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The Two Difficulties In Countering Wahabism In Sri Lanka

By Izeth Hussain

Izeth Hussain

Izeth Hussain

After Islamic fundamentalism? – part 2

Before proceeding further I want to explain the title of this article, more specifically the question mark placed on it. By Islamic fundamentalism is today meant Wahabism and its clones. There are Wahabis who claim that what Wahab taught was one thing and that what. Wahabism has meant in practice is quite another. That is true to some extent, but it is a question that need not detain us because it remains that at the core of what Wahab taught is the tenet that those who don’t accept what Wahab taught – including orthodox Muslims and Shias – should all be declared apostate and be killed. Another core tenet is that the veneration accorded to the shrines of saints and monuments in the holy places of Islam amounts to shirk, polytheism, which is the one unpardonable sin according to orthodox theologians. They should be killed and those monuments be destroyed.

Wahabism holds therefore that the millions and millions and millions of Muslims who led pious Islamic lives as orthodox Muslims and Shias down the centuries will all be consigned to eternal hell-fire. It is impossible to believe that so perverse a version of Islam can possibly have staying power. Unsurprisingly over the two and a half centuries of its existence Wahabism has been no more than a minority cult, and it remains so today despite all the oil billions spent to propagate it. Even within Saudi Arabia, where Wahabism is the official version of Islam, only twenty five per cent are Wahabis. Why then have I placed a question mark over the title of this article, implying that it could have staying power?

I must make some clarifications at this point. The fundamentalist drive to return to the roots in order to seek self-renewal or the renewal of a society is something that has to be respected. I have argued the case earlier, using as illustrative material two iconic American art-works, Fred Zinneman’s film High Noon and Martha Graham’s ballet Appalachian Spring. But Islamic fundamentalism in the form of Wahabism is something else: a monstrous perversion of Islam that cannot have much staying power. However it could prove to be a hardy plant in some places, like a spiky rebarbative cactus with those unIslamic black burqas and other horrors. The explanation might be found in a sage observation of the great Einstein: there are only two infinite things, the universe and human stupidity, and Einstein wasn’t sure about the universe. However in the Islamic world as a whole Wahabism will surely come to be regarded as an aberrant form of Islam with an appeal only to a tiny proportion of Muslims who are afflicted with deep psychological problems. I will add one more reason for that expectation, in addition to the ones I have touched on earlier. There are five million Muslims in France and many more million Muslims in other Western countries. How many of them wear the burqa showing they are in sympathy with Wahabism? An infinitesimal proportion of them only. I take that as proof definitive, beyond rational dispute, that Wahabism in the Afro-Asian countries is the product of social coercion backed by the petro-dollar.

However Wahabism is not going to disappear overnight. About two decades ago Olivier Roy, one of the two best-known Islamologists in France – the other is Gilles Kepel- predicted the quick demise of ‘political Islam’. Retrospectively he would seem to have been badly mistaken, but he will certainly be proved right in a slightly longer-term perspective. The violence and terrorism of Wahabism and its clones are best explained in terms of the transition to modernity – according to the theory of Karen Armstrong and Emmanuel Todd that I have already expounded. The latter predicted in his 2002 book that the fundamentalist fervor would die out both in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan – the two great headquarters of Islamic fundamentalism today – by about 2022. It has to be expected that the fundamentalist drive will have nothing like its present potency without the petro-dollars backing it. It seems commonsensical therefore to say that the fundamentalist drive has reached its climacteric and will enter its phase of decline. Fundamentalism in its extreme and violent form can break out here and there in the Islamic world, but it is not going to constitute a major problem for the rest of the world.

There are two difficulties in countering Wahabism in Sri Lanka. One is that it is difficult to find a Muslim who avows Wahabism. There are two significant physical markers of Wahabism: long beards and females who are robed in black burqas. Such Muslims invariably declare either that they are Salafis, meaning that they have returned to pristine Islam, or that they practice Islam in its true form and labels such as Wahabi are completely meaningless. Most Wahabis can therefore be expected to say that articles on countering Wahabism have no relevance to them and should be just ignored. But we know that the curricula in the madrasas is Wahabi, we know that there is Saudi funding behind them, we know that Wahabi practices have come to prevail, and we know that the traditional orthodox Sufi-inspired tolerant Islam that served our Muslims so well for so long is being totally eradicated. Considering those facts we have to ask whether the Wahabis are shame-faced about Wahabism because they suspect that Wahabism is incompatible with Islam. Anyway the fact that the Wahabis themselves won’t avow Wahabism suggests that Wahabism and its clones cannot possibly be the wave of the Islamic future.

The other difficulty in countering Wahabism is that there is now wide currency for the notion that it is not for every Dick, Tom, and Harry to interpret the Koran, a task that should be left to the theologians who have years and decades of Islamic study behind them. I declare that that notion is pernicious nonsense because it is outrageously unIslamic. To whom was the Koranic revelation given? It was given not to the erudite of the time but to an impoverished member of the Meccan merchant aristocracy who was illiterate. To whom did he convey the revelation? It was to Ahmed, Yusuf, and Izeth, the hoipoloi Muslim equivalents of Dick, Tom, and Harry. We must remember that Islam is an extreme form of Protestantism which establishes a direct unmediated relationship between the individual and God. That is why there are no priests in Islam, meaning individuals who only are ordained to perform certain religious functions. Therefore the notion that Ahmed, Yusuf, and Izeth should have no say in interpreting the Koran and Islam should be branded as heresy.

I concluded the first part of this article by making two proposals to counter Wahabism, both of which would promote national integration. The first was to use the madrasas to correct the misconception that Buddhism is a form of idol worship, a point that applies also to Christianity and Hinduism. I had a strictly orthodox Islamic upbringing but I used to relish the prospect of going to see the Vesak lights. Today there are Muslim children who will have none of it because doing that would be tantamount to idol worship. Using the madrasas to correct misconceptions about the three other religions practiced in Sri Lanka would not amount to proselytisation. It would just be a counter to the idiotisation of our Muslims through Wahabism. We should not allow an aberrant form of Islam, a minority cult, which depends so much for its hold on social coercion and the petro-dollar, to become a possible contributory factor towards wrecking our ethnic relations.

My second proposal concerned the two verses in the Koran according to which Jews, Christians, and Sabians who believe in the one true God and lead virtuous lives will go to heaven. We Muslims must struggle to bring about a form of Islam in which those verses are given central importance. This is clearly a matter which requires in-depth treatment elsewhere. I will merely declare here that Islam is of all the world religions arguably the most widely ecumenical, and also that it is fully consistent with modernity. I will conclude by quoting Ernst Gellner, who in addition to his other attainments had expertise in Muslim sociology: “By various obvious criteria – universalism, scripturalism,, spiritual egalitarianism, the extension of full participation in the sacred community, not to one, or some, but to all, and the rational systematization of social life – Islam is, of the three great Western monotheisms, the one closest to modernity”.

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    There are two significant physical markers of Wahabism: long beards

    does the converse apply? ie all Muslim men with long beards practice Wahabism?

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      You must be in some way connected to the shaving industry?

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        KI ask the question because
        Moieen Ali the England cricketer
        And
        Hasam Amla the South African cricketer
        Both have long beard. I wonder if they are Wahabis
        Or is Izeth making a generalisation as there are so many Muslim moderate scholars with long beard

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          [Edited out]

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        good money to be made if all Muslims decide to shave off their beard

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          Rajash

          I like to see your head shaven before all the Muslims shave their heads.

          Don’t forget about the big ceremony according to the rites to downsize before you shave your dead.

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            R K Raghavan
            “I like to see your head shaven before all the Muslims shave their heads”

            I shave my head every year when I go to Tirupati Temple.

