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Violence Against Muslims And The Character Of The BBS

By Laksiri Fernando

Dr. Laksiri Fernando

Dr. Laksiri Fernando

After the organized violent attacks on the Muslim community in Aluthgama, Beruwala and Dharga town in mid-June, the political character of the Bodu Bala Sena (BBS) has come to the sharp focus. Some have condemned it as ‘terrorist’ and some others as ‘fascist’. All are fine as political rhetoric or words of strong condemnation of the heinous crimes that they have committed against the Muslim community. The acts in fact are both ‘terrorist’ and ‘fascist’ in soft meanings of the terms.

However, one central question posed is whether there is a need ‘to unite with the Devil’s grandmother,’ whoever she is, in the struggle against the BBS. I am particularly referring to Dayan Jayatilleka’s first article, “Is the BBS the Boss?” This united front proposition has been brought to the public discussion by portraying the BBS as a ‘clerical fascist organization’ going against the government for state power of its own, and posing a threat to the present ‘democratic’ regime. The danger of such an analysis, in haste perhaps or with different political motives, is not only that the formation of a viable opposition to the present anti-democratic regime is seriously undermined but also the actual power bases of the BBS or root causes are confused and camouflaged.

The Beast

Aluthgama violence is not the beginning or the end of recent acts of violence against the Muslim community by the BBS. It is undoubtedly the major single incident so far. The previous events and incidents are well recorded. Within barely a week of Aluthgama, a Muslim owned shop at Panadura has been set on fire. Parallel to the previous attacks on the Muslim community, their places of worship and business premises, there had also been a spate violence and incidents attacking the religious places and personnel of some Christian communities. Similar has been the atrocities committed against the Hindu Temples particularly in the North and the East.

BBS MonksThe formation of the BBS in 2012 has been the culmination of an ideology and a sentiment evolving particularly after the defeat of the LTTE in May 2009. That is the ideology of ‘triumphalism’ and Sinhala Buddhist ethno-nationalism in a new form and at a new height. The intended defeat of ‘terrorism’ has been conveniently turned into a defeat of an ethnic and a religious minority. What the army did in Nandikadal is being reenacted in small measures by the BBS in different forms. It is important to note that Gnanasara thera in his Aluthgama speech equated the situation there to Nandikadal.

There had been debates about whether the Tamils and the Muslims could be considered equal in status and dignity to the Sinhalese as groups in a plural and a multi-cultural society in Sri Lanka and in what form. It’s a question of group rights in human rights parlance which I am familiar with. There has been strong views expressed claiming that their place is only as ‘minorities’ or ‘minority ethnicities.’ The President has never explained what he actually meant by ‘there are no minorities in this country’ in one of his speeches after the end of the war. He did say though that ‘all are equal.’ ‘No minorities’ could mean the eradication of their identities as Gnanasara thera wanted to change the name of Dharga town in his provocative speech before the violent attacks.

It is fairly clear that the main ideology of the BBS is emerging from or consonant with Mahinda Chinthana (MC) 2010 and its practice. The longer roots even could be traced back to Anagarika Dharmapala, rejuvenated on and off through various forms of Sinhala Buddhist ethno-nationalism time and again. Perhaps many people did not notice what President said in respect of the State and Religion in MC 2010. He said, “While protecting and safeguarding all religions, I will accord Buddhism pride of place as the State Religion” (p.24; my emphasis). In the Constitution, Buddhism is still not the state religion.

The BBS undoubtedly wants to take Rajapaksa ‘triumphalism,’ more faithfully, to its logical conclusion. That is how it got their patronage when the BBS Training Center (misnamed Meth Madura) was inaugurated in Galle in March 2013. They have been in dialogue with each other on many matters since then. Even this dialogue was extended to the UNP and the military. In promoting Sinhala Buddhist ethno-nationalism, Rajapaksa machinations are however more sophisticated, subtle and nuanced. The BBS behavior is crude and pathetically unsophisticated. In that sense there can be on and off frictions or even conflicts between the two. But most definitely the BBS is a ‘flanker’ of the present regime. They play in front against the minorities.

There is no doubt that the BBS has its own political ambitions. After all, both Ven. Kirama Wimalajothi and Gnanasara thera were in the JHU before and broke away for seeking a more radical and a militant path for their cause. The cause is nothing but to cut the minorities into size. Gnanasara thera has always been more vocal than Ven. Wimalajothi expressing grievances even on ‘caste and class’ lines. While the BBS might be mainly funded by the Sinhala businessmen and competing clothing networks to ‘NOLIMIT’ and such Muslim enterprises, the violent mob base appears to come from the most neglected and lumpen sections of society due to the ongoing lopsided economic development. In that sense there is a semblance of a neo-fascist base.

Theocratic Fascism?

There is a theory of ‘theocratic fascism’ in Dayan’s exaggerated analysis. The key explanation of the BBS is the following paragraph.

“The claim of ownership of the state is made in ethno religious terms, that of Sinhala Buddhism.  That however, is a disguise. The real claim is that a definite social stratum is the legitimate owner of the state and should therefore be able to prescribe the state’s policy and practice. The aim and claim is to direct the state. The stratum on behalf of which the BBS stakes this claim is the Sinhala Buddhist clergy.”

According to the above explanation, the claimed ethno religious ‘ism’ or ‘Sinhala Buddhism’ is a disguise. Disguise for what? It’s a disguise for a ‘definite social stratum,’ according to Dayan, and that is the (Sinhala) Buddhist clergy. As far as I am aware, the Buddhist clergy has never claimed the ownership of the state and the BBS might not be able to do so either. The survival of the BBS and their cause depend on the exaggerated or mistaken grievances of the Sinhala Buddhists and their claim for the hegemonic position not only within the state but also within the socio-economic system. That is why they attack Muslim business enterprises.

There is no question that they do claim a right to ‘prescribe state’s policy and practice’ which the two major political parties, both the SLFP and the UNP, invariably accept and that has been a major obstacle for unravelling the ethnic question in Sri Lanka. Whatever the positive role that the clergy must have played in the ancient past, their claimed role or influence in state policy today is detrimental and utterly reactionary. I however don’t see any possibility, at least in the foreseeable future, the Buddhist clergy as a ‘social stratum’ taking over the state power. As far as I am aware, the Buddhist clergy is heterogeneous, disunited and even amorphous. What Dayan described a year ago as ‘ethno-religious fascism,’ to explain the ideology and activities of the BBS might be more appropriate than his current hasty theory of ‘theocratic fascism.’

‘Theocratic fascism’ does appear to be the direct transportation of what was termed as ‘clerical fascism’ in the Interwar Europe. But they were mainly the movements which were appendages to the main Fascist or Nazi movements. Only rarely they ascended as independent movements in some Eastern European countries. Yet, those were mainly identified by the ideology and not the stratum. The following was what John Pollard (In Matthew Feldman (ed.), “Clerical Fascism in Interwar Europe”) said about these movements in respect of Italy.

“The term ‘clerical fascist’ may be attached as a label to individuals, members of the clergy or laity, who were ‘fellow travelers,’ or in Italy, ‘flankers,’ of fascism. Some became fully paid up members of fascist movements. Others remained outside, or belonged to separate movements that gave support to fascism.”

In Sri Lanka, at present, there is no fully fledged fascist movement and the conditions are different to interwar Europe. However, there is a strong ethno-nationalist movement of the Sinhala Buddhist strand, patronized by the state itself. This is of course apart from similar sentiments or movements of ethno-religious nature among the minorities, both the Tamils and the Muslims. The rhetoric, ideology and violence perpetrated by the BBS should be understood in that context, and not apart. The ethno-nationalist project perpetuated by the present regime, particularly after May 2009, is the main element in this context. It is apparent that some are ‘fellow travelers,’ some are ‘flankers’ and some are even ‘on the payroll.’

How to Beat It?

There is no question that there has been a considerable apathy and hesitation on the part of the opposition to come up with a strong denunciation, let alone resistance, to the BBS activities and violence, in Aluthgama or even before. In that sense, there could have been justification of denouncing the BBS as Fascist. Even in Ven. Wimalajothi’s words, the ‘horse has bolted.’ This must be the same feeling on the part of the government or more precisely the Rajapaksas. They have opened the gate or even the floodgates. The bolted horse might play havoc detrimental to the economic project of the Rajapaksas, and that they might contain or control.

However to say that “After Gnanasara’s speech and the violence in Aluthgama, there is a clear conflict of interest between the ruler(s) and the BBS, which presents itself as a contender for the role of who should direct the state and whom the State apparatus should obey” is an utter exaggeration on Dayan’s part.

At the UPFA party leaders meeting after Aluthgama, the President has very clearly ruled out the banning of the BBS as suggested by some Muslim Ministers. During his visit to the scene of the carnage on that Wednesday, even he has pointed his finger at ‘defeated opposition politicians,’ for creating trouble. There is a possibility of mini-reenactment of what JR did to the opposition after July 1983. The government as a whole, including the left and minority leaders within the UPFA, have not taken the incidents very seriously. This is what the opposition should utilize in mobilizing the democratic forces and not forging a united front with the government or any faction of it. Their culpability is more obvious than their lapses. But unfortunately, or at least so far, even the SI candidate, Ven. Maduluwawe Sobitha thera, has not come up in denouncing the violence against the Muslims.

The inciting speech of Gnanasara thera at Aluthgama was good enough to arrest him under the prevailing laws of the country. The BASL has very clearly pointed this out. An analysis of his speech might be necessary for the ‘long term predictions’ but most importantly, call for his arrest or apprehension was more pertinent. That is how a struggle against a fascist threat should begin to my knowledge according ‘Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin or even Gramsci.’ The fact of the matter is that the BBS is not against the government but against the Muslims and the minorities.

It is so obvious that the Police allowed that provocative meeting to take place on that tragic Sunday, 15 June. According to The Nation newspaper, the STF was instructed to protect the procession which marched towards Dharga town, after the meeting, but nothing else. Then the IGP came and stated that a monk has been assaulted. That is why the call for the IGP’s resignation or removal was in order. Then the President went on the same lines and blamed both sides for the incidents at the Cabinet meeting.

As far as the present regime is in power, including MR, incidents like Aluthgama might be difficult to prevent or curtail. All the possibilities of replacing the regime (however meagre at present) should be utilized through democratic means. Any attempt at extra-parliamentary measures would be both suicidal and playing directly into their ploy. Dayna’s analysis at least at the beginning in the second article, “No Limits,” might be more plausible than the first one when he says the following.

“To me what seems to be happening is that someone or something is stepping up the pace or is out of control. This is eerily reminiscent of violent neo-fascist movement in Italy in the 1970s [1930s], which committed acts of terrorism as part of what it termed ‘a strategy of tension’. What is most troubling is the possible existence of Sinhala-Buddhist terrorist cells and their possible embedding within, interface with and resonance in the State apparatus itself.”

The situation undoubtedly is partly ‘out of control.’ But that is also the style of a ‘Bonaparte’ like Mahinda Rajapaksa. Someone also might be ‘stepping up the pace.’ That is also almost sure. The regime, including or at the hegemon of MR, may need a more authoritarian apparatus than the present, to remain in power and to achieve its economic and (family) power objectives. I do however disagree with the close comparison to the Fascist ascendancy in Italy of the 1930s while there can be certain resemblances.

The ‘strategic tensions’ created through BBS are used in my opinion to bring the Military into the picture and not Fascism as such. As Gnanasara thera said, it is Ape Sinhala Hamudawa (Our Sinhala Army). To come back to the question of ‘how to beat it,’ my answer is there is no point in ‘uniting with Devil’s grandmother’ as she is sleeping happily with the BBS! If stern measures are taken against the BBS, but not to prop up the Military, those can be supported conditionally.

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    Thank you for removing the confusion maliciously created by Dayan to protect the regime.
    So, in essence the attacks on Tamil businesses of 50s, 70s and 80s are repeated now on Muslim businesses.

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      Dr. Laksiri Fernando,,

      We all know that the Monks and, the Sinhala and Sinhalese Buddhist are Para from Iouth India.

