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The Much Talked Of ‘Indo’ – Lanka Relations

By Malinda Seneviratne

Malinda Seneviratne

Malinda Seneviratne

A lot is often made of alleged historical ties between India and Sri Lanka. Too much and too often, perhaps. ‘Historical Ties’ is an oft used sweetener to help one party force unpalatables down the throats of another party, typically by the stronger on the weaker. It is not for nothing that democracy has been described as the opportunity for the downtrodden to choose the sauce with which they are to be eaten by the oppressor in a capitalist society. ‘Historical Ties’ are like that too.

But let’s not get ahead of things here. First and foremost there is the issue of ‘India’. What’s India? Where is it? When was this ‘India’ formed into some kind of coherent political entity that covers more or less the geographical space it is associated with today? These are questions that need to be asked and answered before we talk about ties between ‘India’ and ‘Sri Lanka’. Indeed, such questions could (and should) be asked about ‘Sri Lanka’ as well.

India: was not always this big and was not always called 'India'

India: was not always this big and was not always called ‘India’

Sri Lanka, being a small island, has the proverbial inside track (compared to ‘India’) in terms of ‘long history’ associated with the territory associated with the present-day name. While there can be disputes about what ‘state’ is and whether entities from a long time ago were ‘states’ like the ones we have today, it is clear that political authorities had jurisdiction over the entire island for considerable periods of time.

Writers, cartographers and travelers had single names for the island. Descriptions speak of a single political entity. A less-known or perhaps known-but-ignored example is the reference etched in inscriptions at Hindu temples built by Raja Raja Chola I with wealth plundered from conquered territories. The name is ‘Ila-Mandalam’, ‘Ila’ being a corruption of ‘Hela’ or its four-part elaboration ‘Sihala’ (from ‘Siv-Hela’, made up of Yaksha, Naga, Deva and Raksha, each associated with a vocational sphere), later to be further corrupted by European invaders into ‘Ceylon’ (not ‘Sri Lanka’ which one could argue is an aberration that should be done away with and replaced with the more logical ‘Sinhale’). Importantly, by the way, the inscription offers the following elaboration: ‘the land of the warlike Singalas’. This, in the 10th Century AD. Of course, there’s ample evidence of the island being a single political entity long before this.

What was India ‘back then’? The largest empire established on the land that covers today’s India was that of the Mauryas. It lasted less than 150 years (332-185 BCE) and did not cover all of ‘India’. The ‘All of India’ did not get ‘covered’ until the British arrived.

So what do we make of the so-called Indo-Sri Lanka ties of the historical kind? We could talk about the wars, in particular the many invasions of the island by South Indian armies, none of which identified with the ‘India’ of today in terms of areas controlled in the sub-continent. Movement of people and trade, obviously, didn’t begin just the other day, but it’s stretching things too far to use such ‘ties’ as examples of ‘friendship between states’ and downright silly to use the name ‘India’ in describing such transactions.

In recent times, we had the infamous Indo-Lanka Accord which was an act of aggression which followed the funding, training and arming of terrorists by India to wage war on the Sri Lankan state. Such actions indicate ‘relations’ but certainly not friendly, although one could interject the term ‘historical’ in terms of the rank interference it amounted to and the violence it engendered. One could add India’s role in ‘cornering’ Sri Lanka in Geneva, which again came with the tag ‘in the best interest of Sri Lanka’, as understood and defined not by Sri Lankans but forces most certainly arrayed against Sri Lankans.

Between these there was of course the Emperor Asoka and the much-talked-of ‘bringing of Buddhism to “Sri Lanka” from “India”.’ No aggression there. No forcing stuff down people’s throats. It was a gesture, yes, but not one done in the name of friendship between two countries. Arahat Mahinda has often been mis-labeled as an emissary of Emperor Asoka. He was nothing more, nothing less, than a shraavaka (student) of the Dhamma taught by the Thiloguru, the Buddha Siddhartha Gauthama. The “Jambudveepa” he came from is conceptually, culturally and cartographically different from ‘India’. The history of “Jambudveepa” is not written anywhere in India and indeed the British officials had to draw heavily from the Sinhala chronicles to make sense of the ruins they came across in the territory they named ‘India’. In fact the world would not have known of Emperor Asoka if not for the Mahavansa and the Chinese records.

But let’s get back to “India”. Where did the word come from and what territory did it refer to? The general consensus is that the name is drawn from the Indus River whose original (Sanskrit) name was Sindhu which had become “Hindus” to Persians who conquered that relatively small piece of land in the 5th Century BCE. It was thus the Persians who dropped the ‘s’ and the Greeks who dropped the ‘h’ to yield an ‘India’. That name has been drawn over the entire landmass of the subcontinent subsequently to give us the ‘India’ of these so-called ‘friendly Indo-Lanka relations’ whose ‘historical’ nature as the above indicates remains un-established. If one were to condense the past 25 centuries into a one minute roll-out of changing land-area(s) associated with the name ‘India’ we won’t see a still picture that corresponds to the current map of the country by that name. We would see lines that contain relatively tiny territories which on rare occasions burgeoned out and yet never give the present-day boundaries.

India exists. As of now. Sri Lanka does too. There are bi-lateral agreements and other agreements forged in multi-lateral forums. There are ‘ties’ whose friendliness is up for debate. Not all of it is bad of course, but there’s enough bad-blood in recent times to raise eyebrows at friendship-claims. There is trade. There is friendship. Thousands of Sri Lankans obtain visas from the Indian High Commission every year, a significant portion of who are pilgrims. Such pilgrims obtain their visas from the INDIAN High Commission, but they visit not India but ‘Dambadiva’ (Jambudveepa). It would be good to do a survey at this point of general perceptions of India in terms of a) existing and possible trade, and b) India’s political, military and diplomatic actions with respect to Sri Lanka, especially the perceptions of such visitors (pilgrims). It might very well turn out that for the majority of them the India that gives them visas is very different from the Dambadiva they visit.

Yes, a lot is often made of alleged historical ties between India and Sri Lanka. Too much and too often. So much that it is beginning to sound ridiculous.

*Malinda Seneviratne is a freelance writer. Blog: malindawords.blogspot.com. Twitter: malindasene. Email: malindasenevi@gmail.com.

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    The writer using his fine writing makes his usual efforts to paint the infravour of lanken radicalitsts. WHo are they – if not Rajapakshes led men that work against any kind of pacts being signed between those grand nations to this date. Rabel rousing at its finer manner- is being practised by this MR laptop tamed but to be called as an another Haward edcuated lanken – but sitting with wrong parties not thinking twices about the future of the island nation.

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      “Yes, a lot is often made of alleged historical ties between India and Sri Lanka. Too much and too often. So much that it is beginning to sound ridiculous.”

      Yes and No but how far we can see in reality is what matters.

      English East India company take over the whole of India – 1818 (kandyan convention same year 1818)

      Brits had lost the war and east India company was in taters with the air raids and ground assaults As the sole outright winner of the war and Marshall plan reconstruction banker: President Harry Truman the partition man of India Pakistan East West and Lanka and on that day all Muslim and Buddhist hell broke lose. 1947.

      Present day India has 69 million graduates and 6 times as many illiterates Lanka does not have even a million half baked grads.- marapalanaya.

      Presently India has US $$ 1/2 trillion reserves as much as China 3.1T (450 m unemployed)

      Lanka Government Debt of about 72% of GDP remains among the highest in emerging markets.(GDP $82.1 billion (2015 est)

      Lindooooooothe stupid.

      Lankawe Hingannage Thuwale

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        Pssst: Indian Muslim’s
        (to be largest muslim country by 2050- 350 million)

        Muslims, Like/respect Ranils attitude towards life- stay whole day like a fool (commission, society) leave the rest to the Gods.(Loot) Very much Taoish.

        What is against Tao will soon perish.
        When Tao prevails forces don’t go to battle but pull dung carts.

        Disenfranchising the Voter Or Wipe 60 km.sq. off the Map- iraq included.

        A better tomorrow world – tinkering for 70 years is no way of life- out with the rubbish in with new settlers.

