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Tear Up The National Flag And Dump It !

By Muhammed Fazl

Muhammed Fazl

Muhammed Fazl

I call upon all Sri Lankans to tear up the national flag & dump it & demand a new one to be designed so as to create a state of unity, equality & justice and to ward off the curse that has engulfed us all, all along!

Reasons for my conclusion;

1. SL never had lions nor was a bone ever found. We don’t have a national animal (we have a bird though) and the lion supposedly is to show bravery of the Sinhala race. The country was in existence thousands of years before the advent of the Sinhala race and it will continue to exist for thousands of years more even if the race becomes extinct! Talking of origins, neither the race, its people or the language is native and it all evolved from Asia, particularly India, Nepal etc…

And of bravery, now that is a far cry from reality. Sri lanka is a land of cowards & traitors who meekly surrendered it to the Portuguese, the Dutch and finally to the Britishers. Our independence was NOT hard fought, we just got it on a platter. Even at that stage, we were made to think that the Britishers were doing us a favor and we even said ‘thank you Sir’ on bended knees. Let us also NOT forget that it was the ‘Sinhala’ race that instigated and sustained the struggle for the division of the country during the 1983-2009 war!

Air force officer holds Sri Lanka's national flag as the sun sets at Galle Face Green in ColomboOne might wonder how the Sinhala race-led government sustained the war. First it was the ‘Sinhala-only’ policy followed by the marginalization of the minorities of every government in power that instigated the uprising of the Tamils, followed by the government’s lack of will to find a peaceful solution, give equality, separate state & religion & aiding the enemy with funds & weapons which resulted in it lasting longer with lethal devastation! Eliminating a rag-tag army of under 10,000 by a well equipped force of over 300,000 strong and dragging it for over 25 long years wouldn’t be considered ‘bravery’ in my book either. And questioning the alleged tactics of the SL armed forces, especially during the last stages of the war would definitely warrant an international War Crime Tribunal! But then again it is another long story…

The hard-line nationalist may want to portray the Lion symbol as bravery…. but in my view it is a flesh-eating, violent savage. No wonder the people of Sri Lanka resorting to violence & physical abuse at every altercation. A symbol of peace would be the need of the hour and an animal found in Sri Lanka would make it more sensible. My personal choice would be the elephant (majestic) or the peacock with its vibrant colors. (The government can request the Opposition party UNP to change their symbol).    🙂

2. It is funny to see the colors of the flag depicting the 3 different races (Sinhala, Tamil, Moor). If a dimwit thought showing the 3 different races separately as unity, I beg to differ. It is WRONG to show divisions, by doing so, it divides the population and depicts an imbalance of rights when one sect is given prominence. Race and religion is a choice one makes or is made by a parent, either at birth or by marriage or by conviction and that SHOULD be a personal matter. Besides, history has shown that race only divides the people and that no good has come to date.

Let us have one common color that does not divide the people based on ethnicity!

3.  The 4 leaves of the Bo tree is supposedly to depict Metta (loving-kindness), Karuna (compassion), Mudita (the joy in other people’s well being) and Upekkha (spiritual state) of the Buddhist philosophy. But is it a common practice or is it still in existence by and large? The answer would be a big ‘NO’!

It is not uncommon to see the flag-bearers of Buddhism (monks) themselves being lustful, vengeful, racist, and violent among other negative attributes. In this context, how realistic would it be for its ordinary adherents to follow the teachings of Lord Buddha?

So who is fooling whom with this poorly thought-of design that we call the ‘National Flag’ and that which we are ‘forced’ to embrace??

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    Tear up all the flags
    Burn all the “sacred” texts
    including the Koran, Bible, Hindu scriptures
    and the Tripitaka
    Destroy all statues
    Demolish all temples, vihares, mosques and churches
    Disrobe all monks, priests, mullahs, clergy,
    and reverend fathers and sisters
    and abolish all rituals.
    Then what will you be left with
    my friend Muhammed Fazl?

    It will be nothing but the
    eternal law of the ……..
    You can run,
    but you can’t hide from the
    Truth as realised by ………?

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      Are not the flags man made and the rest you mention derived from divinity. Is not the comparison flawed.

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        Lanka Muslim, UK

        Divinity, my foot!
        You missed my whole point. Everything is man made:
        Scriptures, statues, places of worship and rituals
        are all equally man made like the flags. Are you afraid
        of incensing God? Don’t worry, God is a human construct, too.

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          ‘God is a human construct, too’. It is that sort of thinking that creates in one a destructive attitude.

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            Lanka Muslim, UK;

            Truth is destructive attitude and untruth is divine for you?

            This is a disclosure of your mythical and wrong belief system. Open your mind and start to think.

            Thanks!

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    Muhammed F—,

    The most appropriate thing the writer Muhammed F— can do is to tear up one national flag in public rather than just writing ill-willed heart on blogs hiding. Then he can see what will be torn up and dumped.

    Muhammed F—, do as you say and see.

    Thanks!

    • 5
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      Listen Yapa, just try and be rational and debate or argue as to why the flag should not be changed. Ok “tear up” talk has irked you but surely you should be able to see the bigger picture of the article!

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        When the mind is already biased it will see only one side of any issue. What is to be done?

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        This Yapa chap cannot see anything beyond his nose and he talks thro his Arse.

        When the Portuguese arrived in Sri Lanka, they must have met a few idiots like Yapa to come up with their famous quote about the Sinhalayas as Modayas.

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          Mohamed;

          “This Yapa chap cannot see anything beyond his nose and he talks thro his Arse.”

          Then kiss it.

          Thanks!

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        I want to be a thorn in the eyes of traitors like Mohamed and Mohamed F–, rather than to be falsely rational.

        Thanks!

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    Dear Muhammed Fazl!

    The National Flag of Sri Lanka is a modified flag of one of the three flags that were captured in 1815 by the British in the Kandyan Kingdom. It was then kept at the Chelsea Royal Military Hospital. A painted copy of it was obtained and it was published in the Sinhala paper Dinamina.

    Sinhala Theravada Buddhists at once associated the flag with the Sinhalese thinking that the lion symbolizes the Sinhalese people!

    They failed to conduct a scientific study of the flag, as they did not have any knowledge on the subjects Symbolization and Symbolization of Buddha and Buddhism.

    In the original flag of the Kandyan kingdom we find a male lion facing our left holding a raised sword placed at the centre of a rectangle with four pinnacles pointing inwards at the corners.

    In the Dambulla painting that depicts Duttagamani – Ellara fight also, we find similar lion with a raised sword facing our left, but kept at the centre of a square with two triangles each having two equal sides.

    Animal lion has nothing to do with a sword. Therefore the lion should symbolize a human.

    In one of the stories of the Commentary on Samjutta Nikkaya, we find Buddha being compared with male lion, horse, elephant and Bull.

    In the ancient coins and sculptures also, Buddha had been symbolized with these four animals. In the Buddhist temples and architecture we find these animals. In Mihintale Temple, Kanchi Thupi Gate Thoranas etc. etc we find these animals.

    In the Lion Capital of Saranath that symbolizes Buddha preaching the Four Noble Truths that emphasize the Middle path, we find on the cylindrical wall these four animals rolling Cakkras depicting Buddha rolling the Dhamma Cakkra! In the Tamil epic Manimekalai, Buddha preaching Dhamma in Lanka is being described as Buddha rolling Dhamma Cakkra in Lanka.

    Therefore the Lion in the flag may symbolize Buddha. But we have to confirm it through the other symbols.

    The Tamil Word for a sword is “VaaL”(வாள்). The grammarian Tolkaapiyan in his Tolkaapiyam has said: “VaaL OLiyaakum” (வாள் ஒளியாகும்). Therefore a sword could symbolize light, Enlightenment.

    Therefore this Lion in the flag is an Enlightened Lion, Lord Buddha!

    However, we have to confirm this with further evidence.

    The Lion in the flag is placed at the middle of a rectangle that has four pinnacles at the corners.

    The “Nature” of a rectangle with pinnacles at the corners is “a group of Four equally important things.”

    Therefore the rectangle with pinnacles at the corners could symbolize “the Four Noble Truths!

    Buddha who realized the Four Noble Truths adhered to what it emphasizes and attained Nibbana.

    It could be symbolized by placing the lion with sword at the centre of a rectangle with pinnacles at the corners.