      You had a write-up up on that.

      Let us promote that, and get their DNA tested.

      Call a Spade, a Spade. Call, a Para, a Para.

      The Genetic affinities of Sri Lankan populations

      http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2007/6/15923_space.html

  • 22
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    We don’t have to point the finger at the BBS, look what Asgiriya Mahanayake, the Snhala Buddhist extremist has said:

    Justice Minister Hakeem must give up office, he says:

    In my opinion there is only slight differences among the BBS, the government and the Mahanayakes – they are all terrorists or instigators of terrorist.

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      Thiru

      “In my opinion there is only slight differences among the BBS, the government and the Mahanayakes – they are all terrorists or instigators of terrorist. “

      They all are terrorists, painting themselves Buddhist in order to maintain their hegemony..

      They follow Mara who opposed Buddha and now follow MaRa, in the Land of native Veddah, and believes in thne lies and imaginations pf Para-monk Mahanama.

  • 12
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    Terrorist and Facist BBS cannot do much damage without the tacit approval of the Defence Secretary. After the destruction of Mosques, churches, temples and Muslim businesses the powerful Secretary appeared in the same platform and even the recent incidents were made possible with the approval of the police. The police prevented the peaceful marches of trade unions, university students and commemoration of deaths of loved ones in the north but permitted this meeting and marches of racist BBS in spite of warnings and alarm raised by the Muslim community. The police and military shot dead trade unionists and common people when protesting against pollution of drinking water but watched as spectators when BBS torched, looted and destroyed Mosques and dwellings and business complex of Muslims.

  • 9
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    There is no difference between the BBS and the government. The question is which is part of the other? Dayan was only trying to confuse his readers differentiating the government from the BBS. Thank you, Laksiri for this enlightening article!

    Sengodan. M

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    Reading Laksiri, I am now reminded of why Trotsky had so much trouble in convincing the ultra-left of the discontinuities between fascism and normal capitalist rule, in his brilliant pieces on fascism and the united front written between 1929 and 1933; why Dmitrov had to wage such a fierce ideological struggle to get the anti-fascist Popular Front accepted; why the Soviet Communist volunteers had to fight on two fronts in Spain –against fascism and the anarcho-Trotskyists; why Gramsci had to go to such lengths to reject the strategy of frontal assault and emphasize the importance of the nation and the ‘national’; and why Mao and Ho Chi Minh advocated and practised united fronts even with the national bourgeoisie while excluding and suppressing the Trotskyists.

    • 9
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      What is your point Dayan? Unlike you Dr LF has no agenda; he does not broadcast his past achievements incessantly; his interest in ameliorating the current situation in SL is genuine and sincere.

    • 12
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      DJ,
      You always quote from Trotsky,…. Why do not you quote some thing from BUDDHA? my believe is that would be simple to understand.

    • 8
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      DAYAN, I am glad you are reading all the comments. You are entitled to your opinion by virtue of the fact that guilty conscience pricks your mind. I love reading the REAL Dr. Laksiri Fernando’s articles. Please consider being a contributory factor to the “Daily Noise” as well.

    • 12
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      If Dayan really believes the BBS as a fascist movement and wants to analyze the situation in purely Marxist terms (I am not doing that), the first thing he should do is the ‘revolutionary mobilization of the workers.’ The following was what Trotsky said about people who depend on the ‘State’ or the ‘Presidents’ in countering fascism in his “Fascism: What it is and How to fight it.” (p.21).

      “Fearful of the revolutionary mobilization of the workers, the Italian reformists banked all their hopes on the “state.” Their slogan was, “Help! Victor Emmanuel, exert pressure!” The German social democracy lacks such a democratic bulwark as a monarch loyal to the constitution. So they must be content with a President – “Help! Hindenburg, exert pressure!”

      • 5
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        Dayan in his usual form has posted the same article on Groundviews.

        Hopefully yours will appear there too so that GV readers can see your point by point rebuttal of DJ !

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      DJ:
      What has your comment do with anything that LF wrote?You must resist the temptation to display your reading list and further more your pedantry does not contribute anything to the issue in hand.It is late in the day and the forces of darkness are enveloping the land and all you can come up this arrant nonsense.

  • 8
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    The situation is totally out of control. Has the Colombo Telegraph being threatened as well of reporting attacks yesterday in Kurunegala, Pannala and Ibbagamuwa mosques, Muslim owned shops and Muslim residences. No wonder the media is threatened as well.

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    Violence against Muslims and Tamils by Buddhist Sinhala cannot be stopped by democratic means within Sri Lanka. The same tactics is used again and again by Sinhala Buddhists whether it is SLFP or UNP or Leftists. All are from the same blood. Force is the only way you can stop the violence against weaker communities by Sinhala Buddhists. The earlier Indian intervention and the strong LTTE Force was almost put a holt on the Sinhala Buddhist violence, unfortunately international intervention and Sonia Gandhi’s anti Tamil stand destroyed everything. However, the situation is changing and opportunity is arising and the weaker communities should get together and become a new force, gather international support and Indian assistance to stop the violence.

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      Ajith,

      You write ” Force is the only way you can stop the violence against weaker communities by Sinhala Buddhists”.

      Sinhala Buddhists are more forceful than “weaker communities” or ethnic / religious minorities. Moreover no country will support violence exerted by ethnic minorities. Martin Luther King (US) argued with forceful black youths who preferred violence to King’s peaceful means to fight against white supremacy and discrimination. In US white : Black = 80%:20%. He argued even if 20% destroys 20% of whites 60% would still prevail against zero blacks. The most optimistic equation in Sri Lanka is 75% – 25% = 50%. That means no ethnic minorities left. This is what Sinhala -Buddhist government or BBS wants.

      Do not waste even a split of a second in engaging thoughts of violence as a means of winning the rights of ethnic minorities. Instead harness and mobilise the support of the international community (IC) to urge the leaders of the ethnic majority to treat all Sri Lankans as equals. This is the time to get the benefit of internationalising the problem of domination. IC in general and US in particular feel guilty of listening to the government and helping it to eliminate LTTE without any solution in return.

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        Saro,

        There is a difference between Force and Violence. You are talking about numbers and there is no logic in arguing that more numbers mean more power. Unity is the power that is necessary now. Armed struggle is also one form of Force if that is for the right cause.

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    laksiri [Edited out]

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    Very good analysis. Banning the BBS will only make them martyrs amongst the Sinhala Buddhist chauvinists the support base of the Rajapaksa regime. Further they have the protection of Gotabhaya the secretary for defence.Any Tamil movement can be banned or proscibed but not any of those of the Sinhala polity. Bensen

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    ela kolla is blindly bias and for him always 2+2=5 That is why his comment has been edited. He has nothing good in his head. He is living in the well like a gamba not knowing what is happening around him in the day light.Perhaps I also wonder if he is blind and deaf. May be he joined BBS in Norway tour and got training how to attack people.

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    The military in Jaffna has responded in its own way to protests by university students:-
    http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=37270
    against the attacks on muslims.

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    We are now compelled to believe that the BBS has blessings of the 90% Buddhist priests . No Buddhist priest has issued a statement so far, condemning the attacks on Muslims by the BBS. Only two priests ,the Chief priest of Ramagngna Nikaya and Ven kamburupitiye Wajira Thera said the attacks were wrong.
    Instead Asgiriya chapter priests have blamed Hakeem for asking the world’s support for the protection of Muslims.
    I do not think there is any doubt that the majority of Buddhist priests in Sri Lanka have become the enemies of the Buddha’s teachings .
    Is there any difference between BBS and Taleban?
    is there any difference between Galaboda Aththe Gnanasara and Bin Laden?
    Is there any difference between Buddhist extremists and Muslim extremists?
    Is there any difference between pseudo Buddhists and Muslims who do not hesitate to kill others in the name religion?

    • 0
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      lets look at the glass as half full and not half empty..

      is there a SIMILARITY between galabodaththe and wirathu?
      is there a SIMILARITY between galabodaththe and Champuka Kana-bokka?
      is there a SIMILARITY between galabodaththe and Ravaya Balaya?
      is there a SIMILARITY between galabodaththe and Gamanpila?
      is there a SIMILARITY between galabodaththe and Goat-a-baya?
      is there a SIMILARITY between galabodaththe and Sinhala Urumaya?

      Those who said YES…ya’ll are people with a soul… pat yourselves on ur back.. oh wait..dont… the SL Police might say you hurt yourselves like how they said Respected Rev.. Watareka Vijitha tied his hands behind himself and cut himself with a key… and arrest all of YOU..

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    Prof Laksiri Fernando has a very telling and symptomatic sentence in his article which is among other things a critique of my line. This sentence marks a clear firewall between his perspective and mine. Laksiri writes: “What the army did in Nandikadal is being reenacted in small measures by the BBS in different forms.”

    What is one to make of this? If as Laksiri says, “what the army did in nandikadal is what is being reenacted in small measures by the BBS in different forms”, then there are one of two conclusions to draw. These are as follows;

    Either (a) Laksiri approves of what the army did in Nandikadal and also what the BBS is reenacting in small measures or (b) Laksiri disapproves of what the army did in Nandikadal and what the BBS id reenacting in small measures.”

    Now which is it? Obviously, since (i) Laksiri disapproves of/opposes what the BBS is doing and (ii) because he sees what they are doing as a ‘reenacting’ of what the army did in Nandikadal, the only logical conclusion is that Laksiri disapproves, nay, opposes, what the army did in Nandikadal!

    THAT is the crucial difference between my line and that of Laksiri and his co-thinkers who are critical of my line on the BBS.

    WHAT DID THE ARMY DO IN NANDIKADAL THAT LAKSIRI OPPOSES? WHAT DOES HE REGARD AS A REENACTMENT IN SMALL DEGREES BY THE BBS?

    As far as I am concerned, what the army did in Nandikadal was to crush the fascistic secessionist-terrorist LTTE and eliminate its Hitlerian leadership. Whatever other crimes were committed, they were not as far as I know, against innocent unarmed civilians. Though there may have been crimes against captured Tigers, such crimes were entirely secondary to the historic and political character and importance of ‘what the army did in Nandikadal’.

    I support, endorse and applaud “what the army did in Nandikadal” to free the country and its people from the Tigers. It was a long awaited fulfilment of the hopes of the mass of our citizens ( not to mention the Indian state). It was a courageous and superb military victory. I am proud of it and grateful for it.

    How could anyone with an anti-Tiger bone in his or her body, oppose what the army did in Nandikadal? How can anyone who does not applaud the military crushing and decapitation of the Tigers by the army at Nandikadal consider himself or be considered an anti-fascist?

    It is the biggest compliment to the BBS to define what they are now doing as a “reenactment” of “what the army did in Nandikadal”.

    Indeed what the BBS is now doing, in small degrees, is the exact opposite of what the army did in Nandikadal and directly undermines that victory as well as the strategic position of the army that achieved it.

    No wonder there is no resonance among the masses of people for the narrow sectarian ultra-leftism and lack of patriotism of the likes of Laksiri. A perspective such as his and that of his co-thinkers will never help defeat the BBS and only provides an easy target for the likes of the BBS, Champika and Wimal Weeranwansa.

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      What happened in Aluthgama is reenactment of what happened in Nandikadal. No denial of that. You are jumping up and down here because in that humanitarian liberation war the army liberated 147,000 to the other world and you argued at UNHRC with your Royal government as zero casualty. Now your problem is somebody on the inquiry going to saw exactly how 147,000 people were kept away from international view by the murderous army and killed without food-water, medicine and other basic facilities with the Cluster bombs, chemical bombs and thermobaric bombs.

