19 May, 2021

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The Solution To The Ethnic Problem

By Izeth Hussain

Izeth Hussain

Izeth Hussain

The situation on the ethnic front seems to be very confused, but we can be certain, absolutely certain, on one point: the solution to the Tamil ethnic problem stares us in the face. I have the temerity to use the definite article “the” rather than “a”, meaning the solution with the emphasis on “the” and not a solution which would imply one possible solution among others. The solution I have in mind can be encapsulated in the following formula: 13A-+ (13A minus plus). It means 13A minus police and land powers plus a fully functioning democracy. In this formula the plus factor of a fully functioning democracy is more important than anything else.

But first let me comment on the confused situation on the ethnic front. After the Presidential elections there was clarity and no confusion at all on that front. The ethnic minorities voted overwhelmingly in favour of the Sinhalese candidate Maithripala Sirisena showing an exhilarating capacity to transcend the ethnic divide, 45% of the Sinhalese joined them – in fact that percentage could well have been over 50% if not for the fact that the massive resources of the state had been used illegally to promote MR’s candidature. The Sri Lankan people had clearly voted in favor of democracy and an end to our ethnic problems. Soon afterwards Northern Provincial Council Chief Minister Wigneswaran detonated his thunderbolt by the resolution demanding an international enquiry into genocide committed by Sri Lankan Governments since 1948. Thereafter, inspired by Prime Minister Modi, he wanted us to go beyond 13A towards federalism and to enter into an agreement that will be guaranteed by India. Now, he is no longer on speaking terms with Prime Minister Wickremesinghe, reportedly because of the Government’s refusal to withdraw the armed forces from the North straightaway. He and the NPC members appear now to be on a confrontation course against the Government. There seems to be no prospect of a political solution in the foreseeable future.

TNA Sampanthan SumanthiranBut TNA leader Sampanthan has declared that there will be a political solution by the end of the year, based on what was offered by the CBK Government from 1994 to 2000. This seems to completely contradict the negative postures struck by the NPC Chief Minister. We have to wonder whether there is schism within the TNA. Or is it just duplicitous behavior on the part of the TNA leaders. It is known that over many decades Tamil politicians have struck hard-line positions when talking to audiences in the North and moderate flexible positions when talking in the South. Dayan Jayatilleka, in an important article, has pointed out that as recently as 2011 Sampanthan had declared in the North that only the tactics had changed while the goal of Eelam remains unchanged. DJ raises the legitimate question whether Sampanthan can be allowed to assume the position of Opposition leader. We have to go further and ask whether Sampanthan’s sanguine expectation of a political solution by the end of the year can be taken seriously. I personally would go yet further and ask whether we can ever have a political solution on the basis of an agreement between a Sri Lankan Government and Tamil political leaders.

The situation abroad, specifically in India, is also confused. We had expected that after the Presidential elections India would play a helpful moderating role by persuading the TNA to accept some sort of compromise on land and police powers under 13A, after which we could really get cracking with the implementation of 13A though in a truncated form. But Prime Minister Modi recommended going beyond 13A, even to federalism, and the NPC Chief Minister immediately took that as a warrant for demanding that we go that far. I feel that certain facts should be brought to the Indian Government’s notice. 13A is the result of an agreement reached in 1987. If India wants us to go beyond 13A it will be seen as violating an international agreement, and also as bullying a small regional neighbor. On both counts it will be declaring itself as unfit to be made a Permanent Member of the Security Council.

Was the Hindutva ideology behind Modi’s diplomatic faux pas? One of my readers has pointed out some very significant details. In India Modi speaks in Hindi, which of course is understandable. In Colombo he spoke in English, which again is understandable because hardly anyone in his audience would have understood Hindi. But in Jaffna where also hardly anyone would have understood Hindi he spoke in Hindi. He was clearly affirming a commonality between the SL Tamils and the Hindus in the whole of India, and that clearly signified an important paradigm shift. Did that shift inspire his sudden concern for the estate Tamils? Mano Ganeshan, who is at present the leading representative of the estate Tamils, stated that Modi had been sympathetic over the woes of the estate Tamils and had invited their representatives to visit him in Delhi. Modi was of course at liberty to invite anyone he pleased, but inviting the representatives of a disaffected minority without consulting the Government is a different matter. Modi was guilty of blatant interference in the internal affairs of Sri Lanka.

Where do we go from here? Perhaps the most important fact that we have to bear in mind is that we have a Tamil ethnic problem only because of India. If not for the Tamil Nadu factor the Tamils will simply be treated as a conquered people, and the rest of the world won’t bother about them. Therefore our first priority should be to persuade the Modi Government to change course in its Sri Lanka policy. I feel sure that there is serious dissent among Indian decision-makers and opinion-makers about what looks like a Hindutva-inspired policy towards Sri Lanka. In concrete terms, it should be made clear that Prime Minister Modi was engaging in personal reminiscences and he meant no more than to assure the Sri Lankans that however far we go in devolution there would be no danger to Sri Lanka’s political unity and territorial integrity. That means that there is no warrant at all for the Tamils to demand anything more than 13A. If that is done, it should be possible to reach a political solution by the end of the year. We must bear in mind that the TNA leader Sampanthan has the reputation of being a moderate equipped with great political ability.

But what if nothing of the sort happens because the Tamils are still gripped by a drive towards collective political suicide? – see Devanesan Nesiah’s brilliant article in the Island of April 8. In that case we the people of Sri Lanka must act in terms of the mandate given by the people at the last Presidential elections, which was to implement full democracy and end our ethnic problems. That can be done by implementing as thoroughly as possible 13 A minus land and police powers together with a democracy that allows the Tamils to live in freedom and dignity throughout the island. The focus should be on meeting the economic needs of the Tamil people at the grass roots level. All of that would amount to a reversal of MR’s two-pronged strategy to solve the Tamil ethnic problem: a) humiliate the Tamils and b) go for infrastructure projects from which the Rajpak Gang could profit mightily.

If that solution stared us in the face, how is it that we failed to recognize it? The truth is that there was a failure of perception on the part of the Tamils who since the late ‘forties became fixated on the notion that their ills could be cured only through Eelam or in lieu of that a very wide measure of devolution. That approach led to a quarter century of war, with the result that the Sinhalese have developed a deep allergy to the notion that a solution requires yet more devolution, which they suspect will lead ineluctably to Eelam. I can’t see that a solution will ever be possible through further devolution. Why not try 13A minus land and police powers plus a fully functioning democracy with the emphasis on democracy? There are many minorities, including the Tamils, who are living quite happily in the Western countries under fully functioning democracies without any devolution at all. Why not here? True, the Tamils had a kingdom here at one time. But for the most part they lived together with the Sinhalese without any power sharing arrangement by way of devolution, in a relationship that was for the most symbiotic, not antagonistic. I am convinced that the formula I am suggesting, if properly implemented, will end the ethnic problem for good.

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    “Perhaps the most important fact that we have to bear in mind is that we have a Tamil ethnic problem only because of India. If not for the Tamil Nadu factor the Tamils will simply be treated as a conquered people, and the rest of the world won’t bother about them. Therefore our first priority should be to persuade the Modi Government to change course in its Sri Lanka policy.”

    Is that your only motivation to solve the decades old “ethnic problem” that is seen by most Tamils to be a genocide? You should be ashamed of yourself and your ignorance! Would you have the same opinion had it been the Muslims in the place of the Tamils?

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      Why doesn’t Hussain talk about the influence of aggressive, violent Islamist Wahbism that is clearly growing in Sri Lanka, adding to the aggressiveness of Sri Lankan Moors?

      Isn’t the influence of Saudi Arabia in financing madrasas and Wahabism in every corner of Sri Lanka – giing rise to an increasing number of Muslim women sporting burka, niqab, hijab etc – worth deploring as much as Modi’s influence on Sri Lanka.

      This man is part of the brigade that is pursuing an aggressively selfish Islamic future ambitions agenda in Sri Lanka.

      Sooner we address it will be the better. Forget India for the moment!

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        Izeth Hussain,

        Has now taken the role of Dayan Jayatilake in prescribing what Tamils should have and what they should not have.

        Dayan is the Sinhala side, and Izeth the Muslim side of the same Sinhala majoritarian state coin. They don’t care what the aspirations of Tamils are.

        After all they are loyal to the racist state that keeps feeding them in retirement too! They are just mercenaries.

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          Dear Thiru,

          Re “Dayan is the Sinhala side, and Izeth the Muslim side of the same Sinhala majoritarian state coin. They don’t care what the aspirations of Tamils are.”

          What’s your problem Thiru, is he not “Tamil Speaking”?

          Reading the comments here from the “Tamils” makes one wonder about the “Tamil Speaking” chest thumping.

          Tamil Speaking is only a ploy, a deceitful numbers game aimed at claiming a majority in the East where the Tamils are a minority of 40% of the population.

          All these Tamil guys and Gals are claiming that the ASPIRATIONS of the Tamils (as an ethnic group) does not coincide with the Aspirations of the Muslims.

          Exposes the DOUBLE TALK of these thieving Separatists.

          Everything boils down to Tamil Separatist’s Greed for Land.

          Kind Regards,
          OTC

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        Slasher

        “Isn’t the influence of Saudi Arabia in financing madrasas and Wahabism in every corner of Sri Lanka – giving rise to an increasing number of Muslim women sporting burka, niqab, hijab etc – worth deploring as much as Modi’s influence on Sri Lanka.”

        The Bulk of the True Muslims have been infected by nthe Wahhabi and its Clones, ISIS, ISIL, Taliban, Boko Haram etc, and confused many ignorant muslims.

        The Wahhabis follow Iblis, The Shaitan, Satan, The devil. There are over 25 references to the Devil , Iblis in the Quran,

        Until, the Wahhabis are exposed the Wahhabi Virus will spread.

        Those Muslims who have fallen unders the wahhabis are victims, and they need to be rescued by exposing the Iblis Following Wahhabis as much as possible.

        Then sri lanka can get to sri Lanka 60 years ago, Free of Wahhabism, and Niqabs and Burqas.

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          “”Then sri lanka can get to sri Lanka 60 years ago, Free of Wahhabism, and Niqabs and Burqas. “”

          Pan-Arab and Socialism- policy of “playing the superpowers against each other” ended.[2
          Arabic-speaking world and historian Eugene Rogan wrote, “Nasser conquered the Arab world by radio.”[129]Lebanese sympathizers of Nasser and the Egyptian embassy in Beirut—the press center of the Arab world—bought out Lebanese media outlets to further disseminate Nasser’s ideals.[130]
          The U.S. Eisenhower administration condemned the tripartite invasion, and supported UN resolutions demanding withdrawal and a United Nations Emergency Force (UNEF) to be stationed in Sinai.[122] Nasser commended Eisenhower, stating he played the “greatest and most decisive role” in stopping the “tripartite conspiracy”.[123] By the end of December, British and French forces had totally withdrawn from Egyptian territory,[122] while Israel completed its withdrawal in March 1957 and released all Egyptian prisoners of war.[117][124]
          In January 1957, the US adopted the Eisenhower Doctrine and pledged to prevent the spread of communism and its perceived agents in the Middle East.[131] Although Nasser was an opponent of communism in the region, his promotion of pan-Arabism was viewed as a threat by pro-Western states in the region.[131][132] Eisenhower tried to isolate Nasser and reduce his regional influence by attempting to transform King Saud into a counterweight
          The USA/UK backs the royal families and coup de tat generals who can control a nation while they exploit the resources and people.

          Left leaning working class Nasser the post man’s son started Pan_Arab terror to oust the rulers Pan_Islam. So the royalist hardened until the time has come for it to bomb its neighbour the Pan_Arab.
          policy of “playing the superpowers against each other” ended.[2

          Nasser resolved to depose him.[60] In June, Nasser took control of the interior ministry post from Naguib loyalist Sulayman Hafez,[61] and pressured Naguib to conclude the abolition of the monarchy.[60
          Between April and June, hundreds of Naguib’s supporters in the military were either arrested or dismissed, and Mohieddin was informally exiled to Switzerland to represent the RCC abroad.[70] King Saud of Saudi Arabia attempted to mend relations between Nasser and Naguib, but to no avail.[71]
          The Soviet Union soon resupplied the Egyptian military with about half of its former arsenals and broke diplomatic relations with Israel. Nasser cut relations with the US following the war, and, according to Aburish, his policy of “playing the superpowers against each other” ended.[238] In November, Nasser accepted UN Resolution 242, which called for Israel’s withdrawal from territories acquired in the war.
          In June 1970, Nasser accepted the US-sponsored Rogers Plan, which called for an end to hostilities and an Israeli withdrawal from Egyptian territory, but it was rejected by Israel, the PLO, and most Arab states except Jordan.[246] Nasser had initially rejected the plan, but conceded under pressure from the Soviet Union, which feared that escalating regional conflict could drag it into a war with the US. As the summit closed on 28 September 1970, hours after escorting the last Arab leader to leave, Nasser suffered a heart attack.

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      Izeth Hussain –

      RE: The Solution To The Ethnic Problem

      Expose the Paras, aka Para-deshis.

      For example, call the Sinhala Ravya, Para-Sinhala Ravya. BBS as Para-BBS etc.

      Widely publicise the FACT that the so-called Sinhala, the so-called Tamils, the so-called Muslim and the others, including the European Parangioos are ALL PARAS.

      So Refer to Sinhal as Para- Sinhala, and tamils as Para-Tamils, and Muslims as Para-Muslims and all others as Para-etc. in the Land of Native Veddah Aethho.

      This Land belongs to the Native Veddah Aethho, who walked 25,000 years ago to claim the Land. It is theirs. Request the Paras to behave. If they can’t ask them to get back to India, Bharat, Dambadiva or from wherever they came from.

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        “”This Land belongs to the Native Veddah Aethho, “”

        2-3 dozen folk from Africa who walked while you were??

        Send them to `Andaman islands` because that is where their relatives are- well cared for by UNESCO and Tamil Nadu.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andamanese_people
        The Andamanese people are the various aboriginal inhabitants of the Andaman Islands, a district of India located in the southeastern part of the Bay of Bengal.
        The Andamanese resemble other Negrito groups in Southeast Asia. They are pygmies, and are the only modern people outside of certain parts of Sub-Saharan Africa with steatopygia. They lead a hunter-gatherer lifestyle, and appear to have lived in substantial isolation for thousands of years. The Andamanese are believed to be descended from the migrations which, about 60,000 years ago, brought the first modern humans out of Africa to the Andaman Islands.
        By the end of the eighteenth century, when they first came into sustained contact with outsiders, there were an estimated 7,000 Andamanese divided into five major groups. Each group had distinct cultures, separate domains, and mutually unintelligible languages. In the next century they were largely wiped out by diseases, violence, and loss of territory. Today, there remain only approximately 400–450 Andamanese. One group has long been extinct, and only two of the remaining groups still maintain a steadfast independence, refusing most attempts at contact by outsiders.
        The Andamanese are a designated Scheduled Tribe.[1]

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          Mus

          The Andamanese migrated much earlier than the Native Veddah Aethho, probably 60,000 years or earlier.

          The Native Veddah Aethho came around 25,000 years ago, and they are modern humans, and they inhabited the Land of Native Veddah Aethho, commonly called Lanka and other names by the Paras, who arrived much later. The Native Veddah Aethho are not pygmies.

          The Native Veddah Aethho learned the Para Languages of Sinhala and Tamil so that they could communicated with the Paras. Remember how the Sinhala and Tamil Paras learned Para-Portuguesa, Para-Dutch and Para-English so that they could communicate with the European Paras.

          The Vedda Tribe

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f89NuukY32U

          Tamil-speaking Veddas of Vaharai await war recovery support

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeFCuZwexRw

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedda_people

          Vedda also retains a number of unique words that cannot be derived from Sinhalese. Conversely, Sinhalese has also borrowed from the original Vedda language, words and grammatical structures, differentiating it from its related Indo-Aryan languages. Vedda has exerted a substratum influence in the formation of Sinhalese.

          Veddas that have adopted Sinhala are found primarily in the southeastern part of the country, especially in the vicinity of Bintenne in Uva District. There are also Veddas that have adopted Sinhala who live in Anuradhapura District in the North Central Province.[3]

          Another group, often termed East Coast Veddas, is found in coastal areas of the Eastern Province, between Batticaloa and Trincomalee. These Veddas have adopted Tamil as their mother tongue.[4][5]

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            Modaya for 2 dozen vs 20 million?/

            The Yankees won’t bother- their slip is showing.
            http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11522910/On-the-Civil-Wars-150th-anniversary-black-people-are-still-being-killed-in-the-USA.html )
            Geographic space became racialised, too. The blacks moved into ghettoes; the whites fled to the suburbs. One thing that has characterised the controversial killings by police officers or vigilantes has been the ferocity shown to African-Americans crossing over into “white space” – be they genuine miscreants or hapless souls in the wrong place at the wrong time. While the presence of Barack Obama in the White House represents a civil rights breakthroughinto the most exclusive “space” in society, evidence of territorial mistrust in everyday life continues.
            There is a temptation on the anniversary of the Civil War to remember it as a war between gentlemen, sharing respectful condolences in Appomattox Courthouse before passing on “the sad news” of defeat. The reality is that the conflict represented a struggle to build a nation that was only half won by the forces of liberation, that the demand for equality was controversial even among the enlightened and that America has yet to resolve the problems it sought to address. A significant proportion of Americans have won their citizenship yet are still regarded as scarcely capable of actualising it. They await their full and proper Reconstruction.

            Watch the Yankees export their wares of human rights. South Carolina police officer who shot fleeing black man ‘looked like he was trying to kill a deer in the woods’ Michael Slager, a South Carolina policeman, has been charged with murder after killing Walter Scott as he ran away, but the father of the dead man say that the case would have been “swept under the rug” without bystander’s video

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            Even Native does not know the history of India and thinks its Hindian (Punjabi/Jat) He has no idea of the Deccan and who fought the invaders from Mughal to Europeans.
            Punjabi Parse is the European rule promption. Pakistan East West was created by American President Roosevelt to attack Russia at a later stage.

            Even when Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington became Prime Minister of Britain he held Maratha infantry in utmost respect, claiming it to be one of the best in world at the same time however he noticed the poor leadership of Maratha Generals, who were often responsible for their defeats.[81] Charles Metcalfe, one of the ablest of the British Officials in India and later acting Governor-General, wrote in 1806:

            “India contains no more than two great powers, British and Mahratta, and every other state acknowledges the influence of one or the other. Every inch that we recede will be occupied by them.”[82][83]

            Most British Authors agree that Maratha infantry was equal to that of British infantry. After the Third Anglo-Maratha war in 1818, Britain listed the Marathas as one of the Martial races to serve in British Indian Army.[84]
            Maratha Navy

            A painted scroll depicting different types of ships of the Marathan Navy including some captured English ships.
            The Maratha Empire is credited with laying the foundation of the Indian Navy and bringing about considerable changes in naval warfare by introducing a blue-water navy. The Maratha Empire is also credited for developing many important cities like Pune, Baroda, and Indore. From its inception in 1674, the Marathas established a Naval force, consisting of cannons mounted on ships.
            The dominance of the Maratha Navy started with the ascent of Kanhoji Angre as the Darya-Saranga by the Maratha chief of Satara.[74] Under that authority, he was admiral of the Western coast of India from Bombay to Vingoria (now Vengurla) in the present day state of Maharashtra, except for Janjira which was affiliated with the Mughal Empire.
            The Marathas established watch posts on the Andaman Islands and are credited with attaching those islands to India.[13][14] He attacked English, Dutch and Portuguese ships which were moving to and from East Indies.[75] Until his death in 1729, he repeatedly attacked the colonial powers of Britain and Portugal, capturing numerous vessels of the British East India Company and extracting ransom for their return.
            On 29 November 1721, a joint attempt by the Portuguese Viceroy Francisco José de Sampaio e Castro and the British General Robert Cowan to humble Kanhoji failed miserably. Their combined fleet consisted of 6,000 soldiers in no less than four Man-of-war besides other ships led by Captain Thomas Mathews of the Bombay Marine failed miserably. Aided by Maratha naval commanders Mendhaji Bhatkar and Mainak Bhandari, Kanhoji continued to harass and plunder the European ships until his death in 1729.
            The ‘Pal’ was a three masted Maratha man-of-war with guns peeping on the broadsides.

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      This writer is a racist who has gone mad. Since the collapse of Apartheid, the worst racist states are the muslim countries with Saudi Arabia and Pakistan at the top of the list. Historically it is well documented that Islam was spread by murder and ethnic cleansing. In Srilanka, proportionately there are more racists among the Muslims than among Sinhalese or Tamils. In Srilanka, Islamic racism is lying low because of the fear of a backlash which will be detrimental to the Muslims. If given a chance it will show it’s ugly head. Muslims fear that once Tamils are finished or if the Tamil problem is solved, then the Sinhalese will turn on Muslims. Thus their desire to keep the Sinhala Tamil conflict to go on to protect them. Therefore what this writer has expressed is according to this agenda. Now I am convinced that the low levels to which the Srilanka’s foreign service had sunk is due to people like this. When he says that India asks Srilanka to go beyond 13A, it contravenes international laws, he must remeber that when srilanka does not implement the provisions in 13A, it contravenes international law. Therefore when he asks Srilanka not to give Police and Land powers which are entrenched in the accord, he asks Srilanka to wilfully violate International law. Such idiotic advice cannot come from an intelligent person versed in diplomacy. It is the goodness of India for not taking any action against Srilanka for not implementing the accord fully to give Tamils the agreed autonomy. This person must understand that the Tamil problem is not all about economy, which if corrected will disappear, but a struggle for legimate rights to live as first class citizens in dignity and safety determining their future by themselves. Police powers are necessary to prevent murder of Tamils by agents of the government and Land powers are necessary to prevent the Sinhala agenda of ethnic cleansing and cultural destruction. It is foolish for this writer to think that Tamils do not have self respect and will accept without protest, what is given by the Sinhalese.

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        Dr GS – your bellowings about my alleged racism and Muslim racism, without producing a shred of evidence, amount to abuse, not argument. Don’t waste my time with your abuse. Both sides failed to abide by the terms of the Peace Accords.The point is that at the present juncture there is a good chance of a solution by implementing 13A even partially, provided that that goes together with a fully functioning democracy. Modi needs to be rapped on the knuckles for complicating matters by recommending that we go beyond 13A.
        You write that I ask Sri Lanka not to give police and land powers. Can you tell me where I have done so? I have argued many times that we can give any amount of devolution without that by itself leading to a separate state. The point is that giving those powers just now is not practical politics. I have not assumed that the Tamil problem is all about the economy. I have placed the emphasis on democracy which, as in the West, will ensure for the Tamils the status of first-class citizens. I will reply later to your insult about my diplomacy = IH

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          Dear IH, If you are not a racist, please write about the atrocities committed by the Muslims on Tamils. It is well documented that some Muslims joined the security forces and harassed Tamils living in the east especially around Samanthurai area and Oddumavadi area. They have committed murder and ethnic cleansing and are now claiming that they are the majority in the east. They have destroyed houses, shops and places of worship of Tamils but no action had been taken on them. You are woefully silent on these, and that is why I am calling you a racist, when you try to suggest things to Tamils.

          You say that both parties did not bide by the accord, which is not quite true. As for the Tamils, it is the LTTE which did not and not the majority of Tamils who wanted it implemented. I was working in Jaffna at that time and Tamil intelligentsia wanted Prabaharan to accept it, which he refused, saying that he knows what to do. By that time a foreign power which wanted to sabotage the accord, had bought him over. Premadasa gave money and weapons to LTTE to fight IPKF, and sabotage it. He refused to allow NEPC to function properly, and in frustration they declared UDI. If Prabaharan did what Tamils wanted him to do, they would have won.