    Therefore the lion flag of the Kandyan kingdom symbolizes Lord Buddha who adhered to what the Four Noble Truths emphasize and attained Nibbana!

    As the sacred Tooth relic was kept at Dalada Maligava in Kandy, this flag could have been hoisted at Dalada Maligava to symbolize reign of Buddha.

    The Parliamentary Select Committee with Sinhala Theravada Buddhists and others who did not know anything about Symbolization and Symbolization of Buddha and Buddhism,made modification in the original flag.

    Not knowing that the original flag symbolizes Lord Buddha and Buddhism, they removed the pinnacles at the corners of the rectangle and inserted Boa leaves with the explanation that the four leaves symbolize Metta, Karuna etc. and associated Buddhism with the Sinhalese!

    Mr. S. Paranavithana who was appointed as the Secretary to the Committee also did not know anything about Symbolization of Buddha and Buddhism consented it.

    S. Paranavithana who wrote a “Great Book on Brahmi Inscriptions of Lanka” was unable to understand what the 65 symbols that were found marked in different Combinations on the Brahmi inscriptions severally and jointly symbolize!

    Thus, when he died also, he died not have a scientific knowledge on Symbolization and Symbolization of Buddha and Buddhism!!

    Theravada Buddhism rejects symbolization and Symbolization of Buddha and Buddhism. Thus, it rejects Puranas,literatures,Dance,music and other fine arts!

    Mahayana Buddhism only accepts these.

    Therefore,when we speak about arts and architecture of Lanka, we cannot clain them as “Sinhalese Arts and Architecture.”

    We have to say “Lankan Mahayana Arts and Architecture.”

    Therefore, the Lion flag of Kandy should have been designed by Mahayana Buddhists,

    But, in designing the flag, the Tamil word “வாள்” (sword) has been used to symbolize Enlightenment!

    Therefore, the Lion flag of the Kandyan Kingdom should have been designed by Tamil Mahayana Buddhists who had a thorough knowledge on Symbolization and Symbolization of Buddha and Buddhism.

    Therefore, in the national flag of Sri Lanka, Sinhalese people have not been represented!

    On the other hand, in the National flag, the Tamils and Muslims are placed along with Lord Buddha!

    This is a great insult to Buddha and Buddhism!!

    Therefore, the National Flag of Sri Lanka is a symbol of IGNORANCE that insults Buddha and Buddhism!

    Will the politicians and religious leaders make necessary modification in the present national flag?

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      Abimanasingham Sitthawatthai Uthayakumar;

      Are you trying to cut pork keeping on the pig’s body? In Sinhala it is “Urage malu urage aenge thiyala kapanava.

      You are a shrewd crafty fellow.

      But we know how to recognize the fart from the door.

      Don’t waste your energy for fabricating lies.

      Thanks!

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    Muhammed Fazl -/Mohamed and Others who know about this;

    I have no much knowledge about Islam, therefore can one of you or all of you explain one of the great questions in Islam given below?

    [Edited out]
    Thanks!

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    Dear Countrymen,

    I’ve heard a lot of criticism as well as positive remarks… and I thank you all. Polarized opinions brings out the best in creativity. And is there anybody here among the readers who has a creative mind and who can come up with a newer and a sensible/suitable design…? As you all know by now, I am all for change!!
    :)

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      Muhammed Fazl

      Shock and Awe attracts attention and probably the most commented article in CT.

      A visual poll on this comments section supports the idea of Tearing Up The National Flag And Dumping It. However, in my opinion they are all want to dump the Ruling family tear up the Executive Presidency. A flag is a mere symbol and and what it represents today.

      Let all of us Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, and people of other faiths who “esteem an upright life” and seek truly to honour God and do His will embrace each other, seeking mutual understanding for the benefit of all men and women working together to preserve and promote peace, liberty, justice, and moral values. That’s where true success and happiness is found.

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      Change your mythical religion.

      Thanks!

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    Dear yapa!

    First of all, you conduct a scientific study on the archeological finds (Brahmi, Tamil, Sinhala inscriptions; coins; seals; sculptures; paintings, etc.) of Lanka and India.

    Yapa! Verbal language, letters, word, written language, literature, music, Dance. drama, iconography, painting, architecture etc. etc. are actually based on symbolization. It is a very vast field. It is the greatest human invention!

    You ask your reliable Lankan Archeologists and Historians whether they have conducted a scientific study on the subjects: “Symbolization” and “Symbolization of Buddha and Buddhism.

    For your information,so far, none of the archaeologists and historians of Lanka, India and the world has written any scientific article or book on these subject.

    If you want to reject my analysis, reject with evidence; reject it scientifically.

    You talk is rubbish!

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      Dear Abimanasingham Sitthawatthai Uthayakumar;

      You want me to be patient in front of the injustices done to us until all the things are established in terms of scientific investigations, while these bastards are coming to tear us into pieces????

      I identify farts not only by their sounds but their stinky smells too help. I am not an insensitive dumb fool.

      Thanks!

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    Muhammed Fazl

    You are indeed naive if you think you can get away with hate mongering against Sri Lanka and the majority of its people under the guise of advocating pluralism. We know it is the fashion now among the social wannabes with a little knowledge of English.

    Will you demonstrate the same delight in attacking the bigotry and exclusivism in your own Islamic culture? The national flag bothers you only in public space and that too in official functions. But will you do something about what your medieval religion demands you to swear allegiance to five times every day of your life? Will you speak out against the oppression inherent in Islam? Will you give equality to your women – your mother, sister, wife and daughter? Will you allow them to remove the primitive cloaks they are now forced to wear and allow them to show their faces to the world? Will you reject the barbaric Sharia Law practiced in Muslim societies? Do you have the courage to expose and condemn the rising tide of Islamic fundamentalism in Sri Lanka that is threatening the human rights of the Muslim people more than anything else?

    It’s too bad when we talk about pluralism and equality in your community we have to talk about Islam. Because Islam with its medieval ideology justifying irrational beliefs and social oppression is intertwined with your social structure and culture. We cannot talk about human rights and democracy in your community without talking about Islam. And of course I don’t have to remind you that the political ideal of all Muslims is unfortunately theocracy.

    So your rant against Sri Lanka and the majority of its people is egregiously offensive and unacceptable. Your blatant racism and hatred is embarrassingly transparent for someone aspiring to be a “politically correct” civil society wannabe.

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    The “primitive tribal flag of the Sinhalese”!! This is how-the roaring lion of the Sinhalese-Comrade Philip Gunawardne & father of Hon Dinesh Gunawardne stated in the State Council’ in 1938.Anyone dare challenge this??.Com.Philip was ashamed of this primitive tribal flag’. Also-according to the -Mahavansa–The origin of the Sinhalese-is traced to– the birth resulting in the Sexual affair between -the beast-the lion and ‘sinhala’?? female–the birth of Wijaya–& the decendents–the Sinhala race?? Arn’t You all not ashamed–of your ‘heritage’ by not Refuting this? Let us disown this description and the resultant ‘National Flag’. Let us take the ‘Chakara’ or the ‘Bo leaf’ as our national symbol. & be more proud of the noble philosophy of Budhism rather than the -the Beast. Does the brave ‘Lion’ need a ‘sword’ to show its prowess?? REDICULOUS!!–Wije–

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      For me the National flag represents violence with the sword and ferocious lion. Multiculturalism has to be explained to the new generation and it cannot be recognised by looking at the flag. Flag needs to be changed to make it less violent and reflect peace and harmony.
      Agree with the following statement” Let us take the ‘Chakara’ or the ‘Bo leaf’ as our national symbol. & be more proud of the noble philosophy of Budhism rather than the -the Beast. Does the brave ‘Lion’ need a ‘sword’ to show its prowess?? REDICULOUS!!–Wije–”
      But what I notice that in the articles published by CT the comments depend on who the writer is. His ethnicity and religion is commented and the comments has a slant to be racist. We need to look at the facts more than the writer.

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    At the time of establishing UNO, International Community identified three extinct races. They were Red Indians, Eskimos and the Sinhalese. But thanks to “Prabakaran” the Sinhalese will survive for another 1000 years because the world has come to know that there is a unique race called Sinhalese in Asia with over 2500 years documented history.