      Further, here, you are using your dirty way to gain support for your evil theories by portraying others as anti-Buddhist, anti-Sinhalese if they criticize the way the army behaved in Nandikadal. You are selecting and labeling people for BBS and white van. Last time when you played this nasty game, Dr.Laksiri withdraw form the discussion. As low class politician, you have learned that trick and reusing it. Using the Sinhala-Buddhist sentiments to make other political opinions as anti-Lanka, is dirty game learned by the Sinhala Chauvinist pundits and politicians. Chauvinist pundit like you have done serious damage to Lanka by playing games for personal fame and fortune, using the sentiments of Mahavamsa Modaya crowd.You are shamelessly using it here like CT where everybody’s opinion is respected.

      You can defend in any way. But two days ago, An American-UN diplomat has said “by not allowing to investigate the Nandikadal, the Royal Government has joined the club of Iran, North Korea and Syria” those are the most humanistic countries in the world and friens of Lanka, in you way of talking. You can not deny that because it is the world’s opinion. Lanka was like South Korea in 1956. The low class politics pampered and nurtured by chauvinist pundits have taken it to the North Korea level. Now it is officially accepted by World diplomats.

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      You suddenly woke-up from coma one fine morning and wailed in CT that “If army could do this to Sinhalese what it could have done to Tamils” I think LF too thinks that if BBS ( alongside STF) had meted out an organised pogrom, defintely he has a valid point in his thinking that army would have committed far more serious crimes during at the height of the war.
      You simply play with words in every article.

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      “No wonder there is no resonance among the masses of people for the narrow sectarian ultra-leftism and lack of patriotism of the likes of Laksiri.”

      Classic get out material “lack of patriotism”. How do you know that you are more patriotic than Dr LF? On what basis did you measure the level of patriotism? Once cornered, you employ George W Bush’s doctrine; you are either with us or not! All those who are not with you are unpatriotic; how pathetic! You call yourself an intellectual with this lofted sanctimonious pompous drivels!

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      DJ,

      Did not you know what happened in Nandikadal? So many innocent Tamils were killed, women were raped,…..schools were bombed, hospitals were bombed, Tamils were starved of food, medicine
      http://white-flags.org/
      http://warwithoutwitness.com/
      http://www.channel4.com/programmes/sri-lankas-killing-fields
      http://nofirezone.org/

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      What the army did in Nanthikadal is the same as what the BBS did in Aluthgama in different scale. The fact is innocent civilians were massacred in large numbers by the Sinhala Buddhist army in Nanthikadal but in small numbers in Aluthgama by BBS. Both were under the orders from Mahinda Rajapakse and Gotapaya Rajapakse. I will challenge you if you are prepared to accept international investigation lead by the UN to carry out proper investigation without any interference.

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      You have no shame Dayan?[Edited out]

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      .
      Nandikadal means not just the last 2 days of war. War of Nandikadal started in 2006 with white vans going around in the East.
      People were taken away and murdered.

      And DJ, I remember you approved this culture by saying terror must be met with terror.

      You were part of the Team that planted the seeds and today paying for it.

      :-)

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      My critique of Dayan was on the character of the BBS but he is conveniently harping on a sentence in isolation. If one has a difficulty in understanding a sentence, while I don’t believe that is the case, one should take at least the sentence before and after. Below are the three sentences for the readers’ perusal again.

      “The intended defeat of ‘terrorism’ has been conveniently turned into a defeat of an ethnic and a religious minority. What the army did in Nandikadal is being reenacted in small measures by the BBS in different forms. It is important to note that Gnanasara thera in his Aluthgama speech equated the situation there to Nandikadal.”

      I do stand by my middle sentence even alone. It’s true, it is a firewall between his perspective and mine. But more pertinent to this firewall is the sentence before: “The intended defeat of ‘terrorism’ has been conveniently turned into a defeat of an ethnic and a religious minority.” This is the post war reality. I was mainly referring to the Tamil community.

      There seems to be at least three kinds of people who have supported the government or military effort to defeat the LTTE. (1) To defeat terrorism (2) To defeat Tamils (3) To defeat both terrorism and Tamils. Dayan should decide to what category he belongs. He seems to be wavering in my reading of his writings. In my case, I supported the government and the military effort on the premise of (1), even that on condition of postwar reconciliation. But when I came to realize some of the crimes in Nandikadal, I have become critical and asking the government to account for. It is true that Nandikadal is no longer of my appreciation. By then the army had already won the war. I don’t have the full facts, but I do disapprove the crimes that alleged to have happened in Nandikadal. At least the army and the government denies them. Dayan doesn’t. He approves them on the basis that they “were entirely secondary to the historic and political character and importance of what the army did in Nandikadal” even implicating India into his category. I have never seen this kind of militarist thinking from any other person in recent times.

      Perhaps under the heat of the argument, Dayan has uttered some words which can be construed as personal accusations or insults. Following the Buddha, I don’t reply them, Dayan has to take them back.

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        OK, so let us take Laksiri’s whole paragraph:

        “The intended defeat of ‘terrorism’ has been conveniently turned into a defeat of an ethnic and a religious minority. What the army did in Nandikadal is being reenacted in small measures by the BBS in different forms. It is important to note that Gnanasara thera in his Aluthgama speech equated the situation there to Nandikadal.”

        1. “The intended defeat of ‘terrorism’ has been conveniently turned into a defeat of an ethnic and a religious minority.”

        (a) Why has Laksiri put terrorism within inverted commas? Does he have any doubts that the LTTE was terrorist? If he had no doubts, why didn’t he write the word terrorism without inverted commas?

        (b) When was “the intended defeat of terrorism conveniently turned into a defeat of an ethnic and a religious minority”, and who did it? Was it at Nandikadal itself? Was it by the army?

        2. If not, what made Laksiri write the very next sentence and what is its meaning and relevance? “What the army did in Nandikadal is being reenacted in small measures by the BBS in different forms.”

        If so, then logically, Laksiri who opposes the “intended defeat of terrorism being conveniently turned into the defeat of an ethnic and a religious minority” is opposed to the army’s defeat of the LTTE at Nandikadal. Or is he opposed to it being at Nandikadal rather than some other location? Or does he think it should have happened later?

        3. The third and final sentence of the paragraph that Laksiri quotes reads as follows: “It is important to note that Gnanasara thera in his Aluthgama speech equated the situation there to Nandikadal.”

        (a) If this “is important to note”, it is also important to known whether Laksiri agrees or disagree with Gnanasara’s statement equating his actions and the outcome at Nandikadal?

        (b) If he disagrees with Gnanasara’s “important to note” equation with Nandikadal, why didn’t he say so, and contradict and criticize Gnanasara on this score?

        (c) If he agrees with Gnanasara, then he disapproves of and opposes the victory at Nandikadal, just as he disapproves of and opposes Gnanasara.

        This is not nit-picking. This is an important political pint. People like Laksiri who oppose our victory at Nandikadal or who are unwilling to applaud it, only reveal where they stood and stand on the war, the Tigers and the war’s politico-historic outcome. Therefore they also discredit and undermine the legitimacy of their own justifiable and necessary critique of Gnanasara. In its larger form as the ideology of the opposition UNP, it is this, rather than Sinhala Buddhism, the State or even Mahinda Rajapaksa, that legitimizes the Sinhala religio-racists and delegitimizes their critics.

        This stance can never be the one from which Sinhala racism can be successfully defeated.

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          Dayan is evading again and again defending his ‘theory of BBS fascism’ which I critiqued asking me questions about Nandikadal. Altogether he has 13 questions! He should find all the answers in that paragraph that he has now quoted or the article. But to elaborate to the readers, it is not the army’s defeat of the LTTE that I have questioned but the alleged ‘crimes’ in the process that Dayan also agrees but defends. Dayan takes Nandikadal with all the crimes and Gnanasara goes beyond in enacting its underside. That is the difference between Dayan and Gnanasara. Ideologically both are the same, ethno-nationalists. He calls Gnanasara fascist to differentiate perhaps from latter’s violence or curry favor with the regime. The difference between ethno-nationalism and racism is very thin. If his questioning is not attempted ‘nit picking’ it shows his muddled thinking. He should know that there are several purposes for the use of inverted comas. He can take his own way. I don’t need to repeat again and again where I stood on the question of war. I am not a ‘triumphalist.’ My concern at present is not war but reconciliation. He has repeatedly used “people like Laksiri” or ‘they’ without naming any other. Is this a tactic or a mindset?

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            Dr LF,

            Dayan is being pedantic because he has no defence! This is what happens to people who exhibit duplicity in defence of indefensible!

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            .
            Dr. Fernando, don’t even bother replying to DJ. He is been like ‘this’ lately.

            He is one those who defends the murder of 10 yr old Balachandran saying that there is no guarantee that this boy will not become like his father, and during war times these murders are ‘normal’.

            :-)

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            How can I be evading the issue, when it was Laksiri who wrote a key paragraph, which I excerpted and analysed and posed a few questions frontally, which he has not answered. These questions concern a sentiment or opinion he expressed it writing about the most crucial event in the country’s contemporary history and one of the most crucial in the island’s entire history: Nandikadal.

            Would he please answer them instead of ducking? If not, the reader can conclude who is evading what…and why…:))

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              DJ,

              Have you answered all the questions put to you on CT and Groundviews?

              Did you lie in Geneva?

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      Dr. DJ!
      Aftermath of the Rathupussalawa killings you said if army could kill innocent Sinhalese like that at Rathupussallawa one could imagine how Tamils were treated in the North and East during the war.
      Now Hakeem says two Muslims at Aluthgama have died of gunshot injuries.it is said that BBS thugs did not carry guns. Then who had guns?
      I hope you will not hesitate to guess who shot them dead at Aluthgama.

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      Dayan,

      Nandikadal is described as a collective term implying what happened as an event including decimation of LTTE but not exclusively.

      What the Srlanakan Military/Srilankan state and LTTE allegedly did in the name of fight against terrorism, is under investigation by UNHRC.

      1.Alleged Under reporting of number of civilians living in the area and depriving them of food and medicine leading to death and destruction.

      2.Alleged Indiscriminate Bombing and shelling hospitals Identified by ICRC .

      3.Alleged Indiscriminate Bombing and shelling of areas identified as safe zone/No fire zones designated by Srilankan Govt,Killing civilians.

      4.Alleged White flag incident.

      5.Alleged rape,Maim and Murder of captured/surrendered combatants.

      Killing/destroying LTTE and it’s leadership is not under the purview of investigation,and I don’t think Laksiri is questioning this act as you may want to portray it.

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    BBS ought to be condemned without any reservation. However, acts of violence against the Muslim community may have been carried out by more than one criminal group and may have more than one motive. There is the possibilty that forces opposed to the Government and MR are provoking and committing crimes against the Muslims to gain their support to forge an anti goverment front. I am deeply suspicious that BBS is not alone in tormenting the Muslim community, but there are others locally, western NGOs and the diaspora elements facilitating these horrible acts of violence. Those with the separatist agenda will try to exploit the current situation to their best advantage but their concerns for the innocent Muslim victims are no more than crocodile tears. Next few weeks/months will reveal who else is behind the ugly events.

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    Dayan,

    “As far as I am concerned, what the army did in Nandikadal was to crush the fascistic secessionist-terrorist LTTE and eliminate its Hitlerian leadership.”

    Do you really believe that what the army did in Nandikadal in consultation with GR was “to crush the fascistic secessionist-terrorist LTTE and eliminate its Hitlerian leadership” alone? Yeah; they did eliminate as you suggest, but along with it, thousands of civilians were mercilessly massacred! Dr LF’s point is that, the Aluthgama incident was comparable in the sense that, it was a state orchestrated and reckless act at intimidating the Muslims. What is wrong in that? Of course, Dr LF never question the need to eliminate the LTTE, but how it was done with complete contempt for the fellow countrymen is the point of contention, and not to mention those gruesome and despicable summary executions!

    I have seen you emphatically referring the Nandikadal in response to some of the Tamil participants on Groundviews. You did not stop to think that, one day, you will eat your own words. The impending UN investigation will unravel what really went on in Nandikadal; you cannot quote from Trotsky in mitigation!