        Islam Lanka/Lanka Buddhism are violent religions.
        “There’s something definitely going on.”

        There goes the English saying “Let the bubbles settle before you take the cup of tea.”

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    What a bullshit writer is Malinda Senivaratne. He is trying to prove whole of this island was Sinhala and India was not India. So he is saying Sinhalese are not Buddhists. They were Hindus. Raja Raja Chola couldn’t pronounce Sinhale so he only understood la and built temples within a day.

    I think he need to be taken to Angoda.

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      Ajith

      “I think he need to be taken to Angoda. “

      Are you planning to cause more suffering to the inmates?

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    What a load of crap. For someone who has lived abroad, Malinda sure seems ignorant about Sri Lanka’s lack of importance in global matters. Looks like he also had some sort of bad experience with an Indian, perhaps a girlfriend/boyfriend dumped him in his youth. Most people in the west, and certainly in the Americas, have barely (if ever) even heard of Sri Lanka. It is not and never can be self sufficient, nor can its microscopic market of 20 million mostly lazy folks ever succeed so long as they suck up to 8-paas politicians.

    India on the other hand has a market of a billion, is the world’s largest example of a functioning democracy, and for the most part kept out of geopolitical interference.

    Just one question for Malinda: which country would you rather ally yourself with? A democracy of a billion people where one can criticize the government or protest on the street, where English is widely spoken and still has the trust of the west (because they are not so in to intellectual property violation and empire building as China is)? Or a country of one billion zombies living in a communist dictatorship (China) that does not care about anything but itself? They have not developed or innovated anything of value in the last 500 years, only copy from the west without whose money they would be nothing.

    China does not need the Hambantota sea port. Thats just a way of putting its excess labour to work. If they need a port they can easily reclaim land just as they did in the south china sea. The day they take over little insignificant isles like Sri Lanka is the day you’ll go crying behind India.

    Better also read up on your Indian history, not the selective version you present here. Similarly some genetic studies of the blood types of Sri Lankans. It would reveal you are mostly Indian. So don’t look up and spit.

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      Give the devil his due, this Harvard (not quite) grad is a whiz with words. But he very carefully says ” it is clear that political authorities had jurisdiction over the entire island for considerable periods of time.” Not a SINGLE political authority , you see.
      Also unlike Dayan J. the other MR speechwriter, we don’t have to listen every time how he single-handedly saved the nation from the UN. He spares us the hosannas to his great father too.
      In 1977 the SL Rupee was worth 2 Indian Rupees. Now it is the other way around . Do we have to wait until it hits 20 for people like Malinda to see the light?

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        old codger

        Is there a reason for you to soft pedal this junkie who has an obsessive dependency on twisting facts, truth and lacks intellectual honesty?

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          N.V,
          I believe a little bit of butter is good for turning minds.

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        old codger

        Though not directly related to the typing of MS, the article below could be of use to you:

        What Do the Terms ‘Eelam’ and ‘Ilankai’ Mean?

        by Professor Karthigesu Sivathamby, Sunday Observer, April 2, 2006

        In geography and history, the Tamil word used is ‘illankai.’ It was this wide usage of the term illankai and the understanding of its common origin that led to the approval of the term illankai in all the official documents. In fact, it could be argued that it was this welcome degree of understanding that enables the Tamils to identify themselves with this island as their country. The constitution of the day accepted the usage of this term.

        However, in recent times there is a demand to use the term Sri Lanka only and leaving out the term illankai.

        At least in the English media, ever since the late Mervyn de Silva with his characteristic journalistic flourish called the Tiger-led combat struggle against the state as the’Eelam war,’ the term eelam has gained an ominous significance to the Sinhala reader.

        In the minds of the Sinhala people, this word denotes separatism and is associated with L.T.T.E. attacks. The role of the mainstream Sinhala media in creating suspicion in the minds of the Sinhala people has been substantial.

        The absence of an institution which would help enable the fostering of understanding between the communities has only worsened the situation, and it’s also true that there had been no effort on the part of the Sri Lankan Tamils to communicate to the Sinhalese the real meaning of the terms they use.

        It is true that in the separatist demand made by all the militant organizations, the term Eelam is there, but it is a compound term with the qualifying word Tamil. Thus, the term is Tamil Eelam. In fact, TELO stands for Thamil Eelam Liberation Organization and the short in form L.T.T.E. stands for Liberation Tigers of Thamil Eelam.

        The operative part is Thamil Eelam and it means the Tamil part of Eelam. The term Eelam is a synonym for Sri Lanka and has been in use in Tamil literature right from the Cankam Period dating as far back as 200 B.C. to circa 250 A.D. Pattinapalai, a long poem of the Cankam period on Karikala the Chola king, refers to the various imports piled up at the Pukar harbour.

        Two of the commodities identified are ‘Eelathu Unavu’, ‘Kalakathu Akkaam.’ The first one means food from Sri Lanka, and the latter refers to products from Kaalakam (kedah). We do not know what the foodstuffs that were sent from Sri Lanka to the southeastern harbour city of Tamil Nadu.

        The Tamil- Brahmi inscriptions refer to an ‘Eelathu Kutumbikan,’ meaning a householder from Eelam. Kutumbikan is the Tamil word for ‘gihi’ and therefore refers to a Buddhist. Incidentally, this reference indicates that there has been a free flow of Buddhists from Sri Lanka into Tamil Nadu and vice-versa.

        Later day Tamil inscriptions, especially one from the Chola period, refers to ‘Sinhalar Eella Mandilams,’ meaning the Eela regional unit of the Sinhalese. It is quite clear that the Sinhalese themselves had been associated with Eelam. It is a known fact Eelam constituted an administrative unit during the Chola period 1017 to 1070 A.D.

        The term Eelam has cultural connotations and the first poet from Sri Lanka participating in the Cankam poetic gatherings was a poet call Eellathu Putan Thevan.

        To this day Sri Lankan Tamil literature is referred to as Eelathu Ilakkiyam. The contribution of the Muslims and Up-Country Tamils falls within the Tamil literature of Eelam. The Muslims are equally proud of the term as the Tamils are, especially when the reference is made to Sri Lankan Tamil Literature.

        It may come as a big shock to many to know of the etymology of the term Eelam. It is the opinion of learned Tamil scholars like the late Professor Kanapathipillai, that the term Eelam must have been derived from ‘Hela’. Thus in real terms eelam is an integral part of the helaurumaya (The hela heritage).

        When, after the 1972 constitution, the Federal Party was pushed toward the formation of the Tamil United Front and towards the declaration of a separate Tamil country, the term Tamil Eelam was not very much in vogue.

        It was the Tamil militants who popularized the term Thamil Eelam. Unfortunately, only the word Eelam is retained of this compound form, and this very word itself is now taken to mean a separate Tamil country. Given the long presence of the Tamils in this country and their devotion to this island as their motherland, has invariably led to the use of the term Eelam to denote the entire island.

        The Tamil word for Sri Lanka is ILANKAI. It is the Tamilicised form of the word Lanka. In Tamil language there has been no tradition for “LA” to be the initial sound in a word. Thus, the vowel sound E comes first and the word is pronounced as Illankai.

        This term it is quite old. Cilapathikaram, the Tamil epic that deals with the history of the Kannaki, the Pattini venerated in the Sinhala Buddhist tradition, narrates how Gajabahu brought the Pattini cult to Sri Lanka.

        The famous line in Cilapathikaram runs as follows ‘Kadal chool illankai kayavahu venthan’ and the word illankai is used here to refer to Sri Lanka. Cilapathikaram today is generally taken as a work belonging to the 5th century A.D. Thus the term illankai, too, has been invoked to refer to the island.

        In geography and history, the Tamil word used is ‘illankai.’ It was this wide usage of the term illankai and understanding of its common origin that led to the approval of the term illankai in all the official documents. In fact, it could be argued that it was this welcome degree of understanding that enables the Tamils to identify themselves with this island as their country. The constitution of the day accepted the usage of this term.