    When Asian Buddhist countries like Afghanistan, Malaysia, Indonesia, Maldives etc were becoming Muslim or Islam states during last 600 years Sinhalese Buddhist civilisation escaped extinction, thanks to Portuguese who came to Sri Lanka and chased away the Arab Traders.

    Similarly, now that awareness has been created of the “Sri Lankan Lion Flag” it will survive for next 1000 years.

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    Islam is not on trial here nor it is the subject. It is the the design, the origin and the rationale that is subjective. Some of you here should vent your anger based on the issue and not give rise to the deep embedded hatred you have for other communities… I sure hope the symbolic change of the flag would be the new begining for every Sri Lankan to treat another (irrespective of race/religion)with respect and dignity! May the teachings of Lord Buddha enlighten the narrow minded and the wicked…

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      You have again shown that your are not capable enough to understand the Islam connection to this article. Connection is this. You are a Muslim if you are not please say that you are not a Muslim. When you talk about peace through tearing national flag my first thought was Islamic Prophet Muhammad’s pagan temple destroying to achieve peace and attacking Persia with persecution of Persians. Persian left their land due to barbaric religion and now live in India as Parsi community. While following a this kind of a religion you ask Sinhalese Buddhists to change. So best thing to do is first you apostate Islam and be a non Muslim then ask to do what you have said. Be an good atheist or philosophical Buddhist (no need to be a Sinhalese Buddhist). Before you give advice you should follow the correct path. Then most people ll like to consider what you have said otherwise we have to think another Islamic plan to destroy Sinhala and Buddhism in Sri Lanka.

      According to me right hand posses of Islam is a war rape or prostitution for a life. Right hand posses are not Islamic extremist thing but it’s a divine Islamic teaching. Please comment if you think it’s not or for anything against what I have commented.

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      “Islam is not on trial here nor it is the subject. It is the the design, the origin and the rationale that is subjective.”

      Why you are afraid it is taken for the discussion? You fear the myth of Islam will be revealed?

      Those who cannot deviate from that great myth of faith based nonsense, how could they talk justifiably on anything.

      They cannot deviate from the obvious myth of their religion, but think they can discuss deep matters.

      You all rever a thug, a rapist and a day-light robber and talk about justice and fairness. You cannot get rid of that obvious myth but try to advice others. What a pack of fools!

      Thanks!

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      @Muhammed Fazl
      Please don’t whip up unnecessary hatred for our community by touching on totally unnecessary issues such as the redesigning of the national flag. You have already created enough hatred for the muslims, judging from the response here. Please refrain from embarking on silly ventures , however intellectual they may seem to you. Remember, our religion always advocates that peoples sensitivities have to be respected, whatever the issue. So enough said already. Please keep you trap shut and, if you have nothing better to do, go find a cat and shave its arse.

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        Best response! Thanks.

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        rameez,

        Why some people take such serious on this matter? why they are bringing religion and Quran etc. here?

        It’s a persons opinion as being a Sri Lankan citizen, and he has given certain proof why it should be changed. It is his personal thought since we are in Democratic country it is thought of a person. He did not insult Buddhism or Load Buddha here. But see some people here, how they insulted Islam and Muslims.

        It is as simple you may accept it or reject it, nothing to worry on this.

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          Alan;

          “Why some people take such serious on this matter? why they are bringing religion and Quran etc. here? It’s a persons opinion as being a Sri Lankan citizen, and he has given certain proof why it should be changed.”

          Bringing religion and quran also done as persons’ opinions being Sri Lanka citizens and world citizens. Why only these opinions are not permissible and the other opinions are permissible? bWe also give definite proofs (not certain proofs)why people should give up Islam.

          “It is his personal thought since we are in Democratic country it is thought of a person.”

          We also use that democratic right to give opinions and facts regarding some false beliefs. So why it is wrong.

          “He did not insult Buddhism or Load Buddha here.”

          We also did not insult Islam, but expressed the truth about Islam. If you take truth as an insult it is nobody’s fault but yours. We respect truth but not untruth.

          “But see some people here, how they insulted Islam and Muslims.”

          You reap as you sow”. Muhammed F— has sown the seeds.

          “It is as simple you may accept it or reject it, nothing to worry on this.”

          It is not. You yourself have said in a comment responding to me “So, as human beings our duty to find out the truth.”

          So why not find truth. Your previous statement does not fit with the above statement.

          Don’t just accept or reject, but do your duty rendered upon humans and find truth in Islam as well.

          You want to neglect your duty rest upon you by not finding truth in Islam? You cannot be a Muslim the according to your Holy teaching.

          Tell me are you a real Muslim?

          Thanks!

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            yapa,

            National Flag and religion is different my friend……….This is where you made misunderstand.

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              Alen;

              Yes, they are different. But is Islam selective in finding truth? To find the truth about flags and not to find truth about religions?

              Thanks!

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                Yapa,

                Stick to the topic you idiot.

                This thread is not about Islam or any other religion, but our National flag!

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                  kattakarawala (srinking dried fish);

                  Mind your own business without poking stinking nose into my affairs?

                  You found it a difficult pill to swallow?

                  If possible refute my arguments, you fake heroes?

                  Thanks!

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                    Yapa,

                    You have totally lost it! It is disappointing the way you respond convoluting religion with this debate. What is clear is that you have nothing constructive to say or defend the current flag!Please stop making insipid comments.

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                      Dear Burning_Issue;

                      It is very constructive for my objective, to give a good beating to ungrateful buggers who live on our mother country and eat it.

                      Thanks!

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                      Dear Burning_Issue;

                      They are trying to attack the most painful place of ours. Why should I be different?

                      (I know the law, dear Burning_Issue)

                      Thanks!

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                  kattakarawala (srinking dried fish);

                  Do you think that particular topic was created by the GOD and others are not only to talk about the former?

                  I have no faith in God’s recommendations.

                  Thanks!

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    muhammed Fazl,

    ” sure hope the symbolic change of the flag would be the new begining for every Sri Lankan”

    A mind change by people like you can make that change happen and there is no need to change our flag. Overall Sinhala character of the island has to be respected by you guys. If you really want we can strip the Green Stripe of the Sinha Kodiya

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    I disagree,

    Our flag is the most perfect representation of our selves. The only improvement I would suggest is that the lion should be facing the other way without pointing the menacing sword toward towards the minorities, it should point it the other way to the rest of the world that condemns it for its animosity – for which it is now globally recognized.

    The Lion represents the Sinhalese aggression – while giving them the comfort that the Bo-leaves inserted in all four corners make them Buddhist.

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      Kiri Yaka,

      You suggestion to turn the lion the other way would be a disaster; it would then be showing its backside to the minorities on the flag!!!!!

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    [Edited out]

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    It seems that Israel is doing a great service to the whole world, by suppressing these venomous creatures who bite the hand given to them. Our kings have done a great mistake not allowing Portuguese to eliminate these serpents, and protecting them giving lands all over the country to them.

    These creatures changed the whole religious composition in Europe by invasions, killed Hindus in India, destroyed the Buddhist temples and Buddhist universities and libraries like Nalanda killing all those lived there. Indonesia, Malaysia, Afghanistan, Maldives … all those were converted into that mythical religion and now they are trying to preach us. Whole world will have to come together to face this great threat faced by the whole world by this uncivilized barbarian religious practicing bastards.

    Thanks!

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      yapa,

      Barbarian religion who practice in the world you will know if you really read your books. And you should read and understand the other religious scriptures too. then you will really know who is you are?

      We respect Load Buddha and his Philosophy not the Monk Mahanama Sinhala Buddhism.

      You need further education to know the real fact brother.

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        Alan;

        I have read a lot. There is no substance in religions of Creator God.

        Creation is a myth and the religions based on it is no different. Islam has no basis to defend it. If you say there is a basis as a “man who claimed to have red a lot of books, can you defend the Creator god of Islam.

        I challenge you the man who claimed to have red a lot.

        I think you must have red a lot of “Green Books” (Kola Poth).

        Thanks!

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          yapa,

          I respect Load Buddha’s teachings. I hope he has no where mentioned that GOD not exist, May be he believed in GOD, may not. Have you ever happened to read Quran and understand it? Have you ever happened to know who is prophet Muhammad?

          Do you heard about Sir Michael H. Hart? read below,

          http://www.amaana.org/ismailim.html

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_100:_A_Ranking_of_the_Most_Influential_Persons_in_History.