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      The decision to fight the armed forces and kill civilians was taken by the LTTE and cowardly thugs within Tamil diaspora. They claimed they were the sole representatives of Tamils. The responsibility for the outcome at Nandikadal solely lies with those morons. If any innocent Tamils civilians died at Nandikadal, then those representatives have to take the blame and not the government or the SL forces. They could have asked the LTTE terrorists to surrender, which they didn’t do. Now, my dear fellow, no good harping about that episode. If you are decent chap meet the relatives of those who perished at Nandikadal and blame the government for what happened and see how you come out of it.
      (by the way are you sure thousands were massacred by the army and not the LTTE terrorists)

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        lal,
        I think it’s very clear that Army killed thousands of civilians. Otherwise why would your SL Govt doesn’t want any internal or external investigations?
        :-)

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        Dear Lal,

        The UN’s Darusman expert panel says the LTTE did not use a Human Shield. Exonerating the LTTE automatically exonerates the Financiers and the living LTTE rump.

        Their confidence is derived from the fact that they have successfully bought Marzuki Darusman, Ms Yasmin Sooka and Steven R. Ratner to bend the ICRC IHL Rule 97, with impunity and produce a report which exonerates the terrorist LTTE of a serious war crime, who the world knows, used a Human Shield.

        Kind Regards,
        OTC

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        Lal loo

        Here is what the habitual liar says about the UN report:

        “The UN’s Darusman expert panel says the LTTE did not use a Human Shield.”

        The title of the report is Report of the Secretary General’s Panel of Expertson Accountability in Sri Lanka

        The report has never been titled Darusman Report in any of the UN’s statements.

        Had he read the report he would have read the title as well.

        By changing the title of the report does he believe he could change the content?

        Do you think an unemployed Darusman got up one morning from the wrong side of his bed and decided to write this report?

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          Dear Tamil Separatist wearing a Veddha Mask,

          Re “The report has never been titled Darusman Report in any of the UN’s statements”

          Yes but you understood what report I was referring to and so did the other CT Readers.

          Re “By changing the title of the report does he believe he could change the content?”

          Oh I don’t want to change the contents, because It is the contents of that report, that DAMNS its writers, Mr. Marzuki Darusman, Ms Yasmin Sooka and Mr. Steven R. Ratner as Bribe Takers.

          I specifically referred to ICRC IHL Rule 97 which is defined here http://www.icrc.org/customary-ihl/eng/docs/v1_cha_chapter32_rule97

          Rule 97. Human Shields
          Rule 97. The use of human shields is prohibited.

          Definition of human shields
          The prohibition of using human shields in the Geneva Conventions, Additional Protocol I and the Statute of the International Criminal Court are couched in terms of using the presence (or movements) of civilians or other protected persons to render certain points or areas (or military forces) immune from military operations. Most examples given in military manuals, or which have been the object of condemnations, have been cases where persons were actually taken to military objectives in order to shield those objectives from attacks. The military manuals of New Zealand and the United Kingdom give as examples the placing of persons in or next to ammunition trains. There were many condemnations of the threat by Iraq to round up and place prisoners of war and civilians in strategic sites and around military defence points. Other condemnations on the basis of this prohibition related to rounding up civilians and putting them in front of military units in the conflicts in the former Yugoslavia and Liberia.

          In the Review of the Indictments in the Karadžić and Mladić case, the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia qualified physically securing or otherwise holding peacekeeping forces against their will at potential NATO air targets, including ammunition bunkers, a radar site and a communications centre, as using “human shields”.

          It can be concluded that the use of human shields requires an intentional co-location of military objectives and civilians or persons hors de combat with the specific intent of trying to prevent the targeting of those military objectives.

          Please note the Heading used by the ICRC and the text that I have emphasized.

          Now lets see What The Darusman Experts wrote in their report.

          Extract

          1. Using civilians as a human buffer

          237. Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions: Credible allegations point to a violation of Common Article 3’s ban on the taking of hostages insofar as they forced thousands of civilians, often under threat of death, to remain in areas under their control during the last stages of the war and enforced this control by killing persons who attempted to leave that area. (With respect to the credible allegations of the LTTE’s refusal to allow civilians to leave the combat zone, the Panel believes that these actions did not, in law, amount to the use of human shields insofar as it did not find credible evidence of the LTTE deliberately moving civilians towards military targets to protect the latter from attacks as is required by the customary definition of that war crime (Rule 97, ICRC Study)

          End Extract

          Note the CHANGE in the Heading from Shield to Buffer.

          The actual IHL requires ONLY intentional co-location of military objectives and civilians or persons hors de combat with the specific intent of trying to prevent the targeting of those military objectives.

          Which of course the LTTE did. We even have aerial photographs taken by Times of London photographers who overflew the NFZ with Ban Ki Moon, showing military equipment in the NFZ co-located with civilians.

          But Darusman and Company exonerates the LTTE of that war crime claiming FALSELY that the ICRC Rule 97 requires a deliberate movement of Civilians towards military targets which as anyone can see is a BLATANT LIE.

          What made Darusman and Company to EXONERATE the LTTE and hence all LTTE Financiers and the rump LTTE of the War Crime of using Human Shield? What made them to go to the extent of DISREGARDING the actual ICRC International HumanRights Law? What enticed them into CORRUPTING IHL Rule 97?

          Money and Loads of it?

          Re “Here is what the habitual liar says about the UN report”

          The Prawn has Shit in its Head and Tries to pose as a Truthful person!

          This is what this shameless clown wrote.

          On May 25, 2014 at 2:16 pm, “Native Veddha” addressing a comment to Manoharan, wrote “You have great sense of History. I envy you…..The stupid Tamils suffered last time when IPKF arrived because the Sri Lankan armed forces who were supposed to defend this island were found hiding behind their women folks and VP’s fat bottom”

          https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/dear-modi-sri-lankas-aggressive-agenda-to-your-notice/

          Here are the Facts.

          1. The Indian Parippu drop on Jaffna (operation Poomalai) intimidated the Govt of Sri Lanka to end an operation that would have either killed or captured Prabahkaran.

          2. Subsequent to the Parippu drop the SL govt was forced to sign the Indo Lanka Peace accord.

          3. The IPKF was established under the Indo Lanka Peace Accord.

          4. The SL Forces was confined to Barracks under the terms of the same Peace Accord.

          Hence it was IMPOSSIBLE for the SL Forces to confront the IPKF.

          But this idiotic Tamil, masquerading as a Veddha, is writing his usual Fiction. A Prawn with shit in its head!

          Kind Regards,
          OTC

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      In Nandikadal Genocide of Tamils took place. Navi Pilley said that is what was attempted in Aluthgama for Muslims(Genocide). Dhayan has argued earlier that she is a moderate person. Even if Dhayan does not accept it, still her opinion counts in the world arena; Dhayan’s opinion is not. What Dhayan trying do here is by saying “it can be done to Tamils in Nandikadal by Army; but not to Muslims in Aluthgama by BBS”. That is his technique of dividing the Tamils and Muslims in his subtle way.

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    Dr.Laksiri, you say: ” within barely a week of Aluthgama a Muslim owned shop at Panadura has been set on fire ” By whom? How did you come to the hasty conclusion that it was set on fire by the BBS?

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      That is simple, because so far police could not find out who did it.

      You know, when the toddlers steal cookies in the kitchen they do not remember that; and if you inquire them they tell you they do not know; it is just like that the Sri Lankan police can not remember what happened(Salary from tax payers, bribe & looted money). So they could not find out who did it.

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    dr.laksiri, your views are very clear and forthright than what is put forward by dr.dj. they are more informative and educative. djs’ writings are with full of or age old marxist quotations which could be understood only by dj or late shanmugathasan /other leftist luminaries who now no more. the comparison is only academic and reveals the unproductive knowledge of him.it is like brahmins quoting their scriptures dubbed by a dalit prof. as unproductive. at least laxiri gives some ideas to come out of the present calamity. moreover dj appears to have some agenda or vested interest in his writings whereas laxsiris’ writings indicate some personal frustrations over the authorities for not recognizing him in recent times. if i am not mistaken i think it was he who proposed hon. degrees for veterans.
    -sunda

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    Dear Dr. Laksiri Fernando,

    You wrote “Then the IGP came and stated that a monk has been assaulted”

    Ven Samitha the Chief priest of Vijeyaramaya, in Dharga Town, had said that he and his driver was subjected to an attack on Poson Full Moon day (12 June) by 3 Muslim youths. This was apparently a Road Rage attack. He says that he recorded a complaint at the Aluthgama Police station regarding the incident.

    He has also said that about 2 weeks before that, a decapitated Head and the 4 hooves of an Ox was left in front of his temple and that the Police came and removed them after a complaint was lodged with the Aluthgama Police.

    Both of these instances can be verified from Police records.

    In both instances the Police have been lackadaisical in their investigations for reasons best known to the Police.

    You elaborate further and say “That is why the call for the IGP’s resignation or removal was in order”

    By what logic can the IGP be faulted for telling the TRUTH?

    The call for the IGP’s removal is justified for the Police dragging their feet on the above two police complaints and allowing the BBS thugs to have a meeting in Aluthgama but not for telling the TRUTH about the assault by the 3 Muslims on Ven Samitha of Dharga Town.

    Something has been brewing for about 3 weeks and the Riots was its culmination.

    Why does everyone want to suppress the TRUTH?

    Kind Regards,
    OTC

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      “Both of these instances can be verified from Police records.”

      Thank you for that first hand information.

      “Police dragging their feet on the above two police complaints and allowing the BBS thugs to have a meeting in Aluthgama but not for telling the TRUTH”.

      Thanks again. And still let us assume, the “dragging police” wrote the first report honestly and did not cook up on that.

      Let see what you have got here.

      It is in the police record. Is the police denying it as Muslims did not attack the Monk? Then how the Monk and the driver, Muslims youths, the three weeks time to brewing for a road rage, another unrelated thugs BBS meeting was allowed, The STF placed to guard shot to death two Muslims.. all these adding up to a Tamil IGP has to resign. Does the IGP has repeatedly reissue to investigate the complains on each and every police stations? From the time Lanka got the freedom, are there no procedures has been established what the police have to do with a complain sitting in the station? Whey the IGP has to connect a 3 weeks pre-planned road rage with the BBS meeting?

      Why the Police Chief has to resign? Because he is a Tamil?

      Even if some somebody takes your words to 100%, it is apparent you are the one trying to cover up. You people want to get rid of the last Tamil name in the police. Then you are blaming others covering up. The news reported in all the media says IGP has indicated that he was told to allow the BBS meeting and protect the BBS’s parade and nothing else. If you call you are telling the truth, then you are right that others are covering up. But the fact is you appears like real innocent fool! Still I would like to see you writing a open letter Bother Prince on that and we can see what reply you are getting from him.

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        Dear Mallaiyuran,

        You don’t seem to understand English.

        Please get some help before writing again.

        Kind Regards,
        OTC

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          Off the Butt

          Where did you learn English???

          In a night school in London???

          Most of us went to ischool in Siri Lanka where an oxford educated Banda came and replaced English with “Sinhala Only” depriving our chances to write/ispeak like a “suddha”.

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            (:-)

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            Hi Prasad,

            The self confessed Pervert who said “My pants come down only when your women folk’s skirts go up”

            The same Prasad who claimed he did not know who Mr J.L. Devananda is but produced a comment identical word for word with Mr. J.L. Devanada’s essay?

            My reply to you is available here https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/international-inquiry-putting-the-cartwright-before-the-horse/comment-page-2/#comment-1347713

            Re “Where did you learn English???”

            Obviously under a better Teacher than yours, manisekaran’s and Mallaiyuran’s.

            Re “Most of us went to ischool in Siri Lanka where an oxford educated Banda came and replaced English with “Sinhala Only” depriving our chances to write/ispeak like a “suddha”.

            Prasad, the Vernacular does not translate in to “Sinhala Only”. Look up a good dictionary.

            As a Tamil you studied in Tamil. As a Sinhalese I studied in Sinhala. The Muslims could chose either language.

            Poor English comprehension, leads to idiotic replies. Your comment is a good example!