        However, in recent times there is a demand to use the term Sri Lanka only and leaving out the term illankai. The insistence of this usage has led to an interesting situation in which the Tamils, when they wish to refer to the Sinhala government, call it the Sri Lankan state and the security forces two are refered to as Sri Lankan state forces. The implication is quite clear that these institutions have nothing to do with the Tamils.

        If we have to develop a sense of understanding between the communities, it is important that the cultures of the other group are recognized and respected.

        The deprivation of the use of the term Eelam/Illankai for Sri Lanka would only foster a sense of alienation from this island and anyone who wants a peaceful settlement would understand the Sri Lankan Tamil psyche. It is wrong to impute meanings, which do not exist.

        http://sangam.org/taraki/articles/2006/05-03_Eelam_Ilankai.php?uid=1707

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            sarasavi

            “[Edited out]”

            Thank you for keeping it brief.

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                Sarasavi,
                There are words of more than 4 letters in English, you know. Do cool down and try again

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                  old codger

                  It appears that Malinda has been living in a parallel universe, since alien abducted him many years ago and altered his genetic building blocks.

                  He types:

                  “Writers, cartographers and travelers had single names for the island. Descriptions speak of a single political entity”

                  This island had never been a single entity until the Brits united the entire island in their own interest.

                  Please ask Malinda to refer to two excellent papers by renowned and well respected historians and the details are as follows:

                  Prelude to the state: An Early Phase in the Evolution of Political Institutions in Ancient Sri Lanka

                  By Prof R A L H Gunawardana

                  Multiple Centres of Authority in Medieval Sri Lanka

                  By Prof S Pathmanathan

                  Both are published in

                  Reflections on a Heritage Historical Scholarship on Premodern Sri Lanka

                  Central Cultural Fund

                  Ministry of Cultural and Religious Affairs

                  My Elders have hundreds of well researched papers to prove Malinda is talking bull. However as I have other important tasks at my hand I find no time nor inclination to entertain this alien from planet of the Morons.

                  And he types:

                  “Yes, a lot is often made of alleged historical ties between India and Sri Lanka. Too much and too often. So much that it is beginning to sound ridiculous.”

                  What he can’t or won’t accept are the historical facts namely:

                  The languages
                  The Religions including Pattini cult
                  Technologies
                  Art
                  Culture
                  The mercenaries
                  Food
                  Trade
                  Genetics/DNA
                  Fashion
                  Learning
                  Maths
                  Astronomy
                  Astrology
                  Customs
                  Kings
                  Queens
                  Asylum seeking hoodlums (including Vijaya)
                  Artisans
                  ….
                  Fashion

                  National anthem
                  Natum
                  Close relation with Tagore’s Santiniketan which trained many artists and renowned dramatists, including Sarathchandra.

                  Sinhala film industry was established by South Indians.

                  Hindi and Tamil movies are not made in this island but imported from India for which there is a huge market in this island.
                  …..

                  Just after tsunami struck this island, India sent 5/6 ships with relief materials. One ship was used to survey the sea lanes around this island.

                  On the other hand VP won the war for MR with a lot of help from Hindians (including more than 1.5 billion dollar loan/grant.)

                  This island’s freedom struggle(?) was inspired by Indian independent movement and the leaders of both countries have had a close relationship.

                  What is he/she/it talking about?

                  Is there a way to exile these men from planet of Morons back to where normally reside?

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                    “” I find no time nor inclination to entertain this alien from planet of the Morons.””

                    hopefully he may be feeling that `his article has no flower`, and `his own face has become hateful to look at`

                    As an intelligent mandarin speaking new delhite put it succinctly.

                    As Indian foreign secretary S. Jaishankar remarked last year when he was serving as Delhi’s ambassador in Washington:

                    “[The] India-U.S. relationship has changed dramatically. When one thinks about the transformation of our ties, it is natural to attribute it to some good diplomacy on both sides…but to me, the basis for transformation of this relationship is the Indian-American community.”

                    Sunday sil went to buddha gaya, amaravathi, as zombies…imagine that.

                    they came back to kill non followers of faith.
                    while dalit at india do not kill.

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                    N.V,
                    Well, from Malinda’s viewpoint, India in its present form did not exist 200 years ago. Quite true. Therefore none of the items you mention came from India. They came from Thanjavur, Travancore, Calicut, Hyderabad, and a hundred other princedoms. Fair enough, by his logic. But Malinda should start praying that India doesn’t break up again. Because then we will be in really deep shit. Who is going to stop JJ from TN taking up residence in Temple Trees?
                    Of course Malinda himself probably doesn’t exist because I am sure he was born in a place called Ceylon, which doesn’t exist any more.
                    However, as I said before , we must give him credit because, unlike DJ, he doesn’t change his tune every few years.

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                      “”They came from Thanjavur, Travancore, Calicut, Hyderabad, and a hundred other princedoms. Fair enough, by his logic.””

                      American Harry Truman created present day India taking away 1 million sq kilometers and the island of ceylon governed from madras presidency.
                      India to the British Army lads kids born Kabul, Chennai, Simla,Darjeeling, still in their 60’s – it stretched up to China in the east and iran border in the west.

                      The Maratha army (sanskrit+hindu though they were now half muslim too because of Nawab ka Haveli, ) were the final winners over the islamist, portuguese, dutch and British until Anglo/Martha war of 1818. this is in the British Archives at Somerset house Hampstead Heath. (Uk does not keep all treaties in one place but spread across the island)

                      Amul butter does not work.

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          This is interesting:
          “”It may come as a big shock to many to know of the etymology of the term Eelam. It is the opinion of learned Tamil scholars like the late Professor Kanapathipillai, that the term Eelam must have been derived from ‘Hela’. Thus in real terms eelam is an integral part of the helaurumaya (The hela heritage).””

          sinhala speaking demalas and demala speaking demalas.akka valle pol.

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    Another eye opener.. Good on you Milinda..

    When India breaks up, we will be under Naduans …Right..

    I mean Batalanada’s ETCA is going to tie up everything we have in our Sinhale with the Hindians.

    Batalanada said the other day that Minhindu, the Emmissary is a kallathonie, in order to justify his rush to hoist his ETCA on us.

    Mihindu according to Milinda here, came from Jambudeepa..

    Wonder where Batalanad got that Kallathonie bit.

    Norh Indians who are our ancestral stock, do not have much dealings with us even now.

    Our Taxi Drivers at the BIA whom I occasionally meet say North Indians are good people, who tip well as well as always buy meals for them.

    They will be the first to be pissed off if Naduans take over everything.

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      Go and lick the balls of Malinda will not help the nation.

      What we want is you guys to grasp it let alone today after 30 years war.

      If we would not be close ot India nothign will work for progress of the country s future.

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      Go and licking the balls of Malinda will not help the nation.

      What we want is you guys to grasp it let alone today after 30 years war.

      If we would not be close ot India nothign will work for progress of the country s future.

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    “it is clear that political authorities had jurisdiction over the entire island for considerable periods of time.”
    When was this? Was it when the lion was mating with the princess?
    It is a clown like this that thinks this country belongs only to the sinhalese. Well malinda, other than writing bullshit what have you done for your country.
    India would not have bothered with SL if 83 didnt occur.
    And by the way barebodied wearing an amude does not consist of being warlike. To the western world it means “savage”.

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    India was already arming separatists before 1983 ethnic cleansing riots. It made it worse, but they were already in the game to destabilize Sri Lanka because of SL’s obvious veering towards anti Indian hostility and the USA. India raised a lot of concerns about the VOA station in Marawila and JRJ was stupid to play games. End result? SL getting screwed over. Geopolitics mattered. Now did SL dig their own grave too? Yes they did. If you ask any Naga, or Mizo if they are Indian they will resentfully shake their heads. Ask a Manipuri too. Ask Sikkim how India annexed it by force and by a coup. Ask Meghalayan what he or she thinks of Indian troops there. Ask Nagas in particular.