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    So with all these claims and counterclaims by all religions and subsects, heaven will be a very lonely place.
    Hence I would prefer Hell, a fun place.

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    Let us all hope that Wahabism would die almost a natural death by 2022, though it sounds a little too optimistic!
    Sengodan. M

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    Oh My Gaban, you keep on appearing like a Jack in the Box, don’t you?

    Look IH, my problem is not ‘the millions and millions and millions of Muslims who lead pious Islamic lives as orthodox Muslims, Shias, Salafis, Whahabis’ etc that you mention. I can have them or leave them, but I prefer to leave them to their own devices, whatever they may be, and hope that they do not interfere with me in any adverse manner. No, I am worried about that small minority of mindless killers.

    One moment they are quiet and non interfering and the next moment they become robots designed purely for murder and mayhem, killing innocent men, women and children, who have not even dreamt of doing something against them. Isn’t that what happened in US recently with a married couple going on a rampage. It is as if someone had pressed a button on a remote control device to activate these two zombies.

    How do their controllers achieve that? Or is it some kind of mutated Islamic virus that affects them? Perhaps there is something wrong in their genes.

    Just as I am worried about rabid dogs when I walk the streets of Sri Lanka, I am worried about these remote controlled killing machines. I am not a serious dog lover. But then I don’t hate them too, as long as they keep to themselves. It is the ones who are infected with the rabies virus that horrify me.

    You say that Emmanuel Todd in his 2002 book predicts that fundamentalism would die out in 2022. Well, I am not going to wait with bated breath for that to happen. As the Scientific American says such predictions about the future have an equal chance of becoming true as a dart throwing chimpanzee hitting the bulls eye with 3 darts. It can happen but most probably it will not.

    We should not wait until the day when evil will be driven away as part of the natural processes. No. We have to start building defenses including good intelligence to nip it in the bud and by the Grace of Gaban we shall succeed.

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    I would like to draw reader’s attention to this brave young woman from Germany:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGfP8CyJAhg

    In the event CT doesn’t allow it, the search term on Youtube is 16 y/o German girl talks about muslim immigration, destruction of her own country (Engl. subs)

    My personal favourite line: “You’re as welcome as Ebola”

    Who’d have thunk it, bringing masses of people from broken third-world countries will make the receiving countries more like those third-world countries.

    It’s astounding that Europe as a civilization cannot bring themselves to just take in the modern liberal immigrants and leave the medieval anti-freedom, anti-choice and anti-women people at the doorstep of Europe.

    The question is, how soon before Sri Lanka too is consumed by the cancerous ideology that is Islam, propagated by those like Izeth Hussain and his ilk? I challenge you to go anywhere in Sri Lanka today and tell me you have not noticed the increase in ‘goni billa’ burkahs that have absolutely no place in this country and only help propagate the myth among our uneducated morons that women are to be objectified or barred from a normal existence.

    This is what happens when a belief in the interchangeability of all people becomes unquestionable moral dogma. If one believes all people are deep down really alike and that all any goup needs is respect, jobs and other socio/economic whatevers in order to become enlightened first-world citizens then it makes perfect sense to naively bring any number of people from the middle-east to the west. Izeth Hussain cannot understand that he and his followers should shut up and assimilate. I only hope we won’t open our eyes when it’s too late.

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      Bagehot,
      Why are you promoting thinly disguised white racism?. Do you not know that it was Muslim “guest workers” from “poor third-world” Turkey that built up the German economy from wartime ruin? Angela Merkel knows this very well, hence her attitude to immigration.
      I assume you are not yourself a white person.

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        It matters not who/what I am- focus on the idea.

        I have also clearly made a distinction between liberal/progressive individuals and those who wish to inflict their ideology and false sense of morality on everyone else. The Turks you speak of, you may have forgotten, never fully assimilated themselves into Germany nor even tried. You act as if they were slave labour when instead they were paid for the work they did, on the understanding that they would repatriate the money home and depart when normalcy returned. There was no need for them to spread any form of danger at that time- the Roman Catholic church and its dalliance with fascism had filled that void in that period. Over the decades these turks tried to establish themselves as a separate community, which was not looked upon kindly by their host nation, and eventually turned to living off a welfare state (mostly) when german population increase meant there were now local uptakers for the lower wage jobs. Lately, the crime rates have rocketed among these communities and they have not once condemned any of the attacks in cologne or those that go largely unreported in mainstream media. My problem isn’t the nationality- it’s the religion, which thinks it must inflict itself on all of us as the catholic church did decades and centuries ago.

        I feel sorry for our motherland as it becomes the next site of unholy war.

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          “It matters not who/what I am- focus on the idea. I have also clearly made a distinction between liberal/progressive individuals and those who wish to inflict their ideology and false sense of morality on everyone else.”

          Do we have a right to preach when we live in a country where what one eats and drinks is controlled by law on certain days.
          Even Saudi Arabia has about 4 holidays in a year. We have 12 for only one religion, the priesthood of which openly claims to be above the law.
          Nor does anyone think this is unusual.
          The problem with our motherland is not Muslims as such,they have assimilated as far as possible. It is the extremists among them, who were allowed to take control.
          Of course, about Turks and other immigrants, you have to admit that Mrs Merkel and her predecessors knew better.

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        ‘Do you not know that it was Muslim “guest workers” from “poor third-world” Turkey that built up the German economy from wartime ruin?’

        No it wasn’t. It was the German people with aid under the Marshall Plan from the USA. Turkish guestworkers arrived much later.

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          Taraki

          “Turkish guestworkers arrived much later.”

          Because Nehru refused to send “coolies” anymore.

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      Dear Bagehot,

      My reading of Izeth Hussain’s article suggests that he very much desires “assimilation” in most senses, although he wants to hold on to Islam. What’s the problem with that?

      Forget German; I suggest that you learn to read English.

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        Sinhala_Man

        “My reading of Izeth Hussain’s article suggests that he very much desires “assimilation” in most senses, although he wants to hold on to Islam. What’s the problem with that?”

        Isn’t that what the Spanish Muslims and the Ottoman Turks did?

        Isn’t that what the Muslims did, except the Wahhabies their Clones did?

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    I would like to open a point of discussion with an example.

    The Tamils for example faithfully follow SJV prophecies. The prophecies are immutable. If one way of reaching the “promised land” fails, they try to find another way.

    So you have a Prophet and a fellowship. The moment the leadership veers in another direction, another faithful fills the void. You can see this in action Wingeswaran trying to fill the void TNA is forced to vacate.

    So continuity of the fellowship is guaranteed regardless of the negative experience the prophecies.

    This is perhaps the reason why Islam spreads so fast too. Wahabism is merely a faithful fellowship of the Prophet. As soon as Wahabi veers in another direction another will fill the void.

    So I give you that its not the fellowship that should be the focus. Its the prophecies that should be the focus that gives a platform to create a fellowship like the Wahabis.

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      Vibhushana the imbecile,

      You have run away from other threats! Now you appear here writing a lot of tosh again! You worry about the Sinhala and the mahavamsa. The nation is in turmoils because you fools blindly worshiping mahavamsa as gospel. The Tamils are the victims of the mahavamsa madness and you leave them alone!

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    A suitable common title for all Mr Hussain’s writings is “Islam away from Islam”

    Soma

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      You are quite entitled to say that, Soma.

      “I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”

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        Sinhala_Man

        “I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”

        However, the Wahhabis and the Christian Inquisitors ( of an Earlier Era), will say that you will be tried and put to death, so that you nor have to suffer in Hell Fire for Eternity.

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    Mr. Izeth Hussain

    RE: The Two Difficulties In Countering Wahabism In Sri Lanka

    Thank you for this series on Wahhabism and the Terrorism Menace.