            Kind Regards,
            OTC

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              “Prasad, the Vernacular does not translate in to “Sinhala Only”. Look up a good dictionary. “

              Vernacular is not native Languages in Lanka. There was no Vernacular Languages Only Act in Sri Lanka. It is Sinhala only act. If you don’t remember, Kodeeshwaran case also went to Privy Council those days. That is why Bandaranake wanted to change the constitution to remove the commonwealth status.

              “Poor English comprehension, leads to idiotic replies. Your comment is a good example!” Thanks god we did not study from your teacher to turn and twist the way you are doing. Yet there is an art also in twisting. But with your PhD English, when you are twisting, every child in this site catching you lies and writing a reply for you.

              You appears to have a big head that is why you are not able to go ahead and all of your writing are right away knocked out by someone whoever read.

              We challenge if you can write on what happened on Aluthgama, write on subject matter like that. If you could not, say so. Don’t try to deviate like this.

              Listen to this:
              Hakeem has said the “STF shot the Muslims peoples to death”. He is claiming he also went to the site and collected evidences.

              Read this too; Mangala is saying:

              “Calling for an independent investigation into the incident, he said the bodies of the youths who had died in the clashes should be exhumed.

              JMO reports into the persons who had been shot dead, have been tampered with to claim they had died due to knife attacks, which had been done by the justice minister himself, he charged.

              Referring to the fire at No Limit clothes shop in Panadura, he said footage of CCTV cameras of an adjacent property, which he showed to the media, indicated the arsonists who had stormed the premises were wearing black boots and were linked to law enforcement agencies.

              He challenged the IGP’s claim that an electricity leakage had caused the fire, and questioned as to how the vehicles parked in front of the shop beyond the area which can be affected by an electricity leakage, could catch fire.

              Police, which have become inactive due to interventions by the US citizen defence secretary and his followers, were not to be blamed for the incidents on June 15, he said.

              The MP went onto say that this communalistic group was being led by Kapila Hendrawitharana, secretary to Gotabhaya Rajapaksa, and its key coordinator is Suresh Salley, a Malay, and State Inteligence Service chief DIG Wagista is also involved.

              The IGP has become helpless in front of them, he said..

              Now do you understand why governments has not responded to these and keep silent? Because in their mind, they are with 14+ millions. They are not with you and the government radical french elements.

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                Dear Mallaiyuran,

                Please read my post addressed to Dr Laksiri of June 24, 2014 at 11:08 pm.

                It was about the IGP’s statement that Dr Laksiri was casting doubt on.

                I asked him, By what logic can the IGP be faulted for telling the TRUTH? The call for the IGP’s removal is justified for the Police dragging their feet on the above two police complaints and allowing the BBS thugs to have a meeting in Aluthgama but not for telling the TRUTH about the assault by the 3 Muslims on Ven Samitha of Dharga Town…… Why does everyone want to suppress the TRUTH?

                You have been aimlessly running around like a headless chicken without addressing the issue at hand, because you have absolutely no idea what that issue is!

                The reason for that is your poor command of the Language

                The adjective Vernacular means

                Language spoken as one’s mother tongue; not learned or imposed as a second language. (Oxford Dictionary)

                You studied in Tamil, I studied in Sinhala, both are the Vernacular of each of us.

                But you say “Vernacular is not native Languages in Lanka”

                Thus being the IDIOT you are, you are trying to redefine the English Language for the English, with your idiotic comprehension of English. Ha ha haa!!!

                Re “There was no Vernacular Languages Only Act in Sri Lanka. It is Sinhala only act.”

                There was no Sinhala Only Act. That is the name given by the Separatists Tamils like you, to the “Official Language Act No. 33 of 1956”.

                Re “If you don’t remember, Kodeeshwaran case also went to Privy Council those days. That is why Bandaranake wanted to change the constitution to remove the commonwealth status”

                I perhaps know more about the Kodeeswaran case than you do. That again is due to your poor English.

                Kodeeswaran LOST the PRIVY COUNCIL Appeal because the Privy Council held that the Citizenship Act did not Discriminate anyone.

                Extract

                IN THE PRIVY COUNCIL

                1953 Present : Lord Normand, Lord Oaksey, Lord Tucker, Lord Asquith of Bishopstone and Lord Cohen

                G. S. N. KODAKAN PILLAI, Appellant, and P. B. MUDANAYAKE et al., Respondents

                PRIVY COUNCIL APPEAL NO. 7 OF 1952
                S. C. 368-Application for Writ of Certiorari

                For all these reasons their Lordships have come to the conclusion that the Citizenship and Franchise Acts are intra vires of the Ceylon legislature and they therefore humbly advise Her Majesty that this appeal ought to be dismissed. The appellant must pay the costs of the appeal.

                Appeal dismissed

                http://www.lawnet.lk/docs/case_law/nlr/common/html/NLR54V433.htm

                end extract

                Learn your English if you want to seriously debate on an English Forum.

                Kind Regards,
                OTC

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                  OTC

                  “You have been aimlessly running around like a headless chicken without addressing the issue at hand, because you have absolutely no idea what that issue is!”

                  Come on man! Wimal dismisses the CJ and you dismisses the IGP? Is that how the man like you who understand the issue ended up? If Mahanama has met you or Wimal(just one of you) he never would have dared to write Mahavamsa the guiding bible for your kind of people. There is no need for that! You two are more than enough to run the Modaya Lanka! Why then the guiding bible Mahavamsa?

                  But you say “Vernacular is not native Languages in Lanka”

                  Thus being the IDIOT you are, you are trying to redefine the English Language for the English, with your idiotic comprehension of English. Ha ha haa!!!

                  Please for God shake understand some English. If I say “Vernacular is not ‘native Languages’ in Lanka” that does not mean I am redefining Oxford or Longman or Merriam Webster! Ha Ha Haa! I am only trying to define who the Mahavamsa Modayas are.For some Good grace, do something for your understanding ability before come here and keep plowing all over everywhere.

                  We are not separatist. We want our land. The name for that is freedom seekers. Racist like you only call us as separatist. Further we go by the meaning. We do not care the cover up attempted in the names if Sinhala only. Could show some evidence that this name was given by Separatist? Can you tell me exactly whom you are calling separatist? Can you tell when the concept for the Sinhala only Act was formulated? Do you know anything about JR and SWRD? do know the history of Lanka?

                  “There was no Sinhala Only Act. That is the name given by the Separatists Tamils like you, to the “Official Language Act No. 33 of 1956″.

                  First understand what is “official” means. Tamils did not accept any of the Lanka’s comedy constitution. The 1976 Vaddukkodai resolution is the final for us. No other comedies made DS or Banda or any other comedians has a binding on us!
                  Tamils

                  “For all these reasons their Lordships have come to the conclusion that the Citizenship and Franchise Acts are intra vires of the Ceylon legislature and they therefore humbly advise Her Majesty that this appeal ought to be dismissed. The appellant must pay the costs of the appeal”

                  Came on man! I mean Kodeeswaran case. Don’t be such an innocent(idiot)! This is a verdict given by the Privy council to support the Commonwealth countries immigration policies.

                  Before come back and plow all over again, please come to know the world.

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              “The Muslims could chose either language” “Could chose?” That’s what the better english which you studied under a better teacher?”

              Tips: choose/chose/chosen

              Man I could pick up errors in your writing day in and out, dont have false superioriy stupid, between I was born to Tamil, not to English man to worry for the mistakes that I make in English.

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                Dear manisekaran,

                Re “Man I could pick up errors in your writing day in and out, dont have false superioriy stupid, between I was born to Tamil, not to English man to worry for the mistakes that I make in English”

                There are many mistakes that you have made in the above para but I am not worried about your grammar or spelling because I can understand what you have written and can respond.

                The mistakes that cannot be excused are those of comprehension, which makes your responses idiotic.

                You have responded to my comment addressed to Prasad of June 25, 2014 at 11:18 pm. But you have not been able to contradict the points I have raised.

                What you and your band wagon cannot do and have been struggling to do, is to break my arguments, because they are based on facts.

                I have addressed a comment to that lying Tamil Separatist wearing a Veddha Mask, on June 26, 2014 at 3:27 pm on this web page, in answer to a challenge he made to my comment to Lal.

                I have argued with supporting references from the ICRC itself, that Mr. Marzuki Darusman, Ms Yasmin Sooka and Mr. Steven R. Ratner is guilty of Graft and has possibly been paid handsomely, for services rendered, through LTTE Funds.

                I have also exposed the masked Tamil Separatist’s perfidy.

                If you can, try your hand at rebutting it.

                Kind Regards,
                OTC

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                  OF the bluff,

                  I never boast of my english writing skills nor i think high of me by writing in shinglish. Yes I tend to make mistakes often because I write comments during the available free time. It is you who started commenting on english, not me. I too know the following sentences can be rephrased;
                  Man, I can pick up the errors in your writings or postings day in and day out, hence you dont have the false superiority, I am born to tamil and not to English man hence I dont need to worry for the mistakes which I make in my writings”

                  I believe I dont contest here for an essay competition.

                  Between, I raised an important question while responding to one of your post, that was a simple question that any fresher who started learning english could understand, the question was

                  “How many of the thugs who were responsible for 1983 black july was arrested and went trial under the existing law of your land?”
                  I know again you will run away like a coward and will not respond. If you dont respond, dont appear next time with lame excuses and deceits.

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                    Dear manisekaran,

                    Re “Yes I tend to make mistakes often because I write comments during the available free time”

                    I do not care about you spelling and grammar errors and I have not picked on anyone for those. But comprehension is a basic requirement in order to exchange views and debate issues in a public forum.

                    If you cannot comprehend written Tamil you cannot intelligently respond to another Tamil on a Tamil language forum. It is the same for an English Language forum. Hence when you make a comment by misinterpreting what I write due to poor comprehension, I have no alternative but to point it out.

                    In this case I addressed a comment to Dr Laksiri on June 24, 2014 at 11:08 pm. My comment dealt with two matters

                    1. Dr Laksiri casting doubt on the IGP’s statement
                    2. Why everyone want to suppress the TRUTH?

                    You agreed with that self confessed pervert Prasad on June 25, 2014 at 7:19 pm. You did not ask me any relevant question

                    You did not even ask me that irrelevant question that you now claim to have asked me, which is “How many of the thugs who were responsible for 1983 black july was arrested and went trial under the existing law of your land?”

                    If you understand what is written, base your counter arguments on that without going on fishing trips with irrelevancies.

                    Who is Bluffing manisekaran, you or me?

                    Kind Regards,
                    OTC

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                      “You did not even ask me that irrelevant question that you now claim to have asked me, which is “How many of the thugs who were responsible for 1983 black july was arrested and went trial under the existing law of your land?”

                      I think you have serious problem in understanding what is written.

                      “Between, I raised an important question while responding to one of your post, that was a simple question that any fresher who started learning english could understand, the question was”

                      This is the post, where you ran without answering;

                      https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/the-future-of-the-tamils/

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          My problem may be with English. You have serious problems in understanding the Royal Government’s politics. While you may not be able to help me, be guaranteed that I will be help you to understand the Royal Government, by writing its racial, murderous, brutal activities until you get it. I will be writing of the Royal Government until an international inquiry come and the Royal family is put on the electric chair, not just as election campaign, but as a real punishment for the crimes committed. That day you will understand whose problem is more severe.

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      Dear OTC,

      On what you have quoted, I was basing myself on Malinda Seneviratne’s article on “IGP Must Resign!” which I consider balanced and reliable. https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/the-igp-must-resign/

      However, I was not aware of what you say as “a decapitated Head and 4 hoovers of an Ox left in front of his temple.” That should be condemned, assuming it is correct. At the same time, it should be noted that a Muslim shop/complex was torched in Aluthgama a month ago. According to the same source, this was done by monks on baseless allegations.

      I endorsed Seneviratne’s call for IGP’s resignation in my following posting on 22. I still stand by that call without prejudice to him personally. In my view, these are the small steps that the civil society could/should take to restore law and order, accountability and justice. Otherwise, Sri Lanka will fall into anarchy before something terrible would happen.