    Now you will get threats and a barrage of any rebuttals from pathetic boorucrats in the Indian High Commission. They threatened Financial Times (FT) once for carrying an article about Modi San and his Saffron brigade. Hinduvta is on the rise. Ask Modi San about the riots in Gujarat when he was CM

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      2″Hinduvta is on the rise.”” and the little piglets are increasing by the minute

      But India also is expected have 311 million Muslims in 2050 (11% of the global total), the largest country projection.(foreign origins and trust element)

      The land of the origin of hindu.

      In 2010, 94% of the world’s Hindus lived in India, and this is expected to remain true in 2050, when 1.3 billion Hindus are projected to live in the country.

      “Hinduvta is on the rise.”
      on the wealthy side after it loss landmass india 1818 to english east india company.

      landmass- from afghanistan in the west to far away nepal in the north east, to bangala desh and tamil nadu in the south east and andaman nicobar, ceylon.

      Should they not put their house in order culturally?? Sanskrit was the language and religion hindu- that was the defence forces of Sivaji.
      The Brits and Americans have let the Islam run riot in the sub continent- belly dancers seduce.

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    Kallathoni referred to Illegal immigrants from lower caste Tamil Nadu who fled India to a better place to work. The biggest law and order problems for Ceylon those days was this and smugglers from the VVT LTTE boys. They were great seafarers and had great speed boats even in the 1960s and 1970s. They knew every alcove on the coasts of TN and SL and Kerala. They would smuggle in Sarees and gold and drugs like Keral Ganja and take spices and whiskey and cigarettes from Ceylon. So that is why LTTE was superior to SL Navy for the longest time. When you have a flat bottomed boat with 4 Evinrudes you could outrun any Navy Vessel. This only changed after 2005 when SLN started have SBS training and created the Arrow boats and wiped out the VVT smuggle turned Eelamists for good.

    So if Ceylon was so bad, why was it so easy to get Indian tamils as servants and street sweepers and Thorombal sellers and bothal paper kaarayas? So now again we have 25,000 plus Indian Tamil illegals from Saravati to Amparai. Ceylon is great for them because they are not oppressed by their culture unlike in India.

    So be careful; you will be threatened now.

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    Malinda is correct. We don’t have good relations with India. India is hostile to Sinhale, because they are not hostile to Tamils, and is exploiting Sri lanka every possible. that is typical Hindians. They even mistreat and explopit their own. Even in the past, we did not have good relations with Hindusthan. IT was just bullying.

    what Buddhists respect is Jambudweepa and when they visit there they go Dambadiva which they consider as sacred.

    But, they go through a filthy and hostile place called Chennai which they say, people poo in the Railway Station premises and in open. There are so many people who are behave like animals.

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    Anyway, under the present conditions Sri lanla does not need ETCA or what ever it is the trade agreement because, at present, Sri lanka has only a hugh negative trade balance with India. Sri lanka is an importing country and is not an exporting country. Sri lanka needs a free trade agreement only the lack of it affects the exports.

    ETCA will screw up Sri lanka further affecting Sri lankan jobs in the skilled trade sector. there are thousands of Indian Science, engineering and other graduates doing menial jobs in the west. Sri lanka has Indian doctors working in Sri lankan hospitals, labourers who come on visitor visa.

    So, there is no need of trade agreement.

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      Jimmy,
      ” Sri lanka is an importing country and is not an exporting country”
      How many Sri Lankan women are cleaning Arab toilets? Are they not being exported?

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        OLd Codger

        tobacco Farmer Wiggie is estalishing eelam

        while 84,000 widows are moving to Arab countries by back door, probably to get bang.

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    Every now and then Young Seneviratne whips up a rant against those pesky bees in his bonnet. Here he crafts a rambling whine against all odds, trying to convince us that India is no big shakes vis-a-vis proud little Sri Lanka. Nice try but NO CIGAR.

    Sri Lanka is right to stand tall and proud but it must learn to keep its feet on the ground, and NOT get above its station.

    Sri Lanka would do well to foster an altogether better understanding with our big brother in the North. After all, whatever Malinda and his ilk say, or write, blood is thicket than water.

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      Spring Koha

      Come on, did you really read his rant?

      I don’t believe you.

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        O Native Vedda

        You shouldn’t be surprised at the things I would read and the speed I could read at. All this was cultivated as a snotty youth in the newspaper House by the Lake (the hazards of having a reporter father).

        It is not the reading, the real challenge is whether to accept what is written.

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          Spring Koha

          Thanks

          Sometimes I wonder why good people even bother to respond to worst kind of rant (not that I want you to stop commenting on my comment).

          It is not just the lunatics on the fringe, mostly the well established media also print rant in their editorials.

          Editors should get second opinion from others about their opinion and leader comment (editorial) before they publish them on their respective media.

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            sensational reporting is the target in a rapidly moving congested society

            how many clicked on `i love you` virus?

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          “”(the hazards of having a reporter father). It is not the reading, the real challenge is whether to accept what is written. “”

          The media is the real culprit. Trump supporters eyeing them now.

          Is it why you have a venomous buddhist muslim casserole on the prowl and the world is calling it racial??

          Too few except for celebrities challenge the organised crime syndicate the media. media is cheap but big power manipulators.

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    Hindians should have given those Ambulances to Orissa, instead of giving them to Elite , Anglicans and the Vellalas in Colombo..

    That Orissa man carrying his dead wife’s body on his shoulder made my eyes watery.

    And I consider myself as a hard bastard normally.

    Orissa hospital wouldn’t give him a vehicle to take her body to the village.

    And Batalanada Ranil and Bodhi Sira promise that the Hindians will make our rural poor inhabitants, rich ,

    They must be f******* joking…

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    Malinda Seneviratne asks “India? Where is it? When was this ‘India’ formed into some kind of coherent political entity that covers more or less the geographical space it is associated with today?”

    Some may rate this question sagacious, some may consider it plain silly.

    One may well ask “China? Where is it? When was this ‘China’ formed………..”

    Does Mona Lisa exist Malinda? Or was it just blobs of paints in 1502 and a stupid man called Leonardo da Vinci put the paints together between 1503 and 1506 and created the ugly face – which gives the impression of smile?

    India and Pakistan were created from the South Asian sub-continent. Active practice of racism led to the breakup of Pakistan into Pakistan and Bangladesh. India is as real as Canada, Britain, USA or Australia. The risk of Canada or Britain breaking up is greater than India breaking up.

    The stability of India is attributed to the federal form of governance – food for thought to the Lanka predicament.

    By the way in 1505 when Portuguese soldier and explorer landed in the island Serendipity (aka Taprobane, Ceylon now Sri Lanka), he found a Tamil kingdom and two Sinhalese kingdoms. Coloniser Britain merged the kingdoms into Ceylon which was renamed Sri Lanka. Malinda, Sri Lanka is real.

    The infamous Lankan civil war was won with India’s help.

    The subliminal message in the Malinda article seems to be that Buddhism did not originate from what is now India. Malinda must worry about how Buddhism is practiced now, rather than where it came from.

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    Malinga you seemed to have completely forgotten about the Prince Vijaya connection which is primary with historical ties with India. I quote below an extract from Wikepedia the Internet Alamanac relating to it.

    Broadly, there are four distinct versions of the legend that explains the origin of Sinhalese people. In all the versions, a prince comes to the island of Lanka, and establishes a community that gives rise to the Sinhalese race. The Mahavamsa and Dipavamsa name the prince as Vijaya, while the other two legends have different names for the prince.[2]

    Mahavamsa version
    In this version, Vijaya’s grandmother is a princess, whose ancestry is traced to the Vanga and Kalinga kingdoms (present-day Bengal and Odisha). She bears two children with Sinha (“lion”), who keeps them in captivity in a forest. After the princess and her two children escape from the captivity, her son Sinhabahu kills Sinha. Prince Vijaya is the son of the lion-killer Sinhabahu, who is the founder of a new kingdom called Sinhapura. Vijaya becomes the prince-regent of Sinhapura, but is exiled with 700 of his followers to Lanka, because of his evil deeds. The Mahavamsa version of the legend contains a contradiction: it states that during an earlier visit to Lanka, the Buddha expelled all the Yakkhas (Yakshas) of Lanka to another island called Giridipa. However, it later states that Vijaya encountered Yakkhas when he landed in Lanka, and a Yakkhini (female Yakkha) named Kuveni became his queen. Kuveni helps Vijaya destroy the Yakkha city of Sirisavatthu, and has two children with him. However, Vijaya has to marry a Kshatriya princess to be a legitimate ruler. Therefore, he marries the daughter of a Pandu king, who also sends other women as brides for Vijaya’s followers. Kuveni and her two children leave for the Yakkha city of Lankapura, where she is killed by the Yakkhas for betraying them. Vijaya dies without an heir. Panduvasudeva, the son of his twin brother Sumitta, arrives from India, and takes charge of Vijaya’s kingdom. The community established by Vijaya gives rise to the Sinhalese race.[2][3]

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    Guys, malinda is not worth trading words over! He is of the nalin de silva school of thought, and writes most offensively against anything not sinhala buddhist…and yet sends his kids to ladies college (a leading christian school)!!!!!