    1. “By Islamic fundamentalism is today meant Wahabism and its clones.”

    Yes, the need of the hour is for keeping this Wahhabi Satan-Iblis-Devil and their Clones menace in the forefront, and expose them. This is a hard battle, as hard as the battle the Islamic Philosophers waged over 1,000 years ago, and lost out to the Ulama, due to Political reasons.

    “However Wahabism is not going to disappear overnight.” Yes.

    The Quran warns against the Satan for over 25 times. Why? Wahhabies and their clones?

    The hope in this day and age with the Communications and the Internet, is that the Iblis- Wahhabi conspirators can be exposed, using the Quran, Reason and Logic. The real question is that are the Muslims intellectually mature to understand the arguments and the evidence presented?

    Yes, the fact that even in Wahhabi- Saudi Arabia, even with the control of the Islamic Holy Lands over the past 100 to 200 years, the Wahhabies were able to convert only 25% of the population. Common sense dictates that the majority of such converts are with IQs at the bottom 25% percentile of the Saudi population.

    This is like saying that in Rome or in Italy, only 25% are Roman Catholics, which we know is not the case.

    “The latter (Emmanuel Todd ) predicted in his 2002 book that the fundamentalist fervor would die out both in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan – the two great headquarters of Islamic fundamentalism today – by about 2022.”

    For that to happen, they need to be exposed.

    2.”There are two difficulties in countering Wahabism in Sri Lanka. One is that it is difficult to find a Muslim who avows Wahabism. There are two significant physical markers of Wahabism: long beards and females who are robed in black burqas. Such Muslims invariably declare either that they are Salafis, meaning that they have returned to pristine Islam, or that they practice Islam in its true form and labels such as Wahabi are completely meaningless. Most Wahabis can therefore be expected to say that articles on countering Wahabism have no relevance to them and should be just ignored.”

    Use the Quran and Hadith to Counter. They will ignore for sure. Even today, 25% of the Americans, 34% of the Europeans and 50% from other countries believe that the Sun does around the Earth.

    There is a Hypothesis that states that the Wahhabis and Their Clones Follow Iblis, Satan, Devil and as per the Satan’s instructions will try to rename Sufis, Shia and Ahmedia as non-Muslims, and therefore acceptable to kill them. However, so far the Wahhabies and their Clones have NOT provided verses in the Quran in support of the above killings.

    They do not follow the Four Islamic schools. They follow the Iblis-Wahhabi school.

    3. In fact this is what Abdul Wahhab did 250 years ago, killing Shia Muslims, and resulted in the First Wahhabi-Ottoman War.

    4. The interesting Question to ask is why are the Wahhabies and their clones committing such crimes, under the cover of Tauheed, when not instructed in the Quran?

    One may use, reason logic and Islamic Theology to arrive at some reasons. Let the Wahhabies and their clones counter this Hypothesis.

    The answer is with the Satan, Devil , Iblis.

    Iblis, Satan simply hates those who pray to God, Allah. The Satan’s days are numbered until the day of judgement. This is Islamic Theology.

    Iblis was proud and considered himself superior to Adam, since Adam was made from clay and Iblis from smokeless fire. For this act of disobedience, God cursed him to Jahannam (Hell/Purgatory) for eternity, but gave him respite until the Day of Judgment, after Iblis requested it. Iblis obtained permission from God and vowed that he would use this time to lead all men and women astray to Hell. In this way, he would prove humanity’s inferiority, and justify his act of defiance. For refusing to abide by the will of God, Iblis was cast out of Heaven, and thereafter he was called “Shaytan” (Satan).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil_(Islam)

    5. So, the Iblis strategy is to mislead the Muslims, take them away from God, Allah, and get those who are misled be with Satan on the Day of Judgement. So how does the Satan Iblis accomplish this. Get the Iblis following Muslims to commit crimes, like killing and destruction of religious monuments.

    References:

    1. Hadith of Najd. Hadith Talks about the Satan.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith_of_Najd

    2. Scholar Opinion. Al-azhar cleric about wahabis/salafis

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAvWmZfGjTU

    3. The Wahhabi/Salafi Fallacy – Abdal Hakim Murad

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvDVUcYaGbo

    4. Shaykh Hamza Speaks about destruction of History by Wahabis

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-48KeClZEA

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    Mr. Hussein:

    Quran says, that if a non-believe comes to a muslim house asking food, before giving food, the house owner must spit three times on that food.

    IS that true ?

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      I know many Muslims, and some I count as good friends. I do not need to defend them but I have to say that this comment is an obnoxious, disgusting and unworthy, and an utter falsehood.

      These are kind and generous people and deserve better.

      The things we endure in the name of free speech.

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      @Jim softly,
      What has your ignorant comment got to do with this article?
      You must be referring to the ‘Quran’ that is fictitiously concocted in the imagination of your fascist BBS-masters. How are your LTTE-diaspora world over and the mistresses in Norway doing these days that provide you with valuable funding and remittances to ignite ethnic conflicts to destabilize the country? Convey my condolences to the Madamulana gang as well for trying to re-ignite sectarianism with the Sinhalei racial campaign and indignation that few clowns like you try to ignite and detonate any attempt by this Government to bring about racial inclusion and ethnic harmony. The plethora of jackals like yourself coming out of the woods must be a harbinger of the coming apocalypse that most of these holy scriptures forewarned their disciples many centuries ago.

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      Jim softy

      “Quran says, that if a non-believe comes to a muslim house asking food, before giving food, the house owner must spit three times on that food. IS that true ?”

      Jim Softy, why do you still believe that ignorance and stupidity are virtues? Buddha never taught that? May be Mara or Mara?

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    Mr Hussain, what are we supposed to understand as “modernity”? Could you clarify the word little bit further. May be we can believe our own eyes.

    Soma

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      soma, I asked the same question from you and IH in the previous exchange. Can you please answer. I am sure IH is not going to.

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    NMMI Hussein at his very best here.Mahindapala where are you? Read this article and learn how to write sensible stuff.

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      Mahindapala now specializes exclusively, in womens make-up.

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    Izeth Hussain

    RE: After Islamic fundamentalism? – part 2

    The Prophet Muhammad movie

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeAZZoYeGL0

    Michael Ansara and Anthony Quinn are worth watching in any movie. Quinn makes a great bedouin. I can see where Mohammed seemed to be a virtuous man in such a ghastly civilization, where anything would be an improvement.

    Unfortunately the Wahhabies and their clones are different, because they follow Satan, Iblis.

    God judges all. So worship God with spirit and truth not by debate nor force nor violent. We are all accountable in all we do. It is therefore wise that everyone examine the religion of your birth so as to make a wise choice on your own. Ask ourselves what evidence is there that a book which people claim to be from God is truly from God. Likewise what evidence support any claim that a man is sent by God. Everyone is answerable to God. Not even your parent can force you to believe in a particular religion. It is STUPID to set laws to force a person to follow a particular religion. God wants worship from a willing heart.

    However, for Wahhabies and their clones, it is a different set of rules, because they follow Satan, Iblis.

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      Izeth Hussain

      RE: After Islamic fundamentalism? – part 2

      Islam: The Untold Story (Historian Tom Holland)

      How did the Arabs became Muslim, sand then became Wahhabi 1,200 years later?

      Many historians are challenging long-held opinions of the origins of Islam. Tom Holland examines whether the religion was born fully formed, or if it evolved over many years.