          Democracy will not help Tamils to enjoy their rights because in democracy it will be the rule of the majority which means rule of Sinhalese over Tamils. therefore Tamils need a proper sharing of power and territory, where they can rule themselves. Since 1987, several such problems in the world have either been settled with full independence or substantial autonomy far greater than that is envisaged in the Indo-Lanka accord. Therefore to suggest that Tamils should accept something less now than in 1987 is utter foolish. Tamils should not suffer just because majority of Sinhalese are not prepared to grant their legitimate rights. Your views are skewed, and therefore please stop writing about it.

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            Dr GS – I must be the only Muslim, in fact the only Sri Lankan non-Tamil, who has referred more than once in his writings to the fact that Muslim home guards got together with the STF and drove out Tamils from around sixteen villages in the Eastern Province. Around 2000 the journalist Eelaventhan made a declaration to that effect at a meeting of the ICES. I immediately asked him to provide the details so that I could write an article about it. He did not do so. I made the same request to another Tamil some weeks ago, again without avail. Can you or someone else give me the details? You seem to be unaware that I have been outspokenly critical of Muslims for having supported the Sinhalese in all their racist idiocies against the Tamils, thereby contributing in no small measure to the ethnic tragedy. I have also been strongly critical of MR for his anti-Tamil racism.
            I am very surprised by your misconception about democracy. It is not the assertion of the will of the majority. There is no democracy unless democratic principles are observed. That was pointed out by de Tocqueville as far back as the eighteenth century.
            I am not asking the Tamils to accept anything. It is not practical politics to give land and police powers just now. Therefore implement thoroughly the rest of 13A together with democracy as understood and practiced in the West. – IH

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              Mr Hussain,

              “I am not asking the Tamils to accept anything. It is not practical politics to give land and police powers just now.”

              It seems that you have written an article about finding a solution to the ethnic problem without really comprehending the root cause! You say that giving land and police powers is not practical now; if this is the case, there will never be a solution. It is because; the issue of contention is about the Sinhala wilfully changing the demography in favour of the Sinhala! Without the land powers in particular, there will not be security for the Tamils as the southern quest to make the Sinhala majority throughout the country will not be softened. Surely, you do not think that the Tamils are stupid to buy your ideas. You may have good intentions and genuinely wanting to see peace, but until and unless there is a genuine realisation that the Tamils constitute a nation and a democratic accommodation of such a concept, there will never be a solution that is acceptable to the Tamils.

              Your indignation towards India is conspicuous in your writings but you do not realise that India has Muslim population that outweighs the number of Muslims in Pakistan. Her tolerance towards somewhat hostile Muslim population is commendable. India has a moral duty to ensure that the Tamils in Sri Lanka have political Security; this is what Modi is endeavouring to do. 13A Plus is the way forward and the sooner the Southern polity comes to terms with it the quicker a viable solution can be found.

              Dr GS,

              “Democracy will not help Tamils to enjoy their rights because in democracy it will be the rule of the majority which means rule of Sinhalese over Tamils. therefore Tamils need a proper sharing of power and territory, where they can rule themselves.”

              Democracy is not at fault but its application in Sri Lanka. Good Governance is extremely critical along with a meaningful power-sharing arrangement. Whatever solution is endeavoured that is viable and acceptable to both sides should be implemented with sincerity. The Tamils must not rule but govern.

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              “”I must be the only Muslim, in fact the only Sri Lankan non-Tamil, who has referred more than once in his writings”

              Nice one [Edited out] Izeth hussain (hindi foreigner from Mughal Genghis khan)) the religious fanatic a mistake of the dying Dutchman Democrat Roosvelt.
              Religious/totalitarianism Fanatics need democracy to flourish like parasites.

              In the west and south of it we see that Muslims are jealous of the Pig because it eats the dropping which is recycling of gold.

              The Chinese see the Pig as its GDP and it’s the meat not the fat.- the greatest happiness undoubtedly is in the movement of the bowels not going to Mecca or Rome or Buddha Gaya.

              The English are afraid and shrewdly shy to mention it but laugh to hide their weakness.

              As Spaniards we are the makers of the tastiest food in the world-Haute Cuisine – it comes from scientific study and tradition of curing Ham,Jamón, Wine-making, Olive Oil making, Cheese making.
              The Yellows are crazy about our food and we catch them by the tummy not stupid Watalappam (coconut head) or Biryani.

              Ferran Adrià his cooking as deconstructivist. As he likes to say, “the ideal customer doesn’t come to elBulli to eat but to have an experience.”

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              Dear Dr. Gnana Sankaralingam,

              Eastern Province – Created in 1833, composed of the maritime districts of Batticaloa and Trincomalee, and the Kandyan provinces of Bintenna and Tamankaduwa. In 1873 Tamankaduwa was removed. In 1886 Bintenna was removed. (wiki)

              Before the advent of the Portuguese and Dutch, both Batticaloa and Trincomalee were part of the Kandyan Kingdom.

              The Kandyan Kingdom was divided in to 5 Disavannies and they were subdivided into Korales and Pattus. These are not reflected in the British creation. Vast areas of the Kandyan Kingdom was forest land. That was one of the reasons why foreign powers could not subdue it.

              Today’s Eastern Province is WHOLLY a part of the Sinhalese Kandyan Kingdom which was overwhelmingly Sinhala.

              The current EP is a creation of the British in 1886 and is an aberration of historical territorial habitation caused by the attachment of uninhabited forest (public) land with the coastal habitation.

              The Tamil Kingdom ceased to exist more than Two and a Half Centuries earlier, in 1624.

              Dutch ruled the Jaffna Tamil Kingdom from 1658 till it was ceded to the British. According to Dutch records, they were at war with the Kandyan Kingdom whose territory extended up to Elephant Pass on Mainland Lanka.

              The Muslims were given refuge by King Senarath within the Eastern part of the Kandyan Kingdom when they were being terrorised and persecuted by the Portuguese.

              Hence your claim to the East on the mainland is FRAUDULENT and is the cause of the present Ethnic crisis with the Tamils.

              Eastern Province
              Lanka Tamils…610,033…National percent 3.00%
              Moors……….574,327…National percent 2.82%
              Sinhalese……360,738…National percent 1.77%
              Territory….2,470,065 Acres, National percent 15.38%

              The territory is 5 times the Lanka Tamil population or 5.5 times the Muslim population or 2.6 times the combined Tamil and Muslim population. Hence it cannot be justified on grounds of need or fairness or justice.

              Thus there is a massive surplus of land that is not needed to support the current population of the East.

              A possible Solution.

              Divest the excess PUBLIC LAND by removing UNINHABITED public land from the EP leaving sufficient land for the existing population to live comfortably (private land is untouched). Thus the Demography of the EP will be preserved and hence the Political balance of power in the New EP will remain undisturbed an unaltered.

              Do the same process with the North Central and Northern provinces. Here again the Demography will be preserved and hence the Political balance of power remains unchanged.

              Devolve Land powers to the Provinces as Public land under the control pf the provinces would be proportionate to the inhabitants.

              Create a Central govt administered Territory (like in the USA and India) from the divested land. This territory would be reserved for development and settling the Landless Sri Lankan Citizens who are willing to reside in the new developments.

              Thus no community will feel cheated of their Birthright.

              Kind Regards,
              OTC

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                Exactly ehrn did the Sinhsla move out of the East? How do you explain as to why neither the eastern Tamils nor the Muslims had been totally ignorant of the Sinhsla language?

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                  This was meant for OTC,

                  This should have read:

                  “Exactly when did the Sinhsla move out of the East? How do you explain as to why neither the eastern Tamils nor the Muslims had been totally ignorant of the Sinhsla language?”

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                    Dear Burning Issue,

                    I see that you have avoided the core issues I have raised.

                    Re “Exactly when did the Sinhsla move out of the East?”
                    .
                    Exactly when did the Tamils move in to the East?

                    We know that the Kandyan king, the Portuguese, the Dutch and the British employed Indian Mercenaries in their armies and that the Portuguese, Dutch and the British imported South Indian Labour to work in the Maritime areas under their control and the British brought in Madrasi officials to administer the areas under them.

                    “Aumildars and other native officials from Madras had no bond of common interest with the Sinhalese to restrain their rapacity and cruelty” (Ceylon Under British Rule, 1795 -1932 by Lenox A. Mills page 22)

                    “the employment of Madras civil servants in Ceylon was not a success. The Governor was compelled by the Directors’ orders to fill most of the vacancies from that service,…. Furthermore, the native languages and customs of Ceylon were so totally different to those of Madras …..” (ibid page 34)

                    “Muslim and “Malabar” traders, in addition to Chetties, also connected the Kandyan court and rural villages to the sea, and kept alive Kandy’s historic ownership of five ports along the coast for its trade. The kingdom’s ownership of these ports had been interrupted when the Dutch proclaimed their right of rule over a continuous strip of land around the island by 1766.” (Islanded: Britain, Sri Lanka, and the Bounds of an Indian Ocean Colony By Sujit Sivasundaram, Page 13)

                    Their presence and language is thus explained but proof of historical habitation is very short and very much shorter than the that of the Sinhalese.

                    Kind Regards,
                    OTC

                    To All Tamil people and Sinhalese who celebrated the New Year on April 14th, I wish a year filled with Peace, Health, Wealth and Happiness.

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                      OTC,

                      You wrote the below:

                      https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/what-velupillai-chelvanayakam-envisaged-velupillai-prabakaran/comment-page-1/

                      “Thus the Territory South and East of Elephant Pass was the Sinhala Kingdom of Kandy. There was absolutely NO Tamil Kingdom in the East.”

                      I asked as to exactly when did the Sinhala move out of East?

                      You say:

                      “I see that you have avoided the core issues I have raised.”

                      The CT audience know pretty well that you are a master at prevarication. You claim that the East was part of the Sinhala country, so the mass evacuation of the Sinhala from the East must have happened post Portuguese era. Can you substantiate this please? Also show this forum that the imported Tamils from India populated the East that made the Sinhala to withdraw. This is central to your argument that you need to unambiguously substantiate.

                      Please refrain from manifest your pompous condescending rubbish and show with deeds as to when the Sinhala vacated the East and when the Tamils moved in from India.

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                Again this is a racist propaganda by the Sinhalese. Srilanka does not belong to Sinhalese or Tamils. Both migrated from India, mainly from the south and few inputs from north and east India, as proved by the genetic studies done by the Colombo medical faculty. The original natives have been forcibly assimilated into Sinhala and Tamil ethnic groups, those in North, north west and north east have become Tamils, and those from west, south, South east and central areas have become Sinhalese. Of the Veddhas, some are still remaining as such, while most of them in the central and south central areas have become Sinhalese. However the Veddhas in the eastern coastal plains have become Tamils and are the true owners of the eastern province. They worshiped Murugan and have their temple at Kataragama to which shrine they do an annual pilgrimage by foot. Other Tamils like Mukkuwas, Sinhalese and Muslims settled in eastern province later.

                Just because eastern province south of Mahaveli ganga was under the Kandyan Kingdom does not mean that the land belongs to the Sinhalese. Srilanka was under the British Kingdom, does that mean that British could claim that it belongs to them. Please come out of your racist mind set and relate the true picture. Sinhala people after independence embarked on a program of Sinhalisation of Srilanka by settling Sinhalese in large amounts in the eastern province and later in non peninsular part of northern province. The deportation of one million Indian Tamils and forced exodus of Ceylon Tamils due to war are part and parcel of the program. In the modern world forced change of demography leading to cultural destruction by changing of names of places is regarded as a racist process. You have completely ignored all these when making suggestions, which will entrench the Sinhala racist program.

                The correct solution is to remove Amparai electorate from eastern province and link it to Uva province, and similarly remove Puttalam electorate which has Tamil place names, with a Muslim majority, where ancient urn burial sites, a hall mark of Dravidian civilisation has been discovered, to be removed from north western province and linked to northern province. Also Gomarankadawela AGA area from the east and Vavuniya south AGA division from the north can be removed and linked to North central province. After this re-demarcation, Northern and eastern provinces to be linked as a single entity. In this united north east, carve out Muslim majority areas and bring them into one sub-council similar to Pondichery model. This will bring justice to Tamils, and satisfy the Muslims who want their own council, and bulk of the Sinhalese who do not want to be part of Tamil ruled council. Obviously this will not satisfy Sinhala racists.

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                  Dear Dr. Gnana Sankaralingam,

                  Yours of April 14, 2015 at 2:47 am

                  Re “Again this is a racist propaganda by the Sinhalese. Srilanka does not belong to Sinhalese or Tamils”

                  You seem to be very free in using the label “RACIST” when you cannot meet arguments.

                  The Tamil United Liberation Front claimed in their Election Manifesto of 1977 that the Northern Province and the Eastern Province is “Exclusively the Homeland of the Tamils”

                  That is RACIST by any democratic standard.

                  Hence please dispense with the rhetoric and engage in a civil debate.

                  I did not say Sri Lanka belongs to the Sinhalese. That knee jerk reaction of yours explains a lot about your outlook.

                  Sinhalese did not come to Sri Lanka, their ancestors did. Sinhalese evolved in Lanka and that’s why you can’t find them as indigenes anywhere else in the world.

                  Scientific data indicates that the Tamils of Lanka do not have a GENETIC connection with Lanka’s Plantation Tamils who we know are South Indian. The Lanka Tamils however have a strong genetic connection to the Sinhalese. This leads me to believe that the Lanka Tamils are Tamil speaking Sinhalese. Please read the following comment of mine (one amongst the many I have written) for more information.

                  https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/heritage-nationalism-a-bane-of-sri-lanka/comment-page-1/#comment-1804722

                  You have not been able to counter the proposal I made about EXCISING UNINHABITED PUBLIC LAND from the three provinces (one Sinhalese, one mixed and one Tamil majority) that together has the LARGEST EXTENT of UNINHABITED PUBLIC LAND within them.

                  My proposal DOES NOT change any of the following.

                  1. Existing Demography.
                  2. Existing Political Power of the people.
                  3. Existing Habitation.
                  4. Existing Private Land Holdings.

                  It ONLY ensures that the PUBLIC resources which are the BIRTHRIGHT of ALL Sri Lankan Citizens are used for the benefit of ALL Sri Lankans and not for just a small group of them.

                  What are your arguments against it?

                  Kind Regards,
                  OTC

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                    Existing demography in eastern province is a result of Sinhala racist policies of large scale colonization of Sinhalese and ethnic cleansing of Tamils. Correct position is to bring back the over all majority that Tamils had before all these racist programs took place. The demographic pattern shows that Tamils were 60% in Eastern province at one stage, and this has diminished to make them a minority. Sinhalese people complained about the presence of large amount of Indian Tamils in the Kandyan areas, and to please them the government first disenfranchised them and subsequently deported them. If the government could do that in Kandyan areas, then government must do that in Eastern province also. There cannot be different justice for Sinhalese and Tamils, unless the government is racist. Eastern province should be ruled by Tamils and not by either Sinhalese or Muslims by themselves or in conjunction.

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                      Dear Dr. Gnana Sankaralingam,

                      You have not brought out a single argument against what I have proposed and has been harping adnauseum about an Eastern Province that did not exist during the Tamil Kingdom days.

                      Is it because your true nature will get exposed?

                      Re “Existing demography in eastern province is a result of Sinhala racist policies of large scale colonization of Sinhalese and ethnic cleansing of Tamils”

                      You have quietly dispensed with the Tamil Kingdom and has jumped centuries of history (Kandyan Sinhala rule, Portuguese rule, Dutch rule, early British rule) in to late 19th century British rule.

                      Please justify.

                      Even then you cannot establish any Tamil rule in Lanka’s East. To cover the weakness you are concentrating on habitation.

                      Under the British, the territory under their control was divided as follows.

                      In 1798 it was 13 provinces under 3 revenue collectors
                      In 1833 it became 5 provinces
                      In 1886 it became 9 provinces

                      Before the arrival of Colonials, Eastern Lanka was a part of the Sinhala Kandyan Kingdom which covered the whole Eastern Seaboard up to Elephant Pass in the North. The majority within that territory were Sinhalese.

                      First establish the territorial boundary (with reasons) before you start talking of a majority population within it.

                      You will not be able to prove ANY Tamil control over the Land in the East and any Tamil habitation beyond small coastal areas (mercenaries hired by the Kandyan Kings and Colonial mercenaries and labour).

                      Who are the Racists? People who claim parts of Lanka as their EXCLUSIVE domain based on ethnicity or those who do not?

                      It was the Tamil United Liberation Front established by S. J. V. Chelvanayakam, G. G. Ponnambalam, Savumiamoorthy Thondaman who claimed in their Election Manifesto of 1977 that the Northern Province and the Eastern Province is “Exclusively the Homeland of the Tamils”

                      Thus who the RACISTS are is patently clear.

                      Ethnic Cleansing

                      The ONLY ethnic cleansing in Lanka took place in the North where the Sinhalese and Muslims were ethnically cleansed from the North creating a 100% Mono ethnic Tamil Territory.

                      Colonization.

                      Colonization occurred in a massive an unprecedented scale ONLY in the Sinhala Hinterland, the Highlands of Lanka.

                      Draconian Laws such as the Waste Lands Act, Crown Land Enforcement Ordinance, Land Settlement Ordinance etc. were used to Rob the Sinhalese of their Lands.

                      Alien Indians were used to Colonise those Lands rendering the Indigenous Sinhalese a minority in their own Hinterland.

                      The numbers of Aliens exceeded even the TOTAL indigenous Tamil population inhabiting Lanka. In 1911, there were 531,000 ALIEN INDIAN TAMILS in the Kandyan Kingdom. In that year there were ONLY 528,000 Lanka Tamils in the whole of Lanka.

                      How do you plan to correct this unprecedented demographic change of the Sinhala Hinterland? By deporting the FORMER Indian Aliens to India? Or by resettling them in the Mono Ethnic Tamil North?

                      I am asking the above questions to UNDERLINE the stupid comment that you made, which I quote below.

                      quote “Correct position is to bring back the over all majority that Tamils had before all these racist programs took place” unquote

                      Note there was no HISTORICAL Tamil Majority except in small pockets of the Kandyan Kingdom (the Eastern Province did not exist).

                      Re “Sinhalese people complained about the presence of large amount of Indian Tamils in the Kandyan areas”

                      As you yourself observes they were Indians and not Lankan’s. They were migrant workers with Indian Citizenship. Just like the Million migrant Sri Lankan workers now in temporary residence in other countries. NON of them will get Citizenship in those countries even if they work for several decades.

                      Surely you have the education to understand that don’t you?

                      Re “…and to please them the government first disenfranchised them and subsequently deported them”

                      That is political Rhetoric.

                      “According to the 1946 census on population in the agricultural sector of the island, 40% of the agricultural peasant families found in the former Kandyan Kingdom were landless while there were 26% landless agricultural families recorded in the wet zone” (Herath 1995: 79).

                      They were made Landless because they were DISPOSSESSED of their Lands.

                      Please show where such a thing has happened ANYWHERE else?

                      There were NO Indian Tamils before and the area was naturally a 100% Sinhala. After colonisation they became a minority in some areas and LOST the POLITICAL power they had earlier, while in other areas it got diluted.

                      Please show where such a thing has happened ANYWHERE else on the same scale?

                      Sri Lankan franchise is for Sri Lankans and not for foreigners. Their ethnicity is irrelevant.

                      Even if they were some other Nationality they would not have a right of franchise. It was not ONLY Indian Tamils who had to go back because they could not qualify for citizenship others had to go back too.

                      The Citizenship Act was tested in the Privy Council, UK, which held that the Act conformed to the Constitution. That constitution had section 29, specifically designed to protect against minority discrimination.

                      There are a Million Indian origin Tamils who now posses Sri Lankan citizenship and 98% of them live in the Kandyan Hinterland.

                      There are over a Million Landless Sinhala peasants who have no means of livelihood or a roof over their heads as they do not have land even to grow their own food.

                      What do you propose to do with them?

                      BTW Did you not subject the Indian Tamils to persecution, oppression and subject them to inhuman and degrading treatment in Jaffna though you try to show you weep for them for political expediency?

                      Sebastian Rasalingam is a Low Cast Jaffna Tamil married to an Indian Tamil woman. He says,

                      “When I moved to Hatton and later to Colombo, I found a very different world. It was a transforming experience for me and my wife to find that our workmates, mostly Sinhalese would actually sit with us and share a cup of tea. We found that we could go to night school and study without being threatened, beaten up, or go and borrow books, and do things that would bring swift retribution ‘back in the North’; our dwellings would have been torched and our women raped with impunity”

                      http://dbsjeyaraj.com/dbsj/archives/12770
                      .
                      Re “Eastern province should be ruled by Tamils and not by either Sinhalese or Muslims by themselves or in conjunction”

                      Finally Dr. Gnana Sankaralingam you have thrown caution to the wind and have become OPENLY RACIST.

                      I wish All Tamils and Sinhalese who celebrated the New Year on the 14th April a Peaceful Year filled with Health, Wealth and Happiness.

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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                    OTC,

                    April 16, 2015 at 1:42 am “Sebastian Rasalingam is a Low Cast Jaffna Tamil married to an Indian Tamil woman. He says,”

                    Tamils including Vellalar elected another Raslingam (is a low cast Jaffna Tamil) as an MP (I think to represent Udupiddy).

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                      “Ethnic Cleansing – The ONLY ethnic cleansing in Lanka took place in the North where Muslims were ethnically cleansed from the North creating a 100% Mono ethnic Tamil Territory…” notes OTC.

                      LTTE sources since then noted, when the occasion rose, the Muslim forced exodus was NOT because they were Muslims but because many of them were acting as spies for the armed services against the then ruling LTTE. This has been admitted by the Muslims themselves. The LTTE killed many Tamils too as suspects. During times of war e.g. Japanese in the USA – it was the international norm to separate them to be placed under a Custodian of Enemy Property. What happened in Jaffna was similar. Many Muslims have since returned – after the cessation of hostilities. One of them is also a TNA MP.

                      Passports became a compulsory document for foreign travel only from about the 1950s. Indian workers in Lankan Estates were all British subjects – as the local citizens were then.

                      Backlash

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                      Dear Backlash,

                      Re “LTTE sources since then noted, when the occasion rose, the Muslim forced exodus was NOT because they were Muslims but because many of them were acting as spies for the armed services against the then ruling LTTE”

                      What are you trying to deny and whitewash?

                      This was a Hate Crime and there is plenty of evidence to prove it. The Muslims were singled out because of their Ethnicity. The “Tamil Speaking” slogan was discarded for the moment. They were even beaten up while at prayer in Mosques. In the East they were massacred while at prayer (147 dead including children).

                      They were not simply removed they were ROBBED of ALL their Movable and immovable property and made Totaly DESTITUTE.

                      They could take only Rs 50/= with them (wiki). Everything else, Savings, Jewelary, Clothing, vehicles (including bicycles), electrical goods, property Deeds were all robbed.

                      At least 72,000 people including infants became peniless and homeless in 2 hours.

                      Quote
                      “……the looters behaved as though people retaining their meagre hard earned possessions were criminals. One woman was made to remove her brassiers and part with jewellery hidden inside. One Tigress started removing the ear studs of a Muslim girl. Losing patience after removing one, she pulled the other, leaving the girl with a torn, bleeding ear. Documents removed from people included their property deeds as well as Janasakthi (Janasaivya) documents. Some female cadre crowed triumphantly that the Muslims were being taught a lesson…” (University Teachers for Human Rights, Jaffna)

                      Some were even abducted and Ransomes demanded.

                      Quote
                      “…. 15 Muslims from Jaffna, 3 from Chavakacheri and 10 from Mannar were detained for ransom payments totalling several tens of million rupees. Amongst Muslims detained were Mubeen, big businessman and former UNP organiser from Jaffna, Sultan from Chavakacheri, Subraan (Jamalthees Nabi), an Islamic leader, (Sinna) Thaheer, tailor and Teliz.

                      Mubeen’s wife once pleaded with the LTTE to show her husband once. She was asked to sell their capital in Colombo and produce Rs.10 million” unquote (UTHRJ)

                      Re “Many Muslims have since returned”

                      A LARGE number of Tamils have returned to the South, purchased immovable property, started businesses and are schooling their children and are leading normal lives.

                      What relevance does it have?