          Islam accepts all previous religions and Prophets, and further says last and final Messenger is Muhammad and last final revelation by GOD is Quran. Quran says there is no compulsion in religion. All the Human being are same. All the creatures should be worshiped to GOD, but human being has an option. And the best creation by GOD is human being. So, as human beings our duty to find out the truth. Nobody can not force you to accept any religion and it’s your choice.
          There are many scientifically proof about the creations which has mentioned in Quran 1400y before. But Quran is not a science book.

          See what
          Dr. Gary Miller says (he was a Christian missionary from Canada), you may Google it you will find many people who challenge the Quran and finally accepted the Quran.

          http://www.discoveringislam.org/dr_gary_miller.htm

          Here I did not come to debate about religion….it’s your choice. But keep it in mind don’t follow what others do, you must try to find out the truth. It is Load Buddha’s word and I respect it.

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            Alan;

            “…. and further says last and final Messenger is Muhammad and last final revelation by GOD is Quran. Quran says there is no compulsion in religion. All the Human being are same. All the creatures should be worshiped to GOD, but human being has an option. And the best creation by GOD is human being. So, as human beings our duty to find out the truth.”

            How do u know?

            “There are many scientifically proof about the creations which has mentioned in Quran 1400y before.”

            What proofs? I can refute creation. Creation is myth. Therefore, Islam based on creation is also a myth.

            Thanks!

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              yapa,

              You may check the link I have posted before. I hope you will find it something….

              yes everything is myth……it’s your duty to find out the truth.

              If there is no GOD, you don’t required temple, mosque, church etc…and you don’t required statue, Monks, mullahs, pastors, imams etc. Also you don’t need cast, you don’t need to see nekath, kenthraya etc.

              You know in Load Buddha’s philosophy there is no statue, cast or nekath, kendraya etc…. it is just simple you may follow it or ignore it…..but don’t die until you find out the truth.

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                Alan;

                What a confused mind you have Alen?

                The link you have sent is good for fools who believe things in faith. I am not a faith believer. For me to believe something that must be in par with the standards of Epistemology. Have you heard of Epistemology?

                You must be able to prove me and others if you want to convince others, just giving a joking link won’t do. Such links are available for every religion, however, availability of a link is not reason to believe what it contains. Religious jargon are for blind faith believers and not for people who can think independently. No scholar or university would accept anything as true and correct just because it is mentioned in a religious book. Your link doesn’t have any sense for those who do not believe things in it in blind faith. Please give another try, but a reasonable which can be believed by unconditioned minds as well.

                “If there is no GOD, you don’t required temple, mosque, church etc…and you don’t required statue, Monks, mullahs, pastors, imams etc. Also you don’t need cast, you don’t need to see nekath, kenthraya etc.”

                What a senseless conclusion. You claimed that you have read a lot. Can you show me how you reasonably arrived at that conclusion? How does the statement “there is no GOD” imply all those list of things you have mentioned randomly. You know in Buddhism there is no creator God, but there are monks and temples, which disproves your illogical conclusion. Buddhism clearly rejects the existence of a creator god and with fundamental I can prove that there cannot be a creator.

                “You know in Load Buddha’s philosophy there is no statue, cast or nekath, kendraya etc….”

                Can you substantiate your statement?

                “it is just simple you may follow it or ignore it….”

                It is simple???? Only fools would say Buddhism is simple. It is a deep philosophy, religion and a way of life which extends both the spheres of mundane and transcendental. Buddhism contains in three baskets called Vinaya, Sutta and Abhidhamma. Do you know anything in Abhidhamma? Do you know the path to the pinnacle to Buddhism, Nirvana?

                If the Buddhism is that simple you must now be in Nirvana, not fighting with me writing what you don’t know.

                “…but don’t die until you find out the truth.”

                What a statement? You think you and I are in control of our lives not to die until we want? I think you have no an iota of idea of the nature. You cannot avoid death, that is one of the crux ideas taught in Buddhism.

                What Buddhism are you talking?

                Understanding Buddhism is not easy as blind believing of mythical religions. You believe what is easy to believe, but not the truth. Any fool can do it. Believing in faith is a foolish idea.

                Now you answer with your well read mind to me.

                Thanks!

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                  yapa

                  “It is simple???? Only fools would say Buddhism is simple. It is a deep philosophy, religion and a way of life which extends both the spheres of mundane and transcendental. Buddhism contains in three baskets called Vinaya, Sutta and Abhidhamma. Do you know anything in Abhidhamma? Do you know the path to the pinnacle to Buddhism, Nirvana? “

                  So, now are agreeing that Buddhism is deep philosophy.

                  Thanks and no point on discussion with you.

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            Alan;

            You are believing what you were taught/conditioned. There is no any reason to believe so, other than your blind faith. Faith is not a good truth finding technique.

            Tell me how do you know that there is a creator god (other than that conditioned belief)? What do you have to say about Theory of Evolution by Charles Darwin? According to holy books of creation the world was created about 6000 years back. Do you believe it?

            Muslims are definitely myth believers who has no an iota of sense about reality.

            Thanks!

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              yapa

              Did buddha tell you there is no GOD?

              “According to holy books of creation the world was created about 6000 years back. Do you believe it?”

              Which holy book says world is only 6000 Years?

              “Muslims are definitely myth believers who has no an iota of sense about reality.”

              Not only Muslims, Christians, Jews, Hindus etc believe in GOD. And there are even some Buddhists Believe in GOD…….

              You tell me why hardly there is no Tamil Buddhists in Sri Lanka???????

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            Alan;

            “Have you ever happened to read Quran and understand it? Have you ever happened to know who is prophet Muhammad?”

            Have you heard about “Sampling”, in Statistics?

            I don’t need to drink a barrel of urine to know its taste. Same way I don’t need to read the whole Quran to know that it contains total myth.

            If you want I can teach you Statistics as well.

            Thanks!

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              yapa ,

              You are so much disturbed yourself my friend……………
              Just spent your time on learning the Load Buddhas Philosophy or Religion what ever you call it.

              Thanks.

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                Alen;

                Please see my reply below as a new comment to all of the unanswered comments by you.

                Thanks!

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    Dear Mr Muhammed Fazi,

    Fools rush in where Angles fear to tread aptly describes your literary attempt. So far you have not defended your article and it is doubtful you ever will.

    It is really foolish to haggle over the Lion emblem. It is just and emblem that the Sinhalese chose to represent themselves with. That choice is for the Sinhalese and the Sinhalese alone and cannot be dictated to by Muslims, Tamils or anyone else. The Jaffna kingdom used a Bull as their emblem and that is for the people of Jaffna and they alone to decide. Spain uses a Lion amongst several others to represent them and that is their choice and not for any fool to dictate to them.

    Re “SL never had lions nor was a bone ever found”

    An emphatic statement though ill educated on the subject.
    Fossils of Lions, Tigers, Hipos and Rhinos have been found in Lanka.

    Quote
    A second extinct big cat, tentatively considered to be a tiger (Panthera tigris), is recorded from Sri Lanka for the first time from a fossil left lower carnassial found in alluvium near Ratnapura in 1962 and a sub-fossil right middle phalanx 14C dated to ~ 16,500 ybp, discovered in 1982 in a prehistoric midden at Batadomba Cave, near Kuruwita. The species is diagnosed from the only other big cats known from Sri Lanka, Panthera pardus and the extinct P. leo sinhaleyus Deraniyagala, 1938. This record significantly advances the timing of dispersal of tigers into the Indian peninsula. Tigers appear to have arrived in Sri Lanka during a pluvial period during which sea levels were depressed, evidently prior to the last glacial maximum ca. 20,000 years ago. The lion appears to have become extinct in Sri Lanka prior to the arrival of culturally modern humans, ca. 37,000 ybp.
    unquote

    The Land bridge between India and Sri Lanka is only 10m below present sea level. The sea level in prehistoric times was 120m below current levels and the land bridge was over 80km wide. Hence if Lions existed in India it would be downright foolish to exclude the possibility of their existence in Lanka.