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      Well, maybe he knows something about the likes of Visakha that we don’t?
      That great Sinhala Buddhist SWRD also sent his daughters to St.Bridget’s.
      And Nalin de Silva himself is said to have a ge-name of Indian origin.

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        old codger

        “And Nalin de Silva himself is said to have a ge-name of Indian origin “

        I am told Wimal Weerawansa’s father has a deep, deep, deep South Indian name, Sankili Karuppan.

        Is it true?

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          NV,
          I don’t know about Weerawansa, but Nalin got caught on a BBC Sandesaya interview.

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            old codger

            It appears that Malinda has been living in a parallel universe, since alien abducted him many years ago and altered his genetic building blocks.

            He types:

            “Writers, cartographers and travelers had single names for the island. Descriptions speak of a single political entity”

            This island had never been a single entity until the Brits united the entire island in their own interest.

            Please ask Malinda to refer to two excellent papers by renowned and well respected historians and the details are as follows:

            Prelude to the state: An Early Phase in the Evolution of Political Institutions in Ancient Sri Lanka

            By Prof R A L H Gunawardana

            Multiple Centres of Authority in Medieval Sri Lanka

            By Prof S Pathmanathan

            Both are published in

            Reflections on a Heritage Historical Scholarship on Premodern Sri Lanka

            Central Cultural Fund

            Ministry of Cultural and Religious Affairs

            My Elders have hundreds of well researched papers to prove Malinda is talking bull. However as I have other important tasks at my hand I find no time nor inclination to entertain this alien from planet of the Morons.

            And he types:

            “Yes, a lot is often made of alleged historical ties between India and Sri Lanka. Too much and too often. So much that it is beginning to sound ridiculous.”

            What he can’t or won’t accept are the historical facts namely:

            The languages
            The Religions including Pattini cult
            Technologies
            Art
            Culture
            The mercenaries
            Food
            Trade
            Genetics/DNA
            Fashion
            Learning
            Maths
            Astronomy
            Astrology
            Customs
            Kings
            Queens
            Asylum seeking hoodlums (including Vijaya)
            Artisans
            ….
            Fashion

            National anthem
            Natum
            Close relation with Tagore’s Santiniketan which trained many artists and renowned dramatists, including Sarathchandra.

            Sinhala film industry was established by South Indians.

            Hindi and Tamil movies are not made in this island but imported from India for which there is a huge market in this island.
            …..

            Just after tsunami struck this island, India sent 5/6 ships with relief materials. One ship was used to survey the sea lanes around this island.

            On the other hand VP won the war for MR with a lot of help from Hindians (including more than 1.5 billion dollar loan/grant.)

            This island’s freedom struggle(?) was inspired by Indian independent movement and the leaders of both countries have had a close relationship.

            What is he/she/it talking about?

            Is there a way to exile these men from planet of Morons back to where normally reside?

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        True! Hopefully our dear malinda will enlighten us! As for ge-names and surnames, maybe the Nugegoda Man Dr Dayan J will tell also tell us why he doesnt use his father’s surname!

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      Its sad to note that both malinda and nalin both went to Royal but maybe they cut school when the classes where Royalists were learning about “books and men'(as the College song says)but only stuck to books.When you say “men” it means all humanity irrespective of race or religion and exclusively one.

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    Yes! Indeed! When the whole of India was clang-clang-clanging to Hari-Khrishnas and smiling-to-the-sky in Jhanic stupor (with the aid of marijuana), Sri Lanka was a focused Buddhistic Nation based on the here and now and reality! Encourage India and we too will get drunk on so many gods, that walking on defecation will be pure bliss!

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      Dear Ramona,
      Such an incisive comment from you, as I always expect. I suppose you are referring to the 50’s and 60’s when the Beatles went to India?
      Yes, at the time there was this wicked man in robes, who shot the Prime Minister and became a Christian later. This shows the disgusting attitude of the Christians, don’t you think? An unethical conversion.
      Of course this didn’t happen in our blessed focused Sri Lanka. It happened in Ceylon, so you are right, Ramona dear.

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        Ha, ha….thanks Romani! No…..India was doing those things for over six-thousand years.

        Oh, that Buddhist Priest became a Christian, did he. Probably he felt that he could escape his Karma that way…..anything other than the weight of the horror of the country upon him. Maybe he felt unworthy of being Buddhist. Maybe he felt betrayed by his own Buddhist clearly.

        Guess Buddhists were losing some of their power at that time. If Buddhism was allowed to maintain its power, Sri Lanka would have done so much better. After all the good things Bandaranaike did for the Sinhala masses, in the end, he vacillated preferred to put the money of the country into the hands of the Christian Elite. Guess in a way, the shooter sent a strong message to the successive governments, as to not undermine the Buddhists.

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          …….buddhist clergy.*

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          Ramona,
          “Oh, that Buddhist Priest became a Christian, did he”
          It is a sin to insult the Maha Sangha, the protectors of our morals. A Buddhist priest has NEVER killed anybody or any animal.That man was not a priest but a man in robes.

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            I agree!

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      ” clang-clang-clanging to Hari-Khrishnas and smiling-to-the-sky””

      You are expert of ship shop surrtu.

      Hari Krishna is still at Bushy estate Greater London of George Harrison,

      if you heard the music shows how great the indians and brits are. your only mode of communication with the outside world is via english – bottom half hamburger you may be enjoying conning your way for the white man’s dole??

      the richest man living in the UK is an Indian national- english gratitude for the shared wealth.

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    Milinda, well said well done, HIndia as a whole brought us nothing but misery.this is so through out our history but dambaviva or jambud deepa gave us precious thing call Buddhism.other than that nothing. how many three wheelers made outside hindia run on our road. not a single one. even seventy five percent of vehicle on our roads are hindian made. every trade agreement or whatever benefited only by hindian side if you talk to people live around Indian boarders like Nepalis and recently annexed territories they may tell you how brutal hindian brotherhood has been to them in every aspect of their lives. when go through most of the comment on this article it remind me a story we heard as kids on dog or jackal who followed female goat hoping fall of its breast bunch but never got it though it looks like just about to fall.likewise hoping for opening of hindian huge market and day dreaming for washing out all economic constraints. what a pity. Another myth is invader Vijaya. if Vijaya was the founder member of Sinhalese race he should have been deified by Sinhalese. must be having annual pilgrimage to the place where he said to be landed in the Island but Sinhalese do not do that but visit places where great kings whose ashes said to be buried to pay respect annually.yes Sinhalese are shows some percentage of genetic affinities with north Indian bangalis and Gujarati and keralists like that but they show some percentage of genetic affinities with afghans, Iranians and west Eurasian people as well.That does not mean Sinhalese are direct decedents of those races. our ancient primates may be same like gorillas and chymes now live in Africa bear 98.9% genes identical to human but that does not mean present human are direct decedents of those animals but both of their primate are same. that is what evolution theory says but our pundits interprets those theories the way they want. let them wait another extra hours till that bunch of female goat fall in to their lap.