                      Re “Indian workers in Lankan Estates were all British subjects – as the local citizens were then”

                      Are you trying to say that ROBBING the Land from the Indigenous Sinhalese and colonising it with Alien South Indians is JUSTIFIED because the recipients were Tamil?

                      Isn’t that a RACIST argument?

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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                      Dear Anpu,

                      Yours of April 16, 2015 at 3:41 pm refers.

                      The Low Cast people who formed 60% of the Northern population were oppressed and Education denied to them by the High Cast Vellala.

                      Denial of Education is a mechanism by which people are kept ignorant so that they can be easily subjugated and manipulated.

                      The Vellala (a minority in the North) DOMINATED the majority Tamil population and subjected them to INHUMAN OPPRESSIVE SLAVERY by keeping them ignorant.

                      Dr Jane Russel in her PhD thesis on Lankan Communal Politics which is an authoritative text on the final days of Lanka’s colonial politics and early days of Lankan politics, says that excluding Selvadurai, Sri Pathmanathan, and E. R. Thambimuttu, all the other Tamil Political leaders were against enfranchising the Low Cast Panchamars. Those who were against included Mr Ponnambalam Arunachelem, S Natesan etc.

                      The Forum for Depressed Class Tamil Labourers was formed in Jaffna in 1927. It was the first organized effort to defy the prohibitions imposed against the Panchamars by the Vellala.

                      In 1928 this forum launched a campaign for ‘equality in seating and equality in eating’ among school children, in protest against caste discrimination in enforcing different seating and dining arrangements for Panchamar and higher caste children in schools.

                      It took TWO years of agitation to get the Colonial Govt to listen. They then issued and administrative order to allow low cast children to sit on benches along with the high cast children, instead of the floor, in all government aided schools.

                      The Vellala reacted by Burning Down FIFTEEN (15) schools that complied with the govt order and other acts of violence and kept their children from attending school.

                      The Jaffna Students Congress was formed in 1924, three years before the Forum for Depressed Class Tamil Labourers was formed in 1927. Apparently they too ignored the oppression of the Low Cast Panchamar for if they fought for the rights of the Panchamar children, the need to form a separate organisation to fight for Low Cast rights would not have arisen.

                      This indicates that the Jaffna Student Congress was also a High Cast movement!

                      In 1930 the political elite of high castes Vellala petitioned the school authorities to withdraw the order for equal seating but failed (Vegujanan & Ravana 2007).

                      In 1957 the Prevention of Social Disabilities Act (PSDA) was enacted. Protests that were minor when the Language Act was enacted a year before, erupted like a volcano a year later after the PSDA was enacted.

                      It was clear why this happened one year after the Language Act.

                      The Tamil leaders who were ALL Vellala High Casts, incensed by the PSDA, was using the Language Act as a cover, to disrupt govt.

                      The ignorant Low Casts with their base feelings aroused could not think for themselves and were easily mislead by the Cunning Vellalars.

                      Even in the 1970s the ignorant Low Casts kept voting the Vellalars to power not realising that they, the Low Casts Panchamars, held the real political power, as they were the majority in the North.

                      (due to Universal Franchise that the High Cast Vellala fought tooth and nail to prevent).

                      In late 1960s ALL 11 MP’s of the North were Vellala High Casts. And ALL 14 DRO’s (the highest ranking Govt officers next to the GA) were also Vellala. Thus the North was CONTROLLED Politically and Administratively by the Vellala. Yet the PSDA remained a Dead Letter in the North even after 14 years after it became Law.

                      I am glad to note it is changing now, though ever so slowly. It is due to Free Education that the Sri Lanka govt made available to the oppressed Low Cast Panchamar, despite strong retaliatory action from the Vellala High Casts.

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

                      PS. Your statement made on April 16, 2015 at 4:06 pm viz “CLAIM for N&E by Tamils is based on FACTS” is not true. In support of that statement you produced an article written by Mr JL Devananda and I have pointed out some of the fallacies in his argument and I hope you will be able to respond to them.

                      Hence, as I said before, your claim to the East on the mainland is FRAUDULENT and is the cause of the present Ethnic crisis with the Tamils.

                      OTC

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                  Dr. Gnana Sankaralingam

                  “Other Tamils like Mukkuwas, Sinhalese and Muslims settled in eastern province later.”

                  Mukkuwas’ origin has been traced to Kerala. Mukkuwa laws is largely based on Marumakattyam Law of Kerala. (See HW Thambiah- The Laws and Customs of Tamils of Jaffna)

                  By the way Kandyan kingdom was not fully formed until 1470. Kingdoms existed relatively for short periods of time and its borders changed too often. Kingdom does not mean people or nation, whims and fancies of ruling dynasties expanded their kingdoms.

                  Please ignore what the noted plagiarist and liar writes.

                  Racist is as racist does.

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                  Dr Gnana,

                  “Again this is a racist propaganda by the Sinhalese. Srilanka does not belong to Sinhalese or Tamils. Both migrated from India, mainly from the south and few inputs from north and east India, as proved by the genetic studies done by the Colombo medical faculty.”

                  Sri Lanka is the country that gave birth to the Sinhalese civilization. The original hela tribes evolved into Sinhalese race with an input from north /south indians. Where as Tamil migrated from Tamil Nadu and live as Tamils. Of course Tamils have lived for many centuries in Sri Lanka as well.

                  “Just because eastern province south of Mahaveli ganga was under the Kandyan Kingdom does not mean that the land belongs to the Sinhalese. Srilanka was under the British Kingdom, does that mean that British could claim that it belongs to them”

                  The eastern province has never ever been part of a Tamil kingdom. The Tamils have never ever ruled eastern province. It has always been part of the Sinhalese territory. While it was part of the Kandyan kingdom when British captured, it was part of the Ruhunu
                  rata when Sri Lanka had Ruhun, Maya and Pihity ratas. Tamil presence In the east, has always been restricted to a narrow strip of 10 miles from the coast. This area also has never been exclusively Tamil.The Muslims make up a majority in many areas along the coast.
                  When the British captured Sri Lanka they captured land that was ruled by the sinhalese for many many centuries. There in lies the DIFFERENCE Dr.

                  “Sinhala people after independence embarked on a program of Sinhalisation of Srilanka by settling Sinhalese in large amounts in the eastern province and later in non peninsular part of northern province.”

                  Sinhala people were not taken and settled in a foreign country. They were settled in areas which had got neglected and overgrown with jungle due to years of foreign rule. You Tamils accusing us of colonisation is like the white in South Africa complaining about the changes that are happening in that country now.

                  “The deportation of one million Indian Tamils and forced exodus of Ceylon Tamils due to war are part and parcel of the program”
                  Just imagine if these Tamils have not been sent back, even part of the central province would have been part of your imaginary homeland.
                  By the way your leadership backed the moved to disenfranchise the Indian Tamils.
                  Interestingly you talk of exchanging territory with your imaginary homeland.
                  60% of Trincomalee distric are sinhala majority areas. This includes the AGA divisions of Kantale,Padavis Siripura,Gomarankadawala,seruvilla,Moraweva. All these AGA division are on the western Flank of Trincomalee district. While on the Eastern flank (near the coast) , the area right down to the Town is Muslim majority. Kinniya is another Muslim majority AGA division. The Tamils are a majority only in the Trinco town and in Verugal.
                  In this scenario you expect the sinhala and Muslim people to let all other areas except Gomarankadwela to be governed by a tamil council.Vihilu neda ? Similarly you talk of the Puttlam electorate to be merged to the North. Muslims will never ever live in a Tamil majority council. If they have to pick between sinhalese and Tamils they are likely to pick the sinhalese.

                  You like all tamils are playing the race card when you can not reason out. You are yet another selfish person.

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                    Ravi Perera the Sinhala speaking Demela

                    Good to hear from you. Thanks for dropping by.

                    What have you in your store today? More of the same I suppose.

                    இனிய தமிழ் புத்தாண்டு நல்வாழ்த்துக்கள்

                    Happy Tamil New Year to you!

                    Suba Demela Aluth Awuruddak Wewa Oba Sameta!!!

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                    Ravi Perera

                    “The eastern province has never ever been part of a Tamil kingdom.”

                    You are lying according to –
                    (1)
                    “By the late 16th century, Jaffna had given minimal logistical access to its Trincomalee and Batticaloa seaports to Kandy to secure military advantages against its enemies; this was utilized by their influential European overlords to consolidate power in the region.”

                    The Beautiful Port City of Trincomalee
                    By Lakshman Indranath Keerthisinghe – Attorney-at-Law

                    http://www.thesundayleader.lk/2011/12/18/the-beautiful-port-city-of-trincomalee/

                    (2)Read these articles by Prof Manogaran
                    http://tamilnation.co/forum/manogaran/000601settlements.htm
                    http://tamilnation.co/forum/manogaran/970629space.htm

                    (3) read the comments on
                    https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/what-velupillai-chelvanayakam-envisaged-velupillai-prabakaran/

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                    Ravi Perera is so obstinate he will never except the historical reality of a dominant Tamil presence in the current Eastern Province in the centuries gone by. It is the fear of Sinhala supremacism unless they continue to argue that the EP was Sinhala land very soon Trincomalee, the Jewel in the Crown of the Sinhala dream, will be lost (again ?) to the Tamils. Therefore, the State uses the willing brutality of the highly prejudiced Sinhala soldiers to deface Trincomalee to remove all traces of Tamil presence from there. Even poor Mahathma Gandhi is not spared in this madness, resulting in the Indian High Commission making a formal complaint.

                    The battle, somewhat subtle and subdued so far, began years ago to remove all signs of a Tamil presence in the town. Similar to the exercise to Sinhalise Kadirgamam. Readers will remember prior to the 1950s, the sacred area was pre-dominantly Tamil in all its features. Today, there is hardly a Tamil presence worth mentioning. In less than a century from now, all traces of Tamil influence will be removed from the Kadirgamam area.
                    That is what happened in Anuradhapura and Polonnaruwa too in earlier centuries.

                    Backlash

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                      Dear Backlash,

                      Re yours of April 18, 2015 at 12:24 pm

                      “Ravi Perera is so obstinate he will never except the historical reality of a dominant Tamil presence in the current Eastern Province in the centuries gone by”

                      quote from Sujit Sivasundaram’s book “Islanded: Britain, Sri Lanka, and the Bounds of an Indian Ocean Colony”

                      The Kandyans had control over five ports at the time that the Dutch succeeded the Portuguese on the coastal belt in the seventeenth century: these were Kalpitiya and Puttalam on the west coast and Trincomalee, Kottiyar, and Batticaloa on the east coast (fig. 2.11.6 Each of these ports was linked to a particular segment of the Kandyan kingdom.
                      unquote

                      Quote from Robert Knox

                      These ly to the Westward that follow, Oudipollat, Dolusbaug, Hotteracourly, containing four Counties; Portaloon, Tuncourly, containing three Counties; Cuttiar. Which last, together with Batticalaw, and a part of Tuncourly, the Hollander took from the King during my being there. There are about ten or twelve more un-named, next bordering on the Coasts, which are under the Hollander. All these Provinces and Counties, excepting six, Tammanquod, Vellas, Paunoa, Hotteracourly, Hotcourly, and Neurecalava, ly upon Hills fruitful and dwell watered: and therefore they are called in one word Conde Uda, which signifies, On top of the Hills, and the King is styled, the King of Conde Uda.

                      Each County divided by Woods. All these Counties are divided each from other by great Woods. Which none may fell, being preserved for Fortifications. In most of them there are Watches kept constantly, but in troublesome times in all.

                      Unquote

                      It is not a question of obstinacy. It is the inability of those who claim a dominant Tamil presence within the British administrative boundary DURING PORTUGUESE, DUTCH OR KANDYAN RULE to prove it.

                      You cannot prove it because it never was.

                      This territory was under the Sinhala Kandyan Kingdom. Each Town was separated by Thick Woods which no one could cut. Hence the woods were uninhabited.

                      There were Tamils, Muslim and Chettis on the coast. (Muslims were traders)

                      We know that the Kandyan king, the Portuguese, the Dutch and the British employed Indian Mercenaries in their armies and that the Portuguese, Dutch and the British imported South Indian Labour to work in the Maritime areas under their control and the British brought in Madrasi officials to administer the areas under them.

                      It is possible for the Tamils, Muslims and Chettis to have a dominant presence in their own villages but that would be MINUTE in comparison to 2,470,065 Acres, which is the Territory within the LARGER Kandyan Kingdom (if the British administrative boundary is superimposed within the Kingdom).

                      The forests were King’s property (see Knox). It was uninhabited. Hence you have no claim on it by Habitation and no claim on it by ownership.

                      As Knox says there were a multitude of inhabited Towns separated by Jungle. These internal Towns were inhabited by Sinhalese and the Sinhalese have a claim on the forests by ownership (it was their kingdom just as much as the Jaffna kingdom was owned by Tamils)

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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                    Dear Ravi Perera,

                    Dr. Gnana Sankaralingam has disappeared since April 15. Perhaps he has exhausted his racist rhetoric.

                    Facts are difficult to counter.

                    A civil presentation of facts will go a long way in opening the eyes of the Foreigner and the Thinking Tamils who are being mislead by Racial Rhetoric.

                    Vituperative attacks by the Separatist, Racist opposition will only contribute towards exposing the attacker’s own inadequacies. Don’t be shaken by them.

                    Respond with civility and sarcasm and don’t be shy to admit and apologize when you are wrong.

                    Kind Regards,
                    OTC

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                OTC,

                “Hence your claim to the East on the mainland is FRAUDULENT and is the cause of the present Ethnic crisis with the Tamils. “

                CLAIM for N&E by Tamils is based on FACTS.

                A Reply: ‘Archaeology sparks new conflict between Sri Lankan Tamils and Sinhalese’ By J.L. Devananda

                http://www.srilankaguardian.org/2010/05/reply-archaeology-sparks-new-conflict.html

                (May 03, Colombo, Sri Lanka Guardian) Recently while browsing the archives of Sri Lanka Guardian I accidently came across a reply to Jeremy Page’s article “Archaeology sparks new conflict between Sri Lankan Tamils and Sinhalese” which appeared on Time Online, London on April 6, 2010, by one of the so called history scholar Mahinda Gunasekera dated April 19, 2010. I thought it is my duty to address the Pseudo-Historians and Bogus-Scholars like Mahinda Gunasekera who is trying to twist, turn, manipulate and misinterpret the Sri Lankan history.

                The infamous Cleghorn’s minute and the Tamil Homeland

                Mahinda Gunasekera begins with the Tamil claims to a traditional homeland and goes on to say that the Tamil separatists adopted the 1799 minute of the British colonial administrator named Hugh Cleghorn as the basis for their false claims. By extracting a few paragraphs from the British colonial officer Hugh Cleghorn’s minute which wrongly says the Sinhalese were descendants of the Siamese people and how it incorrectly refers to the inhabitants of Jaffna, Mahinda Gunasekera is clearly showing us how erroneous Hugh Cleghorn minute was, a job well done.

                The first question that came into my mind was from where Mahinda Gunasekara found the connection between the Tamil separatists claim or rather the ‘Vadukkodai Resolution of 1976’ and the infamous Hugh Cleghorn’s minute of 1799?

                It is not just the British officer Hugh Cleghorn who wrote about Sri Lanka and its people but there were many colonial officers, writers and historians among Portuguese, Dutch and British who have written about Sri Lanka and its people. A few examples were the Portuguese priest Fernao de Queyroz, the Portuguese historian Joao Ribeiro, the Dutch Predikant Philippus Baldaeus, Governor Rjklof Van Goens account dated 1675 referring to Eastern province (inhabitants of Batticalo), Jacob Burnand a Swiss soldier in the service of the Dutch, the English, Chief Justice in the British Government Sir Alexander Johnston, governor Sir Andrew Caldicott, and of course the prisoner of the kandyan kingdom Robert Knox are just a few.

                We must be able to differentiate between what these Colonial gentlemen actually saw and experienced physically and what they personally believed and assumed due to their limited knowledge about the region and its people.

                When the Europeans (Portuguese, Dutch and British) arrived, what all of them clearly observed and experienced during their period was that, there were two different Nations (Sinhalese and Tamils) having two different languages, religions, cultures, and living in two well defined and clearly and naturally demarcated (thick jungles, lakes, river, etc) land areas with their own kingdoms within their traditional lands. The Tamils lived as a majority within their separate land area (North & East) and the Sinhalese also lived as a majority within their land area (South & West). The British, on seeing the naturally existing borders of the two ethnic groups used their technology to demarcate them as two separate regions (occupied by two separate races) and created the maps for the first time somewhere in the 1800s. Unfortunately, the same British later united the two regions into a unitary state and gave it to one ethnic group (Sinhalese) by creating a single majority and making a total mess in the region.

                Now, let us see the assumptions these Colonial gentlemen made due to their lack of knowledge of the region and the people of Sri Lanka.

                In the year 1498, Vasco De Gama’s landing in Malabar (Kerela) marked the beginning of the era of foreign Intervention in the region. The Dutch preceded the Portuguese, and then the British East INDIA Company had been on the Malabar Coast since 1684. It was from Malabar that the Portuguese came to Sri Lanka. They found two different ethnic groups living in Sri Lanka in two different land areas, the one living closer to the Malabar/Coramandal coast had a similar language, religion and culture to the Malabars. Without any hesitation, they called them Malabars even though there was a Tamil King and the people spoke Tamil when they arrived. The Dutch who preceded them continued to call them Malabars and the British also called them Malabars but later when they realized that it was a mistaken identity, that they were not Malabars but Tamils, they corrected it. Similarly, due to Buddhism and the Buddhist culture, they also called the Sinhalese as the descendants of the Siamese people.

                In fact it was the Europeans who first misinterpreted the Mahavamsa and believed that the Sinhalese were Aryans and labeled the early Prakrit language as Sinhala. Today, due to the latest scientific discoveries in the fields of archaeological, epigraphical and anthropological research, the modern historians such as Prof. Leslie Gunawardane, (professor in history and a former Vice Chancellor of University of Peradeniya) and many other qualified historians do not accept that the Sinhala language or the Sinhala race existed during the early historic period.

                There is enough archeological evidence to prove that the Tamils have also lived outside the North & East (even in down South) but there is NO evidence what so ever to prove that the Sinhalese lived in the North & East. The census of Ceylon conducted in 1881 also indicates that the two Tamil provinces were inhabited almost exclusively by Tamils in the late nineteenth century (Census of Ceylon, 1881). The Sinhalese population constituted only 1.8% of the total population of the two Tamil provinces in 1881; Sinhalese accounted for only 0.51% of the total population of the Northern Province, and 4.2% of the Eastern Province.

                Let me also mention that in the recorded history of Sri Lanka and the epigraphic evidence found till today, nowhere it mentioned that there was a mass influx/settlement of Tamils from South India to the North & East of Sri Lanka or there was a mass exodus of Sinhalese from the North and East to the South. In other words, that all the Sinhalese living in the North & East simply pack their bags and went to the South leaving all their lands to the newly arrived Tamils without any protest? Most of the Sinhalese have their ancestral native place name also as a part of their name, known as Vasagama. Is there any Sinhalese person from any part of Sri Lanka who can come out and say that his Vasagama is a name from any part of North or East? Even those Sinhalese who are living in the North and East today were colonized after 1948 by DS Senanayake. The so called Sinhala history scholars will never fail to say that the East was under the Kandyan Kingdom. It is true that some parts of the Eastern province came under the Kandyan Kingdom from time to time but it makes no difference to the Tamil position in regard to the inhabitancy of the Eastern province. The Tamils would have had and yet have no objection what so ever to the benevolent and accommodating rule of the kandyan kings whether they were Kalinga or Nayakkar, and see no inconsistency in the Tamil claim to the Eastern province even under the Kandyan rule. On the other hand, I have never come across a Sinhala person or family that claimed an Eastern province habitancy or origin. If you speak to the Sinhalese living in the Eastern province, each one of them will say that their grandfather or great grandfather is from the South where as there are any number of Tamils who hail from the East and proudly proclaim their habitancy.

                Archaeological Remains and Historical Evidence

                Until the Bhrami script was introduced to South India Sri Lanka Region (SISL), no writings or inscriptions was found available and therefore we do not know much about the history of the very ancient people of Sri Lanka (beyond 3rd century BC). Long before the Pali chronicles were written, the ancient 2nd century BC Bhrami stone inscriptions found in Sri Lanka mentions the word Dameda (Damela). The earliest inscriptions and also the early Pali chronicles attest to the presence of the Tamils (Demedas/Damilas) in the Early Historic Period. In fact, Dameda (Damela) is the most mentioned ethnic group in the epigraphy of Ceylon, with mention in five cave inscriptions. These inscriptions refer to the Tamil Vishaka (merchant), the Tamil householder Samana (residing) and a Tamil navika (or sailor). These inscriptions are further corroborated by a reference in the Mahavamsa which contains the expression “Damila Assandviks” i.e. those (Tamils) who brought horses in water-craft, horse merchants. For example, the Mahavamsa says the Damila rulers Sena & Guttika were sons of a horse merchant. Both Dipavamsa and Mahavamsa neither says Sena & Guttika were invaders (came from outside) nor from South India. They were Damilas and natives of Sri Lanka, sons of a horse merchant. There were Nagas and Damelas (Cholas, Pandyans and Chera) in South India and Sri Lanka (SISL region) even before 2nd century BC as per Samgam literature but unfortunately there is no written inscriptions till 2nd century BC. During the ancient period the Nagas and Damelas (Tamils) living in both South India and Sri Lanka (Nagapuram, Nagarkovil, Nargapattinum, Nagadivpa, etc) were considered as the natives, the ancient inhabitants of the region. During the Early Historical Period, South India and Sri Lanka were not considered as two different countries. The Nagas and Damelas not only occupied both South India and Sri Lanka but they were also moving back and forth between Sri Lanka and South India and also they had a shared interest in Buddhism. According to Prof. Deraniyagala, the excavations in both Sri Lanka and South India revels that, not only the Flora and Fauna but many other manmade structures, burials, Brami inscriptions, etc were all identical and he says, there were frequent people movement during the ancient period.

                According to the Mahavamsa, the Naga King Dutugemunu had to conquer not just one Tamil king (Elara) but 32 Tamil Chieftains around the Anuradhapura principality alone. He also killed around sixty thousand Tamils in the war. How could there be 32 Tamil chieftains in the area of Anuradhapura alone, if there were no Tamils or Tamil settlements? Similarly, King Valgambha had to fight seven Pandian chieftains to reassume sovereignty at Anuradhapura. If you read the book written by Robert Knox, when he escaped from prison, he had to go through several places and when he came to AnuradaPura, he says it was fully occupied by Tamils (NOT Sinhalese). That means even recently, during the 17th CAD (colonial period) Anuradapura was inhabited by Tamils. Many Tamil place names in Anuradapura even today revels the above fact.