      Adopting the theories of academic historian Patricia Crone as a basis, Holland asserted that there was little hard evidence for the origins of Islam and asked why it took several decades after the death of Muhammad for his name to appear on surviving documents or artifacts. Arguing that there was little evidence for how the faith was born, he suggested that the city of Mecca may not have been the real birthplace of Muhammad and Islam, and – while not clearly disputing Muhammad’s existence as a real historical figure – claimed that much of the Islamic origin story was later developed in the early years of the Arab Empire.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J60AWCS-hfo

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    Izeth Hussain

    RE: The Two Difficulties In Countering Wahabism In Sri Lanka

    After Islamic fundamentalism? – part 2

    A Good part of it is die to the Islamic Religions scholars since the 12th Century are only versed in Religion, Hadith and the Quran, and not in the other fields such as mathematics, Philosophy, Astronomy, Physics, etc.

    The result is the decline of the Islamic sciences, Islam and Muslims.

    Do the Wahhabies and their Clones consider Stupidity as a Virtue?

    They were already declining before the Mongols attacked.

    The Intellectual Collapse of Islam

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl1nJC3lvFs

    “However it could prove to be a hardy plant in some places, like a spiky rebarbative cactus with those unIslamic black burqas and other horrors. The explanation might be found in a sage observation of the great Einstein: there are only two infinite things, the universe and human stupidity, and Einstein wasn’t sure about the universe. However in the Islamic world as a whole Wahabism will surely come to be regarded as an aberrant form of Islam with an appeal only to a tiny proportion of Muslims who are afflicted with deep psychological problems.”

    “My second proposal concerned the two verses in the Koran according to which Jews, Christians, and Sabians who believe in the one true God and lead virtuous lives will go to heaven. “

    God, Science, and Atheism

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y2ICUYwp4E

    As Dr. Lawrence Principe notes, “The idea that scientific and religious camps have historically been separate and antagonistic is rejected by all modern historians of science.” Nevertheless, the idea that science and religion are in conflict remains extremely popular, thanks to certain politically motivated works written in the 1800s and a variety of more recent claims (most notably by the “new atheists”). Yet even a brief consideration of the views of the leaders of the scientific revolution and of history’s most important scientists shows not only that belief in God is quite prevalent among scientists, but also that it has been a driving force in their discoveries. This video presents a number of quotes to illustrate the truth about the relationship between science and religion.

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    Mr Hussain is an Asian. He received a Western/English education. Though he practises Islam he is exposed to non Islamic ethical systems where love, compassion, understanding and enlightenment are the main stays rather than law and punishment. The Holy Quaran was delivered in the language of the Arabs and and the Arabs inherit the traditions of Prophet Mohammed(PBUH) who lived in Saudi Arabia where Mecca and Medina are situated. How on earth mr Hussain can claim that he is more knowledgeable on Islam and is capable of making interpretations on HolyQuaran than the Arabs themselves?

    Soma

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      soma

      “How on earth mr Hussain can claim that he is more knowledgeable on Islam and is capable of making interpretations on HolyQuaran than the Arabs themselves? “

      Because:

      1. Over the past 800 years, most Arabs became stupider and stupider, thanks to the Ulema, because they studied ONLY Religion as Religious Scholars, and they prompted Stupidity as a Virtue.

      2. Because of their developing stupidity, the Arab Religious Scholars became less knowledgeable. However, this was not the case until around 1,200 CE.

      3. Most of the bright religious and Islamic Science scholars during the first 500 years of Islamic Civilization were not Arabs. They were non-Arabs, who had a higher native IQ than the Arabs.

      4.Look at the Saudi Wahhabi Abd al-Aziz ibn Baz

      Many of Ibn Baz’s views and rulings are considered controversial (both inside and outside Saudi Arabia), including those relating to cosmology, women’s rights.

      Mr. Izeth Hussein is much more Intelligent, knowledgeable and Smarter than Abd al-Aziz ibn Bazthan. Unfortunately, most idiots, who consider Stupidity is a Virtue, do not know that.

      Education
      At that time, Saudi Arabia lacked a modern university system. Ibn Baz received a traditional education in Islamic literature with Islamic scholars:

      King Fahd issued a decree appointing Abdul-Azeez ibn Abdullaah Aal ash-Shaikh as the new Grand Mufti after Ibn Bāz’s death.

      In his career as the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, he attempted to both legitimize the rule of the ruling family and to support calls for the reform of Islam in line with Salafi ideals. Many criticized him for supporting the Saudi government when, after the Gulf War, it muzzled or imprisoned those regarded as too critical of the government, such as Safar al-Hawali and Salman al-Ouda. His influence on the Salafi movement was large, and most of the prominent judges and religious scholars of Saudi Arabia today are former students of his.

      Cosmology

      In 1966, when Ibn Baz was vice-president of the Islamic University of Medina, he wrote an article denouncing Riyadh University for teaching the “falsehood” that the earth rotates and orbits the sun.

      Author Robert Lacey quotes a fatwa by bin Baz urging caution towards claims that the Americans had landed on the moon. “We must make careful checks whenever the kuffar [unbeleivers] or faseqoon [immoral folk] tell us something: we cannot believe or disbelieve them until we get sufficient proof on which the Muslims can depend.”Lacey states that “after extensive research” of bin Baz’s fatawa, he (Lacey) had only been able to find this one fatwa on the subject, and no statement in it that the earth was flat.Lacey does however say that according to his source, Bin Baz gave an interview after publishing the article

      “in which he mused on how we operate day to day on the basis that the ground beneath us is flat … and it led him to the belief that he was not afraid to voice and for which he became notorious.”

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abd_al-Aziz_ibn_Baz

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        All praise is due to Allah, and may peace be upon His Messenger.

        Here is Sheikh Ibn Bâz’s fatwâ on the matter:

        According to the people of knowledge the Earth is round. Indeed, Ibn Hazm and other scholars have declared that there is consensus on this matter among the people of knowledge This means that all of the surface of the Earth is connected together so that the form of the planet is like a sphere. Nevertheless, Allah has spread out the Earth’s surface in relation to us, and He has placed upon it firm mountains, the seas, and life as a mercy for us. For this reason, Allah said: “And (do they not look) at the Earth, how it was spread out flat (sutihat).” [Sûrah al-Ghâshiyah:20] Therefore, the Earth has been made flat for us in regards to our relationship to it to facilitate our lives upon it and our comfort. The fact that it is round does not prevent that its surface has been made flat for us. This is because something that is round and very large, then its surface will become very vast or broad, having a flat appearance to those who are upon it.”


        This is the fatwâ of Sheikh Ibn Bâz about the shape of the Earth. So do not listen to those who lie against him and try to make it seem as though he was some “old fool” who did not even know that the Earth is round. Such people are liars and slanderers. At best, they are rumor mongers who narrate whatever they hear without verification the accuracy of what they say.
        As the Prophet (peace be upon him) said: “It is sufficient to consider a man a liar when he narrates everything that he hears.” [Sahîh Muslim]
        Answered by the Scientific Research Committee – IslamToday.net

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      Dear Soma,

      Third comment that I’m directing at you? I find you decent and candid.

      It may be that Mr Hussain cannot claim to be more knowledgeable than the Arabs. Well, as for myself, I much prefer thew IH brand of Islam which you yourself acknowledge to be steeped in “love, compassion, understanding and enlightenment” than “law and punishment.”

      I’ve already said this: the Prophet Mohammed of Arabia seems to a person like me more warrior and politician than religious leader. However, IH has been showing us that the views that most Sri Lankans have (I hope you don’t think that I’m presuming too much) is incomplete. We want him and his like here – and despite all that you say, I like you too!

      Let those who are obsessed with the Laws and Punishments prescribed by “the Holy Quaran” leave us and settle in Arabia.