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    “India exists. As of now. Sri Lanka does too.”
    “Such pilgrims obtain their visas from the INDIAN High Commission, but they visit not India but ‘Dambadiva’ (Jambudveepa).”
    Seriously, people, do you think “Malinda ” actually exists? I have serious doubts.

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      “”Seriously, people, do you think “Malinda ” actually exists? I have serious doubts. “”

      He is masoni holman near the tamarind tree.

      All tourist who obtain India visa need further Indian Visa from Tamil Nadu to visit Andaman and Nicobar.

      All tourist who obtain India visa need further Indian Visa from New Delhi to visit several of the northern eastern states.

      Both visas are issued at site to the tourist and limited.

      His Schedule class, schedule tribe ‘Dambadiva’ (Jambudveepa)
      is not in Indian vocabulary.

      Pali is not a classical language as it is a threat to india from supporters of Kuddu loving Pakistan.
      Does Linda have close contacts with mervin and former PM??

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    As per history records Cinnamon was used by Egyptians even in year 2000 BC that is around five thousand years ago.we know Cinnamon is unique to lanka and native plant of lanka specially south, south western and western wet zone. did not grow anywhere in the world. as such it should go to Egypt from sri lanka. at that time vannila aththo were hunters and gathers only not farmers or planters. nothing had been domesticated except few hunting dogs.as such some civilization should have existed in and around south south western and western wet zone.they might be hunters not in the jungle but in sea. fish provide protein and mineral human body need but that is not enough carbohydrate too is needed. coconut was there grown on seaside well before human habitation as coconut is said to be grown first in Indian ocean islands and migrated to other part of the world with sea current millions years ago.as such people inhabited in those area of the Island could have domesticated Cinnamon plantation coconut plantation and some paddy plantation that grow on out of paddy fields like sawanjatha paddy.still Cinnamon processing need some kind of R and D work to keep its required qualities and it said to be transported on sea. sea worthy packing is too needed.as we know sea water with sodium potassium and its family materials derivatives can destroy or change qualities of ant thing in few hours if open for sea water and air.as such very good civilization should have exited in those areas. galle port might have been used as loading point.traders might have been yonas or yemonists.they hidden that secret until arrival of Portuguese to lanka fabricating all sort of lies like birds brings Cinnamon branches from island to build their nest and traders rob those branches from them deceiving them. anyway this trading has nothing to do with hindians or south hindian darvedians. they were treated as vanaras at that point. as per ramayanaya battle or was between yakkas, rakshas against vanara hindians.no mentioned on nagas even ravana’s one brother was king of patala he came to war to support ravana alone no nagas there to even blow venomous air peumes against hanuman when he invaded mahi ravana’s abode in patala to destroy thing that pin his soul. newly born son of mahi ravana by the name of ahi ravana fought with hanuman on behalf of his father. that means existence of naga clan as claimed by darvedians is a myth.even victory celebrated in Indian soils not in lanka. shive linga erected in hindian soil not here. that means lanken yakka and raksha clans were not shivite or followers of him. they followed only maha brakma.that is reflected in every perahara or procession organized by people those those areas.procession led by maha bamba kolama. success or failure count on number of maha bamba kolama like asala festivities where success or failure count on number of elephants paraded.as such hindians had nothing to do with our hela civilization.

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      “”did not grow anywhere in the world. as such it should go to Egypt from sri lanka. “”

      don’t talk about a cinnamon gardens where your great great great great grandfather was never born – nava colomba malasanya. cinnamon garden was owned by an aristocrat long before Portuguese sent the servitude labour salagama.

      It is a wild plant of morocco, algeria – north africa and also the caribbean islands and other islands of asia close to banda island cambodia.
      The best of true cinnamon today is from Vietnam.

      You are built on others hearsay so please check at library and museum before writing history.
      the rulers of iberian peninsula the Moros came to Cochin for the currency which prevailed there Spain, Portugal `pepper corn` not cinammon.

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        You must be talking about cassia not true Cinnamon that is widespread species. I am talking on true cinnamon that gone to Egypt and europe from sri lanka around five thousand years ago. ancient Egypt and Europe treated true Cinnamon from sri lanka equivalent to gold.even records found in ancient pyramids vouched for it.true Cinnamon unique to sri lanka but alternative cassia is common species. processing of Cinnamon which treaded as equivalent to gold by ancient Egypt royalists and Rome empires was not easy job.it should need dedicated effort. that is why I say he had very rich civilization hela civilization here in wet zone of the Island. recently found cemeteries more than five thousand years old vouched for this rich civilization.in those cemeteries. body buried first and exhumed after some times and skeletons was burnt as per animistic belief that existed at that period among hela people.burning was done after soul of dead person totally exist out of body.that was the belief at that time not to worship so called lingaya of any god or lord.as per that belief after death souls of human become raksha and souls of animals become evil spirits like pratha or wamana. those souls were hovering in the sky. when dead body sighted it was surrounded by them like honey comb surrounded by bees.visitors of funeral may get attracted some of those spirits.that is called killa or kili. to remove it bathing is essential using sprites of special fruits like lemon. any god can not remove them even pray for thousand times.that was the belief of our ancient civilization. not worship idiots lingas.in our hela society nobody knows the existence of god called shiva. they know about vishnu, skanda and ghana. no idea on linga man.no legend even exist on this linga man but on others associated with great kings.as such we have nothing to do with north or south Indians as far as our hela civilization is concern.

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          “”You must be talking about cassia not true Cinnamon that is widespread species.””
          True is the sap and the bark is what chinese use though lanka makes oil. Cinnamon was used to paint the Ajanta frescos because it’s available at India- the saffron of the hindu was using cinnamon.

          can’t you see i said my great, great…pop and i were born at cinnamon gardens and bred there. Vietnam has the best true cinnamon in the world and the americans not only buy TC from them but offer those women workers H1B visa over the rest eg. Siemens USA as fitters and metal components.

          you have not even travelled to any of these places – your PP has no value.

          so stop the bull please.

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            bullshit. you must be still referring to cassia.not Cinnamon. this particular variety is unique to sri lanka.no where in the world that is available. in those days situation is same. I know it very well.read history records of Egyptians and Rome empire.even in records found in pyramid mentioned on Cinnamon came from our island. Vietnam manufacture only cassia not Cinnamon. yes cassia is available north east of India. not Cinnamon. for painting industrial work cassia is good enough. but royal palaces in Egypt and Rome in good old days used Cinnamon sent from our island. still our Cinnamon treated as number one in the world. no any other varieties can match quality of our Cinnamon. as a Tamil your claim your race civilized lanka and Sinhalese just like native weddas at good old days.it is a myth.your ancestors tried hard like chera chola and pandyans to wipe out our race from planet of earth but we survive. we will survive in future as well.we sinhalese built great civilization here in this Island still maintain our sovereignty as a country.though your people in tamilnadu could not do that. this is our country your country is India. through out history your people main aim was to wipe out our race from earth Tamilian target like arabs target is to wipe out jews from earth. that is not possible dear friend. we had great civilization even prehistoric era. Cinnamon trade with great civilization inthe west is vouch for it..

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              “”bullshit. you must be still referring to cassia.not Cinnamon. “”

              I always know what I am about.I knew it from the beginning and I always update my information to understand latest market trends.

              you are lazy villager who should be in the field ploughing. You are not meant for discussion because you are liar by virtue of arrogance to even hit web and find for self.

              do you understand english notes??

              though in the same `genus` as both. Saigon cinnamon has 1-5% essential oil in content and 25% cinnamaldehyde in essential oil, which is the highest of all the cinnamon species. Consequently, of the three species, Saigon cinnamon commands the highest price.

              We are not interested in your cinnamon which your man at london finds hard to sell (true cinnamon) because it does not have aroma and carries a smell of old and at times too old for consumption.
              (never will you lie to western buyers as we challenge wholesaler as per customer rights)

              The Americans and Chinese are the biggest market for Sweet Aroma Saigon Cinnamon and they have it at starbucks too.

              “”as a Tamil your claim your race civilized lanka “”

              you are sinhala speaking demala?? You are still SC/ST so there is no point you are just shit bucket carrier.