                On the other hand, not a single stone inscription, cave writings, structures, or anything else (artifacts) found in Sri Lanka during the ancient period says anything about Hela/Sihala/Sinhala. There was NO such race/tribe/nation called Sinhala/Hela during that Early Historic Period. When Buddhism was under attack in the Tamil country, in order to protect Buddhism in Sri Lanka, the Mahavihara monks assimilated all the Buddhists of Sri Lanka belonging to several different tribes (Naga, Damila, etc) into one group and called them Sihala. The word Sinhala/Hela first appeared in the Pali chronicles only in the 4th century AD and that also ONLY twice in the beginning chapters of the entire Deepavamsa/Mahavamsa. The first few chapters of the Pali chronicles are nothing but fiction created by its author. Prince Vijay, Sinhabahu, Kuweni and the Lion story was a creation of the Mahavamsa author, there is no evidence for their existence. The events that took place in India against Buddhism during that period prompted the Mahavihara monks in Sri Lanka to come up with a plan/strategy to protect Buddhism. Due to their strong devotion to Buddhism and desire to consolidate and protect this religion in Sri Lanka they decided to write the Pali chronicles Deepavamsa/Mahavamsa making Sri Lanka a Dammadeepa (chosen land of Buddha where Buddhism will prevail for 5000 years) and creating the Sinhala race by assimilating all the Buddhists from different tribes/ethnic groups into one race and making them the sustainers of Buddhism (Gouthama Buddha’s chosen people) to protect Buddhism in Sri Lanka for 5000 years until the next Maithriya Buddha arrive. It is the mahavihara monks who assimilated all the Buddhists from many different tribes together and called them Sihala (followers of Mythical Vijaya). There is NO historical evidence what so ever to prove Vijaya’s arrival with 700 men or to say there were Sinhalese during the Early Historic period. To date, no archaeological evidence has been found to prove ‘Sihala’ existed or anything about Vijaya’s arrival. The terms ‘Sinhale’, ‘Hela’, ‘Sinhaladvipa, etc appeared very much later. Not a single stone inscription, cave writings or any other artifacts found during the ancient period say anything about Sihala. Not a single ancient king of Anuradapura/Polonnaruwa kingdom claimed that he is a Sinhala or Arya. None of the ancient Sri Lankan Kings or their kingdom was known as Sinhala. The Naga kings Devanampiya Tissa and Dutugemunu were NEVER known as Sinhala (there is no evidence what so ever) and due to ignorance the present day Sinhalese are talking about a non-existent ancient Sinhala heritage. The ancient Buddhist heritage built by the Naga/Damila belongs to both Tamils and Sinhalese. The ancient Buddhist remains in the North East are the remnants left by the Tamil Buddhists and not anybody else. They are part of the Tamil heritage that has to be protected and preserved by the Tamils. The Tamil Buddhists have even contributed to the Buddhist scriptures Tripitika. The Tamils are also one of the main contributors for the formation of the Sinhala race. According to Prof. Sudharshan Seneviratne, there is no mention of the word Sinhala or Sinhala ethnicity in the thousand odd short inscriptions that come to us from this period. On the contrary, a vast majority of the host of clan names and titles that we come across in these inscriptions only show affinities with the clans of the ancient Tamil country.

                The early foreign traders from Arabia, Persia, Rome, China and so on called Sri Lanka by many different names but NONE of them mentioned about a Sinhala or Tamil Kingdom because the Northern Kingdom of Anuradapura/Polonnaruwa were ruled alternatively by either a Naga King or a Damila King or by others. Only from around 10th to 13th CAD, the Buddhists (Sinhalese) moved from the Northern Anuradapura/Polonnwara kingdom to the South (Kotte/Kandy and many other kingdoms) while the Hindus (Tamils) moved from Anuradapura/Polonnwara kingdom to the North East (Jaffna Kingdom and Vanni Chiefdoms). The Tamil Kingdom in the North (Jaffna kingdom) and the Sinhala Kingdoms in the South (Kotte, Kandy, etc) came into existence only after 13th CAD (after Anuradapura/Polonnwara kingdoms). Even the Sinhala biased archeologist/researcher Dr. Senarat Paranavithana says, the vast majority of the people who today speak Sinhalese or Tamil must be ultimately be descended from those autochthonous people of whom we know next to nothing.

                It is arrogance if the Sinhalese tell the Tamils of North East who have roots in Sri Lanka from the ancient Anuradhapura/Polonuwara period that they have no homeland in Sri Lanka and go back to Tamil Nadu if you cannot accept Sinhala-Buddhist language, religion and culture as the significant culture of Sri Lanka including the Tamil NorthEast.

                Pseudo-Historians and Bogus Scholars (charlatans)

                In any historical research, it is natural to change the views and assumptions, because up to now, we have no definite answers to so many unanswered questions in the fields of Archeology, history, anthropology, epigraphy and etymology in Sri Lanka. Furthermore, daily we stumble across several new findings and they contribute to new historical vistas. Therefore, based on new facts, one’s earlier conclusion has to be compromised to adopt changes. History is a continuous process of investigation without any end in sight. For example, for the last 40 years, the Sinhala Buddhist Chauvinists, the Pseudo-historians and bogus scholars (charlatans) have built up a very strong love and affection towards the Tamil PhD student Karthigesu Indrapala due to his 1965 PhD thesis which was not in favor of the Tamils. When the well renowned and recognized former History professor of the Jaffna University, the same Prof. Karthigesu Indrapala retired from his profession after 30 years of research as a Senior Archeologist/Historian/epigraphist and a University Don, he settled down in Australia. All those who kept on using the PhD student Karthigesu Indrapala’s 1965 PhD thesis as a guide in all their writings must have had a heart attack when they read the book what Prof. K. Indrapala published in 2005, 40 years after his 1965 PhD thesis where he says his PhD dissertation is completely out of date that even he does not have a copy of his 1965 PhD thesis what he wrote 40 years ago as a PhD student. Therefore, it is absolutely natural that people change their opinions upon new findings.

                Secondly, history is a social science and not science like Physics or Mathematics where logic can be used to arrive at conclusions. Logic is not a reliable tool for finding the truth. Logical assumptions based on unobserved facts leads to falsehood and that is what a few pseudo-historians like Mahinda Gunasekera are trying to do. Let me give an example, If you see the Sri Lankan parliament Hansard in 200 years time from now you will find the Governor of Jaffna during the early nineteen nineties was a Sinhalese (Mr. Tyrone Fernando), the Government agent of Jaffna during the same period was a Sinhalese (Mr. Lionel Fernando) and the army/Navy commanders of Jaffna were also Sinhalese. If the Pseudo-historians or bogus-Scholars like Mahinda Gunasekera use logical assumptions to analyze the history of Jaffna after 200 years from now, they will come to the conclusion and will conveniently argue that the population of Jaffna 200 years ago was Sinhalese. This is why we should never trust the history written by some Pseudo-historians based on unobserved facts/logical assumptions and NOT on archeological evidence.

                My advice to pseudo-historians and bogus scholars (charlatans) like Mahinda Gunasekera who is trying to twist, turn manipulate and misinterpret the Sri Lankan history. As Prof. Sudharshan Seneviratne says in his article ‘Educating Jeremy Page’, in his most valued book (The Evolution of an Ethnic Identity. 2005) Professor K. Indrapala inscribed the following moving dedication “To the innocents who lost their lives as a direct consequence of misinterpretation of history” which is a must read line by all blood-thirsty social fascists in any community. Please do not distort or abuse the Sri Lankan history but leave it to the real historians like Prof. Sudharshan Seneviratne to deal with people like Jeremy Page.”

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                  Dear Anpu

                  Tku for the painstaking effort to establish your case, supported by historical evidence. Many independent students from both side of the divide in these pages will learn and benefit by this research. But, needless to say, you are not going to win over the congenital deniers. They will deny for the sake of denying.

                  The simple question which the deniers shy away from is this. If there was, in the earlier centuries, that border the Kandyan kingdom with those parts of the EP, how come Sinhalese is scarcely spoken there. The lingua franca was essentially Tamil.
                  Even the wandering and ubiquitous Gypsies in the District spoke in Tamil and Tamil dialects. Their verses, songs and stories had a preponderency of the Tamil language.

                  Backlash

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                    Backlash,

                    Thanks.
                    (1) What do we get from this picture
                    From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trincomalee – map drawn in 1688 https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b0/RobMordenmapTamilcountryVanni.jpg

                    (2) What the Pictures and tables tells us from Prof Manogaran’s articles and books http://tamilnation.co/forum/manogaran/

                    “Picture worth thousands of words”

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                      Dear Anpu,

                      Although you are an ardent separatists I always believed that you were honest. I had reason to do that and it had something to do with a comment I made on GroundViews that you supported long ago (if I remember correctly it was about the MSF nurse, Anna Marie Loose, an eye witness to LTTE brutality, against Tamil Civilians held captive in a Human Shield).

                      This is why I always treat you with respect though I disagree with your views. However I do not respect those who Lie and make it a point to expose them whenever I can (a mistake is excused when it is admitted).
                      .
                      https://books.google.lk/books?id=7X1OAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA448&lpg=PA448&dq=%22of+the+isles+in+the+indian+sea%22&source=bl&ots=wZyXGdKNDW&sig=X2htQXvVly430EyNp2HOBw5dHmI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=t5gyVd_hIMeXuASWqIHACw&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=%22of%20the%20isles%20in%20the%20indian%20sea%22&f=true
                      .
                      Please visit the above link, you will be taken to page 448 of Rob Mordon’s book, “Geography Rectified: Or, A Description Of The World, In all its Kingdoms …” Now scroll down to page 450 where the original Map drawn by the Author is located. You will see that it is a Black and White map. He does not use ANY COLOUR in it.

                      The Black and White Map shows the Territory under the Dutch as stated in the text.

                      Quote “The Holander is now master of all the sea coast; the inland country is under the king of Candy, and is divided into several Parts or Provinces, which lie upon Hills fruitful and well watered and are called in general Conde Uda.” unquote (page 450 at the bottom)

                      The DOCTORED coloured map that a Tamil Separatist has uploaded to Wiki is a FRAUD. It is not the Tamil Country as stated by Separatist Tamil Scoundrel who uploaded it. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b0/RobMordenmapTamilcountryVanni.jpg)
                      .
                      In fact within this 700 page book, only 4 pages discuss Ceylon and Jaffna is not even mentioned in it.

                      This shows how the Tamil Separatists have CORRUPTED THE WIKI AND HAS MADE IT COMPLETELY UNRELIABLE AS A SOURCE OF INFORMATION ON LANKA. The gullible wiki surfer will think that this is true, though it’s TOTALLY false.

                      History is being prostituted because the Tamil Separatists do not have a written history of their presence in Lanka written by Tamil Historians.

                      Robert Knox sought safety in the Dutch fort of Aripo (Knox says Arrepa). You can see it on Mordon’s map west of Anuradhapura to the North of the Dutch line of control on the coast.

                      quote “Whereupon we asked him, to whom he belonged. He speaking the Chingulay Language answered, To the Dutch; and also that all the Country was under their Command, and that we were out of all danger, and that the Fort of Arrepa was but some six miles off.” unquote (from Robert Knox’s book)

                      quote from Sujit Sivasundaram’s book “Islanded: Britain, Sri Lanka, and the Bounds of an Indian Ocean Colony”

                      The Kandyans had control over five ports at the time that the Dutch succeeded the Portuguese on the coastal belt in the seventeenth century: these were Kalpitiya and Puttalam on the west coast and Trincomalee, Kottiyar, and Batticaloa on the east coast (fig. 2.11.6 Each of these ports was linked to a particular segment of the Kandyan kingdom.
                      unquote

                      That Tamil Separatist who uploaded this DOCTORED fraudulent Map, did not realise by trying to falsify history and doctoring documents the Eelam claim South of the tip of Karativu has been lost. The Kandyan Kingdom is shown to extend from just below Aripo to Negambo along the West coast.

                      On the East the whole of the Gal Oya Valley is within the Kandyan kingdom and extends to the East coast through Levaya (saltern?)

                      I believe that you were DUPED as this was in the Wiki.

                      In future please try to verify your sources before posting them.

                      Re “Picture worth thousands of words”

                      Pictures are worthless when Doctored!

                      This is the Photoshop Era where even on this web page you can sometimes see humans with three eyes!!!

                      BTW why have you avoided what I wrote about JL Devanada’s article you posted?

                      Kind Regards,
                      OTC

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                      OTC,

                      “Although you are an ardent separatists ” I do not belong to any group and I do not believe in FORCED marriage. If the marriage is not working DIVORCE is the best option.

                      I also believe Buddhism is a great religion. But not SINHALESE Buddhism.

                      Thank you for the link. I have not read it yet.

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                  Dear Anpu and Backlash,

                  As I have said before J.L. Devananda is a good writer but he is not here to answer the points I will raise. Kindly use your good offices and ask him to write to CT or try to answer them yourself.

                  JLD says, Governor Rjklof Van Goens account dated 1675 referring to Eastern province (inhabitants of Batticalo),

                  The British boundaries of the Eastern Province did not exist in 1675. JLD is confused or trying to deceive.

                  This is a common problem with the Homeland proponents who try to use non existing British boundaries while talking about a Tamil Kingdoam that became extinct in 1624. They STUDIOUSLY avoid the ACTUAL boundaries of Cankili II’s Tamil Kingdom.

                  JLD says, …. that they were not Malabars but Tamils, they corrected it. Similarly, due to Buddhism and the Buddhist culture, they also called the Sinhalese as the descendants of the Siamese people. In fact it was the Europeans who first misinterpreted the Mahavamsa and believed that the Sinhalese were Aryans and labeled the early Prakrit language as Sinhala. Today, due to the latest scientific discoveries in the fields of archaeological, epigraphical and anthropological research, the modern historians such as Prof. Leslie Gunawardane, (professor in history and a former Vice Chancellor of University of Peradeniya) and many other qualified historians do not accept that the Sinhala language or the Sinhala race existed during the early historic period.

                  JLD is unaware of latest Genetic studies and is harping on interpretations of the Mahavamsa etc.

                  Science contradicts his theory.

                  GENETICALLY the Indian Origin Tamils of Lanka who we know are from South India are DISTINCT and have no GENETIC connection to the Lanka Tamils of the North.

                  That means the Lanka Tamils are not from South India. That flies in the face of JLD’s Malabar theory.

                  The following are scientifically established.

                  1. Indian Tamils of Lanka, Lanka Tamils and the Sinhalese have genetic connections to those from the Indian Subcontinent.

                  2. Indian Tamils of Lanka do not have a Genetic connection to Lanka Tamils.

                  3. Neither the Lanka Tamils nor the Indian Origin Tamils have any direct genetic connection with the Veddha.

                  4. The Sinhalese have a direct genetic connection with the Veddha.

                  Quote
                  “Interestingly, highest number of haplotype sharing was found between Vedda with Up-country Sinhalese and with Low-country Sinhalese. On the other hand, there was no haplotype sharing between the Vedda people with any of the Tamils”
                  Unquote (from “Mitochondrial DNA history of Sri Lankan ethnic people: their relations within the island and with the Indian subcontinental populations”)

                  There is an older study done in 1995, twenty years ago, by Dr Kshatriya. It’s available in the wiki.

                  Dr Kshatriya says

                  The Bengalis, the Tamils, and the Veddahs are considered parental populations for the Sinhalese. The Bengali contribution is 25.41%, the Tamil (India) contribution is 69.86%, and the Veddah contribution is only 4.73%. Thus the Sinhalese have a predominantly Tamil (India) contribution followed by the Bengalis and the Veddahs.

                  By studying the Sri Lankan Tamils, one can see that the Sinhalese, the Bengalis, and the Indian Tamils can be considered ancestral populations. The contribution of the Sinhalese to the Sri Lankan Tamils is 55.20%. Similarly, the Bengali contribution is 28.17% and that of the Indian Tamils is 16.63%. The results indicate a predominant influence of the Sinhalese (who already have a high contribution from the Indian Tamils) and the Bengalis to a lesser extent.
                  End quote

                  Thus the Lanka Tamils may well be descendants of the Sinhalese who over time has adopted the Tamil Language due to the close contact with South Indian Tamils.

                  JLD says ….do not accept that the Sinhala language or the Sinhala race existed during the early historic period. He has failed to identify the significance of his own statement.

                  He has failed to realize that his statement has much deeper ramifications than the superficial conclusion that he has come to.

                  Who evolved into the Sinhalese because there are no Sinhalese anywhere else in the world?

                  Thus there was a predecessor to the Sinhalese, a PARENT population who were either INDIGENES of Lanka or Immigrants to Lanka. Thier history in Lanka might date back to the Balangoda man 38,000 BP to 30,000 BP.

                  Religious edifices does not prove which ethnic group is historically more ancient in Lanka than the other. The fallacy in that argument is the assumption that the Sinhalese were Buddhists from the inception, which of course is untrue.

                  The early parents of the Sinhalese had brought their own religions from the Indian subcontinent and those religions existed in Lanka from prehistory.

                  The population became overwhelmingly Buddhist after it arrived at a much later date during the reign of Emperor Asoka of India and received State patronage.

                  JLD says “…and living in two well defined and clearly and naturally demarcated (thick jungles, lakes, river, etc) land areas with their own kingdoms within their traditional lands.”

                  The reference is to Portuguese times this is in 1505 (his statement …When the Europeans (Portuguese, Dutch and British) arrived,…).

                  Lanka when the British arrived had 85% Forrest cover during the 1500s it would have been much more.

                  In 1801 during British times the Tamil population of Lanka would have been around 150,000 the rest of the population would be around 1,034,500 (working back from known data and natural growth rates)

                  In the 1500s this would have been less.

                  How much Land could the small Tamil population defended and populated against an opposing population nearly 7 times its size? We know there was a history of conflict.

                  Who controlled the UNPOPULATED AREAS?

                  That population could not have defended and populated even the present Northern Province of 2,195,284 Acres !!!

                  JLD was also ignorant of Dutch records.

                  quote “During the 17th century the Company was engaged in a war of attrition with the king of Kandy”….unquote

                  Dutch ruled the former Jaffna Kingdom in the 17th century.

                  They were at war with the Sinhala Kingdom of Kandy.

                  quote “There was a narrow tongue of land at Elephant Pass a fort was built to guard the border with the king’s territory” unquote

                  They built a fort at Elephant Pass.
                  It guarded the BORDER of the Jaffna Kingdom from the Sinhala Armies. That BORDER was WITH the Kandyan King’s Territory.

                  Thus on one side of the BORDER was the Dutch occupied Jaffna Tamil Kingdom and on the other side the Kandyan Kingdom of the Sinhalese.

                  I will stop for now as I believe it is sufficient to counter what JLD has written.

                  Kind Regards,
                  OTC

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              Dear IH, I had not read the articles which you are mentioning. If you had done so, I am withdrawing my accusation that you are a racist. However your suggestion is far from being acceptable to any self respecting Tamil. 13th Amendment has already been reduced by the supreme court de merging the north from east, and therefore it is already 13 minus. Also to sabotage the powers, assistant government agents were created and brought under the center. Similarly Pradeshiya Sabhas were created and brought under the center. Education and health powers were truncated by declaring some hospital and schools as national under the center.
              Therefore already 13A is severely negative and you wish to make it more negative. In 1987, both India and Srilanka promised Tamils that this was only a start and further devolution will take place as time goes on, and to accept it. Tamils have been left cheated and therefore a just devolution has to given. If the Sinhala people and the government controlled by them have the will then they can do justice. However I am sad to say that any change of government will not cause a shift in the thinking of Sinhalese regarding Tamil problem which will continue to drag on. Any forced solution not acceptable to the Tamils will not last.

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                Dr GS You say that 13A is already very negative and I want to make it even more negative. Can you tell me where I have said anything to that effect? As far as I am concerned the Tamils are at perfect liberty to seek improvements on 13A. I believe that that will not lead to a solution. What I want is a thorough implementation of 13A for the benefit of the Tamil people, even in its truncated form. together with democracy as understood in the West. That I am convinced will lead to a solution which may not be acceptable to some Tamils. – IH

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                  Izeth Hussain

                  “What I want is a thorough implementation of 13A for the benefit of the Tamil people, even in its truncated form.”

                  I would have thought Devolution is about democracy, at the local level. It is not just for Tamils but for the entire island.

                  Why do people who have selective amnesia focus on 13A, 13A+, 13A- as if it was the exclusive demand of Tamils?

                  Power should be devolved to the smallest unit of democratic exercise, not concentrated in the hands of most corrupt politicians. A few people should not be allowed to enjoy absolute power at the top away from people.

                  By the way most odious Sinhala/Buddhist bigots believe 13A should be removed from the constitution because it was shoved on to them by Hindia. They constantly make lot of noise whenever they were asked to opine on the political fall out of 13A.

                  Why haven’t they done it away over the past 27 years? Or do they rely on Hindians to remove it from “our” constitution?

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                  Ha! Ha! After being attacked left, right and centre Izeth Hussain now pleads “What I want is a thorough implementation of 13A for the benefit of the Tamil people” What a fine advocate for Tamil rights and justice??? The man all the while has been encouraging the dilution of 13A by suggesting Tamils will have to do without Land and Police Powers. The rest of what this sworn anti-Tamil rabid racist writes here, as usual, is Codswallop.

                  Kettikaran

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                    Kettikaran

                    “The rest of what this sworn anti-Tamil rabid racist writes here, as usual, is Codswallop.”

                    How can you call him a “sworn anti-Tamil rabid racist” when most of his close friends are Tamils. Had his religion permitted he would have married to a Tamil woman.

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                      Native V,

                      “…when most of his close friends are Tamils..” I don’t know his
                      friends but I think not, judging by the prejudice he has disgorged
                      for a long time. At the time when he wrote in The Island suggesting to the Govt Tamil civilians in the war areas should be starved, I know someone known to me spoke to Devanesan Nesiah, who was appalled at the suggestion. Since then, he (Hussain) has become progressively anti-Tamil. Little chance he can have friends there judging by the adjectives he uses on Tamils. I know many Muslims are also fed up with his anti-Tamil venom.

                      Kettikaran

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                    As usual our Ketti is unable to understand my plain English because his mind is so full of racist hatred that his rational faculty goes into abeyance as soon as he starts reading me. I wrote that I want a thorough implementation of 13A “even in its truncated form”. That has been my position all along. I have a theory, a highly original one, about Renoir’s The River. But that will be too much for our Ketti – IH

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                      Phew! From Italian Opera to Renoir of the Parisian Galleries and even the period of Renaissance. Izeth Hussain is going places now. Soon he will bore us with his knowledge of Claude Monet, Degas, Rembrandt, Goya and the lot. One good thing in getting high every evening, even on abin as Izeth probably is hooked to, is you travel the delusionary world and think you are Emperor and everyone else is a fool. The Angoda mentality, if you like. From then on the man will go into classical music and bore us with his lowdown of Luciano Pavarotti, Placido Domingo and Jose Carreras. However, one must admit he is no aerial Sompala, this Husain – for sure. Except in pronouncing on the National Question, he is zilch. Simply because he has this habit of running with the hare and hunting with the hounds.

                      Learn some intellectual consistency, ole chap.

                      Cheers.

                      Kettikaran

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      Yes it is a particularly dark comment from Mr Hussein – show’s his rather illiberal mindset. Glad that the world has evolved and progressed leaving him pretty much in the dark ages.

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    Haaa.. So you are asking us to forget brutal rape, killing and the Sinhala only law and burning Jaffna library. Don’t be soon let UN release war crime document in Sepetember. Let the world know dirty of Sri Lanka.

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      Prem

      “Let the world know dirty of Sri Lanka.”

      Yes.

      Nothing, but the truth, including VP and LTTE.

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        Well the Tamils want a transparent inquiry – its the majority of the Sinhalese who don’t … makes you wonder why, doesn’t it.

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    You seem to have got stuck in the groove, this article is the same old stuff you wrote in your previous 2, recycled again and again.
    Go re-cycle your waste not your writings, if you have run our of stuff to write, stay away and come back when you do.
    Boring.

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    What are you trying to tell the Tamils?
    Get what the government gives take it and shut up
    You have to understand one thing since 1948 Tamils got cheated by the both parties
    Now you are trying to tel Wigneswaran cause the problem
    Even yesterday police ia harassing the Tamil reporters and no action been taken to those police
    Nothing changed in the north just a same as before few land released by the army but all the houses bulldozed

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      Unrealistic expectations by you Tamils contributed to you being cheated

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        Ravi Perera Sinhala speaking Demela

        “Unrealistic expectations by you Tamils contributed to you being cheated”

        by successive Sinhala/Buddhist governments.

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        They were not cheated but their greedy attempt at cheating the Non Tamil population was thwarted.

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    This is one of the worst article ever I have come across where facts are ignored, truths were hidden and useless assumptions. Rubbish!

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    Is the position of the ‘leader of the opposition’, a position on the side of government? Has it any clout to influence the course of governance in the country? So, why all this fuss about preventing the leader of the TNA getting a position legitimately due to him in terms of parliamentary tradition both in Sri Lanka and the Commonwealth? So why this utterly racist position of opposing Sambanthan?