    Quote
    Based on present-day submarine topography, a functional land bridge between Sri Lanka and India requires a sea-level lowering of only ~ 10 m. Sea levels were ~ 120 m below present-day levels at the last glacial maximum ca. 20,000 ybp (Siddall et al., 2003), thus facilitating a more than 80 km-wide terrestrial connection. It appears likely that sea levels were sufficiently depressed during the final ~ 200,000 years of the Pleistocene to have supported a land connection between Sri Lanka and India for all or most of that time (Bossuyt et al., 2004), and probably until 5,000–10,000 ybp (S. Deraniyagala, 1992; Anderson, 1998; Yokoyama et al., 2000).
    unquote

    Re “Talking of origins, neither the race, its people or the language is native and it all evolved from Asia, particularly India, Nepal etc…”

    Another foolish utterance. The Sinhalese did not come here, they evolved here from Indian Tamil, Bengali and Veddha parent stock (according to a Indian scientific study). Their identity is their Language, which is unique to Lanka and is not spoken anywhere else.

    The Lanka Tamils are from Sinhala, Indian Tamil and Bengali parent stock (according to the same Indian study). The Muslims are from Arabic, Sinhalese and Tamil Parent stock. Lanka is home to all of them, Indian Origin Tamils and many others. Almost all have been born here. That’s all that matters.

    Re “And of bravery, now that is a far cry from reality.”

    With all due respect to captain Shahul Hameed Nilam and Major Tuan Nizam Muthaliff and many other Muslim, Tamil, Burgher and Sinhala brave soldiers who fought and eradicated terrorism you are an ingrate who brings shame to your own community.

    Instead of vomiting all over yourself like a drunkard after a binge, educate yourself and read up on the Uva Wellassa uprising.

    Re “One might wonder how the Sinhala race-led government sustained the war. First it was the ‘Sinhala-only’ policy”

    Can you explain what this policy is? How was it implemented? Was it modified and when was it modified? While you are at it, please explain the Time Gap between the enactment of the policy and the protests.

    Re “followed by the marginalization of the minorities of every government in power that instigated the uprising of the Tamils, ”

    The Minorities were marginalised but only the Lanka Tamils revolted!
    What about the Muslims? Why did they not join the Lanka Tamils in that revolt if they were marginalised?

    Perhaps the MANY Muslims who held MANY powerful Ministries such as Education, Foreign Affairs, Finance, Home Affairs, Posts and Broadcasting, Trade and Commerce, Labour, Employment, Housing, Transport, Justice etc had something to do with it.

    What about the Indian Tamils, Malays, the Kafirs, the Burghers? Why didn’t they revolt?

    The Sri Lanka Armed Forces does not Conscript and depends ONLY on Voluntary enlistment. Hence can you explain why members of the Minority communities enlist to serve in the Armed Forces if they are Marginalised?

    A Lanka Tamil Mr Rudra Rajasingham, Headed of the Police dept as the Inspector General of Police 1982-1985. He headed Police operations during the 1983 black July pogrom. On retirement he became the Sri Lankan Ambassador to Indonesia. Later he became the Chairman of the State Mortgage and Investment Bank. He was also a founder member of the Commission to Investigate Allegations on Bribery and Corruption.

    A Lanka Tamil, Deshamanya Suppiah Sharvananda was Chief Justice from 1984 – 1988. He was the Head of the Judiciary while the War was raging. He was the FIRST Governor of the MOST POPULOUS and OVERWHELMINGLY Sinhala Majority Western Province from 1988 – 1994. There were Many Sinhalese who could have filled that position with distinction and yet a Lanka Tamil was appointed. The above two are just a few from the many.

    Funny way to MARGINALISE the Minorities and especially the Lanka Tamils!

    Re “followed by the government’s lack of will to find a peaceful solution,”

    Prabjakaran the Mass Murderer and Megalomaniac was offered the COMBINED North and East Provinces (a combined area of nearly 40% of Lanka and 60% of her coast line) for a period of 10 years by President Chandrika Kumaratunge which was rejected and you have the temerity to say that the Govt lacked the will?

    In your intellectual opinion what was derelict?

    Re “give equality,”

    Like appointing a Tamil to be the Governor of the most populous Province in Lanka and for that matter a Sinhala Majority Province to boot!

    Re “separate state & religion”

    For over Two and a Half Millennia, from the start of recorded history, Sri Lanka was never a Secular State. It was not so even under Colonial Rule. The UK is not Secular. The US says it is but advertises God in one of their most important and proliferate documents. The protection given to Buddhism in Sri Lanka is insignificant to the protection given to Islam by Muslim States or to the Church of England in the UK. How many Muslims States are Really Secular?

    Re “& aiding the enemy with funds & weapons which resulted in it lasting longer with lethal devastation! Eliminating a rag-tag army of under 10,000 by a well equipped force of over 300,000 strong and dragging it for over 25 long years wouldn’t be considered ‘bravery’ in my book either”

    What an ignoramus you have proven to be!
    Please read up on “Operation Poomalai”
    If not for that, the War would have been over in 1987!

    Kind Regards,
    OTC

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      OTC has entered the stage! Yapa must have rung the alarm bells!

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        Dear Burning_Issue;

        Kasakaraya came first. Now it is time for the Perahara (procession).

        Wait and see what will happen to Muhammed F— and the accomplices, they will run like rats not facing the challenge. Will you please ask that brave guy to respond, if he is brave enough? Bloody donkeys in lion’s skins.

        Thanks!

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    [Edited out]

    Please write instead of posting blog links – CT

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    Dear Off the cliff,

    First let me thank you for the trouble you have taken to comment.

    1/ It is really foolish to haggle over the Lion emblem. It is just an emblem that the Sinhalese chose to represent themselves with. That choice is for the Sinhalese and the Sinhalese alone and cannot be dictated to by Muslims, Tamils or anyone else”

    I as a citizen have a right to voice my opinion against that which I think is not right or fair. However the small issue it may be to you, I choose to think otherwise. Sinhalese can choose any flag and call it the ‘Sinhala flag’ and that would be quite alright with me. But we are talking about a National flag here where every community should be part of. And what Spain does is no concern to me.

    2/ “SL never had lions nor was a bone ever found”

    SL NEVER had lions and Mr. Deraniyagal (who was a Sinhala Buddhist) whose ‘mysterious find’ was NEVER corroborated by any leading local or international Archeologists. I will be more than willing to inspect his ‘find’ since it had existed for centuries, I am also pretty sure it would be an item of exhibit in some government department at present. To cut the fables short, it was HIS OPINION with too many ‘appears to have arrived’ and ‘appears to have become extinct’. A bunch of baloney without a doubt.

    3/ Re “Talking of origins, neither the race, its people or the language is native and it all evolved from Asia, particularly India, Nepal etc…”

    I stand by my belief that people, religions, race and the language were foreign. Humanity sure did not begin in SL and even the Veddha community resembles that of the people of Bengal if not originating from. Sinhala with over 4000 Tamil/Hindu words in the vocabulary, not forgetting the inclusion of English/Portugese words is NOT a unique language.

    4/ Re “And of bravery, now that is a far cry from reality.”
    With all due respect to the people you mentioned, let me remind you once again that I was writing about a flag in times of independence and about a struggle vis-à-vis a foreign colonial power. The armed forces did wage war against a marginalized section of the country and there were valiant fighters and cowards existed on both ends, no doubt. But it took 25 odd years thanks to treacherous acts of some of our ‘Sinhala leaders’ who funded the enemy with weapons & funds, and to be reminded of the non existence of ‘rules-of-engagement’ especially during the last stages of the war casts a dark shadow over all the glory that was achieved over the years.

    There were also rebellion and banditry, true. But the ‘uprising’ in 1818 did not culminate in SL getting independence in 1948. Hence my statement ‘our independence was NOT hard fought’.

    5/ Re “One might wonder how the Sinhala race-led government sustained the war. First it was the ‘Sinhala-only’ policy”…

    According to Jonathan Spencer, a social anthropologist from the School of Social and Political Studies of the University of Edinburgh, the war is an outcome of how modern ethnic identities have been made and re-made since the colonial period, with the political struggle between minority Tamils and the Sinhala-dominant government accompanied by rhetorical wars over archeological sites and place name etymologies, and the political use of the national past.

    The Ceylon Citizenship Act of 1948, which denied citizenship to Sri Lankans of Indian origin followed by the ‘Sinhala Only Bill’ act, passed by the government of Ceylon in 1956 making Sinhala the official language of the country and was the first step taken by the new government of S.W.R.D. Bandaranaike to realize one of the main campaign promises that had brought about his landslide victory in the 1956 general election. Violently opposed by the Tamil-speaking minority in Ceylon, the passage of the bill was followed by rioting. Such severe rioting and communal violence ensured that mass internal migrations of Tamils and Sinhalese occurred, and a state of emergency was declared.

