by international standards was a magazine of the highest quality. Its Editor Mervyn de Silva was Sri Lanka’s greatest journalist. He reminded me some weeks before he died that he had never failed to publish anything that I wrote.
                  From 1998 to 2000 I wrote a weekly column for the Weekend Express, a Tamil-owned paper. It came about because of the insistence of my late friend, Neelan Tiruchelvam. Around that time, Mr Sampanthan, present leader of the TNA, told me that he cut out my articles and kept them for rereading.
                  A member of the LLRC told me that the one member of the public from whom they would have liked to have a representation was myself. Among the “they” he mentioned a Tamil, a very distinguished retired Civil Servant. My informant told me that although the date for representations was long past, I should make it all the same.
                  My present series of articles on the SL Muslims has drawn a sizeable number of encomiums from Tamils, Muslims and Sinhalese. I treasure in particular an encomium – there may have been two – from Fr. S.J. Emmanuel, head of the GTF. I cannot recall whether they were in connection with the present series of articles or a little earlier. Two of my recent articles have been published in Tamil translation in Canada, and one in Sinhalese in Ravaya.
                  An institute in Colombo, not a Muslim one, is going to publish my present series of articles on the SL Muslims in book form, both in English and Sinhalese.
                  In conclusion I have a request to make to MNZ and the lunatic fringe Tamil racists.Don’t waste my time.

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                    Izzeth Hussein

                    Many thanks for the heads-up on your past literary endeavours spanning decades. It was not boastful but factual. No argument there.

                    I can’t speak for the so-called “Tamil lunatic fringe” but I am honestly a great admirer of your writing skills, especially the elegance and felicity with which you handle the English language in your pieces. No wonder illustrious personalities of the calibre of Mervyn de Silva gave you so much encouragement. By the same token I am sure that many Sri Lankans, and especially the Muslim community, are proud of such a talent in their midst.

                    In fact I have always read your journalistic contributions over the past several years and marvelled at the depth of your knowledge and analytical dexterity. Kudos there.

                    And as you may well know I have never ventured to criticise any of your contributions until you started writing the “Crossroads” series.

                    Whatever anybody may say, by virtue of your regular contributions on the subject, you have (unwittingly or otherwise) become the representation of broad Muslim opinion in Sri Lanka. Actually this is what a wide spectrum of my associates from all sides of the communal divide feel too. That I thought was quite dangerous as there are many shades of opinion from “extreme” to “docile” across the Muslim board.

                    On reflection, I agree that I may have been a little over the top in expressing my disagreement with your “Crossroads” opinion pieces.

                    However, in my defence I must say that I feel equally bitter and aggrieved with what the Muslim community has been facing these past two years, but have a contrarian approach to yours which I felt was only adding fuel to fire. Hence the harsh tenor of my criticism on what you wrote.

                    In my opinion it is quite unfortunate that you have publicly used such vitriolic terms such as “racist”, “ethno-lunatic” and “neo-fascists” in describing those creating problems for the Muslim community, and even suggesting international intercession (not “intervention”, as I agree it has negative connotations). However bad these “adversaries” may be, I feel that provoking and confronting them as you are doing, will only add fuel to fire. Muslims must at all costs avoid that risk. Hence my robust (not “venomous”) comments during the thrust and parry of our hitherto acrimonious debate!

                    Writing in the vein you have followed over the past several weeks without offering any tangible solution to the issues could perhaps only cause further aggravation against the hapless Muslims. Hence my plea to you to do that soon.

                    As there did not appear to be an end to your “Crossroads” series I had to cry help by saying I was bored with your articles hoping against hope that you would get the message!

                    Respected commentators of your ilk, in my humble view, also have an urgent and essential duty to encourage dialogue and reconciliation between the warring parties to conclude an “entente cordiale”. This is purely for the peace and security of the Muslims who are compelled to live in a Sinhala majoritarian society. I understand that you have excellent diplomatic credentials too, so you know what I am talking about here.

                    Izzeth, please don’t continue with the fixed mind-set you have exhibited so far. It helps to listen to other shades of opinion too as nobody has a monopoly on knowledge or intellect. Sometimes we take lessons from our kids too.

                    Unfortunately, at the end of your otherwise illuminating response you say: “In conclusion I have a request to make to MNZ and the lunatic fringe Tamil racists.Don’t waste my time.”

                    I know you feel quite aggrieved with the hot exchanges between us, but as a seasoned ex-diplomat you well know the last thing one should to do is to walk off at the end of a dialogue by flinging insults and threats.

                    The same principle goes for your “Crossroads articles”, as it really doesn’t help the Muslim cause.

                    I hope I have not wasted your time again.

                    Take care and God bless!

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                      Thank you very much. I am taking your advice. Saturday week will see the first of my articles dealing with Sinhalese-Muslim issues.
                      I must say that I am thoroughly surprised that I am regarded as the representation of broad Muslim opinion. I am pleased of course. I recognize that I have to assume certain responsibilities whether I like it or not. Let me think about it.
                      Some clarifications.”Racism” is common usage. “Fascism” is often used abusively, but I am using it precisely and there is no recognized substitute for it.”Ethnolunacy” is certainly an emotionally charged word, but I feel it is apposite considering how dangerous racism is. – Kind regards – Izeth

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                    Izzeth Hussein

                    Many thanks for the heads-up on your past literary endeavours spanning several decades. It was not boastful but factual. No argument there.