              “”sovereignty as a country.though your people in tamilnadu could not do that. this is our country your country is India. through out history your people main aim was to wipe out our race from earth Tamilian target like arabs target is to wipe out jews from earth. “”

              you talk of hay wire subjects but have never travelled and moved with people You must be a terrorist. Because Kim Jung still has cells at lanka??

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                With your comments you identify yourself as an expert in Cinnamon trade. you talk only on present situation. our trade destroyed by people like you Tamil traitors purposely when you get into top level.that is why we agitate for replacement of traitors like you people with people who love their mother land. you Tamil traitors like Indian aim is to suck out wealth of nectar of other races as much as possible and ultimately destroying it. I have associated with lots of foreign land. their idea is same with regards to Indians and Tamils.we need history to built our future to add pride to our next generations. To make them patriotic lot. you Tamils aim is to get into top positions under the cover of discrimination and destroy our economy destroy available avenues for economic prosperity as nation and go for your ultimate goal ellam.

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                  And some people are bored
                  And some people are left
                  And completely ignored
                  You’ll never get bored
                  By the way I just hope you’re insured, and self assured.

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                    No issue you are there to fight. I like fighting. let them go no issue. if you want to fight I am here. we can fight.it is an art.anyway.you do not accept my concept I do not accept yours.you Indian decent tamilians are natural traditional historical enemies of Sinhalese. how many invasions your ancestors done. might have killed millions of Sinhalese. yet our kings let your ancestors to live here. even dutugamunu called for dual in order to avoid massacre of both side. still you people idea is destroying our race.not elite class ones that is your class but normal sinhalese race.we have to fight back for self defense and our existence. you people tamilians consist around two hundred and fifty million in India alone we Sinhalese only twenty million. we are minority among Indian tamilians. we have to fight like juws for our servival. we do that

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        Cochin was not the only port available in south Asia. it was out of silk roots. you Tamils can boast but actual fact is galle port was the loading port for Cinnamon trade.around five thousand years ago. you go and read history books before advising our people. a man does not know difference between Cinnamon and cassia write on ancient cinnamon trade.get lost man.your south Indian labour might be employed by Portuguese but Cinnamon trade is more than five thousand years old.you kallathoni came with Europeans here now try to teach us history of cinnamon trade get lost man.we are malu karayos. producers of oldest folk son on earth. hale people.native people of this helaya. helu helai helaiya. hard working masses of island. that is the English version of that old folk son.

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          “”Cochin was not the only port available in south Asia.””

          Both the Brits and Dutch presented their letters from Crown to the rulers at Surat Gujarat india,
          Machilipatnam- the ancient greeks traded in muslin,

          “”Cinnamon trade.around five thousand years ago. you go and read history books before advising our people.””

          Sinhalaya modaya kavun kanda yoddaya. Buruva.

          If europeans or India fart you will smell.- EBOLA from modawanse.
          Fact book WB and CIA.
          Exports – partners:
          US 26.1%, UK 9%, India 7.2%, Germany 4.3% (2015)
          Imports – partners:
          India 24.6%, China 20.6%, UAE 7.1%, Singapore 5.9%, Japan 5.7% (2015)

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            go and read records found in ancient pyramids. it described from where they procured Cinnamon. Galle port is well known port for ancient traders from Arab, Rome and others. you red lots it seems. all got mixed up.read your books again. our ancestors are the ones who introduced Cinnamon to the world around five thousand years ago.

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              “”go and read records found in ancient pyramids.2”
              ………….Cinnamon to the world around five thousand years ago. “”

              in the western magazines they call it pakistan kuddu and sinhala boys bums for loving.- the pathetic working class.

              sinhala man is known for being a confidence trickster by using faith as a method of hoodwinking.- The shape shape society.

              you work for kuddu mervin so you are SC/ST smell of fish??

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            Quote

            Cinnamon is the inner bark of a tropical evergreen tree. A native of Sri Lanka the best cinnamon grows along the coastal strip near Colombo. In ancient Egypt cinnamon was used medicinally and as a flavouring for beverages, It was also used in embalming, where body cavities were filled with spiced preservatives. In the ancient world cinnamon was more precious than gold. This is not too surprising though, as in Egypt the abundance of gold made it a fairly common ornamental metal. Nero, emperor of Rome in the first century AD, burned a years supply of cinnamon on his wife’s funeral pyre — an extravagant gesture meant to signify the depth of his loss.

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              “”go and read records found in ancient pyramids.””

              yes your mahawamse gonibilla half man and half animal, is there. Do the bali thoil like your rajuruvo.

              Quote boat bouru Coat raincoat we give a toss to higgano cinnamon- Chinese minister of trade.

              can you beat that.??

              The Chinese and Vietnamese are neighbours and have trade dealings running into billions for centuries.

              Vietnam is advance society compared to lanka animal being.

              lellamay malu mudalali. ganda malu, Phew!!!

              Dalit, Dalit Preek preek dahl eat??

              Higanno Ehema Thama,

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          burwanselage mudalai,

          Consequently, of the three species, Saigon cinnamon commands the highest price.Saigon cinnamon contains the highest amount of coumarin of all the four Cinnamomum species sold as cinnamon, with one study detecting 6.97 g/kg in an authenticated sample.[2]

          ITS A WORLD BUYERS MARKET. WE CALL THE SHOTS AND PAY YOU WHAT WE FEEL FIT FOR YOU TO SURVIVE. NEVER THE OTHER WAY AROUND- WE THROW WHEAT INTO THE SEA THAN GIVE IT AWAY FREE TO THE HUNGRY- TO MAINTAIN OUR AGRICULTURAL POLICY.

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            yes time to time I play buruwa when got extra money.not like you play casino at five star hotel man. wahansay hansi at nandikadal seven years ago.if any wahansa try same thing we do same. you talk on present artificial Cinnamon from Vietnam but I am talking on Cinnamon trade around five thousand years ago.pure virgin material processed technology available at that time.it is the best Cinnamon in the world unique to our mother land. not like bullshit coming from tamilnadu. you Tamil insulting us.our rich civilization.you may be a rich man.I am a mudalali with ethics.

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              “”yes time to time I play buruwa when got extra money.not like you play casino at five star hotel man. wahansay hansi at nandikadal seven years ago”

              you are from the buru ande vanantere. i don’t gamble except a lottery once in a while. yes let’s have Nandikadal 2 and 3. Why not get Gotabaya the man too??

              “but I am talking on Cinnamon trade around five thousand years ago”

              who cares for pie in the sky 5000 years just puddhu buruvas higgano. If it is a painting of famous european artist it carries value.

              We live in the present and cinnamon is just another spice never an essential ingredient because too much of it creates other side effects.
              the spice islands were the clusters of carribe in the west and the archipelago of indonesia. The spice of the aristocrat nutmeg fetches the highest and was brought from Banda island/Bali to kandy by the dutch.

              you have no education except for the free bull you learn at your jungle school? you don’t visit libraries reference sections?? museums??

              if you have a mind aren’t you sitting on your mind .

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                Bullshit a man with Asian body and yanki mind. yes i studied in jungle school and graduated in university of life.my library and museum is society I live in. that is enough for me to learn every thing I want to live happy life and talk on my race our history.our ancestors did wonders with that knowledge. lessons taught by mother nature.you just like a man who get into a yanki shoes though it does not suit your foot size.get out of it and see the world Tamil fellow .you funded brutal terrorism now talk like saints.

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                  “Bullshit a man with Asian body and yanki mind. “

                  you are podiyan sinhala speaking demala and apply cowshit at sometime in your life.

                  “”yes i studied in jungle school and graduated in university of life.my library and museum is society I live in.””

                  He He HeHeHeHeHeHeHeHeHeHeHeHe.

                  Creepy 3rd world, airhead, birdbrain, bonehead, bubblehead, chowderhead, chucklehead, cluck, clunk, cretin, deadhead, dimwit, dip, dodo, ..ignoramus, you should be in the jungle doing the hoola la la!!
                  there are millions in the amazon caves and jungles like you.
                  kollo., No lamborghini but you have Badagini…

                  “our ancestors did wonders with that knowledge. lessons taught by mother nature.you just like a man who get into a yanki shoes though it does not suit your foot size.get out of it and see the world Tamil fellow .you funded brutal terrorism now talk like saints.
                  lellamay malu mudalali.