    In August 1958 The Tamil Language (Special Provisions) Act was passed, providing for the use of Tamil for certain administrative purposes and as a medium of instruction in secondary and higher education, a measure that temporarily mollified but did not satisfy either the Tamils or the more extremist Sinhalese.

    In response to the parliamentary act in 1956, Federal Party MPs staged a non violent sit in (satyagraha) protest, but it was broken up by a nationalist mob. The police and other state authorities present at the location failed to take action to stop the violence. The FP was cast as scapegoats and were briefly banned after the 1958 riots in which many were killed and thousands of Tamils forced to flee their homes.

    Another point of marginalization of the Tamils was state sponsored colonization schemes that had the effect of changing the demographic balance in the Eastern province in favor of majority Sinhalese that the Tamil nationalists considered to be their traditional homeland

    In the 1970s importing Tamil-language films, books, magazines, journals, etc. from the cultural hub of Tamil Nadu, India was banned. Sri Lanka also banned local groups affiliated with groups such as the Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam (DMK) and the Tamil Youth League. Foreign exchange for the long established practice of Tamil students going to India for university education was stopped.This had the effect of culturally cutting off the links between Tamil Sri Lankan and Tamils from India. The then government insisted that these measures were part of a general program of economic self-sufficiency as part of its socialist agenda and not targeted against the Tamil minority

    In 1973 the policy of standardization was implemented by the Sri Lankan government to what they believed was to rectify disparities created in university enrollment in Sri Lanka under British colonial rule. It was in essence an affirmative action scheme to assist geographically disadvantaged students to gain tertiary education. The resultant benefits enjoyed by Sinhalese students also meant a significant fall in the number of Tamil students within the Sri Lankan university student populace.

    And let us also not forget how mobs went on rampage on the nights of May 31 to June 2 burning the market area of Jaffna, the office of the Tamil Newspaper, the home of the member of Parliament for Jaffna, the Jaffna Public Library and killing four people.The destruction of the Jaffna Public Library was the incident which appeared to cause the most distress to the people of Jaffna. The 95,000 volumes of the Public Library destroyed by the fire included numerous culturally important and irreplaceable manuscripts. Witnesses reported the presence of uniformed police officers in the mob and their involvement in the deaths of four individuals.

    And should I remind you of the Sinhala-led government’s failure to contain the violence against Tamils in 1983?

    As for the Muslims not rising up, you have to ask that question from the Muslim leaders at that time. Also giving plum posts to few individuals does not indicate equality.

    6/ Re “followed by the government’s lack of will to find a peaceful solution,”

    ‘The combined offer’ was only a talk at its best and it was NEVER a concrete or a serious proposal in any of the peace talks, nor would it have been practical with no quarters of the Muslim/Sinhala community supporting it.

    7/ Re “separate state & religion”

    In a multi racial/religious country such as ours, it would have been better if it was secular. I don’t go by other standards in other countries. If I ever do, I would choose the law of separation of State & Religion as in the USA where I used to live.

    8/ Re “& aiding the enemy with funds & weapons

    India’s moral and material support is well known. But as per my understanding, our Mr. Mahinda Rajapakese allegedly funding the LTTE to win his first term and President Premadasa allegedly giving arms to the same among others & the lethargic attitudes of the chiefs of SL armed forces towards the war contributed to the lengthy period. In this scenario, I give most of the credit to General Fonseka for his steadfastness in his resolve.

    Finally, I end this with a great saying by a great person and whose saying I have included on my FB profile: “A hero is not coz someone puts on a uniform and picked up a weapon… but because he put it down and stood up for the truth” – Dahlia Wasfi, M.D.

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      Hey, what the heck are you trying to do man? Dont jump from the frying pan into the fire and drag the community along. Your latest rebuttal now seems to metamorphise from the design of the national flag to being a proxy for LTTE. Are you on Meth, man?

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      The resultant benefits enjoyed by Sinhalese students also meant a significant fall in the number of Tamil students within the Sri Lankan university student populace.

      In 1969, the Northern Province, which was largely populated by Tamils and comprised 7% of the population of the country, provided 27.5 percent of the entrants to science based courses in Sri Lankan universities. (Tamil student population was as high 45% in Medicine and Engineering.)
      After standardization, this was reduced to 7%. However, the hardest hit population group were the urban Tamils and Sinhalese in the Western Province, which contained 26% of the islands population. In 1969, the Western Province provided 67.5 percent of admissions to science based courses. This reduced to 27% in 1974, after the law came into effect. The majority of the share enjoyed by Jaffna Tamils were distributed among Tamils in other areas ( Eastern province, Hill country and Muslims) . Majority of the share enjoyed by Colombo was distributed among rest of the Sinhalese. [source Wikepedia and affirmative action policies by K.M.de Silva]

      So what is the reduction in Tamil student intake that you consider unjustified?

      Language based standardization was wrong not because it reduced the intake of Tamil students but because it didn’t reduce intake of Sinhala students from Colombo.

      By independence, Tamils accounted for over 30% of government services admissions, a share larger than their proportion in the general population—i.e., Sri Lankan and Indian Tamils have never totaled more than 25%. By 1956, it is estimated that Tamils constituted 50% of the clerical personnel of the railway, postal and customs services, 60% of
      all doctors, engineers and lawyers, and 40% of other labor forces.

      Too bad we did’t maintain the status quo to present day right?

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      Dear Muhammad Fazi,

      I am posting this from my phone and hence will break up my response to manageable parts.sorry for the inconvenience.

      1) Re your right. Thank your stars that you are a Sri Lankan and not an Indian or a Singaporean.

      2) Does race and religion devalue a scientific report?
      Apparently you are ignorant of the Raffels Bulletin of Zoology
      Please refer to 2005 supplement No 12:423-434 for pictures, measurements, geographic co ordinates, their current location etc.

      You have ignored the significance of the land bridge of nearly half the current max width of Lanka. With such a wide terrestrial connection with India only a fool would venture to be emphatic that animals found in India would respect country boundaries and stay within India itself.

      More later
      Kind regards
      OTC

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      Dear Muhammed Fazi,

      This is a continuation of my previous response.

      3) It is not the origins that matter but the ground situation. Your belief has no relevance in proving or disproving anything just as your belief in a Creator God does not prove His existence.

      Lanka has a 75% Sinhala Population. They speak Sinhala a language not spoken anywhere else in the world. That itself is proof that they evolved in Lanka.

      USA, Canada, Australia and the whole of Spanish speaking South America are all immigrant nations. So what is the point you are trying to make?

      If the inclusion of words with a foreign root demeans a language then English would be very poor indeed deprived of the Latin, German, French and even Indian words.

      Your search for Purity would be Similar to GG Ponnambalams declaration that he was a Proud Dravidian implying that the Dravidians exclusively married Dravidians! Did God create the Dravidians and installed them in Tamil Nadu? Did they not inter marry with other races?

      4) Re Bravery, please don’t try to back track on what you wrote. You wrote about Colonial History and was slandering the Sinhalese.

      Again you are writing about a 25 year long war. Apparently you are clueless about the Operation Poomalai that I referred to in my previous post. If not for that the war would have ended in 4 years. Please read up on it before making a fool of yourself.

      5) Please read my reply to Abimanasingham. The First Race Riots between the Sinhalese and Tamils erupted in 1939 instigated by a Tamil Racist, GG Ponnambalam. Read the Jaffna based, Tamil owned, Tamil reported and Tamil edited “Hindu Organ” of that vintage to get a glimpse of what happened.

      That was not about place names and etymologies.

      Before that the Tamils were fighting amongst Tamils. A ruling class consisting of 25% of Northern Tamils were enslaving the Tamil majority of 75% servile Tamils. You are just repeating the Propaganda of that 25% inhuman Tamils who kept the Tamil majority as slaves by denying them and Education, mobility of domicile and social and economic mobility. Ask yourself why leaders of that 25% tried to manipulate the British in to codifying inhuman clauses that would have perpetuated the enslavement of majority Tamils!

      The Indian Tamils were COMPLETE ALIENS to Lanka when they were first brought in by the Brits. Their numbers exceeded the Lanka Tamil population in Lanka at that time. They were brought because the Sinhalese refused to work as slaves in the Lands they owned before it was grabbed by the Brit’s govt using draconian Laws such as the Waste Lands Ordinance/Acts and related draconian Laws.