                    I can’t speak for the so-called “Tamil lunatic fringe” but I am honestly a great admirer of your writing skills, especially the elegance and felicity with which you handle the English language in your pieces. No wonder illustrious personalities of the calibre of Mervyn de Silva gave you so much encouragement. By the same token I am sure that many Sri Lankans, and especially the Muslim community, are proud of such a talent in their midst.

                    In fact I have always read your journalistic contributions over the recent years and marvelled at the depth of your knowledge and analytical dexterity. Kudos there.

                    And as you may well know I have never ventured to criticise any of your contributions until you started writing the “Crossroads” series.

                    Whatever anybody may say, by virtue of your regular contributions on the subject, you have (unwittingly or otherwise) become the representation of broad Muslim opinion in Sri Lanka. Actually this is what a wide spectrum of my associates from all sides of the communal divide feel too. That I thought was quite dangerous as there are many shades of opinion from “extreme” to “docile” across the Muslim board.

                    On reflection, I agree that I may have been somewhat over the top in expressing my disagreement with your “Crossroads” opinion pieces.

                    However, in my defence I must say that I feel equally bitter and aggrieved with what the Muslim community has been facing these past two years, but have a contrarian approach to yours which I felt was only adding fuel to fire. Hence the harsh tenor of my criticism on what you wrote.

                    In my opinion it is quite unfortunate that you have publicly used such vitriolic terms such as “racist”, “ethno-lunatic” and “neo-fascists” in describing those creating problems for the Muslim community, and even suggesting international intercession (not “intervention”, as I agree it has negative connotations). However bad these “adversaries” may be, I feel that provoking and confronting them as you are doing, will only add fuel to fire. Muslims must at all costs avoid that risk. Hence my robust (not “venomous”) comments during the thrust and parry of our hitherto acrimonious debate!

                    Writing in the vein you have followed over the past several weeks without offering any tangible solution to the issues could perhaps only cause further aggravation against the hapless Muslims. Hence my plea to you to do that soon.

                    As there did not appear to be an end to your “Crossroads” series I had to cry help by saying I was bored with your articles hoping against hope that you would get the message!

                    Respected commentators of your ilk, in my humble view, also have an urgent and essential duty to encourage dialogue and reconciliation between the warring parties to conclude an “entente cordiale”. This is purely for the peace and security of the Muslims who are compelled to live in a Sinhala majoritarian society. I understand that you have excellent diplomatic credentials too, so you know what I am talking about here because one can’t force peace down anyone’s throat.

                    Izzeth, please don’t continue with the fixed mind-set you have exhibited so far. It helps to listen to other shades of opinion too as nobody has a monopoly on knowledge or intellect. Sometimes we take lessons from our kids too.

                    Unfortunately, at the end of your otherwise illuminating response you say: “In conclusion I have a request to make to MNZ and the lunatic fringe Tamil racists.Don’t waste my time.”

                    I know you feel quite aggrieved with the hot exchanges between us, but as a seasoned ex-diplomat you well know the last thing one should to do is to walk off at the end of a dialogue by flinging insults and threats.

                    The same principle goes for your “Crossroads” articles, as it really doesn’t help the Muslim cause.

                    I hope I have not wasted your time again.

                    Take care and God bless!

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                      Izeth (sorry I got the spelling wrong before, though inadvertently)

                      I am so glad that at last we have reached ‘consensus ad idem’.

                      While I do appreciate your explanation of the terms to which I had taken exception, I am of the view that the intended nuances would be best understood perhaps only by a handful of purely professional and academic readership.

                      However, as CT and more essentially daily newspapers are read by the “hoi-polloi” these people could not be expected to possess such discernment. Therein lies the problem. While this is not a criticism per se, perhaps you would keep my comments in this regard in mind. We all know that you do have the literary flair and skills to call a “spade” by a more benign name, and yet be well understood by the intellectual audience as to what you really mean, though it would probably sail over the majority of heads among the “hoi-polloi”.

                      I am also extremely pleased that you have agreed to reconsider your trajectory on the Sinhala-Muslim issues beginning with your next article. As I have said before, the general perception is that you are the public face of the Muslims in Sri Lanka. Therefore, as a respected commentator you do have a serious responsibility and obligation to do the best you can for the safety, security and well-being of your community during these challenging times.

                      I eagerly look forward to your future commentaries, and most certainly will make an attempt to lead the cheering squad.

                      More strength to your elbow!

                      MNZ

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    Truly troubling to know that this neo-fascist-right still exists today in Sri Lanka in this day and age of democracy, modernity, superior-evolution and Buddhism. Norway and the West have at last found the Achilles-heel of Sri Lanka to stall further growth towards China. Gosl as always, is in the catch-22 situation.