      “Yes, it’s the right call to ask the IGP to resign. His failure to ban the BBS rally, his instructions to the STF to protect the procession only, his false statement about a monk being assaulted are good enough to call for his resignation. Malinda has very logically explained the IGPs direct culpability. It may be in order to ask the President to remove him, if he doesn’t resign. But before that, there should be more voices asking the IGP’s resignation.”

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        “Yes, it’s the right call to ask the IGP to resign. His failure to ban the BBS rally, his instructions to the STF to protect the procession only, his false statement about a monk being assaulted are good enough to call for his resignation. Malinda has very logically explained the IGPs direct culpability. It may be in order to ask the President to remove him, if he doesn’t resign. But before that, there should be more voices asking the IGP’s resignation.” – Dr.Laksiri

        . “In my view, these are the small steps that the civil society could/should take to restore law and order, accountability and justice.
        That is not the way to decide if an officer needs to resign or not. First thing where is Ranil’s independent commissions? Can somebody bring them in so that commission can decide whether the IGP is in fault or not? The Management principles say that authority and the responsibility should match. One don’t fry an officer for fault for that he did not have authority. If IGP has made these decisions he has to resign. Media has clearly said Both brothers planned it staged it and went out of the country. Further they were giving orders from the the foreign countries. Is there a place the IGP can lodge his complains and seek justice? Is there somebody willing to hear his story before guide the mass to demand for his resignation? Who knows what he wants to say?

        Otherwise, Sri Lanka will fall into anarchy before something terrible would happen”. Terrible things have happened many times. Many are still happening. So far nobody has resigned. Out of the blue, Suddenly demanding the IGP to resign is out of sequence talk. The government has made the civil employees handicap before it started its bulling on everybody. It is time to act for learned peoples. Instead they demand the government employees to fix the political bosses; they have to educated the mass and convince then to use the vote in intelligent way. If one minor employee is misbehaving one can complain to his immediate boss. This a country has gone wrong. How the one or two employees’ resignation going to fix it?

        If the King’s family employ mules to carry out their donkey work, then the mules are not responsible for that. There is proverb in Tamil” When hunter is there why frown at the arrow?”(Eaithavan irrukka Ampai Novaanneen?)

        These are matters normally handled at ASP, OIC level. But, here, the government pre-planned it. (Government planned not just for the road rage, for three years it has been planning to stage this. Three years ago Mano Ganesan publicly warned the Muslim ministers. Where were all the people until all these time?). According to the plan, the matters went up to IGP. He verified from his political bosses how to act on that. He carried out the instructions given to him.

        At the Grandpass incident, Bathiyutheen challenged him for not acting and threatened him with lawsuit. What was the end? IGP stayed away from acting, as per the order given to him, so he did not care of Bathiyutheen. Bathiyutheen demanded BBS apologize to him for insults they said. Did it do that? BBS went into ministry of commerce and industry, BBS went into the meeting that Muslims and JBS were having, BBS went to Wilapathu and dislocated the settlers, BBS Circumcised the JBS Monk…police has not arrested one single person for all these. There are many OICs,ASPs , SPs, and DIG has to go home because they were standing on the places when many of these incidents were taking place. Government knows what is it doing and it had not done anything for not arresting. There are many incidents unrelated to this also have happened too. For example everybody knows who killed Khuram, the British tourist. Everybody knows who killed Prema Chandra. Everybody knows who killed Lasantha. Where are the criminals? Who resigned so far?

        From many quarters there were voices that Hakeem should resign. He, in reply, asked reporters why he has to resign. Hassan Ali said whatever can happen they will not withdraw the support to government. A.L.M. Athavulla said it is painful to stay in the government, but he wouldn’t resign. Brother Prince has been meddling in these matters for long time. Not just these, even in the election. Many asked him to resign. He wouldn’t. Why the IGP has to resign. How his resignation is going to fix the Justice ministry, defense ministry, and the Law and order ministry? Isn’t there a new Army person has been appointed as the Law and order ministry’s secretary. How did he handle these matters? Where is he? What about if he resign?

        “But before that, there should be more voices asking the IGP’s resignation.”
        This how the learned peoples misguided the mass and the country have come to this stage. There is no point in teaching the mass to demand the IGP to resign. His political bossed has the full authority to dismiss him. They even impeached a CJ for not listening to them and bent the constitution in the way they wanted. So, mass should ask the government to impeach (dismiss) him or the political bosses are the peoples have to resign. That is the proper way of guiding the mass.

        If the proper path to seek his removal is not followed nobody can ask for exception of prejudice.

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        Dear Dr. Laksiri Fernando,

        It is the responsibility of a writer to verify facts before he puts pen to paper (in this case fingers to the keyboard).

        I too endorse the call for the IGP’s resignation for the initial inaction and the inability to uphold the rule of law but not for telling the truth even belatedly.

        But you stated “Then the IGP came and stated that a monk has been assaulted” which implies that the IGP was Lying.

        I refrained from commenting on this issue till June 21, as I was not sure of what happened. A search of the Internet brought up only one sided reports. The International media was going to town stereotyping 14+ million Buddhists instead of the radical fringe. Interested parties were fanning the flames. The local mainstream media was not reporting it either.

        Before writing my first comment as a reply to Izeth Hussain’s inflammatory letter to CT, (https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/sri-lankan-muslims-at-the-cross-roads-iv-after-aluthgamaberuwela/), I visited the local Temple. It was there that I learned about the earlier Road Rage incident on Poson day (12 June).

        when I discovered an interview with Rev Samitha on UTube (subsequent to my post), the initial information I had, proved somewhat inaccurate, though a Road Rage did occur in which 3 Muslims attacked a Buddhist Monk and his driver on Poson day.

        Here it is for your information.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrBgKWapYFA&feature=youtu.be

        It was from this interview that I learnt about the OX Head and 4 Hooves that was left in front of Rev Samitha’s Temple around May/June about 2 weeks prior to the assault on the Monk on the 12th. Now a search on the Internet brings up more such information despite the govts news blackout.

        Champika, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8IcOu8V4K4

        A Muslim viewpoint, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDk9THRAiBo

        Palitha Thewarapperuma in Parliament, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtXKvnXK42A

        Azath Salley, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TukKM3qz_nw

        Dharga Town, 9 May 2014, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvUv5Fps4cc

        BBC, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFTLAYNL5v8

        Attack on a Muslim Shop on 9 May 2014
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVfyhOO8EtA

        IGP’s statement on Sirasa TV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWipdoWsxLU

        It is clear that this had been brewing since May or earlier. It is also clear that the authorities were dragging their feet instead of taking preemptive action to mitigate the situation. It is also clear that hate speech whether by the BBS or anybody else must be taken to task if not possible under normal law then under the PTA.

        Kind Regards,
        OTC

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          “The International media was going to town stereotyping 14+ million Buddhists instead of the radical fringe. Interested parties were fanning the flames. The local mainstream media was not reporting it either. “

          OTC, you certainly have problems in understanding matters, if you are not struggling to twist the actual situation. Further, thinking that you can confuse the readers, you are adding your witness to that. Do you expect somebody to believe that? Why don’t you come out of your fake ID “OTC”, come with your real name, providing the history of your reporting profile? Can you understand the international media’s side of the story that Aluthagama is a drama staged by anarchy government with forcefully recruited false witnesses? Can you explain where the 14+ millions Buddhist story is coming out of small a town Aluthgama? Well, it is not the 14+ million Buddhist are doing, and it is nowhere said so either in the international Media (if you can understand news, instead of trying to force feeding your stories), it is true the radical fringe, interested parties in the government are the one fanning these flames. It is not the Muslims planned it for three weeks for Road rage, it is the governments planned for communal troubles for last 7 decades.(You have no idea of what is a road rage is, if you did know, you would not bring that into your the three weeks planning story- that is real absurdity)

          Can you tell why there is always a press censure in Sri Lanka? It is because then only people will have no other way but to depend on your witness? Isn’t the international countries have left the media free just because to keep the fanning out of the mainstream news? Whom you are trying to make as blind by saying though entire world is going against you Royal Government, but still they all are wrong, but your witness is the only one well tested and scientifically verified?

          Tamil who came out of Lanka have proved to international governments with the marks on their bodies as evidence to Lanka’s police brutality. Lanka government, after brutalizing, do things equivalent to cut their tongues off to make them silent. But the Modaya-ness here is that the Lankan government does not understand that the international brutality investigation experts have scientific methods to bring out the real stories even after that witness suppressing methods. If Vijitha Thero is ever get out of the grip of the Royal Government, the truth of his witness against himself will come out too. JMOs, who were pressed to record the false statement of about his hospitalization, if they ever get the freedom, will also tell the truth out to the world. (These not suppressed forever, they may be need some more time to come out and tell the truth – everybody knows the time is nearing) We saw this when the army informant Gobi was murdered in the northern jungles by the army with the story of eliminating resurfacing tigers. The doctors and others witnessed freely in Channel 4’s killing field have been forced to retract their words. UN agrees if it is going to have an inquiry in Lanka there is a need for witness protection.

          The story of Muslims have been planning for 3 weeks to attack Sinhalese in Aluthgama is a new creation. But as the spin doctors writing it here, that may become as the end conclusion of the new fake commission reports too. But the attack on Muslims were planned even before Muslims were used as informants in Jaffna. It was planned to use Muslims to wipe out Tamils first and in turn they were selected to be the next even before 2009. It was kept as a secret to get Muslims fullest corporation. Three years ago, when Mano Ganesan said that his sources had made him clear that there is large scale anti-Muslims activities are being planned, nobody denied that. What we saw in Aluthgama is only a small part of it.

          Everybody knows the police are the one put the cow head in the night and in the morning return to the site to investigate it too. Is it really true, the police, who went through Vanni jungle and came out with hiding place of Gobi, is not being able to find out that who put the cow head there? It is the same police is telling, after photos are published the hand tied Thero being thrown and lying near the Panadura bridge in a fainted condition, the story of he hurt himself.

          IGP has been told by his bosses to give instruction to protect only BBS’s parade. There are peoples who have requested him to stop the BBS meeting. He was ordered to let the meeting take palace. Aluthgama incident is a fight between the Sinhalese (it was made to appear by the government as Sinhalese- but it was only between the government) and Muslims. As Tamil, a community not in that conflict, there was no reason for him not to listen to the complain of MPs like Asath Sally and put a stop to the BBS meeting. There is every evidences that it is the government wanted in that way. As he has done his job satisfactorily to his bosses, he is not going to be fired by his bosses. He is not under public control. The public call for his resignation is a misunderstanding of the procedures from the people who are calling for his resignation.

          This IGP should not have come to that post. He came there because of the manipulations in the police service from 1948. Further, he cannot be fired with a false explanation because every Tom, Dick and Harry has a baby story to fire him. Your reason to demand resignation from IGP is not fitting to the mistake he committed, if he has committed any mistake at all. There no real evident that he delayed anything, and if if has not acted in time, its punishment is, nowhere said as his resignation. He said many lies in that incident. One them could be the attack by Muslims youth on a Monk. There too JMO’s certification are not reliable on hospitalization of the attacked on the monk. Further is not a witness for any incident. He is giving the summary of what what has been recorded by police officers investigated the incident. As he is a puppet, he is not responsible of the conduct of the officers under him. First thing, he did not act with free hand. It is the more than three years planning against Muslims community brought a Tamil as IGP. This is a pre-planned setup to destroy Tamils-Muslims relationships. After bring a puppet like him, he has been let open for everybody’s demand to resignation when they do not have any understanding at all of what is the procedure of the Police depart to remove an IGP. It is very clear Malinda and other spin-doctors have been set up to call for the resignation of the IGP as the climax of the Aluthgama drama.

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            Dear Mallaiyuran,

            Long winded reply from you but unfortunately your command of English is insufficient to understand what I have written in order to make a logical rebutal.