      The Aliens were settled on the Lands that were grabbed and stolen from the Sinhalese. It was like colonising the Sinhala Hinterland with ALL the Lanka Tamils that existed at the time by EVICTING the Sinhalese.

      What is the solution? Evict the Indian Tamils to give back possession to the rightful owners?

      The Indian Tamils were British Subjects and Indian Citizens. They were not Ceylon citizens. The Citizenship Act stipulated the conditions that were to be satisfied in order to grant citizenship to those who deserved it. You cannot get citizenship of any country without meeting their requirements. The Citizenship Act was TESTED right up to the Privy Council in UK and it was found Fair and Valid.

      You are just repeating Separatist Tamil Propaganda either because you have no knowledge of the real facts or because you yourself have a separatist agenda.

      The crux of the problem is GREED and insatiable greed of that 25% Ruling Class of Tamils. For them equality means a loaded scale in favour of them.

      More to follow,
      Kind Regards,
      OTC

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    Dear Off the Cuff,

    Re “followed by the marginalization of the minorities of every government in power that instigated the uprising of the Tamils, ”

    You say: ”Funny way to MARGINALISE the Minorities and especially the Lanka Tamils!”

    Dear Off the Cuff!

    The Para – 8.150 of the LLRC Report says:

    “The Commission takes the view that the root cause of the ethnic conflict in Sri Lanka lies in the failure of successive Governments to address the genuine grievances of the Tamil people. The country may not have been confronted with a violent separatist agenda, if the political consensus at the time of independence had been sustained and if policies had been implemented to build up and strengthen the confidence of the minorities around the system which had gained a reasonable measure of acceptance.”

    The Para- 8.163 of the LLRC Report says:

    “The decisive rift in the inter-ethnic relationship came first with the riots of 1958, then in1977, and culminating in what is known as ‘Black July’ of 1983, and the heinous failure of the then Government to provide adequate protection to Tamil citizens. The problems pertaining to the Tamil Community and their grievances cannot be fully addressed without a fuller understanding of this culture of violence that marred the relationship between the Sinhala and Tamil communities.”

    The Para-28 of the UN Panel Report says:

    “After independence, political elites tended to prioritize short-term political gains, appealing to communal and ethnic sentiments, over long-term policies, which could have built an inclusive state that adequately represented the multicultural nature of the citizenry. Because of these dynamics and divisions, the formation of a unifying national identity has been greatly hampered. Meanwhile, SINHALA-BUDDHIST NATIONALISM GAINED TRACTION, ASSERTING A PRIVILEGED PLACE FOR THE SINHALESE AS THE PROTECTORS OF SRI LANKA,AS THE SACRED HOME OF BUDDHISM. THESE FACTORS RESULTED IN DEVASTATING AND ENDURING CONSEQUENCES FOR THE NATURE OF THE STATE, GOVERNANCE AND INTER-ETHNIC RELATIONS IN SRI LANKA.”

    But, you have written: ”Funny way to MARGINALISE the Minorities and especially the Lanka Tamils!”

    Do you say that the Present Government of H.E. Mahinda Rajapakse should have rejected the LLRC Report and refused to implement the Recommendations made in it?

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      Dear Abimanasigham,

      Please excuse the short replies as I am still commenting from my phone.

      The LLRC is wrong about the decisive rift. The decisive rift came about in 1939 with the FIRST Sinhala Tamil Riots of the 20 th century Which was instigated by GG Ponnambalam, a Tamil Racist. Before that, Tamils were only fighting Tamils. The 75% Tamil majority of the North were fighting a 25% landed and wealthy minority of ruling Tamils who were oppressing them. This ruling class of Tamils were control freaks and even attempted to perpetuate their control by getting inhuman laws codified in the Ceylon constitution.

      It was this 25% Tamil control freaks that marginalised the 75% Tamils not the Sinhalese. The Sinhalese gave the Lanka Tamils Top positions in govt a few examples were given in my previous post. Compare what you did to the Tamils of the North. Hence yes it is a funny way to marginalise by appointing Lanka Tamils to positions of very high responsibility such as Governor of the most populous Sinhala Province, Chief Justice, Police Chief for Lanka etc. You do not know the meaning of marginalisation.

      They were an inhuman lot consumed by the greed for power and wealth at the expense of the rest of Lankas population. Even as far back as 1920 s the Tamil political leadership wanted to create a TamilAkam or a Tamil land that included Tamil Nadu, Kerala, Andra Pradesh Karnataka and a large part of Lanka!

      The ethnic conflict was due to the desire of that ruling class of Tamils to maintain their superiority in the political, officialdom and the economy of Lanka that they gained during colonial times.

      The ethnic conflict is sustained today due to the GREED of the same Tamil ruling class to an unconscionable share of Lankas resources for the exclusive sustenance of about 6% of the population. Evidence of that greed is seen in the claim they make to land ( almost 40% of Lankas land and 60% of her sea coast). That greed is insatiable and Dr Jane Russell observed as “the more and more rapacious demands of the Tamils”.

      The Land South of Elephant Pass was the Kandyan Kingdom of the Sinhalese and yet like the proverbial Camel that was given shelter, that insatiable greed lays exclusive claim to even that land!

      The UN panel (the infamous Darusman panel) has exonerated the LTTE of the war crime of using a human shield by attempting to prostitute the ICRC law. That has exposed the ulterior motives of Darusman, Yasmin Sooka etc and has rendered their observations worthless.

      Kind Regards,
      OTC

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    Soon people will be tearing up the Koran!

    Some even burning it.

    Fun.

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      Really we are not for tearing up Quran. But if tearing up of National flag is justifiable I think no one can deny that tearing up of Quran too is justifiable.

      If tearing up of National flag is not justifiable, then none can say that tearing up of Quran is justifiable.

      That is the rationale behind our protest.

      Not that we want to tear it up, just like Muhammed F— and the accomplices want to tear up the national flag and dump it. We are not extremists and fundamentalists like Muhammed F— and the accomplices. We just brought up counter arguments to refute that ill willed argument.

      Thanks!

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        What a waste of productive time discussing a flag. Can a poor country efford to create more enemies in this day and age of transparent communication (Prism)

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          Transparent communication does not seem to be always right. I think it is always better to selective communicate that are “true” and “good”.

          I think “Freedom of Expression” is an incorrect pill sent down the throats of humans.

          Not only in communication in anything “untrue” and “bad” should be avoided.

          In essence, “Freedom” is a word used in prostitution by many.

          You may ask Sharmini Serasinga, Dr. Jagat Asoka and Muhammed Fazl, they will testify for my claim.

          Thanks!

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    I am very much sad to see that this place is full of idiots.

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    fazi, you are not worthy of your first name… in fact most of you who use that first name, because you always disrespect that name and person. No wonder you guys have any flag or pictures.. etc..

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    Faci,
    before you talk such rubbish about sri Lanka, you must ask your religious leaders, why you belive Adqam that came to this world from Sri Lanka. Finaly, if you do not like my country, get out..

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    Muhammed Fazl

    Tear the masks before tearing down the flag.

    If you are a man, first free your women. As a Muslim you enslave, degrade and exploit women. Tear the Hijab, Niqab and Burqa with which you are keeping your mothers, sisters, wives and daughters as slaves and humiliating them. It is inhuman. It is a violation of their human rights. Tear down those masks and free them from their medieval lives. Let them join the rest of humanity in the 21st Century.

    Your telling us to tear down the flag is like a serial killer admonishing a kid for stealing a cookie.

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      Spot on!

      Thanks!

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    Alen;

    I have to reply several posts of yours, so I will do it in a single comment, that is why I shifted here. We can continue the discussion from here as, I reply all of your last posts I have not replied.

    “So, now are agreeing that Buddhism is deep philosophy. Thanks and no point on discussion with you.”

    I think you have no any sense of logic.

    Does my saying “Buddhism is a philosophy, religion and a way of life” excludes Buddhism being a philosophy? What fallacies are you creating my friend. Fallacies are intrinsic to those whose thinking is based on faith.

    “Did buddha tell you there is no GOD?”

    Yes, Buddha has rejected the idea of creator god. If you want read Agganna Sutta and Brahmajala Sutta.