    But we will pray and work for the average Sinhala person, and hope that they will gradually pullout of the curse Kuvani placed on them 2,500 years ago. Truth is, the only reason they fall into this hole again and again is because Sri Lanka never had much means of making money, and when they now do (courtesy of China), it is achievable only through commercial means of mostly the Muslim mind. The man of the soil cannot contribute much except, as being servants to the ME.

    Even as the masses embarrassingly scream out the Mahavamsa rhetoric (that propels the neo-fascist-right), can the Gosl move into the paddy-field and give them the correct wages for an honest days work. It is up to Gosl to form the ethical balance to integrate town and village; minority and majority. Then, and only then, can the final tears of Kuveni be erased, and SB’s will find in in themselves, no necessity to go back to 2,500 year records to substantiate their existence.

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    No wonder our Muslim Minister of Justice Mr Hakeem is sticking with Rajapaksa.

    These Muslim scholars seem to spend too much time chasing neo fascists among Sinhala Buddhists or they are too scared to write about real fascists who are out to get them.

    Sunni Muslims surround the Christians and Obama unleashes Missiles allover Iraq.

    That is only two years after his declaration that no more American Wars in the Middle East.

    Israeli missile have taken care of 2000 poor Muslims , mainly women and children obliterated in their own houses and Obama blames the Hamas rockets which are all home made.

    Wouldn’t these Scholars ever think of writing something on relative strengths of the power, explosive strength and total TNT in these two types of Missiles and the collateral damage from them?..

    At least it will make more interesting to read than this Sinhala Buddhist fascism. .

    Even the recent skirmish in Muslim Turf Maradana would be an interesting topic.

    Would it have been different to Darga Town, if the Sinhala Buddhist Monks lead neo fascists attacked Bishop Raiaapu’s Christian Widows in Maradana?.

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      K.A Sumanasekera

      “Israeli missile have taken care of 2000 poor Muslims , mainly women and children obliterated in their own houses”

      Good work, you have been at least counting the number of death of poor Muslims in the far, far away countries.

      Have you ever spent time counting the number of your poor innocent Christian and Hindu death in Vanni when shells and bombs rained on them from Army, Navy and Air force artillery and Kifirs, Dvoras, Shaldag class, … ?

      Have you assigned the counting to Vellala Christian Bishop Rayappu and his Tamil Diaspora?

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    In view of the developments in the Middle East, besides new fascist nationalism, we may have to wait for a thousand years to see what would eventually happen. We watch from day to day. Bensen

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    Muslims were always on the crossroads always looking which side to turn.But last time made a wrong turn and ended in this messs

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    The biggest betrayer in recent times to the People of Sri Lanka whether it is Sinhala, Tamil or Muslim is Mr Rauf Hakeem. He provided the Much needed 2/3 majority to the Government for the abolishment of 17th Amendment and to the Introduction of 18th Amendment. He provided the unlimited terms for the President.

    If he had not done that MR third term dream would have been in vein. The internal rift within PA would have lead to somewhat Moderate direction for the country.

    Izeth Hussain should blame none other than Muslim leaders for the issues they are facing today.

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    Too much of this will bring Israel, USA and Modi’s RSS into SL which will be the end of Muslims in SL.

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    Iseth,

    You moslems are primitive and belong to the stone ages. You are not qualified to talk about the Sri Lanka. First clean up your own house and clean up your primitive religion.

    Read the news item below;

    ” BEIRUT (AP) — A cleric read the verdict before the truck came and dumped a large pile of stones near the municipal garden. Jihadi fighters then brought in the woman, clad head to toe in black, and put her in a small hole in the ground. When residents gathered, the fighters told them to carry out the sentence: Stoning to death for the alleged adulteress.”

    This happened this morning.

    “None in the crowd stepped forward, said a witness to the event in a northern Syrian city. So the jihadi fighters, mostly foreign extremists, did it themselves, pelting Faddah Ahmad with stones until her body was dragged away.

    “Even when she was hit with stones she did not scream or move,” said an opposition activist who said he witnessed the stoning near the football stadium and the Bajaa garden in the city of Raqqa, the main Syrian stronghold of the Islamic State group.”

    Do you want this in Sri Lanka.

    “The moslem male bastards should be stoned to death after castrating them”

    JP/USA

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      Liar, Liar,Kotchi, Gembo in the US- your chem set is still blownup!
      Dont go soon!
      Reinforce your borrowed underpants to face the electric chair.
      ______________

      International human rights groups did not report the stoning, and Human Rights Watch said it had no independent confirmation.

      “It is a very worrying trend if true,” said Human Rights Watch researcher Lama Fakih.

      ______________

      The lie: The July 18 stoning (not today 10th Aug. as you say Associated Press Beriut)The stoning took place after dark, he said, at about 11 p.m. He could not see blood on the body because of the black clothes she was wearing. Ahmad did not scream or shake, and died silently. “They then took the dead body in one of their cars and left,” he said.

      Most probably they were burying the dead in a dream.

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        Can some one please translate this crap into a more understandable way!!

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          try the chinese styscraper they like pork cops off tip cuts!!

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    Who can fault the Americans for their action in Iraq and Afghanistan!

    Good work USA!

    Now I understand why US action is correct in the middle east.

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