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    The man adds to the ever increasing ignorance that is streaming in at amazing regularity. I wish to remind the gentleman that this is not diplomacy and he should not even try and expound a subject he does not know. There is absolutely nothing known as Wahhabism, what I think the gentleman is referring to is either Karajism, Takfirism or Qutubism. Wahhabism is a meaningless appellative first used by the British on the Muslims of India who resisted occupation. Since then every opportunist and hypocrite have used the term to connote anything and everything associated with violence. Usama bin Laden was once called a Wahhabi – if he actually was a Wahhabi half of America would have embraced Islam including the Bush family. The fundamental teaching of the great scholar Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab was to call the Muslims to the worship of Allah and stay away from all false deities. He struggled hard to take Muslims away from grave worship, some of his enemies did not like and started calling names. His name was Muhammad and not Wahhab. Why wouldn’t one call the movement Muhammadism? The rascals know why? The gentleman should not get his name tarnished by voluntarily immersing himself in the cesspit of ignorance.

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      Over half a dozen, apparently learned Muslims in their scriptures, note here Izeth Hussain does not know what he is writing of Islam.
      That is not surprising because what goes as Islam is a derivation from Judaism, Christianity and the Bible. No wonder those who pretend to be Islamic scholars are contradicting themselves in different countries and at different times of history. The reasons may well be because, this new “religion” is based on a weak and highly questionable foundation. It is based on hatred, revenge, blood and the sword.

      The Arabic countries and the middle-east contributed greatly to the development of mankind during the Euphrates/Tigris civilisation in farming, domesticity of animals, agriculture, mathematics and many other areas of importance before Mohamed showed up. Since then, it is tension, confusion, wars, neck-cuttings, stoning, rule of the sword, curses and so on. In today’s world we have to live with the threat of Al Qaeda, Al Shabab, Boko Haram, Wahabism, LeT, the threat of an Islamic Hydrogen bomb and what not – all in the name of the “purest” religion in the world.

      L. Mostley

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      Abu Abdullah

      Tom Holland – Quran didn’t come from Allah – Islamic Truth

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwo5xpO390k

      Muslims believe Otherwise. Here is a Comment by a Muslim:

      “This is REDICULOUS !!! Did this person live at the time of Prophet Muhammad[peace be upon him]?? During the life of the Prophet it was well observed and proven that Angel Gabriel brought the Quran[ The Message of Allah] to the Prophet over a period of 23 years. This is the religion of Abraham finalised through Prophet Muhammad . Hence the mention of JESUS, MOSES, and many other Israeli prophets. Prophet NOAH and Prophet Adam also have been mentioned. Muslims in the past
      were NOT DUMB. There are proofs that Quran is from the DIVINE.”

      Joshua, the Ancients, the Church, Copernicus, Galileo, Kepler, and Newton were all subject to disputes….

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    Death is a certain, nobody can deny death.
    Quran is certain.
    Allah is absolutely certain
    Idol worshippers going to hell is certain.
    Shia is not Islam, it is a cult practicing a sought of zoratism,
    Mostly by Persians.
    Islam is about fundamentals:

    1.imman
    2.sallah
    3.zakath
    4.ramazan
    5.haj
    People who practice above are fundamentalist.
    Including jihad for Islam.

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      Jehan

      The Five Pillars of Islam are:

      1. Shahadat – Faith

      2. Salat – Prayer

      3. Zakat – Charity

      4. Sawm – Fasting

      5. Haj – Pilgrimage to Makkah

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        Ali and Jehan,

        “ISIS Threatens Again To Destroy Holy Kaaba”

        http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3331595/posts

        The ISIS Takfiri group has threatened to destroy the holy Kaaba in Makkah, Saudi Arabia. A member of the terrorist group posted a message on Twitter, saying that people worship a stone building instead of God and so it should be demolished.

        The message said if Daesh manages to conquer Makkah, it would raze the Kaaba to the ground on the order of the group’s leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, al-Bawaba news reported. This is not the first time the Takfiri group talks of demolishing the holy place in Makkah.

        If that happens, “5. Haj – Pilgrimage to Makkah ” won’t be needed. Then. Four Pillars of Islam are ;

        1. Shahadat – Faith
        2. Salat – Prayer
        3. Zakat – Charity
        4. Sawm – Fasting

        Will the Satan-Following Wahhabies and their Clones give up their relabeling of Sufis, Shia and Ahmedia as Apostates and Infidels and stop killing them?

        Just curious.

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      In reply to jehan (which i’m sure is a false name)

      Forcing sex on a child certainly sends you to HELL. (Thats certain)

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      Death is certain: correct.

      You are certain that I’m headed for hell: no problem, but how many times do you have to keep telling me that?

      I have nothing against you, but I can’t help feeling that my concept of heaven will be where there is an absence of the sort of thinking that you profess.

      I don’t think that I will amount to anything after I die, but your promise that you and I won’t be in the same place twenty years from now, I find reassuring.

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        Sinhala_Man

        “You are certain that I’m headed for hell: no problem, but how many times do you have to keep telling me that?”

        Only Iblis, Satan Following Wahhabis and their clones will end up in Hell on the day of Judgement, along with Iblis, as per Islamic Theology.

        Since you are not a Wahhabi or any of its Clones. going to Hell will not apply to you.

        Iblis, Satan simply hates those who pray to God, Allah.

        The Satan’s days are numbered until the day of judgement. This is Islamic Theology.

        Iblis was proud and considered himself superior to Adam, since Adam was made from clay and Iblis from smokeless fire. For this act of disobedience, God cursed him to Jahannam (Hell/Purgatory) for eternity, but gave him respite until the Day of Judgment, after Iblis requested it. Iblis obtained permission from God and vowed that he would use this time to lead all men and women astray to Hell. In this way, he would prove humanity’s inferiority, and justify his act of defiance. For refusing to abide by the will of God, Iblis was cast out of Heaven, and thereafter he was called “Shaytan” (Satan).

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    Giving food as Muslims have been said in the Quran 88 times.
    Give food to the poor etc…
    It has not said Muslims or non Muslims.
    Muslims give food to all, even animal rights are
    Enshrined. As Muslims if we have a pet, if we don’t feed or forget to feed,this is a serious crime,
    Can lead to hell.

    For a fact: The largest doners for UN food programs in Africa or Asia are Saudi Arabia,Kuwait,Qutar,
    What people see on the food sack is USA, this is because the excess from US is purchased by the UN
    Through the funds from Muslim majority countries.

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      @Jehan

      Majority of the Muslim countries are living in utter poverty …….

      Why the hell these so called rich Muslim countries can’t accept Syrian refugees …???

      Why the hell these Muslims refugees prefer infidel Europe ???

      Will Arab country give refuge status for Christians or other religions ….???

      When a natural disaster strike any Muslim country in the world it is only the infidel Europeans come with aids first ..Muslims countries sit and watch

      even yesterday Britain decided to take 20,000 Muslim refuge kids ..later family with 12 members of this kid can join …..then attack the British people in the name of Islam

      Why can’t the guardian of Islam Saudes take these kids ???

      You are still boasting about an outdated faith and expect others to listen …..

      There is no place for Islam in todays modern civilized world..West should send all these Muslims back to 4th century …

      Cheers

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    The writer falls into the category of the view held by the deviant orientalists. Imam Mohammed Ibn Abdul Wahhab stood against the intercession from the Prophets (peace be upon them all), the Saints, and the Pious who are in their graves, by supplicating to them is Major Shirk (polytheism) because that is considered as worship of them. The Messenger (pbuh) said: “Supplication (Du`a) is worship.” And Allah, the Most High, stated: “And invoke not besides Allah that which will neither benefit you nor harm you, but if you do, then you will be from the wrongdoers. And if Allah afflicts you with harm, none can remove it except He.” (The Noble Quran 10:106-107) And His, the Most High, statement concerning those who supplicate to the deceased: Who is more astray than the one who calls upon other than Allah; one who will not answer him till the Day of Resurrection.” And His saying: “Your Lord has said: Call upon Me and supplicate to Me and I will answer you. And those who disdain My worship, then they will be entered into the Hellfire in disgrace.” (The Noble Quran 40:60).