    I wonder why this author is so much emphatic about a so-called 13A minus? Is there anything substantial in 13A to go minus?

    Sengodan. M

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    there is no solution to the problem without giving the people of the north and east the right to manage their own affairs and having responsibility and control over their land and law and order is an integral part of that.There can be no minus here as the author wants.

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      “people of the north and east the right to manage their own affairs and having responsibility and control over their land and law and order”

      East ??

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        Ravi Perera Sinhala speaking Demela

        “East ??”

        Why not?

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          Native Vedda

          “Ravi Perera Sinhala speaking Demela “

          CORRECTION: Ravi Perera Para-Sinhala speaking Para-Demela.

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        Ravi perera

        i have mentioned people,not tamils.Sinhalese are welcome to settle more and more in the north and east and vise versa for tamils in the south too.The ethnic problem will automatically solve won’t it as long as people have control of their day to day affairs instead of relying on distant colombo with it bureaucrats on leave and travelling all the way from galle etc and sleeping in office.

        hasn’t the JVP armed rebellion problem reduced a lot after the advent of the provincial councils?They are mostly from the deep south and the southern provincial council has given them a fighting chance of having some power in their traditional areas.

        best joke is these were the very same fellows who violently opposed the provincial councils in 1987 and used the same to create havoc in the country and bring it to a standstill in 1989 when preme took over and ruthlessly suppressed them.That cunning piece of shit wijeweera knew that the devolution of power in the south would make it difficult to recruit more and more for his cause because these bastards thrive on unrest and not calmness.he used the excuse of devolution creating seoperatism in the north,while actually his main worry was what it would do in the south.Prabhaharan is the carbon copy of wijeweera,both karawe/karayar who also opposed the councils and even federalism,only wanting seperatism.just like wijeweera only wanted the overthrow of the government and he becoming a Fidel castro.

        So think whether devolution is bad or good based on these two guys.If they opposed it should we do the opposite to benefit the country?Did they have the best interests of the sinhalese(wijeweera)and tamils(prabhaharan)in mind or were their interests purely selfish.So if anyone supports their policy of opposing devolution aren’t they also having selfish interests and not the interest of the country at large.

        Devolution is the key to solving the ethnic problem and also the low country vs upcountry problem and the karawe/salagama/durawe vs govigama problem and the jaffna tamils vs batti tamils problem(that is why the nort and east should never be amalgamated)and the vellala and karayar/other caste problems and one day the indian tamil and srilankan tamil problem,and also the muslim vs sinhala,and muslim vs tamil problem.Our country is small but very complex when you look at its history with 5 kingdoms at one time and then 2 got swallowed up by then there was 3.then 300 years of foreign rule with a new culture of colombo based westernites and also indian tamil labour being brought in and coastal areas catholics by portuguese etc.very complex indeed.

        That is why if there is no rights for people to manage their own affairs time to time it will erupt in violence and even if there isn’t violence the the country will be disunited and foreigners will take advantage of that just like our history shows,to balkanise this country into little bits.They will be quite happy with a small piece of the land because of its strategic location,and will only want a good port,an airport etc.They don’t need much land or its people because they are not interested in an empire and country to exploit, but in a strategic location only.

        Also when they start fighting with each other over our land with the modern weapons at their disposal(not nuclear)there won’t be much left of us and they coudn’t care a fart about the devastation(like vietnam,korea,iraq,afghanistan,syria etc) because in their home countries people are happily going about their daily lives and nothing is happening to them.They will have an unwritten agreement to confine the fighting only in srilanka and not attack each other in other parts which will result in a wider coflict that they all can ill afford.They could even without fighting come to a agreement to share the country just like in 1947 at the yalta conference roosevelt,stalin and churchill decided share the world.

        If balkanisation happens one day in this country during this century(it is not a question of will it but when)i will squarely blame those who opposed devolution based on their own self interests and not looking at the big picture as a whole,but like looking at the view from driving a car instead of a helicopter.

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        Original people and the rightful owners and of the east are the Tamilised Veddhas and not the rest of the Tamils like Mukkuvas or Sihalese or Muslims. The current state of the east is due to factors like large scale Sinhala colonisation, murder and ethnic cleansing of Tamils and population explosion of Muslims.

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    It seems clear to me that everyone is missing the point. It is not the final solution that is important here. It is the interim solution – an agreement between all parties, in the best spirit of political compromise, to come to a common agreement on what to do next.

    Like the cricket teams of the world fraternizing over a case of beer, the extremists should get together and come up with a way to end suffering of their own people, and build trust between them:

    For example:

    TNA should talk to JHU
    TNA should talk to BBS

    These talks should be non-binding for a start, just a forum for each side to let off steam as it were, and understand each other. The walls of suspicion and communal ism must come down.

    It looks to me as if many if not all Tamils are very disappointed and very upset with the status quo, there must be reasons for this and these must be discussed at least, let alone adressed at length.

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      Vanguard

      “TNA should talk to JHU TNA should talk to BBS”

      What is your cunning idea?

      Would you like TNA to form alliances with the lunatic fringe so that the TNA can be blamed for Ethnic cleansing of Muslims and justify what JHU and BBS think, say and act upon?

      Ethnic fringe always find suitable alliance with already established parties to ride on the popularity of the former. JHU and BBS are parasites.

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    So we have a “Tamil Problem” only because of India? So you are in completion here with DJ

    Wonder if anyone noticed the massacre of Muslims. No. No one noticed it. So there was never a Muslim problem.
    perhaps just a Muslim terrorist problem ?

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    Hussain seems to have dementia or Alzheimer’s, and he suddenly wakes up from his deep slumber and dreams about “true democracy” when Sri Lanka’s “democracy” has only brought insurrections in the South and North, mass murder, genocide and war crimes, with no justice for any victims, particularly Tamil victims.

    The solution will be determined by what the Tamil people themselves feel will work for them within a rational and realistic framework, not by whatever “allergies” or paranoia that the Sinhalese have developed. They can seek medical treatment for such paranoia, and Hussain himself should go back to his hospital bed.

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    The man is delusional. If not for India, there will be no ethnic problem he declares as if the whole problem was caused by India. Maybe, the BBS is right. If the Muslims had not become Wahabis, there would be no Muslim problem. His Hindutva thesis is really an indication of senile dementia setting in. The BJP was not in power for most of post-Independent India. Indira Gandhi, who may have had a hand in fomenting the situation in Sri Lanka, was hardly for Hindutva. The man is seeing too many thunderbolts these days. A charge of war crime or genocide is not new. The fact that Wigneswaran states it does not add much to the charge or make it a thunderbolt. It is a charge that is there. A tribunal can decide whether or not it can be made out. Why should this be a thunderbolt?

    What about the people killed at Aluthgama by “us”. Why has Hussein not alleged that this is genocide too, for the people killed were identifiable on the basis of religion and the state stood by without giving protection. Just don’t ramble along showing your hatred in your old age. There must be better things for you to do without expecting more bones and crumbs from your masters.

    Many states, big and small, are federal states. The list is long. From Canada, Switzerland, Malaysia, Australia etcetc. Why should federalism not be a solution? If Modi had suggested it, why should the idea flow from Hindutva? But, rationalism is lost on those from whom reason had fled.

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    Izeth Hussain coming forward, unsolicited, to offer suggestions to end our ethnic issue is like Jack the Ripper offering to mediate on women’s welfare. It is clear to all in these pages, Hussain has forfeited all claims to be a neutral umpire given his old, and still growing prejudice against Tamils, India, Wigneswaren, Hindutva – the list grows. As readers here suggest the man keeps repeating and recycling his arguments, he has become a tiresome bore – not the outstanding intellectual and writer he thinks of himself.

    Look at his contradictions.

    “There seems to be no prospect of a political solution in the foreseeable future” says the self-appointed super intellectual. And then goes 360 degrees to conclude “I am convinced the formula I am suggesting, if properly implemented, will end the ethnic problem for good” ???? Is the guy real?

    Locking horns with the pugnacious racist derelict is becoming so routinely boring. But let me,once more, engage some of his brittle arguments.

    It is up to the TNA to deal with Hussain in this wild and reckless charge they are “duplicitous” But then, that is, if they think it is worth their while to go down to trivia of nondescripts.
    He claims “Sampanthan had declared in the North that only the tactics had changed while the goal of Eelam remains unchanged” I cannot recall ascribed to Sampanthan except to add the same charge was made against SJVC decades ago – to spice up anti-Tamil momentum. Is Mr. Hussain trying to resurrect this to harm the Tamils?

    In his fond wish to scuttle any forward movement between the Tamil leadership and the Sinhala side, Hussain quickly puts his spanner into the works as he keeps harping Tamils are best advised to accept 13A without Police and Land Powers. On the contrary, we see many allegations of land grabbing by the forces, and, their friends of valuable agricultural and residential land in the past decade. These would not have occurred if Land Powers were with the NPC. And if Police Powers were with the local Council the many thousands of complaints of extreme War Crime and HR violations, now with the UN and the Hague, may have not been there.

    But Hussain apparently has other ideas to keep the Tamils and the Sinhalese at their throats. Let me express a view. Many leading Sinhala scholars have told me it is time the Sinhalese and Tamils narrow their differences with generous give and take on both sides.
    Because, they say and I agree, others gain territorially and politically while both major communities are at logger heads. I am happy to see this change of position in the leadership of both communities in recent times.

    In his unfriendly and crude judgement ”Modi was guilty of blatant interference in the internal affairs of Sri Lanka”…..”India is unfit to be a member of the Security Council” ….”India is bullying a small neighbour” With these unwarranted and provocative commens he betrays his enormous dislike of India, for absolutely no good reason.

    I have, however, no issue with him when he wonders why Modi spoke in Hindi in Jaffna although I might not go to the extent of Hussain’s unsaid hint Modi obliquely suggests Jaffna is part of India. BTW, I have no objection in students in the Tamil areas taking to studying Hindi – to increase their prospects of studying and learning in that vast and fastly developing land.

    I am sure Arumugam Thondaman, Digambaram, Velayutham and many other Malainadu leaders will strongly disagree with Hussain as he commits the faux pas “Mano Ganeshan, who is at present the leading representative of the estate Tamils” Mano Ganesan is not even in Parliament, Sir, and he is a Colombo-based politician trying desperately for years to get a foothold in the Central Hills.

    However, I agree with you that “MR (followed a) two-pronged strategy to alienate the Tamils viz: (a) humiliate the Tamils and (b) go for infrastructure projects from which the Rajapaksa Gang could profit mightily” To many Tamils, that seems to many have been the Rajapakse Policy to (not)solve the National Question. Additionally, MR used the 1-soldier-to-3-civilian ratio to harass Tamil civilians 24×7 in his decades old rule. He did not relax in making the Tamils feel 2nd class and a subject race under the heels of the military. He hurt every Tamil man, woman and child denying the practise of their singing the National Anthem in Tamil that was in practise for decades. The vengeful man he is, MR is stung by the slight he encountered at the hands of Diaspora groups when he was denied his fond wish to address the Oxford University.

    Kettikaran

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      A couple of nights ago I saw a stunning DVD version of La Traviata. I must find more time for Italian opera.I recalled Auden had written that he was glad that he had come to Italian opera only in his middle age when he had the human experience to really appreciate them. Auden really knew about music.Many of his poems were set to music by Benjamin Britten, and also by lesser-known English composers such as lennox Berkely and Gerald Finzi, some of which are very fine. He wrote the libretto for Stravinsky’s Rake’s Progress.
      I am trying to find time to live on the heights. I know that I have to descend to the regime of the quotidian, but nothing obliges me to waste my time on garbage. So I won’t deal with Ketti’s arguments. But I am prepared to enlightenment him occasionally. He writes “not the outstanding intellectual and writer he thinks himself”. But that’s what others think of me, not what I think of myself. I cited my former colleague, Palihakkara. Ketti’s mind is so full of murderous racist hatred that he cannot understand my plain English. Incidentally there is an interesting detail about my article on which Ketti unloads his garbage.Today’s Island draws special attention to it on its front page, not at the top as usual but below. I must add that the Island is a newspaper of the highest intellectual quality. – IH

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        the only great thing about a newspaper are its advertisements-

        David Bowie also sings from Bernard Shaw prose.

        The Italians call Sherlock Holmes books – Yellow/Gello

        There is no byzantine for you to capture – the Italian women foreign affairs high priest at EU is smarting from a Modi – TKO
        No visit no trade with the unelected gravy train.

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        Izeth Hussain say it over and over again:
        Was the Hindutva ideology behind Modi’s diplomatic faux pas? One of my readers has pointed out some very significant details. In India Modi speaks in Hindi, which of course is understandable. In Colombo he spoke in English, which again is understandable because hardly anyone in his audience would have understood Hindi. But in Jaffna where also hardly anyone would have understood Hindi he spoke in Hindi.””

        This is a total repeat from last article from a fascist like Bin Larden.

        You know Gota and Fonny both love you and the money you can bring by joining in the fight.

        Get the gallant Lankan forces and go to Medieval Middle East and leave the rest of the tamils sinhalese to mind their business of living.

        Analysis: M Ilyas Khan, BBC News, Islamabad
        Saudi Arabia has been a major foreign donor to Pakistan – some say perhaps the third-largest after the US and China.
        Late last year, for example, what finance minister Ishaq Dar initially described as a $3bn (£2bn) “gift from a friendly source” turned out to be Saudi largesse that was used to stabilise a free-falling rupee against the US dollar. Soon afterwards Pakistan officially backed the Saudi position on Syria.

        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-32246547

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        “…I must add that the Island is a newspaper of the highest intellectual quality.”

        Colombo must be full of delusional people for you to make this laughable claim about the Island. Anyone who reads the editorials of the daily editions knows the paper’s racist character and its alignment with the Rajapaksas. The owner’s husband was some sort of a minister in the Rajapaksa cabinet, and is still part of the group that supports MR.

        In other countries, a large number of people get advanced degrees and high schools barely get mentioned socially, but in Colombo people who stop with high school education and then work in some family-owned business make a big deal about being Royalist or Thomian. And among such people, lying ex-diplomats can easily pass off as “intellectuals of the highest caliber.”

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          Re “The owner’s husband was some sort of a minister in the Rajapaksa cabinet,…”

          Sorry to say so Agnos but that was IDIOTIC.

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          I concur with the views expressed by Agnos on the daily Island. Gone are the days of its sublime heights under
          its gallant founder, the patriotic Upali W. Despite Prabath being a good journo, the Island’s standing and circulation is reportedly down drastically. One reason could be Izeth Hussain’s regular garbage – courtesy the Muslim Brotherhood – within the Editorial Dept. The Island does not usually permit critical views on Hussain’s regular pieces. But, all the same, he gets walloped regularly by a number of sharp readers in the columns of Cbo Telegraph. The Island, since of late, has become the voice of the Rajapakses – thanks to Welagama, the political animal. The anti-Maitripala-Ranil journo C.A. Chandraprema whose raison d’etre is to pour venom on the current regime and mislead the readership.
          We miss the biting journalism of the Sinhala supremacist Nalin de S that used to be regular weekly affair.

          But I beg to disagree with Agnos if he means Hussain – by his comments. Despite my differences of opinion with the boastful Octogenarian, I have regards for his English writing, knowledge of political and worldly affairs. He has a tendency to play with the truth in matters concerning the Muslims and betrays his pet aversion of Tamils and India. For this he gets a bellyful regularly, as can be seen. Of late, he vainly tries to impress readers of his “rare” knowledge of Italian Opera and Western Music. Wow! It’s been a long walk for the man from Mariakade and Maradana to Mozart, Brahms and Bach. Why not? Say I too.

          Kettikaran

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            Kettikaran

            “Despite my differences of opinion with the boastful Octogenarian, I have regards for his English writing,”

            One should age gracefully.

            Age does not guarantee wisdom.

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            Our Ketti writes that I get a “bellyful regularly”. Quite true. Quite true also that it’s garbage.And it is also quite true that the garbage boiling with hatred and mad-dog rage comes overwhelmingly from Tamil lunatic fringe anti-Muslim racists like our Ketti. – IH

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        The guy says he listens to exalted Western operas and music, gives out his reading list and proclaims himself to be speaking from intellectual heights. His rambling, racist thoughts show that he is better off watching mickey mouse cartoons and reading Enid Blyton’s Noddy books. He should tell us why when he is so exalted, he does not put his own house and people in order. They behead people. They put their young women in purdah and deny them meaningful lives. Their old women are in black in the vain hope that other men would care to look upon and ravish them. They themselves are notorious philanderers. Why worry about Hindutva when you have so many ills to cure.? The Muslims are treated with contempt by both Sinhalese and Tamils in Sri Lanka. There are so many jokes about the Thambiya by both communities simply because they are turncoats not to be trusted. Hussein has done so much to confirm that opinion. It is best for the Muslims of Sri Lanka that in his moment of senility he avoids making so many racist comments which only provoke the worst in others. He churns out the same old gibberish and is eager to pass himself off as a high intellectual. He deserves pity.

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      I have a little time to spare.So I will show why I think Ketti writes garbage. He quotes me as writing, “There seems to be no prospect of a political solution in the foreseeable future”, Then he quotes me as writing that if the formula proposed by me is implemented fully there will be a solution of the ethnic problem for good. He sees there a contradiction. He has failed to notice my simple word “seems”. My meaning plainly was that it appeared, that it seemed, that there was no political solution. It has been a marked characteristic of the anti-Muslim Tamil racists that they can’t understand my plain English. The reason I believe is that as soon as they start reading me they are so full of hatred and rage that their rational faculty goes into abeyance.
      I really think that Vaughan Williams’ Fifth Symphony stands apart from his other symphonies. It is a masterpiece.It was written at the height of the war. It is ablaze with his love of England. I shall re-enter the heights again. – IH

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        Yours is not plain English in character but singlish in style.
        [Edited out]

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    Izeth Hussain

    “True, the Tamils had a kingdom here at one time. But for the most part they lived together with the Sinhalese without any power sharing arrangement by way of devolution, in a relationship that was for the most symbiotic, not antagonistic”

    Well said sir

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      Ravi Perera Sinhala speaking Demela

      “Well said sir”

      Bull s**t Demela.

      Governance under kingdoms and democracy are two completely different arrangement. If Izeth Hussain prefers or believe in romantic idea of a Sinhala/Buddhist khalifah he should find the right person. In a localized context he might find a khalifah in the Islamic Republic of Kattankudy and one in Hambantota, a Sinhala/Buddhist khalifah in waiting. By the way Hindians got rid of the Tamil khalifah in 2009.

      But then people are accustomed to democracy however much bogus it might have been in the past they still believe in democracy expect it to deliver.

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        Vedda,

        You love attention, don’t you. You poor thing

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          Ravi Perera Sinhala speaking Demela

          “You love attention, don’t you. You poor thing”

          No, I love stupid people. They need love and care hence my response to your typing.

          You should catch with some reading and I recommend the following papers:

          Archaeology and Cosmopolitanism in Early Historic and Medieval Sri Lanka

          By R Conningham, M Manuel and C Davis

          The Vijayan Colonization and the Archaeology of Identity in Sri Lanka

          By Coningham, Robin; Lewer, Nick
          Antiquity;Sep2000, Vol. 74 Issue 285, p707

          REGIONAL INDEPENDENCE AND ELITE CHANGE IN THE POLITICS OF 14th-CENTURY SRI LANKA

          By Ananda S. Kulasuriya

          Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society of Great Britain and Ireland, No. 2 (1976), pp. 136-155

          Please stop humiliating yourself in this forum by not kissing OTC’s bum.

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            Veddo,

            Do you do a job

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              Ravi Perera Sinhala speaking Demela

              “Do you do a job”

              Yes I do.

              You would be surprised to hear I am gainfully employed, its a hard work. Unlike most in the south I haven’t sent my partner to medieval middle east kingdoms. Therefore I have to work hard to eke out a living.

              “Without hard work, nothing grows but weeds.”
              Gordon B. Hinckley

              I see lot of weeds in your typing.

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                What job do you do ?

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                  Ravi Perera Sinhala speaking Demela

                  “What job do you do ?”

                  Collecting honey, and keep the nation healthy.

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                    Honey and Bunny.

                    Diabetics is worse/equal than HIV/AIDS.

                    SRI LANKA at a glance (2013)
                    Adult population (20-79) in 1000s 14,033.05 Diabetes expenditure / person with diabetes (USD) 127
                    Diabetes cases (20-79) in 1000s 1,128.01 Diabetes related deaths (20-79) 16,276
                    Diabetes raw national prevalence (%) 8.04 Number of people with undiagnosed diabetes (20-79) in 1000s 553.29

                    http://www.idf.org/global-diabetes-scorecard/assets/downloads/Scorecard-29-07-14.pdf

                    page 117

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                    Where do you collect your honey from.

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                      “Where do you collect your honey from. “
                      Stupid modaya
                      One could have it in cities of London too.
                      Wherever there are flowers people breed bees in their balconies and they come in kits.
                      https://www.omlet.co.uk/guide/bees/starting+out/
                      Can you keep bees?
                      Keeping bees is a fantastically rewarding hobby – but how do you know if you can? There are several things to consider…
                      Time
                      Keeping bees requires small amounts of regular time with the bees. You typically have to spend around half an hour per week with a hive. You can do this at the weekend or, if the weather is still good, when you return from work. Most beekeepers would like to spend more time with their bees rather than less, as beekeeping is highly addictive. Unlike keeping other animals, the bees mostly look after themselves and will not notice if you go on holiday. In all, you might spend 20-30 hours over the course of a year with the bees.

                      Space
                      Bees can be kept anywhere from country orchards to urban gardens to small city balconies. It is a common misconception that you need a large garden or countryside nearby. Although this can make siting your bees easier, urban gardens are arguably better. Nectar and pollen can be gathered from a wide variety of plants. This means that there is often a constant source of food throughout the summer and a lack of harmful pesticides.

                      Neighbours
                      You might be worried what you neighbours will think. If you have a large garden, it is possible that your neighbours will not know you have bees. However, if space is tight, you need to carefully plan the beehive site and ensure you purchase bees that are good tempered (i.e. buy you bees from a reputable supplier). The beehive should be located in such a way that the entrance of the hive does not point into a footpath or busy area of the garden.

                      Equipment
                      Beekeeping requires a few pieces of essential equipment including clothing, tools and (obviously) a hive. These are covered later in the guide.

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                      Ravi Perera Sinhala speaking Demela

                      “Where do you collect your honey from.”

                      Not from rice fields.

                      Here is what I said about my job

                      Native Vedda
                      April 23, 2012 at 6:12 pm

                      Ravi Perera

                      I am only a honey collector and I would not know much about history. Therefore it is only appropriate that I learn history from a historian. I happened to read your comments on the island history hence I decided to learn history from you. Would you accept me as your student?

                      You can start from Gondawanaland, Lemuria, Sumeria, etc.

                      And your reponses on your history lessons:

                      Ravi Perera
                      April 21, 2012 at 9:31 am

                      Dear Native vedda,

                      You are a Tamil masquarading as a vedda to show a neutral face. Am I write. About the history beyond 2500 yrs..

                      Well a prince called Vijaya (A naught one) along with a some others arrived in the island 2500 yrs ago from the present day Bengal and integrated with the natives of the island who were referd to a Helas. With time a new race called sinhala evolved fromthe helas and migrants from India. King vijya was known as Bjay Singhe in Bengal. Wether Sinhala came from Singhe +Hela or a sinhalisation/helaciation of singhe into sinhala is something not clear. The written histry of the sinhala race is over 2500 yrs. Prior to that for nearly 30,000 yrs the three tribes known as the Helas inhabited the island of heladiva.

                      Ravi Perera

                      April 23, 2012 at 6:52 am
                      Native Vedda,

                      Okay if you think Ranawaka & Gammanpilla are twisting facts to suit their agenda, i would like you to let me know what you know about the Sri Lankas history. I would like to know the evolution of the sinhyala civilaisation inthe country, the tamil heritage in the country. Lets see wether what you say is consistent with what I have heard or if it is different I would like to probe further etc.