                  “”
                  moda kikile your ancestor of bestality breed asked you to keep to 4 legs for your good. She asked you to do the balli yakka thovil like your former king mahinda- that is your ignoramus culture. your ethnic strife is buddhism and islam vs other faith based.
                  you must be disenfranchised because you are product of bestality breed modawanse mahawamse for the burial grounds.- mahasoni.

                  barra karat_a gonna heard of taj mahal who made it possible?? you know what is faith and ethnic and what is race- you are still animal being while we grew through generations of the first world.

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                    Yes we are Third world people but not third class people like you all. looters of others wealth and health.you become expert on Cinnamon trade and earn your living as our ancestors introduced that to the world. you fox now condemn it and promote third class cassia Cinnamon from indo-china.only the parayas can do that. yes yanki parayas can do thing like that. they looted others land and built their fortune on other wealth and health.you cow head fall in to same category.

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                      Paaaaalyan Gamme godaya.

                      “Yes we are Third world people but not third class people like you all. looters of others wealth and health.”

                      Malu mudalai smells of piss and lives at kolonnawe Gu Kanda (dirt mountain)

                      We pay the best for the best you are stupid higgano.

                      Vietnam carried out the best after the war Saigon.We love Saigon Cinnamon.Miss Saigon.

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            get lost man. we sinhalese the one who introduced cinnomon to the world. can you make it a lie.it is written in records found in ancent pyramids. it was around five thousand ago. now with technology vietnam may be able to make cassia up to the level of cinnomon.you tamils try to defame us but truth is we produced quality cinnomon even prehistoric era.that is the fact we wanted to emphasised. he had better civilization than south india. that was our arguement. not the present situation of cinnomon trade.you tamils have nothing to do with our hela civilization here. you were vanaras while we are cultivating cinnomon in our land.If Mahawansa say lies why did your chola or pallava dunasty wise men not write alternate one disputing our chronicle.that means you did not have wise men to write such cronicle. get lost man

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        In the west and china in particular we use Saigon Cinnamon for its subtle aroma sprinkling it over coffee, pudding rice, pastries, cake- sprinkle the powder of the bark. It fetches the highest price in the world.
        like blended tea from different regions fetches the highest price at london trades or brussels.

        Street Food:In Vietnamese cuisine, Saigon cinnamon bark is an important ingredient in the broth used to make a noodle soup called phở.

        Chinese Minister informed Muslim minister lankawe- your product is outdated and must be binned. Such is the craze for Saigon Cinnamon.

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    Concerning India Linda gets the jitters. Too many nobel prizes and booker prizes a hard to beat society. 1% of America 77% of them are graduates makes 5 times more than the average American- Desi America is next to Jewish Power…..

    See the Desi boy Athul a man of great head of USAID experience. wow.

    make in india is a different story- just awaiting copyright and patent right laws.

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    Linda the foreign Dalit Puddhu,

    “First and foremost there is the issue of ‘India’. What’s India? Where is it?”

    You never lived studied and worked at anyone of the esteemed Indian Instiute.

    yours is a lot of cockbull.

    North of the Deccan the mughals entered as much as Alexander the great. The mughals could never penetrate the north east kingdoms of nepal, sikkim, nagaland, mizoram.(fierce at hand to hand battle hindus and aboriginal faiths)
    The south had the europeans as invaders while the others came as traders and married within or lived as communities- sea route only.

    The final battle for whole of india was the 3rd maratha battle when all was lost including Tamil nadu where the last maharaja Rajiviko at Thanjavur district Tamil Nadu. Nabob Welshman Clive was CEO. for madras presidency rule over ceylon. The Marathas defeated the Mughals for the British.The Brits did not fight but sold weapons like the others did.

    you are a settler dalit in the island as your DNA would approve 28% Bengali don’t you look like the dark skin Bengali??

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      bullshit.human evolve in Africa first spread whole world. even found way to Australia and Europe. first wave might be homo erectus homo erg aster second may be second or third may be homo sapience. their roots to Australia is sea beaches around arabian peninsula Iran pakistan ,gujarat kerala lanka odissa bangladesh, burma malaysia so on. on the way some gangs stayed become natives of respective land.some returnees mixed with those who stayed formed different races like mongoloid, Australoid in Europe Caucasoid like that.we sinhalese resemble aborigines rather than mongoloid Bagalis I suppose.as such origin can not be simply determined the way they want.old predators too have some percentage of genetic contribution to modern human. every living being has some genetic contribution to modern human vis a versa.as such all living beings primates may be same.you can not say you look like bangali or north indians and genetic contribution is more as such you are bangali like that.it is bullshit.we can claim otherwise. we can say hindians vanaras and we lions. can show some genetic contribution for each claim. though it is not direct descendants of each claim.

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        “”bullshit.human evolve in Africa first spread whole world. even found way to Australia and Europe. “

        repeating what we presume in the west- You must be full of cowshit like the other gass gembo of lanka

        We are talking of a period that man can conceive- even in the west where all your knowledge has to be copied from can conceive only 300 -400 years of genes. These are in all the great books, artifacts of archaeology, architecture, of indus valley at the worlds best library and museum- British your former ruler and now by proxy.- SL main export to USA then UK.
        Buddha fuddha was a later addition of a toy boy and is seen as a philosophy of thought- china has the max number of practicing buddhist in the world 60%. you are parana coat buddha surtu.

        You are trying to get lost in a maze like Lida the stupid third world mutt who happened to pass out from another foundation ivy league but did not get a gold medal merit position- just crack pot trying to become a european in attitude.

        you do not even speak the numerous north indian languages to guage what they are or have while indians know sinhala the copied collected rubbish from portugese, english, hindi, tamil etc.

        Palayaaaaaaaaaaaan.

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          again lunatic talk bullshit. that is all I can say.

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            all roads lead to Angoda.

            Free education is alla bathala the bane of your kalanthe.

            When we get into counter pro vs cons we read the best at reference sections of british library `understand` then fire off.
            getting British India from the British government is the best.

            you have no understanding because education was free.

            Higanno Ehema Thama,

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              Better go there Angoda and stay there for a while till your mol kalanthay is cured.yes we got free education as such we live independent life without licking back of others like you fellow do. we have our own pride we live with it. lunatic dogs can bark but can not stop moon shining.

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                drop the keyboard its our invention,
                Classic buruva go back on your fours and
                back into the jungle uncivilized Higgano.

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                  Truth is hurt very much.go go immediately. you need treatment very badly.it is free. Angoda is public hospital

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                    ran_ji,

                    run rob_in run.

                    “”Truth is hurt very much””

                    you got your head between your legs.!

                    truth does not boomerang to be hurt??

                    You need more than angoda.- take a gun and shoot your forehead then you learn to smile.

                    Sloth Ship Your Ass

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                      thank you very much showing your culture. any cultured man can not exchange views with idiot like you. good bye. have nice stay in a mental hospital rich man our hospitals are good enough for us.

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                      “”any cultured man can not exchange views with idiot like you. “”

                      Why So?? yours is vulture eaten culture that you have no nose, no ears,, no senses or emotions??

                      everything you eat and dress is dependant on white man economy.export brings the food from india (highest imports from india)
                      Parippu preek preek thel dala.

                      back to your fours would be better for your posture of sitting on
                      your mind. perhaps you could sharpen skills for smells, or noise.
                      in fact we deal with subjects as computational biology. but not your tall order rocket science. Pache bahu.

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    What is all this nonsense about this Senevitatne and Harvard? Harvard has produced as many fools and fanatics, racists and religious nuts and shallow propagandists as any institution. Nevertheless, one must concede Senevirante’s talent for shallow interpretations and the twisting of facts by a verbal sleights of hand.
    Point in question: When one talks about “ties” it is not necessarily about political ones.

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