            What has my real name got to do with what I have written? The shift of focus from what I have written, to my name, shows your inability to rebut my comment.

            “Mallaiyuran” may be a pseudonym as much as “M.A. Kailasapillai” is, though both are real names.

            Please prove that you are really who you claim yourself to be.

            You are too much of an idiot to understand, that almost all of us here, despite the names used, are anonymous.

            After you prove your identity get some help from someone before you attempt to reply again.

            Kind Regards,
            OTC

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              If you do not understand that posting don’t worry Mr. M.A Kailasapillai. As I promised, I will be here, so some time in the future you will catch up with what I am trying to tell you. Further don’t attempt or even think about replying to that, now. You are not even near to that.

              M.A Kailasapillai I am not sure why did you write this in your previous comment? “As a Tamil you studied in Tamil. As a Sinhalese I studied in Sinhala. The Muslims could chose( Mr.Kailapillai please check your English spelling here. Please pass this link help to your great English teacher- http://www.gingersoftware.com/english-online/spelling-book/confusing-words/choose-chose please don’t forget to say thank you for me too ) either language.. Are you trying to tell me that you are Muslim, so even though you speak Tamil, you selected Sinhala to study?

              For your question of: “what has my real name got to do with what I have written? ……… I visited the local Temple. It was there that I learned about the earlier Road Rage incident on Poson day (12 June). -M.A. Kailasapillai

              “Further, thinking that you can confuse the readers, you are adding your witness to that. Do you expect somebody to believe that? Why don’t you come out of your fake ID “OTC”, come with your real name, providing the history of your reporting profile?” – Me.

              I understand that it is really hard you to understand what you are writing too. You the said here that you went to the site and collected evidence and expected others to believe it. So if you know something, people believe one or not depending on their past conducts and the personal experiences had with that one. I know, these all are too much for you to grasp. But, if you want us to believe you, we need to know who are. We need to know your past conducts. That has a lot to do with your real name M.A. Kailasapillai.
              “You are too much of an idiot to understand, that almost all of us here, despite the names used, are anonymous.”. Twisting M.A, Kailasapillai! You are an anonymous. You witness is a not a news report. Please don’t waste others time with that kind of rubbishes. Thanks for accepting and understanding.

              As a matter of fact I have very clearly said in my previous comment. Further,because you don’t know my real name if you could not believe what I write here, my answer is, don’t worry about that too, I will continue to write enough to convince you to start believing me. So, don’t worry about my real name, now. You will learn to get along with it soon.

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                Dear Mallaiyuran,

                I wrote the following in my previous post to you.

                “Mallaiyuran” may be a pseudonym as much as “M.A. Kailasapillai” is, though both are real names.

                Apparently you did not understand what I wrote. Hence once again you wrote another idiotic comment (reproduced below),

                “Are you trying to tell me that you are Muslim, so even though you speak Tamil, you selected Sinhala to study?”

                Ha ha haa Mallaiyuran, Learn your English. This is an English Language forum. You are making IDIOTIC inferences because of your poor language skills.

                Here is another HOWLER from you.

                I wrote I visited the local Temple. It was there that I learned about the earlier Road Rage incident on Poson day

                You ask in your own English, “You the said here that you went to the site and collected evidence and expected others to believe it”

                Local Temple means the Temple near my house (which is far away from Dharga Town). Look up the word LOCAL in the dictionary please!!!!

                The English you know is insufficient to debate on an English Language forum. Get some urgent help.

                BTW When you can’t prove even the name you use is your own, you wanted to know my real name Since you cannot prove your own identity are we to assume you are DISHONESTLY using Mallaiyuran as a PSEUDONYM?

                Ha ha haa. That was an intelligent challenge.

                I chose Off the Cuff because I wanted the readers to know its a pseudonym. I could have been dishonest like you and chosen a real name instead.

                M.N.I.N. Perera is also a pseudonym just like M.A. Kailasapillai is.

                Here is the full name of M.N.I.N.Perera
                My Name Is Not Perera …Ha ha haa!!!

                Please get some English Tuition!

                Kind Regards,
                OTC

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                  “Ha ha haa. That was an intelligent challenge. I chose Off the Cuff because I wanted the readers to know its a pseudonym. I could have been dishonest like you and chosen a real name instead.”

                  That is a real comedy man!

                  Ha ha..First, FYI, please be aware, if somebody ever tells you his name is “ending as “yuran, ooran et al” that is his pseudo name. Ha haa haaaaaaaaa . That is a culture in Tamil exist from Changam period. (Those days when he Pundits and poets become famous, to maintain their humbleness, they stop telling their names, Then the peoples give them the pseudonym ending with “Yuran, Ooran”. These days we who proclaim ourselves as writers, we too go for that. But it is understood and tolerated within the modern Tamil community. I am not laughing at you for not knowing it. Even if you had studied Tamil for some purposes, it is an unlikely knowledge to come to know. I am only laughing at your big headed-ness. Ha ha ha)

                  You are such an Idiot to put up the foolish drama, after understanding all what I wrote and when you could not answer to that, in that you said that you did not understand my English that is why you are not replying for that. But I challenged, by continuously writing, I will make you to take back your “cheating” on that. I did that and I have proved that you do understand the English that I write, by making to you come back and answer to my writing. Hang in here around as we have to go through together many things. Do run away next time saying that you do not understand my English. Of cause, we all know with your limited capacity, you cannot understand the contents discussed in these. I am not going to pull you on that.

                  “Are you trying to tell me that you are Muslim, so even though you speak Tamil, you selected Sinhala to study?” Ha ha haa Mallaiyuran, Learn your English. This is an English Language forum. You are making IDIOTIC inferences because of your poor language skills.” –

                  You are poor sole dear OTC

                  I am not going to write one easy to show your foolishness on every point that you are coming out with. So let us take this one in details.

                  First, unlike as you claimed, not almost all are anonymous here. There is a substantial part of the commentators coming with their real name. Do not try to take false defense like that to ask me believe your story without knowing you. I am anonymous and you are anonymous, let us stop that there. Further some commentators, even if they could be using an anonymous pseudo names, they have proved by staying on their point constantly, they have established that they are trustworthy. For Example, very few might want to question Ameraisiri, who he is just for something he wrote. It is irreverent what he writes, but he has created trustworthiness on him by his consistent style of writing. But we do not know who he is. That is the fact that I do not know who Amerasiri is not relevant to trust what he writes. It is you who tried to boost the reliability of your story by insisting that you went to the temple and got your side of your story.

                  Whether it is form a local site or from the incident site, your story is coming from hear say. If you were not at the incident what is the kind of the value you are adding to you side of the story? I ended up assuming your local temple as in or around the incident side as because you wanted give prominence to you story (that is nothing to do with the English; that has something to do with your twisting way of writing the story). It is not simply that we do not know who you are; in addition to that, we do not know the other person that you are bringing in here as the one said your story. We all know IGP’s version came as a denial to the popular version that was circulating for long time. That is where the suspicion on IGP started. You release your version, even long after IGP said his version. Where were you all these time to deny the popular version, until IGP stated to deny? When did you get your version, before or after IGP relesed his version? Say you got yours after IGP released his one, what is importance of you saying that you got yours at the temple? The worst thing in that is, the IGP story is published in all news media, but you are saying that you got yours from your local site. How do you know the peoples at the temple have better information? How these are substantiating one another? Is there a way to verify the independent nature of the two sources? So now I have to ask you question “If you deny that you are not a witness, who was the original witness for the story that you are saying that you got from the temple?” You need to understand the importance of it to trust the news. You expecting the readers to just to accpet your version. Isn’t it that is why you are saying your version is from your local temple? Aren’t you saying here you believe your local temple stories? That means that you know your local temple that is why you believe your local temple stories. Then what is the wrong if I asked you who you, before I believe the story you are posting. Don’t you understand the news you are posting in not from my local temple, for me to blindly believe it? So, if I ask you who you are and as an answer for that if you answer that I do not know who is Amerasiri is too (or any of the commentator in CT), it certainly indicate that you have something to hide. How are we connecting the other anonymous commentators for the reliability of the news you are posting?

                  None of the writers are anonymous. It is always assumed that there is a newsworthiness existing in all of the writers’ essays even for the sections they miss to annex references. The reason for that is, other than ignorant peoples like you, the average person treat a known person as not purposefully telling a lie. In other words, if a reputed person write on a public media, until that is proved that is not correct, it is treated as correct. Commentators comment here on that assumption. For example, when NPC Jehan Perera comes here and write that he visited north, interviewed common crowd, their opinion is such and such, then everybody accept that.

                  But you attempted to infuse something as you have met some special peoples and obtained from them, and that is more correct than the news reported on the public media. This is how you tried to bend others opinion to your side of the story that is Muslim youths beat a monk. The first article on CT raised a suspicion on the claim of Muslims youths attacked is, the NPC’s statement posted on the CT. As an institution trying to gain acceptance from both, the government and anti-government sides, to fulfill its object of peace making, it is giving only an indication that the IGP’s story of Muslims youths attacked a monk is not verifiable. Now, it is in many places said that the IGP’s version of the story is completely framed up. Then you wrote that you went to local temple and obtained first had information. I want to see what kind of prove you can offer for that? To compare your story with NPC statement and determine who is telling the truth I need you ID to compare with NPC and see who is more dependable. If you are insisting that you are only anonymous, the trustworthiness of your story is 0%. As we know what is NPC is, so there is a certain percentage of newsworthiness is in that story. Further your story agreeing with IGP also dragging down the trustworthiness of it. Look at these government side Stories:

                  1.We Tamils do know from the peoples visited and obtained the first hand information that the army shot and killed a police informant Gobi, the army officer Karua who supervised the informant and the other two murdered in the same incident. Further we all know exactly what happened at Jeyakumari’s house. We all know why Jeyakumari is in prison. It is not just we, even the foreign diplomats also have the truth of incidents took place in Nedunnkerni.

                  2. Hakeem says he has the prove of STF shooting the Muslim men on the on Sunday night. JMO’s reports have been altered to show that they died in the altercations.

                  3.It was reported Vijitha Threro on the hospital bed told to his lawyer that he was attacked. It was a person who traveled on the road show the Thero in unconsciousness. Further there is video interview published in the YouTube that was taken few hours before Thero was arrested. In that he has said he is committed to continue his cause and he will make the truth to come out. (Meaning that he was attacked, yet he will work for the peaceful existence of Muslims and Sinhalese.) Now the police version it is Thero himself did it. Everybody knows the JMO’s reports altered here too.

                  4. Nolimit was set fire from outside. The police version is internal electrical malfunction. The owners have CCTV footage too.

                  There is no limit on the lies coming out of the Royal Government. This is why it is trying to hide from international inquiry too. Anything it said so far about Nandikaddal is 100% concocted stories. So the government does not like to see the OHCHR.

                  Within these so many lies, you are bringing your story of you went to the Local temple and collect the truth. When somebody tries to hold you for that, you are trying to backtrack as “oh no I did not say like that, Oh no I did not say like this”.

                  I have clearly explained in my earlier post why I have to question your story until you release your original profile. To answer that, you wanted to indicate in your actions and wanted to say in words too that you are only an anonymous. That is where you poked on your trustworthiness as to the lowest level. Instead of staying where you are and arguing your point, you proved how smart you are in twisting by coming back in Tamil name. There is no denial that you used a Tamil name to tease me. But I am not that sensitive and I took it as your art of twisting. I can easily discount your foolishness on that. But it is laughable is when I indicated that I have got your meaning of your dance, in my way of writing, you did not get it.