    “Which holy book says world is only 6000 Years?”

    It it is a logical inference derived from the Holy Bible. You reverse count the years from the birth of Jesus Christ until the “creation”, then that duration plus the duration up to the present time from Jesus’ birth would be about 6000 years or so. Count on the events of the Old Testament and add 2014. You Muslims believe Moses and Jesus as holy messengers, aren’t you?

    So according to your religious belief the universe was created about 6000 years ago. Isn’t it a myth, my dear friend?

    “Not only Muslims, Christians, Jews, Hindus etc believe in GOD. And there are even some Buddhists Believe in GOD…….”

    Yes all those except Buddhists believe in (CREATOR)GOD, but not Buddhists. In Buddhism GODS means DEITIES and they are just another kind of beings who are mortal. So Buddhists do not believe in what you are believing, though some people use the same term to denote two different things. GODS in Buddhism are poles apart from the GOD believed in the rest of those religions.

    “You tell me why hardly there is no Tamil Buddhists in Sri Lanka???????”

    I have no idea, if you have you may express your opinion, I will see whether it is credible.

    “You are so much disturbed yourself my friend…………… Just spent your time on learning the Load Buddhas Philosophy or Religion what ever you call it.”

    I am in the process.

    But my advice to you is do not try to understand Buddhism, as you will not succeed, until you give up Islam, fundamentally because a sensible person cannot believe/hold two contradicting ideologies at the same time.It is either Islam or Buddhism.

    I hold just one ideology. But you claimed to hold two contradicting ideologies.

    I put to you either you are an insensible person or a liar. Do you agree with my logical conclusion, my dear Alen?

    Thanks!

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      “You tell me why hardly there is no Tamil Buddhists in Sri Lanka???????

      Dear Yapa,

      “Saivaism” is actually the perfected Mahayaana Buddhism.

      God “Siva” is an imaginary creation based on Buddha and His Preaching!

      It could be confirmed through Tamil literature and statues of God Siva.

      God Siva carries by his hands a hand-drum, Tri-suula and burning fire. On his forehead. we find a Triple -stripe.

      Unfortunately, like the Theravada Buddhists, Indians and Sri Lankan Tamils also failed to conduct a scientific study on Symbolization and Symbolization of Buddha and Buddhism.

      Thus. they could not understand what the hand-drum, Tri-suula, burning fire and Triple-stripe associated with God Siva severally and jointly symbolize.

      To find out these correctly. one need not get a Ph. D in archeology or Hindu Philosophy or Iconography!

      Simple logic is enough! G. C. E (O/L) knowledge in maths is enough!

      A hand -drum, like a bell, conch, flute, Veena etc. makes sound that could be heard by everyone in the surrounding without any discrimination.

      Therefore all these could symbolize a public announcement or Preaching something to all!

      Therefore, a hand-drum or bell or flute etc. cannot be placed alone.

      There should be another symbol in combination with these that symbolizes what is being preached to all.

      Here only the Tru-suula comes!

      In Tru-suula, the outer limbs curve outside and point opposite directions. The middle limb is straight.

      Therefore the Tri-suula could symbolize “the Middle Path.”

      Therefore the Trisuula and hand drum in combination could symbolize Preaching “the Middle Path” to all!

      “The Middle Path” is the fundamental philosophy of Buddhism, the Buddhist Dhamma!

      In addition to these, God Siva carries a burning fire in his palm.

      This could symbolize light or Enlightenment!

      Therefore the combination of hand drum, Tri-suula and burning fire could symbolize Preaching the Middle Path to all that produces Enlightenment!

      On the forehead of God Siva we find Triple-stripe mark.

      The Triple – stripe also could symbolize the Middle Path.

      God Siva having Triple -stripe on his forehead associates God Siva with the Middle Path!

      Therefore, God Siva is a person who himself adhered to the Middle Path and Preaches the Middle Path to all that produces Enlightenment!

      Therefore God Siva is an imaginary creation based on Buddha and His Preaching!

      Line wise, the combination of a conch, a circular disc rotated by forefinger and “U” mark placed symmetrically above the nose makes God Vishnu an imaginary creation based on Buddha and His Preaching.

      A circular disc rotated by forefinger symbolizes the Middle Path.

      God Muruga carries a spade and bell.On his forehead we find a Triple – stripe. A Spade symbolizes the Middle Path.

      Therefore God Muruga is also an imaginary creation based on Buddha and Buddhism!

      Placing God Muruga in the middle of Valli and Theivaanai also associates Muruga with the Middle Path!

      God Krishna carries a flute and a peacock feather. Peacock feather with an eye at the end also, like a spade, symbolizes the Middle Path. A vertical straight line mark placed symmetrically on the forehead of Krishna also symbolizes the Middle Path.

      Therefore, all these Gods were the imaginary creations based on Buddha and His Preaching.

      Because of this only, we find the statues and shrines of these Gods in the Mahayana Buddhist Temples of Lanka!

      Theravada Buddhism rejects symbolization and Symbolization of Buddha and Buddhism.

      The IGNORANT Sinhalse Theravada Buddhists and Tamil “Saivaites” are being engaged in religious fights!

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    Hello! Alen, the well read man;

    Where have you been?

    Frightening the little mice under the God’s chair?

    Thanks!

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    Action of BBS is justified by these foolish writers and their ignorant solicitors, advocates, accomplices and followers.

    Thank God for their foolish actions. May the God protect these ignorant pack of fools! I don’t think several thousands of the kind of the God can guide these fools in the correct path.

    Thanks!

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    An Islamo-fundamentalist attempt to masquerade Anti-Sinhala Buddhist racism as a cry for pluralism has been exposed and kicked in the ass that they now appear to have run out of steam. In future you guys should put your energy to better use by exposing and redressing the war crimes committed by the LTTE against the Muslims of north and east rather than hate mongering against Sri Lanka and its people.

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    Mr. Mohamed Fazl,

    Sigh… You are a real piece of work. A frustrated flamer who’s bark in the blogosphere is far harsher than your actual bite.

    I hate divisive politics and truly believe that any person holding Sri Lankan is well and truly pure Sri Lankan even if they have one parent of foreign heredity, are Sinhala, Muslims whatever.

    Before you Fazl, there have been far better educated, more eloquent individuals who have argued the need for altering the flag and national anthem and have actually ACTED on their words. Besides your criminal past (I know who you are mate) your stupidly worded, Daily Mail-style scare tactic writing help absolutely no one for or against any sort of change to the flag or anything else.

    We are all human beings who developed from ape like species in Africa (unless you believe some higher power magically created man out of a rib and then the silly girlfriend ate an apple and pandemonium erupted), and like I said above I don’t care if you are half Sri Lankan and half French and born yesterday or whether your ancestors came here 600 years ago or whatever we are all 100% Sri Lankan if you hold its citizenship.

    However I’d like to point out the lion flag has been around far before Moors stepped foot in the country in the 16th century. In fact the flag was around over a 1000 years before then, so , even if it is meant to show the dominance of one race there is still large historical and cultural significance to it.

    Lastly, Sri lankans, thanks to our cricketers and lion beer, all inherently believe there is a ‘lion’ in all of us! Be it my Muslim brothers or Burgher brothers as Sri lankans we have adopted the lion on the flag as a representative of us and a good majority are more than proud of it.

    The pressing issue in mu opinion is the fact that the national anthem is currently officiated in Sinhalese only. This is a serious, pressing issue which requires it to adopt Tamil and become bilingual immediately.

    Mohamed Fazl, I have said this time and again, you are better off not writing your garbage and better still if you did not voice your opinion at all. You are not a good Muslim, Not a good Sri Lankan and certainly not a good human (I know your past). Do us all a favour and see yourself off.

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    ” Owa denu parahatta Thama samuthyehi pihita sita ” Buddha

    I recommend you first put a small advertisement that you change your name for something like ” ETHICAL MARTINI 38 ” or whatever suit you and then go to your ” Grmasewaka karyalaya and get a new birth / name change document. Soon as you have the new name you may come and post this same question again so i can give you the right answer plus the design.

    Culture – the quality in a person or society that arises from a concern for what is regarded as excellent in arts, letters, manners, scholarly pursuits, etc.

    Plz currently we are trying to tighten some bolt’s of this screwed nation. And we strongly recommend you ppl not to feed the trolls.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/culture

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