                      Okay vedda pls start…

                      DBSJ RESPONDS:

                      Please go to Libraries and read books and do your research.Leave this site alone.

                      http://dbsjeyaraj.com/dbsj/archives/5693

                      Ravi Perera Sinhala speaking Demela

                      You have wasted your precious 3 years since you wrote those comments. Its not too late you can still catch up with your education.

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                      If a bumble bee stings there is no cure- lime does not help much.
                      Bumble bee breeding is big time industry running into billions.
                      They also make pests that kill plants.. take care – remember the coconut trees were attacked- beware the diaspora in the Netherlands and USA.

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                    You also annoy modayas.

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              Dear Ravi Perera,

              This Tamil Separatist is ashamed of his own ethnicity and is masquerading as a Lankan Aborigine by calling himself a Veddha.

              Other than wise cracking this joker is incapable of engaging in a debate. He has tried a few times and had claimed the Parippu Drop by the Indian Air Force was done by the IPKF. We all know that the IPKF was born after the Parippu Drop.

              On May 25, 2014 at 2:16 pm, “Native Veddha” addressing a comment to Manoharan, wrote “You have great sense of History. I envy you…..The stupid Tamils suffered last time when IPKF arrived because the Sri Lankan armed forces who were supposed to defend this island were found hiding behind their women folks and VP’s fat bottom”

              As you can see, he has an incurable fascination for “Bums”

              Kind Regards,
              OTC

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      Izeth hussein

      ravi perera highlights your quote”True, the Tamils had a kingdom here at one time. But for the most part they lived together with the Sinhalese without any power sharing arrangement by way of devolution

      and he praises you saying well said.Thompson and Thompson.

      Can you tell me when you have a kingdom why should you have a power sharing arrangement with devolution?For example has srilanka got a power sharing arrangement and devolution with india,like tamilnadu.

      Now as usual you might think of coming out with your wordplay nonsense to wriggle out and justify what you have written,but BS is BS for me.

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    It is ridiculous for Izeth to suggest that 45% of the Sinhalese voted for MY3. If thats the case then along with Tamil and Muslim voters MY3 would have had 70% of the popular vote but MY3 scraped in with just 52%, suggesting only 27% of the Sinhalese voted for MY3 (based on 25% Tamil, Muslim, Sinhala Cristian voters combined). 13A was imposed with a threat of force should be abolished. A constituition based on democracy, equal opportunity, enhanced and impartial law enforcemet, security for all citizens, freedom of worship, 3 official languages is the way forward.

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      lal loo

      “If thats the case then along with Tamil and Muslim voters MY3 would have had 70% of the popular vote but MY3 scraped in with just 52%, suggesting only 27% of the Sinhalese voted for MY3 (based on 25% Tamil, Muslim, Sinhala Cristian voters combined).”

      Are you alluding to the fact that those 52% who voted for Maithiri are bit wiser than the 48% who didn’t. There is ray of hope for democracy in this island.

      Thanks for your analysis.

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    Dear Mr. Ravi Perera,

    So there was a Tamil kingdom to someone like you – a regular denier. So if there were one or two Tamil Kings, they would have followed many before them. Agree?

    The Sinhala-Tamil relationship Hussain speaks of, I believe, is post-19th century in the South. Where is the need for Devolution here. Prior to that both Sinhala and Tamil kingdoms for many centuries, separated by the Wanni jungle, lived and were ruled separately by kings from both sides. In the interim, there were Tamil Kings in the
    NCP/NWP and, periodically, some parts of the Tamil East owed suzerainty to Kandyan Kings. Devolution entered the political lexicon
    only in recent times.

    Backlash

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    Dear Backlash,

    “periodically, some parts of the Tamil East owed suzerainty to Kandyan Kings.”

    Are you saying that at one point in time the Tamil of East were part of the Jaffna Kingdom.

    Whilst it is acknowledged that Jaffna was, for about 300-400 years out of our history of 2500 years, a seat of political power ,it nature and question such as whether it was a “kingdom” or not and the extent of its power is still disputed among historians. However even those historians who support the view that the seat of power was, both a kingdom and Tamil Kingdom are at once in agreeing that it was a kingdom of fluctuating fortunes, the territory of which was largely confined to the Jaffna Peninsula and never extended to the Eastern Province.

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      From the way Ravi Perera twists his words I wonder if he is a lawyer – a somewhat crafty one at that. I didn’t say Tamils of East. I said Tamil East – roughly the current Eastern Province – the Stolen EP, if you like. If you have the line, please have a chat with the liberal and respect Prof. Gananath Obeysekera, who has done much work in the EP searching for this vexed issue. I believe he is more in Colombo now than at Princeton. You will benefit speaking to Dr. Shiran Deraniyagala as well, who has a wealth of knowledge here. The other gentleman who can provide you education is Dr. Sudarshan Seneviratne – but he is now Our Man, a superb one at that, in New Delhi – an eminent appointment that brought in some sanity and civilizational norm in those many zany Rajapakse diplomatic appointments. Prof. Pathmanathan is also there, who may like to help in the understanding of history.

      Rgds

      Backlash

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        ” I said Tamil East – roughly the current Eastern Province – the Stolen EP”

        ha ha ha.. Joke of the century.Stolen from whom. It is you Tamil buggers who have stolen our land. Your homeland is Tamil Nadu man. Tamils in Sri Lanka are no different to the ethnic minorities living in different countries in Europe.

        Can you pls let me know wether the so called Tamil East (according to you the size of current East) was part of a Tamil Kingdom ?

        When you Tamils believe King Durugemunu was a Tamil what garbage can you not believe.

        You quote Dr. Shiran Deraniyagala,Prof. Gananath Obeysekera,Dr. Sudarshan Seneviratne.Add Wickremabahu Karunaratne too.

        Respected professors like M De silva and CR De Silva have completely different views.There was a Tamil by the name Arsaratnam who said that Tamil presence in Sri Lanka was only from the 10th century.
        There are Tamil traitors like Devananda,Karuna who are hated by you but used by the sinhalese.

        It is upto you Tamils to argue your case and get eelam. North (Specially the peninsula) you might if India does not object, but East never man. You have not got the numbers nor the historical facts to back this. It will be a big no no from the Muslims too.

        During the apartheid days there were many whites who backed the blacks. Such people among the Sinhalese are just a few.
        General perception among the Sinhalese about the Tamils is that you are a selfish group of people as a result very few Sinhalese genuinely sympathies with you Tamils.

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        backlash

        Prof. Gananath Obeysekera one of the few intellectually honest academics left in this island, mostly lives in Kandy.

        I am highly offended by your choice of eminent scholars in which you have deliberately left out our child protegee Darshanie Ratnawalli, her gurus Bandu de Silva and Michael Robersts.

        The omission clearly shows your bias towards Indrapala.

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          Dear Native V

          I was told Gananath was at ICES at Kynsey Rd. Cbo recently. I don’t dispute he visits Peradeniya often. I notice your list
          does not include that self-claimed “one of the highest considered intellectuals and political analysts of our time” Izeth H – now believed to be a paid voice of Islamic extremism and anti-Indianism here. I wonder when RAW gives fuller details of the local Taliban’s surreptitious activities in Tamilnadu if Izeth’s name will figure in. This is what Panikkar warned decades ago “as action inimical to India’s vital security interests”

          We have now confirmation ACS Hameed pocketed what the South Korean Govt gave Sri Lanka on an educational Grant. Ashraff did the same thing in arming Batticaloa Muslims extremists from ISI and Libyan funds to harm South Indian targets at a later time. The time is now – and it appears the Indians have all the evidence. But old VP seems to have read the signs right and moved in at Kattankudy. KP will know more.

          Backlash

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            backlash

            I read somewhere Prof. Gananath Obeysekera is permanently settled in Kandy.

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      Ravi Perera Sinhala speaking Demela

      “Are you saying that at one point in time the Tamil of East were part of the Jaffna Kingdom.”

      Just forget backlash’s comment for a second.

      When you selectively read past perverted history to suite your current political agenda you are not only making a mockery of yourself but entire shred heritage. Read the articles and learn new ways of looking at rich ancient and medieval authentic history.

      REGIONAL INDEPENDENCE AND ELITE CHANGE IN THE POLITICS OF 14th-CENTURY SRI LANKA

      By Ananda S. Kulasuriya

      Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society of Great Britain and Ireland, No. 2 (1976), pp. 136-155

      Please stop kissing OTC’s bum.

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    if the pressent Gouvernent réal SLFB party GOV.can they bring the lete Banda Selva agrement to the parlement that the real solution for tamils in the north and east.

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      Banda Selva accepts North East merger and federalism. This will never be conceded by any Sinhala government.

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        Ravi Perera Sinhala speaking Demela

        “This will never be conceded by any Sinhala government.”

        Exactly, Banda a descendant of Nayaka Pandara of South India dropped all his high ideals for the sake of politics and descended to being a racist just because he wanted to rule the Sinhalese and Buddhists, by hook or crook and set fire to the island, which come to think of it was his sweet revenge.

        JR a descendant of Chettiars from South India who was also an early champion of Sinhala/Buddhist had immensely speeded up self destruction of Sinhala/Buddhists.

        Sarath Fonseka another descendant of South India and a public racist committed war crimes and crime against humanity just to fit in with the Sinhala/Buddhists.

        You see harm has been done to this country, the Sinhalese and Buddhists by descendant of South Indian converts.

        You are one of them.

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    I was under the impression there were definite guidelines and a prescribed procedure for deciding who should be the Leader of the Opposition under varying conditions of party representation in parliament.

    The outlined procedure must be followed strictly according to the letter of the law by the parliament itself that enacts legislation for others and expects them to obey same. Parliament should abide by its own laws first so as to set a good example to the citizens without being hypocritical.

    Dayan Jayatilleke and Izeth Hussain seem to think that the leader of the opposition must be chosen by those occupying positions in the inner circle of power, according to their whims, fancies, prejudices and paranoia!

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    Izeth Hussain should go north and converse with citizens.
    Only then will he know the extent to which the army controls the lives and livelihoods of citizens, intimidates them, & thus makes them feel that they are ‘second class’ citizens.
    The army is a ‘law unto itself’ and does not heed the pronouncements of the president or prime minister.

    http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=37724

    http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=37721

    http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=37717

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    Mr. Ravi Perera,

    I tried to engage with you decently and politely. But your natural Yakshaka instinct comes in between (“you Tamil buggers who have stolen our land) and shows the yaka treachery is in your blood. Look at your first name – Ravi. Stolen from India. If you are a Buddhist the religion is from there. If Tamil words are removed from the Sinhala language, it becomes a meaningless howl. So who are you calling Tamilnadu, Sir. Even a Balapitiya Sinhala man like Dr. Colvin R.de Silva was forced to admit where they came from and round about when. Colvin was an educated and honourable man. Prof. Kingsley de Silva, whom you regularly cite, is intellectually as honest as Indrapala/n. His history is as authentic as the Mahavamsa, written 500 years after the events.

    There is no point in arguing. As they say in French “Que sera sera”
    The Tamil majority North-East Province (by the census of the early 20th century) will regain its legitimacy. If all goes well, the Sinhalese will live in the South and the Tamils in the North East – peacefully and in harmony in the coming dispensation. In the hoped-for re-arrangement no harm will come to others who lived there for generations. This does not include recent land-grabbers or political colonisers.

    Backlash

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      “” Colvin was an educated and honourable man.”

      Just like his good friend J.R the master of 83 and parripu drop.

      He took over our land and screwed up the constitution because he was jealous.

      Even more he gladly appeared for the Alitalia hijacker Sepal who finally slaughtered kutti mani the smuggler and 34 others at magazine prison during the first JVP insurrection.

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      Backlash,

      “I tried to engage with you decently and politely. But your natural Yakshaka instinct comes in between (“you Tamil buggers who have stolen our land) and shows the yaka treachery is in your blood.”

      If you read your second answer you will see if you engaged me politely. You talk of my Yaksha treachery in my blood. You have Sakkili treachery in your blood.
      ” Prof. Kingsley de Silva, whom you regularly cite, is intellectually as honest as Indrapala/n. His history is as authentic as the Mahavamsa, written 500 years after the events.”

      You don’t have to rely on Mahavansa or Demalavansa. Common sense along with logic says a lot about Sri Lankas history.

      “The Tamil majority North-East Province (by the census of the early 20th century) will regain its legitimacy”.

      Well I suppose you have to live in hope. What else do you have.

      Eastern Province will remain as part of Sinhala territory as it has always been. Muslims too will back us regain our lost land, which the tamils (Coffee plantation workers) are now trying to grab as theirs.

      If at All Sri Lanka will go back to five provinces, as the British initially created, so the Eastern province will include the present day Polonnaruwa, to give Sinhalese an absolute majority.

      By the way most sinhalese don’t give a damn about the Tamil opinion.

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        Ravi Perera Sinhala speaking Demela

        “Common sense along with logic says a lot about Sri Lankas history.”

        When did you discover this simple fact?

        What has “Common sense along with logic” got to do with Sinhala/Buddhists who voted for 8 measures of free rice made in moon?

        What has “Common sense along with logic” got to do with Sinhala/Buddhists who imposed Sinhala only language policy in 1956 and reversed it in 1988 after Hindians kicked JR’s bum for a few years before the amendment was enacted. Then introduced Enlish as the link language.

        What has “Common sense along with logic” got to do with Sinhala/Buddhists who disenfranchised up country hard working people and made them stateless in 1948 and reversed it in 1988 after JR being heavily beaten up by Hindians?

        What has “Common sense along with logic” got to do with Sinhala/Buddhists state which armed and funded LTTE during IPKF occupation?

        What has “Common sense along with logic” got to do with Sinhala/Buddhists when its Prime Minister paid a hefty sum to LTTE to rig the elections?

        What has “Common sense along with logic” got to do with Sinhala/Buddhists who believe they have no genetic affinity with their Tamil brethren of Tamil Nadu whilst all research confirming a common gene pool.

        What has “Common sense along with logic” got to do with Sinhala/Buddhists who believe the earth is flat and the entire universe revolve around them.

        What has “Common sense along with logic” got to do with Sinhala/Buddhists who believe Tamils were afraid to cross the Palk strait (30 KM)while their Sinha putras braved the seas (2370 KM)?

        What has “Common sense along with logic” got to do with Sinhala/Buddhists ……..

        What has “Common sense along with logic” got to do with Sinhala/Buddhists ………….

        What has “Common sense along with logic” got to do with Sinhala/Buddhists …………

        Some useful definitions:

        Scientific research

        is the systematic investigation of scientific theories and hypotheses. A hypothesis is a single assertion, a proposed explanation of something based on available knowledge, for something yet to be explained. One that is subject to further experimentation.

        Historical research

        is the process of systematically examining past events to give an account of what has happened in the past. It is not a mere accumulation of facts and dates or even a description of past events.

        Common Sense

        Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen.
        -Albert Einstein

        Never assume the obvious is true.
        ― William Safire

        Common sense is not so common.
        – Voltaire

        Logic

        Logic and mathematics are nothing but specialised linguistic structures.
        -Jean Piaget

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          Common sense is for middle class and nonsense is for aristocrats.

          The Buddhist monk who assisted in the bombing is happy and watching the ceiling at London- nice retreat after the bomb thanks to Jaffna solicitors who made a killing of tax payers funds.
          Its all to do with the Stupid Sinhala Buddhist copying the Ku Klux Klan- Values of aspiration and independence are still associated with whiteness. All wars are Economic and the rest is simple bullshit.
          While the Muslim thinks his is the only god and kills and shuns the Pig that eats the shit full of gold. The Chinese believe the greatest happiness is in the movement of bowels loves the pig like the Spanish and don’t enter another’s war or keep away from war.

          Saw how Hillary Clinton revved when she heard that Gaddafi was murdered. They can never believe a non-white to be the richest in the world (Bill 137 billion & Gaddafi 200 billion in Solid Gold). If she comes to power in 2016 she would kill more men than Maggie. Russia will try to avoid a war with the US as best as it could (they have done it many a time) and in the worse scenario would nuke before the west can say jack.
          On the other hand- Salma Hayek (Mexican/American) During a UNICEF fact-finding trip to Sierra Leone, she breastfed a hungry week-old baby whose mother could not produce milk.[60]She said she did it to reduce the stigma associated with breastfeeding and to encourage infant nutrition.[61] For International Women’s Day 2014 Hayek is one of the artist signatories of Amnesty International’s letter to UK Prime Minister David Cameron campaigning for women’s rights in Afghanistan.
          Angelina Jolie and Madonna adopt kids.

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        Ravi Perera,

        A part of the Sinhala leadership, beginning more in the late 1940s, planned to gradually reduce the Tamil presence and opportunities in the EP, where they were historically the majority community. The Colonisation schemes were the chief instruments. Now Tamils are not even the 2nd substantial majority in the EP. That will doubtless please you.

        The situation in the South is no better. By design, the Tamil presence in business and industry was substantially reduced as a result. I am not referring to State sector employment where Tamil prospects are dismal. Many leading Tamil millionaire businessmen were shot to death – in Colombo itself in the late 1980s by suspected JVP gunmen-assassins on the instructions of Sinhala supremacists behind the conspiracy. In consequence, Tamil presence in commerce in the South is now marginal. The Sinhala design has succeeded there beyond their fondest dreams.

        So it is in Parliament. The main objective of the Electoral Reforms is to reduce and weaken Tamil Parliamentary representation. An acknowledged communalist-racist, Dinesh G, was made head of the Committee. His brief is to ensure Tamils are brought to their knees. The arrival of the openly anti-Tamil Rajapakse family in the post-2000 period hastened matters where Tamils, largely by military means, were made a subject and 2nd class race. The situation continues unabated today.
        Fortunately, the world refuses to be passive watching these diabolical schemes with clear genocidal intent.

        But, ask yourself this question. Has this gone to enrich the ordinary Sinhala man and businessman in the South at the expense of the Tamils. No. They (Sinhalese) are poorer, hungrier and have less employment and other opportunities in both private and public sectors. Their country and its once splendid system of governance, blessed with a strong independent legal structure, lies in tatters. Religious fanaticism, lead by State sponsored ruffians in robes, has taken over the streets. We see signs of Berlin in the late 1930s. In a way, it can be argued, the surreptitious machinery that was set up (both by the UNP and SLFP interests)to harm Tamils in the long term has come around and hurt the Sinhalese more.

        Today Sinhala University students are more in the streets. We see a repeat of 1988/89. Universities are more closed than open and are breeding ground for anarchists. Fearing for the future and the safety of their children, Sinhalese are escaping in boats looking for safety overseas in human-trafficking ventures where Govt leaders are in the main rings making billions in the process.

        Tamils, who were at the vanguard of the Independence movement and governance till 1956, are now demonised and pushed to the bosom of waiting India. India has had enough of their Southern flank being made vulnerable to their security by scheming Lankan politicians paid for by China and Pakistan. All to whose benefit? To the economic fortunes of the thieving Rajapakse family.

        In brief, the once united and prosperous country is now made virtually uninhabitable for all – Sinhala, Tamils, Muslims and others. That is the result after 60 years of Sinhala Buddhist majoritarianism.

        Backlash

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          Backlash,

          “A part of the Sinhala leadership, beginning more in the late 1940s, planned to gradually reduce the Tamil presence and opportunities in the EP, where they were historically the majority community. The Colonisation schemes were the chief instruments.”

          What is Eastern Province. This is something that the British created by carving out relatively thickly opulated coastal belt with a large area of sparsely populated sinhala villages in the interior. In the newly created province the Tamils did become a majority. It is the way that the provinces are created that gave rise to the illusion. By the way Colonisation is a word you tamils use to describe the Sinhalese people being setted in neglected ancient villages. As you know this accusation by you have not brought any successful results for you and will not do so too (I am refering to the East)

          I am writting something that I have written many many times before. Please read this well and give me your thoughts.

          Whilst it is acknowledged that Jaffna was, for about 300-400 years out of our history of 2500 years, a seat of political power ,it nature and question such as whether it was a “kingdom” or not and the extent of its power is still disputed among historians. However even those historians who support the view that the seat of power was, both a kingdom and Tamil Kingdom are at once in agreeing that it was a kingdom of fluctuating fortunes, the territory of which was largely confined to the Jaffna Peninsula and never extended to the Eastern Province.
          As Professor K M De Silva said
          A Tamil kingdom did exist from the the 13th century to the early part of the 17th , but except during a brief heyday of its power it seldom controlled anything more than the Jaffna Peninsula., and some adjacent regions on the coast and some parts of the interior.
          Set against a history of 2500 yrs the independent existent of this kingdom covered a very brief period, and even during this period its status and influence varied dramatically; at times a very powerful kingdom; at others a satellite of expanding Dravidians States across the Palk straight, and at times subjugated by the Kotte Kingdom, and generally acknowledging its suzerainty.
          There is little or no evidence to support the claim made in the TULF Vaddukodai resolution that there was either an unbroken national consciousness or a continuing tradition of independent statehood.

          Professor CR De Silva said ;
          A separate kingdom in Jaffna existed in Sri Lanka from about the 13th century to 1619. During Certain periods the kingdom was so powerful that for a brief period it captured power in the western seaboard almost up to the environs of Colombo.
          But for most parts of of the 400 yrs it was a rather week kingdom confined to the environs of the Jaffna Peninsula. It never wielded power in the present day Eastern Province.
          Nor was it always independent, for it often acknowledged the sovereignty of the dominant power in south India and was once overwhelmed by a Sinhala army from the south.
          But most significantly the Tamil kings of North did not think of them as separate rulers of Tamil Kingdom. They like all the other Sinhala kings aimed ultimately at being the Monarc of all Sri Lanka.