    Mohammed Ibn Abdul Wahhab made every effort to purify Islam by returning Muslims to the original principles of Islam, as exemplified by the Salaf (Companions of the Prophet (pbuh) First and Second Generation in Arabia) and rejecting what was regarded as corruptions introduced by Bid’ah (Innovation of new practices) and Shirk (Attributing Partners). Although all Muslims pray to one God, Mohammed Ibn Abdul Wahhab was keen on emphasising that no intercession with Allah was possible without Allah’s permission, which Allah only grants to whom He wills and only to benefit those whom He wills, certainly not the ones who invoke anything or anyone except Him, as these would never be forgiven.

    And lo! this your religion is one religion and I am your Lord, so keep your duty unto Me. (The Noble Quran 22:52) But they (mankind) have broken their religion among them into sects, each sect rejoicing in its tenets. (The Noble Quran 22:53) So leave them in their error till a time. (The Noble Quran 22:54)

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    Saudis are the fund masters for all problems in middle East and Asia specially Maldives Is., and Malaysia …

    He He He with oil price going down USD30 ..and Iran export staring oil .these Saudis will soon go back to 4th century with many separate states…even Allah can’t stop this

    The world will be safe after this

    There is no place for Islam in this modern civilized world.

    Saudia Airlines serve only sum sum water in their flights …no western passengers like to fly

    He He He whisky and brandy flow inside Qatar Airways…Emirates Airlines..Etihad Airways …

    Listen Islam prohibit alcohol my foot

    Cheers

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      Cholan,

      Whisky, Brandy, Rum and anything you want already flows within these airlines. Emirates, Qatar Airways, Etihad Airways. Whys should the oil price go down for this to happen. Please try to get on board one of these airlines first.

      By the way, what is SUM SUM water Cholan? I have heard of ZAM ZAM water but not SUM SUM water!

      Islam prohibits not only alcohol but all things that cause damage to our bodies, including cigarettes and drugs. If you insist that you kill yourself by indulging in these habits, it is fine as you clearly are not part of the fold of islam and you do not have to worry much about what islam or the Quran says. Go on my friend with your merry life!!

      Oil price can some down to $5 also, but remember in Sri Lanka we will never experience those price decreases ever. Our Petrol prices are still at the level when the world oil price was $80 per barrel. Therefore, not much to smile about.

      Be realistic. Your car will still guzzle petrol at Rs 100 per litre. All the best.

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        @ Barus

        It should be Zam Zam water sorry for typing error….

        BTW try one of the A380 first class cabin of the said airlines …all equipped with bar served by muslims hostesses ( morocco ,lebanon,tunis,indonesian,malaysian chicks)

        Your muslims love this bar during flight …and visit regularly ..he he he ..

        Can you show one Muslims today who is not consuming alcohol?

        Go and see Maldives Islands and Malaysia ..where Muslims even chicks booze ..smoke ..and even enjoy drugs….what happened to your Islam?

        Again today biggest market for liquor and cigarette in the world is Middle East ….Saudi Arabia is on top..

        Cheers

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      cholan

      “Saudis are the fund masters for all problems in middle East and Asia specially Maldives Is., and Malaysia …”

      Saudis go bankrupt, Wahhabi goes bankrupt, and the Wahhabies end up in Hell fire.

      What a religion, Wahhabism and its Clones.

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    Inform, Explain, Deny, Apologise; and more. Thank you Izeth Hussain for another instalment.

    The truth is that as far the Muslim community in Sri Lanka is concerned, their future is their hands. Circumstances on this Blessed Island are entirely unique, and it is for the Muslims to find their position and work an enduring relationship with those of us with whom they are destined to share this land.

    May our Muslim fellow citizens be blessed with good leaders to take them forward.

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    Personally I prefer the extremist Muslims like Whabbis to the so called Muslim intellectuals.

    I work in the Emirates and I have personal experience working with both types and the in between shades of Muslims. You may not agree with the Wahabi brand of Islam, but they are very honest and faithful to the principles of Islam they believe in. It is not only just a belief for them but a complete commitment.

    If they do not like you, they will tell you so to your face, not behind your back. The first day one of them (M Khonji)reported for work, I said Good Morning and offered my hand. He quietly but firmly refused my hand and said that he will not shake hands with a non believer. I was surprised a lot by this but just let it go.

    There were Shia ladies working with him close to his table and they told me that he used to shade his eyes from them, using his hand, so that they will not be seen. He hated photos and pictures and once told me that making pictures, photos, figures of things created by Allah is a great sin. He had that typical beard and wore a short version of the Arabic dress.

    I built up some sort of close relationship with him in a short time. He was an expert in drawing blood from people as a method of curing various illnesses and earned a lot of money from it.

    He was very intelligent and learned the work in a very short time. Finally, he resigned from his position to devote his full time for his blood therapy business that was booming.

    This is in sharp contrast with other Muslims, who will go in to song and dance to show their friendship but will not hesitate to betray you at the drop of a hat.

    With a Wahabi, you know where you stand without any doubt. The same cannot be said about the other Muslims.

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      Edwin , I thought you were a very intelligent person …that’s until I read this comment of your’s.Being a Wahhabi does not make one honest. Honesty is something that is inborn in an individual. To an extent it can be cultivated by sheer effort as well. If your Wahhabi=Honesty theory was true, then Saudi Arabia should be a land of honest people like no other. If you have had the opportunity to have worked there , then you would have witnessed how dishonesty is settled; not in Court but secretly by the sword.

      As for your friend “shading” his eyes in the presence of ladies, may I say that it is always possible to take a secret peek at them even with the hand s over the eyes! Just take your hand put it over your eyes with some little gaps between your fingers and see for yourself. By doing so your friend would have been able to take a nice look at by some parts of the ladies in a way it would not be possible through down right gazing. If your friend did so openly , you know well what would have befallen him.So the chap resorted to a little innovation to satisfy his fetish and in in the process took his “Good Friend ‘,Edwin Rodrigo,for a right royal(Camel) ride!!

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        Wahabis are Honest Muslims (Proof)

        Brian you say, “Edwin , I thought you were a very intelligent person.” I completely agree with you on that and I repeat it boldly so that no one would miss it even if they were looking at it through their fingers. I was just re reading my previous comment before writing this reply and it was so clever that I could not understand a single word in it. Oscar Wilde, also felt the same way about his writing.

        I do not think I said that Raed is my friend. The crucial thing is that, Raed, a Muslim as pure as the fresh snow that is falling right now on Washington DC, would not be amused if I said that. He would come after me with his blood sucking equipment if he believed that. So let us keep it on low key, shall we? These guys, unlike the modernized Muslims, SAY what they THINK and DO what they SAY. I am prepared to die for Lanka and Gaban Atha but death by blood sucking, albeit by a modern robotic mosquito, is not at the top of wish list.

        However, Oscar Wilde says, “True friends stab you in the front.” Raed would certainly stab me in the front. Why? Because I am an infidel. If you agree with what OW says, then you have to agree with the converse too. Any one who stabs you in the front is a True friend.

        Therefore it follows logically that Raed the Wahabi must be my true friend. That is certainly a paradox if ever there was one.