                  You tried to say that in Sri Lanka there is no “Sinhala only”. Irrelevant of what law exist in Sri Lanka, the actual status of Lanka is Sinhala only. Leaving that aside, the “shobhasa” is that the child can study in parents’s languages. It is not Muslims can study in Tamil or Sinhala. It is based on parents’ language, not on parents’ religion. So when you somersaulted and came in Tamil Name (Kailasapillai- one who lives in Kailash) to prove your point that an anonymous can somersault in all his actions, including naming his writing, then I applied that for your other quote too.
                  Now, your name is a Tamil name. One’s name is given to them by parents. (Exceptions does not count here) You studied in Sinhala. According to your interpretation of Shobhasa, only a Muslim, even if his mother tongue is Tamil he can study in Sinhala. If there any consistencies can be assumed, you are a Muslim as per your interpretation. Otherwise there are no consistencies in your writing; you are keep somersaulting worse than a confused fox.

                  I know it is too hard to grasp what you are writing. That is because you yet have to learn the difference between “Chose” and Choose”. In addition to that just to prove your PhD English doing so many somersaults in you names too. That is not important as we understand who you are.

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                    Dear Mallaiyuran,

                    You asked me -: Why don’t you come out of your fake ID “OTC”, come with your real name, …June 25, 2014 at 8:00 pm

                    The above implies that “Mallaiyuran” is the REAL Name of Mallaiyuran.

                    No intelligent person who is capable of meeting the points raised in a comment would shift focus and start questioning the writers credentials.

                    No Intelligent person, who himself is DISHONESTLY hiding behind a Real Name will challenge another (who is honest about his anonymity), when he cannot prove his own identity.

                    Hence Mallaiyuran, I challenged you to prove your identity.

                    Please prove that you are really who you claim yourself to be.
                    June 25, 2014 at 10:37 pm.

                    After realizing that proving your identity as Mallaiyuran was an almost impossible task, you are now changing your tune.

                    That was absolute IDIOCY.

                    You are now claiming (with a long winded irrelevant explanation) that Mallaiyuran itself is a PSEUDONYM (which only Tamils will recognize as such)!!!

                    Mallaiyuran says -: Ha ha..First, FYI, please be aware, if somebody ever tells you his name is “ending as “yuran, ooran et al” that is his pseudo name. June 27, 2014 at 5:17 am

                    What else to expect from an idiot that has had to eat his own words, Ha ha haa!!!

                    You say “First, unlike as you claimed, not almost all are anonymous here. There is a substantial part of the commentators coming with their real name.

                    Your IDIOCY is limitless!

                    They have REAL Looking names as I proved to you by using M.A. Kailasapillai and M.N.I.N. Perera but then you have no intelligence to understand a basic characteristic of a forum that does not require a commentator to submit verifiable identity information.

                    Re “Do not try to take false defense like that to ask me believe your story without knowing you”

                    Then you should go and discuss with your friends and relatives instead of on a public web site that’s populated by strangers. However I have not asked anyone to believe anything least of all you. I have presented facts and you can verify them yourself.

                    Re “I am anonymous and you are anonymous, let us stop that there”

                    Took a very long time for you to realize what an Idiot you were to ask me for my real name.

                    Re “Whether it is form a local site or from the incident site, your story is coming from hear say. If you were not at the incident what is the kind of the value you are adding to you side of the story?”

                    Mallaiyuran why are you insisting on displaying your ignorance and irrationality?

                    The person in this video is the person who was attacked by the 3 Muslims. It is first hand evidence from the victim himself. If you don’t understand the spoken Sinhala get help from someone who can translate for you.

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrBgKWapYFA&feature=youtu.be

                    Re “I ended up assuming your local temple as in or around the incident side as because you wanted give prominence to you story (that is nothing to do with the English; that has something to do with your twisting way of writing the story)”

                    When you cant dance, the floor is at fault. Ha ha haa!!!

                    Re “we do not know the other person that you are bringing in here as the one said your story”

                    Neither do I. Whats your point?

                    Re “We all know IGP’s version came as a denial to the popular version that was circulating for long time”

                    You forget that the IGP has access to Police records. He was privy to the Police complaint made by the victim monk on the 12th (Poson Full Moon day). Which happens to be several days before the Riots.

                    Only an imbecile will think Popularity is a measure of the Truth. It is not.

                    The rest of your Long winded post is similar to what I have analyzed so far. It is bereft of facts but replete with fiction.

                    Re “I know it is too hard to grasp what you are writing. That is because you yet have to learn the difference between “Chose” and Choose””

                    Mallaiyuran you can make any number of spelling or grammatical mistakes and I would not care (Your current post is full of them. I doubt you would have even noticed them). But when you misinterpret my comments due to weak comprehension and then go on long winded fishing trips posting irrelevancies, then I will point out your inability to understand English.

                    Kind Regards,
                    OTC

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                      “Why don’t you come out of your fake ID “OTC”, come with your real name, …June 25, 2014 at 8:00 pm The above implies that “Mallaiyuran” is the REAL Name of Mallaiyuran. “

                      Your limited capability is forcing you to imply unusual, wrong things. I am not responsible for that. Further that you are trying to create here another “local temple fake story” as it is implying whatever you like to fools others with. Your nature is continuously lying. Other than it is explicitly telling “OTC even if you come out with your Original ID nobody will believe you, because there was no monks were attacked”. You limited intelligence so did not allow you figure it out. Poor soul is you.

                      If you tell that you heard it at local temples, you thought, forum readers are also Mahavamsa Modayas so they are going to believe it. Forget it. It is not just the forum does not believe. The 212 country UN does not believe your story and they want to come into Lanka and see what kind of lies you people are telling to everybody. Don’t go and ask foolishly the way you are trying copy and ask me my ID, those famous people like Martti Ahtisaari, Silvia Cartwright and Asama Jehangir. Everybody believes those famous people. Only Sri Lankan has to have a passport and legitimate Visa when they go out. Because, nobody believes you, the Lankans. I have to warn you on that because you copycat me ask everybody ID. Those famous people may hurt you if you annoy them too, foolishly.

                      I asked you the request first. Your apparent lie of “Local Temple”, right away forced you defend yourself. It was an undeniable fake defense, after shamelessly lying. There was never, ever a monk was attacked in Aluthgama. Not even something near to that happened there. Period. That dirty monk has left record on three hospitals to have falsely trying to have admitted. I thing I understand what you are trying to say here. You are trying to tell here is that it is your group is the one wrote that false note to give the police to read it for the public. Can you deny that your group is not the one wrote that note that IGP read for pubic? I don’t need to know your ID to comprehend how much of your story is fake part. It is a 100% a lie

                      No Intelligent person, who himself is DISHONESTLY hiding behind a Real Name will challenge another (who is honest about his anonymity), when he cannot prove his own identity.
                      There are two types of stories. One is actual witness. Other one is mathematical and or logical analysis. You need person ID to believe the first type of story. So you might need an ID of the person to believe only to the 1st type of the story. By the way, where did you study anyway? If that person is resisting to give the ID then, you can safely assume it another thing that peoples normally hear at your local temples.

                      They have REAL Looking names as I proved to you by using M.A. Kailasapillai and M.N.I.N. Perera but then you have no intelligence to understand a basic characteristic of a forum that does not require a commentator to submit verifiable identity information.
                      You are a pathetic soul. You have no idea how much I am I involved in forums; you are explaining me the nature of the forums. How old are you? I noticed that you, not knowing what you are doing, have forced all other to go on bold letters. Don’t do write on a public forum until you learn to use it. Shame on you. I stopped it. Without cheating, like earlier, this time say a Thank for me.

                      “Hence Mallaiyuran, I challenged you to prove your identity.” You are not challenging me. You have no own intelligence, you are just tailing behind me. If I have not ask you for your ID, you even would know to compose a question like that in English. You are inferior even to a parrot.

                      Re “I know it is too hard to grasp what you are writing. That is because you yet have to learn the difference between “Chose” and Choose”” Mallaiyuran you can make any number of spelling or grammatical mistakes and I would not care (Your current post is full of them. I doubt you would have even noticed them). But when you misinterpret my comments due to weak comprehension and then go on long winded fishing trips posting irrelevancies, then I will point out your inability to understand English.”

                      Well you do not have anything to argue logically. You do not have anything to say other than “Idiot, fool etc, ” because it look like people those who are talking with you are in a situation to repeat only those words many times. I can feel their frustration. Sorry for you condition. For god shake learn something soon. Poor soul! But don’t rush to teach others English or about forums. Please remember when the OHCHR experts put you in the witness stand and start to grill you about the genocide crimes, do not ask them for their ID. If you do that they may hurt you. Then don’t come back and tell me it is I who trained you to get into that trouble.

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    So the LTTE that was/is banned by the international community and the GOSL are in the same bracket, right? So, MR lal, save your breath; the fact remains that, most definitely the UN investigations will reveal, there were reckless and unnecessary killings, rapes, and mutilations that could have been avoided. On the point about LTTE did not surrender; how can you bring this as a credible argument, when those who surrendered were mercilessly summarily executed! It is also very important that the UN investigation maticulously document as to how the LTTE faired in all this; the Tamils must know as to what they did. Accountability is the essence of democracy, and asking for accountabity is not an unpatriotic act!

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    The darling Opposition of the Dr has been in the proverbial creek since Nanthikadal.

    Hoping that Ms Pillai and her Western alliance will lift them out and put the Christian Faction leader on the throne to look after the great majority who happen to be Sinhal Buddhists.

    Dr Dayan on the other hand thrown in a paddle, to at least keep them alive in the time being .

    Still it will be all pushing up hill….

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    The Dr’s blabbering about the Military is well countered by the forthright interview of the Army Chief in the Daily Mirror.

    No politicians in either side has delivered anything like that ever.

    The great inhabitant majority who now live in peace and harmony can take solace from it.

    As a matter of interest, Ehelepola had a middle name “Wickremasinghe” , according to my favourite web paper LeNews..How cool is that….

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    Dear Dr. Laksiri Fernando,

    An excellent analysis.Thank you indeed.

    What ever Dayan J writes MUST be viewed and critiqued in the context of his seeking some ambassadorial appointment.DJ please understand no matter with what verbosity and fact you may argue a particular line, once your Credibility is gone , it very difficult to regain it.

    Each word , sentence and article DJ writes will be viewed with a jaundiced eye and Dayan’s unprincipled stand is solely responsible for this.Surely, his father , the late and great Mervyn de Silva must be sad at having had a son like this.Sincerely hope that our internet cannot be accessed wherever the great man is ,for he would vomit every time he reads his son’s by line.

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    Dayan is committed to the project of legitimizing the building of a Sinhala Buddhist State where Sinhala Buddhists dominate all minority communities. His latest position is that this Sinhala Buddhist Dominance is to be preferred to fascism and hence all of us must join forces with the governments to fight fascism.

    Towards this end he accepts that the movement to build a Sinhala Buddhist State has come to be dominated by fascists and then claims that the government itself is under threat from these very Sinhala Buddhist Fascists who according to him have established Sinhala Buddhist Terrorist cells which have infiltrated the state and government and dictate to the government what it can and cannot do.

    Having made these claims he recommends that all of us SUPPORT THE GOVERNMENT IN CARRYING OUT THE AGENDA OF THESE SINHALA BUDDHIST TERRORIST CELLS THAT DICTATE WHAT IT SHOULD DO. He is thereby in effect acting as the PRIME MINISTER of what he himself calls the DEEP STATE formed by these alleged Sinhala Buddhist Terrorist cells. He has created them, set up their agenda, articulated their objectives, and keeps formulating a strategy by which the government is to ensure the success of the project of building a Sinhala Buddhist State. He seems to think that the government as well as all of us are in some way OBLIGED to follow his recommendations and that if we fail to do so some calamity will befall us all.

    By doing so he neatly absolves the government of its responsibility to ensure that law and order prevails and that ALL citizens of the country are able to live without having to fear violence from anyone including from the agents of the state.

    He is a funny and silly person who thinks he is a great man. This problem should have been spotted long ago when he was at school and he should have been treated for this problem. These kinds of people actually believe that their funny silly foolishness and the babble it gives rise to are the hallmark of “greatness” and they actually believe that they are great people whose words we should all humbly heed and follow. Most of them wait in vain for the Nobel Prize, knighthoods, national decorations and so on. Many feel their greatness is not recognized and appreciated and as they grow older they often begin to complain about this.

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