          The first ground on which a secessionist claims the Northern and Eastern provinces as being the traditional homeland is demonstrably false.
          The second and the only other ground on which this claim is made is that there is in the Northern and Eastern Provinces, the boundaries of which were drawn by the British purely for their administrative purposes .
          There is clearly no justification for once racial group claiming proprietary , exclusive rights over the others within these two boundaries set artificially by the British merely because there are more members of that group over the others. If there is any validity in such contention it would follow with even greater force from the same principle, since there is and always has been within the natural borders of Sri Lanka, am overwhelming preponderance of Sinhalese, the entirety of Sri Lanka is the homeland of the Sinhalese.
          Whilst Tamils are an overwhelming majority in the North the same can not be said about the Eastern Province. Muslims and the Sinhalese together constitute about 64% of the eastern Province.
          Although the Sinhalese are about 25 % of Eastern Province, the Tamils and the Muslim settlements are largely confined to the coastal areas (Particulary in Ampara and Trincomalee) which are relatively thickly populated compared to the sparsely populated Sinhalese villages which are spread over a huge area.
          Thus of the 22 assistant government agents divisions in the Trinco and Ampara districts the Sinhalese constitute the overwhelming majority in in 10 namely, Padavi Siripura,Gomarankadawela,Kantalai, Moraweva and Seruvila in the Trincomalee district and wevgam pattu ,panama pattu and bintennepattu in Ampara district whilst the Tamils constitute majority only in Trincomalee town and Tirikkovil in Amara .
          Thus the Sinhalese constitute the overwhelming majority in about 60% of Trincomalee district and 78% of Ampara district.
          This spartial distribution of the population was not a recent phenomenon caused by so called colonisation but one existed long before any Sinhalese was settled in the North and the East with state assistance is borne out by the findings of Professor G H Peries professor of Geography at Peradeniya university in his paper entitled an appraisal of the concept of the traditional homeland in Sri Lanka.
          Following is part of what he had to say.
          “For the issues with which the present study is concerned, the feature of the crucial relevance borne out by our maps is that in the Eastern Province as a whole in 1921,all the Tamil settlements are confined to a coastal strip barely extending 10 miles from the coast o the interior. The Sinhala settlements on the other hand though comparatively few were scattered over extensive areas of the interior, covering the entirety of the admistrative divisions of Bintenna,Udapalatha,Yati palatha and meda plaltha of wewgam pattu and panama pattuin. In the northern part of the the batticalo and Trincomalee districs were mostly uninhabited /scattered Sinhala settlement.
          This must be taken in the context of the fact that the Sinhalese names of numerous abandoned village tanks marked in our source maps in the inhabited tracts bear testimony to earlier process of de population. Our maps show further that the only non Sinhalese population clusters that were located in 1921 even a few miles to the interior of the seaboard were those associated with the irrigation works restored in the preceding decades. We can also observe that the Tamil settlements nearest to the claimed southern boundary of Kumbukkan oya was a coastal town of mixed population about 35 miles north of that boundary”

          The pattern of settlement distribution assumes significance from several points of view. In the first place considered in the light of our earlier observations on the trends of demographic change in the Preceding centuries the pattern as it prevailed in 1921 represents what may be regarded as the culmination of a long drawn out historical process featured, on the one hand, by territorial advances of the Tamil population and on the other , retreat and recession of the Sinhalese population.
          This , in turn implies that the process of “Tamilization’ in the eastern lowlands of Sri lanka had not penetrated significantly into the interior even at its most extensive territorial spread.
          The second point of significance arise from the fact that, often the “Tamil Homeland” is being defined with reference to the modern administrative units. Given the spatial patterns of ethnicity borne out bu our maps the demand by one ethnic group for exclusive proprietary rights over Provinces and districts encompass extensive tracts of territory which it had never occupied (and much of it, in every sense is the homeland of the other ethnic groups) appears in its true light as one which lacks a rational basis.
          In a functional sense sparsely settled interior of the eastern lowlands of Sri lanka was not a hinterland of the settlement clusters of the littoral. Both the interior as well as the littoral were very largely rural.
          Hence, a core periphery concept is of no relevance to the issue. More specifically, there is no empirical basis for a theoretical assertion that because there was numerical preponderance of the Tamils in the coastal areas , hinterland, areas, regardless of the traditional rights of the other ethnic groups, should form a traditional hinterland of the Tamil areas.
          The fact that the eastern littoral itself is not ethnically homogeneous (Well known but purposely over looked) is also illustrated by our maps with a fair degree of superiority.
          The littoral is as much the traditional homeland of the Muslims as it is of the Tamils. And in many areas , the Muslims constitute the majority which has no common cause with the Tamils and in fact is bitterly opposed to the EAST being MERGED with the NORTH
          Unfortunately for the Tamil secessionists there is not only a Total absence of any shred of evidence any part of the East having being governed by a Tamil King, but does not even have a numerical preponderance which could provide them with the remotest justification that East is part of the Traditional Tamil Homeland.
          There is nothing these secessionist could do about the absence of a claim founded on history but to continue to LIE about it, there was nothing they could do about the absence of a numerical preponderance of Tamils in the east except to UNILATERLY DENY THE SEPERATE ETHNIC IDENTITY OF THE TAMIL SPEAKING MUSLIMS and equally UNILATERLAY ACQUIRE THEM AS PART OF THE FICTITIOUS TRADITIONAL TAMIL HOMELAND, just to give them the NUMERICAL SUPERIORITY; while at the same time alleging falsely that they had been made a minority in their homeland by the COLONISATION of the East with the Sinhalese state assistance

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            I’ll do the courtesy of a brief response since you call for it.
            The experts, history and events you quote do not accord with history. Experts from the Tamil side have rejected these over and over again. KM de Silva was a JRJ favourite because he was ready to “produce instant history” to suit JRs and Athulathmudali’s political ambitions. (Former US Ambassador Howard Wiggins was too late in discovering KM’s chicanery) Both were leaders of the 7/83 pogrom to finish off as many of the Tamils as possible, as we all know. One reason, of course, was he was mad with anger some Tamils voted for Kobbekaduwe in Jaffna in the 1982 Referendum. Lalith A also had history re-written by his friend Gamini Irriyagolle to confuse the Indians in his battle for the post-JRJ Sri Lankan Presidential mantle he was engaged in against Gamini D. These politicians had the day but the country today remains grotesque requiring oxygen because of their short-sighted adventirism. Rs.400 billion is needed for salaries and to meet interest/loans and both sides are accusing each other in
            Parliament for the empty treasury. If the international community does not step in, Sri Lanka will be bankrupt by December.

            Backlash

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            Ravi Perera Sinhala speaking Demela

            Have had time to read these papers?

            Archaeology and Cosmopolitanism in Early Historic and Medieval Sri Lanka
            By R Conningham, M Manuel and C Davis

            The Vijayan Colonization and the Archaeology of Identity in Sri Lanka

            By Coningham, Robin; Lewer, Nick

            Antiquity;Sep2000, Vol. 74 Issue 285, p707 REGIONAL INDEPENDENCE

            AND ELITE CHANGE IN THE POLITICS OF 14th-CENTURY SRI LANKA

            By Ananda S. Kulasuriya

            Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society of Great Britain and Ireland, No. 2 (1976), pp. 136-155

            Please stop humiliating yourself in this forum by not kissing OTC’s bum.

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            Ravi Perera the stupid solicitor,

            “”I am writting something that I have written many many times before. Please read this well and give me your thoughts.””
            Muslims/Sinhala Buddhist are saints born in a coconut shell.
            Boasting about being the only force on earth to beat terrorism.””

            ‘Frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn’

            You believe in SAMSARA!!

            May your genitals sprout wings and fly away!!

            You are debt ridden due to corruption to the core.
            The Americans have trained the Lankan forces continuously and now is the time to show the world what you are made of.

            Now is the pay back time.
            Saudi will clear all your debts and more.

            Analysis: M Ilyas Khan, BBC News, Islamabad
            Saudi Arabia has been a major foreign donor to Pakistan – some say perhaps the third-largest after the US and China.
            Late last year, for example, what finance minister Ishaq Dar initially described as a $3bn (£2bn) “gift from a friendly source” turned out to be Saudi largesse that was used to stabilise a free-falling rupee against the US dollar. Soon afterwards Pakistan officially backed the Saudi position on Syria.
            ____________________
            GO NOW : go to Sana Yemen the gold glitters.

            Lanka government news:
            In an in-depth analysis of the Sri Lankan government’s defeat of the LTTE, the ‘Indian Defence Review’ has identified Eight Fundamentals of Victory.

            These are listed as the ‘Rajapaksa Model of fighting terror’ and are described as:

            • Unwavering political will

            • Disregard for international opinion distracting from the goal

            • No negotiations with the forces of terror

            • Unidirectional floor of conflict information

            • Absence of political intervention to pull away from complete defeat of the LTTE

            • Complete operational freedom for the security forces
            -Let the best men do the task

            • Accent on young commanders

            • Keep your neighbors in the loop

            The July-September 2009 issued ‘Indian Defense Review’ carries a detailed article on the Eight Fundamentals of Victory or the ‘Rajapaksa Model’ of fighting terror by V. K. Shashikumar.
            ______

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        “By the way most sinhalese don’t give a damn about the Tamil opinion” is the final pronouncement of Ravi Perera, who I thought had some of semblance, culture and education in him. By this crude comment he proves he is no more than the average semi-savage that walked the streets of the South in 1958, 1977, 1983 looking for Tamil blood and property. The world has taken careful note of that and knows your veins run with that blood your progenitor Rakshaki Kuveni bequeathed to you is still intact. Your temples carry images of the woman savage. The world judges you by those standards.

        This was the same attitude Sepala Ekanayake and his friends displayed (1983) to a watching world when they ate human flesh and drank blood of dead prisoners in those so called high-security cells. What Buddhism and the democratic culture for savages. Look at that prime example of that rowdy Galagodaathe (?)Gnassara pretending to be a Buddhist. All a disgrace to the human race.

        Backlash

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          backlash

          “The world has taken careful note of that and knows your veins run with that blood your progenitor Rakshaki Kuveni bequeathed to you is still intact.”

          Kuvena has nothing to do with Sinhalese nor with Buddhists. It is one of the wildest imagination of pervert Mahanama.

          Don’t forget the Sinhala/Buddhists also worship Goddess Patini, Ganesha, Skanda, ….

          The savagery you relate here is typical of little islanders, irrespective of their region, religion or race. Changli thug said to have killed more than 300 Christian, LTTE killed many including Tamil, Sinhalese and Muslim. The state, its armed forces and JVP despite being Sinhala/Buddhists killed their own innocent people. Muslim home guards too killed many non Muslims in the East.

          The only difference between these people is the scale of their savagery. A comparative study is needed to establish whose savagery is worst than the other.

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            Dear Native V

            I sure hit a raw nerve when I mentioned that savage doll Kuveni, didn’t I? Sorry, I hate to have someone as learned and interesting as you in my opposite side. But the Sinhalese claim when that gigolo from Bangladesh, Vijaya, dropped in the sex-hungry guy, with many months in the sea without his daily diet of wine and women. He was desperate for action from whatever quarter. And Kuvi was right there with open arms – willing and able to do the needful. The mighty Sinhala race – Lion on side and Kuvi on the other – emerged and have since ruled and ruined the Island, at least most of the South. The Tamils took care of the Central Hills fairly well, I think. Sinhalese owe them a debt of gratitude for that.

            To your list of Hindu deities, please add Bhagwan Sathya Sai Baba as well, a hot favourite now. Converts include the Rajapakse first couple. That is not forgetting Tiruppathi Venketeshwara – and who else wheeler-dealer Tirukumar Nadesan brought in to assure a very long inning?

            BTW, for those who think you are Tamil is your spelling of the Jaffna King Sankili, whom you write as Changli. No Tamil spells it this way. So what?

            Backlash

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              backlash

              I find it amazing that you still cannot avoid Mahawamsa myth. It seems the Mahawamsa myth has conditioned the thinking process of Tamils as well. Therefore both people have stuck in the myth which can only take both people to the bottom and never allow you to think about the future.

              You may call it Kuveini’s curse. I attribute it to self destructive gene both people share with Tamil Nadu Tamils.

              Sankili or Changli you know what I meant. As for others who assume /speculate my origin, I am an authentic Veddah the original son of the land who loves to point out bigotry, racism, injustice, lies,war crimes, exploitation, ………… omission and commission.

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                Native Vedda! May your tribe increase.

                Dr.RN

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                  Dr.Rajasingham Narendran

                  “Native Vedda! May your tribe increase.”

                  My partner will kill me.

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          “Look at that prime example of that rowdy Galagodaathe (?)Gnassara pretending to be a Buddhist. All a disgrace to the human race. “

          When you say “All” you must include Prabhakaran, right ?

          “This was the same attitude Sepala Ekanayake and his friends displayed (1983) to a watching world when they ate human flesh and drank blood of dead prisoners in those so called high-security cells.”

          I know Sepala very well. He was personally responsible for killing Kuttumani. Eating flesh and drinking blood are additions.

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            ravi perera Sinhala Speaking Demela

            “I know Sepala very well. He was personally responsible for killing Kuttumani. Eating flesh and drinking blood are additions.”

            Pardon me for my ignorance, I never knew the Sinhala/Buddhists practiced Cannibalism in this island. Is Cannibalism part of Sinhala Buddhists culture by Hela people from ancient time. You are proud to associate yourself with Cannibals without any remorse.

            The state should investigate whether security forces have been involved in cannibalism as there have been reports of missing people including Sinhalese and Tamil speaking people. Those missing people could have been captured, trafficked and supplied to Cannibals of the South.

            Ravi Perera the Sinhala speaking Demela could solve the mystery of missing people (over 100,000). Are you the leader of the ring?

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            “I know Sepala very well” says Ravi Perera. Does not surprise me.
            Have you heard of the old saying “Show me your friends – and I’ll
            tell you who you are”

            As to his eating human flesh and blood, the comments of that gentleman Superintendent of Prisons (1983) Mr. de Silva, the father of that lawyer-musician, his testified version is different to yours.

            As to if VP is in the list I mentioned – the answer is no. Like many, my position is his reported savagery is what I would call “responsive”

            Backlash

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              “Show me your friends – and I’ll
              tell you who you are”

              Tell me whom you admire I will let you know who you are.

              VP the card board hero (Surrendered only to have part of his head chopped off)seems to be one whom you admire.

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                Ravi Perera

                “VP the card board hero”

                The Sinhala/Buddhist military and political leadership had no shame hiding behind VP’s fat bum even though VP was a cardboard hero (villain, psychopath, terrorists, ….).

                Remember VP fought the war foolishly and saved this island’s sovereignty by kicking the IPKF out of the island while the other coward was shaken, stirred and scared in down South telling the media there was a real danger of Hindian forces invading the South. He did nothing to get the Hindians out of this island. Watch:

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyG8DG49fzU

                In the mean time his brother was burying bodies of innocent people in Matale and elsewhere conveniently opting out of confrontation with the invading IPKF.

                “(Surrendered only to have part of his head chopped off)seems to be one whom you admire”

                Could you cite evidence.

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                Ravi Perera

                “VP the card board hero”

                You forgot to mention another cardboard hero Rohana Wijeyweera, who too surrendered to the brutal security forces, tortured and later was burnt alive in Kanatte.

                So there is no difference between a Tamil psychopath and a Sinhalese one.

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    “”The situation abroad, specifically in India, is also confused. We had expected that after the Presidential elections India would play a helpful moderating role””

    After the 3 yellow submarines by Sinhalese/Muslim government of Lanka.

    After the 10 Lankan muslim/pakistan bombs at Tamil Nadu during the general elections-
    Nadu is south like Gujarat of the Deccan.

    (Pakistan’s parliament has decided against military involvement in the Saudi-led coalition fighting Houthi rebels in Yemen, after days of debate.)

    Pan_Arab Vs Pan Islam playing high stakes in Asia the lucrative foreign place for Muslim polygamy.

    Go to mecca moron- your age is calling on you.

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      Mus

      Say hello to Javi for me please.

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        Native Vedda

        Ask ranil the PM to shoot Indian fishermen because they are not allowed to carry GPS/Cell phones because of Muslim terrorist in the region- after Bombay attack.

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    Izeth Hussain:

    “But Prime Minister Modi recommended going beyond 13A, even to federalism, and the NPC Chief Minister immediately took that as a warrant for demanding that we go that far. I feel that certain facts should be brought to the Indian Government’s notice. 13A is the result of an agreement reached in 1987. If India wants us to go beyond 13A it will be seen as violating an international agreement, and also as bullying a small regional neighbor. On both counts it will be declaring itself as unfit to be made a Permanent Member of the Security Council.

    The 13A has remained as a statute in name and paper only. How dubious a joker you should be in citing the 13A as an agreement reached in 1987 and going on to admit it as an international agreement. If you believe in the sanctity of that agreement, pray tell me aren’t you and have you not been violating that agreement since its passage by not implementing in full that agreement, including land and police powers. The crafty fox that you are expect us to believe your sanity only to stand debunked by your forked tongue. May be SL and you may have a point if the 13A had implemented in full. Perhaps, India may not have the necessity to look at it again had SL followed the letter.

    Why are you such a chatter that Modi spoke in Hindi in Jaffna and then put your own dots. Suddenly, in the bright stars hovering above your head, there somehow seems to be a hindutva connection. One should not be faulted in seeing the seething turmoil in you being a Muslim, and that may explain the burning sensation that seems to lit up your sensitivity to an allergic proportion. Well Izeth, you can take comfort in your bosom pal DJ who have take the right of MR and most probably you are his left.

    The removal of the army and retention of a reasonable number in the North is an issue that has been raised again and again by TNA since the end of the war. You don;t have to put a new twist to it, as there aren’t any. The disruption to normal life has been widely highlighted.

    You are too naive about Indian politics. Congress paid a heavy price by listening to MR. If Modi had walked up to the SL Parliament and had talked about federalism, it is not simply what he wants. Yes, the Union govt will not obviously dance to all the tunes emanating from Tamilnadu but no Union leader will take chances in dismissing its presence. It is the Tamilnadu factor that made Modi speak up and this will continue and Wigneswaran is perfectly and soundly right in expecting India to be the guarantor, what more that all the agreements the SL regimes entered into with the Tamils were never honoured. You invited this situation and what is the use of now crying foul. Although you may see India as a bully, the proper perspective will be to give a smack for a belligerent and badly behaved child who would like to stay put with a kindergarten mentality.

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      stupid you only know your sarema not Indian culture or its policy- you are living in the anglo_punjabi loud mouth guttural sounds.

      We at india still laugh at the lungi fellas not because they are Dravidian but tutukuddi cowards.

      If not for maverick Jetamalani the court would not have been ordered to stay the verdict till the 15th.
      TN annas don’t think like you as they have functioned from 47 without center help as the center was always bogged down in punjabi /Pakistani soup.
      When VP murdered Rajiv to order JJ ignored Tamils of Jaffna but once both have been destroyed she accepted JT’s and made the mistake.
      It was Sonia’s son’s call for justice that made the sky fall on Tamils at lanka just after his speech at Nadu.
      JJ released the prisoners but the SC stopped it – that is the nadu power. porriki jansee you are no Jat but arrogant coconut/Palmyra head
      Keep your head in the sand like the ostrich.
      Not suprisingly anyone who associates with JT’s gpoes to ail or get killed- the slimy bastards

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        Maratha

        Please say hello to Javi.

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          anti indian,tanglish speaking
          Go to Andaman (listening point from Maratha empire untouched; even Bose hid there) with your folk ask your [Edited out]

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            Mora

            Did Tamil Film star Sivaji Ganeshan’s ancestors come from Maratha?

            Please find out from Javi.

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              unfortunately, cT like you are poorly when it comes to indian culture,
              when we talk of JJ they think politically but when you see her candid interview with Simi the actress(on utube) you get to know her as a human from Karnataka.
              I only seen Ganesha as an actor however the Bombay screen had better and so many- like in Bombay meri hai etc difficult to choose.
              Bom bom bom bombay meri haiThis version is sung by ‘The Jetliners’ of Sri Lanka! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo21FQNvL4A
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlAOZrst6fQ
              Please ask your elders how wonderful it would be like to operate from listening post with Indian Air force parapet wall to guard your 3 dozen administrative wing of native veddhas to transfer knowledge to the 60k year old andamanese- if anyone touches them they fall sick like the Arawak.

              TN is a workshop for spares like Chinese and don’t spend time on politicos of reagan ear- Reagan was hoodwinked by 2 southern fascist Portugal, Spain, and of course JR with a Hindu elephant present
              The Italians after 14 years of waiting did get Hannibal’s war elephants drunk to their gore and Italian glory.

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            “Please say hello to Javi.”
            Javi would like to share this message of Tea with you once he returns from Fuerteventura:
            Why are you jealous of India not Hindi (carries all what’s wrong the Mughals bought with them- conflicts sharia law) except a medium of communication Padukone, the daughter of the badminton player Prakash Padukone, was born in Copenhagen and raised in Bangalore. rank among the highest-grossing Bollywood films of all time
            Chennai Express- “Lungi Dance”
            Kashmir Main Tu Kanyakumari – Chennai Express
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M34QkLRx49A

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        Maratha:

        I had an issue in replying to your comment. I believe that the Marathas are honourable people but your horrible English and gutter talk is plainly that of a dump. I never realised that Jetalamani has been that close to you and had whispered to you that you seem to have become the spokesperson for Jetalamani but unfortunately I don’t really know whether he would readily admit that you are that “cultured” person you profess to be. Poor Jetalamani, he must be fuming to have such a dumphead as his “whisperer”.

        Another piece of advice. Since you seem to think so high of Jetalamani and you also seem to think he owns India, you must be brave enough to tell him to stand in any election in Tamilnadu in any of the seat. Then I can humbly admit that you are a person of substance and guts but let us see whether you run away with your tails in between your legs.

        I am glad that Jetalamani sought to intervene through the legal system. Everyone has that right but the fact that there has been a legal recourse, unlike the you behaving like a bandit, there shouldn’t be an issue. Let the courts decide.

        When you write “We at india still laugh at the lungi fellas not because they are Dravidian but tutukuddi cowards” you are talking Modi’s India or your India? What a fool you are to claim as if India belongs to one person and that too a bandit like you. Haven’t they cleaned the country of the bandits like you.

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          “” I believe that the Marathas are honourable people but your horrible English and gutter talk is plainly that of a dump.””

          presumably, English is your second yours is no secret.
          have you ever heard of Pidgin English, pin yin, presumably you have no vocabulary like most Lankets who are used to studying from guides and past questions. I have never heard of `horrible English` but people and animals with a horrible attitudes.

          Anyway get this into your coconut head : read not to contradict or confute nor to believe and take for granted but to way and consider- F.B.

          Bell curve IQ for 90% of lankans is <50 I suppose you are a product of free night school product with arty farty subjects.

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            Presumptions, assumptions…, and a fool who does not know the difference between literal, figurative or even colloquial speech. No wonder the rapist culture is rampant. Need I say more.

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              “”and a fool who does not know the difference between literal, figurative or even “”
              you dont even know that sihala and tamil have no colour difference – where the world pecking order is colour.
              It speaks volumes of your pedigree.
              Offshot!!!
              tamil women were only kissed and thrown naked into the trucks like dogs by David blacker-
              another one part of their culture as the army rightly says- live in the ghetto boy- LYyin LTTE animals.
              India can never forget your treachery.
              JJ is feeling the BITE siZe.
              Presumptios characters trying to masrtrubate in view of european support to start belching and farting is the general european view of both the tamils and sihala.

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          “” When you write “We at india still laugh at the lungi fellas not because they are Dravidian but tutukuddi cowards” you are talking Modi’s India or your India? What a fool you are to claim as if India belongs to one person and that too a bandit like you. Haven’t they cleaned the country of the bandits like you. “”

          What did you eat smell old sambhar for free??
          Guilty conscious pricks a mile.
          Sarong karaya is a typical rebuke to villagers who come to settle at colombo. lungi walla porriki. shit belongs to native folk not the mixed bullshit idiots of conquests constantly at war to hide their identity- that is the message NaMo heralds.
          you are soft down there because you are seated on your brains if any.

          I dont need to think about Jetamalini as much as I did not have to think about Nani P to the suprise of Indians on this site from TN.
          It’s just we have known him from the days of his Pakistani birth like Musharraf (old delhi) or Manmohan(west punjab)

          You are the average unemployed troll bud -in a site for 21 million (0.30% of world population)begging bowl nation- with an IQ below <50. While India is almost 18%

          Ha ha ha keep your head in the sand like the ostrich.

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      Demela Jansee,

      As anyone one commentator like Sumanasiri- all these Tamils are LTTE Rump.
      India & Europe now see it same way.
      Wiggie can recite his mantrams untill his twlight years comes to an end- the people are the same & can neverb change like the Irish- Gun and Justice does not resemble the Gallant Scots who kept the English Crown on 2 occasions fought on their behalf and handed it over as friends. Remember they are of the same colour and speak the same language effectively as other and similar in culture.

      _____
      Europe’s new Foreign Secretary has just copied this bit of information and extended the ban-
      It is good for Europe- but they must also extend it into other acts of money laundering.
      “The LTTE, even after its military defeat in May 2009 in Sri Lanka, has not abandoned the concept of ‘Eelam’ and has been clandestinely working towards the ‘Eelam’ cause by undertaking fund raising and propaganda activities in Europe.

      The remnant LTTE leaders or cadres have also initiated efforts to regroup the scattered activists and resurrect the outfit locally and internationally,” read the 2012 notification, adding that the Tamil chauvinist groups and pro-LTTE groups continued to foster a separatist tendency amongst the masses and enhance the support base for LTTE in India and particularly in Tamil Nadu.

      The notification also mentioned that the Diaspora continued to spread through articles in the Internet portals, anti-India feeling amongst the Sri Lankan Tamils by holding the top Indian political leaders and bureaucrats responsible for the defeat of the LTTE. “Such propaganda through Internet, which remains continued, is likely to impact VVIP security adversely in India,” it said.

      The MHA justified the extension of ban in 2012 stating that the Central Government had “information that the activities of the LTTE remnant cadres, dropouts, sympathisers, supporters who have been traced out recently in the State of Tamil Nadu suggest that the cadres sent to Tamil Nadu would ultimately be utilised by the LTTE for unlawful activities”.

      http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/ban-on-ltte-extended-for-five-years/article6012768.ece
      http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/south-asia/sri-lanka-bans-ltte-15-other-tamil-diaspora-groups/article5858831.ece
      _____
      Lankan Tamils We can do :`Without You` (My Fair Lady)

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    jansee

    “Why are you such a chatter that Modi spoke in Hindi in Jaffna and then put your own dots.”