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          Edwin dear,With apologies to Wilde I dare say that whoever stabs Saint Edwin Rodrigo on the front OR back is not his friend nor mine! Oh how can we exist on the comments Column of CT without Edwin”s philosophical old world brilliance?

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            Compliments leave me baffled

            Thanks for that kind thought. You are a good friend and trust me, Allah and Gaban will reward you for those words in circumstances least expected by you.

            You say, “Oh how can we exist on the comments Column of CT without Edwin’s philosophical old world brilliance”? Very embarrassing to be complimented like that. I’m turning pink in the most unexpected places. And I am brown.

            But you are exaggerating my importance, aren’t you? Okay I will accept it without any complaints this time. But please don’t do it again. Like Mason Cooley, I am are prepared for insults, but compliments leave me a little baffled.

            But on the other hand, I think it would be impolite and selfish to discourage you from enjoying in a harmless way. If you want to really do it, you can do it, but not more than once a day.

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      EDWIN RODRIGO

      “With a Wahabi, you know where you stand without any doubt. The same cannot be said about the other Muslims”

      Yes.

      The Wahhabis and their clones, will call other Muslims, Shia, Sufi, Ahmedia as non-Muslims, Apostates, and claim based on the teachings of Ibn Taymiah and Abdul Wahhab, because they are now Apostates, can be killed, and will kill them.

      Other Muslims will not try to kill you because you are not Wahhabi, Salafi, Najadi, Deobandi, ISIS, ISIL Boko Haram etc.(It is like some Sinhala “Buddhists” who follow Mara will go to Sunday Night Sil and do Monday Night Kill, try to Kill Tamils and Muslims, whereas the other Sinhala Buddhists who follow Buddha won’t do that.)

      Why do these killing type Wahhabis Kill other Muslims? Because they are infected by the Satan, Devil, Iblis, Mara. They simply do not like God, Allah, because they are followers of Satan. You are falling for the deception of the Wahhabis.

      If these gain full power, like ISIS, the Shia, Sufis, and Ahmedia will be killed, and others will be treated the Iblis-Wahhabi Method.

      It is possible, the guy you are trying is naive to understand this trick of the Satan, Iblis, Devil.

      Ask the Wahhabis, the following Question, Amearsiri has been asking, and so far, no Wahhabi has given a correct reply, other than saying “Malle Pol”, “Coconuts in the sack”

      Amarasiri’s question was:

      “What did Shaik Muhammad Abdul Wahab teach the Meccan and Medina Quran’s did NOT teach? Call other Muslims Non-Muslims and Kill them, based on instructions from Iblis, Satan. Examples are killing of Shia Muslims, Sufi Muslims, Ahmedia Muslims, Christians, Jews and other people.”

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        Where am I going to be stabbed

        Amarasiri, You say that I said “With a Wahabi, you know where you stand without any doubt. The same cannot be said about the other Muslims”. Being a very clever quotation, I cannot understand what it means but hey, you are my good friend. Of course, that does not mean that I suspect you of stabbing me in front. You are Amarasiri – not Raed. As such where you are going to stab me is governed by the laws of Quantum Mechanics and not by the Sharia Laws.

        Raed is a good friend as I have proved in my comment for The Tamil Man and therefore I know exactly where I stand. Or more correctly where he stands. It is right in front of me. I said that Raed is a friend. But Raed is a Wahabi too. And for Wahabis their religion is much more important than the life of any baboon who is stupid enough to befriend them. Not only do I know where he stands, but I know exactly where he is going to stab me, right in front – a bulls eye on my chest.

        It is not fair to end my comment without covering the ‘other Muslims’. They may complaint saying, “you covered Amare, you covered Raed, but what about us? Why, are we black”? So here we go.

        Knowing you ordinary Muslims very well, all I can I say is that you will not stab me in front. That is for certain. But I am not so sure about my back.

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          EDWIN RODRIGO

          Amarasiri’s question was:

          “What did Shaik Muhammad Abdul Wahab teach the Meccan and Medina Quran’s did NOT teach? Call other Muslims Non-Muslims and Kill them, based on instructions from Iblis, Satan. Examples are killing of Shia Muslims, Sufi Muslims, Ahmedia Muslims, Christians, Jews and other people.”

          Nobody is answering Amarasir’s question. So far no Wahhabies and their clones have answered.

          Can you please ask your God Gaban Atta?

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    May Sri Lanka be blessed with leaders who can develop the country and bring economic prosperity to all it’s citizens.

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      Maghribi

      “May Sri Lanka be blessed with leaders who can develop the country and bring economic prosperity to all it’s citizens.”

      It can’t be Wahhabies and their clones. Why? Because they consider Stupidity is a Virtue.
      (The explanation might be found in a sage observation of the great Einstein: there are only two infinite things, the universe and human stupidity, and Einstein wasn’t sure about the universe. However in the Islamic world as a whole Wahabism will surely come to be regarded as an aberrant form of Islam with an appeal only to a tiny proportion of Muslims who are afflicted with deep psychological problems.”)

      They elevate Revelation above Reason, formulated by the God given human brain, whether correct or not.

      Even the Catholic Church, recognized the Error of Joshuas Revelation of stopping the Sun, and the Pope and the Church and the Pope, after pestering by Copernicus, Galileo, Kepler, Newton and Foucault, gt a New Revelation accepting the Geocentric Holy Revelation Model to be Incorrect.

      The Geocentric Abrogation Verse.

      Poor, Giardano Bruno. It was too late for him.

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    Mr. IH is quite incapable of writing a factual story on Wahabism. He claims there are so many sects in Islam. This in itself states he knows very little of Islam.

    There is no movement called WAHABISM as the Orientalists of the world would want anyone to believe. Islam is simply a way of life that insists on its adherents to pray the One Almighty God and not the various tombs and so called objects that people attribute to have powers of God or has the capability of intercession with God.

    Mr. IH clearly states muslims can be of different flavors as Ice creams at Baskin Robbins. Not so Mr. IH.

    ISLAM IS A WAY OF LIFE AS PRESCRIBED BY THE QURAN AND THE AUTHENTIC HADEETHS. Please brush up on your islamic knowledge before polluting our non-muslim brethern with your corrupt comments.

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      I second that.

      Islam is the religion of peace sent to all of mankind. It is a case of complete submission to the one and true God – Allah, and accepting Prophet Muhammed (Sal.) as His last and final Messenger. That’s it. Everything else is secondary.

      In this respect, Islam is practical, practicable and is not be a burden for Muslims to practice. Wahabis, Salafis, Sunnis, Shias, Thareekas and Ahmadiyas and God knows who or what else is out there (new names keep popping up from time to time) are all side shows, with their own interpretations of the same thing, on the road to discover their heavenly abodes. Only Allah will decide everyone’s fate depending on their faith.

      On the question of the beard for men, it was meant for men to grow as they have been blessed with it. It is only proper to groom it and maintain it, and openly display it to indicate their manliness. It is not meant to be shaven off and be mistakenly identified with the similarity or likeliness of a women. Women on the other hand were bestowed with natural beauty in their every aspect (eyes, hair, skin tone, nails, elegance and style in talking and walking to behold any man) and were ordered to safeguard that gift of beauty to please their husband and solely for his pleasure only. It was not meant to flaunt it cheaply and openly as common public property. So their dress code in black and loose clothing was meant to do just that. It did not come from Wahabism, but the Sunnah’s (practices) of the Prophet and members of his household. So all Mus-ims living all over the world, make every effort to emulate him in every-way they possibly can.

      This is only to address some of the issues raised by this writer in his suggestions that these practices originated from Wahabism, and to put things in the right perspective.

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        Pretty simple as I thought. Did you miss praying or is it included in the submission to God?