    Perhaps the beginning of Hindianisation of the entire island starting from the North. Hindutva is a distant dream which will never take root in this island. However Hindianisation is imminent.

    “Congress paid a heavy price by listening to MR.”

    Oh please!!!!!!!!!

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      “However Hindianisation is imminent. “

      It was always Sanskrit and Hinduism that was eroded by the Islamist conquerors that the Deccan rulers fought- Modi is a script and most of the administrative procedures were written in Modi script.
      Hindi is Persian mixed with Sanskrit- it is impossible dream.

      Hindianisation – So that the Turks and Iranians can have a say in Asia because they are not wanted by Europe- cultures differ.
      Hindianisation then the Deccan would loose its clout at the center to the loud mouth Punjabi/Jat.

      Does Asia need the Muslim crusaders??
      Does lanka need sinhala or tamil to communicate with the outside world??
      Speak to the Chinese in Mandarin and the terms are better.
      as it stands today- Speak to the Indian in Hindi and you end up with duplicates .

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      NV:

      With the history of Buddhism, call it export/import, anything can be possible. Well, the time and age may pose problems of its own but who would have ever thought of “parippu” dropping from the sky. I mistook them for rockets.

      My perspective was in relation to Tamilnadu. Not only Congress was wiped out, quite a number who stood under the banner even lost their deposits. While there may have been other issues for the revolt against Congress, the primary reason was the SL factor, particularly the knowledge that Congress and MR were sharing the same bed.

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        jansee

        “My perspective was in relation to Tamilnadu. Not only Congress was wiped out, quite a number who stood under the banner even lost their deposits”

        I urge you revisit Thamil Nadu election again. The Sri Lankan issue didn’t even make a small dent in the campaign. The votes were caste based on domestic issues for the most part corruption, family rule, and relatively corruption free JJ’s rule. The Congress was relying on DMK for support.

        If you believe in Seeman, Vaiko, and the other lunatic fringe you will believe in anything.

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          Native Vedda:

          “If you believe in Seeman, Vaiko, and the other lunatic fringe you will believe in anything.”

          Never mind that I never mentioned any of these names, but the lunacy in you had to dig out from your depraved mind to shoot wildly but I forgive you for that. It may come with the territory. Notwithstanding, despite vigorous campaigning by BJP and its Tamilnadu partners, and devoid of the issues you have cited, it managed only two seats. And coming to JJ, she was constantly going for the SL jugular. On of the primary issues raised during her campaign was the SL issue. It is not I but you who should revisit to refresh your mind. JJ is a smart politician and she knows where to place her cards. The SL regime was a primary target for her.

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            Jansee/

            “”but the lunacy in you had to dig out from your depraved mind to shoot wildly but I forgive you for that. It may come with the territory.””

            “” What a fool you are to claim as if India belongs to one person and that too a bandit like you. Haven’t they cleaned the country of the bandits like you. “

            So everyone is a mad prick while you are unable to swim in the mud hole of economic strife, racial/religious blight???

            “”I believe that the Marathas are honourable people “”

            We are different from your concept.
            Firstly, we know who we are.
            Next our military might is well known at India and England museum archives.- The only martial race equivalent to our British artillery quote from General Hasting (not the GG) Never fight them alone- like a Bruce lee with 2 butterfly swords. one to chop the head in 2 and the other to sever the neck from the shoulder in one go of any crusader.

            When you get get a lathi charge like what Gota got (he studied at madras for an MSc but his concept of India was short like the sarema/lungi) don’t blame the world that it is mad – Better you become cannibal in ambude- less worry.

            Another Stupid Bansee/Pansee like Off The Nut chuff chuff..

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      ““Congress paid a heavy price by listening to MR.” Oh please!!!!!!!!! “

      That man/woman sounds like count-quackola.
      India urban population- 32% Lanka 14% India world population 18% Lanka 0.30%
      Listen to the sound of music “Do-Re-Mi”- Julie Andrews.
      or Abba `thank you for the music`.

      Surprised RM’s wife did not make him another voodoo doctor like dr Jansee.
      Bandi paining… bandi paining.. banda coming..

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    Mr Hussein is entitled to his views. However, his solutions and logic sound an awful lot like Dayan Jayatelike’s and that is because his underlying world view is the same, which can be encapsulated as:
    i) the majority (read mob) is all that matters in finding a solution in Sri Lanka;
    ii) realpolitik or the power of force is all that matters and with Tamil militancy vanquished the Tamils are luck to get anything at all

    In the modern world neither of these paradigms are true. If one looks at Kosovo, East Timor and Aceh as contemporary examples one would understand that. Sadly Mr Hussein isn’t able to look beyond his parameters outlined above and so he will continue to cite his solutions. Fortunately for the Tamils they understand that soft power matters today and the worlds soft power is with them.

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      Alex – How on earth have you come to equate me with Dayan J? He is capable of brilliant insights, and I certainly share some of his views. But we are in essentials poles apart. He is a devotee of MR. I kept on attacking MR for being a racist neo-Fascist, racist towards both the Muslims and Tamils. I support Sirisena/RW.
      I can’t imagine how you have come to attribute to me views at 1 and 2 of your response. In a recent article I wrote that the only way Sri Lanka can come through unscathed is by occupying the moral high ground. I have written several times on the importance of morality in politics – for instance a two-part article in 2006 which you can access by clicking on Izeth Hussain’s reply to Arvind.
      Do you really find my proposed solution objectionable? I have written several times that we can give any amount of devolution without that leading by itself to separation. I am not against land and police powers. But the Sinhalese side is against it and therefore it’s not practical politics. So, let’s implement the rest of 13A as thoroughly as possible together with a fully functioning democracy as in the West. I may be mistaken in thinking that that will lead to a solution. But why should it provoke a storm of hatred, which in the case of the Tamils has behind it a terrible anti-Muslim racism – IH

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        “” I am not against land and police powers. “””

        Who in India cares what a Pakistani bomber thinks- you have no land or language in common.

        In their presence Modi spoke in Hindi because folk do watch Hindi movies.
        If he spoke in Gujarati it would have been better as me would have seen a translator (this is common elsewhere.)
        In any case it was great that he did not speak in English the language of `tragedy` (the bard and his 7 tragedies) while Indians think and the world thinks too.

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    With oldage and memory loss this old man is going revertting to the Suck up to yhe Sinhalese line.lt does not matter if a few mosques get burnt snd a few muslims get murdred.

    One way to suck up is to attack Tamil polity.

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    “…. Perhaps the most important fact that we have to bear in mind is that we have a Tamil ethnic problem only because of India. If not for the Tamil Nadu factor the Tamils will simply be treated as a conquered people, and the rest of the world won’t bother about them. Therefore our first priority should be to persuade the Modi Government to change course in its Sri Lanka policy. I feel sure that there is serious dissent among Indian decision-makers and opinion-makers about what looks like a Hindutva-inspired policy towards Sri Lanka. In concrete terms, it should be made clear that Prime Minister Modi was engaging in personal reminiscences and he meant no more than to assure the Sri Lankans that however far we go in devolution there would be no danger to Sri Lanka’s political unity and territorial integrity. That means that there is no warrant at all for the Tamils to demand anything more than 13A. If that is done, it should be possible to reach a political solution by the end of the year. We must bear in mind that the TNA leader Sampanthan has the reputation of being a moderate equipped with great political ability.”

    I fully agree that we have a Tamil ethnic problem only because of India.I would add the proximity factor to it. Look at the situation in respect of other countries where Indians/Tamils form sizable minorities and even majority as in Fiji who are also in control of trade unions where they formed the government until the strongman in the armed forces, a true native Fijian, ousted the government by force. Was India able to influence the situation except making some noises in Lok Sabha which were not heard beyond the walls of the building, not to speak of exerting any pressure through the international community. India is using the advantageous situation arising from geographic proximity for hegemonic purposes in Sri Lanka and meet her strategic needs. That is the crux of the matter.

    it is sad to see the dialogue has deviated from the essence and come down to base level. It is however, refreshing to see Native Vedda has not forgotten me even after a longtime.He has associated my name with Michael Roberts as the two Gurus of Darshanee Ratnawalli who figured prominently in these columns. What honour/pleasure to be associated with an intellectual like Michel and a comely lass like Darshanee!Hope Darshanee will pardon me for the remark and not referring to her intellectual abilities.
    Bandu de Silva

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      “”What honour/pleasure to be associated with an intellectual like Michel and a comely lass like Darshanee!”2

      Try writing at age concern they would love to hear from you why there are no tram cars, gas pipe lines etc at Colombo 11 your uncles Hal kadde.

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      Bandu

      ” It is however, refreshing to see Native Vedda has not forgotten me even after a longtime.”

      Not so long ago you offered me a job in your household as a domestic servant. I am still awaiting your letter of appointment and contract of employment. I am grateful to you for your offer however I am disappointed with you for not honoring your words, albeit in writing. You may have forgotten about your promise completely. I don’t blame you for that, I do understand it is to do with your age and nothing to do with your good intentions.

      By the way you seem to love strong men and have fetish for them. The 1987 coup in Fiji was engineered by USA. The coup specialist General Vernon Walters was seen with Military strong man Sitiveni Rabuka days before the coup.

      The moral of the story is that small countries should learn to live with big powers that posses the ability to destroy the entire country many times over. This where diplomacy comes in and help to reduce the scale of destruction. In this island’s case both the diplomats and the leadership failed and failed miserably.

      You possess a cavalier attitude which is typical of a little islander.

      As an old man you should be imbibing wisdom in leadership of this island and advising them to do the right thing and treat the people well instead keeping yourself busy in the parochial partition politics which has brought misery to the people.

      One should age gracefully.

      Age does not guarantee wisdom.

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    Izeth Hussein,
    You mentioned that NPC CM passed a resolution about the Tamil Genocide and also agreed with Nesiah on his positions. I hope you and Nesiah read what the Pope said half an hour ago declaring the Armenians massacre a 100 years ago a Genocide.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32272604

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      Nothing new to folk of the Deccan – never trust crusaders but know the history of great neighbour before playing state politics like Seeman and Vaiko and drinking 3 times Moru.

      In 590 B.C., Byzantium was destroyed by the Persians. It was later rebuilt by the Spartans, and then fought over by Athens and Sparta until 336 B.C. From 336 to 323 B.C., it was under the control of the famous Greek general, Alexander the Great. After the death of Alexander, Byzantium finally regained its independence. The Byzantine Empire existed for nearly 1,125 years, and it’s one of the greatest empires of all time. Yet many people know little about it, other than the word “byzantine” being synonymous for highly intricate, complex, and devious dealings.
      The Mughal Empire self-designated as Gurkani (Persian: گورکانیان‎, Gūrkāniyān),[6] was a Persianate[7][8] empire extending over large parts of the Indian subcontinent and ruled by a dynasty of Mongol and Chagatai-Turkic origin.[ The Mughal emperors were Central Asian Turko-Mongols, who claimed direct descent from both Genghis Khan (through his son Chagatai Khan) and Timur. The “classic period” of the empire started in 1556 with the ascension of Akbar the Great to the throne.
      The same period 1498 the Europeans came to India from the sea- South West & South East.
      It’s the British who handed over power to the Punjabi/Kashmiri India, because they feared the Marathas of the Deccan Plateau. Roosevelt created Pakistan East & West to get back at Russia another day because the west has never beaten Russia in its entire history.
      Modi is Maratha Empire and its Administrative tools were written in Modi Script. JT’s are stupid fools not seeing the Hindu/Sanskrit wars to evict all invaders only by the Maratha.
      British Historian P. Spear termed the year 1818 of The Third Anglo-Maratha War as the “Watershed” year in the History of India. He wrote on the importance of 1818:
      “In that year the British dominion in India became the British dominion of India.”[57][58]
      Shivaji was an able administrator who established a government that included modern concepts such as cabinet, foreign affairs and internal intelligence.[citation needed] He established an effective civil and military administration. He believed that there was a close bond between the state and the citizens. He is remembered as a just and welfare-minded king. Cosme da Guarda says about Shivaji in ‘Life of the Celebrated Sevaji’:[65]
      Such was the good treatment Shivaji accorded to people and such was the honesty with which he observed the capitulations that none looked upon him without a feeling of love and confidence. By his people he was exceedingly loved. Both in matters of reward and punishment he was so impartial that while he lived he made no exception for any person; no merit was left unrewarded, no offence went unpunished; and this he did with so much care and attention that he specially charged his governors to inform him in writing of the conduct of his soldiers, mentioning in particular those who had distinguished themselves, and he would at once order their promotion, either in rank or in pay, according to their merit. He was naturally loved by all men of valor and good conduct.
      However, the later Marathas are remembered more for their military campaigns, not for their administration. Hindu right historians have criticised the treatment of Marathas with Jats and Rajputs. Historian K Roy writes:
      “The treatment of Marathas with their co-religionist fellows – Jats and Rajputs was definitely unfair, and ultimately they had to pay its price in Panipat where Muslim forces had united in the name of religion.”[25]

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        alican

        thanks for the history lessons of byzantine and india,but the article is about tiny srilanka known for cricket and tea only.

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          you never heard of aesoep fables and how it is seen in present day.
          Stupid Croak-et drinking hot croako.

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        and Alican please don’t try to divert our attention when we are all(except the other thompson twin ravi perera)enjoying bashing izeth hussein/thompson who is finding it difficult to concentrate on his italian opera while mud and rotten eggs are thrown at him.

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          divert attention from over grown idiots time wasters like toddlers wasting time – playing hora police. better you go mad.
          (Al Gore-most folk in the US really did not take into account the fact that there were an awful lot of South Vietnamese who desperately wanted to hang on to what they called freedom. Coming face to face with those sentiments expressed by people – result of his time as a journalist, as he realized that while he could expose corruption, he could not change it.)

          time and tide awaits no man- let the lying lion forces earn something big by going to Sana Yemen (don`t let the muslims contract for 90% will go in their pocket)
          Send the base ball wielding gay boy Foreign minister to fix the deal with saudi – money makes the world spin and start thinking afresh.Wonder of Asia can give it the old college try.

          Let the tamils then count their blessings – job being done- hora police- the prince of UNHRC is Pan_Islam and he would love you both Sinhala Tamil and get the lankan muslims to look at better job/business than meddling with religious wars.)

          Dudley Senanayaka the ladies man who gave away citizenship to suddhu pukka marrakala and caused the multinational control of the island precursor to Sirma-Banda -Kumaratunge #Nasser pan_arab Stalinism (totalitarianism, ending personal liberty and democracy as we know it) which thrived only in a democracy by hoodwinking Dutchman Roosevelt Democrat
          We are once again at Soviet Crimea,

          After Roosevelt’s death, an editorial by The New York Times declared, “Men will thank God on their knees a hundred years from now that Franklin D. Roosevelt was in the White House”

          The man who first made the mother of all weapons the Dutchman in a wheel chair democrat misused by corrupt PresidentTruman (initially anti-corruption; typical with hunters and wild life protectors)

          On the home front on June 25, 1941, Roosevelt signed Executive Order 8802, forbidding discrimination on account of “race, creed, color, or national origin” in the hiring of workers in defense related industries.[278] This was a precursor to Title VII of the Civil Rights Act to come decades later.[279]

          By the beginning of 1945, however, with the Allied armies advancing into Germany and the Soviets in control of Poland, the postwar issues came into the open. In February, Roosevelt traveled to Yalta, in Soviet Crimea, to meet again with Stalin and Churchill. While Roosevelt maintained his confidence that Stalin would keep his Yalta promises regarding free elections in eastern Europe, one month after Yalta ended, Roosevelt’s Ambassador to the USSR Averell Harriman cabled Roosevelt that “we must come clearly to realize that the Soviet program is the establishment of totalitarianism, ending personal liberty and democracy as we know it.”[243] Two days later, Roosevelt began to admit that his view of Stalin had been excessively optimistic and that “Averell is right.”[243]
          During March 1945, he sent strongly worded messages to Stalin accusing him of breaking his Yalta commitments over Poland, Germany, prisoners of war and other issues. When Stalin accused the western Allies of plotting a separate peace with Hitler behind his back, Roosevelt replied: “I cannot avoid a feeling of bitter resentment towards your informers, whoever they are, for such vile misrepresentations of my actions or those of my trusted subordinates.”[260]

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    Why Izeth Hussain who lives in Dehiwela enjoying his retirement wants to deny both police and land powers to the NPC enshrined in 13A? Who is he to tell the Thamil people what is good or bad for them? While he uses his pen to lash at Mosque/Business stores burning Sinhala – Buddhist mobs led by saffron robed Buddhist monks, he is singing a different tune when it coma’s to the land rights of Thamil people. He is in good company with Dr.Dayan Jayatilleka an arch racist and Sinhala supremacist. After the war the Sinhala army has grabbed thousands of acres of private lands owned by the Thamil people for security zones. As for Police powers, he should know that in Canada there are three levels of police force down to a Municipality. Public-sector police forces are associated with and commissioned to the three levels of government: municipal, provincial, and federal. Most urban areas have been given the authority by the provinces to maintain their own police force. Some, such as the Toronto Police Service and the Service de police de la Ville de Montréal are commissioned to one particular city, Toronto and Montréal, respectively, while the Niagara Regional Police services all cities comprising the Regional Municipality of Niagara. All but three of Canada’s provinces in turn, contract out their provincial law-enforcement responsibilities to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (popularly known as the Mounties), the national police force, which is commissioned to the federal level of government. In addition, many First Nation’s Reserves have their own police forces established through agreements between the governing Native Band, province and the federal government. It is time Hussain grows up.

    As for the preposterous claim of 2,500 years of Sinhala – Buddhist history, there was no Sinhala identity till the 8th century AD. Even according to the Mahavamsa the kings who ruled from Anuradhapura were predominantly Nagas with a sprinkling of Thamils. Duttu Gemenu is a Naga prince both from his paternal and maternal sides. His great great grandfather was Hindu Thamil by the name Muthusivan, father of Devanampiya Theesan the first convert to Buddhism. The War between Duttu Gemenu and Ellalan is not a war between Thamils and Sinhalese, it was a war between Hindu Thamils and Buddhist Nagas. Before reaching Anuradhapura from Ruhuna in the south Duttu Gemenu fought and defeated 32 Thamil sub-kings on his way. Kavantissa the father of Duttu Gemenu tells his two sons that on the other side of the river (Mahaveli) are people by Thamils.

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    I think, We lankans are the only people wasting a lot of their time talking, writing and arguing about old rotten ancient stories, whether they are true, false or myth. What’s the point in discussing and arguing about these old histories ? Every one has a different and conflicting story to tell.
    It’s better to do something useful to oneself and the country as a whole. Look at other countries who prospered by adopting practical solutions without wasting time about who came to Lanka first or last or whose religion and language is the oldest. See how these Asian neighbors are doing well and developing fast. Leave Izeth [Edited out] and his crap to himself and grow up people.

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      bravo

      you have a point there.we should look more toward the future than the past.South asians are big talkers,not workers,hence in competitiveness rankings

      singapore-2nd
      japan-6th
      hong kong-7th
      taiwan-13th
      malaysia-20th
      south korea-26th
      china-28th
      thailand-31
      indonesia-34
      philipines-52
      india-71
      srilanka-73
      i won’t bother with pak,bangladesh and nepal

      south asians are one big jaw,jaw and jaw,squabble,squabble and more squabble.One day hopefully a strong leader will emerge to shake them out of their culture and slumber.Will it be modi?

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    Thangan,

    “As for the preposterous claim of 2,500 years of Sinhala – Buddhist history, there was no Sinhala identity till the 8th century AD. Even according to the Mahavamsa the kings who ruled from Anuradhapura were predominantly Nagas with a sprinkling of Thamils. Duttu Gemenu is a Naga prince both from his paternal and maternal sides. His great great grandfather was Hindu Thamil by the name Muthusivan, father of Devanampiya Theesan the first convert to Buddhism. The War between Duttu Gemenu and Ellalan is not a war between Thamils and Sinhalese, it was a war between Hindu Thamils and Buddhist Nagas. “

    Wether the current Sinhala identity evolved in the 8th century AD or not is irrelevant. Sri Lanka is the country that gave birth to the Sinhala culture.The original Hela Tribes known as Naga,Yaksha, Raksha etc evolved into a race called Sinhala with an input from North/South Indian migrants. Wether you call it Hela or Sinhala it is the same people at a different stage of the evolution process. This is not something unique to Sinhala culture. Almost all cultures evolve. In another 2500 yrs Sinhalese will be known as by another name.

    But I am sure the Tamils will remain Tamils as always.

    Wether Dutugemunu was a Naga or another hela tribe is unknown. There are some Tamils who belive king Dutugemunu is a Tamil. Your jokes are better.

    “Kavantissa the father of Duttu Gemenu tells his two sons that on the other side of the river (Mahaveli) are people by Thamils. “

    The Tamils the Dutugemunus father is talking about here are no differet to the Protugees, Dutch and British Rulers.

    Tamils living in Sri Lanka are no different to the minority races in Eurpean countries. You can come up with all kinds of theories to show the ownership of this beautiful country. wether you can get it by force(Difeated badly in 2009) or by convincing the international community is the million dollar question.

    Izeth Hussain, you like many Muslims (Some of the best deep penetrating unit soldiers were Muslims) who helped us defeat the barbaric LTTE should be commended. Gnanasara dog of Booru Balu sena has failed to drive a wedge between the Muslims and the Sinhalese.

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      ravi perera Sinhala speaking Demela

      “Sri Lanka is the country that gave birth to the Sinhala culture.”

      Seriously, what is the Sinhala Culture?

      “Almost all cultures evolve. In another 2500 yrs Sinhalese will be known as by another name. “

      May be, they will be known as Hindi speaking Demelas/ThamSinhala, Demela speaking Hindians, Tham-nglish speaking Demelas, Sinh-glish speaking Sinhalese, ThamSinglish, …… and there are numerous possibilities yet they will remain as self destructive as before.

      All because they share the same gene as their Tamil brethren in Tamil Nadu.

      There is also another possibility, that another Hitler would accept/recognise them as Aryans as the Homeless one Anagarika Dharmapala longed for.

      ” Tamils living in Sri Lanka are no different to the minority races in Eurpean countries.”

      Of course the Demelas are minority in Europe just as the Sinhala/Buddhists are in South Asia. There are Roman enclave in Pakistan and Afghanistan. The people are thought to be Roman descendants.

      Similarly One possibility is that descendants of Sinhala/Tamil speaking people in this island could be marginalised and form an enclave of Trilingual people. Epigraphists and Historians will find this island interesting at the same time hard to construct the history of the people who perished and marginalised by their own stupidity. If they are lucky they might find Ravi Perea a Sinhala speaking Demela’s name prominently featured in CT comments section who was thought to have been the real reason behind the demise of Sinhala/Buddhists in this island.

      Read this:

      The Lost Children of Alexander the Great: A Journey to the Pagan Kalash People of Pakistan

      Excerpt

      The New York Times recently published an article that had a fascinating description of the Kalash, an ancient ethnic group living high in the remote mountains of Pakistan’s Hindu Kush. For centuries this light-skinned, pagan people have claimed to be the long-lost descendants of Alexander the Great’s world-conquering armies, which invaded this region in the fourth century B.C. The animist Kalash are outwardly different from the darker-skinned Pakistani Muslims who live in the lowlands below them, so it seemed plausible. However, there had been no proof of this remarkable claim until the geneticists quoted in The New York Times found that the Kalash people’s DNA seems to indicate that they had an infusion of European blood during a “mixing event” at roughly the time of Alexander’s conquests. This isolated people are thus most likely the direct descendants of the ancient Greek-Macedonian armies who set up outposts in this region 2,300 years ago.

      04/23/2014

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com

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