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    Idol worshippers prepare your self for hell.
    Death is certain, nobody can deny.
    Hell is not a coffee shop like what the western media wants to portray.
    Hell is a oven, fuel is the unbelieving soul,idol worshiper and all the devients
    Who have not accepted Islam.
    This is certain

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      Jehan

      “Idol worshippers prepare your self for hell. Death is certain, nobody can deny.”

      Why Idol Worship a stone, for giving an economic incentive to the Qureshi-Wahhabis, in order to keep the Pagan Arab traditions, when they had 360 Idols at the Kabba? Still going around the center of Idol Worship?

      Does a meteorite represent God? If so, would you accept, moving the merorite away from Kabba and put it in Medina, Jerusalem, Istanbul, etc?

      For the Devil, gave some Pillars for Iblis, Satan and stone them.

      What about Al-Lat and Al-‘Uzzá Daughter. Uzza, Manet and Manāt,?

      In its essential form, the story reports that Muhammad longed to convert his kinsmen and neighbors of Mecca to Islam. As he was reciting Sūra an-Najm, considered a revelation by the angel Gabriel, Satan tempted him to utter the following lines after verses 19 and 20:

      Have ye thought upon Al-Lat and Al-‘Uzzá
      and Manāt, the third, the other?

      These are the exalted gharāniq, whose intercession is hoped for.

      Allāt, al-‘Uzzā and Manāt were three goddesses worshipped by the Meccans.

      Discerning the meaning of “gharāniq” is difficult, as it is a hapax legomenon (i.e. only used once in the text). Commentators wrote that it meant the cranes. The Arabic word does generally mean a “crane” – appearing in the singular as ghirnīq, ghurnūq, ghirnawq and ghurnayq, and the word has cousin forms in other words for birds, including “raven, crow” and “eagle”.

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    It was first Islamic Fundamentalism, now it is Wahabism. What is it? Bensen

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      Bensen Berner

      “It was first Islamic Fundamentalism, now it is Wahabism. What is it? Bensen”

      Wahhabism, and Wahhabis and their clones spawned Islamic Fundamentalism.

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    Mr Hussain, Sir.

    There are two key points mentioned in your article that you may need to re-visit.

    Firstly, that ‘there are two significant physical markers of Wahabism: long beards and females who are robed in black burqas’. As it is stated, this sweeping statement creates and strengthens the impression, specially among non-Muslims, that all males with long beards and all black burqa wearing females are adherents of Wahabism, which is clearly incorrect. In fact even Commentator Rajash has questioned the validity of the converse of this statement.

    Secondly, that ‘there is now wide currency for the notion that it is not for every Dick, Tom, and Harry to interpret the Koran’. As you are undoubtedly aware the interpretation of the Quran was the responsible of qualified Mujtahids using the processes of Ijma, Qiyas and Ijtihad, until the 11th or 12th Century, when following the pronouncement of Al-Ghazali to the effect that ‘revelation is more important than reasoning’, the Ulemas of the Sunni sect ‘closed the doors of Ijtihad’ and advocated the use of ‘taqlid’ (blind obedience) for purposes of future interpretation.

    If as you propose, every Ahmed, Yusuf and Izzeth is permitted to interpret the Quran the resulting chaos could only destroy Islam, aided by interpretations by every Tom, Dick, Harry, Tuan, Rohan and Murugiah, with each such interpreter striving to build his or her own coterie of followers.

    The answer is to fight for the re-opening of the ‘doors of Ijtihad’, which the Sunni Ulema are resisting, so that our present-day qualified Mujtihads could interpret the Quran, the Hadith and the Sunnah in the light of modern knowledge and developments.

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    IH

    If you don’t know a subject fully better to leave it rather than showing your ignorance.

    Doing nothing is better than being busy doing nothing. I hope by now you would have realized that you can’t please everyone.

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    I am amazed there are people still claiming Islam is a religion of peace. From the outset of the split between the Sunnis and the Shias, they have been killing each other in the name of Islam. Even now, the Saudis (Sunni stronghold) have beheaded more people than the ISIS but their petrodollars guards them against being branded barbarians.

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    Everytime you bring your senile fingers to the keyboard you bring disgrace to the Sri Lanka Muslim Community. Your senile brain is way past its usefulness. You are a senile has been who seeks recognition. You have earned recognition as a charlatan. You know nothing about Islam. I say to you STFU.

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      Ahmed Reza

      ” …Your senile brain is way past its usefulness. You are a senile has been who seeks recognition. You have earned recognition as a charlatan. You know nothing about Islam. I say to you STFU. “

      Please go in front of a mirror. You will have your answers..

      In the meantime, Amarasiri has been looking for some answers, and no Sri Slankan Iblis-Satan Following Wahhabi or its clones have given an answer, without beating about the bush.

      Can you or someone you know, given an answer to Amarasiri, and satisfy his curiosity.

      Amarasiri’s question was:

      “What did Shaik Muhammad Abdul Wahab teach the Meccan and Medina Quran’s did NOT teach? Call other Muslims Non-Muslims and Kill them, based on instructions from Iblis, Satan. Examples are killing of Shia Muslims, Sufi Muslims, Ahmedia Muslims, Christians, Jews and other people.”

      Nobody is answering Amarasiri’s question.

      So far no Wahhabies and their clones have answered. Cb you?

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        Amarasiri the Cut & Paste specialist goes off again and again. The IQ must be 23 and half and the brain so empty to have that much time to be cutting so much irrelevant stuff to paste.

        He must at least know that empty vessels make the biggest noise. Izzeth Hoo and Amarasiri are twin brothers.

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          Ahmed Reza and Other Wahhabi Clone Followers,

          1. “Amarasiri the Cut & Paste specialist goes off again and again. The IQ must be 23 and half and the brain so empty to have that much time to be cutting so much irrelevant stuff to paste. “

          2. ” He must at least know that empty vessels make the biggest noise. Izzeth Hoo and Amarasiri are twin brothers”

          RE: 1 above, can you please help out Amarasiri’s dilemma on the Iblis-Following Wahhabi quandary by answering the question Amarasiri has:’

          “What did Shaik Muhammad Abdul Wahab teach the Meccan and Medina Quran’s did NOT teach? Call other Muslims Non-Muslims and Kill them, based on instructions from Iblis, Satan. Examples are killing of Shia Muslims, Sufi Muslims, Ahmedia Muslims, Christians, Jews and other people.”

          Nobody is answering Amarasiri’s question, and Amarasiri is puzzled. Is it because the average IQ of those who follow Wahhabi-Iblis is around 23? If not. they should have answered Amarasiri’s simple question by now.

          In Sinhala they say, when they asked a low IQ guy: “Kodeda Yanne” Where are you going and he replied “Malle Pol”, Coconuts in the sack.

          Can you, or any of your Iblis-Wahhabi following believers answer the simple question above.

          RE: 2 above, Yes, Amarasiri knows empty vessels make the biggest noise, as has been shown by the Iblis, Satan Following Wahhabies and their Clones such as Salafis, Tauheed, Najadis, ISIS, ISIL, Taliban, Deobandis, Boko Harams etc. Have you heard about the noise made by the other Muslims other than the above Satan followers, the Wahhabis and their Clones?

          RE 2. “Izzeth Hoo and Amarasiri are twin brothers”

          This is indeed news to Amarsiri and Izeth Hussein. This is yet another example of the The Wahhabies and their clones being misled by the Iblis, Satan Devil, so that they will also end up with Iblis in Hell Fire on the day of Judgement, as per Islamic Theology.

          Have you considered giving up Iblis-Wahhabism and move away from the Hate preached by Iblis-Wahhabies and move towards love of God like Sufism? It will certainly save you from Hell Fire.

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